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Jaguars Happy Hour | Preseason Week 1 Breakdown · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, August seventeen. This is Check Wars Happy Hours.
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  Speaker 1: Check War's Happy ALUs is brought to you by Jet
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  Speaker 1: Home Loans. And now not only will she bring a
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  Speaker 1: new level of intelligence to this broadcast, she's got hair
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  Speaker 1: guy none.
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  Speaker 2: It was a set very high in some ways, but
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  Speaker 2: very low in other ways.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind Nannie Stevens of here for our first edition
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  Speaker 2: of Happy Hour on Monday of this twenty twenty sixth season.
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  Speaker 2: And we've taken the place of JP Shadrick, who has
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  Speaker 2: taken his talents to the desert. We will miss him
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  Speaker 2: very much. And it's next woman up around here. So
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  Speaker 2: do my very very best, and we have a very
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  Speaker 2: special day because Pete Prisco here with us in person,
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  Speaker 2: Austin Lane of course with us as well, and we're
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  Speaker 2: going to do our best. We're allowed to make this
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  Speaker 2: into something a little bit different now.
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  Speaker 3: But we don't know who are you talking about? JP?
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  Speaker 4: Who is that?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know who that is? I want to know
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  Speaker 3: who that is.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I believe he was here for
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  Speaker 5: an extended period of time. I think we worked together
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  Speaker 5: a little bit for a year and then he decided
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  Speaker 5: to for the Dos and so, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I basically drove him away.
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  Speaker 5: What do you think, like the les years.
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  Speaker 4: Right, we were together?
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  Speaker 3: I think we were eleven years.
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  Speaker 5: I mean he was here when I was when I
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  Speaker 5: got drafted in.
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  Speaker 3: And so the one year you did the show and
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  Speaker 3: one year left.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I literally drove away for what just
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  Speaker 5: to say, that's love for three yards, that's love for
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  Speaker 5: two yards? Like is that always going to be doing
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  Speaker 5: it in the box with the Arizona Cardinals or not?
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  Speaker 3: Well, probably until they get a quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: There we go.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe soon A lot coming up today obviously we finally
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  Speaker 2: have a preseason game to talk about, but coming up
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  Speaker 2: presented by Dfettie Vodka, handcrafted with real fruit, proud partner
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  Speaker 2: of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Now it's Monday, August seventeenth. It
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  Speaker 2: was a slow start, a good finish for them, at
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  Speaker 2: least a little bit of what we saw in that
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  Speaker 2: preseason matchup. They did have a joint practice as well
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  Speaker 2: with the Saints in New Orleans, so we'll talk a
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  Speaker 2: little bit about that. And the on line issue, which
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  Speaker 2: at one point wasn't that serious, has become a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more serious after another injury in that game, and
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  Speaker 2: of course we'll keep it real as we always do,
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  Speaker 2: so welcome into this edition. We're going to talk a
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  Speaker 2: little bit about that game. And it didn't start off
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  Speaker 2: really great peak because right off the rip special teams
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  Speaker 2: was had a little bit of trouble.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, kicked the ball into the end zone.
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  Speaker 2: Just oh, I know how you feel about it at all?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, you get you get one of
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  Speaker 4: those run back on you, maybe start thinking about putting
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  Speaker 4: it into the end zone.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and shot off to Jail and Husky who kind
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  Speaker 5: of got bogged down a little bit and ended up
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  Speaker 5: making a great play to save the touchdown and everything.
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  Speaker 5: But let's started with Jay when Husky and ended with
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  Speaker 5: jayen Husky as well. Like this this is this is
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  Speaker 5: literally the first live reps going to the ground. I
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  Speaker 5: feel like the Jagers have had all preseason because usually
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  Speaker 5: even in special teams they're taking up and everything. So
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  Speaker 5: this might have been a little bit of a wake
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  Speaker 5: up call to be like, hey, we're not just hand
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  Speaker 5: on the hip anymore.
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  Speaker 6: This is actually live reps were going here and going
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  Speaker 6: to the ground.
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  Speaker 3: And then bang they went in and scored.
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  Speaker 2: Immediately after it, and it was a mistackle I think
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  Speaker 2: by Muhammad as well in the goal line, or it
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  Speaker 2: was it was.
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  Speaker 3: A couple of guys.
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  Speaker 2: There was a couple of people. I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: just name one name. But also the thing with Husky
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  Speaker 2: if you mess up, at least he's got the speed
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  Speaker 2: to get back there and get the tax. That's a
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  Speaker 2: good is important. Yeah, I mean he is a rookie.
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  Speaker 2: We have to give him some credit for that. But
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  Speaker 2: how do you feel about the backup quarterback situation, Pete?
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  Speaker 2: Because I know all of us we would we would
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  Speaker 2: appreciate watching maybe someone else. I know it's probably a
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  Speaker 2: good place to be where the backup quarterback is your
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  Speaker 2: biggest issue. Maybe, but it was it was tough to
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  Speaker 2: watch at points.
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  Speaker 4: I mean he's a helium balloon. I mean that's what
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  Speaker 4: he is. I mean Nick Bollins throws helium balloons. I
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  Speaker 4: mean they stay in the air for about a half hour.
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  Speaker 4: I used to say, uh, there were other guys in
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  Speaker 4: the league that were the helium balloon, like Ryan Fitzpatrick
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  Speaker 4: played a long time and he threw a lot of
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  Speaker 4: helium balloons too.
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  Speaker 3: But it's this is this is not good.
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  Speaker 4: And if you're the if you're the team you got
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  Speaker 4: to start thinking about what your options might be.
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  Speaker 3: Now there's the whole theory.
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  Speaker 4: Of if you play your backup quarterback, you're dead anyways.
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  Speaker 4: You know, if it's a long period of time, but
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  Speaker 4: you might need him for a game or two. You
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  Speaker 4: hope not, but you might need him for a game
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  Speaker 4: or two. And if that's the case, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if he's capable of going in there and doing it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's what it's going to come down here, right,
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  Speaker 5: Like everyone's got the whole Nick Foles miracles season in
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  Speaker 5: mine in Philly like that that was an anomaly.
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  Speaker 3: The greatest accident in history of the accident possibly, right, and.
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  Speaker 4: Jackson and then he came here and they paid him.
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  Speaker 5: If you look at the numbers last year, while I
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  Speaker 5: believe it was one third of the starting quarterbacks in
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  Speaker 5: the NFL were out at least one or two games, right,
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  Speaker 5: So I mean that's thirty three percent chance where knock
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  Speaker 5: on wood, that your quarterback might be out.
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  Speaker 6: So can Nick Mullens win you games? Probably not? Right?
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  Speaker 5: And you saw Carter Bradley come in with his arm
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  Speaker 5: and it was a nine and day difference, right in
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  Speaker 5: terms of the arm strength, arm talent. Now, did Carter
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  Speaker 5: Badley play a perfect game? Absolutely not, but he's still
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  Speaker 5: a young guy. And I like how he got off
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  Speaker 5: to a rough start but then responded pretty nicely.
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  Speaker 6: I felt like we.
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  Speaker 3: Got to remember it's all vanilla.
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  Speaker 4: So for a guy like Carter Bradley, he goes in there,
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  Speaker 4: he's going to see vanilla coverages and Nick Mullens would
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  Speaker 4: have seen everything and he's played in the league and stuff.
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  Speaker 4: The difference is, I think a year ago it was
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  Speaker 4: nice to have Nick Mullins in the room because you
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  Speaker 4: were learning a new offense and he was a big
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  Speaker 4: guy that could help, you know, in terms of that offense,
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  Speaker 4: he could help Trevor Lawrence. You don't need that anymore.
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  Speaker 4: So if that's the reason you kept him in there,
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  Speaker 4: then I think you have to make a change.
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  Speaker 3: And and you know, I don't think maybe.
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  Speaker 4: Their backup quarterback isn't on the roster. I mean that's
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  Speaker 4: a possibility too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they could go elsewhere. We can talk about if
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  Speaker 2: there's someone that might pop up. I don't think they're
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  Speaker 2: really looking into it, to be honest, though, because Pete,
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  Speaker 2: I think they are kind of of that philosophy of
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  Speaker 2: building around Trevor Lawrence, and that's kind of what it
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  Speaker 2: is right or wrong that seems to But.
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  Speaker 4: If if he said two games or something, if he went,
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  Speaker 4: then you have to be have a guy that's capable
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  Speaker 4: of going in at least and giving you a chance
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  Speaker 4: to compete.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think Muwens can do it.
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  Speaker 5: Pete, let me ask you this, God they name of
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  Speaker 5: Gardner Minshew might be on the block, would you bring
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  Speaker 5: him back here?
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  Speaker 4: Well, he's better than Let's put it this way. I'm
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  Speaker 4: not a big fan of Gardner Minshew, but he's better
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  Speaker 4: than Nick Mullens. How about you saw two in New Orleans.
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  Speaker 3: At our backups? One of those guys, Yeah, yeah, neither
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  Speaker 3: of them.
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  Speaker 6: I think Richardson's the name that's getting thrown around.
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  Speaker 3: Loud doesn't an.
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  Speaker 5: They do?
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  Speaker 4: How about will Levice He played for Liam Conan Kentucky.
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  Speaker 2: They would never trade him to look good, so.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they would trade him inside the division.
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  Speaker 2: Probably just had a spite. Yeah, but if I let him.
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  Speaker 4: Go, Yeah, I liked Will Levis, so I'm partial to him.
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  Speaker 4: I think if he might be one of those guys
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  Speaker 4: that goes somewhere else gets you know, his career back
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  Speaker 4: on track much like Sam Darnold. Those kind of guys do,
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  Speaker 4: and I think he may be able to play this league.
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  Speaker 2: Austin. Anybody stand out to you on defense? Any flashes
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  Speaker 2: we've seen, We've been hearing about some of these defensive ends,
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  Speaker 2: some of these edgdreshers.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, so what I was really watching
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  Speaker 5: with the safety position because to me, you know, they
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  Speaker 5: had their starters already in place, but you got Lane,
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  Speaker 5: you got Husky, and you got Caleb Ransaw, who I
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  Speaker 5: was really excited to watch because.
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  Speaker 6: We get to really see him last year.
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  Speaker 5: That to me is going to be in an important
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  Speaker 5: position because I want to see a lot of dime
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  Speaker 5: this year out of this defense. And if that's the case,
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  Speaker 5: one of those guys has to step in. I don't
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  Speaker 5: think really any players set themselves apart in that safety group.
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  Speaker 5: I liked what Husky did, and Husky looks the part,
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  Speaker 5: like in terms of size and stature. You want to
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  Speaker 5: talk about you going to be in a dime package.
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  Speaker 5: Bring a guy in the line of scrimmage to kind
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  Speaker 5: of helped that run game a little bit. I feel
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  Speaker 5: like Husky has that ran saw you know, his speed
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  Speaker 5: was was prevalent and everything, but like, I didn't really
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  Speaker 5: see a giant splash play from Ransaw at all. But
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  Speaker 5: I was watching like with the microscope of those safeties
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  Speaker 5: and they all did their job just I don't think
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  Speaker 5: anybody really stuck out person.
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  Speaker 3: And but they'll all make the team.
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  Speaker 6: Of course.
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  Speaker 5: But my biggest thing, though Pete, is who's gonna be
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  Speaker 5: the guy that's gonna coming on dime package.
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  Speaker 3: I think Ransall will be that.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, I do.
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  Speaker 4: Ultimately, I think Randsall will be the guy. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: we talked about it before the show. That's why he
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  Speaker 4: can't keep three s SAM linebackers. If you're going to
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  Speaker 4: play a ton of dime, you're not gonna keep all
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  Speaker 4: thracoming thin. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But as far as the defensive line, one of the
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  Speaker 4: and I watched the tape, one of the things that
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  Speaker 4: stood out to me was Reis can rush the passer.
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  Speaker 3: I'm worried about him in the run game. He got
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  Speaker 3: he got pushed around a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: He's a big man, but he's not an NFL big person.
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  Speaker 2: Ye sure he will be, I think next season once
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  Speaker 2: he put some more muscle and he got pushed.
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  Speaker 3: Around, and I don't know if you know.
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  Speaker 6: No, no, no, he definitely did.
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  Speaker 5: But it's one of those things where I just think
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  Speaker 5: he's getting he's trying to find this ground a little bit,
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  Speaker 5: because you saw the athleticism.
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  Speaker 6: Wow, I could take off leet right off.
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  Speaker 5: And everyone's got their preconceived notions of like what a
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  Speaker 5: nose tackle is right, just two gapping and everything not
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  Speaker 5: being that viable of a pass rusher. I thought he
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  Speaker 5: showed great balance. I thought he showed great get off
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  Speaker 5: getting in the quarterback. And I think Rukeroro is another
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  Speaker 5: guy that's not getting talked about enough simply because right now,
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  Speaker 5: according to the depth Charty's third on that list. But
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  Speaker 5: I thought Rucroro showed a lot to and keep in
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  Speaker 5: mind with him, he's still learning how to play the game.
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  Speaker 5: Didn't really play it in high school, got a late
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  Speaker 5: start in college, finds himself in the pros now and there's,
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  Speaker 5: like I interviewed him a couple of weeks back, he's
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  Speaker 5: still learning the game, right. So this is where these
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  Speaker 5: preseason rep especially in the game mean a lot to
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  Speaker 5: a guy like group because he's still learned the system
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  Speaker 5: but also learning how to play defensive tackle.
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  Speaker 4: I thought Green had a couple of rushes. I think
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  Speaker 4: Green's got some ability. I think he's he's the guy
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  Speaker 4: to keep an eye on this year. And Williams had
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  Speaker 4: a rush one rush he got off the edge, But
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  Speaker 4: I think he's more of a project, maybe down the
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  Speaker 4: line guy, and it's gonna end up being a good
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  Speaker 4: run defender, yeah, but I don't know if he's ever
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  Speaker 4: going to be a great pass rusher.
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  Speaker 2: We're not going to fully cut the roster today or anything,
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  Speaker 2: but there's a lot of guys that they're kind of exciting.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you could, Pete, Well just put all the
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  Speaker 2: names out. You just cancel the rest of training him.
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  Speaker 2: Peter cut the roster down today. We're good to go.
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  Speaker 2: I loved that they played them a lot, but those
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  Speaker 2: rookie wide receivers, I've loved seeing them in practice. It's
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  Speaker 2: like almost every day Josh Cameron does something that's really impressive,
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  Speaker 2: and he's one of those bigger, physical guys that they've
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  Speaker 2: been wanting on offense that they haven't really had in
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  Speaker 2: the last couple of years. And then also CJ. Williams,
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  Speaker 2: who's just super smart, and I think he's going to
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  Speaker 2: be one of those guys that Trevor really trusts, that
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  Speaker 2: Trevor has mentioned him before, just kind of always being
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  Speaker 2: around and in every meeting kind of taking notes following up.
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  Speaker 2: But they flashed a little too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and again I think they're both. I mean, you
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  Speaker 4: look at that team, that roster right now, you know
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  Speaker 4: who's making the team pretty yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean if you look at it, you know you
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  Speaker 4: got Brian Thomas. You got because you remember, it depends
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  Speaker 4: what they do because Travis Hunter can play both, so
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  Speaker 4: he counts as a defense.
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  Speaker 2: They they'll count him as a dB for the purposes
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  Speaker 2: of this roster.
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  Speaker 4: So if you're going to keep the wide receivers you got,
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  Speaker 4: you got Thomas Myers.
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  Speaker 2: Washington, Cameron, and Williams, right.
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  Speaker 6: And then.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's your that's your that's your team right there.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean I want to go to the tight ends.
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  Speaker 4: We can do them too. Four four there.
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  Speaker 2: How did the rookie tight ends look to you out there?
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  Speaker 4: I thought Borcacer had some good blocks in the run game,
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  Speaker 4: and but nobody ever talks about that, but he did.
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  Speaker 3: He actually had one.
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  Speaker 4: He hooked the guy and got him and moved him
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  Speaker 4: out of the hole, which I thought was impressive for
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  Speaker 4: the against that it was a Sam linebacker, I think.
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  Speaker 4: And then, uh, you know, what's his name, Cozial. I
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  Speaker 4: think that's how you say it, but I've heard it
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  Speaker 4: two different ways. But he will get a lot of
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  Speaker 4: jump balls like they threw to him, and he's going
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  Speaker 4: to be a factor in the red zone. I think
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  Speaker 4: he's going to actually be pretty good in the passing game.
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  Speaker 2: He's looked good in offensive jills. He's the one that
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  Speaker 2: kind of like goes up and gets it a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more so than than Borkatre. They've tried to use
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  Speaker 2: both of them, but I feel like you've noticed him
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more here. He came in more like
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  Speaker 2: pass catch ready.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's what he is. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The question with him is Kenny block And he got
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  Speaker 4: beat bad on one player and a guy came right
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  Speaker 4: inside him on the butt as he's trying to block
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  Speaker 4: the edge. The thing about it is, though, if he's willing,
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  Speaker 4: he can become a better blockers. And I think he
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  Speaker 4: and they think he is too, So if he's willing,
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  Speaker 4: he'll be Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't need him to be like a Rob Gronkowski.
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  Speaker 5: Lawyer Head put him in the in the chest plate
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  Speaker 5: and move him back five yards. Like there's there's you know,
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  Speaker 5: there's the physical types of blockers, and there's like the
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  Speaker 5: finesse time it kind of like crafty blockers. And I
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  Speaker 5: can see Taniel Colezy'll be in one of those crafty
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  Speaker 5: type of blockers. And I talked to Breton Strange about
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  Speaker 5: this too, like, keep mind who these guys are going
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  Speaker 5: against every single day and practice. They're going against Trayvon Walker,
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  Speaker 5: Josh Heinz Out, b J Green, Right, Like if these
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  Speaker 5: guys are hungry and everything, so seeing those reps day
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  Speaker 5: in and day out, it's only going to get him
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  Speaker 5: more ingrained for when those real reps start coming in.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 3: I think there are guys in the league.
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  Speaker 4: And somebody here mentioned Parkinson to me, and he was
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  Speaker 4: not when he came out of college. He was not
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  Speaker 4: a great blocking tight end and they were worried about it.
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  Speaker 4: But he's made himself into a willing blocking tight end
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  Speaker 4: and he's gotten good enough at it.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's what you can get out of him.
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  Speaker 3: I think you'll get there now.
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  Speaker 4: Borgertchier can be the Rob Gronkowski typect blocker. That's what
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  Speaker 4: he is now. We got to see him in the
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  Speaker 4: passing game. I think there's been moments out here. You
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  Speaker 4: guys have seen it. When I watch what I saw
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  Speaker 4: in the spring and stuff. He can get open, and
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  Speaker 4: so I think now they just got to use him
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  Speaker 4: in the passing year.
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  Speaker 2: Does he need to have an impact early for the
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  Speaker 2: draft pick to make sense or does it not matter?
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  Speaker 4: When trust funny, you asked that because when I went
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  Speaker 4: around around the league and I was making some trips
• 12:16
  Speaker 4: around training camp, and guys were coming up to mego
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: boy and Jacksonville drifted that guy way too high, and
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: I said, we'll see.
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: I liked him. He was on my better than team.
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: I really liked him, and I had, in fact, both
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: those tight ends were was on.
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: My better than team. If guys I like more than
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: most people did.
• 12:30
  Speaker 4: Was he drafted a little high? Sure he was, but
• 12:32
  Speaker 4: they had intel. I think that teams behind him were
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: going to take.
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: Them and it started a tight end run.
• 12:36
  Speaker 4: It did. Denver Houston was interested. There were teams interested
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: in him. So look, if he's a Boston three years,
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: it was too high. If he's a tight end that's
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: catching thirty five forty balls in a good offense and
• 12:47
  Speaker 4: making and maybe blocking like a mule and getting five
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: or six touchdowns, then it's a great pick.
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: So we'll see.
• 12:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, see Kai, here's the thing with it, right, because
• 12:54
  Speaker 5: we can talk about consensus boards and fantasy football, right,
• 12:57
  Speaker 5: so the consensus board would say, Okay, I'm gonna be
• 12:59
  Speaker 5: Nate PORKI tup go out there and get you know,
• 13:01
  Speaker 5: five touchdowns on the season, thirty receptions. I don't need
• 13:04
  Speaker 5: that from him. Like, what I needed this team to
• 13:06
  Speaker 5: do is be a top ten rushing team. And if
• 13:09
  Speaker 5: they're going to be part of that, because that's why
• 13:10
  Speaker 5: it was kind of brought here as well, to kind
• 13:12
  Speaker 5: of bring that mentality in the blocking game. If they
• 13:14
  Speaker 5: can become a top ten rushing team, then you know what,
• 13:16
  Speaker 5: I think it was worth the pick. Like fantasy stats
• 13:19
  Speaker 5: be damned.
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: They're gonna have a problem with what with who's on
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: the field, and I toltdal Liam Cone this, Yeah, a
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: good problem.
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: Then that's a good problem.
• 13:28
  Speaker 6: That's what he said.
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: He said, it's a good problem to that.
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: But if you can you imagine, Okay, you have three
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: receivers that are can be a legitimate, not counting hunter.
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: He put a hunter on the field. That's four who
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: could be legitimate players in the offense if you go
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: to the three tight ends, which everybody in the league's
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: going to start using this year, thirteen personnel, which receivers
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: on the field, which one's sitting on the sideline complaining
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: about it. If I'm Parker Washington and I got a
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: contract on the table right now, I want to your
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: numbers might not go as great as he's been. His
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: numbers might not be indicative of what they what a
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: guy making that kind of money would be. So I
• 14:01
  Speaker 4: think there's going to be an issue at some point.
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: That's and it's a like you said, it's a pleasant
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: problem to have, but you used a second pick, second
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: round pick on a tight end. You have Strange's a
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: factor in a passing game and a good blocker, and
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: they're gonna use the you know, Cosey All in the
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: passing game as well. So there's three and then you
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: have all those receivers. So who's going to get the football?
• 14:21
  Speaker 5: I mean you still have to ask too, if Travis
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: Hunter is going to go in, who's coming out first? Like,
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: that's still a conversation that has to be had as well.
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: If you're thirteen, because you're going to go four wide receivers, right,
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: so you're gonna have three wide receivers out there. Who's
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: coming out of Travis Hunter goes in. You gonna tell
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: Parker we'll see you're coming out.
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: And here's the other part of that. Okay, say if
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: Brian Thomas is going to continue to do what he's
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: been doing all off season, Yeah, he's coming out.
• 14:45
  Speaker 6: He's then and you just Paige Jakobe Myers, So is
• 14:48
  Speaker 6: he coming out?
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: He's the he's the security blanket in the middle of
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: the field.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, we're gonna do that. Winning fixes everything thing.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: I think that's what they're going to go for this.
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: I don't buy.
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: There's no such thing as winning fixes everything. You know,
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: it fixes everything. A new contract, that's what fixes everything.
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: I think that it's done before the season starts, Pete.
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: If I were if I were them, and I were him,
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: I would get that done. And the reason I say
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: that is with him, with Parker Washington, it's such a
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: small body of work, and yet you look at the
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: numbers around the league where the contracts are, and you say,
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: if I'm him, I'm saying I want that, But I
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: don't think it's going to get to that.
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: You know, you think I disagree.
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: What do you think it's getting because I think I
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: think the sixteen seventeen is about the number.
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: There's no way Pete, Well, you're gonna pay him seventeen million.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: Well that's I think that's what they want to pay him, roughly,
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: But I think he probably liked and he probably like
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: he'd probably like twenty one twenty two, and so you
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: meet in the middle.
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: So here's where I think things got a little messed up.
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: And it almost reminds me of the Christian Kirkier when
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: the jacksonvill Jaggars paid him once. Alec Pierce got paid
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: what he got paid, and it wasn't necessarily based off
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: of a resume, it was based off of what we
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: hope he can be in the future. That reset the
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: entire market because and look at Christian Watson from Green Bay,
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: Like ask any Packer fan they like him. Can't stay healthy.
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: So you're paying a guy based off of what you
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: believe he can be. This is Parker Washington, Like, you're
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: gonna pay Parker Washington based off what we think he
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: can be going forward. And yeah, it helps that he's
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: here at four o'clock in the morning and having sleepovers
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: or anything like. He's had a great off season where
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of hype around it. But you gotta
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: pay him now based off of, well, we think he
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: can be a wide.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Receivers, a number one wide receiver.
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: No, I mean he's one who is one. There is nothing,
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: And then that's the buity of this.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: As you're gonna pay him. I don't is he gonna
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: get Is he gonna get more money than Myers? He
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: has to, because I don't think they're gonna go past that.
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: Well in terms of punt returning, in terms of his
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: age and everything, in terms of how much Trevor Lawrence
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: likes like.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: But you gotta admit it's a small samples that you're
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: paying him on a small sample side.
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: Here's what I'm gonna watch if if I'm Parker's people,
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: I'm watching what Michael Wilson gets in Arizona because I
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: think it's comparable. Michael Wilson is due for a new
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: contract and they're gonna pay him based off literally maybe
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: like eight nine games. Right, if I'm Parker's people, I'm
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: waiting to see what Michael Wilson gets and if Michael
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: Wilson gets in the route, like the twenty one to
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: twenty two million dollar range, then guess what would.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: You rather have?
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Christian Watson or Parker Washington.
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: I'm taking Parker, Yeah, I'm not.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: I'm taking Christian Watson. I think christ when he's on
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: the field, he special now ent.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: That's part of the deal though, because Parker will go
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: out there with a broken leg.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: Probably Christian Watson into the stadium.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, every day, park I don't know, but he works
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: at it.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Turning the lights on at four point thirty in the morning.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Maybe not.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: We could talk more about that contract.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: I love the kid, but you got to admit there's
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: some there's some small sample size.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: It's actually a conversation to be had about it. We're
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: here on Jaguars Happy Hour, brought to you by Jet
• 17:38
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• 17:40
  Speaker 2: we'll talk about some of the O line issues and
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: whether this could be a long term problem.
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: Two weeks of good work that we need to take
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: a step in the in the right direction, both physically conditioning.
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: We have to practice or we're gonna go pads a
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: few times this week. We got the joint, we got
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: the two joints against Tampa. So this is the time
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: in training camp that these things sometimes pile up. We're
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: just unfortunately it's at a position in which it's hard
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: to function when you have depth issues and injury.
• 18:16
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• 18:19
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• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Pete and Austin and the O line seemed like some
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: short term issues, but it looked really ugly during the
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: game because Trumany Dooga went down pretty early and then
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: very quickly did they pull Wyatt my Alem and Joonah
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Manheim and then it just a bunch of names and
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: it was really hard to watch. And yes it's preseason,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Yes these aren't your first string players, but it's becoming
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: a problem. It's and it's hard to see the work
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: with the rest of the team when you can't get
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: the OH line straight.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: There's some guys on that that played in that game
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: that were horrendous. I mean, sixty two, sixty six, sixty
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: one wasn't great. I mean it was not a good
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: showing for those backups, and that's concerning.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: But those guys aren't going to make the team anyways.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: So if the guys are all healthy, and they're not
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: right now, but if everybody's healthy, those guys that were
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: playing are not making the team, correct, there's no chance
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: that they're making the team.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: So it's just a matter of if the guys get healthy. Now.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Did he say what the what the injury was for
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: uh Udoga?
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: It's his right leg. They didn't go into it any
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: deeper than that.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, they just said he should be back, and
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: you know, before the season, yeah, they didn't.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Think it was a long term situation that he'll be back.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Walker little same kind of week to week thing got
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: rolled up on in the joint practice or not the
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: joint practice in the scrimmage practice that they had a
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, and they they say that they're
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: short term, but they're also kind of lingering a little bit.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen Patrick mckerry out there at practicing at all.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: He's off to the side usually. So for me, my
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: concern is when are these people going to start coming back.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Col Van Landon obviously had off season surgery. He's working
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: his way back actually from puplist. But we're getting close,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: you know, We've got a couple of weeks here.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's starting to because serning. You know, Walker Little,
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: what's his injury?
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: What do they say?
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Lower leg?
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: They're like the hockey they're like hockey teams.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, l Well they don't have to put the list out,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: so they're just like it's over there.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of NHL things. You remember when the
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: coach was here and each substitute ryan.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: Over the board.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: We don't have to do that.
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: It's hockey.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: It's hockey around here. But they give injuries like like
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: hockey team, lower leg, upper body.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: You know, I think it was his foot or his ankle.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: If Walker Little is healthy, he's on the team.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Sure now because of col van land is now there
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: was some talk about trading if you if you got
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: through camp, but I don't think that's going to happen.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: A dogu, I don't think a dooga makes the team
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: if everybody's healthy. I mean, right, do you?
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: It depends how many who care. He talked a little
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: bit about this, are you having nine or ten? So
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: that's kind of where they're at with offensive line as
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: well as what you're going to see.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what the guy who played I
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: don't know, if you're Pregnant was fantastic.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, how what did you see from him
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: on film?
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Because of the nasty stayed with his blocks.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: Now he sometimes when he comes off he misses a
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: little bit, and I think he'll get better at that
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: as he figures out the speed of the game. But
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: when the guy's on his nose and right over his face,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: he moves him.
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: Dude, he's not a frea.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: It hit somebody and take him the ground either, you know,
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: like pancake blocks, And that's the mentality that you want,
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: I believe. I want to say his last tw years
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: at Oregon only gave up one quarterback sack total, So
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: like pretty impressive from that standpoint. With Pregnant though, and
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: I get the enthusiasm he's gonna be your starter, you know.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: Then they're gonna move Ezra to right tackle if Colb
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: Atlanta can't come back, and then move Pregnant into that
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: starting guard. I'm excited for Pregnant. I think a lot
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: of people are. But you got to keep it within reason,
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: like that first preseason. The whole point of preseason games
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: isn't to necessarily win a starting spot. It's to get
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: you opportunities to get you more looks. What I want
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: to see from Pregnant now going forward, whether it's the
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: team practice on Wednesday or then that game on Friday,
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: I want to see.
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: Him roll with the ones a little more and see
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: what he can do.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: But I'm not gonna sit here and say, Okay, that
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: one preseason game against the Saints' backups. Now he's a
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: starting guard, like, you still have to earn your spot.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: But he's off to a good stuff.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: But he was coming on supposedly too throughout the camp
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: and they were getting really impressed with him. And like
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: he said, he he has that look of the square.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Lineman, the big, square, physical lineman.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: You put him next to Harrison on that left side,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: you're running to the left side a lot.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: That's a power side of the offensive line. So I
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: do think he I didn't think he would start the
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: season right away. Now I'm starting to feel like he
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: might win.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: I think he was going to take it at some point,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: whether Cleveland was playing left guard or not, I think
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: he was going to take the job from him. But
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: I think he might start the season there and and
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: that would be a good thing. Gives you a physical
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: left side, then you could if you have to, you
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: can move Cleveland to the right guard if Van Lannon's
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: back to play right tackle, and then the center will
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: be Hainesy to start the season, although I think Monheim
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: has a chance to take that job too. Guys, you
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: gotta look at youth. I mean, you gotta look at
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: the youth, especially especially on that position. Once they understand
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: the game. You know, you got to understand how how
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: you double, and it's so hard because they don't hit.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: So if you're doubling against you know this you played.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: You're doubling against pads. Guys, and pads you don't have
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: the speed of the game. So you come off and
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: he's like right there, the pads right there.
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Now you got to adjust to it. And that's I
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: think something pregnant is gotta.
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: Work without a doubt.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: And also you got to keep in mind too, if
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: you're gonna bring in some young guys week one against Cleveland,
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: you feel better at those guard positions and you do
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: at the tackle position, right because guards you have a
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: little more help every some on once in a while,
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: like slap protection sometimes if you're a tackle, and depending
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: who you're going against, Jared versus is a great pass
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: rush on his own right, like you may be on
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: an island out there, right. So I do like the
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: fact that it seems like some of their youth is
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: making a push to that inner. You know, the guards,
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: and we'll see the center position, but the guard for sure.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: I like that better than the tackle right.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Now, Pete, do you like that they moved Anton over
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: the left tackle. I know we talked about it for
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: a while, but to actually see it happen.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Yes, I think it was a smart move and it's
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: good for him. He's in a contract here too. I mean,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: he's a guy who goes, if you go play left
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: tackle and you play at a high level, you're gonna
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: right tackle. They say, it's not it's they're the same
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: now because you have a lot of rushers on that side.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: It's not the same.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: It's still you're still protecting the quarterbacks backside. And I
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: think I think that's important for him. He goes and
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: plays well there. It's a big deal for him personally,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: but I think it'd be great for this team too.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: I mean you can sit here and say, okay, right tackle,
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: left tackle is the same, but you look at the
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: money that you're making that left tackle.
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: I think that's why he's a bitely.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: I heard he's been really good with everything this year.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: You know, he knows it. He knows it's a money year.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: And keep in mind, if it was for Cam Robinson,
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: he would have been your day one starting left tackle anyways.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's all he played in college. You played
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: that in high school. But Cam Robinson took that spot
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: obviously some man and moved more of the right spot,
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: so like I feel like left is more of his
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: natural position.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Anyways, they gave him that extension obviously from his rookie deal,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: and I think they wanted to kind of see and
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: and challenge him in the sense that I know last
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: year Liam Cohen was kind of like, yeah, he's very talent,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: he's very athletic, but we need to see it every day.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: And after that he really did come in and change
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: because he did have that one was it his second year.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: It was kind of an off year where he didn't
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: see the the energy on every play and it was
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: inconsistent at times. So but you're seeing it more.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Play left tackle for a couple of years like that,
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: you're gonna get You're gonna get paid.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Williams. He just keeps getting paid, paid, paid, paid, paid,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: and it's it's one of those things.
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: Joan Taylor got paid.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Think that's amazing. But and he by the way, and
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: he's stunk in Kansas City. Uh, he was a human penalty.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Cole Van Lanin can play right tackle. I don't that's
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: an issue. So I think ideal scenario, Harrison and Cole
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: Van Lannon are your are your starting tackles? Yes, and
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: then you've got to figure out I think pregnant it
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: end up either starting guard.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: I mean I do.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: I think it'll be starting guard, and I think you
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: got to figure out what you do at right guard.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: That would be to me, that would be where Cleveland
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: hasn't worked at right guard though?
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Has he he did today? Was he at right tackle?
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: He's on the right side today, Yeah, but has he
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: worked at all right guard?
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Not that that could be uncomfortable that I.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Remember, but he has moved around before. But I don't
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: think that I've seen at this camp.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: OK, because here's there's a lot of combo.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I mean at the point com here's.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: The other question.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: If Van Landon's healthy and can play right tackle and
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Harris is the left tackle, and Pregnant is your left guard.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: What do you do with Cleveland? He's got to be
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: the right guard or he's not going to play.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: You put him at right guard if you think you
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: want to Pregnant on the left side.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think Pregnant has the look of
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: it that that big monster every body physical wine.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the center.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: I think Monheim is going to push him, I really do.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: I think he's going to push Hainsey. Hainsey's smart, and
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: so they'll start the season there. It can get a
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: feel for everything, but at some point Monheim might take
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: that job from him.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Manheim was good last year.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's more of like it's the craftiness verse, like
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: the physicality of Manheim right, like like Hainesy, he knows
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: what he's doing, he knows the calls and everything like that.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: So do you air on the side of that more
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: at the center position or do you go with maybe
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: more of a physical threat, because I mean that's apparent
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: like Monheim's much more physically.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: And last year, like with the backup quarterback, you needed
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: to have the center for Trevor, for Trevor to kind
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: of identify stuff. But now you're a year in so
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: you I think you'd like to have the more physical guys,
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: particularly if you talk about you want to run the
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: you know, like you want to run the ball better.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: And if you're going to run the ball better, you
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: want the physical center.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: And they have their new physical running back and Chris Rodriguez,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: so they're definitely going to try to do that. Thanks
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: for joining us so far here on Jaguar's Happy Hour.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, we'll talk a little bit
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: more contracts, what things might look like moving forward.
• 27:11
  Speaker 9: I know I can sharpen because at the end of
• 27:12
  Speaker 9: the day, you're chasing greatness, you're chasing dominance. You know,
• 27:15
  Speaker 9: every time I came to the sideline, I will get
• 27:17
  Speaker 9: the corners on trade, Josh, you can go out there
• 27:19
  Speaker 9: and directed, you know, make gage pressure.
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I look good.
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: It's a good step that's going.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: But it's nowhere. I'm not saying to you.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: It's bj Green weighing in on a little post game
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: after the Jaguars got that last second win. So we're
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: going to talk about our player of the game. Brought
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: to you by publics where shopping is a pleasure. I
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: don't know if I have a singular player in the preseason.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: But I did like what I saw out of BJ
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Green and some of the other pass rushers on defense,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: and of course they held up in the last second
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: to hold on for the win, a little dramatic win.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Coach Cohen didn't get his time out, but they still
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: got the w which I love when he because you know,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: if that play didn't go his way, he was going
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: to be so mad, even though it's the preseason. But
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: it was good to see some of the pass rush
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: out there, whether it's BJ Green or Rouke or just
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: some of the guys that we talked about. Strigo had
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: some moments. Didn't see a ton of Durfy who people
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: have been seeing in camp and thought would flash a
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: little bit more. But I think he was. I think
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: he's dealing with an injury because I see him off
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: to the side a little bit, and he did dress
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: and go in for some plays, but didn't play much.
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: I want to say, I think called like five or
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: six reps he got.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in that game, But.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: You got to remember, these guys are working against the
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: sixty two, sixty six.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Sixty one team. Yes it should be it's hard to evaluate,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: it really.
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: Is, but you know, what man, It's it's refreshing to
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: see bj Green do his thing because that guy, you know,
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: it has been nothing sort of sort of reliable last year,
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: and you see it in training camp.
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: You know, I think it was the team scrimmage.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: He must have had. You know, he had Chase Young
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: type of numbers. You see, I would Chase put up
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: in the Jaguars practice. He had great numbers. So I
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: was telling use on this, if you're gonna have the
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: crazy eye black with one thing down your eye, liked,
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: better get there, you better ball out.
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: And he definitely did against the Saints.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's an interesting guy because he looks like
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: he's bigger. And I guess was I watch an interview
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: you did with him where he stopped eating sugar.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Uh no, but he used to eat a crumble cookie
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: every day, which he told me last year and I
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: was like, that's making me physically ill just to think
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: about it. And that was like his pregame was too
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: crumble cookies, which should not be consumed, not be consumed
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: by one one human. But yes he had he is
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: as well. Him and Travis hunder both Colorado products, but
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: both have put on a lot of MIFEJ.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: Green.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Somebody told me VJ. Green has like one of the
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: fastest uh takeoffs?
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: Did they get off of the line, I mean I
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: believe it.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no more sugar holding him back.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: Said he's giving up Gatorade too because.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: The no more, no more junk food, no more sugar. Yeah,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: he's kind of junk food eating better.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: I said that. There goes that endorsement for get.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Zero sugar Gate. That's probably what no not g to sugar. Okay,
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: you know what's funny.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: I drink zero sugar gay ring and sometimes I'll try
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: drinking like there's nothing there except G two and even
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: that's too sweet.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Now that was I think the G two is what
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: actual Gatorade was originally, and then they made it into
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: sugar gateorates. I just like the gater in the can.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Every once in a while it's colder. It is just
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: something special.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Looks good though.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: He's gotten in great shape and really looks beefed up
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: at which he needed to do.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think physically he doesn't have any limitations that
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: we've been seeing. And then he's also bigger, which going
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: into the NFL he was going to need. So it
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: was nice to I mean obviously didn't want him to
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: get hurt, but to actually take that time and hit
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: the weight room the way he did, it's clearly benefited him.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: Well. Literally, my biggest concern in the off season was
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: if he wanted to put on weight or not, because
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: you heard like, you know, he was a little nervous
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: to put on weight because he's played at a certain
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: weight that his entire career rights. And also you get
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: the NFL they're saying you got to add some muscle
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: and everything. And then, as any athlete, you're going to
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: be concerned with if I put on ten pounds of muscle,
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: is that going to slow me down? Is that could
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: hurt my agility? I think it speaks volumes that he's
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: willing to do that because he's bought in fully to
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: the system, which is what you want on your first
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: round pick.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: And that's the factor when people evaluate this team from outside.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: And I talked to a lot of people, and you
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: look at read a lot of stuff, and all you
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: hear about is the Texans, the Texans, the Texans, the Texans,
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: And when they evaluate this team, they don't take into
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: account that you're getting a number one corner. They didn't
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: have that last year, and when you have a number
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: one corner, it shoots everybody down. The guy who was
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: trying to be the number one corner. You know, maybe
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: monterak Brown he's the number two, or you know, Jari
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: and Jones might be one of the most improved players
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: in the National Football League over the last two years.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: So the guys that were the ones are now getting
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: kicked down. The twos is now the two, and now
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: he's the three, and that makes you better at the
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: position that is lost on everybody outside this place.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Well, it's because Travis Hunters fantasy points aren't going to
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: be there right if he's playing corner most of the time.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: And that's what it comes down to. People see the highlights.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: They're not always watching a Jaguars game, so that's where
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: they're tuning into it. So for them, it's I think
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: there's also a lot of people that unless he's a
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: pro bowler on both sides, it's going to be a
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: failure no matter what, just because they don't.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Like if he's a true shut down corner.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: It's worth it. In my opinion, sure.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: It would be worth it.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but is that what he wants though?
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: Bets Hunter, No, but I'm saying, like, maybe the top
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: ten corners right now in the NFL.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Well, if he made me name five, but Patrick, let's
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: just say this right now. If he's Patrick's or.
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: Tan, how many commercials of Patricks Tann have right now?
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: But he's still going to get plays on offense too,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: of course. Yeah.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: But but I'm saying, like from if I'm Travis Hunter, yeah,
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: I'm going to be a shutdown corner, but I still
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: want my reps scoring touchdowns and doing all that too.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: We forget what he did in his last game as
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: a wide receiver against the Rams.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: He was finally had his breakout game as a wide receiver.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: So and I've heard it, he's been good as a
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: wide receiver in the summer.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: You guys watch it all. Yeah, yeah, So he's going
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: to get reps at wide receiver. So if he's a
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: shutdown corner and he scores six touchdowns and does it
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: in electrifying fashion, he's still going to get all those commercials.
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: No, No, I hear you, and listen, I'm with you. I
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: want to see him more on defense.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: I do an offense selfishly, because and I said this
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: last year, how many times we watched the Jaguars last
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: year towards the second half of the season without him
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: in and said we need him on offense. I'm pretty good,
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: Parker Washington. You know, Jacobe Myers and then Brian Thomas Jr.
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: How many times you watched the Jagars defense and say, man,
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: if we had Travis Hunter out there around taking that one, well,
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: that Bill's game.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I definitely thought it. I know that for sure.
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, ke On Coleman going off out of nowhere, he
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: was crazy.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: That was rude. I don't I didn't actually want to
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: go back to that. But as far as camps go,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: what I've been impressed with. Obviously he's physically superhuman, he's crazy,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: but he's also been picking things up. I think a
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: little bit more, having a full year with both playbooks,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: because he's got two playbooks to learn defense is natural
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: for him. But I know he's in the virtual meeting
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: room and he's always working out there with extra, with coaches,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: working out extra, and I feel the mental is is
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: finally getting there. Just the little things when you go
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: to the NFL. Obviously picking up that kind of a
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: playbook and a complicated one for Liam Cohen's offense, it takes.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Time well, and they wanted him on offense last year
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: because it is harder to learn learn the offense. He
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: you know, defense he can learn and he has learned it,
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: but it was much tougher on the offensive side of
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: the ball. So I think that's where they wanted to
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: get him acclimated early. It wasn't necessarily he was going
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: to be just a wide receiver. He was just learning
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: the offense for most of the seas is tough to do.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's the thing too, Like, especially at the
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: wider serier position. It's hard enough already getting off the
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: line of scrimmage trying to create separation, but then know
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: the motions to know this snap count, to know that
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: timing it just you need reps, like to read.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: The coverages on the run.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, there are so many young receivers who come
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: into the league that when they read coverages on the run,
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: it slows them down and they're not as fast and
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: quick as they will be in their second year. That's
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: why I think that's why they're excited about him as
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: a wide receiver in the second year, because he knows
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: the offense and he's gonna play a lot faster and
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: he played pretty fast in that last game against the Rams.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: As opposed to defenser, It's like, all right, see that
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: wide receiver, go cover them.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: And when you do that, that enables you to do
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: stuff on the other side of the field where you
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: don't have you could you can match him on a
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: wide receiver on one side and play your zone coverages
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: on the other side, do some stuff off of that.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: I think Campaneil is gonna be even more creative this
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: year with what he can do. You know, last year
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: they played a lot of zone behind everything. I think
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: with him out there, you can play man and you
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: can zone it up on the other side.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: You can get really creative. I think I think he's
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: gonna have a great year. Called defenses, you say that.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I talked to Trevor Lawrence for our TV meetings last
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: week before the game, and I asked him kind of
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: who was making it hard for him on defense this year,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: who was kind of flashing and he gave me a
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: couple of names, But he also said just in general,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: the new wrinkles they've added to the defense, he said,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: have been really difficult for him and challenging him as
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: a quarterback. He's excited to see how it looks on
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: other people. He says for himself, he feels like it's
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: helped him grow a lot in training camp. But what
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: camp has been able to do this second year now
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: that everybody knows it. They've added a lot of different
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: things and he feels like even he who goes up
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: against it every day is picking up new stuff. So
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I think having both coordinators back, I know we've touched
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: on it before, but that has just been so huge
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: for this team because they overachieved in that year one
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: and both of those guys had head coaching interviews, but
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: to have them both back has been huge.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: You know, it's funny you say that about Trevor, and
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: like I mentioned you guys, I'm working on a big
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: story on what has happened to the NFL passing game.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: You know, the numbers last year were the lowest they
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: were since two thousand and seven for yards per team,
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: and you would think that this would be an era
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: where we're seeing more pass but all the different the
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: defense is ahead of the offense now and it's up
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: to the offense to try and get it back because
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: they have so many exotic looks and you know, we
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: talk about Campanelli and his exotic looks. But like I'm
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: in Buffalo, Jim Leonard has a ton of exotic looks.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: You go, you know, you talk to the coaches and
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: the quarterbacks, and I talked a bunch, and I talked
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: to Trevor.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I talked to Liam.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: It's so complicated now because you come to the line
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: of scrimmage and they're rotating as you're snapping the ball,
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: and you think, you see you know, it used to
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: be a guy would go in motion and you'd have
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: a man indicator if he went with him. Well, now
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: they go with them and they play zone off of that,
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: so the indicators are different. It's so much it's so
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: much more complicated. And Trevor said, it's hard to adjust
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: to it. Like he mentioned to you, you know what
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: what's his name with Josh Allen was talking about how
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: tough it is.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: It's hard.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: Well, and I wrote this actually an article for Jaguars
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: dot Com when everyone was talking Outkay twelve thirteen person.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Now they're going to copy the Rams. I think they're
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: going to copy the Rams on defense as well. The
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: Rams ran dime defense over thirty percent of the time
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: last year in the NFL, and you mentioned to Pete
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: like the defense is far ahead right now than were
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: the offenses. It's because the safety position where safety is now,
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: they're they're more athletic, they're bigger, faster, and stronger, and
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: they're almost like another linebacker.
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: So if you look at what coach Camp's trying to
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: do this year compared to last year, I think he
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: wanted to be more dynamic last year. But that Texans game,
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: I felt like was kind of the litmus test where
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: guy's got a position, who's Davis Mills right, ran that
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: touchdown and to win the game. Yeah, Davis Mills runs
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: that touchdown and everything. And after that game they simplified
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: stuff and it worked like they were great in the
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: run game. They were okay in the past game. I
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: expect this year if the defense take a giant step forward,
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: you're going to see a lot of bunch of guys
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: standing up on the defensive line. You're going to see
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: more exotic looks because that's where the NFL is going now.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: So plus, you had dew We playing in concrete every
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: time rams over the top.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: He was playing concrete.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Well, he's reunited with JP now and they're in the desert,
• 37:51
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• 38:04
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• 38:17
  Speaker 6: It was good.
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: I thought the communication was solid. Thot granted a nice
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: job kind of settling at halftime. I've been in those
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: moments where you're not a lot's working and you're frustrated
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: and you don't really have a ton to go do,
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: and it was really just like, let's just go downhill
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: and just run and run it and get downhill. And
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: I thought he did a nice job of mixing it
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: up when he needed to, and he was calm, cool, collected.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: I was happy for.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Him, Jaguars, said coach Liam Cohen. Given his offensive coordinator
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Grant Yedinsky, the I guess luxury gift. I mean, when
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: you have these players out there, I don't know if
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: it's as much you have to be a little more
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: creative maybe, but he lets him call plays throughout the preseason,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: so give him that opportunity. Obviously, he's been out on
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: head coaching interviews and now I'll have those reps as well,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: and with some of those guys, you got to get
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: a little creative with it.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: I think it's a good thing to give him that experience.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: But Grant you talk to people all over the league,
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: and he had great interviews. They were like in Buffalo,
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: I know we interviewed up there. They were impressed with him,
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: and so I think it's going to happen this year.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: It's a matter of the right fit, and I.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Think if they if they're good again, I think both
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: of them are going to end up getting head coached.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: I don't think either of them are going to be
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: here very long. No coach Camp is definitely going to
• 39:29
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  Speaker 2: of course, and I like to check in with AI
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: ever occasionally. But you know, we wanted to know when
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: his NFL cutdown day this year, and while we do
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: know what it is, so this is apparently for JP,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: they still have not I have not made the cut
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: just yet.
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: Wow, well, I'm sure it's probably it still does. It's like,
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: you know, co Pilon ship.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: If you say cop Island.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Hey, did JP really do a press conference when he
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: went to Arizona?
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: He did? He did.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: He's a big deal.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: Did you see that the hands of the podium too,
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: by the way, Yeah.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: The best part was him pretending like he didn't want
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: to be up there.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: We know JP wanted to be up there, maybe for
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: an hour longer.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: He probably did. You think you can cut down this
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: team right now? But official cutdown day is going to
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: be August thirtieth. It's two days earlier than actually and
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: then it usually is it's on the Tuesday. Now it's
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: on the Sunday night. But Pete, how many roster spots
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: you think they're actually open right now on this team?
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: Well, if everybody's healthy it's probably like four or five.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: More than I don't even know if it's that many.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the final corner, Okay, one or two offensive line,
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: one or two offense.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: We'll never agree about the linebackers apparently.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe one of the linebackers.
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: Defensive end.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that the D line. There's a bunch of questions.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: So probably not sure where they got four or.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: Five depending on special teams too. You got to that
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: last corner has got to be able to play special teams.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: The last linebackers got to be able to play special teams.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: They do the one cut now, but I feel like
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: growing up they did the multiple cuts were you Was
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: it multiple cuts for you or is it one cut?
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: It was multiple cuts for me.
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: So there was like the first cut down period and
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: then a couple of days later then or like.
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: I guess a week later that would be like the
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: final fifty three.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: The first cutdown period.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: Everybody that gets cut in the first cutdown period, they
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: know they should be cut.
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's kind of formality.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: The stress level, like you already knew you were out
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: your first cut.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: Like there are guys around the league and like I
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: told Brandon, being the Bills gym, I go, I can
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: cut your team right now, and he goes Kenya, and
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: I go, he goes within four or five and I
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: went through it and I said, well did I and
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: he goes, yeah, pretty colol. Yeah yeah, I mean, because
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: it really is, even in May, you could basically do it.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: You know, you have an idea. Again, it's four or
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: five guys at the back end who can play.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: On special teams. That's the tough cuts.
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, what is Peter Troy the practice squad right
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: because especially now, I mean, anybody can be in the
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: practice squad Like.
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: Back when I was playing.
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: If you got some some game experience, that's it. There's
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: no practice squad for you. So like that's the incentive
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: now for everyone that's you know, in these preseason games
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: or maybe the writings on the wall a little bit, Well,
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: can you go out there, put a good you know,
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: film on tape and everything and maybe get a practice
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: squad spot.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Because there's part of it is we don't take into
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: account that there.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Might be guys on other teams that can come in
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: here too.
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Sure, So you're checking the waiver wires and seeing if
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: you want to grab somebody else and back up.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Like a backup quarterback.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: That would be great. At that would be great. I
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: think what's interesting about this team too, is I forget myself,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: is you know, they're really only in the second year
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: of this these they are still building a roster for themselves.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: It's like all of those guys came in last year.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: This is a team they inherited, and yes, they did
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: amazing and probably overachieved in year one, but there's a
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: lot of places where year two is still very much
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: part of a rebuild. So we have to remind ourselves that.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: And I think like when they go to the draft
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: and they get two tight ends, that's something I remind
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: myself with them, like, oh, yeah, they're still building around this.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: Well the other the other part of that, the rebuild
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: happens quicker when your coaching quarterback are it.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: And I think, yeah, when you have that set, and.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: I think they both have it now. You know, there
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: are a lot of people out there questioning Trevor Lawrence.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: I look, there were times where you did question him.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: I think he always had this in him. He just
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: needed to get the right coaching around him, and I
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: think he does now and he understands the game. And
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: Liam Cohne. The one thing we didn't know. We talked
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: about this last year. We didn't know how he would
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: handle the room. We thought he'd be a great play
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: caller and a guy could build great offense, and he can,
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: but how would he handle the room? And everything you
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: hear about him is he's been fantastic with it. He
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: knows when the push, knows when the pull, has a
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: great rapport with his players. But yet he's tough enough
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: and stern enough with him. That's the one thing you
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: don't know. Like the guys asked me when I was
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: in Buffalo, how do you think Joe Brady will do?
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: We don't know. I think he's a good play caller.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: I think he'll put together a good offense, but we
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: don't know how he's going to hand handle the room
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: and what happens when things go bad if you have
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: tough situations.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Liam Cone handled that man year. So now you have
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: the coach and the quarterback.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: You know, everybody always talks about this team doesn't get
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: back to back good seasons. Did they ever have the
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: coaching quarterback? I mean, other than off when Brunell we're
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: here in a while.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: No, I just felt like it yeah, And I always
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: say it's about a head coach, Pete. It's the head
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: coach has to be a direct reflection of the city
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: that he coaches in. And I think in terms of
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: representing Jacksonville, I think that's Liam Cohen. You always get
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: the underdog vibe from Liam Cohen. Right, let's keep mind
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: re started. We'll keep my race starting from duvall. Right,
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: that's where it started, right, and everyone's you know, giving
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: him a hard time and everything. And then you fast
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: forward and now it's like he's this brand new guy, right,
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: and he's got a swagger. There's a bit of an
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: attitude in terms of, you know, people want to say
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: something about him, He's gonna bring it up.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: And that's rare Pete.
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: And then I fell in terms of saying, like a
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: ni Plannelyst wants to tweet something, he has no problem
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: using that on the bulletin.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Boards you're looking for it.
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, some coaches will be like, it's a distraction, We're
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: just gonna focus on ourselves. He's the exact opposite. And
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: I feel like that's what the city at Jacksonville is
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: sometimes like, Okay, we're not Miami, right, Pete with Miami.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: We don't have the glitz and the glamour. We don't
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: have Disney in Orlando, and we don't even have like
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: Tampa per se. But like where Jacksonville, it's blue collar.
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: It's hard work, and that's what I feel like Liam
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: Cohen's all about.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: And the organization has been just crapped on for years
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: by people outside the city. Outside the city, and they
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: laugh about him. They're going to go to London. They're
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: doing this, they're doing that. The stadium is no good,
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: this is no good. Nobody gets Pro Bowl votes, nobody.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: You know, Fred Taylor can't get in the Hall of Fame.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's ridiculous gravesty. And it's all because Jacksonville.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: It's because of Jacksonville. And he you're right, he takes
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: that and runs with it. And I think that's kind
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: of what they're building here.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: It's just like when Tony gets all mad when everybody
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: says consensus board and he starts taking shots all over
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: the place at him. Again, that irritates him, but they.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Push back on it. I think it's kind of refreshing,
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: to be honest with you.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: As much as we poke fund at Tony, he really
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: is the glue that pulled it all together. I think too,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: because when you talk about what Jacksonville is it it's
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: a very unique situation. And as much as Liam Cohen
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: fits into that, having Liam here to bridge that, especially
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: James Gladstone as well as think, is what's made this
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: kind of work perfectly together. And he's adopted the hoodie lifestyle.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: Don't give him any credit, Please do not, I say,
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: have that guy any credit.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: I work in the building, I still have to be.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: I'm in the building today and I'm not giving you're here.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: He was getting mad at me.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: We did a little bit of a goodbye thing with
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: JP last Thursday. Was that last two Thursday ago? And
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: and Tony was getting mad at me because I was
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: bringing up the hoodie again.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: He goes, you got an infatuation with.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: My I mean he said he wore He never wore
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: it before Gladstone got here. He's a liar. And now
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: the Gladstone's here, they both wear it. He wears even
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: Liam wears him now too.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, they're all very similarly styled. But I think to
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: be fair to Tony, he's got a new ward he
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: had to get a new wardrobe.
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: He did I mean when it's the middle of training
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: camp though it's one hundred degrees, we still rock in the.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Hood sun protection, a little sun hunt.
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: I guess I see you go to the tan over there.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: People. We got it.
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, let him know about it.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: We got a whole nother hour head stick with Uzer
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: for the second hour, Jaguars Happy Hour and the Jaguars
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Digital Network welcome back into the Second Hour. Jaguars Happy
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: are presented by mister Chubby's Wings. Before the game, after game,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: during the game, Kindunty seasons here with Pete Prisco and
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Austin Lane and we finally got some football to talk about,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: a little bit of football to talk about. It is
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: preseason football, but they actually were in a game, and
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: we had a joint practice with the Saints, which I
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: can fill you guys in on a little bit as well.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: The first of three joint practices we're going to see
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: for this team, as this is kind of the way
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Liam Cohen wants to go with his squad. First, we're
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: going to open up with the opening drive, presented by
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Target zero. Let's get everyone home safely, so we'll start
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: out with the game itself. Jaguars able to get another
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: last second win in New Orleans, similar to what they
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: did last preseason twenty four to twenty over the Saints
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: back kickoff, sloppy start, not what you wanted to see
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: out of the quarterback play, but they figured out in
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: the second half. They're like, all right, let's just rush
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: it and figure that out. Some interesting play calling from
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Grant Yedinsky got that little nifty touchdown there for a
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: hunter long and then able to hold on in the end.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: And from what we saw out of them in terms
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: of the preseason, those are not the starters, but we
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: will now from what we're hearing from Liam Cohen, see
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: some of the starters on Friday. But joint practice is
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: so important, Pete and they were able to go over
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: two hours in New Orleans with the Saints, and this
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: week they will have the Panthers in town. But have
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: you seen a lot of other places that have shifted
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: to this focus as well as trying to get the
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: reps and joint practice rather than the game.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: I think that's where it's going.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the preseason, look, when they go to
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: eighteen games, bare minimum is going to be two, but
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: it might end up being one. And I think the
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: joint practices are better. And in fact, I back in
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: the day, I suggested they should have a joint practice
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: at a place away from the like the facility. For example,
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: if you went to like somewhere in South Georgia and
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: worked out with the Falcons and we're both there like
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: a high school.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Stadium, and you drew in some of those fans.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: You know, because those markets might be a little intact,
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: you know, and you know, Tampa and Miami could do
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: it somewhere in between, and other teams could do that,
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: and that way you kind of draw in the fan base,
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: but you give them kind of like a it's not
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: a scrimmage, but it's like a practice where you get
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: up tempo and you get it going. So I think
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: something like that would make sense because I think the
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: preseason sticks. It's all it's not good quality interally, Yeah,
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: it's it's not the best quality.
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: It's see this isn't the player of me speaking right
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: where well, yeah, And I truly feel like, you know,
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: whether it's back when I played twenty ten or whether
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: it's now like there's still creatures of habit and I
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: think what it feels like to go on that lock
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: or put that game Jersey on, get ready for that pregame,
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: and then go on the field and actually take part
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: in meaningful reps in that preseason game compared to going
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: through a practice against another team with different kind of
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: helmets and everything.
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: It's different now.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: I understand the most important part is keeping your players healthy,
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: and obviously the quarterback and Trevor Lawrence as a huge
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: part of that. But I also don't want you to
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: get your first reps of live tackling against the Cleveland
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: Brook one.
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: And that's what it is right now.
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: I mean, we'll see if they you know, Liam Cohen
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: hinted that they might be playing against Carolina that's the case. Well,
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: Caroen may be playing their ones as well, because if
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: you watch their last preseason game against Buffalo three and
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: out three and out three and out.
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: Twos go in, right, So they have a lot to
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: prove as well.
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: So maybe you get some great work one on ones
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: in that preseason game and then don't play.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: And don't play anybody in the last one exactly.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: Now that's different now though, because if you don't play
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: anybody in the last one, then they go.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: What three weeks without playing.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: The same problem just talking.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Tackling anybody, hitting anybody. So it's tough.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: Now. Back in the day, one of the things Cofflin
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: used to do he play them through in week three,
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: they'd play. They wanted to make it what it's like
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: to come out of the tunnel and make some adjustments
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: and play in.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: The third quarter.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, So it's it's definitely changed. And there
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: are certain guys that probably, you know, anybody who's a
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: little banged up should never play. I don't think you know,
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: if if if not worth the rest, if it was
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: a reculd season game and you could play with an
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: injury and you don't play him in the preseason, that's dull.
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: Well, and like once again, if you're like a if
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: you're a Foyer Lugan, like, I'm sure he's seen it already, right,
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: So do you really need him out there for a
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: whole quarter showcasing his skills? Like, no, you're confident with that.
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: But like, what I wouldn't mind seeing are guys like
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: Tuton LeQuinn Allen and Chris Rodriguez.
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: Because while it's gonna be probably.
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: A running back by committee, I don't know who's gonna
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: get the lion shares of the reps right now, and
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: we haven't really seen the live reps to sell Okay, well,
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: I mean, is Rodriga is gonna be the guy?
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: Is Is Toutin gonna be the guy? Like I gotta
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: see some live reps.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: I think Touton's going to be the guy.
• 51:55
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: They really like. I think it's gonna be situational. They're
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: going to be as close to as a committee as
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: they can be, I think. And they really like Chris
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Rodriguez and they keep saying you're not going to see
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: it until he's got the pads on and he's in
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: a real game.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: And shorty, he's going to be those guys the home
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: run threat is too.
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing, and it's it's ironic because you
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: have the same problem on defense as you do on offense,
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: whether it's the outside the off the ball linebacker with
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: Branson Combs or Ventro Miller, it's Chris Rodriguez in Twoton.
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: You have one group of guys who is all about
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: the mentality and physicality Ventro Miller and then Chris Rodriguez
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: like the they deliver punishment, and then you have more
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: diverse guys, more guys that can do maybe more things
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: that in terms of catching the football or playing coverage
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: like Branson Combs, you have guys that are more versatile.
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: Do you go with more of like the physicality standpoint
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: or do you go with more of like the versatility,
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: because that's what it is.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: I think I want the home run threat.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: You will, you're flashy. You just want the home run a.
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: Threat, and he has a home run threat.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, you go back to the Bills game.
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: Why he didn't get more carries in that game is
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: one of the great mysteries of the year. What do
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: he ended up that day with like forty seven yards
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: on like four carries or something like.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but his average, Yeah it was.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: It was crazy and he didn't get the touches.
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: But if you listen to what Liam Cohen's been saying
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: that they want to be physical, they want to be physical.
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: That's Chris Rodriguez.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: I think one thing that I have heard is that
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: Touton has been better in between put his foot in
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: the ground and going.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: And that's when he needed to improve upon. This interest
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: need to see that.
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: But but Etn was supposedly a good runner between the tackles,
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: and he wasn't or eight chan or whatever his name
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: is now.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: And he was just okay between the tackles.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: He was a good football player. But that's another thing
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: that people talk around about the league. Oh they lost
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: him and Devin Lloyd.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: That's not lost it. Those aren't losses. I'm sorry, they're
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: just not.
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: And you know how I feel about it, Pete, because
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: I was the big caveat of trying to pay him
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: and Travis A. Chane etn has we're calling him. But
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: I do think it was a lost cause. I think
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: they're still trying to replace him. Like I think he
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: was a guy that could run between the tackles and
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: may not have been the prettiest, but he could run
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: between the tackles. I don't think he was a good
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: runner before, but see I disagree, but also he was
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: didn't He was an extension of the run game though too.
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: When the run game is shut down, who is the
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: guy getting all the shorts in a minute?
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: Pass?
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: But I think you could use the other guy. Yeah,
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: I think I think we're still in the passing game.
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: I think he can well you can use you're not
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: gonna use it.
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: Chris Riguez has what six receptions?
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: That's why better. That's why Too is the starting running
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: back and should be the starting run back. You can
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: use him in the screen game. You can get him
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: outside in space, you can run him. He can give
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: you the big play. And look, he had fumbling issues
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: that was a concern. He kind of kind of got
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: over those. But I I think Rodriguez is a guy
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: who comes in and spells him and gives the short yardage.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: You know that when they're when are third and one
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: and you need a guy to make sure three yards,
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: that's him.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: I think he might be more of a first and
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: ten guy, where you're instead of getting two, you might
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: get three, four, five.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: And then I'd rather have thirty three. I mean, I'd
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: rather have two.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: But is that always an option. Part of this is
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: blocking as well, So I don't want to put it
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: all up, but I.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: Think I think if you limit yourself to that, you're
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: talking about a grinder back.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: That's what you're talking about.
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: This team needs home run back and grinder They need
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: grinder back. When you need to run, sure, I'll give
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: you that. If you're in the fourth quarter and you
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: need to run, then you give it the grinder back.
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: I think Tune's going to offer you obviously more in
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: the past game, so he's gonna get a lot more reps,
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: I feel like, but I'm not going to be surprised
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: if it's weak win against Cleveland and the very first
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: carry goes to Chris Rodriguez, just to establish that line
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: of scrimmage, because listen, when I went to that first
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: padded practice of of of.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: The track, the first play they do run through.
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: The very first play was Chris Rodriguez, and it was
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: really the Caleb rand Saw Welcome the NFL moment because
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: Caleb Brant I try to meet him in the whole
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: and it spoiler didn't go the best for Caleb Brands.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: Chris Rodriguez is a nice player, is a good addition
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: to this team. I just think I don't think he
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: has the home I think you want home run speed.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: You want somebody.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Scared to be the hot hand thing as well too,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: like which hopefully they play into because when we're talking
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: about tooting and when he did have the hot hand
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: in the playoff game or another game, keep feeding him
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: the ball didn't give it to him and they didn't.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: But I'll have to see what That's going to.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: Be interesting to see that. But I'd like to see
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: them them play too. Yeah, I'd like to see I'd
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: like to see toot and play. Hey, here you go,
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: you're the starter, Go ahead, go do some switching preseason?
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Do you feel like, I'm curious as a player, did
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: you feel like if you were ever like kind of
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: fighting for a roster spot, did you feel like what
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: you did in the game was more important in a
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: preseason game or do you feel like throughout the week
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: was more showing to your coaches?
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: It's the game all day especially.
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So when I was in Chicago and it was
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: literally a coin flip between me, a guy by named
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: of Cornelius Washington, and David Bass, it was it was
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: between us three. And you know, I was definitely one
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: of those try hard practice guys, right, like, gave it
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: all his all every single practice. The point of practice,
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: especially in the preseason and training camp, is that it
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: gets you reps for the preseason game.
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: Like players don't get signed based off of practice reps.
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: Players get more love and more reps in the preseason
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: game because of practice. So the coaches will always watch
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: the game film first in terms of like what you're
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: capable of, and that's what they judge you off.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: But like you, I work with Kyle Long, you get
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: too got into it. He can't.
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: But I would rather see you work against him than
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: the third team tackle on a on another team, So
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: that from that standpoint, those practice reps are more important
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: than the games.
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: So it's like I said, I think the practice reps
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: that get you to the dance the preseason game. Now
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: what you do on the dance for what kind of
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: moves you have, that's all on you. Like if if
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: you can't cut a rug in the preseason game, it
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: doesn't matter.
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: But if you're working against the guy is going to
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: be a bouncer and a bartender in six weeks. Right now,
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: if you're doing what you're doing against the first team tackle,
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, I go okay, or even
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: the swing tackle then I'll go okay.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But if you're working against the guy it's not
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: going to be in the league.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: You kind of kind of look at that and go,
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: I'd rather see him doing against our starters. And if
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: he goes in against our starters and he's having good
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: practices against those guys, now all of a sudden, I say,
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: let's put this up and watch that rep.
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's like I said, I just think it's
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: it'll get you the practice reps, get you the game reps,
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: and what you do in the game is really going
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: to be determined on if you can make the team
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: or not. Like I had great practice reps and the
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: game will never forget. It was the last preseason game
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: against the Cleveland Browns. Johnny Monzel was the quarterback. Now, well,
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: we didn't game.
• 58:07
  Speaker 6: Plan at all for this at all, and you never do, right, and.
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: I don't want to call you, but we had like
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: a seven year old coach who could care less about us,
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: you know, trying to make a team or anything. So
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: like we had a game plan really ourselves, and Johnny
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: Manzel broke mangles twice, like I missed a boot and
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: then I missed the container and he took off running.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Who are you working against the tackle?
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: Do you remember.
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: It was a starter for a bit, yeah, and then
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: it was the backup, but I don't remember who the
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: starter was because Thomas was long run behind them.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, I just always I'm very curious,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: like because I know, obviously people fighting for that roster
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: spot going into that final third game of the preseason
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: how much effect that really has. But I guess a
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: little bit of last year we kind of saw that
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: would be day Green and Strigo because they really showed
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: off in that last game against the Dolphins and they
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: ended up kind of working their way in and they
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: weren't they were undrafted guys.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: And they had good camps.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Though they did have good camps. It wasn't just the game,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: but I feel like that was more so maybe looks
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: like that. It's like the cherry on top of.
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: The exactly, here's the thing to like, say, you have
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: two guys that are in competition, right and they both
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: have great preseason games.
• 59:09
  Speaker 6: Well, then you start bringing back up that that.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: That camp was every day the camp.
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, it's just like last week when we did
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: that thing with JP and and Tony, I said, I
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: can cut your team right now. And he's like, well,
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: did you think stragell uh and Bja dream we're going
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: to be on the.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: Team last year? And I said, I think when we
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: did it.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: I think I think you did it.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah right, and we cut the team.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: He definitely had at least one, I think, if not both. Yeah,
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: because they were kind of towards the end.
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: They definitely were, because it's not like they're a team
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: full of Miles Garretts or anything.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: It was a little a little lighter in that department
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: last year, so it's a little easier to predict whom
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: I make the roster. But yeah, it's been fun so far,
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: and I think I'm glad they're not doing the cuts
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: this week. I'm glad we're doing it a little bit.
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: I think the joint practices are are really good for
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: because the intensity goes up, you're you're playing somebody else,
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: and you're right, it's not live tackling, which you need
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: to do.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: I think more of it.
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: It'd be great if these joint practices actually were live tackling.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 6: Everyone to watch. I would sell to tickets to that.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: I've come watch that game of course.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Of course, all right, well we're not going to cut
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: it down just yet, but we are going to talk
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: a little bit more about these roster spots coming up
• 1:00:12
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• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: They all are very talented, but it's like, all right,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 7: just what how do we get on the same page
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 7: about what's best for everybody?
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 7: Like it might be best for Travis to be impressed here,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 7: But is that what's best for the next guy, or
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 7: that you know the guy inside, or you know, how
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 7: are we playing two man stacks and bunches, you know,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 7: being on the same page on all of that stuff.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 7: How important that is so that you're not thinking to
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 7: slow down your play.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: Welcome back in. That's Liam Cohen talking about the secondary
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: kay here with Austin and Pete, and we've talked a
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: little bit about this, but Travis Hunter, he's back out there.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: He's your number one corner if you had forgotten. But
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: what does that mean for the rest of the dB room? Pete?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: When you got your number one corner back, And we've
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: talked a little bit of what the roster might look like.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: It pushes everybody else down. How does it affect the
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: defensive scheme when he is out there?
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: Well, again, you can play man on one side of
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: the field and say you go cover him and he
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: play zone on the other side of the field.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: And takes some of the pressure off of those guys.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: And I think that's it gives you the ability to
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: play more man, which they didn't play a ton of it.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: And I think you know, Tyson Campbell was miscast because
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: he likes to play man to man and I think
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: he in this scheme. I think he'll be able to cover.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: If he got the best receiver out there, you can
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: go lock him up if you want to. Now, you're
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: not gonna do that all the time. Nobody chas that
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: all the time, but I think it gives you options.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think also, I mean keep in mind
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: that Kansas City game he was taking Travis Kelcey a
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: little bit as well, where he's the type of versatile
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: player that whether it's a great tight end, whether you
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: know it's a great wide receiver, like you can put
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: him on there. You can kind of set it and
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: forget it. And that makes your job as a safety
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: and the opposite corner is so much easier because now
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: you can get help wherever you need it.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: Time now for keeping it real, brought to you by
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: Serve pro like it never even happen. And we're talking
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: about the defense. What this looks like on the final roster?
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Is it ten DB's if we're including the safeties in
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: the corners, what is this going to look like? Especially
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: because also this is the first scene of Caleb Bransaw,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: who was drafted last year, played corner. They kind of
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: want him as safety now or vice versa, depends where
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: they're going to utilize him. But what have you seen
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: from him so far on tape? Because Ransaw, this is
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: kind of the first game.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: Actually, yea, he wasn't like you mentioned earlier, it wasn't
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: great the other day. But again, he's the first time
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: he's out there, seeing his head spinning around a little bit.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: So well, I'm curious to see him going forward because
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: I think he's one of those pieces that they'd like
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: to be able to play in the dime. They can
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: move him around, he can play in the slot, he
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: can move around, and I think that's something you want
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: to do with him. So I do think the talent's there.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: And I heard he's had a great camp and so
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: he just wasn't flashing the other night, and I expected
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: to see more from him.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: And here's the thing too about Caleb Bransaw. To me,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: this is kind of a litmus test of James Gladstone's prowess,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: right because I talk about consensus boards and all this stuff. Well,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: if you remember who went before or who actually went
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: after Caleb Bransaw was Xavier Watts and Xavier Wats was
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: a consensus all American out of Notre Dame goes that Landon.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: He's making a name for himself already going into a
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: second year. Ransaw was the guy whereas, Okay, he's a cornerback,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: play a little safety, but they have a vision for him.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: Let's move into safety and see what happens. He gets hurt, right,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: and you're not gonna fault the GM for that. But
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: I'm really gonna pay attention to Caleb Bransaw this season
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: because to me, that was the first kind of out
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: of the box pick. I mean, Travis Hunter was Tralavis Hunter, right, excitement,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: all that stuff, sports entertainment if you want to call it.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: But Caleb Bransaw to me, was the first pick what
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: kind of made you go, hmmm, I wonder what the
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: plan is going to be here. So I'm really excited
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: to see if that plan come to fruition or not.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: By the way, he was on my better Than team too.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 6: Caleb Branson, are you gonna cut for this better than?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Were they calling and asking for advice or they probably
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: just saw the list when it went out.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: Are you be like an executive vice president junior or
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: something coming up here.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: Where's my Lulu Lemonhood, where's mine?
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: You still have a guy.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we start to lots some more preseason games and
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 6: I guess we'll.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: See one of the other rookies in the dB room.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: Jalen Husky to me, I know he made some mistakes
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: out there, not gonna say it was perfect, but the
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: effort is there and the athleticism is there, and I
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: think that's really unique because when we talk about what
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: the safety position lacked last season and what ended up
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: hurting them in the playoff game, getting that athleticism, physicality
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: and speed in the safety room is exciting for me
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: to see.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: It's exciting to see. And also the size too, right.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: I mean we can sit here and say how fast
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: Caleb brown saws, which he's got the game speed and everything.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 6: Husky has the speed in size, right. So when you
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: talk about.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: You know that safety maybe coming on the line of
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: scrimmage a little bit, stopping that run game, I mean,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: Husky's built for that. So yeah, obviously it wasn't perfect,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: and then you saw that in special teams a little bit.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: But I think they really liked this guy. He was
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: brought here for a reason, and I think he's gonna
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: be competing a lot for maybe that that dime package
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: in terms of who that safety is gonna be.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the concrete is gone. They're not playing in concrete
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: any They can move.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you want your safety, like you said, with
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: the new football the way it is, the new defenses,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: you want your safeties who can do a lot of
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: different things and can move.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: And they could. Both those guys can really move now.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: Murray he's so smart that he kind of compensates for
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: his ability not to run like them.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's smart.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: He's very smart. He feels like him and Jordan Lewis
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: really are the veteran presence that they need in that
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: room and pull everything together.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: They interesting one by the way, Jordan Lewis and Jari
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: and Jones. Oh, because who starts there, I have.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: To imagine it's Lewis.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: Hasn't Jones been great this offseason? And I thought he
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: played great football last year?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: For I would say it's Lewis because I mean, and
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: once again it's maybe more like the intangibles off the field.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: I feel like Lewis is kind of like that that
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: leader of the locker room a little bit like in
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: terms of the tenacity that he brings. Not to say
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: Jerian Jones doesn't either, because you know what Jerry Jones
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: did when Trevor got cheap shotted.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: He does. Yeah, But I just feel like Lewis is
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: one of the leaders.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: I feel like, what about Jones over Brown? Now you
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: paid Brown?
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: Hasn't. Jones had a really good off season and camp.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: You know what also we completely have forgotten about is
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Antonio Johnson, who was like the most improved player last
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: year and is much more physical.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: He's going to be used near the line of scrimmage,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: so that's what he is. When he comes down, then
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: you could put you could play Murray and Ransall or
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: Murray back there together. So I think that's that gives
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: him some flexibility as well. But as far as Jarran Jones, now,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: he was really good last year, surprised a ton of people,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: played so really with confidence and did a lot of
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: good things. Now I've heard when I was here in
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: the summer and May he was great, and everything I'm
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: hearing from is that he's been really good so far
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: with an attitude, playing with a real attitude.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: So how do you keep him off the field?
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: Well, and let me ask you. I mean, because right
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: now he's slated. I got that nickel. Do you think
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: he's more of a corner of nickel? Like, would you
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: think where would you put him?
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: I think he's more of a corner.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: I think he's more of a corner.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So where do you playing? Where do you play him?
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 6: I mean, well, Hunter's obviously getting at the starting.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: Corner one and then and you paid Monterrek Brown.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but if Jarion Jones is better than Monterrek Brown,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: I don't care, you still play him.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: You play the best players.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he played the one who's gonna Monterak Brown is
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: good when they zone up, that's what he's good at it.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: And he got better as a man demand guy last
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: year because you remember, for all those years when he
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: was trying to play nickel and he was covering guys
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: across the field, he couldn't do it. Yeah, he couldn't run.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: He talked about playing slow. He played slow well. But
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: he fit what they did last year.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: And that's the thing with this coaching staff too as well,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: is the best players are going to play right Like, yeah,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: I get it, yea, And Jordan Lewis you know I
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: may have been brought here for a reason to be
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: a leader and stuff, but like, if Jay and Jones
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: out plays him, there's not a reason to think that
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: Jaron Jones will be the starter.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: Then Jordan Lewis banged.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: Up a little bit.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: I think they he so he obviously had the foot
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: injury last year and then it was rehabbing in the
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: off season. I think they've been doing a little bit
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: of the work back in the way that they kind
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: of utilize Armstead, which is like practice, have a couple
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: of vet days off. That's kind of what I think
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: they've been doing because we didn't see him. Obviously didn't
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: dress and play, but I don't think he participated in
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: the joint practice. Yes, upper bow, leg, lower rest day.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: One of those guys, But I'm curious what you've been
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: to some of the practice Austin Jabbarmahammad has looked great
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: in training camp practice, then he gets picked on heavy
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: in a game. Is that one of those ones where
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, you're showing in camp, but then when
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: the game comes around.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: Here's the point about his performance against the Saints.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 6: There was some bad but then he finished good, right.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: And that's what the name of a dB is like
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: I know, and you.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: Know, let's go back to I think that was the
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 5: first run play of the game for the Saints where
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 5: and like I understand, like he was out a position,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: but it wasn't just.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: Him, no, right, there was comes was at a position to.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: Colbs misses, the tackle doesn't stay at.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: Home, and then.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: It's supposed to be uh Muhammad's job to make him
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: right when he goes inside. He doesn't make him right right,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: So there's just a mixed communication everything he had the
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: past interference to I believe Mohammad did.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: He did, Yeah, it was towards the end.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: It was good, but he finished strong. So like, is
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: that what I want out there week in week out?
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: Probably not. There's something that to be cleaned up. But
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: once again, like I'm not sure even to count on
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: him to be like my starting corner.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: But you guys, you guys have been here for all
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: the practice and stuff. But in May he was. They
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: were raving about him.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and earlier on in.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: Camp they were giving him. But I guess the last
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks it hasn't been as.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: Concerned as that. He's super smart. He uses the sideline
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: really well because the size isn't there. And I think
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: that's what showed up to me a little bit in
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: the game, was he was just getting work like they
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: were just picking on him a little bit. And he
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: doesn't run that well, I don't think.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: And so no, it.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: Doesn't have catchups. So if he's not, if he goes
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: the wrong way, he's not getting back in the place.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: I see what you're saying special teams was can he
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: perform on special nnedy?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, be a question. I mean they
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: got gunners. They got Lane is one gunner and who
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: who's the other gunner?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: Is uh?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: Because they have their guys, So I don't know. I
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: don't know what they do. I don't know what they
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: do with him. He's gonna have And they kept on
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: the practice squad, right.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: They did last year and they talked about his improvement.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: So maybe it's another practice squad years, I don't call it.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you'll keep the sixth corner.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think you will. When we've started looking at this,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think you do make him like a.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: Special teams like specialist, right, And well, that's.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: What the way he keeps plan, that's what you're doing
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: with Lane because he's the special he's.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: A special teams guy. He's like Thomas, was.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 6: This guy real quick?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: Because I feel like he stood out on special teams
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: and also on defense, yesterd'ydu. I forgot, I'll be honest,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: I kind of forgot all about him.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: I thought he.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: Came out to Yeah, was.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 6: He one of your.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: Yea by the way, we're gonna find I'm looking up.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: I don't, yeah, I thought he'd be better than that.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they've utilized him a ton just
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: to say that, but he has obviously had a huge
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: tackle on special teams. He got the strip sack and
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: and he has looked so impressive. I don't think you
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: ken kind him at this point, just his contributions on
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: special teams.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: Alone and and being that strong side backer where you're
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: not going to be utilized a lot and based defense
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: for three just because everyone's going to Nickel and Dime now.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 6: So he keeps well.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: He's a complish with Jill and McLeod and like McLeod's
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 5: been hurt.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: Like, do you think they keep all three?
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: I don't, No, I think I think yes, Abdullah, And
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: don't think you're gonna make him like the special team
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: special because you have like one specialist guy.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 6: You can say, I just think he's going to be
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 6: the death.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: This regime didn't draft Aba, doesn't matter Pete McLeod.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: And that's fine, But this regime also shows if you're
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: playing well, they're going to find a spot.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, right now, you would keep Abdullah over McCloud.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Would currently just because I've seen playing hurt.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the play made the other day where he came
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: up the field, missed the sack, came back and got
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: enforced the fall. I mean that was good. And then
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: he made a good special teams play. Yeah, he's he's
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: on the team.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: Obviously he was holding that whole defense together at one
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: point because it was looking pretty ugly, and special teams
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: for that matter, So it would have been real bad
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: if if they hadn't had on the team. Is this
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: the year? Do you think all the draft picks make it?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: This year's draft picks, Well, let's.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: Go through them. The two tight ends are making it.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 6: Yes, Husky's making its is making it.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: Regis is making it.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: Wide receivers are making To.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: Me, it comes down to West Limbs and Jeffrey.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: I think yeah, makes it.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: I think west Limbs makes it too. I think Derfy
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 5: gets put on the practice.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: And then the two wide receivers, so he's done, which
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: once I.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: Think he's he's back to squad because if you got
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: five reps in the preseason game, that leads me to
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: believe he's not.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's practice squad guy. So Williams will make the team.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: He was the fourth round.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 6: Er, fourth round.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: He's making the team. And and he's a big body.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: They want the big they love their big ends. They
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: can play their run. That's they that's what they want.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: So he'll make the team. But yeah, so not all
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: the draft picks, not at all. Not if the if
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: both wide receivers make which they should, then that's still
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: pretty good draft.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 5: And listen, here's a seven round pick. Like not every
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: sep round pick is going to make a roster unfortunately,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: And how many ends are you? You're going to keep
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: five ends? Probably?
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: So you got Trayvon, you got Trayvon, you got Josh Haines,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: Allen straight Green, Wesley Williams is five, and that's that's
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: the five.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 5: And if you want to count the edge, Gardict, but
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: I think yours is strong strong side.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: So that's five, and then inside you keep Hamilton the
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: other starter, Matt Dickerson, Armstead.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: You did not, Dad, is what you want to say?
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: First? I think is going to be a situational guy.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: You think so?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: I think, well he's had a heck of a camp.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: I'll give him that Armstead.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: That's a situation.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: That's three. And then who's.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 6: Regis Yeah? Yeah yeah. Also mentioned Brian Thomas Junior on defense.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: I love him there too. They do like some of
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: those other guys. Those those are practice squad guys. If
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: you can keep them, if.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: You keep if you keep ten, that's your ten. Yeah.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: Uh, I want people bring up you mentioned Matt Dickerson.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: I want to say this real quick because a lot
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 5: of people were surprised he didn't play at all him.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: So I asked.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 5: Foya Luke and if you if you talked to Foy
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: at all, No. So Foyer is like he's going to
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: be a GM one day. He's actually working with the
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: Timberwolves a little bit in their front office. Like he
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 5: has aspirations to be a gym, why not a coach?
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: I have no idea, But I asked him, like, who's
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: the guy that nobody talks about that we should be
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: talking about, and like within a second, Matt Dickerson said
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 5: that the guy does all the dirty work. He's an
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: absolute beast at defensive tackle and plays with a hand
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: violence that we need on defense.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: So I will tell you right now, I think he's
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: gonna start games this year.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Everyone's high on him, man.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, they do love him, and I think they'll rotate.
• 1:14:44
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  Speaker 9: I feel great. You know, I haven't been on the
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 9: football field in nine months, so you know, going out
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 9: there and being able to get those reps it feels great.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 9: You know, it's a lot of people out there saying
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 9: he caught a ball in travel. I mean, I ain't
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 9: been on the football fielding nine months. Let you expect,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 9: you know, but you know, I just take that and
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 9: just continue to go and work.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: It's Travis Hunter, wide receiver and TV. A little bigger,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: a little stronger, healthy out there. Rest he did.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: Hey, they let him become a big guy now. Huh.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: He's healthy. He's back.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: For a whole damn year.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 6: He's on twitch, man, he does his own streaming.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: He's already talking enough. He's doing his own lives.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: He needs to be more out there.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: I think he needs to talk for he needs to
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: protecting the protected him out looking on the right channels.
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  Speaker 5: You're still on Facebook trying to find that this guy's
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 5: on twitch and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Man, I think he I think he needs to do
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: more of that stuff right there.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: And I think we will see much more of Travis
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: Hunter this season.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 6: The JP hands on the on the podium too, he
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 6: was ready. Yes, they have command a little more.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, JP hands.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: We got some fair questions for Repete. These are from
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: a little bit of all of the off season. So
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: is Travis Hunter actually going to play on both sides
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: of the ball, because we get this question literally constantly
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: explain it to him. Pete, Just tell me, yes, he is.
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  Speaker 4: He's going to be a number one corner and a
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: spot in wide receiver, so third down, goal line, that
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: kind of thing. I think that's the plant, always was
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: the plan.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: We had all these reports.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: That's why he should be frustrated by what he hears,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: because so many different reports. And and you know, Cam
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: Wolf I think did it one time and I said Cam,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: I said that last year.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: No, he's here a lot too.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like Cam and and but I said Cam,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: I've been saying that since last septem He's going to
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: be a corner who spots in it wide receiver. That's
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: the plan. It always was the plan. And so I think, yes,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: he will play on both sides of the ball.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: I think we've all known that for a while. What
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: it ends up looking like, I do think also it's
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: going to be offensively a little bit of situational to
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: the game because depending what the opponent's doing, depending what's
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: in the game plan for the week. So nobody's panic
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: if week one it doesn't look the way you think
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: it's going to look.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: Well, And keep in mind to every end of a
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: player has got a certain ego to them. I mean
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: the ego of Travis Hunter came into the league and
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: what did the GM say about him? He's going to
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: change the game, right, So you can't be James Gladstone
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: say you're going to change the game. Well, yeah, you're
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: going to change the game on defense, and then we'll
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: put you in for two reps on offense.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 6: Like, it's not how it's going to be.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: Give me his offensive numbers at the end of the year.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: Write it down so we can bring their seats.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we want receeds.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 6: Okay, received.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: So I'm going to say it's going to be an average.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: Let's go three catches a game, So that's going to put.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: Us thirty sixty.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: Three three a game.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: So three fifty fifty one.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: That sounds high.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: Fifty interceptions. This is like a triple lock if I
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: get this right. Let's go with six touchdowns and then yards.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, take it for what you want.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: You know, are all the touchdowns on these are all
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: offensive touchdowns, You're not six situation.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you got to come up with the yards too,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: because I'm gonna do it too.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 6: Okay, the yards I need. Let's go like five eighty
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 6: on fifty.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: So he's a ten yard catch guy.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 5: He's working some bubbles.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: I think the catches, I think the catches are going
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: to be like thirty six. I think the yards will
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: be a little higher than what per per catch UPM
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: gonna give them thirteen, so multiply whatever that is?
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: What thirteen times thirty six?
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 6: You're asking the wrong person.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: It's not. We're not. We'll have to call that one in.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: I'll get your year round after creative.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: Right about just I'll give him four thirty or sorry, okay,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: four thirty and then thedowns the most important THINGE six.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: I like six. I was gonna say six anyway, So
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: we're an agreement on that one.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like you got to change it up, Pete.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 5: But if you want to run my coat tails, so
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 5: be Okay.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: I'll make it seven seven, because I do think he's
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: going to be in the red zone a lot thirty six. Actually,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: make it forty.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: We'll make it a round number forty forty catches.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: Forty catches, seven touchdowns, and I'm going to give him.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: I believe someone was in my year saying four sixty something.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: Make it five hundred, all right, and the time will tell,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: time will tell.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: No, I'm LESSA last game he played, he had over
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: one hundred yards receiving and a touchdown.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean did yeah against Rams defense.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: Which was not very good the back end, which is
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: why they went out and got two quarters.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: Say nothing, all right, Pete, who are the five offensive
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: linemen that you would start on week one for this team?
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: Is Van Lannon healthy?
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: Van Lannon is healthy and available?
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: It would be this is say, everybody's healthy.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: Harrison at left tackle, Pregnant at left.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: Guard week one. Ready, Hainesy will start Week one. I
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: probably could be okay with that. Cleveland would be the
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: right guard and and uh Van Landa would be the
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: right tackle.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: I'm going Harrison left tackle. I'm going Ezra, Like once again,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: I need you to see more from Pregnant, So give
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: me Ezra left guard.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: Haines yet center.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: McKay, I know, but.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 6: He's healthy, right, healthy? Okay?
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: So then mcarry, Yeah, McCarry, and then let's go call
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 5: b Atlanta at the right time.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: So you haven't changed one position on the from a
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: team that from the tea.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I spopped the tackles from there.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: Think about that.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: Austin, you were here, you were here in the beginning
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: at the getting of.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: The show, and you said and you said, they gott
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: to be a top ten rushing team, of course, So
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: you haven't changed the thing.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: I haven't because apparently wasn't worth the money.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: And now and it's gonna be, you know, because.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 6: According to you, we're good.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: You have to change something.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 6: I don't change anything, man, It's gonna be another year
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 6: in the system.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: Pete, you gotta put you gotta put a brood. You
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: gotta put a brood in there.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: We gotta put pregnant, pregnant in there then just to
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: make my son happy, he's a giant Oregon fan.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: And then there you go all the way.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't it wouldn't shock me at some point during
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: the season. I don't know if it's gonna happen earlier
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: season if it was pregnant Monheim and Myle.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: I think Mylam is going to be the first. Like
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: I know you guys want pregnant and that left. I
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: think Mylam depending on health and other things. I think
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: Milon might be in a right guard before if you don't,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: if you want pregnant, certainly on the left. I think
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: the right guard might be open space.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: McCarry can't play, yes right away, who plays?
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 4: And I don't know if he's necessarily gonna have the
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: guard a job anyways, So who is the starting right guard?
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 6: I think you then right.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: I think it's my unless you want to move, Unless
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: you want to. I feel like also with the offensive line,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: it's like you don't want to start moving everything around.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: Let's just say Pregnant won the left guard spot. Does
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: Cleveland start over mylam right guard? Yet?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: Him? I don't think he won the chance.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: Has he worked there though? Again I don't.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 5: I could have sworn in Minnesota he might have been
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: there for a little bit. Yeah, but like everyone swears
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 5: by athleticism, Well, let's put it to the test.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 6: Can you play the opposite side?
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 5: I would I would lean on the experience of Ezra
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 5: because I haead a mile ahead a Mileum.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you if you were going to put and
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: I think pregnant, I think Pregnant and Harrison next to
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: each other would give you a big, physical left side.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: You can run behind consistently.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: Whereas if if Cleveland's in there, it's not a big
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: physical left side. He's not as big, he's not as physical.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: He's athletic and probably smarter right now in terms of
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: the offense. But I think Pregnant supposed he done a
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: really good job picking up the offense too. Again, there
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: are little things that he's got to work on, but
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: I want power in there.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 6: He's powerful. I get it. You saw one preseason game
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 6: and we're changing the whole roster around.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: He's supposedly been really good. He really practices. So he
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: came in preaching they got to get to become a
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: top dead team.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: And then he kept the interior because I'm a confident
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 5: Tune man.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 6: You think Tune's gonna hit the you know, and he
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 6: was killing him on too. I was sold on Tune.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: He sold me. I think I think another year of
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: this offense to be more dynamic than thirteen personnel. The
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 5: twelve person on everything, I think that's only gonna help
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 5: things with that offensive line. So I think you can
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 5: keep that offensive line the same, bring in some more
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: wrinkles here with motions and thirteen personnel and everything, with
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: these tight ends that can block, I think you might
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: have something.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: And you played defensive line, of course, and so when you.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: Came when you played a guy and you looked across
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: and you saw a guy like pregnant standing next to Harrison.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: They look like they look like it looks like they
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: look doesn't pregnant looks.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 5: He looks the part. But number one, I wasn't worried
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 5: about guards play and I was about But but here's
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 5: the thing though, and I've spoken this before a little bit,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: with this twelve and thirteen personnel. I played against Qbiac
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: when he was in Houston calling plays, and like I
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 5: always like, yeah, you hate it playing against peyton Man
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 5: because Payton Man could check out the line and beat you.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: Kubiaks offense was the worst to play against. Not because
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: of the players they had, like that Owen Daniels, that
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 5: tight ending and I think Garrett Graham was another guy,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: and Posphor is an okay running back, but it was
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 5: it was their scheme that I hated playing against that
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 5: thirteen personnel where you don't know if it's going to
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: be runner pass, You're constantly playing on your heels because
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 5: everything's so disguised in play action. That's where I think
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: that the advantage is going to be for this offensive line.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 5: So if they can bring that thirteen personnel and keeping
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: defenses on their heels, then yeah, I'll run it back
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 5: with the same guys if they're all healthy. Because I'm
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: confident in the scheme more.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: Than yeah, but you still want to be physical. But
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: that's why you're running short yardage. Last year they weren't
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: physical enough. You want to be physical.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: It's all nice to do the you know, getting them out.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: He's you know, getting pulling them and moving them.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 6: Had one great play where he pancake the guy.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: And now, yeah, there were other players where he was.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: I thought he was.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 6: I got you.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: I thought it was better.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 6: I'm ready like gold jacket fitted.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: We touched on this a little bit. I'm not touching it.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: I want to change. They got to be a top
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: ten rushing team.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: But he doesn't make a change the changing the scheme.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: Peek, all right, how many edge rushers will make this
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: final roster? We talked this tough earlier to five or six?
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: Five?
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 6: I think five, yeah, five.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: And then we think kind of counts as the linebacker,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: but he counts as like a guy you could count
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: as a rusher to.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think derpy. They're gonna stash away on the
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 6: practice squad.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: Sash all right, and our final question from the fans, Pete,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: what did you think the JP's press.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: Conference typical JP cheese?
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, do you think he put that in the contract?
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: That he needed an introductory press conference because I've never
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: seen such as I never look at this guy element.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: You know what's funny, I never see guys who get
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: hired to do radio, to do the play by press.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: Conferences, like.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: Hired a guy it was you in the universe Washington, Yes,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: and then he didn't do a press.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: Usually like an interview. I think it's not normally at
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: the podium. Sorry, but the best part is it was
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: right after their head coach, but it was like in
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: the same stream head coach had his president.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: They did a bunch of stories. I've read a bunch
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: of stories on him, of course.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, I'm happy for JP. I really am.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: He's he's wanted to do that for a long time.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: Any any I know, he finished second in some jobs
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: and stuff.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: So this is good for him. I'm happy for him.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: I really am.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 6: Just so we're clips.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 5: I'm not trying to buil like the longest you know
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: person here on the Jago's happy.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 6: Are you good for this year.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: Like you do.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 6: Six or something like Prisco sextetes?
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: I'm the sole survivor the original. Yeah, I drove away.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: Tony has a good job. Seeker.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna do great things for us to go
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: somewhere else. We appreciate you, Pete. As always, we're gonna
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: got one more segment here. We're gonna go around the
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: NFL talk about some of the headlines for you on
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: Jaguar's Happy Hour presented by Chubby's Wings.
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  Speaker 8: Here we go the last playing the game inside.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 9: I know he kept it on his own.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 8: Reach and that one's knocked away and the Jags are
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 8: gonna win it.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 5: The Jags knocked it away.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 8: At Mohammed knocks it away and the Jags are forming
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 8: him and they win this first preseason game of the
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 8: year twenty four to twenty.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 4: Well, how good is that?
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: Frank Fringie with the call of the game presented by
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: Coyle Fence. Since nineteen twenty seven, we've been around the
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: block and fenced it too, at least in the preseason.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: It's not always the best product, but we did get
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: a pretty good game out of things in the end there.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: So that was a weird play call for them at
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: the field.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: The one receiver, Yeah, I don't know, they went for it.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: Let's hear a little bit from coach Cohen because he
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: talked today specifically, and I think he kind of changed
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: his mind up. Originally, I don't think they were playing
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: on playing the starters at all during the preseason, but
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: now considering what he's seen and where they're at with practice,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: he says, we're likely going to see him on Friday.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 7: I'm trending towards us potentially playing Friday Night a little
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 7: bit with the ones.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, So I think, well, that's the.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 7: Goal right now, is to look at potentially playing them
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 7: a little Friday night. You know, you just look at
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 7: the amount of padded days that we actually have left
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 7: until you know the game week, and it's very few
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 7: and far between. So you set a schedule, you set it,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 7: and you're like, well, timing and circumstances, things change and
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 7: when you have to pivot a little bit. And I
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 7: think we need a little bit more work in terms
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 7: of coming off of the Saints joint in the Saints game.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 7: I think we just need a little bit more padded
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 7: work against each other, good on good Peter.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: I don't think it needs to be a lot, but
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: I think we're gonna we need to see at least
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: one or two drives out of the offense, and then
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: whatever they need to do with the defense, Well.
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  Speaker 3: What if they have a good day on Wednesday of
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  Speaker 3: work against bet.
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  Speaker 6: He did a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: But also I feel like listen, like when it comes
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  Speaker 5: to physicality, like you just can't hope, like you have
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  Speaker 5: to see it for yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they cut practice today. They had pads on
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: or shoulder pads on for a little bit and then
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: they took them off the second half practice, So it
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: wasn't even a full day today either.
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  Speaker 6: And Ky, you were there.
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  Speaker 5: I wasn't there in New Orleans when they had that
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 5: joint practice, but by a lot of indications, it sounded
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 5: like New Orleans got the better of them in the
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  Speaker 5: trenches a little bit, not necessarily the whole practice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the offense, like we're talking about the
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: offensive line was similar situation because they're all banged up.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: So it was second third team out there. And I
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: think it was not as bad as Miami last year.
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  Speaker 2: If you remember that joint that was actually like I
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: was like, this is concerning me level of joint practice.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: It was not bad like that. I would say it
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: was a little bit more fifty to fifty, which is
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: probably how you want to split it. But yeah, they
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  Speaker 2: definitely could have been better.
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  Speaker 6: And if you're trying to be a physical team, like
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 6: the only way to get physical.
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  Speaker 5: Is to be physical in practice, Like you just can't
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 5: hope it's gonna work out Week one against Cleveland. So,
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  Speaker 5: I mean a lot of people I have talked to
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 5: are kind of shocked that Liam Cohn's even considering going
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: with the preseason ones and everything, because it's very Sean
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 5: McVay ask right that they don't do any kind of
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 5: you know, preseason with their ones. But it goes to
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  Speaker 5: show you the physicality isn't where it needs to be.
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  Speaker 5: So if it's not where it needs to be, then
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  Speaker 5: get the most out these guys in the one, you know,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 5: in preseason games, see what they got.
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  Speaker 3: But he didn leave himself out.
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  Speaker 2: But maybe this is a motivation tactic, right, what if
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: we're sapping it. What if he's like, I'm at this press,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say.
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  Speaker 8: This is the way.
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  Speaker 4: I have no problem with it, because I'm in agreement
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  Speaker 4: with you. I don't think these guys hit enough anymore.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: And it's sloppy and it doesn't have.
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  Speaker 2: To be two a days, but they do need to
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: get after it because I think we've seen it for
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: several teams the first couple of weeks don't look the
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: way the rest of the season looks. And that's for
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: a lot of teams that starts.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: And again we go back to the offensive line. The
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: reason offensive line. One of the reasons offensive line plays
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: stinks in this league as compared to what it used
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: to be is they don't hit correct. You have to
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: be able to five guys have to be able to
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: work and sink and hit, and you can't simulate that
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: with dummies.
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  Speaker 5: And I get it, like, you know, you're getting great
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 5: work with dummies and everything you see with the tackling
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 5: they have like these new like high tech tackling dummies
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 5: now like rugby players are using those are great and everything,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 5: but you can't substitute for live contact. You simply can't.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 5: There's nothing that you can do that substitute for that.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm not mad at it. Now, if somebody gets hurt,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 5: then I'm going to question and be like, well, what
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 5: are you thinking? But the way that it sits right now?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you even mentioned you want to see the Backs.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: The Backs got a run, got to run.
• 1:31:08
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• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: We love the plug. I'll go over some of the
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: scores in the preseason. It's preseason scores, so bear with me.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: But also some news today. Von Miller going to be
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: joining the Cowboys.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: A good thing for the Cowboys because Vaughn is a pro.
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  Speaker 10: Absolutely, and Vaughn had nine sacks, isn't it crazy? I
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 10: saw that, yeah, And I know Vaughn a long time.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 10: I saw I saw him at the Combine. I said,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 10: where are you going to go? He goes, maybe Washington back.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 10: They didn't take him back.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 4: They signed some other guys, and then he thought maybe Denver,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: but they didn't take him back, so he ended up
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: in the Cowboys. I think it's a great situation.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 5: It's not bad at Quentin Williams now where Shaun Gary
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 5: gets at it. From the Green Bay Packers. The obviously
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 5: strength the power there, and they got the speed hopefully
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 5: from you.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: After they drafted Lawrence in the first and first I.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: Mean he they got they got some players. That defense
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: going to be better. Cowboys. Watch out for the Cowboys, Pete.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: Is there a backup quarterback out there that you would
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: go get anybody you've seen in the preseason so far,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: because I know a lot of these matchups are preseason game.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 4: I would I would look at that third quarterback in
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: uh New Orleans, because I think Zach Wilson can at
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: least has an arm the arm strength to throw the football.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 4: I would explore Will Levis because I think he's going
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 4: to be somewhere else. I don't think they would trade
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: him to him. So there are guys out there.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll take all at Menshew too as well, just
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 5: because I think his IQ you can't.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: Come home, can't come on?
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: Is this home for him? Now? I mean all right?
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: Lions and Bengals. Bengals got the Lions, Packers nine, Steelers
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: twenty eight. How are the Steelers going to look this year?
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: What do you think this is going to look like
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: they're going to be?
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: The Steelers are going to be tough, feisty, physical, and
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 4: probably win eight or nine games and maybe take into
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 4: the playoffs. That's that's that's who they.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: Are, That's how they are always are. That Monday night
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: football match up here in December is one I've definitely
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: got circled on the calendar. I'm excited to see that.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: They've had some good history against the Steelers.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: On Monday Night Football, I got a tie between the
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: Colts and the Patriots. What are the Patriots going to
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: look like this season?
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 4: I think they could take a step back. I think
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 4: they won a lot of close games against an easy
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: schedule last year, and that's actually that's usually a common
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 4: da And plus, by the way, they didn't play very
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: well on offense in the postseason, and even at the
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 4: second half against Buffalo in the last week, they kind
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 4: of figured out Drake May a little bit.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: I'm curious to see what he does.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: I'm curious to see Drake May obviously shined at certain
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: points and now what this is going to look like.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: Part of that's his line and what the offensive line
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: is going to look like. But that's a question mark
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: I have as well. Charges twenty seven texts seven Cardinals
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: got their first preseason win over the Raiders.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: Looked good, but they ran under the ground and he
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: had a high ankle sprain.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: How serious of an injury is.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: High ankle spray? So you're talking about not somethings at least.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they can bug you for a while, and running
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: backs coming off high ankle sprain.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: If you look at the history, it's.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 6: Not great Mendoza.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: I thought Mendoza was really good. Yeah, yes, right away,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: put him in, put him in there.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: There's some time to go back on it. Are they
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: going to still go with what he just answered me? This?
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: What's the point of starting Kirk Cousins.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 6: All you're doing is more confidence to Mendoza.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: But all you do is delay any inevitable Every quarterback
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 4: I've ever talked to, every single one of them, I said,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 4: do you learn more playing in one game than you
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: do sitting watching for six or seven games? He goes
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 4: absolutely one game.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: Just play them, you learn. What's the concern you're gonna
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: ruine a psyche?
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 5: Well, you know what the concern is. I saw it
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 5: happen with playing Gabbett, that's the concern.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: Well, playing Gabtt was and I thought playing Gabbon is
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: gonna be good.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: But Chuck and Duck, Chuck and.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 6: Duck because it threw he wasn't ready and he hasn't been.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: Waited four years, and he wasn't going to be ready.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: But either have it or your don't true. Either have
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 4: it or you don't. And I think the sooner you
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 4: get on with it. In fact, Doug Peterson came in
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: and did some stuff with us. Yeah, and he came
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 4: in and did some stuff with me, and we were
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: talking about it, and he played Carson Wentz right away.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: And his old philosophy was the sooner you find out
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 4: about the guy, the better it is. Because now you're
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: just let's just say Santa Raiders won some games, Mindoze
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 4: is going to be and Cousins plays pretty good, Mindoze
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 4: is going to be pushed.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: Off even further. So you got to wait half the
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: season at least to find out what he is.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: The way Kirk Cousins and Max Carby are fighting too,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 5: I mean, who knows how long it is going to last.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 6: Man, that was crazy.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: I'd start the kid right away.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: One more one for you Titans and forty nine Ers.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: They had a joint practice and a game. One of
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: the Titans going to look like this season.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Cam Woard did not look good.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: He did not know his new offensive coordinator.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 4: It's not going to begin and I think Brian Dabel's
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 4: a good coach, But Cam Ward held the ball like
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: he still does, and that was if you're a Titans fan,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: that was a little concerning watch.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: I expected more from him this year.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: Do you think that's a situational issue where he's just
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: still nervous from all the beatings he took last year?
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: Get that out of his head.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: Maybe, But also Davie puts a lot on his quarterbacks,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 4: so maybe it's the first game it's a little.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: Overwhelming for him.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 5: Keep mind, though, they cut out seat oils this year
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 5: in the cafeteria. Oh yeah, that's all I got on that,
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 5: so I could.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: Pay some differ No good snacks in that building, so
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: he won't be distracted by that at all.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 4: What do you have in there? If there's no ceed oils, vegetables?
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 5: I guess.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: So you can't take my incrustables from me. I won't
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: let you have those.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 6: We've come a long way from fast food.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: They got new, they got new incrustables. No, they're they're
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: they're fat. I think Travis Kelsey.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: Is big on it. They're promoting it. It's called it's healthier.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 4: It's healthier.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 6: I can tell from Travis kel You read in Crustable.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: Burry is the best one by.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: The way, uncrustable debates will go on till next week.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, Austin P. Myself.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: You're jp here, the
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 5: Point guard between the question next week two as well
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 5: back that one.