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Capitulo 22: Corazon a Corazon with Yesika Salgado · Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela]

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Speaker 1: have going on? Um? Well, I mean today we have
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Speaker 1: an extremely extremely extremely special guest in studio, so excited
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Speaker 1: live at Espasie which always shout out a Spasio for
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Speaker 1: this is oh and also this used to be UM
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Speaker 1: but it's now officially Radio Spasso. We have a logo,
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Speaker 1: we have like new equipment, it's really exciting, so shout
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Speaker 1: out to Radio Spasio. But we have yes. But before
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Speaker 1: we get into anything, today is Adiana's birthday, yess birthday,
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Speaker 1: and I can't say anything without wishing her a happy birthday,
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. And we got to bring this
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Speaker 1: mommy curse of getting sick right around a birthday night.
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Speaker 1: I was, girl, I was thinking about you the whole time,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, this was yes, he got right
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Speaker 1: before her birthday, even during Yeah, but we need I'm glad, No,
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Speaker 1: I'm glad that we get to celebrate you on your birthday.
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Speaker 1: So I'm so so excited. I'm really excited the mommy
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Speaker 1: collect that we'll be out and about tonight. And I
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Speaker 1: took almost a week off, so I'm ready to be back. Yes,
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Speaker 1: you're ready to get turn tonight. You're gonna be fun.
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Speaker 1: We have a lot to celebrate you. And I mean
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Speaker 1: speaking of celebrating, like, yes, he got you have so
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Speaker 1: much going on. Talk to us about your book, Talk
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Speaker 1: to us about so I wrote a book that's going
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Speaker 1: to be published through not A cult Dot Media and
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Speaker 1: O T I A c U L T dot Media
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Speaker 1: and um, they're an amazing publishers. Locally and they published
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Speaker 1: Hella Folks in l A, mostly people of color, mostly
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Speaker 1: black poets. So it's like I'm amongst really amazing company.
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Speaker 1: And they approached me and they're like, do you want
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Speaker 1: to do a book? And I was like, yeah, of course.
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Speaker 1: And so I always knew that my first book was
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Speaker 1: going to be called Corresson. And where does that come from?
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Speaker 1: Why that title? So two different things. I got a
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Speaker 1: Melo is my favorite book by Sanine sis Meadows is
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Speaker 1: my favorite book in the whole wide world. So so
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Speaker 1: when I when I was young, I wanted to have
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Speaker 1: the title of a book that mirrored what karda Melo was.
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Speaker 1: But Corrasson also, you know in Spanish we use it
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Speaker 1: as darling, like, oh, Cordresson, And my dad would say
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Speaker 1: that whenever he was in a good mood. And my
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Speaker 1: dad was an alcoholic, so be him being in a
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Speaker 1: good mood was a big deal in our home, so
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Speaker 1: sometimes he'd be like coon. And when he passed away,
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Speaker 1: I got the word Corrasson tattooed at my risk for him.
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Speaker 1: So it's a word that I have a big relationship with.
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Speaker 1: And also like I'm I consider myself like a bigger heart,
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Speaker 1: like I'm hella emotional, I'm a cancer, so yeah, let
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Speaker 1: me cancer some all feelings and it just it just
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Speaker 1: makes sense that um in general, corrasson is a word
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Speaker 1: that identify with a lot. But for the book itself,
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Speaker 1: it's a book about love and just how And it's
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Speaker 1: not about like love, it's just know it's about how
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Speaker 1: complicated and painful love can be. But yet we still
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Speaker 1: insist on returning to love, and that's what the whole
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Speaker 1: book is. Yeah, I'm in love with the with the
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Speaker 1: cover of the book. How did you decide this cover
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Speaker 1: artists gorgeous? I didn't. It's very original. I didn't, So
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Speaker 1: my publisher asked me. Um. They contacted me with UM
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Speaker 1: with a designer, the cover art artist whose name I'm
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Speaker 1: completely slipping, but her name is on the website where
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Speaker 1: you could purchase my book. And UM, I don't know her.
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Speaker 1: I haven't met her yet. You don't like lovely person.
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Speaker 1: She would stout and everything, and she they asked me
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Speaker 1: to send um some pictures and ideas of stuff that
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Speaker 1: I wanted. She didn't use any of the pictures. All
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Speaker 1: I knew was that I wanted the cover to be
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Speaker 1: blood orange, and she honored that, and then she read
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Speaker 1: some of the poems in the book and came back
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Speaker 1: with that artwork. And so it wasn't even what I envisioned.
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Speaker 1: It was something that I wanted but didn't know I
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Speaker 1: wanted right right. And can you describe for our listeners
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Speaker 1: a little bit, because I love the way that you
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Speaker 1: described the cover art, especially the specific type of mango
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Speaker 1: that she included. Yes, so it's um. It's a branch
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Speaker 1: with a mango, and then it also has a heart,
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Speaker 1: and the heart of the color of the leaves that
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Speaker 1: are on the branch also, and the mango itself isn't
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Speaker 1: a right like the mangoes that we know here, the
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Speaker 1: big juicy mangoes. It's um. It looks like the mangoes
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Speaker 1: that grow on Salvadorian trees. And I don't know what
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Speaker 1: kind of mangoes those aren't, but it's like the mangoes
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Speaker 1: that grow in my my family's property, which is why
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Speaker 1: I use mangoes a lot in my poetry. I about
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Speaker 1: when I think of it, said about the way I
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Speaker 1: think of my grandmother's mango trees. And so that's where
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Speaker 1: she got that from. And then there's that the heart
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Speaker 1: hanging is a human heart, and it's just I didn't
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Speaker 1: even know I wanted that, but it's so it was
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Speaker 1: so dope, it's so fitting. It's like I can't even
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Speaker 1: imagine it any other way, especially after reading. Yes, Yes,
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Speaker 1: I think I think the cover made made the book
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Speaker 1: what it is because I wasn't done with the book
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Speaker 1: once I got the cover, and then seeing the cover,
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Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, I completely get my entire vision.
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Speaker 1: You know. What's so beautiful is like your art inspired
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Speaker 1: the illustrator to create her art, which in turn helped
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Speaker 1: you to finish your art. Yes, you too influenced each
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Speaker 1: other to create this book. Yeah, definitely. Because then I
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Speaker 1: changed the titles to the chapters to fit that. The
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Speaker 1: chapter is called the first chapter is called the Hunger,
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Speaker 1: and then the Fruit, the bruising, the egg, and the
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Speaker 1: return and so it's all kind of around, based around
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Speaker 1: like growing outside of growing and just what like the
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Speaker 1: process that our fruit takes, you know, and like what
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Speaker 1: happens and when it with the bruising, it's a chapter
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Speaker 1: that talks about um one's love is bruised and it's
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Speaker 1: not it's not happy anymore, but you're still in love.
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Speaker 1: And you don't know if you're coming and going. And
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Speaker 1: that's kind of what the fruit right when you drop
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Speaker 1: it and it gets bruised, like the part that got
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Speaker 1: her isn't good to eat anymore, but you're still trying
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Speaker 1: to eat the fruit. So yeah, like, yeah, her, her
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Speaker 1: her vision affected my vision. And I'm just so excited.
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Speaker 1: It's just so beautiful how you two had influenced each other. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: when I think that's incredible. Whatever meeting and or each
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Speaker 1: other or anything like that, it was specifically like the
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Speaker 1: art that influenced art. That's what she's amazing. And I'm
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Speaker 1: so mad that I didn't have her name pulled up
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Speaker 1: for it. But um, she she knows what she is.
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Speaker 1: And also if you look into the book, if you
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Speaker 1: purchase the book, it will be in said the book cover.
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Speaker 1: And she's not a cult me. She works for not
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Speaker 1: a cult meat. Oh maybe I think we might be
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Speaker 1: able to pull up her name here, Cassidy. Yes, there
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Speaker 1: you go, Cassidy. And you started with a seat, but
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to see the wrong name. I can't
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Speaker 1: really Uh, it's hard for me to read the last name.
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Speaker 1: But Cassidy. We'll we'll post and give her credit um
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Speaker 1: when we post later. But and so there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of the fruit mango is consistent throughout. But also like
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Speaker 1: when you were writing it, you were talking to me
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Speaker 1: about how food in general and eating is a really
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Speaker 1: consistent theme throughout the book as well. Yeah, what, um,
10:31
Speaker 1: what y'all don't know is that Mala had a special
10:34
Speaker 1: insight to me putting the book together. Um. The book
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Speaker 1: was put together in two weeks, which yes, I said, well,
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Speaker 1: a lot of the work existed already. But when my publisher,
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Speaker 1: when I would sign the contract, it wasn't They gave
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Speaker 1: me a month. And I think we were both really
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Speaker 1: just eager on both ends just to get a book
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Speaker 1: out and excited. And I'm not a patient person. I'm
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Speaker 1: a cancer I'm not an ancient person, and so um.
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Speaker 1: And at the time when I sent a contract, that
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Speaker 1: was in the middle of a bunch of other things
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Speaker 1: that I was going to have time until mid August.
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Speaker 1: And so for two weeks, eight hours a day every day,
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Speaker 1: I sat in this coffee shop and severally called and
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Speaker 1: ma La would come and join me most days and
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Speaker 1: we would sit there and after we talked about everybody
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Speaker 1: for a few hours. After we talked about all all
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Speaker 1: the all the gentrifiers and server lake Um. Then I
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Speaker 1: would work on the book, and at the time I
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Speaker 1: was going through a breakup of the relationship that I
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Speaker 1: wrote about, and Ma La like a lot of times
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Speaker 1: had to like walk me through my feelings and then
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Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, I know what poem is missing,
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Speaker 1: and then I would be able to go back to that.
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Speaker 1: So um in the book, I used the word hunger
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Speaker 1: and eating a lot because I think uh as latin
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Speaker 1: as too, we have such a complicated relationship with food,
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Speaker 1: right and um idea was an eating disorder and a
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Speaker 1: regular basis um compulsive, you know, composed of eating and
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Speaker 1: and so I compare that a lot to the way
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Speaker 1: that you love. Sometimes it's just so compulsive that you
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Speaker 1: just want to be in love and and and then
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Speaker 1: and then also like we express love through eating and
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Speaker 1: through food. And there's a poem called and it's about
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Speaker 1: like making um and comparing a relationship to making and
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Speaker 1: stuff like that. But yeah, so food is, you know,
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Speaker 1: food is very integral to the way that we love.
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Speaker 1: And there was a term that you use in Spanish
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Speaker 1: to describe that feeling of eating so much or having
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Speaker 1: so much of something that you're having so much of
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Speaker 1: something sweet is and which is um? And so there's
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Speaker 1: a poem in that because the word doesn't exist in English.
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Speaker 1: And I think that that's also as latina as we
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Speaker 1: love like that a lot. Uh what sometimes the way
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Speaker 1: we love someone doesn't exist in the other language either
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Speaker 1: way that we're going, you know, like, um, most of
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Speaker 1: my last relationship was with the black man, and so
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of things of each other's lives
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Speaker 1: that we couldn't translate for each other, right, like like
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Speaker 1: my experience as a brown woman and his experience as
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Speaker 1: a black man, and and so there's a lot loss
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Speaker 1: in translation and I and I expressed that a lot
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Speaker 1: within the book too. Yeah. I think the book really
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Speaker 1: captures this kind of duality of existing in this you know,
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Speaker 1: these two languages and not really having the words, but
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Speaker 1: having the words in both languages, if that makes sense,
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Speaker 1: like really doing that interchange that what is that word
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Speaker 1: when you when you code switch? Yes, absolutely, And I
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Speaker 1: think that's what a lot of I would say, your
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Speaker 1: readers can really relate to loving in two languages. Yes,
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Speaker 1: thank you, Yeah, I don't. I make it a point
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Speaker 1: that a lot of writers. I telscized when they when
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Speaker 1: they switched when they use Spanish, or if they're ready
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Speaker 1: in English when they use Spanish, or the other way around.
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Speaker 1: And I don't because I feel that both languages exist
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Speaker 1: in me at the same time, and and so I don't.
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Speaker 1: I just treat them like everything. And there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of Spanish within the book enough, I mean enough where
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Speaker 1: if your own in English reader, you could still understand.
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Speaker 1: But I also there's a there's a poem at the
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Speaker 1: end of very small poem that's completely in Spanish. And
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Speaker 1: my my thing is in anything that I published, UM,
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Speaker 1: that I want my mother to be a part of.
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Speaker 1: I create something that's completely in Spanish for her to
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Speaker 1: be but I have her own experience with it and
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Speaker 1: without it having to be translated. So speaking about your mother,
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Speaker 1: I'm wondering what has it been like for you, UM,
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Speaker 1: telling your family about being published. They don't, they don't.
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Speaker 1: They don't know. They don't they don't know. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: They know, they don't they know they know the I'm
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Speaker 1: being published. I told them I want them to be there. Um,
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Speaker 1: I can. Some of them are excited, some of them aren't. UM.
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Speaker 1: I think I think because nowadays publishing is so accessible
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Speaker 1: to people, you know, with Amazon and create Space and
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Speaker 1: all that stuff, like people here, Oh, you're being published
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Speaker 1: like more common now than it has been in the past,
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Speaker 1: or or more common for people like minorities, women, people
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Speaker 1: of color previously. But but for me, I'm to be
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Speaker 1: here for a little bit. But my publisher, the people
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Speaker 1: that run my publishing company are white, right, and um
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Speaker 1: the artists that created the art is a white woman.
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Speaker 1: And I say this because in Latino, in the Latino
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Speaker 1: coming in the Latino community, you've made it when you've
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Speaker 1: got white people working for you, and so like that's true.
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Speaker 1: But this is like, this is what I'm trying to
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Speaker 1: like express to my family, where it's just like, no,
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Speaker 1: it's not that, Like I it doesn't take anything away
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Speaker 1: from you. If your self published. I think it's an
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Speaker 1: amazing feat. Obviously, it's something that I don't know how
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Speaker 1: to do myself, and I waited until a publisher approached me.
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Speaker 1: But also in on the other side of that, like
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Speaker 1: there's a whole team that that believes in my vision
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Speaker 1: enough to work for me, like without me having to
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Speaker 1: invest in they're investing in me when they're taking a
15:50
Speaker 1: risk with publishing a book that might not sell or
15:54
Speaker 1: or not. Luckily that hasn't been a problem. But you've
15:57
Speaker 1: been doing very well with the pretty UM tell us
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Speaker 1: about the pre sales, Um, I don't know exactly the
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Speaker 1: number of pre sales, but I do know my publisher
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Speaker 1: told me that we've been selling every day since we
16:08
Speaker 1: um pre since our book went up for pre sales.
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Speaker 1: That's and so at least I know what we announced
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Speaker 1: it like a mental consent and I'm still thirty copies
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Speaker 1: at least, but no, we've sold a large amount to
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Speaker 1: where I think we're going to need to do a
16:25
Speaker 1: second edition really soon. And and so it's really really exciting,
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Speaker 1: especially UM, because this is my debut like actual book,
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Speaker 1: my chat books, magazines that I've done and considered them,
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Speaker 1: my mix tapes, and this is my and and some
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Speaker 1: it's my first like it's my debut album. We're official,
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Speaker 1: your official, like you're certified, your official, And I do
16:48
Speaker 1: want to say that I want to honor the fact
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Speaker 1: that you have self published, you know, on a smaller scale,
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Speaker 1: but you've been self publishing for a while and I've
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Speaker 1: so thousands of copies self published, and UM, it's valid,
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Speaker 1: and it's an accessible way to get your work to
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Speaker 1: other people. And but it's just really hard to stay
17:06
Speaker 1: on top of it and to like, um, deal with
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Speaker 1: all of the logistics of it while you're touring artists
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Speaker 1: and while you're still expected to create new things and
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Speaker 1: um perform and host workshops and be emotionally available to
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Speaker 1: to your followers. And I'm very blessed that I have
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Speaker 1: so many of them, but it's it's a lot of work,
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Speaker 1: and sometimes I'm just like, I don't want to go
17:29
Speaker 1: to the post office or I don't want to sit
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Speaker 1: here and label all these ms. Not that I'm ungrateful,
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Speaker 1: it's just that I could be doing like I want
17:37
Speaker 1: to be doing other things. So now that there's a
17:38
Speaker 1: whole company that's willing to do that for me, I'm
17:41
Speaker 1: so excited because's one of the most excited about that.
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Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about orders getting to where
17:47
Speaker 1: they need to get to write. No, absolutely, I mean
17:50
Speaker 1: it's a huge accomplishment. We are so proud of you,
17:53
Speaker 1: like the Mommy collective, we are so proud of you.
17:57
Speaker 1: We're so proud of you. And you know when you
18:00
Speaker 1: you had put out a post about if anybody wants
18:02
Speaker 1: to interview me about the book, and also right away
18:05
Speaker 1: text me and she's like, um, hello, we need to
18:06
Speaker 1: interview her. I was like, wait a second, it needs
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Speaker 1: a thing like wait a second. But it's also interesting
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Speaker 1: to be friends with. When you become friends with people
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Speaker 1: that have platforms right like you just like, well, you're
18:20
Speaker 1: my friend, you know everything there is to know, but
18:21
Speaker 1: we forget that there's like the whole rest of the
18:23
Speaker 1: world that's listening. And then I'm like, because if I
18:27
Speaker 1: come on, I'm just going to tell you everything already
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Speaker 1: told me in the group texting, because I think about
18:32
Speaker 1: the moment collective is we talk every day all day,
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Speaker 1: like all the time, basic day long, and a lot
18:39
Speaker 1: of us don't really sleep, so we're really talking. There's
18:44
Speaker 1: always a message. Yes, She's like, guess what's so and
18:48
Speaker 1: so told me. I was like this mother gott sending
18:52
Speaker 1: God sending her memes or her got always send ship
18:57
Speaker 1: but it's the overheard in downtown of late Yes, so God.
19:01
Speaker 1: A censer means, um, my life, I always talking shit
19:05
Speaker 1: about some dude. I'm always like, can you believe this
19:10
Speaker 1: person commented this? That's a big one with us is
19:13
Speaker 1: the online activity in the comments and stuff. It's such
19:17
Speaker 1: a gift to be friends with women that, um understand
19:22
Speaker 1: what it is to have a platform on social media. Um.
19:26
Speaker 1: I worry a lot with with a lot of my
19:28
Speaker 1: friendships in my life that I become overbearing, right talking
19:32
Speaker 1: about all these things that I do because Instagram is
19:35
Speaker 1: such a huge part of my life. But two people
19:38
Speaker 1: that don't have that or don't do that, they're like,
19:41
Speaker 1: it's Instagram, calm then, down right. But for me, it's
19:44
Speaker 1: my livelihood, it's my worth. Like I booked the events
19:47
Speaker 1: I booked because of my following on Instagram because of that.
19:50
Speaker 1: So it's really I'm just so happy that I have
19:52
Speaker 1: friends that get it. And when I was like followers, like,
19:56
Speaker 1: y'all get excited for me once super. But if I
19:59
Speaker 1: tell like the HOMEI next door or whatever, it was like,
20:03
Speaker 1: all right, that's cool, you had twenty four thousand yesterday,
20:06
Speaker 1: So what's the big deal. I'm like, you know, it's
20:09
Speaker 1: a milestone. Yeah, oh no, I mean we love Instagram
20:12
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about Instagram all day and we do
20:15
Speaker 1: and we do and we do. Yes, so yeah, we
20:18
Speaker 1: have We're gonna come into our song break now and
20:27
Speaker 1: and and and and and and and friends and and
20:37
Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and and and
20:49
Speaker 1: and and we're back. So we're back, and we're back
21:13
Speaker 1: with Yessica, and we're still talking about Gassan and being
21:16
Speaker 1: on the internet and talking ship and all that good stuff.
21:20
Speaker 1: You Know, what I think is one of one of
21:21
Speaker 1: my favorite things I think that I relate to the
21:23
Speaker 1: most in the book is the way you sprinkle poems
21:28
Speaker 1: about your mental health, Yes, throughout the book, in relationship
21:33
Speaker 1: to being in love individually with your family, all of
21:38
Speaker 1: the above, which I think a lot of us with
21:40
Speaker 1: any type of mental health disorder can really relate to
21:42
Speaker 1: how you can separate it. So, can you tell us
21:45
Speaker 1: a little bit more about writing about your depression and
21:48
Speaker 1: what that has been like? Yeah? I think when I
21:51
Speaker 1: was trying to tell the story of of so Corrason
21:55
Speaker 1: is the story of a relationship, right, not vervade on
21:58
Speaker 1: any of the relationships I've lived, but maybe like accumulation
22:03
Speaker 1: of all of them, and it's this big old love story.
22:07
Speaker 1: But in telling a love story for me, I think
22:10
Speaker 1: my my mental health has to be a part of
22:14
Speaker 1: it because it affects the way that I love so
22:15
Speaker 1: much right, my anxiety, my depression, my the voices in
22:21
Speaker 1: my hand that tell me that like I'm not deserving
22:23
Speaker 1: of love, and the decisions I've made because of that,
22:27
Speaker 1: or or the days that I need whatever it is
22:30
Speaker 1: that I need in the moment, it will affect the
22:32
Speaker 1: way that I can love someone or someone can love me.
22:35
Speaker 1: And and so it was a conscious decision to include
22:39
Speaker 1: that within the book, and um, it's it was tricky
22:45
Speaker 1: in the sense that, Um, I didn't want it to
22:48
Speaker 1: feel like I was a victim of myself. Do you
22:53
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like I don't because sometimes when
22:56
Speaker 1: we feel when we talked about my depression and UM,
22:59
Speaker 1: so terrible for letting my depression do this to me
23:02
Speaker 1: or like or on this you know, and I'm like, no,
23:05
Speaker 1: like it's something that I have. And there's a poem
23:08
Speaker 1: in the first chapter that's called, um my depression speaks
23:11
Speaker 1: to me. And in the in the poem, the depression
23:14
Speaker 1: is like asking me, like are you going to tell
23:15
Speaker 1: him that this is what you deal with? Like are
23:18
Speaker 1: you going to tell him that you have depression? Or
23:20
Speaker 1: he's just gonna wait until it pushes him away? And
23:23
Speaker 1: I think that that's always like the decision that you
23:25
Speaker 1: make when you're in a relationship, just like, well, you know,
23:28
Speaker 1: when do I tell him I have mental health issues
23:30
Speaker 1: or do I let him figure it out and see
23:32
Speaker 1: if he's gonna stay or if he's going to go.
23:33
Speaker 1: And I think that in every relationship there's that period
23:36
Speaker 1: where like you have to decide what's going to happen.
23:39
Speaker 1: Like when he asked you why you're up really late
23:42
Speaker 1: every night? Do you just tell him that you're in
23:44
Speaker 1: in something like you're just a night owl or that
23:46
Speaker 1: your anxiety doesn't that easily and and so there's always
23:50
Speaker 1: that that question of like when can I be vulnerable
23:53
Speaker 1: and when can I can I allow this person? And
23:55
Speaker 1: so in the chapter that's about founding in love is
23:57
Speaker 1: kind of like the surrender, like Okay, well here I
24:00
Speaker 1: am with my issues both mental and physical, and like
24:05
Speaker 1: he says, it's okay, so I'm going to believe him.
24:09
Speaker 1: And it's so interesting because the parts of you that
24:12
Speaker 1: are visible to others are just as integral and important
24:16
Speaker 1: to your functioning as the parts that are invisible to others.
24:19
Speaker 1: So it's like what parts do you choose to show?
24:21
Speaker 1: And do you have no choice to show? And how
24:24
Speaker 1: people react to each and every part of your definitely.
24:27
Speaker 1: And um, There's there's a chapter in the following in
24:31
Speaker 1: Love section that's called Belula, and it talks about facial
24:34
Speaker 1: hair and how I wouldn't want to stay over at
24:37
Speaker 1: a partner's house because I didn't want him to see
24:40
Speaker 1: that like I shaved my face, and so in the
24:43
Speaker 1: in the book, I also allude to my mental health
24:45
Speaker 1: within in that chap in that poem, I allude to
24:48
Speaker 1: my mental health within it too because I feel that
24:50
Speaker 1: like my anxiety is a part of that too. And
24:52
Speaker 1: then it talks about finally stays finally spending the night
24:56
Speaker 1: at his house, and in thinking like, so, this is
24:59
Speaker 1: what love feels like in this moment. It is safe
25:02
Speaker 1: for me to stand here in your kitchen with all
25:05
Speaker 1: my facial hair and all my issues and like whatever
25:09
Speaker 1: it is, and it's just I'm just me. And I
25:13
Speaker 1: think that that's an important thing that we see. We're
25:15
Speaker 1: always looking for that inl Yeah, that's safetiness that this
25:18
Speaker 1: person isn't gonna leave because you have, you know, in
25:21
Speaker 1: an anxiety attack, right or because you know you have acne,
25:24
Speaker 1: or you have facial hair, you know, and things that
25:27
Speaker 1: you're insecure about and that your anxiety are also also
25:30
Speaker 1: hiden right and if they do leave right, which in
25:33
Speaker 1: the book they do leave, and when they when they left,
25:36
Speaker 1: it's that the dealing with the self talk afterwards, where
25:40
Speaker 1: like I pushed him away, and there's a lot of
25:42
Speaker 1: that in the book. There's a lot about like you
25:45
Speaker 1: couldn't put up with me anymore, um, and then there's
25:47
Speaker 1: a lot of the like, no, but I'm okay, I'm
25:49
Speaker 1: gonna be okay, I'm gonna be okay, I'm gonna be okay.
25:52
Speaker 1: Maybe you know that that's kind of what we gotta
25:55
Speaker 1: deal with ultimately, that's what happens to when you were
25:56
Speaker 1: throw a breakup. Self talk of like I did all
25:59
Speaker 1: this ship, they did all this ship. No, you're gonna
26:01
Speaker 1: be okay, No you're not. Yes you are, Yes, yes,
26:04
Speaker 1: the back and forth, back and forth. And I love
26:06
Speaker 1: how on the topic of love, like the book deals
26:09
Speaker 1: with love on many different levels and in many different
26:12
Speaker 1: directions love, love of self, love of a man, love
26:16
Speaker 1: a family, love of your theorra. And I love the
26:20
Speaker 1: fact that a lot of the terms that you use
26:22
Speaker 1: are very intimate terms that like we would call each other,
26:26
Speaker 1: that you would hear within families specifically, not amongst strangers,
26:29
Speaker 1: like like like you talked about grasson or go to
26:32
Speaker 1: back is another title of another poem, right, And I
26:35
Speaker 1: think that it's just so beautiful the way that you
26:37
Speaker 1: incorporated that like intimate like even even familial love into
26:41
Speaker 1: the work. I think even home girl love is in there. Yes,
26:45
Speaker 1: there's there's one about home girl love, which is which
26:48
Speaker 1: is a very um brief short I think sometimes you
26:52
Speaker 1: could tell the biggest story with the shortest in the
26:54
Speaker 1: shortest spending time. And it's about someone just asking you
26:57
Speaker 1: if you have a bobby pin, and you giving a
27:00
Speaker 1: girl bobby pin and just sitting together in the bus
27:02
Speaker 1: headed home, and and like the poem doesn't say it's
27:05
Speaker 1: a stranger, if it's your home girl or whatever. It
27:08
Speaker 1: just says that it's another woman. And um. But all
27:12
Speaker 1: that love that UM I made sure to include into
27:15
Speaker 1: the book is because you can't separate any of that
27:17
Speaker 1: your family teaches you to love. So that's that was
27:20
Speaker 1: like the groundwork to what I was doing. I'm like,
27:23
Speaker 1: I know everything you know about love is what my
27:26
Speaker 1: parents taught me. And my parents taught me to love
27:28
Speaker 1: their home country, and my parents taught me that love
27:31
Speaker 1: is dysfunctional because they were dysfunctional. And then they taught
27:34
Speaker 1: me that I love for gifts, but they also told
27:36
Speaker 1: me that love hurts, and and that was the groundwork
27:39
Speaker 1: to like everything that I've done. I'm like, you have
27:41
Speaker 1: to you have to know my relationship with my family
27:44
Speaker 1: before you know my relationship with men. And that's why
27:48
Speaker 1: the poem begins, the book begins and ends where I'm
27:50
Speaker 1: talking about my roots, you know, and which is my family,
27:54
Speaker 1: and it's about absolutely and I love also how you
27:59
Speaker 1: describe so much of a sal and like the trees,
28:03
Speaker 1: the actual like the property that your family has down there.
28:08
Speaker 1: And when I would go sit with you at right
28:12
Speaker 1: and you were describing to me like your memories of
28:14
Speaker 1: being in a salad and it's been a few years,
28:17
Speaker 1: like it gave me such an insight into you. You
28:19
Speaker 1: know that I would have no access to to those
28:23
Speaker 1: that type of information about you because I've never been
28:25
Speaker 1: to this place. I've never been with you in this place, right, Yeah,
28:29
Speaker 1: it's I think I think it's important for me to
28:32
Speaker 1: talk about my love to send about for you don't
28:33
Speaker 1: understand how I live in content nostalgia, And I think
28:37
Speaker 1: that that affects the way that I love to like.
28:39
Speaker 1: I'm a very melancholy, nostalgic person, idealize a lot of
28:43
Speaker 1: things I live like in theory a lot um, and
28:46
Speaker 1: I think that that you have to understand that about
28:50
Speaker 1: me to understand how I approach love. Um, the man
28:52
Speaker 1: that the book is mostly about, UM always tells me
28:55
Speaker 1: that he's always just like, you're always living in what
28:57
Speaker 1: things should be, but not in what things are. And
29:00
Speaker 1: at first I get pissed, because I mean, we have
29:02
Speaker 1: other shoes. I was on the phone with him before
29:06
Speaker 1: I got here, so I'm like, whatever, but Um, But
29:10
Speaker 1: but he's right, like I'm always just like, this is
29:12
Speaker 1: what we should be looking like right now, this is
29:14
Speaker 1: what everything should be, because this is what he told
29:16
Speaker 1: me it was going to be, and that's what I
29:18
Speaker 1: said about it. It It was for me. I grew up
29:19
Speaker 1: listening to all the stories about my mom, and then
29:21
Speaker 1: I showed up as a as a twelve year old
29:23
Speaker 1: for the first time, I was like, what the fun
29:25
Speaker 1: is all it is? And then going back and spending
29:28
Speaker 1: so many summers, and then going as a teenager, and
29:31
Speaker 1: then not going for a while, and then going as
29:32
Speaker 1: an adult. I was just like I didn't realize it
29:35
Speaker 1: was this fucked up and then and then now not
29:38
Speaker 1: having gone seven years, everything looks different in retrospect because
29:42
Speaker 1: it's been so long, so the nostal just like making
29:44
Speaker 1: everything softer and pretty. It's constantly changing. Yeah, I think
29:48
Speaker 1: that's a really common feeling when you haven't been to
29:50
Speaker 1: your home country in a long time. You know. I
29:53
Speaker 1: think about my father and how he has only been
29:56
Speaker 1: back to a bit of a few times since he
29:57
Speaker 1: immigrated here, and that kind of I feel that nostalgia
30:01
Speaker 1: for him, even though that's not something he may feel.
30:03
Speaker 1: But it's like, I haven't been back to bedouin almost
30:06
Speaker 1: four years, and like, I feel so much nostalgia, you know,
30:09
Speaker 1: in a country that I wouldn't even I wasn't born in,
30:11
Speaker 1: you know. So it's this kind of I completely relate
30:14
Speaker 1: to what you're saying about the way we love our
30:16
Speaker 1: families and our countries, and then the way it also
30:19
Speaker 1: affects the way we love our partners. Yes, definitely. And
30:22
Speaker 1: I wonder, Yesterka, like if you had gone to a
30:25
Speaker 1: Salvador recently and then wrote the book, like if you
30:29
Speaker 1: went last year and then this opportunity still came to
30:32
Speaker 1: write the book. How do you think that maybe the
30:35
Speaker 1: book would have come out differently the book there would
30:37
Speaker 1: have been more of a duality within the book. I
30:40
Speaker 1: think it would have been more of a clear line
30:41
Speaker 1: between like this is it had. When you go back
30:46
Speaker 1: home and you come back, you come back even more
30:47
Speaker 1: confused because I lived my life here being like, I'm Savadorian,
30:52
Speaker 1: I'm Salvadorian, I'm Salvadorian, I'm Salvia, I'm a Salvy poet,
30:55
Speaker 1: I'm Salvia. I'm Central American. Don't call me in Mexican,
30:57
Speaker 1: call me Salvi, right like. And then I show up
30:59
Speaker 1: and I said althoad And then they're like, um, you
31:02
Speaker 1: don't have a Salva accent. We have a Mexican accent?
31:05
Speaker 1: Are you Megican? Are you sure you're not Mexican? H
31:09
Speaker 1: l menana like and then like I stick out like
31:15
Speaker 1: a sore thumb. You could tell them that there because
31:17
Speaker 1: people first of all, because of of like socio economic
31:20
Speaker 1: reasons or whatever, people aren't as overweight as I am. Right. Also,
31:24
Speaker 1: everything is organic there, so like you don't have all
31:27
Speaker 1: the extra ship pumped into you, right, So I'm already bigger,
31:30
Speaker 1: And that's a whole other thing to navigate that the
31:32
Speaker 1: whole other topic. But I just stick out like a
31:34
Speaker 1: sore thumb. So I always come back a little broken hearted,
31:37
Speaker 1: a little broken hearted, and and a little like displaced,
31:42
Speaker 1: because I'm upset to be back here where life is
31:44
Speaker 1: such so hustle and bustle and such a fight, a
31:47
Speaker 1: constant fight. But over there, I'm not from there, and
31:50
Speaker 1: I'm missing here until you're like in this like where
31:52
Speaker 1: is home? And I think that that's why I tend
31:54
Speaker 1: to make home out of men, And then that's what
31:56
Speaker 1: the book is, because I'm always like, Okay, well why
32:00
Speaker 1: do I fit in? You're like where do I fit in?
32:02
Speaker 1: So like I'm trying to build something that's completely mine
32:05
Speaker 1: with somebody else, but we forget that that somebody else
32:07
Speaker 1: is their own person and they can't be completely yours instead,
32:12
Speaker 1: and so I think, um, what Corrasson comes. The last
32:16
Speaker 1: chapter of Cordresson is called the Return, and it's about
32:19
Speaker 1: carving your own corner and being like, well this like
32:23
Speaker 1: there's a there's a poem called the House on Parkman Avenue,
32:27
Speaker 1: which is the street that I live on and the
32:29
Speaker 1: home that I grew up in, and it's just a
32:31
Speaker 1: moment where I'm sitting on the couch with Minnie, s
32:33
Speaker 1: and f you and my mom and sisters are in
32:35
Speaker 1: the house and those are like the most important people
32:37
Speaker 1: in my life and like that's it. That's my world
32:39
Speaker 1: and in the moment that that's all right, in that moment,
32:42
Speaker 1: that's all that matters, and that's my world. And I
32:44
Speaker 1: think that that's what um the book has taught me
32:48
Speaker 1: that like in this world, there's five people that the
32:50
Speaker 1: world can't take for me. And that's what love is,
32:53
Speaker 1: you know, Like that that whole thing is just like
32:55
Speaker 1: I could travel everywhere, go everywhere and come back and
32:58
Speaker 1: like these five bodies are year in their mind. And
33:01
Speaker 1: I think that. And I love that you bring up
33:03
Speaker 1: your mom because you know, I feel like all three
33:05
Speaker 1: of us really love our mothers. Like all three of
33:07
Speaker 1: us have very special relationships with our mothers. And we
33:10
Speaker 1: have great moms, you know, and they're all very different,
33:13
Speaker 1: all of our mothers, but we each we'll talk about
33:16
Speaker 1: that and yeah, there is like in my life, Like
33:19
Speaker 1: I love my father. He's amazing. He would do anything
33:21
Speaker 1: for me, he would kill for me, and he's fantastic.
33:24
Speaker 1: But there's something about mom there's something about your mother
33:28
Speaker 1: and that mother's love that is just like so intense
33:32
Speaker 1: and unlike any other love you will ever experience from
33:35
Speaker 1: anybody else. And you know that your mother has your back. Yeah,
33:38
Speaker 1: And I felt guilty a lot of my work because
33:40
Speaker 1: I write a lot about my dad. My dad passed
33:42
Speaker 1: away eight years ago, and so my growing up, my
33:45
Speaker 1: dad was an alcoholic, but he and I worked close,
33:47
Speaker 1: we worked together in our adulthoods and so, and there
33:51
Speaker 1: was his illness and then taking care of him towards
33:53
Speaker 1: the end. So my dad consumed so much of my life,
33:56
Speaker 1: whether it was through abuse or through healing or through
33:58
Speaker 1: whatever it is that we were going through. And my
34:00
Speaker 1: mother has always just been this entity, constant, this constant
34:04
Speaker 1: beam of love and support and and just she was stable,
34:08
Speaker 1: so I never felt like I had to check on
34:10
Speaker 1: her or like be there for her. And so now
34:13
Speaker 1: in his absence, we've had to redefine our friendship, I mean,
34:17
Speaker 1: our relationship, you know, and also like find when you're
34:19
Speaker 1: an adult. I'm thirty three years old, So when you're
34:21
Speaker 1: as old as I am, you have to build a
34:23
Speaker 1: friendship with your mother because it's not you don't need
34:26
Speaker 1: them in the way that you needed them before. Yeah,
34:30
Speaker 1: you kind of gotta figure out like what your relationship
34:32
Speaker 1: looks like now. And and my mom and I are
34:34
Speaker 1: figuring it out. She doesn't get what I do. Um.
34:39
Speaker 1: I told her, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna she works.
34:41
Speaker 1: She's the housekeeper for um uh famous comedian from the eighties, right,
34:48
Speaker 1: And um I was just like, well should I'm like,
34:50
Speaker 1: I'm going to send them a copy of the book
34:53
Speaker 1: or like tell them about the book or they want
34:54
Speaker 1: to come to the book released. And she's like, are
34:56
Speaker 1: you sure? Like you say a lot of really like
35:00
Speaker 1: you say a lot of like wild ship, And I
35:03
Speaker 1: was just like, what are you? And then like I
35:04
Speaker 1: got really defending on like what are you talking about?
35:07
Speaker 1: What wild are you talking about specifically? And then I
35:10
Speaker 1: was just like, are you talking about want to talk
35:11
Speaker 1: to you about? Man? I want to talk to you
35:13
Speaker 1: about white people? Like I don't know, I need to
35:15
Speaker 1: know which. One year and so she didn't. She goes
35:18
Speaker 1: just on Facebook, you say, like really like really like
35:22
Speaker 1: she follows me on Facebook and she doesn't read English,
35:26
Speaker 1: but Facebook translates it for you, right, So she I
35:29
Speaker 1: forget every day and I'd be talking about Dick on there,
35:32
Speaker 1: and oh my god, I'm dying. That is so true.
35:35
Speaker 1: You do talk about Dick on Facebook on Facebook, and yes,
35:39
Speaker 1: because it's where, because Instagram is good for posting poetry,
35:44
Speaker 1: um whatever. But it's really hard to engage a lot Twitter.
35:48
Speaker 1: I go on rants, but there's a character limit and
35:51
Speaker 1: all that and um other things on Twitter and then
35:55
Speaker 1: on Facebook and then on Facebook. It's just where I
36:01
Speaker 1: actually like get to have conversations with people. And I
36:05
Speaker 1: don't know, I love social media. I don't care about
36:07
Speaker 1: people that knock it and be like those people they
36:11
Speaker 1: don't like that I met, blocked me. I met because
36:14
Speaker 1: of Instagram. If that's not valuable, then what what? What
36:19
Speaker 1: you know? I have a lot of beautiful people in
36:21
Speaker 1: my life, and half of them half of them I
36:24
Speaker 1: met because of social media. I don't And you know
36:27
Speaker 1: what I was thinking about the other day, Like we
36:29
Speaker 1: have been on the internet basically our whole lives, like
36:32
Speaker 1: starting with A I am starting with Aim, my Space
36:37
Speaker 1: and then Facebook for me, Tumbler, Twitter, Instagram and consistently
36:44
Speaker 1: for years. Well yeah, we've got at least us since
36:47
Speaker 1: we were me what was probably eleven twelve when I
36:49
Speaker 1: was on Aim, and stuff, and it's been every year.
36:53
Speaker 1: I have been on some type of social media platform
36:55
Speaker 1: since I was eleven years old. We got a computer
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Speaker 1: in my house. I think I was sixteen or seventeen,
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Speaker 1: probably seventeen, and I've been I mean, I was doing
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Speaker 1: a lot of extra ship. I used to be a
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Speaker 1: I used to be a catfish. Yeah, I had a
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Speaker 1: made up life. I had a husband, two kids. Um,
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Speaker 1: I got a divorce, a lot I had going but
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Speaker 1: but no but I but I've been sharing my poetry
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Speaker 1: online since I was seventeen years old. So I've been
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Speaker 1: sharing my poetry online for what thirteen sixteen years A
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Speaker 1: long time. And so when people ask me, like how
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Speaker 1: I built the platform or whatever, I'm like, look like recently, yeah,
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Speaker 1: my followers are now like high up there. But I've
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Speaker 1: been engaging and sharing my work um for half of
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Speaker 1: my life. And we've been engaging like we have our
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Speaker 1: our people about fem tech, right, I mean we can
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Speaker 1: talk about how like so many women of color are
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Speaker 1: all of our little friends when we were younger and
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Speaker 1: as adults, so many of us have been engaged with
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Speaker 1: the internet and when technology and find our own nice
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Speaker 1: space pages. I knew and whatever it was. We've been
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Speaker 1: film techis for years. I knew how to add the glitter,
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Speaker 1: the glitter and the colors and I gotta travel once
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Speaker 1: for having um in peppers um the I don't want
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Speaker 1: no any meaning. The short dick Man song. I guess
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Speaker 1: I was talking to something. I had a short dick
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Speaker 1: I didn't know, and he was like, why you put
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Speaker 1: that song on there? And I used to, you know,
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Speaker 1: being able to dedicate I missed that. Haven't been able
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Speaker 1: to dedicate a song to somebody on your mindspace? It's
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Speaker 1: very cute and very romantic. You can't do that on
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Speaker 1: Facebook no more, no or anywhere, but you could still
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Speaker 1: poke people on Facebook, which you could put their name
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Speaker 1: with a heart in your bio and still d M
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Speaker 1: other woman but whatever whatever that's that's your likes. That's
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Speaker 1: so true. I love that. I love that because y'all know,
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Speaker 1: I've been like I was a for like a minute.
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Speaker 1: And that's the thing is, we wanted to acknowledge we
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Speaker 1: all have all of us at some point or the other,
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Speaker 1: whether you knew it or not, whether you knew it
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Speaker 1: or not, yes, in some way on some level like it. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I was I was all in it. I was just
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Speaker 1: like cheese man. I was like, I want to know when, where? How? Wait? Why? What? Funny?
39:23
Speaker 1: But in other news, and you know, there's more to
39:27
Speaker 1: the book as far as you have your book release
39:30
Speaker 1: also coming up, you have you have a couple of
39:32
Speaker 1: different book related events coming up. And so there's there's
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Speaker 1: two that I'm very excited about in their month apart
39:37
Speaker 1: the one that you need to be at this week.
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Speaker 1: It's at Thursday October twelve pm at Art Share l A,
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Speaker 1: free to get in, free parking across the street. Um,
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Speaker 1: I'm really hoping that all of l A shows up.
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Speaker 1: Oh and we'll be there. Oh yes, yes, the mommies
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Speaker 1: are going to be there, of course, all of us,
39:59
Speaker 1: so we could get in at right. Honestly, there's no list,
40:03
Speaker 1: so it will be first come, first serve. Um, there's
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Speaker 1: everything's gonna I'm gonna start punctually at eight pm. Um,
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get everybody out by like the show
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Speaker 1: itself done by thirty. But afterwards I will be we
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Speaker 1: will be selling books there and I will be signing
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Speaker 1: books and taking pictures with you. I mean, you don't
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Speaker 1: have to take a picture of me. I don't want
40:23
Speaker 1: to assume people want to take pictures, but if you
40:27
Speaker 1: follow me, you know that I'm all about the pictures.
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Speaker 1: But basically we'll be I'll be signing books, and UM,
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Speaker 1: I just want you to take out some home with
40:35
Speaker 1: you and it's it's going to be fifteen dollars to
40:37
Speaker 1: cash your card, and UM, yeah, we're gonna have some
40:41
Speaker 1: guest poets at your book. I have ten guests, so
40:44
Speaker 1: ill I'm hella extra most people, if you've never been
40:47
Speaker 1: to a book release, Um, in most poetry circuits, when
40:50
Speaker 1: there's a book release, people will have four or three
40:53
Speaker 1: of the closest friends or just post they admire or whatever,
40:56
Speaker 1: come and do a set of their work, read three
40:58
Speaker 1: or three poems or or poems. Ah, and then they'll
41:02
Speaker 1: I'll go up, and then comes the person that whose
41:05
Speaker 1: book releases, and then they do a whole set. Because
41:09
Speaker 1: I have so many friends I love, and because I'm
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Speaker 1: a diva, I didn't want anybody else to be doing
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Speaker 1: this set that wasn't me, and so then but I
41:16
Speaker 1: still wanted to give everybody, like hello poems and I
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Speaker 1: have so many gifted, amazing, legendary poets that are my friends,
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Speaker 1: and I asked them to come and read. So she
41:26
Speaker 1: Handlan Claive. If you don't know who she Hunt is,
41:29
Speaker 1: please look him up. He's one of the founders of
41:31
Speaker 1: the Portal Lounge legend, the legend, and he's he's been
41:36
Speaker 1: my coach and I call him my mentor. I don't
41:37
Speaker 1: know if he if he agrees, but he's my mentor.
41:40
Speaker 1: And all had to crush on she Hun at one
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Speaker 1: time in our lives, one time or another. I remember
41:45
Speaker 1: I had the biggest when he had his longer hair
41:48
Speaker 1: and he would wear it up on top. I died.
41:53
Speaker 1: I died because to me, he's like such a like
41:55
Speaker 1: not my dad, but he's like such a dad coach kids.
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Speaker 1: Yes he has three kids, but like when women call
42:02
Speaker 1: him like yeah whatever. So Javon Johnson will be there.
42:05
Speaker 1: Who's another another person who's my mentor? And javan so
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Speaker 1: extra and um Alicia wise, I want to fire a
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Speaker 1: partner host loving and when body just a bunch of
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Speaker 1: other people that if I go down, the list c
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Speaker 1: too long. But it's ten folks and they're doing one
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Speaker 1: poem each, and you just get to see who influenced
42:24
Speaker 1: me and why I am who I am as a
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Speaker 1: poet and and then November eleven, which more information will
42:28
Speaker 1: come about. That will be a reading and a discussion
42:31
Speaker 1: and assigning of Corrasson at Espacio hosted by local radio.
42:38
Speaker 1: And so that's it would be a super cute night
42:41
Speaker 1: with um because I'm a diva and I'm doing two
42:44
Speaker 1: book releases. Yeah, why not? Right? Why the funk not?
42:48
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, it's a big accomplishment, It's a
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Speaker 1: big deal. It's a beautiful book, a labor of love.
42:53
Speaker 1: You poured so much of yourself into it. Let's and
42:56
Speaker 1: I know. And that's the thing is your readers and
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Speaker 1: your follower your leader. I can't talk your readers and
43:02
Speaker 1: your followers. They want to celebrate with you. They do.
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Speaker 1: And because a lot of I share my work online right,
43:09
Speaker 1: A lot of these poems I've already existed on Instagram before,
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Speaker 1: and I feel they they my followers. They don't get
43:15
Speaker 1: it that they were a big part of the book too,
43:18
Speaker 1: because I know what resonates with them. It's not that
43:21
Speaker 1: I'm catering to what they want, but I'm having a conversation.
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Speaker 1: There's a dialogue with with the people that support me,
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Speaker 1: and what resonates with them is what pushes me to
43:29
Speaker 1: want to write more about that one specific topic. And
43:32
Speaker 1: so when I was choosing the poems, I was literally
43:34
Speaker 1: looking at the comments under poems and stuff like that,
43:37
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, this is important because this is
43:39
Speaker 1: important to my followers, so be thank you so much
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Speaker 1: for having me. This was so fun, so much fun.
43:47
Speaker 1: We have to do this again, yea, And that would
43:49
Speaker 1: if you excuse us. We're gonna go party for the
43:51
Speaker 1: sas birthday. We're like, we gotta get them, we gotta
43:54
Speaker 1: wrap up, you gotta get ready to the party. So
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Speaker 1: remember October twelve, next week at archer La Yes Beca's
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Speaker 1: book release. And we also have a fun little announcement.
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Speaker 1: Super excited, so we are we lass are so proud
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Speaker 1: to announce that we will be participating in this year's
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Speaker 1: first ever podcast sterio Festeen, which is a Latin X
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Speaker 1: digital media experience. The podcast fest was created to amplify
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Speaker 1: the Latin X voices of the podcast world and as
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Speaker 1: a space for the community to discuss the visibility and
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Speaker 1: invisibility of Latin X digital content creators. Podcast sto Fest
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Speaker 1: is presented by Dominetto and it will take place Sunday,
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Speaker 1: November nineteenth at downtown at Lake. The event is free.
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Speaker 1: It's a free event. It's open to the public. Um
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Speaker 1: and if you want more information on podcast sterio Fest
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Speaker 1: and Domingueto, please follow on Instagram. Yes at podcast sterdio
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Speaker 1: Fest and at don't share the links if you missed
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Speaker 1: it on If you missed it, it's already on Instagram.
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Speaker 1: Actually Mala shared it with the you know, proper tags
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Speaker 1: and all that. So go ahead and find it and
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Speaker 1: we'll share it. We'll keep sharing it. Thank you again,
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Speaker 1: thank you, Yes, until next time, does