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Winter Warmup · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Music and welcome back to the Boundary
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  Corner Podcast along with my partner Brian Siegler.
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  I am Curtis Wilson and this episode is brought to you by
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  Doctor Jeremy Counts down at the Main Street Pharmacy in
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  Blacksburg. Your friendly neighborhood
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  pharmacy, 301 S Main, St. Blacksburg, VA Buddy.
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  It's been a long time since been a two man show.
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  Yeah man, it's it's kind of weird seeing just me and you on
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  this, this picture here, man. It's been about a year, this
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  time in 2023, when last time we went Just Me and You on the solo
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  here A. 100% about a year ago Now Our other two guys, Tally
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  and Shelton, out tonight. Shelton is knee deep into the
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  Hokies BC game right now writing an article for Key Play.
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  Obviously he'll bring some knowledge back when he comes
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  with us. Tally's got some personal things
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  going on. If you're not aware, Tally's son
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  got injured in some basketball practice about a month and a
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  half ago. They were finally getting that
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  straight, getting cast off. So he's having to take care of
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  him, which we completely understand being fathers
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  ourselves. They both will be back very soon
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  and we definitely miss them tonight because we're A-Team
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  here. So, but Brian, has everything
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  been going on your end? You got the game up.
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  I mean, Toki's up five with right at six minutes left off 6.
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  Poteet makes a free throw. Yeah, I got the game on.
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  Been following a little bit here, you know lead, lead man,
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  I'll take it. Lead to lead the way.
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  This team has kind of been up and down in the month of January
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  in particular. I'll take a lead right now.
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  Take a lead that is now 7 points, so we'll be we'll be
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  continuing to follow that. Make a little updates here
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  throughout the episode. Got quite a few things to unload
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  tonight. At the back half of the episode
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  we are going to reveal what we call the perfect schedule.
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  Yes, we know some things got leaked today and some things
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  were put out there, but we still had our perfect schedules the
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  way we felt would be the best for the Hokies in 2024.
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  We're going to discuss that and we're also going to be
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  discussing the early enrollees. There were nine of this 2024
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  class already on campus already in winter workouts.
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  Kind of taking a look at those guys and seeing potentially who
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  can make impact. Special team is anybody going to
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  need to sit a year. But Brian, this afternoon, man,
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  I mean you talk about, I don't know how to express it like guy,
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  we were kids when he was playing.
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  We've watched his, you know, own field as a coach.
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  But what a pleasure it was this afternoon sitting with JC Price.
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  Yeah, man, it was definitely kind of surreal, right?
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  Yeah, that's probably the best way to to describe it here.
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  Kind of surreal. You know, somebody that you know
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  when we first got, got into following the Hokies, I mean he
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  was that guy and, and and there's a guy that was was
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  living in the trenches about that time playing wreck ball,
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  starting to get, you know, looking at middle school
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  football. Like guy like that was somebody
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  that you kind of looked up to. And obviously with him being Aga
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  in the early 2000s and then coming back to the Hokies a few
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  years back, I mean this is kind of a a big full circle moment
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  getting him on the podcast and being able to talk to him and
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  and kind of cut up a little bit man, because he's a big
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  personality and he definitely let's that shine.
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  Well, he does let it shine, and we had him for about 30 minutes
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  this afternoon. He was up in at a barbecue joint
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  in Northern Virginia or up in the DC Northern Virginia area
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  traveling this week. So Brian, without further ado,
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  let's go ahead and let's play our interview with coach and
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  hokey legend JC Price, The Boundary Corner Podcast
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  listeners. Today we have a very special
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  guest with us. He is currently the defensive
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  line coach for your Virginia Tech Hokies.
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  He is a hokey legend himself playing from 1992 to 1995 where
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  he was an All American. He also is a holder of the lunch
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  pail. Ladies and gentlemen, this is JC
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  Price, Coach Price. Hey, how we doing?
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  Hey Coach, how we doing today? Doing great, man.
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  Doing great. How you looks like you.
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  Where are you coach? I'm at like a barbecue joint
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  here in DC kind of rolled in here.
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  You know, I rolled in a little earlier than I thought.
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  I didn't realize. I thought the the ride from
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  Raleigh would be a little bit longer.
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  And I just stopped off. Grabbed something to eat with.
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  Great spot, man. I'm not.
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  I'm not. I'm not Quinn with the expert
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  dining tips, but this place is pretty.
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  The brisket was pretty good. Nice.
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  And we can still break Red Hokey style there.
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  That's what it's all about. Red.
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  Hokey. Style.
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  All right, coach. So I know you got a you got a
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  thin window here. You're on the road you're you're
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  you're doing a lot of talking to recruits this week.
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  So where are you heading the rest of the week?
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  What, what's, what's that kind of on your schedule and and and
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  and who are we looking at? Well this the week started off
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  yesterday or actually yesterday in Raleigh and and basically
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  right now this week I'm I'm seeing D lineman you know I'm
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  seeing some D lineman that aren't in my primary recruiting
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  area so I I'll be I was in Raleigh yesterday in Durham now
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  I'm up here in DC which I still recruit a little bit of Maryland
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  emergence from Maryland So me EB and my coach Pride will be
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  floating around DC area tomorrow and little bit on.
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  The. Footprint.
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  Let's talk about this. What has been the biggest key to
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  success when it comes to recruitment?
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  Not only the high schoolers, but also the portal guys to
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  Blacksburg, because obviously we've seen a change in the last
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  few years what what you and other members.
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  And then you on top of that, you put, you know, us in a room of
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  kids and we're just ourselves. When we try to show the kids who
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  we are every day, we don't we don't try to put on a false
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  bravado or a front and try to be somebody we're not when they're
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  there and be somebody different when they get on campus.
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  We we just who we are. We're we're a group of guys who
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  have the same common goals and enjoy being around each other
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  and and Coach Prize put together a hell of a staff.
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  You know it's you know a staff of like minded people and you
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  know we have a good time every day and we just you know when
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  you when you when you have fun every day at work.
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  I don't know if you can call it work.
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  Yeah, that that's. I love you saying that because
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  it's you talk like minded people and you are who you are because
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  you know they are. Like you said, who you are on
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  the road is who you are in Blacksburg.
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  And you know, I love hearing that and obviously we know you
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  are who you are because we we we were chopping it up with Coach
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  Price for a few minutes before we hopped on and y'all this is
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  who he is behind the scenes. This is who he is right up front
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  in living color talking to us today.
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  Oh. I I tell people all the time,
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  I'm too old to lie. I can't.
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  I don't worry about that. You know, too old and too dumb
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  to lie. Just just go be yourself and you
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  know and just present Blacksburg for what it is the greatest
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  small college town in America. And either, you know, it's going
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  to resonate with some kids and some kids it's it's not for and
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  if it's not for you, that's OK you know, you know you can only
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  you. You only go to one school, so.
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  Yep. And I mean it's good hearing
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  that and I know you talked about you know just being your your
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  authentic selves and you know we we had some some feedback
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  directly on that. We had Keelan Adams dad on and
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  Kyron Drone's dad on back before the holidays there.
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  And that that was the thing that they kept talking about
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  throughout that episode was just how first of all you guys are
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  and how you're you are who you are, whether you're getting
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  talked to outside of the recruiting cycle or you know
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  whatever it is, you know you guys have always been authentic
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  the whole time. So I think that's that's big for
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  sure and that that's that's definitely resonating.
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  Let's let's flip it a little bit to more kind of current roster,
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  upcoming roster. The last season D line helped
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  the Hokies top 15 in sacks in the country.
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  You got you got Kendricks, Payne and Pollard moving on obviously
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  at this point. But she kind of turned to the
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  portal into the junior college ranks and got three impressive
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  folks coming in with Peebles, Gilliam and Copeland with those
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  big holes to fill in the interior.
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  What do you like most about each of those additions?
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  Well, you know, first thing is, you know when you when you lose
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  3 valuable players who play. I mean when you think about
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  Norell and Mario who play a lot of football and then just the
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  impact that Phil Darius made in his one year of eligibility
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  because he, you know, had set the year to 20 fillies.
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  You know, we looked and it was it was kind of a strange feel
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  because you have guys, you know, that are within the pipeline and
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  and we felt like, you know, and I'm excited about those guys
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  that are coming up. But all three of them had you
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  know a major injury. They didn't get to practice a
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  lot, you know. So we felt like their
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  development was probably a little bit behind because they
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  they didn't get to practice much.
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  You know, Gunner had the thumb then the knee.
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  Malachi had the knee. Lamar had the, you know, it was
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  a back and it was just you know, so it kind of stung to their
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  growth a little bit. So we thought there was
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  definitely a need to go out and get some guys who played a lot
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  of ball and how blessed are we to get in the as people's man.
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  I mean you talk about a guy who can go proven proven player in
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  the ACC all Conference. I mean God leave now.
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  I pinch myself every day. I couldn't wait to get him on
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  campus, lock him in. I just was pinching myself every
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  day that would, you know she did a great job with the prior
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  relationship with the family and he would help recruiting the
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  Duke to begin with. And you know and there was
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  pressure on him to return the Duke and you know he stuck
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  through his word and man he's on campus right now lighting it up.
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  You know Kelvin Gillian, the Highland Springs guy, you know,
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  I I I couldn't actually recruit him when he came out because I
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  was at Marshall. So he was a little bit out of my
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  range when I was at Marshall. But real disappointed he didn't
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  go to Tech to begin with. But he tends to go to Oklahoma
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  and I think it's going to be a a really good deal for him because
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  we play a we're going to play a different style than they played
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  Oklahoma. I think this could definitely
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  fit his skill set a little bit more and real excited to have
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  him. And I mean Kamari.
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  I mean, what a story Kamari has. I mean that guy, he was down
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  there in 757. Kellam High School, one of one
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  of the best high school coaches in the 757.
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  He's retired now, got in Chris DeWitt, which is a good friend
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  of mine. I was at Marshall and we were
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  recruiting and he was playing middle linebacker.
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  And of course I was recruiting to be AB lineman.
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  I didn't tell him I was recruiting to be a linebacker.
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  But after I saw him run and then you know it didn't work out for
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  us at Marshall, you know he wanted a little bit more high
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  academic side. So he ended up going to Army and
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  and then didn't. The army wasn't for him and so
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  then he went to the JUCO which shot out to the Iowa Western
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  guys. You talk about the junior
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  college that's doing it right, holding guys accountable, not
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  just taking any any time Dick and Harry off the street, you
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  know vetting the guys, taking the right guys into the program
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  and holding them accountable. I mean, Iowa Western needs to be
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  a staple for our recruiting process every year and and
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  Kamari fit that building with their their athletic ability.
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  Man, I'm I'm really excited to have those guys.
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  Man, that's that's great to hear.
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  The yeah, the the Aneas people's won.
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  Obviously we got to see him playing that bowl game and then
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  the last play of the bowl game right before June.
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  I think it's impressive and it says a lot about y'all y'all
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  letting you know it wasn't any ill will.
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  Like you want to go play with your old school, go play, have a
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  great time, enjoy those perks. He goes out there and balls
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  including makes the basically the game-winning tackle or
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  game-winning snack air and you just saw it with him.
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  You know Gillian, the Copeland story is an amazing story and it
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  also shows you that young man's work ethic, right?
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  Like he didn't quit, he didn't quit.
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  So, so many people would stop on that and I want to kind of keep
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  it in house but keep work that given how things are going.
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  But what returning player in your position room last year
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  that'll be back this year showed the most growth from this point
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  last year winter workout until the bowl game at Tulane.
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  Who took the biggest steps in your eyes, in in whatever way?
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  I'd probably you know, I probably have to say Cole
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  Nelson. You know I think Cole the last
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  couple years he had a a foot that was bothering him and he
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  was he was fighting through it and you know he didn't start to
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  begin the season. You know Keith Schonberg S had a
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  hell of a camp and was penciling as a starter and and all Cole
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  did was keep working and obviously he showed some things
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  this year that he hadn't shown before some play making
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  abilities that that I asked him, you know, you know he he had to
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  show those qualities. You know he he had been a steady
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  Eddy guy and kind of a I'm always going to be in the right
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  place but he wasn't making splash plays until this year and
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  I figured a little bit had to do with his foot getting a little
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  bit better and all of a sudden you you you saw his athletic
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  ability but Cole has the toughness in leadership that
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  that we desperately need and and that he's done a great job
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  already. You know we haven't really seen
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  the guys. That's what's crazy.
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  You know we get back we get back from the bowl game and we we
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  immediately go on the road and those guys start working out and
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  and I know Cole is is is been in touch with me and let me know
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  how things are going and he's he's just become a great leader
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  and a great player for us. Let me ask this, Coach Price and
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  how you like, how you guys deal with it because you mentioned
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  Cole with the foot injury. When you go, when you know a guy
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  is nicked up or a guy isn't quite right, you have the
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  training staff. But how important is it having
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  the relationship where they'll they're willing to tell you,
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  Coach, this isn't feeling right because obviously you're out
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  there and you're having to make decisions.
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  You know of who's going to start rotate, who's going to play my
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  nickel sets, who's going to maybe play a A3 technique when
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  we go with a small package, how important is it that they come
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  to? You're laughing.
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  Go ahead, Coach. I mean, it's, you know it.
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  It's it's it's important that they communicate and it's
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  important. That's all the guys don't Don't
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  think being in the training room's a sign of weakness.
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  That doesn't mean that you're weak.
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  That means you preempt or you continue.
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  Once something bothers you, it's going to bother you until the
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  season's over. But the thing I always tell them
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  is this PG on this thing or is this?
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  No, you can let it ride. So what I tell them all the time
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  is nobody gives a shit if you play.
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  You're not hurt, right? They're not going to have the
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  asterisks in the comments the Hokies played today, but Colton
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  Nelson wasn't feeling good. Nobody gives a shit.
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  If you're on the field, you're expect to perform, expect to
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  play. Now if you're injured, then you
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  can't play. That's different.
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  But if you you know being hurt and fighting through injuries is
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  a part of sports in general. I have a daughter that's
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  fighting through a a knee right now.
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  It's an 11th grader. So it's just that's a part of
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  the deal. If you if you want to be a major
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  college athlete, then you got to learn how to fight through it.
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  But they always get on me. Oh, it won't be in the paper.
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  And I'm playing, you know, there's no astronaut.
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  I'm not going to change the score because Cole wasn't
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  feeling good today. So that's why.
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  That's why I started laughing. He only he only had two tackles
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  but he's got a he's got a knee that he's dealing with so you
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  know that's all right so. Being easy on him in the press
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  conference, Nobody cares, man. Nobody cares.
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  I told him I care. Yeah.
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  But nobody else outside the building cares.
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  Well, what happened so much with us as fans, if we see a guy not
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  playing that great when when they've exploded a few games
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  before, it's like what's wrong? Did he he tweaked something and
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  and it's like you said you they've got to fight through it.
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  But if they're not communicating with what the issue is like, I
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  know that probably frustrates you when you see somebody not as
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  explosive and you're like. Listen.
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  Well, I know why. You guys won't know why.
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  Because we're not the NFL. We don't have to just disclose
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  our injuries. You know so.
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  You know, you know, the NFL has to do it for all the gambling
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  sites. You know, you got to mention it,
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  who's playing everything, where, you know, we try to keep those
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  things in house and because we don't want to give our opponents
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  a an advantage because they know somebody's a little beamed up or
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  or whatnot and it's nobody's business but ours.
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  And it it is frustrating sometimes when you see a guy
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  really have two great weeks and all of a sudden he doesn't play
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  up to his capability. But that that's all part of it
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  and you've got to be able to to navigate that and work through
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  it. You got guys like me that go
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  back and watch the tape. I was like, is he, is he a
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  little step slower? Is this like a matchup issue?
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  Like what? What's?
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  What's happening? Here.
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  Yeah, Coach Price gained 10 lbs. This week.
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  He's not coaching as well, so. Oh.
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  God. Nobody cares, man.
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  Nobody cares. That's right.
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  That's right. You bailed that one.
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  Let's let's let's turn it over a little bit here.
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  So last season Coach Pry came in and he kind of kept a good hold
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  of the reigns of the defense last year and then that got
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  fully handed over to Coach Marv in year two.
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  What's the biggest, I'll say the non tendency difference between
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  Coach Pry and Coach Marv as a defensive coordinator.
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  You know Marv, Marv was brought up under coach Price to live and
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  play for Coach Pry. So there's not, there's not a
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  lot of difference, maybe some third down stuff.
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  But you know our first and second down calls are probably
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  the same that that coach Prize used his whole career And and
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  don't get it wrong now he was in our meetings.
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  So don't. Don't think he wasn't in there
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  voice of pain, just because he wasn't calling it, but you know,
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  marvelous, he loosened. The reins He didn't.
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  Handed nothing over, though, he was in the meetings plenty.
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  Don't worry about that, you know.
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  And I think we got better as as we simplified things as we
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  eliminated some calls. You know the biggest difference
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  between this year and last year one I did a better job coaching
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  the D line as far as getting off blocks and and getting more of
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  what coach Pride wanted to see out of us.
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  And then you know last year we we struggled playing man
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  coverage and this year we could you know, and and me anytime
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  Mars mentions you know what do you want to play?
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  I want to play man coverage, and she didn't want to play man
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  coverage because man coverage equals sax.
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  That's a that's a mentality, right?
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  That's a mentality. 100% and so we were able to do that.
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  Obviously we had two, two of the best corners in the ACC and and
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  and what a testament to our staff and and our culture to get
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  all those guys back. Now we're so excited leaving
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  joining the next year. Was having a better feel for
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  like personnel and and that that comfort level was, did that play
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  any into that those decisions as well or or was it just more of a
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  you got better and you were able to kind of lean on those things
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  that you wanted to do more often?
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  Well I think anytime you know, first of all the first year we
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  still had some guys who were on the fence didn't really.
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  So that first year you had guys who are do I really want to buy
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  in this culture do I really want to put in what what we think
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  what we deem as necessary to go win a championship.
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  And and we still had guys that were that were not bought in and
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  and I would say we we had even more guys this year that than
• 20:59
  ever before that were bought into what we think what it takes
• 21:02
  necessary mentality and and those things it takes to win a
• 21:05
  championship and being selfless and being team first and all
• 21:09
  those things which you know that that led you know for us to stay
• 21:13
  together after a one and three start and and for the seven and
• 21:16
  six. I think it's a testament not
• 21:18
  just to the coaches that but to the players to the leadership on
• 21:21
  this team. You know and Norelle Pollard
• 21:23
  coming back for for another year of his Cobra gear and and what
• 21:27
  we talked to him about don't come back and be the same guy.
• 21:30
  You know leave leave a legacy mark of of not just going to a
• 21:33
  bowl but going but winning the bowl because we hadn't done that
• 21:36
  in so long and and that's what he did and and that's just you
• 21:40
  know it it was a lot of fun but now we got to take the next step
• 21:43
  got. To take the next step, let me
• 21:46
  ask this because you you mentioned the one and three
• 21:47
  start and then obviously the rebound in the last eight games
• 21:51
  going five and three, you know, keeping the Commonwealth Cup in
• 21:54
  Blacksburg. But I'm going to go back to the
• 21:56
  Syracuse game because that night your defensive line wreak
• 22:02
  absolute havoc on them. Tell me from like a sideline
• 22:07
  perspective when like all the practice that we everything,
• 22:10
  like every, you know, every calls, clicking, everything you
• 22:13
  tell them they're doing. Like, is it just, is it slow MO
• 22:17
  for you guys, or is it just so fast-paced?
• 22:20
  It's like Bam, another sack, another tackle.
• 22:24
  For loss as a coach you know you have you have some of those
• 22:27
  nights where you roll out there and it's just your night and
• 22:30
  that's kind of how that felt. It was whatever Marv called
• 22:34
  whatever I asked the deal on do, we were just rolling sevens and
• 22:37
  it's just you know you're going to have those nights and then
• 22:40
  you have nights where you're on the other side.
• 22:41
  You know and no matter what you do does this doesn't seem to to
• 22:45
  to work and it's definitely a lot more fun when you're all the
• 22:49
  sevens on the sidelines than when you're not.
• 22:51
  So but that that was a fun night for.
• 22:55
  Sure, 100%. And let me throw one.
• 22:59
  This is my throwback question. This is the only throwback
• 23:01
  question right now because you answered real good.
• 23:04
  I'm going to go back 1995 after the Cincinnati lost their
• 23:08
  stories. We've talked with some of your
• 23:09
  teammates from 1995, the White Victoria being one.
• 23:14
  Y'all call the players. Only me before the Miami game.
• 23:18
  You're O And two, this isn't like 9394, where Tech was riding
• 23:23
  some bad stuff that happened. Can you divulge anything you or
• 23:27
  any of the captains or anyone said in that meeting that
• 23:31
  sparked that run from the Miami game, where the first time we
• 23:35
  beat them to beat Texas in the Sugar Bowl in New Orleans on New
• 23:40
  Year's Eve. Because I mean, I think for me
• 23:44
  and Brian that I was 12 years old, that's kind of the first
• 23:48
  season I remember like I can remember pieces of that season.
• 23:52
  But what happened in that meeting, If you can divulge, if
• 23:54
  you can, if it's one upon, you know we get it.
• 23:58
  No, it was, it was actually, we never really caught it a players
• 24:02
  only meeting. It was actually we, you know we
• 24:05
  used to do those halftime locker rooms after the game and it was
• 24:09
  we were in the locker room after the Cincinnati game.
• 24:12
  And you know, I know I get a lot of credit for being a leader on
• 24:15
  that team. But the guy who really stood up
• 24:17
  was Jim Baron. Jim Baron said and said we're
• 24:20
  not. We're done with this shit and
• 24:21
  and we're going to work harder. We're going to invest more.
• 24:25
  And if that if that means we don't win, that's one thing.
• 24:27
  But we're going to invest more. We're going to work harder.
• 24:29
  We're going to do more film. We're just going to do more than
• 24:32
  anybody the rest of the year And and you know and obviously there
• 24:36
  was more than more than him spoke.
• 24:38
  He was the first person that really stood up and and we all
• 24:42
  took his lead that day and it wasn't a player it was in the
• 24:45
  locker room after the Cincinnati game after that that
• 24:47
  heartbreaking just lost 16 nothing in the mud and and
• 24:51
  that's what we did and and that's what we went out and and
• 24:53
  in the senior class just led by example and then we went out and
• 24:58
  and we outworked everybody from there on out and you know didn't
• 25:02
  miss anything and held guys accountable.
• 25:04
  And this and that said that we not to say we we didn't feel
• 25:08
  like we were before but we just turned it up a notch and you
• 25:13
  know and it didn't come easy. I mean everybody nobody
• 25:17
  remembers the schedule they remember the score they remember
• 25:20
  they remember the the wins loss. Nobody remembers that we only
• 25:23
  beat Navy 14 nothing. Then remember that we had to
• 25:26
  block 2 punts at Pitt to beat Pitt with a good running back
• 25:30
  Billy West. So you know people remember the
• 25:34
  the the the the final record they don't remember how you get
• 25:37
  there that's it's all about schedule.
• 25:38
  Well. I did.
• 25:40
  Now when I when I do remember, I don't remember the other two, I
• 25:43
  do remember the UDA game because being down in everything that
• 25:48
  happened in the second-half with, you know, there's always
• 25:51
  the story. The Sugar Bowl officials are
• 25:53
  there. They're choosing one of these
• 25:54
  teams and you get down and then defense bows up in the
• 25:58
  second-half. That allows Druckenmiller and
• 26:01
  them to lead it back. I mean, again, I'm 12.
• 26:04
  I'm trying to go back into memory bank, right?
• 26:07
  I'm a middle school. Kid, when's the last time you
• 26:09
  watched that game, Curtis to? Watch Which game are you?
• 26:12
  The game? It's awesome to watch.
• 26:14
  That one I did? I'll say this.
• 26:16
  Rest in Peaks, Hokey Hokey Tapes, man.
• 26:18
  Rest in Peaks Hokey Tapes. I do remember this though.
• 26:22
  You were on the coaching staff for the first game I attended
• 26:25
  was UCF back in 2003. That was the first game I ever
• 26:28
  set foot in lane. I know you were Aga at that
• 26:31
  point, like that was Aga year. Were you still in high school in
• 26:34
  O3? All three I was in VA.
• 26:36
  You're Aga. So you were on the sidelines the
• 26:39
  first time I was there. I watched that game in full this
• 26:42
  year. I don't.
• 26:42
  I just. I just went down a rabbit hole
• 26:44
  one night and just started watching it because, I mean,
• 26:46
  that is what it is. So.
• 26:48
  It's funny, you go back to the UVA game in 95, yeah?
• 26:51
  And. And everybody remembers certain
• 26:53
  things. And you can go back and watch
• 26:56
  the game and then you can call me back and tell me if I'm wrong
• 26:59
  or not because I haven't watched the game in a long time.
• 27:02
  I I remember the best personal foul ever by George Valrico,
• 27:07
  right? So they get and back then.
• 27:10
  I don't think it was automatic first down or something.
• 27:12
  But so he gets a personal foul. It's third in a mile.
• 27:17
  It gets him like the 4th and 1:00.
• 27:18
  Instead of kicking the field goal, they go for it and we stop
• 27:21
  them like they were going to kick a field goal.
• 27:24
  But he did something stupid, something aggressive and they
• 27:26
  fragged him and then we end up stopping him.
• 27:29
  And then the people remember the drunken.
• 27:31
  Another thing. But you know, obviously I'm
• 27:34
  biased. Other than Bruce Smith, I still
• 27:35
  think Cornell Brown's the the best player D line we've ever
• 27:38
  played at the junior tech other than Bruce.
• 27:41
  And literally we're on the sideline together before that
• 27:43
  last drive that we got the ball back to the offense and me and
• 27:46
  him. So we got to go do something and
• 27:49
  there was 3 plays in a row I think he had.
• 27:51
  ATFLI had a sack. He had a sack of the jog off the
• 27:54
  field and and and that's kind of, you know, you're going to
• 27:58
  have guys with that mentality that we're going to go out there
• 28:00
  and pick it upon ourselves, not and not hope that somebody makes
• 28:03
  a play, we're going to go make a play.
• 28:05
  So that's what I remember the most.
• 28:07
  Then being trapped on the bottom one of those piles, I thought I
• 28:09
  was going to suffocate. No fun at all.
• 28:15
  No, I want to give people the hell I'm not.
• 28:16
  I thought I was going to suffocate.
• 28:18
  I really did. But it was good.
• 28:20
  The first cigar. The first cigar, Right.
• 28:22
  So. There we go, Your cigar and you
• 28:24
  and you have made it a trend. I love the trend in that
• 28:27
  stadium, Coach. The The worst part is the locker
• 28:30
  room was like a hookah bar. After this year I we might be
• 28:33
  able to put the brakes on that thing.
• 28:35
  All cigar smoking needs to be outside, but it was.
• 28:38
  Then they'll turn the sprinklers on you again.
• 28:40
  Oh yeah, that that just that just made it so much better.
• 28:43
  I mean, I'm so glad they did that just showed you how petty
• 28:46
  they were. And it was just that that really
• 28:49
  made it even even better. It really did if they were to
• 28:51
  just took it. But that that just shows you
• 28:54
  what kind of robbery it is. And it was, it was funny.
• 28:57
  I got a kick out of that house, you know, honestly, I got a kick
• 29:00
  out of that, so. Well coach, we're we're all
• 29:03
  close it out with this question here.
• 29:05
  You're you're sitting in a restaurant right now enjoying
• 29:07
  some barbecue in the DC area but let's pull it back to
• 29:10
  Blacksburg. We always ask all the all the
• 29:12
  coaches and players that we have along what's the go to spot in
• 29:16
  the bird when you're going out whether it's for beers, food
• 29:20
  whatever it may be. What's your go to spot?
• 29:23
  I went when I first came back you know and and the family
• 29:26
  wasn't with me. I I flipped the coin between
• 29:27
  Mackadoos and PKS. But I do find myself at BW
• 29:31
  threes quite a bit because I do think they have the coldest beer
• 29:34
  on tap. But it's PKS.
• 29:36
  It's PKS by far it it's if you if I'm we're going to go out or
• 29:40
  we're going to have a few beers or you know get a few get some
• 29:43
  dinner and stuff. I'm PK Shout out to Mike Whaley.
• 29:46
  He's a great dude and we're close friends and have been that
• 29:49
  way since because we were in college and that.
• 29:52
  That's my good two spot. Definitely speak case.
• 29:54
  Has has Cheetah got you on the cheetah wing kick or or how's
• 29:58
  that? Going Oh yeah.
• 29:59
  It's so funny is that, you know, I I refuse to get him just
• 30:03
  because he was bragging on him so much Like I was like probably
• 30:07
  the last person to try and because I was like, no, I'm not.
• 30:10
  I wouldn't do that as Spike, you know I was like no, I'm not
• 30:12
  doing it. I'm not eating those things just
• 30:13
  because you said they're good and you know and they put them
• 30:15
  on the me and I didn't even want to boycott them even more.
• 30:20
  But then I did try it, and that's a staple I it's I don't
• 30:23
  get hot wings without the the lemon pepper anymore for cheetah
• 30:26
  wings #1. Yeah, lemon pepper is always the
• 30:29
  way to go. It is a good thing.
• 30:30
  As soon as I saw what what was it, I was like, yo, yeah, this
• 30:32
  is, this is going to be a hit. Yeah, it was good.
• 30:35
  It was good. I'll give it to him.
• 30:37
  Well, well, Coach Price, you know, we really appreciate you
• 30:41
  taking 30 minutes of your day. We know how busy you are, you
• 30:44
  know up and down the footprint and you know thank you for
• 30:48
  everything that's been done because I'd go back to 21 Brian
• 30:52
  and Brian. I think we were you over at the
• 30:54
  house that day when you made, when when you said what you said
• 30:58
  after beating UVAI think that went a long ways and I think a
• 31:03
  lot of people. I think for us, I think, you
• 31:06
  know, that was the beginning of the climbing out in my opinion.
• 31:12
  In my opinion. I really do because it because
• 31:15
  it showed how much this program meant to you.
• 31:18
  And for us, for people who have been fans 2530 years, the alumni
• 31:22
  of the school, it showed like when this place gets the right
• 31:27
  people, it's dangerous. Obviously. 100% in in In my
• 31:32
  feeling, Brian and Brian's not Far is right.
• 31:35
  I'm going to rubber stamp that one right, right away, man.
• 31:38
  It it felt like the the heart of the team had returned.
• 31:43
  Well, it was totally UN unrehearsed.
• 31:45
  I had no idea what I was going to say.
• 31:46
  So it just came out. It was from the heart and that's
• 31:50
  how I feel. And you know, my daughter and my
• 31:53
  daughter's a sophomore now at Tech.
• 31:55
  And that's just, that's an incredible feeling, you know,
• 31:58
  come full circle. All right, well, coach, you go
• 32:02
  finish up your meal. We're sure you're probably about
• 32:04
  to hit some what? What's the name of the
• 32:06
  conference? Brian?
• 32:07
  I always forget it. I always screwed up the
• 32:09
  conference up in DC. Oh, I'm blanking now 'cause you
• 32:12
  called me out. Mathon.
• 32:14
  Oh, the WCAC. There we go.
• 32:16
  You. Go get all those WCCA schools in
• 32:20
  the next few hours here visiting your D lineman.
• 32:23
  We appreciate you taking the time this afternoon to spend
• 32:25
  with us and Go Hokies coach. Well, I appreciate it and and
• 32:29
  the one we got coming, he wasn't allowed to enroll mid year, but
• 32:34
  Emmett Laws is going to be a beast.
• 32:37
  He showed it. He showed it.
• 32:39
  I'm, I'm excited. I'm excited about that one.
• 32:42
  I am too all. Right, coach.
• 32:45
  Appreciate the time. Well, no worry.
• 32:47
  Appreciate you guys and anytime. Appreciate.
• 32:50
  Have a good one. OK man.
• 32:56
  Was fire. Yeah nothing but nothing but the
• 33:05
  heat from coach Price there man. He really brought it.
• 33:08
  I really you know you can tell he's speaking from the heart at
• 33:12
  all time man. Like every everything just seems
• 33:15
  so authentic when it when it comes out of his mouth and you
• 33:19
  know he spoke a lot of truth. I mean talking about some of the
• 33:21
  guys that that are coming in and yeah, I I loved him talking
• 33:24
  about the the feelings towards you know guys like Copeland and
• 33:28
  how excited he was that you know he got peoples in the boat.
• 33:31
  He stayed in the boat and got enroll.
• 33:34
  I mean, just that whole thing, man, was was really awesome to
• 33:37
  hear. Well then here right at the end
• 33:39
  and that was kind of uncompromised.
• 33:40
  We didn't, we hadn't planned on mentioning the young guys.
• 33:43
  He's excited about it at LAWS. Yeah, yeah, and and you know.
• 33:47
  He he brought that up UN unprompted.
• 33:49
  Unprompted, we we, we. I didn't think about mentioning
• 33:52
  anything with the young guys coming in, but he brought that
• 33:55
  unprompted. It tells you a lot right there
• 33:58
  and he does. He loves the school.
• 34:00
  Like Robbie said there, we appreciate it.
• 34:03
  It was AI felt like. I felt like we could have won
• 34:08
  another 3545 minutes, another hour, honestly, just just
• 34:13
  talking with him back and forth and and it's funny how he
• 34:16
  recollected those plays because now I pulled up the game and
• 34:22
  started hitting and I had to find it and it was very late in
• 34:24
  the game. It wasn't the last defensive
• 34:27
  series, it was the next to last. He won't off by much on where it
• 34:31
  was. He went off by where he actually
• 34:35
  gave Cornell. I think an extra bunk is
• 34:37
  actually he he he had the tackle for loss and then they had
• 34:41
  back-to-back sacks. And and here they are right
• 34:43
  there. This is 1995 with exactly what
• 34:47
  Coach Price was talking about. We'll pull that up Real.
• 34:49
  Quick, what a game. Thank you John Virginia trying
• 34:53
  to put this one away. They got to get the ball going
• 34:56
  though, is grow is taken down and again it's JC Price.
• 35:00
  He's made two big defensive plays in a row.
• 35:05
  AC just kept pushing, pushing inside.
• 35:07
  Micro stepped up and got into Price's, Price's arms and he
• 35:11
  just kept going there and that's a nice job by Price pushing his
• 35:13
  way through. A reminder there's more football
• 35:16
  coming up the second-half of our double header.
• 35:17
  Arkansas, LSU and the SEC. Most of you watching this game,
• 35:21
  we'll see the Northwestern, Purdue game as those Wildcats
• 35:24
  are having some kind of year. UCLAUSC, Colorado, Kansas State,
• 35:28
  Utah, BYU all come up next here on ABC Sports 3rd down and 16
• 35:37
  grow under Crutcher Goes. Down.
• 35:41
  Again George Del Rico and Cornell Brown.
• 35:44
  Look at that dance. Look at that dance.
• 35:46
  And by the way. It's funny and.
• 35:47
  It's actually it. It should noted after Cornell
• 35:51
  makes the stack as he picked him up again.
• 35:53
  Baron. Yep, Jim Baron.
• 35:55
  The the individual that was the placement completing the middle
• 36:00
  of that area is right there. Jim Baron, the football and
• 36:05
  exactly well, back in the 90s. And it's.
• 36:09
  It's it's awesome to see that I'm I'm probably am at some
• 36:12
  point I don't know when I'm probably going to watch that
• 36:14
  game beginning to end it's it's been it'll be 29 years yeah.
• 36:18
  You got to look at the the best personal foul ever.
• 36:20
  You got to find that. We got to find that, well, he
• 36:23
  said. That was late in the game and I
• 36:24
  went later in the game and it and it, it took me like 2
• 36:26
  minutes to find that. So it didn't take me any time.
• 36:28
  But yeah, and I love Chris Lester here, mentioning about
• 36:33
  how excited they are about Laws and Thomas, yeah, the whole
• 36:36
  staff in general, he mentions about that, how personal they
• 36:39
  are and everything. And they're a tight knit group
• 36:41
  it sounds like too. So like they enjoy, I think they
• 36:45
  have a good energy, they complimentary energy.
• 36:47
  They seem to bring kind of the best out of each other.
• 36:50
  So that I think we're starting to see them gel as well.
• 36:52
  Like we saw the players gel on the field, they're starting to
• 36:55
  gel as a staff a little bit too. So that that's really good to
• 36:58
  see. All righty.
• 36:59
  I'm looking up here at the hoops game.
• 37:01
  Hokies up six under 16 minutes to go and well, here we go.
• 37:09
  I'm going to put this one up, Brian, because this is where
• 37:11
  we're going to next. We're going to talk about the
• 37:13
  early enrollees. And Brian, I'm going to let you
• 37:16
  answer this question Thomas put up here before we get into those
• 37:19
  guys, put some, you know you played at the D3 level, but what
• 37:25
  is the importance for guys to get in early, what you think?
• 37:31
  I think it's big and because there's going to be two things
• 37:34
  that you've got to do as you're coming on campus that that's
• 37:37
  going to be important. You got to, you got to match the
• 37:39
  speed of the game that step up in competition level and you got
• 37:44
  to get your body physically ready to play against that
• 37:48
  level. Competition, getting in there
• 37:50
  and spring helps you do a lot of the 1st and a little bit of the
• 37:55
  2nd. So by doing that you're going to
• 37:58
  get that type of head start against anybody else that's
• 38:00
  enrolling come fall. And that's even with guys that
• 38:04
  are working out with, you know these, you know, personal
• 38:07
  trainers that are, that are putting them through a
• 38:09
  collegiate level workout every day.
• 38:11
  You know there's only so much that you can do outside of that,
• 38:14
  especially with having teammates that are at that level pushing
• 38:18
  you every day. You don't have that, I think,
• 38:20
  outside of outside of the the workout room with your
• 38:24
  teammates, so the experience is invaluable in my opinion.
• 38:29
  Well, I agree with the body thing also.
• 38:31
  I think it's habitual, right? I think getting there early, you
• 38:35
  start building your habits of the workouts where I'm going to
• 38:39
  meals, how classes run, how I'm looking at film, when can I go
• 38:43
  meet with coaches versus the guys And it's it's not knocking
• 38:46
  the guys who are getting there later that that's everybody has
• 38:49
  their own journey. But getting there and building
• 38:51
  that habit to where when fall camp rolls around, you know
• 38:54
  exactly what you're going to do, how you're going to do it,
• 38:57
  you're going to be very programmed to yourself.
• 38:59
  So all that going is we did have quite a few early enrollees and
• 39:04
  we want to look real quick here between me and Brian, who we
• 39:07
  think potential impact players in all phases, who we think are
• 39:11
  probably guaranteed to be on special teams and who might need
• 39:13
  a year, who might need to sit down a year and effectively take
• 39:18
  a red shirt. You know, that's, you know, we
• 39:21
  could call Chris Coleman out. Chris Coleman would say red
• 39:23
  shirt, all of them. But we're not in that air
• 39:26
  anymore, Chris. Always be red shirt.
• 39:28
  So real quick, if y'all do not know what high schoolers
• 39:33
  enrolled early, let's start with Keelan Brody Adams.
• 39:36
  He's already there. Joshua Clark.
• 39:39
  Did you see what Joshua Clark did the other day?
• 39:41
  Brian at practice. I did not.
• 39:44
  What do you do? He's he got part of the 20 mile
• 39:46
  an hour club. He got clock going 20 miles an
• 39:48
  hour. All right, so he's rolling up
• 39:49
  the gate. He's rolling up the gate.
• 39:51
  He's got that track speed. Track speed and it's 6 to 180
• 39:55
  already is ADB. He's already has that potential
• 39:57
  to be built significantly bigger.
• 39:59
  Hey, let's go and comment here, Jim.
• 40:01
  Jim's got it right, man. That is very, very, very true.
• 40:06
  Aw, man, Hit up. Chris's too, man.
• 40:08
  Chris, we saw him, man. I know he's not at home and he's
• 40:11
  up in Blacksburg, but, you know, it's a good thing.
• 40:14
  You know what's It's a good thing.
• 40:15
  No, it's a good thing, Chris. All right, we got Derek Dandy.
• 40:19
  The big defensive end out of North Carolina.
• 40:21
  Andrew Hanchup. The Ohio State.
• 40:25
  The, excuse me, the Ohio native. The defensive tackle 757 zone.
• 40:30
  Gerard Johnson. Tyler Mason.
• 40:33
  Mr. Video game numbers. Running back.
• 40:36
  Quinn Radish. Safety Quinn Radish, Safety
• 40:39
  Brand. Spoiler alert.
• 40:43
  Chance Wiggins and one of our favorite we got to interview and
• 40:48
  talk with him last spring. Gave Williams so a lot of highly
• 40:52
  talented guys on there bronze. So I'm going to kick it to you
• 40:56
  first. Who has the potential?
• 41:00
  Who has the potential? All phases.
• 41:06
  I think Quentin Reddish, just because of the position need and
• 41:10
  him being really under the radar in terms of his skill set and
• 41:13
  what he's bringing to the table. Good height, good, good, good
• 41:17
  size coming in, you know, tackling machine, good in
• 41:24
  coverage. He's a guy that I think is
• 41:27
  poised to be at least in a rotational position in year one.
• 41:33
  All righty, because you took him already.
• 41:37
  I'm going to take someone else. I think with the injury to
• 41:40
  Steven Gosnell, I think Brody Adams has a chance because of
• 41:44
  Adams, Chris Sprout running ability already and Brody coming
• 41:47
  in 6 to 185, he's what, 10 lbs. Probably something he could gain
• 41:53
  over the next 8 to 10 weeks in this type of program and we
• 41:56
  already know if it's the competition he played with down
• 41:59
  the 75. And again, I just think having
• 42:02
  someone and Brian you talked about it when he when he first
• 42:06
  committed, he is an elite route runner and when you get guys
• 42:10
  like that sometimes it's such an easy transition in him getting
• 42:13
  there early and everything. But my second in would be
• 42:18
  Quentin Register because of the safety room.
• 42:21
  So you know it's it's going to be crazy to see which of these
• 42:26
  guys can are there other guys. I mean, there's a reason why 2
• 42:32
  running backs left rod. There's a reason.
• 42:36
  Yeah, that that was that was going to be kind of my, you know
• 42:39
  you talked about Brody, Brody and Tyler going to be kind of my
• 42:42
  my two way to be on that list. Brody for the same reasons you
• 42:47
  mentioned and Tyler just because I think he's going to have some
• 42:51
  opportunity and I think there's always room for a guy that has
• 42:57
  that type of production. You at least want to get him out
• 43:00
  there see what he can do against the step up in competition.
• 43:05
  You know we talk about, you know it's it's Mount Airy the the the
• 43:09
  competition level was a little bit lower but I mean you you
• 43:13
  can't fake those type of numbers.
• 43:16
  No, you can't. I mean. 6000 yards in his career
• 43:20
  in high school 13.1 a Carrie. My man's averaging a a a first
• 43:29
  down and change a Carrie. This is not a joke.
• 43:35
  So but there is a reason. There is a reason now that he he
• 43:39
  comes in and guys leave. And it's no disrespect to Chance
• 43:43
  Black or Bryce Duke, but there's something special about this.
• 43:46
  All right, let's flip it, Brian. Let's talk about special teamers
• 43:51
  who definitely. First of all, we got a couple
• 43:56
  guys hidden here. We'll hit Coach Compton up
• 43:59
  talking about Tyler Mason. Different, different.
• 44:05
  But let's talk about who's definitely on the field, special
• 44:07
  teams, while I was one way or the other.
• 44:10
  Yeah, that that's that's that's a harder pick just because do
• 44:13
  you want to waste a a year of a guy's eligibility primarily
• 44:17
  running special teams in most cases no.
• 44:21
  In in most cases I'm I'm with Chris.
• 44:25
  We got to be red shirted in those cases.
• 44:29
  You know, looking looking at this list, if I had to, if I had
• 44:33
  to pick anybody, yeah, I could see a Joshua Clark with that
• 44:42
  speed getting on the field in some way that could be a
• 44:45
  contributing factor in special teams.
• 44:48
  OK. That would, that would probably
• 44:50
  be my top pick if we were going to do anything there.
• 44:52
  Well, that type of speed, I mean, you think gunner, you
• 44:54
  think things like that. I'm going to give you my I got
• 44:59
  A1A1B. My 1A is Derek Dandy.
• 45:03
  I think just a guy that size I I immediate size in his some of
• 45:07
  his athleticism immediately. Kick returns, probably doing
• 45:11
  stuff on a punt block unit just because of his size and getting
• 45:14
  him on the field, getting engaged with bigger bodies,
• 45:16
  being on the defensive line. My second and this is going to
• 45:21
  be what happens this spring and it's going to be a close story
• 45:25
  to watch. We already talked about it with
• 45:26
  Quinn. Reddish right.
• 45:28
  Safety position. If Keonta Jenkins start spending
• 45:33
  time in the safety room, Caleb Woodson's going to take over
• 45:37
  starting role. He showed he probably could do
• 45:39
  it, but then that gives Gabe Williams a chance to not only
• 45:43
  get valuable reps at linebacker where he is going to play and
• 45:48
  with his Frank, most likely if he does what we think it's going
• 45:51
  to happen, he's going to be at will, but getting on the field
• 45:54
  doesn't hurt. But again, Gabe's linked
• 45:56
  athleticism, putt block unit, kick, return units, things like
• 46:00
  that. That's where I lean with those
• 46:03
  guys and sort of say you know you sick guys who are 6, four
• 46:08
  long arms. Those are the guys that somehow
• 46:11
  sneak through and get their hand up and the next thing you know,
• 46:14
  a kick gets blocked one way or the other.
• 46:16
  And I can I can see Gabe having a Kelly Lawson level of gains
• 46:22
  between this spring and next spring where where he's going
• 46:27
  from you know right at 200 lbs to kind of that 2/22/15, 2:20
• 46:34
  range where where wheels on the table in terms of his position
• 46:40
  slot in there. So look look for that.
• 46:43
  But I I'm kind of with you that that would probably be my B if
• 46:48
  if if we were to get somebody on the field consistently it would
• 46:51
  be it would be Gabe getting him up to speed and things like
• 46:55
  that. So but yeah if we're talking
• 46:58
  just special teams it's going to be Joshua Clark.
• 47:00
  I feel like he could probably impact the most.
• 47:03
  All righty. Well, now let's flip to this
• 47:05
  because we've talked about guys we think we should see out there
• 47:09
  this year. Anybody particular, not
• 47:12
  necessarily because they can't play, but just like you
• 47:16
  mentioned with you know with Gabe and a couple other these
• 47:19
  guys, do we just want to get that red shirt on them because
• 47:23
  where they fit and how the ability that they have right now
• 47:27
  and where it's going to be in a couple years, Yeah, it's going
• 47:31
  to be better. You know I think with all the
• 47:35
  guys coming out and all the guys that come in and some of the
• 47:38
  youth that we already have that we need to get some reps that's
• 47:42
  getting into that red shirt sophomore range of their time in
• 47:46
  Blacksburg. I think I think hand shucks
• 47:50
  probably definitely going to going to be one of those guys
• 47:53
  that's that's taking the red shirt this year.
• 47:55
  Because we do have guys like you know that that coach Price was
• 48:00
  mentioning earlier that had some Knicks this past year that are
• 48:04
  younger and that's the reason you bring in so many guys in the
• 48:06
  portal. But you still have those guys
• 48:08
  waiting in the wings that we want to get some reps this year.
• 48:11
  So I feel like if if there's extra reps outside of that first
• 48:15
  that core four that we have, you know I think it's going to go to
• 48:19
  those guys. I think some of those younger D
• 48:21
  tackles are going to take that red shirt and maybe really
• 48:23
  across the defensive line if we look at it from that.
• 48:26
  Perspective I real quick going to answer a thing here from
• 48:30
  Thomas. No offensive lineman enrolled
• 48:34
  early. I don't think any of them had
• 48:37
  planned on it either. So again, everybody has their
• 48:41
  own path of how they get here. You know you want guys to get in
• 48:44
  early, but sometimes if it doesn't work out, it doesn't
• 48:46
  work out. I'm going to give you the name I
• 48:49
  think is definitely going to be a red shirt this year and that's
• 48:52
  going to be Gerard Johnson. And it's not so much that make
• 48:54
  that I don't think he can play. I think it's figuring out what
• 48:58
  his body's going to do over the next 365 days.
• 49:02
  Does does Gerard get here? Does he gain a lot of mass where
• 49:05
  he's going to play a three tech at like 285 to 90 or does he
• 49:10
  lean out and he's playing 64260 playing in, you know, is he
• 49:16
  going? To be a big in or is he going to
• 49:17
  be a undersized detector? Exactly.
• 49:21
  And and again, that was something, if you go back, you
• 49:23
  know, just over a month ago now that Coach Prowl was mentioning,
• 49:27
  he was mentioning like we've got to figure out what Girard you're
• 49:30
  going to turn into because you don't know what's going to
• 49:33
  happen. He's already 64250 or 2:45.
• 49:37
  He comes in, he puts on and gets a lean muscle and he's 265.
• 49:42
  You're going to stick him and in because you know that because of
• 49:45
  that height. And you did see he does have a
• 49:48
  little bend. Even being a bigger kid in high
• 49:50
  school, he has a little bend which usually guys to me you
• 49:54
  don't see that usually guys who are bigger playing and they
• 49:57
  literally just pushed the tackle back, right.
• 49:59
  They bull rush every time. You saw Gerard lean a little bit
• 50:03
  being a bigger kid. So that's the guy.
• 50:05
  I think they, I think it's more of them having to figure out
• 50:08
  what his body's going to do on the weight program, on the
• 50:11
  nutrition program. Yeah, 'cause he's he's got a
• 50:14
  body that like right now, you know that that's a that's a
• 50:18
  prototypical DN body and he hasn't even hit a a collegiate
• 50:23
  weight rear on the collegiate nutrition program or any of that
• 50:27
  stuff. So it'll be interesting to see
• 50:29
  if if they, if they decide they want to try to get him to, to
• 50:33
  put on some weight. And if they do, you know how how
• 50:35
  well that takes and you know where he ends up sliding in.
• 50:39
  But I definitely agree with you. I think that that's probably one
• 50:42
  that you could see red shirting for that very reason.
• 50:45
  No knock on his game or more so on.
• 50:47
  Where is he going to fit in And as as we're working that in you
• 50:52
  know let let's let's figure out what that position is.
• 50:54
  So we he's not having to strain too much from you know learning
• 51:00
  one position then have to slide to another position and things
• 51:03
  like that. Let's let's get him in there and
• 51:06
  and get him acclimated and can get him in in that that weight
• 51:09
  room and that nutrition program and see where the chips fall.
• 51:12
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• 51:13
  Brian, we were talking about and this is our coach buddy Robbie
• 51:16
  Compton who has put quite a few kids in college and where he
• 51:19
  coached. And just, you know, a lot of the
• 51:21
  kids that went early said the best part was getting the swing
• 51:23
  of college classes, football workouts and not the immediate
• 51:27
  pressure of in season games. Because think about guys who get
• 51:30
  there in August, it's immediate, like, hey listen, in a month
• 51:32
  it's going to be 66,000 people out there screaming.
• 51:36
  Are you ready for that? Along with going to class along
• 51:39
  with, you know, meetings and all this stuff, it's a great point
• 51:43
  that Robbie makes there. All righty.
• 51:46
  So there's our early enrollees. Obviously it's going to be great
• 51:52
  over the next three months. Ryan following it, you know
• 51:57
  between listening to Andy, David Cunningham, other people inside
• 52:02
  the program talking to a couple players about how this breaks
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  All right, Brian, before we bring up the spreadsheet here
• 53:45
  and go through our perfect schedule, I want to talk about
• 53:50
  the coaching stuff that happened.
• 53:51
  Obviously, last time we were here was the day Nick Saban
• 53:54
  retired, and since that boring time, Alabama made quick of it.
• 53:59
  It seemed like that they may have known about a month
• 54:02
  beforehand that Saban was going to retire.
• 54:06
  And that's all fine and dandy by the way.
• 54:07
  Hokies up 8 under 10 against BC, but they hire Caitlin De Boer.
• 54:14
  Caitlin de Boer, who just took Washington to the national title
• 54:18
  game, had a great season the season before.
• 54:22
  Had good seasons at Fresno State, won NAI.
• 54:26
  The guy's never lost wherever he's coached, but obviously
• 54:31
  there's been some residual effects of him coming because
• 54:34
  there's guys getting in the portal leaving guy saying the
• 54:37
  only reason I came here is because I wanted to play for
• 54:39
  Saban. What do you think about a the
• 54:43
  higher but then the fallout? You know, I think that I'm with
• 54:48
  you on the This was done beforehand.
• 54:51
  That's a quick turn around for a like you didn't hear anything
• 54:56
  about a search committee or any of that shit.
• 54:58
  Like it went from Saban stepping down and like four or five days
• 55:02
  later I we got our guy. You usually don't see that quick
• 55:06
  of a turn around for that level of program, right?
• 55:09
  So usually it's a little bit more of a process finding that
• 55:13
  replacement to, let's be honest, like a legend, arguably maybe
• 55:18
  the greatest college football coach of all time.
• 55:22
  You know, you can debate that if you want to, but he's certainly
• 55:25
  into the discussion. And then you got Caitlin De
• 55:29
  Boer, who like you said is 1 Everywhere he's been, has had
• 55:33
  great success everywhere he's been.
• 55:37
  That's a that's a big hire. I expected it it it wasn't as
• 55:43
  Alabama of a higher as I expected.
• 55:46
  So I'll say that it was definitely a little bit of of
• 55:50
  left field. It's a guy that you know hasn't
• 55:53
  really, you know, Alabama's a national program.
• 55:55
  They recruit everywhere, right? But they still primarily recruit
• 56:00
  in that six or seven hour window of their school, mainly because
• 56:03
  that's where all the fucking talent is, right?
• 56:06
  Georgia, Florida. There drops from Texas.
• 56:09
  That's where the fucking talent is, right?
• 56:11
  So, so it it helps that that that's where you recruit.
• 56:14
  So not having a ton of experience recruiting in that
• 56:18
  area would be the thing that would give me hesitancy is if if
• 56:23
  I was an Alabama fan. But otherwise it checks all the
• 56:26
  damn boxes. It does check all the damn boxes
• 56:28
  in and I think it was, I mean the guy's a winner.
• 56:33
  And I think also you get a feeling it was savings
• 56:38
  handpicked you. You have a feeling you have a
• 56:41
  feeling saving wasn't going to let anybody just walk in there.
• 56:43
  He's still going to be part of the program.
• 56:45
  You know, like most the head coaches who retire and I know
• 56:48
  everybody says you don't want to be the guy after the guy and
• 56:52
  we'll see how that takes place. He's already had for example
• 56:57
  that's the the the left tackle guy is the one.
• 56:59
  I don't completely understand because the online coach coming
• 57:03
  literally just coached the Joe Moore award-winning off the
• 57:07
  offensive line. He's going to Iowa.
• 57:10
  Well here's the thing about Iowa.
• 57:12
  That is not a good offense. I don't get that.
• 57:16
  I don't get that. So but we'll see how it all pans
• 57:19
  out. You know, there's obviously
• 57:20
  residual move Jet Fish, who led Arizona to a great season down
• 57:25
  at, you know, down out of Arizona.
• 57:29
  He takes the UW job. Not a shock there.
• 57:32
  He turned Arizona around unbelievably.
• 57:35
  I don't think anybody saw that happening.
• 57:37
  Yeah, nobody saw them. Like, I think people saw them
• 57:40
  getting kind of steadied out, levelled out.
• 57:44
  I don't think they saw them taking the big steps that they
• 57:46
  took this year. And win 910 games like they did
• 57:49
  this year. And then obviously, the last
• 57:51
  piece was Brent Brennan, who'd been at San Jose State, who had
• 57:55
  some success there. He takes over Arizona.
• 57:57
  So and I'm sure there's somebody with Sarah, San Jose State, but
• 58:00
  I'm looking at just the Power Five schools in this case.
• 58:04
  All righty, Brian, let's move on and let's do it here.
• 58:09
  Let's talk about the perfect schedule.
• 58:12
  Get that up. Now obviously, yes, we have been
• 58:16
  discussing this and we've been putting our stuff in and yes,
• 58:19
  some things like we will get to those because it's a hot topic.
• 58:23
  We're still going to tell you exactly what we think a perfect
• 58:27
  ACC schedule will look like, even though we know where two of
• 58:32
  those outside of the UVA game, which is always slated in the
• 58:35
  end of November, are going to fall here.
• 58:37
  So we're we're looking primarily at week five through week 12
• 58:40
  here. We know week 13 is going to be
• 58:43
  after Thanksgiving. We're going to beat the shit out
• 58:47
  of the Cavaliers again, so we know that's happening.
• 58:50
  We're looking at everything else after the non conference games.
• 58:54
  All righty. Well Brian, we just come off a
• 58:56
  game at Rutgers. Non con is done.
• 59:00
  Where's the first ACC match up for you?
• 59:04
  Well, I think we're going to take a little trip down to
• 59:07
  Durham and we're going to face the Blue Devils.
• 59:13
  I think this is a good kind of test but also a a decent warm up
• 59:18
  for the ACC schedule because I feel like Duke is probably going
• 59:21
  to take at least a small step back relative to where they've
• 59:25
  been the last couple years. But I think there's it's still
• 59:28
  going to be a solid solid opponent.
• 59:30
  Obviously you're playing at their place.
• 59:31
  So I think you know you factor in those two things it's a it's
• 59:35
  a good little good little combo there but I I I think it's a
• 59:38
  good way to kind of ease into the ACC schedule.
• 59:41
  It's not. It's not the the weakest team in
• 59:43
  the in the conference, but you're also not getting a
• 59:46
  heavyweight out the gate. No, not at all.
• 59:48
  And and believe it or not I'm I'm right with Brian on this one
• 59:51
  with having Duke. It's Lane Stadium S let's go
• 59:55
  ahead and mark that there's going to be about it's going to
• 59:57
  be about 7030. The Hokies to Blue Devils fans
• 1:00:02
  whenever we play them. I don't care when it is but I
• 1:00:05
  think it's to your point they're they're an OK team.
• 1:00:08
  They're going to give you a challenge.
• 1:00:09
  It's also. Having a road game early with
• 1:00:13
  not a heavy travel and we'll get into that in a little while here
• 1:00:17
  without a heavy travel. But getting into that routine
• 1:00:21
  and other people like, well, we've already have been to ODU
• 1:00:23
  at that point, would have been to Nashville, the opening game.
• 1:00:26
  Don't ever count opening games just because it's so much prep
• 1:00:29
  work going into those. It's so much prep work and it
• 1:00:32
  like even that schedule is usually funkier than your
• 1:00:35
  average road trip schedule is going to be.
• 1:00:37
  Exactly. So with this you, like you said,
• 1:00:39
  you kind of land out of the gate and you get a pro crowd.
• 1:00:43
  It's not a long drive and again, it gives you a little bit of a
• 1:00:48
  challenge. Tally and Shelton were good
• 1:00:50
  enough. Even though they aren't here
• 1:00:51
  tonight, they pop theirs. And believe it or not, week
• 1:00:54
  five, we were across the board. Like, let's just go to Duke Week
• 1:00:58
  5 and get this out of the way, All right?
• 1:01:01
  So Week 6. Brian Yeah, I went a little
• 1:01:05
  sideways with this one. I'm going to go ahead and put
• 1:01:08
  Georgia Tech on there. OK.
• 1:01:11
  I think it's kind of a a similar situation.
• 1:01:15
  It it's a little bit of a mid tier, probably a little bit
• 1:01:20
  lower on the mid tier than Duke, but still a team that's going to
• 1:01:25
  give you a challenge, a team that does some things a little
• 1:01:28
  differently than what Duke will do them.
• 1:01:30
  So you get a different look there as well.
• 1:01:33
  So I think that's a good way to kind of ease into the Meteor
• 1:01:35
  part of the schedule. All right for me.
• 1:01:38
  Get the big road trip out of the way.
• 1:01:40
  Get on the plane a lot of Palo Alto play at the Farm.
• 1:01:45
  Get that one done in early early October.
• 1:01:49
  This would be like the October 5th game, effectively Stanford
• 1:01:54
  not coming off a good season obviously in a big rebuild right
• 1:01:57
  now. Get it out of the way early
• 1:02:00
  where they maybe haven't found anything yet.
• 1:02:03
  Also, this game cams right up against the Notre Dame game.
• 1:02:07
  Probably could potentially overlook the Hokies, but my
• 1:02:11
  bigger one here is just I don't want to be flying to Stanford in
• 1:02:17
  the middle of November or even early November.
• 1:02:20
  I don't want to late game that late just because of the the
• 1:02:24
  travel and you know how much you know that can do.
• 1:02:29
  So let's go to Stanford Week 12. By the way, this one still both
• 1:02:34
  of these games are still on the table.
• 1:02:36
  This could happen. I hope they will.
• 1:02:38
  All right, Tally and Sheldon. What they got here.
• 1:02:41
  Tally followed me. Sheldon.
• 1:02:44
  Went a little sideways there with Miami.
• 1:02:46
  We'll, we'll, we'll trip down to Miami.
• 1:02:48
  Well, well, I think I look at Sheldon.
• 1:02:50
  I think Shelton's basically saying playing OK team and then
• 1:02:52
  play a team that's going to be perceived to have a better
• 1:02:55
  season, like go and get that test and then have a big road
• 1:02:58
  trip the next week. I wish they were here to discuss
• 1:03:01
  their things a little bit more, but they got things going on.
• 1:03:03
  But there you go, we got 2, agrees.
• 1:03:06
  And then one home game and one good and win one other away
• 1:03:10
  game. All right, Week 7.
• 1:03:14
  All right, Week 7, now we going to Palo Alto.
• 1:03:18
  Now we're going to Palo Alto still early October.
• 1:03:20
  We we got, we got our two like mid tier warmups.
• 1:03:24
  Let's take it out there. Let's beat up on a team that
• 1:03:27
  should be still at a rebuild, still early enough where you're
• 1:03:31
  probably getting them not quite fully settled.
• 1:03:34
  And you know, I think, you know, early to mid-october, I'm Palo
• 1:03:39
  Alto. That's probably not a bad place
• 1:03:41
  for a road trip if you're going to take that one big trip as a
• 1:03:43
  Hokie fan every year, so. I'll I'll the Santa that that
• 1:03:48
  area yeah, mid-october is probably 60s.
• 1:03:52
  You know, if you're a wine drinker, go out to Napa.
• 1:03:55
  Maybe the Niners are playing the, you know, the Sunday game
• 1:03:58
  and I could, you know, Max out a credit card and sleep on the
• 1:04:02
  couch for about 6 months. I.
• 1:04:06
  That sounds fun. You.
• 1:04:07
  Know maybe. All righty, but for me with this
• 1:04:10
  one, we're six games in open bye week.
• 1:04:17
  Take a bye. For a bye week, we need to buy.
• 1:04:19
  Take a break. Need to be take a break.
• 1:04:22
  You just come off of going 6 and O you got some meaty, meaty on
• 1:04:28
  the back end, some good teams, so could be the bye week this
• 1:04:32
  week. All right, all right.
• 1:04:35
  I feel that. But Tally had Georgia Tech
• 1:04:38
  coming in right there. Tally like layering it up like
• 1:04:42
  play OK, play bad, play another OK team.
• 1:04:45
  Yeah, and he's got, he got the two Rd. trips he had to get,
• 1:04:48
  throw a home one in there. Got a home game in there?
• 1:04:51
  I ain't home yet. Oh, look at you and Sheldon the
• 1:04:54
  grin. You know what?
• 1:04:59
  Great minds, man. Great minds.
• 1:05:00
  Great minds. Great minds.
• 1:05:01
  All righty, Week 8. What say you say glow?
• 1:05:06
  We taking a break in week 8, taking a break in week 8.
• 1:05:09
  All right, seven games ideally. Ideally we would be taking a
• 1:05:14
  break in week 8 ideally. That, that still might be a
• 1:05:18
  potential, right? Oh, no, no.
• 1:05:21
  Yeah. Yeah, that's right.
• 1:05:22
  Boston College. Yeah.
• 1:05:23
  OK. So Yep, it's mid-october.
• 1:05:29
  Two teams likely with really good records sitting there.
• 1:05:33
  It's literally would be October 19th if this would have
• 1:05:36
  happened. I mean that that would be one of
• 1:05:42
  those games, right? One of those games, you go down
• 1:05:45
  for one of those games, maybe game day shows up for Clemson.
• 1:05:50
  And I think at this point in the season, I think the confidence
• 1:05:53
  is built. I think they're not the Clemson
• 1:05:56
  of what they were 6-7 years ago. They're still really good
• 1:06:00
  defensively. They still have got some game
• 1:06:02
  Breakers on offense. It still would be a challenge in
• 1:06:05
  that game. Clemson, Clemson.
• 1:06:06
  This pad, like the past year, probably what they're looking at
• 1:06:09
  next year is about where they were in like 2011, right?
• 1:06:12
  So yeah, good. A really good, a really good
• 1:06:15
  team. Some flaws.
• 1:06:18
  Some flaws, Well, the biggest flaws?
• 1:06:20
  The person wearing the headset? All righty, where's Tally and
• 1:06:25
  Sheldon on Week 8? Tally's with me.
• 1:06:28
  We got a bye week, baby. Bye week and show all y'all.
• 1:06:32
  Look at all y'all. Well, guess what?
• 1:06:34
  I still might be right about the bye week.
• 1:06:35
  Y'all wrong. You're probably are right about
• 1:06:38
  the bye week. If we're If we're looking at
• 1:06:41
  that Thursday night game 100. Percent 100%.
• 1:06:45
  So week nine, I'm I'm going Clemson because you got to get
• 1:06:48
  Clemson coming off the bye. I feel like that's the best
• 1:06:50
  place for him. If we were building this
• 1:06:52
  schedule just for the Hokies, which is what we're doing here.
• 1:06:55
  I want Clemson off a by. I want the opponent that I have
• 1:06:59
  to prepare for the most that I've got at home.
• 1:07:02
  Let's go ahead and take care of business coming off the by.
• 1:07:05
  100%. And honestly, I want that on a
• 1:07:07
  Thursday night. Yeah, you want that on a
• 1:07:10
  Thursday? OK, makes sense.
• 1:07:13
  But you know that that is where you say it's perfect because you
• 1:07:16
  know the power brokers at ESPN are not going to let Clemson,
• 1:07:19
  Virginia Tech, go to a Thursday night game.
• 1:07:22
  That thing. I know they're not, but that's
• 1:07:23
  where I want it. That's where.
• 1:07:25
  You want it? All right, let's get to me.
• 1:07:28
  All right. You just came off Clemson.
• 1:07:30
  I don't want someone that could possibly be overlooked.
• 1:07:33
  I think Haynes King and what Georgia Tech did last year, you
• 1:07:38
  would not take them lightly. Like, you know, hey, this guy
• 1:07:41
  had a lot of touchdowns last year.
• 1:07:42
  They can score. Look how they played Georgia.
• 1:07:45
  They hung with them defensively for a while.
• 1:07:47
  I want to. Coming off a Clemson game, you
• 1:07:49
  don't want someone you can overlook whether you win or lose
• 1:07:53
  that game. Yeah, at worst, they're going to
• 1:07:54
  be a tough out, you know. You know what you're getting?
• 1:07:56
  As soon as you wake up Sunday morning, you know, hey listen,
• 1:07:58
  we got to lock in. They have some playmakers, they
• 1:08:01
  they can win this game. But back-to-back home games
• 1:08:03
  after back-to-back Rd. trips for me as well.
• 1:08:06
  All right, good deal. All right, Tally, Tally's with
• 1:08:10
  me on Clemson coming off that, and so is Shell.
• 1:08:14
  No, no, no release. Keeping it consistent.
• 1:08:17
  Everybody here wants to play Clemson off that by.
• 1:08:19
  Off the bow Week, it is an absolute.
• 1:08:23
  It's a must. It's a must.
• 1:08:25
  All right, Week 10. I've got Syracuse.
• 1:08:30
  We got a We got a big win after Clemson.
• 1:08:32
  Hopefully we're taking it. You're not going to overlook
• 1:08:35
  Syracuse in the Artist Formerly known as the Carrier Dome.
• 1:08:40
  It's still the Carrier Dome. They can rename it all they
• 1:08:42
  want. It's still a fun.
• 1:08:45
  Game JMA Wireless now. Nobody.
• 1:08:47
  That is what Ajma Wireless. Yeah, so yeah.
• 1:08:51
  I mean, it's still Heinz Field too, so don't don't get it
• 1:08:53
  twisted. And see, I'm with you on this.
• 1:08:56
  But this one, I know you did it right after Clemson and I'm
• 1:09:00
  doing it after Georgia Tech here.
• 1:09:01
  Go ahead and throw that up. There.
• 1:09:02
  Put that ugly oranges. This was the toughest 1 and I
• 1:09:07
  always do like it. Literally, I was like, we'll do
• 1:09:09
  it here. I don't like it.
• 1:09:10
  Well, maybe do it. I don't like it early.
• 1:09:14
  It's that you can't put a trip to the Carrier Dome anywhere and
• 1:09:17
  feel good about it. You can, you can.
• 1:09:19
  The only way I put it in, it's like you, you you, you put it
• 1:09:23
  after two hard games, whether you again you win or lose those
• 1:09:27
  games. And again, I think having guys
• 1:09:30
  who played here and played in that environment 20-30 years
• 1:09:34
  ago, listen, yeah, they might not be a good team, but that
• 1:09:38
  place is weird. Weird shit happens up there, so
• 1:09:41
  don't forget it. All right, I heard they're
• 1:09:44
  renovating it and they might not have the visitor locker room in
• 1:09:46
  the top of the stands anymore. Well.
• 1:09:49
  Let's hope they fix that. Let's hope they fix it.
• 1:09:52
  All righty. Tally says sexy.
• 1:09:58
  We got a We got a Boston College in there.
• 1:10:00
  OK, well, I mean Shelton basic. Well, look at Shelton.
• 1:10:04
  He went Rd. Rd.
• 1:10:05
  Rd. Yep.
• 1:10:06
  So y'all just got to you only have one more Rd. game to do
• 1:10:09
  here, so we got to figure it out, yeah?
• 1:10:11
  He went Rd. Rd.
• 1:10:12
  Rd. Then we got home Home.
• 1:10:14
  So. Yeah, all righty.
• 1:10:16
  Where are you? Week 11, right?
• 1:10:18
  And now we're eliminating. It's like there's only a few
• 1:10:20
  teams left. Y'all can figure out what these
• 1:10:21
  last few are. Boston College.
• 1:10:24
  Yeah, and we're. We're going, we're going to kick
• 1:10:26
  some eagle ass at Lane Stadium in Week 11 week. 11 It's going
• 1:10:30
  to be the early part of November.
• 1:10:31
  I'm with you. I won't BC here.
• 1:10:36
  No apparent reason. I think it's more or less
• 1:10:38
  because we had to put Syracuse somewhere because I almost put
• 1:10:41
  BC after GT. But then it's like no, I don't
• 1:10:44
  want like 3. I don't want like a really good
• 1:10:46
  team and then two OK teams with you know very good, like solid
• 1:10:52
  good to good quarterbacks and then go to Syracuse.
• 1:10:56
  So yeah, I'm with BC here about tally, tally, tally at BCBC.
• 1:11:02
  And I mean really, you know, Sheldon, just switch BC and
• 1:11:05
  Syracuse here. Yeah, that's it.
• 1:11:07
  All right. Week. 12 By process of
• 1:11:10
  elimination, you know I got. Miami.
• 1:11:14
  Miami. Yep, All right.
• 1:11:16
  I'm Miami. Tally's Miami.
• 1:11:19
  Pop Sheldon finally gets Georgia Tech in there.
• 1:11:23
  Georgia Tech, Well, that would make it a home and home finish,
• 1:11:26
  so that would be an upside to taking Georgia Tech there.
• 1:11:30
  I just want Miami later in the year.
• 1:11:33
  I want my and there's a reason I want Miami later in the year.
• 1:11:37
  Usually by this point, Miami has shown all their flaws and you
• 1:11:40
  can figure out a way to get under their skin and they will
• 1:11:42
  do something stupid and you will beat them early in the season.
• 1:11:46
  Sometimes they're still locked in, by the way.
• 1:11:49
  Leads down to two. Don't talk about it, man.
• 1:11:55
  Just woo side, it's right here. Woo side.
• 1:11:58
  All righty. So there is sort of our perfect
• 1:12:03
  schedule which you know has effectively as of today we can't
• 1:12:11
  have the perfect schedules. Anymore Anybody listed out there
• 1:12:14
  who got the best perfect schedule here?
• 1:12:16
  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Put in the comments, put in the
• 1:12:19
  chat. Throw a comment out there.
• 1:12:20
  Tell me who got the first the best perfect schedule here.
• 1:12:22
  Schedule. Do y'all like best.
• 1:12:25
  Just remember, Duke's Duke, Stanford, Syracuse and Miami are
• 1:12:30
  away. All right, so I know we didn't
• 1:12:34
  get it. I should have sent you the
• 1:12:36
  graphic that they pulled out today.
• 1:12:38
  But obviously, if you haven't been paying attention, some of
• 1:12:42
  the prime time week Gay games, especially the Thursday and
• 1:12:45
  Friday nights games that ACC teams will be involved in, were
• 1:12:50
  announced. And the first one is week five.
• 1:12:53
  We have to go to Miami, all right.
• 1:12:59
  If we don't have them late, I want them first.
• 1:13:01
  So that's the only upside that I get here.
• 1:13:05
  But, but here's what I don't like.
• 1:13:07
  A it's going to be a short week. B, we are playing physical ass
• 1:13:12
  Rutgers. Y'all, everybody who that knows
• 1:13:15
  Greg Schiano that has watched him, that is going to be a
• 1:13:17
  physical football game. It was a physical football game
• 1:13:19
  in Piscataway last year. It was.
• 1:13:22
  It's a lot of hard hitting. So we are going to say that
• 1:13:26
  we're going to play that game. We're going to have a short
• 1:13:28
  week. It's a Miami travel day, so you
• 1:13:31
  know it takes a significantly longer time.
• 1:13:34
  That's about a seven or eight hour flight down there, give or
• 1:13:38
  take. So basically it really screws up
• 1:13:43
  prepping for that game. That's why I do not like that
• 1:13:47
  there at all. I get it.
• 1:13:53
  I get it. But you know if, if, if, I've
• 1:13:58
  got to not have them at the end sometime in November, either
• 1:14:02
  kind of that week 11, week 12 range, I want them early.
• 1:14:06
  I want them. I want to make a statement that
• 1:14:09
  we beat Miami now ACC, put the ACC on notice a little bit.
• 1:14:15
  Now that would be the big piece. If you go down there and you
• 1:14:18
  stomp them, it's a it's a statement across the college
• 1:14:22
  football landscape, right? Right.
• 1:14:26
  Of course you go. Because Robbie said yours.
• 1:14:29
  He likes the later, he likes the later season one.
• 1:14:33
  So on that throw that other one up there, I want, I just want to
• 1:14:36
  address it, the one right below that.
• 1:14:39
  Brian, you got your finger on the button.
• 1:14:41
  First of all, the incoming QB portal transfers give us about
• 1:14:47
  four months because you've got to see how things go through
• 1:14:51
  spring. There have been times where a
• 1:14:52
  portal quarterback comes and he's going to be the starter and
• 1:14:54
  the next thing you know they're benched and they're leaving.
• 1:14:58
  It's so early in that process and obviously, Brian, we will be
• 1:15:02
  taking looks at whoever we play throughout the year.
• 1:15:07
  You know, every week we know the enemy.
• 1:15:08
  We discuss all the players and potentially what they're doing.
• 1:15:13
  Yeah, I mean, I think you got to look at, you know some, some of
• 1:15:15
  those guys especially. I think Haynes King is going to
• 1:15:17
  be the guy that you keep an eye on.
• 1:15:18
  I feel like he's going second year though.
• 1:15:21
  I guess you still consider Portal though, right?
• 1:15:23
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's going to be
• 1:15:31
  interesting because we, because they weren't on our schedule
• 1:15:33
  this year. So I still consider him a first
• 1:15:35
  time and he's going to be the de facto starter there.
• 1:15:38
  So you you consider him, it's going to be interesting to see
• 1:15:42
  what what some of those other incoming guys will do this year,
• 1:15:47
  but not not not playing Georgia Tech last year really for the
• 1:15:51
  first time in a very long time. You know, we we didn't get to
• 1:15:54
  see what King looked like up close and personal.
• 1:15:57
  Yeah. And then I mean you've got like,
• 1:15:58
  you know, you think about down in Miami, you've got like a Cam
• 1:16:00
  Ward, You fully expect him to win that job and things like
• 1:16:05
  that. But again, I want to, I want to
• 1:16:07
  hear stories out of spring practice.
• 1:16:08
  I want to see spring games, I want to see highlights, I want
• 1:16:11
  to see how they're gelling before we get into that.
• 1:16:13
  All right, Brian, let's go to the second game that we
• 1:16:16
  absolutely are guaranteed to know and that is going to be
• 1:16:19
  October 17th BC on a Thursday night.
• 1:16:27
  I love a Thursday night. I don't like that it's BC Yep,
• 1:16:32
  There's a couple reasons. Number one, I think we're going
• 1:16:34
  to beat B CS Ass anyway, But #2 is that the times we didn't.
• 1:16:39
  I feel like it was always like a Thursday night game.
• 1:16:42
  And that's the way it always felt it did.
• 1:16:45
  It always felt like, I mean don't don't talk about if you
• 1:16:49
  ever walk into Main Street pharmacy, do not mention 2007 to
• 1:16:53
  Jeremy. He will probably immediately
• 1:16:55
  kick you out of the pharmacy and not allowed back in but it it
• 1:17:01
  almost sets up and. Then he will burn a effigy of
• 1:17:04
  Matt Ryan. Yes, he will, and that's OK.
• 1:17:06
  That's perfectly fine. But seeing where that game is on
• 1:17:09
  the 17th, it basically is saying the week before, basically week
• 1:17:15
  seven will be the bad week. So Curtis got one right?
• 1:17:19
  I got one right. More than likely.
• 1:17:20
  Right. More than likely.
• 1:17:21
  I hope I get the Stanford one right because I think we all
• 1:17:26
  kind of looked and said, listen, we travel across country, you
• 1:17:29
  want that bad week to come afterwards regardless.
• 1:17:32
  So Curtis is saying go ahead and get them long trips out of the
• 1:17:35
  way 1st and then get you by and then figure the rest of it out.
• 1:17:39
  And then come play BC and then hopefully after BC Who do we
• 1:17:42
  hope so next week? Clemson.
• 1:17:45
  Clemson. And that would be, let's see,
• 1:17:48
  26. So we were, y'all are actually
• 1:17:51
  right on top of it with that. So it'll be interesting.
• 1:17:56
  The full schedule comes out tomorrow, I think it's 5:30 on
• 1:18:02
  ACC Network. Obviously we'll be back in a
• 1:18:04
  couple weeks and we'll, we're going to obviously break that
• 1:18:07
  thing down. I'm sure we'll.
• 1:18:08
  Be and more than likely have a full boat.
• 1:18:13
  Hopefully I want my boys back. I want everybody in here,
• 1:18:18
  Hokies, up five with under three to the go.
• 1:18:22
  One of the white kids with the headband just took a jump shot.
• 1:18:26
  He's not the one that looks like he plays at the Y.
• 1:18:28
  He actually looks physically. Like you said, half their team
• 1:18:30
  look like they play at the Yi. Didn't say that I was, so I was
• 1:18:34
  elsewhere. Definitely looks like he plays
• 1:18:37
  at the Y12, doesn't because 12's like 6845, looks like he's like
• 1:18:43
  6-2. So, yeah, all right, Anything
• 1:18:46
  breaking here, Brian, as we finish this program and as we
• 1:18:50
  finish this game? I think we're good, man.
• 1:18:54
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• 1:18:56
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