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The Bolt Report | 10 November · The Bolt Report

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Speaker 1: It's the bold reform.
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Speaker 2: Tonight, a former top judge admits her decision to clear
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Speaker 2: children that have puity blockers was based on dodgy evidence
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Speaker 2: that they were safe. Meanwhile, the new South Wales premier
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Speaker 2: threatens to the Nazis with new laws after they paraded
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Speaker 2: a banner it actually sounds like what Left US and
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Speaker 2: Palestinian protesters have been saying for months. And the bots
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Speaker 2: of the BBC quits after the broadcasters caught out doctor
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Speaker 2: in quotes of Donald Trump. Plus the bad part of
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Speaker 2: my weekend trip to one of Australia's most beautiful areas,
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Speaker 2: but also the very good I'll tell you the champion
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Speaker 2: of yesterday's Australian Bassett Hound race. But first now, just
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Speaker 2: before I go to the latest laughable stupid from liberals
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Speaker 2: defending the Natziera nonsense, I mean nonsense, I've got to
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Speaker 2: point out something most people are too scared or woke
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Speaker 2: to note publicly. Now, some viewers may find it offensive
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Speaker 2: that I know I note it, and I might even
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Speaker 2: complain to our speech police to shut me down again.
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Speaker 2: But this is even more important now that Melbourne and
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Speaker 2: its surrounding areas is the latest swathe of Australia to
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Speaker 2: be hit by an Aboriginal native title claim more than
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Speaker 2: ten thousand square kilometers. So let us be frank, because
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Speaker 2: this is getting really stupid and offensive and dangerously divisive.
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Speaker 2: This claim over parts and reserves and other vacant crown
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Speaker 2: land in Melbourne and around it is from members of
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Speaker 2: the Wereujarie warrang, who then get some control over water
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Speaker 2: resources for instance of park management, fire reduction burns perhaps,
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Speaker 2: but not I should add over private property. Now already
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Speaker 2: it might strike you as absurd and unfair that a
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Speaker 2: tribe of at most fifteen hundred people maybe a thousand,
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Speaker 2: I don't know, claiming to be Aboriginal have so much, say,
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Speaker 2: over five and a half million other fellow Australians. And
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Speaker 2: that's even more so really, when so many of these
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Speaker 2: were injury also have European or other overseas ancestry. I'm
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Speaker 2: guessing the vast majority of them, but at most a handful.
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Speaker 2: And when I talk about ancestry from overseas, often a
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Speaker 2: lot from overseas. That'd be some more British than me,
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Speaker 2: and I have no British ancestry. Well all that, unless,
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Speaker 2: of course, unless, of course we've seen in some miraculous change,
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Speaker 2: so that over a century and a half there were
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Speaker 2: injury like the chief, there were injury. Chief can go
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Speaker 2: from looking like this it's the famous William Barrack to this.
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Speaker 2: This is Marinderri who teachers who were undery culture at
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Speaker 2: the Hillsville Sanctuary and says he inherited Barrack's Headmond title
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Speaker 2: from his uncle nineteen years ago. Are we really not
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Speaker 2: supposed to notice the difference between again, we're Untrey elders
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Speaker 2: of the past and those identifying as we're untoy elders today?
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Speaker 2: Are we not supposed to then wonder whether that difference
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Speaker 2: we see with our own eyes suggests also a difference
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Speaker 2: in kind, a difference affecting their supposed rights over the
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Speaker 2: rest of us. Now, this latest land claim, it's mirrors
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Speaker 2: ones over Adelaide, Perthins, Sydney. Two of them are already granted
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Speaker 2: and it's been lodged with a labor law firm by
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Speaker 2: eleven claimants eleven. Three of those eleven people claiming native
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Speaker 2: title over Melbourne and surrounds have been interviewed in the
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Speaker 2: news stories I read this morning. Let me introduce you.
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Speaker 2: They are Perry Wonden, a Cultural Heritage officer, Andrew Gardner,
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Speaker 2: a member of Victoria's First People's Assembly, an Aboriginal bureaucrat,
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Speaker 2: die Kerr who was inducted into the Victorian Aboriginal on
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Speaker 2: a roll. Now be clear, I am not I am
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Speaker 2: not saying these people do not have some Aboriginal ancestry,
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Speaker 2: or that they have no right to call themselves Aboriginal
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Speaker 2: under the present official definitions. That is not what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: But I do wonder why one strand of their ancestry
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Speaker 2: defines them racially but the others do not. And I
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Speaker 2: wonder why the fact that some of their ancestors were
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Speaker 2: Aboriginal some entitles them to more, say, over our second
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Speaker 2: biggest city than any other Australians. And then there's the
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Speaker 2: ultimate question, really, what's the good in this? What will
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Speaker 2: come from this? Why are these people, I don't know
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Speaker 2: for one, better custodians of our water and bush land,
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Speaker 2: better managers of our fire risks and park access than
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Speaker 2: the experts we pay today, whatever their race or ancestry.
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Speaker 2: And how much will this claim end up costing us? Now?
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Speaker 2: To me, it's also a sin against equality in a sense,
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Speaker 2: you know. To me, this our part is offensive. It's
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Speaker 2: a nonsense, is divisive, irrelevance that will drive us apart
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Speaker 2: for generations when we desperately need to come together as Australians.
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Speaker 2: Race and origin irrelevant. I try to argue all this,
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Speaker 2: of course years ago, and had my articles banned can
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Speaker 2: you believe it by a former Labor candidate to in judge.
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Speaker 2: But things are now so serious and the public interest
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Speaker 2: so great that we must be brave and honest enough
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Speaker 2: for this debate, even if some feelings are hurt. Two
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Speaker 2: years after Victorian's even Victorians said no to the voice,
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Speaker 2: no to the racial division of Australia. Why is there
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Speaker 2: state capital facing racial division? It makes no sense at all. Now,
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Speaker 2: I didn't want to talk yet again about the Liberals
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Speaker 2: arguing about whether to scrap and a zero or not.
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Speaker 2: I mean, every day for weeks, this Yama has been
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Speaker 2: going on, brawling over what to do, which hopefully I
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Speaker 2: will finally finally resolve on Sunday. I wanted to give
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Speaker 2: it a rest today, But our pops, those liberal politicians,
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Speaker 2: is still cling to this mad tiger, still want to
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Speaker 2: stick to cutting our emissions to net zero by twenty fifty,
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Speaker 2: despite the massive costs despite the fact that there'll be
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Speaker 2: zero measurable benefits. But they pop again saying more nonsense.
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Speaker 2: It really does need to be bopped on the head.
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Speaker 2: You take a liberal front bench of Senator Andrew Bragg
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Speaker 2: telling the ABC's inside this program just yesterday that the
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Speaker 2: Liberals would be mad to scrap the net zero promise.
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Speaker 3: Well, I don't think you can have a fat wire
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Speaker 3: on two words. I think that's too easily for words, frankly,
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Speaker 3: and I think.
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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, like this is the
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Speaker 4: international standard.
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Speaker 2: No, Andrew, it isn't really. As an OEC OECD report
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Speaker 2: Advanced Economies just last week pointed out, Australia is one
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Speaker 2: of just thirty countries representing seven zeen point seven percent
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Speaker 2: of country based global emissions that have legally binding net
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Speaker 2: zero pledges, just thirty and the three biggest single emitters
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Speaker 2: do not not China, not the US, not India. Little
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Speaker 2: Australia supposed to save the planet. Is it for making
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Speaker 2: hugely expensive cuts that won't cut the temperature by anything
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Speaker 2: anyone could detect. And another thing that I thought is
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Speaker 2: very telling. I always think this is telling. Once again,
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Speaker 2: not once in Bragg's long interview yesterday did even try
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Speaker 2: to argue that Australia going net zero but twenty fifty
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Speaker 2: makes sense because it's going to change the climate and
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Speaker 2: save the world from global warming, because that is just
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Speaker 2: too silly a nocean even for him. Of course it won't.
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Speaker 2: We're just too small, no for these liberals, and net
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Speaker 2: zero is all about the votes. That's it. They're vote chases.
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Speaker 2: As another liberal left wing it made perfect clear today.
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Speaker 5: In Waringa, in Wentworth, in reed In Hughes, in Banks.
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Speaker 5: They are telling me that they want to see credible
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Speaker 5: action on climate.
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Speaker 2: Who are these liberals? And the media flatteringly calls them
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Speaker 2: moderates as if you know the liberal right, Oh, they're
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Speaker 2: all extremists. These are the moderates for that senter that
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Speaker 2: you just heard Maria Coversick. She sounds at times actually
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Speaker 2: just like a Labor MP. No, it's great, you know,
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Speaker 2: I'll be fair to her. I've also heard to talk
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Speaker 2: about giving individuals more power and government off businesses back
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Speaker 2: and all that. That's great, but how can you tell
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Speaker 2: the difference between her and labor and other so called
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Speaker 2: progressives and Coversick then says this.
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Speaker 5: I'm proud to be a progressive Liberal. My brother Mutico
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Speaker 5: and I were fortunate to be born here in Nunnawold Country.
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Speaker 5: It is a migrant story, one that I share with
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Speaker 5: millions of Australians. Together, these stories are a part of
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Speaker 5: Australia's history, sitting alongside the experience of our indigenous first.
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Speaker 4: Peoples with over sixty.
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Speaker 5: Five thousand years of culture and custodianship. Modern challengers are
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Speaker 5: changing the role of government. National security threats, climate change,
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Speaker 5: unbridled big tech, inflation and economic uncertainty all require government action.
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Speaker 5: But because it is only as a collective that we
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Speaker 5: can address these problems.
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Speaker 2: Honestly, if I'd play that to you without giving you
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Speaker 2: a warning and telling you who it was, you would
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Speaker 2: guess I'm sure, Oh that was a Labor politician speaking.
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Speaker 2: Maybe a Greens one joining me is the panel Michael Kroger,
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Speaker 2: former Victorian Liberal President, Steve Conroy, former Labor senator and
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Speaker 2: Cabinet minister Michael Great to see you back. The Liberal
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Speaker 2: left said the Liberals must stick to net zero or
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Speaker 2: they will lose the next election. But then again, didn't
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Speaker 2: they promise net zero at the last two elections and
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Speaker 2: still get wiped out? So why we're promising that zero
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Speaker 2: work any better a third time.
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Speaker 1: Well, it was almost a precondition to running for parliament
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Speaker 1: that you running for to the government that you supported
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Speaker 1: net zero. That's that's why they ran with the last
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Speaker 1: two elections of Andrew. The problem is we introduced this.
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Speaker 1: We had a bipartisan position with Labor at the twenty
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Speaker 1: two election, the twenty five election, six months ago, we
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Speaker 1: were saying we're all in favor of net zero. This
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Speaker 1: is why it's so difficult now to turn the ship
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Speaker 1: in a completely different direction and say no, no, that's completely wrong.
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Speaker 1: Even though Chris Human correctly points out the world vibe
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Speaker 1: is changing, the world dynamic is changing against knit zero.
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Speaker 1: The problem on the Liberal Party's got is what we're
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Speaker 1: advocating is for four years, for four years, we were in.
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Speaker 2: Favor of it.
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Speaker 1: So now the challenge is to explain to people we're
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Speaker 1: not going to hit the twenty thirty target of forty
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Speaker 1: three percent. We're on twenty eight percent now, we have
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Speaker 1: been for three years and it hasn't reduced at all
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Speaker 1: according to according to statistics, it's still on twenty eight
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Speaker 1: percent now. The challenge is to delay twenty fifty, probably
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Speaker 1: keep the words in net zero, because that's what we've
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Speaker 1: been arguing for four years. But turn into an argument
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Speaker 1: about economics, which is, you know that renewables are the
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Speaker 1: most expensive form of energy, and that it is sending
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Speaker 1: our country to the wall, it's sending power bills through
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Speaker 1: the roof, and that's why we're delaying any kind of
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Speaker 1: target until the end of the century in accordance with
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Speaker 1: a Paris agreement. That's where I would land, because we're
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Speaker 1: you know, we're reaping what we sowed Andrew back in
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. And that's the problem.
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Speaker 2: I know, I know, I don't know whether you stick
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Speaker 2: to a stupidity that sloths you two elections and think
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Speaker 2: it's going to work better a third time. I really
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Speaker 2: don't say, Stephen, I know what you're going to say,
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Speaker 2: you know, make our wish come true, abandon at zero
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Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. But basically now I
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Speaker 2: am brought to sobs by this whole net zero thing.
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Speaker 2: I wish the liver just get on with it. You
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Speaker 2: know what they say about getting on the doing something
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Speaker 2: you or get off the pot. I want to go
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Speaker 2: then to the land rights claim over Melbourne. How does
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Speaker 2: any of this help Australia.
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Speaker 6: Well, I think we've seen land rights claims across much
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Speaker 6: of Australian They've been granted and the earth hasn't stopped turning.
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Speaker 6: Australians have by and large accepted these outcomes in many
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Speaker 6: cases around the country. And when you say you know
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Speaker 6: what's the good of it? Is there been any harm caused?
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Speaker 6: Are you objecting to h U Larou not be to
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Speaker 6: be able to climb on Arlaroo? I think the Australian
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Speaker 6: community you've accepted that readily, and no one's letter protested,
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Speaker 6: not even Pauline Hanson, who made a great show of
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Speaker 6: going to be one of the last people to climate
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Speaker 6: should know that they're protesting for U Laru. So I
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Speaker 6: think Australians can manage to cope with a land rights claim. Well,
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Speaker 6: we've been done accessibly for the best part of twenty
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Speaker 6: twenty five years.
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Speaker 2: I think if well, Ularu is not in Melbourne for
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Speaker 2: a start, But if you if there, you weren't fine
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Speaker 2: for claiming Ularu. I bet you tomorrow if they drop
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Speaker 2: the van, that rock would be absolutely covered by Australians
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Speaker 2: enjoying themselves for the first time in years on Ularu.
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Speaker 2: But Michael to you, how does any of this help
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Speaker 2: Australia a land claim over Melbourne.
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Speaker 1: Well it doesn't, and there's already claim over this under
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Speaker 1: Victorian legislation. But it gets back to the principal argument
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Speaker 1: in relation with Aborginal affairs, which is where is the harm,
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Speaker 1: Where is the damage being done, and it's being done
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Speaker 1: in small communities. Domestic violence, rape, murder, alcoholism, unemployment, these
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Speaker 1: serious problems that we've seen in Alice Springs and other
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Speaker 1: parts of Australia. That's where all of these activists should
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Speaker 1: be concentrating their efforts, not in the symbolism of Victorian's
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Speaker 1: version of the Voice which has just passed through the
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Speaker 1: Victorian Parliament. We don't need more activists getting highly paid
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Speaker 1: jobs in the cities. What we need people who are
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Speaker 1: down to worth with doing practical work to help the
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Speaker 1: seriously disadvantaged Aboriginals in our country. And that's what every
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Speaker 1: Australian wants. That's what every Australian wants. One hundred percent
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Speaker 1: of Australia wants that, as we saw forty percent want
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Speaker 1: these Canberra based highly paid professional activists supporting the Voice
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Speaker 1: and their equivalent here in Victoria.
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Speaker 2: Andrew I just don't see how this helps anyone to
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Speaker 2: be honest. And I find it ironic that many of
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Speaker 2: the people I've talked about the Aboriginal activisty to have
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Speaker 2: more blood of the British colonizers than I do, or
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Speaker 2: that you Michael, with a nice German name there. This
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Speaker 2: is a bit awkward, I think, and Stephen rebuke me
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Speaker 2: if I go too far. There have been lots of
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Speaker 2: eulogies today to do very Sydney figures who have died
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Speaker 2: on the weekend, two men I think would never have
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Speaker 2: had the same success in Victoria. Now there's Graham Richardson,
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Speaker 2: the former of the Labor powerbroker and minister and former
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Speaker 2: colleague here much liked in Sky News, a terrific political
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Speaker 2: and analyst, great company, and John Law's ledger is Sydney Broadcast,
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Speaker 2: a long time rating scheme with a great year for
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Speaker 2: listening to his guests, great year for the suburbs. And
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Speaker 2: the greatest voice for radio i've heard here is Hello World.
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Speaker 6: This is John Laves. He was a Tom Jones of
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Speaker 6: talkback radio.
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Speaker 2: Now the Prime Minister today. Stephens also Sydney Boy, paid
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Speaker 2: tribute to both men. But the reason I doubt that
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Speaker 2: have lasted in Melbourne, both caught in shady financial shenanigans.
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Speaker 2: Richardson Avenue resign for helping a relative with a deal
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Speaker 2: also implicated afire and suspicious insurance payout involving some dubious
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Speaker 2: Sydney identities, and John Law's accepting cash for comment without
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Speaker 2: telling listeners to me pay to say nice things in
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Speaker 2: Sydney water and the bridge in our town, purit in Melbourne,
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Speaker 2: Steve Water enough to drown a reputation.
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Speaker 6: Well, look, it is very different environment Sidney and Melbourne.
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Speaker 6: There's no question about that. John Laws was a legend.
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Speaker 6: He I would never call him a shock shock. I
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Speaker 6: don't think my experience of occasionally being on his shows
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Speaker 6: in the latter part of his career and what I
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Speaker 6: knew of him, he wouldn't be what you'd call a
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Speaker 6: shock jock and Allen Pryce or Right Hadley ben Fordham,
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Speaker 6: so I don't think he fell into that category. So
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Speaker 6: I think he could have mellowed and been a Melbourne
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Speaker 6: person I think which I would have succeeded wherever he
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Speaker 6: was in terms of his political acumen. I mean think
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Speaker 6: about rich as he understood how people thoughts and if
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Speaker 6: he'd grown up in a Melbourne culture. I think he
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Speaker 6: would have, you know, with his wit, charm and determination
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Speaker 6: to make Labor Party relevant and not have that you know,
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Speaker 6: politics of the warming a glow as were used to say,
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Speaker 6: where you know, we're going to be one hundred percent
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Speaker 6: pure in our policy principles, even if it means we're
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Speaker 6: not in government. You know, rich I taught us all
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Speaker 6: or being in government is what you working Australians need
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Speaker 6: so labor can deliver policy. So I think I actually
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Speaker 6: think rich I could have succeeded no matter where he was.
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Speaker 6: Rich as the first person to say that he wasn't perfect,
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Speaker 6: and I think we can acknowledge that. We call him scallywag,
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Speaker 6: you know, lots of things, but.
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Speaker 2: It was fun under selling it a little bit to
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Speaker 2: be honest, micro amount of time, but just very very
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Speaker 2: quickly your your tape.
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Speaker 1: Well, it was a colorful Sydney political and media identity
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Speaker 1: was our friend Richo. But I think you're probably right
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Speaker 1: he wouldn't have Well, that's a my memories.
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Speaker 2: I go back.
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Speaker 1: I go back to the late eighties with Graham and
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Speaker 1: I started doing electronote coverages with him on Channel nine
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Speaker 1: and I had many, many great notes with him, and
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Speaker 1: he was he was the brain political brains of the
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Speaker 1: Hawk government. He was an outstanding labor thinker, strategist, political figure. Yes,
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Speaker 1: the Financial Review went and detail all of those things
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Speaker 1: that you're talking about today and their editorial, but as
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Speaker 1: someone had just come across him in the media and
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Speaker 1: really nowhere else he was. He was a great commentator
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Speaker 1: and a great political thinker.
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Speaker 2: Thank you both then for taking me away from what
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Speaker 2: could have been a nasty note on a yes sad day.
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much to you both, Michael Kirker and
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Speaker 2: Steve Conroy. But I do think colorful Sidney identity is
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Speaker 2: a bit rough. After the break, we'll talk about some
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Speaker 2: US decision by a former judge that opening the doors
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Speaker 2: as she did to the nets, to the transgender lobby
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Speaker 2: and particularly puberty blockist the children could have been a
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Speaker 2: very bad mistake. Now, the transgender movement has, in my opinion,
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Speaker 2: become absurdly extreme because it's so dangerous to argue back.
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Speaker 2: Now you take this case, we're a transgender woman now
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Speaker 2: using the name Jennifer Buckley, issuing a former Australian Breastfeeding
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Speaker 2: Association counselor Jasmine Sussex for alleged hates speech for calling
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Speaker 2: Buckley a pretend woman. That's Buckley on the right, a
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Speaker 2: pretend woman who was indulging in a bizarre act by
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Speaker 2: claiming to have breastfed Buckley's baby for a week after
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Speaker 2: taking lots of drugs to be able to excrete some fluid. Now, yes, rude, perhaps,
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Speaker 2: but that gets you in court now facing damages. So
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Speaker 2: perhaps this is fear of challenging, explains other News today. Now,
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Speaker 2: I've warned for years the transgender movement risk doing terrible
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Speaker 2: damage to children, and in fact the casts inquiry to
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Speaker 2: Britain's Gender Identity Services actually warned it could impact those
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Speaker 2: who were maybe struggling with complex issues like autism, with
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Speaker 2: sexual abuse, with trauma, confusion with same sex attraction. Yet
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Speaker 2: they were given drugs to suppress their puberty. Some later
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Speaker 2: mutilated breasts, removed, gentles removed or reshaped. Well. Now, our
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Speaker 2: former Chief Justice of the Family Court, who first ruled
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Speaker 2: twelve years ago that teenagers could get puberty blockers without
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Speaker 2: court approval, now says whoops. Diana Bryant says the expert
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Speaker 2: evidence she was given back then that puberty blockers were
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Speaker 2: safe and reversible was potentially wrong, and if I had
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Speaker 2: the evidence that's now becoming available, a certainly doubt that
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Speaker 2: I would have come to the conclusion that we should
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Speaker 2: move to the general view that court approval wasn't needed
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Speaker 2: for puberty blockers. And she said she was struck by
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Speaker 2: a lecture this year by psychologist Professor Sally Maxendale who's explained, look,
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Speaker 2: the brain of an adolescent develops in stages you disrupted
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Speaker 2: with puberty blockers, then that development at that stage could
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Speaker 2: be permanently affected, can't be reversed. And she said that
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Speaker 2: claims by transgender lobbyist, doctors, etc. That these drugs are
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Speaker 2: safe and reversible could be false and not one good
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Speaker 2: study was done to back their claims.
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Speaker 7: How can we say that these things are reversible when
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Speaker 7: nobody has bothered to look And it is an outrage
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Speaker 7: that nobody has bothered to look, given what we know
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Speaker 7: about brain development.
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Speaker 2: Joining me is Claire Row are leading psychologists who specializes
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Speaker 2: in children and families. Claire Rot, thank you so much
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Speaker 2: for your time. This is so shocking. How could so
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Speaker 2: many children in Australia have been given such life changing
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Speaker 2: drugs without concrete studies? The backup doctors claims that they
23:10
Speaker 2: were safe and that any effects could be reversed if
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Speaker 2: they changed their minds. Yeah, it is.
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Speaker 7: It is an extraordinary and very welcome development by what's
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Speaker 7: happened in the last twenty four hours in Australia's debate
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Speaker 7: around gender medicine and kid and kids and so, to
23:27
Speaker 7: just reiterate, back in two tenty thirteen, we had this
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Speaker 7: case called Red Jamie that changed everything. And before that
23:37
Speaker 7: you needed, you know, parents and doctors and the family
23:41
Speaker 7: court to agree before you started a child on stage
23:44
Speaker 7: one puberty blockers, and back then the Chief Justice Diana
23:48
Speaker 7: Bryant removed that safeguard, so it eventually essentially opened up
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Speaker 7: the pathway for all these children to start gender medicine
23:59
Speaker 7: very early. Look, I do commend Diana Bryant for her
24:02
Speaker 7: bravery in coming out in saying that if that case
24:05
Speaker 7: was to sit today with what we know now, it
24:08
Speaker 7: is an acknowledgment that the outcome would be very different.
24:13
Speaker 7: And at the time that was kind of heralded as
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Speaker 7: a human rights victory that all these kids could be
24:18
Speaker 7: pushed through. But essentially now it's extraordinary because it's saying
24:24
Speaker 7: that the very foundation of that ruling back in twenty thirteen.
24:28
Speaker 7: That is, the scientific assurances given to the court that
24:32
Speaker 7: these puberty blockers are reversible and safe is false, and
24:38
Speaker 7: we know that now we have a lot more information
24:40
Speaker 7: now in twenty twenty five that these puberty blockers are
24:44
Speaker 7: not reversible. They impact on bone density, on brain development,
24:49
Speaker 7: of sexual maturation, and we know that ninety six percent
24:54
Speaker 7: of kids who start on these puberty blockers go forth
24:57
Speaker 7: to stage two, which is pumping their body sort of
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Speaker 7: cross sex hormones. Now, the activists will tell you, Andrew
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Speaker 7: that that's because oh, look, we've encapsulated all these trans kids.
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Speaker 7: None of them are desisting and none of them are stopping.
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Speaker 7: But in fact, what we now know is that puberty
25:13
Speaker 7: blockers do not provide this neutral, safe environment that buys kids' time.
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Speaker 7: It actually sets them forth on this very medicalized pathway.
25:25
Speaker 7: And the thing that's frustrating is that over the rest
25:27
Speaker 7: of the world we've got Sweden and Finland and Norway
25:30
Speaker 7: and now the UK all pulling back dramatically, particularly since
25:36
Speaker 7: the CAST review revealed there's just no good evidence that
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Speaker 7: puberty blockers that stage one of medical treatment even assist
25:44
Speaker 7: with mental health and Australia just keeps it persisting. So
25:48
Speaker 7: I do commend the ex Chief Justice Diana Bryant. I
25:51
Speaker 7: do know her for coming out she's in retirement, but
25:54
Speaker 7: for coming out and stating that Australia's family caught back
25:58
Speaker 7: in twenty thirteen got it wrong.
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Speaker 2: I've just got to back you up there in congratulating
26:06
Speaker 2: Dana Brooks is a very hard thing to say. Well,
26:09
Speaker 2: my judgment was made on bad evidence, and I've got
26:12
Speaker 2: to say she had to follow the evidence in front
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Speaker 2: of her and if the evidence is bad, it's not
26:17
Speaker 2: challenged what she to do. But what does it say
26:22
Speaker 2: that this potentially false claim about safe puberty blockers was
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Speaker 2: made and was reinforced by gender clinics, by the courts,
26:31
Speaker 2: by politicians, by activists, and again all of it without
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Speaker 2: concrete proof.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it is still happening, Andrew that this is the difficulty.
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Speaker 7: We still have activists running sentence, like the Royal Children's
26:45
Speaker 7: Hospital in Melbourne their gender clinic. We still have activists
26:49
Speaker 7: who are not putting science and child development and evidence
26:53
Speaker 7: at the very forefront of this debate. And if you
26:55
Speaker 7: bring forth such research, which there has been mountains over
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Speaker 7: over the last ten years, you're suddenly in an ideological
27:03
Speaker 7: argument about trans children. So I think the pathway forward
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Speaker 7: is correct as Miss Brighton is now spelling out, and
27:13
Speaker 7: that is when this needs to be regulated by Parliament.
27:16
Speaker 7: I don't think it can be left to activist doctors
27:20
Speaker 7: or judges interpreting what is very emotional cases with children,
27:26
Speaker 7: you know. And also she pointed out what I've been
27:28
Speaker 7: saying for a long time, this really obvious contradiction that
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Speaker 7: we don't treat any other form of medicine in this way.
27:35
Speaker 4: If a child has cancer.
27:37
Speaker 7: We do not allow a child to say, you know,
27:39
Speaker 7: do you want treatment and what type of treatment? But
27:42
Speaker 7: in gender medicine we told it must be child led, okay,
27:47
Speaker 7: even when these treatments are experimental and irreversible. And that
27:52
Speaker 7: is what most of the general public I think are
27:55
Speaker 7: completely unaware of. I think that most people would assume
27:59
Speaker 7: that they are safe guards in place, that children have
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Speaker 7: to go through twelve months of therapy and counseling before
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Speaker 7: being put through medicalized pathways, and that is simply not true.
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Speaker 4: It is not happening.
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Speaker 7: Children can get access to puberty blockers and c sex
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Speaker 7: foremones very early on, way before the age of sixteen
28:18
Speaker 7: years old, with very little holistic psychological look at what
28:23
Speaker 7: else is.
28:24
Speaker 4: Going on in their lives.
28:26
Speaker 7: And like most things in Australia, we have not taken
28:30
Speaker 7: notice of the rest of the world who have shut
28:32
Speaker 7: down their gender affirming clinics overseas. We are completely ideologically
28:38
Speaker 7: captured by this governmental departments, governmental funded mental health clinics.
28:45
Speaker 7: My own profession is completely captured by gender affirming care
28:51
Speaker 7: and where we shouldn't be shut down by absolutely having
28:55
Speaker 7: a debate that is just centered on the overwhelming research
28:59
Speaker 7: and evidence that now says that this is extremely experimental
29:03
Speaker 7: medicine and needs to stop.
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Speaker 2: Well, I just want to pick up on that point
29:09
Speaker 2: you made about child led treatment, where the children get
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Speaker 2: the same in how they're treated. In fact, there's the
29:18
Speaker 2: cast inquiry in Britain that was done into this into
29:22
Speaker 2: gender affirming cares so to speak, said that a lot
29:26
Speaker 2: of the kids that they were looking at had other
29:29
Speaker 2: issues that might have affected the way they saw things.
29:33
Speaker 2: They may be autistic, they come from broken homes, to
29:36
Speaker 2: traumatized in some ways, etc. Et cetera, and that condition
29:40
Speaker 2: perhaps was the one that should have been treated, not
29:43
Speaker 2: this idea that they were born in the wrong body,
29:46
Speaker 2: which in some cases turned out to be irreversible if
29:50
Speaker 2: they got the treatment that they were asking for. Claire Rot,
29:53
Speaker 2: thank you so much indeed for your time. Thank you
30:00
Speaker 2: break the great Australian Bassett Race. Yesterday the winner's announced
30:05
Speaker 2: and the one thing that spoiled my brilliant weekend trip.
30:08
Speaker 2: So the loveliest part of our country, damn wind Farms.
30:16
Speaker 2: I had a terrific weekend get away down in southern Gippsland.
30:20
Speaker 2: Nothing prettier in Australia and surreal Australia. You know, the
30:24
Speaker 2: quirky one service stations with freezers full of bait and
30:28
Speaker 2: cottages near the entrance of Wilson's prom so that even
30:32
Speaker 2: the working class can holiday in paradise. But they are
30:36
Speaker 2: also artisan cheeses. About the best lot of oil eve
30:38
Speaker 2: ever tasted in a daily armenion and two Indian guns
30:42
Speaker 2: at welshful of all places, not just selling petrol but
30:45
Speaker 2: also their terrific courage to go with it. It's also
30:49
Speaker 2: uniquely Australian. By the highway they called to Mead Farm
30:55
Speaker 2: and Cafe. I saw sign Bassett Hound Races. It was
31:01
Speaker 2: they had held it yesterday. Eight heats of bassett hounds
31:05
Speaker 2: with toy jockeys on their back racing well, if you
31:08
Speaker 2: can call it that. Since one and Heat five laid
31:12
Speaker 2: pause in the air at the start of a race
31:15
Speaker 2: won by Patty Furlong by three, we might wait my left.
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Speaker 8: Would you like to handle at home? I found is
31:36
Speaker 8: very late, tushing, you're very high?
31:41
Speaker 4: Are we ready?
31:43
Speaker 2: Okay?
31:43
Speaker 1: Five?
31:44
Speaker 2: P three who one? Of course you want to know
32:03
Speaker 2: the grand final winner where it was ripper mate. But
32:07
Speaker 2: as always in Country Australia, you know, the real hero
32:12
Speaker 2: of a trip is the landscape. Now in this one,
32:16
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been to Tuscany, should have saved my
32:19
Speaker 2: money because the stretch of lucky Rangers, I tell you
32:22
Speaker 2: what stunned me better, greener, less, tamed, achingly beautiful, with
32:29
Speaker 2: the Wilson's prom and the coast all visible from the
32:33
Speaker 2: highest hills and from our cabin at one Tree Hill.
32:36
Speaker 2: But how can a country this beautiful be this brainess?
32:40
Speaker 2: We saw wind towels even from there, luckily in the
32:44
Speaker 2: far distance and tucked behind another cabin. But again and again,
32:49
Speaker 2: in this gorgeous part of Australia, we saw them coming
32:53
Speaker 2: over the hills, crashing those hills of Kilcunda past the
32:57
Speaker 2: Philip Island turn off. When you see bass straight from
32:59
Speaker 2: the first time there they are straight in front of
33:01
Speaker 2: your six wind towers, vandalizing the views in the Straszuki Ranges.
33:07
Speaker 2: More manners like the wind farm at Toura that looms
33:10
Speaker 2: right over that town with the lovely rangers behind. How
33:14
Speaker 2: man the magnificent prom in front. I mean, which politicians
33:18
Speaker 2: said yes to wind farms in our most beautiful spots
33:22
Speaker 2: and often on the highest bits too, to catch the
33:25
Speaker 2: wind and to dominate the view. Now I know it's
33:30
Speaker 2: not just the Victoria. Only last month billionaire Andrew Forrest
33:35
Speaker 2: opened his new Clark Creek wind farm. The towns are
33:39
Speaker 2: two hundred and seven meters tall up in central Queensland,
33:44
Speaker 2: between Rockhampton and Mackay. I mean again, lovely countryside, absolutely
33:49
Speaker 2: desecrated by people thinking that by destroying nature they're actually
33:53
Speaker 2: saving the planet, you know, global warming and all that.
33:57
Speaker 2: Some hope we can now start to fix this vandalism
34:01
Speaker 2: if we have a mind to. Those two Gibson wind
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Speaker 2: farms are mentioned are now among Australia's oldest and reaching
34:10
Speaker 2: the end of their operational lifespan for a wind farms
34:12
Speaker 2: usually twenty to thirty years. These wind generators are kilcunda.
34:16
Speaker 2: They were built twenty years ago and at two or
34:18
Speaker 2: twenty three years ago, so time to blow them up,
34:22
Speaker 2: tear them down, drag away their plastic carcasses. But we
34:28
Speaker 2: should never never replace them because we have to retain
34:33
Speaker 2: and restore our landscape to be once again a complete
34:36
Speaker 2: refuge for the soul. Join me of Skynia's regular Joe
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Speaker 2: Hildebrand and Mia Schlith, Research Fellow at the Institute of
34:45
Speaker 2: Public Affairs. Mia, how can we do this stuff to
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Speaker 2: our landscape and to the most beautiful parts of it?
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Speaker 9: Because Andrew were falls politicians here in Australia. They are
34:59
Speaker 9: fools and the unfortunate truth is this are wind You know,
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Speaker 9: infrastructure isn't just tearing apart our natural landscape, which is
35:06
Speaker 9: absolutely just terrible. It's also dividing our communities and destroying
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Speaker 9: our agricultural land land that we all rely upon for
35:14
Speaker 9: the food and the fiber of this nation. And that's
35:17
Speaker 9: why we've got so many communities across the country fighting
35:20
Speaker 9: back against this. And just last week I was in
35:23
Speaker 9: Aubrey launching the IPA's new renewable Rejections data, which is
35:27
Speaker 9: a national record of over one hundred and fifty communities
35:31
Speaker 9: that are fighting back against renewable infrastructure in their area.
35:35
Speaker 9: And since we launched this database in just a week,
35:37
Speaker 9: we have had dozens of new communities coming forward emailing
35:41
Speaker 9: their requests because they want to be on the record
35:45
Speaker 9: fighting against this just terrible, terrible infrastructure. But as always,
35:49
Speaker 9: if you want to know why this is going up,
35:51
Speaker 9: you have to follow the money that will answer the question.
35:54
Speaker 9: And here it's because there are billions of dollars in
35:56
Speaker 9: subsidies that Australians are paying for and hidden charge on
36:00
Speaker 9: their power bills are going to companies mainly overseas.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm paying for the views to be ricked. Joe Hildebrand.
36:09
Speaker 2: I know that you know global warming, you think it's
36:12
Speaker 2: a serious issue needs the attending. But seriously, do these
36:17
Speaker 2: wind farms make your heart go pit a pamp or
36:20
Speaker 2: do you think, oh my gosh, that is a shame.
36:22
Speaker 3: No, they certainly don't make my heart go pitter. Pat Andrew,
36:25
Speaker 3: I know really well the country that you're talking about.
36:28
Speaker 3: It is incredibly beautiful. I've been there many times. I've
36:30
Speaker 3: a very close connection to it. I mean, if global
36:35
Speaker 3: warming could be addressed adequately without building a single wind farm,
36:39
Speaker 3: I'd much rather that. I suppose the hard truth is,
36:43
Speaker 3: the real politic is that these things have to go somewhere.
36:47
Speaker 3: They need to go where the wind is blowing. They
36:49
Speaker 3: need to go within a feasible distance of existing infrastructure
36:54
Speaker 3: so they can connect to the grid. And that it
36:57
Speaker 3: seems that this location is one of the ones that
37:00
Speaker 3: was chosen that was able to actually attract the investment,
37:04
Speaker 3: because of course we know that there were some offshore
37:06
Speaker 3: wind farms of Victoria that actually failed to proceed because
37:11
Speaker 3: they did not get the overseas investment that they needed.
37:14
Speaker 3: And I would much rather have wind farms way off
37:17
Speaker 3: past the horizon, offshore where no one could see them.
37:21
Speaker 3: But again, I suppose this is the price we pay
37:23
Speaker 3: for economic development, the surprise we pay for progress. There
37:27
Speaker 3: will be you know, again, they've got to make sure
37:29
Speaker 3: that farming communities are on board with this. But there
37:31
Speaker 3: are people who say that farming itself is defacing the
37:33
Speaker 3: environment because there was once pristine forest there and now
37:37
Speaker 3: that's been cleared. And again I'm not of that view,
37:39
Speaker 3: And there'd be people who say that, you know, will
37:41
Speaker 3: the places where a lot of our coal mines used
37:43
Speaker 3: to be probably looked pretty beautiful once upon a time
37:46
Speaker 3: as well. So you know, in the perfect world, none
37:49
Speaker 3: of those incredibly pristine environments would be affected. But if
37:54
Speaker 3: this is something we are going to do to keep
37:55
Speaker 3: up with the rest of the world, then this is
37:58
Speaker 3: something that's going to happen.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, keep up with the rest of the world.
38:02
Speaker 2: Really are we in that competition? And I wouldn't call
38:04
Speaker 2: it development, Joe, This is anti development, of course, guys.
38:07
Speaker 2: I've produced electricity too expensive and irregular for business to use.
38:11
Speaker 2: But anyway, look, it's just so. But the thing is mire,
38:15
Speaker 2: it's not just here, you know, this strange thinking that
38:19
Speaker 2: we've got to save the planet by destroying the planet
38:22
Speaker 2: that's run in front of our eyes. Tomorrow the annual
38:25
Speaker 2: United Nations Climate Conference will start and it's being held
38:30
Speaker 2: this time in the Amazon Jungle, believe it or not.
38:33
Speaker 2: To help the fifty thousand delegates get to the host city,
38:36
Speaker 2: Bellm Brazil has slashed a new four lane highway right
38:42
Speaker 2: through protected Amazonian rainforests. I mean, these are trees being
38:46
Speaker 2: destroyed that normally would suck carbon dioxide from the air.
38:51
Speaker 2: You know, all destroyed for cars of all things. Sort
38:54
Speaker 2: of symbolic, isn't it, Well, it is.
38:59
Speaker 9: It is the greatest hypocrisy. And let's just wait, because
39:02
Speaker 9: sooner won't just be making room for cars. I'm sure
39:04
Speaker 9: they'll have to build a new airport very soon to
39:07
Speaker 9: make way for all the private jets that will be
39:08
Speaker 9: coming in for those UN conferences. But the sad thing
39:11
Speaker 9: is it's not just the UN who is out of touch.
39:14
Speaker 9: And we've known for so long. UN's got no idea
39:16
Speaker 9: what's going on in the real world. But as we've
39:18
Speaker 9: just discussed, we're doing it here in Australia. We are
39:21
Speaker 9: destroying our natural environment. And for what cause. We do
39:25
Speaker 9: this all in the name of global emissions. But Australia
39:28
Speaker 9: emits in one year what China emits in just twelve days.
39:33
Speaker 9: We are committing this outrageous act of self harm, all
39:36
Speaker 9: in the name of an ideological target that will do
39:39
Speaker 9: no good for the greater environment in general. I just
39:42
Speaker 9: think it's incredibly rich that we have all these InnerCity
39:45
Speaker 9: elites who are peddling these policies, but they're not the
39:48
Speaker 9: ones who need to have these wind turbines, these solar
39:51
Speaker 9: panels or these transmission lines built in their own backyard.
39:57
Speaker 2: Do you know, I think, Joe, do you think it's
39:58
Speaker 2: time that you know the pro you know, the Teal
40:02
Speaker 2: voters in seats ringer on Sydney's coast, that they have
40:06
Speaker 2: the wind farms in their suburb. Yeah, I think you.
40:09
Speaker 3: Would definitely see a very different set of values quickly
40:13
Speaker 3: emerge if there it was their own political lives that
40:15
Speaker 3: were on the line for these things. And I've spoken
40:17
Speaker 3: to people in coal communities in the Upper Hunter just
40:20
Speaker 3: in fact, after the Tials got elected, and they were
40:23
Speaker 3: just absolutely appalled at the sort of hypocrisy where they
40:26
Speaker 3: were demanding that these workers in these and you know,
40:29
Speaker 3: in these coal mines they lost all their jobs, while
40:32
Speaker 3: at the same time objecting to even I think there
40:34
Speaker 3: was someone who objected to a collective battery being built
40:37
Speaker 3: in one of their electorates.
40:39
Speaker 2: Behind you, But I look behind you, mate, that Sydney Opera,
40:43
Speaker 2: that Sydney Harbor Bridge, beautiful position for three or four
40:47
Speaker 2: wind to howls. Right, that's that's right, you can see
40:50
Speaker 2: the flying well. I'd like to get rid of one
40:56
Speaker 2: of them. But anyway, Mischlicht and Joe hildemand thank you
40:59
Speaker 2: very much to you both. Thanks after the break, our
41:03
Speaker 2: ABC won't even admit to bias. But in Britain it's BBC.
41:07
Speaker 2: It's just lost two bosses after their own bias scandal
41:11
Speaker 2: and the doctor ing of Donald Trump quote has such
41:17
Speaker 2: a contrast. In Australia, our ABC won't even admit it's
41:21
Speaker 2: got a left wing bias from top to bottom. You
41:24
Speaker 2: can tell you any kind of popular left wing untruth.
41:29
Speaker 2: Donald Trump colluded with Russia to steel an election, the
41:32
Speaker 2: innocent George Pell rape children. Global warming has drowning Pacific
41:37
Speaker 2: islands like two Valu and kiribash On. It goes no apology.
41:41
Speaker 2: But in Britain the director general and head of News
41:45
Speaker 2: have both just resigned after a former BBC or This
41:50
Speaker 2: is the BBC after a former advisor accused the BBC
41:55
Speaker 2: of serious and systemic bias and proved it. Bias by
42:00
Speaker 2: the BBC censor and critics of the radical transgender movement,
42:03
Speaker 2: Bias in the BBC's coverage of Gaza. Bias by the
42:07
Speaker 2: BBC even doctoring a quote from Donald Trump to make
42:11
Speaker 2: it seem like incited a riot at the US capital
42:14
Speaker 2: after he lost in twenty twenty election. I'll show you
42:17
Speaker 2: what the BBC claimed he said, and then what he
42:21
Speaker 2: actually did say before the BBC deceitly added one quote
42:26
Speaker 2: from Trump to another that he said more than fifty
42:29
Speaker 2: minutes later to make him sound like he wanted violence.
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Speaker 8: We're going to walk down to the Capitol and I'll
42:37
Speaker 8: be there with you, and we fight.
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Speaker 2: We fight like hell. We're going to walk down to
42:43
Speaker 2: the Capitol.
42:47
Speaker 8: And we're going to cheer on our brave senators and
42:52
Speaker 8: congressmen and women.
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Speaker 2: And then more than fifty seconds later, he said, and
42:57
Speaker 2: will fight, fight like hell. In another content, BBC added
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Speaker 2: them together, Join me from London is writer broadcast and commentated,
43:05
Speaker 2: it's correctly, it's so great to see you now that
43:08
Speaker 2: this stocked quote by the BBC was actually done last
43:11
Speaker 2: year for the Panorama show. Why has it taken a
43:14
Speaker 2: year for this to blow up into a scandal and
43:17
Speaker 2: only now for the top BBC executives to resign.
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Speaker 10: I'm assuming because the BBC executives didn't assume that anyone,
43:25
Speaker 10: assumed that no one would notice. But what happened was
43:28
Speaker 10: this was as the result of a nineteen page dossier
43:31
Speaker 10: that was produced by a man who was an independent
43:35
Speaker 10: consultant for the BBC's own Ethics Advisory Board, so their
43:40
Speaker 10: own watchdog to make sure that they were maintaining impartiality
43:43
Speaker 10: standards within the organization. And he was so appalled by
43:46
Speaker 10: the reaction of the likes of Tim Davies, the Director General,
43:51
Speaker 10: and you know, the news editor and all these people
43:53
Speaker 10: at the top of the BBC making the decisions at
43:56
Speaker 10: the kind of nonchalance of the fact that he's saying, Hey,
43:58
Speaker 10: I've got nineteen pages of over fifty incidents, over fifty
44:02
Speaker 10: incidents of plane bias within the BBC, What are you
44:06
Speaker 10: doing about?
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Speaker 4: Why are you not reacting to it?
44:08
Speaker 10: And this video was just one of the latest leaks
44:11
Speaker 10: which was so egregious. I mean, the BBC couldn't even
44:14
Speaker 10: pretend that this was a slight error. To take a
44:16
Speaker 10: video of Donald Trump's speech and then to clip it
44:20
Speaker 10: two parts of the videos that was almost fifteen minutes
44:23
Speaker 10: apart is not a mistake.
44:25
Speaker 4: It's deliberately misleading the public.
44:28
Speaker 10: And he was kind of appalled at their reaction to
44:29
Speaker 10: this because it was clear that there was a sort
44:32
Speaker 10: of accepted view, a working view within people within within
44:37
Speaker 10: the BBC, within people who work within the BBC and
44:40
Speaker 10: it was just not acceptable and obviously Trump is not
44:42
Speaker 10: wanting to take something like this lying down.
44:44
Speaker 4: I mean, you just got to pay out from CBS over.
44:46
Speaker 10: The sixteen minutes interview with Kamala Harris, so you know,
44:49
Speaker 10: he amplified this story and just showed how much the
44:52
Speaker 10: BBC has lost its way. It's important to know that
44:54
Speaker 10: when you're a public broadcaster, the reason why trust is
44:57
Speaker 10: so important is because you have a guaranteed income from
45:00
Speaker 10: pairs and this is why it draws so much criticism.
45:03
Speaker 10: Could you imagine any other media platform, Sky, for example,
45:07
Speaker 10: doing something like this, doctoring a speech of Donald Trump
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Speaker 10: like this and just getting away with a pass on
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Speaker 10: the shoulder, or you know, just saying, oh, but the
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Speaker 10: BBC does so many great things.
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Speaker 4: This is the public broadcaster.
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Speaker 10: When you have a guarantee source of income, you kind
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Speaker 10: of lose the incentive to behave correctly and to be
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Speaker 10: truthful and to actually show both sides of any story.
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Speaker 4: And that's what's happened to the BBC.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think there are two issues as you
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Speaker 2: as you suggest. One is of course simply the dishonesty,
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Speaker 2: but the other it's a special responsibility of any state broadcaster.
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Speaker 2: For me, the bias of the ABC here is a
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Speaker 2: form of theft. All taxpayers must give their money to
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Speaker 2: an organization that, under the stature, is supposed to be impartial.
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Speaker 2: In fact, it's being looted by the LIFT to turn
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Speaker 2: the ABC into an ideological weapon of the Lift. These examples,
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Speaker 2: you may all these examples of biased by the BBC.
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Speaker 2: Let me get every single one that you know of
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Speaker 2: is biased to the LIFT.
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Speaker 10: Oh of course, I mean I say this as personally
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Speaker 10: someone who's personally agreeved because I've just had to pay
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Speaker 10: my license fee in the UK, which annoys me so much.
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Speaker 10: But the BBC has had even more egregious slip ups
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Speaker 10: like this, like, for example, they had a Gaza documentary
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Speaker 10: how to Survive a war Zone, and they just conveniently
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Speaker 10: forgot to tell the viewers that the narrator was the
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Speaker 10: son of a her Mass official. This thirteen year old
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Speaker 10: boy was the son of a her Mass official. They've
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Speaker 10: recently found against one of their own presenters because she
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Speaker 10: replaced the term pregnant people with women. Again, where is
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Speaker 10: the common sense here? They refuse to call her Mass
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Speaker 10: a terrorist group, even though they're designated and they have
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Speaker 10: been designated a terrorist group in full since twenty twenty one,
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Speaker 10: so they don't even using the legal definitions of the
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Speaker 10: country which.
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Speaker 4: They meant to represent.
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Speaker 10: And this is the point, and I find it actually
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Speaker 10: astonishing like we've even got anywhere with this, because every
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Speaker 10: time these accusations are leveled at the BBC, it's all, oh,
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Speaker 10: it's just biased, Oh it's just competitors is trying to
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Speaker 10: tag the BBC. No, when you have guaranteed income from taxpayers,
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Speaker 10: the bare minimum that taxpay taxpayers can expect is honesty
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Speaker 10: and truth and fact based information regardless of where you lean,
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Speaker 10: and you just you can see that from the kinds
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Speaker 10: of people that have left the BBC and have had
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Speaker 10: independent careers as pundits or journalists like Emily maitlists. They're
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Speaker 10: all overwhelmingly left wing. They all bring middle class children
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Speaker 10: from around the London area, wealthy London boroughs. Those are
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Speaker 10: the people that become interns and they funnel their way
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Speaker 10: up to the top of the BBC. So it's very
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Speaker 10: not representative of people's views around the country. And this
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Speaker 10: is what you're seeing now.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's extraordinary. I mean, we've got a ABC that's
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Speaker 2: so just as basted as the ABC as your BBC.
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Speaker 2: But I don't see the same accountability very very quickly.
47:48
Speaker 2: Why has this happened under a labor government is just
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Speaker 2: bubbled over.
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Speaker 10: Well, the BBC's Royal charter is up in a few years,
47:56
Speaker 10: so this is not something that the labor government can
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Speaker 10: kind of void because people are getting more and more
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Speaker 10: aggravated that we're going to have we have to pay
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Speaker 10: for the license fee. It's a legal obligation, and yet
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Speaker 10: there is no there's no accountability. And as many of
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Speaker 10: your viewers may know, the labor government is not known
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Speaker 10: for being representative of people's views of being quite friendly
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Speaker 10: to free speech. We remember last summer that kisam are
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Speaker 10: basically people agitated about mass immigration, far right thugs. So
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Speaker 10: clearly they had to act because I think they are
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Speaker 10: wish also act.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got to go and said, look Esther crack
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Speaker 2: you thank you so much. That's it for me, coming
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Speaker 2: up now, Sherry Maxon good Night