Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Pastor Jamal Bryant On 40-Day Fast Against Target, Black America's Success, Politics + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Morning everybody, It's the DJ Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
- 0:09Speaker 2: We are the breakfast Club. Law on the Rosa is here.
- 0:11Speaker 2: We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed
- 0:13Speaker 2: have passed, Jamaal Bryant.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Welcome brother, Thank you sir. Good to be with y'all.
- 0:17Speaker 2: How are you feeling this morning, Bill?
- 0:18Speaker 1: Great?
- 0:18Speaker 3: Feeling good?
- 0:19Speaker 1: You flew in this I flew in last night.
- 0:21Speaker 3: Oh wow wow, get right after the service.
- 0:23Speaker 4: Right after service. Yeah, I was too scared. I was
- 0:26Speaker 4: gonna be delayed. Delta got a whole lot going on
- 0:28Speaker 4: right now. So I came in last night. Better safe
- 0:31Speaker 4: than sorry.
- 0:32Speaker 5: You know you you one of the people who you
- 0:34Speaker 5: You actually use social media to spread the word and
- 0:37Speaker 5: spread what you're doing in a a in a great way.
- 0:40Speaker 3: When did you realize that you had to start doing it?
- 0:43Speaker 4: I think, uh, culture made it. The culture changes every
- 0:47Speaker 4: four years. Church culture changes every twenty so the average
- 0:52Speaker 4: church is fifteen years behind schedule. So to reach a
- 0:55Speaker 4: younger demographic, I knew I had to hear that most
- 0:58Speaker 4: churches Charlemagne broadcasts on Facebook.
- 1:01Speaker 1: Most young people are on.
- 1:02Speaker 4: TikTok, So it's a great disconnect. So social media really
- 1:06Speaker 4: is that bridge to make the church relevant to a
- 1:09Speaker 4: generation as disconnected and.
- 1:11Speaker 3: Church called you said, church cold changes every twenty years.
- 1:13Speaker 4: Yes, that look like I don't well by virtue of
- 1:16Speaker 4: the fact that we're always running behind. So the average
- 1:20Speaker 4: Black church wouldn't even know what AI is. You have
- 1:23Speaker 4: to think most churches didn't even stream to the pandemic.
- 1:28Speaker 4: Three thousand, three forty five churches closed in the pandemic
- 1:33Speaker 4: simply because they didn't have online given they still passing
- 1:37Speaker 4: the plate in writing checks and don't know.
- 1:40Speaker 1: How to download. So a lot of our churches have
- 1:42Speaker 1: got to really run up to speed.
- 1:43Speaker 2: Wow, and how is that with the old congregation, the
- 1:45Speaker 2: older congregation and the younger congregation with the TikTok and
- 1:48Speaker 2: Facebook mesh.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Right, It is really a changing of the guard. That
- 1:55Speaker 1: church is.
- 1:56Speaker 4: What was our grandmother's church with funeral home fans and
- 1:59Speaker 4: fried chicken downstairs has shifted and the newer generation may
- 2:04Speaker 4: not come to a physical building.
- 2:06Speaker 1: They may just stream.
- 2:08Speaker 4: So those who are in the old church said, are
- 2:10Speaker 4: you ain't really doing it if you ain't in the
- 2:12Speaker 4: building when we do everything online. So to say that
- 2:16Speaker 4: you're not really connected to God because you're streaming and
- 2:18Speaker 4: not sitting on the pew is a disconnective of what
- 2:21Speaker 4: the culture is and where we're going.
- 2:23Speaker 6: What's your I mean, I know you get you always
- 2:26Speaker 6: get people that love you or don't love you. They
- 2:29Speaker 6: probably used to this, But what's your model every day
- 2:31Speaker 6: when you're like, Okay, I'm gonna get up, I'm gonna
- 2:33Speaker 6: say something that people probably won't touch. What's that motivating factor?
- 2:36Speaker 6: Because sometimes I think pastor stereo away from stuff because
- 2:39Speaker 6: they don't want controversy, because they think controversy means that
- 2:42Speaker 6: God is not within the house anymore.
- 2:44Speaker 4: Yeah, there's an incredible book called The Carriage to be Disliked.
- 2:48Speaker 4: There's a whole lot of people always live for other
- 2:51Speaker 4: people's affirmation. John Maxwell said, if you want to be
- 2:54Speaker 4: like sell ice cream, but if you add sprinkles, somebody
- 2:59Speaker 4: gonna be.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Allergic to it.
- 3:00Speaker 4: And so I think that the call to be great
- 3:03Speaker 4: and a call to make a difference is realizing that
- 3:06Speaker 4: you're going to go outside of the culture. When Doctor
- 3:07Speaker 4: King was killed, his popularity was at its lowest. But
- 3:11Speaker 4: now everybody got street signs and T shirts and a
- 3:15Speaker 4: lot of times people don't recognize your greatness until after
- 3:18Speaker 4: you make the impact. Maha Na Gandhi said, first they
- 3:21Speaker 4: laugh at you, then they try to kill you, then
- 3:24Speaker 4: they try to copy what you did. And so once
- 3:26Speaker 4: you find out how to be a frontiersman and to
- 3:30Speaker 4: make that difference, it'll really free you from other people's opinion.
- 3:33Speaker 2: I wanted to ask one more back of the church question.
- 3:36Speaker 2: Is a physical church necessarily needed?
- 3:38Speaker 3: Right?
- 3:38Speaker 2: And the reason I asked that is you talk about
- 3:40Speaker 2: the amount of people at douch stream right. Yeah, it's
- 3:43Speaker 2: difficult to get out if you have a bunch of
- 3:44Speaker 2: kids and everything that's going on in this world, people
- 3:46Speaker 2: are scared. Is it physical church needed now?
- 3:49Speaker 1: Absolutely? It is the power of unity.
- 3:53Speaker 4: There was an article a couple of weeks ago how
- 3:56Speaker 4: social media has made this the loneliest Ageeople are connected
- 4:01Speaker 4: online but disconnected from people.
- 4:03Speaker 1: So a lot of people are depressed.
- 4:05Speaker 4: A lot of people have anxiety, a lot of people
- 4:07Speaker 4: have sleep disorder, a lot of people are confronting mental illness.
- 4:10Speaker 1: But online everything is up and we stuck.
- 4:14Speaker 4: But I think that that sense of community, that sense
- 4:16Speaker 4: of connectedness, is still.
- 4:18Speaker 5: Necessary before we get into the target fast. I want
- 4:21Speaker 5: to talk about Jesse Waters from Fox News. Yes, Jesse
- 4:25Speaker 5: Water said you was racist, Yes, because you criticized black
- 4:28Speaker 5: people who went to the White House for the Black
- 4:30Speaker 5: History Month program.
- 4:31Speaker 4: Right, what do you say to that that he clearly
- 4:34Speaker 4: doesn't know what racism is because I wasn't talking about
- 4:36Speaker 4: white people. I would talk about black people who having
- 4:41Speaker 4: an identity crisis, who were in their cheering for Black
- 4:46Speaker 4: History Months. Under an administration that wants to make it illegal,
- 4:50Speaker 4: no federal agency could honor Black History Months. So for
- 4:53Speaker 4: them to have a program was absolutely crazy. And all
- 4:58Speaker 4: the more, they raised up my picture Charlemagne after announcing
- 5:03Speaker 4: who was the new FBI director. Uh So for your
- 5:07Speaker 4: own people to do that to you, I was calling
- 5:09Speaker 4: them out. I don't know why he would call that racism,
- 5:12Speaker 4: as much as it was exposure.
- 5:14Speaker 1: Black people don't have the capacity to be racist.
- 5:17Speaker 3: I wonder why they did hold your picture up in the.
- 5:19Speaker 1: Three of them.
- 5:20Speaker 4: Charlamagne, you've been to the White House on the way, Yeah,
- 5:22Speaker 4: you've been to the White House never in your life,
- 5:26Speaker 4: never under nobody.
- 5:28Speaker 3: No, oh wow, the vice president.
- 5:32Speaker 4: Let's take the vice president house. You're not going in
- 5:35Speaker 4: the vice President's house with a picture or a sign
- 5:38Speaker 4: holding up no stick. You barely can get a backpack
- 5:41Speaker 4: in there. So for them to have three pictures of
- 5:43Speaker 4: me in the east wing is absolutely crazy. And I
- 5:47Speaker 4: don't know Jasmin Krackett is up there? How came Jefferson
- 5:51Speaker 4: is up there? Clypun is up there? Why put my
- 5:54Speaker 4: picture up? Uh?
- 5:55Speaker 1: So I think it was a targeted attack.
- 5:58Speaker 4: Uh.
- 5:58Speaker 1: And so for them to assume I wasn't gonna say
- 6:00Speaker 1: anything was outlandish.
- 6:01Speaker 3: You did call them the spools who sat by the
- 6:03Speaker 3: door though, yes, well that's a good thing.
- 6:05Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, in the context of the book was funny
- 6:12Speaker 4: and Charlamagne none of them negroes ready.
- 6:15Speaker 1: So they didn't even know what I was talking about.
- 6:19Speaker 4: Uh until I also called him as a runaway slave,
- 6:22Speaker 4: which is and they didn't even understand the context of
- 6:25Speaker 4: it because they're lost in their own misery of delusion.
- 6:28Speaker 6: You also said you reminded them that you ain't never scared,
- 6:31Speaker 6: reminded them from the West side of Baltimore and told
- 6:34Speaker 6: them they got a problem.
- 6:34Speaker 1: Pull up on you.
- 6:35Speaker 6: Has anybody reached out to you to have that conversation
- 6:38Speaker 6: or whatever? That pull up you thought was?
- 6:39Speaker 1: No, they made videos. They don't have none of that
- 6:42Speaker 1: in them.
- 6:43Speaker 4: This was the society, this was the fraternity of Calton Banks.
- 6:47Speaker 4: None of them, none of them got that kind of
- 6:50Speaker 4: DNA in them. So they all went on and did
- 6:53Speaker 4: the social media posts.
- 6:55Speaker 3: Uh.
- 6:55Speaker 4: I don't even know if they knew what that meant.
- 6:57Speaker 4: They needed a hood interpreter, a hood whisperer to tell
- 7:01Speaker 4: them what it is that that meant. But they are
- 7:03Speaker 4: so lost that they have that access to the president
- 7:07Speaker 4: and didn't champion any of.
- 7:09Speaker 1: The needs of their own community.
- 7:11Speaker 4: So while they are celebrating Black History Month, they should
- 7:14Speaker 4: have said to them, Hey, if we're going to celebrate it,
- 7:17Speaker 4: we can't ban the books that record it. If we're
- 7:20Speaker 4: going to celebrate it, then we can't penalize the public
- 7:23Speaker 4: schools that want to teach it or fire the instructors
- 7:26Speaker 4: who are really ambassadors for it. For them to have
- 7:29Speaker 4: that access and that opportunity and not, in the words
- 7:32Speaker 4: of Bishop Jackson, maximize the moment with just a waste.
- 7:36Speaker 3: You from Baltimore. How come you don't say church pew
- 7:39Speaker 3: listen from Baltimore?
- 7:43Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah, no, I'm local and global, so I
- 7:48Speaker 1: got out. You got period?
- 7:53Speaker 4: Oh yeah, half and a half with wings period no,
- 7:55Speaker 4: I got it.
- 7:56Speaker 1: All day long.
- 7:57Speaker 4: I'm Baltimore through and through, but I spent time in
- 8:00Speaker 4: bolt In Atlanta, I went to more House, then I
- 8:03Speaker 4: went to a Duke for a grad school, and then
- 8:06Speaker 4: I went back to.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Bolton, don't you?
- 8:07Speaker 6: And what's your relationship like with the black pastors who
- 8:09Speaker 6: were also working President Trump? Because I know you called
- 8:11Speaker 6: them out before too, it was on their top. So
- 8:14Speaker 6: is there, like, is there a working relationship because I
- 8:18Speaker 6: think you do make points that people should listen to
- 8:20Speaker 6: and they're there.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Yes, No, it's Nikki Giovanni's ego tripping.
- 8:25Speaker 4: A lot of people miss what the assignment is because
- 8:28Speaker 4: they want the proximity of power without even really.
- 8:32Speaker 1: Having the real access of it.
- 8:34Speaker 4: And so it's got to go beyond what is the
- 8:36Speaker 4: photo app or a handshake to say, oh, I know
- 8:38Speaker 4: the president.
- 8:39Speaker 1: But now that you know them, what are you going
- 8:42Speaker 1: to do about it?
- 8:43Speaker 4: So I think that there is a common ground for
- 8:45Speaker 4: us to be able to meet, but you've got to
- 8:48Speaker 4: make sure that you don't sell your own people out
- 8:49Speaker 4: in the process.
- 8:50Speaker 5: To your point, That's why I never wanted to go
- 8:52Speaker 5: to the white though, because it's just like for what like,
- 8:54Speaker 5: I'm not going just for a photo op if I'm
- 8:56Speaker 5: not presenting anything, or going with somebody who's presenting something.
- 8:58Speaker 1: With the point, I'm with you on fifty yard line.
- 9:00Speaker 4: But you represent too much people of influence who won't
- 9:03Speaker 4: have that access. So when it is that you go there,
- 9:07Speaker 4: this is an era Charlemagne where you would have more
- 9:10Speaker 4: influence than any head of any civil rights organization. More
- 9:15Speaker 4: people are listening to you. I don't want to call
- 9:18Speaker 4: the names of organizations than a lot of those organizations.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Let's go a step further.
- 9:23Speaker 4: We step outside of this room, go down, says and
- 9:25Speaker 4: ask people who was the head of this organization?
- 9:28Speaker 1: Head of that? They have no idea.
- 9:30Speaker 4: And so I think that you got to realize that
- 9:32Speaker 4: the shaping of influence is different than the microphone that
- 9:36Speaker 4: you would have entree to get into those spaces.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Would you meet with Trump?
- 9:41Speaker 1: I would meet with Trump, but I wouldn't go by myself.
- 9:43Speaker 1: Got you.
- 9:44Speaker 4: I wouldn't go by myself. I'd have to take some
- 9:46Speaker 4: credible people with me. So one, hold me accountable so
- 9:50Speaker 4: we can all say what happened in that meeting, And
- 9:53Speaker 4: two to make sure y'all ain't gonna play me like
- 9:56Speaker 4: Zelenski ain't no way in the world you're gonna have
- 9:59Speaker 4: all them cameras rolling and then say you ought to
- 10:01Speaker 4: be grateful to be here, and how come you ain't
- 10:03Speaker 4: got a suit on? You got to have some level
- 10:07Speaker 4: of accountability in it. Would you pray before you go
- 10:09Speaker 4: in there? So I pray before I pray in there.
- 10:12Speaker 4: I'd have a biwe of my grandmother's Are you're in
- 10:15Speaker 4: my podcast?
- 10:16Speaker 6: Oh?
- 10:16Speaker 1: No, all of that, But there's no way I would
- 10:18Speaker 1: just go in there.
- 10:18Speaker 3: Hey, let's ge should have handled it.
- 10:20Speaker 1: I think he did it.
- 10:22Speaker 4: What this administration has shown us is diplomacy is no
- 10:26Speaker 4: longer honored. That was an argument in the barbershop that
- 10:31Speaker 4: was not world leaders talking about the devastation of hundreds
- 10:36Speaker 4: of thousands of lives. So I give him high accommendation
- 10:39Speaker 4: that the argument should not be whether he had a
- 10:42Speaker 4: suit on, is what are you going to do about
- 10:44Speaker 4: innocent children being bombed? About seniors who are living out
- 10:48Speaker 4: in the street. And the question that he should have said,
- 10:52Speaker 4: why do y'all have suits on when your people are
- 10:55Speaker 4: fighting to get medicaid while y'all got suits on when
- 10:58Speaker 4: all of these students are getting ready to be rib
- 11:00Speaker 4: the scholarships from pel grants while y'all got suits on.
- 11:03Speaker 4: When the stock market is losing billions of dollars every day,
- 11:07Speaker 4: everybody should be an overalls. So he should have flipped it.
- 11:10Speaker 4: But I think he did it in as much decency
- 11:13Speaker 4: intact as it could.
- 11:14Speaker 5: I want to ask you to as a pastor, what
- 11:15Speaker 5: makes you get involved in politics so much?
- 11:17Speaker 3: Because I see people.
- 11:18Speaker 5: I see a lot of pastores like to steer clear,
- 11:20Speaker 5: steer stay clear from that.
- 11:22Speaker 3: Why do you like to get involved?
- 11:23Speaker 4: Well, one a lot of staying clear now because they
- 11:26Speaker 4: don't know what this administration is going to do. This
- 11:29Speaker 4: administration has already said that they want to take away
- 11:32Speaker 4: five or one c threes. Uh, they want to look
- 11:36Speaker 4: at anybody who stands with Palestine as a terrorist organization.
- 11:41Speaker 1: But I think that it's got to be.
- 11:43Speaker 4: A revolution comes with inconvenience, Uh, to know that it
- 11:47Speaker 4: goes against the prick, and you got to stand on business.
- 11:51Speaker 1: Uh.
- 11:51Speaker 4: And to be a real profit is not you get
- 11:54Speaker 4: a car, you get a house, you get money. A
- 11:56Speaker 4: real profit biblically was to confront the king and say
- 12:00Speaker 4: you out of order, you're not doing this right. And
- 12:03Speaker 4: I think that you're going to find a whole lot
- 12:05Speaker 4: of people emerging, and they are people who are doing it.
- 12:08Speaker 1: What has happened in the culture is we have confused
- 12:11Speaker 1: notoriety with strength.
- 12:14Speaker 4: The most powerful preachers in every major city don't have megachurches,
- 12:19Speaker 4: but they're in the community doing the hard work.
- 12:21Speaker 1: But they don't have press conferences.
- 12:23Speaker 4: They don't know the governor, they don't know the mayor,
- 12:25Speaker 4: but the people in the community they serve on in
- 12:27Speaker 4: respect them.
- 12:28Speaker 2: Let's talk about this, the forty day Fast of Target.
- 12:31Speaker 1: Yes, and this is.
- 12:33Speaker 2: Something that you're trying to put into play, and why
- 12:36Speaker 2: I'm not trying you are putting.
- 12:37Speaker 1: It in another way. Yeah.
- 12:38Speaker 4: So people are asking, why do we pick Target when
- 12:44Speaker 4: Walmart out of order, McDonald's out, or the John DIA's out,
- 12:47Speaker 4: or the Bank of America's out of order, Amazon, Amazon
- 12:50Speaker 4: is out of order? Is we wanted to go? The
- 12:54Speaker 4: African proverb says, if you want to eat an elephant,
- 12:56Speaker 4: do one.
- 12:57Speaker 1: Piece at a time.
- 12:58Speaker 4: So we picked Target first for say reasons. Number one,
- 13:01Speaker 4: Target is headquartered in the same city George Floyd was killed.
- 13:06Speaker 4: When George Floyd was killed, Target came out made an
- 13:09Speaker 4: announcement that they're going to invest two billion dollars in
- 13:14Speaker 4: the black business two billion drum roll, and it starts
- 13:19Speaker 4: December of twenty twenty five. When Trump made the announcement
- 13:24Speaker 4: January of twenty twenty five, they dishonored that commitment. So
- 13:28Speaker 4: we wanted to hold them accountable because when they made
- 13:31Speaker 4: the pledge, they had nothing to do with DII. Secondly,
- 13:34Speaker 4: I am embarrassed Breakfast Club to say to you, Nigro
- 13:39Speaker 4: spend twelve million dollars a day in Target, and I
- 13:43Speaker 4: don't know any black business that amasses that much money
- 13:47Speaker 4: in any.
- 13:47Speaker 1: Singular day to twelve million day a day.
- 13:51Speaker 4: Number three, Target is on twenty seven college campuses and
- 13:56Speaker 4: not one HBCU. Number four outside of the federal government.
- 14:03Speaker 4: Target is the largest employer of black people. There are
- 14:07Speaker 4: four hundred thousand black people on payroll and don't honor us.
- 14:12Speaker 4: So we're given that kind of money, that much human capital,
- 14:15Speaker 4: and to not honor us, I think is dismally disrespected.
- 14:19Speaker 4: And because they're publicly traded, we wanted to see what
- 14:22Speaker 4: will happen in those forty days. That shows the data,
- 14:26Speaker 4: this is the impact when black people walk away, and
- 14:30Speaker 4: to share it with those sharecrops, so it will not
- 14:32Speaker 4: just be forty days, but every movement has to have
- 14:35Speaker 4: a benchmark, It has got to have a strategy, and
- 14:38Speaker 4: you got to have some data.
- 14:39Speaker 3: What do you call it fast and not a boycott?
- 14:41Speaker 4: Yeah, I called it a fast because this was a
- 14:45Speaker 4: call to the Black church to become active. Something happened
- 14:50Speaker 4: silently that scholars and historians are going to have to
- 14:54Speaker 4: pay attention to the rise of Black Lives Matter. Charlemagne
- 14:59Speaker 4: was the very first movement of civil rights for black
- 15:03Speaker 4: people that was not berthed out of the church, the
- 15:07Speaker 4: very first civil rights movement that happened that didn't have
- 15:10Speaker 4: a religious leader at the front.
- 15:13Speaker 1: And so the Black church is going backwards.
- 15:15Speaker 4: This is the largest demographic of black people since we've
- 15:19Speaker 4: been in America who don't go to church at all,
- 15:22Speaker 4: who don't subscribe to organized religion.
- 15:24Speaker 1: We're at twenty eight percent.
- 15:26Speaker 4: The largest amount of Black people who self identify as atheists,
- 15:32Speaker 4: who say they don't believe in God, don't believe in nothing.
- 15:35Speaker 4: So this was a call specifically for Black Christians to
- 15:39Speaker 4: show the younger generation our head is not in the sand.
- 15:43Speaker 4: We're a part of it, but we're aligning it with
- 15:45Speaker 4: prayer that those forty days is the high holy season
- 15:50Speaker 4: for the Christian community.
- 15:51Speaker 1: We're praying because this is a spiritual warfare that we're
- 15:54Speaker 1: under with JD.
- 15:56Speaker 4: Vance and Donald Trump, with all of the things that
- 15:59Speaker 4: are happening with these exis executive orders. Marching is good,
- 16:02Speaker 4: Protesting is necessary, Petitions are important. But if we don't
- 16:06Speaker 4: bring a spiritual grounding to it, I think that we're
- 16:09Speaker 4: gonna miss it.
- 16:10Speaker 1: During the Montgomery bus.
- 16:11Speaker 4: Boycott that lasts three hundred and eighty one days, what
- 16:15Speaker 4: nobody talks about is for three hundred and eighty one days.
- 16:20Speaker 1: Every night they went back to the church for prayor so.
- 16:23Speaker 4: I think that in the movement you've got to have
- 16:25Speaker 4: a faith entity intertwined in it in order for you
- 16:28Speaker 4: to move forward.
- 16:29Speaker 2: What do you say to some of the people that
- 16:31Speaker 2: have black products in Target? They say that, you know,
- 16:34Speaker 2: because of this boycott. If a boycott happens and people
- 16:36Speaker 2: are stopping to go to Target, that is going to
- 16:38Speaker 2: affect their products even more.
- 16:39Speaker 1: I know.
- 16:39Speaker 2: We had the co founders of Rocke Roots on the
- 16:42Speaker 2: Breakfast Club. They found the lit bar and they were
- 16:45Speaker 2: saying that if people don't come into the store, which
- 16:48Speaker 2: Target is their hugest manufactured the hugest buyer.
- 16:51Speaker 1: So what happens to those products?
- 16:53Speaker 4: Number one, the lit bar and all of those entities
- 16:56Speaker 4: understand a new thing out called drop ship. You don't
- 17:00Speaker 4: have to go in the physical store to help them.
- 17:04Speaker 4: Because of that, In foresight, we partner with the US
- 17:07Speaker 4: Black Chamber of Commerce.
- 17:09Speaker 1: So every person that goes.
- 17:10Speaker 4: To targetfast dot org, within an hour, I send you
- 17:14Speaker 4: a digital directory of three hundred thousand black businesses across
- 17:19Speaker 4: the country. So we don't want those businesses to be
- 17:22Speaker 4: adversely impacted. We want people to support them, but do
- 17:26Speaker 4: it online. I can support the lit Bar and not
- 17:29Speaker 4: go into Target to do it. I can go online
- 17:32Speaker 4: to do it. And so I think that as innovative
- 17:34Speaker 4: and creative people as black people are, let's do it online.
- 17:38Speaker 4: We do everything else online, so let's support them. And
- 17:41Speaker 4: the one thousand black vendors who are placed in Target,
- 17:46Speaker 4: we're going to prominently place on the website so that
- 17:49Speaker 4: you'll be able to find them quickly without any post.
- 17:52Speaker 1: I saw you.
- 17:54Speaker 6: Two things to what you're saying. So the first thing,
- 17:56Speaker 6: when they were up here, they talked about the inventory
- 17:58Speaker 6: and just how much money they have to put a
- 18:00Speaker 6: head to be any store that comes out of their
- 18:02Speaker 6: own pocket that they will lose out on if people
- 18:04Speaker 6: do not if they're not supporting these companies or whatever.
- 18:08Speaker 6: So even if you're buying it from their website, because
- 18:11Speaker 6: they're already in contract for this amount of inventory alloted
- 18:13Speaker 6: to Target, they lose out. They don't profit on that.
- 18:15Speaker 4: Now, yes, well that money has already been spent. A
- 18:19Speaker 4: movement comes with inconvenience. It came that same argument happened
- 18:24Speaker 4: in the Montgomery bus Boy Guide. The question was asked,
- 18:27Speaker 4: what do we do for the bust mechanics.
- 18:30Speaker 1: Who were all black? So what they did is they pulled.
- 18:33Speaker 4: All of those bust mechanics out of Montgomery and set
- 18:36Speaker 4: up garages at the churches. What nobody is talking about.
- 18:41Speaker 4: It's four mechanic shops came out of it. So I
- 18:44Speaker 4: understand that it's an inconvenience. I know we got to
- 18:46Speaker 4: go a different route. But I would then say that's up.
- 18:49Speaker 4: The ant is a business principle, let's buy more to
- 18:52Speaker 4: cover what is that loss?
- 18:54Speaker 1: Companies take losses all the time.
- 18:56Speaker 4: But a group of misguided preachers went into Target in
- 19:00Speaker 4: Detroit and say, let's just buy black inventory and come
- 19:04Speaker 4: out you're still supporting Target. So I think that we've
- 19:06Speaker 4: got to come away. Even if we got to raise
- 19:10Speaker 4: the price in order to make the balance, Let's do it.
- 19:13Speaker 4: One of the things that black people do wrong whenever
- 19:17Speaker 4: it is with supporting black business, we always want a discount.
- 19:20Speaker 4: Let's pay full price and support them. Let's not just
- 19:23Speaker 4: do it with lip service, but let's do it through
- 19:26Speaker 4: the investment.
- 19:26Speaker 6: And I saw you my last thing to your point
- 19:29Speaker 6: of like just up in the ante online. Yes, the
- 19:32Speaker 6: women from Rocker Roots talked about how majority Ellen's I'm sorry,
- 19:35Speaker 6: I her name defind me. I own Jamison and Ellen
- 19:39Speaker 6: sellers talked about how even in Walmart's majority of their
- 19:43Speaker 6: clients hele that they make a large amount of their
- 19:45Speaker 6: money off of on those products. They don't have the
- 19:47Speaker 6: access to the dot com So being able to walk
- 19:49Speaker 6: into like it's just different in some of the lower
- 19:52Speaker 6: royal areas. So being able to walk into a Walmart
- 19:55Speaker 6: or a Target helps them as far as inventory and
- 19:57Speaker 6: creates access for those people.
- 19:59Speaker 1: What about that?
- 19:59Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that we've got to ask ourselves what
- 20:02Speaker 4: is the principle And is the principle more important than
- 20:06Speaker 4: the profit? You've got a whole lot of churches who
- 20:10Speaker 4: have space that is underutilized and under used. The fact
- 20:14Speaker 4: that in twenty twenty five we don't have a minority
- 20:19Speaker 4: on retail space to direct people on says that.
- 20:23Speaker 1: We got to re evaluate how we do business.
- 20:26Speaker 4: So going into Target to buy whatever this product is
- 20:30Speaker 4: to say, hey, forget that they don't honor us, forget
- 20:33Speaker 4: that they've disrespected to George Floyd family, forget that they
- 20:36Speaker 4: are only allowing black people on entry level positions. Let's
- 20:40Speaker 4: do it for lipstick. I think that we're losing the
- 20:43Speaker 4: larger conversation. I want to see the sisters win. I
- 20:45Speaker 4: want to see them do overwhelmingly well. But I think
- 20:48Speaker 4: that we got to get into a room and figure
- 20:50Speaker 4: out how do we make it more accessible for those
- 20:53Speaker 4: in rural areas. I don't think that the answer is
- 20:57Speaker 4: to keep shooting ourselves in the foot and then ask
- 21:00Speaker 4: for a cast.
- 21:01Speaker 2: So will we ever get there past it? Like you know,
- 21:03Speaker 2: we want to get there, right? Will we ever own
- 21:05Speaker 2: our own Target slash Walmart? Where we ever own our
- 21:08Speaker 2: own car manufacturer? Will we ever own our own so
- 21:11Speaker 2: we can rely on it? It just seems like we're
- 21:14Speaker 2: far stretched from that.
- 21:15Speaker 4: Yeah, So one of the things that we're asking for
- 21:18Speaker 4: Target to do, and for all of the demands that
- 21:21Speaker 4: we're asking of Target, please go to targetfast dot or
- 21:25Speaker 4: they're on twenty seven college campuses, but no HBCUs. I'm
- 21:29Speaker 4: asking Target to partner with ten HBCUs to show our
- 21:34Speaker 4: businesses how to scale up and to go into the
- 21:37Speaker 4: retail space.
- 21:38Speaker 1: REPM Shopton is one of my mentors.
- 21:41Speaker 4: But in the history of black people, we have never
- 21:45Speaker 4: marched black people into a white business to say, spend
- 21:48Speaker 4: money here. So we got to figure out how it
- 21:51Speaker 4: is that we really re route and redirect so that
- 21:54Speaker 4: we can create an ecosystem.
- 21:56Speaker 1: For us to be able to do.
- 21:57Speaker 4: I think that is possible, but as a plan that
- 22:00Speaker 4: has to be a foot in order to make it done.
- 22:02Speaker 5: I don't have any problem with the boycott but I
- 22:04Speaker 5: don't have a problem with the boycott either. I just
- 22:06Speaker 5: feel like, you know, people should do something. I agree
- 22:09Speaker 5: if they're moved to do something. But I saw you
- 22:11Speaker 5: repost the preachers who let it there flocking to the
- 22:15Speaker 5: store to buy all the black products. Why why did
- 22:18Speaker 5: you feel the need to.
- 22:19Speaker 1: Read the room, read the room. There's there's there's no.
- 22:22Speaker 3: Way room though everybody room different.
- 22:24Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, read the living room. Yeah.
- 22:29Speaker 4: The Japanese proverbs said the best room in the house
- 22:32Speaker 4: is the room for improvement. You'll notice that it caurreed
- 22:35Speaker 4: on nowhere. Nobody thought that that was a good idea.
- 22:39Speaker 3: Except a lot of people talking about a bide.
- 22:41Speaker 1: Yeah, end target.
- 22:43Speaker 3: Yeah. I heard a lot of people saying't going there
- 22:46Speaker 3: and buy all the black products.
- 22:47Speaker 1: Yeah, don't do that, Yeah, don't do that.
- 22:49Speaker 4: I think that there's got to be a different way
- 22:51Speaker 4: that we redirect. I think, to my sister's point, how
- 22:55Speaker 4: do we support these businesses, to Envy's point that we
- 22:59Speaker 4: don't have a major retailer.
- 23:01Speaker 1: We're the most creative people. Y'all brought everybody in there.
- 23:04Speaker 4: Master p got on from selling from the trunk of
- 23:07Speaker 4: his car. So I think that we got to be
- 23:10Speaker 4: innovative and put a think tank together. Say, Maggie Johnson,
- 23:13Speaker 4: you brought all these movie theaters in the concession staying
- 23:16Speaker 4: cannot now buy lipstick. I don't know the answer to it,
- 23:19Speaker 4: but I think that we've got to figure out a
- 23:21Speaker 4: way and figure out a path and figure out a tributary.
- 23:23Speaker 5: I just don't want us to make the same mistakes
- 23:25Speaker 5: that our generations before us me meaning like people would knock.
- 23:30Speaker 3: Martin Luther King Jr. For his methods, and.
- 23:32Speaker 5: You know, different organizations would knock each other and say, no,
- 23:35Speaker 5: we should be doing it this way, we should be
- 23:36Speaker 5: doing it that way. It's like yo, as long as
- 23:38Speaker 5: everybody's doing something, I feel like it all can be effective.
- 23:42Speaker 1: In a sense. I'm gonna meet you on a fifty
- 23:43Speaker 1: yard line. If you got beef with.
- 23:46Speaker 4: Somebody, Me and you were friends and you find out
- 23:48Speaker 4: who you got beef with, I'm at dinner with You're like, oh, man,
- 23:53Speaker 4: I thought we was together, don't worry about it was
- 23:56Speaker 4: just cheesecake.
- 23:58Speaker 1: We ain't even talk about you. You would look at
- 24:00Speaker 1: me with a.
- 24:01Speaker 4: Different kind of eye, like, came, man, if we in
- 24:03Speaker 4: it together, how are you carrousing with the person who
- 24:06Speaker 4: is against me? And so I think that there's gotta
- 24:09Speaker 4: be a line in the sand of how it is
- 24:12Speaker 4: that we stand without attacking each other. I think that's
- 24:15Speaker 4: where where the rubbers the road. That can be many
- 24:18Speaker 4: different paths. I spoke at a college last week in Michigan,
- 24:23Speaker 4: and I asked them who is the head of the
- 24:26Speaker 4: LGBTQ movement, and all of these college students, nobody can
- 24:32Speaker 4: answer it. And I said, do you all believe that
- 24:34Speaker 4: LGBTQ has a movement? They said yes, and I said,
- 24:37Speaker 4: you don't know. The head said no. I said, that's
- 24:41Speaker 4: the memo black people gotta take. Have a movement without
- 24:45Speaker 4: making one singular spokesperson, that what it is that we're
- 24:48Speaker 4: doing can be rested on the back of the shoulder
- 24:51Speaker 4: of one person being the leader. So the movement doesn't
- 24:54Speaker 4: have to be just shopped in or Jasmine Crockett or
- 24:56Speaker 4: Maxine Waters that all of us are moving towards that
- 24:59Speaker 4: en but it is not one entity against another. The
- 25:02Speaker 4: reality is Malcolm X made Martin King a better leader
- 25:07Speaker 4: because he questioned his philosophy and he had to defend it.
- 25:10Speaker 4: And so I think one of the things that the
- 25:12Speaker 4: Detroit Passes did made a sharpened the conversation as to
- 25:16Speaker 4: why it is that we're not going. So it's not
- 25:18Speaker 4: just a social media post or rob Rob moment, but
- 25:21Speaker 4: there's something really tangible for us to argue.
- 25:24Speaker 1: To that point.
- 25:24Speaker 5: I feel like Malcolm was wrong for that. And the
- 25:27Speaker 5: reason I say that is because Martin Luther King Jr.
- 25:30Speaker 5: Was doing real work in an area We needed him
- 25:33Speaker 5: to do real work, meaning that he was building with
- 25:36Speaker 5: john Na Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson to get actual
- 25:38Speaker 5: legislation passed. But we need somebody like Martin, I mean,
- 25:40Speaker 5: Malcolm raising hell in the streets.
- 25:42Speaker 3: So to me, there was no reason for Malcolm to
- 25:44Speaker 3: be calling out Martin, yes and vice versa.
- 25:48Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it was calling out the philosophy.
- 25:52Speaker 4: The students who are part of the civil rights movement
- 25:54Speaker 4: before they could protest, before they could demonstrate, they argued
- 25:58Speaker 4: on the college campus at the professor, and they had
- 26:01Speaker 4: to have practice. So if somebody spits on you, that's
- 26:04Speaker 4: what you do. They try to pull you out from
- 26:06Speaker 4: the lunch counter, this is what you do. The reality
- 26:09Speaker 4: is we are no longer arguing philosophies. We're just arguing
- 26:13Speaker 4: about people and personality or who I don't like, who
- 26:17Speaker 4: I agree with. But I think that iron sharpens iron
- 26:20Speaker 4: in that space of arguing and articulating what we stand
- 26:24Speaker 4: on and why there needs to be different tracks. My
- 26:26Speaker 4: issue is not with people who argue against my methodology.
- 26:32Speaker 1: My issue is with those who don't believe in nothing,
- 26:36Speaker 1: who are just internet gangster.
- 26:37Speaker 4: Oh, this ain't gonna work. We ain't never gonna stick together.
- 26:40Speaker 4: This ain't gonna have no traction. Okay, then what are
- 26:43Speaker 4: you gonna do?
- 26:43Speaker 2: How those people reached out to you, the people that
- 26:45Speaker 2: don't agree with what you're doing, like those pastors that
- 26:47Speaker 2: took their congregation into buy Have you had those conversations
- 26:50Speaker 2: who y'all can get on the same page and see
- 26:52Speaker 2: some of the things.
- 26:52Speaker 1: That yes, yes, yes.
- 26:54Speaker 4: So as soon as I saw it, because I know them,
- 26:58Speaker 4: three fourths of them, I text them, ay man, y'all
- 27:00Speaker 4: on the wrong side of history.
- 27:02Speaker 3: You said amen, He said, nigga.
- 27:04Speaker 1: I said it was a Sunday.
- 27:06Speaker 6: I said.
- 27:10Speaker 1: It was a Sunday.
- 27:11Speaker 4: So I said, hey man, I said, hey man, you're
- 27:13Speaker 4: on the wrong side of history. He texted me back
- 27:16Speaker 4: and said, hey, this is what I thought process was,
- 27:19Speaker 4: This is why it is that we did it. I said,
- 27:21Speaker 4: it would have gone a whole lot further and better
- 27:25Speaker 4: if you had the conversation before you went in there.
- 27:28Speaker 4: So I went on a college campus to go speak
- 27:30Speaker 4: in Detroit, Wayne State. I come out of a lecturing
- 27:34Speaker 4: and the presses there and says, what do you think
- 27:36Speaker 4: about these pastors going to target?
- 27:38Speaker 1: Said? What passed us?
- 27:40Speaker 4: What are you talking about the reporter showed it to
- 27:43Speaker 4: me on the phone, and so that's when I got
- 27:45Speaker 4: in it. And I think that communication can solve a
- 27:48Speaker 4: whole lot of issues on so many different levels, whether
- 27:52Speaker 4: you married or whether you go on political agendas. Silence
- 27:57Speaker 4: is the worst thing that you can ever do. But
- 27:59Speaker 4: when we learn how to talk to each other and
- 28:01Speaker 4: discuss it, I understood where it is that they were
- 28:03Speaker 4: coming from. Those pastors are now walking alongside us for
- 28:08Speaker 4: the Target fast. But I think that communication is necessary.
- 28:12Speaker 4: I also want to put on record that I think
- 28:15Speaker 4: that it's good for black people to be in a
- 28:18Speaker 4: Republican party. I don't think all black should be Democrat.
- 28:21Speaker 4: We need somebody else who is in there. But if
- 28:24Speaker 4: you in there, you got to advocate for your people.
- 28:27Speaker 4: At the same time, I.
- 28:28Speaker 5: Saw you say that Target has been trying to reach
- 28:31Speaker 5: out to you. Yes, you, I don't want to talk
- 28:33Speaker 5: no diversity.
- 28:34Speaker 4: No, you may not have a job next week. You've
- 28:38Speaker 4: reached out during Black History mardw. I don't know if
- 28:40Speaker 4: you're gonna make it to same Patrick's. I need somebody
- 28:44Speaker 4: who got some job security and got some influence to
- 28:48Speaker 4: make a decision. I think this generation doesn't want symbolic wins,
- 28:52Speaker 4: they want substantive strides. And if you're just doing that
- 28:56Speaker 4: to say we met, we talked all the street, credibility
- 28:59Speaker 4: is gone. Needs somebody who can make a decision. And
- 29:02Speaker 4: you got to ask and be what's in the mind
- 29:05Speaker 4: of a CEO that can lose twelve million dollars a
- 29:09Speaker 4: day and say I'm not meeting.
- 29:11Speaker 2: So the person that reached out to you felt had
- 29:13Speaker 2: no influence.
- 29:14Speaker 1: Not enough influence.
- 29:16Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're gonna send the black people out to
- 29:18Speaker 4: talk to the black black guy, go talk to the black.
- 29:20Speaker 1: Gun them down. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.
- 29:23Speaker 4: I need to talk to the CEO or I need
- 29:25Speaker 4: to talk to somebody who was on that board of
- 29:27Speaker 4: Target or who can really help me understand where you
- 29:31Speaker 4: are and if you all are being punked by JD.
- 29:34Speaker 4: Vance and Trump, tell me that let's figure out how
- 29:37Speaker 4: we can walk alongside each other.
- 29:38Speaker 3: That's what it is.
- 29:39Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it is.
- 29:41Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 29:42Speaker 6: You so I know that talking about meeting Eventually y'all
- 29:46Speaker 6: want to have a conversation or there is something schedule
- 29:48Speaker 6: right you guys will be meeting June twelfth of Minneapolis.
- 29:51Speaker 1: That's when their stockholders meeting is yeah, so.
- 29:55Speaker 4: We are planning on going now. I'm hoping that we
- 29:57Speaker 4: have resolved by.
- 29:58Speaker 1: Them, that's what I was getting. Yes, we can't wait till.
- 30:01Speaker 4: June, but June twelfth and there Now it's an underground
- 30:05Speaker 4: murmur that they don't even want to do an in
- 30:07Speaker 4: person shareholders me.
- 30:09Speaker 1: They want to do it by zoom.
- 30:11Speaker 4: Want to show yes, yes, but that's why it's important
- 30:14Speaker 4: for you to have the data to show how this
- 30:17Speaker 4: has been impacted, how much money you've lost in the
- 30:20Speaker 4: stock and what is at stake. So we wanted to
- 30:22Speaker 4: take take all of that to the shareholders me to
- 30:26Speaker 4: June twelfth.
- 30:26Speaker 5: But you know, there was a bunch of Target shareholders
- 30:29Speaker 5: who filed a class action lawsuit against Target, and they
- 30:32Speaker 5: claim that Target artificially inflated stock prices and failed the
- 30:35Speaker 5: one investors about how removing DEI and ESG, which is environmental,
- 30:41Speaker 5: social and governance policies, could cause stock prices to plummet.
- 30:44Speaker 5: And it also talks about how Target concealed the backlashes
- 30:46Speaker 5: suffered from the.
- 30:48Speaker 3: Pride Month campaign.
- 30:49Speaker 5: Yes, after they removed the LGBTQ merchandise, and that's how
- 30:52Speaker 5: they've been losing all of that money since November of
- 30:54Speaker 5: twenty twenty four.
- 30:55Speaker 4: The America's worst Nightmayre is the marginalized unit. Fine, if
- 31:02Speaker 4: all of the different sectors came together, that's when you
- 31:06Speaker 4: have real power. Fingers separated don't mean anything. Fingers together
- 31:09Speaker 4: become a fists. The Poor People's Campaign is what doctor
- 31:13Speaker 4: King was putting together. Just before he was assassinated. He said,
- 31:16Speaker 4: the same poverty that's happening in Selma is the same
- 31:20Speaker 4: poverty to us in.
- 31:21Speaker 1: The Appalachian Mountains.
- 31:23Speaker 4: What happened that really frightened Jagehoover against the Black Panther
- 31:27Speaker 4: Party was they were unifying all marginalized people. So imagine,
- 31:33Speaker 4: if we're dealing with immigration, we don't allow the media
- 31:36Speaker 4: to just make it a Mexican issue. Let's talk about
- 31:39Speaker 4: the five hundred thousand Haitians who are unprotected. Let's talk
- 31:43Speaker 4: about the Africans who are being deported. Hear this family
- 31:47Speaker 4: who they not even deporting back to Africa. They in
- 31:50Speaker 4: jail right now in Panama, and we're not doing anything
- 31:53Speaker 4: or raising the alarm.
- 31:54Speaker 1: If all of.
- 31:55Speaker 4: These factions come together, A sister out of Harvard University says,
- 32:00Speaker 4: you to have a real revolution, you don't need one
- 32:02Speaker 4: hundred percent participation, You only need three percent. If three
- 32:07Speaker 4: percent of the population organized, you can shut any culture down,
- 32:11Speaker 4: any government down, any society down.
- 32:14Speaker 1: And what we're seeing in.
- 32:15Speaker 4: These town hall meetings with these Republican senators and congress
- 32:18Speaker 4: people is people are waking up saying, Hey, this and
- 32:21Speaker 4: what I signed up for. This can't be the last
- 32:24Speaker 4: train to Paris. Let me get out of here and
- 32:27Speaker 4: change direction. So I think that you're getting ready to
- 32:29Speaker 4: see a percolating in America of those who are marginalized,
- 32:33Speaker 4: that it is not just.
- 32:34Speaker 1: A race issue, it is a class issue. My last
- 32:37Speaker 1: question for you, where are you at now? Numbers wise?
- 32:39Speaker 6: Because I know you were looking to get one hundred
- 32:40Speaker 6: thousand people by when's this Wednesday the fifth? When it
- 32:43Speaker 6: starts and you are say.
- 32:44Speaker 1: Yeah, you got one hundred and ten thousand.
- 32:46Speaker 4: People got you have come and we did it before
- 32:49Speaker 4: we ever got to the breakfast club.
- 32:51Speaker 1: So now, y'all, we got to get to one fifty.
- 32:53Speaker 1: We got to get to one fifty because numbers is power.
- 32:56Speaker 4: It was important for me to have tangible evidence of
- 33:01Speaker 4: how many people are standing behind us, that it is
- 33:04Speaker 4: not just a post, it's not just lights and shares,
- 33:08Speaker 4: but one hundred thousand people. I can press a button'send
- 33:11Speaker 4: a email to say hey we outside in Target, Hey
- 33:14Speaker 4: we in Cincinnati, so that the people at Target know
- 33:17Speaker 4: that we mean business. That is not just symbolism, but
- 33:21Speaker 4: there's substance behind you.
- 33:22Speaker 2: How can people get behind you?
- 33:24Speaker 1: Go to targetfast dot org.
- 33:26Speaker 4: It's just one word there, you'll see what is our
- 33:29Speaker 4: list of a demand. When it is that you sign
- 33:31Speaker 4: up for Target fast, I'm gonna send you a digital
- 33:33Speaker 4: directory to those three hundred thousand businesses.
- 33:37Speaker 1: And even for those of you who.
- 33:38Speaker 4: Don't go to church or watch online, I'm gonna send
- 33:41Speaker 4: you a daily prayer devotional so that you can stay focused,
- 33:44Speaker 4: no pun intended, so you can stay on Target for
- 33:47Speaker 4: what it is that we're trying to get done.
- 33:48Speaker 2: All right, Well, we appreciate you for joining us this morning.
- 33:51Speaker 2: Targetfast dot org.
- 33:53Speaker 4: Thank you so much, brother man, thank you. And when
- 33:55Speaker 4: y'all come to Atlanta, I'm coming through. I ain't even
- 33:57Speaker 4: got a ticket. I'm coming.
- 34:00Speaker 3: Yeah, he came.
- 34:00Speaker 5: Patter Jamal's popped up to my Black podcast Festival.
- 34:03Speaker 1: I'm coming.
- 34:04Speaker 5: I want to come to New birth Man, you gotta
- 34:06Speaker 5: want to come on Sunday and check it out.
- 34:07Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta come. Absolutely, this room met to cross. Hey,
- 34:10Speaker 1: let me say this to you. I'm from Baltimore.
- 34:13Speaker 4: Do you know the first place I ever had Cray Charston,
- 34:15Speaker 4: South Carolina, Monk's Corner, Monks Corner, Okay, Monk's Corner, A
- 34:19Speaker 4: and me Church right there. James Blake, James Blake, just
- 34:22Speaker 4: back in the eighties. It is the first place I
- 34:25Speaker 4: ever had. My famous from Georgetown, South Carolina. So we
- 34:28Speaker 4: used to come down there every summer.
- 34:29Speaker 1: But Baltimore you had crabs and you from Baltimore. They
- 34:33Speaker 1: better than Baltimore. Never does not go too far.
- 34:38Speaker 4: Trauma, no, no, was trauma that I had to do
- 34:45Speaker 4: it in South Carolina before is amazing.
- 34:48Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's great. Just not as good as Baltimore,
- 34:51Speaker 1: but it's good. Thank you all.
- 34:52Speaker 2: Passing Jamal Brian is the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake
- 34:55Speaker 2: that ass up in the morning.
- 34:57Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club