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S7, Ep 27: Master Class Angling: The Art of Fishing Exotic Species with Drew Price · The Articulate Fly

• 0:00
  Hey,
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  folks,
• 0:04
  it's
• 0:04
  Marvin
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  Cash,
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  the
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  host
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  of
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  the
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  Articulate
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  Fly.
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  On
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  this
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  episode,
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  we're
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  joined
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  by
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  Drew
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  Price,
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  the
• 0:10
  man
• 0:11
  behind
• 0:11
  Masterclass
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  Angling.
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  Drew
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  shares
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  his
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  passion
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  for
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  chasing
• 0:14
  exotic
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  species
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  on
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  the
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  fly
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  on
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  his
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  home
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  waters
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  of
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  Lake
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  Champlain.
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  I
• 0:18
  think
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  you're
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  really
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  going
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  to
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  enjoy
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  this
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  one,
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  but
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  before
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  we
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  get
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  to
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  the
• 0:22
  interview,
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  just
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  a
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  couple
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  of
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  housekeeping
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  items.
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  you
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  like
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  please
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  tell
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  and
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  a
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  in
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  the
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  podcatcher
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  of
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  your
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  choice.
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  It
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  really
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  helps
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  us
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  out.
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  And
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  we
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  recently
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  launched
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  a
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  new
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  podcast
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  called
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  the
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  Butcher
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  Shop
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  where
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  the
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  meat
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  meets
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  the
• 0:38
  water.
• 0:39
  Each
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  episode
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  focuses
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  on
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  a
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  single
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  pattern
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  from
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  our
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  Predator
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  Fly
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  angler
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  tire.
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  We
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  take
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  a
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  deep
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  dive
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  into
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  the
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  genesis
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  of
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  the
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  pattern,
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  its
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  design,
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  and
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  how
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  to
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  fish
• 0:48
  it.
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  Like
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  the
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  inventor.
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  We
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  recently
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  dropped
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  our
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  interview
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  with
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  Blaine
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  Chocolate,
• 0:53
  taking
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  a
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  deep
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  dive
• 0:54
  into
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  the
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  T
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  bone.
• 0:55
  And
• 0:55
  our
• 0:55
  interviews
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  with
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  Tommy
• 0:56
  lynch
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  and
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  Russ
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  Madden
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  make
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  sure
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  you
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  don't
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  miss
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  will
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  only
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  be
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  distributing
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  episodes
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  on
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  the
• 1:05
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  Fly
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  for
• 1:06
  a
• 1:07
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• 1:07
  time.
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  finally,
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  not
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  at
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  your
• 1:16
  local
• 1:17
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  Get
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  away
• 1:19
  from
• 1:19
  the
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  crowds
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• 1:31
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• 1:32
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• 1:32
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• 1:33
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• 1:33
  overlook.
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  Up
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  today.
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  now,
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  on
• 1:49
  to
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  our
• 1:49
  interview.
• 1:51
  Well,
• 1:51
  Drew,
• 1:52
  welcome
• 1:52
  to
• 1:52
  the
• 1:52
  Articulate
• 1:53
  Fly.
• 1:55
  Thank
• 1:55
  you
• 1:55
  for
• 1:55
  having
• 1:56
  me.
• 1:56
  Yeah,
• 1:56
  looking
• 1:57
  forward
• 1:57
  to
• 1:57
  it.
• 1:57
  And
• 1:57
  we
• 1:57
  have
• 1:57
  a
• 1:58
  tradition
• 1:58
  on
• 1:58
  the
• 1:58
  Articulate
• 1:59
  Fly.
• 1:59
  We
• 1:59
  like
• 1:59
  to
• 1:59
  ask
• 2:00
  all
• 2:00
  of
• 2:00
  our
• 2:00
  guests
• 2:00
  to
• 2:00
  share
• 2:01
  their
• 2:01
  earliest
• 2:02
  fishing
• 2:02
  memory.
• 2:04
  Well,
• 2:05
  I
• 2:05
  can
• 2:05
  go
• 2:05
  back
• 2:05
  to,
• 2:06
  I
• 2:06
  believe
• 2:06
  I
• 2:06
  was
• 2:07
  7
• 2:07
  years
• 2:07
  old
• 2:08
  fishing
• 2:08
  with
• 2:08
  my
• 2:08
  grandfather.
• 2:09
  We
• 2:10
  were
• 2:10
  on
• 2:10
  a
• 2:11
  little
• 2:11
  tiny
• 2:11
  trout
• 2:12
  stream
• 2:12
  in
• 2:12
  Constable,
• 2:13
  New
• 2:13
  York,
• 2:14
  and
• 2:14
  he
• 2:15
  was.
• 2:16
  He
• 2:16
  was
• 2:16
  walking
• 2:17
  behind
• 2:17
  me
• 2:17
  and
• 2:18
  I
• 2:18
  had
• 2:18
  the
• 2:18
  rod
• 2:18
  over
• 2:19
  my
• 2:19
  shoulder
• 2:19
  and,
• 2:20
  and
• 2:21
  I
• 2:21
  stopped
• 2:22
  and
• 2:22
  he
• 2:22
  didn't.
• 2:23
  And
• 2:23
  next
• 2:24
  thing
• 2:24
  I
• 2:24
  know
• 2:24
  is
• 2:25
  the.
• 2:26
  The
• 2:26
  worm
• 2:26
  hook
• 2:26
  is.
• 2:27
  Is
• 2:27
  hooked
• 2:28
  into
• 2:28
  his
• 2:28
  shirt
• 2:29
  pocket
• 2:29
  and
• 2:30
  he
• 2:30
  looked
• 2:30
  at
• 2:30
  me
• 2:30
  and
• 2:30
  he
• 2:31
  said,
• 2:31
  well,
• 2:31
  you
• 2:31
  just
• 2:32
  caught
• 2:32
  yourself
• 2:32
  175
• 2:33
  pound
• 2:34
  sucker.
• 2:36
  That
• 2:36
  was
• 2:37
  my.
• 2:37
  That's
• 2:37
  my
• 2:37
  earliest
• 2:38
  fishing
• 2:38
  memory.
• 2:40
  We
• 2:41
  didn't.
• 2:41
  We
• 2:41
  didn't
• 2:41
  catch
• 2:42
  many
• 2:42
  trout.
• 2:43
  I've
• 2:43
  subsequently
• 2:44
  gotten
• 2:44
  Fish
• 2:45
  that,
• 2:45
  that
• 2:45
  the
• 2:45
  stream
• 2:46
  a
• 2:46
  fair
• 2:47
  amount
• 2:47
  and
• 2:47
  it's
• 2:47
  a
• 2:48
  fun
• 2:48
  little
• 2:48
  stream.
• 2:49
  Mostly
• 2:50
  stock
• 2:50
  browns,
• 2:51
  but
• 2:52
  it
• 2:53
  was
• 2:53
  a,
• 2:53
  it
• 2:53
  was
• 2:54
  a
• 2:54
  great
• 2:54
  memory
• 2:54
  of
• 2:54
  my
• 2:54
  grandfather.
• 2:56
  Very,
• 2:56
  very
• 2:57
  neat.
• 2:57
  And
• 2:57
  so
• 2:57
  when
• 2:57
  did
• 2:57
  you
• 2:57
  come
• 2:58
  to
• 2:58
  the
• 2:58
  dark
• 2:58
  side
• 2:58
  of
• 2:58
  fly
• 2:59
  fishing?
• 3:00
  When
• 3:01
  I
• 3:01
  was
• 3:01
  in
• 3:01
  college
• 3:02
  at
• 3:02
  SUNY
• 3:02
  Plattsburgh,
• 3:03
  I
• 3:04
  picked
• 3:04
  up
• 3:04
  fly
• 3:05
  fishing
• 3:05
  in,
• 3:06
  I
• 3:06
  guess
• 3:06
  it
• 3:07
  was
• 3:07
  1993,
• 3:08
  the
• 3:08
  first
• 3:08
  time
• 3:09
  I
• 3:09
  graduated
• 3:09
  from,
• 3:10
  from
• 3:10
  college
• 3:10
  there.
• 3:10
  I
• 3:11
  graduated
• 3:12
  an
• 3:12
  art
• 3:12
  degree
• 3:14
  and
• 3:14
  I
• 3:14
  asked
• 3:14
  my
• 3:15
  parents
• 3:15
  for
• 3:15
  a
• 3:15
  fly
• 3:16
  rod
• 3:17
  grad
• 3:17
  in
• 3:17
  December
• 3:18
  and
• 3:18
  I
• 3:18
  went
• 3:18
  out
• 3:18
  and
• 3:19
  beat
• 3:19
  the
• 3:19
  snow
• 3:20
  quite
• 3:20
  a
• 3:20
  bit
• 3:20
  with
• 3:20
  it
• 3:21
  and
• 3:21
  taught
• 3:21
  myself
• 3:22
  how
• 3:22
  to
• 3:22
  cast.
• 3:23
  And
• 3:23
  within,
• 3:24
  within
• 3:26
  a
• 3:26
  month
• 3:27
  of
• 3:27
  having
• 3:27
  that,
• 3:27
  I
• 3:28
  bought
• 3:28
  a
• 3:28
  fly
• 3:28
  tying
• 3:29
  kit
• 3:29
  and
• 3:30
  the
• 3:30
  two
• 3:30
  kind
• 3:30
  of
• 3:30
  went
• 3:31
  hand
• 3:31
  in
• 3:31
  hand.
• 3:32
  And
• 3:33
  that
• 3:33
  next
• 3:34
  spring,
• 3:35
  very
• 3:35
  first
• 3:35
  fish
• 3:36
  I
• 3:36
  got
• 3:36
  on
• 3:36
  the
• 3:36
  fly
• 3:37
  was
• 3:37
  a,
• 3:37
  was
• 3:38
  a
• 3:38
  nice
• 3:38
  smallmouth
• 3:39
  bass
• 3:39
  out
• 3:39
  of
• 3:39
  the
• 3:40
  Saranac
• 3:40
  river,
• 3:41
  probably
• 3:42
  about
• 3:42
  four,
• 3:42
  four
• 3:42
  and
• 3:42
  a
• 3:42
  half
• 3:43
  pounds.
• 3:44
  And
• 3:46
  definitely
• 3:46
  developed
• 3:47
  a
• 3:47
  love
• 3:47
  of
• 3:47
  smallmouth
• 3:48
  at
• 3:48
  that,
• 3:49
  at
• 3:49
  that
• 3:49
  moment.
• 3:51
  Very,
• 3:52
  very
• 3:52
  neat.
• 3:52
  And
• 3:52
  so
• 3:52
  obviously
• 3:53
  you've
• 3:53
  been
• 3:53
  in
• 3:53
  the
• 3:53
  game
• 3:54
  for
• 3:54
  a
• 3:54
  long
• 3:54
  time.
• 3:54
  You
• 3:55
  know,
• 3:55
  who
• 3:55
  are
• 3:55
  some
• 3:55
  of
• 3:55
  the
• 3:55
  folks
• 3:55
  that
• 3:56
  have
• 3:56
  mentored
• 3:56
  you
• 3:56
  on
• 3:56
  your
• 3:57
  fly
• 3:57
  fishing
• 3:57
  journey
• 3:57
  and
• 3:58
  what
• 3:58
  have
• 3:58
  they
• 3:58
  taught
• 3:58
  you?
• 4:00
  Well,
• 4:00
  you
• 4:00
  know,
• 4:01
  it's,
• 4:01
  it's
• 4:01
  interesting.
• 4:02
  So
• 4:03
  initially
• 4:04
  I
• 4:05
  really,
• 4:05
  you
• 4:05
  know,
• 4:05
  I
• 4:06
  had
• 4:06
  a
• 4:06
  couple
• 4:06
  of
• 4:06
  buddies
• 4:07
  in
• 4:07
  college
• 4:08
  that,
• 4:08
  that
• 4:09
  I
• 4:09
  fly,
• 4:10
  you
• 4:10
  know,
• 4:10
  that
• 4:11
  I
• 4:11
  fly
• 4:11
  fish
• 4:11
  with
• 4:12
  a
• 4:12
  little
• 4:12
  bit.
• 4:14
  But
• 4:14
  most
• 4:14
  of
• 4:14
  it,
• 4:15
  most
• 4:15
  of
• 4:15
  my
• 4:16
  early
• 4:16
  fly
• 4:16
  fishing
• 4:17
  experience
• 4:17
  was,
• 4:18
  was
• 4:18
  entirely
• 4:19
  on
• 4:19
  my
• 4:19
  own.
• 4:21
  There
• 4:22
  weren't
• 4:22
  a
• 4:22
  lot
• 4:22
  of
• 4:22
  people
• 4:23
  that
• 4:23
  I
• 4:24
  knew
• 4:24
  that,
• 4:25
  that
• 4:26
  really
• 4:26
  fly
• 4:26
  fish
• 4:27
  seriously
• 4:28
  and,
• 4:29
  and
• 4:29
  were
• 4:29
  interested
• 4:30
  in
• 4:30
  doing
• 4:30
  the
• 4:30
  kind
• 4:30
  of
• 4:31
  fly
• 4:31
  fishing
• 4:31
  that
• 4:31
  I
• 4:32
  wanted
• 4:32
  to
• 4:32
  do.
• 4:33
  I've
• 4:34
  always
• 4:34
  had
• 4:35
  kind
• 4:35
  of
• 4:35
  like,
• 4:37
  like
• 4:37
  what
• 4:38
  can
• 4:38
  I
• 4:38
  catch
• 4:38
  next?
• 4:39
  Attitude
• 4:41
  and
• 4:43
  so
• 4:43
  I
• 4:44
  would,
• 4:45
  I
• 4:46
  would
• 4:46
  get
• 4:46
  out
• 4:46
  and
• 4:46
  chase
• 4:47
  whatever
• 4:47
  I
• 4:47
  could
• 4:48
  find.
• 4:49
  You
• 4:50
  know,
• 4:51
  I,
• 4:52
  when
• 4:52
  I
• 4:52
  first
• 4:52
  started
• 4:53
  fly
• 4:53
  fishing,
• 4:54
  I
• 4:54
  really
• 4:54
  wanted
• 4:54
  to
• 4:55
  get
• 4:55
  into
• 4:55
  pike,
• 4:55
  you
• 4:55
  know,
• 4:56
  catch
• 4:56
  pike
• 4:57
  on
• 4:57
  a
• 4:57
  fly,
• 4:57
  I
• 4:58
  wanted
• 4:58
  to
• 4:58
  get
• 4:59
  musky
• 5:00
  on
• 5:00
  a
• 5:00
  fly.
• 5:01
  You
• 5:01
  know,
• 5:01
  all
• 5:01
  these
• 5:02
  warm
• 5:02
  water
• 5:02
  species
• 5:03
  that,
• 5:03
  that,
• 5:04
  you
• 5:04
  know,
• 5:04
  in
• 5:04
  the,
• 5:05
  in
• 5:05
  the
• 5:05
  early
• 5:05
  90s,
• 5:06
  nobody
• 5:06
  was
• 5:07
  really
• 5:07
  talking
• 5:07
  about,
• 5:08
  nobody
• 5:08
  was
• 5:08
  really
• 5:09
  chasing
• 5:10
  and,
• 5:10
  but
• 5:11
  that
• 5:11
  was
• 5:11
  what
• 5:11
  I
• 5:11
  wanted
• 5:12
  to
• 5:12
  do,
• 5:12
  you
• 5:12
  know,
• 5:13
  like
• 5:13
  my
• 5:13
  first
• 5:14
  muskie
• 5:14
  on
• 5:14
  the
• 5:14
  fly
• 5:14
  was
• 5:15
  95,
• 5:15
  right?
• 5:16
  And
• 5:16
  there
• 5:16
  was,
• 5:17
  there
• 5:17
  was
• 5:17
  nobody
• 5:18
  talking
• 5:18
  about
• 5:18
  muskies.
• 5:19
  There
• 5:19
  was
• 5:19
  nobody
• 5:20
  in
• 5:20
  my
• 5:20
  area
• 5:21
  in
• 5:21
  northern
• 5:21
  New
• 5:22
  York
• 5:22
  doing
• 5:22
  it.
• 5:23
  So
• 5:24
  I
• 5:24
  didn't
• 5:24
  really
• 5:25
  have
• 5:25
  any
• 5:25
  mentors
• 5:25
  and
• 5:26
  in
• 5:26
  a
• 5:26
  lot
• 5:26
  of
• 5:26
  ways
• 5:26
  I
• 5:26
  was
• 5:27
  kind
• 5:27
  of
• 5:27
  self
• 5:27
  taught.
• 5:29
  That
• 5:29
  has
• 5:29
  changed
• 5:30
  in
• 5:31
  the
• 5:31
  past
• 5:31
  10
• 5:31
  years
• 5:32
  or
• 5:32
  so
• 5:32
  where
• 5:32
  I've
• 5:33
  really
• 5:34
  kind
• 5:34
  of
• 5:34
  come
• 5:35
  into
• 5:36
  the
• 5:36
  industry
• 5:37
  more.
• 5:38
  And
• 5:39
  you
• 5:39
  know,
• 5:39
  I,
• 5:39
  the
• 5:40
  people
• 5:40
  I
• 5:40
  really
• 5:41
  look
• 5:41
  up
• 5:41
  to
• 5:41
  and,
• 5:41
  and
• 5:42
  I'll
• 5:42
  I'll
• 5:42
  hit
• 5:42
  up
• 5:43
  for
• 5:43
  advice.
• 5:43
  Are,
• 5:44
  are
• 5:45
  Tom
• 5:45
  Rosenbauer
• 5:47
  and,
• 5:47
  and
• 5:48
  Blaine
• 5:48
  Chocolate.
• 5:49
  Are,
• 5:49
  are
• 5:49
  two
• 5:50
  people
• 5:50
  that,
• 5:50
  you
• 5:50
  know,
• 5:51
  who
• 5:51
  I
• 5:51
  have
• 5:52
  a
• 5:52
  lot
• 5:52
  of
• 5:52
  respect
• 5:53
  for
• 5:53
  and
• 5:55
  are
• 5:55
  willing
• 5:56
  to
• 5:56
  answer
• 5:57
  questions
• 5:57
  for
• 5:58
  me
• 5:58
  and,
• 6:01
  and
• 6:02
  talk
• 6:02
  me
• 6:02
  through
• 6:02
  things
• 6:03
  when
• 6:03
  I
• 6:03
  need
• 6:03
  help.
• 6:04
  And
• 6:04
  that's
• 6:05
  been
• 6:05
  really,
• 6:06
  you
• 6:07
  know,
• 6:07
  I
• 6:07
  couldn't
• 6:07
  ask
• 6:08
  for
• 6:08
  two
• 6:08
  people
• 6:09
  to
• 6:10
  reach
• 6:10
  out
• 6:10
  to,
• 6:11
  you
• 6:11
  know.
• 6:12
  Yeah,
• 6:13
  absolutely.
• 6:14
  And
• 6:14
  I
• 6:14
  think
• 6:14
  the
• 6:14
  amazing
• 6:14
  thing
• 6:15
  too
• 6:15
  is,
• 6:15
  you
• 6:15
  know,
• 6:16
  not
• 6:16
  only
• 6:16
  back
• 6:17
  in
• 6:17
  kind
• 6:17
  of
• 6:17
  the
• 6:17
  mid-90s,
• 6:18
  you
• 6:18
  know,
• 6:18
  there
• 6:18
  was
• 6:19
  no
• 6:19
  information
• 6:20
  for
• 6:21
  chasing
• 6:21
  these.
• 6:21
  We'll
• 6:21
  just
• 6:22
  call
• 6:22
  them
• 6:22
  kind
• 6:22
  of
• 6:23
  alternative
• 6:23
  species
• 6:24
  on
• 6:24
  the
• 6:24
  fly.
• 6:25
  But,
• 6:25
  but
• 6:25
  I
• 6:25
  mean,
• 6:26
  the
• 6:26
  gear
• 6:26
  wasn't
• 6:27
  there
• 6:27
  either,
• 6:27
  right?
• 6:28
  I
• 6:28
  mean,
• 6:28
  and
• 6:28
  so
• 6:29
  no,
• 6:29
  you
• 6:30
  know,
• 6:30
  this
• 6:30
  isn't
• 6:30
  like,
• 6:30
  you
• 6:31
  just
• 6:31
  go
• 6:31
  to
• 6:31
  like
• 6:31
  the
• 6:32
  catalog
• 6:32
  or
• 6:32
  the
• 6:32
  Internet
• 6:33
  and
• 6:33
  you
• 6:33
  get
• 6:34
  a
• 6:34
  muskie
• 6:34
  line,
• 6:34
  you
• 6:35
  get
• 6:35
  a
• 6:35
  muskie
• 6:35
  rod,
• 6:35
  you
• 6:36
  get
• 6:36
  a
• 6:36
  muskie
• 6:36
  reel,
• 6:36
  you
• 6:36
  go
• 6:37
  buy
• 6:37
  muskie
• 6:37
  flies
• 6:38
  and
• 6:38
  you
• 6:38
  go
• 6:38
  buy,
• 6:39
  you
• 6:39
  know,
• 6:39
  terminal
• 6:40
  tackle
• 6:40
  and
• 6:40
  you're
• 6:40
  done.
• 6:41
  I
• 6:41
  mean,
• 6:41
  it
• 6:41
  was
• 6:41
  like
• 6:42
  you
• 6:42
  had
• 6:42
  to
• 6:42
  kind
• 6:42
  of
• 6:42
  build
• 6:43
  it
• 6:43
  all.
• 6:44
  Oh
• 6:44
  yeah.
• 6:45
  Oh
• 6:45
  yeah,
• 6:45
  no
• 6:45
  doubt.
• 6:46
  You
• 6:47
  know,
• 6:47
  my,
• 6:47
  my,
• 6:48
  my
• 6:48
  initial
• 6:48
  muskie
• 6:49
  flies
• 6:49
  were
• 6:50
  basically
• 6:50
  just
• 6:50
  a
• 6:50
  kind
• 6:51
  of
• 6:51
  a
• 6:52
  deceiver
• 6:54
  derivative
• 6:55
  that,
• 6:55
  that
• 6:56
  I
• 6:57
  kind
• 6:58
  of
• 6:58
  made
• 6:58
  up
• 6:58
  myself,
• 7:00
  you
• 7:00
  know,
• 7:01
  with
• 7:01
  a
• 7:01
  lot
• 7:01
  of
• 7:01
  bucktail
• 7:02
  and,
• 7:02
  and
• 7:03
  rabbit
• 7:03
  strip.
• 7:03
  And
• 7:03
  I
• 7:04
  was
• 7:04
  using
• 7:04
  the
• 7:04
  old
• 7:04
  Mustad
• 7:05
  3366
• 7:07
  hooks
• 7:08
  and,
• 7:09
  and
• 7:09
  whatever
• 7:09
  hooks
• 7:10
  I
• 7:10
  could
• 7:10
  find
• 7:12
  the
• 7:12
  wire.
• 7:13
  I,
• 7:14
  I
• 7:14
  had
• 7:14
  picked
• 7:14
  up
• 7:16
  some
• 7:17
  single
• 7:17
  strand
• 7:18
  wire
• 7:18
  down
• 7:18
  in
• 7:19
  Florida
• 7:19
  on
• 7:19
  a
• 7:19
  fishing
• 7:20
  trip
• 7:21
  to
• 7:21
  the
• 7:21
  Everglades.
• 7:22
  I,
• 7:22
  you
• 7:22
  know,
• 7:22
  I
• 7:23
  found
• 7:23
  it
• 7:23
  at,
• 7:23
  at
• 7:24
  this
• 7:24
  fishing
• 7:24
  shop
• 7:24
  and
• 7:24
  I
• 7:25
  bought
• 7:25
  you
• 7:25
  know,
• 7:26
  like
• 7:26
  a
• 7:26
  couple
• 7:26
  of
• 7:27
  packages,
• 7:28
  like
• 7:28
  30
• 7:28
  foot
• 7:28
  rolls
• 7:29
  and
• 7:29
  that,
• 7:29
  you
• 7:29
  know,
• 7:30
  that
• 7:30
  was
• 7:30
  my
• 7:31
  pike
• 7:31
  and
• 7:31
  muskie
• 7:32
  leader.
• 7:32
  You
• 7:33
  know,
• 7:33
  for
• 7:33
  pike.
• 7:34
  When
• 7:34
  I
• 7:34
  was
• 7:34
  pike
• 7:34
  fishing,
• 7:35
  I
• 7:35
  was
• 7:35
  just
• 7:35
  using
• 7:35
  a,
• 7:37
  you
• 7:37
  know,
• 7:37
  a
• 7:38
  conventional
• 7:38
  tackle
• 7:39
  leader,
• 7:39
  which
• 7:40
  really
• 7:40
  aren't
• 7:41
  great,
• 7:43
  you
• 7:44
  know,
• 7:44
  when
• 7:44
  you're
• 7:44
  fishing
• 7:44
  on
• 7:45
  a
• 7:45
  fly,
• 7:45
  fishing
• 7:46
  with
• 7:46
  a
• 7:46
  fly
• 7:46
  rod.
• 7:47
  And
• 7:47
  you
• 7:47
  know,
• 7:47
  back
• 7:48
  then
• 7:48
  there
• 7:48
  were
• 7:48
  no,
• 7:49
  like
• 7:49
  none
• 7:50
  of
• 7:50
  these,
• 7:50
  these
• 7:51
  awesome
• 7:51
  lines
• 7:52
  that
• 7:52
  are
• 7:52
  out
• 7:52
  now
• 7:53
  that
• 7:53
  are,
• 7:53
  you
• 7:53
  know,
• 7:53
  like
• 7:54
  two
• 7:55
  line
• 7:55
  weights
• 7:56
  heavier
• 7:56
  to
• 7:57
  really
• 7:57
  help
• 7:57
  you
• 7:57
  propel
• 7:58
  those
• 7:58
  big
• 7:58
  flies.
• 8:00
  So,
• 8:01
  you
• 8:01
  know,
• 8:01
  and
• 8:02
  the
• 8:02
  rods
• 8:02
  weren't,
• 8:03
  the
• 8:04
  rods
• 8:04
  weren't
• 8:04
  quite
• 8:05
  right,
• 8:06
  you
• 8:06
  know,
• 8:07
  you
• 8:07
  know,
• 8:07
  back
• 8:08
  when
• 8:08
  I
• 8:08
  really
• 8:09
  got
• 8:09
  into
• 8:09
  it,
• 8:09
  it
• 8:09
  was,
• 8:10
  you
• 8:10
  know,
• 8:11
  it
• 8:11
  was,
• 8:11
  Im6
• 8:12
  was
• 8:12
  like
• 8:12
  the
• 8:12
  hot
• 8:13
  thing.
• 8:15
  And
• 8:16
  you
• 8:16
  know,
• 8:17
  I
• 8:17
  remember
• 8:18
  building
• 8:18
  a
• 8:18
  couple
• 8:19
  of
• 8:19
  my,
• 8:19
  my
• 8:19
  own
• 8:20
  rods
• 8:20
  because
• 8:21
  I
• 8:21
  worked
• 8:21
  for
• 8:21
  a
• 8:21
  hook
• 8:22
  and
• 8:22
  hack.
• 8:23
  They
• 8:23
  were
• 8:23
  based
• 8:24
  in
• 8:24
  Plattsburgh
• 8:24
  for
• 8:25
  quite
• 8:25
  a
• 8:25
  while
• 8:25
  and
• 8:25
  I
• 8:25
  worked
• 8:26
  for
• 8:26
  them
• 8:26
  for
• 8:26
  a
• 8:26
  while
• 8:27
  and
• 8:29
  built
• 8:29
  my,
• 8:29
  you
• 8:29
  know,
• 8:30
  an
• 8:30
  IM69
• 8:31
  weight.
• 8:31
  And
• 8:32
  that
• 8:32
  was
• 8:32
  my,
• 8:33
  that
• 8:33
  was
• 8:33
  my
• 8:34
  go
• 8:34
  to
• 8:34
  musky
• 8:35
  rod
• 8:35
  for
• 8:35
  for
• 8:36
  several
• 8:36
  years.
• 8:37
  Musky
• 8:37
  and
• 8:37
  pike
• 8:37
  rod
• 8:38
  for
• 8:38
  several
• 8:38
  years.
• 8:40
  And
• 8:40
  you
• 8:41
  know,
• 8:41
  I
• 8:41
  just
• 8:41
  remember
• 8:42
  what
• 8:42
  a
• 8:42
  bear
• 8:42
  that
• 8:43
  was,
• 8:43
  you
• 8:44
  know,
• 8:44
  like
• 8:45
  it
• 8:45
  was
• 8:45
  so
• 8:46
  much
• 8:46
  more
• 8:46
  pleasant
• 8:46
  to
• 8:47
  do
• 8:47
  the
• 8:48
  stuff
• 8:48
  that
• 8:48
  I
• 8:48
  do
• 8:49
  with
• 8:50
  gear
• 8:50
  that
• 8:51
  is
• 8:51
  intended
• 8:51
  to
• 8:52
  do
• 8:52
  what
• 8:52
  I
• 8:52
  do,
• 8:53
  you
• 8:53
  know.
• 8:54
  Yeah,
• 8:55
  absolutely.
• 8:55
  And
• 8:55
  so
• 8:56
  when
• 8:56
  did
• 8:56
  you
• 8:56
  get
• 8:56
  the
• 8:56
  guide
• 8:56
  bug?
• 8:59
  So
• 8:59
  I
• 9:00
  had,
• 9:00
  I've
• 9:01
  been
• 9:01
  fly
• 9:01
  fishing
• 9:02
  for
• 9:02
  about
• 9:02
  15
• 9:03
  years.
• 9:04
  I
• 9:05
  had
• 9:05
  moved
• 9:05
  from
• 9:06
  northern
• 9:06
  New
• 9:06
  York
• 9:06
  to
• 9:07
  Vermont
• 9:09
  and
• 9:10
  you
• 9:10
  know,
• 9:10
  I
• 9:11
  thought
• 9:11
  about
• 9:12
  guiding
• 9:12
  here
• 9:12
  and
• 9:12
  there
• 9:13
  I
• 9:13
  was,
• 9:13
  I
• 9:13
  was
• 9:13
  kind
• 9:13
  of
• 9:14
  like,
• 9:14
  you
• 9:14
  know,
• 9:14
  I
• 9:14
  don't
• 9:15
  know
• 9:15
  if
• 9:15
  I
• 9:15
  really
• 9:15
  have
• 9:15
  the
• 9:16
  chops
• 9:16
  for
• 9:16
  it.
• 9:17
  I
• 9:17
  don't
• 9:17
  know
• 9:17
  if
• 9:17
  I
• 9:17
  really
• 9:18
  have
• 9:18
  the
• 9:18
  know
• 9:18
  how
• 9:19
  and
• 9:19
  you
• 9:20
  know,
• 9:20
  do
• 9:20
  I.
• 9:20
  Is
• 9:20
  this
• 9:21
  something
• 9:21
  I
• 9:21
  really
• 9:21
  want
• 9:21
  to
• 9:22
  do?
• 9:22
  And
• 9:23
  then
• 9:24
  I
• 9:24
  happened
• 9:25
  to
• 9:25
  see
• 9:25
  a
• 9:25
  local
• 9:26
  guide
• 9:27
  service
• 9:27
  that
• 9:27
  was
• 9:28
  looking
• 9:28
  for
• 9:28
  people,
• 9:29
  looking
• 9:30
  to
• 9:30
  bring
• 9:30
  people
• 9:30
  on,
• 9:30
  on
• 9:31
  board.
• 9:31
  I
• 9:32
  think
• 9:32
  it
• 9:32
  was
• 9:32
  an
• 9:32
  ad
• 9:33
  on
• 9:33
  Craigslist
• 9:33
  of
• 9:33
  all
• 9:34
  places.
• 9:34
  And
• 9:35
  I
• 9:35
  was
• 9:35
  like,
• 9:35
  you
• 9:35
  know,
• 9:35
  what
• 9:35
  the
• 9:36
  heck,
• 9:36
  I'll
• 9:36
  do
• 9:36
  that.
• 9:37
  And
• 9:38
  I
• 9:38
  came
• 9:38
  on
• 9:38
  board
• 9:38
  and
• 9:39
  you
• 9:39
  know,
• 9:39
  it
• 9:39
  was
• 9:39
  mostly
• 9:40
  guiding
• 9:40
  trout
• 9:41
  and,
• 9:41
  and
• 9:42
  I
• 9:42
  was
• 9:42
  like,
• 9:42
  hey
• 9:42
  guys,
• 9:42
  you
• 9:43
  know,
• 9:43
  I
• 9:43
  do
• 9:43
  all
• 9:43
  this
• 9:44
  stuff
• 9:44
  with
• 9:44
  like
• 9:44
  bowfin
• 9:45
  and
• 9:45
  carp
• 9:46
  and
• 9:46
  gar
• 9:46
  and
• 9:46
  pike
• 9:47
  and,
• 9:48
  and
• 9:48
  they're
• 9:48
  like,
• 9:48
  you
• 9:48
  do
• 9:49
  what?
• 9:49
  And
• 9:50
  you
• 9:50
  know,
• 9:51
  I
• 9:52
  was
• 9:52
  just
• 9:52
  like
• 9:52
  this,
• 9:53
  you
• 9:53
  know,
• 9:53
  I,
• 9:54
  I've
• 9:54
  got
• 9:54
  all
• 9:55
  these
• 9:55
  things
• 9:55
  that
• 9:55
  I
• 9:55
  do.
• 9:56
  Is
• 9:56
  this
• 9:56
  something
• 9:56
  you
• 9:57
  think
• 9:57
  people
• 9:57
  would
• 9:58
  be
• 9:58
  interested
• 9:58
  in
• 9:58
  trying
• 9:59
  out?
• 9:59
  And
• 9:59
  they're
• 9:59
  like,
• 10:00
  sure.
• 10:01
  And
• 10:02
  within
• 10:02
  a
• 10:02
  couple
• 10:02
  years,
• 10:03
  about
• 10:03
  a
• 10:04
  third
• 10:04
  of
• 10:04
  the
• 10:04
  trips
• 10:04
  that
• 10:05
  we
• 10:05
  were
• 10:05
  running
• 10:05
  were
• 10:05
  the
• 10:05
  trips
• 10:06
  that
• 10:06
  I
• 10:06
  brought
• 10:06
  to
• 10:07
  them.
• 10:09
  And
• 10:10
  I
• 10:10
  quickly
• 10:10
  realized
• 10:11
  that,
• 10:11
  you
• 10:12
  know,
• 10:12
  didn't
• 10:13
  really
• 10:13
  want
• 10:13
  to
• 10:13
  do
• 10:15
  one
• 10:15
  on
• 10:15
  one
• 10:15
  trout
• 10:16
  trips
• 10:16
  anymore.
• 10:16
  And
• 10:17
  I
• 10:17
  really
• 10:17
  wanted
• 10:17
  to
• 10:17
  focus
• 10:18
  in
• 10:18
  on
• 10:19
  the
• 10:19
  kind
• 10:19
  of
• 10:19
  stuff
• 10:20
  I
• 10:20
  was
• 10:20
  more
• 10:20
  interested.
• 10:21
  And
• 10:21
  I
• 10:21
  went
• 10:22
  out
• 10:22
  on
• 10:22
  my
• 10:22
  own.
• 10:23
  Started
• 10:24
  masterclass.
• 10:26
  Yeah,
• 10:26
  got
• 10:26
  it.
• 10:27
  And
• 10:27
  so
• 10:27
  when
• 10:27
  was
• 10:27
  that?
• 10:29
  That
• 10:29
  was
• 10:30
  in
• 10:30
  fall
• 10:31
  of
• 10:31
  2010.
• 10:33
  Got
• 10:33
  it.
• 10:33
  And
• 10:34
  you
• 10:34
  know,
• 10:34
  so
• 10:35
  you
• 10:35
  mentioned
• 10:35
  Tom
• 10:35
  and
• 10:35
  Blaine
• 10:36
  in
• 10:36
  terms
• 10:36
  of
• 10:37
  fly
• 10:37
  fishing
• 10:37
  mentors.
• 10:38
  You
• 10:38
  know,
• 10:38
  I
• 10:39
  would
• 10:39
  imagine
• 10:39
  they've
• 10:39
  been
• 10:39
  incredibly
• 10:40
  influential
• 10:40
  in
• 10:41
  your
• 10:41
  guiding.
• 10:41
  But
• 10:41
  are
• 10:41
  there
• 10:42
  any
• 10:42
  other
• 10:42
  folks
• 10:42
  in
• 10:42
  the
• 10:42
  guide
• 10:43
  space
• 10:43
  that
• 10:43
  have
• 10:44
  kind
• 10:44
  of
• 10:44
  mentored
• 10:44
  you
• 10:44
  on
• 10:45
  your
• 10:45
  journey?
• 10:47
  You
• 10:47
  know,
• 10:47
  I've
• 10:47
  got
• 10:47
  some,
• 10:48
  some,
• 10:48
  some
• 10:48
  friends
• 10:49
  around
• 10:50
  here
• 10:52
  that,
• 10:53
  that
• 10:53
  have,
• 10:55
  that
• 10:55
  have
• 10:55
  been
• 10:56
  pretty,
• 10:56
  pretty
• 10:57
  helpful.
• 10:57
  You
• 10:57
  know,
• 10:57
  there's,
• 10:58
  there's
• 11:00
  Jesse
• 11:01
  Haller
• 11:01
  who
• 11:02
  works
• 11:02
  for
• 11:02
  Orvis
• 11:03
  now,
• 11:03
  was,
• 11:04
  was
• 11:04
  really
• 11:05
  great.
• 11:07
  You
• 11:07
  know,
• 11:07
  we,
• 11:08
  we
• 11:08
  talk
• 11:08
  shops.
• 11:09
  There's
• 11:09
  definitely
• 11:10
  a
• 11:11
  group
• 11:11
  of
• 11:11
  guys
• 11:11
  around
• 11:12
  here
• 11:12
  that
• 11:12
  I
• 11:12
  talk
• 11:12
  to
• 11:13
  pretty
• 11:14
  routinely
• 11:14
  now.
• 11:15
  But
• 11:16
  you
• 11:16
  know,
• 11:17
  stuff
• 11:17
  that
• 11:18
  I
• 11:18
  do
• 11:18
  isn't,
• 11:20
  you
• 11:20
  know,
• 11:20
  it's,
• 11:21
  it's
• 11:21
  very
• 11:22
  non
• 11:22
  traditional,
• 11:22
  especially
• 11:23
  for
• 11:23
  Vermont.
• 11:24
  Like
• 11:25
  there,
• 11:25
  you
• 11:25
  know,
• 11:25
  when
• 11:26
  I,
• 11:26
  when
• 11:26
  I
• 11:26
  started
• 11:27
  Bringing
• 11:27
  Bowen
• 11:28
  to
• 11:28
  the
• 11:28
  table
• 11:29
  around
• 11:29
  here.
• 11:31
  You
• 11:31
  know,
• 11:31
  I.
• 11:31
  When
• 11:32
  I
• 11:32
  brought
• 11:32
  it
• 11:32
  up
• 11:32
  to
• 11:32
  the
• 11:32
  guide
• 11:33
  service
• 11:33
  that
• 11:33
  I
• 11:33
  was
• 11:33
  originally
• 11:34
  with,
• 11:35
  I
• 11:35
  was
• 11:35
  like,
• 11:36
  you
• 11:36
  know,
• 11:36
  there's
• 11:36
  these
• 11:37
  fish
• 11:37
  called
• 11:37
  bowfin
• 11:38
  in
• 11:38
  Lake
• 11:38
  Champlain,
• 11:38
  and.
• 11:39
  And
• 11:39
  they
• 11:39
  all
• 11:39
  looked
• 11:39
  at
• 11:39
  me
• 11:39
  and
• 11:40
  they're
• 11:40
  like,
• 11:40
  what.
• 11:40
  What's
• 11:40
  a
• 11:41
  Bowen?
• 11:41
  You
• 11:42
  know,
• 11:43
  so
• 11:44
  I
• 11:44
  didn't
• 11:44
  really,
• 11:46
  you
• 11:46
  know,
• 11:46
  like,
• 11:47
  I
• 11:47
  kind
• 11:47
  of,
• 11:48
  you
• 11:49
  know,
• 11:50
  not
• 11:50
  trying
• 11:50
  to
• 11:50
  put
• 11:50
  myself
• 11:51
  up
• 11:51
  on
• 11:51
  a
• 11:51
  pedestal,
• 11:52
  I.
• 11:52
  I
• 11:52
  just
• 11:53
  know
• 11:53
  the
• 11:53
  stuff
• 11:53
  that
• 11:53
  I
• 11:54
  like
• 11:54
  that
• 11:54
  I
• 11:54
  know
• 11:55
  the
• 11:55
  stuff
• 11:55
  that
• 11:55
  I
• 11:55
  want
• 11:56
  to
• 11:56
  do,
• 11:56
  and
• 11:57
  I
• 11:57
  know
• 11:57
  how
• 11:57
  to
• 11:57
  do
• 11:57
  it.
• 11:58
  And
• 11:58
  I'm.
• 11:59
  I'm,
• 12:00
  you
• 12:00
  know,
• 12:00
  and
• 12:01
  kind
• 12:02
  of
• 12:02
  a
• 12:02
  natural
• 12:02
  educator.
• 12:04
  I
• 12:04
  worked
• 12:04
  in
• 12:04
  the
• 12:05
  education
• 12:05
  field
• 12:05
  for.
• 12:06
  For
• 12:06
  10
• 12:06
  years.
• 12:07
  And
• 12:08
  I
• 12:08
  love
• 12:08
  teaching
• 12:09
  people
• 12:09
  new
• 12:10
  things,
• 12:10
  and
• 12:10
  I
• 12:10
  love
• 12:11
  teaching
• 12:11
  people
• 12:11
  about
• 12:11
  the
• 12:12
  lake
• 12:12
  that
• 12:12
  we're
• 12:12
  on
• 12:12
  and
• 12:13
  then
• 12:13
  the
• 12:13
  fish
• 12:13
  that
• 12:14
  are
• 12:14
  here
• 12:14
  and
• 12:14
  how
• 12:14
  to
• 12:14
  catch.
• 12:16
  And
• 12:16
  it
• 12:16
  just
• 12:16
  kind
• 12:17
  of
• 12:17
  came
• 12:17
  together
• 12:17
  for
• 12:17
  me.
• 12:21
  I
• 12:21
  don't
• 12:21
  know
• 12:23
  that
• 12:24
  if
• 12:24
  that
• 12:24
  makes
• 12:25
  sense
• 12:25
  at
• 12:25
  all.
• 12:26
  Yeah,
• 12:26
  it
• 12:27
  does.
• 12:27
  You
• 12:27
  know,
• 12:27
  and
• 12:27
  it's
• 12:27
  an
• 12:28
  interesting
• 12:28
  thing
• 12:28
  because,
• 12:28
  I
• 12:28
  mean,
• 12:29
  I've.
• 12:29
  I've
• 12:29
  got.
• 12:29
  I've
• 12:30
  been
• 12:30
  fortunate
• 12:30
  enough
• 12:30
  to
• 12:31
  know
• 12:31
  and
• 12:31
  fish
• 12:31
  with
• 12:32
  a
• 12:32
  lot
• 12:32
  of
• 12:32
  guides,
• 12:32
  and,
• 12:33
  you
• 12:33
  know,
• 12:33
  it's
• 12:33
  kind
• 12:33
  of.
• 12:33
  And
• 12:34
  you
• 12:34
  and
• 12:34
  I
• 12:34
  have
• 12:34
  talked
• 12:34
  about
• 12:34
  this.
• 12:35
  I
• 12:35
  mean,
• 12:35
  it's
• 12:35
  kind
• 12:35
  of
• 12:35
  that
• 12:35
  secret
• 12:36
  sauce,
• 12:36
  right,
• 12:37
  where,
• 12:37
  you
• 12:37
  know,
• 12:38
  like.
• 12:38
  Like,
• 12:38
  God
• 12:39
  nirvana
• 12:40
  is
• 12:40
  to
• 12:41
  fill
• 12:41
  your
• 12:41
  calendar
• 12:42
  with
• 12:42
  people
• 12:42
  that
• 12:43
  you
• 12:43
  want
• 12:43
  to
• 12:43
  fish
• 12:43
  with
• 12:44
  that
• 12:44
  want
• 12:44
  to
• 12:45
  fish
• 12:45
  the
• 12:46
  way
• 12:46
  you
• 12:46
  want
• 12:46
  to
• 12:46
  guide
• 12:46
  people.
• 12:48
  Right,
• 12:49
  Right.
• 12:50
  Well,
• 12:50
  you
• 12:50
  know,
• 12:50
  actually,
• 12:51
  I
• 12:51
  actually
• 12:52
  have.
• 12:52
  I
• 12:52
  have
• 12:52
  to
• 12:52
  take
• 12:53
  this
• 12:53
  back
• 12:53
  a
• 12:53
  little
• 12:53
  bit
• 12:54
  because
• 12:54
  I
• 12:55
  just
• 12:55
  remembered
• 12:57
  probably
• 12:57
  one
• 12:57
  of
• 12:58
  the
• 12:58
  best
• 12:58
  pieces
• 12:59
  of
• 12:59
  advice
• 13:00
  that
• 13:00
  I
• 13:00
  ever
• 13:00
  got
• 13:01
  about
• 13:02
  guiding
• 13:03
  was
• 13:04
  in
• 13:05
  2012,
• 13:08
  and
• 13:08
  it
• 13:08
  was
• 13:09
  in
• 13:09
  August
• 13:09
  of
• 13:10
  2012.
• 13:11
  And
• 13:13
  earlier
• 13:14
  that
• 13:14
  year,
• 13:14
  I
• 13:14
  had
• 13:15
  filmed
• 13:15
  with
• 13:16
  River
• 13:16
  Monsters.
• 13:17
  They
• 13:17
  came
• 13:17
  to
• 13:18
  Vermont
• 13:18
  to
• 13:19
  film
• 13:20
  an
• 13:20
  episode.
• 13:21
  It
• 13:21
  was
• 13:21
  just
• 13:22
  Vampires
• 13:22
  of
• 13:23
  the
• 13:23
  Deep.
• 13:23
  They
• 13:23
  were
• 13:23
  chasing
• 13:24
  after
• 13:24
  lamprey.
• 13:26
  And.
• 13:27
  And
• 13:28
  U.S.
• 13:28
  fish
• 13:28
  and
• 13:28
  Wildlife
• 13:29
  Service
• 13:29
  had.
• 13:30
  Had
• 13:30
  recommended
• 13:31
  me
• 13:31
  because
• 13:32
  they
• 13:33
  wanted
• 13:33
  to
• 13:33
  try
• 13:33
  to
• 13:33
  put
• 13:34
  Jeremy
• 13:34
  on.
• 13:35
  Jeremy
• 13:36
  Wade
• 13:36
  on.
• 13:36
  On
• 13:37
  some
• 13:37
  muskies.
• 13:38
  And
• 13:38
  they're
• 13:38
  like,
• 13:38
  the
• 13:39
  guy
• 13:39
  you
• 13:39
  got
• 13:39
  to
• 13:39
  talk
• 13:39
  to
• 13:39
  is
• 13:40
  Drew
• 13:40
  Price.
• 13:41
  And,
• 13:41
  you
• 13:42
  know,
• 13:42
  and
• 13:42
  I
• 13:42
  talked
• 13:42
  to
• 13:43
  them
• 13:43
  and
• 13:43
  I
• 13:43
  was
• 13:43
  like,
• 13:43
  you
• 13:43
  know,
• 13:43
  muskies
• 13:44
  may
• 13:44
  not
• 13:45
  be
• 13:45
  a
• 13:45
  great
• 13:45
  option,
• 13:45
  but
• 13:46
  bowfin
• 13:46
  and
• 13:46
  Gar
• 13:47
  and
• 13:47
  there's
• 13:47
  a
• 13:48
  few
• 13:48
  other
• 13:48
  things,
• 13:49
  and
• 13:49
  I'd
• 13:50
  be
• 13:50
  happy
• 13:50
  to
• 13:50
  help
• 13:50
  you
• 13:50
  out
• 13:51
  with
• 13:51
  this.
• 13:51
  So
• 13:51
  I
• 13:51
  was
• 13:51
  like,
• 13:51
  I
• 13:52
  know
• 13:52
  all
• 13:52
  these
• 13:52
  waters
• 13:53
  that
• 13:53
  you're
• 13:53
  on
• 13:53
  and.
• 13:54
  And
• 13:55
  ended
• 13:56
  up
• 13:56
  spending
• 13:56
  five
• 13:57
  days
• 13:57
  with
• 13:57
  them.
• 13:58
  You.
• 13:58
  You
• 13:59
  barely
• 13:59
  even
• 14:00
  see
• 14:00
  me
• 14:00
  in
• 14:00
  the
• 14:00
  episode.
• 14:02
  It's
• 14:02
  kind
• 14:02
  of.
• 14:03
  Kind
• 14:03
  of
• 14:03
  funny.
• 14:03
  They.
• 14:04
  They're
• 14:04
  filming
• 14:04
  the
• 14:04
  back
• 14:05
  end
• 14:05
  of
• 14:05
  the
• 14:05
  canoe.
• 14:05
  Jeremy's
• 14:06
  in
• 14:06
  the
• 14:06
  front
• 14:06
  of
• 14:06
  the
• 14:06
  canoe.
• 14:07
  I'm
• 14:07
  in
• 14:07
  the
• 14:07
  middle,
• 14:08
  and
• 14:08
  the
• 14:08
  top
• 14:09
  third
• 14:09
  of
• 14:10
  the
• 14:10
  screen
• 14:10
  is
• 14:10
  my
• 14:10
  butt,
• 14:12
  so
• 14:13
  you
• 14:14
  really
• 14:14
  don't
• 14:14
  see
• 14:14
  me
• 14:15
  much
• 14:15
  in
• 14:15
  the
• 14:15
  episode.
• 14:16
  But
• 14:17
  Jeremy
• 14:17
  came
• 14:18
  back
• 14:19
  to
• 14:19
  Vermont
• 14:20
  later
• 14:20
  that
• 14:21
  summer,
• 14:22
  and.
• 14:22
  And
• 14:22
  he
• 14:23
  reached
• 14:23
  out
• 14:23
  to
• 14:23
  me,
• 14:23
  and
• 14:23
  he
• 14:23
  said,
• 14:24
  you
• 14:24
  know,
• 14:24
  let's
• 14:24
  go
• 14:24
  fishing.
• 14:25
  And
• 14:26
  we
• 14:26
  took
• 14:26
  him.
• 14:27
  I
• 14:27
  took
• 14:27
  him
• 14:27
  out,
• 14:27
  and
• 14:29
  at
• 14:29
  the
• 14:29
  end
• 14:29
  of
• 14:29
  the
• 14:30
  day,
• 14:30
  when
• 14:30
  I
• 14:30
  was
• 14:30
  driving
• 14:30
  him
• 14:30
  back
• 14:31
  off
• 14:31
  in
• 14:31
  the
• 14:31
  hotel,
• 14:32
  we're
• 14:32
  just
• 14:32
  sitting
• 14:33
  in
• 14:33
  my
• 14:33
  truck
• 14:33
  in
• 14:33
  the
• 14:33
  parking
• 14:34
  lot
• 14:34
  talking.
• 14:35
  And
• 14:35
  he
• 14:36
  was
• 14:36
  telling
• 14:36
  me
• 14:36
  about
• 14:37
  when
• 14:38
  he
• 14:38
  guided
• 14:38
  in
• 14:38
  the
• 14:39
  Amazon,
• 14:39
  and
• 14:40
  he
• 14:40
  said,
• 14:40
  you
• 14:40
  know
• 14:40
  what
• 14:40
  I
• 14:41
  did?
• 14:41
  He
• 14:41
  said,
• 14:44
  I
• 14:46
  did
• 14:46
  what
• 14:46
  I
• 14:47
  wanted
• 14:47
  to
• 14:47
  do.
• 14:48
  I
• 14:48
  didn't
• 14:49
  let
• 14:50
  other
• 14:50
  people
• 14:50
  create
• 14:51
  the
• 14:51
  expectations
• 14:53
  of
• 14:53
  what
• 14:54
  they
• 14:55
  wanted
• 14:55
  my
• 14:55
  guide
• 14:56
  service
• 14:56
  to
• 14:56
  be.
• 14:56
  He's
• 14:57
  like,
• 14:57
  I
• 14:58
  wanted
• 14:58
  my
• 14:58
  guide
• 14:58
  service
• 14:59
  to
• 14:59
  be
• 14:59
  this.
• 15:00
  He's
• 15:00
  like,
• 15:00
  I
• 15:01
  went
• 15:01
  out
• 15:01
  and
• 15:02
  I
• 15:02
  fished
• 15:03
  for
• 15:03
  the
• 15:03
  things
• 15:03
  that
• 15:04
  I
• 15:04
  wanted
• 15:04
  to
• 15:04
  fish
• 15:04
  for,
• 15:05
  and
• 15:05
  people
• 15:06
  came
• 15:06
  to
• 15:07
  me
• 15:07
  because
• 15:07
  of
• 15:07
  the
• 15:08
  interest
• 15:08
  that
• 15:08
  I
• 15:08
  had
• 15:08
  in
• 15:09
  those
• 15:09
  things.
• 15:10
  And
• 15:10
  he
• 15:10
  said.
• 15:11
  He
• 15:11
  said.
• 15:12
  He's
• 15:13
  like,
• 15:13
  I
• 15:13
  was
• 15:13
  booked
• 15:14
  out
• 15:14
  two
• 15:14
  years
• 15:15
  in
• 15:15
  advance.
• 15:15
  He's
• 15:15
  like,
• 15:16
  there
• 15:16
  is
• 15:16
  a
• 15:16
  waiting
• 15:16
  list.
• 15:17
  And
• 15:18
  he's
• 15:18
  like,
• 15:18
  do
• 15:19
  what
• 15:19
  you
• 15:20
  want
• 15:20
  to
• 15:20
  do
• 15:21
  with
• 15:22
  your
• 15:22
  guide
• 15:22
  service.
• 15:23
  And
• 15:24
  that's
• 15:24
  really.
• 15:25
  The
• 15:25
  first
• 15:25
  10
• 15:26
  years
• 15:26
  of
• 15:26
  my
• 15:27
  guide
• 15:27
  service,
• 15:28
  that's
• 15:28
  what
• 15:28
  I
• 15:28
  did.
• 15:29
  And.
• 15:30
  And
• 15:31
  it's
• 15:31
  kind
• 15:31
  of
• 15:31
  still
• 15:32
  my
• 15:32
  attitude
• 15:33
  about
• 15:34
  it.
• 15:34
  Like,
• 15:35
  I.
• 15:36
  You
• 15:36
  know,
• 15:37
  I
• 15:37
  could
• 15:38
  do
• 15:38
  trout
• 15:38
  trips.
• 15:39
  I
• 15:39
  don't.
• 15:40
  For
• 15:40
  the
• 15:40
  most
• 15:40
  part,
• 15:41
  I'll
• 15:41
  do
• 15:41
  some
• 15:41
  streamer
• 15:42
  trips
• 15:42
  for.
• 15:42
  For.
• 15:43
  For
• 15:43
  larger
• 15:43
  trout
• 15:44
  here
• 15:44
  and
• 15:44
  there,
• 15:44
  or
• 15:44
  sight
• 15:45
  fishing
• 15:45
  for.
• 15:45
  For.
• 15:46
  For
• 15:46
  large
• 15:47
  browns
• 15:47
  in
• 15:47
  the.
• 15:48
  In
• 15:48
  the
• 15:48
  fall,
• 15:49
  but
• 15:50
  for
• 15:50
  the
• 15:50
  most
• 15:50
  part,
• 15:50
  I
• 15:50
  avoid
• 15:51
  that.
• 15:53
  I
• 15:54
  have
• 15:55
  been
• 15:55
  very
• 15:55
  fortunate
• 15:55
  that
• 15:56
  most
• 15:56
  of
• 15:56
  the
• 15:56
  people
• 15:56
  who
• 15:57
  come
• 15:57
  to
• 15:57
  me
• 15:58
  want
• 15:59
  to
• 15:59
  do
• 15:59
  the
• 15:59
  things
• 16:00
  that
• 16:00
  I
• 16:00
  do
• 16:00
  because
• 16:01
  they
• 16:01
  see
• 16:01
  the
• 16:02
  excitement
• 16:02
  that
• 16:03
  I
• 16:03
  have
• 16:03
  for
• 16:04
  what
• 16:04
  it
• 16:04
  is
• 16:04
  that
• 16:04
  I
• 16:05
  do.
• 16:06
  And.
• 16:07
  And,
• 16:08
  you
• 16:08
  know,
• 16:09
  whether
• 16:09
  it's,
• 16:10
  you
• 16:10
  know,
• 16:10
  learning
• 16:10
  how
• 16:11
  to
• 16:11
  catch
• 16:11
  both
• 16:11
  in
• 16:12
  a
• 16:12
  gar
• 16:12
  and
• 16:12
  a
• 16:12
  fly
• 16:13
  or.
• 16:13
  Or
• 16:13
  learning
• 16:14
  new
• 16:14
  techniques
• 16:15
  on,
• 16:15
  you
• 16:15
  know,
• 16:16
  like,
• 16:16
  how
• 16:16
  to.
• 16:16
  How
• 16:16
  to.
• 16:17
  How
• 16:17
  to
• 16:17
  locate
• 16:18
  lake
• 16:19
  trout
• 16:20
  and
• 16:20
  target
• 16:20
  lake
• 16:21
  trout
• 16:21
  with
• 16:21
  a
• 16:21
  fly
• 16:21
  rod
• 16:22
  or
• 16:22
  going
• 16:23
  out
• 16:23
  and
• 16:23
  just
• 16:24
  like,
• 16:24
  how
• 16:24
  many
• 16:24
  different
• 16:25
  species
• 16:25
  can
• 16:26
  we
• 16:26
  get
• 16:26
  in
• 16:26
  a
• 16:26
  day
• 16:26
  on
• 16:27
  fly?
• 16:29
  And.
• 16:30
  And
• 16:30
  I
• 16:30
  think
• 16:31
  a
• 16:31
  lot
• 16:32
  of
• 16:32
  people
• 16:32
  really
• 16:32
  appreciate
• 16:33
  that.
• 16:33
  And.
• 16:34
  And
• 16:34
  I've
• 16:34
  actually
• 16:35
  found
• 16:35
  that
• 16:36
  I
• 16:36
  get
• 16:36
  a
• 16:36
  lot
• 16:37
  of
• 16:37
  guides
• 16:37
  who
• 16:37
  come
• 16:38
  to
• 16:38
  me
• 16:38
  who
• 16:39
  want
• 16:39
  to
• 16:40
  do
• 16:40
  something
• 16:41
  different.
• 16:42
  Right?
• 16:43
  Like,
• 16:43
  we've
• 16:44
  all
• 16:45
  chased
• 16:45
  trout.
• 16:47
  And,
• 16:48
  you
• 16:48
  know,
• 16:48
  that's.
• 16:48
  That's
• 16:49
  one
• 16:49
  thing
• 16:49
  that
• 16:49
  is
• 16:50
  like,
• 16:50
  you
• 16:50
  know,
• 16:53
  we.
• 16:54
  Fly
• 16:54
  fishing
• 16:54
  is
• 16:54
  really
• 16:55
  a
• 16:55
  trout
• 16:55
  culture
• 16:56
  for
• 16:57
  the
• 16:57
  most
• 16:57
  part,
• 16:58
  but
• 16:58
  people
• 16:59
  are
• 16:59
  starting
• 16:59
  to
• 16:59
  see,
• 17:00
  wow,
• 17:00
  there's.
• 17:00
  There's
• 17:01
  all
• 17:01
  these
• 17:02
  other
• 17:02
  options
• 17:02
  out
• 17:03
  there.
• 17:03
  I
• 17:03
  mean,
• 17:03
  it's
• 17:03
  not
• 17:04
  really
• 17:04
  starting
• 17:04
  to
• 17:04
  see
• 17:04
  but
• 17:05
  are
• 17:06
  you're
• 17:06
  starting
• 17:06
  to
• 17:06
  see
• 17:07
  it
• 17:07
  become
• 17:08
  more
• 17:09
  mainstream
• 17:09
  these
• 17:10
  days,
• 17:10
  I
• 17:10
  think
• 17:11
  and
• 17:12
  you're
• 17:12
  seeing
• 17:12
  people
• 17:13
  like
• 17:13
  wow,
• 17:13
  this
• 17:14
  is,
• 17:14
  this
• 17:14
  is
• 17:14
  really
• 17:14
  exciting.
• 17:15
  I
• 17:15
  can
• 17:15
  go
• 17:15
  out
• 17:15
  on
• 17:16
  the
• 17:16
  lake
• 17:17
  and
• 17:17
  I
• 17:17
  have
• 17:18
  an
• 17:18
  opportunity
• 17:18
  to
• 17:18
  catch
• 17:19
  this
• 17:19
  ancient
• 17:19
  predator.
• 17:20
  But
• 17:20
  then
• 17:21
  I
• 17:21
  can
• 17:21
  also
• 17:21
  use
• 17:21
  like
• 17:22
  a
• 17:22
  three
• 17:22
  way
• 17:22
  rod
• 17:22
  and
• 17:23
  catch
• 17:23
  these,
• 17:23
  these
• 17:24
  trophy
• 17:24
  beautiful
• 17:25
  panfish.
• 17:27
  And
• 17:27
  you
• 17:27
  know
• 17:27
  I
• 17:27
  got
• 17:28
  a
• 17:28
  shot
• 17:28
  at
• 17:28
  catching
• 17:29
  a
• 17:29
  channel
• 17:29
  catfish
• 17:30
  that
• 17:30
  I'm
• 17:30
  sight
• 17:30
  fishing
• 17:31
  for
• 17:31
  or
• 17:32
  along
• 17:33
  those
• 17:33
  guard.
• 17:33
  I'm
• 17:34
  catching
• 17:34
  it
• 17:34
  with
• 17:34
  a
• 17:34
  fly
• 17:35
  that
• 17:35
  I'm
• 17:35
  not
• 17:35
  using
• 17:35
  a
• 17:35
  hook.
• 17:37
  You
• 17:37
  know,
• 17:37
  it's
• 17:38
  and,
• 17:38
  and
• 17:39
  people
• 17:39
  are
• 17:39
  like
• 17:39
  this
• 17:40
  is
• 17:40
  pretty
• 17:40
  amazing.
• 17:42
  And
• 17:43
  you
• 17:43
  know
• 17:45
  I
• 17:45
  see
• 17:45
  a
• 17:46
  lot
• 17:46
  of,
• 17:47
  a
• 17:47
  lot
• 17:47
  of
• 17:47
  anglers
• 17:48
  get
• 17:48
  really
• 17:49
  excited
• 17:49
  about
• 17:50
  that
• 17:50
  these
• 17:51
  days
• 17:51
  and
• 17:51
  people
• 17:52
  are
• 17:52
  coming
• 17:52
  to
• 17:52
  me
• 17:52
  for
• 17:52
  that
• 17:53
  and
• 17:53
  that
• 17:53
  excites
• 17:54
  me,
• 17:54
  you
• 17:54
  know,
• 17:55
  like,
• 17:56
  you
• 17:57
  know,
• 17:57
  I
• 17:57
  think
• 17:57
  you
• 17:57
  can
• 17:58
  hear
• 17:58
  in
• 17:58
  my
• 17:58
  voice
• 17:58
  like
• 17:59
  that
• 17:59
  I
• 18:00
  find
• 18:00
  this
• 18:00
  stuff
• 18:01
  really
• 18:01
  fun
• 18:03
  and,
• 18:03
  and
• 18:04
  not,
• 18:05
  not
• 18:05
  knowing
• 18:05
  exactly
• 18:06
  what
• 18:06
  the
• 18:06
  day
• 18:06
  is
• 18:07
  going
• 18:07
  to
• 18:07
  bring
• 18:08
  when
• 18:08
  I
• 18:08
  get
• 18:08
  out
• 18:09
  in,
• 18:09
  in
• 18:10
  some
• 18:10
  of
• 18:10
  the
• 18:10
  backwaters
• 18:11
  that
• 18:11
  I
• 18:11
  fish
• 18:13
  that
• 18:13
  you
• 18:13
  know,
• 18:14
  like
• 18:14
  dropping
• 18:14
  this
• 18:14
  rod
• 18:15
  and
• 18:15
  grabbing
• 18:15
  another
• 18:16
  one
• 18:16
  because
• 18:16
  something
• 18:16
  just
• 18:17
  suddenly
• 18:17
  showed
• 18:17
  up,
• 18:18
  you
• 18:18
  know,
• 18:18
  like
• 18:19
  work
• 18:19
  at
• 18:19
  panfish
• 18:20
  and
• 18:20
  all
• 18:20
  of
• 18:20
  a
• 18:20
  sudden
• 18:20
  there's
• 18:20
  a,
• 18:21
  there's
• 18:21
  a
• 18:21
  30
• 18:21
  inch
• 18:21
  bowfin
• 18:22
  that
• 18:22
  comes
• 18:22
  right
• 18:22
  up
• 18:22
  to
• 18:23
  inspect
• 18:23
  the
• 18:23
  boat,
• 18:24
  you
• 18:24
  know
• 18:26
  and,
• 18:27
  and
• 18:28
  you
• 18:29
  know
• 18:30
  I
• 18:30
  love
• 18:30
  that
• 18:31
  stuff
• 18:31
  and,
• 18:31
  and
• 18:32
  I'm
• 18:32
  finding
• 18:32
  more
• 18:33
  and
• 18:33
  more
• 18:33
  anglers
• 18:34
  are
• 18:34
  loving
• 18:35
  that
• 18:35
  kind
• 18:35
  of
• 18:36
  opportunity.
• 18:38
  Very,
• 18:38
  very
• 18:38
  neat.
• 18:39
  And
• 18:39
  so
• 18:39
  you
• 18:39
  know,
• 18:39
  you
• 18:39
  guide
• 18:40
  you
• 18:40
  know,
• 18:41
  Lake
• 18:41
  Champlain,
• 18:42
  you
• 18:42
  know
• 18:42
  and
• 18:42
  for
• 18:42
  folks,
• 18:43
  I
• 18:43
  mean
• 18:43
  I'm,
• 18:43
  I'm
• 18:44
  a
• 18:44
  southerner,
• 18:44
  so
• 18:45
  not
• 18:45
  super
• 18:45
  familiar.
• 18:46
  Yep.
• 18:46
  So
• 18:47
  can
• 18:47
  you
• 18:47
  kind
• 18:47
  of
• 18:47
  give
• 18:48
  us
• 18:48
  kind
• 18:48
  of
• 18:48
  a
• 18:48
  little
• 18:48
  bit
• 18:49
  of
• 18:49
  an
• 18:49
  overview
• 18:49
  of
• 18:49
  the
• 18:49
  area
• 18:50
  and
• 18:50
  the
• 18:50
  fishery?
• 18:52
  Sure,
• 18:52
  absolutely.
• 18:53
  So,
• 18:54
  so
• 18:54
  Lake
• 18:55
  Champlain
• 18:56
  is,
• 18:58
  is.
• 18:58
  It's
• 18:59
  bordered
• 19:00
  by
• 19:01
  Vermont
• 19:01
  on
• 19:02
  the
• 19:02
  east
• 19:02
  side
• 19:02
  and
• 19:03
  New
• 19:03
  York
• 19:03
  on
• 19:03
  the
• 19:04
  west
• 19:04
  side,
• 19:04
  the
• 19:04
  Adirondacks
• 19:05
  on,
• 19:05
  on.
• 19:06
  On
• 19:06
  the
• 19:06
  New
• 19:06
  York
• 19:06
  side
• 19:07
  and
• 19:07
  the
• 19:07
  Green
• 19:07
  Mountains
• 19:08
  on
• 19:08
  the,
• 19:08
  on
• 19:08
  the
• 19:08
  Vermont
• 19:09
  side.
• 19:10
  And
• 19:10
  it
• 19:10
  goes
• 19:11
  north
• 19:11
  into
• 19:11
  Canada
• 19:12
  into
• 19:12
  Quebec.
• 19:13
  And
• 19:13
  10%
• 19:13
  of
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  lake
• 19:14
  is
• 19:14
  in
• 19:15
  Missisquoi
• 19:16
  Bay,
• 19:16
  which
• 19:16
  is
• 19:16
  part
• 19:17
  of
• 19:17
  which
• 19:17
  is
• 19:18
  in
• 19:18
  Canada.
• 19:19
  That's
• 19:19
  a
• 19:19
  place
• 19:19
  I
• 19:19
  don't,
• 19:20
  I've
• 19:20
  never
• 19:20
  fished
• 19:21
  in
• 19:21
  in
• 19:21
  the
• 19:22
  Canadian
• 19:22
  part
• 19:22
  and
• 19:23
  Canadian
• 19:23
  waters
• 19:23
  in
• 19:23
  Lake
• 19:24
  Champlain.
• 19:24
  But
• 19:25
  the
• 19:25
  lake
• 19:25
  itself
• 19:26
  is
• 19:26
  120
• 19:27
  miles
• 19:27
  long
• 19:27
  and
• 19:28
  it,
• 19:28
  you
• 19:29
  know
• 19:29
  in
• 19:29
  into
• 19:30
  from
• 19:30
  Canada
• 19:31
  down
• 19:31
  past
• 19:32
  Whitehall,
• 19:33
  New
• 19:33
  York.
• 19:34
  Both
• 19:34
  places
• 19:35
  the
• 19:35
  U.S.
• 19:35
  navy.
• 19:37
  And
• 19:38
  it
• 19:38
  is
• 19:39
  12
• 19:39
  miles
• 19:40
  wide
• 19:40
  at
• 19:40
  its
• 19:40
  widest
• 19:41
  point
• 19:41
  near
• 19:42
  burlington.
• 19:43
  It's
• 19:43
  about
• 19:43
  400ft
• 19:44
  deep
• 19:45
  at
• 19:46
  its
• 19:46
  mean
• 19:46
  level
• 19:47
  which
• 19:47
  is
• 19:48
  about
• 19:48
  96ft
• 19:49
  above
• 19:49
  sea
• 19:50
  level.
• 19:51
  It's
• 19:51
  got
• 19:51
  about
• 19:52
  7
• 19:52
  1/2
• 19:52
  trillion
• 19:53
  gallons
• 19:53
  of
• 19:54
  water.
• 19:55
  But
• 19:56
  I
• 19:56
  really
• 19:57
  like
• 19:57
  to
• 19:57
  think
• 19:58
  of
• 19:58
  Lake
• 19:58
  Champlain
• 19:59
  as
• 19:59
  a
• 19:59
  very
• 19:59
  dynamic
• 20:00
  system
• 20:02
  because
• 20:03
  it,
• 20:04
  it's,
• 20:04
  it's
• 20:04
  a,
• 20:05
  you
• 20:05
  know,
• 20:05
  a
• 20:06
  big
• 20:06
  catch
• 20:06
  basin
• 20:07
  right
• 20:07
  for,
• 20:07
  for
• 20:07
  it's
• 20:08
  got
• 20:08
  a
• 20:08
  very
• 20:08
  large
• 20:08
  watershed.
• 20:09
  And
• 20:10
  after
• 20:12
  the
• 20:12
  spring
• 20:13
  melt,
• 20:14
  Lake
• 20:14
  Champlain
• 20:14
  typically
• 20:15
  will
• 20:15
  get
• 20:15
  to
• 20:16
  99
• 20:16
  to
• 20:17
  100ft
• 20:17
  above
• 20:18
  sea
• 20:18
  level,
• 20:19
  sometimes
• 20:19
  higher.
• 20:20
  We
• 20:20
  had
• 20:20
  the
• 20:20
  highest
• 20:21
  lake
• 20:21
  level
• 20:21
  in
• 20:21
  2011
• 20:22
  of
• 20:22
  103.3ft.
• 20:24
  So
• 20:24
  tremendous
• 20:25
  amount
• 20:25
  of
• 20:25
  water
• 20:26
  there.
• 20:27
  And
• 20:29
  unlike,
• 20:30
  you
• 20:30
  know,
• 20:30
  Lake
• 20:31
  Champlain
• 20:31
  is
• 20:31
  not
• 20:31
  like
• 20:32
  a
• 20:32
  bathtub.
• 20:32
  So
• 20:32
  it
• 20:33
  doesn't
• 20:33
  just
• 20:33
  come
• 20:33
  straight
• 20:34
  up
• 20:34
  when
• 20:35
  it
• 20:35
  comes
• 20:35
  out,
• 20:35
  it
• 20:36
  spreads
• 20:36
  out
• 20:36
  and
• 20:36
  it
• 20:37
  spreads
• 20:37
  out
• 20:37
  into
• 20:37
  these,
• 20:38
  these
• 20:38
  large
• 20:39
  wetlands.
• 20:39
  We
• 20:39
  have
• 20:39
  these
• 20:40
  massive
• 20:40
  wetland
• 20:41
  complexes
• 20:42
  in
• 20:42
  both
• 20:42
  New
• 20:43
  York
• 20:43
  and
• 20:43
  Vermont.
• 20:43
  Vermont
• 20:44
  has
• 20:44
  a
• 20:44
  lot
• 20:44
  more
• 20:45
  than
• 20:45
  New
• 20:45
  York.
• 20:46
  And
• 20:47
  you
• 20:47
  know,
• 20:47
  so
• 20:48
  you
• 20:48
  get
• 20:48
  these
• 20:49
  incredible
• 20:49
  opportunities
• 20:50
  to
• 20:51
  fish
• 20:51
  flooded
• 20:51
  forests
• 20:52
  in
• 20:52
  the
• 20:52
  springtime.
• 20:53
  And
• 20:53
  we
• 20:54
  have
• 20:54
  carp
• 20:54
  and
• 20:55
  bowfin
• 20:56
  and,
• 20:56
  and
• 20:56
  pike
• 20:58
  and
• 20:59
  it
• 20:59
  like
• 21:00
  literally
• 21:00
  in
• 21:00
  the
• 21:01
  trees.
• 21:01
  It's
• 21:02
  pretty
• 21:02
  neat
• 21:02
  to
• 21:02
  be
• 21:02
  able
• 21:03
  to
• 21:03
  push
• 21:03
  coral
• 21:03
  through
• 21:03
  the
• 21:04
  trees
• 21:05
  and
• 21:05
  find
• 21:06
  your,
• 21:06
  your
• 21:06
  target
• 21:07
  species.
• 21:10
  But
• 21:10
  in,
• 21:11
  in,
• 21:12
  in
• 21:12
  this
• 21:12
  late
• 21:13
  summer,
• 21:14
  you
• 21:14
  know,
• 21:14
  getting
• 21:14
  to
• 21:15
  September,
• 21:15
  even
• 21:15
  to
• 21:16
  October,
• 21:17
  the
• 21:17
  lake
• 21:17
  level
• 21:18
  can
• 21:18
  drop
• 21:18
  down
• 21:18
  as
• 21:19
  low
• 21:19
  as
• 21:21
  94
• 21:22
  or
• 21:22
  even
• 21:22
  93ft.
• 21:24
  So
• 21:24
  you
• 21:24
  could
• 21:24
  have
• 21:25
  a
• 21:25
  7
• 21:25
  foot
• 21:26
  lake
• 21:27
  level
• 21:27
  fluctuation
• 21:28
  throughout
• 21:29
  the
• 21:29
  year.
• 21:29
  And
• 21:30
  if
• 21:30
  we
• 21:30
  have
• 21:30
  like
• 21:30
  a
• 21:31
  big
• 21:31
  water
• 21:31
  event
• 21:31
  like
• 21:32
  when
• 21:32
  we
• 21:32
  had
• 21:32
  Hurricane
• 21:33
  Irene
• 21:33
  or
• 21:33
  we
• 21:33
  had
• 21:33
  the
• 21:34
  big
• 21:34
  flood
• 21:34
  event
• 21:36
  two
• 21:37
  years
• 21:37
  ago,
• 21:39
  I
• 21:39
  mean,
• 21:39
  the
• 21:39
  lake
• 21:39
  level
• 21:40
  came
• 21:40
  up
• 21:40
  two
• 21:41
  feet
• 21:42
  in,
• 21:42
  in
• 21:43
  two
• 21:43
  days,
• 21:45
  which
• 21:45
  is
• 21:45
  just
• 21:45
  a
• 21:46
  massive
• 21:46
  volume
• 21:46
  of
• 21:47
  water.
• 21:48
  So
• 21:48
  it's,
• 21:49
  it's
• 21:49
  a
• 21:49
  really
• 21:49
  dynamic
• 21:50
  system
• 21:51
  that
• 21:52
  can
• 21:52
  change
• 21:52
  a
• 21:52
  lot.
• 21:53
  And
• 21:54
  every
• 21:55
  time,
• 21:56
  you
• 21:56
  know,
• 21:56
  every
• 21:56
  year
• 21:57
  is
• 21:57
  new
• 21:57
  on,
• 21:58
  on
• 21:58
  the
• 21:58
  lake.
• 21:59
  So
• 21:59
  when
• 21:59
  you
• 21:59
  get
• 22:00
  on
• 22:00
  that
• 22:00
  lake,
• 22:01
  you'll
• 22:01
  have
• 22:01
  a
• 22:01
  general
• 22:02
  idea
• 22:02
  where
• 22:03
  those,
• 22:03
  where
• 22:03
  the
• 22:03
  fish
• 22:04
  are.
• 22:05
  But
• 22:06
  you
• 22:06
  really
• 22:06
  have
• 22:06
  to
• 22:06
  kind
• 22:06
  of
• 22:07
  relearn
• 22:07
  it
• 22:07
  every
• 22:08
  year,
• 22:09
  which
• 22:09
  I,
• 22:09
  you
• 22:10
  know,
• 22:10
  I,
• 22:11
  I
• 22:12
  find
• 22:12
  that
• 22:12
  very
• 22:12
  exciting.
• 22:13
  I
• 22:13
  find
• 22:14
  that
• 22:14
  really
• 22:14
  interesting.
• 22:14
  You
• 22:15
  know,
• 22:15
  you
• 22:15
  kind
• 22:15
  of
• 22:15
  got
• 22:15
  a
• 22:16
  different
• 22:16
  playing
• 22:16
  field
• 22:17
  every
• 22:17
  time
• 22:17
  you
• 22:17
  get
• 22:17
  out
• 22:18
  there.
• 22:19
  You
• 22:19
  know,
• 22:20
  you
• 22:20
  don't
• 22:20
  know
• 22:21
  exactly
• 22:21
  where.
• 22:22
  You
• 22:22
  have
• 22:22
  an
• 22:22
  idea
• 22:23
  what
• 22:23
  everything's
• 22:23
  going
• 22:23
  to
• 22:24
  be
• 22:24
  and
• 22:24
  how
• 22:24
  it's
• 22:24
  going
• 22:24
  to
• 22:24
  play
• 22:25
  out,
• 22:25
  but
• 22:25
  you
• 22:25
  don't
• 22:25
  know
• 22:26
  ex.
• 22:27
  And
• 22:27
  in
• 22:28
  one
• 22:28
  place
• 22:28
  it
• 22:28
  fishes
• 22:29
  very
• 22:29
  well
• 22:29
  one
• 22:29
  year,
• 22:30
  may
• 22:30
  not
• 22:30
  fish
• 22:30
  very
• 22:31
  well
• 22:31
  the
• 22:31
  next
• 22:31
  year.
• 22:32
  So
• 22:32
  that's,
• 22:33
  that's
• 22:33
  kind
• 22:33
  of
• 22:33
  a
• 22:33
  neat
• 22:33
  part
• 22:33
  of
• 22:34
  it.
• 22:34
  But
• 22:35
  we
• 22:35
  have
• 22:37
  88
• 22:37
  different
• 22:38
  species
• 22:38
  in
• 22:38
  the
• 22:38
  lake.
• 22:39
  Of
• 22:40
  that
• 22:41
  about
• 22:42
  25
• 22:42
  or
• 22:43
  30
• 22:44
  are
• 22:45
  really
• 22:45
  available
• 22:45
  to,
• 22:46
  to,
• 22:46
  for
• 22:47
  fly
• 22:47
  anglers
• 22:48
  to
• 22:48
  catch.
• 22:49
  We've
• 22:49
  got
• 22:50
  a
• 22:50
  lot
• 22:50
  of
• 22:50
  different
• 22:50
  panfish.
• 22:51
  We've
• 22:51
  got,
• 22:52
  we've
• 22:52
  got
• 22:52
  some
• 22:53
  of
• 22:53
  the
• 22:53
  Best.
• 22:53
  Best
• 22:54
  bass
• 22:54
  fishing
• 22:55
  in
• 22:55
  the
• 22:55
  country.
• 22:56
  Lake
• 22:56
  Champlain
• 22:57
  is
• 22:57
  rate
• 22:58
  the
• 22:59
  past
• 22:59
  30
• 22:59
  years
• 22:59
  has
• 23:00
  been
• 23:00
  rated
• 23:00
  by
• 23:00
  Bassmasters
• 23:01
  as
• 23:02
  one
• 23:02
  of
• 23:02
  the
• 23:02
  top
• 23:02
  five
• 23:03
  bass
• 23:03
  lakes
• 23:03
  in
• 23:04
  the
• 23:04
  country
• 23:04
  primarily
• 23:05
  because
• 23:05
  of
• 23:05
  smallmouth
• 23:06
  bass.
• 23:06
  The
• 23:07
  small
• 23:07
  mouse
• 23:07
  fishery
• 23:07
  here
• 23:08
  is
• 23:08
  just
• 23:09
  absolutely
• 23:09
  insane
• 23:11
  and
• 23:12
  I
• 23:12
  love
• 23:12
  chasing
• 23:13
  them
• 23:13
  in
• 23:14
  the
• 23:14
  lake.
• 23:14
  But
• 23:15
  what
• 23:15
  I
• 23:15
  find
• 23:15
  even
• 23:16
  more
• 23:16
  fun
• 23:16
  is
• 23:17
  finding
• 23:17
  is
• 23:17
  chasing
• 23:18
  them
• 23:18
  in
• 23:18
  the
• 23:18
  tributaries
• 23:19
  in
• 23:19
  the
• 23:20
  springtime
• 23:21
  when
• 23:21
  they
• 23:21
  come
• 23:21
  into
• 23:22
  spawn
• 23:23
  because
• 23:24
  you
• 23:24
  go
• 23:25
  out
• 23:25
  with
• 23:25
  a
• 23:25
  five
• 23:25
  or
• 23:25
  a
• 23:26
  six
• 23:26
  weight
• 23:27
  and
• 23:28
  you've
• 23:28
  got.
• 23:29
  You're
• 23:29
  basically
• 23:30
  fishing
• 23:31
  like
• 23:32
  you'd
• 23:32
  be
• 23:32
  fishing
• 23:32
  for
• 23:32
  trout
• 23:33
  but
• 23:33
  you're
• 23:33
  getting
• 23:33
  2
• 23:34
  to
• 23:34
  5
• 23:34
  pound
• 23:34
  smallmouth
• 23:35
  instead
• 23:36
  which,
• 23:36
  which
• 23:37
  doesn't
• 23:37
  suck.
• 23:40
  We've
• 23:40
  got
• 23:40
  a
• 23:41
  lot
• 23:41
  of
• 23:41
  trout
• 23:41
  or
• 23:42
  we've
• 23:42
  got
• 23:42
  a
• 23:42
  lot
• 23:42
  of.
• 23:43
  A
• 23:43
  lot
• 23:43
  of
• 23:44
  lake
• 23:44
  trout.
• 23:45
  Our
• 23:45
  lake
• 23:45
  trout
• 23:45
  fishery
• 23:46
  is
• 23:47
  fantastic.
• 23:49
  They're
• 23:49
  available
• 23:50
  in
• 23:50
  the
• 23:51
  early
• 23:51
  season
• 23:54
  and
• 23:54
  in
• 23:55
  the
• 23:55
  late
• 23:55
  season.
• 23:55
  I
• 23:55
  kind
• 23:56
  of
• 23:56
  call
• 23:56
  them
• 23:56
  my
• 23:56
  shoulder
• 23:57
  season
• 23:58
  fish.
• 23:59
  I
• 24:00
  so
• 24:00
  I'll
• 24:00
  start
• 24:00
  catching
• 24:01
  those
• 24:02
  in
• 24:02
  in
• 24:03
  March
• 24:04
  and
• 24:05
  using
• 24:05
  floating
• 24:06
  lines
• 24:06
  and
• 24:06
  intermediate
• 24:07
  lines
• 24:07
  and
• 24:07
  they're
• 24:08
  available
• 24:08
  until
• 24:09
  the
• 24:09
  water
• 24:09
  starts
• 24:09
  warming
• 24:10
  up
• 24:10
  to
• 24:10
  about
• 24:10
  45
• 24:11
  degrees
• 24:11
  and
• 24:12
  they
• 24:12
  think
• 24:12
  stop,
• 24:13
  start
• 24:13
  sinking
• 24:13
  down
• 24:13
  a
• 24:13
  little
• 24:14
  bit
• 24:14
  and
• 24:14
  you
• 24:14
  can
• 24:14
  still
• 24:14
  get
• 24:14
  them
• 24:15
  on
• 24:15
  sinking
• 24:15
  lines
• 24:16
  down
• 24:16
  to
• 24:16
  about
• 24:16
  50ft
• 24:19
  and
• 24:19
  then
• 24:19
  they'll
• 24:19
  show
• 24:20
  back
• 24:20
  up
• 24:20
  again
• 24:21
  starting
• 24:21
  usually
• 24:21
  in
• 24:22
  October.
• 24:23
  October,
• 24:24
  November
• 24:24
  and
• 24:25
  December
• 24:25
  can
• 24:26
  be
• 24:26
  fantastic
• 24:27
  months
• 24:27
  for
• 24:27
  chasing
• 24:28
  lakers
• 24:29
  on
• 24:29
  a
• 24:29
  fly.
• 24:31
  We've
• 24:31
  got
• 24:31
  some
• 24:32
  great
• 24:32
  salmon
• 24:33
  runs
• 24:33
  on
• 24:34
  the
• 24:34
  lake.
• 24:34
  We've
• 24:34
  got
• 24:34
  landlocked
• 24:35
  Atlantic
• 24:35
  salmon.
• 24:36
  We
• 24:36
  do
• 24:37
  have
• 24:37
  some
• 24:37
  steelhead
• 24:37
  runs.
• 24:38
  I've
• 24:39
  got
• 24:39
  pike,
• 24:40
  pickerel
• 24:40
  and
• 24:40
  muskie.
• 24:41
  We
• 24:41
  have
• 24:41
  hybrids
• 24:42
  of
• 24:43
  pike
• 24:43
  and
• 24:43
  pickerel
• 24:45
  which
• 24:46
  some
• 24:46
  people
• 24:46
  around
• 24:46
  here
• 24:47
  will
• 24:47
  call
• 24:47
  pikerel.
• 24:48
  Really,
• 24:49
  really
• 24:49
  attractive
• 24:50
  fish.
• 24:52
  We've
• 24:52
  got
• 24:53
  walleye,
• 24:53
  we've
• 24:54
  got
• 24:55
  bowfin.
• 24:56
  You
• 24:56
  know,
• 24:56
  I.
• 24:57
  I've
• 24:57
  got
• 24:57
  one
• 24:57
  client
• 24:58
  who's
• 24:58
  got
• 24:59
  almost
• 25:00
  every
• 25:00
  IGFA
• 25:01
  typic
• 25:02
  class
• 25:03
  record
• 25:04
  bowfin
• 25:05
  and
• 25:05
  most
• 25:05
  of
• 25:05
  them
• 25:06
  have
• 25:06
  been
• 25:06
  caught
• 25:06
  on
• 25:06
  Lake
• 25:07
  Champlain.
• 25:08
  So
• 25:09
  we
• 25:09
  have
• 25:09
  a
• 25:09
  lot
• 25:09
  of
• 25:09
  bowfin,
• 25:10
  we've
• 25:10
  got
• 25:11
  long
• 25:11
  nose
• 25:12
  gar.
• 25:12
  We've
• 25:12
  got
• 25:13
  a
• 25:13
  great
• 25:13
  population
• 25:14
  of
• 25:16
  carp.
• 25:18
  We
• 25:18
  get
• 25:18
  these
• 25:19
  great
• 25:19
  sucker
• 25:19
  runs.
• 25:19
  I
• 25:20
  love
• 25:20
  catching
• 25:20
  suckers
• 25:21
  on
• 25:21
  a
• 25:21
  fly.
• 25:21
  I
• 25:22
  actually
• 25:23
  the
• 25:23
  state
• 25:23
  record,
• 25:23
  the
• 25:24
  Vermont
• 25:24
  state
• 25:24
  record
• 25:25
  for
• 25:25
  white
• 25:25
  sucker
• 25:26
  caught
• 25:26
  on
• 25:26
  a
• 25:26
  fly
• 25:28
  which
• 25:28
  is
• 25:28
  a
• 25:29
  massive
• 25:29
  white
• 25:29
  sucker,
• 25:30
  like
• 25:30
  6.3
• 25:32
  pounds
• 25:33
  or
• 25:33
  something
• 25:33
  like
• 25:33
  that.
• 25:34
  Really
• 25:34
  big
• 25:34
  fish.
• 25:37
  Let
• 25:37
  me
• 25:37
  see,
• 25:37
  what
• 25:37
  else
• 25:38
  do
• 25:38
  we
• 25:38
  have?
• 25:38
  And
• 25:38
  we
• 25:38
  got,
• 25:39
  we
• 25:39
  got
• 25:39
  just.
• 25:39
  There's
• 25:40
  so
• 25:40
  many
• 25:40
  different
• 25:40
  opportunities
• 25:42
  when
• 25:43
  you
• 25:43
  go
• 25:43
  out
• 25:43
  there.
• 25:45
  And
• 25:46
  we've
• 25:46
  got
• 25:46
  freshwater
• 25:47
  drum.
• 25:47
  I
• 25:48
  love,
• 25:48
  I
• 25:48
  love
• 25:48
  fishing
• 25:48
  them.
• 25:49
  A
• 25:49
  lot
• 25:49
  of
• 25:49
  people
• 25:49
  around
• 25:49
  here
• 25:50
  call
• 25:50
  them
• 25:50
  sheepshead.
• 25:52
  That's
• 25:53
  one
• 25:53
  of
• 25:53
  the
• 25:53
  hardest
• 25:53
  fighting
• 25:54
  fish
• 25:54
  on
• 25:54
  the
• 25:54
  lake.
• 25:55
  They're.
• 25:55
  They're
• 25:57
  really
• 25:57
  Challenging
• 25:58
  to
• 25:58
  sight
• 25:58
  fish
• 25:58
  for,
• 25:59
  but
• 25:59
  you
• 25:59
  can
• 25:59
  also
• 26:00
  cast
• 26:00
  streamers
• 26:00
  for
• 26:00
  them.
• 26:01
  I
• 26:01
  get
• 26:02
  some,
• 26:02
  we
• 26:02
  get
• 26:02
  some
• 26:03
  big
• 26:03
  ones
• 26:03
  up
• 26:04
  to
• 26:04
  around
• 26:04
  20
• 26:05
  pounds.
• 26:05
  And,
• 26:05
  and
• 26:06
  that
• 26:06
  will
• 26:06
  just,
• 26:07
  you
• 26:07
  know,
• 26:08
  that
• 26:08
  will
• 26:09
  bend
• 26:10
  your
• 26:10
  e
• 26:10
  way
• 26:11
  right
• 26:11
  down
• 26:11
  to
• 26:11
  the
• 26:11
  cork
• 26:12
  when
• 26:13
  you're
• 26:13
  fighting
• 26:13
  one
• 26:13
  of
• 26:13
  those
• 26:14
  things.
• 26:15
  It's,
• 26:16
  it's,
• 26:16
  it's
• 26:18
  pretty
• 26:19
  awesome
• 26:19
  fishery.
• 26:20
  I
• 26:21
  feel
• 26:21
  really
• 26:21
  fortunate
• 26:22
  to
• 26:22
  be
• 26:22
  here,
• 26:24
  and
• 26:24
  I
• 26:24
  feel
• 26:25
  really
• 26:25
  fortunate
• 26:25
  to
• 26:25
  be,
• 26:25
  you
• 26:26
  know,
• 26:26
  like
• 26:26
  one
• 26:26
  of
• 26:26
  the
• 26:26
  first
• 26:26
  people
• 26:27
  who's
• 26:27
  really,
• 26:28
  you
• 26:29
  know,
• 26:29
  promoting
• 26:30
  Lake
• 26:30
  Champlain
• 26:31
  fly
• 26:31
  fishing.
• 26:33
  Very,
• 26:33
  very
• 26:33
  neat.
• 26:34
  And
• 26:34
  you'd
• 26:34
  mentioned
• 26:34
  earlier
• 26:35
  that
• 26:35
  you,
• 26:35
  you
• 26:36
  know,
• 26:36
  you
• 26:36
  basically
• 26:36
  had
• 26:37
  to
• 26:37
  relearn
• 26:38
  the
• 26:38
  lake
• 26:39
  every
• 26:39
  year.
• 26:39
  And,
• 26:39
  you
• 26:39
  know,
• 26:40
  most
• 26:40
  of
• 26:40
  my
• 26:40
  guide
• 26:40
  guests
• 26:41
  are,
• 26:41
  you
• 26:42
  know,
• 26:42
  creek
• 26:42
  and
• 26:42
  river
• 26:43
  guides.
• 26:43
  And
• 26:43
  so,
• 26:43
  you
• 26:43
  know,
• 26:44
  is
• 26:44
  that
• 26:44
  the
• 26:44
  main
• 26:45
  difference,
• 26:45
  you
• 26:45
  know,
• 26:46
  fishing
• 26:46
  in
• 26:47
  a
• 26:47
  lake
• 26:47
  or
• 26:47
  is.
• 26:48
  Are
• 26:48
  there
• 26:48
  other
• 26:48
  things
• 26:49
  that
• 26:49
  make
• 26:49
  the
• 26:49
  lake
• 26:49
  game
• 26:50
  different?
• 26:51
  Oh,
• 26:52
  there's,
• 26:52
  there's
• 26:52
  so
• 26:52
  many
• 26:52
  things
• 26:53
  that
• 26:53
  make
• 26:53
  it
• 26:53
  different.
• 26:54
  I
• 26:54
  mean,
• 26:57
  you
• 26:57
  know,
• 26:59
  you
• 26:59
  got
• 26:59
  to
• 26:59
  deal
• 26:59
  with
• 27:00
  boat
• 27:00
  traffic.
• 27:01
  You
• 27:01
  really
• 27:02
  have
• 27:02
  to
• 27:02
  know
• 27:02
  how
• 27:03
  to
• 27:03
  play
• 27:03
  the
• 27:04
  weather.
• 27:05
  You
• 27:05
  know,
• 27:06
  like
• 27:06
  if
• 27:06
  you're.
• 27:07
  I'm
• 27:08
  fishing
• 27:08
  in,
• 27:09
  in
• 27:09
  a
• 27:09
  towie
• 27:10
  on
• 27:11
  this
• 27:11
  lake
• 27:11
  and
• 27:12
  this
• 27:12
  is,
• 27:12
  this
• 27:12
  is
• 27:13
  a
• 27:13
  big
• 27:13
  lake.
• 27:14
  You
• 27:14
  know,
• 27:14
  it's
• 27:14
  a,
• 27:14
  it's
• 27:14
  a
• 27:15
  very
• 27:15
  large
• 27:15
  lake.
• 27:17
  And,
• 27:19
  you
• 27:19
  know,
• 27:19
  if
• 27:20
  I
• 27:21
  am
• 27:21
  not
• 27:22
  paying
• 27:22
  close
• 27:22
  attention
• 27:23
  to
• 27:23
  the
• 27:24
  weather,
• 27:24
  I
• 27:24
  could
• 27:24
  be
• 27:25
  in
• 27:25
  deep
• 27:25
  trouble.
• 27:26
  You
• 27:26
  know,
• 27:26
  you
• 27:27
  really
• 27:27
  have
• 27:27
  to
• 27:27
  know
• 27:28
  what
• 27:28
  bays
• 27:29
  are
• 27:29
  safe
• 27:30
  with
• 27:30
  the
• 27:31
  direction
• 27:31
  of
• 27:31
  the
• 27:32
  wind.
• 27:32
  You
• 27:32
  got
• 27:32
  to
• 27:32
  be
• 27:33
  really
• 27:33
  paying
• 27:34
  attention
• 27:35
  to
• 27:36
  that
• 27:36
  wind
• 27:36
  forecast,
• 27:37
  the
• 27:37
  weather
• 27:37
  forecast,
• 27:38
  and
• 27:38
  then
• 27:38
  just
• 27:38
  paying
• 27:39
  attention
• 27:39
  when
• 27:39
  you're
• 27:39
  on
• 27:39
  the
• 27:40
  water,
• 27:40
  because
• 27:41
  things
• 27:41
  can
• 27:41
  go
• 27:41
  wrong
• 27:42
  very,
• 27:42
  very
• 27:42
  quickly,
• 27:44
  you
• 27:44
  know,
• 27:44
  especially
• 27:45
  when
• 27:45
  the
• 27:45
  water
• 27:45
  is
• 27:46
  cold.
• 27:47
  You
• 27:47
  know,
• 27:47
  when
• 27:47
  the,
• 27:48
  when
• 27:48
  the
• 27:48
  water
• 27:49
  is,
• 27:49
  is
• 27:50
  below
• 27:50
  60
• 27:51
  degrees,
• 27:51
  you
• 27:51
  know,
• 27:52
  that's,
• 27:52
  that's
• 27:53
  a
• 27:53
  dangerous
• 27:53
  place
• 27:53
  this
• 27:54
  is
• 27:54
  now.
• 27:56
  And
• 27:57
  I,
• 27:58
  you
• 27:58
  know,
• 27:58
  I
• 27:58
  take
• 27:58
  safety
• 27:59
  very
• 27:59
  seriously
• 28:00
  on
• 28:00
  the
• 28:00
  lake.
• 28:03
  If
• 28:05
  it's
• 28:05
  a
• 28:06
  lake
• 28:06
  where
• 28:07
  things
• 28:08
  can
• 28:08
  change
• 28:09
  very
• 28:09
  dramatically
• 28:10
  very
• 28:10
  quickly.
• 28:11
  I
• 28:11
  can
• 28:12
  remember
• 28:12
  one
• 28:12
  day
• 28:13
  I
• 28:13
  was
• 28:13
  out
• 28:13
  with
• 28:14
  my
• 28:14
  Bowfin
• 28:15
  client,
• 28:16
  Richard
• 28:16
  Hart,
• 28:17
  one
• 28:17
  of
• 28:17
  my
• 28:17
  Bowfin
• 28:18
  clients,
• 28:19
  and
• 28:19
  he's
• 28:20
  the
• 28:20
  guy
• 28:20
  who's
• 28:20
  got
• 28:21
  all
• 28:21
  the
• 28:21
  IGFA
• 28:22
  records.
• 28:23
  And
• 28:23
  Rich
• 28:24
  and
• 28:24
  I
• 28:24
  were.
• 28:25
  This
• 28:25
  is
• 28:25
  back
• 28:26
  when
• 28:26
  I
• 28:26
  was
• 28:26
  guiding
• 28:26
  out
• 28:26
  of
• 28:26
  a
• 28:27
  canoe
• 28:28
  and
• 28:28
  Rich
• 28:28
  and
• 28:28
  I
• 28:28
  were
• 28:29
  out
• 28:29
  in
• 28:29
  this
• 28:30
  backwater
• 28:31
  and
• 28:33
  we
• 28:33
  had
• 28:33
  a
• 28:33
  light
• 28:33
  chop
• 28:34
  on
• 28:34
  the
• 28:34
  water.
• 28:34
  It
• 28:34
  was
• 28:34
  maybe
• 28:35
  3
• 28:35
  or
• 28:35
  4
• 28:35
  inch
• 28:35
  chop.
• 28:36
  And
• 28:36
  I
• 28:36
  just
• 28:36
  saw
• 28:37
  this
• 28:37
  dark
• 28:37
  cloud
• 28:38
  coming
• 28:38
  across
• 28:38
  the
• 28:39
  lake
• 28:39
  and
• 28:39
  I
• 28:39
  was
• 28:40
  like,
• 28:40
  rich,
• 28:41
  I'm
• 28:41
  really
• 28:41
  concerned
• 28:42
  about
• 28:42
  that.
• 28:42
  And
• 28:43
  it
• 28:43
  started
• 28:43
  getting
• 28:43
  in
• 28:44
  closer
• 28:44
  and
• 28:44
  the
• 28:44
  wind
• 28:44
  started
• 28:45
  picking
• 28:45
  up
• 28:45
  and
• 28:46
  it
• 28:46
  went
• 28:46
  from
• 28:46
  a
• 28:46
  3
• 28:46
  to
• 28:47
  4
• 28:47
  inch
• 28:47
  chop
• 28:47
  to
• 28:48
  a
• 28:48
  3
• 28:48
  to
• 28:48
  4
• 28:49
  inch
• 28:49
  crashing
• 28:50
  waves.
• 28:51
  And
• 28:51
  we
• 28:52
  had
• 28:52
  a
• 28:52
  mile
• 28:53
  and
• 28:53
  A
• 28:53
  half
• 28:53
  to
• 28:53
  paddle
• 28:54
  back
• 28:54
  to
• 28:54
  the
• 28:54
  launch.
• 28:55
  And
• 28:56
  that
• 28:56
  was
• 28:57
  one
• 28:57
  of
• 28:57
  the
• 28:57
  most
• 28:57
  frightening
• 28:58
  moments
• 28:58
  I've
• 28:58
  ever
• 28:58
  had
• 28:59
  on
• 28:59
  that
• 28:59
  lake.
• 29:00
  But
• 29:00
  it
• 29:00
  went
• 29:00
  from,
• 29:01
  it
• 29:02
  went
• 29:02
  from
• 29:02
  zero
• 29:03
  to
• 29:03
  60
• 29:04
  in,
• 29:04
  in
• 29:04
  under
• 29:05
  five
• 29:05
  minutes,
• 29:06
  you
• 29:06
  know,
• 29:07
  so
• 29:08
  you
• 29:08
  really
• 29:08
  have
• 29:08
  to
• 29:08
  keep
• 29:09
  your
• 29:09
  widget
• 29:09
  value
• 29:09
  on
• 29:10
  the
• 29:10
  lake.
• 29:12
  And,
• 29:13
  you
• 29:13
  know,
• 29:13
  you
• 29:13
  kind
• 29:13
  of
• 29:13
  have
• 29:13
  to
• 29:13
  watch
• 29:14
  out
• 29:14
  for
• 29:14
  other
• 29:14
  boaters.
• 29:15
  You
• 29:15
  got
• 29:15
  to
• 29:15
  watch
• 29:15
  out
• 29:15
  for
• 29:16
  other
• 29:16
  anglers.
• 29:17
  We
• 29:17
  have
• 29:17
  a
• 29:17
  lot
• 29:17
  of
• 29:17
  bass
• 29:18
  tournaments
• 29:18
  on
• 29:18
  this
• 29:18
  lake,
• 29:20
  and
• 29:21
  sometimes
• 29:22
  they
• 29:23
  don't
• 29:23
  always
• 29:23
  respect
• 29:24
  the
• 29:24
  other
• 29:24
  anglers
• 29:25
  who
• 29:25
  are
• 29:25
  not
• 29:26
  targeting
• 29:26
  bass.
• 29:27
  I've
• 29:27
  had
• 29:28
  them
• 29:28
  blow
• 29:28
  in
• 29:28
  front
• 29:28
  of
• 29:29
  me
• 29:29
  a
• 29:29
  few
• 29:29
  times,
• 29:31
  but,
• 29:33
  you
• 29:33
  know,
• 29:33
  it's,
• 29:34
  it's,
• 29:34
  it's
• 29:34
  a
• 29:34
  really
• 29:35
  different
• 29:35
  environment.
• 29:35
  And
• 29:36
  you
• 29:36
  know,
• 29:37
  like,
• 29:40
  there,
• 29:40
  there
• 29:40
  are
• 29:41
  times
• 29:41
  you
• 29:41
  can
• 29:41
  go
• 29:41
  into
• 29:42
  a
• 29:42
  place
• 29:43
  where
• 29:44
  you
• 29:44
  have,
• 29:44
  you
• 29:45
  know,
• 29:45
  like,
• 29:45
  carp
• 29:46
  are
• 29:46
  notorious
• 29:46
  for
• 29:47
  this.
• 29:47
  I
• 29:47
  can
• 29:47
  go
• 29:48
  into
• 29:48
  a
• 29:48
  bay
• 29:48
  where
• 29:48
  I
• 29:49
  normally
• 29:49
  will
• 29:49
  find
• 29:49
  a
• 29:49
  lot
• 29:50
  of
• 29:50
  carp.
• 29:51
  And,
• 29:51
  you
• 29:51
  know,
• 29:52
  the
• 29:52
  day
• 29:52
  before
• 29:53
  there
• 29:53
  was
• 29:53
  carp
• 29:54
  everywhere.
• 29:54
  I
• 29:54
  go
• 29:54
  in
• 29:55
  there
• 29:55
  the
• 29:55
  next
• 29:55
  day,
• 29:56
  you.
• 29:56
  You
• 29:56
  can't
• 29:57
  find
• 29:57
  a
• 29:57
  fish.
• 29:57
  You
• 29:58
  can't,
• 29:58
  like,
• 29:59
  no
• 29:59
  idea
• 29:59
  where
• 29:59
  they
• 29:59
  went.
• 30:00
  You
• 30:00
  know,
• 30:01
  like,
• 30:01
  they
• 30:01
  just
• 30:01
  disappeared
• 30:02
  overnight.
• 30:04
  They
• 30:04
  may
• 30:05
  have
• 30:05
  gone
• 30:05
  into
• 30:05
  deeper
• 30:06
  water.
• 30:07
  You
• 30:07
  know,
• 30:08
  something
• 30:08
  may
• 30:08
  have
• 30:08
  happened
• 30:11
  that,
• 30:12
  you
• 30:13
  know,
• 30:13
  big
• 30:13
  question
• 30:14
  mark
• 30:15
  and
• 30:15
  one
• 30:15
  I
• 30:16
  have
• 30:16
  never
• 30:16
  figured
• 30:17
  out.
• 30:20
  But
• 30:20
  it's,
• 30:20
  it's,
• 30:21
  it's
• 30:22
  a
• 30:22
  really,
• 30:22
  it
• 30:23
  could
• 30:23
  be
• 30:23
  a
• 30:23
  very
• 30:24
  variable
• 30:25
  system.
• 30:26
  And
• 30:26
  you're
• 30:26
  also
• 30:27
  dealing
• 30:27
  with,
• 30:29
  especially
• 30:29
  when
• 30:30
  you're
• 30:30
  dealing
• 30:30
  with
• 30:30
  cooler
• 30:31
  water
• 30:31
  fish
• 30:32
  or,
• 30:32
  or
• 30:33
  sold
• 30:33
  water
• 30:34
  fish
• 30:34
  like
• 30:34
  the
• 30:34
  lake
• 30:34
  trout
• 30:35
  or
• 30:35
  pike.
• 30:36
  As
• 30:37
  that
• 30:37
  water
• 30:38
  warms
• 30:38
  up
• 30:38
  in
• 30:38
  the
• 30:38
  lake,
• 30:39
  those
• 30:39
  fish
• 30:40
  start
• 30:40
  moving
• 30:40
  deeper
• 30:41
  and
• 30:41
  they
• 30:42
  find,
• 30:42
  they
• 30:42
  move,
• 30:42
  they
• 30:43
  start
• 30:43
  using
• 30:43
  different
• 30:44
  habitats
• 30:44
  than
• 30:45
  they
• 30:45
  were
• 30:45
  using
• 30:45
  earlier
• 30:46
  in
• 30:46
  the
• 30:46
  season,
• 30:47
  and
• 30:48
  they
• 30:48
  will
• 30:48
  move
• 30:48
  back
• 30:48
  to
• 30:49
  those
• 30:49
  habitats.
• 30:50
  So
• 30:50
  you
• 30:50
  kind
• 30:50
  of
• 30:50
  have
• 30:50
  to
• 30:51
  know,
• 30:52
  you
• 30:52
  know,
• 30:53
  that
• 30:53
  progression
• 30:54
  of
• 30:54
  where
• 30:55
  they're
• 30:55
  going
• 30:55
  to
• 30:55
  head
• 30:55
  to
• 30:56
  and
• 30:56
  when
• 30:57
  they're
• 30:57
  going
• 30:57
  to
• 30:57
  head
• 30:58
  there.
• 30:59
  And
• 30:59
  that's
• 31:00
  not
• 31:00
  something
• 31:00
  that
• 31:00
  you
• 31:01
  can,
• 31:01
  you
• 31:02
  know,
• 31:02
  learn
• 31:02
  overnight.
• 31:03
  You,
• 31:03
  you
• 31:03
  really
• 31:04
  have
• 31:04
  to
• 31:04
  spend
• 31:04
  a
• 31:04
  lot
• 31:04
  of
• 31:04
  time,
• 31:05
  you
• 31:05
  know,
• 31:06
  watching
• 31:07
  and
• 31:07
  observing
• 31:08
  what's
• 31:08
  going
• 31:08
  on.
• 31:10
  And
• 31:10
  on
• 31:10
  a
• 31:10
  lake
• 31:11
  this
• 31:11
  size,
• 31:12
  you
• 31:12
  know,
• 31:12
  like,
• 31:13
  I,
• 31:13
  I
• 31:14
  consider
• 31:14
  myself
• 31:14
  a
• 31:15
  student
• 31:15
  of
• 31:15
  the
• 31:15
  lake
• 31:16
  because
• 31:16
  every
• 31:16
  time
• 31:16
  I
• 31:16
  get
• 31:17
  on
• 31:17
  that
• 31:17
  lake,
• 31:18
  I
• 31:18
  learn
• 31:18
  something
• 31:18
  new.
• 31:19
  I
• 31:19
  learned
• 31:20
  something
• 31:20
  different
• 31:21
  that
• 31:21
  I
• 31:21
  hadn't
• 31:21
  learned
• 31:21
  before.
• 31:22
  It
• 31:22
  might
• 31:23
  be
• 31:23
  a
• 31:23
  new
• 31:23
  location,
• 31:23
  it
• 31:24
  might
• 31:24
  be
• 31:24
  a
• 31:25
  new
• 31:25
  way
• 31:25
  to
• 31:25
  fish.
• 31:27
  Different
• 31:27
  parts
• 31:28
  of
• 31:28
  the
• 31:28
  lake
• 31:28
  or
• 31:28
  for
• 31:29
  different
• 31:29
  species
• 31:30
  are
• 31:31
  like,
• 31:31
  wow,
• 31:31
  I,
• 31:31
  I
• 31:32
  never
• 31:32
  realized
• 31:32
  these
• 31:33
  species
• 31:34
  were,
• 31:34
  were
• 31:34
  utilizing
• 31:35
  this
• 31:35
  habitat
• 31:36
  this
• 31:36
  time
• 31:37
  of
• 31:37
  the
• 31:37
  year.
• 31:38
  So
• 31:38
  you
• 31:39
  really
• 31:39
  kind
• 31:39
  of,
• 31:39
  you
• 31:40
  know,
• 31:40
  when
• 31:40
  you're
• 31:41
  out
• 31:41
  there,
• 31:42
  being
• 31:42
  very
• 31:42
  observant
• 31:43
  really
• 31:43
  pays
• 31:44
  off.
• 31:45
  And
• 31:46
  being
• 31:46
  willing
• 31:46
  to
• 31:46
  talk
• 31:46
  to
• 31:47
  a
• 31:47
  lot
• 31:47
  of
• 31:47
  other
• 31:47
  people
• 31:48
  and
• 31:48
  seeing
• 31:48
  what
• 31:48
  they're
• 31:49
  having
• 31:49
  for
• 31:49
  experiences.
• 31:50
  I
• 31:50
  talk
• 31:50
  to
• 31:50
  a
• 31:51
  lot
• 31:51
  of
• 31:51
  conventional
• 31:51
  anglers.
• 31:52
  I
• 31:52
  have
• 31:52
  a
• 31:52
  lot
• 31:52
  of
• 31:52
  friends
• 31:52
  who
• 31:52
  are
• 31:52
  conventional
• 31:53
  anglers,
• 31:53
  and
• 31:55
  they'll
• 31:55
  tell
• 31:56
  me
• 31:56
  a
• 31:56
  lot
• 31:56
  of
• 31:56
  stuff.
• 31:57
  They
• 31:57
  may
• 31:57
  be
• 31:57
  not.
• 31:58
  May
• 31:58
  not
• 31:58
  be
• 31:58
  going
• 31:59
  after
• 31:59
  the
• 31:59
  species
• 32:00
  that
• 32:00
  I'm
• 32:00
  going
• 32:00
  after,
• 32:01
  but
• 32:01
  they'll
• 32:01
  see
• 32:01
  them.
• 32:03
  They'll
• 32:03
  be
• 32:03
  like,
• 32:03
  oh,
• 32:03
  yeah,
• 32:04
  that
• 32:04
  bay
• 32:04
  over
• 32:04
  there
• 32:04
  is
• 32:04
  loaded
• 32:05
  with
• 32:05
  carb.
• 32:05
  Okay,
• 32:06
  great,
• 32:06
  you
• 32:06
  know,
• 32:07
  Or
• 32:07
  I've
• 32:07
  seen
• 32:07
  a
• 32:07
  lot
• 32:07
  of
• 32:08
  bowfin
• 32:08
  and
• 32:09
  X,
• 32:09
  Y
• 32:09
  or
• 32:10
  Z,
• 32:10
  and
• 32:10
  I'll
• 32:11
  go
• 32:11
  check
• 32:11
  it
• 32:11
  out.
• 32:13
  And
• 32:13
  that
• 32:13
  can
• 32:13
  be
• 32:14
  really
• 32:14
  helpful,
• 32:15
  you
• 32:16
  know.
• 32:16
  But
• 32:17
  the.
• 32:17
  The
• 32:17
  different
• 32:18
  parts
• 32:18
  of
• 32:18
  the
• 32:18
  lake
• 32:19
  are
• 32:20
  dramatically
• 32:21
  different,
• 32:21
  too.
• 32:21
  Like
• 32:22
  the
• 32:22
  broad
• 32:22
  lake
• 32:23
  that
• 32:23
  I'm
• 32:23
  near
• 32:23
  here,
• 32:24
  I'm
• 32:24
  in
• 32:24
  Charlotte,
• 32:26
  Vermont,
• 32:27
  and
• 32:28
  the
• 32:28
  broad.
• 32:29
  This
• 32:29
  is
• 32:30
  a
• 32:30
  section
• 32:30
  of
• 32:30
  the
• 32:30
  lake
• 32:30
  we
• 32:30
  call
• 32:31
  the
• 32:31
  Broad
• 32:31
  Lake.
• 32:32
  The
• 32:32
  Broad
• 32:32
  lake
• 32:33
  is,
• 32:33
  you
• 32:33
  know,
• 32:34
  big
• 32:34
  and
• 32:34
  deep.
• 32:35
  You
• 32:35
  get
• 32:36
  down
• 32:36
  to
• 32:36
  the.
• 32:36
  To
• 32:37
  the
• 32:37
  southern
• 32:37
  end
• 32:38
  of
• 32:38
  the
• 32:38
  lake
• 32:39
  in
• 32:39
  Orwell
• 32:40
  and
• 32:40
  the
• 32:40
  Whitehall
• 32:41
  area
• 32:42
  down
• 32:42
  there.
• 32:43
  It's
• 32:43
  kind
• 32:43
  of
• 32:43
  like
• 32:43
  more
• 32:44
  like
• 32:44
  a
• 32:44
  big
• 32:44
  muddy
• 32:44
  river.
• 32:46
  So
• 32:46
  it's
• 32:46
  incredibly
• 32:47
  different
• 32:48
  environment.
• 32:50
  Yeah,
• 32:52
  it's
• 32:53
  radically
• 32:53
  different
• 32:54
  than
• 32:54
  streams
• 32:55
  and
• 32:55
  rivers.
• 32:56
  Yeah,
• 32:56
  very,
• 32:56
  very
• 32:56
  interesting.
• 32:57
  And
• 32:57
  so,
• 32:57
  you
• 32:57
  know,
• 32:57
  you've
• 32:58
  got
• 32:58
  this
• 32:58
  incredibly,
• 32:59
  you
• 33:00
  know,
• 33:01
  diverse
• 33:02
  lake
• 33:02
  with
• 33:02
  all
• 33:02
  these
• 33:03
  different
• 33:03
  species.
• 33:04
  Tell
• 33:04
  me
• 33:04
  a
• 33:04
  little
• 33:04
  bit
• 33:04
  about
• 33:05
  how
• 33:05
  you,
• 33:06
  you
• 33:06
  know,
• 33:06
  map
• 33:07
  that
• 33:07
  to
• 33:07
  various
• 33:07
  angling
• 33:08
  experiences
• 33:08
  at
• 33:09
  Masterclass
• 33:09
  Angling.
• 33:11
  Well,
• 33:12
  you
• 33:12
  know,
• 33:12
  a
• 33:12
  lot
• 33:12
  of
• 33:12
  it
• 33:13
  is
• 33:13
  depending
• 33:14
  on,
• 33:14
  you
• 33:14
  know,
• 33:14
  what.
• 33:14
  What
• 33:15
  somebody
• 33:15
  wants
• 33:15
  to
• 33:15
  do
• 33:16
  or.
• 33:16
  Or
• 33:16
  the
• 33:17
  time
• 33:17
  of
• 33:17
  the
• 33:17
  year.
• 33:18
  You
• 33:18
  know,
• 33:18
  I'll
• 33:19
  get
• 33:19
  people
• 33:19
  who
• 33:19
  reach
• 33:19
  out
• 33:20
  to
• 33:20
  me,
• 33:20
  and
• 33:20
  they'll
• 33:20
  be
• 33:20
  like,
• 33:20
  hey,
• 33:21
  are.
• 33:21
  Are
• 33:21
  you
• 33:21
  guiding
• 33:22
  right
• 33:22
  now?
• 33:22
  And.
• 33:23
  And,
• 33:23
  you
• 33:23
  know,
• 33:24
  if.
• 33:24
  If.
• 33:24
  If
• 33:24
  the
• 33:25
  lake
• 33:25
  is
• 33:25
  open
• 33:26
  and
• 33:26
  I
• 33:26
  can
• 33:26
  get
• 33:26
  my
• 33:27
  boat
• 33:27
  out
• 33:27
  there,
• 33:28
  you
• 33:29
  know,
• 33:29
  generally
• 33:29
  the
• 33:29
  answer
• 33:30
  is
• 33:30
  yes,
• 33:30
  as
• 33:30
  long
• 33:30
  as
• 33:30
  the
• 33:30
  weather
• 33:31
  is
• 33:31
  conducive
• 33:32
  to
• 33:32
  get
• 33:32
  out
• 33:32
  there,
• 33:33
  you
• 33:33
  know,
• 33:34
  and
• 33:36
  lake
• 33:36
  trout
• 33:37
  are
• 33:37
  a
• 33:37
  great
• 33:37
  option
• 33:37
  in
• 33:38
  the
• 33:38
  early
• 33:38
  season.
• 33:39
  But,
• 33:40
  you
• 33:41
  know,
• 33:41
  sometimes
• 33:42
  people
• 33:42
  will
• 33:42
  come
• 33:42
  to
• 33:42
  me
• 33:42
  and
• 33:43
  they'll
• 33:43
  be
• 33:43
  like,
• 33:43
  I
• 33:43
  really
• 33:44
  want
• 33:44
  to
• 33:44
  catch
• 33:44
  a
• 33:44
  bowfin
• 33:45
  or
• 33:45
  I
• 33:45
  really
• 33:45
  want
• 33:45
  to
• 33:45
  catch
• 33:46
  a
• 33:46
  gar.
• 33:46
  And
• 33:47
  I'm
• 33:47
  like,
• 33:47
  great,
• 33:47
  let's.
• 33:48
  Let's
• 33:48
  do
• 33:48
  it
• 33:50
  and
• 33:50
  get
• 33:51
  out
• 33:51
  and
• 33:52
  teach
• 33:52
  them
• 33:52
  the
• 33:52
  techniques
• 33:53
  that
• 33:53
  they
• 33:53
  need
• 33:54
  to
• 33:55
  be
• 33:55
  able
• 33:55
  to
• 33:55
  catch
• 33:55
  those.
• 33:56
  But,
• 33:56
  you
• 33:56
  know,
• 33:57
  a
• 33:57
  lot
• 33:57
  of
• 33:57
  it
• 33:57
  is.
• 33:58
  It.
• 33:58
  I.
• 33:59
  I
• 33:59
  try
• 33:59
  to
• 33:59
  base
• 33:59
  it
• 34:00
  on,
• 34:00
  you
• 34:00
  know,
• 34:01
  not
• 34:01
  only
• 34:02
  the
• 34:02
  time
• 34:02
  of
• 34:02
  the
• 34:02
  year,
• 34:02
  but,
• 34:03
  you
• 34:03
  know,
• 34:03
  what
• 34:03
  people
• 34:04
  want
• 34:04
  to
• 34:04
  experience.
• 34:05
  And.
• 34:06
  And
• 34:06
  I'll
• 34:06
  be
• 34:07
  pretty
• 34:07
  upfront
• 34:07
  with
• 34:07
  people
• 34:08
  like,
• 34:08
  you
• 34:08
  know,
• 34:08
  here's
• 34:09
  what's.
• 34:09
  Here's
• 34:10
  what's
• 34:10
  going
• 34:10
  on
• 34:10
  right
• 34:10
  now.
• 34:11
  Or,
• 34:12
  you
• 34:12
  know,
• 34:12
  you
• 34:12
  want
• 34:12
  to
• 34:13
  catch
• 34:13
  pike.
• 34:13
  You
• 34:14
  know,
• 34:14
  this
• 34:14
  is.
• 34:15
  We're
• 34:15
  right
• 34:15
  in
• 34:15
  the
• 34:15
  middle.
• 34:16
  It's.
• 34:16
  It's
• 34:16
  August
• 34:17
  we're,
• 34:18
  this
• 34:19
  is
• 34:19
  not
• 34:19
  the
• 34:19
  time
• 34:19
  to
• 34:19
  be
• 34:20
  chasing
• 34:20
  pike.
• 34:20
  If
• 34:20
  you
• 34:21
  really
• 34:21
  want
• 34:21
  to
• 34:21
  come
• 34:21
  to
• 34:22
  see
• 34:22
  me
• 34:22
  and
• 34:22
  get
• 34:23
  into
• 34:23
  some
• 34:23
  pike,
• 34:24
  your
• 34:24
  best
• 34:25
  bet
• 34:25
  is
• 34:25
  to
• 34:25
  hit
• 34:26
  me
• 34:26
  up
• 34:26
  in
• 34:27
  late
• 34:27
  April
• 34:28
  or
• 34:28
  May
• 34:29
  into
• 34:29
  June,
• 34:30
  and
• 34:30
  then
• 34:31
  again
• 34:31
  in
• 34:32
  like
• 34:32
  October,
• 34:33
  November,
• 34:33
  even
• 34:33
  into
• 34:34
  December.
• 34:35
  That's
• 34:35
  when
• 34:35
  we
• 34:35
  have
• 34:35
  good
• 34:36
  chances
• 34:36
  at
• 34:37
  pike
• 34:37
  and
• 34:38
  some
• 34:38
  trophy
• 34:38
  fish.
• 34:39
  Some
• 34:39
  trophy
• 34:40
  pike
• 34:40
  during
• 34:40
  that,
• 34:41
  that
• 34:41
  time
• 34:41
  period,
• 34:43
  you
• 34:44
  know,
• 34:44
  I,
• 34:44
  I
• 34:45
  kind
• 34:45
  of,
• 34:47
  you
• 34:47
  know,
• 34:48
  I
• 34:50
  use
• 34:50
  the
• 34:51
  available
• 34:51
  resources
• 34:53
  for
• 34:53
  when
• 34:53
  they
• 34:54
  are
• 34:54
  coming
• 34:55
  to
• 34:55
  see
• 34:55
  me
• 34:55
  or
• 34:55
  I
• 34:56
  let
• 34:56
  them
• 34:56
  know,
• 34:57
  like,
• 34:57
  hey,
• 34:57
  you
• 34:58
  know,
• 34:58
  you
• 34:58
  want
• 34:58
  to
• 34:58
  get
• 34:58
  both
• 34:59
  in
• 35:00
  May
• 35:00
  through
• 35:01
  September
• 35:02
  is
• 35:02
  your
• 35:03
  best,
• 35:03
  best
• 35:03
  bet.
• 35:04
  So
• 35:04
  hit
• 35:04
  me
• 35:05
  up
• 35:05
  during
• 35:05
  those,
• 35:06
  that
• 35:06
  time
• 35:06
  period,
• 35:07
  you
• 35:07
  know.
• 35:08
  Yeah,
• 35:09
  it's,
• 35:09
  it's
• 35:09
  neat
• 35:09
  too,
• 35:10
  right?
• 35:10
  Cause
• 35:10
  I
• 35:10
  mean,
• 35:10
  you
• 35:10
  know,
• 35:11
  from
• 35:11
  looking
• 35:11
  at
• 35:11
  your
• 35:11
  website
• 35:12
  and
• 35:12
  doing
• 35:12
  research
• 35:12
  for
• 35:12
  the
• 35:12
  interview,
• 35:13
  I
• 35:13
  mean,
• 35:13
  you've
• 35:13
  got,
• 35:14
  do
• 35:14
  you
• 35:14
  want
• 35:14
  to
• 35:14
  wade?
• 35:15
  Do
• 35:15
  you
• 35:15
  want
• 35:15
  to
• 35:15
  sight
• 35:16
  fish?
• 35:16
  Do
• 35:16
  you
• 35:16
  want
• 35:16
  to
• 35:16
  fish
• 35:17
  from
• 35:17
  the
• 35:17
  boat?
• 35:17
  It
• 35:17
  sounds
• 35:17
  like
• 35:18
  you
• 35:18
  kind
• 35:18
  of
• 35:18
  offer
• 35:18
  it
• 35:18
  all.
• 35:20
  I,
• 35:20
  I
• 35:20
  really
• 35:20
  do.
• 35:21
  You
• 35:21
  know,
• 35:22
  I,
• 35:22
  I've,
• 35:24
  I
• 35:25
  offer
• 35:25
  muskie
• 35:26
  trips
• 35:26
  in,
• 35:26
  in
• 35:27
  muskie
• 35:28
  rivers
• 35:28
  in
• 35:28
  northern
• 35:29
  New
• 35:29
  York.
• 35:30
  I
• 35:30
  do
• 35:30
  walk
• 35:31
  and
• 35:31
  wait
• 35:31
  smallmouth
• 35:32
  trips.
• 35:32
  Like
• 35:33
  I
• 35:33
  said,
• 35:33
  I,
• 35:33
  I
• 35:33
  will
• 35:34
  do
• 35:34
  some
• 35:34
  trout
• 35:34
  trips
• 35:35
  here
• 35:35
  and
• 35:35
  there.
• 35:35
  I,
• 35:35
  I
• 35:36
  know
• 35:36
  some
• 35:36
  great
• 35:36
  trophy
• 35:37
  trout
• 35:38
  streams
• 35:38
  in
• 35:38
  Vermont
• 35:41
  and
• 35:41
  in
• 35:41
  northern
• 35:42
  New
• 35:42
  York.
• 35:42
  I've
• 35:42
  got,
• 35:42
  I've
• 35:43
  got
• 35:43
  some,
• 35:43
  you
• 35:43
  know,
• 35:44
  I
• 35:44
  spent
• 35:44
  a
• 35:44
  lot
• 35:44
  of
• 35:44
  time
• 35:45
  in,
• 35:45
  in,
• 35:45
  in
• 35:45
  northern
• 35:46
  New
• 35:46
  York.
• 35:47
  That's
• 35:47
  where
• 35:47
  I
• 35:47
  grew
• 35:47
  up.
• 35:49
  I
• 35:50
  offer
• 35:51
  landlocked
• 35:51
  salmon
• 35:52
  trips
• 35:52
  on
• 35:53
  Lake
• 35:53
  Champlain
• 35:53
  tributaries
• 35:54
  and
• 35:54
  Lake
• 35:54
  Metro,
• 35:55
  Magog
• 35:55
  tributaries,
• 35:56
  Clyde
• 35:56
  river,
• 35:58
  and
• 35:59
  you
• 35:59
  know,
• 36:00
  there's
• 36:00
  steelhead
• 36:01
  opportunities
• 36:03
  on
• 36:03
  both
• 36:03
  sides
• 36:03
  of
• 36:04
  the
• 36:04
  lake.
• 36:05
  You
• 36:06
  know,
• 36:06
  that.
• 36:06
  And
• 36:06
  that's
• 36:07
  all
• 36:07
  walk
• 36:07
  and
• 36:07
  wade.
• 36:08
  So
• 36:09
  there's,
• 36:09
  you
• 36:10
  know,
• 36:11
  I
• 36:12
  love
• 36:12
  having
• 36:13
  diversity
• 36:14
  like
• 36:14
  that
• 36:14
  at
• 36:14
  my
• 36:15
  fingertips,
• 36:16
  you
• 36:16
  know,
• 36:16
  and
• 36:17
  I've
• 36:17
  had
• 36:17
  people
• 36:18
  who,
• 36:19
  you
• 36:20
  know,
• 36:20
  I've
• 36:20
  got,
• 36:20
  I've
• 36:20
  got
• 36:21
  some
• 36:21
  clients
• 36:21
  lined
• 36:21
  up
• 36:23
  in
• 36:25
  April
• 36:26
  that
• 36:27
  want
• 36:27
  to
• 36:27
  do
• 36:28
  one
• 36:28
  day
• 36:28
  a
• 36:28
  walk
• 36:29
  away
• 36:29
  trout
• 36:29
  fishing
• 36:29
  and
• 36:30
  then
• 36:30
  they
• 36:30
  want
• 36:30
  to
• 36:30
  head
• 36:30
  out
• 36:30
  in
• 36:31
  the
• 36:31
  lake
• 36:31
  and
• 36:31
  see
• 36:31
  what
• 36:31
  they
• 36:31
  can
• 36:32
  get.
• 36:33
  I'm
• 36:33
  stoked
• 36:33
  for
• 36:34
  that.
• 36:34
  You
• 36:34
  know,
• 36:36
  I
• 36:37
  love
• 36:37
  those
• 36:37
  challenges.
• 36:38
  I
• 36:39
  love
• 36:39
  keeping
• 36:39
  things
• 36:41
  variable
• 36:41
  and
• 36:43
  really,
• 36:43
  you
• 36:43
  know,
• 36:44
  exploring
• 36:44
  the
• 36:45
  diversity
• 36:45
  of
• 36:46
  fishing
• 36:47
  opportunities
• 36:48
  that
• 36:48
  we
• 36:48
  have
• 36:49
  in
• 36:49
  Vermont
• 36:50
  and
• 36:51
  in
• 36:51
  northern
• 36:52
  New
• 36:52
  York,
• 36:52
  you
• 36:52
  know.
• 36:53
  Yeah,
• 36:53
  it's
• 36:54
  neat
• 36:54
  too,
• 36:54
  right?
• 36:54
  Because
• 36:55
  I
• 36:55
  know
• 36:55
  you're
• 36:55
  particularly
• 36:56
  proud
• 36:56
  of
• 36:56
  your
• 36:56
  bowfin
• 36:57
  fishery
• 36:57
  and
• 36:57
  I
• 36:57
  was
• 36:58
  kind
• 36:58
  of
• 36:58
  curious,
• 36:58
  you
• 36:58
  know.
• 36:59
  Yeah,
• 36:59
  obviously
• 36:59
  you're
• 37:00
  fishing
• 37:00
  for
• 37:00
  all
• 37:00
  kinds
• 37:01
  of,
• 37:01
  you
• 37:01
  know,
• 37:01
  we'll
• 37:01
  just
• 37:02
  call
• 37:02
  them
• 37:02
  fly
• 37:02
  fishing
• 37:02
  exotics,
• 37:04
  but,
• 37:04
  you
• 37:05
  know,
• 37:05
  but
• 37:05
  what
• 37:05
  attracted
• 37:06
  you
• 37:06
  to
• 37:06
  start
• 37:07
  chasing
• 37:07
  bowfin
• 37:07
  on
• 37:08
  the
• 37:08
  fly?
• 37:10
  Just
• 37:10
  to
• 37:10
  be
• 37:11
  blunt,
• 37:11
  they
• 37:11
  are
• 37:12
  the
• 37:12
  biggest
• 37:13
  badasses
• 37:14
  out
• 37:14
  there.
• 37:15
  They're
• 37:15
  really
• 37:16
  incredible
• 37:16
  fish.
• 37:17
  Like
• 37:18
  I,
• 37:18
  there
• 37:18
  is
• 37:19
  no
• 37:19
  other
• 37:19
  fish
• 37:20
  that
• 37:20
  I've
• 37:21
  encountered
• 37:22
  that
• 37:22
  will
• 37:22
  swim
• 37:23
  up
• 37:23
  to
• 37:23
  you
• 37:23
  and
• 37:23
  look
• 37:24
  you
• 37:24
  in
• 37:24
  the
• 37:24
  eyes.
• 37:26
  They
• 37:27
  are,
• 37:28
  they're
• 37:28
  very
• 37:29
  aggressive,
• 37:30
  they're
• 37:30
  very
• 37:31
  intelligent.
• 37:32
  They're
• 37:33
  a
• 37:33
  native
• 37:33
  species.
• 37:34
  They're
• 37:36
  basically
• 37:36
  unchanged
• 37:37
  for
• 37:37
  the
• 37:37
  past
• 37:37
  300
• 37:38
  million
• 37:38
  years.
• 37:39
  You
• 37:39
  know,
• 37:39
  they're
• 37:40
  not
• 37:40
  the
• 37:40
  same
• 37:41
  species
• 37:41
  in
• 37:41
  the
• 37:41
  fossil
• 37:42
  record,
• 37:42
  but
• 37:42
  if
• 37:42
  you
• 37:42
  look
• 37:43
  at
• 37:43
  a
• 37:43
  fossil
• 37:43
  record,
• 37:44
  when
• 37:44
  T.
• 37:44
  Rex
• 37:45
  is
• 37:45
  roaming
• 37:45
  the
• 37:45
  earth,
• 37:46
  a
• 37:47
  fossil
• 37:47
  bowfin
• 37:47
  from
• 37:48
  when
• 37:48
  T.
• 37:48
  Rex
• 37:48
  is
• 37:49
  roaming
• 37:49
  the
• 37:49
  earth,
• 37:50
  you
• 37:50
  can
• 37:50
  tell
• 37:50
  that
• 37:51
  it's
• 37:51
  a
• 37:51
  bowfin.
• 37:51
  And
• 37:51
  it
• 37:52
  looks
• 37:52
  almost
• 37:52
  exactly
• 37:53
  at
• 37:53
  the
• 37:53
  bowfin
• 37:53
  we
• 37:53
  got
• 37:54
  around
• 37:54
  here
• 37:54
  right
• 37:54
  now.
• 37:56
  It's
• 37:56
  pretty
• 37:56
  amazing.
• 37:57
  I
• 37:57
  mean
• 37:58
  they,
• 37:59
  the
• 38:00
  males
• 38:01
  in
• 38:01
  the
• 38:01
  springtime
• 38:02
  have
• 38:02
  incredible
• 38:03
  colors.
• 38:04
  Their
• 38:05
  fins
• 38:05
  get
• 38:05
  turquoise,
• 38:06
  they
• 38:06
  get
• 38:06
  an
• 38:06
  emerald
• 38:07
  green
• 38:09
  color
• 38:10
  on
• 38:10
  their
• 38:10
  sides.
• 38:11
  Their
• 38:11
  bellies
• 38:11
  kind
• 38:11
  of
• 38:12
  get
• 38:12
  this,
• 38:12
  this
• 38:13
  pumpkin
• 38:13
  yellow,
• 38:14
  orange.
• 38:16
  And
• 38:16
  their
• 38:16
  eye
• 38:17
  spot,
• 38:17
  they've
• 38:18
  got
• 38:18
  this
• 38:18
  orange
• 38:19
  eye
• 38:19
  spot
• 38:19
  that's
• 38:20
  almost
• 38:20
  glowing,
• 38:21
  it's
• 38:21
  so
• 38:21
  orange.
• 38:22
  And
• 38:23
  they
• 38:23
  get
• 38:23
  incredibly
• 38:27
  territorial
• 38:28
  and
• 38:28
  aggressive
• 38:29
  when
• 38:29
  they're
• 38:30
  defending
• 38:30
  their
• 38:30
  babies.
• 38:31
  I
• 38:32
  actually,
• 38:32
  I
• 38:33
  had
• 38:33
  one,
• 38:34
  I
• 38:35
  was
• 38:35
  in
• 38:35
  this
• 38:36
  backwater,
• 38:36
  I
• 38:36
  was
• 38:37
  in
• 38:37
  a
• 38:37
  flooded
• 38:38
  forest
• 38:38
  and
• 38:39
  we,
• 38:40
  we
• 38:40
  found
• 38:41
  this
• 38:41
  little
• 38:41
  male
• 38:42
  was
• 38:42
  22
• 38:42
  inches.
• 38:43
  I
• 38:43
  know
• 38:43
  because
• 38:43
  we
• 38:43
  ended
• 38:44
  up
• 38:44
  catching
• 38:44
  this
• 38:44
  thing.
• 38:45
  But
• 38:45
  it,
• 38:46
  it
• 38:46
  saw
• 38:46
  the
• 38:47
  nose
• 38:47
  of
• 38:47
  the
• 38:47
  boat
• 38:47
  come
• 38:48
  in
• 38:48
  and
• 38:49
  it
• 38:49
  literally
• 38:50
  jumped
• 38:51
  out
• 38:51
  of
• 38:51
  the
• 38:51
  water
• 38:52
  and
• 38:52
  bit
• 38:53
  the
• 38:53
  bow
• 38:53
  in
• 38:53
  this
• 38:53
  boat.
• 38:54
  And
• 38:55
  you
• 38:56
  know,
• 38:56
  like
• 38:56
  here's
• 38:57
  a
• 38:57
  22
• 38:57
  inch
• 38:57
  fish
• 38:58
  going
• 38:58
  after
• 38:58
  a
• 38:59
  15
• 38:59
  foot
• 39:00
  boat
• 39:00
  to
• 39:01
  defend
• 39:01
  its
• 39:02
  babies.
• 39:02
  You
• 39:03
  know
• 39:03
  there's,
• 39:04
  that
• 39:04
  is
• 39:05
  just
• 39:05
  really
• 39:06
  cool
• 39:07
  watching
• 39:08
  how
• 39:08
  they
• 39:09
  stock
• 39:09
  their
• 39:10
  prey,
• 39:10
  how
• 39:11
  they'll
• 39:11
  come
• 39:11
  in
• 39:13
  the
• 39:13
  dorsal
• 39:14
  fin.
• 39:14
  You
• 39:15
  know,
• 39:15
  it,
• 39:15
  it
• 39:16
  just
• 39:16
  this,
• 39:16
  it
• 39:17
  undulates
• 39:19
  and,
• 39:20
  and
• 39:20
  you
• 39:20
  can
• 39:20
  really
• 39:21
  tell
• 39:21
  a
• 39:21
  lot
• 39:21
  about
• 39:22
  how
• 39:22
  that
• 39:23
  fish
• 39:23
  is
• 39:25
  behaving
• 39:25
  and
• 39:25
  what
• 39:26
  it's
• 39:26
  thinking
• 39:26
  by
• 39:27
  what
• 39:27
  that,
• 39:27
  what
• 39:28
  that
• 39:28
  dorsal
• 39:28
  fin
• 39:29
  is
• 39:29
  doing
• 39:30
  and
• 39:30
  the
• 39:30
  way
• 39:30
  they
• 39:31
  do
• 39:31
  the
• 39:31
  smash
• 39:31
  and
• 39:32
  grab
• 39:33
  when
• 39:33
  they're,
• 39:34
  when
• 39:34
  they're
• 39:34
  in
• 39:34
  close
• 39:35
  because
• 39:35
  it's,
• 39:36
  it.
• 39:36
  Bowfin
• 39:37
  fishing
• 39:37
  is
• 39:37
  almost
• 39:38
  all
• 39:39
  sight
• 39:39
  fishing.
• 39:40
  It
• 39:40
  is,
• 39:41
  it's
• 39:41
  not
• 39:41
  particularly
• 39:42
  difficult
• 39:42
  fly
• 39:43
  fishing.
• 39:43
  It's
• 39:43
  really
• 39:43
  dapping
• 39:45
  or,
• 39:45
  or
• 39:45
  jigging
• 39:47
  with
• 39:47
  a
• 39:47
  fly
• 39:47
  rod.
• 39:48
  But
• 39:49
  you're
• 39:49
  hunting
• 39:49
  fish.
• 39:50
  I'm
• 39:51
  on
• 39:51
  the
• 39:51
  polling
• 39:51
  platform,
• 39:52
  I
• 39:52
  have
• 39:52
  my
• 39:52
  client
• 39:52
  in
• 39:53
  the
• 39:53
  front.
• 39:53
  And
• 39:53
  you're
• 39:54
  looking
• 39:54
  for
• 39:54
  these
• 39:55
  fish
• 39:56
  and,
• 39:57
  and,
• 39:58
  and
• 39:58
  if
• 39:58
  the
• 39:58
  fish,
• 39:59
  you
• 39:59
  know,
• 40:00
  bites
• 40:00
  the
• 40:00
  fly
• 40:02
  and
• 40:02
  gets
• 40:03
  off
• 40:04
  it,
• 40:05
  it's
• 40:05
  not
• 40:05
  gone.
• 40:06
  I've
• 40:06
  had
• 40:07
  them,
• 40:08
  I
• 40:08
  see
• 40:08
  this
• 40:08
  all
• 40:08
  the
• 40:09
  time.
• 40:09
  They'll,
• 40:10
  they'll
• 40:10
  grab
• 40:10
  the
• 40:10
  fly,
• 40:11
  they'll
• 40:11
  feel
• 40:11
  the
• 40:11
  hook,
• 40:12
  they'll
• 40:12
  shoot
• 40:13
  off,
• 40:13
  they'll
• 40:14
  turn
• 40:14
  around
• 40:14
  and
• 40:15
  they'll
• 40:15
  come
• 40:15
  in
• 40:15
  from
• 40:15
  a
• 40:15
  different
• 40:16
  angle
• 40:16
  to
• 40:16
  find
• 40:17
  out
• 40:17
  what
• 40:17
  that
• 40:17
  was.
• 40:18
  And
• 40:18
  you
• 40:18
  Get
• 40:19
  a
• 40:19
  second
• 40:19
  shot
• 40:19
  at
• 40:20
  them.
• 40:22
  I
• 40:22
  mean
• 40:23
  that
• 40:24
  really
• 40:25
  cool.
• 40:25
  I
• 40:25
  mean
• 40:26
  my,
• 40:26
  my
• 40:26
  very
• 40:26
  first
• 40:27
  bowfin
• 40:27
  guiding
• 40:28
  experience,
• 40:29
  I
• 40:30
  was
• 40:30
  in
• 40:30
  my
• 40:30
  canoe,
• 40:31
  we
• 40:31
  were
• 40:31
  going
• 40:31
  through
• 40:32
  this
• 40:32
  backwater
• 40:32
  and
• 40:33
  these
• 40:33
  lily
• 40:33
  pads
• 40:34
  and
• 40:34
  I
• 40:35
  hit
• 40:35
  a
• 40:35
  bowfin
• 40:37
  and
• 40:37
  the
• 40:37
  thing
• 40:37
  shot
• 40:38
  off
• 40:38
  and
• 40:38
  I
• 40:38
  washed
• 40:39
  it
• 40:39
  and
• 40:39
  turned
• 40:39
  around
• 40:40
  and
• 40:40
  came
• 40:40
  back
• 40:41
  and
• 40:41
  looked
• 40:42
  at
• 40:42
  the
• 40:42
  canoe
• 40:42
  to
• 40:43
  see
• 40:43
  what
• 40:43
  hit
• 40:43
  it.
• 40:44
  My
• 40:44
  client
• 40:46
  got
• 40:47
  a
• 40:47
  fly
• 40:47
  in
• 40:47
  front
• 40:47
  of
• 40:47
  it.
• 40:48
  It
• 40:48
  grabbed
• 40:48
  it.
• 40:49
  He's
• 40:50
  got
• 40:50
  it
• 40:50
  on
• 40:51
  and
• 40:51
  it
• 40:52
  circles
• 40:52
  around
• 40:53
  some
• 40:53
  lily
• 40:53
  stems,
• 40:54
  gets
• 40:55
  off.
• 40:56
  He
• 40:56
  gets
• 40:56
  to
• 40:56
  fly
• 40:57
  out
• 40:57
  of
• 40:57
  the
• 40:57
  lily
• 40:57
  stems.
• 40:58
  The
• 40:58
  fish
• 40:59
  comes
• 40:59
  back
• 40:59
  and
• 40:59
  he
• 41:00
  looks
• 41:00
  at
• 41:00
  the
• 41:00
  second
• 41:00
  time
• 41:01
  and
• 41:01
  it
• 41:01
  gets
• 41:01
  off
• 41:01
  a
• 41:02
  second
• 41:02
  time.
• 41:04
  Like
• 41:04
  what
• 41:05
  other
• 41:05
  fish
• 41:06
  does
• 41:07
  anything
• 41:07
  like
• 41:08
  that?
• 41:09
  You
• 41:09
  know,
• 41:10
  it's,
• 41:10
  they're
• 41:11
  really
• 41:11
  cool
• 41:11
  and,
• 41:12
  and
• 41:14
  the,
• 41:15
  they're
• 41:15
  very
• 41:15
  long
• 41:16
  lived
• 41:16
  and
• 41:17
  like
• 41:17
  I
• 41:17
  said,
• 41:17
  they're
• 41:17
  really
• 41:18
  smart.
• 41:18
  You
• 41:18
  know,
• 41:18
  I,
• 41:19
  I
• 41:19
  will
• 41:19
  splash
• 41:20
  the
• 41:20
  water
• 41:21
  and
• 41:21
  get
• 41:21
  them
• 41:21
  to
• 41:21
  come
• 41:22
  in
• 41:22
  because
• 41:22
  they're
• 41:23
  so
• 41:23
  curious
• 41:24
  and
• 41:25
  a
• 41:25
  lot
• 41:25
  of
• 41:25
  people
• 41:25
  around
• 41:26
  here
• 41:26
  think
• 41:26
  that,
• 41:27
  oh,
• 41:27
  you're
• 41:27
  splashing
• 41:28
  the
• 41:28
  water
• 41:28
  and
• 41:29
  the
• 41:29
  bowfin
• 41:29
  come
• 41:30
  in.
• 41:30
  They're
• 41:30
  really
• 41:31
  dumb.
• 41:32
  It's
• 41:32
  the
• 41:32
  opposite.
• 41:33
  They,
• 41:33
  they
• 41:34
  hear
• 41:34
  that
• 41:34
  splashing.
• 41:35
  They
• 41:35
  think
• 41:35
  something
• 41:35
  is
• 41:36
  wounded
• 41:36
  and
• 41:36
  they
• 41:37
  want
• 41:37
  to
• 41:37
  come
• 41:37
  in
• 41:37
  to
• 41:38
  see
• 41:38
  if
• 41:38
  they
• 41:38
  have
• 41:38
  an
• 41:39
  opportunity
• 41:39
  to
• 41:39
  eat
• 41:40
  something.
• 41:41
  That's,
• 41:42
  you
• 41:42
  know,
• 41:42
  that
• 41:43
  curiosity
• 41:43
  is,
• 41:44
  is
• 41:44
  intelligence.
• 41:45
  So
• 41:45
  these
• 41:45
  are
• 41:46
  an
• 41:46
  incredibly
• 41:47
  intelligent
• 41:47
  fish
• 41:49
  and
• 41:50
  more
• 41:50
  than
• 41:50
  willing
• 41:50
  to
• 41:51
  take
• 41:51
  a
• 41:51
  fly.
• 41:52
  But
• 41:52
  if
• 41:53
  you
• 41:53
  really
• 41:53
  keep
• 41:53
  hitting
• 41:54
  the
• 41:54
  same
• 41:55
  area
• 41:55
  again
• 41:56
  and
• 41:56
  again
• 41:56
  and
• 41:56
  again
• 41:57
  with
• 41:57
  the
• 41:57
  same
• 41:57
  flies
• 41:58
  and
• 41:58
  the
• 41:58
  same
• 41:58
  techniques,
• 41:59
  they
• 41:59
  pick
• 41:59
  up
• 41:59
  on
• 41:59
  it.
• 42:00
  They
• 42:00
  know
• 42:00
  what's
• 42:00
  going
• 42:01
  on.
• 42:01
  So
• 42:01
  you
• 42:01
  have
• 42:01
  to
• 42:02
  vary
• 42:02
  what
• 42:02
  you're
• 42:02
  doing,
• 42:04
  which
• 42:05
  to
• 42:05
  me
• 42:05
  keeps
• 42:06
  things
• 42:06
  more
• 42:06
  exciting.
• 42:08
  You
• 42:08
  know,
• 42:08
  I,
• 42:09
  I've,
• 42:09
  I've
• 42:10
  gone
• 42:10
  on
• 42:10
  record
• 42:10
  saying
• 42:11
  this
• 42:11
  before.
• 42:12
  I
• 42:12
  consider
• 42:12
  bowfin
• 42:14
  the
• 42:14
  most
• 42:14
  American
• 42:15
  game
• 42:15
  fish
• 42:15
  out
• 42:16
  there
• 42:16
  because
• 42:17
  they
• 42:17
  are
• 42:17
  so
• 42:18
  unchanged
• 42:19
  for
• 42:19
  so
• 42:19
  long.
• 42:21
  They're,
• 42:22
  they're
• 42:22
  incredible.
• 42:22
  And
• 42:23
  if
• 42:23
  you've
• 42:23
  never
• 42:23
  fished
• 42:23
  from
• 42:23
  both
• 42:24
  end,
• 42:25
  you
• 42:25
  really
• 42:25
  need
• 42:26
  to
• 42:27
  because
• 42:28
  it's
• 42:28
  a
• 42:28
  very,
• 42:29
  very
• 42:29
  cool
• 42:31
  fish
• 42:32
  to,
• 42:32
  to
• 42:33
  target.
• 42:34
  Yeah,
• 42:34
  that's
• 42:34
  very
• 42:34
  neat.
• 42:35
  And
• 42:35
  so
• 42:35
  tell
• 42:35
  me
• 42:36
  a
• 42:36
  little
• 42:36
  bit
• 42:36
  about
• 42:36
  kind
• 42:36
  of
• 42:37
  like
• 42:37
  your
• 42:37
  rod
• 42:37
  reel
• 42:38
  line
• 42:38
  set
• 42:39
  up
• 42:39
  and
• 42:39
  then
• 42:40
  sounds
• 42:40
  like
• 42:40
  you
• 42:40
  got
• 42:40
  to
• 42:40
  kind
• 42:41
  of
• 42:41
  change
• 42:41
  the
• 42:41
  fly
• 42:41
  situation
• 42:42
  up
• 42:42
  because
• 42:42
  they
• 42:42
  kind
• 42:43
  of
• 42:43
  get
• 42:43
  dialed
• 42:43
  in,
• 42:43
  right?
• 42:45
  They
• 42:45
  do,
• 42:45
  they
• 42:46
  do.
• 42:47
  So
• 42:49
  I,
• 42:49
  I've
• 42:50
  used
• 42:50
  a
• 42:50
  lot
• 42:50
  of
• 42:50
  different
• 42:51
  rods.
• 42:52
  Seven
• 42:52
  and
• 42:52
  eight
• 42:53
  weight
• 42:53
  tends
• 42:53
  to
• 42:53
  be
• 42:54
  the,
• 42:54
  this,
• 42:54
  the
• 42:55
  sweet
• 42:55
  spot.
• 42:55
  I
• 42:55
  like
• 42:55
  to
• 42:56
  use
• 42:56
  a
• 42:56
  stiffer
• 42:56
  rod.
• 42:58
  I
• 42:58
  think,
• 42:59
  you
• 42:59
  know,
• 42:59
  at
• 42:59
  this
• 43:00
  point
• 43:01
  the
• 43:01
  rod,
• 43:02
  my
• 43:02
  go
• 43:02
  to
• 43:02
  rod
• 43:03
  right
• 43:03
  now
• 43:04
  is,
• 43:04
  is
• 43:05
  the,
• 43:07
  the
• 43:07
  8,
• 43:07
  5,
• 43:08
  7
• 43:08
  weight
• 43:09
  helios.
• 43:10
  It's
• 43:11
  a
• 43:11
  short,
• 43:11
  stiff
• 43:12
  rod
• 43:12
  and
• 43:12
  it,
• 43:13
  and
• 43:13
  it
• 43:13
  really
• 43:13
  gets
• 43:14
  the
• 43:14
  job
• 43:14
  done
• 43:14
  very
• 43:15
  well.
• 43:15
  You
• 43:15
  can,
• 43:15
  you
• 43:16
  can
• 43:16
  cross
• 43:16
  that
• 43:16
  fish's
• 43:17
  eyes
• 43:17
  with
• 43:18
  the
• 43:18
  hook
• 43:18
  set
• 43:20
  line
• 43:20
  really
• 43:20
  isn't
• 43:20
  that
• 43:21
  important.
• 43:22
  Any,
• 43:22
  any
• 43:22
  floating
• 43:23
  line
• 43:23
  will
• 43:23
  do.
• 43:25
  The
• 43:25
  leader
• 43:25
  is
• 43:26
  very
• 43:26
  short.
• 43:27
  I
• 43:28
  usually
• 43:28
  just
• 43:28
  do
• 43:29
  a
• 43:32
  short,
• 43:32
  like
• 43:32
  maybe
• 43:33
  a
• 43:33
  foot
• 43:34
  of
• 43:35
  or
• 43:35
  so
• 43:36
  of
• 43:36
  like
• 43:36
  20
• 43:36
  pounds
• 43:38
  fluorocarbon.
• 43:39
  And
• 43:39
  then
• 43:39
  I
• 43:40
  will
• 43:40
  tie
• 43:40
  off
• 43:43
  16
• 43:43
  pound
• 43:44
  to
• 43:44
  that,
• 43:45
  about
• 43:45
  three
• 43:45
  foot
• 43:46
  piece
• 43:46
  of
• 43:46
  that.
• 43:46
  So
• 43:46
  you
• 43:46
  only
• 43:47
  have
• 43:47
  a
• 43:47
  like
• 43:47
  a
• 43:47
  four
• 43:48
  foot
• 43:48
  leader.
• 43:48
  You
• 43:48
  really
• 43:49
  don't
• 43:49
  need
• 43:49
  a
• 43:49
  very
• 43:49
  long
• 43:50
  leader.
• 43:51
  A
• 43:51
  long
• 43:51
  leader
• 43:52
  is
• 43:52
  actually
• 43:53
  detrimental
• 43:54
  to
• 43:54
  good
• 43:54
  presentation
• 43:55
  when,
• 43:56
  when
• 43:56
  you're,
• 43:56
  when
• 43:57
  you're
• 43:57
  doing
• 43:57
  the
• 43:57
  style
• 43:58
  of
• 43:58
  fishing
• 43:58
  that
• 43:59
  I
• 43:59
  do
• 43:59
  for
• 43:59
  these
• 43:59
  guys
• 44:00
  because
• 44:00
  you
• 44:00
  only
• 44:01
  have
• 44:01
  a
• 44:01
  couple
• 44:01
  inches
• 44:02
  of
• 44:03
  fly
• 44:03
  line
• 44:03
  out
• 44:04
  from
• 44:04
  your
• 44:04
  rod
• 44:04
  tip.
• 44:05
  You
• 44:05
  know,
• 44:05
  like
• 44:05
  I
• 44:05
  said,
• 44:06
  you're
• 44:06
  really
• 44:06
  dapping
• 44:07
  and,
• 44:08
  and
• 44:08
  to
• 44:08
  properly
• 44:08
  present
• 44:09
  that
• 44:09
  fly
• 44:09
  and
• 44:09
  to
• 44:10
  be
• 44:10
  able
• 44:10
  to
• 44:10
  get
• 44:10
  a
• 44:10
  good
• 44:10
  hook
• 44:11
  set
• 44:11
  you
• 44:11
  actually
• 44:12
  have
• 44:12
  to
• 44:12
  have
• 44:12
  the
• 44:13
  rod
• 44:13
  pretty
• 44:14
  much
• 44:14
  perpendicular
• 44:15
  to
• 44:15
  the
• 44:15
  water,
• 44:15
  parallel
• 44:16
  to
• 44:16
  the
• 44:16
  water.
• 44:16
  You
• 44:16
  want
• 44:17
  to
• 44:17
  have
• 44:17
  that
• 44:17
  rod
• 44:18
  parallel
• 44:18
  or
• 44:18
  parallel
• 44:19
  to
• 44:19
  the
• 44:19
  water
• 44:20
  because
• 44:20
  you're
• 44:21
  going
• 44:21
  to
• 44:21
  set
• 44:21
  the
• 44:22
  hook
• 44:22
  kind
• 44:23
  of
• 44:25
  keeping
• 44:25
  the
• 44:25
  rod
• 44:26
  flat
• 44:28
  and
• 44:29
  parallel
• 44:29
  to
• 44:29
  the
• 44:29
  water.
• 44:30
  So
• 44:30
  you
• 44:30
  kind
• 44:30
  of
• 44:30
  got
• 44:31
  this,
• 44:31
  this
• 44:32
  upward
• 44:32
  stroke.
• 44:33
  You
• 44:33
  don't
• 44:33
  want
• 44:33
  to
• 44:34
  set
• 44:34
  back
• 44:34
  with
• 44:35
  your
• 44:35
  wrist.
• 44:37
  And
• 44:38
  when
• 44:38
  you
• 44:38
  sit
• 44:38
  back
• 44:38
  with
• 44:39
  your
• 44:39
  wrist
• 44:39
  it's
• 44:39
  a
• 44:39
  lot
• 44:40
  like
• 44:40
  trying
• 44:40
  to
• 44:41
  set
• 44:41
  a
• 44:41
  hook
• 44:41
  into
• 44:41
  a
• 44:41
  concrete
• 44:42
  block.
• 44:42
  And
• 44:43
  I've
• 44:43
  had
• 44:43
  three
• 44:44
  rods
• 44:44
  that
• 44:45
  have
• 44:45
  broken
• 44:46
  right
• 44:46
  in
• 44:47
  front
• 44:47
  of
• 44:47
  the
• 44:47
  grip
• 44:48
  because
• 44:48
  of
• 44:48
  just,
• 44:49
  you
• 44:49
  know,
• 44:50
  the
• 44:50
  way
• 44:50
  you're
• 44:50
  setting
• 44:51
  the
• 44:51
  hook
• 44:51
  like
• 44:51
  that.
• 44:54
  As
• 44:54
  far
• 44:55
  as
• 44:55
  flies,
• 44:55
  I
• 44:56
  have
• 44:56
  kind
• 44:56
  of
• 44:57
  a
• 44:57
  number
• 44:57
  of
• 44:57
  my
• 44:57
  own
• 44:58
  patterns
• 44:59
  that
• 44:59
  I
• 44:59
  use
• 45:00
  for
• 45:00
  them.
• 45:01
  They're,
• 45:01
  they're
• 45:03
  for
• 45:03
  the
• 45:04
  most
• 45:04
  part
• 45:04
  fairly
• 45:04
  heavily
• 45:05
  weighted.
• 45:06
  They're
• 45:06
  kind
• 45:06
  of
• 45:07
  really
• 45:07
  buggy,
• 45:08
  buggerish
• 45:10
  flies.
• 45:11
  I've
• 45:11
  got
• 45:11
  one
• 45:11
  I
• 45:12
  call
• 45:12
  the
• 45:12
  Mr.
• 45:12
  Beauregard
• 45:13
  and
• 45:13
  I
• 45:13
  got
• 45:14
  another
• 45:14
  one
• 45:14
  I
• 45:14
  call
• 45:14
  Mr.
• 45:15
  Bo
• 45:15
  Squiggles.
• 45:16
  I've
• 45:17
  also
• 45:17
  had
• 45:17
  very
• 45:18
  good
• 45:18
  luck
• 45:18
  with
• 45:18
  crayfish
• 45:19
  patterns.
• 45:20
  Changer
• 45:21
  craws
• 45:21
  are
• 45:22
  fantastic
• 45:23
  certain
• 45:23
  times
• 45:23
  of
• 45:24
  the
• 45:24
  year
• 45:24
  when
• 45:25
  they
• 45:25
  get
• 45:25
  really,
• 45:26
  when
• 45:26
  the
• 45:26
  boat
• 45:26
  can
• 45:27
  get
• 45:27
  really
• 45:27
  finicky
• 45:27
  in
• 45:27
  mid
• 45:28
  summer.
• 45:28
  I
• 45:29
  find
• 45:29
  that
• 45:29
  the,
• 45:30
  the,
• 45:30
  the
• 45:30
  changer
• 45:31
  cross
• 45:31
  can
• 45:32
  be
• 45:32
  more
• 45:32
  difficult
• 45:33
  to
• 45:33
  get
• 45:33
  a
• 45:33
  hook
• 45:33
  set
• 45:34
  with.
• 45:34
  At
• 45:34
  that
• 45:35
  point
• 45:35
  you
• 45:35
  really,
• 45:37
  you
• 45:37
  really
• 45:37
  want
• 45:37
  to
• 45:37
  have
• 45:38
  a
• 45:38
  good,
• 45:39
  you
• 45:39
  want
• 45:40
  to
• 45:40
  get,
• 45:40
  you
• 45:40
  have
• 45:41
  your
• 45:41
  better
• 45:41
  opportunities
• 45:41
  with
• 45:42
  the
• 45:42
  changer
• 45:42
  cross
• 45:43
  earlier
• 45:43
  in
• 45:43
  the
• 45:44
  season
• 45:44
  when
• 45:44
  they're
• 45:45
  really
• 45:46
  a
• 45:46
  lot
• 45:46
  more
• 45:47
  aggressive
• 45:47
  with
• 45:48
  their,
• 45:48
  with
• 45:48
  their
• 45:48
  takes.
• 45:50
  But
• 45:50
  they
• 45:50
  will,
• 45:51
  they
• 45:51
  will
• 45:51
  take
• 45:51
  carp
• 45:52
  flies
• 45:53
  they'll
• 45:54
  take,
• 45:56
  they'll
• 45:56
  take
• 45:56
  almost
• 45:57
  anything
• 45:57
  to
• 45:58
  be
• 45:58
  very
• 45:58
  honest
• 45:58
  with
• 45:59
  you.
• 46:01
  But
• 46:03
  if
• 46:03
  you've
• 46:04
  got
• 46:04
  the
• 46:04
  wrong
• 46:04
  hook,
• 46:05
  it
• 46:05
  gives
• 46:06
  the
• 46:06
  fishing
• 46:06
  advantage
• 46:08
  when
• 46:08
  you're
• 46:08
  fishing
• 46:09
  with
• 46:09
  bow.
• 46:09
  Fishing
• 46:10
  for
• 46:10
  bowfin,
• 46:11
  a
• 46:11
  short
• 46:11
  shank
• 46:11
  heavy
• 46:12
  wire
• 46:12
  hook
• 46:13
  is
• 46:13
  much
• 46:14
  more
• 46:14
  effective.
• 46:14
  In
• 46:15
  getting
• 46:15
  a
• 46:15
  hook
• 46:15
  set
• 46:15
  than
• 46:15
  a
• 46:16
  laundry
• 46:16
  shank
• 46:16
  hook.
• 46:17
  And
• 46:18
  if
• 46:18
  you
• 46:19
  have
• 46:19
  a
• 46:19
  longer
• 46:19
  shank
• 46:19
  hook
• 46:20
  and
• 46:20
  you're
• 46:20
  playing
• 46:20
  those
• 46:21
  fish,
• 46:22
  that,
• 46:22
  that
• 46:22
  hook
• 46:23
  acts
• 46:23
  more
• 46:23
  as
• 46:24
  a
• 46:24
  lever
• 46:25
  and
• 46:25
  their
• 46:25
  mouth
• 46:25
  is
• 46:26
  just
• 46:26
  almost
• 46:26
  all
• 46:27
  bone
• 46:27
  and
• 46:27
  teeth.
• 46:28
  And
• 46:30
  if
• 46:30
  you
• 46:31
  have
• 46:31
  any
• 46:31
  kind
• 46:31
  of
• 46:31
  lever
• 46:32
  like
• 46:32
  that
• 46:32
  and
• 46:32
  the
• 46:32
  way
• 46:33
  these
• 46:33
  guys
• 46:33
  fight,
• 46:34
  they,
• 46:35
  they
• 46:35
  thrash
• 46:35
  around
• 46:36
  a
• 46:36
  lot.
• 46:37
  A
• 46:37
  longer
• 46:37
  shank
• 46:38
  hook
• 46:38
  will
• 46:38
  work
• 46:38
  itself
• 46:39
  out
• 46:39
  a
• 46:39
  lot
• 46:40
  easier
• 46:40
  than
• 46:41
  the,
• 46:41
  the
• 46:41
  short
• 46:41
  shank
• 46:42
  hooks.
• 46:43
  So
• 46:45
  it's,
• 46:45
  it's,
• 46:46
  it's
• 46:46
  a
• 46:47
  lot
• 46:47
  of
• 46:47
  fun.
• 46:48
  I
• 46:48
  try
• 46:49
  to
• 46:49
  keep
• 46:49
  the,
• 46:49
  the
• 46:49
  fight
• 46:50
  pretty
• 46:51
  short
• 46:51
  and
• 46:51
  sweet,
• 46:51
  you
• 46:51
  know,
• 46:52
  using
• 46:52
  really
• 46:52
  stout
• 46:53
  leader.
• 46:54
  When,
• 46:55
  when
• 46:55
  somebody
• 46:55
  hooks
• 46:56
  into
• 46:56
  one
• 46:56
  of
• 46:56
  these
• 46:56
  things,
• 46:56
  I,
• 46:57
  I
• 46:57
  come
• 46:57
  flying
• 46:57
  down
• 46:58
  from
• 46:58
  the,
• 46:59
  the,
• 46:59
  the
• 46:59
  pulling
• 47:00
  platform
• 47:00
  and
• 47:00
  grab
• 47:01
  a
• 47:01
  net
• 47:01
  and
• 47:01
  scoop
• 47:02
  them
• 47:02
  up
• 47:02
  as
• 47:02
  fast
• 47:02
  as
• 47:02
  I
• 47:03
  can
• 47:03
  because
• 47:04
  if
• 47:04
  they
• 47:04
  get
• 47:04
  into
• 47:04
  the
• 47:04
  weeds,
• 47:05
  they
• 47:05
  will
• 47:05
  break
• 47:05
  you
• 47:06
  off.
• 47:07
  I
• 47:07
  carry
• 47:07
  a
• 47:08
  lot
• 47:08
  of,
• 47:08
  I
• 47:08
  carry
• 47:08
  a
• 47:08
  lot
• 47:09
  of
• 47:09
  bowfin
• 47:09
  flies
• 47:10
  because
• 47:10
  there
• 47:10
  are
• 47:10
  a
• 47:10
  lot
• 47:11
  of
• 47:11
  break
• 47:11
  offs.
• 47:12
  Yeah.
• 47:13
  So
• 47:13
  it's
• 47:13
  not
• 47:14
  exactly
• 47:14
  the
• 47:14
  no
• 47:15
  changer
• 47:15
  left
• 47:15
  behind
• 47:16
  mentality.
• 47:17
  No,
• 47:18
  no.
• 47:18
  I
• 47:19
  mean,
• 47:19
  you
• 47:19
  know,
• 47:20
  it's,
• 47:20
  it
• 47:20
  sucks
• 47:20
  to
• 47:21
  lose
• 47:21
  a
• 47:21
  changer
• 47:21
  to
• 47:22
  these
• 47:22
  guys,
• 47:22
  but
• 47:22
  that,
• 47:22
  you
• 47:23
  know,
• 47:23
  that's
• 47:23
  kind
• 47:23
  of
• 47:24
  part
• 47:24
  of
• 47:24
  the
• 47:24
  process.
• 47:25
  Right.
• 47:26
  You
• 47:26
  know,
• 47:27
  it's,
• 47:27
  it
• 47:28
  does
• 47:28
  happen
• 47:28
  from
• 47:28
  time
• 47:28
  to
• 47:29
  time.
• 47:30
  One
• 47:30
  thing
• 47:30
  that
• 47:30
  I,
• 47:31
  I
• 47:31
  will
• 47:31
  say
• 47:32
  and,
• 47:32
  and
• 47:32
  I've
• 47:32
  heard
• 47:33
  people,
• 47:33
  you
• 47:33
  know,
• 47:34
  say
• 47:34
  that
• 47:34
  when
• 47:35
  you're
• 47:35
  fishing
• 47:35
  bowfin,
• 47:35
  you
• 47:36
  got
• 47:36
  to
• 47:36
  use
• 47:36
  a,
• 47:37
  you
• 47:37
  got
• 47:37
  to
• 47:37
  use
• 47:37
  a
• 47:37
  wire
• 47:37
  leader.
• 47:38
  And
• 47:38
  nothing
• 47:38
  is
• 47:39
  further
• 47:39
  from
• 47:39
  the
• 47:39
  truth.
• 47:40
  Yes,
• 47:41
  they
• 47:41
  do
• 47:41
  have
• 47:41
  a
• 47:41
  mouthful
• 47:42
  of
• 47:42
  teeth
• 47:42
  and
• 47:43
  you
• 47:43
  do
• 47:43
  not
• 47:44
  want
• 47:44
  to
• 47:44
  get
• 47:44
  your,
• 47:44
  your
• 47:45
  fingers
• 47:45
  in
• 47:45
  there.
• 47:46
  They
• 47:46
  will
• 47:47
  shred
• 47:47
  you.
• 47:48
  However,
• 47:49
  their
• 47:49
  teeth
• 47:50
  are
• 47:50
  conical
• 47:51
  teeth
• 47:52
  similar
• 47:53
  to
• 47:53
  like
• 47:53
  what
• 47:53
  a
• 47:54
  walleye
• 47:54
  has.
• 47:56
  They're
• 47:56
  not
• 47:56
  cutting
• 47:57
  teeth
• 47:57
  like
• 47:57
  a
• 47:57
  pike
• 47:58
  or
• 47:59
  a
• 47:59
  snakehead.
• 48:00
  So
• 48:00
  you
• 48:00
  don't
• 48:00
  necessarily
• 48:01
  have
• 48:01
  to
• 48:01
  have
• 48:02
  wire.
• 48:03
  Well,
• 48:04
  you
• 48:04
  don't
• 48:04
  need
• 48:04
  wire.
• 48:05
  And
• 48:05
  actually
• 48:05
  I
• 48:06
  think
• 48:06
  wire
• 48:07
  is,
• 48:08
  doesn't
• 48:08
  allow
• 48:08
  you
• 48:08
  to
• 48:09
  give
• 48:09
  as
• 48:09
  good
• 48:09
  a
• 48:09
  presentation
• 48:10
  as
• 48:10
  you
• 48:10
  will
• 48:11
  with
• 48:11
  just
• 48:11
  fluorocarbon.
• 48:14
  So,
• 48:14
  you
• 48:14
  know,
• 48:15
  wire
• 48:15
  is
• 48:15
  not
• 48:15
  necessary
• 48:16
  for
• 48:16
  their
• 48:17
  type
• 48:17
  of
• 48:17
  teeth.
• 48:18
  Got
• 48:19
  it.
• 48:19
  And
• 48:19
  so,
• 48:19
  you
• 48:19
  know,
• 48:19
  Drew,
• 48:20
  what's
• 48:21
  a
• 48:21
  day
• 48:21
  like,
• 48:21
  you
• 48:21
  know,
• 48:21
  either
• 48:22
  waiting
• 48:22
  or
• 48:22
  on
• 48:22
  the
• 48:22
  boat
• 48:22
  with
• 48:23
  you?
• 48:25
  Well,
• 48:26
  you
• 48:26
  know,
• 48:27
  it
• 48:28
  really
• 48:28
  depends
• 48:28
  on
• 48:29
  what
• 48:29
  time
• 48:29
  of
• 48:29
  the
• 48:29
  year
• 48:30
  it
• 48:30
  is.
• 48:31
  You
• 48:31
  know,
• 48:32
  with
• 48:32
  lake
• 48:32
  trout
• 48:33
  in
• 48:33
  the
• 48:33
  fall,
• 48:33
  it
• 48:34
  could
• 48:34
  start
• 48:34
  at
• 48:35
  3am
• 48:36
  going
• 48:36
  out
• 48:37
  and
• 48:37
  chasing
• 48:37
  them
• 48:38
  for
• 48:38
  dawn
• 48:38
  hours
• 48:39
  using
• 48:39
  glow
• 48:40
  in
• 48:40
  the
• 48:40
  dark
• 48:40
  flies
• 48:42
  in
• 48:43
  my
• 48:43
  boat.
• 48:45
  You
• 48:46
  know,
• 48:46
  it's,
• 48:48
  I'm
• 48:49
  really
• 48:50
  trying
• 48:50
  to
• 48:51
  help
• 48:51
  people
• 48:51
  dial
• 48:52
  in
• 48:52
  their,
• 48:53
  their
• 48:53
  cast
• 48:54
  and
• 48:54
  presentation
• 48:56
  to
• 48:57
  the
• 48:57
  fish
• 48:57
  that
• 48:58
  we
• 48:58
  are
• 48:58
  fishing
• 48:59
  for.
• 49:00
  I
• 49:00
  also
• 49:01
  like
• 49:01
  to
• 49:01
  make
• 49:02
  sure
• 49:02
  that,
• 49:03
  I
• 49:03
  like
• 49:04
  to,
• 49:04
  I
• 49:04
  like
• 49:04
  to
• 49:04
  educate
• 49:05
  people
• 49:05
  about
• 49:05
  where
• 49:05
  they're
• 49:05
  at.
• 49:06
  You
• 49:06
  know,
• 49:07
  Lake
• 49:07
  Champlain,
• 49:07
  not
• 49:08
  only
• 49:08
  is
• 49:08
  it
• 49:08
  an
• 49:08
  amazing
• 49:09
  place
• 49:10
  for,
• 49:12
  for
• 49:12
  fishing,
• 49:12
  but
• 49:13
  it's,
• 49:13
  it's,
• 49:13
  it's
• 49:14
  an
• 49:14
  incredible
• 49:14
  place
• 49:14
  for,
• 49:15
  for
• 49:15
  U.S.
• 49:15
  history.
• 49:17
  You
• 49:17
  know,
• 49:17
  we're.
• 49:19
  When
• 49:19
  I
• 49:19
  launch
• 49:19
  at
• 49:20
  Otter
• 49:20
  Creek,
• 49:20
  we
• 49:20
  go
• 49:21
  right
• 49:21
  by
• 49:23
  the
• 49:23
  very
• 49:23
  spot
• 49:24
  where
• 49:25
  basically
• 49:25
  The
• 49:25
  War
• 49:25
  of
• 49:26
  1812
• 49:26
  was
• 49:27
  won.
• 49:27
  And
• 49:28
  most,
• 49:28
  you
• 49:28
  know,
• 49:28
  we
• 49:29
  got
• 49:29
  tens
• 49:29
  of
• 49:29
  thousands
• 49:29
  of
• 49:30
  people
• 49:30
  who
• 49:30
  go
• 49:30
  by
• 49:30
  that
• 49:31
  every,
• 49:31
  every
• 49:32
  summer
• 49:32
  and
• 49:32
  have
• 49:33
  no
• 49:33
  idea
• 49:34
  that,
• 49:34
  you
• 49:34
  know,
• 49:35
  a
• 49:35
  one
• 49:35
  hour
• 49:35
  gun
• 49:36
  battle
• 49:36
  right
• 49:36
  there
• 49:37
  is
• 49:38
  what
• 49:38
  changed
• 49:38
  the
• 49:38
  course
• 49:39
  of
• 49:39
  the
• 49:39
  war.
• 49:40
  So
• 49:40
  that's,
• 49:41
  that's
• 49:41
  pretty
• 49:42
  cool
• 49:42
  to
• 49:42
  be
• 49:42
  able
• 49:42
  to
• 49:42
  share
• 49:42
  that
• 49:43
  with
• 49:43
  people
• 49:43
  and
• 49:44
  also
• 49:44
  explain,
• 49:45
  you
• 49:45
  know,
• 49:45
  the
• 49:46
  natural
• 49:46
  history
• 49:47
  of
• 49:47
  the
• 49:47
  fish
• 49:48
  that
• 49:48
  we're
• 49:48
  going
• 49:48
  after
• 49:49
  or
• 49:50
  other
• 49:50
  animals
• 49:50
  that
• 49:51
  we
• 49:51
  see.
• 49:53
  You
• 49:53
  know,
• 49:54
  it's
• 49:54
  a
• 49:54
  really
• 49:55
  neat
• 49:56
  place
• 49:56
  and
• 49:56
  I
• 49:57
  love
• 49:57
  sharing
• 49:58
  my
• 49:58
  home
• 49:58
  with
• 49:58
  other
• 49:59
  people.
• 50:00
  I
• 50:01
  also
• 50:01
  like
• 50:01
  to
• 50:01
  have
• 50:02
  like
• 50:02
  plenty
• 50:02
  of
• 50:02
  good
• 50:02
  snacks.
• 50:04
  I
• 50:04
  work
• 50:04
  for
• 50:05
  a
• 50:05
  small
• 50:06
  business
• 50:06
  that
• 50:07
  has
• 50:08
  some
• 50:09
  amazing
• 50:10
  sweets.
• 50:12
  Anytime
• 50:13
  anybody
• 50:13
  is
• 50:14
  going
• 50:14
  out
• 50:14
  with
• 50:14
  me.
• 50:15
  I
• 50:15
  have
• 50:15
  these
• 50:17
  maple
• 50:17
  pecan
• 50:18
  bars
• 50:18
  which
• 50:19
  everybody
• 50:20
  seems
• 50:20
  to
• 50:21
  just
• 50:21
  think
• 50:21
  is
• 50:22
  the
• 50:22
  cast
• 50:23
  Meow.
• 50:24
  And
• 50:25
  they're
• 50:25
  really
• 50:25
  good.
• 50:26
  They're
• 50:26
  incredibly
• 50:27
  addictive,
• 50:29
  which
• 50:29
  can
• 50:30
  be
• 50:30
  detrimental
• 50:31
  to
• 50:31
  my
• 50:31
  waistline
• 50:32
  at
• 50:32
  times.
• 50:34
  But
• 50:34
  you
• 50:35
  know,
• 50:35
  it's,
• 50:37
  it's
• 50:40
  sharing
• 50:41
  this
• 50:42
  incredible,
• 50:44
  the
• 50:44
  incredible
• 50:44
  resource
• 50:46
  that's
• 50:46
  right
• 50:46
  here
• 50:47
  between
• 50:48
  New
• 50:48
  York
• 50:48
  and
• 50:48
  Vermont.
• 50:49
  You
• 50:50
  know,
• 50:50
  this,
• 50:50
  this
• 50:50
  lake
• 50:51
  is,
• 50:52
  is.
• 50:53
  I
• 50:53
  love
• 50:55
  sharing
• 50:55
  this
• 50:56
  lake
• 50:56
  with
• 50:56
  people
• 50:57
  because
• 50:58
  it
• 50:58
  is
• 50:58
  just,
• 50:59
  it's
• 50:59
  such
• 51:00
  a
• 51:00
  great
• 51:00
  place.
• 51:02
  Very,
• 51:03
  very
• 51:03
  neat.
• 51:03
  And
• 51:03
  rumor
• 51:04
  has
• 51:04
  it
• 51:04
  that
• 51:04
  you,
• 51:05
  you
• 51:05
  might
• 51:05
  have
• 51:05
  a
• 51:06
  book
• 51:06
  in
• 51:06
  the
• 51:06
  works.
• 51:08
  I
• 51:08
  do.
• 51:09
  I
• 51:09
  will
• 51:10
  have
• 51:10
  a
• 51:10
  book
• 51:10
  coming
• 51:10
  out
• 51:11
  from
• 51:11
  Stackpole
• 51:12
  in
• 51:12
  September
• 51:13
  called
• 51:14
  Favorite
• 51:14
  Fries
• 51:14
  for
• 51:15
  Vermont
• 51:15
  where
• 51:16
  you
• 51:16
  will
• 51:17
  see
• 51:18
  some
• 51:18
  of
• 51:19
  the
• 51:19
  offerings
• 51:20
  that
• 51:20
  I
• 51:20
  have.
• 51:21
  But
• 51:21
  it's
• 51:21
  also
• 51:22
  kind
• 51:22
  of
• 51:22
  going
• 51:22
  to
• 51:22
  go
• 51:22
  through
• 51:24
  some
• 51:25
  historic
• 51:25
  flies,
• 51:26
  but
• 51:27
  also
• 51:27
  flies
• 51:28
  from,
• 51:28
  from
• 51:29
  folks
• 51:29
  like
• 51:30
  Tom
• 51:30
  Rosenbauer
• 51:31
  and
• 51:31
  a
• 51:31
  lot
• 51:31
  of
• 51:31
  other
• 51:32
  guides
• 51:33
  and,
• 51:34
  and
• 51:34
  anglers
• 51:35
  throughout
• 51:35
  the
• 51:36
  state.
• 51:37
  Mostly
• 51:38
  trout
• 51:38
  flies,
• 51:38
  but
• 51:39
  there's
• 51:39
  a
• 51:39
  lot
• 51:39
  of
• 51:39
  other
• 51:40
  good
• 51:40
  stuff
• 51:40
  in
• 51:41
  there.
• 51:41
  And
• 51:41
  you'll
• 51:41
  see
• 51:41
  some
• 51:41
  of
• 51:42
  my,
• 51:42
  my,
• 51:43
  my
• 51:43
  bowfin
• 51:43
  flies
• 51:43
  and
• 51:44
  gar
• 51:44
  flies
• 51:44
  and
• 51:45
  it,
• 51:46
  it'll
• 51:46
  be,
• 51:46
  it'll
• 51:47
  be
• 51:47
  pretty
• 51:47
  neat
• 51:47
  to,
• 51:48
  to
• 51:49
  see
• 51:49
  my
• 51:49
  first
• 51:49
  book
• 51:49
  being
• 51:50
  published.
• 51:51
  Yeah,
• 51:51
  we'll
• 51:51
  have
• 51:51
  to
• 51:52
  bring
• 51:52
  you
• 51:52
  back.
• 51:53
  As
• 51:54
  we
• 51:54
  talked
• 51:54
  about
• 51:54
  before
• 51:54
  we
• 51:55
  started
• 51:55
  recording,
• 51:56
  you
• 51:56
  can't
• 51:56
  do
• 51:57
  justice
• 51:57
  to
• 51:58
  the
• 51:58
  God
• 51:58
  experience.
• 51:59
  And
• 51:59
  then
• 51:59
  the
• 52:00
  whole
• 52:00
  trauma
• 52:01
  of
• 52:01
  writing
• 52:01
  a
• 52:01
  book
• 52:02
  deserves
• 52:02
  its
• 52:02
  own
• 52:03
  entire
• 52:03
  interview.
• 52:07
  You
• 52:08
  got
• 52:08
  that
• 52:08
  right.
• 52:10
  You
• 52:10
  got
• 52:10
  that
• 52:10
  right.
• 52:10
  Yeah.
• 52:11
  So
• 52:11
  I
• 52:11
  know
• 52:11
  the
• 52:11
  bucket
• 52:11
  that
• 52:12
  you
• 52:12
  fall
• 52:12
  into
• 52:12
  because
• 52:12
  there
• 52:13
  are
• 52:13
  kind
• 52:13
  of
• 52:13
  two
• 52:13
  flavors
• 52:14
  of
• 52:14
  ice
• 52:14
  cream
• 52:14
  there.
• 52:14
  They're
• 52:15
  the
• 52:15
  people
• 52:15
  that
• 52:15
  love
• 52:15
  writing
• 52:16
  the
• 52:16
  books.
• 52:16
  And
• 52:17
  then
• 52:17
  there
• 52:17
  are
• 52:17
  people
• 52:17
  that
• 52:18
  are
• 52:18
  like,
• 52:18
  they
• 52:18
  did
• 52:18
  it
• 52:19
  once.
• 52:19
  It
• 52:19
  almost
• 52:19
  killed
• 52:20
  them.
• 52:20
  And
• 52:20
  they
• 52:20
  Never
• 52:20
  want
• 52:20
  to
• 52:20
  do
• 52:21
  it
• 52:21
  again.
• 52:23
  Well,
• 52:23
  I,
• 52:23
  I
• 52:24
  would
• 52:24
  like
• 52:24
  the
• 52:24
  opportunity
• 52:25
  to
• 52:25
  do
• 52:25
  it
• 52:25
  again.
• 52:25
  I
• 52:25
  got,
• 52:25
  I,
• 52:26
  I've
• 52:26
  got
• 52:26
  some
• 52:26
  other,
• 52:27
  some
• 52:27
  other
• 52:28
  ideas
• 52:29
  floating
• 52:29
  around,
• 52:30
  but
• 52:30
  we'll
• 52:31
  see
• 52:31
  what
• 52:31
  happens
• 52:31
  with
• 52:32
  this
• 52:32
  first
• 52:32
  one.
• 52:33
  Very,
• 52:33
  very
• 52:33
  neat.
• 52:33
  And
• 52:34
  so,
• 52:34
  you
• 52:34
  know,
• 52:34
  before
• 52:34
  I
• 52:34
  let
• 52:34
  you
• 52:35
  go
• 52:35
  this
• 52:35
  evening,
• 52:35
  Drew,
• 52:35
  is
• 52:35
  there
• 52:36
  anything
• 52:36
  else
• 52:36
  you'd
• 52:36
  like
• 52:36
  to
• 52:36
  share
• 52:37
  with
• 52:37
  our
• 52:37
  listeners?
• 52:39
  You
• 52:39
  know,
• 52:39
  just,
• 52:41
  you
• 52:41
  know,
• 52:42
  come
• 52:42
  up
• 52:42
  and
• 52:43
  visit,
• 52:43
  Visit
• 52:44
  Vermont
• 52:45
  and
• 52:46
  check
• 52:46
  out
• 52:46
  Lake
• 52:47
  Champlain.
• 52:47
  It's,
• 52:48
  it's,
• 52:48
  it's
• 52:49
  a
• 52:49
  really
• 52:49
  cool
• 52:49
  place.
• 52:50
  And,
• 52:50
  uh,
• 52:51
  you'll
• 52:51
  really
• 52:52
  enjoy
• 52:52
  yourself.
• 52:53
  Yeah.
• 52:53
  And
• 52:53
  so,
• 52:53
  you
• 52:53
  know,
• 52:54
  for,
• 52:54
  like.
• 52:54
  So
• 52:54
  I'm
• 52:54
  down
• 52:54
  in
• 52:54
  Charlotte,
• 52:55
  North
• 52:55
  Carolina.
• 52:56
  If
• 52:56
  you're
• 52:56
  not
• 52:56
  kind
• 52:56
  of
• 52:57
  within
• 52:57
  a
• 52:57
  reasonable
• 52:58
  drive
• 52:58
  distance
• 52:59
  of
• 53:00
  your
• 53:00
  neck
• 53:00
  of
• 53:00
  the
• 53:00
  woods,
• 53:01
  kind
• 53:01
  of,
• 53:01
  what's
• 53:01
  the,
• 53:01
  what's
• 53:02
  the
• 53:02
  best
• 53:02
  way
• 53:02
  to
• 53:02
  get
• 53:02
  up
• 53:03
  there?
• 53:05
  There's
• 53:05
  a,
• 53:05
  there's
• 53:06
  an
• 53:06
  international
• 53:07
  airport
• 53:07
  in
• 53:08
  Burlington.
• 53:09
  That's,
• 53:09
  that's
• 53:09
  really
• 53:10
  your
• 53:10
  best
• 53:10
  bet.
• 53:11
  We're,
• 53:12
  you
• 53:12
  know,
• 53:12
  it's,
• 53:13
  it's
• 53:13
  about
• 53:13
  a
• 53:14
  four
• 53:14
  and
• 53:14
  a
• 53:14
  half,
• 53:14
  five
• 53:14
  hour
• 53:15
  drive
• 53:15
  from
• 53:15
  New
• 53:15
  York
• 53:15
  City.
• 53:16
  We're
• 53:16
  about
• 53:16
  three
• 53:16
  and
• 53:16
  a
• 53:16
  half
• 53:16
  hours
• 53:17
  away
• 53:17
  from
• 53:17
  Boston,
• 53:17
  hour
• 53:18
  and
• 53:18
  a
• 53:18
  half
• 53:18
  from
• 53:18
  Montreal.
• 53:19
  So
• 53:20
  it's,
• 53:20
  it's,
• 53:20
  it's
• 53:21
  not
• 53:21
  really
• 53:21
  too
• 53:22
  far
• 53:22
  from
• 53:22
  a
• 53:22
  lot
• 53:22
  of
• 53:23
  stuff,
• 53:23
  but
• 53:24
  it's
• 53:24
  just
• 53:24
  far
• 53:24
  enough
• 53:25
  away
• 53:25
  to,
• 53:25
  to
• 53:25
  make
• 53:25
  it
• 53:26
  a
• 53:26
  little
• 53:26
  challenging
• 53:27
  to
• 53:27
  get
• 53:27
  here.
• 53:28
  But
• 53:28
  there's
• 53:29
  a
• 53:29
  lot
• 53:29
  of,
• 53:29
  A
• 53:29
  lot
• 53:30
  of
• 53:30
  great
• 53:30
  accommodations.
• 53:31
  There's
• 53:31
  a
• 53:31
  lot
• 53:31
  of
• 53:31
  things
• 53:31
  for
• 53:32
  families
• 53:32
  to
• 53:32
  do
• 53:33
  here.
• 53:34
  You
• 53:34
  know,
• 53:35
  Burlington
• 53:36
  is
• 53:36
  a
• 53:37
  wonderful
• 53:38
  city.
• 53:39
  We
• 53:39
  have
• 53:40
  great
• 53:40
  food
• 53:40
  culture
• 53:41
  here.
• 53:41
  If
• 53:41
  you
• 53:42
  like
• 53:42
  beer,
• 53:43
  you've
• 53:43
  really,
• 53:43
  you
• 53:44
  know,
• 53:44
  you
• 53:44
  can't
• 53:44
  go
• 53:44
  wrong
• 53:45
  with
• 53:45
  Vermont
• 53:45
  beer.
• 53:47
  It's
• 53:48
  a
• 53:48
  cool
• 53:48
  place.
• 53:49
  And
• 53:51
  fall
• 53:52
  foliage
• 53:53
  in
• 53:53
  Vermont
• 53:54
  can't
• 53:54
  be
• 53:54
  beat.
• 53:56
  Yeah.
• 53:56
  And
• 53:57
  I've
• 53:57
  never
• 53:57
  found
• 53:57
  bad
• 53:58
  beer.
• 53:58
  So
• 53:58
  there
• 53:58
  you
• 53:58
  go.
• 53:59
  Right?
• 54:00
  No,
• 54:00
  well,
• 54:00
  there
• 54:00
  you
• 54:00
  go.
• 54:01
  I
• 54:01
  mean,
• 54:01
  well,
• 54:01
  you
• 54:01
  know,
• 54:01
  we
• 54:01
  got
• 54:02
  helmet,
• 54:02
  Heady
• 54:03
  Topper,
• 54:04
  and
• 54:05
  there's
• 54:05
  a
• 54:05
  lot
• 54:05
  of
• 54:05
  other
• 54:06
  really
• 54:06
  good
• 54:07
  beers
• 54:07
  around,
• 54:08
  too.
• 54:08
  So,
• 54:09
  you
• 54:09
  know,
• 54:09
  we,
• 54:10
  we
• 54:11
  definitely
• 54:11
  pride
• 54:11
  ourselves
• 54:12
  on,
• 54:13
  on
• 54:13
  the
• 54:13
  microbrews
• 54:14
  here.
• 54:14
  Yeah.
• 54:15
  And
• 54:15
  so,
• 54:15
  you
• 54:16
  know,
• 54:16
  if,
• 54:16
  if
• 54:16
  folks
• 54:17
  want
• 54:17
  to
• 54:17
  learn
• 54:17
  more
• 54:17
  about
• 54:18
  Masterclass
• 54:18
  Angling,
• 54:19
  you
• 54:19
  know,
• 54:20
  book
• 54:20
  a
• 54:20
  trip
• 54:20
  with
• 54:20
  you.
• 54:20
  Follow
• 54:21
  your
• 54:21
  adventures
• 54:21
  on
• 54:21
  the
• 54:22
  water.
• 54:22
  You
• 54:22
  know,
• 54:22
  where
• 54:23
  should
• 54:23
  they
• 54:23
  go?
• 54:25
  Masterclassangling.com
• 54:26
  is
• 54:27
  my
• 54:27
  landing
• 54:28
  page.
• 54:29
  But
• 54:29
  also
• 54:29
  I'm
• 54:30
  on
• 54:30
  Instagram
• 54:30
  at
• 54:31
  Masterclass
• 54:32
  Angling.
• 54:32
  All
• 54:32
  one
• 54:32
  word
• 54:33
  and.
• 54:34
  Yeah,
• 54:34
  give
• 54:34
  me
• 54:35
  a
• 54:35
  follow
• 54:35
  and
• 54:36
  check
• 54:36
  out
• 54:37
  the
• 54:37
  adventures
• 54:37
  that
• 54:38
  I
• 54:38
  get
• 54:38
  into
• 54:39
  and
• 54:39
  that
• 54:40
  I
• 54:40
  get
• 54:40
  other
• 54:40
  people
• 54:40
  into.
• 54:41
  Yeah,
• 54:41
  very,
• 54:42
  very
• 54:42
  cool.
• 54:42
  I
• 54:42
  will
• 54:42
  drop
• 54:43
  all
• 54:43
  that
• 54:43
  stuff
• 54:44
  in
• 54:44
  the
• 54:44
  show
• 54:44
  notes.
• 54:46
  Fantastic.
• 54:47
  Well,
• 54:48
  Drew,
• 54:48
  I
• 54:48
  really
• 54:48
  appreciate
• 54:49
  you
• 54:49
  spending
• 54:49
  some
• 54:50
  time
• 54:50
  with
• 54:50
  me
• 54:50
  this
• 54:50
  evening.
• 54:50
  And,
• 54:51
  you
• 54:51
  know,
• 54:51
  maybe
• 54:52
  around
• 54:52
  the
• 54:52
  4th
• 54:52
  of
• 54:52
  July,
• 54:53
  we
• 54:53
  I'll
• 54:53
  reach
• 54:54
  out
• 54:54
  again
• 54:54
  and
• 54:54
  we'll
• 54:54
  get
• 54:54
  you
• 54:54
  on
• 54:54
  the
• 54:55
  calendar
• 54:55
  to
• 54:56
  do
• 54:56
  a
• 54:56
  full
• 54:56
  blown
• 54:57
  interview
• 54:57
  on
• 54:57
  your
• 54:57
  new
• 54:57
  book.
• 54:59
  Thanks
• 54:59
  a
• 54:59
  million,
• 55:00
  Marvin.
• 55:00
  I'm
• 55:01
  looking
• 55:01
  forward
• 55:02
  to
• 55:02
  getting
• 55:02
  you
• 55:02
  on
• 55:02
  the
• 55:02
  water
• 55:02
  sometime
• 55:03
  as
• 55:03
  well.
• 55:04
  Absolutely.
• 55:05
  Take
• 55:05
  care.
• 55:07
  Well
• 55:07
  folks,
• 55:08
  we
• 55:08
  hope
• 55:08
  you
• 55:08
  enjoyed
• 55:08
  the
• 55:09
  interview
• 55:09
  as
• 55:09
  much
• 55:09
  as
• 55:09
  we
• 55:10
  enjoyed
• 55:10
  bringing
• 55:10
  it
• 55:10
  to
• 55:11
  you.
• 55:11
  Don't
• 55:11
  forget
• 55:12
  to
• 55:12
  check
• 55:12
  out
• 55:12
  the
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