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Showgirls · Verbal Diorama

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Hi,
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everyone.
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I'm
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Em.
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And
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welcome
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to
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Verbal
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Diorama,
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episode
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312,
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Showgirls.
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This
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is
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a
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podcast
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that's
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all
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about
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the
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history
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and
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legacy
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of
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Movies
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you
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Know
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and
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Movies
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you
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Don't.
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That
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doesn't
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suck.
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Welcome
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to
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Verbal
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Diorama.
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Whether
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you're
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a
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branbrand-newdnewlistenertothispodcast,whetheryou're
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aregularreturning
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listener,
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thank
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you
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for
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being
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here.
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Thank
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you
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for
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choosing
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to
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listen
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to
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this
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podcast.
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I
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am
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so
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Happy
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to
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have
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you
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here
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for
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the
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history
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and
3:37
legacy
3:37
of
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Showgirls.
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And
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if
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you
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are
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a
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regular
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returning
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listener,
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thank
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you
3:42
so
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much
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for
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continuing
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to
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return
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to
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this
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podcast
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to
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support
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this
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podcast.
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And
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it
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genuinely
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means
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so
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much
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to
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have
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you
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back
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with
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us.
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And
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if
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you're
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a
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brandbrand-newnewlistener,well,there'sa
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lotofepisodesforyou
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to
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catch
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up
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on,
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so
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hop
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to
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it.
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This,
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again
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has
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been
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one
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of
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those
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episodes
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that
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I've
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wanted
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to
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do
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for
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some
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time,
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and
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I've
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always
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held
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off
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doing
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it
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because
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I
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wanted
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to
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give
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it
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the
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attention
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it
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deserved.
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And
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last
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month,
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the
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month
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of
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August,
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I
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specifically
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wanted
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to
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focus
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on
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female
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fronted
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movies.
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I
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did
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episodes
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on
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Black
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Widow
4:14
Red,
4:14
Sonja
4:15
Barbie,
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and
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also
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a
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special
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episode
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on
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my
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favorite,
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Pride
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of
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Prejudice.
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And
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this
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episode
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was
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originally
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supposed
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to
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come
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out
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in
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August,
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but
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I
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got
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ill
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in
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July
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and
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then
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everything
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was
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pushed
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back
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a
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week,
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and
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so
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it
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just
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kind
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of
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plopped
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into
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September.
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But
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out
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of
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all
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of
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those,
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this
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movie
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is
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the
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most
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notorious.
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It's
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the
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biggest
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flop,
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and
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it's
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also
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the
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most
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divisive.
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This
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is
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one
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of
4:43
those
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movies
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where
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if
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you
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mention
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the
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name
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Showgirls
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to
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someone,
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they're
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either
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gonna
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turn
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around
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and
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say
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they
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love
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it
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because
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it's
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a
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camp
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cult
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classic,
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or
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they're
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gonna
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say,
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oh,
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I
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really
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don't
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like
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that
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movie.
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That
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movie
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is
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rubbish.
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So
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over
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the
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top.
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But
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I
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think
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that's
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kind
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of
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the
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point.
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Whether
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you
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love
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it,
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hate
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it,
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whether
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you
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think
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it's
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a
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satirical
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masterpiece
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or
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the
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biggest
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pile
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of
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doggy
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chow
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poop
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there
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is,
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there
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are
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bad
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movies
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and
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there
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are
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bad
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movies.
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Showgirls
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ostensibly
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isn't
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a
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good
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movie,
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so
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you
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could
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say
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it's
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bad.
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However,
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the
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difference
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between
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a
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bad
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movie
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and
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a
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bad
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movie
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is
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one
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is
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forgettable
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and
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one
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is
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not.
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Showgirls
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is
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never
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boring,
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never
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tedious,
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and
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never,
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ever
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forgettable.
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I
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hope
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you
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like
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this
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episode.
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I
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bought
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it
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at
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Versace.
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Here's
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the
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trailer
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for
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Showgirls.
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Noni
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Malone
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hitchhikes
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to
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Las
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Vegas,
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determined
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to
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make
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a
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name
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for
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herself
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after
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being
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robbed
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and
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almost
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hit
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by
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a
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car.
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She
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befriends
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Molly
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Abrams,
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a
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young
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seamstress
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who
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agrees
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to
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take
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Nomi
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in
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for
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a
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few
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weeks
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until
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she
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gets
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a
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job.
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Nomi
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finds
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work
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at
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Cheetahs,
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a
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local
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strip
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joint,
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but
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dreams
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of
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joining
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the
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Goddess
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show
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at
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the
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Stardust.
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When
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Molly
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works,
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Nomi
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is
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offered
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the
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opportunity
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to
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dance
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in
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the
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Chorus
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Line,
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but
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dreams
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of
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only
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being
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in
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one
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place,
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the
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star
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of
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the
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show.
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Unfortunately
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for
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Nomi,
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that
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part
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is
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already
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taken
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by
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the
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one,
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the
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only,
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Ms.
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Crystal
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Connors.
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Nomi
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makes
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it
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her
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mission
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to
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make
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it
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big
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at
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the
8:11
Stardust,
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no
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matter
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the
8:13
price.
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Let's
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run
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through
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the
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cast
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of
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this
8:16
movie.
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We
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have
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Elizabeth
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Berkley
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as
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Nomi
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Malone,
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Gina
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Gershon
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as
8:21
Crystal
8:22
Connors,
8:23
Kyle
8:23
McLachlan
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as
8:24
Zack
8:24
Carey,
8:25
Glenn
8:26
Plummer
8:26
as
8:27
James
8:27
Smith,
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Robert
8:28
Davi
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as
8:29
Al
8:30
Torres,
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Alan
8:31
Rushins
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as
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Tony
8:33
Moss,
8:33
and
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Gina
8:34
Ravera
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as
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Molly
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Abrams.
8:37
Showgirls
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was
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written
8:38
by
8:39
Joe
8:39
Eszterhas
8:40
and
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directed
8:41
by
8:41
Paul
8:41
Verhoeven.
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Now,
8:44
I'll
8:44
admit
8:44
straight
8:45
up,
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I
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misunderstood
8:47
and
8:47
misjudged
8:48
Showgirls.
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I
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originally
8:50
saw
8:50
it
8:51
for
8:51
the
8:51
reasons
8:51
mostly
8:52
everyone
8:52
else
8:52
saw.
8:53
The
8:53
over
8:53
the
8:53
top
8:54
acting,
8:54
the
8:54
bad
8:54
script,
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the
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weird
8:55
choices
8:56
for
8:56
direction,
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the
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tonal
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whiplash
8:59
culminating
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in
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a
9:00
sexual
9:00
assault
9:00
scene
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so
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atrocious
9:02
that
9:02
I
9:02
felt
9:03
like
9:03
any
9:03
grace
9:03
the
9:04
movie
9:04
did
9:04
have
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had
9:05
been
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eradicated
9:06
by
9:07
showing
9:07
that
9:07
degree
9:08
of
9:08
violence
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to
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a
9:09
character
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that
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is
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literally
9:10
the
9:11
nicest
9:11
one
9:11
in
9:12
the
9:12
entire
9:12
movie.
9:14
But
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the
9:15
thing
9:15
about
9:16
being
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a
9:16
movie
9:17
podcaster,
9:17
and
9:17
specifically
9:18
a
9:18
film
9:18
history
9:19
podcaster,
9:20
means
9:20
that
9:21
it's
9:21
my
9:21
job
9:21
to
9:21
go
9:22
beyond
9:22
that
9:23
and
9:23
honestly,
9:24
Showgirls
9:26
is
9:26
more
9:26
than
9:26
worthy
9:27
of
9:27
an
9:27
episode
9:28
because
9:28
Showgirls
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has
9:29
a
9:29
unique
9:30
place
9:30
in
9:30
cinema
9:31
history
9:31
that
9:32
goes
9:32
beyond
9:33
the
9:33
drama
9:34
and
9:34
the
9:34
sex
9:34
and
9:35
the
9:35
and
9:35
the
9:35
exploitation.
9:37
I
9:37
have
9:37
grown
9:37
to
9:38
become
9:38
quite
9:38
fond
9:38
of
9:38
Showgirls
9:39
for
9:39
everything
9:40
it
9:40
is,
9:41
for
9:41
everything
9:41
it
9:41
tried
9:42
to
9:42
be,
9:43
and
9:43
for
9:43
everything
9:43
it
9:44
isn't.
9:45
But
9:46
to
9:46
tell
9:46
the
9:46
story
9:46
of
9:46
Showgirls,
9:47
we
9:47
need
9:47
to
9:47
tell
9:48
the
9:48
stories
9:48
of
9:49
Paul
9:50
Verhoeven
9:50
an
9:50
Joe
9:50
Ezsterhas.
9:51
Both
9:51
have
9:52
been
9:52
featured
9:52
on
9:52
this
9:52
podcast
9:53
before,
9:53
together
9:54
for
9:54
Basic
9:55
Instinct,
9:55
which
9:55
is
9:55
episode
9:56
167
9:57
and
9:57
Verhoeven
9:58
for
9:58
Starship
9:58
Troopers
9:59
which
9:59
is
9:59
episode
10:00
147.
10:01
Verhoeven
10:02
have
10:02
made
10:02
his
10:02
name
10:03
with
10:03
sexually
10:03
explicit
10:04
dramas
10:05
in
10:05
his
10:05
native
10:05
the
10:06
Netherlands
10:06
like
10:07
Spetters
10:07
and
10:08
the
10:08
Oscar
10:08
nominated
10:09
Turkish
10:09
Delight.
10:10
Verhoeven
10:11
came
10:11
to
10:11
Hollywood
10:11
in
10:11
the
10:11
80s
10:12
and
10:12
became
10:12
the
10:12
go
10:13
to
10:13
director
10:14
for
10:14
big
10:14
budget
10:15
violent
10:15
satirical
10:16
visual
10:17
effects
10:17
layered
10:17
in
10:18
science
10:18
fiction
10:19
like
10:19
Robocop
10:20
and
10:20
Total
10:20
Recall.
10:21
Before
10:21
being
10:22
brought
10:22
on
10:22
board
10:22
to
10:23
direct
10:23
Basic
10:23
Instinct
10:24
by
10:24
Carolco,
10:26
Joe
10:26
Ezsterhas
10:27
had
10:27
co
10:27
wrote
10:28
the
10:28
script
10:28
for
10:28
Flashdance,
10:29
which
10:29
became
10:29
one
10:29
of
10:30
the
10:30
highest
10:30
grossing
10:31
films
10:31
of
10:31
1983
10:33
and
10:33
by
10:33
the
10:33
early
10:33
90s
10:34
he
10:34
was
10:34
the
10:34
highest
10:35
paid
10:35
writer
10:35
in
10:35
Hollywood.
10:36
Thanks
10:37
to
10:37
Basic
10:37
Instinct,
10:38
for
10:38
which
10:38
he
10:38
received
10:39
$3
10:40
million,
10:41
Basic
10:42
Instinct
10:42
became
10:42
the
10:42
ninth
10:43
highest
10:43
grossing
10:44
film
10:44
worldwide
10:44
of
10:45
1992
10:46
and
10:46
became
10:47
the
10:47
quintessential
10:48
erotic
10:48
thriller,
10:49
paying
10:49
homage
10:50
to
10:50
Alfred
10:50
Hitchcock
10:51
and
10:52
inspiring
10:52
many
10:53
imitators,
10:54
but
10:54
also
10:54
firing
10:54
up
10:55
controversy
10:55
for
10:56
its
10:56
depictions
10:56
of
10:57
bisexuality,
10:58
with
10:58
lesbian
10:58
and
10:59
bisexual
10:59
groups
11:00
protesting
11:00
the
11:00
movie.
11:02
But
11:02
lightning
11:02
struck
11:03
once
11:03
for
11:03
the
11:03
team
11:04
up
11:04
of
11:04
Verhoeven
11:05
and
11:05
Ezsterhas
11:05
so
11:06
it
11:06
could
11:06
strike
11:06
twice,
11:08
right?
11:09
The
11:09
problem
11:09
was
11:10
the
11:10
pair
11:10
had
11:11
had
11:11
a
11:11
falling
11:11
out
11:11
over
11:12
Basic
11:12
Instinct.
11:13
Joe
11:13
Ezsterhas
11:14
had
11:14
a
11:14
reputation
11:15
as
11:15
the
11:15
writer
11:16
of
11:16
provocative
11:17
sexually
11:18
explicit
11:18
screenplays,
11:19
but
11:19
when
11:20
Verhoeven
11:20
suggested
11:21
changes
11:21
to
11:21
the
11:21
script,
11:22
including
11:23
a
11:23
lesbian
11:23
sex
11:24
scene,
11:24
Ezsterhas
11:25
strongly
11:26
disagreed
11:26
with
11:26
the
11:26
changes
11:27
and
11:27
he
11:28
thought
11:28
them
11:28
exploitative.
11:30
Verhoeven
11:30
wanted
11:30
to
11:31
amplify
11:31
the
11:31
script's
11:32
most
11:32
controversial
11:33
elements,
11:33
but
11:34
Ezsterhas
11:34
felt
11:35
that
11:35
Verhoeven
11:35
was
11:35
pushing
11:36
the
11:36
sexual
11:36
content
11:37
beyond
11:38
what
11:38
was
11:38
necessary
11:38
for
11:39
the
11:39
story
11:39
and
11:40
into
11:40
exploitative
11:41
territory.
11:42
With
11:42
Verhoeven
11:43
and
11:43
willing
11:43
to
11:43
budge,
11:44
Eszterhas
11:45
and
11:45
producer
11:45
Erwin
11:46
Winkler
11:46
left
11:46
the
11:47
movie
11:48
a
11:48
year
11:48
later
11:48
though
11:49
after
11:49
Basic
11:49
Instinct
11:50
had
11:50
become
11:50
a
11:50
huge
11:51
success,
11:52
it
11:52
was
11:52
all
11:52
water
11:52
under
11:53
the
11:53
bridge
11:53
for
11:53
the
11:53
pair
11:54
and
11:54
they
11:54
went
11:54
to
11:55
lunch
11:55
in
11:55
Los
11:55
Angeles
11:56
with
11:56
indie
11:56
producer
11:57
Ben
11:57
Myron,
11:57
with
11:58
Ezsterhas
11:58
presenting
11:59
Verhoeven
11:59
with
12:00
a
12:00
couple
12:00
of
12:00
film
12:00
ideas
12:01
for
12:01
the
12:01
pair
12:01
to
12:01
work
12:02
on,
12:02
one
12:02
of
12:03
which
12:03
was
12:03
based
12:03
on
12:04
an
12:04
idea
12:04
by
12:04
Myron,
12:05
formerly
12:05
the
12:05
head
12:06
of
12:06
Roland
12:06
Joffe's
12:07
production
12:07
company
12:07
Lightmotif,
12:08
about
12:08
a
12:09
movie
12:09
set
12:09
in
12:09
Vegas
12:10
with
12:10
a
12:10
young
12:11
female
12:11
protagonist
12:12
who
12:12
starts
12:12
working
12:12
as
12:13
a
12:13
lap
12:13
dancer
12:14
and
12:14
then
12:14
gets
12:14
into
12:15
one
12:15
of
12:15
the
12:15
big
12:15
casino
12:16
shows.
12:17
And
12:17
the
12:17
idea
12:18
was
12:18
for
12:18
a
12:19
big,
12:19
extravagant
12:20
Las
12:20
Vegas
12:21
musical.
12:22
Verhoeven
12:23
loved
12:23
the
12:23
idea
12:23
of
12:23
emulating
12:24
the
12:24
Busby
12:25
Berkeley
12:25
musicals
12:26
that
12:26
he
12:26
loved.
12:27
And
12:27
producer
12:27
Charles
12:28
Evans
12:28
would
12:28
pay
12:28
Joe
12:29
Ezsterhas
12:29
a
12:30
$2
12:30
million
12:31
advance
12:31
in
12:32
November
12:32
1992
12:33
to
12:33
write
12:34
the
12:34
script
12:34
about
12:35
Las
12:35
Vegas
12:35
showgirls.
12:36
At
12:37
the
12:37
time,
12:37
one
12:37
of
12:37
the
12:37
highest
12:38
guaranteed
12:38
development
12:39
deals
12:39
ever
12:39
struck.
12:40
Ezsterhas
12:41
also
12:41
confirmed
12:42
Paul
12:42
dehoven
12:43
was
12:43
interested
12:43
to
12:44
direct
12:44
pending
12:45
his
12:45
approval
12:45
of
12:46
the
12:46
script.
12:47
And
12:47
November
12:47
1992
12:48
was
12:48
Ezsterhas's
12:49
lucky
12:49
month
12:50
because
12:50
two
12:51
weeks
12:51
earlier
12:51
he
12:51
had
12:52
sold
12:52
a
12:52
two
12:52
page
12:53
outline
12:53
for
12:54
the
12:54
movie
12:54
Jade
12:55
to
12:55
Paramount
12:56
for
12:56
a
12:56
potential
12:57
$2.4
12:58
million.
12:59
He
12:59
actually
13:00
received
13:00
$1.5
13:01
million
13:02
plus
13:02
$400,000
13:04
to
13:04
executively
13:04
produce.
13:05
Up
13:06
until
13:06
Shane
13:06
Black's
13:07
record
13:07
breaking
13:08
$4
13:08
million
13:09
for
13:09
the
13:09
long
13:09
Kiss
13:09
Good
13:09
Night
13:10
Ezsterhas
13:11
held
13:11
the
13:11
record
13:12
for
13:12
the
13:12
highest
13:13
paid
13:13
screenwriter
13:14
in
13:14
Hollywood.
13:15
The
13:15
script
13:15
that
13:15
Ezsterhas
13:16
would
13:16
show
13:16
Verhoeven
13:17
initially
13:17
wouldn't
13:18
excite
13:18
the
13:18
director,
13:19
though
13:19
he
13:19
found
13:20
it
13:20
an
13:20
original.
13:21
So
13:21
he
13:21
went
13:22
off
13:22
to
13:22
do
13:22
something
13:22
else.
13:23
Carolco
13:24
Pictures
13:24
were
13:24
making
13:24
a
13:25
big
13:25
movie
13:25
with
13:26
Arnold
13:26
Schwarzenegger.
13:27
Verhoeven
13:28
was
13:28
keen
13:28
to
13:28
reunite
13:29
because
13:29
Total
13:29
Recall
13:30
star
13:30
and
13:30
signed
13:31
on
13:31
to
13:31
direct.
13:32
Now,
13:32
if
13:33
you've
13:33
listened
13:33
to
13:33
my
13:33
episode
13:34
on
13:34
Cutthroat
13:34
island,
13:35
which
13:35
was
13:35
a
13:36
few
13:36
episodes
13:36
ago,
13:37
you'll
13:37
know
13:37
what's
13:38
coming
13:38
next
13:38
because
13:39
yes,
13:39
it
13:39
is
13:39
the
13:40
movie
13:40
that
13:40
you
13:40
are
13:40
thinking
13:41
it
13:41
is.
13:41
The
13:42
movie
13:42
in
13:42
question
13:42
was
13:43
Crusade.
13:44
They'd
13:45
started
13:45
building
13:45
sets
13:46
of
13:46
Jerusalem
13:47
in
13:47
Spain,
13:48
but
13:48
Carolco
13:48
was
13:49
also
13:49
spending
13:49
lots
13:50
of
13:50
money
13:50
on
13:51
its
13:51
big
13:51
budget
13:52
pirate
13:52
adventure,
13:54
historical
13:54
epic
13:55
or
13:55
Pirate
13:56
Schwarzenegger
13:57
or
13:58
Geena
13:58
Davis.
13:59
Now
13:59
Crusade
14:00
was
14:00
more
14:00
expensive.
14:01
So
14:01
Crusade
14:02
was
14:02
eventually
14:03
cancelled.
14:03
But
14:04
with
14:04
the
14:04
cancellation,
14:05
Verhoeven
14:05
became
14:06
available
14:07
once
14:07
more.
14:07
And
14:08
despite
14:09
Carolco
14:09
being
14:09
in
14:10
extreme
14:11
financial
14:11
dire
14:12
straits,
14:13
he
14:13
agreed
14:14
favortoCorelco
14:15
cofounderMarioCasar
14:17
Carolco
14:17
he
14:18
founder
14:18
Mario
14:19
Kassar
14:19
becaus
14:20
he
14:20
wanted
14:21
to
14:21
help
14:21
save
14:22
Carolco
14:22
happenisKurolkoditchingtheNC17showgirlsinfavorof
14:27
Carolco
14:27
ditching
14:28
the
14:28
NC17
14:29
showgirls
14:29
in
14:31
IwouldsuggestlisteningtoCutthroatislandformoreonwhat
14:35
happenedtothatcrowdpleasingPG13pirateadventure.Trysayingthatreallyfast.
14:40
ButKuralkareallyhadnochoice
14:42
buttosellShowgirlstotryandgetoutofitsCrippling
14:45
But
14:46
Carolco
14:46
really
14:46
had
14:47
no
14:47
inpreproduction.Korolkowould
14:49
thengo
14:50
bankruptin1995.But
14:52
backtoShowgirls
14:53
becausePaul
14:53
to
14:54
Chargeurs
14:54
in
14:55
pre
14:55
production.
14:55
Carolco
14:56
would
14:56
then
14:57
go
14:57
bankrupt
14:57
in
14:58
1995.
14:58
But
14:59
back
14:59
to
15:00
Showgirls
15:00
because
15:01
Paul
15:01
Verhoeven
15:02
wasn't
15:03
taken
15:03
with
15:04
the
15:04
original
15:05
story
15:05
and
15:06
insisted
15:06
BetteDavisandAnneBaxteraswellasMarilynMonroeinoneofher
15:10
early
15:11
roles.Theideaforit
15:13
beingamusicalwasnixedwhenit
15:14
becameobviousthatthe
15:15
reallivesofShowgirlswasn'tallfun,upbeatmusicals,butoftenconsistedofabuse,physical,mental
15:23
and
15:24
sexual.Andeachday
15:26
theywerejustlivingtheirday,
15:28
taking
15:28
thecash,cashingthechecksand
15:30
showingthepayingcustomerswhattheywantedtosee.
15:33
Esterhaus
15:34
gotintouchwithaLasVegasreporterandexplainedtheyweremaking
15:38
amovieaboutLasVegasShowgirlsand
15:41
shegothimin
15:42
touchwith
15:42
avarietyofyoungwomenwhoworkedinthe
15:44
industry.HeandVerhoevehadinterviewed
15:47
see.
15:47
Ezsterhas
15:48
got
15:49
in
15:49
touch
15:50
with
15:50
a
15:51
Las
15:51
Vegas
15:51
reporter
15:52
and
15:52
explained
15:53
anderotic
15:54
dancerswhoworkedinVegasclubs,shows,strip
15:57
clubsandondance
15:59
shows.Thestoriesfromthesewomendirectly
16:02
influenced
16:02
thedirectionofthe
16:03
He
16:04
and
16:04
Verhoeven
16:04
musicisstillimportanttotheshows
16:06
inthe
16:06
movie,theideaofitbeingafullblownmusicalwasquickly
16:11
dropped.Thatdidn't
16:12
meanthe
16:12
musicalinfluencesweredropped.ThenumberwherethecharacterAnniewasinjuredwasdirectlybasedon
16:18
thelookandstyleoftheBusby
16:20
Berkeleymusicals
16:21
thatVerhoevenloved.And
16:23
inascriptsofullofcharacters
16:24
who
16:24
would
16:24
haveit
16:25
outfor
16:25
NomiandTroy
16:26
to
16:26
break
16:26
out.ThecharacterofMollywasintroducedinalaterscripttobetheonepersontrulyonNomi'sside,ignoringthe
16:33
factthatno
16:34
oneeverinvitesanerratic,strangeperson
16:36
tolivewiththemafteronlyknowing
16:38
themfor10
16:38
minutes.Mollyisaprecious,precioussoul.Andwhileherrapesceneishonestly
16:44
theworstpartofthewholemovie,Esterhousewasso
16:47
horrifiedbyalloftheVegaswomen's
16:49
reportedassaults
16:50
andrapesthatheknewhe
16:52
neededtorepresent
16:53
thathorrificsideoftheirlifebecauseit
16:56
wasspeakingfromthe
16:57
experiencesofsomanydancersand
17:00
artistsinVegas.Andhere'sthething.I'vebeentoVegas.Yes,it'sbrightlycolored,vivid,loud,
17:08
andit
17:08
giveseverythingyoucould
17:09
possiblywantorneed.Andfamiliesdoholidaytherewithchildren.Butthere
17:14
isablatantly
17:15
Ezsterhas
17:15
was
17:15
so
17:16
horrified
17:16
by
17:17
all
17:17
of
17:18
the
17:18
Vegas
17:19
getoutontothestreetswiththevansadvertisingstrippers,thesex
17:23
workershuddledinthecorners
17:24
ofcasinosandtheleafletters
17:26
smackingtheirleafletsontheirhandstoenticeyoutotakeone.Theycan'tgive
17:30
themtoyou,but
17:31
youcan
17:31
takethem.Andtheyareusuallyadvertisingnew
17:34
danceshows.Bearin
17:36
mindit
17:36
hasbeen15
17:37
yearssinceIwenttoVegas,
17:38
soitmaybedifferentnow,
17:40
butthat'sthesideofVegaspeoplewhowatchmoviesdon'tusually
17:44
see.AndShowgirlsisat
17:46
leastattemptingtoexposethatsideofthecity.After
17:50
doingallthisresearch,Eszterhousewent
17:52
offtowriteascriptinHawaii.Headmitsto
17:55
beingabithighon
17:56
marijuanaatthe
17:57
time,buthe
17:58
crafted
17:58
astoryaboutagrittyandambitiouswomanwhowants
18:01
to
18:01
becomeanAliststripper
18:03
inLasVegas.
18:04
Esterhaus
18:05
imaginedagritty
18:06
andgrounded
18:07
filmbasedinthereal
18:08
lifeexperiencesofthe
18:10
variouswomenhe'dmet.Verhoeven
18:13
obviouslyviewed
18:14
itslightlydifferently.Hewanted
18:16
to
18:16
makeasatireofthe
18:17
entertainmentindustry
18:19
withhisprevious
18:19
movieslikeTotal
18:20
Recalland
18:21
Robocopbeing
18:22
extremelyviolent
18:24
andthismovie
18:25
in
18:25
particular,showingthatweas
18:26
that
18:27
side
18:27
of
18:28
the
18:28
city.
18:29
After
18:29
doing
18:30
all
18:30
this
18:31
research,
18:31
Ezsterhas
18:32
went
18:32
off
18:32
explorewhy
18:33
thatwas,Verhoeven
18:35
endedupdeferring70%ofhis
18:37
$6milliondirector'sfee,dependingon
18:40
if
18:40
thefilm
18:41
turneda
18:41
profitornot.Andmanyofthemovie'sweirdestandmostcriticizedpartswerebasedonthosereallifeexperiences,
18:49
fromicecubesonnipples
18:51
andeventheDoggyChow
18:52
conversation.One
18:54
ofthedancersEsterhaasinterviewed
18:56
wasstrugglingformoneyandwouldeatdogfoodjusttobeabletoeat.Butoncethescript
19:01
wasfinishedandeveryonewasremotelyhappywithit,theyhadtostartcastingandanyactresswho
19:07
wanted
19:08
the
19:08
leadrolehadto
19:10
bemanythings.They
19:10
had
19:11
tobe
19:11
intheirearly20s,beabletoactanddanceandbeokaywithfullfrontalnudity.Andnot
19:18
just
19:18
afleetingglanceoffullfrontal,but
19:20
bealmostconstantlyfull
19:22
frontal
19:23
nude.Verhoevenspecificallywanted
19:25
someonealist.
19:27
An
19:27
incrediblelist
19:28
ofbignameactors
19:29
auditionedfortheroleofNomi,includingPamelaAnderson,DrewBarrymore,
19:34
DeniseRichardson,Angelina
19:36
Jolie,JenniferLopezandCharlize
19:38
Theron.Theronwasturneddownfortherole,
19:41
which
19:41
in
19:41
hindsightwasprobably
19:42
agood
19:43
thing.RichardswasinsteadcastfortheHobanStarship
19:46
Troopers.Barrymoreturnedtheroledowndueto
19:49
theexcessivenudity.Andthename
19:51
onthemirrorat
19:52
the
19:52
Stardust
19:52
that's
19:52
rippedoffinfavor
19:53
ofNaomiisDru,presumablyinreferenceto
19:56
Barrymore.JenniferLopez's
19:58
failedauditionforShowgirls
20:00
wouldleadtohergettingherflowersforhustlers24yearslater,aswouldPamelaAndersonfor
20:05
theLastShowgirl.
20:07
ProducerCharlesEvanswouldberesponsible
20:09
for
20:10
findingthe
20:11
then22yearoldElizabethBerkeley,fresh
20:14
offherstarringrolein
20:15
teen
20:16
sitcomSavedby
20:17
Verhoeven
20:17
specifically
20:18
wanted
20:18
someone
20:19
a
20:19
list.
20:20
An
20:21
incredible
20:21
list
20:22
of
20:22
big
20:23
name
20:23
actors
20:24
auditioned
20:24
for
20:25
the
20:25
role
20:26
of
20:26
Nomi,
20:27
including
20:27
Pamela
20:28
Anderson,
20:28
Drew
20:29
Barrymore,
20:29
Denise
20:30
Richards,
20:30
Angelina
20:31
Jolie,
20:31
Jennifer
20:32
Lopez
20:32
advisedhernottodoit.
20:34
Theron
20:35
was
20:35
turned
20:35
down
20:36
for
20:36
the
20:37
role,
20:37
which
20:37
in
20:38
hindsight
20:38
was
20:39
probably
20:39
a
20:39
good
20:40
thing.
20:40
Richards
20:40
was
20:41
instead
20:41
cast
20:42
for
20:42
Verhoeven's
20:42
Starshi
20:43
Troopers.
20:44
totheHoven,whowasimpressedbyherconfidence
20:47
andthefactshetold
20:48
Verhoevenhis
20:49
search
20:49
wasoverandshe
20:51
wastheir
20:51
Nomi.Verhoevenhad
20:53
in
20:53
favor
20:54
of
20:54
Naomi
20:55
is
20:55
Drew,
20:56
presumably
20:56
in
20:57
reference
20:57
to
20:58
Barrymore.
20:58
Jennifer
20:59
Lopez's
20:59
failed
21:00
audition
21:00
for
21:01
Showgirls
21:01
would
21:02
lead
21:02
to
21:03
her
21:03
getting
21:04
inLosAngeles,LasVegasand
21:06
NewYorkandinterviewingstrippers
21:08
atvenues
21:08
for
21:09
the
21:09
Last
21:10
Showgirl.
21:10
Producer
21:11
Charles
21:11
Evans
21:12
would
21:12
be
21:13
responsible
21:13
for
21:14
finding
21:14
the
21:14
then
21:15
22
21:15
year
21:16
old
21:16
Elizabeth
21:17
Berkley,
21:17
fresh
21:18
off
21:18
Verhoevenhad
21:19
neverseenSavedbythe
21:20
Bellpriortocasting
21:21
her
21:21
and
21:22
admitsthatheprobablyshouldhavebecausecastingherinapartsodifferenttohowaudiencesknewher
21:28
likelyaffectednot
21:30
onlytheboxoffice
21:30
forthe
21:31
Spano
21:31
just
21:31
for
21:32
her.
21:32
Berkley
21:32
had
21:33
heard
21:33
of
21:33
the
21:34
role
21:34
of
21:34
Nomi,
21:35
but
21:35
inchargeonscreen
21:36
havenoconcern
21:37
foranywoman'sreputation,sowhyshouldtheones
21:40
Berkley
21:40
felt
21:41
a
21:42
connection
21:43
to
21:43
the
21:44
character
21:44
and
21:44
personally
21:45
called
21:45
Evans,
21:46
introduced
21:46
herself
21:46
as
21:47
Nomi
21:47
and
21:48
auditioned
21:48
for
21:49
him.
21:49
Evans
21:50
was
21:50
so
21:51
andthedanceensemblehired
21:52
for
21:52
to
21:53
Verhoeven,
21:53
who
21:54
was
21:54
impressed
21:54
phase,
21:55
ShivannadidDemiMooreatoneof
21:56
theclubsinLosAngeleswhere
21:58
Moorewas
21:59
conductingresearchforherroleinStriptease.And
22:02
obviously
22:02
at
22:02
thetime
22:03
DemiMoorewas
22:04
one
22:04
ofthe
22:04
biggestnames
22:05
lightning
22:05
can
22:06
indeed
22:06
strike
22:06
twice.
22:07
Berkley
22:07
even
22:08
aprettygoodroleforayoungwoman.Atthetime,everyyoungactressinHollywood
22:13
hadtriedtoget
22:14
this
22:14
role.Berkeley'smotherwascertainthatherdaughterwouldgetan
22:18
Oscarnomination.Andthatsoundssillytosay
22:21
from
22:22
her
22:22
agent,
22:23
Berkley
22:23
met
22:24
with
22:24
toElizabethBerkeley
22:26
thatthiswasgoing
22:27
tobea
22:27
breakthroughforheracting
22:29
career.Andit's
22:30
alsosafe
22:30
tosayshe
22:31
would
22:31
be
22:31
totally
22:32
unpreparedandblindsidedbywhatwouldhappentoherafterthereleaseofthis
22:37
movie.
22:38
WhileMadonna
22:39
andSharonStonewereeyedfor
22:41
theroleoftheerstwhilebisexualstaroftheshow,
22:44
CrystalConnors,that
22:45
Berkley's
22:46
own
22:46
reputation.
22:47
But
22:48
McDermott
22:48
wasthefirst
22:49
choiceforZach,but
22:50
he
22:50
turned
22:51
therole
22:51
downand
22:52
KyleMacLachlan,
22:53
whowasahuge
22:53
fanofVerhoeven,specificallyRobocop,wascast
22:57
inamoviehethoughtwould
22:58
bedarkand
22:59
edgyanddisturbingandreal.Speaking
23:03
of
23:04
dark,edgy,disturbingandreal,GinaRiverawassentthescriptbyheragent
23:09
whileworking
23:10
asa
23:10
classicallytraineddancer.She
23:12
film.
23:13
During
23:14
this
23:14
preparational
23:15
phase,
23:16
she
23:16
ran
23:16
into
23:16
Dem
23:17
wassupposedtoauditionfortheroleofCrystal,butas
23:20
anAfroLatinaactor,sheknewthecastingdirectorwouldnevercast
23:24
awomanofcolor
23:25
as
23:25
the
23:25
colead,so
23:27
insteadshereadforthe
23:28
partofMollyawell
23:29
oftheblack
23:30
myth'sfriend
23:31
trope.Shewascastas
23:32
Nomi'sonlytruefriend.AndwhileRiverararelyspeaksaboutthemovie,she
23:38
mentionedin
23:38
aninterviewwithyahoo
23:39
for
23:39
tried
23:40
to
23:40
get
23:41
this
23:41
role.
23:42
Berkley's
23:43
mother
23:43
was
23:44
certain
23:44
that
23:44
WildNightsoutinRenoand
23:46
relished
23:47
theopportunityto
23:48
work
23:48
withPaulVerhoeven,a
23:50
directorsheinitiallyadmired.Tothisday,
23:53
to
23:54
Elizabeth
23:54
Berkley
23:55
that
23:55
once,atthefilm's1995
23:58
LApremiere,and
23:59
she
23:59
purposelyleftduringthe
24:01
rape
24:01
scene.She
24:02
foundthesceneincrediblytraumatictofilm
24:05
and
24:05
endedupshootingfor
24:07
ninehoursina
24:08
deeply
24:08
unpleasantandpainful
24:10
experiencethatleft
24:11
herbruisedandvulnerable.
24:13
Even
24:13
asthefilmbecameembracedasacultfavorite,shepurposely
24:17
remainedonthesidelines,decliningtoappearat
24:20
publiceventsorevendiscussherexperiencein
24:23
the
24:23
first
24:23
choice
24:24
for
24:24
Zack,
24:24
but
24:25
he
24:25
turned
24:25
the
24:26
movieifsheunderstoodtheordealshewouldhavetogo
24:29
through.Verhoeven
24:30
wantedthescenetofeelrawandbrutal.
24:33
Hedirected
24:34
themale
24:34
actors,encouragingthem
24:35
toberoughandoverzealouswithRivera,whichled
24:39
edgy,
24:39
disturbing
24:39
and
24:40
real,
24:40
Gina
24:41
Ravera
24:41
was
24:41
sent
24:42
the
24:42
script
24:43
by
24:43
her
24:44
agent
24:44
Herjawwasinjured
24:45
andremainedso
24:46
foryearsafterwards.ShootingforShowgirlstartedinNevada
24:50
inOctober1994andlastedfourandahalfmonths,
24:54
finishingin
24:55
March1995.It
24:58
was
24:58
shot
24:58
at
24:58
Cristal,
24:59
but
24:59
as
24:59
an
25:00
Afro
25:00
Latina
25:01
actor,
25:01
and
25:01
Casino,whichwasdemolished
25:03
in2017,andtheformerStardust
25:05
Hotel
25:06
andCasino,theForum
25:07
Shop,St.Caesar's
25:08
palace,
25:09
aswellasusing
25:10
theexteriorsoftheRealCheetahsToplessClub.EverythingelsewasfilmedinLA
25:15
onasoundstage.The
25:17
while
25:17
Ravera
25:18
rarely
25:18
2006,butinterestingly,saved
25:21
bytheBell
25:22
WeddingInLasVegaswas
25:24
alsofilmedattheStardustataroundthesametimeandJessieSpano
25:29
didmakeabriefcameointhatTVmovie.BerkeleyhadcommitmentstoShowgirlsbutmanaged
25:35
to
25:35
film
25:35
asmallcameoforherSaved
25:38
bytheBellcolleagues.Duringthistime,Berkeleyreportedlydancedforupto16hoursaday,ofteneithercompletelynude
25:46
orpartiallynudesevendaysaweek.Andshealsoreportedlynever
25:51
usedBodydouble.Consideringthis
25:53
isamovieknownforitsfullfrontal
25:55
nudityandbarrageofbarebreasts.Italsocontainssomeincredible
26:00
costumedesignincludingthefringeleatherjacketandhighwaistedjeanswornbyNaomiwhenwemeether
26:06
hitchhiking,thestagelooksdrippingincrystalsandofcoursetheiconicblack
26:11
miniVersacedress.ThecostumedesignerwasEllen
26:15
MirojnikwhoalsoworkedonBasic
26:17
InstinctandFatal
26:18
Attraction
26:19
aswellasSpeed.I'msurethatwon'tcomeupinabit.Shedesigned
26:23
elaboratechiffontrimmedgowns,rhinestonecowboyhatsandchainmailhaltersets.
26:28
ForCrystal.
26:30
She
26:30
gave
26:30
Mollycutedungareesandsundresses.Miroznik
26:34
overzealous
26:34
with
26:35
Ravera,
26:35
which
26:36
led
26:36
to
26:37
William
26:37
Shockley
26:38
playing
26:38
Andrew
26:39
Carver,
26:40
accidentally
26:40
hitting
26:41
Ravera
26:41
on
26:42
Theytookinspiration
26:43
fromearly90sVersacecreating
26:45
elaboratejeweledseethroughbodystockings.
26:48
Andeven
26:48
thenVerhoeventhought
26:50
they
26:50
weretoocoveredupand
26:52
ripped
26:52
thebody
26:52
stockings
26:53
up.Versaceactually
26:55
refusedtosupply
26:56
Luxor
26:56
Casino,
26:57
Therewasno
26:58
product
26:58
placement
26:59
agreementinplaceandnobigname
27:01
actresstopersuadethemto
27:03
doit.SoMirozhnikwentoutand
27:05
boughtthe
27:06
dress
27:06
out
27:06
ofthebudgetfromtheboutiquetheBellagio
27:09
Hotel.Versacedid
27:10
have
27:11
tosignoffonthemispronunciationofthenamethough,whichwasapparentlysuggested
27:16
byElizabethBerkeley,the
27:18
iconicposter
27:19
imagewasbasedonSlovakianphotographerTono
27:22
Stano's1992photo
27:24
Sense,which
27:25
depictedmodelIlona
27:27
Novikovadrapedinblackfabricagainstablackbackgroundwith
27:31
cameo
27:32
in
27:32
that
27:33
TV
27:33
movie.
27:34
Berkley
27:34
knownforhisblackandwhitephotosof
27:36
scantilyclapped
27:37
women.Senseis
27:39
saidtosymbolizethereemergenceofEastern
27:41
Europe
27:42
from
27:42
time,
27:43
Berkley
27:43
reportedly
27:44
danced
27:45
bought
27:45
by
27:45
MGMStudios
27:47
andtheycommissionedasimilarphotoastheposterfor
27:50
Showgirls.
27:52
Anyway,itistimetosegueintotheobligatoryKeanureferenceofthisepisodeandifyoudon'tknowwhatthatis,
27:57
it'swhereIlinkthemoviethatarefeaturingwith
28:00
KeanuReevesfor
28:01
no
28:02
reasonotherthanheisgenuinelythebestof
28:04
men.Andthiswasso
28:06
remarkably
28:06
easy.NotonlydidImention
28:08
Ella,Mirochnik,and
28:09
by
28:09
Nomi
28:10
when
28:10
GlennPlummerisinthismovie.Andifyou
28:13
don't
28:13
knowthelink
28:14
betweenKeanu
28:14
andGlennPlummer,GlennPlummerisinSpeed.Heistheguyin
28:19
theconvertiblecarthatJackTravencommandeerson
28:22
thefreewayinordertogetto
28:24
the
28:24
bus.AndGlennPlummer
28:26
isgenuinelyone
28:27
ofthemostmemorablesidecharacters
28:29
inthe
28:29
movie.Idon't
28:30
believehe'sevengivenaname
28:31
inthefirstSpeedmovie.Ithinkhe
28:33
getsanameinSpeedtoo,
28:34
butthatis
28:35
Cristal.
28:36
She
28:36
gave
28:36
Molly
28:37
cute
28:37
dungarees
28:38
and
28:38
sundresses.
28:39
Mirojnik
28:40
and
28:40
was
28:41
goingtobewritingsongsfortheShowgirlsoundtrack.However,Princewouldonlysupplysomeofhisexisting
28:48
songs
28:48
for
28:48
themovie,namely
28:50
319andI'mnotGoingtobeableto
28:52
pronouncethisRipoptheGoddessZipper.IhavenoideaifI
28:56
got
28:56
thatright,butneitherappeared
28:58
ontheofficialmoviesoundtrack.DaveStewartfromtheEurythmicscomposedthefilm'sscoreaswellaswriting
29:05
themusic
29:05
forthebigStardust
29:07
shows,and
29:07
thesoundtrack
29:08
alsoincludesaversionofDavidBowie's
29:10
I'mAfraidofAmericansandNewSkinby
29:14
Susieandthe
29:14
Banshees.Sothisis
29:17
Mirojnik
29:17
episode'sgonnagetabitrisque,shall
29:20
we
29:20
the
29:21
budget
29:21
from
29:22
the
29:22
boutique
29:23
the
29:23
Bellagio
29:24
Hotel.
29:24
Versace
29:25
did
29:25
have
29:26
to
29:26
sign
29:27
off
29:27
on
29:28
the
29:28
mispronunciation
29:29
of
29:29
the
29:30
name
29:30
though,
29:31
which
29:31
was
29:32
apparently
29:32
suggested
29:33
by
29:33
Elizabeth
29:33
Berkley,
29:34
the
29:34
iconic
29:35
poster
29:35
image
29:36
was
29:36
based
29:37
on
29:38
Slovakian
29:38
photographer
29:39
Tono
29:39
Stano's
29:40
1992
29:41
photo
29:41
Sense,
29:42
which
29:42
depicted
29:43
model
29:44
Ilona
29:44
Novakova
29:45
draped
29:46
in
29:46
black
29:47
fabric
29:47
against
29:48
a
29:49
UStoaccommodatethefamilymarket.Butthenthere'sothermoviesthatbasicallyeschew
29:54
thePG13ratinganddecide
29:57
to
29:57
goforanR
29:58
ratingonpurpose.Showgirlsistheraremoviethatwas
30:02
notonlyreleasedasNC17intheUSwhichisgenerallyconsideredboxoffice
30:07
poison,butitwasalwaysplannedtobeNC17.PaulVerhoevenrefusedtodothemovie
30:15
if
30:15
itwasn't,andthereasonwasbecausehehadsuch
30:18
anightmarewiththeMPAAovertheratingofBasicInstinct.BasicInstincthadtobesubmittedtotheMPAAeighttimestogetthe
30:27
requiredRrating.
30:30
Verhoevenhadalongconversation
30:31
withheadoftristarMikeMedavoy,who
30:34
told
30:34
himtheycouldmakeBasicInstinctNC17and
30:37
itmightmake
30:38
money,ortheycouldrateitRandit
30:40
I
30:41
mention
30:41
Ellen
30:41
Mirojnik,
30:43
Now
30:43
obviously,
30:43
BasicInstinctwentonto
30:44
gross$352millionworldwide.
30:47
Buttheprocessofcuttingandresubmitting
30:50
wasan
30:50
unpleasantexperienceforVerhoeven,an
30:53
experiencehewasn'tkeentorepeat.Andso
30:55
Showgirls
30:56
wasdesignedtobeNC17.Hedidn'twanttofightwiththeMPAAovertheshowingat
31:03
breastsorfull
31:04
frontalnaked
31:05
women,
31:06
becausethesedancers,theyweregoingtobe
31:08
nakedalot.
31:09
Strippersdotend
31:10
tostrip.Anddistributor
31:13
NC17wasoriginallycreatedin
31:15
1990asa
31:17
supposedlystigmafreealternativetotheprevious
31:21
Xrating.But
31:23
sincethenstudios
31:24
have
31:24
beenterrifiedofthoseinitialswhichstandfornochildrenunder17.Basically
31:30
becauseit
31:31
alienateahugechunkofthemoviegoingpopulation.Manystudioshave
31:35
actuallycontractuallyobligated
31:37
directorstoavoidit.MGMwas
31:41
certain
31:41
theratingwouldn'tputpeopleoff
31:43
becausethiswas
31:44
thelatestPaulVerhoeven
31:45
movie.They
31:46
never
31:46
insisteditwascutanyfurtherforShowgirls,
31:50
MGMdecidedtogo
31:52
allinonthat
31:53
NC17
31:54
rating,
31:55
releasingatrailersuggestingthemoviewastoorisquetotemptpeopletogo
32:00
watchit.JoeESAHousewouldalsoencourage
32:02
youngsterstogetafakeIDtowatchit,
32:05
whichobviouslysunk
32:07
likealeadballoon.MGMworetheNC17
32:10
and
32:10
New
32:11
Skin
32:11
by
32:12
Siousxie
32:12
and
32:12
the
32:13
Banshees.
32:13
intoamarketingbonanza,including
32:16
shipping250,000
32:17
8minute
32:19
sneak
32:19
preview
32:19
tapesfeaturingscenestoonaughtyto
32:22
showintheatertrailers,twovideostores
32:25
togiveawayas
32:26
freerentals.Therewas
32:28
alsoaninteractiveadultsonlywebsite,oneofthe
32:31
firstin
32:32
the
32:32
relativeinfancy
32:33
oftheInternet,whichhad1millionclicksadayto
32:37
lookatracyonset
32:39
photos
32:40
thatprobablytookseveralminutesto
32:41
downloadonadialupmodem.Thesiteregularlycrashedandthey
32:45
hadto
32:46
createnewservicetodeal
32:47
withthedemand.Thewebsitecarrieda
32:50
warningthatthematerialwasforover17s.However,people
32:54
quicklyclicked,nopunintended,
32:56
that
32:56
alltheyneededtodowas
32:58
clicktoseephotosthattheywantedto
33:01
see.
33:01
Andwiththat,Showgirlsalsodrew
33:04
severalprotestson
33:06
itsrelease,includingbymoralityinmedia,withitspresidentstating,quote,greatdrama
33:12
oftendealswith
33:13
life's
33:13
underside,
33:14
butitis
33:15
atrulygreat
33:16
story,producer
33:17
andperformers
33:18
thatmakeforgreatdrama.Notwallto
33:21
wallnudity,vulgarityandhardcoresex,unquote.Headdedthattheprotestprobably
33:27
wouldattractmoreattentiontothemovie,butendedquote,Ithink
33:31
peopleshouldprotesttomgm,to
33:34
localtheaters,
33:35
andtothe
33:35
newspapersand
33:36
televisionstationsthatrunthead.Whatfinallygot
33:39
metospeakout
33:40
onthisis
33:41
thewaythey'remarketingthefilm.
33:42
Even
33:43
ifthefilmhas
33:44
some
33:44
legitimacytoit,they'remarketingitforitstrash.I'mnotcontestingsomeone's
33:49
righttomakethefilm.WhatI'mcontesting
33:51
isMGM'sdecisiontopromoteitand
33:54
marketitlikeaporno
33:55
film,unquote.Aswithmostoftheseprotests,the
33:59
protesters
34:00
probablyneveractuallysawthemovieinthefirstplace,butnevertheless,Showgirlswasthefirst
34:05
major
34:06
studio
34:06
filmtobereleasedwithanNC17rating
34:09
since1990sHenryandJuneanditopenedon
34:13
1388
34:15
screens,still
34:17
thehighestnumberforanNC17movie.Onitsreleaseon
34:21
22
34:22
September1995,itopenedsecond
34:25
attheboxoffice
34:26
intheUSbehindSeven,which
34:28
wasactuallyapretty
34:29
meanfeatconsideringafew
34:31
cinemas,especiallyinthe
34:33
Americansouth,had
34:34
refused
34:34
toshowit.
34:36
Showgirlsdroppedtofifthinitssecondweekand
34:38
wasoutof
34:39
thetop10byitsfourthweek.But
34:41
here'sthe
34:41
thing.Lessthanayearlaterin1996,
34:44
MGMRereleased
34:46
itinUScinemasas
34:48
amidnightmovieandShowgirlshas
34:50
hadsomewhatofanincredibleafterlife,especially
34:54
inthe
34:55
way
34:55
itwasembracedby
34:56
the
34:56
LGBTQcommunity,
34:58
withdragqueenhostedscreeningscontinuingtobeatraditiontoday.Onits
35:03
$45million
35:05
budget,Showgirlsgrossed
35:06
$20.4milliondomesticallyandwasclassed
35:10
as
35:10
aboxofficeflop.Buttheshowmustgoon.Girls
35:14
andShowgirlshadgaineda
35:16
certainnotorietythat
35:18
thehomevideomarket
35:19
wasprime
35:20
toflaunt.Thanksto
35:22
thehomevideomarket,Showgirlsisnolonger
35:25
a
35:25
boxofficeflop,grossingover
35:27
$100millioninrentalsandpurchases,includingthe
35:31
one
35:31
Imadeforthispodcast.Buttherewasstilltheissueoverstoresthat
35:36
wouldn'tstockNC17VHS
35:39
tapes.PaulVerhoevenagreedtoprepareanRratededition
35:43
foritshomevideo
35:44
releasefor
35:45
thosestores.ThisEddieisthreeminutesshorterandon2January1996ShowgirlswasreleasedonVHS
35:54
intwo
35:54
versions.Adirector'sRratedversionforrentaloutletsincludingbig
35:59
stores
35:59
likeBlockbusterandHollywoodVideo,
36:02
andtheoriginalNC17ratedversion.Butthat's
36:06
notallforShowgirls.It
36:07
wasreleasedon
36:08
DVDin2000.Of
36:10
alloftheDVDsMGMsthatwere
36:12
released,Showgirls
36:13
isthehighestgrossingMGMDVD
36:16
ofalltime.It'sbeen
36:18
rereleasedastheVIPeditionin2004which
36:22
includesgameslikePinthePastiesontheShowgirlanda
36:26
commentaryfromwriterandsuperfanDavidSchmader.Italsohadfullyexposededitionin2007,a
36:33
15thanniversarysensationaleditionin2010it
36:38
wasrestored
36:38
in
36:38
4Kin
36:39
2016andreleasedinUltraHD
36:42
BluRayin2020.Now,
36:45
criticswere
36:46
not
36:46
kindtoShowgirlsatthetimeofitsrelease.Itcurrentlyhasa24%onrottentomatoes,summarizedasvile,contemptible,garishand
36:55
misogynistic.Andthat
36:57
mightjustexactlybeShowgirl'spoint.RogerEbert
37:01
wouldgive
37:01
ita
37:02
2outof4,butstate
37:03
itwasawasteofaperfectlygoodNC17rating.EmpirewroteShowgirls
37:09
wouldbeoffensiveifithadn'tbeenhyped,butithas.The
37:13
WashingtonPost'sRitaKempleycalledthefilmanovercoatmovieformenwhodon'twantto
37:18
be
37:18
seen
37:18
goingtoa
37:19
Pornotheater,
37:20
andVariety'sToddMcCarthysaidwatchingthefilmwas
37:23
akintobeing
37:24
knee
37:25
hauledthroughcesspoolforamovie.Iunderstand
37:29
not
37:30
likingsomething,butreallydramatic
37:32
much.Didyou
37:33
studyfilmcriticismattheNomiMaloneSchoolofOverreaction?Itwasnotimeatall,though,beforepeopledidfind
37:40
awaytoenjoy
37:41
Showgirls.
37:42
Inherreviewofthefilm,theNewYorkTimesJanetMaslinsuggestedShowgirls
37:47
wasaninstantcampclassic,andit's
37:50
worthnotingthatmanyofthereviewsonRottenTomatoes
37:54
areactuallyfairlyrecentreviews.
37:57
ItisalsoworthaddingthatShowgirlswasthewinner
38:00
ofA
38:00
thenrecordseven
38:02
Golden
38:02
RaspberryAwardsfrom
38:04
arecord
38:04
13nominations,whichstillstands,includingWorst
38:08
Picture,WorstActressfor
38:09
Elizabeth
38:10
Berkeley,Worst
38:11
Directorfor
38:12
PaulDe
38:12
Hoven,
38:13
WorstScreenplayforJoeEsdhouse,WorstNewStarforElizabethBerkeley,WorstScreen
38:18
Couple
38:19
forany
38:19
combinationoftwopeopleortwo
38:21
body
38:21
Parts,andWorstOriginal
38:23
SongWalk
38:24
intotheWind.PaultheHoevensurprisedeveryonebyappearing
38:27
inpersonatthe
38:29
Razzies
38:29
ceremony
38:30
to
38:30
accepthisawardforWorstDirector.Showgirlswouldlaterwinan
38:34
eighthRazzieforworst
38:36
picture
38:36
ofthelast
38:37
decade
38:38
in2000.Italsoreceived
38:40
threenominationsatthe1995
38:42
StinkersBadMovieAwards,
38:44
WorstPicture,
38:44
WorstactorforColeMacLachlanandworstactressforElizabeth
38:48
Berkeley.Ofthe
38:49
three,itsonlywinwasforWorstPicture.TherewasasequeltoShowgirls,written,produced,edited
38:56
anddirectedbyRenaRiffle.RenaRifflestarredin
39:00
Showgirls
39:01
asthecharacterPennyHope,thenewgirl
39:04
who
39:04
startsatCheetahs
39:06
and
39:06
whoendsupdancing
39:07
withthecharacter
39:07
ofJamesafterNaomiturnshimdown.Atthe
39:11
endofShowgirls,PennyandJames
39:12
areengaged
39:13
andexpectingababy.Thesequel
39:16
followsPennyassherelocatestola.Showgirl'sTwoPenniesFrom
39:21
Heavenwasfundedbya
39:22
Kickstartercampaign,andjustlikeShowgirlsgotmidnightshowingsbeforebeing
39:27
releasedon
39:28
DVDandVOD.The
39:30
2019documentaryYouDon't
39:32
KnowMebydirectorJeffreyMcHaledoesn'tshyawayfromShowgirlsissues,butalsoprovidesa
39:39
spaceforthemovieto
39:40
berevisited
39:41
and
39:41
home
39:42
video
39:42
release
39:43
for
39:43
those
39:44
stores.
39:44
This
39:45
edit
39:46
talksaboutitscultfollowing,itsqueerfandom,themusicalthat
39:49
has
39:50
beenborn
39:50
of
39:50
it,
39:51
whichRenaRifflestarredasPennyinforamonth.It'sa
39:54
fun
39:54
documentarythatreallyshinesa
39:56
lightonhowitfeelsdifferent30yearslater,howElizabethBerkleywillalwaysbeassociatedwithit,buthowshe
40:03
has
40:04
actuallyturned
40:04
acorneronitandjust
40:06
how
40:06
muchpositivityis
40:07
outtherefor
40:08
themovie.
40:08
There'sanother
40:09
documentarythatcameoutin
40:10
2023calledGoddesstheFallenRise
40:13
ofShowgirlsbyEmmyAwardwinningfilmmakerJeffreySchwartz,
40:18
andIhave
40:18
asectionin
40:19
mynotes
40:19
forremakes,but
40:20
Idon'tthinkanyoneisbraveenough
40:22
toever
40:22
remakeShowgirls.It
40:24
reallyisoneof
40:25
akind,cannotbe
40:27
replicated.Threedecadeson,
40:30
thetideisturning
40:31
forshowgirls.GinaRiveradescribedthetoneofShowgirlsperfectlyin
40:36
herYahoo
40:37
interview.Shesaid,quote,verhoeven
40:40
hadsomanystylesgoingonsimultaneously.
40:43
Itwasliketoomanytypesofpepper.Yougotwhitepepper,
40:46
chilipepper,cayenne.It'sgoingtobe
40:49
toohot.Thewardrobewasbig,themakeupwashuge,theactingwashuge,
40:54
andthedriveoftheNomicharacterwashuge.It'sallhyperbolicandIthink
40:58
it'ssetat
40:59
suchahigh
40:59
levelyou
41:00
couldn't
41:00
perceivethe
41:01
subtletyofwhathewastrying
41:02
tosay.Butthequestforstardomandhowfame
41:05
is
41:06
monstrous.Hecouldhavebroughtin
41:08
someotherhuessohecouldhighlightspecificelementsabouttheculture
41:11
thathewas
41:12
tryingtocommunicateto
41:13
theaudience.Unfortunately,itwasallbrightandloud,unquote.Nowyoucouldjustsay,
41:20
well,that'sVegas,
41:21
baby.Brightandloud.AsVerhoevensaysheintended,italsoexplainswhymanymoviegoersatthetime
41:28
rejectedthefilm'soutlandishextraportrayalofSinCity.Hewantedto
41:33
bringsomethingtothescreenthatcommentedonstardom,Hollywood,LasVegas,
41:38
greedandambition.
41:39
It's
41:40
onlyafterreevaluationthat
41:41
youstarttoappreciate
41:43
Showgirls.Somethingthatyoudon'tknowme
41:46
goesintoistheeffect
41:47
ofmirrors,whichareeverywhere
41:49
inthemovieanda
41:50
toolto
41:50
reflectwomen'ssexualityback
41:52
atthem,butalsoshowthecharacter'snarcissism
41:55
andthecraftingofmultiplePersonas.
41:58
Verhoevenalsomirrorscertainscenesliketheopeningandclosingof
42:02
Nomihitchhiking,
42:03
theintroductionofCrystalasthe
42:05
starofGoddessversus
42:07
theintroduction
42:07
Picture,
42:08
Worst
42:08
Actress
42:09
for
42:09
Elizabeth
42:10
Berkley,
42:11
Worst
42:11
Director
42:12
for
42:12
Paul
42:13
Verhoeven,
42:14
Worst
42:14
mirroredfromherlap
42:15
Ezsterhas,
42:16
Worst
42:16
New
42:17
Star
42:17
for
42:18
Elizabeth
42:18
Berkley,
42:18
Worst
42:19
Screen
42:19
Couple
42:20
for
42:20
any
42:21
combination
42:21
of
42:21
two
42:22
people
42:22
or
42:23
two
42:23
body
42:24
Parts,
42:24
and
42:24
erraticleadperformance,thatit
42:26
the
42:27
Wind.
42:27
Paul
42:28
Verhoeven
42:28
surprised
42:29
everyone
42:29
by
42:29
appearing
42:30
in
42:30
person
42:31
at
42:31
repeatsitself.It'slookingatthe
42:34
AmericanDream
42:35
inadarktwistedmirror,showingthemisogynisticrotofshow
42:40
business.Thedark
42:41
reality
42:41
of
42:42
apatriarchalsocietythaton
42:43
thesurfaceclaims
42:44
tolove,idolizeand
42:46
promotewomen,thatactuallyexploitanddegradeswomeninthe
42:50
Worst
42:51
actor
42:51
for
42:52
Kyle
42:52
MacLachla
42:53
and
42:53
worst
42:53
actress
42:54
for
42:54
Elizabeth
42:55
Berkley.
42:55
Of
42:56
the
42:56
three,
42:56
its
42:57
only
42:57
win
42:58
worldwhereblackpeoplemeether
43:00
and
43:00
instantlyabandonedtheirownbestintereststo
43:02
serveherwhims.CharacterslikeJamesand
43:05
Mollyaregivennocharacteroftheirown,
43:07
but
43:08
livetoserveandrevolve
43:09
aroundNomi.Itisworthadding
43:11
thatMollywas
43:12
not
43:12
specificallywrittenasablackcharacter,
43:14
James
43:15
after
43:15
Nomi
43:16
turns
43:16
him
43:16
down.
43:17
At
43:17
the
43:18
end
43:18
of
43:18
Showgirls,
43:19
Penny
43:19
darkskinnedblackmanas
43:21
the
43:21
bestfriendandlove
43:22
interestrespectively,the
43:24
brutal
43:24
treatment
43:24
of
43:25
la.
43:25
Showgirl's
43:26
2:
43:26
Penny's
43:27
From
43:27
Heaven
43:28
was
43:28
funded
43:28
by
43:29
a
43:29
Kickstarter
43:30
campaign,
43:30
and
43:30
just
43:31
andmisogyny.Butdespiteallof
43:34
this,Showgirlshasbeen
43:35
givenasecondlife.Notonly
43:38
isitnolongerabomb,having
43:39
earned$100
43:40
millioninVHSandDVDsales,it'salsobeginning
43:44
tohaveaculturalreevaluation
43:47
asa
43:47
satireoftheentertainmentindustry.MGMwerefullycapitalizingonthebawdinessandcampclassicreputation.
43:55
It'sbecomequite
43:56
thecultsuccessontheleveloftheRockyHorrorPictureshowor
44:00
beingembracedassobadit'sgoodliketheRoom,butitnonethelessemulatesthat
44:05
cultclassicstatus.Showgirls
44:08
30yearsonstillgetshownincinemasandmost
44:12
importantly,peoplearestilltalkingaboutit.
44:15
UnlikesomethinglikeStripteaseasan
44:18
example,which
44:19
isasimilartheme,
44:20
cameout
44:21
theyearafterand
44:22
starreda
44:23
muchbiggerstar,DemiMoore.Speakingofthestar,ElizabethBerkeleywas
44:28
blamedprimarily
44:29
asthereason
44:30
whythismoviefailed.Shewasjusta22year
44:33
old
44:34
womanstartingoutherfilmcareerasshewastreatedabysmallybythemostly
44:39
richwhite
44:40
men
44:40
incharge.Oh,theirony.Berkley
44:43
has
44:44
sincecometotermswith
44:45
themovie'sreputation,
44:46
herinvolvement
44:47
andin2015appeared
44:49
at
44:49
a20thanniversary
44:50
screeningatthe
44:51
HollywoodForeverCemetery.She
44:53
gaveamovingspeechtothe4,000
44:55
Showgirlsfanswho
44:56
Ravera
44:57
described
44:57
quote,In
44:58
1995,itwassuchadifferenttimewheretakingriskslikethatwere
45:02
notembraced.They
45:03
werelaughed
45:04
at,theywereshamedpublicly.Tobea
45:07
younggirlin
45:07
the
45:08
centerofthatwassomethingthatwasquite
45:10
difficult.But
45:11
Ifoundmyownresiliency
45:12
andmy
45:13
power
45:13
and
45:13
myconfidence,notonlythroughwhatIhadto
45:16
findout,butbecauseof
45:17
you
45:18
guys.
45:19
InMarch
45:20
2024,
45:21
Berkeleyreceivedthree
45:22
standingovationsand
45:24
asoldoutscreeningto1200fans
45:26
attheAcademyMuseum'sDavidGeffenTheatre.Shewouldsay,quote,showgirlsreallypushedthe
45:32
boundariesatthe
45:33
timethathavenowbeenembraced.Notmisunderstood,
45:36
buttruly
45:37
embraced.And
45:38
I'msograteful
45:38
that
45:39
thefilmhasfounditsway
45:40
notonlyintoyourhearts,butespecially
45:42
theLGBTQcommunity.
45:45
Youstoodbythefilm,you
45:46
alwaysbelieved,asdidI,andforthatI'm
45:49
eternallygrateful.Shealso
45:52
jokedthatshewasfinallythankingtheAcademyMuseum.At
45:58
leastshehasasense
45:59
of
45:59
humoraboutitallnow.Butit'ssafe
46:01
tosaythatElizabethBerkeleyandhercareerwerethrowntothewolvesafterthismovie.AndPaulVerhoevenhasadmittedthat
46:08
muchofthe
46:09
vitriolthatwentBerkeley's
46:10
waywas
46:11
purelydowntohisdecisionson
46:13
howtodirecther.Andhehasopenlyapologizedto
46:16
herforthat.ElizabethBernkleewillbe
46:20
inAustinonthe9thofOctober2025.That'slateronthisyearasofthisepisode's
46:25
releaseforaspecial30thanniversaryscreeningofShowgirls.So
46:30
if
46:31
you
46:31
liveinthe
46:31
Austin
46:32
areaandyou'refreeonthe9thofOctober2025,pleasecheckyourlocallistingsandpleasegoandshowyoursupporttoElizabethBerkeleyandShowgirlsifyoucan,becauseIthinkthatwillbean
46:43
incrediblescreening.
46:44
AndasIsaid
46:45
atthestart,ItoomisunderstoodShowgirls
46:49
doingan
46:49
episodeonit.IfeellikeI
46:51
understand
46:51
itnow.Maybenotcompletely,but
46:54
better.
46:54
IseewhatVerhoevenwastryingtodo,whatEsterhousewastryingto
46:59
sayinhis
46:59
script.And
47:00
justlikewithBasicInstinct,thevision
47:03
oftwoverydifferentmenledto
47:05
abit
47:05
ofafallingout.Butthistimewithatonallywildcultclassicerotic
47:10
movie
47:10
withzeroeroticism,withoutlandishperformances,immenselyquotablelines,manyof
47:16
which
47:16
Ican'trepeatonafamily
47:18
friendlypodcast,anda
47:20
legacythatjustgoesbeyondalmostanyothermovieofitsilk,itiswhollyuniquein
47:25
somanyways.ItmakessomemistakesfordefiniteVanessa
47:29
Househassaidit's
47:30
abouta
47:31
youngwoman'sjourney
47:32
toalifeshethinksshewantsandthenseeing
47:34
itforwhatit
47:35
reallyisandthenturningherbackon
47:37
thatlifeand
47:39
alsoturning
47:39
herbackonherfriend.Butclearly
47:41
Naomi
47:41
wasn't
47:42
thinkingofMollywhenshe
47:43
wasthinking
47:43
ofavengingMolly.
47:46
AsJessieSpanomightsay,Hollywoodisfull
47:49
ofsexistpigs,butthesewomenhavecomeout
47:52
ontop
47:52
andhavemade
47:53
all
47:53
the
47:54
moneythey
47:54
needtosurviveandtothrive.Maybesexreallydoes
47:58
sell,aslongasit'sflailingaboutin
48:00
aswimming
48:01
pool.Thankyouforlistening.Asalways,I
48:04
wouldloveto
48:04
hearyourthoughtsonShowgirls.And
48:06
as
48:06
always,thankyou
48:07
foryourcontinuedsupportofthispodcast.If
48:10
youenjoythispodcast,pleasetakeamomenttotell
48:13
yourfriends,tellyourfamily,
48:15
leave
48:15
aratingorreviewwherever
48:17
youfoundthis
48:17
podcast.Andifyou
48:19
want
48:19
togetintouchwithmeoryouwanttofollowmeonsocialmedia,Iamerbaldioramawhereveryoudoyoursocialmedia.And
48:26
youcan
48:26
likepost,sharepost,commentonposts,or
48:29
youcan
48:30
DMmeand
48:31
let'stalkaboutShowgirls.
48:33
Ifyoulikethisepisode
48:34
onShowgirls,youmightalso
48:36
likeasimilarepisode
48:37
that
48:37
Idida
48:38
littlewhile
48:38
back.
48:39
Episode205ofthispodcastisonthemovieHustlers,whichobviously
48:45
doesn'thavequitesomuchsexasShowgirlsdoes,butitisaveryinterestingmovieaboutstrippersanditdoesstarJenniferLopezinarguablythebestJennifer
48:57
Lopezperformancethatever
48:59
exists.IwouldhighlyrecommendHustlersasacompanionpiecetoShown
49:03
Girls,
49:04
because
49:04
Hustlersisbasicallythe
49:06
women
49:07
takingchargeandgetting
49:09
backatthoserichwhitemen.
49:11
Soitwouldbereallygood,Ithink,towatchShowgirlsfirstand
49:15
thenwatchHustlersandthenseetherichwhitemengettheircomeuppance.
49:20
Sothe
49:21
nextepisodeof
49:22
this
49:22
podcastisgoingto
49:23
beanothermoviefrom
49:24
1995,amovie
49:26
thatactuallycameoutsixweeksbeforeShowgirls,
49:30
alowbudgetcrimethrillerthatwouldgoontomake
49:32
10timesitsbudgetthathadeveryoneasking,
49:37
whoisKaiserSoze?Iguesswe'llfindout.Joinmenextweekfor
49:42
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49:43
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49:48
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49:50
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49:53
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49:59
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50:01
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50:01
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50:02
willbefree.Butif
50:04
youdogetvalueoutofwhatIdoand
50:06
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50:06
have
50:07
themeans
50:07
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50:08
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51:09
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51:09
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51:14
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51:16
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51:18
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51:18
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51:18
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