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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, May 17th · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Right, John with Ashlyn Selli Sells, John
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  Speaker 1: Oceans Bryan set Jacks Right. It starts right now. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I do believe it has to be some kind of healing, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with with you know, the situation and everything
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  Speaker 1: that that transpired last year, because it's just there's a
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  Speaker 1: lack of trust that we're broken, I think, and and um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for me, it's about gaining the trust back.
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  Speaker 1: And they've got to see it through me. They got
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  Speaker 1: to see the transparency, the honesty. You know. I've always
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  Speaker 1: said that I'm gonna be open with them and I
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  Speaker 1: want them to be open with me, and and it
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  Speaker 1: just comes down to communication, right and have an open
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  Speaker 1: line of communication, and and we've been able to have
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  Speaker 1: some conversations that way in team team settings, and um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think the guys have really embraced it
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  Speaker 1: and are doing well. Loves that explanation from head coach
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  Speaker 1: Doug Peterson because it is a real thing. There is
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  Speaker 1: healing going on in this building and trust being rested.
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  Speaker 1: Ablish As we were getting ready for the start of
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  Speaker 1: O t AS next week, Welcome in to Jaguars Drive Time, Ashlyn,
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  Speaker 1: Brian and John here with you, and I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: start the show with that, guys, because it was not
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  Speaker 1: the first time that coach Peterson addressed what happened here
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  Speaker 1: last year. Not that he needed to, but it was
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  Speaker 1: kind of nice to say, hey, I get this happen
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  Speaker 1: and we're moving on now. It sends the tempo to
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  Speaker 1: his team, It sends the message and and Dougs the
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  Speaker 1: guy is gonna say it once and be done with it. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't what last year was. It's going to be
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  Speaker 1: what I think it should be. No more worried about
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  Speaker 1: the past. And he probably had to say something. It
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  Speaker 1: seems he's alluded to it before at times. Uh sort
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  Speaker 1: of touched on it when asked. The timing of this
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  Speaker 1: made sense because it's really the first time that he's
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  Speaker 1: been addressing the team and not the draft of the media,
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  Speaker 1: since the team came back for O. T. A. S.
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  Speaker 1: So he's had a chance to talk to players and
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  Speaker 1: start getting to know them a little bit. And I
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  Speaker 1: think at that point he had something to say about
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  Speaker 1: it in terms of what he had seen. As I
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  Speaker 1: said of reporters yesterday, I think no matter what the
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  Speaker 1: situation had been last year, and I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: we'll ever know about the details of it. Um we
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  Speaker 1: know enough. But I think no matter what it had been,
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  Speaker 1: the reality was you had a coach who was here
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  Speaker 1: for thirteen games, which is I think the third or
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  Speaker 1: fourth shortest tenure in NFL history. Whatever it happened, the
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  Speaker 1: players need to walk in here looking at Doug Peterson
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  Speaker 1: and saying he's the guy. He's gonna be here for
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  Speaker 1: a while, even if they weren't here last year. They
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  Speaker 1: need to know it's been shaky here before. They need
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  Speaker 1: to look at him as a you know, a beacon
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  Speaker 1: in the night if you will. But but I mean
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  Speaker 1: a somebody who's going to be here long, long term
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  Speaker 1: that you can trust. Uh. I honestly, I doubt that
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  Speaker 1: Doug has had to work very hard on that front.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's just who he is. At some point,
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  Speaker 1: You know this, whether you're dieting or exercising or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta let go of what was wrong and what
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  Speaker 1: you know, what you did in the past. And not
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  Speaker 1: the Doug has to, but the guys who were here
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  Speaker 1: have to just stop thinking about what was and start
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  Speaker 1: thinking about what is. And I thought what he really
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  Speaker 1: did was draw that line in the stand and say,
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  Speaker 1: now we're past it. I don't want to hear about
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  Speaker 1: what the past was. All we're doing is looking forward. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: let's get into big things. Big thing one is what
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  Speaker 1: did we see last weekend in rookie minicamp. Well, what
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  Speaker 1: we saw was tray Von Walker absolutely dominating the field
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  Speaker 1: if that is even possible in a rookie mini caamp.
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  Speaker 1: We knew he was big in person, come seeing him
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  Speaker 1: in the building, but when you saw him with the
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  Speaker 1: jersey and the gloves and hitting pads, you said, whoa,
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  Speaker 1: he is really big on a football field. And we
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  Speaker 1: weren't the only ones that thought that. Just asked Stephn Lloyd,
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  Speaker 1: that would I expect if athletics freak. You know, he's
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  Speaker 1: very powerful, um, and you know he's somebody who I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad on put you know, right left tackle because that's
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  Speaker 1: a that's a bad man. So um. You know it's
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  Speaker 1: it's really fun to be out there with him, and
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  Speaker 1: you know I was pushing each other to get better.
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  Speaker 1: Big thing too is what did we hear? And truthfully,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't hear much and that was a very nice thing.
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  Speaker 1: In rookie minicamp. It was very calm, no music, blaring,
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  Speaker 1: no m C. It was just guys talking to their
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  Speaker 1: coaches and working out on a football field, which is
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  Speaker 1: a very refreshing thing after what we experienced in last
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  Speaker 1: year's rookie Mini caamp. But one thing we are hearing
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  Speaker 1: is how ell Trevor Lawrence is adapting to this offense.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he he's so engaging right now. Um, the
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  Speaker 1: communication is is uh is pretty incredible the things that
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  Speaker 1: he sees on the football field. And even even from
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  Speaker 1: the standpoint of you know, hey, I like this play,
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  Speaker 1: this is what we did last year. I like this play,
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  Speaker 1: I like this concept. Is there a way that we
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  Speaker 1: can incorporate this in our offense? And so those are
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  Speaker 1: the those that's the dialogue that's going on right now,
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  Speaker 1: and this is the time to really, I think, embrace
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  Speaker 1: that and get it into our system now. And finally,
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  Speaker 1: big thing three is what do we think. Well, we
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  Speaker 1: think it's pretty obvious why the draft picks are here.
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  Speaker 1: They are here for a reason. It was very clear
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  Speaker 1: which players were draft picks on the Rookie Mini camp
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  Speaker 1: field and which one weren't. It was very clear and
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  Speaker 1: you could pick them out on the football field and
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  Speaker 1: Chad Muma Devin Lloyd, Trayvon Walker, we're all very clear
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  Speaker 1: football players that can start right away, and Chad Muma
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  Speaker 1: is ready to get into the stepense. Yeah. Initially it
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  Speaker 1: was you know, really kind of a real surprise for
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  Speaker 1: me because I saw that they took you know, Devin
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  Speaker 1: Lloyd in the first round, and so you know, at
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  Speaker 1: that time, my mind was thinking, Okay, they got that linebacker. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be going there, and they're the ones
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  Speaker 1: that you know, ended up giving me the call, and
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  Speaker 1: so you know, I was really thankful to have that
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  Speaker 1: and I wasn't sure how it was all going to
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  Speaker 1: work now, but you know, after going through the meetings
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  Speaker 1: and being able the you know, kind of go through
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  Speaker 1: those different positions, um, and you know, be able to
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  Speaker 1: kind of flip between Devon and I, Uh, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: good now, it's just still kind of getting that field
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  Speaker 1: for it. Now you have it. That is Big Things.
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  Speaker 1: We go back up to Big Thing one because this
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  Speaker 1: is the clear obvious thing of rookie Mini camp. Our
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  Speaker 1: biggest takeaway was trape on Walker and not the potential
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  Speaker 1: he has on the field, because we didn't see that much.
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  Speaker 1: We just saw his size in action. But trying to
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  Speaker 1: think of the right way to describe it, because I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you hear in every draft you know the guy's a
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  Speaker 1: physical freak, like Devon Lloyd said. Yeah, let's be honest.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about the top one percent of
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  Speaker 1: football players in the entire world at this level. They're
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  Speaker 1: all physical phenomenons. Uh, But the combination that he has,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's well, Look, you went to Churchill Downs
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, right before the horse races started.
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  Speaker 1: You watched everybody walking around. They were looking to see
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  Speaker 1: if they could identify, you know, a winner based on
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  Speaker 1: what they could see. He's the fastest horse on the field,
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  Speaker 1: or he was last weekend. I mean, he's the biggest um.
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  Speaker 1: He stands out in so many ways, and he does things. Again,
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  Speaker 1: I want to overplay it because it's a rookie minicamp,
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  Speaker 1: but the things that he's asked to do during rookie minicamp,
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  Speaker 1: he makes them look easy. He looks like a guy
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  Speaker 1: that has the potential. For us to be talking about
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  Speaker 1: this during training camp. Usually during training camp the rookies
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  Speaker 1: fall off. They're not as strong as the guys are
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  Speaker 1: already here. They're planning it's grown men. This kid looks
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  Speaker 1: like a grown man who will look like a grown
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  Speaker 1: man playing against twenty six year old Uh. You know, again,
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  Speaker 1: it's just rookie minicamp. But the things he did uh
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  Speaker 1: on the blocking sled uh in drills, you can see
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  Speaker 1: why they drafted a number one overall. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what it will translate to on the field, but he's
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  Speaker 1: got every chance. Well, I said to some reporters yesterday
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  Speaker 1: I stood next to in front of Aidan Hutchinson in
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  Speaker 1: Las Vegas and he said, get of my way. I
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  Speaker 1: would probably would have said it to him before. What
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  Speaker 1: have said to this guy? Because the point is is
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  Speaker 1: that Hutchinson's big, you know, six six to sixty, but
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  Speaker 1: not like this. And we've been on this field before
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  Speaker 1: all of us were Again, they're all impressive physical specimens.
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  Speaker 1: That's why they play in professional football. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: know that it had been like, oh yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that is the perfect combination of height and
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  Speaker 1: length and speed and explosiveness. And as John said four times,
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  Speaker 1: you know it's rookie minick, got it? I mean, but
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  Speaker 1: that's what we're looking for in rookie minicamp. We're looking
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  Speaker 1: to see what was it that separated this guy from
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  Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson, from Ikea Mkwando and from Evan Neil. You
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  Speaker 1: know the other guys who were mentioned as being the
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  Speaker 1: top physical targets, Well, if you put them all next
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  Speaker 1: to each other, they're all impressive in their own way.
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  Speaker 1: And I stood before the other three in in Vegas
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  Speaker 1: and then him. It's him, yeah, no question. If you're wondering,
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  Speaker 1: it's him. Yeah. And I don't know if that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: mean that he's a quote sack guy. But the more
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  Speaker 1: you're you listen people talk about him, the more you
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  Speaker 1: listen to him, the more you see him, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I guess the higher confidence there is that he is
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  Speaker 1: going to be able to be a productive players doing
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  Speaker 1: something in the NFL. And you would be shocked if
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  Speaker 1: this kid is not really really good. What if he
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  Speaker 1: has eight sacks? Right, would wud be good for a rookie?
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  Speaker 1: I think that would know Josh Allen had tent What
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  Speaker 1: if Josh Allen has fifteen? Right? It just takes the
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  Speaker 1: pressure off of the impact of what this player can
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  Speaker 1: do is more than just what his stats say. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that's something that you're going to have to
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  Speaker 1: watch it. Plus, I think it's pretty clear with his
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  Speaker 1: frame and his hands and his you know, the length
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  Speaker 1: of his arms means he can get into guys and
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  Speaker 1: then keep them off of him right from getting into
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  Speaker 1: his body and moving him in the run game. I
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  Speaker 1: would expect that he would be a very productive player.
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  Speaker 1: I know, with the number one overall pick and with
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  Speaker 1: the pass rusher in particular, you're looking for sacks. But
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  Speaker 1: I think with this player, over the first couple of
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  Speaker 1: years of his career, you're just gonna be able to
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  Speaker 1: watch him on the field and go, oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's that is a guy who is worthy if he's perspected.
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  Speaker 1: I get with the outsiders are gonna say, my own emailers,
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  Speaker 1: what if I don't know Brian, he's makes a whole
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  Speaker 1: lot better. That's that's my point. Yeah, I mean, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe his presence makes him a whole lot better. And
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  Speaker 1: he has seven sacks and Adan Hutchinson has eight, and
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  Speaker 1: then and the Jaguars are really, really, really good on defense,
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  Speaker 1: and he's a big reason why. But gonna get that
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  Speaker 1: because it's the nature of the beach. But I just think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he looks to me like a guy who
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  Speaker 1: is going to be able to contribute at a high
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  Speaker 1: level for a long time in the NFL. And you
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  Speaker 1: know it's too or not, but it sort of looks
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  Speaker 1: like well, and I just want to say this. I
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  Speaker 1: shared the story with you of interviewing Devon Lloyd in
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  Speaker 1: Las Vegas and how impressive he was, and I said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, what is Jacksonville getting? And he said, someone
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  Speaker 1: who wants to be good and a good football player
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  Speaker 1: and an even better person. Right in the limited touch
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  Speaker 1: talk that we've had with these guys, it seems like
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  Speaker 1: Trayvon is kind of the same kid. Good kid, good family,
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  Speaker 1: very disciplined, hard worker. Um, if that's the case, if
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  Speaker 1: they're both the same case and both really good players, man,
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  Speaker 1: what a home run first round this could turn out
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  Speaker 1: to be. Time will tell. We've just seen a rookie minicamp,
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  Speaker 1: but the signs are encouraging. It's funny sin after the
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  Speaker 1: first draft weekend there was this you sort of set
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  Speaker 1: your narratives, well, Devin Lloyd's rock going guy and Trayvon
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  Speaker 1: Walker is going to be very meek in front of
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  Speaker 1: the meeting. Trayvon and I don't think it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be as engaging as Devin Lloyd. But in the interviews
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  Speaker 1: that I've seen with Trayvon and been around him, he's
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  Speaker 1: a very engaging, likable kid. I just don't think he's
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  Speaker 1: going to be Mr. Dynamic the way Devin Lloyd is.
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  Speaker 1: But I certainly think he's going to be a likable
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  Speaker 1: player for the Jaguars and and he's got a chance
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  Speaker 1: to be really, really good. So Trayvon Walker, Yes, And
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: I catch myself asking, you know, who cares? Who cares
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  Speaker 1: if Traymon Walker is in this outgoing? But that's just
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  Speaker 1: who we drift to as media members. Devin Layd reminds
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  Speaker 1: me a lot of Josh Allen how he walked in
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  Speaker 1: this building, very similar. But Traymon Walker is a good
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  Speaker 1: football player. That's all he needs to be. We heard,
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  Speaker 1: we mean a movie star. We heard before the draft
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  Speaker 1: that this was a draft filled with doubles, real solid
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  Speaker 1: base hits. Um. This kid has the chance to be
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  Speaker 1: a home run and I have a hard time seeing
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  Speaker 1: him not being at least a triple watching him on
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  Speaker 1: the field last week. So I think he's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: really good and very productive. Does he become that superstar
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  Speaker 1: that that John's emailers said, John, you were right, who knows.
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  Speaker 1: Excited to see him at the least in O T
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  Speaker 1: A S and in training camp. Coming up soon, we
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  Speaker 1: have Brandon Shareff, offensive line offensive lineman joining us next
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  Speaker 1: Drive Time brought to you by Jet Home Loans. Excited
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  Speaker 1: to have offensive lineman Brandon Shriff joined the show now Brandon,
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  Speaker 1: welcome man and excited to be back on the football field.
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  Speaker 1: I can imagine it's finally for real. It's really nice
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  Speaker 1: and the weather is nice here too, so I'm enjoying myself.
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  Speaker 1: Not too hot though yet right, not yet. I heard
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: it gets I heard it gets worse. It's going to
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: be yeah, yeah, yeah for about a week short summer,
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  Speaker 1: Amen to that. So tell us just how it's been
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  Speaker 1: going um with coach Peterson and just this off season
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  Speaker 1: program we out on the football field. Feel it's very
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  Speaker 1: relaxed but efficient. Do you feel the same way, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just learn a new system with h Peterson and coach
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: Phil and then a new offense with Press Taylor. So
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  Speaker 1: I think they're just you know, trying to work some
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  Speaker 1: baby steps here and just stacking one day at a
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  Speaker 1: time and coach. Peterson always talks about the one percent,
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  Speaker 1: getting one percent better, reaching every day and uh, just
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  Speaker 1: just coming to work and having fun. You had different
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  Speaker 1: head coaches in your time in Washington, but you were
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  Speaker 1: in Washington your whole career. What's it like now six
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  Speaker 1: seven years in to step up and try something new? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, change, You know, I enjoyed my I enjoyed
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  Speaker 1: my time in Washington. I had some great coaches and
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  Speaker 1: I'm so thankful for you know them, and I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be where I am without them. So but change is good,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, just it's all it's all pretty much
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  Speaker 1: the same, just new terminology, just just a new way
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  Speaker 1: to do things. So just coming and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just just grind and have fun. What were your impressions, uh,
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  Speaker 1: of Doug Peterson as an opponent for years and how
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  Speaker 1: they lined up? What are your impressions now? Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 1: a great coach. He's you know, he's one of the best.
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  Speaker 1: He's a smart coach. You want to he want a
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl for a reason, you know. Uh. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm very fortunate to be able to play with them,
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  Speaker 1: to play for him, and you know, and learn from
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  Speaker 1: him too. So I think we got a heck of
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  Speaker 1: a heck of a team and we're excited to just
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  Speaker 1: keep building one out of time. We're spending a lot
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: of time talking about you know who what, and we're
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: on the offensive line. What's that like for you? First
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  Speaker 1: of all, you're stepping into a new group anyway, and
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  Speaker 1: now they're talking about competition at right tackle and who's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be the left guard? And how do you build
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  Speaker 1: the cohesion when you don't know who's gonna be where.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you can worry about that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: right now, you just gotta you know, we we haven't
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  Speaker 1: really stepped out on the field yet. You know, you're
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  Speaker 1: just doing individual stuff. You are, uh doing a few
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  Speaker 1: team team things, but it's all about just learning the playbook.
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  Speaker 1: And that's you know, you gotta worry about yourself first,
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  Speaker 1: you know, make sure you know what to do and
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  Speaker 1: how to do it. And like Phil says, he's got
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  Speaker 1: three things, know what to do, know how to do it,
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  Speaker 1: and be the same guy every day, so coming in
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  Speaker 1: coming and work and just and just show the coaches
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  Speaker 1: that you know what to do. So it sounds like
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  Speaker 1: you're not concerned about it. That comes together in August. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it comes together. It slowly comes together.
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  Speaker 1: But we also like to get people together during O,
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  Speaker 1: T A S and and build that build that camaraderie together,
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  Speaker 1: you know, outside of practice too. So we just moved
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  Speaker 1: into a house. So that's my goal is to finally
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  Speaker 1: get be over there and just enjoy it. You mentioned Phil,
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: you've worked with him before. What is it about him
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: that you like? Tell people who are watching this sort
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: of what defines him as an offensive line coach to you? Yeah,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: you know, he came in when I had Coach Callahan,
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: so he learned under coach Callahan. And uh, he's just
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: he's really energetic and uh, he gets along with the
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: guys really well. Um, so he's a lot of fun.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: You know. He likes to joke around and uh, just
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: make the meding rooms fun, you know, because some people
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: are better learners than that. He doesn't he's not Uh
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I guess I shouldn't say that.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: But he's just a fun coach and we all we
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: all enjoyed it. As a veteran, would you normally be
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: here for the offseason program? Is this important to you
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: as a player or is this the first time you
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: want to be here? Uh, to get to do the
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: new coaching staff. Some veterans for eight years. This is
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: my eight year, so I've been here for the Yep.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: It's just you know, I like, I like being here because,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: like I said, you can build camaraderie with the with
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: the teammate, the team, and uh, you know, you only
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: have to be in here for four hours a day.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: So whether it's I like to hunt and fish, you know,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: you go fishing after that. You know, we just bought
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: a new house and uh so now it's moving into
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: the house and trying trying to get trying to get uh,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: you know, trying to figure out where everybody everything's out
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: in this area. You gotta work at some are amy
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: as We'll be here, right, that's right. Yeah. We were
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: on the field for the first time with this new
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: coaching staff this past weekend and being next the offensive
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: line coach. Brouscher is loud, is he always? That's what
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: I said. Like he's fun, so he likes to be loud,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: and he is loud. He was quite far the loudest
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: coach on the field, no questions asked. So we can
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: expect that going forward. Absolutely, he'll probably get louder. Give
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: us your perspective. I mean, we saw the young quarterback.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: We're excited about him. Uh as an outsider coming in. Now,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: what do you think of Trevor Lawrence? You know, what
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: do you what do you see from him in even
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: limited time? You know, he was picked where he's picked
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: for a reason. He's he's smart, he's tall, he's quick,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: he's athletic, he's confident to in the huddle, he's confident.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: So you know he's we can as long as we
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: do our job up front for him. You know, this
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: guy's looking for him. So that's that's what we're focused
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: on doing. You said tall, is that important or just
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: an observation. I'm just an observation and important too. So
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: speaking of coach Browser again, he told us at the
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: draft that his main priority in life is to protect
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. That's his number one job in life. We
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: brought that up in the line room too. We're going
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: to find him for that too. It's just a joke.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Every every time somebody gets put on the media, it's
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: always a fine. In the offensive line room, We're never
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: going to see you again. It's probably not. We'll make
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: this count at the leaks, that's right. Yeah, but no, yeah,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: so as long as we're doing our job up front
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: and keeping Trevor up right, you know, he can do
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: his job and do it to the best of his ability.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: So we're excited for that. And how do you like
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: jactually mentioned buying the new house here you're talking about
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: turkey hunting, said, this has to be we're getting there.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: A lot a lot of guys like to go fishing,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: so I've never really fishing on the on the coast before,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: so I'm always you know, from Iowa, small town, we
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: don't have the beaches like we do out here, so
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: it's a new environment. But like I said, changed you good,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: So we're excited. You got to give Brooks or some
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: of these guys to hook up with Brandon Linder who
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: just returned. I heard Mr Star And by the way,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I was driving down uh County Road to ten just
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: yesterday and there were three turkeys just standing by the
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: side of the road waiting for you right right there
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: in Pontevid. Not anymore season, trust me, I've looked one
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: of the last ones for you for the schedule least
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: going back to Washington very early in the season. I
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: can imagine that's exciting. It's crossing off the list. No, absolutely,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: you know. I, like I said, I enjoyed my time
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: back there, and uh, I have a lot of good
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: memories back there and a lot of a lot of
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: close friends. I'm excited to see them all. Awesome. Well,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining Jack. Let's drive time.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: We're gonna make the most of it. We're never going
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: to see you again. You know, the mushroom Society is,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: you know, Ryan to an offensive lineman. They called the
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: offensive line coach. You'd love to call themselves an offensive
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: line in the mushroom Society. Do you know why that's? Yeah,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: because they grow in the dark and everyone throws maneuver
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: on them. Jeez yeah, offensive lineman sounds like a fun
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: place to be. Ok, Brandon, thank you for joining us.
• 19:04
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• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Drive Time. It is time for what's more likely a
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: couple of situations that we have to play out here
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: getting ready for O t as next week. And we've
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: talked at great length about Trayvon Walker and Devin Lloyd.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: So what is more likely Trayvon Walker and Devin Lloyd starting,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: or tray Von Devon, Luke Fortner and Chad Movement starting. Brian. So,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a foregone conclusion that you
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: will see tray Von and Devon on the field. So
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: the real question here is is Luke Fortner and Chad
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: MoMA or not. So I went back and looked, and
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: there have been centers who were rookies who started on
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: great teams. Tom Nayland was the third round pick of
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: the Broncos and was a rookie the year they won
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: their first Super Bowl. And Mike Pouncey started at center
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: for the Steelers and was part of some very successful
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: teams in Pittsburgh. So, um, I'd like to look at
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: this guy. Uh, I like what I heard on John's podcast.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Um So I think he does start, and I think
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: MoMA plays such a big role it's like he's starting.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's more likely that all four of those
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: guys are playing important roles very early opening day. Yeah,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I mean it's clearly more likely. Just doing the math,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: you've got two people who were on this question, and
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: then two people the same to people plus two more
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: so it's more likely that just to start, so more
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: likely than just two. But I completely agree with Brian. Uh. I.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know that Chad Mumu will be a seventeen
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: games starter on the Jaguars depth chart, but you won't
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: know it. But I do think that in seventeen games,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: you'll look out there and watch the Jaguars and you'll
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: see Chad moving, running around playing, So he'll be How
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: about this, Ashley? How this bill your mind? I think
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: if you think there are thirteen or fourteen starters on defense,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: which is where the NFL is these days, and I
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: think he will be starting. Uh. And I don't know
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: that Luke Fortner starts September, but out of seventeen games,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: i'll bet he starts thirteen of him, I'll bet he's starting.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: And you know by the end of the season, he's
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the guy. I'm gonna go that. I think he starts
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: an opening day because I just he's just smart. K
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: He's huge, big, broad, looks like a center um and
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: other teams have had success with it, so I don't
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: see why not. But that's going to be a good
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: training camp out. The overall point is is that by
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: the end of these this year, I think John's luny this.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: These are guys that you go, Okay, we're set here,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: let's go check them out. The top seventy guys. By
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the end of the year, they should look like that,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: and you should know they're starting in two thousand twenty three.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, what is more likely quarterback e J.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Perry or wide receiver Kevin Austen making this team. This
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: is both undrafted free agents that are now on the Jaguars,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: and both have been very high acquired and the jag
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Horse paid a lot of money to get both of
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: these guys here. A lot of teams wanted both these guys.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: A lot of questions on on Kevin Austin out of
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame. He had injuries, he had a suspension. E J.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Perry from Brown University is one of the better quarterbacks
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: that the Jaguars could have picked up. So what's more likely, Well,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: both is not an option. Um, so I'll go with
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: the quarterback. I'm just guessing, right, Um. Young quarterbacks, especially
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: ones that you like, are are valuable because they can
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: become draft picks if you develop them. They're valuable if
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: they have to play, but they're more valuable in the
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Rob Johnson mold if you've got a good one. I
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: think the quarterback is a guy who sticks on roster.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I'll blow your mind again, ash Um, answer the question.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I think it's more it's almost a certainty to me
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: that unless E. J. Perry just can't do anything, he's
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: gonna be on the roster because you sign a guy
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think he will play. So I think there's
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: a high percentage chance that he's on the roster doesn't play.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: In that sense, it's not as much of a certainty
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that Kevin Austen's on the roster, but there's a much
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: higher sentence chance that he contributes something. You don't think
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: it's any way that Perry listening goes dramatically wrong, has
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: a stat next year. Uh, Kevin Austen to me during
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: rookie camp, looked like a guy who has a chance
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: to get into the rotation, bare minimum practice squad guy.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: So I agree with Brian they signed. When you sign
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: a quarterback like that, you sign him with the idea
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: that you were going to retain him somewhere and you're
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: on your fifty three or keep him on the practice squads.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I think he's here. The question becomes Kevin Austin. I
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: think he'll be I think both, but I can't answer
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: both because he had your little or in there. It's
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: not the end question, and I didn't I'd be honestly,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't pay any attention to Kevin Austin.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: So he mean, he looked like a guy who who
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: fits in in the NFL. But can you get open
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: all those things? But you can easily see during during
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: rookie camp why they wanted him and why you think
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: that he has a chance to make the roster. From
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: what we've read, a lot of teams wanted him and
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: there was just so many questions around him that that
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: you have the hesitations and we probably won't know until
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: training camp what he can bring. But nine yards his
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: senior season. He only played seventeen games of his college career,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: so when he's on the field, he's impactful. There's just
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of questions and for him and his agent,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of those logical fits. Everybody
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: thought that Jaira was needed receiver. They've got five who
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: you think really fits solidly, but there's really not a
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: developmental guy in terms of a young guy right now
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: in this team. So there's a slot for that, and
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: you would think they want Austin to fill that. Now
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: he's got to go fill that absolutely, all right. Our last,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: what's more likely who scores more touchdowns this season at
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: running back? Is it's James Robinson or new draft pick
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Snoop Connor who scores more touchdowns? And this is interesting
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: because Robinson is a very effective touchdown guy. Uh both
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: ways right as a receiver and a runner. But we
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: don't know what his health is and the achilles is
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: a serious injury. We hear he's making progress. Um, Snoop
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Connor was a goal line back with you have thirteen
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: touchdowns last year at old miss, Uh, he'll be healthy.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I won't. I won't even try to blow your mind.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I'll say Robinson because he'll have the chance to catch
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: and run uh receiving and rushing touchdowns. So I'll say Robinson,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: but Connor will get on the board. I want to
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: plow your mind again. I think, well, I'm gonna go
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: with Travis E t N. But you're not gonna go
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: with that. So I think Etna the running backs, has
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: a chance to be the guy who scores more. But
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: to your question, I agree with Brian. Yeah. I believe
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: in James Robinson as a worker, as a kid, as
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: somebody who can overcome things. I don't know, frankly, if
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: he'll be the same back at any point in his
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: career as he was before the Achilles It's always unknown
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: with that injury. If somebody can do it, I believe
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: he can, and I do think he will get back
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: this year and figure out a way to contribute and
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: have more touchdowns than Connor, but not more touchdowns and Travisy.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: So the reason West we went with this question because
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: they're both really good around the gold line and we
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: don't know Abody. That's why I went ahead and answered
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: the question. Even the one thing I think that Robinson
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: has going for him is he was not an explosive
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: guy before, and he's not going to be explosive after
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: the Achilles injury. So I think he's got a chance
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: to return to form, or at least closer to form
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: than a lot of other guys who rely on that explosiveness.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: And there's things he did with quickness in the whole,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: you know, and make guys miss instinct, that that sort
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: of thing that as a running back, he still needs
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: that acaries to work well to be good. But I
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: agree with you, I think he will figure out a
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: way to be impactful even while he's coming back from
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: the Sanduria. I think I'll have more touchdowns since your corner,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: but not as many as Travis. Yeah, we're done with
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: this segment. It's your question. Yes, that was what's more
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: likely when we'd come back on Jaguars Drive Time. Some
• 27:23
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• 27:37
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• 27:39
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• 27:42
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• 28:00
  Speaker 1: that has not been confirmed by the Jaguars, but Ethan
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Wah is now the assistant general manager under Trent Baulky,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: will join the scouting stuff here in Jackson. No, this
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: is something we talked about during the pre draft, and
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Trent Balky at the time said yeah, I'm not right now,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: but didn't say it wouldn't happen. Um, this is a
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: move we anticipated was going to come, and it looks
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: like it is coming. Yeah. Shot particularly had talked about
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: way back the need to add uh more brainpower in
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: in football, more level. I guess was crazy. So Waugh
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: knows uh Balky from San Francisco. I worked with him
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: for ten years, so it's a logical fit when they
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: hire him, Trent, I assume we'll tell us how they
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: will use him. So I'm just assuming. But assistant gems
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: are generally on the road a lot. They're out doing
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of the scouting and the heavy lifting that
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: would allow the general manager to be here and doing
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: more in different things to support dog in football. So
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: my guess is he's going to be super scout. Yes, agreed,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: and we will await that news from the Jaguars, possibly
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: this week and coming up this week as well. Chad
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Muma is on the ozone podcast When In podcast and
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: it was interesting. I told him a story of how
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I went to Wyoming, UH to interview a form Wyoming
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: player UH, and his eyes sort of glazed over and
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I realized I was talking about somebody from the expansion
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: season and that Chad hadn't been born yet at that point.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: So Ryan Christopher, Yeah, so I hate that. I realized
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I was an old man. Yeah, but listen anyway, Chad
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: was terrific and I think fans will enjoy getting to
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: know him a little bit. Love that. And next Monday,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: we will be on the field for O t A
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: number one, so we'll have some kind of impressions, probably
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: more than rookie Miniam'm gonna do a little bit more
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: in this phase two of the off season, So stay
• 29:46
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