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Black Plague Apologists · I Think Less of You Podcast

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SPEAKER_03: We're just going to shoot from the hip because I didn't write it down.
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SPEAKER_02: HBO is doing the Kool-Aid movie.
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SPEAKER_03: Which, by the way, that is amazing.
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SPEAKER_03: I know.
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SPEAKER_03: Did that come about before or after?
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SPEAKER_02: I mean,
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SPEAKER_02: so it says they're currently developing it,
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SPEAKER_02: so they've probably been developing it for a bit.
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SPEAKER_02: Movies don't just incept out of nowhere.
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SPEAKER_02: So I'm sure this has been,
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SPEAKER_02: like,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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there's been general interest in doing something to do with Jim
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Jones for a while,
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SPEAKER_02: so.
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If I had to guess,
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this was in the air in Hollywood when they came up with that idea.
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SPEAKER_02: And they may have decided it was a fun thing to mock.
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SPEAKER_03: So they just put it in what show are we referencing?
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SPEAKER_02: What is it called?
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SPEAKER_02: The Studio?
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SPEAKER_02: The Studio.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: It's a good show.
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SPEAKER_02: I need to get caught up on it.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm not caught up on it.
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SPEAKER_03: Last night's was kind of aggravating.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, I liked it.
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It's always,
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I mean,
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with a Seth Rogen anything,
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it's always kind of the same format.
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SPEAKER_03: And last night's just bothered me.
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SPEAKER_02: My wife didn't like the first episode,
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SPEAKER_02: although when I told her about the Jim Jones thing,
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SPEAKER_02: she said,
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SPEAKER_02: oh,
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SPEAKER_02: it's like a
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SPEAKER_02: That short Italian director in that show.
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SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh, Scorsese.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, you're talking about the studio.
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SPEAKER_02: Scorsese.
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SPEAKER_02: But yeah, so she didn't like the show at all.
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SPEAKER_02: She didn't want to watch past the first episode, so I've been...
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SPEAKER_02: I've been watching.
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SPEAKER_02: It's a good show.
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SPEAKER_02: I just have other stuff I've been watching.
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SPEAKER_02: In this case,
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there have been a lot of very good Star Trek episodes that have
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been on Heroes and
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SPEAKER_02: Icons channel in the evening.
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SPEAKER_03: Have you seen those a million times?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Last night,
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they had the Next Generation episode where they actually did a
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weird time travel
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SPEAKER_02: retcon kind of thing,
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SPEAKER_02: or diverging universes,
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SPEAKER_02: so that they could properly send off Tasha Yar,
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SPEAKER_02: who famously got randomly eaten by a...
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SPEAKER_02: By a ooze monster.
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SPEAKER_02: Just because.
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SPEAKER_02: They were mad she wanted to leave the show.
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SPEAKER_02: So they killed her off.
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SPEAKER_02: And it was very ignominious fashion.
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SPEAKER_02: And then there was this whole episode.
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SPEAKER_02: Where basically it was a proper send off.
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SPEAKER_02: For Tasha Yar.
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SPEAKER_02: It's a very good episode.
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SPEAKER_03: Alright well I'm awake again now.
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SPEAKER_03: So.
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SPEAKER_03: Zoned out during all of that.
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SPEAKER_03: You're the only person in the world.
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SPEAKER_03: Who doesn't like Star Trek.
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SPEAKER_03: I really don't.
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SPEAKER_03: I feel like there are plenty of.
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SPEAKER_03: People who don't like Star Trek.
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_02: A lot of people don't like Star Wars now.
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SPEAKER_03: But... I mean, my kid still watches Andor.
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SPEAKER_02: I haven't... I have not... It's something to watch with his grandpa.
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SPEAKER_03: Like,
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SPEAKER_03: it's...
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I think the last Star Wars movie or property I watched was the
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second of the...
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SPEAKER_02: Of the newer...
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SPEAKER_02: No,
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SPEAKER_02: did I...
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SPEAKER_03: I haven't seen any of the newer ones.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, the Jar Jar era ones I've seen, but not any of the new ones.
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SPEAKER_02: I saw Rogue One.
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Rogue One was actually good because the big problem with Star
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Wars is that it's
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SPEAKER_02: obsessed with the Skywalkers.
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SPEAKER_02: I actually like
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SPEAKER_02: It's a big universe.
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SPEAKER_02: With a lot of these shows,
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SPEAKER_02: they have a big universe that they've built,
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and it doesn't have to be solely just focused on this one
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person or one family in
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SPEAKER_02: the universe.
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SPEAKER_02: Go tell little stories.
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SPEAKER_02: Even in the Marvel movies, all these big sprawling things.
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I think it would be better to sometimes just have a little
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story off on the side
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SPEAKER_02: that maybe never feeds back into your main overarching narrative.
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SPEAKER_02: But it's just like, you know, it makes the world feel lived in.
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It makes the world feel like a place where things are going on
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other than this big thing.
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SPEAKER_02: Does that make sense?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, not really, but I'm not like super into them, so.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: I think.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't really watch like a lot of Marvel movies.
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SPEAKER_03: I just, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: I actually don't watch a lot of movies.
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SPEAKER_03: I realize that's horrible, but.
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SPEAKER_02: It is.
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SPEAKER_02: I am actually,
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SPEAKER_02: I think about this weekend,
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SPEAKER_02: if I have time,
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SPEAKER_02: I'm going to see The Accountant 2 came out.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm very excited about this.
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The Accountant was an action movie with Ben Affleck that came
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out eight years ago.
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SPEAKER_02: He plays like an autistic guy who is really good at math and fighting.
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SPEAKER_03: Math and fighting, the two that normally go together.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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that's the conceit he's the accountant but I actually really
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liked the first one
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and they have finally made a sequel so I'm very excited about
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this I like big dumb
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action movies I'm sorry I'm a dude this is what we do yeah that
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is I don't like
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them but I totally get guys like I mean Luke goes and sees them
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too he goes by
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SPEAKER_03: himself he enjoys a movie solo
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SPEAKER_02: Going to the movies by yourself is wonderful.
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I don't understand people who don't like going to the movies by themselves.
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SPEAKER_02: I've never understood.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't like it.
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SPEAKER_03: I feel so awkward.
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SPEAKER_02: Why?
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I'm someone who likes to go to restaurants and things by myself,
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but a theater by myself?
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
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Yeah,
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going to a restaurant,
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I don't have a problem going to a restaurant by myself.
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SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't natively do it.
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SPEAKER_02: The odds are I'd just go,
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SPEAKER_02: if I am out and about and I need to eat,
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SPEAKER_02: I'm going to get fast food or something and just eat in my car probably.
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SPEAKER_02: Or if I have a hotel, bring it back to my hotel.
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SPEAKER_02: It doesn't occur to me to go sit in a restaurant.
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SPEAKER_03: You don't travel solo like I do.
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SPEAKER_02: No, that's true.
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SPEAKER_02: No, that's not true.
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SPEAKER_02: I do travel solo, but sometimes.
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SPEAKER_02: Not to the extent that you do, by any means.
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SPEAKER_02: But again, if...
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SPEAKER_02: When we are,
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SPEAKER_02: like,
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SPEAKER_02: out on trips,
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SPEAKER_02: I am always,
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SPEAKER_02: or I will periodically be like,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: let's just do it.
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SPEAKER_02: It's late.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's just order food and eat it in the hotel room so we don't have to,
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SPEAKER_02: like,
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SPEAKER_02: go out and then come back.
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SPEAKER_02: And my wife never wants to do that.
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SPEAKER_02: She likes going to the restaurant.
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SPEAKER_02: But when it's just me,
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I will generally go and just pick something up and eat it in
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the hotel room.
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SPEAKER_03: There's nothing better than eating in a hotel room.
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SPEAKER_03: It's so gross to eat in bed.
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SPEAKER_03: And my husband is so freaked out by it.
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SPEAKER_03: But like, when I can, I'm just, I love it.
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SPEAKER_03: Especially something really messy, like a pad thai in bed.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't eat in bed.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, there's usually a table.
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SPEAKER_02: The best.
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SPEAKER_02: You like calling things feral?
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SPEAKER_02: That is feral.
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SPEAKER_00: No, it's so feral.
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SPEAKER_02: Eating odd thai in bed is feral behavior.
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Oh,
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and then like if I well,
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so a lot of times I don't book the rooms for myself.
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A lot of times it's travel boards and things that arrange
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travel for me and then I
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SPEAKER_03: talk about it.
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And if I get a room with two beds,
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I have like a designated eating bed and a sleeping bed.
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SPEAKER_03: I know I'm not helping the feral behavior.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know what to say.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know what to say to this.
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SPEAKER_02: This is horrifying.
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SPEAKER_02: Ew.
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SPEAKER_02: Someone has to clean that room after you left.
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SPEAKER_02: What are you doing?
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SPEAKER_03: I always tip my housekeeping.
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One of the things that I always tell my kids is that when it's
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someone's job to
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SPEAKER_02: clean up after you,
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SPEAKER_02: it is your job to not make their job harder.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I agree.
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SPEAKER_02: This is one of my words of wisdom.
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SPEAKER_03: No, you don't.
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SPEAKER_03: You're eating Pad Thai in bed.
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SPEAKER_03: They're going to have to wash the sheets anyways.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm not like smearing it all over the place.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm sure you are.
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SPEAKER_02: What?
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What?
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SPEAKER_02: I always get pad thai on my shirt when I eat pad thai.
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SPEAKER_02: I eat a noodle.
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SPEAKER_02: It's inevitable.
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SPEAKER_02: The noodles just kind of go everywhere.
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SPEAKER_02: I love pad thai.
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SPEAKER_02: The pad thai is my go-to at any Thai restaurant.
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SPEAKER_02: I have a go-to at most restaurants.
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When I was in college,
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my wife and I went on a trip with our college trip to England.
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SPEAKER_02: My wife will tell this.
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SPEAKER_02: She loves telling people this.
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SPEAKER_02: We were going through England,
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SPEAKER_02: we were going to restaurants,
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SPEAKER_02: and I just always got spaghetti bolognese.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
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SPEAKER_02: Because my reasoning was,
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SPEAKER_02: spaghetti bolognese is good,
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SPEAKER_02: I know I like it,
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SPEAKER_02: and it's hard to mess up.
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SPEAKER_02: So I just went through England getting spaghetti bolognese everywhere.
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SPEAKER_03: You had the audacity to make fun of me for anything earlier.
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What the hell?
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My wife listens to this and she will listen to that and think
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it's funny because it's true.
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SPEAKER_02: One time we went to an Indian restaurant.
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SPEAKER_02: It sparked a story in my memory, a travel story.
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SPEAKER_02: We went to an Indian restaurant, a whole bunch of us.
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SPEAKER_03: Did you get spaghetti bolognese at an Indian food restaurant?
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SPEAKER_02: I would have, but they didn't have it.
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SPEAKER_02: I got a dish.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't remember what the dish was, but it was a spicy.
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SPEAKER_02: I asked for it spicy, and the guy was like, how spicy do you want it?
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SPEAKER_02: I was like, give me spicy.
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SPEAKER_02: Give me spicy.
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SPEAKER_02: So he brings it.
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SPEAKER_02: It was reasonably spicy,
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but the whole dish was centered around this red pepper in the
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middle of the plate.
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SPEAKER_02: And people started asking me if I was going to eat the pepper.
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SPEAKER_02: And I was like, I can take any amount of heat.
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SPEAKER_02: I'll eat the pepper.
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SPEAKER_03: Was it a bird's eye chili?
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SPEAKER_02: I have no idea.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know what it was.
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SPEAKER_02: I cannot give you that information.
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SPEAKER_02: But eventually I was like, you know what?
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SPEAKER_02: I will eat this pepper if everyone here gives me one pound.
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SPEAKER_02: So we're like six people.
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SPEAKER_02: I got like six pounds out of it.
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SPEAKER_02: But I ate the pepper.
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SPEAKER_02: And then according to my wife, my face just turned bright red.
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SPEAKER_02: The waiter came running over and he said, didn't you eat the pepper?
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SPEAKER_02: He gave me a big jug of water.
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SPEAKER_03: Those are mostly decorative.
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SPEAKER_03: I am known to eat them because I also really like a lot of spice, but...
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I've never actually there was one time there was one time I was
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super sick and I
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was like give me extra extra extra Thai hot like the most spicy
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you can make this
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soup make it for me because I always get tom yum when I'm sick
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like that's my go to
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SPEAKER_03: and I get it really really spicy you just like sweat out all the toxins.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't think that's how that works.
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SPEAKER_03: It is.
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SPEAKER_03: It's scientific.
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SPEAKER_03: My degree in political science says it is.
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SPEAKER_03: Pretty sure not.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: No.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, it works for me.
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SPEAKER_03: It's what I do.
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So there was one time that I was crying eating food,
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and I still ate it all.
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My husband took one bite of it,
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and he can handle a little spice,
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but not a ton.
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SPEAKER_03: And he was just like, how are you alive?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Well,
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SPEAKER_02: that's when you're sick,
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SPEAKER_02: of course,
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SPEAKER_02: it's different because your taste buds are all out of whack.
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SPEAKER_02: They need to get hit with a board to actually activate.
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SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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SPEAKER_03: Also, I do have a really high tolerance for heat.
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SPEAKER_03: My daughter is insane.
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SPEAKER_03: She has a really, really, really high tolerance for heat.
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SPEAKER_02: My children do not.
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If they even think...
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They actually can handle a bit of spice,
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but they don't think they can.
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SPEAKER_02: So if they think something...
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SPEAKER_02: My youngest,
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SPEAKER_02: if something is red,
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SPEAKER_02: she's very suspicious of it,
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SPEAKER_02: because she suspects that that may be spicy,
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SPEAKER_02: and then will start complaining it's spicy.
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SPEAKER_02: That's literally bell pepper.
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SPEAKER_02: That's not...
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My daughter has a rant that she's going on currently about GMO jalapenos.
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SPEAKER_03: And she's like, they're making them so big and they have no heat anymore.
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SPEAKER_03: And I just hate all of these jalapenos.
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SPEAKER_03: I need a real jalapeno.
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SPEAKER_03: She just goes off.
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SPEAKER_03: It's great.
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SPEAKER_02: It isn't about the GMO status of it.
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SPEAKER_03: She understands that.
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SPEAKER_03: She's just like... Yes.
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She's just angry that jalapenos aren't hot anymore because they
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have been bred to
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SPEAKER_03: be a little more mild because then you can sell a lot more.
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Well,
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now you have to get like a poblano or something or one of the
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more spicy ones.
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SPEAKER_02: Is a poblano more spicy?
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SPEAKER_02: Whatever.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's a little.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but I like the flavor of jalapenos.
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SPEAKER_03: We're going to grow a bunch this year.
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SPEAKER_02: I think my wife tried to grow jalapenos.
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SPEAKER_02: I think she grew up.
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SPEAKER_02: Her mother grows a bunch of jalapenos.
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We generally get a bunch of random things like jalapenos during
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harvest time from
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SPEAKER_02: her mother who grows them in her garden.
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My dad is currently constructing some garden planter things for
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me at the farm right now.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, are they like raised beds?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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Are you going to actually use them or are you just going to
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look at them and think
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SPEAKER_02: about how nice it would be to actually plant?
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SPEAKER_02: We'll see.
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SPEAKER_03: Yet to be determined.
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We actually,
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we usually have a garden in summer,
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especially because we have a greenhouse.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: We live on a farm.
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we can that's true and since this year i don't think we're
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gonna be traveling as
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much i know you're trying to get me to travel and i mean you
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need to you need to
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get back on the horse and travel lady get out of the house i
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don't know why i'm
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being so weird about it but i'm like get out and see the world
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all you all your
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stuff is like i have all these great stories but now you're
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just sitting here i
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SPEAKER_03: know i hate it
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SPEAKER_03: I do need to get back out.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm super in my head about the whole traveling thing at the moment.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to think of a good place you could go to.
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SPEAKER_02: Like Montenegro.
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SPEAKER_02: Like Montenegro.
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It is my understanding you have a tour company who keeps
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sending you things begging
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you to come out to go visit beautiful sunny Montenegro at
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reduced cost and you're
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SPEAKER_02: all just sitting in your basement eating pad thai on your bed.
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SPEAKER_03: No!
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SPEAKER_03: I only eat pad thai in bed when someone else is cleaning the room.
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SPEAKER_03: Because it is feral.
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Yes.
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SPEAKER_03: Look, I know.
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SPEAKER_03: I know how I can be.
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SPEAKER_03: I am someone who loves to travel all the time,
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SPEAKER_03: but I do have to have like weird homebody things when I travel a lot.
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SPEAKER_03: And that's my one.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but I do need to travel again.
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I do have a friend who's begging me to go to Montenegro to help
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him promote his new
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company because I often get offers like that with travel
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companies asking me to come.
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But the problem for me at the moment is my husband can't travel
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a ton with me.
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SPEAKER_03: And just because I'm a little freaked out with like health stuff,
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SPEAKER_03: I don't want to be totally by myself because
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In another country and Montenegro would work because I do have
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my friend that's there.
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SPEAKER_03: Otherwise,
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SPEAKER_03: I like,
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feel like I need to stick to countries that either my brother
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in law can get to me quickly.
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Or some of my other friends like I have some cousins stationed
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in Italy right now.
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SPEAKER_03: And
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SPEAKER_03: I can do things like that where I'm like,
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SPEAKER_03: okay,
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SPEAKER_03: if something goes wrong,
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SPEAKER_03: I can have someone with me in a couple of hours.
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SPEAKER_03: But I just am kind of freaked out.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: At the moment.
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SPEAKER_01: Fair.
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SPEAKER_01: But, you know, you got to do it.
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SPEAKER_01: I do.
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SPEAKER_01: You got to do it.
16:34
SPEAKER_02: You got to go.
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SPEAKER_03: It's actually my job.
16:37
SPEAKER_03: I need to go.
16:38
SPEAKER_02: I know.
16:39
People want to hear of the adventures of Courtney out and about
16:42
in the world.
16:43
Not the adventures of Courtney,
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you know,
16:45
sitting around optimizing web pages at home.
16:49
SPEAKER_03: I hate.
16:50
SPEAKER_03: Oh, my gosh.
16:51
SPEAKER_03: You just said that.
16:51
SPEAKER_03: And I'm so triggered now.
16:53
SPEAKER_03: My life right now is just rewriting my entire website.
16:57
SPEAKER_03: Google hates.
16:58
the old format that they used to force us to do where food
17:01
bloggers would have a
17:03
SPEAKER_03: ton of information.
17:04
SPEAKER_03: And you're like, Oh, I don't need your life story.
17:07
SPEAKER_03: Just get to the post.
17:08
SPEAKER_03: We didn't do that for fun.
17:10
SPEAKER_03: We did that because that's what Google made us do.
17:12
SPEAKER_03: So now I'm having to rewrite everything to like,
17:15
SPEAKER_03: get right to it to like actually useful information.
17:19
SPEAKER_03: And it makes me want to jump off the cliff.
17:24
SPEAKER_02: Once it became a straight-up meme,
17:26
it was inevitable that Google was going to have to do something
17:28
about that.
17:29
SPEAKER_02: Because that is the meme of food blogs.
17:33
SPEAKER_03: The thing is, they don't even care.
17:35
SPEAKER_03: To them, they like it because then they can eject more ads in.
17:39
SPEAKER_03: And it's like...
17:41
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
17:42
SPEAKER_03: I'm just grumpy about the whole thing.
17:44
SPEAKER_03: I hate my job.
17:46
We've discussed this before because I was surprised that
17:50
everyone had started
17:50
SPEAKER_02: adding in the jump to recipe button at the top.
17:54
You said that that means that they just get to charge more for
17:58
the ad right on the recipe.
18:00
But I assume this is part of it because I have to assume that
18:03
didn't used to have
18:04
SPEAKER_02: jump to recipe because you weren't allowed to have jump to recipe.
18:06
SPEAKER_02: Or at least you were disincentivized from having to jump to recipe.
18:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it wasn't something that people loved until they made it set.
18:16
So the ad companies were like,
18:18
look,
18:18
we realize this is a user feature you want.
18:22
SPEAKER_03: This is something that improves experience.
18:25
SPEAKER_03: So they talked to their ad buyers and they were like,
18:29
SPEAKER_03: look,
18:29
this will just trigger a higher floor because you're going to
18:32
be the only ad that
18:34
SPEAKER_03: most people are served.
18:35
SPEAKER_03: So it took some knowledge on the back.
18:39
This is why I worked with an ad company that does all this
18:42
stuff for me because
18:43
SPEAKER_03: they're constantly looking for ways to make more money.
18:47
SPEAKER_03: I mean...
18:49
My ad company makes 25% of what I make,
18:54
so they're always looking for ways to make that hire.
18:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that makes sense.
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Do you sign up with them,
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or do they come to you once you get enough traffic?
19:07
SPEAKER_02: They're like, hey, we'd like to work with you.
19:08
SPEAKER_03: A little bit of both.
19:09
So the company that I'm with right now,
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Raptive,
19:12
I think it's at 50,000 page views a month.
19:15
SPEAKER_03: You are eligible to apply.
19:18
SPEAKER_03: If you know someone like me, I can get people in with less.
19:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it helps to have friends.
19:27
SPEAKER_03: And I don't want to say high places, but...
19:31
SPEAKER_02: In weird places.
19:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
19:33
SPEAKER_03: Weird corners of the earth.
19:34
SPEAKER_03: I am that friend.
19:37
SPEAKER_03: So you can get in.
19:39
SPEAKER_03: There's another company called Mediavine.
19:41
They take a lot smaller blogs with the intention of growing
19:45
them into being profitable.
19:47
SPEAKER_03: But you need to have like...
19:50
At the very minimum 10,000,
19:53
20,000 impressions a month for it to even make sense.
19:56
SPEAKER_03: Before that, you're with Google AdSense.
19:58
SPEAKER_03: And just candidly, AdSense doesn't make almost any money.
20:02
SPEAKER_03: But it's a way to jump into being monetized.
20:08
SPEAKER_02: Well, I assume that AdSense makes money.
20:10
SPEAKER_02: You don't make money with AdSense.
20:12
SPEAKER_02: I believe AdSense is a major component of Google.
20:14
SPEAKER_02: No, they do.
20:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
20:16
SPEAKER_03: Well, AdSense is its whole other thing.
20:20
It's just something that you don't stay on as a creator or
20:23
publisher for very long
20:25
SPEAKER_03: because you can like a lot of people buy ads on my site directly.
20:30
SPEAKER_03: They don't need to go through the millions of middlemen.
20:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
20:34
SPEAKER_03: Like you would with AdSense.
20:36
SPEAKER_02: That seems bad for Google, to be honest.
20:38
SPEAKER_02: I'm surprised that they've let them.
20:41
SPEAKER_02: Well, they're giant sclerotic now.
20:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
20:45
They also have to be really careful because they were just
20:47
found in violation of
20:50
SPEAKER_03: antitrust over their ad practices.
20:53
I think a decent number of these companies are going to start
20:55
getting busted.
20:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:57
And I think that will lead to an interesting online environment
21:01
that no one's
21:02
SPEAKER_02: talking or really thinking about.
21:03
SPEAKER_03: No one's thinking about it.
21:04
SPEAKER_03: And I have to point that out.
21:06
SPEAKER_03: That has nothing to do with this administration,
21:08
SPEAKER_03: although this administration is also in favor of it.
21:11
These are bipartisan things that have been going on for,
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you know,
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10,
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15 years.
21:16
SPEAKER_03: And we need for it to actually happen.
21:20
SPEAKER_03: We do need these big tech companies to be looked at.
21:23
SPEAKER_03: There's a lot of issues from censorship to
21:27
SPEAKER_03: misinformation and things and what they prioritize,
21:31
SPEAKER_03: what they don't,
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their ability to completely annihilate companies just on a whim
21:39
and totally
21:40
SPEAKER_03: manipulate all the information that we get.
21:43
SPEAKER_03: They need to be looked at.
21:45
A lot of people on the right will complain about these sorts of
21:48
things from a –
21:51
SPEAKER_02: that's anti-capitalist.
21:52
SPEAKER_02: That's like capitalism is letting the market do whatever it wants.
21:55
SPEAKER_02: But it isn't.
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Capitalism and monopolies are kind of a different conversation
21:59
because we've set up
22:01
SPEAKER_03: government-assisted monopolies in this,
22:04
SPEAKER_03: and that isn't part of the principle of capitalism.
22:08
SPEAKER_02: In The Wealth of Nations,
22:09
Adam Smith specifically talks about the risks of one player
22:16
becoming too dominant
22:17
SPEAKER_02: being a major danger.
22:19
SPEAKER_02: I can't quote it Bible verse-like, but he talks about that
22:29
SPEAKER_02: The government has an important role.
22:31
SPEAKER_02: It's supposed to have an important role in keeping that from happening.
22:34
SPEAKER_02: And that's,
22:35
SPEAKER_02: I think,
22:36
SPEAKER_02: we've made it for a long time across a lot of industries,
22:39
SPEAKER_02: to be honest,
22:40
SPEAKER_02: not even just like,
22:42
SPEAKER_02: you know,
22:42
SPEAKER_02: that's just an example.
22:44
SPEAKER_02: Disney now owns almost the entirety of Hollywood.
22:47
SPEAKER_02: And this is a failure of multiple previous administrations.
22:50
It's going back to George W.
22:52
Bush,
22:52
at least,
22:53
of just no real oversight over these companies.
22:58
Buying up competitors that have a nice thing that they are
23:02
worried will hurt them
23:03
SPEAKER_02: so they can kill them.
23:06
SPEAKER_02: I think Facebook's done that multiple times.
23:08
SPEAKER_02: I know Apple did it.
23:09
There was a years ago,
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like 2009,
23:12
I can't remember the name of this service.
23:14
SPEAKER_02: There was this service that was great,
23:16
SPEAKER_02: that I loved,
23:17
SPEAKER_02: that it allowed you to,
23:20
SPEAKER_02: if you had bought music,
23:22
SPEAKER_02: you could basically verify with them that you owned the music.
23:28
SPEAKER_02: and then you would have the streaming access to that music from them.
23:31
SPEAKER_03: So, like, the reverse Napster?
23:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
23:34
SPEAKER_02: it was...
23:35
SPEAKER_02: They had,
23:36
SPEAKER_02: like,
23:37
SPEAKER_02: the streaming information,
23:38
SPEAKER_02: because,
23:39
SPEAKER_02: like,
23:40
SPEAKER_02: they had these streaming files for all these things,
23:42
SPEAKER_02: and you could...
23:45
SPEAKER_02: I can't remember how you would do it,
23:46
but I think you'd put a CD and then it would scan the CD and it
23:50
would understand
23:51
SPEAKER_02: what songs you had on the CD.
23:53
SPEAKER_02: And then you would then have streaming access to those songs.
23:56
SPEAKER_02: It was great.
23:56
SPEAKER_03: I have no idea what you're talking about.
24:00
SPEAKER_03: I've never heard of this at all.
24:01
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't big.
24:03
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't very big.
24:06
SPEAKER_02: But Apple bought the company and then just killed it.
24:10
uh like it it it doesn't exist because apple was worried that
24:16
it was going to hurt
24:17
um that was going to hurt their other itunes uh business so
24:21
they just they bought
24:22
it and just destroyed it i'm still mad about that all these
24:25
years later this was
24:26
literally 15 years ago still i'm still mad the things the
24:31
things that men still get
24:32
SPEAKER_02: worked up about i know that and constantinople that's
24:37
SPEAKER_03: I mean, yeah.
24:40
SPEAKER_03: Well, you know specifically why my husband is on a tear about that.
24:46
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
24:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
24:51
SPEAKER_02: Speaking of old things that people get worked up about,
24:53
SPEAKER_02: though,
24:54
SPEAKER_02: you wanted to discuss,
24:55
SPEAKER_02: I posted a...
24:57
This was actually from,
25:00
I think,
25:01
last year,
25:02
or at least a couple months ago.
25:06
The YouGov did a survey of people discussing Americans' views
25:13
on things to do with
25:14
SPEAKER_02: the Middle Ages.
25:16
SPEAKER_03: Did I say that I wanted to discuss this?
25:19
SPEAKER_02: You did.
25:19
SPEAKER_02: You said you thought it would be...
25:21
SPEAKER_02: You wanted me to just riff the whole episode on it,
25:23
SPEAKER_02: which I said I didn't think I could do that.
25:26
But the big takeaway everyone online has about this study is
25:31
that when asked about
25:33
SPEAKER_02: their favorability of the Black Death,
25:37
SPEAKER_03: the Black Plague...
25:38
SPEAKER_03: I was like,
25:39
SPEAKER_03: what are you talking about?
25:40
SPEAKER_03: I don't remember this at all.
25:42
SPEAKER_03: No, I totally remember.
25:43
SPEAKER_02: 74% of people view the Black Plague very or somewhat unfavorably.
25:49
SPEAKER_02: 17% don't know.
25:50
SPEAKER_02: And 9% have a very or somewhat...
25:55
here for both of you on the black plague like i want to talk to
26:00
these nine percent
26:01
of people and understand what are we like i was thinking about
26:05
the black plague
26:06
like why are we interested in the black plague why do we think
26:08
it was good do we
26:09
think that europe was overcrowded is this like some weird
26:12
crusade you know fantasy
26:15
i think i can answer this question there is a school of thought
26:19
which is a do we
26:22
SPEAKER_03: have to thin the herd
26:25
SPEAKER_02: There's debate over this.
26:26
There is a school of thought that the Black Plague directly led
26:29
to modernity,
26:30
that basically the Black Plague killed so many people that it
26:34
caused a crunch in
26:37
SPEAKER_02: workforce size,
26:38
SPEAKER_02: which then led to more bargaining power by the remaining workers,
26:44
SPEAKER_02: who then leveraged it to pull...
26:46
SPEAKER_02: power towards themselves, away from the centralized feudal governments.
26:52
SPEAKER_02: So if I had to guess,
26:54
I would think that this 9% of people who are pro-Black Plague
27:01
are reading into that.
27:04
SPEAKER_02: That would be my assumption.
27:06
SPEAKER_03: I want to ask these people what drugs they are.
27:08
SPEAKER_03: What?
27:08
SPEAKER_03: 16% are in favor of the Inquisition.
27:17
SPEAKER_01: Which is, in fact, 3% more than the Hundred Years' War. 13%.
27:25
SPEAKER_01: I don't understand.
27:28
SPEAKER_02: The Inquisition was... It wasn't a good time.
27:33
I get it if you're really,
27:36
really into spreading the word of God by any means necessary.
27:42
SPEAKER_02: But I think that might be a bit more of a problematic means.
27:46
SPEAKER_03: Gregorian chants, 36%.
27:47
SPEAKER_02: How do you not like a Gregorian chant?
27:56
SPEAKER_02: 49% do not know on Gregorian chants.
27:59
SPEAKER_02: 15% favorable.
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SPEAKER_02: It is a 15% favorable, 36% unfavorable.
28:06
SPEAKER_03: There's the 15 Orthodox people they interviewed for this.
28:13
I'm not going to sit down and be like,
28:15
I'm going to go listen to some Gregorian chants.
28:17
SPEAKER_02: But, you know, if Gregorian chants playing somewhere, this is pretty.
28:21
SPEAKER_02: The weird flat vocal harmony is very, very interesting.
28:25
SPEAKER_03: Vikings.
28:26
SPEAKER_03: My husband sits and listens to Gregorian chants and like smoke cigars.
28:31
SPEAKER_03: While thinking of Constantinople.
28:34
SPEAKER_02: Reading large leather bound tomes.
28:36
SPEAKER_03: You just love to say tomes.
28:38
SPEAKER_03: You say it as often as you can.
28:41
SPEAKER_02: Tomes.
28:43
SPEAKER_02: Vikings, surprisingly favorable.
28:45
SPEAKER_02: Clearly, these people do not.
28:49
They get their understanding of the Vikings from Assassin's
28:52
Creed games and
28:54
television shows because 51% of people like the Vikings and the
28:58
Vikings were not pleasant.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm just going to put it out there.
29:02
SPEAKER_03: They like Vikings and the Spanish Inquisition,
29:06
SPEAKER_03: which tells me something about what group of people they don't like.
29:13
SPEAKER_02: Vikings way out-polled the Spanish Inquisition, by the way.
29:17
SPEAKER_02: It is.
29:18
SPEAKER_02: Vikings have a 51%.
29:19
SPEAKER_02: They have a plurality of support in those polled by YouGov.
29:27
SPEAKER_03: The only thing is more... No who even answered these.
29:29
Like,
29:30
who at YouGov thought,
29:32
let's poll on a bunch of random medieval topics?
29:36
SPEAKER_03: Number one, that's why.
29:36
SPEAKER_02: Normally...
29:40
SPEAKER_02: These things are normally sponsored by someone.
29:44
SPEAKER_02: They don't normally do these for free.
29:45
SPEAKER_02: Someone must have paid them to do this.
29:47
SPEAKER_02: I think you did.
29:48
SPEAKER_02: You are trying to bring back the bourbon monarchy.
29:53
SPEAKER_03: And you totally funded this.
29:55
SPEAKER_03: We know that this is where your Twitter money went.
30:02
SPEAKER_02: Castles.
30:03
SPEAKER_02: Everyone loves a dungeon.
30:05
SPEAKER_02: Everybody.
30:05
SPEAKER_03: It's not going to your dream Montenegro trip.
30:08
SPEAKER_03: It is going to fund UCF surveys.
30:14
SPEAKER_02: 75% of people in favor of castles.
30:17
SPEAKER_02: This is a world we need to live in.
30:18
SPEAKER_02: We need more.
30:19
SPEAKER_02: The people demand more castles.
30:23
SPEAKER_03: Have you ever seen Bishop's Castle in Colorado?
30:25
SPEAKER_02: Or, like, heard of it?
30:27
SPEAKER_02: I've never been to Colorado.
30:28
SPEAKER_02: No, I haven't heard of it.
30:29
SPEAKER_02: No one liked Colorado.
30:30
SPEAKER_03: There's this random man,
30:32
SPEAKER_03: his last name was Bishop,
30:34
and he started building this castle and it's just like a bunch
30:37
of rocks and random stuff.
30:39
SPEAKER_03: It's so crazy and wild.
30:41
SPEAKER_03: It is a massive OSHA issue, but.
30:45
SPEAKER_02: People go and... There's so many castles around America.
30:50
I later found out this apparently...
30:51
Not a fan of American castles myself.
30:54
SPEAKER_03: They're really just awful, but... Why?
30:57
SPEAKER_03: What?
30:58
SPEAKER_03: Because they're not real.
31:00
SPEAKER_03: I mean,
31:00
SPEAKER_03: that's like...
31:02
SPEAKER_03: Okay,
31:03
SPEAKER_03: number one,
31:03
you have to understand when I travel through Europe with my son
31:07
and my husband,
31:08
SPEAKER_03: they will be like,
31:09
SPEAKER_03: when was this built?
31:10
SPEAKER_03: Nope, it's not a real castle.
31:12
SPEAKER_03: It is an estate.
31:13
SPEAKER_03: or it's a castle shaped stately home, but they're like castle purists.
31:18
SPEAKER_03: So I've been polluted.
31:21
SPEAKER_03: No, they really are.
31:22
I found a,
31:25
there was a video that I found a while back,
31:29
but it was from a couple of years ago.
31:30
SPEAKER_02: And I'd heard about this project a little bit.
31:33
There is some,
31:33
there's a group in France that like,
31:35
it's a nonprofit that bought a castle from,
31:40
somewhere in France,
31:41
I don't know,
31:43
that they are restoring entirely with period work.
31:49
SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
31:51
SPEAKER_02: They're using human-powered cranes.
31:54
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm talking about, like the hamster wheel cranes.
32:00
SPEAKER_02: It's like a working construction site castle.
32:04
SPEAKER_02: They finance themselves by tickets and tours.
32:07
SPEAKER_02: Should I go to France at some point?
32:09
SPEAKER_02: I will 100% go there.
32:11
SPEAKER_03: You need to go to France so badly.
32:13
SPEAKER_03: Number one, you use a French name on Twitter.
32:18
SPEAKER_03: It would be cool to go to France.
32:20
Plus,
32:21
your kids are also obsessed with Park Asterix,
32:23
which is the most fun.
32:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they want to go to Park Asterix.
32:26
And we need to go at some point when they're young enough to
32:28
really appreciate Park Asterix.
32:31
oh you will appreciate it always number one their rides are
32:34
really scary they have
32:35
some awesome rides i took my son um i want to remember how old
32:41
he was like seven or
32:42
eight when we went it was for his birthday if we booked a
32:45
birthday package which
32:46
was like insanely cheap and a bunch of people came and sang to
32:49
him in french it was
32:50
SPEAKER_03: awesome um
32:53
But we get there and my son's like,
32:55
I want to go on a wooden roller coaster.
32:56
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, OK, I think you're big enough.
32:59
SPEAKER_03: He was tall enough that I knew he'd fit.
33:02
SPEAKER_03: And we go on this ride.
33:04
SPEAKER_03: It is the most intense.
33:05
SPEAKER_03: I love I'm a ride person.
33:08
SPEAKER_03: It is the most intense wooden roller coaster I've ever been on.
33:12
SPEAKER_03: I was wearing Ray Bans and it was going so fast.
33:16
SPEAKER_03: It knocked the sunglasses I was wearing on my face, like off.
33:19
SPEAKER_03: I caught them in the air.
33:22
SPEAKER_03: We get to the end and he's just white and silent.
33:26
SPEAKER_03: And he's been on like no rides ever.
33:28
SPEAKER_03: And he wants to go on this ride.
33:30
SPEAKER_03: I was like, sure, bud, let's go.
33:33
it just scared the crap out of him i then i took him on all the
33:36
other rides and he
33:37
was like freaked out for the whole rest of the day he did this
33:39
stupid they have
33:40
this ride that looks like a shield and it just like toots
33:44
around the whole park
33:45
really slowly and he rode that even by himself like a million
33:49
times we're like okay
33:50
bud have fun um and then my husband and i like went and did
33:55
some rides by ourselves
33:56
SPEAKER_02: just without without your now traumatized child
34:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was like, okay, you watch the kids, you go do the ride.
34:04
SPEAKER_03: I had him do that wooden roller coaster because it was so great.
34:06
SPEAKER_03: But then there were some with like crazy loops.
34:09
It's a,
34:10
honestly,
34:10
their rides are really,
34:11
really fun and are definitely big kid.
34:16
SPEAKER_03: And their theming is insane.
34:18
SPEAKER_03: So when you go to somewhere like Disney,
34:20
SPEAKER_03: part of it is great because you're in this totally different world.
34:22
SPEAKER_03: It's totally immersive.
34:23
SPEAKER_03: Have you ever done Disney with your girls?
34:25
SPEAKER_02: No,
34:26
I have been very clear that I will spend the money on going to
34:29
Europe because going
34:29
SPEAKER_02: to Europe is probably cheaper.
34:31
SPEAKER_03: Oh, so much cheaper.
34:34
SPEAKER_03: We have done Disneyland a bunch just because I grew up in LA.
34:37
SPEAKER_03: I grew up going to Disneyland a lot.
34:39
SPEAKER_02: Disneyland is a different thing than Disney World.
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SPEAKER_02: When people talk about Disney, they're not talking about Disneyland.
34:47
SPEAKER_03: Well, they should be because Disneyland is far superior.
34:50
SPEAKER_03: It is so much more fun.
34:52
SPEAKER_03: And it's so much easier because if you get the park hopper pass,
34:55
SPEAKER_03: you can see where the lines are long and just like jump park to park.
34:58
Although now they have the whole like reservation system that
35:01
you have to like
35:02
SPEAKER_03: reserve what rides you're going to be on months before you even show up,
35:06
SPEAKER_03: which I just...
35:08
SPEAKER_03: That is so offensive to me.
35:09
SPEAKER_03: I can't like...
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But yeah,
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no,
35:12
going to Europe is so much cheaper and Park Asterix is so much fun.
35:16
It's super,
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super themed like a Disney park,
35:20
but everything's so inexpensive and I don't know.
35:23
SPEAKER_03: It's just better.
35:24
SPEAKER_02: That's in case should one of our many,
35:28
SPEAKER_02: many listeners be curious what the hell we're talking about.
35:31
It is a theme park that is based on the characters in the world
35:36
of the Asterix and Obelix.
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comic book series that is wildly popular in France,
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basically doesn't exist in America.
35:45
SPEAKER_02: No one is,
35:46
SPEAKER_02: for the most part,
35:46
SPEAKER_02: aware that it exists,
35:47
SPEAKER_02: and only weirdo Europhiles like Courtney and I are aware of it.
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My children have read all of the Asterix and Obelix books that
35:58
I have acquired for them.
35:59
SPEAKER_02: They've read a whole bunch.
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SPEAKER_02: They're obsessed with it.
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SPEAKER_02: They actually know a surprising amount of Roman history.
36:04
SPEAKER_02: It's...
36:08
SPEAKER_02: It's silly takes on the history,
36:10
SPEAKER_02: but at the same time,
36:10
SPEAKER_02: it actually does have legitimate Roman historical,
36:14
SPEAKER_02: Roman and Gallic historical facts in it.
36:18
SPEAKER_02: So my wife and I will be discussing some,
36:21
SPEAKER_02: right,
36:21
because the sorts of things we discuss over dinner sometimes do
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involve ancient Rome.
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SPEAKER_02: And
36:27
SPEAKER_02: And my kids will be like, oh, yeah, I knew about that.
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And then they'll quote some random thing from Asterix and
36:37
Obelix that goes with that.
36:43
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, that's the sort of conversation we have at dinner.
36:46
SPEAKER_03: It's so, so much fun and not for nothing.
36:49
SPEAKER_03: It's like 35 minutes from your fake hometown.
36:53
SPEAKER_02: It's not that far.
36:59
SPEAKER_02: Which I do need to go to and see the blasted out Hulk of the... You do.
37:02
SPEAKER_03: I've driven by there.
37:04
SPEAKER_03: Like,
37:04
SPEAKER_03: I haven't stopped or anything,
37:06
SPEAKER_03: and this is long before I knew you or ever thought of Cousy,
37:11
SPEAKER_03: but I drive...
37:14
SPEAKER_03: Usually when we're going to my brother-in-law's house,
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I like to go up that northern way and go through Luxembourg and
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then back down
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SPEAKER_03: through Frankfurt,
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SPEAKER_03: so...
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I enjoy that,
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obviously,
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A Distant Mirror used to be a much better known book than it is now.
37:31
SPEAKER_02: Tuckman was a much bigger thing than she is now.
37:34
SPEAKER_02: But,
37:35
SPEAKER_02: so,
37:35
SPEAKER_02: for a while,
37:36
SPEAKER_02: Angaran the Kusi had a big,
37:38
SPEAKER_02: there was a,
37:38
SPEAKER_02: like,
37:39
SPEAKER_02: people,
37:39
SPEAKER_02: but there's a lot,
37:41
SPEAKER_02: I talk to people quite frequently who are apparently only,
37:44
SPEAKER_02: like,
37:45
SPEAKER_02: they go off and look up information about him,
37:47
SPEAKER_02: or actually read A Distant Mirror,
37:49
SPEAKER_02: because
37:49
SPEAKER_02: They like my Twitter presence.
37:53
SPEAKER_03: That's hilarious.
37:56
I need to connect with some French tourism boards and we can
38:00
get you out and go.
38:04
SPEAKER_02: The best thing is,
38:05
SPEAKER_02: he was the last of the Cousies,
38:07
SPEAKER_02: so there is no extant family to be angry about it.
38:12
SPEAKER_02: There's a very distant family, but...
38:17
SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to make it happen.
38:20
SPEAKER_02: Speaking of historical figures,
38:22
SPEAKER_02: though,
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SPEAKER_02: in that same poll we were discussing earlier,
38:26
SPEAKER_02: they polled people about historical figures.
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SPEAKER_02: So, Joan of Arc, very popular.
38:34
SPEAKER_02: Everybody loves Joan in America for some reason.
38:39
SPEAKER_02: 67% favorable, followed by Marco Polo, 50%.
38:43
SPEAKER_02: Richard the Lionheart beats out Thomas Aquinas.
38:45
SPEAKER_02: I think that just speaks to the poor American.
38:49
SPEAKER_02: This is a name recognition thing.
38:51
SPEAKER_02: More people are aware of Richard from the Robin Hood book, Lily Tales.
38:55
And they probably think that Richard is a lion,
38:57
like in the Disney cartoon.
38:59
SPEAKER_02: They probably do.
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When you say Prince John,
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they think of the lion from the...
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I'm singing this song.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm singing it silently.
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SPEAKER_02: Richard the Lionheart beats out Charlemagne.
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SPEAKER_02: Literally, Charlemagne.
39:19
SPEAKER_02: Charles the Great.
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Americans have a very interesting grasp of history and
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historical figures.
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Of course,
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Joan of Arc is popular because Joan of Arc is seen as a
39:36
feminist hero now.
39:38
SPEAKER_02: Which is so silly.
39:40
SPEAKER_03: And not a religious zealot.
39:42
SPEAKER_03: Like, she actually was.
39:43
SPEAKER_03: I mean, what?
39:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
39:46
SPEAKER_02: No, no.
39:48
SPEAKER_02: She would not be down with any of modern feminism.
39:51
SPEAKER_02: No.
39:52
SPEAKER_02: No.
39:52
SPEAKER_03: But she is held up as, like, the feminist icon.
39:55
SPEAKER_02: Because she cut her hair short in war men's clothes to fight.
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SPEAKER_02: That was, you know, I'm not sure.
40:03
I'm sure she has been claimed by the by some LGBTQ groups as
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one of their own.
40:10
SPEAKER_03: Oh, it's been debated whether or not she was trans.
40:13
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, can we just not?
40:15
SPEAKER_02: She was not.
40:17
SPEAKER_02: It was a major symbolic thing that she was doing.
40:20
SPEAKER_02: It had nothing to do with anything else.
40:22
SPEAKER_03: It had everything to do with religion,
40:25
SPEAKER_03: which most people who raise her up as a feminist icon are very against.
40:31
SPEAKER_02: Irreligious, in fact.
40:32
SPEAKER_03: She was doing this to help preserve the patriarchy, ladies.
40:36
SPEAKER_02: Come on.
40:37
SPEAKER_02: She was bringing the French throne back.
40:41
SPEAKER_02: Hildegard von Bingen.
40:46
SPEAKER_02: Quite favorable, relatively.
40:48
SPEAKER_02: So 72% never heard of her.
40:49
SPEAKER_02: You've heard of Hildegard von Bingen, right?
40:52
probably i can't think at the moment she was a i don't remember
40:57
what whatever what
40:58
i think i think it was actually 14th century uh she was a
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mystic she she was the
41:03
feminists actually really do i think why she has 20
41:06
favorability 72 never heard of
41:08
a 9 unfavorable uh is because um feminists really like
41:13
hildegard von bingen she she
41:15
SPEAKER_02: was a
41:16
SPEAKER_02: She wrote a lot of liturgical music.
41:19
So she was very notable for being a woman who was writing
41:24
liturgical music used by
41:26
SPEAKER_02: the contemporary church.
41:28
SPEAKER_02: She was very popular.
41:29
What about me makes you think that I would know a composer that
41:33
wrote a lot of
41:34
SPEAKER_03: music for the contemporary church?
41:38
SPEAKER_02: Because you're a big feminist?
41:40
SPEAKER_02: I thought you'd probably know her from the feminist icon status.
41:43
SPEAKER_03: Huge feminist.
41:46
SPEAKER_02: Saladin, not popular.
41:49
SPEAKER_02: Saladin, 18% favorable, 16% unfavorable.
41:54
SPEAKER_02: That's a shameful number.
41:58
SPEAKER_02: 67% never heard of Saladin, even more shameful number.
42:02
SPEAKER_02: People need to be familiarizing themselves with these things.
42:05
I think they pulled some very interesting people who responded
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to this survey.
42:11
SPEAKER_02: I don't believe this survey because no one called me.
42:15
It's my understanding we don't have to listen to any surveys
42:18
that we weren't called for.
42:19
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
42:20
SPEAKER_02: I don't believe a word of this.
42:24
SPEAKER_03: I mean, the Joan of Arc one is just hilarious to me.
42:30
SPEAKER_03: I am surprised that she... These are people who were pro-Black Plague.
42:35
SPEAKER_03: It's true.
42:37
SPEAKER_02: It's a good point.
42:38
SPEAKER_03: Or the people who say they don't know about the Black Plague.
42:42
SPEAKER_03: How do you not...
42:44
How do you say,
42:44
oh,
42:44
I don't know if I have a favorable view of that or not?
42:48
SPEAKER_03: That's hard.
42:49
SPEAKER_03: You either like it because you're genocidal or you're against it.
42:54
SPEAKER_03: There's not really a lot of gray area.
42:56
SPEAKER_02: It's an odd thing to be on the fence about.
42:58
SPEAKER_02: I'll give you that.
42:58
SPEAKER_02: I don't understand how that would work.
43:04
I could see being on the fence about Joan of Arc because you've
43:06
heard feminist
43:07
SPEAKER_03: stories about her,
43:08
SPEAKER_03: but you also know that she was working to preserve the patriarchy.
43:12
SPEAKER_03: They don't know that.
43:12
SPEAKER_02: I can see that.
43:13
SPEAKER_03: No, they have no idea.
43:15
SPEAKER_02: They made a movie!
43:17
SPEAKER_03: Years ago,
43:20
SPEAKER_02: they made a movie about her with Mila Jovovich,
43:24
SPEAKER_02: I think,
43:24
SPEAKER_02: played Joan of Arc,
43:26
SPEAKER_02: and John Malkovich played the Dauphin.
43:33
SPEAKER_02: Which I recall liking.
43:34
SPEAKER_02: It was a good movie.
43:35
But that was probably the last time anyone's actively thought
43:38
about Joan of Arc on
43:38
SPEAKER_02: a regular basis when that movie was out in,
43:41
SPEAKER_02: like,
43:41
SPEAKER_02: 1998.
43:42
SPEAKER_03: I think the French do more often than we're giving credit for.
43:47
SPEAKER_03: But they're the French, so.
43:51
SPEAKER_03: Do you see?
43:52
SPEAKER_03: You are the one who shared it.
43:53
SPEAKER_03: There was that stabbing in France today.
43:56
SPEAKER_02: Yes, and how do we establish it as nonsense?
43:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's nonsense.
44:02
people in america will often call it nantes um yeah no there
44:06
was america can't
44:08
pronounce french things at all look i've been to france enough
44:11
to know that my
44:12
franglish is awful and i i can't even pronounce english words
44:17
correctly like i
44:18
can't do it for other languages i just but i i know that i'm
44:24
pronouncing it wrong
44:27
SPEAKER_02: Yes,
44:29
a far-left student attacked his classmates and left a manifesto
44:39
citing three broad
44:40
SPEAKER_02: categories for why he felt this had to be done,
44:43
SPEAKER_02: which was global ecocide,
44:45
SPEAKER_02: which is the sum of human activities that destroy,
44:47
SPEAKER_02: fragment,
44:48
SPEAKER_02: poison,
44:48
SPEAKER_02: or commodify living things.
44:50
SPEAKER_02: evoking the disappearances of species,
44:52
SPEAKER_02: chemical contamination,
44:54
SPEAKER_02: concreting,
44:54
SPEAKER_02: industrial exploitation,
44:56
SPEAKER_02: and the loss of ecological knowledge.
44:58
SPEAKER_03: It's always the freaking eco-terrorists.
45:01
SPEAKER_02: I know.
45:01
Who are anti-Colorado,
45:03
but there was in the 90s when Vale expanded into their back bowls.
45:08
SPEAKER_03: They built this huge... It's like a... I don't know.
45:12
It's like a lodge up on top of the mountain where you go in and
45:15
it's a restaurant and stuff.
45:18
SPEAKER_03: It was called Two Elk.
45:19
SPEAKER_03: Huge, huge brand new thing.
45:22
Part of the complaints about it is that all of Vale's back
45:27
bulls are in lynx habitat.
45:30
SPEAKER_03: And they were pissed because the lynx is endangered.
45:33
SPEAKER_03: So the eco-terrorists hiked up.
45:37
SPEAKER_03: And burnt down two elk, like right after it was built.
45:40
SPEAKER_03: And it was like, what are you doing?
45:41
SPEAKER_03: That just takes... So Vale just built it back, but bigger.
45:45
SPEAKER_03: And it's like, what are you doing, people?
45:47
SPEAKER_03: Like, why?
45:49
They actually worked against themselves because the burning was
45:52
not good for the environment.
45:54
SPEAKER_02: And then having to build it twice, not good for the environment.
45:57
SPEAKER_02: Very stupid.
45:58
SPEAKER_02: These are stupid people.
46:00
SPEAKER_03: Eco-terrorists burn things in Colorado more often than not.
46:04
SPEAKER_02: I remember years ago,
46:06
SPEAKER_02: this was like in the late 90s,
46:07
SPEAKER_02: there was this group called ELF,
46:10
SPEAKER_02: the Earth Liberation Front.
46:11
SPEAKER_03: Yes, they're still...
46:14
SPEAKER_03: They have splinter groups.
46:17
SPEAKER_02: Where I grew up, there was a lot of logging.
46:21
SPEAKER_02: They were going around randomly spiking trees,
46:24
SPEAKER_02: which is you put a metal spike into the tree so that when a logger,
46:30
SPEAKER_02: you know,
46:31
SPEAKER_02: a guy whose job is being a logger,
46:32
SPEAKER_02: this is what he does,
46:33
SPEAKER_02: he's a logger,
46:34
SPEAKER_02: just feeding his family.
46:36
SPEAKER_02: He goes to cut the tree with his chainsaw.
46:39
SPEAKER_02: It hits the metal spike and rebounds on him and ideally kills him.
46:43
SPEAKER_02: These are horrifying people.
46:45
SPEAKER_03: Really warm and cuddly people.
46:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
46:49
SPEAKER_02: No, no.
46:51
SPEAKER_02: There is always a lot of German drunk about any time anyone,
46:55
SPEAKER_02: any right-wing person,
46:57
SPEAKER_02: you know,
46:57
SPEAKER_02: does anything untoward.
46:59
SPEAKER_02: Anyone who aligns with the right wing, even if we don't want them.
47:03
SPEAKER_03: That's one thing.
47:04
SPEAKER_03: That's one thing.
47:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
47:05
SPEAKER_03: I mean, look, there's a lot of complete moronic idiots.
47:10
SPEAKER_03: Frankly, I think they were all the ones that responded to that survey.
47:14
SPEAKER_03: But...
47:16
SPEAKER_03: I have a real issue lately.
47:19
SPEAKER_03: Anytime you look at the media,
47:20
SPEAKER_03: they're like,
47:21
SPEAKER_03: look,
47:21
SPEAKER_03: there's no examples of violence on the far left.
47:23
SPEAKER_03: It's only a far right phenomenon.
47:26
SPEAKER_03: Worldwide, people are saying this.
47:28
SPEAKER_03: And there keep being instances that happen.
47:32
And we never talk about the fact that the left is just as violent,
47:36
if not more so.
47:38
SPEAKER_03: There's so many examples of it.
47:40
Yes,
47:41
the weird racist incel people on the right need to be called
47:45
out and dealt with.
47:47
SPEAKER_03: But why aren't we doing that on the other side as well?
47:50
SPEAKER_02: Well, it's the Obama tan suit thing.
47:53
You'll see people being like...
47:55
The only controversy is that he wore a tan suit.
48:00
SPEAKER_02: There were all sorts of controversies.
48:01
SPEAKER_02: No one actually cared about the tan suit thing.
48:04
SPEAKER_03: Not that he was drone striking freaking families every other day,
48:08
SPEAKER_03: but...
48:09
SPEAKER_02: Or,
48:09
SPEAKER_02: you know,
48:10
shipping massive numbers of guns to Mexican cartels and some
48:15
weird harebrained
48:16
SPEAKER_02: attempts to...
48:18
SPEAKER_02: To infiltrate their supply lines.
48:20
SPEAKER_02: It just ended up with them having a whole bunch of new guns.
48:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
48:25
Fast and Furious,
48:26
the fact that we've never looked into any of that is just wild.
48:30
The fact that we've never had any account for the pallets of
48:35
money going back to
48:37
SPEAKER_03: Iran that then are shooting against our tax dollars in Israel.
48:42
There are so many things that I'm like,
48:44
no,
48:44
there were a million different controversies.
48:47
SPEAKER_03: I'm so sick of hearing about the tan suit because no one freaking cares.
48:50
SPEAKER_03: I'm
48:50
SPEAKER_03: Have you looked at the closets of Republicans?
48:53
SPEAKER_03: They're full of things like ugly tan suits.
48:55
SPEAKER_03: No one cares.
48:57
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
48:59
So I guarantee this dude and not if there was any way to tie
49:05
him to what's her face?
49:08
SPEAKER_02: The Marielle.
49:10
SPEAKER_03: Oh, it would be all over the news nonstop.
49:15
SPEAKER_02: Whereas this guy who,
49:16
SPEAKER_02: you know,
49:16
SPEAKER_02: this incredible eco-nut,
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SPEAKER_02: there will be no attempt to tie him to Greta Thunberg.
49:23
There will be no attempt to tie him to the French left,
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who he is a creature of.
49:27
And that's,
49:28
I think,
49:28
what annoys people more than anything about a lot of this.
49:31
It's why media as an institution has had such problems getting
49:36
people to believe them,
49:38
SPEAKER_02: because it's become so obvious.
49:40
They used to at least,
49:40
I think,
49:41
try to be subtle about this stuff,
49:42
and they're not anymore.
49:43
SPEAKER_03: It's so blatantly dishonest.
49:46
SPEAKER_03: I can't handle it.
49:48
SPEAKER_03: It's really hard because it does happen on all sides.
49:51
SPEAKER_03: But
49:51
I do feel like there are so many on the Republican side that
49:56
will hold our side to account.
49:58
SPEAKER_03: There's so many never Trumpers.
50:02
SPEAKER_03: It's not hard to call out things that go wrong on the right.
50:05
SPEAKER_03: And that's a good thing because it encourages our side to be better.
50:10
SPEAKER_03: But we need the other side to call themselves to account, too.
50:14
SPEAKER_03: They're not infallible.
50:15
SPEAKER_03: It's just...
50:18
SPEAKER_02: No, I agree.
50:19
SPEAKER_02: Democrats will say the same thing.
50:23
SPEAKER_02: Democrats and liberals will say the same thing about the right.
50:25
SPEAKER_02: They'll say, oh, we call out.
50:27
SPEAKER_02: I disagree.
50:27
For the most part,
50:28
they only call out people who are no longer politically useful
50:31
for them.
50:32
They are literally today saying there's no examples of
50:37
extremism on the far left
50:39
SPEAKER_03: and political violence is a solely far right problem.
50:43
SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah.
50:45
what that's it's insane this this is no current examples it was
50:51
a couple only a
50:52
couple years ago there was the um in georgia i think atlanta
50:56
they're building a big
50:57
police training center outside of atlanta it was a maximum
51:01
security prison wasn't
51:03
SPEAKER_03: it another for-profit prison and the like police training center
51:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and there's this mob of leftists who have attacked it.
51:13
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if anybody died, but a lot of people got hurt.
51:16
SPEAKER_02: This is an ongoing thing.
51:18
SPEAKER_02: The left,
51:22
SPEAKER_02: a lot of ink gets spilled about January 6th with,
51:25
SPEAKER_02: again,
51:25
SPEAKER_02: I will go on the record as saying I thought that was stupid at the time.
51:27
SPEAKER_02: I think it was incredibly stupid and highly dangerous.
51:31
SPEAKER_02: But the left does these things constantly.
51:34
SPEAKER_03: But they were called to account for that.
51:36
SPEAKER_03: They were prosecuted, as they should be.
51:41
SPEAKER_03: But,
51:41
SPEAKER_03: like,
51:41
SPEAKER_03: the left doesn't...
51:42
SPEAKER_03: There was not one prosecution that happened after...
51:46
SPEAKER_03: Do you remember when they stormed the White House and they were like,
51:49
SPEAKER_03: oh,
51:49
SPEAKER_03: Trump's such a wuss.
51:50
SPEAKER_03: He's hiding in the basement.
51:51
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like,
51:52
he's hiding in the basement because y'all tried to storm and
51:54
overrun a government facility,
51:56
SPEAKER_03: which apparently now you're super against.
51:58
SPEAKER_03: You should be against that.
52:00
SPEAKER_03: But, like...
52:01
Don't be for it magically or whitewash it or just conveniently
52:05
forget that it
52:05
SPEAKER_03: happened when it was your side doing it.
52:09
SPEAKER_02: No, they memory hold that one.
52:10
SPEAKER_02: That one never gets talked about at all.
52:12
SPEAKER_03: Never,
52:12
SPEAKER_03: ever,
52:12
ever talk about – they never talk about how they burnt that
52:15
church that then Trump
52:18
SPEAKER_03: went and held a Bible upside down in front of.
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That was an unforced error on Trump's – I mean – One of the
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many Trump unforced
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SPEAKER_02: messaging errors.
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SPEAKER_03: It's a day that ends in Y. Like –
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But we can sit here and say that and we can joke about that and
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have fun with that.
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SPEAKER_03: And none of that introspection from the other side ever occurs.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, no, that's the long time ago.
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I think I heard a thing that was that I've always liked that
52:48
the only dead,
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SPEAKER_02: the only bad Democrat from the Democrat standpoint is the Democrat.
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is is is a dead or politically dead democrat like you know that
52:59
was ted kennedy was
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the lion of the senate right up until he died and suddenly
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suddenly it's like well
53:04
now we can talk about you know ted kennedy you know we don't
53:08
support that well you
53:08
supported him for like 50 years and you wait you wait until now
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to to be like oh
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i've got qualms about that dude so please don't give me that
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it's like they've
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SPEAKER_03: never read death at chappaquiddick
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SPEAKER_02: Yep.
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SPEAKER_02: There's a movie.
53:25
SPEAKER_02: I haven't actually seen it.
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There's a movie called Chappaquiddick that they made years ago
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that was supposed to
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SPEAKER_02: be good and was supposed to be actually fairly,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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did not paint them in a good light because there is no way to
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paint them in a good light.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, the book definitely does.
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SPEAKER_03: I have a great, very old copy of it.
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SPEAKER_03: I can loan it to you.
53:45
SPEAKER_03: Look at me actually having a book.
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Are you sure your husband doesn't have the book and you have
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access to it?
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SPEAKER_03: It is mine, but it is on his bookshelf.
53:58
SPEAKER_03: He would never read such things.
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SPEAKER_03: He already doesn't like the Kennedys.
54:04
SPEAKER_02: There's not a lot to like.
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SPEAKER_02: That includes Robert.
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SPEAKER_02: Robert's a nut.
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SPEAKER_03: He just really.
54:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm not a huge.
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SPEAKER_03: Although I will say he is doing some things that we've all asked for.
54:17
SPEAKER_03: But because of the wrong reasons,
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SPEAKER_03: but because it's coming from him,
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SPEAKER_03: all of a sudden we're like,
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SPEAKER_03: oh,
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SPEAKER_03: this sucks.
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And I'm like,
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well,
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actually,
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I think it's a good idea to explore the roots of severe autism.
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I actually think it's a good idea to find out some of these
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things to look at
54:34
SPEAKER_03: things like endometriosis,
54:35
SPEAKER_03: which we have zero funding for.
54:38
We have more funding every year looking at reversing balding
54:44
than we do endometriosis,
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SPEAKER_03: which I'm like,
54:46
SPEAKER_03: how do you think we're going to raise the birth rate,
54:48
SPEAKER_03: people?
54:49
SPEAKER_03: None of us can get pregnant because we all have it.
54:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I read this because he's got a thing.
54:57
He wants to get cell phones out of schools because he thinks
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cell phone waves are
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SPEAKER_02: hurting children.
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SPEAKER_02: Um,
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SPEAKER_02: And I want to get cell phones at a school,
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SPEAKER_02: so I don't think kids should have cell phones at school.
55:08
SPEAKER_02: But in conjunction with that,
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SPEAKER_02: I read a thing that said that Robert Kennedy,
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he's like a weird person in a comic fictional book where he
55:20
does the right thing,
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SPEAKER_02: but for the wrong reasons all the time.
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SPEAKER_02: You're like, whatever, I'll take it.
55:27
SPEAKER_02: It kind of works out.
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The thing's getting done,
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even if the reason why he wants to do it is insane.
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SPEAKER_02: Look, if it works, it works.
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SPEAKER_02: Yep.
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SPEAKER_02: No,
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SPEAKER_02: but yeah,
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SPEAKER_02: the entire Kennedy clan,
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SPEAKER_02: I saw somebody was trying to paint him,
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SPEAKER_02: got a ridiculous number of legs,
55:46
SPEAKER_02: someone saying,
55:47
SPEAKER_02: Robert,
55:47
SPEAKER_02: Robert Kennedy Jr.'
55:48
SPEAKER_02: 's sister was lobotomized and he did nothing about it.
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SPEAKER_02: I was like,
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SPEAKER_02: no,
55:53
that was his aunt and that was his dad and his uncle who didn't
55:56
do anything about
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Rosemary getting lobotomized and sent off to a mental
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institution for the rest of
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SPEAKER_02: her life,
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SPEAKER_02: debatably because she was...
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giving the family a bad name by being loose,
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which is entertaining in itself.
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SPEAKER_03: She's an Irish woman.
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SPEAKER_03: What did you expect?
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SPEAKER_02: I know.
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Well,
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it's just entertaining because apparently all the men were
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allowed to do that.
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SPEAKER_03: I shouldn't say that as an Irish woman.
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SPEAKER_02: I'd say that as a not Irish person.
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SPEAKER_02: No, I wouldn't.
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SPEAKER_02: I have nothing but respect for the Irish.
56:29
SPEAKER_02: I love a good shamrock shake as much as the next guy.
56:38
SPEAKER_03: I really, really do need to add video at some point to this.
56:42
SPEAKER_02: The official drink of Ireland, the Shamrock Shake.
56:47
SPEAKER_03: I just got a text alert.
56:49
SPEAKER_03: This is so helpful.
56:50
SPEAKER_03: UPS has started sending me text alerts,
56:53
SPEAKER_03: giving me the time that packages are going to show up at my house,
56:56
SPEAKER_03: and they're usually fairly accurate,
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SPEAKER_03: but I'm really helpful so that I can intercept.
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My husband's working from home today,
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so I'm happy that they're letting me know,
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like,
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hey,
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SPEAKER_02: This is a present for your husband you don't want him to see?
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_03: It's crap I don't need that I bought myself that I don't need him to see.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, openness and honesty is very important in marriage.
57:26
SPEAKER_02: We'll put that out there.
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SPEAKER_03: He will notice when I'm wearing all new clothes that I got them.
57:30
SPEAKER_03: I don't need to advertise the fact.
57:33
SPEAKER_01: That's fair.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, I pay the credit card bills.
57:37
SPEAKER_03: If he wanted to, he could be the one to do it.
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SPEAKER_03: I like that he doesn't really see all of my spending.
57:49
SPEAKER_02: All right.
57:49
On that note,
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with you just blowing huge amounts of money on random frippery.
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SPEAKER_03: I was buying clothes from J.Crew.
58:00
SPEAKER_03: I'm not like buying Gucci.
58:02
SPEAKER_02: My wife's wedding dress is from J.Crew, I think.
58:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm pretty sure it was J.Crew.
58:05
SPEAKER_02: But it wasn't a real wedding dress.
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SPEAKER_02: She just bought herself an ice cream dress that she may still have.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure.
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SPEAKER_02: She said she didn't want to buy a dress she was only going to wear once.
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SPEAKER_03: I bought a wedding dress, but it was, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: It was not that I wanted to elope.
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SPEAKER_03: I had to go buy the big white dress because groomzilla that I married.
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SPEAKER_03: I needed to have his big party.
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SPEAKER_02: In fairness,
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SPEAKER_02: I know the Catholic Church isn't fond of eloping,
58:38
SPEAKER_02: and I can't imagine the Orthodox one is either.
58:40
SPEAKER_03: No,
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SPEAKER_03: the Orthodox,
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what I proposed was I wanted to have a like have our church
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wedding because you
58:46
SPEAKER_03: have to have the ceremony.
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And then we just have like a barbecue or like pizza party or
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something like with
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SPEAKER_03: our friends and stuff afterwards.
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SPEAKER_03: Just have a party and then go.
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SPEAKER_03: So Orthodox don't say vows in our weddings.
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SPEAKER_03: It's not something we do at all.
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You're married like in the back of the church and then they
59:06
have the whole liturgy
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SPEAKER_03: afterwards and
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SPEAKER_03: Orthodox weddings are really, really cool, but they're very different.
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SPEAKER_03: If you've watched my big fat Greek wedding, it's like that.
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SPEAKER_03: We do like an exorcism to start the wedding.
59:18
SPEAKER_03: People spit on your dress.
59:19
SPEAKER_03: It's a whole wild thing.
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SPEAKER_02: Unhygienic.
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it's not like real spit it's like like you're spitting at the
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devil anyway so
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orthodox weddings very different don't say vows i wanted us to
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do the church thing
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and then go to scotland and like in front of a castle say a vow
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and have just our
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families there and just do more of a party and i was is that is
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that we ended up
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SPEAKER_02: getting
59:47
SPEAKER_03: No,
59:47
SPEAKER_03: we had like the huge,
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SPEAKER_03: I think we had like a hundred something people,
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SPEAKER_03: like 10 of them were mine.
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SPEAKER_03: And we rented out a ranch and like, it was a great fun party.
59:59
SPEAKER_03: We were very wild.
1:00:02
We had ended in air guitars,
1:00:05
but we just rented out a ranch and did the whole thing.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_03: We had a bagpiper.
1:00:09
SPEAKER_00: Oh, fancy.
1:00:12
SPEAKER_03: It was a very long time ago.
1:00:13
SPEAKER_00: Very Scottish.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_03: We had a long time ago.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_02: We hired a big band.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_02: That was our big thing.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_02: We had a,
1:00:23
I think we hired a quartet and then they brought along two
1:00:27
others who just,
1:00:28
SPEAKER_02: from their group,
1:00:28
SPEAKER_02: we just wanted something to do.
1:00:32
And they,
1:00:32
they,
1:00:32
they played,
1:00:33
played nice,
1:00:34
like,
1:00:34
you know,
1:00:34
nice swing music.
1:00:35
SPEAKER_02: We danced too.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_02: It was nice.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_03: I just I we played a lot of music.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_03: We ended on the funniest song.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_03: You would have no idea the band's name or the song.
1:00:48
SPEAKER_03: It's like a country.
1:00:51
And the final song that we ended on was about this guy whose
1:00:58
wife is cheating on
1:00:59
SPEAKER_03: him and divorcing him and he's going to go kill himself.
1:01:02
And my husband's friend was like,
1:01:05
we cannot end a wedding like on this song.
1:01:09
I was trying to bribe the DJ to get him to play another song
1:01:12
and he wouldn't.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_03: And yeah, so it's kind of one of our unofficial wedding songs.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you'll find this song for me so I can hear it.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_02: I'm curious what song it is.
1:01:21
SPEAKER_03: I will send it to you.
1:01:23
SPEAKER_03: Do you Spotify?
1:01:25
SPEAKER_03: Of course I have Spotify.
1:01:27
SPEAKER_02: Everyone has Spotify.
1:01:29
Actually,
1:01:31
a lot of my guy friends who are into pursuits like you are not
1:01:37
Spotify people.
1:01:38
We have a Spotify family account that multiple of my wife's
1:01:42
family members are on,
1:01:43
SPEAKER_02: so I actually can't get rid of Spotify.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_02: If I'm trimming down,
1:01:47
I would feel bad getting rid of Spotify because there are
1:01:51
multiple people who would
1:01:52
SPEAKER_02: then not have Spotify anymore.
1:01:54
Apple Music doesn't work well in my car because my car is
1:01:59
fighting with Apple at the moment.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_03: So I have to have Spotify if I want radio in my car.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_01: Great.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_01: Good job, Rivian.
1:02:07
SPEAKER_03: No FM radio.
1:02:10
SPEAKER_01: You don't have FM radio?
1:02:11
SPEAKER_03: No, they just don't make them.
1:02:12
SPEAKER_03: Rivian just does not put FM in.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_03: I get AM and that's it.
1:02:17
SPEAKER_03: What?
1:02:18
SPEAKER_00: Or Spotify.
1:02:21
Actually,
1:02:22
the Apple thing with it is actually really interesting and you
1:02:25
might be in favor of.
1:02:28
SPEAKER_03: To run CarPlay and Apple,
1:02:30
SPEAKER_03: like have the interface with Apple products,
1:02:33
SPEAKER_03: Apple has to be able to write over your code.
1:02:37
SPEAKER_03: And Rivian's like, no, you're not getting access to our code.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_03: When you have an EV, the entire point is the code.
1:02:48
This is an area where the fact that Apple is off and on trying
1:02:53
to make their own
1:02:54
SPEAKER_02: autonomous driving cars, electric cars, likely feeds into this.
1:02:58
SPEAKER_02: You're potentially giving up trade secrets to a potential competitor.
1:03:03
SPEAKER_03: And they don't want to do that.
1:03:04
SPEAKER_03: So long story short,
1:03:05
that's why you get a lot of text messages I'm intending to send
1:03:09
to my husband
1:03:10
SPEAKER_03: because my car's interface doesn't actually work with my phone.
1:03:16
SPEAKER_01: On that note, we're going to go.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_01: I think we did a good job today.
1:03:20
SPEAKER_01: We didn't talk over each other as much.
1:03:22
SPEAKER_03: I think we were better about that.
1:03:24
SPEAKER_03: And I'm going to mute all the parts where we did.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_02: My wife will tell me if we talk over each other too much.
1:03:30
SPEAKER_02: She tells me these things.
1:03:31
SPEAKER_03: We did a little bit, but I'll just cut the mic.
1:03:34
SPEAKER_03: It's pretty easy to do.
1:03:36
SPEAKER_02: Sounds good.
1:03:38
SPEAKER_02: I'll talk to you later.
1:03:39
SPEAKER_00: All right.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_01: Bye.