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The Jets, Raiders, & Seahawks Fantasy Football Rebuild: Who to Draft? · Fantasy NFL Today

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, one of everyone in other NFL fans, he's in a show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm your host, Tom O'Cales, the sporty does production.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got Jason Bob with me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are going to be tapping a lot of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been writing about these teams and kind of switch head coaches and they're probably going to have a big pivot and many offensive philosophy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to see where that's going to go where they went last year, whether it work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to look at some kind of mock drafts, positional spots, because that seems to be the rage right about this time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's getting their draft ready and you know, where you drafted, where do you want to draft?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where do you don't draft?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Jason, what's Fagan?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, hey, it's the most wonderful time of the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're very much approaching fantasy draft season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I know some people probably have already had their drafts, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're starting to get the real think of it here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We three the free season is about to be, you know, it was about to happen for our most as far as probably won't, we'll play it down, hard to reserve them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, you know, it's about that time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, we've seen some interesting shifts and trends as the last month was kind of gone along.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, definitely looking forward to diving into that as well as some of the teams I've written about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's get off a little preseason talk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you watch a bunch of preseason, I can't really do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's happened the last week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I try to watch at least the first couple series of starters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I like it last night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Last night, I was definitely tuned into the early part of that Bengals commander's game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was, you know, we, it's in disappointing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we got, we got a few series of bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a series of Jaden.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jaden looked really good, granted the Bengals defenses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: still extremely bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so if you're a fantasy fan, I'd say if that's any indicator of anything, especially with no dry hydrogen, your march ace is probably your best bet is an awful one thing, because the bangles still feels like the bangles you have is formed every single possession just to be
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just to wash your tin, it looks like they're going to trade Brian Robb's junior, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're holding you about, I don't know how much you're going to get for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a, he's a lot co-track here, you know, but so they like this guy Chris Rodriguez or this is a seventh round pick, like Gocori Smith Crossberg.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Gocori Crosskey merit, seventh round pick, two hundred and forty-fifth overall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I did little research last night because I knew this question was coming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, played at the University of Arizona for a year, even though we have problems in areas last season, not my school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think the one game we did play those against us, and yeah, I was like a hundred and six yards, but he had been getting some buzz, like even just pre-draft, so I'd been, you know, reading up on him and
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, he started getting buzzer mini camp, and now he's starting to make some real noise here in the preseason feels like he's it'll ultimately be the guy and he's still going very late in drafts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're fancy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We could have had up really being the steel of a lot of drass and, you know, with the guys like that could end up maybe being a lead warrior for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I took him in the keeper draft because they had all his buzz and it was like six round rookie keeper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like you're just taking anybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But now it looks like he's got a shot at maybe being the army one or the best offenses in the league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just it's just kind of crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But maybe this is just you know classic preseason smoke without a fire.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It could be, but I feel like this one's a little more real than some of the other ones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, again, it's been, it's been buzz, well before training camp and mobile core preseason that, uh, with crosskey merit, and now that Brian Robinson's being held out, and and potential being traded, it feels a little more real.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay, I figured up, but there's this guy at the pat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Efted, Efted Tizzle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like he got two touchdowns or you know, but he's either going to be camp and, you know, because they don't really have any wide receivers that are, you know, for a bankable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I don't know about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're going to have takes coming back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, you know, seemingly healthy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's not going to put up, you know, the numbers you touch out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, but then you also have our boy, Demario Douglas, you know, yeah, who's probably going to be a little better suited now with Drake May.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And at least a little bit better at offensive wine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then also Kyle Williams had drafted him fairly high.
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[SPEAKER_01]: off the ground.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's known Boote, if it's his season on the territory.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I feel like you, Boote, you know, bad that much confidence in Boote, they wouldn't have drafted Williams that high.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wouldn't have been a mid-round pick for the Patriots if they were that confident in him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, you're never now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, anyone else was played well pretty soon, stood out to you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm not watching those preseason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to use the buzz.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be a very nice opening drive on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was good to see considering some of the practice videos we've seen have been a little rough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so to see him do it in a game, you know, Grans probably wasn't as adults will deep-ends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, sorry, who I visited?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He'll boy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's, he's, he's had a terrible game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, nine to six for ninety seven yards and a, and a study on Sunday night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I was good to see him doing an actual game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, he's got all the talent around him this year with no excuse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he has to get it done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have a store dope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have a store bond offensive line with quite a bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And nobody in the drafts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has all-world skill players around him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got another year of DJ Moore now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a doomsday back for a year or two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They also drafted Luther Burton the Thur or who is very, very good in college.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They drafted Colson, who loved way into the first round.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Deondrey Swift and Rochon Johnson are still back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot of talent at players around him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, it's not a whole lot of drop-up there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about Chicago briefly because Rome is my like top five must draft.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't leave home without him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's my MX for this season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, it's just, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The bears had never had a four thousand ARQB right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: A four thousand ARQB thirty touchdown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just like in bread into the culture that they just QB's don't succeed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like it's simply, you know, if you go to a roulette table and it's been thirty red to row, are you really going to go back black?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe this year in center round tonight, which is where, you know, I don't know all the drafting trends I've kind of seen in all the shifts I've seen, but one thing I haven't really seen shit is where Caleb Williams ends up in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you know, tend to let it round with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, was it still to write off on the software cubies?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, you know, and he's like, cuby, sixteen, which is a very spot because I think he ran the ball fair bit, but he was also at their stage, but his yards for password terrible because the online, so it's like, you almost throw the working season out, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think I like, uh, precedent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you get anyone where like the rookie or Trevor Lawrence?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good one, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: His rookie season was so bad with the urban buyer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the next season, he had it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was his league of season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, a competent coach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think you can throw, I think you can also use it for this one, because Maddie Refuse has no clue about how to execute offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has clues on how to stop offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, he did a really good job of stopping his own reporter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's that now you bring in Ben Johnson the new head coach who obviously is one of the more creative offensive minds of the game and just you look at the electricity he brought to Detroit's offense You can't help but you know imagine that too with Caleb Williams and I agree with you Roma Dunes is one of those guys who I kind of feel like is a must strap this year as well
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, first he was ADP, but it's just funny, because it's like, okay, these offensive coordinators are geniuses, Liam Cohen, Ben Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously Detroit and Tampa were two of the best offensive lead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They leave, but nobody's really downgrading those offenses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ever until those Tampa, ever until it's Detroit, but then now we all set up to upgrade Jacksonville and Chicago have been inept.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the transition transition of properties.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just doesn't seem like, you know, if something goes up, something else, it must go down, but everything can just keep setting up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's finally working.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's going to be a difference, but if you look at the, if you look at the talent around Tampa Bay and Detroit, there's no trouble.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like all those guys are back from bolts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, not Tampa.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Godwin, Godwin, Godwin's out, Daniel's big mellows on the pop list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just haven't just about to fall off a cliff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got to make a boooka and my Gavin's a small walk in Bowson yards until we're going to otherwise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bet it, I'll bet it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was saying boo, and boo because drawing a lot of hype, and he was horrible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say he was the best receiver last year at Ohio State, but he was also at a loaded room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like, but he was probably the second person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was damn good for them for years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so I write in the slot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's get back to what we were going to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to talk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's let's start with the Raiders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now Nathan's team, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were actually one of the most past heavy teams last year, despite having a dual connole.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Garder, but you in some other guy, I can't remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was doesn't ridder for the front, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they were from the ball because they didn't have any running backs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had absolute tracks and running backs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now they brought in Pete Carroll.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They brought in, I keep, I always forget that before we, you will go chip Kelly, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We like to play fast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you wrote this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So talk to me where were the raiders last year and where do you see them gone?
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[SPEAKER_01]: All the raiders were almost two out of every three plays pass, but which also makes kind of sense because they were always playing behind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like they're ever a control of the games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really, so from what you've never mind yet, you know, knowing Pete Carroll and understanding, you know, he's was a phone in my own personal side as a nine or a fan for so many years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You like throwing the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You like to be physical.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Drap Ascent Gentie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to draft Ascent Gentie six over all just to stash them and let them do nothing, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, does he?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pete Carroll likes throwing the ball at running the ball?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he likes running the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, run the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's physical football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: hard-nosed physical smash-mouth football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you look at all the years in Seattle, you have Marshall on Lynch, they were a very run-heavy team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He, uh, not letting us cook.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He became, you know, even the Thomas Rawls and Chris Carson years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was very keen on running ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then even when they shifted away from those guys and, you know, had DK Metcass and the lock gates and, you know, those guys, you know, still more, you know, still pretty run-centric.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I don't expect it to be any different in Vegas with him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even with, you know, genosmith, I think he knows the ceiling genosmith has and knows him well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have any number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have a true number one, I receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, I often can be built around Ash and Jente and Brock Bowers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but so, but Gino was a top-forward passing here as life here, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was like, he can throw the ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Raiders, if they're defensive, still isn't going to be that good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's going to be playing catch-up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, where do you see that rush past split?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or maybe it's just a lot of like, screens and check-downs, tipsy on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or Johnty, can't see, can't see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it could be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see it being a true fifty-fifty split.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you don't just go from like, sixty-four percent passing down to fifty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a little extreme, but I, you know, I saw, I think I put in my Oracle at least five to ten percent of a drop from, you know, in that passing game, percent of drop, and I could see that, which is, you know, still a bulk of carriers for Gentie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's still a bulk of probably short passes for Gentie in Brock Bowers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, there was Cero Room as a giant question mark.
11:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you know, right now they're more and receivers to Kobe Myers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, you know, if you're rated underrated, but at best he's a number two on a contending team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then what about, uh, tip Kelly, right, the OC, where I was not in Philly likes to play fast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He loves throwing your running backs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, how do you to kill influence the offense?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, does he make a denty like this bus draft player?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think everybody's going to say genties a must draft guy and I should don't disagree with it just because again, it's not it's less about ship Kelly is more about Pete Carroll's loss.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and just again, Pete Carroll was her on the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's a lot of marsh on Lynch like qualities in genty that I see and I can see them leaning heavily on him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, anything else with the Raiders?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The one guy I'd watch out for, and you can get him extremely late in drafts is their second round big Jack Bash.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a solid, he's a very solid wide out, you know, he's playing, you know, playing with a lot, you know, and he's got a whole lot of opportunity.
12:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the other thing with Pete Carroll is this, and people need to remember is he is all about competition, he's all about opportunity.
12:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Most guys don't have spots like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They could be out competed for it in a day.
12:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, if you were Russell Wilson's rookie year, we'll expect to start a side map blend with a three year deal.
12:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And he even started one game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So batch back could go up that dub chart pretty quick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So was it there some of the bad news early camp?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or maybe like they like trade talk or don't date Jordan.
13:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember I saw something because I like bad to the he got some really bad bad vibes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure I haven't read up too much on eight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there was a a pretty personal matter that happened with him early to start the year that he's, you know, getting through and that's, you know, it's always gonna be tough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like he's still a guy who could really emerge by the end of the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I like, yeah, no for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just go to where Carol gave him Seattle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Seattle again, even with Kenneth Walker, Zach Sharberney, one of the worst old lines in the league, they were super pass having in last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but they had D.K.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that Jason, D.K.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that down here, Locket kind of got lost.
13:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, but Staddle was getting, like, they were getting killed offensively.
13:46
[SPEAKER_00]: But now they brought, would they bring it?
13:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Who's their new coach now?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike McDonald's in year two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so they brought it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, see, they brought it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They brought it to the new O.C.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, look that upper on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, Seattle, sales are, yeah, it's Clint Kubiak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he said he run midday like they are going to be burned in the ball despite still having terrible online.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they did draft crazy able to so they're they're definitely trying to shore it up Charles Cross of leaving his gear three or four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I ain't even read all the con.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But so what do we see with Seattle?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they got a pretty good defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They brought in Darnell for Gino, but it's very, like I think passing yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were with it like ten, but Darnell had about fifty more passing touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who you take.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably a wash either way, but going from Minnesota to Seattle is a huge downgrade to the coaching talent, O-line weapons across the board.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Seattle's also a team who made wholesale changes offensively to other than the running backs, everything else is different.
14:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, literally so you come in with Walker and Charbon A. And that's an interesting situation too because I know people are still really high on Walker, but to me, I'm not as high on him as most people.
15:08
[SPEAKER_01]: He likes durability, which is a problem.
15:11
[SPEAKER_01]: He missed six games last year and Zack Charbon A and those six games was great.
15:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he is by far the best handcuff in fancy football.
15:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Eating sharps is the best takeoff?
15:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
15:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I mean, how like sharps, but the thing with Walker, yeah, I agree.
15:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if he can't stay healthy, who cares?
15:33
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just his, his improvement is the receding in last year was unbelievable.
15:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, I'm supposed to be that third down back, but Walker, I think doubled it more than doubled his catches from any previous year.
15:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he was a really weapon there.
15:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, if he could get twelve hundred rush yards, four hundred receive it, can't touch sounds like, that's, you know, all he has to stay healthy.
15:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you, I don't believe he's ready for the production.
15:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm worried about, I'm worried about his health because that's pretty good for him.
16:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
16:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
16:01
[SPEAKER_00]: No, for trails.
16:03
[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll talk to you about Seattle, where what they did last year, what are they going to be doing this year?
16:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, again, you know, very more pass at a team, I would expect them to lead a little more, you know, a little more towards the run.
16:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I don't see anything going from the sixties to a straight, fifty, fifty, one pass.
16:20
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, okay, there were thirty, seven, sixty, three, right?
16:22
[SPEAKER_00]: They threw thirty passes against the fifth, most in the league.
16:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, it's a lot for Dino.
16:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
16:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So obviously, Dino's not there anymore.
16:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And also the guy you can entirely rely on, uh, to straight up when you again.
16:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if we, we were nine and the end of last season, you know, Darrell's like guy who's going to, you know, he's not going to really be able to shoulder that load, especially with an interesting receiver like Jason had, uh, you know, I break out here this year.
16:50
[SPEAKER_01]: or this past year.
16:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think you saw a lot of my Jason.
16:54
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
16:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's like, my, I'm, I'm Jason.
16:57
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like just give, like, people are saying they, they're worried that Cooper in the slot, Jason in the slot.
17:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's all just noise.
17:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Jason is going to.
17:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
17:06
[SPEAKER_01]: What a change for you, John.
17:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But you're dumping why for Jason, huh?
17:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God.
17:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Jason, I mean, Jason's going to lead the league in targets.
17:14
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not fit.
17:15
[SPEAKER_00]: He's for fewer yards.
17:17
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you didn't really really rely on him.
17:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Tupor couple be there, but again, is another guy, can't he say I'll be?
17:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Who cares?
17:26
[SPEAKER_01]: He's down.
17:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Could where he's lost?
17:27
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a matter of he's healthier now.
17:29
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like though, the guy who I'm going to say to watch out for, you don't need to draft him, but he can end up being a very labor wire target for you, and you know, when you some games late in the years, Tori Hort.
17:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I have been Tori Horten.
17:41
[SPEAKER_01]: He was all your rough guy.
17:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was a fifth or six round pick for them at a Colorado State.
17:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And this guy, he's been making plays in camp.
17:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I know it's kind of that early camp buzz, you know, and all the smoke, I get it.
17:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But I've been watching this guy for a couple of years in college.
17:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just felt he's always, what's always the good throw at the right situation.
18:04
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's already pushing Mark has Valdez scantling for the number three job in the slot.
18:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like he's going to emerge eventually.
18:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to happen immediately.
18:13
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll happen.
18:14
[SPEAKER_01]: But where does he play?
18:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Is he like the actress diver?
18:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Is he going to, is he the deep guy?
18:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's the ex guy.
18:19
[SPEAKER_01]: He runs more.
18:20
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to see him run too many fades or, you know, too many.
18:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Go route you're going to see him more run a wrestle route tree and be able to just rack up yards after the catch.
18:29
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not that big, but he is physical.
18:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
18:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big big fan of this guy.
18:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And let's just say I was personally not very happy to see the Seahawks strap.
18:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Fair enough.
18:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so you said you love Charms is the best handcuff.
18:45
[SPEAKER_00]: So are they going to be a situation like Detroit where you can play Monty and Gibbs?
18:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you could draft them both and start them at the same week or needing Charms is really gotta wait for Walker to go down.
18:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like at this point, you're going to have to wait for Walker to go down.
19:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Driving Sharves is good.
19:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a good hand cut to have.
19:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like Sharves will get a few more touches than he did last season when Walker was available in healthy, but he's a must have hand cut because if you look at his numbers, the weak spotter was out.
19:16
[SPEAKER_01]: He ran for fifty, at least to the yards in every single game.
19:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was a six.
19:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Because Harvey wanted we fifteen.
19:23
[SPEAKER_00]: He knocked me out of the fan.
19:24
[SPEAKER_01]: pass you like or these ninety in a couple of them any ran for at least one touchdown in four of the six games I'll walk our best okay so uh so let's say this Seattle versus out of the raiders which offense are you buying
19:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still buying Seattle's.
19:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they have more, they have more all around talent than the Raiders do.
19:42
[SPEAKER_01]: If you look at the receiver room, you know, you look at the receiver room.
19:46
[SPEAKER_01]: There's definitely still one that exists in Seattle.
19:49
[SPEAKER_01]: The Raiders one still needs a lot of work.
19:51
[SPEAKER_01]: The tight end of the room.
19:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, the Raiders have brought gowers, you know, and the Seahawks don't really have much of tight end right now.
19:59
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's that.
20:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the running bag rovers still a little more established right now with Walker and Sharbs than, you know, we don't know what we're going to see up with Gentie.
20:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
20:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
20:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think a lot seems to jets who were, uh, I think second most passed have a happy team.
20:14
[SPEAKER_00]: They ran the least amount in the NFL.
20:16
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Roger supported that two top quail white receivers in Devante, Gary Wilson and Breeze Hall just kind of, uh, that he never had more than eight, either twenty rushes a game.
20:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Now they got just the fields.
20:26
[SPEAKER_00]: They got a whole new whole new system.
20:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Talk to me about the jets.
20:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, kind of take a minute while I bang my head on my coffee table really quick about Breeze Hall and his lack of touches last year.
20:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
20:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is, this is a team I expect to actually have a significant run shift with, you know, Aaron Glenn coming in from Detroit who had the two headed monster with Gives in Montgomery, but you have Justin Fields who's definitely a more run, you know, central quarterback than Aaron Rogers was.
20:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, it's passing accuracy was great.
21:01
[SPEAKER_01]: So I would expect a lot more of, but the problem with the jets and we don't know this is, you know, Fields will run it in the red zone.
21:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that they automatically make some of viable fantasy quarterback no matter how much he struggles throwing the ball.
21:13
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're trying to drop a jet running back, oh, man, it's like, yeah, I don't know.
21:19
[SPEAKER_01]: This one, this one's tough.
21:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little, I don't want to say I don't like trees.
21:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very worried about trees.
21:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, but the what the use it's health, but usage.
21:31
[SPEAKER_01]: the usage of the thing.
21:33
[SPEAKER_01]: There's been talk about a committee, even though he's the clear cut number one guy, the brim around is still viable.
21:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And Isaiah Davis may get some touches too.
21:41
[SPEAKER_01]: They may ride the hot hand.
21:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, when, you know, one style, you know, coming, when coming from Detroit, you think about Montgomery and Gibbs, but they were also very able to effectively run the ball.
21:53
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know what we're going to get out of the jets.
21:55
[SPEAKER_01]: It is such a giant unknown.
21:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, I'm a little squeamish on drafting jets.
22:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, no, no, me too, but I mean, like last year, like they were, well, brief was a Boston.
22:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, but what's a Wilson actually had a good season secretly some out?
22:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's still going to put up points, but so what about Garrett Wilson, right?
22:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Like now he's the wider receiver would, but is it back to what he had, uh, my brain doesn't work anymore?
22:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, right?
22:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Huh?
22:19
[SPEAKER_00]: No, not Flacco.
22:20
[SPEAKER_00]: They got a draft in second overall.
22:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Zach Wilson.
22:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Zach Wilson throw into them and he would have to catch one handed and essentially throw it to himself.
22:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Do we like, if you don't like priest Hall, but I'm like, what's that?
22:31
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, the dead little did yoke.
22:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say the one difference is, Gary Wilson and feels have some built in chemistry just from being college day.
22:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I like that.
22:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they both, they put together to house state that definitely helps a little bit.
22:47
[SPEAKER_01]: granted, you know, talent disparities a little bit different in Columbus versus, you know, what you're going to see in the NFL.
22:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, the other good news is, you know, just looking at the, you know, a lot majority of their, or their divisional games.
22:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, there's no familiar.
23:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Are there really any familiar past rushers right now in the AFC East that you have to like, you circle on your calendar, like, I got to do with this guy and this guy's going to make my life hard throwing a ball as a quarterback right now.
23:12
[SPEAKER_01]: It's out of the war.
23:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
23:15
[SPEAKER_01]: That helps.
23:17
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Wilson's, you know, his draft is ADP has been like around like third, you know, like late third round, mid late third round, which is our, I really don't have an issue with.
23:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
23:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I just I have a day.
23:29
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, uh, this is a pond.
23:31
[SPEAKER_00]: They're in fact, you know, when you draft the wide receiver, you're all some bearing the quarterback, right?
23:35
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was like, I just give me a wide receiver two on a great offense, rather than a great wide receiver with the shitty quarterback.
23:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I've just seen it too many times.
23:43
[SPEAKER_00]: They'll get, you know, thirteen targets, but he brings in six and he's only at sixty seven yards and no touchdowns.
23:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I'm out on Garrett.
23:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I'm probably out on the jets, but fields, I'm kind of coming around on because like I keep here.
23:55
[SPEAKER_00]: He ran for like the most yards ever.
23:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's two years ago Chicago for a quarterback.
24:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he is gonna run the ball.
24:02
[SPEAKER_00]: He runs in the red zone.
24:03
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going pretty late.
24:05
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm kind of coming around on fields a bit, but I don't like the turf.
24:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like the jets.
24:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I'm kind of the same way I'm very squeamish on the jets, but I also do agree with the field's park, you know, if you can get a plate, why not?
24:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's good late.
24:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone forgets last year, he had a QB one game against the, was the whole to the indie, where he had like, thirty fantasy points, and then my Tom and for some reason, pull the plug off.
24:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, you made a promise, but, but so the jet's right there at thirty six sixty four run past split.
24:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it going, is, are they going to go fifty fifty?
24:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it'd be the biggest switch up in the history of the NFL.
24:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there's one team who could end up doing fifty-fifty in this case.
24:42
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, because we're lying your defense from the ball, but so I don't know, some, but like, brief, I feel
24:49
[SPEAKER_00]: If he's getting the carries, but I'd have to see how much fields checks down.
24:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
24:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that would be, because that's how Brace is going to get you free game, right?
24:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, reasons for the game would be great.
25:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, he doesn't, yeah, I don't know how many carries is truly in the game.
25:05
[SPEAKER_01]: This is especially getting, I don't want Glenn for Scott there.
25:07
[SPEAKER_01]: They talked about potential committee and they have three cable bags.
25:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Really, really.
25:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I got Brace Allen today, like they've
25:15
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Braille and Alan had an okay rookie season, but I think he's like three put seven years for Carrie.
25:20
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like he was like dusting people.
25:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not yet, but I mean, you started getting some red zone dungeons, and if you're a breeze hauler, that was like, no, legit.
25:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to, um, that was legit.
25:33
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25:36
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26:00
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26:01
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to talk draft slots, right?
26:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just who twelve seed league, happy PR, PPR, has short that.
26:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I know you're a big one of the, you don't want the wood, right?
26:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Because whoever that little one guy is is cursed.
26:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, but one what?
26:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Like first overall.
26:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, the number one, yeah, the number one overall curse.
26:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I tried that once and now I'm just like, I'm all about it.
26:21
[SPEAKER_01]: The number one overall guy, I'm like, I'm going the other way.
26:25
[SPEAKER_00]: So you have a spot where you like to go.
26:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I find it's think I always like to be front loaded.
26:30
[SPEAKER_00]: It just seems like you could just you get a lot more value.
26:33
[SPEAKER_00]: But if it's third round of a virtual different story, but I like to be earlier, it possible.
26:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
26:41
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, for me, I do probably too many leagues, but I try to talk myself into my drafts lot.
26:48
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, be like, okay, I can deal with this here.
26:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I can do what that.
26:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really like eat too much.
26:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm fine.
26:55
[SPEAKER_01]: It's six.
26:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Really fine at twelve.
26:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, you know, picking like three or four.
27:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's see, let's see, you got five.
27:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Who are you hoping to get?
27:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I taste his gun, these guns gone.
27:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, are you hoping lamb, Jefferson?
27:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I know you love a little kid, yeah.
27:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do want me some JJ, but I would, you know, she didn't sit in there, I would draft him.
27:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that.
27:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I say, I have a bounce back here.
27:20
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got George Piggins on the other side of him out of free him a little bit more.
27:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Although they do have that one significant injury, the offense, why I still feel like they could figure it out.
27:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, CD'll probably be a big part of that offense again.
27:31
[SPEAKER_01]: He's still on great, your last year, despite the fact they shut up down.
27:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care where so where do you want to go because I find it's like eight nine person that first round and then you got to take like the puka or you know you're just going a little bit of a less guaranteed sure
27:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So just, you know, looking at, you know, some mock traps, I've, you know, just mess around and done, burying the course of the last, you know, month, month and a half or so early on, like right before around, before training camps started, seemed like the trend was a draft receiver receiver receiver, really.
28:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Now it seems like that trend is really shifted and here we're running back seems to be making a return as a strategy.
28:12
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe go in that way.
28:13
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you're sitting at five,
28:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, Gibbs, B janitor's sake wander there.
28:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, even with a mileage on sake one, you know, I still plan a very competent offense.
28:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and they'll, um, and they'll, and they'll, for him, he may not be the fancy number one overall player.
28:31
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll still be of our still be no lead running.
28:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's weird because it's like he wasn't very explosive last year.
28:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I got into this one time and it's like his longest run.
28:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I think was except yards, maybe he's sometimes like a piece of the current, but he just he's dealt one of the most best cuts right side step is crazy.
28:49
[SPEAKER_00]: He's done, you know, his full bridge of motion.
28:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think maybe it's just an off air.
28:54
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to explode this year.
28:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I love these.
28:56
[SPEAKER_00]: But when I think in my spot, I think about like where I am of the next round, right?
29:01
[SPEAKER_00]: So if I'm drafting four, you know, when it comes back at, you know, eight, eight or one, twelve, twenty, who am I now, who can't I get?
29:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Like who's off the table for me, right?
29:13
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I really like to consider.
29:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
29:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, at this point, it seems like there's still going to be a lot of running backs available in the back of the second round.
29:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So like Kyrim Williams James Cook, maybe even to the Taylor.
29:26
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, some of those are like the chuba Hubbards of our inhampton.
29:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So there are going to be running back available.
29:32
[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't really have to desperately take a running back.
29:34
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a good, you know, still a good wide receiver one.
29:38
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
29:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's say it's like, what's your draft?
29:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Big money draft.
29:42
[SPEAKER_00]: You get first pick at any spot.
29:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Where are you going?
29:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, I get to choose my draft slot.
29:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like is there a player you're targeting for you to the slot or like a tier?
29:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't say I'm targeting players.
29:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I've made that mistake too many times.
29:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and I don't want to I don't want to date myself too much here, but I'm going to go back to full of years ago here at the time I targeted treacherous in in seven overall in twenty thirteen at she'll my entire season.
30:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I you know, I try not to and then, you know, a couple of years ago, there's some strange reason I targeted Naughty Harris to help match away with him in his sophomore year and that will
30:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Some else still made the playoffs out of that, but yeah.
30:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he played every game.
30:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I was a mistake.
30:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I try to have the target specific player that he more, try to let, you know, whatever the draft falls it may.
30:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever, you know, there's certain, you know, maybe strategies that I try to deploy depending on if it's keeper or not.
30:37
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's just like I know I am it stuff is like I've been saying all summer got to go running back early because like in that seventy nine ten there's all wide receivers that are all awesome.
30:48
[SPEAKER_00]: So it but it's like I'm not leaving my first few rounds without either deco calls or Drake a little bit like they're just.
30:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting one of them.
30:56
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's tough.
30:58
[SPEAKER_00]: If I got ten vehicle failed to be in the back of the turret, like not the turret, but it's sixteen.
31:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And Drake's there, I might have to go.
31:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Vehicle Drake in the draft like six white, six running backs at a row.
31:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I also don't have an issue going zero or be in the tens lot.
31:13
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've done it or almost I have done it.
31:15
[SPEAKER_01]: But I tried to go running back or receiver running back in that.
31:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And I made a mistake on that a few years ago.
31:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably cost me a title.
31:23
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when I was looking back on Aden, my first pick in that draft, I took Antonio Brown, tenth overall.
31:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, that pick was great.
31:30
[SPEAKER_01]: He was art with the best player in fancy football that year.
31:33
[SPEAKER_01]: For like three years though, instead of taking over old Beckham, like I probably should have, you know, not understanding, you know, hey, it's okay to go zero or be there.
31:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I took on Jeremy Hill.
31:43
[SPEAKER_01]: He had, you know, maybe two good weeks that they blamed out.
31:46
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I still have the best team to league up until the playoffs, but, you know, by that point, I was kind of just running on Erooms and
31:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You know how to go to Beckham instead of forget who else I had a receiver that season, you know, probably would have been better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here we have a question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kyle Seabord audio.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you keep Josh Allen, Derek Hunter, and the keeper league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_00]: at seems like it's a no-brainer, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had to reach thirty two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He should've probably should've faded already.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Freakin' each are sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Josh Allen and then go at twenty twenty nine, still was prime quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to keep Josh Allen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even if it's a wooden feeble league, and even if Derek Henry's known to pitch he'd spots ahead of him, you have to keep Josh Allen, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this isn't even, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, unless if you had Joe Burrow or something, if you had two elite cubies, I've just, but then you'd be good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's, that's a different story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, that Burrow Island debate would come down to how much of your passing touchdowns were.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here, your passing touchdowns were six, then you probably got Burrow a little bit later and you can keep up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what's the worst QB you would take where you'd take care of Cadbury over them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Bryce Young, you'd keep it there Cadbury or Bryce Young?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm keeping Derek Henry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb Williams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still keeping Derek Henry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Drake May?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm keeping Drake May.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Drake May.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
33:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say this and I know prepare to be shocked with this more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to make sure you're in your seat when I say this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would keep Derek Henry right now for Brockburg.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, Brock.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I welcome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm very, obviously, I'm really, really, I'm Brock, but I keep it there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I just, I just, Henry, I love him.
33:32
[SPEAKER_00]: He's so crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't look like he's blown in at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Offers his belt for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, to, I think he got two seasons at max left of like this peak performance and probably not that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But right now, you could still get Brock courty way later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you could sort of have a girlfriend who's here now in a room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got like Allen or Burrow, they may go a little higher now, like they're going in the first four rounds no matter what.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, Brock's still going like night to have rounded this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's a good point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so back to the draft slots.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what about like who do you have?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like who are the players you're targeting?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that second third round or like that's where this the slot is kind of where you want to go, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you would, like if you wanted to get like, you know, like I'm dissing and I love, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Find that mock draft and when he got so did you want the first pick of the third round, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like if I'm picking eight, I'm not going to get to a cent, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which with socks, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: More likely not, but you know, who is there as Marvin Harrison, Jr., who's also a wide receiver one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to have a big time bounce back here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That tracks to be seen as his herbs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He looks like the all of you was like curls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He looked like he was doing more than twelve ounce curls this summer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what's
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, say, you know, going back to around two ropeway, um, the interesting can under him is what do you do with the turn and picked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, do you go here or running back?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you go right back or see her?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's tough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, maybe I'm, I'm, I'm probably having, I'm probably taking jetty at that point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like how the rookie super star running backs have translated as rookies like they know usually it takes a year like they'll be fine But he'll have like a eleven hundred rushing yards three hundred receiving in the six time touchdown right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be like a RB eight or nine, but I don't know yeah, bucky Like that twelve so it's if you're at twelve It's like nothing matters ADP's irrelevant just takes advice, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what about Jacobs and Jonathan's error?
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... what no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the packers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're very run heavy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have a grill back up or some Lloyds out again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, no, I think I think Jacob's is going to be telling us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we got a question here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whoa, that's a freaky picture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Shadow is wicked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Shadow is wicked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One man, one big keeper league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Keep parent Williams lose eight or keep pro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this, are you trying to see?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a great problem to have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I were you, you know, just for starters, I would try to bribe early versus second keeper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... no i mean i don't understand kind of lambs is uh... is a fraught right he gets to usage but he's not good right they don't really throw to him he that he doesn't for he actually for example but he's not explosive right his long and his longest
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[SPEAKER_00]: was his luck no wrong the longest one thirteen years so confusing my comments that's but it's it if you look at his events that's it's a it's a it's a combination so they got to do that jackass hunter a break black core will bite may not be good but shopping based on the loyalty to anyone so kind of the time he's getting paid but if he's if he struggles or somebody plays better he's toast so it's like I can't I can't really the broad powers feels like
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel, oh, does it just be as a joke?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've not turned to be a dick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just love Brock Bowers.
37:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I love Louis Ants.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would go our person being ours here too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, by far time, he used to me tied in one right out of the league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so wait, tight end, slot in my league is tied in one receiver.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Does that mean, so you don't even have to play tight end?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Watch, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, watch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sorry, tight end even less valuable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well played.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
37:36
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, he says I'm also a radar fan, but I like where what a weird thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tight head is tight head slash wider severs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you don't, I've never seen them before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tight head is optional.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Mark Bowers, if he was a wider seaver, it would be what the, would the eight eight eighth rank wider seamer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he would still be a top fan wide receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and four hundred yards and over a hundred grabs last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would, you know, why he may not get those numbers will still be in and around those numbers, which is odd ten wide receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, you keep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just I got no faith in timing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm also all out of the ramps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stafford's broken.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope he can be concerned to me too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Devante's toast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pukas amazing, but he's injury prone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the ramp is my time.
38:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll creep into the playoffs, but they're going to be a fantasy nightmare.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like kind of like I encourage probably going to get like
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[SPEAKER_00]: A thousand yards rush to get ten touchdowns, but it's going to be like a three-pointing yards per carry, and it's going to be ugly, and it's just going to be him falling into the engine from the two, but if it's Stafford's not even throwing, and it's JBG, or maybe not moving down the field, and I could sack line, so it's like, oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's be scary who I'd be taking over fire points, but you know, that's just me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we're gonna go a couple of minutes here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for the questions guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We love it.
38:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I love going on tangents.
38:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, so let's let's talk working running backs because you watched all the college and I wrote I wrote about like what if you only went rookie running backs?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like maybe you don't get gently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you don't get hampered.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking to you, Jayden Blue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go, RJ Harvey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, travian Henderson who's blowing up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's all these rookie running backs and a lot of them seem pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, after, after those first two after Gentie and Hampton, I'm going travian, Henderson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say, I would say right now, he's number three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, like, I think I'm kind of done with the remoderation, Steven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're moderates, Stevenson experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's just so many more and let me that would certainly serious that this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was thirty running bags had a draughtable great this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So basically
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so yeah, our day Harvey, but he was put to our RB five of the depth chart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was scary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He'll use like my favorite pick, but he's still looking good in preseason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he also kind of albums, which, um, you know, and immediately takes a hit to his immediate valve long term dynasty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, immediate value though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little, if I'm in a full redraft league, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: almost.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Quincy on Jeffkins, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not signed yet, but the charges were dropped.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, that leads a little bit off at the very time a long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, he's not even my favorite running back on their team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a favorite rookie when he back on their team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you like to do it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, Dylan Samson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was my favorite when he ran back to their team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish you would get more touches.
40:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You get a deficit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
40:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Kim's got to do, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The giant, sour and tasty.
40:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It's trouble holding us at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I need love's got to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my guy, but right now, by all indications, you know, and scatterboot just got by the price today.
40:45
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's been doing a hamstring injury last couple weeks.
40:48
[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like Tracy's still the unquestioned RB one there.
40:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we've seen like these guys lose positions all the time, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That tastes brown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All the last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Huh?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tracy's so much job last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he took single Terry's job, right?
41:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm Bucky took our shout-of-white's job.
41:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it is just, it's just, it's not, what about Jane on the blue, right?
41:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause like, uh, Patrick was saying he really liked, uh, Miles Sanders, and I was like, Miles Sanders doesn't look good to see the old line in Philly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then to Montenegro Williams has a good city towards ACL like three years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I, I, I, I like Jane and Blue a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I feel like he may have the best opportunity out of the unhaerolded bags to take a job and one of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay, any other working running backs, like some of your deep cuts, some of these some crates that we lost key merit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I watched it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we were talking about, you know, the Bengals game, you know, last night and it was definitely worth watching in this guy.
41:44
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was a two hundred and forty-fifth overall pick in the draft this year and, you know, now Bryan Robinson's all something on the trade block.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was held out for for cautionary reasons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's in the contract here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have a few other guys, but Maris been generating a lot of buzz for a while there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was the stays back to like mini camp that he was generating that type of buzz.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you could end up being, you'd end up being an RB one for them by the end of the year and could end up being a lead winner for a lot of people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, ow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's like the RB-fifty two right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going around with Dino Blue, but it's just so if you drafted today, like your woo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-
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[SPEAKER_01]: most likely, but, you know, people read.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I could see him going, you know, by the, oh, yeah.
42:38
[SPEAKER_01]: You're drafting two weeks from a night like I am, shout out my leagues.
42:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I could see him going like, all the dirty out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I just saw a block where he went to the fifth round.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, see Chris out, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me see where, maybe it was keeper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let me, did he, did he go this one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, here you went.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wood two three four five six seven eight nine ten on twelve twelve round.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what about a two basal to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, vital to do that's an interesting situation because there's a you know, it seems like he's still.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number three with I'm right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: True.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they like tack a bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: tank a bit, you know, ETN still exists, but I feel like it's going to be tanked back, filled by the end of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The other interesting rookie, sit your, work your way right, keep an eye on now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think about deep cuts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Holy Gordon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Gordon from Miami.
43:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this guy had an insane fall from Brace last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy last year was a free season, Heisman candidate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a hot programming pack in college, liberal going into the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He, you know, had some, he had something happened with him that knocked him down a few pegs and just had an awful season as to the rest of the old Bahamas State date.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were garbage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know for lack of a better turn, but you know he's in Miami now and it seems like he's at least pushing jail and right for that number two job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it is, you know, he's not super bit so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he's good, but he's very quarterback dependent his numbers, you know, and his, you know, success really depends on to his availability and, you know, I know you and I, you and I were talking pretty show about this can we really trust that tool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stay healthy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, we can't, we can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to wrap up.
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44:35
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44:38
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44:41
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, maybe five, twenty five.
44:43
[SPEAKER_00]: It should be on my net.
44:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, oh, so I have a, put there.
44:47
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44:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, where I would have chosen every week.
44:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we had Anthony doing his, oh, you should come on.
44:54
[SPEAKER_00]: He does the best ball drop on Thursdays.
44:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there's a basketball drop, all right?
44:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got you in Thursday, Mo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John, we're just two weeks away from our full-field Thursdays, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The best still in the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I guess everyone, thanks a lot, Jason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks a lot, people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We will see you next week, or maybe there's that boob.