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NFL Trades, Rays Stay In, NFC North with Kevin Clark · Not So Fast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst.
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Speaker 2: Where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest
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Speaker 2: sports stories of the day. Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst.
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Speaker 2: Not So Fast, my friends.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Pabst.
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Speaker 3: And Paul, we might have a baseball series on our hands.
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Speaker 4: We may have a series. We're a bit sports tired.
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Speaker 4: If you're on the East Coast, you stayed up for
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Speaker 4: 12 innings of baseball. It's a good kind of sports tired.
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Speaker 4: World Series sports tired is the best. Coming up, we're
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Speaker 4: going to talk about NFL trades that happened and might
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Speaker 4: be happening with our guy Kevin Clark of This Is Football,
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Speaker 4: Omaha Productions and ESPN. He'll chop it up with us.
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Speaker 3: Awesome. Okay, so obviously the Rays come back. Paul, here's
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Speaker 3: one set that made me slightly nervous. There have been
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Speaker 3: four teams to have an extra inning comeback when they're
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Speaker 3: down in a playoff series. All four... The Rays being
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Speaker 3: the fourth. All three previous ones went on to win
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Speaker 3: the World Series.
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Speaker 4: But you're a this-is-over guy.
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Speaker 3: I am a hardcore this-is-over. This only happened once where
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Speaker 3: teams come back from 3-0. That's the Red Sox against
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Speaker 3: the Yankees. And yesterday I said over, over, over. But
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Speaker 3: I have to admit, just the slightest bit of doubt
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Speaker 3: crept in because of the way the Brewers did it.
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Speaker 4: Right, because you're so close. That's the thing. If this
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Speaker 4: game were a blowout and the Rays won, it wouldn't
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Speaker 4: be so big of a deal. Top of the 12.
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Speaker 4: Pratt hits the home run. Shortstop. Four for five, unbelievable game.
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Speaker 4: You're like, that's it. This kid's going to be the
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Speaker 4: David Freeze of his team. It's going to be his moment.
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Speaker 4: He hits it at the top of the 12th. They
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Speaker 4: close him out on the bottom. Everybody goes home. You
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Speaker 4: start celebrating. The error that opened up the bottom of
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Speaker 4: the 12th to me is the thing that's like, oh,
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Speaker 4: it wasn't a great hit or a great play. It
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Speaker 4: was an error on a really easy grounder to start
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Speaker 4: the inning. And then you start thinking to yourself, maybe
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Speaker 4: it's not meant to be. And I think that's where
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Speaker 4: if you're more of a Brewers fan than a player,
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Speaker 4: you're like, we had it. I was planning the parade.
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Speaker 4: I was taking the day off. And now it's like
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Speaker 4: I got to pause for a day. Odds are you're
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Speaker 4: still fine, but it just feels bad.
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Speaker 3: So if for some reason the Rays did come back,
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Speaker 3: you're saying 25 years from now we'll look back at
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Speaker 3: that error and that'll be part of the 30 for
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Speaker 3: 30 documentary.
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Speaker 4: Well, you have to pin it on something. There's a
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Speaker 4: long way to go. The Brewers will probably have a
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Speaker 4: lead at some point tonight. And even if that goes longer,
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Speaker 4: they'll probably have a lead. You know, plays like that
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Speaker 4: Bill Buckner play, that was game six. The Bartman play,
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Speaker 4: which is actually the Alex Gonzalez play with the Cubs
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Speaker 4: in 03, that was also game six. It feels too
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Speaker 4: early in a series to put all blame on one thing.
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Speaker 4: But last night felt like this close to touching the ring.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think the one reason that you might say
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Speaker 3: there's even a slice vulnerability is because they've been using
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Speaker 3: the bullpen so much in Milwaukee. And usually it works.
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Speaker 3: Last night, they failed to shut them down in the 12th.
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Speaker 3: So I'm curious, you know, Mizorowski is going to start
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Speaker 3: game five. Do you think that they've seen maybe there's
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Speaker 3: a little more vulnerability as these arms? The guys in
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Speaker 3: the Milwaukee bullpen can't pitch like this forever. At some point,
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Speaker 3: they're going to wear down at least somewhat.
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Speaker 4: Except for Ashby, the reliever from Milwaukee. He's spotless.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he has been spotless, but relievers aren't used
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Speaker 3: to throwing this many innings.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they couldn't let him go that much further.
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Speaker 4: Let's get to the topic last night because there was
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Speaker 4: some Monday morning quarterbacking. When you're sitting there watching, when
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Speaker 4: I'm sitting there watching, the broadcast didn't make a big
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Speaker 4: deal of it when they started the 12th. You bring
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Speaker 4: in your all-star pitcher, your flamethrower, Jacob Mizorowski. I didn't
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Speaker 4: think a lot about it before the decision was made.
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Speaker 4: I don't think on the broadcast they made a big
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Speaker 4: deal of it, but a lot of people are jabbing
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Speaker 4: Pat Murphy, the manager, saying he should have brought in Mizorowski.
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Speaker 4: Do you remember what you thought before the inning started?
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Speaker 3: Oh, listen, I'm going to protect Mizorowski at all costs, guys.
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't even consider it. I followed him more this morning.
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Speaker 3: There were a lot of Eduardo Perez of ESPN was strong.
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Speaker 3: They should have brought him in to close it out.
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Speaker 3: But I'll tell you, you know, there's no guarantee. And
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Speaker 3: Dan Patrick said this. There's no guarantee that a starter
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Speaker 3: like Mizorowski is really comfortable coming out of the pen
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Speaker 3: and will be at his best.
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Speaker 4: Look, you bring him in. You're Pat Murphy. You bring
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Speaker 4: in Mizorowski. He strikes out the side. You look like
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Speaker 4: a hero.
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Speaker 3: But how do you know he's going to strike out
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Speaker 3: the side? He's never done that.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 4: And also, this is probably one of those games where
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Speaker 4: Miz went into the game thinking, I know I'm available tonight.
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Speaker 4: Of course, I'm always available to World Series. But this
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Speaker 4: is not so deep. This isn't Madison Baumgartner in the
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Speaker 4: sixth and seventh game. I think they did the right thing.
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Speaker 4: They didn't panic and go to Mizorowski. They trusted the
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Speaker 4: guys who didn't come through. But it was an error
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Speaker 4: that caused it not to come through. Not the pitcher, necessarily.
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Speaker 4: Of course, they pitched there not too well afterwards.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, there might be a bigger picture thing here.
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Speaker 3: Mizorowski throwing that fast, his arm, you have to protect
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Speaker 3: it at all costs. I mean, say it was Steven Strasburg.
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Speaker 3: Nobody would have said bring him in. So I know
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Speaker 3: that Mizorowski eventually will sign somewhere else, but the Brewers
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Speaker 3: are not going to screw up their plan with this guy. Watch,
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Speaker 3: they're only going to use him five innings tonight at most.
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Speaker 4: All right, before we move on to football, a couple things.
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Speaker 4: We said that Rays fans shouldn't sell your tickets last night.
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Speaker 4: Imagine if you're a Rays fan who gave up their
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Speaker 4: tickets for last night's game. If this ends up being...
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Speaker 4: the run, which is unlikely.
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Speaker 3: I probably would have left in the seventh inning, to
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Speaker 3: be honest. I mean, you've got to beat traffic.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, good night's sleep. You want to get a good
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Speaker 4: night's sleep.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 4: Okay, before we move on to football, you know, Not
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Speaker 4: So Fast is catching on. You, Not So Fast, we
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Speaker 4: watch daily. We love you. But how about Kevin Burkhart,
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Speaker 4: the host of the World Series on Fox last night,
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Speaker 4: giving us a direct shout-out, clearly.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the Brewers were poised to win the World Series,
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Speaker 1: and the Rays said, Not So Fast. How exciting is this, boy?
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Speaker 2: Hey, how exciting is this?
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Speaker 1: How happy are we? It's you.
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Speaker 4: Are you Very thoughtful of KB. Nice of him working
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Speaker 4: us into the broadcast.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he should have said not so fast
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Speaker 3: with Pabst and Perloff.
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Speaker 4: Understandable. There's a time crunch there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, exactly. If they had more time, he would
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Speaker 3: have spelled it out. And given the hour, 12 noon Eastern,
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Speaker 3: NBC Sports Now and Peacock.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I didn't get the rest of the cut.
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Speaker 4: I'm sure Big Poppy mentioned us specifically by name. Also, MLB,
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Speaker 4: love you, MLB. Twitter, how about this one? Check this out, Perl. MLB,
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Speaker 4: not so fast with Paxton Perloff. The Rays force game five.
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Speaker 3: Should we put periods in between the words like they're doing?
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Speaker 4: I think we should have done that six or seven
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Speaker 4: weeks ago, and we didn't.
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Speaker 3: Okay. Well, this is fun. Clearly. It's catching on.
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Speaker 4: It's like we're at the World Series.
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Speaker 3: No, it's interesting. It's been sort of a slow groundswell
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Speaker 3: for the national media to pick up saying not so fast,
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Speaker 3: but now they are.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Tom Brady, if you want to do it during your
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Speaker 4: broadcast this weekend, feel free.
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Speaker 3: Wait, before we totally move on.
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Speaker 1: Uh-oh.
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Speaker 3: What do you think? Is it over tonight? Game five?
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Speaker 4: I'm saving my prediction, but no. You can't do that now.
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Speaker 4: If you're the Rays, you're somewhat emboldened. You're playing a
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Speaker 4: little bit with house money where still nobody thinks you're
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Speaker 4: going to win this and say like, Let's just go
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Speaker 4: for it. You can use any pitcher in any situation.
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Speaker 3: I think you're caught up in the moment. This is
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Speaker 3: still done, done, done. It is done.
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Speaker 4: You're triple done. You're triple done.
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Speaker 3: And in fact, I'm proud of myself because I could
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Speaker 3: have gotten nervous after last night. No, I'm going to
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Speaker 3: rely on 150 years of baseball history. It doesn't happen
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Speaker 3: to happen once. It's not happening again.
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Speaker 4: See, now you're weirdly making me want to root for
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Speaker 4: the race just so you don't look.
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm not saying they're going to close it out tonight.
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Speaker 3: I mean, maybe they'll close it out in Milwaukee, which
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Speaker 3: would be great. I'm just saying, don't all of a
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Speaker 3: sudden act like this is a tight series. It's still 3-1.
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Speaker 4: Okay, we're a week away from the NFL trade deadline.
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Speaker 4: Yesterday was quite saucy with the afternoon. It was mostly
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Speaker 4: the Colts. The Colts sent DeForest Buckner out west to 49ers,
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Speaker 4: a place he's been before. And maybe the bigger one, literally.
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Speaker 4: They're both big guys. Quentin Nelson, the first-team Hall of
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Speaker 4: Famer for the Colts, got shipped out to the Seattle Seahawks.
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Speaker 4: We talked a little bit about the Seahawks' angle of this.
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Speaker 4: Let's start with the 49ers. How much do you like
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Speaker 4: this move with the chronic injuries they always have?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, they didn't get to Michael Penix
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Speaker 3: at all last week, so they needed some help on
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Speaker 3: the defensive line. Defensive line coming into this season was
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Speaker 3: one sort of vulnerability of this team. Bosa is coming back,
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Speaker 3: but they need a little more interior help. So this
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Speaker 3: is not just a good move. This is a great move.
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Speaker 3: He was awesome as a Niner.
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Speaker 4: DeForest Buckner will be in the rotation this weekend. He's
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Speaker 4: played there. He's played in that system. Bosa is... supposedly
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Speaker 4: coming back in Week 9, but even that.
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Speaker 3: Is iffy this week. Actually, the two are very different players.
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Speaker 3: Buckner can stop the run, which is going to be
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Speaker 3: a big issue this year because I think teams are
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Speaker 3: abandoning the pass because of the way defenses are playing everyone.
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Speaker 3: Everyone's going to try and run on you, and say
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Speaker 3: you get the Bears in the playoffs, DeForest Buckner would
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Speaker 3: be huge.
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Speaker 4: Okay, Quentin Nelson, the Seahawks, we broke that here on
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Speaker 4: Not So Fast yesterday. I like it even more than
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Speaker 4: I did yesterday. The more I think about it, Quentin
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Speaker 4: Nelson's been around so long, I thought he was like 33%
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Speaker 4: He's 30. He's at the back half of his prime.
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Speaker 4: But this guy, the past two years, he was second
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Speaker 4: team all pro. He's a sure thing. You completely added
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Speaker 4: to your offensive line, pass blocking, run blocking, and everything
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Speaker 4: with one move. And this trade, the compensation vacillates whether
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Speaker 4: he stays there or not. I love that word, vacillate.
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Speaker 4: But you paid very little to get this guy.
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Speaker 3: Basically nothing.
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Speaker 4: Basically nothing.
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Speaker 3: Third and fifth round pick. I mean, it is a
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Speaker 3: little weird. The guy who's doing the trades now for
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Speaker 3: the Colts, Ed Dodds, longtime Seattle executive. Seems like he
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Speaker 3: was doing a favor to his old team. Actually, if
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Speaker 3: you look at this, I'm very interested. Why did no
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Speaker 3: one offer a second for Quentin Nelson? Why did another
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Speaker 3: contender not jump in there?
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Speaker 4: I always wonder if something like this is about timing.
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Speaker 4: Did Seattle get in early? Did they give a package
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Speaker 4: right away and say, we need to know now? And
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Speaker 4: did the Colts seem like, you know, I want to
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Speaker 4: talk about the Colts for a second. It seems like
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Speaker 4: it's a little bit of amateur hour with the Colts
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Speaker 4: these days. You have new ownership people, new GM. You've
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Speaker 4: fired people. I think they're trying to satisfy the fans,
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Speaker 4: and I think they may have overreacted.
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Speaker 3: Satisfy the fans by trading Quinn Nelson? It's the opposite.
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Speaker 4: Right. You're taking away a legend, and they're probably going
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Speaker 4: to do it with Jonathan Taylor. I'm going to ask
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Speaker 4: you about that in a second. But it does feel
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Speaker 4: like amateur hour with the management right now, the Colts.
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Speaker 3: Now, listen, they floated Quentin Nelson to the league, I'm sure.
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Speaker 3: At least I hope so. It does say something interesting
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Speaker 3: about this upcoming draft. I heard a couple people said,
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Speaker 3: this draft is so amazing coming up. It's the deepest
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Speaker 3: draft in years that no one's giving up any picks.
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Speaker 4: And let's keep this up here for a second because
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Speaker 4: last year when they traded for Sauce Gardner, they did
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Speaker 4: that based off the hot start that they had. And
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Speaker 4: they overpaid for Sauce Gardner, a good defensive back. And
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Speaker 4: now that's coming back to bite them because of this
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Speaker 4: fire sale. they're going to lose a bunch of games.
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Speaker 4: And that Jets first round pick is going to get
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Speaker 4: higher and higher.
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Speaker 6: Right.
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Speaker 3: So why get rid of Quentin Nelson? Getting rid of
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Speaker 3: DeForest Buckner makes sense. He was complaining a lot in
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Speaker 3: the locker room. But Quentin Nelson makes no sense. And
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Speaker 3: why they couldn't get more is still a mystery to me.
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Speaker 3: I don't know. He's still the highest graded guard by
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Speaker 3: pro football focus. But I think other teams saw on
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Speaker 3: tape that maybe he's taking a big step back. Okay, Pearl.
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Speaker 4: Everyone thinks that Jonathan Taylor, the all-star running at the
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Speaker 4: All running back, is on the block. If he's not
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Speaker 4: on the block... What are you doing? If he is
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Speaker 4: on the block, what are you doing if you're the Colts?
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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. I'm sure he is on the
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Speaker 3: block if the right offer comes in. But I don't
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Speaker 3: think they're going to get a godfather offer for a
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Speaker 3: couple reasons. One, he's expensive already. He's signed through the
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Speaker 3: next couple years at around $ 15 million to $ 17 million.
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Speaker 3: That's a lot for a running back, considering Kenneth Walker
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Speaker 3: just left Seattle for $ 15 million. The other thing is, again,
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Speaker 3: getting back, this draft is supposed to be so amazing.
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Speaker 3: A first is out of the question. Possibly a second,
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Speaker 3: but more likely a second and 28th. And if you're
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Speaker 3: the Colts, again, I don't know why you're tanking. What's
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Speaker 3: the point? You don't have a first-round pick. So all logic,
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Speaker 3: you would think, of course you're going to trade Jonathan Taylor.
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Speaker 3: I would be willing to make a small bet to
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Speaker 3: keep him because, A, they're not going to get a
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Speaker 3: good offer for him. Why would anyone give up a
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Speaker 3: first-round pick for a guy that you're going to have
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Speaker 3: to pay in a year anyway?
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Speaker 4: Okay, let's each pick a team that should pursue, maybe
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Speaker 4: overpay a little bit for Jonathan Taylor. I'll go first.
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Speaker 4: I'm going to throw out there the New York Giants.
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Speaker 4: Cam Scadaboo is a nice running back. I don't think
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Speaker 4: he has the wherewithal to keep himself healthy for 17
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Speaker 4: games and five seasons. Now, I know it's at the
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Speaker 4: back half of your career, but you find yourself, the Giants,
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Speaker 4: in a position where you're better than you expected to be.
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Speaker 4: You may have found your quarterback situation, and if I
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Speaker 4: could steal with a second-round pick, which is now a mid-second,
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Speaker 4: I'm doing that.
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Speaker 3: I don't think the Giants are rebuilding, though. I don't
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Speaker 3: think they give up the draft capital. Honestly, do you think,
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Speaker 3: does Jonathan Taylor make them a contender?
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Speaker 4: In that division, I think it seals the deal for
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Speaker 4: them to win. No, but this is a year where
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Speaker 4: the Rams are a little shaky, the 49ers are perpetually shaky,
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Speaker 4: and you've got to like the Seahawks for what they did.
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Speaker 3: Who would you make a move with? By the way,
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Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor from New Jersey, not far from the Netherlands.
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Speaker 3: I would say Minnesota is the obvious pick, but again,
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Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to do it. I don't
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Speaker 3: think they want to pay Jonathan Taylor. I don't think
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Speaker 3: they want to give up the draft capital.
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Speaker 4: And does Minnesota think that they're a contender?
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah. See, Minnesota's closer. Yeah, I think they think
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Speaker 3: they're a contender. They're 6-0, and they have Kevin O'Connell
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Speaker 3: and Brian Flores, and if they had any offense whatsoever,
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Speaker 3: they would probably be the number one seed in the NFC.
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Speaker 3: Any offense. But still, I don't think it happens. I think...
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Speaker 3: Unfortunately for Colts fans, you're going to have Jonathan Taylor
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Speaker 3: and you're still not going to win games. What a mess.
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Speaker 4: What a mess.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be a disaster. All right, coming
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Speaker 3: up next, I have a warm take on Anthony Edwards.
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Speaker 3: I feel terrible for that guy. And the hottest trend
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Speaker 3: in the trade deadline. Watch out, Paul. I have an
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Speaker 3: unexpected position that is going to be talked about a
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Speaker 3: lot next week. That's next. Not so fast. And you.
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Speaker 4: Very thoughtful of Kevin Burkhart to mention us by name-ish.
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Speaker 3: That was cool.
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Speaker 4: Back on Not So Fast with Paxton Perloff. It's the
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Speaker 4: Midday Pick-Me-Up. Your guy, Jason Tatum. You love this guy.
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Speaker 4: You loved him out of the draft. You said the
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Speaker 4: Sixers have to take this guy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he should be a 76er. Everybody knows that. But now,
12:53
Speaker 3: as a 76er fan, I don't like him. I'm all
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Speaker 3: about Jalen Brown. And you have to choose teams. It's
12:59
Speaker 3: like Twilight. It's like Jacob and Edward.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just thinking it was like Jacob and
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Speaker 4: Edward from Twilight, whoever those people are. But that's some
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Speaker 4: fantastic defense. Leaving him that open is really gutsy.
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Speaker 3: Well, listen, if you're the Nets, you are all about
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Speaker 3: that draft position. I think they finally get their pick
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Speaker 3: back next year. Actually, I'm not even sure about that.
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Speaker 3: It's getting a little chilly out there. Let's bring some Hot,
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Speaker 3: warm takes, Paul.
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Speaker 4: Here we go, Pearl. I'll start off. I'm going to
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Speaker 4: go back to the Indianapolis Colts and the fire sale
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Speaker 4: or whatever they're doing there. And they're not just bad,
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Speaker 4: the Colts, right now. They've given their fans reason to
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Speaker 4: be hopeless for the rest of the season and possibly
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Speaker 4: next season. They're not even getting draft capital that fixes
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Speaker 4: the problems from last year. So the last seven years
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Speaker 4: since Andrew Luck left this franchise, surprisingly, have been shaky
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Speaker 4: at best. They've had some decent seasons, like 8-9, things
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Speaker 4: like that. But you're on your third head coach since
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Speaker 4: Luck left. Quarterback's Jacoby Brissett. Rivers, Matt Ryan, Gardner Minshew,
14:11
Speaker 4: rinse and repeat. We didn't even have room on the
14:14
Speaker 4: graphic to put everybody. The really big one, though, the
14:17
Speaker 4: worst move was taking quarterback Anthony Richardson with the fourth
14:20
Speaker 4: pick of the draft. I've mentioned this before. You're taking
14:22
Speaker 4: a guy who's a project at best, who is a
14:25
Speaker 4: really interesting guy. That would be a great third or
14:27
Speaker 4: fourth round pick. They decided to take him fourth overall.
14:30
Speaker 4: Some of the players they passed on with Anthony Richardson, B.
14:32
Speaker 4: John Robinson, Jalen Carter, Jameer Gibbs, and Jackson Smith and Jibba.
14:37
Speaker 4: Those are guys who are probably going to the Hall
14:39
Speaker 4: of Fame someday, all those guys. Look at that list.
14:41
Speaker 4: They could have taken any one of those. Devin Witherspoon,
14:43
Speaker 4: one pick later, and they would have been fine. What
14:45
Speaker 4: I think is going on here with the Colts is
14:47
Speaker 4: you have new-ish ownership. Now, it's the kids of the
14:51
Speaker 4: old owner. Jim Irsay, for whatever you want to say
14:53
Speaker 4: about him, seemed to be kind of in control of
14:55
Speaker 4: this franchise and didn't make rash decisions. I think the
14:58
Speaker 4: new Colts management, the new GM, the new people in charge,
15:01
Speaker 4: they're acquiescing to the fans or trying to make moves
15:03
Speaker 4: for the sake of moves. I go back to Sauce
15:05
Speaker 4: Gardner last year. They overpaid for him. Daniel Jones, it's okay,
15:09
Speaker 4: but it's time to move on. And now getting rid
15:11
Speaker 4: of Quentin Nelson and possibly getting rid of Jonathan Taylor,
15:14
Speaker 4: this isn't baseball. You're not rehabbing your whole franchise. You're
15:17
Speaker 4: not trying to get picks for your minor league system.
15:20
Speaker 4: You don't do that in football. You don't decimate your team.
15:22
Speaker 4: The Miami Dolphins kind of did it last year, and
15:25
Speaker 4: will it work out for them? Maybe. But it just
15:27
Speaker 4: makes your fan base think that we're not competing for anything.
15:29
Speaker 4: It's okay to do that in baseball because you have
15:31
Speaker 4: that three-year plan. It's not cool in football, and it
15:33
Speaker 4: feels like amateur hour in Indy.
15:35
Speaker 3: Oh, you know, I'm a process guy. I don't mind
15:39
Speaker 3: getting rid of all your veterans, but you have to
15:40
Speaker 3: have your first-round pick.
15:41
Speaker 4: That's the problem.
15:42
Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, I would take Anthony Richardson still. I mean,
15:45
Speaker 3: the guy is 6'5, throws a beautiful pass.
15:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, not a quarterback. I would love him in another position.
15:49
Speaker 3: You were saying that. By the way, if he went
15:51
Speaker 3: to a different team, I think things would have worked
15:52
Speaker 3: out much differently for Anthony Richardson. He's got a lot
15:55
Speaker 3: of talent. Yeah.
15:56
Speaker 4: Let's take that bet.
15:58
Speaker 3: I heard Kevin O'Connell speak on him once and said
16:00
Speaker 3: he's one of the most misunderstood. He was going to
16:03
Speaker 3: go top 10 anyway, but that's besides the point.
16:05
Speaker 4: Well, he should be a 49er. Go to the 49ers,
16:07
Speaker 4: sit for a year, and see if they could work
16:08
Speaker 4: on him.
16:09
Speaker 3: Exactly. I mean, listen, I think Indy is sort of
16:12
Speaker 3: snakebitten since the luck trade, so I don't put it
16:14
Speaker 3: all on Anthony Richardson. Okay, let's go, speaking of Minnesota,
16:18
Speaker 3: to the Timberwolves. Anthony Edwards is going to be out
16:20
Speaker 3: for two months with knee surgery. This is bumming me out.
16:24
Speaker 3: Talk about an NBA player I love. It's Anthony Edwards. Spectacular.
16:28
Speaker 3: Can fly. He's a competitor. Keeps the T-Wolves in series
16:31
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Paul, I'm a little nervous of where
16:33
Speaker 3: this is headed because last year, during the season, he
16:38
Speaker 3: missed games with a right knee injury. Then in the playoffs,
16:41
Speaker 3: his left knee got hurt, and you could tell he
16:43
Speaker 3: was not himself in the playoffs. This is the third
16:45
Speaker 3: year he's had knee problems, 22, 24, last year, and
16:49
Speaker 3: now he's out for two months. Now, he tried to
16:51
Speaker 3: spend all offseason off his knee. He thought he could
16:54
Speaker 3: fix it without surgery. Obviously, he was wrong. The way
16:57
Speaker 3: he was playing in four games, he was great, scoring
16:59
Speaker 3: a ton of points. But he was third in the
17:01
Speaker 3: league with over 11 threes a game. Now, he hit
17:04
Speaker 3: a high percentage. But do you want Anthony Edwards shooting
17:07
Speaker 3: 11 threes a game? The reason he was doing that
17:09
Speaker 3: is he can't drive without his knee. I don't think
17:12
Speaker 3: we're ever, at least for a long time, going to
17:14
Speaker 3: get full effect to Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards, when he's
17:18
Speaker 3: coming down hills, one of the scariest players in the NBA.
17:20
Speaker 3: But I am so worried that he's going to be like,
17:22
Speaker 3: and I hate to say these names, Brandon Roy, Derek Rose,
17:26
Speaker 3: and sort of Grant Hill, guys whose potential was never
17:30
Speaker 3: met because of knee problems.
17:31
Speaker 4: Well, those names are all going through my head as
17:33
Speaker 4: you're doing your take. My thing is, I think I
17:35
Speaker 4: like what the Minnesota Timberwolves are doing. If they're being
17:38
Speaker 4: preventative or proactive, if you get this done and you
17:42
Speaker 4: rest him and realize that we're looking for this guy
17:44
Speaker 4: for the next seven years, I worry that he's going
17:47
Speaker 4: to be a Vince Carter type, where at some point
17:48
Speaker 4: in his career he has to change his game from
17:50
Speaker 4: inside to outside. He's already doing it based on the numbers.
17:53
Speaker 4: The Derrick Rose one was catastrophic. You took a career
17:56
Speaker 4: that was going to be first ballot Hall of Famer,
17:58
Speaker 4: and it went wonky. This guy attacks for a living,
18:02
Speaker 4: and he's as entertaining as it gets. I hope that
18:04
Speaker 4: this move is a real cleanup, a true cleanup, where
18:08
Speaker 4: now he... Eases back in and makes sure he's completely 100%.
18:11
Speaker 4: Because if you're not, don't worry about this season.
18:12
Speaker 3: Well, they completely screwed it up, though. Why did they
18:14
Speaker 3: not do it in June? I mean, obviously, it's the
18:17
Speaker 3: same exact knee problem we had last year.
18:20
Speaker 4: I do wonder if they listened to the player. And
18:21
Speaker 4: he said, let me try to play through this. And
18:23
Speaker 4: they listened to the player over the medical.
18:25
Speaker 3: Well, it looks like hopefully they're doing the right thing
18:27
Speaker 3: now because we could be robbed of a great NBA career.
18:29
Speaker 3: And do you agree with this? He's a player who
18:32
Speaker 3: has to win a title to get to his potential.
18:34
Speaker 3: I think he's at that level of player.
18:36
Speaker 4: It's early, but yeah, he's one of those guys where
18:38
Speaker 4: he's as entertaining as... But, you know, John Morant was
18:40
Speaker 4: in that situation. John Morant's career is barely hanging on.
18:42
Speaker 4: He's doing okay in Portland now. Zion Williamson's career went sideways.
18:46
Speaker 4: I would say Anthony Richardson is still in pretty darn
18:48
Speaker 4: good shape compared to guys like that.
18:50
Speaker 3: He's a little older than you think. He's 25. How
18:52
Speaker 3: many years? He's six years in. I mean, I'm serious.
18:55
Speaker 3: I think he's got... Because if he's not the athletic
18:57
Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards, I would say by 30, a player like that,
19:00
Speaker 3: it's way too late.
19:01
Speaker 4: All right, let's go back to baseball last night. So,
19:03
Speaker 4: Cooper Pratt, the Brewers shortstop, 22 years old. He was
19:07
Speaker 4: this close to sports immortality. Okay, in the World Series
19:10
Speaker 4: clinching game, he was 4 for 5, including the home run.
19:13
Speaker 4: Top of the.
19:13
Speaker 3: Bingo!
19:14
Speaker 4: Top of the 12th to give his team the lead.
19:17
Speaker 4: You see Brewers fans there. They could feel the trophy.
19:19
Speaker 4: They could feel the moment. And Cooper Pratt, he would
19:21
Speaker 4: not have won World Series MVP... That's fine. You would
19:24
Speaker 4: have remembered this swing, and you'd remember it forever. This
19:26
Speaker 4: would have been the first thing shown when this World
19:29
Speaker 4: Series got played, if they somehow pulled us off. He
19:31
Speaker 4: was a half an inning away from being mentioned in
19:34
Speaker 4: every World Series going forth forever, like David Fries, like
19:37
Speaker 4: those guys who had that moment, who win it for you.
19:40
Speaker 4: He was half an inning away from being Wisconsin royalty.
19:43
Speaker 4: He still could be. If they win this tonight or tomorrow,
19:45
Speaker 4: he's going to be on scholarship. He'll never have to
19:47
Speaker 4: pay for a spotted cow for the rest of his life.
19:50
Speaker 4: But sports immortality, it's fleeting.
19:52
Speaker 3: It goes away.
19:53
Speaker 4: You could have it in your hands. It could go away.
19:55
Speaker 4: If Malcolm Butler doesn't make that interception, Malcolm Butler is
19:58
Speaker 4: this bounce-around defensive back that we don't know much about. Instead,
20:01
Speaker 4: he's going to be played forever during Super Bowl broadcast.
20:04
Speaker 4: So he's likely to be fine. Cooper Pratt, good player,
20:08
Speaker 4: great night last night. He'll still get his flowers if
20:10
Speaker 4: they win this series, but sports immortality was this close.
20:12
Speaker 3: Okay, but there's a level here because it wasn't a walk-off. No.
20:16
Speaker 3: So even if it had won the game, it wouldn't
20:19
Speaker 3: be Joe Carter. It wouldn't be Giants win the pennant.
20:22
Speaker 3: It wouldn't be Mazerowski. I believe those were all walk-offs.
20:25
Speaker 4: Yes, and it would have been like a B-plus level
20:27
Speaker 4: sports immortality. Like a David Freeze where when you do
20:31
Speaker 4: these stats, who was the last guy to do this?
20:32
Speaker 4: Like David Freeze's name came up on the Dan Patrick
20:35
Speaker 4: show today, on this show today. And that's the thing.
20:37
Speaker 4: Once you get it, they can't take it away from you.
20:40
Speaker 3: Right, right. But it wouldn't be Joe Carter.
20:41
Speaker 4: Not Joe Carter.
20:42
Speaker 3: You need to walk it off. And the series needs
20:44
Speaker 3: to be closer because it's been a bit of a
20:45
Speaker 3: slaughter until that moment. Okay. For my second warm take,
20:49
Speaker 3: let's talk about kickers, Paul. Oh, of course. It's not
20:52
Speaker 3: so fast. We love special teams. Now, the Chiefs brought
20:55
Speaker 3: in Justin Tucker and signed him to the practice squad today.
20:57
Speaker 3: Of course, Justin Tucker, probable Hall of Famer, one of
21:00
Speaker 3: the most accurate kickers in NFL history. A lot of
21:02
Speaker 3: off-the-field plays. Trouble. It turns out he's not a great guy.
21:05
Speaker 3: Of course, Kansas City has built their team around ignoring
21:08
Speaker 3: character forever, so they do not care. I mean, that's
21:11
Speaker 3: just the way Casey's proud of it.
21:13
Speaker 4: Call it like you see it.
21:14
Speaker 3: Now, I think Kansas City is ahead of the curve
21:16
Speaker 3: here because Harrison Bucker is struggling. Speaking of character. I
21:22
Speaker 3: am so sick of really good teams being hamstrung by
21:24
Speaker 3: their kicker. And you know who the one team that
21:27
Speaker 3: is bothering me the most? I think they could be
21:29
Speaker 3: a real factor in the NFC, but they are such
21:32
Speaker 3: a mess at kicker.
21:33
Speaker 1: Packers?
21:33
Speaker 3: Packers. Trace Mack, here's a stat. NFL kickers have made
21:37
Speaker 3: 151 out of 154 field goal attempts of 35 or
21:38
Speaker 3: fewer yards a season. There have been three misses. Two
21:44
Speaker 3: of them were Trey Smack last week. You're a very,
21:48
Speaker 3: very talented team. You cannot mess around with Trey Smack. Now,
21:51
Speaker 3: we know the Rams have had injuries. They cut Mivas,
21:54
Speaker 3: and now they're under Brandon McManus, who did not try
21:56
Speaker 3: a field goal in his one game. But I think
21:59
Speaker 3: the Chiefs are getting ahead of the curve. I bet
22:00
Speaker 3: you other teams are going to look at, now that
22:02
Speaker 3: he's on the practice squad, are going to want to
22:04
Speaker 3: bring in Justin Tucker because you cannot screw around it.
22:07
Speaker 3: There's way too much parity at the top.
22:08
Speaker 4: And kickers make a little bit more money than they
22:10
Speaker 4: did a generation ago. Like a team like the LA Rams,
22:13
Speaker 4: they didn't spend at the kicker position. They said, we'll
22:15
Speaker 4: figure it out. We spend at every other position. We're
22:17
Speaker 4: not spinning at the kicker, and it's bitten them a
22:20
Speaker 4: little bit. It could bite them in the playoffs.
22:21
Speaker 3: You know the funny thing about kickers, too? Brandon Aubrey
22:23
Speaker 3: is still the best, probably, Dallas Cowboys. He's not great
22:26
Speaker 3: at the kickoff, which is now another issue with kickers
22:29
Speaker 3: because that's a very impactful play. It costs them a game.
22:32
Speaker 3: So I think that you want to invest in kicker
22:35
Speaker 3: right now. If I'm the Packers, I would have cut
22:36
Speaker 3: Trey Smack on Monday. I know they drafted him, and
22:38
Speaker 3: that's rare to draft a kicker, but he's got the yips.
22:42
Speaker 3: He might have all the talent in the world.
22:43
Speaker 4: And in a division this close, you can't afford it.
22:45
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, yeah. You can't afford it.
22:46
Speaker 4: All right, let's go to college football weekend. We've got
22:48
Speaker 4: a big one coming up, but let's go. College football
22:51
Speaker 4: play of the year, a not-so-fast, Perloff. Let's do it.
22:54
Speaker 4: Auburn wide receiver, you remember this guy? You loved his name.
22:58
Speaker 4: Chaz Nimrod, his TD catch the other day. Beautiful catch
23:01
Speaker 4: in the shadows. That's silly over the top of the
23:04
Speaker 4: helmet of the defender. Chaz Nimrod, will he hold, serve
23:07
Speaker 4: for another week? Not so sure because, let's check this
23:10
Speaker 4: one out. Lenora Sellers, the great quarterback for South Carolina.
23:14
Speaker 4: This run is silly. This looks like I'm on a
23:17
Speaker 4: TV show. Over the top, planting the ball on the
23:21
Speaker 4: end zone like a boss.
23:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, all game long, he ran over Tennessee like they
23:25
Speaker 3: weren't even there.
23:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, that run doesn't even make sense. I'm going to
23:28
Speaker 4: go slightly Lenora Sellers. Are you with me?
23:31
Speaker 3: Ah, begrudgingly, because I love the name Chaz Nimrod.
23:33
Speaker 1: Right.
23:34
Speaker 4: We can mention it a couple more times before we go.
23:36
Speaker 3: And you say great quarterback, occasionally great quarterback, sometimes mind-boggling
23:40
Speaker 3: quarterback of South Carolina.
23:42
Speaker 4: Lenora Sellers was hot and has cooled and might be
23:44
Speaker 4: warm again.
23:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, because of that one game. I hope he doesn't
23:47
Speaker 3: cool again this weekend.
23:48
Speaker 1: All right.
23:48
Speaker 4: Coming up next, we have our guy, Kevin Clark of
23:51
Speaker 4: This Is Football, Omaha Productions, and ESPN. He'll join us
23:54
Speaker 4: to talk about who's been traded and who might be traded.
23:57
Speaker 4: Stick around. Not so fast.
24:00
Speaker 3: Chaz, poor Chaz.
24:01
Speaker 4: Chester A.
24:02
Speaker 5: Nimrod.
24:03
Speaker 3: All right, so we're going with Lenores.
24:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Lenores, that plant move was like.
24:07
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, he looked like an adult playing with kids
24:09
Speaker 3: in the backyard. Welcome back to Not So Fast. Andrew Perloff,
24:14
Speaker 3: Paul Papps. Busy week here, obviously, with the World Series,
24:17
Speaker 3: but we also have to break down the NFL trade
24:18
Speaker 3: deadline some more, Paul. And who better to do that
24:21
Speaker 3: than ESPN's host of This Is Football and someone who's
24:25
Speaker 3: been on my flight to the Super Bowl every year
24:27
Speaker 3: for 10 years, of course, talking about Kevin Clark. Now, Kevin,
24:31
Speaker 3: do you want to start with the NFL trade deadline
24:33
Speaker 3: or brag about the Miami Hurricanes?
24:36
Speaker 1: I can do both. I'll start with the Miami Hurricanes.
24:40
Speaker 1: And by the way, when I say both, I mean
24:41
Speaker 1: it's because I can weave the Miami Hurricanes into any conversation.
24:44
Speaker 1: I've been doing that in every show for the past month.
24:48
Speaker 1: It was on Dominique Foxworth's show, and they asked me
24:51
Speaker 1: about something with the NFL, and somehow I brought it
24:54
Speaker 1: back to Miami. So I can do both, trust me.
24:58
Speaker 1: Let's start with Miami. Got the Notre Dame game on
25:01
Speaker 1: NBC in a couple weeks that I think is going
25:04
Speaker 1: to end up being– the game of the season. I
25:06
Speaker 1: thought it was going to be number one versus number two.
25:08
Speaker 1: Notre Dame did not do their part. Uh, they would
25:11
Speaker 1: be if, if both teams had won out and Notre
25:13
Speaker 1: Dame had beaten BYU. Uh, but it, it, it's just
25:15
Speaker 1: really cool to see. And, and what's funny is that
25:19
Speaker 1: somebody had said to me recently, like there's this huge
25:22
Speaker 1: gap in people who know what, what Miami is. And
25:25
Speaker 1: it's people between about, Ooh, I'd say like if you're
25:31
Speaker 1: under 40, uh, It's it's been a while. If you're
25:34
Speaker 1: under 35, it's been a while. But if you're over 50,
25:37
Speaker 1: you get it right. And like we're going through the
25:39
Speaker 1: whole thing with with with whether or not Miami can
25:42
Speaker 1: go independent. Somebody in the in sports media, because the
25:45
Speaker 1: president said last week they might. Somebody in sports media
25:48
Speaker 1: said one thing Miami is going for it. All the
25:50
Speaker 1: decision makers are 55-year-olds who are like, oh, my God,
25:54
Speaker 1: I remember Miami. If it was a bunch of Zoomers,
25:57
Speaker 1: we'd be screwed.
25:58
Speaker 4: And, Kevin, as you mentioned, our buddy Jarrett Payton, who
26:00
Speaker 4: was on that 2001 team, he texted me pictures. He
26:02
Speaker 4: was down for the reunion weekend of that 01 team.
26:05
Speaker 4: And they showed that shot this weekend during the Miami
26:07
Speaker 4: game on the sidelines. Like, I recognize that guy. I
26:09
Speaker 4: recognize that guy. There's Ed Reed. There's tons of celebrity players.
26:13
Speaker 4: But it does feel like the one criticism or the
26:15
Speaker 4: knock on Miami right now is similar to what Notre
26:18
Speaker 4: Dame did. Have they beat anybody heavy? But that's not
26:21
Speaker 4: their fault. They're beating everyone and looking good doing it.
26:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I continue to say, first of all, some
26:29
Speaker 1: of it, I know every team is different. Some of
26:31
Speaker 1: can Miami play with the big boys was answered in
26:33
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year when they beat Ohio State and
26:34
Speaker 1: Ole Miss and Texas A & M. and could have
26:37
Speaker 1: very easily beaten Indiana if a couple of plays had
26:39
Speaker 1: gone a different way. But Miami's trying to join the
26:45
Speaker 1: SEC or Big Ten, and Congress is trying to step
26:49
Speaker 1: in to prevent it. So I think that that's an
26:54
Speaker 1: ACC problem. It stinks that Clemson and Florida State aren't
26:57
Speaker 1: what they once were. Wake Forest is actually pretty good.
26:59
Speaker 1: I think that they're going to show people by January
27:02
Speaker 1: that they're a good ball club. But yeah, it's a
27:05
Speaker 1: wait and see. And it's funny, when I have draft
27:08
Speaker 1: people on the show, we talk about it. it's, it's
27:12
Speaker 1: one game, two game seasons now for some of these teams,
27:14
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, same way. Um, you know, basically three game season,
27:18
Speaker 1: if you count SMU was the third one. And so
27:20
Speaker 1: it's not just about the AP poll or the, or
27:23
Speaker 1: the playoffs, it's about NFL scouts watching these, these guys
27:26
Speaker 1: and saying, Hey, can Darian Mensah, uh, do it against
27:30
Speaker 1: Notre Dame? Uh, or can he do it, you know, against, uh,
27:33
Speaker 1: you know, Texas in the playoff, or do we have
27:35
Speaker 1: to watch him against, uh, you know, North Carolina, who,
27:39
Speaker 1: you know, all respect to Bill Belichick, not a lot
27:41
Speaker 1: of horses there.
27:42
Speaker 3: All right, Kevin, let's turn to the NFL. The Indianapolis
27:45
Speaker 3: Colts traded Quentin Nelson and DeForest Buckner yesterday. Can you
27:49
Speaker 3: explain their strategy with no first-round pick next year?
27:53
Speaker 4: Yeah.
27:55
Speaker 1: Can I explain their strategy? No. Well, it's funny because
28:00
Speaker 1: their strategy has been job preservation for six years, and...
28:06
Speaker 1: Now the GM's job is gone. And so I think
28:08
Speaker 1: they're just trying to get draft capital and hit the
28:10
Speaker 1: reset button. I think that Quentin Nelson, obviously, one of
28:14
Speaker 1: the best players in his position. I thought it was
28:15
Speaker 1: an awesome– it was a coup for the Seahawks to
28:18
Speaker 1: get a guy like that. And I think a lot
28:20
Speaker 1: of times we– read too much into strategies, right? Like
28:25
Speaker 1: people are like, why are the Seahawks doing this? Why
28:26
Speaker 1: were the bears involved? Well, because there was an all
28:28
Speaker 1: pro player available for a mid round pick and people
28:31
Speaker 1: are going to call. That's how that goes. That's a
28:33
Speaker 1: good GMs do it. But from the Colt side, I
28:35
Speaker 1: don't know. Um, is Jonathan Taylor up for grabs? Um,
28:39
Speaker 1: are some of these other guys, is everybody up for grabs?
28:41
Speaker 1: Are they trying, what are they trying to do? They
28:43
Speaker 1: don't have a first round pick there. They, you know,
28:45
Speaker 1: if they, if they tank, that only helps the jets. Um, Um,
28:48
Speaker 1: and God bless him. The jets don't get a lot
28:49
Speaker 1: of help. So this is their one break. Uh, so I, I, I,
28:53
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they're just trying to, um,
28:55
Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of times teams want
28:59
Speaker 1: to take all their salary cap medicine as quickly as
29:01
Speaker 1: possible so they can start the rebuild. You see this, uh,
29:04
Speaker 1: Miami did it a few years ago. They're doing it again. Actually. Um,
29:07
Speaker 1: the bills did that when Brandon Bean took over is
29:10
Speaker 1: you take these huge dead cap charges and you say, Hey, listen,
29:13
Speaker 1: by the time of Quentin Nelson, uh, you know, can
29:15
Speaker 1: help us again in a big spot. He's going to
29:18
Speaker 1: be too old or too expensive. Let's move on. So
29:20
Speaker 1: it's more of that, I would say, is greasing the
29:24
Speaker 1: wheels for a rebuild, which starts with draft capital and
29:27
Speaker 1: cap space.
29:28
Speaker 4: You know, Kevin, when you look at this, the 49ers
29:30
Speaker 4: making a play for Buckner, the Seahawks, do you find
29:33
Speaker 4: yourself week to week vacillating who you want to pick
29:36
Speaker 4: of the NFC West? Because the other day I felt
29:39
Speaker 4: great about the Rams. I'm like, okay, they cleaned up
29:40
Speaker 4: their mess. But then Quentin Nelson, I'm like, oh, the
29:42
Speaker 4: Seahawks are so smart. I cannot from day to day choose.
29:47
Speaker 1: It's impossible. It's not the Cardinals. Thank you, Cardinals, for
29:49
Speaker 1: making it very easy and not making it four wide
29:51
Speaker 1: or three wide. But I'm with you. And I also
29:55
Speaker 1: think that the emergence of the 49ers this year changed
29:59
Speaker 1: the entire calculus of the division. Because I thought it
30:01
Speaker 1: was going to be Seahawks-Rams, Seahawks-Rams, Seahawks-Rams, ping-ponging back and forth.
30:05
Speaker 1: The Rams, all of a sudden, are incomplete. They're sloppy.
30:09
Speaker 1: The Seahawks, a couple issues. Some of them related to
30:11
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker, which was that their short yardage game just
30:14
Speaker 1: isn't what it was. Sam Darnold is turning the ball over,
30:17
Speaker 1: but he was turning the ball over last year until
30:18
Speaker 1: he locked in. So that's just kind of who he is.
30:23
Speaker 1: You know, JSN is... the highest share of yards in
30:28
Speaker 1: history or something, but he was number five in history
30:31
Speaker 1: last year. So it's a lot of the same kind
30:34
Speaker 1: of check engine lights, and I think that the Seahawks
30:37
Speaker 1: will figure that out. The Rams, to me, are more
30:39
Speaker 1: worrying because it's health. What's funny is the Niners are injured,
30:45
Speaker 1: but they seem to be able to overcome it. What's
30:48
Speaker 1: funny is everybody talked about the Niners' age coming into
30:52
Speaker 1: this season, and very few people talked about the Rams'
30:54
Speaker 1: age coming into this season. And if you look at it,
30:56
Speaker 1: the difference wasn't that significant. In fact, one of the
31:02
Speaker 1: reasons people talked less about the Rams' age was that
31:04
Speaker 1: they had an infusion of young talent, guys like Braden Fisk,
31:07
Speaker 1: guys like Puka Nakua. Obviously, he's banged up as well.
31:10
Speaker 1: But every day, you're right, it's a week-to-week division. And
31:15
Speaker 1: I think all three teams will end up making the playoffs,
31:18
Speaker 1: but I'm really intrigued to see which of those teams
31:21
Speaker 1: can actually make a Super Bowl run because... They each
31:23
Speaker 1: have their own questions, and those questions seem to change
31:26
Speaker 1: every week.
31:27
Speaker 3: Kevin, I think you picked the Eagles this year. Am
31:30
Speaker 3: I correct?
31:31
Speaker 2: I did.
31:32
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm an Eagles fan. If I give you a
31:35
Speaker 3: mulligan right now out of the NFC, who would you pick?
31:38
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. I love Tanner McKee. Run it back, baby. Yeah,
31:45
Speaker 1: I believed in the roster talent of the Eagles, Andrew,
31:48
Speaker 1: and it's not there. Yeah.
31:50
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, injuries. You're good with injuries. Yeah.
31:54
Speaker 1: It's fine. And the reason I picked him before I
31:57
Speaker 1: do my mulligan was that I kept going on training camp.
32:00
Speaker 1: I went to the Eagles first. And there were so
32:02
Speaker 1: many guys, you know this, who I'm like, oh, this
32:07
Speaker 1: guy right here that nobody talks about in the Eagles,
32:09
Speaker 1: if everybody's healthy, would be the third best player on
32:12
Speaker 1: some of these contenders. Guys know Jordan Mailata, Quinion Mitchell,
32:15
Speaker 1: Zach Bond. Guys who never come up nationally would be
32:18
Speaker 1: the second best player on the Buffalo bills or, you know,
32:22
Speaker 1: some years since 90 bangles, Baltimore Ravens, that, that, that
32:24
Speaker 1: kind of thing.
32:25
Speaker 3: Right.
32:25
Speaker 1: So that's why I picked them. I just thought they
32:26
Speaker 1: were so deep. Well, the depth that got tested, it's
32:28
Speaker 1: gone Mulligan, you know, I'm starting to change my mind
32:34
Speaker 1: on the Chicago bears. Um, I, I, I didn't think
32:38
Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks they could big 12 this and, um,
32:46
Speaker 1: What I mean by that, if you don't watch college ball,
32:48
Speaker 1: is win 52-30. And they can. They can. And the
32:55
Speaker 1: bills are a little bit like this, too. Just get
32:57
Speaker 1: a couple turnovers, catch your picks, give the ball back
33:00
Speaker 1: to the offense, and let's go. And they were able
33:02
Speaker 1: to do that last year. They were historically good last year,
33:06
Speaker 1: the Bears were, at catching picks without getting pressure, which
33:10
Speaker 1: is rare. They're not on that pace this year, but
33:12
Speaker 1: I think that they can get enough turnovers, get off
33:15
Speaker 1: the field, game changers, whatever, and then make the Super Bowl.
33:21
Speaker 1: I would not be shocked by that at all. And
33:23
Speaker 1: I also think that kind of like what we're seeing with,
33:26
Speaker 1: and he gets a lot of press, but we didn't
33:29
Speaker 1: clock that Mike McDonald was the type of guy who
33:33
Speaker 1: could win a Super Bowl until it was too late.
33:36
Speaker 1: And I think with Ben Johnson, we're seeing it earlier,
33:39
Speaker 1: but a lot of times, And this sounds so stupid,
33:43
Speaker 1: but it helps me. A lot of times I'll look
33:45
Speaker 1: at all the rosters, look at all the coaching staff,
33:47
Speaker 1: look at the quarterbacks, and I'll just say, what's the
33:50
Speaker 1: team where I go in five years, of course they
33:53
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl, or of course they won the NFC.
33:55
Speaker 1: And it's like you're looking at it and you're going, hmm,
33:57
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams, a wide open league when you consider–
34:03
Speaker 1: The NFC East has become the NFC South. The NFC
34:05
Speaker 1: South is still the NFC South. Packers have these holes
34:07
Speaker 1: in the offensive line. The Lions have the secondary problems.
34:10
Speaker 1: The Vikings don't have a hole at quarterback right now.
34:13
Speaker 1: And the NFC West is still sorting itself out. So
34:16
Speaker 1: if I'm going, who in 2031 am I looking back
34:20
Speaker 1: on and saying, yeah, that sounds right. Right now it's
34:22
Speaker 1: the Bears.
34:23
Speaker 4: Okay, Kev, before we get you out of here, we
34:25
Speaker 4: love your show. This is football, and we want to
34:27
Speaker 4: talk training camps all the time with you.
34:30
Speaker 3: We have.
34:30
Speaker 4: Perloff is saying we've got to do a little side bet.
34:32
Speaker 4: You're a Miami guy. I don't know if you know.
34:34
Speaker 4: Southside Chicago, Irish Catholic by default. I'm a Notre Dame guy.
34:38
Speaker 4: What's the bet, Perloff? Are we setting something up here?
34:40
Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Yeah. Well, you're both foodies. I don't know.
34:45
Speaker 3: What's a.
34:45
Speaker 4: I got one.
34:46
Speaker 1: Well, no. It's the easiest thing in the world. It's
34:48
Speaker 1: the easiest thing in the world. So, Paul Pabst, you
34:50
Speaker 1: come to my town to go to Walter's Hot Dogs.
34:53
Speaker 4: Oh, I love Walter's Hot Dogs. Great mustard.
34:55
Speaker 1: And so... we're going to have lunch at Walter's Hot Dogs.
34:58
Speaker 4: And if you come, if I win, you come here
35:00
Speaker 4: and we go to Super Dewey and it's on me.
35:02
Speaker 3: Yeah. I get to go either way, right?
35:04
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. You come either way. You come either way.
35:06
Speaker 3: Everyone wins.
35:07
Speaker 1: So somebody's, somebody's driving and then picking up the tab
35:11
Speaker 1: in the other person's town.
35:12
Speaker 4: That's a bet.
35:12
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. By the way, Calvin Johnson,
35:14
Speaker 3: this is football this week. I just saw the clips.
35:16
Speaker 3: He looks awesome.
35:17
Speaker 6: He is one of the coolest guys ever.
35:20
Speaker 1: He's great. He was great. Super relaxed, and I was
35:26
Speaker 1: super pleased with how that went. So are we doing
35:29
Speaker 1: straight up with Notre Dame, by the way? They're favored,
35:31
Speaker 1: but I'm happy to do straight up.
35:33
Speaker 4: Let's do straight up. We're friends.
35:34
Speaker 3: Oh, you've got to do straight up. What are you
35:35
Speaker 3: talking about here?
35:36
Speaker 1: We've got to do straight up. No, no, of course
35:37
Speaker 1: it's straight up. It's not like it's a 10-point spread.
35:40
Speaker 3: I'm good.
35:41
Speaker 4: I won't blame the refs. I won't blame the clock operator.
35:43
Speaker 4: I won't blame anybody.
35:45
Speaker 1: You're the only Irish fan not blaming Notre Dame. the
35:48
Speaker 1: refs and the clock these days.
35:49
Speaker 3: All right, Kevin, thanks for the time. Good luck on
35:52
Speaker 3: November 7th. We'll be calling you. Later, bud. That's Kevin Clark,
35:56
Speaker 3: of course, from ESPN. This is football. Paul, I don't know.
35:59
Speaker 3: How do you feel? I mean, he just offered you points.
36:01
Speaker 3: That's almost embarrassing for a Notre Dame fan.
36:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have a bet. I like it. It's a
36:04
Speaker 4: fun little bet. Either way, Perloff, you found a way
36:06
Speaker 4: to eat hot dogs on the house. Good job by you.
36:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm a fan of both places. All right,
36:10
Speaker 3: coming up next, we're going to break down Charles Barkley's
36:13
Speaker 3: amazing interview on the Dan Patrick Show. So much to
36:15
Speaker 3: dive into. Not so fast.
36:17
Speaker 4: So Walters, they do split dogs, and they grill them.
36:20
Speaker 4: Great mustard. Super Dabrini has lots of options.
36:23
Speaker 1: Okay.
36:23
Speaker 4: Either way you win.
36:24
Speaker 3: All right. Whatever you say, I'm in.
36:29
Speaker 2: Why is this not working between Bam and Giannis?
36:34
Speaker 5: Because basically, they got four guys out there just standing
36:37
Speaker 5: to watch Giannis go one on four, one on five
36:40
Speaker 5: the whole time. Like, Giannis is a great player, but
36:45
Speaker 5: I'm not sure it would be a lot of fun
36:47
Speaker 5: just to stand out there and watch him go and
36:49
Speaker 5: get his numbers. And there's no ball movement.
36:52
Speaker 1: There's no body movement.
36:54
Speaker 5: Now, it worked that one year when they had Drew
36:57
Speaker 5: Holiday and Chris Middleton. But let's be honest, that's the
37:00
Speaker 5: only year it's actually worked. Bama just standing out there
37:03
Speaker 5: picking his nose. That can't be any fun for him.
37:08
Speaker 5: And then other guys, it's hard for them to get
37:10
Speaker 5: in the rhythm because they don't know when they're going
37:12
Speaker 5: to get the ball.
37:15
Speaker 4: Back on Not So Fast with Pabst and Perloff, this
37:17
Speaker 4: is a clip joint, and that is the lean, mean
37:18
Speaker 4: Charles Barkley talking about the Heat's slow start.
37:21
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised the Heat aren't good. I feel like
37:23
Speaker 3: this was an ease into retirement move by Giannis. If
37:26
Speaker 3: he wanted to win a title, he could not have
37:27
Speaker 3: possibly said, that is the roster that I'm going to
37:30
Speaker 3: do it with.
37:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see him trusting the Heat as a
37:32
Speaker 4: franchise overall, and Bam Adebayo is at the back half
37:35
Speaker 4: of his prime. You have those two nice things, but
37:37
Speaker 4: then the rest of the roster, there's not a lot
37:39
Speaker 4: of help.
37:39
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, listen, LeBron goes to Philadelphia with three
37:42
Speaker 3: or four All-Stars. And for Giannis, Miami has one All-Star
37:46
Speaker 3: who's a bit duplicative in skill set. So Bam isn't
37:49
Speaker 3: doing anything there. I am not surprised at all by
37:52
Speaker 3: the slow start.
37:52
Speaker 4: All right, here's a little more of Charles Barkley. Now,
37:55
Speaker 4: he and Michael Jordan, everyone knows they haven't gotten along
37:57
Speaker 4: well the past generation, how long that's been. But supposedly,
38:01
Speaker 4: Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan are going to play golf
38:03
Speaker 4: again very, very soon.
38:06
Speaker 2: Are you playing golf with Michael Jordan yet? Not yet.
38:10
Speaker 1: We haven't gotten together.
38:11
Speaker 5: We're going to get together. He's been busy. He was
38:14
Speaker 5: out of the country all summer, and he's finishing up
38:17
Speaker 5: the NASCAR thing, but I'm looking forward to it. I'm
38:20
Speaker 5: fine-tuning my game right now, Dan.
38:22
Speaker 2: Are you going down to his home course? Yes. How
38:27
Speaker 2: much money will be wagered on that?
38:31
Speaker 5: I don't like playing more than $ 1, 000 a hole, to
38:34
Speaker 5: be honest with you.
38:35
Speaker 1: I get a little nervous because the worst you can
38:37
Speaker 1: lose is 18.
38:38
Speaker 5: But you're only probably going to lose $ 5, 000 or $ 6, 000
38:40
Speaker 5: when you get your strokes, and that's not a lot
38:43
Speaker 5: of money.
38:45
Speaker 4: I really hope this happens. If you watch those old
38:47
Speaker 4: Dream Team videos, Michael and Chuck were like this, and
38:50
Speaker 4: then it went away for a while. Charles' criticism when
38:52
Speaker 4: he was running the Hornets. As a producer, I would
38:56
Speaker 4: give out a check for whatever they wanted. Remember that thing,
38:58
Speaker 4: the match?
38:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
39:00
Speaker 4: If I could... I'm speaking to you, networks out there.
39:03
Speaker 4: I'm speaking to you, Charles Barkley and his production company
39:05
Speaker 4: and Michael Jordan. Blank checks. I want mic'd up, 18 holes,
39:09
Speaker 4: Charles Barkley, Michael Jordan. Sponsors will line up to do this.
39:14
Speaker 4: TV networks will line up to broadcast this. Everybody would
39:17
Speaker 4: watch this event. Get Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan. Put
39:21
Speaker 4: some other people with them if you want or don't.
39:22
Speaker 3: Whatever.
39:23
Speaker 4: Get those guys mic'd up and do a TV show
39:24
Speaker 4: off this golf.
39:25
Speaker 3: Has Jordan ever done any of these? I know Steph's
39:27
Speaker 3: done them, Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, dot, dot, dot. Has
39:30
Speaker 3: he ever been in a match?
39:31
Speaker 4: Jordan doesn't do anything. I mean, this is going to
39:33
Speaker 4: be impossible.
39:34
Speaker 3: Well, he did a little NBC.
39:35
Speaker 4: A little bit of NBC, but somehow figure out a
39:39
Speaker 4: charity angle, get Charles Barkley to step on the gas,
39:41
Speaker 4: but this has to be.
39:42
Speaker 3: A TV show. Well, it's funny, too, because Charles has
39:43
Speaker 3: had a bit of a golf renaissance, right? Yeah. So
39:46
Speaker 3: he's confident enough that he's playing well. I don't want
39:48
Speaker 3: to bring back the yips for Charles. What did you
39:50
Speaker 3: think of $ 1, 000 a hole? That's nothing for those guys.
39:53
Speaker 4: For Michael especially, $ 1, 000 a hole, he's not bending over
39:56
Speaker 4: to pick up.
39:56
Speaker 6: $ 1, 000.
39:56
Speaker 3: I have another question about Charles Barkley, who is amazing,
39:59
Speaker 3: as always, on the Dan Patrick Show.
40:01
Speaker 4: So.
40:03
Speaker 3: Todd did an impersonation of Charles to Charles, which brought
40:06
Speaker 3: up the Frank Caliendo impersonation. And Charles told the story
40:10
Speaker 3: of Frank Caliendo basically impersonating Matt and Matt calling him
40:14
Speaker 3: and asking him to be part of his lawsuit. So
40:16
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden we get Frank Caliendo on
40:18
Speaker 3: The Dan Patrick Show. How did it happen, Paul?
40:19
Speaker 4: It's classic Dan Patrick Show karma. Caliendo emailed me during
40:24
Speaker 4: the show 10 minutes before Barkley joined us, and he
40:26
Speaker 4: was asking about Todd and the whole thing with pivoting
40:28
Speaker 4: in Game 5. And once I realized Frank's got his
40:31
Speaker 4: ears on, is watching and listening to the show, and
40:33
Speaker 4: he's a regular listener and he's a great guy, I
40:35
Speaker 4: told Todd, I'm like, call Frank now. He's ready to
40:37
Speaker 4: go because I emailed Frank. He goes, yeah, I'm working out,
40:39
Speaker 4: but I could jump on with Barclay. And it happened
40:41
Speaker 4: in a matter of seconds. So it was a good
40:42
Speaker 4: job by Todd, a good job by everybody.
40:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was really fun. What a great overall interview.
40:46
Speaker 3: All right, Paul, let's go to the NFL play of
40:49
Speaker 3: the week. Now, we did college earlier. The NFL is
40:52
Speaker 3: a little trickier because we have Josh Allen right now
40:56
Speaker 3: at the top of the heap with his incredible backward
40:59
Speaker 3: shuttle pass. Let's see. Do we have a video of
41:02
Speaker 3: the Josh Allen?
41:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, the little push-push pass there that he does. This
41:07
Speaker 4: is an all-timer.
41:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is going to go on Josh Allen's all-time
41:11
Speaker 3: highlight reel.
41:12
Speaker 4: He made like eight guys miss and then found the
41:14
Speaker 4: open man with no problem.
41:15
Speaker 3: Okay, so this week we have some competition coming out
41:19
Speaker 3: of a losing effort. Ramondre Stevenson of the Patriots against
41:24
Speaker 3: the Bears on Thursday Night Football. No time left in
41:27
Speaker 3: the half. Where are the tacklers?
41:28
Speaker 4: Okay, now this should be the worst play of the
41:31
Speaker 4: NFL season. A whole different category. It looked like the
41:33
Speaker 4: Bears defenders were allergic to Ramondre Stevenson.
41:35
Speaker 3: Yeah.
41:36
Speaker 4: Or like Like he was a thing of bees and
41:37
Speaker 4: they're running away from him.
41:38
Speaker 3: Right, and where, I don't understand, number 30 comes in
41:41
Speaker 3: from off the left side of the screen. What was
41:44
Speaker 3: he doing the entire time? That was crazy.
41:47
Speaker 4: I can't give it to Ramondre, no offense.
41:48
Speaker 3: Because they lost.
41:49
Speaker 4: Because they lost, but more so that he didn't do
41:51
Speaker 4: a ton. They just were so inept in the defensive end.
41:54
Speaker 4: So it's Josh Allen for another week.
41:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I have a feeling Josh Allen might stay
41:57
Speaker 3: there for a while.
41:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, he sure could. All right, and coming up this weekend, oh,
42:00
Speaker 4: this is going to be saucy. Sunday night is a
42:02
Speaker 4: statement night in D.C. as the Eagles and Commanders collide.
42:05
Speaker 4: This is last call. Pivotal NFC East showdown with Division
42:09
Speaker 4: still up for grabs. Sunday Night Football, NBC, and Peacock.
42:12
Speaker 4: These two teams, one of them is going home and
42:15
Speaker 4: done done.
42:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, this is going to be a great game.
42:18
Speaker 3: I don't know about done done. We do done done
42:20
Speaker 3: every Tuesday here.
42:22
Speaker 4: These two teams, one of them has a little bit
42:24
Speaker 4: of life. The other one's going home.
42:25
Speaker 3: All right, we'll see. Must watch.
42:26
Speaker 4: All right, coming up next, constructive criticism. And, oh, this
42:29
Speaker 4: is great, questions from the back room. Tune in next
42:32
Speaker 4: for that. Paps and Perloff, stick around. Not so fast.
42:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Ramondre Stevenson, that was a great play.
42:39
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was just running and realized, hey, no one
42:41
Speaker 4: wants to tackle me. I'll just keep running.
42:43
Speaker 3: I know. The Bears had lost that game.
42:45
Speaker 4: That would have been a worse play this season.
42:48
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Not So Fast, Andrew Perloff, Paul Paps.
42:51
Speaker 3: All right, Paul, it's one of your favorite times of
42:53
Speaker 3: the week.
42:53
Speaker 4: Questions from the back room.
42:55
Speaker 3: Let's go.
42:56
Speaker 4: Our boy Danny Gardella, here we go.
42:58
Speaker 3: All right, Danny G, hit us up. What do you got?
43:01
Speaker 6: Yeah, we got a couple of real think pieces. Thinker pieces?
43:04
Speaker 6: Think pieces?
43:04
Speaker 3: I don't know.
43:05
Speaker 6: So I've been going easy on you guys. So today
43:07
Speaker 6: we're holding no punches back. So baseball postseason, we've been
43:11
Speaker 6: seeing a lot of great action. If you were to
43:14
Speaker 6: pick a walk-up song, which one would you be going with?
43:18
Speaker 6: And I have a story at the end of this one.
43:20
Speaker 4: All right, who would like to go first? Andrew, do
43:21
Speaker 4: you have one or do you want me to go first?
43:22
Speaker 3: Well, I always used to joke on the Dan Patrick
43:24
Speaker 3: Show that it would be Christopher Cross' Sailing just to
43:26
Speaker 3: get everybody off balance. Yeah.
43:29
Speaker 4: Really soft, not intimidating whatsoever, and then you just park one.
43:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually played Enter Sandman for my daughter the
43:34
Speaker 3: other day. It explained how intimidating it was. If that
43:37
Speaker 3: hadn't already been taken, that would have been my song
43:39
Speaker 3: because it's amazing. I don't have one as cool as that,
43:42
Speaker 3: and I probably don't merit Enter Sandman.
43:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I had power to go deep all around
43:47
Speaker 4: the ballpark, I would go Working Man by Rush. And
43:49
Speaker 4: I probably hit 75 homers a year.
43:51
Speaker 6: Yeah, so a quick story. When I was 19, I
43:53
Speaker 6: interned for a summer college baseball team. I got one
43:56
Speaker 6: at bat. I wasn't on the team, but they gave
43:58
Speaker 6: me an at bat. I went with Rocky. You know,
44:01
Speaker 6: it kind of pumps up the crowd a little bit.
44:03
Speaker 6: I struck out on six pitches.
44:05
Speaker 3: Which Rocky?
44:06
Speaker 4: One, two, three, four, five? Which theme song from Rocky?
44:09
Speaker 6: The most popular one. I'm showing my lack of knowledge.
44:11
Speaker 4: Eye of the Tiger? What are we doing here?
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Speaker 6: It was very last minute, beside the point.
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Speaker 3: I think he means like... There you go.
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Speaker 4: Rocky up the thing.
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Speaker 3: No offense, Dan, but you at bat does not merit
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Speaker 3: the Rocky theme.
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Speaker 4: You could lay down a bunt with the.
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Speaker 3: Best of them.
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Speaker 6: I thought my frame would probably give that away enough,
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Speaker 6: but in case people couldn't tell, they went with the
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Speaker 6: song with that, too. All right, let's move gears. We're
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Speaker 6: going to the NBA now. Season just started. If you
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Speaker 6: could put yourself in a game, I'll give you 20 minutes.
44:41
Speaker 6: What is your stat line? Give me a rough prediction.
44:44
Speaker 4: Oh, well, Angie, you play basketball.
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Speaker 3: You go first. Okay, I'm getting three points. I'm going
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Speaker 3: to take four three-pointers because they're obviously going to leave
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Speaker 3: me wide open. No one's going to cover me. I'm
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Speaker 3: just going to be standing there, and I hit about 25%
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Speaker 3: of my three-pointers. We can do it out in the
44:59
Speaker 3: field house right now. I can hit an NBA three,
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Speaker 3: so I get three points. I'm going nowhere near the paint.
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Speaker 3: I don't need Wemby throwing the ball 50 yards out
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Speaker 3: of my hand.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to have no stats whatsoever. I'm going
45:09
Speaker 4: to set a lot of picks.
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Speaker 3: You're not going to set a pick against an NBA player.
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Speaker 3: I'll try to. You'd be in the emergency room if
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Speaker 3: you set one pick on... an NBA-sized player.
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Speaker 4: I may take a charge. If it's Chet Holmgren, I'll
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Speaker 4: run him over. But I would say that.
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Speaker 3: That's about it.
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Speaker 4: I probably won't get any stats, but if you lose
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Speaker 4: your dribble, I can get it right back to you.
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Speaker 4: I'm a good team player. Good on the bench.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a very inspirational quote by Dion Waiters. He said,
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Speaker 6: I'd rather shoot 0 for 30 than 0 for 9
45:32
Speaker 6: because 0 for 9 means you stop shooting. So I
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Speaker 6: would probably do that until they finally say, enough shooting,
45:37
Speaker 6: get back on the bench.
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Speaker 1: All right, last one.
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Speaker 6: This one may need a little bit more time to
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Speaker 6: think about this one. What sports conspiracy theory Do you
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Speaker 6: believe the most?
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Speaker 4: Oh, gosh.
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Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you a question, Dan. The frozen envelope,
45:53
Speaker 3: that's kind of a fact at this point. The Patrick
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Speaker 3: Ewing draft. Is that even a conspiracy theory? Of course
45:58
Speaker 3: the envelope was frozen.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that one I think is, you can call it
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Speaker 6: a conspiracy theory, but at this point it's so proven.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll stay with NBA. I think the lottery that
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Speaker 3: gave Cooper Flagg to the Mavs most recently, I think
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Speaker 3: that was fishy.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to go back to the Knicks. I
46:16
Speaker 4: don't really believe in conspiracies almost ever in sports. However,
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Speaker 4: if I were running the league, and if you knew
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Speaker 4: how big Patrick Ewing literally and figuratively was in the mid-' 80s,
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Speaker 4: I would have done anything I could to get him
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Speaker 4: to New York City. And if all it takes is
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Speaker 4: putting an envelope in the freezer for an hour and
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Speaker 4: a half, sign me up. I would have done the
46:32
Speaker 4: same thing.
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Speaker 6: I've got not-so-fast-branded tinfoil hats coming in the mail, so
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Speaker 6: we can spend a little bit more time on that
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Speaker 6: when they get here.
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Speaker 4: Good questions, Danny.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, buddy.
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Speaker 6: Thanks, guys.
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Speaker 4: Nice job out of them. Questions for the back room
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Speaker 4: every week here on Not So Fast. Perloff, let's get
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Speaker 4: right to it. Your questions on Twitter. Constructive criticism time, Perloff.
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Speaker 4: Here we go. This is for feedback.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
46:52
Speaker 4: Possibly about your shirt, maybe about my hair. Here we go.
46:54
Speaker 4: First question. I watch every day at noon and love it.
46:58
Speaker 4: You know, this is straight pandering by our production staff.
47:01
Speaker 4: If you compliment the show, you're making air.
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Speaker 3: That's not really a question, but I absolutely love this tweet.
47:06
Speaker 4: Yeah, like where your head's at, Mike Villette. All right,
47:07
Speaker 4: next one. Here we go, Perloff. Will NFL ever make
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Speaker 4: officials job full-time? No, it's too expensive. I don't think
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Speaker 4: they should pay them that much. They should have side jobs.
47:18
Speaker 4: They have full-time jobs, these guys. Paying them more and
47:21
Speaker 4: making them full-time will not make the refereeing any better.
47:24
Speaker 3: I think even if they offered them, the officials would
47:26
Speaker 3: still work a second job. Because otherwise, what are they
47:28
Speaker 3: going to do? Just sit around from February until September?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, watch tape. I mean, I would take that job.
47:32
Speaker 4: You and I would take that job. All right, one more, Pearl.
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Speaker 4: Here we go. What old-timey tradition would you like to
47:38
Speaker 4: see make a comeback? Ryan Organ, is this like life
47:41
Speaker 4: or is it sports? Where are we going here?
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Speaker 3: I'm going to take it sports. I like those old
47:44
Speaker 3: black and white photos where everyone's wearing a suit to
47:47
Speaker 3: the baseball game. Like a wool suit.
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Speaker 4: In summer.
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Speaker 3: A top hat. Yeah, I think suits to a baseball game.
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Speaker 3: Maybe just a one-off. I don't know if anyone even
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Speaker 3: has ties anymore. So I'd love to see that for
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Speaker 3: the visual.
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Speaker 4: Now we'd have a rise in heat stroke by fans,
48:01
Speaker 4: but you would be in favor.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe do it at an indoor park if you
48:04
Speaker 3: have to. But come on, that was classy.
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Speaker 4: You know, I would say my tradition. How about wiffle ball?
48:09
Speaker 4: More wiffle ball. I think it is making a comeback.
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Speaker 4: More kids playing wiffle ball outside. I want to see
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Speaker 4: more of that. It's an all-American game.
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Speaker 3: Is that old-timey, though? I feel like stickball is old-timey.
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Speaker 3: Maybe we should bring back stickball.
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Speaker 4: I never played stickball growing up. It was all wiffle.
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Speaker 4: We didn't have walls to hit off of where I
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Speaker 4: grew up.
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Speaker 3: Right, right, right, right. But if you're talking old-timey, in Brooklyn,
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Speaker 3: like me, they played stickball.
48:28
Speaker 4: It's time for the feel-good here before we get you
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Speaker 4: out of here. The New England Patriots. Halloween coming up.
48:34
Speaker 4: Look at the fellas going to the local kids' hospital.
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Speaker 4: All dressed up. They went all out.
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Speaker 3: That's pretty good. But I don't know. Are they making
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Speaker 3: it about themselves here? What's going on?
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Speaker 4: No, no. They matched with one of the kids.
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Speaker 1: Oh.
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Speaker 3: All right. That is pretty cool. Good for those kids.
48:53
Speaker 4: Getting autographs, getting pictures, and some good uniforms. Some big
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Speaker 4: dudes in those outfits.
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Speaker 3: You know, it brings up sort of a tough topic.
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Speaker 3: Are we dressing up?
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Speaker 4: For Halloween?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: We'll talk about that in our meeting. All right, who
49:06
Speaker 4: you got tonight? Brewers, Rays, what do you got?
49:08
Speaker 3: I think it's over tonight. What do you got?
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Speaker 4: I'm going Brewers 7-1, and they get ready for their parade.
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Speaker 4: All right, that's it for Not So Fast. Tune in
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Speaker 4: tomorrow morning right here on NBC Sports Now, Dan Patrick Show,
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Speaker 4: 9 to noon Eastern. Then come hang with us. Enjoy
49:20
Speaker 4: the baseball tonight. Good luck to both teams.