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- 0:06From the On Air Across America newsroom.
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- 0:31262 to 159. It now goes to President Trump
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- 1:23I'm Alex Ross. The world is a complicated
- 1:35place. Fortunately, Dave Bowman has
- 1:37opinions, some informed, some inconvenient, and a few that may
- 1:42require supporting documentation, history,
- 1:45politics, and the absurdity of modern life.
- 1:48This is the Dave Bowman Show. Well, good morning, good evening
- 1:55or good afternoon, wherever you are, whatever you do, a lot of
- 1:58things happening in the world. Today, most of them are far
- 2:00beyond our. Control, you might say.
- 2:01So perhaps it's time we took a pause and thought about life.
- 2:06How about the laws of gravity? Frustration.
- 2:10The Constitution. Of the United States of America.
- 2:1417th Amendment and the 17th of. September, don't touch that
- 2:19dial. Just try to hear me out for a
- 2:20little while. Telephone and text 209565 Dave.
- 2:25It's 209-5653. 283. E-mail Dave at the Dave
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- 2:40And you can get the podcast everywhere, Spotify, iTunes and
- 2:44the places. So unlike yesterday, today I
- 2:48actually know. But I can't.
- 2:50Say nothing. So that's all I got to say about
- 2:53that. I had a terrible day yesterday.
- 2:56Very stressful, very angry, Very.
- 3:03Maybe one of these days I'll get into it.
- 3:04I don't want to do it now because.
- 3:07I think I have a. Solution, but I don't know,
- 3:09won't know until. 2:00 this afternoon, let's see what
- 3:14happens. But today is not.
- 3:16Really about Mitch McConnell? Serious.
- 3:20We're not really talking about Mitch McConnell.
- 3:23We're not even talking about Dianne Feinstein.
- 3:25Even though their names. Will enter into this.
- 3:27Discussion. It really isn't just about old
- 3:29people. Serving in Congress.
- 3:31It's about what happens when the political.
- 3:33Value of a Senate seat becomes more important.
- 3:36Than the cognitive. Abilities of the person.
- 3:38Occupying it to represent the people.
- 3:41Of their state, McConnell returned to the Senate this week
- 3:45after roughly. Three months away following a.
- 3:49Fall. That's what we were told.
- 3:51A hospitalization, rehabilitation, and about a
- 3:55bazillion memes. At 84 years of age.
- 3:59He has acknowledged that he has not completely recovered and may
- 4:01still miss votes. His absence, of course, had a.
- 4:05Practical effect for the Republican efforts.
- 4:08To move legislation through. Committees and reporters asked
- 4:12him whether he would complete. His term?
- 4:15He did not answer. Per Reuters, his office had
- 4:20previously released a written. Statement attributed to him
- 4:25saying that he intended to finish his term.
- 4:29He didn't. Actually say that it was
- 4:32attributed to him. That's a big difference.
- 4:37We don't know who. Physically wrote that statement.
- 4:40And I'm not going to claim that I do.
- 4:43But I. Bet you it wasn't Mitch
- 4:46McConnell. Fact if I could use.
- 4:48Kalci in the state of Washington.
- 4:50I'd take that bet in a heartbeat.
- 4:53In July of 2023, during a Senate Appropriations Committee vote.
- 4:57You may remember this. Dianne Feinstein began
- 4:59delivering remarks when she was supposed to just.
- 5:01Vote How do you vote? She began to deliver remarks.
- 5:07Senator Patty Murray. Our senator up here Who?
- 5:11Is complaining about. Medicaid cuts that haven't.
- 5:14Happened yet had an aide had to prompt Dianne Feinstein until.
- 5:20Murray just finally said to her quote.
- 5:22Just say. I UN quote she.
- 5:26Literally had to tell. Dianne Feinstein How to vote.
- 5:30And that should. Bother you?
- 5:31I don't care if you're a Republican, Democrat, whatever.
- 5:35If that if that didn't bother you, you're not a good American.
- 5:42The issue isn't whether. Feinstein is a Democrat or
- 5:45McConnell's a Republican. The issue is whether political
- 5:47institutions have incentives. To preserve a senator's vote.
- 5:53Even when legitimate questions exist.
- 5:55About the senator's capacity to actually do the job.
- 6:00And actually, strangely enough. That takes us all the way back
- 6:03to. Philadelphia in 1787.
- 6:08The framers as they sign the Constitution on this day.
- 6:13Had created 2 very different. Houses of Congress The House
- 6:17represented the. People directly.
- 6:20You know this the Senate was intended to represent.
- 6:23The states as political entities and originally Article 1
- 6:28provided that senators. Would be chosen.
- 6:30By the state legislatures for six year terms.
- 6:33Only one third coming up for. Selection every two years.
- 6:36The Senate. Historical Office notes.
- 6:38That the legislative selection. Was intended to both strengthen
- 6:41the connection between the state governments and the federal
- 6:43government and to insulate. Senators from rapidly changing
- 6:48popular. Opinion.
- 6:51This was the architecture. At least in part of what we know
- 6:56as federalism. The house was.
- 6:59Designed to say what? Do the.
- 7:00People want the Senate. Was there to say what do the
- 7:03states. Want and the.
- 7:05President's purpose was to say what?
- 7:07Does the nation want and the framers had made it
- 7:11intentionally difficult to change the.
- 7:13Senate very quickly. Remember the house?
- 7:15Could change every two years, but the.
- 7:17Senate, it was difficult to move those things in 1913.
- 7:23We changed the system with the 17th Amendment.
- 7:27The question you have to ask is did we merely change the method
- 7:29of election of a senator, or did we fundamentally change whom
- 7:33the. Senators were politically
- 7:34accountable. To look, don't romanticize that
- 7:39original system. It's easy to do.
- 7:41And indeed, I've done it myself. I I was a big fan when he was on
- 7:46the air of Neil Bortz. Neil Bortz would lecture about
- 7:48this quite quite. Commonly how the 17th Amendment.
- 7:53Is really what? Led to debt and federal
- 7:57overspending and federal. Overreach, and in a lot of ways
- 7:59is right, but the old. System had genuine problems just
- 8:03as. Well, state legislatures became.
- 8:06Hopelessly, and I mean hopelessly, deadlocked over
- 8:09Senate elections between 1891 and 19 O 5.
- 8:14There were 46. And remember, we only had. 48
- 8:17States legislative deadlocks. The legislatures ultimately
- 8:21failed to elect a senator 14. Times with the.
- 8:26State of Delaware going. 4. Years without a senator.
- 8:29In Washington now what you may not.
- 8:32Realize is that's a. Violation of your
- 8:34constitutional. Rights that is a you are
- 8:38guaranteed. No state shall be.
- 8:40Deprived as suffrage except by its.
- 8:42Consent and now I'm. Pretty sure the state of
- 8:46Delaware, the people of state of.
- 8:47Delaware did not consent to that.
- 8:50There was. Corruption as well 9.
- 8:52Bribery cases reached the Senate.
- 8:54Between 1866 and 19 O 69, the William Lorimore scandal in
- 9:01Illinois, we don't have time to go into it, became particularly
- 9:04damaging to the old system and progressive reformers.
- 9:08Argued that senators had become creatures of the.
- 9:10Party bosses, corporations and wealthy interests, even in the
- 9:16home states. You just buy off a state
- 9:19legislature and get the. Guy you want in.
- 9:23The proposal to solve this. Problem was was simple.
- 9:28Let the people elect the senators directly, OK?
- 9:34But there is an important. Part of the story that
- 9:35occasionally disappears. There were numerous.
- 9:38States that were already. Doing.
- 9:40This that were already. Experimenting in ways with.
- 9:43Popular. Selection of the Senators Oregon
- 9:46had developed a system under which legislative candidates.
- 9:49To the state legislature had to pledge.
- 9:52To support the Senate candidate that had been chosen by the
- 9:55voters, they couldn't elect the. Senator, but they could tell the
- 9:59the state legislature. Who they wanted and if you.
- 10:01Wanted to by law. In Oregon, you.
- 10:04Had to support that. Candidate By 1911, more than
- 10:08half the states in the country were using some form of popular
- 10:13input, and by 1912 as many as 29.
- 10:18States effectively were. Electing their senators through.
- 10:21Primaries or flat out general elections.
- 10:25Was already kind of happening, folks.
- 10:28The 17th Amendment was then ratified in 1913, and it
- 10:32unquestionably solved some of those.
- 10:36Problems. Legislative deadlocks.
- 10:39Over choosing senators disappeared.
- 10:42But the. Corruption did not.
- 10:45The Senate Historical Office. Notice notes that after
- 10:49ratification, disputes simply shifted.
- 10:52From where they were towards. Campaign expenditures election.
- 10:56Irregularities, frauds and recounts.
- 10:59Nowadays we hardly even hear about that at all.
- 11:01We hear about for the president. But, but not much else, right?
- 11:06So did we eliminate the corruption from the Senate
- 11:08elections? Or did.
- 11:09We just change the form. Here's the constitutional trade
- 11:16off before 1913. Imagine a senator voting.
- 11:20Repeatedly for federal programs that stripped authority.
- 11:24Away from his state government, eventually he would have to go
- 11:28home to a state government and answer to that legislature.
- 11:30What the heck are you doing anytime?
- 11:35He would vote for something that didn't or didn't benefit his
- 11:38state. Or or hurt his state.
- 11:40He would have to explain to the people that sent him there, what
- 11:44are you doing after the 17th Amendment?
- 11:47He did not have to answer. To the state legislature, his.
- 11:52Political survival depended on voters campaign.
- 11:55Organizers, donors, interest groups.
- 11:58And political machine parties, now that doesn't establish for
- 12:03certain that direct. Election of the Senators.
- 12:05Was a mistake. It establishes that the.
- 12:08Amendment The 17th Amendment changed the incentive structure
- 12:11and something. Else disappeared as well.
- 12:15State governments lost their institutional representative
- 12:19inside. The federal government no longer
- 12:23does. The state have any?
- 12:24Represented whatsoever. We yeah, we have two senators
- 12:28from. Washington 2 from California, 2
- 12:29from Florida 2. Kentucky 2 from Wyoming.
- 12:32Every other state but those. Senators do not represent.
- 12:36The state. Of Washington or the.
- 12:38State of Florida, they represent the people that elected.
- 12:42Them in those states in the constitutional sense and vision
- 12:47in 1787, we've completely changed what the Senate.
- 12:51Actually represents So who? Represents the state of
- 12:55Washington today. Well, the governor can lobby
- 12:59state attendant. Attorney generals can sue.
- 13:01Boy it is. Ours.
- 13:02Ours has ours. Constantly reminds sending out a
- 13:05press. Release every week.
- 13:06For the 27th. Time we've sued the Trump
- 13:08administration. And of course, Governor Bob.
- 13:12Is is busy? Complaining about Trump all the
- 13:15time. Legislators can pass
- 13:18resolutions. Oh.
- 13:19Boy. Got another another resolution.
- 13:21We have resolved that we don't like, I don't know.
- 13:25The color orange that OK, None of those things have any vote in
- 13:31Congress. Whatsoever.
- 13:33None. It leads to questions though
- 13:37about term. Limits the.
- 13:41Problem that we're having now. Is that we have people who are.
- 13:46Not. Just old.
- 13:49Not, I mean I'm 60, almost 60. Three, if I were to get elected.
- 13:54Senator from the great state of Washington, do I feel like I
- 13:56could do it? Cognitively.
- 13:59I think I could, although I will be honest with you, I find
- 14:02myself almost every month a little bit slower than I used to
- 14:08be, forgetting things that. Used to be easy.
- 14:11It it can't tell you how many times.
- 14:14I got a Rd. Caster with too many buttons on
- 14:15it and sometimes. I forget things yesterday's.
- 14:21Stream. Was a great example.
- 14:22Of that I forgot to plug. In the audio source.
- 14:26And so in the middle of the show.
- 14:28I'm trying to control paste the the.
- 14:30Audio source into the into the video that should have been done
- 14:34before. I could have just.
- 14:35Stopped and done it again, you know.
- 14:37Started over I guess, but little things like.
- 14:39That in your head? Could I be a senator?
- 14:41Probably. Do I want to be?
- 14:43No, although I wouldn't object to the. $174,000 a year, that's
- 14:48there, but the question. Again comes up when with people
- 14:51like Mitch McConnell, Dianne Feinstein, who has of course
- 14:54since passed on, and others, Bernie Sanders, a few others
- 14:59along the way. That you could probably pick out
- 15:01of a crowd. The age issue.
- 15:04Becomes something important, doesn't it?
- 15:06And this has led to this constant cry for term.
- 15:12Limits now the framers did not forget.
- 15:17To include congressional term limits, they already had them,
- 15:21the Articles of Confederation. Actually prohibited delegates
- 15:24from. Serving more than three.
- 15:26Years. In any.
- 15:27Six year period, so half of every six years you could serve.
- 15:32But the Constitution itself, signed this day in 1787,
- 15:36abandoned that mandatory. Rotation.
- 15:39The argument that Madison put forward in Federalist. 53 was
- 15:43that experienced legislatures acquire.
- 15:45Knowledge of complicated public affairs that newly elected
- 15:49representatives simply don't possess.
- 15:52And for what it's worth, I agree with them.
- 15:54Yeah, they they do. They absolutely do.
- 15:59They build relationships, They. Build.
- 16:04Methodologies, but they're also putting down roots.
- 16:08And they're also. Gaining power.
- 16:12There's also a powerful Democratic.
- 16:14Argument against term limits if the people.
- 16:16Of the state. Of Kentucky want to keep
- 16:19electing Mitch McConnell. Why should?
- 16:21The Constitution prohibit them from doing so.
- 16:24Why should the people? Of Wyoming.
- 16:28Be able to say. To the people of Kentucky, you
- 16:30can't have that guy. He's you know, he's too.
- 16:33We don't like him. He's too old.
- 16:34He's been here too long. Stop that.
- 16:36That's really the strongest. Argument against congressional
- 16:39term limits. But it also assumes something
- 16:42very important that elections provide meaningful
- 16:47accountability. Which brings us back to.
- 16:51McConnell and Feinstein in. Particular, there's nothing
- 16:54inherently. Wrong with an 80. 4 year old
- 16:57Senator. But there's nothing inherently.
- 17:00Virtuous about a 45 year old senator either age.
- 17:05Isn't the constitutional problem?
- 17:07Capacity is. If a senator can serve 30 years
- 17:11and remain vigorous, informed and effective.
- 17:15How is that's a benefit to the country?
- 17:17The. Problem arises when the Senator
- 17:20or the congressperson becomes unable to perform substantial
- 17:23portions of the office independently.
- 17:27Somebody has to hold their hand. Feinstein gave us an unusually.
- 17:32Stark. Documented example of that.
- 17:34When she had to be told, just say aye.
- 17:39Now consider that there's a political incentive here as
- 17:41well. A.
- 17:42Senator isn't merely one person representing.
- 17:45A state that senator also. Votes on judges.
- 17:52At every level appellate. Federal bench, Supreme Court.
- 17:58Who also represent us? They vote on committees to
- 18:03advance. Legislation or kill it?
- 18:04They vote for a Majority Leader and they vote on.
- 18:07Legislation, they also. Vote on a potential vote to
- 18:11determine which. Party could control the Senate.
- 18:14Remember, they have to elect. A leader.
- 18:16Same in the. House so.
- 18:18Resignation of a senator has consequences extending beyond.
- 18:24Just the individual. And that creates an
- 18:26uncomfortable incentive for both.
- 18:27Parties. A senator.
- 18:29Who is no. Longer, fully capable of.
- 18:30Performing the. Office duties may.
- 18:33Still possess something of enormous.
- 18:35Value he or. She now might.
- 18:40Possess the ability. Like Dianne Feinstein to.
- 18:43Quote, just vote aye. They still have a vote.
- 18:47Look, we don't have to prove. That anyone's.
- 18:50Private motives for why they keep.
- 18:52McConnell or why they kept Dianne Feinstein there for so
- 18:55long, or some of these Congress people for so long.
- 18:58We don't have to. Prove that their private.
- 18:59Motivation exists to recognize that there's an incentive.
- 19:04To do so, there is also a. Constitutional hole Here Suppose
- 19:10the president becomes incapable of performing the duties of
- 19:13office. The Constitution provides A
- 19:16mechanism through the 25th Amendment to to.
- 19:20To get rid of them or to. Get rid of them is kind of a
- 19:23mean term to you know. Take care of that.
- 19:27But there is no such mechanism, no, no equivalent process of
- 19:31that in the Senate. The Senate can expel a member.
- 19:35With 2/3 votes, but expulsion is a a very rare.
- 19:41Thing and it wasn't designed as an incapacity.
- 19:43Procedure. Mitch is and plus you wouldn't.
- 19:46Get the 2/3 votes anyway, so imagine.
- 19:50If you had a senator today, Mitch McConnell, who cannot.
- 19:53Reliably participate in debates. Cannot independently understand
- 19:57complicated. Legislation.
- 19:59Are you seriously? Telling me that Mitch McConnell
- 20:02actually understands what's in the SAVE Act.
- 20:07What's in? The the stuff on AI requires
- 20:13staff. Assistance to conduct.
- 20:15Basic official duties, but still refuses to resign.
- 20:20What happens, essentially the political system is.
- 20:24Stuck. It just waits.
- 20:26That's a constitutional problem worth discussing regardless.
- 20:29Of which party holds the seat? It's.
- 20:32Not. What the people want.
- 20:37What can we the people? Actually do.
- 20:39About this well, there's several answers and each one has costs
- 20:46and issues. We could.
- 20:50Pass term limits. Now there's a couple ways they
- 20:53could do. That Congress, it's going to.
- 20:55Require a constitutional amendment, which means that.
- 20:58Congress would have to pass it by 2/3, have to be ratified by
- 21:013/4 of the. State which?
- 21:02I don't think would be a problem that that would not be a
- 21:04problem. No way to hell.
- 21:05You're getting through this. Through Congress.
- 21:08Whatever the limit could be, 12 years, 18 years guarantees
- 21:11turnover, but it also. Prevents voters from retaining
- 21:14an experienced senator. That they actually want if you
- 21:18have a good senator. You know a Daniel Webster.
- 21:22Maybe you don't want to get rid of.
- 21:24Him or maybe we set a mandatory retirement age.
- 21:27An effective 82 year old gets removed while an impaired. 62
- 21:32year old. Me gets to remain maybe.
- 21:38There should be. Some incapacitation mechanism,
- 21:41some constitutional procedure analogous in principle, though
- 21:44not necessarily structure, to the 25th Amendment, that
- 21:48immediately raises another. Difficult question.
- 21:50Who? Gets to decide that an elected
- 21:53senator. Is incapable of doing the job.
- 21:57We have the same problem with the with the president.
- 22:01Who gets to who gets to decide that?
- 22:03The rest of the Senate doctors? The governor.
- 22:06Just don't let the people in. Massachusetts decide to decide.
- 22:10Maybe. Even the state legislature.
- 22:11And if it. Was the state legislature, See,
- 22:13you'd have a. You'd have a solution.
- 22:15And how do you prevent that process from becoming a?
- 22:19Partisan weapon. We could repeal or modify the.
- 22:2517th Amendment restore some role.
- 22:27For the state legislatures. And therefore restore an
- 22:29institutional check between state governments and their
- 22:32senators. But that means confronting the
- 22:35same corruption and deadlock. Concerns that helped produce the
- 22:38amendment in the first place. Course, we already have the.
- 22:42Solution which is elections. This is the method.
- 22:45We were given. It's the method the Constitution
- 22:48relies. On But elections only work as
- 22:50accountability mechanisms if voters are willing to hold their
- 22:53own side accountable. And as we already.
- 22:57Know we are not the framers actually tried term limits under
- 23:03the. Articles of.
- 23:03Confederation. They ended up abandoning them
- 23:06when they wrote the Constitution in the.
- 23:08United States, They. Created the Senate representing
- 23:11the state. Governments.
- 23:13The Progressive. Change that system because they
- 23:16believed it had become corrupt and dysfunctional.
- 23:18And in many ways, it happened. But now, more than a century
- 23:23after the 17th Amendment, perhaps the question isn't
- 23:26whether or not Mitch McConnell or Dianne Feinstein.
- 23:29Stayed for too long. The larger question is whether
- 23:32the mechanisms that are supposed to tell a senator when it's time
- 23:34to. Leave the voters are.
- 23:37Actually still functioning. Because if the.
- 23:40Only thing Washington still needs from a senator.
- 23:44Is the ability to say to just say aye, then we have reduced.
- 23:49Representation to something the framers never intended.
- 24:21needs protection from them. This is plausibly live.
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- 24:50September 17th is one of those dates that.
- 24:53Seems to have acquired. An argument with.
- 24:56Itself in the year. 14 of the Common Era Rome was mourning.
- 25:02Augustus now he. Had brought a measure.
- 25:05Of peace after generations of civil.
- 25:07War. The Senate placed him amongst
- 25:11the gods, honoring the man who had given Romans.
- 25:14Stability, but it's. Important to remember.
- 25:17That that stability that. Came with an empire.
- 25:22That Augustus established that replaced a Republic, now the
- 25:28Republic. Had been weakened long.
- 25:30Before Augustus took power. Octavian is the name Hyper.
- 25:33Octavian's his real name. Augustus.
- 25:35Is his deified name. Anyway, you don't care.
- 25:38Civil wars and ambitious generals like Julius Caesar had
- 25:42done. Terrible damage before that
- 25:44Augustus just. Completed the transformation he
- 25:47kept familiar. Offices such as the.
- 25:50Senate. But divide decisive power rested
- 25:54solely with him. Romans could still.
- 25:58See the. Outward forms of their old
- 26:01government, but they were living under a new one, and when he
- 26:06died, that. Power would be passed.
- 26:09To another emperor. Now there's a warning in that
- 26:12story. People exhausted by disorder.
- 26:16May. Welcome a leader who.
- 26:17Promises to end it. They may even be.
- 26:20Grateful for the peace that he brings, but peace purchased by
- 26:24replacing a Republican's power. In one man's hands can long
- 26:31outlive the crisis. That seemed to justify it, which
- 26:36of course. Is the problem that the framers
- 26:37were facing on September 17th, 1787, when they had gathered in
- 26:43Philadelphia and on this day? They had fought a.
- 26:45King They had won their independence, and then they
- 26:48spent. A few years discovering just how
- 26:51hard that was to hold. 13 states together because one of them.
- 26:55Was Rhode Island before they left the.
- 26:58City On September 17th, 1787, they signed the proposed
- 27:02constitution they did not build a throne for George Washington,
- 27:07they built the government in which.
- 27:09Power would be divided. Elections would recur and even
- 27:13the president would be required to answer to the law.
- 27:16They understood that liberty. Could not depend upon the virtue
- 27:19of a single leader. They needed institutions that
- 27:22were capable of restraining. Leaders who lacked virtue
- 27:25altogether the Constitution. Was an extraordinary
- 27:30achievement. It was also incomplete.
- 27:34The delegates protected. A union in which slavery
- 27:36remained lawful. Some of them, many of them
- 27:39opposed. Slavery's slavery.
- 27:41But others were. Dependent on it, and the
- 27:45compromise that allowed a new government to begin left
- 27:48millions of people outside. The Liberty.
- 27:51That the government was. Supposed to secure 75 years
- 27:55later, September. 17th came again.
- 27:59In the fields around the place. Called Antietam Creek,
- 28:02Sharpsburg, MD Union and Confederate.
- 28:06Soldiers fought from. Dawn until night.
- 28:09They struggled through a cornfield.
- 28:11Along a stone, a sunken Rd. across a stone bridge.
- 28:15And on that day, listen. Carefully.
- 28:18Almost 23. Thousand men were killed.
- 28:22Wounded or missing, September 17th, 1862.
- 28:28Is still to this day. The bloodiest single day in
- 28:32American history. It's a figure that's so large.
- 28:38It can, kind of. Become easy to say 23,000.
- 28:42But each one of those was a person who had a life beyond
- 28:46that Maryland battlefield. Some went home from there with
- 28:50wounds they would carry. For the rest of their lives.
- 28:52Others never went home at all. And we speak today, rightly, of
- 28:57the liberties. Protected by the Constitution at
- 28:59Antietam Creek. We see those liberties.
- 29:02Come with a cost. The Republic created in
- 29:05Philadelphia was being torn. Apart by a.
- 29:07Rebellion undertaken to preserve.
- 29:09Slavery. Union soldiers fought to.
- 29:12Keep that Republic alive. Many died.
- 29:15Before it had fully committed itself.
- 29:17To making freedom a. Purpose of the war it's an
- 29:21important. Thing to remember, Antietam.
- 29:24Stopped. Robert E Lee's invasion of
- 29:26Maryland and gave Abraham Lincoln the opening he had been
- 29:29waiting for. 5. Days later, on September 22nd,
- 29:33he will. Issue the preliminary.
- 29:34Emancipation Proclamation If the states in rebellion don't return
- 29:38to the union, enslaved people would be.
- 29:40Declared free. On January 1st. 1863 the.
- 29:45Proclamation did not free everyone at.
- 29:47Once its reach was. Limited and freedom.
- 29:49Still had to be secured wherever Confederate power.
- 29:52Still endured, and it wouldn't happen.
- 29:54For many years, enslaved people had already been seeking their
- 29:58own liberty through escape and resistance.
- 30:00But Lincoln's decision changed the declared.
- 30:03Purpose of the Union war effort preserving.
- 30:06The nation and ending slavery. We're now bound together.
- 30:12That is the weight. Of September 17th in Rome,
- 30:16senators declared divine the man whose.
- 30:18Empire had replaced the Republic in Philadelphia, delegates tried
- 30:23to place. Every ruler beneath the law and
- 30:25at Antietam, Americans. Suffered the deadliest.
- 30:28Day in our entire. History.
- 30:30Defending a Republic that. Still.
- 30:33Had to confront the. Greatest denial of its.
- 30:35Own principles we should remember the men who signed the
- 30:39constitution for. What they built and tell the
- 30:41truth about what they. Left unresolved, and we do, we
- 30:45should remember the soldiers at Antietam as individuals rather
- 30:48than let the enormity. Of the losses disappear.
- 30:51Into a number and we should remember the enslaved folk whose
- 30:55freedom was at stake and whose own actions help bring
- 30:59emancipation about. Liberty does not preserve
- 31:03itself. Rome offers one account of how a
- 31:06Republic can be lost. Philadelphia records the effort.
- 31:09To protect one and antietam shows Americans.
- 31:13What we paid to keep ours. Alive and to extend.
- 31:17That promise? Happy.
- 31:21Constitution Day, my friends. Take the time right now.
- 31:24Tell the people that matter in your life you love them very
- 31:27much. You'd miss them if they weren't
- 31:28there. So don't pass up those
- 31:29opportunities you don't want to. Have that regret we'll.
- 31:34See you next time. Right here, possibly live dot.
- 31:37Com the Dave Bowman show hopefully you'll be able to join
- 31:40us in the future and I think the live stream went well enough
- 31:43that we'll keep doing that more in the future have.
- 31:47A great day everybody. Enjoy Constitution Day.
- 31:49Read it again. Remind yourself.
- 31:52Of the sacrifice. That was made.
- 31:54For us.