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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grece. You gotta help us. This
- 0:17Speaker 1: teen boy is missing.
- 0:21Speaker 2: After a series of one fail after the next, after the.
- 0:26Speaker 1: Next, we can't find him.
- 0:29Speaker 2: A freshman at Missouri Western State University. The apple of
- 0:37Speaker 2: his grandmother's eye.
- 0:39Speaker 1: She is with us now.
- 0:42Speaker 2: Begging for your help to find her grandson, her baby,
- 0:48Speaker 2: Tamantees Hurt. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank
- 0:53Speaker 2: you for being with us here at Crime Stories and
- 0:55Speaker 2: on series XM one eleven. How does a freshman at
- 1:01Speaker 2: Missouri Western State University vanish?
- 1:06Speaker 1: Listen?
- 1:07Speaker 3: Timonte's Hurt is a freshman at Missouri Western State University,
- 1:10Speaker 3: but the nineteen year old is originally from Saint Louis.
- 1:14Speaker 3: On Thursday, February first, Hurt is with a friend in
- 1:17Speaker 3: Kansas City when he makes an early morning phone call
- 1:19Speaker 3: to his grandmother to ConA Donald Sullivan, she says he
- 1:23Speaker 3: isn't sounding like his normal self. He sounds as if
- 1:26Speaker 3: he is scared, terrified, in some kind of mental distress.
- 1:30Speaker 3: She calls police in Kansas City and they're able to
- 1:32Speaker 3: track her down and take him to Saint Luke's Hospital.
- 1:35Speaker 2: So this freshman is afraid. He's so afraid he calls
- 1:42Speaker 2: his grandmother. She can tell something's horribly wrong, so she
- 1:48Speaker 2: has him taken to the hospital. She's so convinced something
- 1:53Speaker 2: is wrong with her grandbaby. He gets to the hospital,
- 1:58Speaker 2: he's clearly and some kind of mental distress.
- 2:01Speaker 1: What do they do? They let him go.
- 2:06Speaker 4: Listen to Montez. Hurt is picked up by police in
- 2:08Speaker 4: Kansas City after his grandmother calls and tells them she's
- 2:11Speaker 4: worried he's having some type of mental distress. Police take
- 2:14Speaker 4: her to Saint Louis Hospital, but he's released after a
- 2:17Speaker 4: few hours of observation, according to his grandmother. To ConA
- 2:20Speaker 4: Donald Sullivan, Hurt is taken by z Trip taxi to
- 2:23Speaker 4: the Greyhound bus station, arriving at the bus station just
- 2:25Speaker 4: before noon at eleven fifty three am. The station is closed.
- 2:29Speaker 4: Hurt has left his phone in the Z Trip taxi
- 2:32Speaker 4: and he can be seen on surveillance video trying to
- 2:34Speaker 4: get back into the Z Trip taxi, but is unable
- 2:37Speaker 4: to get back into the vehicle, so he starts walking south.
- 2:40Speaker 5: I left my phone in a taxi in New York City.
- 2:45Speaker 2: It had all of my photos, everything on it. I
- 2:50Speaker 2: did everything I tried to track. I tried to get
- 2:53Speaker 2: the cab driver. I called the Division of Cab Enforcement.
- 2:57Speaker 2: I did everything. I even offered a re warn because
- 3:01Speaker 2: I wanted the Christmas photos off the phone. I never
- 3:04Speaker 2: got my phone back, and I was doing everything I,
- 3:07Speaker 2: as a lawyer, knew to do to find my phone.
- 3:11Speaker 2: Can you imagine this teen, He's already having some type
- 3:18Speaker 2: of a mental episode so bad that he calls his
- 3:24Speaker 2: grandmother for help, and she gets some help and she
- 3:27Speaker 2: gets him. Grandma gets him to the hospital and then
- 3:30Speaker 2: they let him go in a taxi and then the
- 3:34Speaker 2: top it all off, he leaves his phone in the taxi.
- 3:37Speaker 2: He tries to get it back, he can't catch the cab.
- 3:41Speaker 5: And now this listen to our friends a crime online.
- 3:44Speaker 3: The Missouri State Highway Patrol has issued a missing person's
- 3:48Speaker 3: report for Tamantes Hurt. Hurts. Grandmother to ConA donald Sullivan
- 3:52Speaker 3: lives in Saint Louis, but she's now in Kansas City
- 3:54Speaker 3: to file a police report. Officers are able to find
- 3:58Speaker 3: her on traffic cameras on Thursday afternoon, still walking south.
- 4:02Speaker 3: He was seen on the traffic cameras near seventy seven
- 4:05Speaker 3: and Trust, So that is where Tacona donald Sullivan is
- 4:08Speaker 3: standing handing out flyers. She hands out flyers up and down,
- 4:11Speaker 3: trust and says she isn't leaving without her grand baby,
- 4:14Speaker 3: nineteen year old to Montes hurt.
- 4:16Speaker 5: Can you imagine the grandma out on the street corner
- 4:22Speaker 5: handing out flyers? Can we please help her find her
- 4:27Speaker 5: grand baby?
- 4:29Speaker 2: A freshman there at Missouri Western State University to Montes,
- 4:35Speaker 2: just so handsome, last wearing a royal blue Price Chopper uniform,
- 4:41Speaker 2: polo shirt, green sweatpants. Joining me right now is the
- 4:48Speaker 2: grandmother Ta Conna Donald, Mss Donald, Thank you for being.
- 4:54Speaker 6: With us, Thank you for having me.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Miss Donald. Tell me what happened.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Start at the beginning, when you get the phone call
- 5:03Speaker 2: from your grand baby.
- 5:04Speaker 1: To Montes.
- 5:05Speaker 6: When I get the phone call, I uh, when I
- 5:09Speaker 6: first noticed it, I get up at three in the morning,
- 5:13Speaker 6: and so I was getting dressed and I said, okay,
- 5:17Speaker 6: I got my coffee and everything. I'm like, what's going on?
- 5:23Speaker 6: I called Tomantes when the first call. I missed his call.
- 5:28Speaker 6: So I called him back, and I called him back
- 5:32Speaker 6: at three something and to Montez was really his voice
- 5:37Speaker 6: was high pitched and and I was like, to Montez,
- 5:42Speaker 6: what's wrong? And he was like, Grinnie, I'm scared, and
- 5:46Speaker 6: I said, hear to what he said, I think somebody
- 5:49Speaker 6: did something to me. I think she did something. So
- 5:53Speaker 6: I can hear a girl in the back, and I'm like,
- 5:56Speaker 6: who is she? Who is she? To Montez, he was like, Grannie,
- 6:00Speaker 6: it's a girl I met. But and then he changed
- 6:03Speaker 6: and then he said he looking. I guess he was
- 6:07Speaker 6: acting like he was talking to her. He was sounding
- 6:10Speaker 6: like he was talking to her cause he was saying,
- 6:12Speaker 6: what did you do to me? What did you do
- 6:14Speaker 6: to me? And I was like, Tamantas, who is that?
- 6:17Speaker 6: And he was just so so just out of it.
- 6:20Speaker 6: And I have an Android phone, Tamantes having an iPhone
- 6:24Speaker 6: and so he knows how to FaceTime me on my Android.
- 6:29Speaker 6: We usually meet through meet so I said, because at
- 6:34Speaker 6: this point I wanted to see how he's looking. I
- 6:36Speaker 6: was like, taman Tis, what's going on. I was like,
- 6:39Speaker 6: Tamantis face timing. He said, Granny, I don't know how
- 6:44Speaker 6: to face time. That really just started making me because
- 6:48Speaker 6: he knows how to face time me. He facetized me
- 6:52Speaker 6: all the time. So I ran it through the house
- 6:56Speaker 6: and I'm looking so I'm trying I say, who is that.
- 6:59Speaker 6: And the girl finally said her name was Naya, and
- 7:02Speaker 6: she was like, tam Tis, where are you doing that?
- 7:04Speaker 6: And he was like and I can hear him like running,
- 7:08Speaker 6: and I'm like, what are you running? So by this time,
- 7:11Speaker 6: I go get my iPhone because I have an iPhone
- 7:14Speaker 6: where I text where I just only use it for
- 7:17Speaker 6: tomorrow for my grandkids because for face timing, and so
- 7:23Speaker 6: I FaceTime him and I got my Android and then
- 7:27Speaker 6: I said, I said to my kids, calm down, calm down.
- 7:31Speaker 6: He was like, just pray with me. Granted, just pray
- 7:33Speaker 6: with me. Then I began to pray and then I said,
- 7:39Speaker 6: my test, calm down, come down. So I get him
- 7:43Speaker 6: to calm down. And I remember looking at I mean
- 7:46Speaker 6: always I could see his face, but he still looked
- 7:51Speaker 6: at like my my sweet red baby still looked at
- 7:54Speaker 6: just like him. And I was like, what's strong? But
- 7:57Speaker 6: his eyes was like he was looking at something, you
- 8:00Speaker 6: know how when you look into the side. And so
- 8:03Speaker 6: I was like, my chess, who he said, what is
- 8:06Speaker 6: going on? And he was like So at that time,
- 8:10Speaker 6: I died nine one one from my android on my
- 8:15Speaker 6: andro phone because I see her and IM won't face time.
- 8:19Speaker 6: So I said, Loo, can I please get a police
- 8:22Speaker 6: su Kansas City. So I asked the girl I was
- 8:26Speaker 6: saying in the background of the cause you can see,
- 8:29Speaker 6: I said, where is he at? What is the address?
- 8:32Speaker 6: And then so she said she would act like she
- 8:35Speaker 6: was kind of starting I was saying, and I was
- 8:37Speaker 6: trying to make her think that I could pining that
- 8:40Speaker 6: I knew where she was. And so she said thirty
- 8:44Speaker 6: nine oh six Baltimore. And so I told the told
- 8:48Speaker 6: the police, and when I called the nine one one,
- 8:51Speaker 6: he said, ma'am, you can't call the police from Saint
- 8:54Speaker 6: Louis to Kansas City. And so I said, what do
- 8:58Speaker 6: I do in it? And so the nine one one
- 9:02Speaker 6: lady told me to call somebody in Kansas called a
- 9:06Speaker 6: hospital or something. So I googled, true I grew. I
- 9:11Speaker 6: groogled through a hospital in Kansas, and Truman Hospital came up.
- 9:17Speaker 6: So I immediately called Truman and Truman is the person
- 9:22Speaker 6: they called. I called her the situation and whoever it was,
- 9:27Speaker 6: she can hear the She can hear me on FaceTime
- 9:30Speaker 6: with my grandslad she can hear me trying to calm
- 9:32Speaker 6: him down. And so she and Needy try to start
- 9:35Speaker 6: helping me. So she got nine one one on the
- 9:38Speaker 6: phone in dispatch nine one one two thirty nine O six, Baltimore.
- 9:43Speaker 6: And then the police must have made it that She
- 9:47Speaker 6: was like, ma'am, they're on their way there, on their way,
- 9:49Speaker 6: and I was like, thank you. And so by this
- 9:53Speaker 6: time the police is calling me back and the police
- 9:56Speaker 6: is telling me that they can't get in, and so
- 10:00Speaker 6: I'm screaming and I'm yelling somebody go. And so the
- 10:05Speaker 6: girl is trying to get my test to come with her,
- 10:09Speaker 6: and I was like, no, to my test, Sam right there,
- 10:12Speaker 6: do not move not And so I said, do not move,
- 10:15Speaker 6: do not move to my test. And he didn't move,
- 10:19Speaker 6: and so finally the police came where he was. He
- 10:23Speaker 6: went down or however it was, I can't really tell you,
- 10:28Speaker 6: but then the police was there. And then police told
- 10:30Speaker 6: him to hang up, and I said, sir, absolutely not.
- 10:34Speaker 6: I've been on this phone. My grandfriend is in distress.
- 10:37Speaker 6: He said somebody gave him something. He's compantly saying that,
- 10:41Speaker 6: asking this girl what did she give him? What did
- 10:44Speaker 6: you give me? And so he asked the police asked
- 10:49Speaker 6: to my test, what what what? What happened? And so
- 10:53Speaker 6: my test said I don't know. So he said, well,
- 10:57Speaker 6: do you want to go to the hospital. I said,
- 11:00Speaker 6: he needs to go to the hospital. My grandson doesn't
- 11:03Speaker 6: talk like that, he doesn't act like they please take
- 11:07Speaker 6: him to the hospital. And then so he said, whether
- 11:10Speaker 6: amulance is on his way, Charley. About two or three
- 11:13Speaker 6: minutes passed, the ambulance was there. They study was trying
- 11:17Speaker 6: to disconnect me to the phone. So I kept saying, no,
- 11:21Speaker 6: tom child, do not give them permission to take your phone.
- 11:25Speaker 6: You have a right to have your phone. You have
- 11:28Speaker 6: not committed a crime. Keep your phone. Keep the phone
- 11:32Speaker 6: so Greannie can't see you. And so the Emma lance lady,
- 11:37Speaker 6: she must have hurt her me because she could tell
- 11:40Speaker 6: I was a very concerned. So she said, well, I'm grandma,
- 11:44Speaker 6: I'm going to set the phone right here beside him.
- 11:47Speaker 6: And even though you kept just look directly and you
- 11:50Speaker 6: can hear everything. I heard him take his blood pressure
- 11:54Speaker 6: because I remember she said to Marte, is your blood
- 11:57Speaker 6: press one hundred and thirty two over eighty? He ate
- 12:01Speaker 6: and she told him it's pause and everything. And then
- 12:05Speaker 6: so he was like I'm okay, I'm okay. And I
- 12:08Speaker 6: was like, I say, where is y'all a And they said,
- 12:11Speaker 6: we're on our way to the hospital. I said, well hospital,
- 12:14Speaker 6: and you're taking them too, So they act like again
- 12:17Speaker 6: like he was. I was like, my tends, do not
- 12:20Speaker 6: hang his phone up. I want to stay with you.
- 12:23Speaker 6: And he kept on saying, Grannie, don't leave me, don't
- 12:27Speaker 6: leave me, Grannie, And I said I'm not And I
- 12:32Speaker 6: stayed on the phone until he got to the emergency room.
- 12:36Speaker 6: I'm a hospital called Saint Loup's on the plaza. They
- 12:42Speaker 6: took him in and they let him play down. They
- 12:46Speaker 6: took him in the room. I still was on the phone.
- 12:49Speaker 6: By this time.
- 12:50Speaker 1: I'm on my.
- 12:51Speaker 6: Way to work, and I'm thinking, okay, he's gonna be okay.
- 12:54Speaker 6: You know, he finally made it. No work sraight, and
- 12:58Speaker 6: maybe they can figure out what going on with them.
- 13:01Speaker 6: I talked my tests. I say, tell them to check
- 13:04Speaker 6: you out, to find out what's going on. What you
- 13:07Speaker 6: took my tests? And he was talking about God. He
- 13:11Speaker 6: was talking to we're spiritual people, but the way he
- 13:15Speaker 6: was talking about God, he was talking about God's being
- 13:21Speaker 6: forgiving God. He forgive God. And he was going and
- 13:27Speaker 6: I'm like to my tests, it's gonna be all right.
- 13:30Speaker 6: And then so he expressed to me, he was like,
- 13:33Speaker 6: I stayed on the phone, and I was like, they haven't.
- 13:36Speaker 6: They haven't came in to take your vitals or anything.
- 13:41Speaker 6: You know, normally when people take you to the hospital,
- 13:45Speaker 6: they come in, they take your vitals and all of
- 13:47Speaker 6: those type of things. I don't hear nothing, I said
- 13:50Speaker 6: to my He said, well, they just got me laying
- 13:53Speaker 6: in That's how he's talking. He's like, grin. He they
- 13:56Speaker 6: got me laying in here. And I said, he said,
- 14:00Speaker 6: I'm hydrated, and I was like, hot, Trady, what he said,
- 14:05Speaker 6: he's thirsty. I said, We'll go out there and tell
- 14:07Speaker 6: him to give you something to drink. And so he
- 14:11Speaker 6: went out. He still got me on the phone, Nancy.
- 14:14Speaker 6: He still has me on the phone, and he tells
- 14:17Speaker 6: them that he's thirsty. And so he tells them that
- 14:21Speaker 6: he hasn't been to sleep, and I'm like, why haven't
- 14:24Speaker 6: you been to sleep? He said, I haven't been able
- 14:26Speaker 6: to sleep, Granny. And so I'm thinking maybe he suffered
- 14:30Speaker 6: from insomia something in his cause. And I don't know,
- 14:33Speaker 6: but I want them to do their job. All they
- 14:37Speaker 6: had to do is third job, and all they had
- 14:40Speaker 6: to do is shake him out. And then then about
- 14:46Speaker 6: two or three hours passed. I'm on the phone. All
- 14:49Speaker 6: of a sudden, they're getting ready to discharge. I say, discharge.
- 14:53Speaker 6: What do you mean you're discharge him? You haven't well, ma'am.
- 14:57Speaker 6: We did all we do. We let him go three
- 15:00Speaker 6: or four hours of sleep, and we said him for sprites.
- 15:04Speaker 6: I said, for a sprikee, ma'am. I targed the Paul
- 15:10Speaker 6: Lee in the ambulance from Saint Louis Reserve to Kansas
- 15:14Speaker 6: City because he is not hisself. He's like he's having
- 15:19Speaker 6: a mental breakdown. Something is not right. And so she said,
- 15:25Speaker 6: I can't. I said, well, don't do not discharge him.
- 15:29Speaker 6: He can't. I said, take his take his blood pressure,
- 15:32Speaker 6: take his blood, take his your do something to let
- 15:37Speaker 6: me know that he has not been, you know, laced
- 15:40Speaker 6: or done something too.
- 15:43Speaker 7: Ma'am.
- 15:43Speaker 6: Something is wrong with my grandsothing. That is not all
- 15:46Speaker 6: he talks.
- 15:49Speaker 1: What did she say?
- 15:50Speaker 6: She told me, what do you want me to do?
- 15:53Speaker 6: I gave him for frights. What do you want me
- 15:57Speaker 6: to do? I get with forts frights. Indeed, so she said,
- 16:00Speaker 6: when you're saying for what fright?
- 16:03Speaker 7: Fright?
- 16:04Speaker 1: Sodam, that's it. They gave him a soft drink.
- 16:08Speaker 7: They gave him full so stiffness.
- 16:11Speaker 6: What she is played? So she tells me, well, I
- 16:15Speaker 6: am going to I'm gonna I'm going to go get
- 16:17Speaker 6: the other nurse. So she's snapping at me, and I
- 16:21Speaker 6: don't care about her snapping. I said, go get somebody
- 16:24Speaker 6: in the authority, because I said, I asked her. I said, so,
- 16:28Speaker 6: you mean to tell me all he gets from this
- 16:30Speaker 6: visit is a hospital bill, y'all cap hear me in
- 16:35Speaker 6: there long enough to get a bill. Nobody has assessed
- 16:39Speaker 6: him at all. Nobody knows anything. So the nurse comes
- 16:43Speaker 6: out of whoever she was. She comes back in. She's
- 16:46Speaker 6: talking to him. She said, okay, well we're just gonna
- 16:50Speaker 6: take him specimens. You can tell he is out of
- 16:55Speaker 6: He asks her what he is a specimen? You would
- 17:00Speaker 6: have to This is what she said, to my test.
- 17:02Speaker 6: You have to give us put me said, will if
- 17:04Speaker 6: you do not give us permission? So to my test,
- 17:07Speaker 6: I'm screaming. I'm saying to my tears, tell them people
- 17:10Speaker 6: to check you out, give them permission to check you out.
- 17:13Speaker 6: He said, whatever, My great, He's sounded like a robot,
- 17:19Speaker 6: like a baby robot where to have her. My granny says,
- 17:24Speaker 6: give it to do it too. I'm like, ma'am, get
- 17:30Speaker 6: some mass from my grand baby. Please please, dude.
- 17:35Speaker 1: Did they do the test?
- 17:37Speaker 6: She told me she was pulling us of your specimen,
- 17:41Speaker 6: and about twenty minutes later she said, well, we're going
- 17:45Speaker 6: to release him. We didn't find anything in his your
- 17:49Speaker 6: and this is what she said to me.
- 17:52Speaker 2: Okay, so they release him even though you're screaming and
- 17:55Speaker 2: begging on the phone, and he's clearly out of.
- 17:58Speaker 6: It now only my screaming, Nancy. He must have grabbed
- 18:04Speaker 6: her hand, she said, while you're holding my hand on
- 18:08Speaker 6: my pis. He says, I am born again and I'm
- 18:11Speaker 6: going to glory. And I said to her, do that
- 18:16Speaker 6: sound like a same person? Can you please take my
- 18:20Speaker 6: grandson and send him evaluate him. I will come and
- 18:25Speaker 6: get him. I'm four hours awake. Can you please take
- 18:30Speaker 6: him upstairs to evaluate, get him evaluated. Do not send
- 18:35Speaker 6: him out there?
- 18:49Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Grace.
- 18:52Speaker 2: Bottom line, even with you begging, they release them.
- 18:58Speaker 1: They released to Montest.
- 19:00Speaker 6: He's still discharge. Tip. I remember talking to a social worker.
- 19:05Speaker 6: I'm begging her, ma'am. Do you see how he's looking.
- 19:09Speaker 6: Do you see how he's Well, he's been discharged. Only
- 19:13Speaker 6: thing I can do is write a voucher out. We're
- 19:16Speaker 6: going to send him, I say, sending him. He says
- 19:21Speaker 6: he has to be he has to get out because
- 19:25Speaker 6: we discharged him. I said, well, I'll tell you what.
- 19:28Speaker 6: Just send him to the Greyhound bus station and I
- 19:31Speaker 6: will get him a ticket. I say, just because if
- 19:34Speaker 6: you're gonna.
- 19:35Speaker 2: Put him out, so they get him a voucher in
- 19:38Speaker 2: this taxi.
- 19:40Speaker 1: It is a Z trip, I asked her. And he
- 19:44Speaker 1: goes to the Greyhound bus station and then.
- 19:47Speaker 6: I am on the phone with him. When he gets
- 19:50Speaker 6: in the taxi, I said to my tess, I said,
- 19:54Speaker 6: to my tests, Granny got to get off the phone.
- 19:57Speaker 6: He said, Granny, you said you wasn't gonna leave. I said,
- 20:00Speaker 6: I'm not leaving. To my says, I'm just gonna call.
- 20:04Speaker 1: And book them.
- 20:05Speaker 6: I'm just gonna call it book the bus. And I
- 20:09Speaker 6: can't be on the phone with you at the same time.
- 20:12Speaker 6: I don't know how to do that.
- 20:14Speaker 1: He takes the Z trip to Greyhound bus station and.
- 20:18Speaker 6: He goes to the gray out bus station. First of all,
- 20:23Speaker 6: I don't understand that you go to the Greyhound bus station.
- 20:29Speaker 6: The Greyhound, I the Greyhound bus, the z trip lets
- 20:34Speaker 6: him off, You let him off. I'm calling to my
- 20:40Speaker 6: after I booked the ticket. I'm calling to my tends
- 20:43Speaker 6: back to back, back to back, back to back. I'm
- 20:46Speaker 6: not getting the answer, Grace Nancy, I'm not getting I'm
- 20:50Speaker 6: not getting no answer. So I'm going I'm hysterical. I
- 20:53Speaker 6: call back to Saint Luke's. They connect me to this
- 20:56Speaker 6: social worker. The social worker tells me that she put
- 20:59Speaker 6: a in a ze Cherir. She gives me the reference numbers.
- 21:02Speaker 6: She gives me the cab number. I call the cab.
- 21:06Speaker 6: I'm calling the cab and talking with them, and they
- 21:10Speaker 6: telling me that they can't get in touch with the past.
- 21:15Speaker 6: So I called his mom and I call people that
- 21:18Speaker 6: I know. They got iPhones. I say, tell me what
- 21:22Speaker 6: is to Monte's location. They telling me he's being in
- 21:25Speaker 6: all over the city. I'm like what.
- 21:28Speaker 1: Because they because the phone is in the cab. Okay
- 21:33Speaker 1: joining me right now.
- 21:34Speaker 2: In addition to missus Donald, this is Tamantez's grandmother. Can
- 21:38Speaker 2: you hear her voice? Can you hear how distraught she is?
- 21:44Speaker 2: Her baby, her grandson is missing. We have a chance
- 21:49Speaker 2: to find him. Dave Mac joining me from crime Online.
- 21:53Speaker 2: The video shows him at the Greyhound bus station.
- 21:58Speaker 6: And it is then, what ma'am do you I'm sorry?
- 22:02Speaker 6: Do you see how he gets how he goes to
- 22:05Speaker 6: the door. He's holding that, he's holding his hospital papers
- 22:10Speaker 6: in his hand like he's got a lot of services.
- 22:13Speaker 6: And he gets to the door, He opens the door.
- 22:15Speaker 6: He goes back to get back in the zip trip cart.
- 22:18Speaker 7: They I know.
- 22:20Speaker 2: He tries to go back to get a cell phone.
- 22:23Speaker 2: He can't get a cell phone. The driver takes off.
- 22:28Speaker 2: Dave Mac joining me. He doesn't seem to understand his
- 22:32Speaker 2: grandmother has gotten him a ticket, and he walks out.
- 22:37Speaker 2: The video surveillance shows him walking out.
- 22:40Speaker 8: Actually, when you when you actually watch the video, the
- 22:42Speaker 8: doors of the greyhound bus station are locked. There are
- 22:46Speaker 8: five people on the video, and there's more people out
- 22:49Speaker 8: there outside the Greyhound bus station at this time it's
- 22:52Speaker 8: eleven fifty three am. But the Greyhound bus station doors
- 22:56Speaker 8: are locked, and you can see Tamantez walk towards the door.
- 23:00Speaker 8: He's holding the papers and he checks the door. Now
- 23:03Speaker 8: everybody is standing there actually is looking and we cannot
- 23:06Speaker 8: hear it. We can only see it, but they're looking
- 23:08Speaker 8: at Tamantes like something is wrong. He approaches the door,
- 23:12Speaker 8: he checked it, it's locked. Now the Z cab car
- 23:14Speaker 8: is still sitting right there watching him. They can see
- 23:17Speaker 8: that the door is locked, that he can't get in.
- 23:19Speaker 8: He turns around and goes straight back to the taxi.
- 23:23Speaker 8: Now is at this point that his phone is in
- 23:26Speaker 8: that taxi, but they don't let him in. They don't
- 23:30Speaker 8: unlock the door. And for whatever reason, I don't know
- 23:33Speaker 8: what was going on, but his phone is in the
- 23:36Speaker 8: car and the t the taxi won't let him in,
- 23:40Speaker 8: so Tomantes just walks away. He walks away from the cab.
- 23:45Speaker 8: I don't know why they did not open the door
- 23:48Speaker 8: for the man.
- 23:50Speaker 6: And my thing is if you get him from the
- 23:53Speaker 6: hospital and you can see that he was meant. Nobody
- 23:57Speaker 6: holds papers like that and the first time my call
- 24:00Speaker 6: for him for the police, this is what's strange is
- 24:03Speaker 6: to me, it's getting stranger and stranger. The police told
- 24:07Speaker 6: me that I wouldn't be able to date, I wouldn't
- 24:09Speaker 6: be able to get that video that you guys are
- 24:12Speaker 6: seeing because Greyhound don't cooperate with them. But if you want.
- 24:16Speaker 1: To see you've seen the video, right, ma'am.
- 24:19Speaker 6: I'm the one that gave it the video.
- 24:22Speaker 2: Yes, okay, all right, because I'm looking at it right now.
- 24:25Speaker 2: Hold on, guys, I want to go to Barry Hutchinson,
- 24:27Speaker 2: senior veteran, former veteran law enforcement officer, owner of bury
- 24:32Speaker 2: In Associates Investigative Services in Kansas City.
- 24:38Speaker 1: That's where this occurred, Kansas City.
- 24:41Speaker 2: Bury He is last seen just wandering off, walking with
- 24:47Speaker 2: his head down.
- 24:48Speaker 1: He's not looking.
- 24:50Speaker 2: One way or the other, and he we know he
- 24:54Speaker 2: walks for seventy two blocks.
- 24:59Speaker 6: That's what the he said. But another thing, Nancy, why
- 25:03Speaker 6: won't they show me the.
- 25:05Speaker 9: Surveillance of him walking seventy two blocks without non stop
- 25:10Speaker 9: no no, no, going into no business, not looking to
- 25:14Speaker 9: the left, to the right. That was one of the
- 25:16Speaker 9: first things people teach you when you are learning how
- 25:19Speaker 9: to cross the street, lift left, right and left both ways.
- 25:23Speaker 6: He never this is what the police told me. Detect them, Martin.
- 25:28Speaker 6: He told me he's walking. I said, Shack, can you
- 25:31Speaker 6: please tell me if it's him? How do I know
- 25:33Speaker 6: it's him? He said, I think him. Why can't we
- 25:37Speaker 6: get a missing person? He wouldn't even give let us
- 25:41Speaker 6: to a missing person or anything he say, because they
- 25:43Speaker 6: look like he's walking with purpose. I asked him, what
- 25:46Speaker 6: does that look like?
- 25:49Speaker 2: Let me understand, Barry Hutchinson, please put these locations in context.
- 25:54Speaker 1: What do we do now, Barry?
- 25:56Speaker 10: Well, everything has to be looked at from the last
- 25:59Speaker 10: point of where he was seen, and then you just
- 26:01Speaker 10: have to recanvas see if you can find witnesses that
- 26:04Speaker 10: saw him, take statements from them, and just try to
- 26:07Speaker 10: put the pieces of the puzzle together. And you know,
- 26:11Speaker 10: slowly and methodically, you just you just follow all the
- 26:14Speaker 10: leads that you can, and you tried to just find
- 26:16Speaker 10: out where he went, try to get as much video
- 26:19Speaker 10: surveillance footage as you can. Uh, he could have been hitchhiking.
- 26:24Speaker 10: Somebody could have picked him up. One of the very
- 26:26Speaker 10: first things I would have done, would would would be
- 26:28Speaker 10: the inundate the local media newspaper, all the television stations,
- 26:33Speaker 10: et cetera. Tried to get as much public outcry as
- 26:35Speaker 10: I could get intel coming in.
- 26:37Speaker 1: I mean, now, what now, what can I do? Now?
- 26:40Speaker 2: The Grandma's been out handing out flyers for Pete's sake.
- 26:44Speaker 1: I did grandma out on the street.
- 26:47Speaker 6: Tell me, I'm telling you. I'm sorry, but I did everything.
- 26:54Speaker 6: I didn't get cast in city police department to help.
- 26:58Speaker 6: I had to go to the how Waste State Patrol
- 27:02Speaker 6: well Well office. Sir Trooper Lane is the only one
- 27:06Speaker 6: that reached out to try to help us and put
- 27:08Speaker 6: a missing person and that was the third day.
- 27:11Speaker 1: This is crazy, guys. I'm looking at to Montes right now.
- 27:19Speaker 2: This young man is just three years older than my
- 27:25Speaker 2: baby boy.
- 27:28Speaker 1: He is a.
- 27:29Speaker 2: Freshman at Missouri Western State University. The whole family, this
- 27:35Speaker 2: is their hope, their dreams, the apple of their eye.
- 27:40Speaker 2: They've worked and worked and worked to get this young
- 27:43Speaker 2: man to college. He's there and now this to Montes
- 27:48Speaker 2: has been missing two weeks. To Montes, hurt freshman Missouri
- 27:55Speaker 2: Western State University, calls grandma.
- 27:59Speaker 1: She realized this is something is very wrong. He's not
- 28:03Speaker 1: talking like himself.
- 28:04Speaker 2: He's talking about going to heaven and to glory and
- 28:08Speaker 2: he's calling out to Grandma.
- 28:11Speaker 1: She gets him to the hospital.
- 28:13Speaker 2: They release him after doing basically nothing there at Saint
- 28:19Speaker 2: Luke's Hospital through a series of mishaps. The cab drives
- 28:26Speaker 2: off with the cell phone his grandma has been on
- 28:29Speaker 2: with him non stop. He walks away we know because
- 28:35Speaker 2: of surveillance video he's walked for seventy two blocks and
- 28:41Speaker 2: then vanishes.
- 28:44Speaker 1: You heard her, Like I heard her.
- 28:48Speaker 2: I want to help her, and we can help her
- 28:52Speaker 2: when I look at this young man's smile, he's got
- 28:56Speaker 2: a smile like an angel. Help her find her baby.
- 29:05Speaker 2: He maybe just turn nineteen, but he is her baby
- 29:11Speaker 2: and he loves his grandmother. Tip line eight one six
- 29:17Speaker 2: two three four five zero four three repeat eight one
- 29:21Speaker 2: six two three four five zero four three or eight
- 29:28Speaker 2: six six three six two six four two two.
- 29:32Speaker 1: Have you seen him?
- 29:34Speaker 2: Eight six six three six two six four two two.
- 29:41Speaker 2: Can you think of anything we can do to help her?
- 29:45Speaker 1: Berry?
- 29:46Speaker 10: You just have to go out and try to try
- 29:48Speaker 10: to just follow the last part of the trail and
- 29:50Speaker 10: just pick it up from there. I mean, you have
- 29:52Speaker 10: to just recreate an investigation and just try to see
- 29:56Speaker 10: if you can locate in that way. I mean, there's
- 29:57Speaker 10: just so many things that you have to look into.
- 30:01Speaker 10: I mean, there's no way that I can pinpoint one
- 30:03Speaker 10: exact thing right now that's gonna remedy the situation.
- 30:07Speaker 2: I think starting there is exactly correct. Barry Hutchinson Senior
- 30:12Speaker 2: joining me from Barry and Associates investigative services there in Kansas.
- 30:17Speaker 2: The grandma joining me right now, missus Donald, you went
- 30:22Speaker 2: to that location, the intersection of seventy seventh and Truce
- 30:26Speaker 2: to spelled t R O S T yes. I started
- 30:30Speaker 2: handing out flyers. Had anyone seen him?
- 30:33Speaker 6: You know? I had a bunch of people that say, oh,
- 30:37Speaker 6: they saw they thought they saw it. I started look.
- 30:41Speaker 6: I went from the bus, the Greyhound bus station, all
- 30:45Speaker 6: the way over to Maine. From Maine, all the way
- 30:47Speaker 6: over to thirty first Street of Prospect. I went down
- 30:50Speaker 6: to the homeless, every homeless shelfter I called the maud.
- 30:55Speaker 6: I went all up and down truth. I went on
- 30:58Speaker 6: the back side of Kansas On I went off, I.
- 31:02Speaker 7: Have I have the everyone and posted off times of
- 31:07Speaker 7: pictures of my grisson and nobody has seen them. I
- 31:12Speaker 7: got Kcy police only start to help me on the
- 31:17Speaker 7: sixth day he was missing.
- 31:20Speaker 6: That's crazy.
- 31:22Speaker 2: If you have information on this missing young man, he's
- 31:28Speaker 2: got a smile like an angel. You all had a grandmother, right,
- 31:34Speaker 2: My grandmother was Lucy who helped raise me.
- 31:40Speaker 6: I love.
- 31:41Speaker 1: If you.
- 31:43Speaker 5: Can't connect to him, do you hear his grandmother.
- 31:50Speaker 1: Help her? Eight one six.
- 31:55Speaker 2: Two three four five zero, four three eight one six
- 32:02Speaker 2: two three.
- 32:03Speaker 1: Four five zero four three. Help us bring him home
- 32:11Speaker 1: to his grandmother. Good Bye friend,