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Episode 1: Bethesda..what happened? · WASD and Beyond

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Hello. Hello.
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Hello and thank you for joining us today.
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The wasd and Beyond podcast. I'm your coach.
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I am your host Matt and joining me today is my asshole of a
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co-host Nick. How's it going?
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I'm not an asshole. I mean you're kind of hard to
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deal with sometimes what have I done?
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We'll talk about that later. Also, I got the insurer right
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this time. You did very proud of you think
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I know right? I stumbled it so hard in the
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intro and I had I didn't realize it until afterwards and then I
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was like fuck I don't want to re-record.
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It's fine. We'll just deal with it.
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Yeah, it's okay. It's the intro whatever wait,
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are you wearing a Darth Vader t-shirt?
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Yeah, my brother got it for me when he was in New Orleans New
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Orleans you kind of dig it is kind of a sick shirt.
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It's not too bad. I you mainly use it as like a
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workout shirt, but I don't know man.
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That's kind of a cool t-shirt. It's kind of rad.
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I'm not gonna lie. Oh my God.
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Alright anyways continuing on we are here to talk about Bethesda
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today. Oh boy.
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Everyone's favorite company right now.
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So to save you the hassle from what we're about to be talking
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about here is the general consensus but Bethesda.
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Oh, yeah hard fuck with us de II just I'm so after everything
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that's been going on lately. I am just unnerved by how
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quickly they have fallen like from Grace's in just the last
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year like literally they were on everyone's good side still for
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the most part before Fallout 76 launched and literally
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everything since that Year's E3 like until now has been just
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absolutely like what the fuck is happening.
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It's literally crumbled in front of them.
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Everything is like you look at a company like Bethesda with Elder
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Scrolls and Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 kind of those then you
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look at that company like oh Okay, cool.
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But as day like when they put something out you pay attention
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you you make sure you pick that game up for the next big
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adventure game. So what the fuck is false 76
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because it's not what it was. It's not what looked it looked
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like a III. I mean the even the concept they
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showed us at E3 was sweet. It just wasn't executed.
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I mean, I don't know about you but I never really asked for a
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multiplayer Fallout game in the first place.
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I really need it was asking for the I was asking for like Co-op
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like I wanted to be like my own server with like you guys.
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Yeah, like our Discord like all fucking around on our own little
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tiny world. I wasn't looking for PVP.
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I'm gonna play BB I'm gonna play Call of Duty like its fall out
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and therefore the story and then to fuck around.
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Well, then it's like they you're putting Fallout players in the
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Fallout universe together, right?
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Hmm. Okay.
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Well, they're like, well, what could possibly go wrong?
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Well, we're going to eliminate Griefers.
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Well, okay if I'm going to Universe if I'm playing follow
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with any other Fallout player. I expect it to be act just like
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Daisy where I don't know you you're going to try take my
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shit. So guess what?
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I am now going to kill you because fuck you your shit is my
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shit and I don't trust you right like any of the it's like a
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survival game, right like in any Survival game I've ever played
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the moment. I meet another player.
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I'm just like I'm gonna kill this guy before he kills me.
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Right that does the mentality going into fall out, especially
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if with PVP like with Fallout 76 like that's that was my
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mentality going. We're not going to talk about
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the moment. We're gonna get to that a little
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bit later basically. I'm just going to start from the
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beginning like okay. So for those who don't know
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about Bethesda, they as Nick was mentioning.
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They published games like the Elder Scrolls series very very
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great games Morrowind was pretty Sweeting.
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I didn't get to play too much of it because like I had to use a
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like, I think it's like a Windows XP.
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What's it called like a converter to play and I'm just
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like no I'm not doing that. Have you later?
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You're getting your thank you. Yeah, I had to go through all of
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that trouble to play but like no, thanks, but I remember
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playing Oblivion when I was a kid Oblivion was fucking sweet
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Skyrim even the Elder Scrolls Online.
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It's definitely gotten more popular now that they've fixed
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it and the more I Max, isn't it? Is that a Max which is like a
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sister and a thanks Studios, right?
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Yeah. Okay.
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Yeah. We take care of Elder Scrolls
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Online, right? Yeah.
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I mean zenimax is I pretty sure the The parent company of
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Bethesda, like I'm pretty sure they fully owned them.
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We could be wrong. We could be wrong.
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That's fine. Yeah regardless continue, but
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then they've also they have you know, they're also known for the
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The Fallout series, you know, they acquired the game and their
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first title was what Fallout 3. Yep.
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It was fault three and four Me Fallout 3 was one was the first
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but that's a game I ever played. Yeah.
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I did. I didn't start into the Elder
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Scrolls series. Turn it off with the Fallout
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series when it came to anything but Des Des so I remember
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playing Fallout 3 and I was like, this is amazing.
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But now I look back if all three I'm like hmm.
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Hmm still a good game, but it's not really Power store aged.
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Well, no, it definitely has not aged.
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Well, but here's the funny thing those same bugs that were in
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Fallout 3 aren't every fucking Bethesda game better.
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That is all right now, so whatever whatever, you know,
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what just keep going. Keep going.
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Please don't everybody also they have had six titles, like prey.
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They have the Dishonored series. They are publishing the Dhoom
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series from was ID software. Yeah, that'd be good.
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Yeah, they also do Wolfenstein. They published Wolfenstein.
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So those are like they're bigger titles.
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They're like bigger games that people would know them for
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especially like mine because they're cross-platform.
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They're not just PC like their consoles as well.
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But like so that's basically them and what they do now in the
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last year. Or actually, I'm sorry in the
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last 4 years. Their sales as a trend has
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literally been plummeting. Also, notably nose-diving.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So here I was looking up the sales figures of all the the
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last games in the last four years.
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Yeah Fallout 4 over everything had roughly a little under 15
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million copies sold. That's pretty good for AAA game.
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Yeah. Yeah, it's decent.
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Yeah, it doesn't compare to Skyrim Skyrim head like over 20
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million or something like that. Probably even more Skyrim also
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has a million different ports available for everybody and
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Alexa. That was fun.
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Anyways, that's just stupid. But no, but then you have games
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like okay. So since Fallout 4 you had
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Wolfenstein to that had only about 2 million sales roughly
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The Evil Within to the second. I forgot that of evils and
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series that mean it did it started off with in the like
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therefore the first week of her launch of launch wasn't too bad,
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but it was like like 800,000 less units than the original
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like the first title. So that's still a big drop to
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it's a bummer you have pray that didn't pull too many sales is
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like one and a half million the Dooms the Dhoom series are the
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last Doom release hit like three and a half million roughly.
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So like what you can see this downward trend of everything is
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just kind of failing like rage to for instance.
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There was reports of up to 75 percent lower.
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Sales for physical copies than the first range but it doesn't
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advertisement for that game too, dude.
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Yeah, but I mean that doesn't that also doesn't count like the
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first Rage being against like was came out before there was
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all these digital downloads like before that was the big thing.
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Well, yeah taking that into account though.
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It still was nearly only half the first Rage like it did not
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do that. Well, like it came out earlier
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this year. No one no one talks about it.
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No one plays it like that. I don't know anyone who really a
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game I've heard. I mean, it's okay from what I've
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heard, but I also didn't care about the first Rage.
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Yeah me either it looks very vibrant and colorful and the
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game like the Gunplay itself looks pretty decent but like
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from what her is, that's it though, like what you seen the
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trailers, that's just that's all you do that's rage.
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Yeah, and you just go around you shoot people who are apparently
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pretty dumb and that's it. Yeah.
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Let's see here. So I mean I don't I don't know
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if it's this like This nosedive in sales that's like attributing
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to like the bethesda's behavior recently.
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Dude, no, it's not just it should not the not just the
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sales just the quality of their fucking names.
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That's Behavioral eyes the the concept they're putting out.
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That's just them being dicks. Dude.
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They're just like not like really opening their eyes to
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what's going on like its it just seems ignorant to me to say
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Well, since their sales are plummeting therefore their
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content their games are getting worse.
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I don't think that's the case like if you look at Fallout 4,
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right and you really take a deep dive into fall for He realized
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it's just they take short cuts everywhere.
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I can go because Fallout 4 is on the same engine as Fallout 3,
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right the creation engine. It's just they take shortcuts to
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save money. So of course they're fucking
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products are be shit. Like there's start start to
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become shit when you're not staying with the times.
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I don't know man. I don't know.
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It's Just confuses me how he could be so fucking blind.
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Yeah, so like, you know, yeah, so when it comes to like the
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last the these last couple of months for those who don't know
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but as the released a service for a subscription service for
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Fallout 76, we're on the cheap and you can spend a hundred
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dollars a year to have features in the game that should be
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available to everyone especially after the dumpster fire of a
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launch. And just the dumpster fire of a
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game that it is. It should be something that is
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free and available to everyone but instead they're asking their
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loyal fence to pay a hundred dollars a year and that's cheap
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end. That's if you don't pay like I
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think it's like $13 a month that ends up like, you know, I
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remember exactly how much over a hundred fifty or some shit if
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you didn't pay your close to that.
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Yeah, and it's just outrageous that they add on top of that.
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They also delayed their big quote-unquote patch that was
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supposed to fix it and introduce NPCs back into the game and
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supposed to solve a lot of the issues that people have been
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complaining about that was supposed to come out this
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holiday season and they that got delayed yet.
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The subscription service was immediately implemented to try
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and grab more money. Which launched broken people
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even are you still here? The people the people who try to
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there was people who were trying to subscribe where they
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literally would not take their payment information.
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Oh my fucking god him which like I feel like they were doing you
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a service like, you know, if if it doesn't let you but like
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yeah, yeah exactly don't do it. But then like the one of the
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features is having like an unlimited stash box for like all
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of your junk you see ya. Except everything that people
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were putting into it was getting erased and permanently deleted.
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It's not persistent either is it I don't believe so I can't I
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don't I can't guarantee that but that like stash box that you
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you're supposed to be able to use literally everything that
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people are putting in it some like reports of just it being
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permanently deleted from the game essentially like that's
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supposed to hold your shit. You're paying to put everything
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you possibly could want in there not have to worry about your
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inventory. A space.
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Okay. I asked you out.
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The reason I asked you is persistent on the map was
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because what I heard was I don't know if it's necessarily harmsen
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truth. I'm not gonna Stick it to the
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truth. But I heard was after you end
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the instance on the server doesn't matter everything resets
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this from what some a couple people who play the game called
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me like there is those problems as well if that's the case
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that's fucking stupid from my I know I know it's I know it's
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client bait or like Owner based like if I were to host a server
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and I had everyone else in if I leave no one else gets to play
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it anymore. You know, you can only host a
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server on Armor for like 20 bucks a year I think is of shit
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and you could have up to like 60 players and people can just come
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and go as they won't cover goes. Yeah, that's ridiculous a
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hundred dollars a year to slap to the face.
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It's a literal slap that consumers face.
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And that's that's what I was bringing up the Salesforce in
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like like they are just continuously.
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Grabbing at money because I and I think it has something to do
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with their downward sales, but that's because their quality of
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their games has declined in and you can noticeably see that
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because their sales have been fucking declining like crazy.
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I don't trust that. I don't trust any game that has
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Bethesda on anymore. I'm sorry.
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I don't oh no, this is this is definitely the final straw for
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me because there's still a whole bunch of stuff.
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We haven't even touched on over that it has happened the last
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year really I am we are literally on 15 minutes and we
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have not Even scratch the surface like we have not even
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fucking scratch the surface of like getting our dicks left by
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Bethesda. They don't just they don't even
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let you finish. They just keep slapping it
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ridiculous. Dude.
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You want to I am terrified for the next Elder Scrolls game.
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Oh, I don't know. I really don't trust it.
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And then start what is the Starbound or Starfield start
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fluid? I think whatever star whatever
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that was delayed to of course it.
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Was dude. Exactly under the old creation
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engine to that. They just kind of put a Band-Aid
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on and go. Hey, look we fix that one bug
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like what I digress continue on. I mean I was gonna let you
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ramble for a bit but it's just like I remember playing The
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Fallout 76 beta and immediately. I was just like this game is
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gonna be fucking trash and we all played it together the our
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entire it's our entire Discord server.
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We all got our because the way it worked was if I got a beta
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code I got three extra beta codes.
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So if you get it over with mode you get three activated so our
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entire server had like a collective of like 16 extra beta
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codes that no one else wanted. There was like fuck you had my
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play this game and we eventually got a good amount of our guys to
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play. And the thing is when you first
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load in follow 76 it felt. Okay, when you're first doing
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the create the character creation your first kind of
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going through the quote-unquote fault.
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I would say being that there's no scenario that happens in the
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vault. It's just hey, this is like a
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player Hood essentially, but it's not a player Hood you're
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going to watch a random player run out into the into the
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Wasteland, and that's it. It's okay.
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I okay and then you go out there is just some kid calling you
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terrible things and try to punch you which will get you remember
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in the beta it was set to It is the default for the Mike was
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there was no I don't think I don't know if there wasn't a
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push to talk or if it was just the default was set to like open
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to local chat. It was open to it.
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It was horrible the moment you stepped into the game.
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Everyone was just screaming where every it was so horrible,
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but that's dude. Like that's like one thing and
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it how do you forget to put a push to talk?
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Or like a mute chat because I couldn't figure out a mute the
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chat. Yes, you had to you had to go
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through and in like your the run-up to the people and then in
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a individually like meet them. Oh that's annoying as fuck.
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I should be able to hit Tab and mute all like it should be just
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that easy. Yeah like so I guess what the
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further along we played Fallout 76 because we played for what
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about I two and a half hours in between grass in between the our
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first play of it. Between so many crashes
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somewhere in between in between the crashes.
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I'd say we all gave it about two hours of our time that night if
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I recall correctly, we all came back to it, but it just started
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to feel worse and worse because the initial Evan so it was like
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all of us and Evan. So a couple of dudes on the
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server and our friend Evan as well and he was really excited
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to go find them off man one we all want where then we all want
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to find them off man. I don't being cited for that.
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And then on the other side the map there was kids fighting
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something that looked supposed to be the Mothman you get there.
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There's no fucking Mothman. There's no fucking Cryptids and
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there's nothing it was bullshit. He was bullshit and then like so
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like whatever or whatever I remember.
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I remember just feeling like stoked at first during the E3
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conference America the excited. I remember playing the beta and
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feeling just worse and worse and worse and worse as I went along
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and then I spent the 60 bucks and bought the game and I
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immediately fucking hated who I was as a as a person.
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I was mad. I was pissed I downloaded it.
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I was like, okay, maybe they'll fix it.
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I didn't want to read reviews. I have a Pip-Boy tattooed on me,
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right? So I want to give it my
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attention I want are trusted And then I buy the game and
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immediately but that is De and Todd Howard bend me over and
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just have their way with me and I'm not stoked on it.
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I'm not soaked at that happened. I'm not proud to say they did
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that. They want my $60 back and guess
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what? It's gone Briella and they never
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come back in my wallet. That's my fault.
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I don't ever trust him again. Therefore.
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I am terrified for fucking Elder Scrolls.
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That's my rant that is it for that right now speaking of the
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Purchasing the game when you pre-ordered it one of the
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special editions that you could pre-order the most expensive
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one. I think it was like $200 or
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something. Well, right.
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Yeah that included it included a like life-size replica, like
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actual power helmet that you could wear and it was supposed
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to have a flag a specific like thick type of bag that would
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hold it canvas bag of believe I think so and then it had also so
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like, you know some extra stuff like in game and game perks plus
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like, you know a map and all of that shit, but the funny thing
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is is that they actually they didn't give them those canvas
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bags. Okay, and I lock bags shitty
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fucking nylon bags with no warning and Just say sorry.
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They gave them a whole five hundred atoms in the in the
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in-game shop, which equivalents to about five dollars in u.s.
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Dollars is an equivalence a word.
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It you know what? I mean shut up equals he met
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equals everybody. Shut up.
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All right is been a long day. Yeah equals about $5 US Dollars
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equivalents. Oh, you're such an asshole.
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Um, so they gave people an extra five dollars to send in their
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in-game store after you spent $200 even the worst part.
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It wasn't even enough to Buy anything the color blue and I
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love this from The Angry Joe. I've watched his shit all the
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time the color blue for the power armor cost $18.
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Whoo, tell by the color blue everywhere blue.
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What do you want from me man? That is fucking up that is
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absurd that they even thought they could get away with that
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actually help with those 2 Fanboys defend them Whoever
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likes blue. You don't like blue.
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I'm not gonna fucking pay for blue.
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No, do you want to keep talking about the power armor helmets
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and maybe some other problems that arise with them.
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I mean you can take this one. You're the one who told me about
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it. So I guess that's just the sex.
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Just a roast by the way every in there.
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There's gonna be some other things.
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I want to talk about when it comes to that stuff, but There's
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been mold found mold contamination on the power armor
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helmets, so they got recalled like a good about got recalled.
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Like how do you enforce you get excited for a game?
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The game sucks you get a nylon bag, and now you have cancer
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from a fucking helmet from the game.
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I feel so bad for the realities of pay a hundred bucks.
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Now you can I just on top of that.
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They added a fucking Battle Royale to fall out 70s a bed
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over Al before they even tried to fix the game.
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Let me know what you guys have wanted.
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So while we work on that here's this that we've already been
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working on because we thought you guys would totally be stoked
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on it. Sorry that you guys are remember
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during the repeal during the reveal.
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We're like, they're not going to do it.
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There's no way they're going to add that bad.
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Okay? Okay.
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No, so we have like a like a like a watch party for III, we
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do it every year and we do it at Nick's house and we were
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watching this. We were watching III in the
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Bethesda conference all of us together and They started they
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started with that the how you know, oh you can you know, the
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the Vault needs a new new. What is it?
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Like the the head the chief, you know, and and I'm thinking like,
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okay. Maybe this is like a tie into
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like The Fallout Shelter mobile app, like kind of you could do
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that in game and you run the Vault and that's what I
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immediately started thinking but then as a joke, I'm logo is
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probably a better real and then it was announced that it was a
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battle rail. And I was literally speechless
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we were all speechless we didn't expect.
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I mean we I guess we expect overseers the word you're
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looking for overseas. Thank you.
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I'm sorry. I'm blanking on everything
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today. I don't know how to talk.
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I don't whatever. Oh, you're good.
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Yeah. No, I mean I kind of half-assed
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joked about it and I expected it and I we were sitting there were
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like, oh, look, it's a Fallout Battle Royale.
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And then what do you know? It's literally a fall Battle
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Royale. We literally all got up and went
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outside to smoke. You're just over it look like.
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I just I used to be such a Bethesda Fanboy and then
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everything all of the stuff that's been happening all of the
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stuff that I had that we still haven't even talked about.
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There's still other stuff. It's been 25 minutes of us.
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Just complaining about the bullshit that they've done for
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fall 76 for just fall out 76. There's more there's more we can
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go on about I'm sure okay. So yeah, you know there is and
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I'm about to start on the next one, please.
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Do I am guns blazing buddy? Two of these Fallout 76 Fanboys,
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which I feel so sorry for them. They I think it was to
25:32
originally a lot of other people found out about it too.
25:34
And I think that this happened to them as well, but The they
25:41
ran it. Okay came across the dev room in
25:44
Fallout 76, which if you don't know the dev room is essentially
25:48
it is like a shortcut for the developers to have easy and
25:51
quick access to all of the assets that they need to develop
25:54
the game. Including like all of all the
25:58
weapons and all of that really cool shit that people aren't
26:01
supposed to have everything even stuff that was intended to be
26:07
paid content that wasn't officially in the game yet.
26:11
Like all of that stuff is there and these guys just they found
26:15
that they had access to it that's normally removed and it
26:19
was the same thing in Skyrim Skyrim had a Dev box to
26:22
literally any time. You see any of these like crazy
26:24
mud videos. They're like, ah, First things
26:26
first go to the dev box over here.
26:28
Let's get all your shit. So alright, that's not that big
26:31
of a deal. Now.
26:32
You're talking about a multiplayer game.
26:35
When you have you you've given people the ability to actually
26:39
get to this be God if you could um God mode essentially.
26:45
So what is Bethesda due to these two people who found it and all
26:49
of the people who also figured out that you can get to that
26:53
they banned them all. No, they didn't Yes, they did.
26:57
That's absurd they literally hold on.
27:00
I'm going to see I have the fucking page up here somewhere.
27:04
They banned them from the game. Yeah.
27:08
Yeah, it was from game pressure.com.
27:11
They did an article on it. It was a couple of people they
27:15
found the dev room and then the Bethesda band of them.
27:19
And some other video game, please.
27:24
Apparently, I mean, that's just that's just absurd it really is.
27:32
Um, let's see what else happened I can give my water my
27:35
experiences really quick. Yeah go right ahead.
27:38
So I'm not including beta so the beta we sank a good amount of
27:44
time into obviously. I only brought up the two-hour
27:47
Mark when we first played the beta because that we only played
27:50
for two hours the first night, but after that we play for a
27:53
while regardless what I bought the game and I loaded it.
27:58
It was still fucked up. So I didn't give the game a
28:02
chance to fucking to to wrong me any further.
28:06
I deleted it off my computer and I immediately He hit a but does
28:11
the customer service and I request a refund which you're
28:14
allowed to do. If you haven't played the game
28:16
for more than what I forget how long exactly it is.
28:20
You have to request a refund that's for steam steams refund
28:25
policies. But Bethesda was offering the
28:29
same thing for also be 6 because I had such negative feedback.
28:34
So I had done that and I just kept getting bot responses and
28:39
Bot responses and bought responses.
28:41
And then I finally get a human. Sorry.
28:46
We cannot help you with this. That was it.
28:49
I will literally try to find the email.
28:51
Sorry, we can't help you with this.
28:52
We're not accepting refunds. That's my experience of Bethesda
28:57
right now. Yeah, they so apparently their
29:00
terms of services that you cannot request a refund if
29:05
you've downloaded and used the software, which is the game.
29:08
So the moment that you downloaded to install it you are
29:11
no longer eligible for a refund. What does absurd PP slime?
29:16
Yeah, but funny thing is that that's actually being
29:19
investigated in Australia right now.
29:21
Apparently that's broken. Some of the laws in Australia
29:23
for Miss like that. In people with the
29:26
advertisements and then refusing to give them some sort of refund
29:30
now, there's actually a investigation into like a
29:34
potential lawsuit against has Animax and Bethesda for that.
29:40
This is this is this is insane. But there's a they've truly lost
29:45
it dude. Oh sorry.
29:48
No not gone don't have nothing else to say about that on top of
29:51
that eventually, but that's decided that you know, they
29:55
would give refunds to select people.
29:58
Basically. They're like, if you did if you
30:01
had this game and you did like x amount of stuff or whatever like
30:05
there are certain criteria, so not not everyone was eligible
30:08
for Refund only some people were but essentially you could upload
30:13
your information onto their launcher and request to have
30:17
your refund. Problem was is that when you did
30:21
that people were able to see other people's information when
30:25
it came to their street addresses their personal names
30:28
their credit card informations to get the refund spec certain
30:34
people were able to just access that.
30:38
How did those are killing it at this point?
30:42
Oh my God, I forgot about that. I'm not gonna lie.
30:45
It wasn't until I started looking this stuff up to make
30:48
sure that like I had all of this stuff like covered all of these
30:52
points that I was like, oh fuck I forgot about that.
30:58
So as you can see in this episode, but this is doing
31:00
really good. It's a company that you can
31:03
trust till I have zero faith of them anymore.
31:06
They it is my absolute final straw.
31:08
Not even considering getting Elder Scrolls.
31:11
See it's tough for me to because I know I don't know.
31:18
That's that's the scary thing. Like you can show me at E3 all
31:22
you want and which I do want to talk about III in a minute after
31:28
this. You can show me Elder Scrolls.
31:30
All you want a little nice little landscape at have the the
31:35
title Elder Scrolls six of it. Fantastic.
31:39
But you didn't even apologize for anything with Falls to me
31:42
six. They did not even really
31:44
apologize for falls on May 6. They literally just said hey
31:47
Battle Royale. Fuck you and got off Todd Howard
31:50
literally just was up on stage and walked right off stage like
31:54
like a scared little bitch the entire time he and care he and
31:59
give a fuck. Like they didn't actually
32:02
apologized. I remember he walked out on
32:04
stage and he was like, what was it?
32:06
He said something along the lines of like we appreciate you
32:09
guys and how vocal you are about telling us.
32:11
You know, what we've done wrong. They find we know shit.
32:15
Yeah. It's like that's not an apology.
32:17
That's hey. Thanks for yelling at us for the
32:20
crappy game that we made that's being passed it that it's being
32:24
passive-aggressive like oh my god, dude.
32:31
That's such a bummer dude. It really is.
32:33
It's such a fucking bummer watching a company like that
32:35
just drop. Like yeah, and they're they're
32:40
taking down two of my favorite fantasizes ever with them and
32:43
that's what's a bummer to me franchise.
32:47
You said fan chai's I said France.
32:49
I'm sorry franchises. Just like my favorite
32:52
franchises. I love I'm gonna talking I don't
32:55
even know why I'm fucking doing this.
32:56
He talked me into it. I don't even know why I'm here
32:59
anymore. I trust you.
33:00
I trust you. You'll get better.
33:01
Why don't you do your speech impediment?
33:04
My father most beautiful poem. I'm sorry Jesus fucking Christ,
33:09
dude. Oh, man.
33:12
No, like they there they've already started to destroy the
33:15
Fallout franchise for me like Fallout 4 there really wasn't
33:20
much to it. But like I was trying to give
33:22
them a chance and like understanding them trying to be
33:24
a little more modernized with it.
33:27
Like it's your first attempt at it.
33:28
That's fine. You're probably not going to get
33:30
it, right. You know, I interject.
33:33
Yes. What all they added was Base
33:35
building. I mean like updated graphics and
33:39
okay. Yeah, I guess yeah, I need a
33:40
graphics and stuff like that. They were time to like they made
33:43
it more of like an FPS style complete like when you're
33:47
actually shooting if you're not just using Vats all the time
33:49
like while I was three, all you had was use about you pretty
33:53
much have to use we don't have to but it's you basically use
33:57
the Vets. That's all you used.
33:59
That's Fallout 4. My biggest thing with that is I
34:04
didn't like to settle up missions.
34:05
I thought the settlement missions were fucking boring and
34:08
it's another settlement that needs to be saved woof Preston.
34:12
I didn't know that that was literally just infinite.
34:17
As soon as I found out that it was infinite and I'd already
34:19
done like a thousand of them. I was fucking mad.
34:24
But um, it's sad when the best Fallout is honestly a Fallout
34:30
that was made by in City obsidian.
34:33
And that's Fallen New Vegas Fallout New Vegas is the best
34:36
fall out. That's one of the best RPGs.
34:38
I have played and it's not even fucking made by Bethesda.
34:43
Really? It's made by obsidian.
34:45
Hmm. Who did the outer Worlds by the
34:49
way if if you haven't heard about that game that might be
34:52
one to check out because you should probably check out the
34:54
outer worlds instead of playing Fallout 76 fuck you because I
34:58
don't world's actually has a cohesive story that is very fun.
35:01
And it works. It just works Todd Howard 16
35:05
times the detail it does have 69 some detail Falls 36.
35:10
It doesn't look like a dumpster fucker outer world is great get
35:15
that instead of Any Bethesda product right now?
35:18
Yeah, because that's made by people who actually give a fuck
35:20
about their games. The other worlds does look
35:24
pretty sweet. I'm actually I'm waiting to get
35:27
the money till I can buy it and try it I would as soon as you
35:31
can get it get out of Worlds. It's very it's very immersive.
35:34
I've been playing it the past couple nights on Xbox game pass
35:37
because I already have Xbox Live and all that.
35:40
So I just put it on my computer. It's sweet.
35:43
I like to I like it a lot dude. It reminds me of I'll probably
35:48
get stabbed in the face for this coat our or coat or Knights of
35:53
the Old Republic. Oh, right kind of reminds me of
35:56
that doesn't play like it at all, but it reminds me of it
36:00
like is giving me that feeling right now.
36:03
Does that make sense? Yeah.
36:05
Yes. I'm literally just like oh my
36:07
God, this feels like how I felt when I was playing that and it's
36:12
like amazing but back to kicking with us on the balls while
36:16
they're bent over there. Anything else you wanted to say
36:19
about Fallout 76 hall for like anything in general while we're
36:26
still on the Fallout portion. There's also the the Nuka Cola
36:32
dark rum. Yeah, it's all about that cuz
36:36
that's embarrassing. So they partnered up with a with
36:41
a Distillery. I believe I don't really know
36:46
that much about it. I just remembered that they
36:48
partnered up and they were trying to make their own Nuka
36:51
Cola or yeah, nuka-cola like dark rum and they showcased an
36:56
advertised as really cool fucking nuka-cola shaped.
37:00
Glass like look like the big rocket and everything and it
37:04
looked awesome and people pre-ordered this shit.
37:08
And then when they got it, they found out that it actually
37:11
wasn't a like a bottle instead. It was just a normal bottle of
37:15
liquor and then it had this plastic casing of like the
37:19
rocket of like that that Nuka Cola bottle is a miracle.
37:23
No, it looks terrible in real life like it with the seams on
37:27
it were terribly done. So it didn't sit level unlike
37:31
the bottom. So like it didn't sit straight
37:34
like level on a table and shit and like People were completely
37:39
under the impression that they were supposed to be getting the
37:42
actual bottle was supposed to be shaped like that.
37:45
Not just a fucking plastic covering that you could take
37:47
like snap on and off the such a dude.
37:53
What a cool concept that is right because not many other
37:58
game companies are like, oh, let's make let's make liquor.
38:02
Oh, you have an iconic bottle shape such as nuka-cola.
38:05
I can literally see in your room right now.
38:08
That somebody had a Comic-Con made a better version of a nuka
38:13
Cola bottle. That's Bethesda.
38:16
Well, it's not a so it's not it's not a better version.
38:20
It's literally just like a like an old-school like Coke glass
38:24
bottle and then they just removed.
38:26
They just redid the label while like dirtying it up and making
38:29
it look all like rustic Yes. We made a better version.
38:32
Yeah, but I mean it's not like the actual like physical shape.
38:35
I've been waiting for something like that forever.
38:38
Ever I've been wanting something like that and I almost consider
38:41
getting it and then I and then I'm glad I saved my money
38:44
because I would have been fucked over and I'd be furious.
38:49
I think it was a pretty expensive pre-order to I don't
38:52
believe it was cheap. Aii, right.
38:57
I think it was like 80 bucks somewhere lat-long ballpark.
39:02
Yeah, it was 80 bucks. Yeah.
39:04
Yeah, that's embarrassing. Yeah for just bottom shelf from
39:09
in a fucking plastic nuka-cola case. embarrassing they should
39:16
feel ashamed. Also apparently some it was
39:20
wrongly sighs. So sometimes it resulted in in
39:23
spilling when they were when they when people try to use it
39:29
and didn't even fucking poor correctly.
39:31
Hey you so you can see if you're selling a bottle of booze that
39:36
came and poor. I can't I can't I am getting so
39:43
worked up in frustrated like you're turning really friends.
39:47
I'm just so mad like literally just a year ago.
39:53
I was the I was such a big Bethesda Fanboy and literally in
39:57
such a literally a year's time a little over a year.
40:02
It is a complete 180. Like absolutely complete 180.
40:09
No, it's embarrassing dude. I don't know they don't care.
40:12
That's the biggest problem. I have they don't give a shit
40:15
and it's obvious. They don't give a shit because
40:17
their business practice then throwing the them throwing this
40:20
hundred dollar subscription. Was the biggest fuck you to any
40:26
Fallout 4. Sorry Bethesda fan out there and
40:30
fall out fan. That's like if you gave me
40:33
fucking Skyrim 20 because we're on Skyrim fucking 19 right now.
40:41
So if you gave me the next Elder Scrolls game and we're like,
40:46
okay. Also if you give us a hundred
40:47
bucks, you'll get these features.
40:50
I should be in the game. I piss on that copy of the game
40:55
and throw down my window. They got that's just what I
40:59
would do. I'd be fucking pissed speaking
41:02
of Fallout. Fuck you.
41:05
I forgot about thank you reminding me.
41:07
I got a rule the ledge site. Okay.
41:10
So this subscription is called Fallout first.
41:12
That's that hundred dollars description were bitching about
41:15
birth because that's literally it's no it's Bethesda first, you
41:18
know fucking money money money money.
41:23
They didn't register. The the IP address of Fallout
41:29
first.com, which you would think that that would be one of the
41:32
very first things that they do been registered the domain name
41:35
the domain name. Yeah.
41:37
Yep. Thank you.
41:39
I am literally okay have normally not this bad.
41:42
But today I'm pretty badly. I do it.
41:43
Well, I'm glad you followed her Dickman will fix it.
41:50
But yeah, so so they didn't register that domain name and
41:54
instead a very tech savvy and very lovable guy who is a but
42:00
does the fan poppy. This is just a basically copied
42:05
the source of of their page their website, okay, and then
42:10
edit it and it's literally the greatest thing ever if you have
42:13
not seen it. Make sure you check it out like
42:15
first time right? That's a hit.
42:17
Yeah Fallout first.com It literally the title says is
42:21
Fallout. Fuck you for Fallout first.
42:23
Fuck you that guy right there pissed about it, too.
42:28
Yeah, that's what that's done is mad good.
42:31
Fuck them. I love this guy.
42:33
This guy is my hero here. Here's just the very first
42:38
snippet. I'm just going to read off to
42:39
you. Ever since Fallout 76 launch.
42:44
We have consistently done nothing to improve and evolve
42:47
The Experience based on your shitty feedback.
42:51
That's why we're excited to launch Fallout.
42:54
Fuck you. First a premium ass pounding
42:57
membership that offer some something dumb ass players have
43:01
been asking for since before launch private worlds for you to
43:04
select for you and select Idiot Friends.
43:08
So we decided to put it in behind a pay wall in addition to
43:12
the Huge feature Fallout fucking first also includes a host of
43:16
pointless items and cult bonuses all of which you can find on my
43:20
foreskin all day and the best part Fallout fuck you first is
43:25
available to screw you right now that guy rules dude.
43:29
This guy is my fucking hero because oh I'm so glad that I
43:34
even just checked because I'm so I'm just glad that it's still
43:37
up. I'm surprised it hasn't been
43:38
taken down yet look like nothing they could do.
43:42
Right exactly. I was expecting there to be some
43:44
bullshit that they've managed to finagle and get it taken that
43:48
way. If they want it.
43:49
They have to literally buy it for them.
43:52
They have to literally buy that domain name from him which other
43:57
kind of have to do. Right?
43:59
Right. This is just incredible God.
44:03
I absolutely love it. Um, another thing to touch on
44:08
and this actually is the first and I think only point that I I
44:12
have that is not related to fall out.
44:17
Now. This happened earlier this year
44:20
and this is in regards to the Elder Scrolls Online they were
44:29
Trying to promote the new. Expansion else Wire.
44:35
Yeah elsewhere. I think it's are now elsewhere
44:38
as we're okay. It's spelled else wire.
44:40
So I wasn't I don't know elsewhere.
44:43
And so they decided to do like a little interactive free tabletop
44:47
game to promote it that people could play that's pretty cool.
44:51
Yeah. Um, so the thing is is that I
44:56
think it was like a day after his out people realized that it
44:59
was pretty much exactly identical to the 2016 D&D
45:05
Adventure the Black Road. Oh my God, and so I don't know
45:09
if it was a paid like a private contractor or if it was like
45:12
something that they did but people are straight up like this
45:16
is almost plagiarism. Like this wasn't this wasn't
45:19
checked it. Like it wasn't run through
45:21
anything like it's almost like quote for quote play.
45:25
A juror is MM almost. Everything is the exact same
45:27
except they changed a little bit of the Lord details to make it
45:31
work within the decide the Elder Scrolls universe.
45:33
So was it like a campaign of D&D essentially then or what?
45:37
Yeah, exactly. It was like a little short
45:38
campaign that you know, like an interactive or you could play.
45:42
Yeah. It was supposed to be something
45:44
free and now they did take it down almost immediately like a
45:47
day or two later. It was taken down and they did
45:49
respond to it. But like That was something I
45:52
had no idea but I completely I didn't hear about it.
45:55
I didn't know about that either. That's embarrassing dude, right
45:58
like it really is. Hey dude, and it's crazy to
46:04
think that everything that we've talked about has happened in
46:07
just the last year 46 minutes of conversation just on the yeah
46:16
just on this 46 minutes just on this.
46:20
There's been no positives. I mean like they used to have
46:26
such great games when it came to like they had such excellent
46:29
story arcs and good side missions.
46:31
They weren't super repetitive all the time.
46:34
There was so many different unique things that were always
46:36
being done and try it out whether it was good or not.
46:39
At least the it was something they were trying especially with
46:42
the Elder Scrolls series like that is my fucking favorite
46:45
series. I played the fuck out of
46:47
Oblivion and Skyrim. Those are one of some of my
46:51
favorite games of all time. Like liquid film imagine dude,
46:54
Skyrim literally felt magical when it came out.
46:56
Yeah. It was like a whole new.
46:58
So this this whole brand new beautiful world, it can't dude.
47:03
First off. The marketing could have been
47:05
better 11 11 11. That's fucking brilliant dude.
47:10
Like I'm with Skyrim came out like you had to get that game
47:14
and when you've got that game if it's from the get-go I felt
47:19
amazing same with Oblivion, but like just there's something
47:22
beautiful. Skyrim and they've lost that
47:25
dude, they've said that I feel like they've lost that way about
47:28
them to make games like that anymore.
47:31
It's they don't care about the product like they did with
47:33
Skyrim the it it makes me nervous for the next Elder
47:41
Scrolls. Like I said prior in this
47:42
episode. It makes me extremely nervous.
47:45
I want the next Elder Scrolls and I can't wait to see it.
47:50
But how are they going to fuck this up?
47:53
That's what I'm waiting to see how they're going to fuck it up.
47:56
Like because now your track record is so fucking muddied.
48:00
So now you're you're going to have to fucking figure out okay
48:04
it or feel the trust us again. We got to do this.
48:06
Well, you better figure it out and you better fucking figure it
48:08
out before Scott the next Elder Scrolls Elder Scrolls 6 and
48:13
Starfield need to literally be 10 out of time knock out of the
48:16
park games. Yes, otherwise, like I think
48:20
that if those are flops, I think that that's done for like, I
48:25
don't know. Like done for is in like they're
48:27
going under but like No One's Gonna care about them anymore if
48:31
they fuck these games up. Like what we already are like
48:35
there's already the laughing stock of the games industry,
48:39
especially currently and that's a lot to say since we have
48:42
companies such as Ubisoft and EA so yeah when you've outdone EA
48:47
like I'm impressed because EA has and always probably will be
48:51
one of my most hated companies just for like business model
48:56
practices. You have to really want to fuck
48:59
up to be as bad as the a yeah. In my opinion you have to really
49:05
just not give a shit. The I guess the only real good
49:10
thing that I can touch on when it comes to Bethesda is Doom
49:13
Eternal and that's because that this is not even doing it.
49:16
It's all for you know and do even Doom Eternal got delayed,
49:22
but that's not that's good though.
49:26
That's fine. Delete like when people see the
49:28
word delays there though. It's gonna be shit game.
49:31
It's no that's not that's not the case because last of us to
49:35
just got delayed as well. That's not a bit.
49:37
The table at all. What I'm saying is great games.
49:40
Sometimes have to be delayed due to internal got delayed.
49:42
That's fine. I'm excited for do me Turtle.
49:45
They're adding a whole bunch of shit that I've never seen any
49:49
like any Doom game and I cannot wait to see how just disgusting
49:54
it's going to be because I'm Irwin Doom the new one came out.
49:57
Oh, yeah, dude. That was awesome.
49:59
And I installed it on my computer.
50:03
And this is before I had my computer that I like my my
50:07
computer now like the computer I could actually do shit on
50:10
doesn't like my spaceship computer.
50:12
I could do shit office. Now.
50:14
This is the computer that I literally was like hey, do you
50:17
have this part you have this part everyone's like yeah, I
50:19
guess and then I built this little shit my little shitty
50:22
computer everywhere I go to do real quick.
50:25
I just want to tell like say this to the audience this man
50:29
built like a computer almost entirely by just like And me
50:33
down parts from people. It was like he like you spent
50:36
like what like 200 bucks for a few things from 300 bucks.
50:41
And then like that. Was it everything else?
50:43
You got like hand it to you. I bought a power supply and I
50:46
bought an AI. Oh, Yep.
50:50
Yep, and I own a power supply and that's it.
50:53
Yeah, I got a free board. I got a free CPU free Ram free.
50:57
Graphics card. Yeah.
50:59
Yeah, see what I mean with bullshit 750ti AMD 8350.
51:06
You know, what sucks is that 750ti?
51:08
That was mine. Okay.
51:09
Yeah, everyone you all contributed and then from there
51:15
I got the computer I have now which I'm very thankful that I
51:18
have this computer. But anyways, and that to do
51:22
yeah, sorry to interrupt you. I just know that this looks a
51:24
bit of a fun little tidbit about me.
51:26
I always figure how about scrape on by not remember what I
51:30
remember it, you know loading it up for the first time because I
51:34
in the first episode or episode 0 rather do games like doom and
51:39
Half-Life and all that. It's like really what got me in
51:41
a video games. So to see this new version of
51:44
Doom and just like see the Doom guy. in his just Beautiful
51:53
beautiful looking Prime and just like that opening.
51:59
Its a no-bullshit opening. There's no it's not a slow game.
52:03
It's go out and kill kill kill kill kill kill kill blood.
52:09
Oh pick up this gun. You want me to take on the
52:11
stronger? Go get this?
52:12
Okay gun stronger go kill more. No cutscenes.
52:16
Really? There's no crime scenes.
52:18
Let's go kill. It was fantastic.
52:22
It was the fastest you've ever played my fucking life.
52:25
But like I remember like looking at it going this is literally
52:27
the most beautiful game I've ever looked at because it is one
52:29
of the prettiest games you will look at Doom it is very good.
52:33
Yeah, like the graphics forever phenomenal.
52:36
Yeah. They just keep on I think they
52:38
keep on adding like updates to like texture updates the shit to
52:41
that game as well. Just be like, hey just so you
52:44
know, we can make this game look even better than it looks it is
52:47
like it is continuing to age. Well, that's for sure.
52:50
Yeah. Yeah.
52:50
Yeah. You Eternal look like dude.
52:52
I'm stoked for it. But we're giving props to ID on
52:56
this not the pasta. No, but this is just publishing
52:59
it there just for working out a little bit of the dough for them
53:01
to slap their name on it essentially.
53:03
Well, and I have a little bit of say so and some because they
53:06
want a piece of that cake guy. They want some of that cake
53:09
baby. Oh, yeah, so I mean, but that
53:14
that leads me to this question. What do you think?
53:16
We're does The Fallout series go after falls on E6 That's hard.
53:23
That's a difficult question. Did they kill the fall?
53:25
They kill Fallout. And they I mean they they may
53:29
have they may have killed the fridge.
53:31
I don't I don't know. I don't think so.
53:35
I think there could be light fine.
53:37
If they continue down the road that they're continuing down
53:41
then they'll 100% for sure kill it soon enough.
53:45
All right hot, like if they continue doing the saint like
53:48
these shitty Shady things that no one's going to no one's going
53:53
to care about a new Fallout. I already don't ya me.
53:58
Sad part is I already don't I want to follow if I so a part of
54:02
me cares, but then another part of me goes okay, but you're
54:07
going to get let down again. So why even give a fuck like
54:10
they destroyed it it's dead. But there's still so much with
54:14
the advancement of where video games are going, especially with
54:17
computers. And now with PS5 and Xbox has
54:22
projects Scarlett. I want to say it's called
54:24
Scarlet Scarlet, either that or Sapphire something it's one of
54:29
the two but I know the both companies are boasting 8K what I
54:34
dude find even know that that was a thing.
54:36
I don't even have 4K fuck. Just got my 4K TV.
54:41
So fuck you do not give up do not give me a keg.
54:44
It's not going to run properly. There's no way they're gonna no
54:47
no, it's not going to be able to support it.
54:49
It'll they just are going to have it to where the like hey
54:52
you can do this one thing and 8K and then they're gonna be like
54:55
Boom AKA baby like there's gonna slap that title on their make it
54:59
really everything is a half of the lake a symbol everything
55:04
like it's gonna be so obnoxious like when 4K came out like you
55:07
have put your games in 4k Or how a VR?
55:10
It's like no, I'm straight dude. I'm good.
55:13
I don't need all that. But I don't really know too much
55:18
about the Fallout lore to really like suggest where it could go
55:23
from here, you know, three six. Oh God because that's I want I
55:32
want to fall out in like downtown LA.
55:36
I want to Detroit and I'm being biased because we're Michigan
55:39
were from Michigan, but it would be sweet to have it in like In
55:45
the Metro Detroit area like a bunch of the suburbs and shit
55:48
and like because that'd be an easy access into Canada and
55:53
Canada plays a decent part and we're not doing that.
55:56
It could be cool if they did it but La would be 3/2.
56:00
Yeah, I can just see like toll killer like like, you know, like
56:05
50 hundred years, maybe even more since like the nuclear war
56:09
and you know, like you're just in the midst of these like
56:12
collapsed fucking skyscrapers. Beware and like everything just
56:17
going to shit in Ruins. But like I'm this massive scale
56:21
with all of this building and Rubble instead of like, you
56:24
know, Having like essentially like smaller sized, you know
56:28
communities. I don't know something like that
56:30
could be pretty I think that'd be sweet.
56:32
I think that I think a better way you could go about it is if
56:37
you were to do like Fallout New York like Just go into like the
56:46
Empire State Building and shit would be sweet tackling like
56:49
Brooklyn Staten staying Island. All that shit be incredible.
56:55
That's where I can see if all going I could see it going to
56:57
New York or La the last location Appalachia was supposed to be
57:02
cool and I just wasn't it didn't do it for me.
57:07
At all, it didn't seem it felt disingenuous the entire map of
57:12
Appalachia. Like it didn't feel as pretty as
57:15
I or as promised as it was supposed to be how beautiful
57:20
Appalachians would be like how luscious was to be there trying
57:23
to show off like their textures with Appalachia and it just it
57:26
wasn't it didn't it? Didn't impress me.
57:30
We're at like in a fall game based in like, New York La
57:40
Detroit's whatever I want grimy. I want disgusting.
57:45
I want cities. Yeah run down cities where the
57:50
bandits and Raiders are just disgusting like I don't care
57:55
what Appalachia I didn't it was cool.
57:58
When I first saw Appalachia big map quote unquote didn't feel
58:02
that big first and foremost. I don't care anyone says did not
58:04
feel that made me. That's what she said.
58:09
That's what she does say. Hey.
58:13
All right, Michael Scott. No do default ice.
58:19
I don't think it's dead. I think they can continue on
58:22
with Fallout, but I think again, but does the has a lot of
58:26
fucking a lot of work ahead of them to gain back trust to show
58:33
the fans that they do give a fuck because right now, I'm
58:36
convinced they don't care. I'm convinced.
58:38
It's fuck the consumer. You're all stupid for buying
58:42
this game were punishing you for being stupid.
58:46
That's how I feel. Yeah, and that's not how I
58:48
should feel as a consumer. No, not at all actually feel
58:52
rewarded for buying a game like I should feel like the amount of
58:57
love you put into this game is what I'm receiving.
59:00
I'm not a developer. I have no idea what it takes to
59:02
be a game developer. I truthfully don't.
59:06
But I know that's bullshit. I know that game is bullshit.
59:10
Yeah, you can say you put love into that and you can say you
59:13
were on crunch but doesn't feel like it the game you gave us
59:17
felt like a rushed piece of shit Fallout 4 with multiplayer.
59:21
Hmm, especially since it carried over some of the bugs from
59:25
Fallout like the Fallout like the the the power armor bug.
59:30
Yeah. We're like your guy was just
59:31
like 6 foot tall. He wasn't wearing body armor,
59:34
and he's just like she pose. Yeah, just like hey what's up?
59:39
It's ridiculous. Like that was in Fallout 4 and
59:41
the it was the exact same thing in Fallout 76.
59:44
So like the little evidence to say they copied and pasted code.
59:47
Yeah discuss fact that like years apart and you haven't even
59:52
and you haven't fixed that problem.
59:54
It's the same fucking issue. Yeah, how many no I'm sorry as
1:00:01
much as I wanted like as much as I want to not talk shit about
1:00:07
the developers because I know it's not the hard-working people
1:00:09
who are developing the game and just doing what the toll is the
1:00:12
upper management. I know that for a fact.
1:00:15
Yeah, but at the same time But I have no idea if like what
1:00:20
portion of developers work on bugs and she like that but like
1:00:23
you guys have had years to fix that years.
1:00:27
Why is that not fixed Targets on upper management or if that's on
1:00:31
developer unlike the actual like Dev team themselves.
1:00:34
Like I don't know. Why should I pick you a no, you
1:00:38
are not hired me to play a beta you are giving me a 60-yard
1:00:42
product and going there could be a problem and you telling me
1:00:47
hey. It could be a problem if there
1:00:49
is working to fix it. That's fine.
1:00:50
But you're literally handing me a six dollar product going.
1:00:53
I don't know what's wrong with it.
1:00:55
Well, the game is broken. You just handed me this bullshit
1:01:01
that I don't want. Yeah and expected me to give you
1:01:05
feedback. On a product that should have
1:01:08
been finished for sixty dollars. That's my problem.
1:01:12
That's fucked up. Yep.
1:01:15
It's for me. I'm completely put off by
1:01:18
Bethesda. I that this is my final straw.
1:01:21
I feel like I have zero interest now in the Elder Scrolls 6, I'm
1:01:27
not gonna continue to watch them like destroyed the franchises
1:01:32
and everything like everything that they touch.
1:01:34
I'm not gonna I'm not going to be a part of it after this like
1:01:37
there's you have I don't it's hard to even say it.
1:01:41
Like you have to do so much to regain my trust like I don't
1:01:43
think you can at this point right because of how quickly
1:01:48
you've gone downhill like you don't even like attempt to like
1:01:53
ease it in a little bit like you just have been fucking gung-ho
1:01:57
like we don't fucking care. Give us your money.
1:02:00
Even if it's good. You didn't spit out before he
1:02:03
put it in know. It's just just went right in
1:02:07
like unacceptable. Yeah Unforgivable.
1:02:12
No, dude, I mean I'm in the same boat.
1:02:17
We'll see. I mean we'll see at this year's
1:02:20
E3 I suppose because you know, they're going to be there
1:02:22
they're going to be there. They're gonna have a conference
1:02:24
and unfortunately, we're going to sit in my living room eat
1:02:27
pizza rolls drink beer and watch it.
1:02:29
Oh, I'm 1,000% watching them try to fucking weasel their way
1:02:34
around this bullshit. So it's yeah Todd Howard is
1:02:37
going to fucking go out there with those little mongoose
1:02:39
looking face fucking. Hey, how's it going guys?
1:02:44
No, great. You're gonna have your have your
1:02:46
pain? Audience clap for you again.
1:02:49
See this many times. The detail just works mat.
1:02:53
Just like I said and then we gave it a fucking battle real in
1:02:58
a game that shouldn't have even had multiplayer know.
1:03:01
It's got a battle rail in $100 subscription fee.
1:03:05
So that way you can play by yourself $100 to play by
1:03:10
yourself. Or with a friend if you even
1:03:15
have a friend that still plays Fallout 76, that doesn't exist.
1:03:20
Yeah. I I don't think so either.
1:03:23
Is there anything else you wanted a personal attack Lon?
1:03:26
No, I think I got most of my ranting done.
1:03:29
This is therapy session for us. I believe.
1:03:32
Yeah Okay. So we've agreed that we are not
1:03:34
going to be since like we're doing this podcast now, we're
1:03:37
not going to discuss with each other these details before we do
1:03:42
them. Right, like we're trying to like
1:03:46
stop having these in-depth conversations so we can save it
1:03:49
for the podcast and I've had a lot of fucking shit built up my
1:03:52
friend. I bet it all fucking week when I
1:03:56
haven't think about it all week. No.
1:03:59
Yeah, we've agreed that unless the episode calls for it.
1:04:04
Then we'll kind of talk more about what these we talked on
1:04:09
the episode, but for apps is like this it's going to be just
1:04:13
You get what you get we get what we get.
1:04:15
I don't know what he's going to say.
1:04:16
He has no idea what I'm going to say.
1:04:18
I can go off the wall and I fucking know but you know like
1:04:23
this is episode one baby this the start of a very beautiful
1:04:26
thing. I'm very terrible.
1:04:29
We'll have to see how it turns out.
1:04:30
Yeah, we could get made fun of and get our underwear pulled
1:04:33
over our heads and be put on a flagpole and called nerds.
1:04:35
But that's fine. I can't I can't wait to like
1:04:38
look at all of the feedback from like the three people that are
1:04:42
just calling us just very inappropriate things that I do
1:04:47
not wish to mention. Those will be a those old.
1:04:50
Those will definitely help my self confidence.
1:04:51
I'm looking forward to those that'll keep me going.
1:04:54
Yeah, so really make me want to bust out another episode.
1:04:59
Do you want to talk about the schedule right now for episodes
1:05:02
or we find on that the thing is? Yeah, I think I think we found
1:05:08
that we want to try to have them released every Friday we're
1:05:11
going to do our best to have weekly uploads.
1:05:13
If we do miss any weeks. Please do forgive us and we will
1:05:17
explain for any reasoning if that were to happen, but we're
1:05:21
going to do our best to make sure we have weekly uploads for
1:05:24
everyone. So yeah if you just got to stay
1:05:26
in touch If if you want to keep up to date with us, I don't
1:05:31
stream that much at the moment. I'm still waiting to get back
1:05:34
into it. But I know you can follow Nick
1:05:37
here on on Twitch. Yep, twitch.tv slash forward
1:05:42
slash chub life Nick. You can find me on Twitch baby.
1:05:47
I wouldn't follow me on any social media.
1:05:48
I'm super boring twitchin to push about follow me on.
1:05:54
Yeah. I mean if you if if you need to
1:05:57
you can always Follow me on Twitter at a underscore PB freak
1:06:02
42. That's yeah, that's my fucking
1:06:05
gaming tag. That's my branding.
1:06:07
I'm gonna make that like the next shroud for and we better
1:06:11
add this episode of pretty fucking good.
1:06:16
Yeah. No, that's not gonna happen in a
1:06:18
million years. No.
1:06:20
No, it's okay which by the way, I'm still super surprised that
1:06:24
he switched over to mixer dude mixers taken them all.
1:06:27
You're taking them all they're starting to snag them up.
1:06:29
Like I thought I mean, yeah, we're gonna have to see where it
1:06:33
goes. But well we're going to save
1:06:35
this for eight which episode yes, but I do want to quickly
1:06:39
mention though. Shroud head.
1:06:41
Almost I think what like 80,000 people for his first stream on
1:06:44
mixer. Are you serious?
1:06:46
80,000 That's that's insane dude.
1:06:51
That is that's unfathomable video games taking over the day
1:06:56
by day. I'd be happy of eight people
1:06:58
watched me stream three people wash me stream.
1:07:02
You have like 15 viewers today. Be quiet didn't you?
1:07:05
Yeah. Okay.
1:07:06
Exactly. Yeah show your freaking mouth.
1:07:08
It doesn't happen all those you know, and thank you for stopping
1:07:12
the in with us today at the wasd and Beyond podcast again.
1:07:16
I am Nick You Beautiful smooth skin?
1:07:18
Other fuckers and this is Matt and and we are out of here.
1:07:24
You take it easy smooth skins.