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Hawkeye & Cyclone Spring Football thoughts, Eliot Clough talks Hawkeyes & Matt Postins on the Big 12 & Cyclones · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Hi, good afternoon. Welcome Millory Condon on a
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  Thursday. The Iowa Sports Radio Network,
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  Trent Condon and Ken Miller for the next couple of hours to talk
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  sports with you. Appreciate you starting your
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  afternoon with us. If you're listening on Des
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  Moines sports station one O 6.3 KX and O any of the fine
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  affiliates located throughout the state or anywhere on the
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  iheart app. Here's what's coming up on our
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  program. We are going to start.
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  Elliot Clough is going to be first up.
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  All the coordinators from the Iowa football program met with
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  the media yesterday. I thought some interesting
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  Nuggets came out of those conversations with Lester
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  Polizzi. Am I saying his name right?
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  I think so I. Think so too.
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  I know I got Phil Parker's name. Yes, I forgot that one.
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  They they all met with the media yesterday some.
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  It's pretty good. Read if you can find a
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  transcript. I know hawkeyereport.com has the
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  transcript posted there, so I'm sure other places have it as
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  well, but if you didn't happen to listen to it, you'd like to
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  read what they said. You can find it there, but we'll
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  pick Elliot's brain on that when he joins us here at about 12:25.
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  Then Matt Poston, who covers the Big 12, will preview a lot of
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  topics with with Matt. We'll do some basketball.
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  We'll do some football. How many Big 12 players here?
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  They are names called early in the draft here tonight.
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  By the way, happy NFL Draft round one day to those of you
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  who celebrate. It gets underway tonight, 7:00,
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  so we'll talk to Matt Poston. Cappy's here.
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  He'll start hour number two. He had to push back from his
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  normal time slot on Wednesday. He'll join us today at 1:00.
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  And then finally, the head of the Polk County I club is going
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  to join us. What can you tell us about this
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  Trent Condon, Addison Bouton, who joined us last year?
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  I want to sing right? Absolutely yes, and that'll be
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  coming up here in West Des Moines.
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  It will be on Wednesday, May 6th.
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  You can join the I Club online. Join the iclub.com is where you
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  can you. Have to be a member to go go to
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  this event. You do not, OK, Do not have to
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  be a member. Kirk Ference will be there.
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  Jan Jensen will be there for the men's basketball team.
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  Josh Sasha's going to be there and Gary Dolphin will be
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  presiding over it in the spring one that's next Wednesday, May
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  6th. So coming up here in a little
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  less than two weeks as they will have the Polk County spring
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  event each and every year. Always fun and good to mingle a
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  little bit with the coaches and and always hear Dolph.
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  He's he'll have a he'll have a zinger or two in there.
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  I wonder. How much time he's going to
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  what? How many more years he's going
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  to be calling games? It's a great question.
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  Really don't know. I've been doing it obviously an
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  incredibly long time, but a lot of people thought, you know,
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  when Eddie left that maybe that was going to be it for him.
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  But he's got a pretty good relationship, it feels like,
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  with Pat Anger. Yeah, I think they're doing a
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  nice job. Anger has been a great addition
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  to that radio team, no doubt about that.
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  So all right, we'll talk to to Addison Bouton coming up at
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  1:30, the latest on the Polk County I club.
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  Trent will make some plays. Circus sports sponsor those.
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  Now all draft wagering in the state of Iowa is closed, right?
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  I think, I think I was one of the states that has a shutdown.
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  I tried to find it on DraftKings earlier this morning and I
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  couldn't. Is it?
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  24 hours. That's normally, I think
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  Nevada's actually even longer if you reside in Nevada, they close
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  it a couple of days out, but now it is closed in the state of
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  Iowa. Although calci you could
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  probably I still don't understand how it's legal, but
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  it is. Money laundering operation.
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  Seems like it's right. I just, I don't see it any other
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  way. But it's doing incredibly well.
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  My God, the money changing hands on that.
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  And you bet it more than sports. You can bet a whole bunch of
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  stuff. If somebody wants to take your
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  trade, they're going to do it. What do they keep a little
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  peace, right of the action And we'll see.
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  But anyways, I'm guessing Kelsey will have a very busy night when
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  it comes to the draft. I saw a story about one of the
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  predictions to markets. I don't know if it was Calci or
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  one of the other ones. Is calci the big one?
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  Are they kind of like DraftKings?
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  FanDuel? There's a couple of big ones.
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  That's one of the bigger ones, but I don't know which one it
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  was. So you can bet on everything,
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  right? Yeah, there was this guy, some
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  country, I think in Europe, and you could bet on the
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  temperature, what the temperature's gonna be the
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  official temperature. Following day.
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  At this time, at say it's 6:00 tonight, you can bet on what the
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  temperature's going to be and you look at the forecast and
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  it's going to be, well, it's Celsius over there. 19° was the
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  betting favorite. They take the temperature from
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  the. Airport, which is 67 by the way.
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  Look at you, they take it from the airport.
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  This guy took a hair dryer, was able to put it near the gauge
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  where they have the official measurement come on, fired it up
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  to 23°C and. One.
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  And he got away with it. Twice before he got caught.
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  Is he in prison? I have no idea, but these are
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  the markets we're talking about. The manipulation that is
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  happening in all these things, it feels like money laundering
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  to me. Did nobody see the hair dryer?
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  It was a place apparently that was not guarded, you know,
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  didn't have things like that. And finally, I I don't know if
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  there's a phone call to the airport or the Weather Service
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  or whatever it is, whoever tipped him off, but and that guy
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  had gotten away with some big money because nobody's betting
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  23°C. No, of course.
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  It's not going to be 4° higher at this time than what people
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  are anticipating. Maybe a degree one way or the
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  other. So this guy cashed twice.
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  Yeah, there's no regulators, right?
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  I mean, it's not state regulated, I don't think.
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  Absolutely not. Anyways, well, we'll see where
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  it goes. What came out of the Iowa press
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  conferences yesterday with the coordinators, what we kind of
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  been speculating when it comes to do 2 quarterbacks, Brown
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  doesn't take chances, but he makes some throws and Klinsky,
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  we got kind of reel them in a little bit.
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  I took it that this race is a lot closer maybe than we think
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  that it really is because. Brown is a threat, you say?
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  When it went from last season, Hecklinsky takes over as the
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  backup. The disappointment of the
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  Indiana game from Hank Brown, he goes from that to the offseason,
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  and it felt like, yeah, they're going to say the right things
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  about Hank Brown to keep him around.
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  They want him to be the backup and stick around the program
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  because it's really young. After that, I think this is a
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  real race. And if I know Kirk, and I think
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  I do, I think I know the way that he would lean and it would
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  be Hank. Brown Yeah, he she showed his
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  hand since. He got here, you know, Lester
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  talking about Hank Brown and the speed dynamic because it just
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  feels like Hank Glinsky's quicker.
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  He said Hank Brown's faster, Hank Glinsky's quicker.
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  Probably the right way to look at it.
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  You know, it goes back to the old you know who ran a faster 40
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  between Nathan Chandler and Brad Banks?
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  Chandler, Chandler. And you watch those two players
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  play football. Think that that was the case.
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  It was impossible because the quickness, the side to side
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  movement, Brad Banks had him beat hugely, but straight ahead
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  40 yard dash Chandler was actually a touch quicker than
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  him. So I I don't know if it's in the
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  same realm of that one. I just see it as this is going
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  to be really close. It's going to come down and
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  whoever wins the job, there's maybe going to be a pretty short
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  leash on it because it sounds like Tim Lester likes both of
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  those. Quarterbacks, I think he does
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  too. And right now I've kind of come
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  not full circle. I'm not there yet, but if I had
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  to back today, I might bet Brown to start Week 1.
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  I you'd probably get plus money in the betting market because I
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  think a lot of people anticipate it's going to be Hecklinski and
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  I might be there with you. Just reading, listening last
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  night to what Lester had to say. That was my big take away, the
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  Tony Diaz hype trade. Oh my God, it's just out of
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  control. It it can't slow down.
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  No, I shouldn't. And to have somebody like that
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  on the other side of Reese van der Zee just goes up and makes
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  place and carries himself differently.
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  And I liked what Lester also said about both him and Evan
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  James. He's the other guy.
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  Is getting. A little buzz.
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  They got speed, they brought in a speed element.
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  The way they run routes is fast and that's something they just
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  haven't had and it's really showing some of the other guys
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  this is the speed that we're looking to play with and getting
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  that, and we've had this conversation tons of times
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  before. Yeah, but this time feels
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  different. Caleb Brown was going to be
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  different. Yeah, but Tony, Yeah, he did.
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  You're right. Didn't work.
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  Out No. Didn't work out.
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  He arrived with the pedigree and it did not work out.
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  Four-star receiver The plate at Ohio State is a true freshman
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  and that why. He's coming to Iowa.
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  He's coming to hot. This guy's going to have 100
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  catches, right? Yeah, maybe 50.
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  Yeah, no. Or maybe 4?
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  So that's what it ended up. Wasn't very many.
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  No, not at all. But.
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  It does feel like this is a little bit different, but I
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  think Hank Brown is very much in this race now.
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  Could he be placating him? Could he tried to be building
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  him up a little bit? There's no portal.
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  Not like, you know, this didn't work out.
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  I'm getting into the portal now. We'll see where we'll see where
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  it goes, but it's fascinating to watch.
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  You know, you guys, this is one of the things I'm really going
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  to miss this fall is I was thinking about this last night
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  that Brown versus Saklinski and then trying to figure out IO
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  state. Yes.
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  Good luck to you guys. Good luck it.
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  Feels like we have no chance. You have no chance, right?
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  Right. Because everybody's new.
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  Everybody. I also took a peek at this last
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  night and I know we talked about or lads having the depth chart
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  up there if you want to take a peek.
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  This is not official or anything like.
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  That no it's it's their best guess.
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  But, and I think it's a guess and I agree, I think for the
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  most part across what they have. Do you know how many seniors I
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  will have offensively this year? I'll guess 31.
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  Wow, Jack dotesler. That's it.
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  One senior on the other. This is a program that is
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  predicates themselves on developmental leadership and
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  then those upperclassmen, you get that opportunity, very
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  senior laden throughout the years, not the case there.
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  Over on the defensive side of the football, we think Jayden
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  Montgomery is going to get one of the two spots and Phil Parker
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  talked a little bit about that. Him and Cam Buffington probably
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  I would say are the two most likely of the two linebacker
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  starters. You have Montgomery, Deshawn Lee
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  and that's it. Out of senior starters, this is
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  going to be one of Kirk's youngest teams in.
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  Decades. Yeah, a long time.
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  I can't remember anything close. Well, the schedule's easy,
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  though trendy. Well, maybe you can argue the
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  first three are easy. I wouldn't even go 3.
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  The next three, though, that's going to be a different ball
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  game. You got on the road at Michigan.
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  You got a home game. That's great.
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  There you go. Good here.
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  Comes the number one team in the country, Ohio State, and then
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  you go on the road to. The West Coast, the.
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  West Coast. And that always ends well.
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  Against Washington, can they win a game?
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  What's the most likely win? Of those 3.
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  Of those 3. I, I, I want to say Kennick the
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  Ohio State game, but I can't. I guess Washington.
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  Let's see, I would say Michigan still going to be early in
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  Whittingham. I don't.
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  Know what Whittingham's got right?
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  I don't. I don't know.
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  That well, you got Underwood back.
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  That's a place to. Start.
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  Yeah, that didn't go well last year.
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  He was a freshman, a true freshman.
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  He was. He'll get better.
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  No one would anticipate. They don't have a ton coming
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  back. They didn't do a lot in the
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  portal in comparison either. I thought that was pretty
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  interesting. Yeah.
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  Just kind of odd to not know, but I think of the three, that's
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  the one I'd put number one. Yeah, most.
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  Likely might be just because of the uncertainty with their
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  roster oh their basketball school.
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  Anyways, this year, that's what it is.
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  This year, I don't think many Wolverine fans would agree with
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  that. No, no, although the banner's
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  flying. Yeah, absolutely.
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  Want to mention Chris Pelizzi. Yeah, boy, you talk about a guy
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  that is. Excited to be home.
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  Holy crap, And we hear this plenty.
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  We hear Jay Norvell. What was that a week ago when he
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  was talking about it and just the importance but.
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  He's back with his tribe. Yes, hearing Pelizzi talk about
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  and being other places and what the way that he put it is it
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  just wasn't Iowa that that was the quote that he had.
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  It just wasn't Iowa. He had a he said he had good
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  experiences other places, but it wasn't Iowa.
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  And then he went back and talked about correct friends and
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  coaching under him and he said there are times felt never be
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  able to get back here and the importance of that and you hear.
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  When did he leave 2012 early? Something like that.
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  He's been all over the place and you know, a small school,
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  Tennessee Tech I think was one of them.
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  He's been all over. That's that's the path for so
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  many coaches. And when you have your
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  destination that you want to get back to.
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  I just thought it was really interesting.
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  You could tell there was there was emotions there.
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  Him talking about that and what it is kicker and punter.
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  We're not going to know until the seat.
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  I don't think so. We might not know until.
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  The Aussie's got to win, the punting job doesn't.
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  He. I don't think so.
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  You don't think so? I like Phil Pot.
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  No. I also watched Phil Pot in high
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  school. He's got a leg.
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  And we talked about this when Tory Taylor came in.
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  Tory Taylor came in 2020. He's also 23 years old at that
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  time. There's nobody in the stands.
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  Nope. Not a soul.
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  And then we see these struggles. What?
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  Did they play first? Was that Indiana?
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  Purdue with Purdue. Yes, that was Purdue.
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  Yeah, you're right. Was Purdue.
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  And then? That was Riley Moss.
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  Not that, not that, not that game.
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  I don't think so. OK, the Reese taking comes in
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  younger. He wasn't.
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  Very good, right? No, he wasn't.
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  It's not just about leg talent. All these guys have leg talent.
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  I think the experience has something to do with it and the
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  same thing. Boston Effort has never put on a
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  helmet and please, he talked about that.
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  He's never put a football helmet on.
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  That's the first time he does that in a game will be when he
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  takes the field. I would give Phil Pot the
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  smallest of edges, but the edge there and then in the kicker
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  spot, same kind of thing. Even spoiled Trent.
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  Yes, Ozick obviously has a pedigree after being a kicker
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  North Dakota State, but sounds like him and Burr very close.
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  We'll see. We'll get a glimpse on Saturday.
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  I think that'll also kind of help kind of frame it.
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  But I see both of them. I'm calling flips at this point.
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  Yeah, I do too. And that's so I've got Iowa
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  State's information. Do you have the info for Iowa?
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  I think. 1045. 1040. 5 is when the practice officially begins.
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  Here's Iowa State Spring Showcase.
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  So the gates are open. It is only the east side.
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  They're opening the northeast and southeast gates, 1030
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  stretching, and then they'll do whatever they're going to do for
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  the next couple of hours. It's going to stop at 12:30, so
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  they're going to give you 2 hours to look at the team.
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  I hope they're going to pass out some sheets with numbers on them
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  just so you got a kind of an idea.
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  Or just print it out, grab the roster, print it out, just do
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  something. Yes.
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  For Iowa, 10:45 on Saturday, you can get in Gates AB and H
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  Usually just one side of the field is going to be open, which
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  would be the West side of the stadium is normally in the past
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  what it's been. Sometimes they put the media
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  members in on the other side of the field so they can spread out
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  a little bit and take film and and do those kind of things.
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  So 10:45 for that one, same thing, you're a Hawkeye fan, you
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  might need a roster yourself too.
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  I would state Iowa State's a different level, but this.
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  Year I would just kind of a. Lot of new faces, a lot of young
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  faces. The veterans are not there at
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  the same level. Nope.
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  A fascinating year awaits both Iowa and Iowa State on the
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  gridiron, and they'll of course match up second week.
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  Did you see the Hall of Fame basketball announcement that
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  came out earlier today? Iowa State is going to
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  participate down in Kansas City. It's just a one game.
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  It's not like they're going to so Drake and Wichita State play.
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  So it's just more, it's more than Iowa State for listening
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  audience. Drake is involved as well.
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  They'll play the Shockers and Iowa State's going to play most
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  state. It's after Cyhawk, it's after
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  the players era. So that's kind of getting close
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  to I would not entirely, but you're starting to get a little
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  bit more clarity on what I was stating on con schedule's going
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  to look like they got Purdue at home.
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  Obviously the Seihawk game is a part of it.
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  Players error. You can bet your bottom dollar
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  that's going to be a top flight field if there ever was 1 early
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  in the year. So that'll come together with
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  very, very good competition. Who do they play over in the
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  western part and say what's the what's the building you you've
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  been to it? They've got a game coming up
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  there, that famous building in western Iowa.
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  Western Iowa, Yeah. Tyson Event Center No in Sioux
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  City. No, no, no.
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  The the the you, the you saw a game there.
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  You saw? In Sioux Falls, that that's in
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  South Dakota. OK.
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  South Dakota. Yes, Yes.
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  What's the name of it? The Pentagon.
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  The Pentagon. Thank you.
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  They play there. I like the Tyson Event Center in
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  Sioux City. That's not very famous.
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  So they'll play there. Uh huh.
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  So they're starting to get their schedule to come together a
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  little bit. The exempt tournaments coming up
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  this year, obviously the players era for Iowa State.
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  Do you remember the story, though, from it was like
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  December, maybe January, that financially they're asking for a
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  lot and they're maybe not getting the television money
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  that they anticipated. Right.
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  But didn't they rebid it? I'm not sure if they got anybody
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  to rebid. Well, I hope so because it's
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  such a hell of an event for basketball fans.
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  But we've had great multi team tournaments like you're, you've
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  been more enamoured with it. It's in Vegas, so that gets my
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  attention right off the bat. I just, I would hate to see all
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  the other ones go away for something like this because I
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  mean, last year, that Poppycock situation where you go
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  undefeated but you don't get to, yeah, that was it was awful.
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  Yeah, that needed tweaking. Yes, you need a bracket.
• 17:46
  Make an 18 bracket. It's very simple.
• 17:48
  You got three games? Here's a bracket.
• 17:49
  Boom. Because you're going to play
• 17:50
  three games, you may as well have a.
• 17:51
  Bracket. We've done this for decades.
• 17:54
  That comes down to point differential maybe kinda.
• 17:57
  It was stupid. It was not well run.
• 18:01
  I have my concerns about the sustainability and certainly the
• 18:04
  amount of money that they're giving up.
• 18:06
  How do you recruit that money? And if you're not getting the
• 18:08
  television money, which by the way, it's still during football
• 18:11
  season and we know what rates and we know what gets the ad
• 18:14
  dollars, it is definitely football.
• 18:16
  I just continue to wonder about how long this events actually
• 18:20
  going to be. Happening.
• 18:20
  Is there a better spot on the calendar for it?
• 18:22
  Is it? I mean because football's now
• 18:24
  with playoffs are in December. Well, and that's the Part 2
• 18:27
  where we saw obviously the success of the Michigan Duke
• 18:30
  game. Does it make sense to instead,
• 18:32
  that was good, have a weekend where, and let's be honest, it's
• 18:37
  going to be about the Power 4 where you have 456 teams that
• 18:42
  play in little 4 game tournaments on a weekend, on a
• 18:46
  Friday, Saturday, Sunday, kind of.
• 18:48
  But actually the winner's playing no where.
• 18:51
  You just have one game. You'd have two games, two games,
• 18:53
  A4 team tournament when your first game he played the other
• 18:56
  team backside. It's two games in the middle of
• 18:58
  the season. If that's something, maybe that
• 19:00
  would make a little bit more sense.
• 19:02
  I don't know. I don't think there is a great
• 19:04
  way to look at it. But I don't think like parent of
• 19:07
  nil money to the players out there, it's hard.
• 19:09
  I mean, everybody's hoping that it's it's a success and it
• 19:12
  continues on. I don't think it's going to.
• 19:15
  Do they have a contract? Did they, did they commit to a
• 19:18
  certain amount of years? Do you know?
• 19:20
  I don't know. I don't either.
• 19:22
  I I know that after last year that they reopened for bidding
• 19:26
  the the television contract for the event.
• 19:28
  Look, there's only so much money to go down.
• 19:30
  I read today that neither Fox or ESPN wanted she want to carry
• 19:34
  the Holiday Bowl. Really.
• 19:36
  I mean, the Holiday Bowl used to be a bull.
• 19:37
  Absolutely. It was a big. 1A Big.
• 19:39
  Bowl absolutely was. It was in San Diego for crying
• 19:42
  out loud. Fox begged out and ESPN says no
• 19:44
  thanks. Yikes.
• 19:46
  Right. So is that where's that going,
• 19:48
  CW? Well, they're, they're
• 19:51
  investing, they're spending, buddy.
• 19:53
  Maybe that's where that. Thing's going to end up all
• 19:55
  right. We're going to end up going to
• 19:56
  break right now. When we do, Elliot Clef is going
• 19:59
  to join us. More on what he heard from the
• 20:00
  coordinators. We'll do that.
• 20:02
  On the other side, Matt Poston's coming up on.
• 20:05
  He's such a basketball guy. I'm going to ask him about the
• 20:07
  NIL the players era. With what he thinks the shelf
• 20:11
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  Cappy kicks off our number 2 Miller and Condit Iowa sports
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  radio network. Hi, Mary Condon, welcome back,
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  Iowa Sports Radio Network. Kelly A Clef momentarily forgot
• 20:54
  to mention the first segment. Addie Brown found a home.
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  Former Cyclone UCLA bound are sort of the defending champions
• 21:01
  for Addie Brown. Yeah, a lot of minutes
• 21:02
  available. All the seniors, I believe,
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  scored every point in the championship game, so there's
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  going to be minutes there. Good program and coach close.
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  She is excellent. Does a really good job with that
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  program. Good landing space.
• 21:14
  Going to be a little bit different going from growing up
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  in the middle of Kansas to Ames to LA just a tad.
• 21:20
  Culture shock just a tad. Let's get Ellie a club
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  hawkeyeinsider.com part of the 24/7 sports.
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  Good to talk to you Ellie. Appreciate you coming on
• 21:28
  obviously busy day listening to all the coordinators speak.
• 21:31
  You'll get a your eyeballs on practice coming up here in oh
• 21:35
  about 48 hours. Things should be just wrapping
• 21:38
  up, but I guess we'll just throw it out there.
• 21:40
  Well, let's start with Tim Lester in the offense and we'll
• 21:42
  work our way through the the other two.
• 21:44
  Just when you heard Tim Lester. I love the fact that he made you
• 21:48
  made the media wait before he got into the quarterback because
• 21:51
  he knew everybody wanted to start there.
• 21:53
  But what was the take away or two from listening to Tim Lester
• 21:56
  yesterday? Yeah, You know, I think the main
• 22:01
  thing is, is confirming what we've been hearing behind the
• 22:04
  scenes is that the Hank Brown and Jeremy Hecklinski
• 22:08
  competition is probably going to go down to the wire.
• 22:11
  He doesn't really have a timeline on it.
• 22:13
  He's seeing things that are encouraging from both of them,
• 22:16
  that Hank Brown has taken some more shots.
• 22:20
  He's had more explosive plays than expected.
• 22:23
  I think he's had more explosive plays than that.
• 22:25
  Hecklinski actually in the spring, according to Lester.
• 22:30
  Then he also didn't sound super committal to The Cave Peeper
• 22:34
  moving over to center, which was interesting.
• 22:37
  And of course, you know, offensive line isn't, you know,
• 22:40
  one of the sexy positions that everybody loves to talk about.
• 22:43
  But that's a big move. I mean, you're replacing Logan
• 22:45
  Jones, who one of the better offense lineman and Iowa in
• 22:49
  recent memory, along with both Stevens and Jennings, dunker and
• 22:53
  peeper, who was awesome at right guard.
• 22:55
  You know, I mean, the the conversation since the end of
• 22:58
  the season has been, oh, he's moving over to center.
• 23:00
  Well, it doesn't sound like it's guaranteed at this point.
• 23:03
  Plus, Michael Miglinski's been hurt a good chunk of spring.
• 23:06
  We don't really know where Trent Wilson's at after he sprained an
• 23:09
  ankle. So definitely a lot more
• 23:12
  questions than answers at this point.
• 23:15
  Well, there are no. Questions that the hype train
• 23:17
  continues for Tony Diaz and Tim Lester did not slow things down
• 23:21
  yesterday. Now he's been banked up.
• 23:23
  And as David Eichelt reported over at Hawkeye Insider,
• 23:26
  anticipate that he's going to be out for the rest of the spring.
• 23:28
  Regardless, though, guy that just goes and gets the ball.
• 23:31
  I mean, Tim Lester, I read the transcript.
• 23:33
  I didn't have a chance to watch it.
• 23:36
  Was there a little smirk on his face, a little bit of smile when
• 23:39
  he was talking about Tony Diaz? Because, Elliot, we've been
• 23:41
  hearing this from all over the place.
• 23:44
  Oh yeah. One quote that he said that I
• 23:46
  don't think I've heard yet, at least it's something about how
• 23:49
  he's been willing to put basically everything on the
• 23:52
  line, like he'll land on his head if he has to, to catch a
• 23:55
  football, which was a new a new bit about Tony.
• 23:59
  But the other thing that we actually reported on Hawkeye
• 24:03
  Insider that he has been though he has been banged up a little
• 24:07
  bit. He has been back at practice,
• 24:09
  but it's been very limited at this point.
• 24:10
  So he's not completely out. I would be very surprised if he
• 24:15
  plays on Saturday but just participates on Saturday because
• 24:20
  of the fact that he has been banged up.
• 24:21
  And Kirk Ference, as he should, often keeps guys out, even if
• 24:25
  it's just bumps and bruises of the open spring practice.
• 24:29
  Don't need to get anybody hurt just so fans can can get a look
• 24:33
  at them. But yeah, I mean, I was not, I
• 24:37
  mean, maybe I wasn't anticipating exactly what what
• 24:41
  Tim said, but I would also wouldn't say I was surprised
• 24:44
  because Tim will, I don't think he's necessarily shy about
• 24:50
  praising his guys, right? Like Phil can get that way from
• 24:53
  time to time. But Tim, Tim is going to let you
• 24:57
  know what that he's excited about.
• 24:59
  You know, even see some of these young guys like Hecklinski last
• 25:02
  year saying, hey, he's a little ball player now.
• 25:04
  We heard that quite a bit. But yeah, so I, I, I wouldn't
• 25:08
  say I was shocked, but to hear that that side of it was was
• 25:12
  interesting that he's willing to put his, his, his life.
• 25:15
  On the line. To catch a football, Yeah.
• 25:17
  Here was the quote. Tony can, Tony can come down
• 25:19
  with the ball. I wish he was more protective of
• 25:21
  his body. He goes for it now.
• 25:23
  He might land on his head, but he'll at the end he'll come up
• 25:26
  with the ball. Pretty good quote for Tony Diaz.
• 25:29
  What about what about Evan James?
• 25:32
  What do we know about him? He was also part of the
• 25:34
  conversation. Yeah, I don't believe Tim said
• 25:38
  much about Evan yesterday. Maybe a little bit.
• 25:41
  It's mostly just been that he's, you know, that that speed guy
• 25:44
  that you're looking for. Not going to be Caden Wegen, not
• 25:47
  going to be Jacob Gill. He's going to be Evan James,
• 25:49
  right. But I think he has a chance to
• 25:51
  be, I'm not trying to be hyperbolic here, but sort of a
• 25:55
  combo of the two where he is a little bit of a possession
• 25:57
  receiver, but probably faster than what Jacob Gill was.
• 26:01
  And we'll get just almost as much of a look at Evan James as
• 26:06
  Lester has this spring because he's been out for a good chunk
• 26:08
  of it, been able to participate the last two weeks.
• 26:11
  But it'll be really interesting to to get a second look at him
• 26:14
  as far as media. It'll be interesting to get a
• 26:17
  second look at him this weekend and see how much.
• 26:20
  I mean, he might be more involved than he otherwise would
• 26:22
  be, assuming Tony doesn't participate.
• 26:24
  He has participate. But yeah, James will be
• 26:27
  interesting. He's I don't necessarily foresee
• 26:31
  him being. A guy.
• 26:33
  That plays like an overwhelming amount as much as like a starter
• 26:38
  like a Reese Vanderzee or Tony Diaz or or Dayton Howard will
• 26:41
  probably play this year, maybe even Jerry at Bowie that that
• 26:45
  plays this year because he's young.
• 26:47
  It's his first year in the Big 10, but I mean maybe he'll prove
• 26:51
  me wrong with his speed and and play making ability as a
• 26:53
  possession receiver. It'll be one of those things to
• 26:57
  to follow over on the defensive. Side of the ball, Phil Parker, I
• 27:01
  think it's made me a consensus now.
• 27:03
  Defensive tackle is the biggest question mark about this
• 27:06
  football team as a whole. You know, Bryce Hawthorne, he
• 27:08
  was a rotational piece last year.
• 27:10
  Yeah. You wanted to make a step.
• 27:11
  I got excited because he said this earlier, Elliot.
• 27:14
  Phil doesn't throw around the praise quite as much, just him
• 27:17
  bringing up unprompted Devin Kennedy bloodlines of his dad,
• 27:20
  Jimmy Kennedy, obviously a stud both at the college level and
• 27:23
  the NFL level. He's got the size, versatility,
• 27:26
  and now kind of it's that time. He needs to be a part of it.
• 27:28
  What have you heard about the spring that Devin Kennedy has
• 27:30
  had? You got Hubert Gaffney in there
• 27:32
  and defensive tackle as a whole. Yeah, the the two young guys
• 27:36
  that keep coming up to me are are Kennedy and and Brad
• 27:39
  Fitzgibbon and Parker didn't bring up yesterday, but Kennedy
• 27:43
  is a guy who's long the I don't know if you guys remember this,
• 27:47
  I may have brought it up recently, but he's a guy that
• 27:50
  the often or the defensive line group started to call UNK his
• 27:54
  his first year with the program because he'd show up in khaki
• 27:57
  shorts and a polo. And when you talk to him, he
• 28:00
  sounds like he's a 40 year old, like he sounded that way when he
• 28:03
  was 17 and getting recruited by Iowa.
• 28:06
  And I got to talk to him a little bit.
• 28:07
  But yeah, I've heard some good things about his his length and
• 28:12
  the way he plays the position because of that maturity.
• 28:15
  I mean, Kelvin Bell loves a mature kid who is, you know, 18
• 28:19
  and, and again, talks like he's 40.
• 28:21
  So I imagine he he's really bought in what what Bell has has
• 28:25
  put together there. And then Fitzgibbons, just a
• 28:27
  violent football player that is again, is smart.
• 28:31
  Like you have to be smart to play defensive line at Iowa.
• 28:33
  Their two gap system is is unique for college football.
• 28:36
  It's not just teeing off and getting after the quarterback or
• 28:39
  going to backup tackles for losses, plugging holes and
• 28:42
  preventing first downs and preventing easy third down
• 28:46
  specifically, as well as stopping you once you once you
• 28:50
  get towards the red zone. But yeah, those two would be
• 28:54
  ones that are going to be interesting.
• 28:55
  And man, I just, I can't help but but have a bunch of question
• 28:58
  marks about the transfers at this point.
• 29:00
  Emmanuel Olaq Baju definitely has physical trait, but I think
• 29:05
  it was 9 tackles in 10 games or 9.
• 29:08
  Excuse me, 10 tackles in nine games or something like that in
• 29:11
  North Dakota, 2 1/2 back. He looks like the Hulk could be
• 29:14
  awesome, but just hasn't done a whole lot in his career, only at
• 29:18
  the FCS level between Saint Thomas and North Dakota.
• 29:22
  And I mean, after that, it's Bryce Stevenson who sounded like
• 29:25
  he was a little overwhelmed start the year.
• 29:27
  He's starting to get his footing now.
• 29:28
  But yeah, I mean, defensive tackle, big question mark.
• 29:32
  We'll see how much the walk on fill in that role Hubert and
• 29:37
  Gaffney have been wrapped. Feels like they've been around
• 29:39
  the program for 10 years at this point.
• 29:41
  But yeah, you hope your scholarship guys can step up
• 29:44
  and, and fill that void And, and I, I, I would be really
• 29:49
  intrigued to see what Kennedy and Fitzgibbon look like on on
• 29:53
  Saturday as you think. Back to December when, when some
• 29:57
  of the young guys that didn't play much that were taking
• 30:00
  advantage of those bull prep practices.
• 30:03
  As you think back, was there a name that popped up in December
• 30:06
  that we got brought up with either of the coordinators
• 30:09
  yesterday? I think the the main one would
• 30:14
  be Cam Buffington. That was another the one that
• 30:18
  that, and I guess maybe we're talking about two different
• 30:22
  things, but but Buffington is a guy that has had quite a bit of
• 30:27
  buzz around him basically since he arrived on campus.
• 30:30
  And Jaden Montgomery was one that brought him up right, right
• 30:33
  away, right away during bowl prep when we got to talk to him
• 30:37
  about some of the young guys and it's looking like he's going to
• 30:41
  be a starter. And, and Phil definitely wanted
• 30:43
  to dance around the question about who's playing where at
• 30:46
  linebacker. I was wondering if it was going
• 30:48
  to be Montgomery at Mike or or Cam at Mike.
• 30:51
  Sounds like it's going to be Cam at Mike because Phil was saying
• 30:55
  stuff to the effect of, well, we plan to have them play a bunch
• 30:57
  of different positions. But you know, Cam was, was was
• 31:01
  was bumped and you know, it was dealing with a a small injury.
• 31:05
  So he missed a couple practices and we had Montgomery move over
• 31:07
  to Mike and we had that kind of thing where he he wanted to keep
• 31:11
  it quiet, but but alluded to it a little bit.
• 31:14
  And so I think it's going to be really, really fun to watch Cam
• 31:18
  Buffington really figure it out on the field this year.
• 31:21
  He might, I mean, other than Zack Lutmer, he might be Iowa's
• 31:25
  best defensive player by the end of the year.
• 31:27
  Like he's just got all the physical tools, everything
• 31:30
  you've wanted out of a mic that Iowa kind of didn't get last
• 31:34
  year. And Montgomery had his flashes,
• 31:36
  right. But I think that pair is going
• 31:39
  to be really fun. And that's something that I've
• 31:41
  heard about quite a bit too, is, is those two fitting really well
• 31:44
  together at that Mike and and will linebacker positions and
• 31:48
  and Iowa's 425 you brought up. Obviously, Zach Luttmerg leading
• 31:52
  this defense and defensive back group, his versatility, he can
• 31:55
  play corner, he can play safety, he can play cash, he can play
• 31:58
  anywhere and we saw that a year ago.
• 32:00
  Sounds like they'll corner probably off the table for him.
• 32:03
  Phil Parker likes the depths of his quarterback and that's a
• 32:06
  good thing because Phil normally doesn't like the depth of
• 32:08
  anywhere and he wants more. And Bora Bora as we see them
• 32:10
  steal some guys from the offset offensive side of the ball in
• 32:13
  the past. Lutmer betting favorite right
• 32:15
  now. Where does he trot out of the
• 32:17
  field? First defensive position against
• 32:19
  Northern Illinois got. To be cash, I mean, how good he
• 32:23
  was at cash last year Plus, I mean, you're looking at corner,
• 32:27
  you're going to have Deshaun Lee as your CB1, probably Jalen
• 32:30
  Watson or Rashad Godfrey at CB2. And then I think he rolls, I
• 32:34
  think Bill rolls with the the transfer safeties and Tyler
• 32:37
  Brown and Anthony Hawkins. It's strong and free safety.
• 32:40
  I mean that cash position is just you're required to do so
• 32:44
  much. You have to be good in coverage.
• 32:47
  You have to be a really good open field tackler.
• 32:49
  You have to be, I mean, effectively a fit, well,
• 32:53
  obviously 1/5 defensive back, but also a linebacker.
• 32:56
  You have to be a mixture of the two.
• 32:58
  And I think where you trust Lutmer the most is in that
• 33:01
  position that has so many different responsibilities.
• 33:04
  That's really where you want one of your best athletes as well,
• 33:07
  and that's what Lutmer is. So I honestly think, you know,
• 33:12
  looking back at the Cooper to Gene years, I think Cooper was
• 33:15
  best at at corner and having Castro at cash was a luxury that
• 33:20
  that, you know, wasn't necessarily expected to be
• 33:24
  afforded to Iowa as you know, as well as he played, I guess.
• 33:28
  And then you you had the opportunity to put the gene at
• 33:31
  corner. Otherwise, you know, having your
• 33:33
  best athlete and cash is going to be most advantageous.
• 33:37
  And I think that's the lover is can he play all 5 spots?
• 33:40
  Yeah. Will he probably play all 5
• 33:42
  spots at different points in the season?
• 33:43
  Not maybe not in one game, but you know, throughout the season
• 33:46
  they'll be thrown in corner, throwing it strong, throwing it
• 33:48
  free, depending on who's healthy, who's not and and what
• 33:51
  kind of looks the the defense is getting.
• 33:53
  But he's he's got to be your cash.
• 33:55
  He's just too good, too good at that specific position.
• 33:59
  And I think he's going to be mostly playing there along with,
• 34:03
  along with returning punt. Chris Pelippi alluding to that
• 34:07
  yesterday too. Yeah, well.
• 34:09
  Let's finish up there. We're short on time, but just a
• 34:11
  thought or two on what you heard from Polici.
• 34:16
  You know, he's he, he wanted to be a hawk for a while.
• 34:20
  And. Graduate.
• 34:21
  Yeah. Almost getting emotional talking
• 34:24
  about taking the position. It's definitely going to be
• 34:27
  different, right? Like Lamar Woods holding that
• 34:30
  position for a while. You lose an All American
• 34:32
  returner, you lose your punter, you lose your kicker who could
• 34:36
  hit from 60 plus. Like though Eli Ozick did tell
• 34:39
  me the other day that he was hitting field goals from 60 plus
• 34:42
  in practice. So that's something of no, but
• 34:45
  it's a complete, complete turnover there.
• 34:48
  It'll be really interesting to see what police he does with
• 34:52
  with this room in year 1 And may I I can't help but you know, you
• 34:56
  can't help but be a little nervous.
• 34:57
  But that's that's a lot of turnover it in one position
• 35:00
  group. So it'll be interesting to see
• 35:02
  what police he does. Good stuff.
• 35:04
  Ellie Clef, appreciated as always.
• 35:06
  Thanks for recapping yesterday. An eventful day and I was
• 35:09
  sitting. You'll have another one coming
• 35:10
  up here on Saturday. Thanks for jumping on Ellie.
• 35:13
  Appreciate it. Good.
• 35:15
  To talk to you, Hawkeye. Insider.com, part of the 24/7
• 35:19
  Sports Network. Good stuff on, good Intel on the
• 35:22
  three coordinators. We'll take your time out, talk
• 35:24
  some Big 12 on the other side, Miller and Condon.
• 35:26
  Matt Postons joins us next from Heartland College Sports on the
• 35:29
  Iowa Sports Radio Network. Nori Condon, welcome back.
• 35:32
  Final segment of our number one, David Kaplan on Chicago sports.
• 35:36
  He kicks off our number 2. Matt Postons covers the Big 12
• 35:39
  for Heartland College Sports. Heartland College sports.com.
• 35:43
  Do some basketball, do a little football to start things off.
• 35:46
  Matt, good to speak with you. Seems like maybe in the top 10
• 35:50
  picks, there will to be two Big 10 alumni.
• 35:53
  Hear their name called, one from Texas Tech, Bailey and of course
• 35:56
  Tyson, who's really moved up the draft boards as of late.
• 36:00
  Arizona State's wide receiver could not play in the Big 12
• 36:03
  championship against Iowa State, which is probably a good thing,
• 36:06
  although Scataboo picked up the slack to say the least.
• 36:10
  But those two, let's start with those two, obviously 2 very
• 36:13
  gifted players. A1 on either side of the
• 36:15
  football. Yeah, and I think whoever,
• 36:20
  whichever 2 teams land those two players, I think they're going
• 36:23
  to get players that can make an impact on them immediately.
• 36:26
  Everybody saw what Bailey was able to do with Texas Tech last
• 36:29
  year. He transformed their pass rush.
• 36:31
  He gave them a guy that could make, you know, something happen
• 36:34
  every single play and I I think he is built and has that
• 36:38
  fundamental toolbox to do that at the next level right away.
• 36:42
  I think he's one of those guys that could be a, you know,
• 36:45
  potential defensive rookie of the year type of player wherever
• 36:48
  he lands. Tyson, I think is going to be
• 36:51
  one of those players who, you know, wide receivers tend to
• 36:54
  need a little time to, you know, get going in the NFL, kind of
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  saw with Trattoria McMillan from Arizona last year.
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  You know, it took he, he started a little slowly, but by the end
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  of the first year, you know, he was in really good shape in
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  Carolina. It was a big part of what they
• 37:09
  were doing. So Tyson might need a little bit
• 37:12
  more lead time, but, you know, depending upon where he lands,
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  if he lands with a better team, depending on, you know, if he
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  falls out of that top ten, that's gonna help him in terms
• 37:21
  of development. But I, I think the, you know,
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  both of those guys are gonna make impacts pretty quickly in
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  their NFL careers. And that's a good thing for the
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  Big 12 because you know, for a long time with Texas and
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  Oklahoma in the conference, the first round was dominated by
• 37:35
  Texas and Oklahoma for the most part. 1 of the things that
• 37:38
  Brett, your Mark has talked a lot about is needing some of
• 37:40
  these other schools to become bigger brands nationally.
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  When you get a first round pick from your school, whether it's
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  Iowa State, Texas Tech, you know, UCF, Houston, any of those
• 37:50
  schools that are in the conference now, that helps you
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  from a recognition standpoint. I'm going to put.
• 37:54
  You on the spot. This might be incredibly
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  difficult for you. Who's the next top ten guy to
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  come out of the Big 12? Is there a guy that you look at
• 38:01
  next season that draft Knicks already salivating in 2027?
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  Because I'll tell you honestly, off the top of my head, I
• 38:08
  couldn't think of 10. Man, I, you know, I, I think
• 38:13
  scouts are going to keep a really big eye on LJ Martin at
• 38:15
  BYUI. Think he has the capability to
• 38:18
  be a brief Hall type of player in the NFLI.
• 38:21
  Think he's got that skill set. I don't necessarily know if
• 38:24
  he'll go in the first round. They don't value running backs
• 38:26
  the way they used to 10 or 15 years ago.
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  But he's the guy that springs immediately to mind and there
• 38:31
  are a lot of other guys. What about Soresby?
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  Soresby, you know, with that system, the way that the way
• 38:39
  that you know, Baron Morton took to that system this year with
• 38:43
  the continuity in in the offense in terms of the coaching staff
• 38:46
  that can help them as well. Martin was just the first guy
• 38:49
  that came to mind because I think he's one of the best backs
• 38:52
  in the country. And I think he's.
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  One of those guys that can be a three down back in the NFL and
• 38:56
  that can be valuable if you can find the right guy for your
• 38:58
  offense in that fame. Yeah, that, that.
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  That's a good one. That's that's very good.
• 39:03
  Any more football, TC? Let's go to basketball.
• 39:07
  We we talked about. This at the beginning of the
• 39:09
  show, the the players era and maybe the that somewhat shaky
• 39:13
  ground that it's on right now is they're still searching for a
• 39:16
  television partner unless they found one that Trent and I
• 39:19
  didn't, you know, somehow got by us.
• 39:23
  I think it's a hell of an event. I really do.
• 39:25
  I enjoyed the heck out of it. The competition is outstanding.
• 39:28
  Yes, I understand the, you know, the downside of it.
• 39:30
  It kind of ends some of those, like the tournament over to the
• 39:34
  Maui Classic. Of course, Anchorage is already
• 39:36
  gone, but you know, when you've got $1,000,000 of NIL sitting
• 39:40
  out there to participate in this, schools are going to take
• 39:42
  you up on that offer for the most part.
• 39:45
  What are you hearing about that event as far as the longevity
• 39:48
  and the likelihood that it's around and, you know, 5-10 years
• 39:52
  from now? Any any Intel on that?
• 39:54
  Yeah. I don't have a good read on
• 39:56
  that, in part because the landscape keeps shifting.
• 39:59
  I mean. We're now talking about five
• 40:02
  years for eligibility for kids and the NCAA is now
• 40:06
  interestingly enough, talking about implementing that next
• 40:08
  month, which could throw the transfer portal and you know,
• 40:12
  frankly, NIL as well into complete chaos.
• 40:15
  When you have even the biggest schools and all these
• 40:17
  conferences, the ones that you feel like are the most revenue
• 40:20
  friendly, Texas, Ohio State, those kinds of schools competing
• 40:25
  for NIL dollars, then I think that can help keep a tournament
• 40:29
  like that more viable. I think the thing I worry about
• 40:31
  is how quickly this tournament is growing.
• 40:35
  It was 8 teams when it started a couple of years ago.
• 40:38
  Now I think they're shooting for 24 teams.
• 40:40
  Eight of those teams are going to come out of the Big 12, which
• 40:42
  is good for the Big 12. Your mark made, I think a really
• 40:45
  great prescient deal with them last year.
• 40:48
  But are you going to be able to get, you know, 24 teams through
• 40:53
  this tournament in a week? Are you going to, you have to
• 40:54
  stretch it out to two or three weeks?
• 40:56
  Does that, you know, stretch you from a staffing or from a
• 40:59
  resource standpoint? There are plenty of places to
• 41:02
  play in Las Vegas, as you guys know.
• 41:04
  The question is can you get eyeballs on that tournament at a
• 41:08
  time when everyone is still paying a lot of attention to
• 41:10
  football? I think that's the trick.
• 41:12
  I mean, getting teams there for $1,000,000 payday for NIL, no
• 41:15
  big deal. Getting the attention to the TV
• 41:17
  deal, you need to make it a long tournament with longevity.
• 41:21
  That's the trick. The.
• 41:25
  Iowa State Cyclones got their work done on the weekend they
• 41:29
  portal opens up, got the guys come in and they're done just
• 41:31
  like that. TJ Otzenberger 5 new Blairs.
• 41:34
  Obviously the departure of Manchilovich, it's something
• 41:36
  that stings and we'll see where he ends up.
• 41:38
  NBA or somewhere else. But your thoughts on that TJ Boy
• 41:42
  just feels like a turnkey operation and names right now.
• 41:46
  Yeah, I. Mean, I think he's a really good
• 41:48
  example of to other schools of know what you value in your
• 41:53
  program, know which players align with that and get them
• 41:57
  fast. I don't know if TJ has guys that
• 42:00
  are scouting players during the season.
• 42:02
  I don't know if they're looking at it from that kind of an
• 42:04
  operation, but it seems like every year he does a really good
• 42:08
  job of finding his guys quickly, finding guys that align to what
• 42:11
  he wants to do on the court and getting them in aims.
• 42:14
  I mean, 5 new transfers, they've got a good group of holdover
• 42:17
  players, a really good freshman group coming in next year.
• 42:20
  He seems to have found a way to even in this era, make it like
• 42:24
  it used to be 1/3, a third, a third, a third, new guys, 1/3
• 42:28
  holdovers, a third year leaving. He's found a really good mix
• 42:31
  there. I think they're, on paper, they
• 42:34
  look like a team that could be a really big player in the
• 42:37
  conference again and potentially another, you know, NCAA
• 42:41
  tournament team that has Sweet 16 or even Final Four
• 42:43
  aspirations. I like the players he's brought
• 42:45
  in. I wish he had a little more
• 42:48
  height in me. I know they have Plato coming
• 42:50
  back but wish he had a little more height.
• 42:52
  But other than that, I really like what he's brought in last.
• 42:55
  Thing for me Billy Donovan leaves the bulls Florida job is
• 42:58
  not going to open up sounds like maybe just going to take a year
• 43:01
  off. Is he automatically the favorite
• 43:04
  in Kansas of self decides at the end of next year that you know
• 43:07
  what now is the time for me to to give up this gig to walk
• 43:11
  away. Is Donovan the favorite?
• 43:13
  Would he be the favorite in Kansas?
• 43:15
  I think he'd certainly be a candidate.
• 43:17
  I think you have to think about, you know, his age.
• 43:19
  I think Billy's in his 60s now. Am I right about that?
• 43:24
  He's got to be close. I mean, he was in college when I
• 43:27
  was a teenager at Providence. So he's probably in that late
• 43:30
  50s area, you know, I think if you're Kansas.
• 43:35
  Yeah, I think he'd be a. Clearly a 60 by the way, you'd
• 43:39
  be looking at frankly, a Todd Golden too.
• 43:40
  I mean, honestly, you're looking for somebody younger who can
• 43:43
  handle this NIL portal era and live through it year through
• 43:47
  year. And, you know, I think Golden
• 43:49
  would actually be a really good cast for that job.
• 43:51
  You know, it's out of Donovan. I, I think they'd want to go
• 43:53
  younger with that job. If you look at their last few
• 43:55
  hires, their coaches who have a lot of experience, who are in
• 43:59
  their 40s, I think Roy Williams is in his 40s.
• 44:02
  Bill was in his 40s. I think they'd look for somebody
• 44:04
  that could be there for, you know, 10/15/20 years.
• 44:07
  Makes sense. Musics.
• 44:08
  Play and thank you as always, Matt Poston's great to catch up
• 44:11
  with the Heartland College sports for Matt and the team
• 44:13
  over there. Thank you, Matt.
• 44:15
  We'll talk you in the weeks ahead.
• 44:16
  Appreciate it. Thanks.
• 44:17
  Thanks. Guys, get it.
• 44:18
  Good to talk to you. Billy Donovan is 60.
• 44:21
  Little Billy Donovan, 60. Makes us feel old once again.
• 44:25
  Hour or two coming off. Cappy kicks it off Miller in
• 44:27
  Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.