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Love on the Spectrum U.S. Season 4 Episode 1 with Psych Legal Pop · Vanity Farah with Chris Farah

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  Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome back to Vanity Farah. I am so
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  Speaker 1: pumped to bring you the first episode of Love on
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  Speaker 1: the Spectrum. It's season four and I have enjoyed watching
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  Speaker 1: every season of the show. It's almost the perfect counterpart
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  Speaker 1: to nonade fiance and it's organicness, it's authenticity, and yet
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  Speaker 1: the same need to find a soulmate. It's so beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: So at the same time, I get to have a
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  Speaker 1: very fun collab today with the girls of psych Legal, Pop,
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  Speaker 1: Brooke and Tests. I hope you enjoy this really special episode.
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  Speaker 1: Please go to their podcast and make sure you listen
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  Speaker 1: to our episode two as well as give them a
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  Speaker 1: little comment on their social media's telling them that you
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  Speaker 1: came from me. Honey, I am the mother, just kidding.
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  Speaker 1: At the same time, if you want more episodes of
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  Speaker 1: Love on the Spectrum, they will completely exist.
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  Speaker 2: On my Patreon only.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, yes, there'll be eight episodes total for Love
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  Speaker 1: and the Spectrum. And going to bring you two episodes
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  Speaker 1: at a time so we can like really dive in
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  Speaker 1: and lengthy episodes for these beautiful couples and these beautiful
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  Speaker 1: people on the journey for love. So episode one is
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  Speaker 1: about to happen for you right now as your ears
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  Speaker 1: listen episode two on Psych Legal Pops, RSS feed and
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the episode slash recaps for Love and
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  Speaker 1: the Spectrum or on my Patreon.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much for listening. I hope you
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  Speaker 3: enjoy this episode. All right bye, Hello everyone. I am
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  Speaker 3: super excited to have two fabulous guests from Psych Legal Pop.
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  Speaker 3: And they are professional, professional ladies, which is great because obviously,
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  Speaker 3: at the same time, are you sick of hearing me
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  Speaker 3: say the word like a billion times?
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to have to deal with that. People
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  Speaker 1: are educated.
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  Speaker 2: Here.
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  Speaker 1: However, we get to talk about one of the best, sweetest,
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  Speaker 1: loveliest shows on television, almost like a palate cleanser for
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  Speaker 1: everything happening in the world, and that is Love and
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  Speaker 1: the Spectrum. And this is season four, this is episode one,
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  Speaker 1: and I am so pumped. Hello, Test, Hi, Brooke, how
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  Speaker 1: are you hello.
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  Speaker 2: I do say like hello, yeah, because we also don't
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  Speaker 2: worry like you are Native Californians, so I know you're
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  Speaker 2: southern California. We're northern California. But it's just it's just
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  Speaker 2: part of our vernacular. It's just who we are as Californians.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, good because I don't feel, you know, that it
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  Speaker 1: dumbs down my speech. And at the same time, I
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  Speaker 1: was a theater arts major, so I didn't have to
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  Speaker 1: talk anyone into anything. But I love watching the show,
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  Speaker 1: and specifically I cry a lot during the show. And
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting to me because I watch a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Ninety Day Fiance and this show and nine at a
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  Speaker 1: Fiance and I think that a lot of the world
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  Speaker 1: experience's profound loneliness and the way that people on Love
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  Speaker 1: and the Spectrum get to express that is so universal
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  Speaker 1: and it really hits in a certain way.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm so.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously happy to have new people, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: miss some of the people we don't have anymore on
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  Speaker 1: this season.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of a bittersweet situation. H Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But I saw that Abby and David were coming back, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they were the original it couple of this show season one,
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 1: But there was this lovely woman named Pari that was
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  Speaker 1: on last season and she stole everyone's hearts and she
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  Speaker 1: loves the tea. She's like in Boston, and she was
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  Speaker 1: starting her like lesbian relationship. It was so sweet, and
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  Speaker 1: we're like, oh my god, why is why isn't she back?
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  Speaker 1: And Danny isn't back? Who was also on season one?
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  Speaker 1: She was like a communication mogul animation mogul.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I remember her. So why wouldn't they bring
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  Speaker 2: this person back? Do you have any do you know why?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I know not. Okay. What I find
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  Speaker 2: that I think back to your comment about how like
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  Speaker 2: sweet it is. It's that you are watching people say
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  Speaker 2: the quiet parts out loud like they really. You are
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  Speaker 2: watching people fall in love and you get to hear
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  Speaker 2: or like date, and you get to hear like what
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  Speaker 2: we are all thinking. Truly, we just don't say it
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  Speaker 2: out loud, I know. And don't we test well because
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  Speaker 2: it's very vulnerable. I mean, the things that they're saying
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  Speaker 2: are very very vulnerable, that you know. I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 2: lots of people weren't asked to the prom. I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: asked to the prom, and I'm listening to this story
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  Speaker 2: and it's like, oh my god, but what I mentioned
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  Speaker 2: is ever?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: My husband knows that well. You just told everyone. I know,
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  Speaker 2: I just told the world so sober, yeah sober?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know you actually test well? I
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  Speaker 1: keep talking for you, honey. I don't know, maybe we
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  Speaker 1: are having some fun at all. It's already two fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: No, but it's just but it is, it's, it's, it's
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  Speaker 2: and it's really it's sort of like it's us at
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  Speaker 2: our best, like when we are vulnerable and real and
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  Speaker 2: willing to kind of say this is who I am,
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  Speaker 2: Take me or leave me. That is us at our
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  Speaker 2: at our finest. And and so I think that's what's
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  Speaker 2: so amazing about the show. It reminded me a lot
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  Speaker 2: of a show that I watched this was pre pandemic
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  Speaker 2: called Born This Way? What No, what is.
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  Speaker 1: Born this Way? So it is it's obviously the greatest
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  Speaker 1: you know love Lady Gaga, Yeah whatever, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So it was on an E and it was this
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  Speaker 2: show about a group of people who men and women
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  Speaker 2: who had Down syndrome and they were all part of
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  Speaker 2: this like day program where they all went and so
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  Speaker 2: they got a film crew to go and and so
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  Speaker 2: you watch their lives and it was basically the story
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  Speaker 2: of their lives. And one was this rapper that song
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  Speaker 2: still stuck in my head. I like his song was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: it's like something about shaking your booty and I was
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  Speaker 2: like sometimes I can hear that. And there was like
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  Speaker 2: an it couple and there was like the diva and
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  Speaker 2: she was you know, and then there was this guy
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  Speaker 2: and they were the it couple, and it was really
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  Speaker 2: it's the story of very much like this where you
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  Speaker 2: they've focused a lot on the parents, and on this
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  Speaker 2: episode we got a little bit from Connor's mom, but
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  Speaker 2: I wish we got more of that. I wish we
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  Speaker 2: heard more from the parents about because what we learned
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  Speaker 2: on Born this Way is they will often say like
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  Speaker 2: what it was like for them to learn, Okay, my
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  Speaker 2: child has down syndrome, making the choice okay, we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: have this child or what's gonna happen next, and realizing
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  Speaker 2: like this was the greatest gift we thought this was
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  Speaker 2: going to be. We were so fearful their lives were
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  Speaker 2: going to be terrible and we were so and the
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  Speaker 2: minute we let go and recognize like how wonderful and
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  Speaker 2: amazing this is, it was totally different. So the parents
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  Speaker 2: are amazing and it's great to hear their stories and
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  Speaker 2: to see sort of how they're navigating like very adult
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  Speaker 2: things with their kids that are adults but have this,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a different kind of mind. So anyway, check
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  Speaker 2: it out. It's a great show.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to Yes, Yes, we did learn Connor on
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  Speaker 1: season three, his his mom and his brothers had like
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  Speaker 1: a very they were a lot more prevalent. And I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we're I've only washed up to season I'm sorry, I've
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  Speaker 1: only watched up to episode three of this new drop everyone,
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  Speaker 1: so you're listening to me. I haven't watched every episode
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  Speaker 1: yet all eight dropped. But we did get a lot
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  Speaker 1: of Connor's like mom talking about his journey thus far,
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  Speaker 1: and it would have been on the previous season and this,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this moment, we get a lot of her
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  Speaker 1: just kind of really giving what would be loving all
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  Speaker 1: you know, neuro typical advice that any mom would give
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  Speaker 1: a son about being clear with his heart and his
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  Speaker 1: intentions in a non threatening way so that he gets peace,
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  Speaker 1: you know, which to me was like great because we're
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  Speaker 1: going to meet Logan and you get to see people
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  Speaker 1: go on the journey of being confident and learning the
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  Speaker 1: skills of communication as they come up. And it's interesting
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  Speaker 1: because Connor, you know, it gets to be in a
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  Speaker 1: relationship and we were so happy to watch him, like
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  Speaker 1: meet Georgie, and now kind of like how James was
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  Speaker 1: with Shelley and now they're in the middle of their
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  Speaker 1: relationships and having kind of like the insecurity and doubts
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  Speaker 1: of like wondering what this is and everything and so
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  Speaker 1: and that's so obviously you know, universal, And at the
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  Speaker 1: same time, when we meet Logan, we're kind of like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's the journey's going to start again to someone who
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  Speaker 1: is really really scared, and we're going to watch him,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully like go on all the steps that we've been
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  Speaker 1: able to watch some of the other people go on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, who knew trains with faces was so relaxing,
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  Speaker 2: Thomas train.
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  Speaker 1: People love trains with faces. People love dolls, Broke, Are
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  Speaker 1: you a big doll lover?
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  Speaker 4: Well, my daughter, yeah, it kind of gave me some
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  Speaker 4: PTSD of seeing all those Barbies and American girl dolls.
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  Speaker 2: Because who was her favorite? Was she a Samantha?
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  Speaker 4: Come on, no, she didn't have Samantha her first one, well,
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  Speaker 4: she had Rebecca, I remember Rebecca Mia, and then they.
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  Speaker 2: One with a leg injury of the legs she was
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  Speaker 2: fascinated with.
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  Speaker 4: She wanted the wheelchair, the doll wheelchair, the doll cast
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  Speaker 4: and crutches.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she was fascinating.
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  Speaker 4: I was a little worried about what is this fixation
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  Speaker 4: with being injured? But she turned out okay. Yeah, yeah, you.
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  Speaker 1: Get a lot of attention when you're injured, you do too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was That was a lot that that girl, Madison.
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  Speaker 4: She had a lot of stuff, not just dolls, a
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  Speaker 4: lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Another thing, honey, they love. People love to collect. People
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  Speaker 1: have obsessions and like to collect things that you know.
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  Speaker 1: And here's the thing. When I say people, I mean me.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you can't see my apartment right now because
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  Speaker 1: I'm in a safe space in a safe corner. But
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  Speaker 1: my whole apartment is filled of collections, and so half
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  Speaker 1: of me watches this. I'm like, that's me. I have
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  Speaker 1: so many plays. I have so many plays. It's ridiculous,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like why did I buy so many? You know,
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  Speaker 1: I have so many paper back plays. But it's so interesting.
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  Speaker 1: There's so much of you had brought up tests that
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  Speaker 1: you didn't go to the prom and now we're listen,
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  Speaker 1: I'm making it now, we're gonna talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's okay. I hope you're okay. I've already had
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  Speaker 1: a documentary about it. We're going back to your school.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk to all the guys they should
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  Speaker 1: have asked you about or the girls. God bless you
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  Speaker 1: should have been asked out by everyone in your prom
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  Speaker 1: in your school. I also like was not popular, and
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  Speaker 1: you know I was. I was made fun of and
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  Speaker 1: I they we're going to get into a little bit later,
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  Speaker 1: like a middle school memory of one of the of
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  Speaker 1: one of the peeps, and I have almost an identical memory.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean when that moment happened, I was like, God,
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  Speaker 1: we are all the same. But let's get into some
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  Speaker 1: of the new people. So we're gonna meet Logan. Logan
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  Speaker 1: is twenty five and he's from Las Vegas. And upon
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  Speaker 1: first seeing Logan, thoughts are, the man is lovely serious, worried.
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  Speaker 1: His energy is like, yeah, like a worried, serious energy,
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  Speaker 1: which is, you know interesting. I think that kind of
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  Speaker 1: James has that kind of like a furried brow kind
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  Speaker 1: of feeling as opposed to Emma, you know, or like
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  Speaker 1: someone who was incredibly lighthearted. It's like it's the state
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  Speaker 1: in which I think that he operates from.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, well one thought I had was because I
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  Speaker 2: was sort of watching like what are the differences between
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  Speaker 2: Madison and Emma versus Logan Connor, Like, how do males
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  Speaker 2: and females respond to this different? You know, differently? But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you with Logan. And it's funny because
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  Speaker 2: he is very funny, and I think he knows he's funny,
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  Speaker 2: but he doesn't know how he's funny. So it's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit like he knows that and he and he's like,
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  Speaker 2: I think that's funny. I think that landed and then
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  Speaker 2: people laugh and he's like, oh okay, But he was
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  Speaker 2: just I found him. I found of anyone, he's the
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  Speaker 2: one that you can watch and see all of the thoughts,
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  Speaker 2: like from the beginning to the end, like this is
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  Speaker 2: where you started, this is where you ended up, maybe
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  Speaker 2: unlike anythink Madison's like that too, but Emma you can't,
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  Speaker 2: you know, she has lots of facial expressions, but it's different.
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  Speaker 2: So I found I found Logan to be I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he was that suit shopping I won't skip ahead, but.
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  Speaker 1: No, that no, it's you're so true, but it's so
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  Speaker 1: it's I do feel like the women, okay, the ways
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  Speaker 1: in which women have to move in this world, and
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  Speaker 1: it is interesting, right, and we're going to use the
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  Speaker 1: word like masking, or we're going to use the word like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, surviving. There are certain like enner that women
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  Speaker 1: use to be able to like, you know, I think survive,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, Emma, is like very giggily.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Not every woman that has like autism is this way.
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  Speaker 1: And for sure, you know, there's like, you know, so
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  Speaker 1: many beautiful different types. But it is like lovely to
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  Speaker 1: have a spectrum of people literally to discuss these things with. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so it's also funny because so many similarities. Now, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you saw this and this doesn't I
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  Speaker 1: don't think this happens on the show, but on TikTok
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  Speaker 1: Honey Madison No, sorry, yeah, I think it's Madison meets
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  Speaker 1: Hannah Montana. No, it's Abby. Abby met Hannah mont Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: Abby met Miley Cyrus. And she said to Miley, I
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  Speaker 1: always felt like Hannah Montana for a dual personality. And
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  Speaker 1: so when Logan says this as verbatim, I'm like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, I wonder how many kids were like that's me.
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  Speaker 1: I live a life you know like that you don't
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  Speaker 1: see and I have to like pretend to be this
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  Speaker 1: other person it's it is like for interesting, like a commonality.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Well and also if you think about superheroes,
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  Speaker 2: right like spider Man and Superman, right, like that's also there.
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  Speaker 2: There's two parts of me, there's two there's two different things,
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  Speaker 2: these two things competing. But yeah, I thought his his
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  Speaker 2: explanation of you know, Miley's like that. Hannah Montana was like,
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  Speaker 2: oh okay, yeah that makes complete sense, like you can
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  Speaker 2: hide here and you can be open here.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, Brooke, you have his ideal type. Brooke, you
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  Speaker 1: have what's called kirby straight hair. Your hair is your
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  Speaker 1: hair is straight, yet has bounce, it has curves.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't tell if he was saying curly straight hair. Yeah, yeah, same.
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  Speaker 1: So in episode one, I swear I heard curly straight,
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  Speaker 1: curly straight, and then later on after you know, later
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  Speaker 1: on I heard curvy straight. So I'm I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure or maybe he just uses both,
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  Speaker 1: but to me, my hair is curly to me. You know, Brooke,
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  Speaker 1: I think that you have kirvy straight hair.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, good, all right now you know yeah, now I
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  Speaker 4: can describe myself to people.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, things first, curvy straight hair second thing. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: I say like, yes, exactly, yes, but he's not dated no, no,
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  Speaker 1: same girl's name, but no, he hasn't dated that much.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I think that also a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people think that they're behind when you know, when everyone's
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  Speaker 1: kind of in the same boat. I don't lose my
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: here's my little thing. I don't lose my virginity until
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  Speaker 1: I was like twenty two out of college.
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  Speaker 2: And that's not I mean, I think that's the other thing.
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  Speaker 2: Just from my own experiences of working with so many people,
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  Speaker 2: I think people would be surprised how that it isn't
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  Speaker 2: that a lot of people don't have sex in high
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  Speaker 2: school or college, that it is after that, I think again,
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  Speaker 2: it's this is what I really enjoyed. This was like,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's kind of like my job. It's like I
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  Speaker 2: get to hear the silent parts. I get to hear
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  Speaker 2: like what's underneath all of that. And Yeah, you're absolutely
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  Speaker 2: right and and at its core right as human beings,
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  Speaker 2: we all just want the same things. We really do.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's not crazy.
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  Speaker 2: We all want, right, we all money money, say.
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  Speaker 4: No, health, money is better.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're older than you, maybe we're a little more cynical.
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  Speaker 2: I love appre jaded, but no, honestly, I mean what's
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  Speaker 2: most important to us is people is survival and acceptance,
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  Speaker 2: like because that's that's survival. So an acceptance is survival.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, in community kind of can be survival,
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  Speaker 1: especially if you know, if your family is you know,
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  Speaker 1: if family is one thing, but especially in kind of
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  Speaker 1: like modern especially Western culture, like making sure that you
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  Speaker 1: do have like community around you, I think is it.
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  Speaker 1: And it's so funny because you know, right now, it
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  Speaker 1: just feel like we are careading towards absolute robotic isolation.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but he has an incredible mom, an incredible sister,
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  Speaker 1: his twin sister that he lives with, and yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: get to we get to see him go suit shopping.
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  Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about this scene.
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  Speaker 1: Like, this scene is great for so many reasons, mostly
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  Speaker 1: because we get to watch him interact with lots of
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  Speaker 1: Like we don't get to just watch him interact with
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  Speaker 1: like a woman that he's gonna be with later, but
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  Speaker 1: like we get to watch him interact with like older men,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: and he seems to sort of like idealize certain people,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: like he he invites the lovely suit attendant, like people
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: get pizza like right away you know, he.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Sees a man in a suit, and I mean.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: It's like it would be like it's if I saw
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Sidney Crawford in the nineteen nineties, like at the mall
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I was, I'd be like, oh my god, I'll do
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: your tape, you know, like we just uh. He loves
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: blue and he he picks a cold balt blue suit.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Why would I say blue suit? Sure, a blue suit
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: that was so great on him.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: It's perfect for him. Yeah, was that velvet or that
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: was velvett. Yeah, you're right.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: He has performer energy, and it's it's like for him
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: to be attracted to that suit and look in the
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: mirror and then know that it looks that good. He
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: does have like a dry sense of humor that I
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: feel like if he could lean into being a.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Little less shy, being a little bit.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: More confident and they I can't want to talk to
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: you about something else, which is what he says at
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: the end of this. This is so universal. But if
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: he could lean into a little bit of those things
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: and he would feel better. And he says, I want
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: to be the person who decides what's best for me.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: M And I think that if you make those decisions
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: and you get to experience it being a good decision
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: that was the best for you. You gain the confidence to
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: continue to do so. I think it's like a secure
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: thing and everyone can do that, Like there's a I
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: think I suffer from indecisiveness, not to that different, but yeah,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: what is test? Do you have anything to say about
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: or book? You love children, so both of you can
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: really talk to about. You know, human behavior more than me,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: You've seen it happen all over the place. What's it
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: like like, either as a parent or you know, helping
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: someone who is learning to make decisions and yet insecure
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: at the same time.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: M hm, Brooke, Well, I think that you have to
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: be careful, like not to make the decision for them
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: or suggest a certain decision or suggests that something is best.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: You know, you have to give the pros and the
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: cons and let them come to their own conclusion because
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: because ultimately, if you tell kids do this, do that,
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: they're automatically not going to want to do it. So
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: it's got to be their idea. And I feel like
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: that's kind of like what Logan's mom and sister. You
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: can tell that that's what they've been doing with him,
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: and you see it in practice where they're going through
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: these different fears that he has and they're not saying, oh,
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: don't worry about it, you'll be fine. You know, they're
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: listening to him and being supportive of him. And you
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: could tell the way the sister talks to him and
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: treats him that you know, she's very protective of him,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: and she knows how to deal with him and when
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: to listen and when to say something. And I think
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: they have a beautiful relationship those Yeah, I.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Mean, I will say all of the parents, all of
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: the families are really lovely. Like that's the other part
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: of it too. It's like, and I don't I remember
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: season one everyone was really lovely, and so I don't.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I My guess would be as they probably have never
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: had a super dysfunctional we're not seeing like ninety days
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: stuff here. Like you know, it's that that every family
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: you know is really vary together and doing exactly what
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: you know what they need to be doing. It's a
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: lot of motivational interviewing, which is like, yeah, you're not
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: you're helping some you're kind of helping and guiding someone
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: and even in that you can kind of steer them
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: they just don't know you're steering them. You're just asking
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: questions and sort of presenting things and you know, asking
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: if if okay, so you want your life to look
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: like this, So what do you think you need to
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: do to have your life look like that? Like what
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: would that take or what would that be? And you
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: know it's so yeah, it it's like taking the long
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: way home. I say this to clients all the time,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: like and especially parents. I'm like, I get it, this
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: is the long ride. This is like, but over time,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: this will benefit you because you won't have to take
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: this long ride. And I think that's what we're seeing
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: with Logan and his family, which is just years of
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: them being verytient with him and really then knowing how
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: to do the shorthand.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Like day in and day work, right.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I think, yes, yes, And it's and it's hard. It's
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, it takes a tremendous I mean kids alone
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: take patience, but like this, I can't imagine the amount
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: of patients it really takes. Like you really have to
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: slow down and and not all parents are suited for
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: this or I think these parents figure out that that
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: I you know, that's the big thing with parenting is
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: you figure out like I can't I can't parent the
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: child that I want. I need to parent the child
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: that I have and parent them to the best to
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: help them thrive and love that person.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the real thing, because I feel like
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I own it.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I want to ask one question. Did it seem odd
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: to either of you that the guy selling suits wasn't
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: wearing a suit? Yeah? He was really bothered by that.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I was like, you don't even wear a suit to
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: this job.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: He was weird.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a little sense of humor, like yes,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: because Logan was actually trying to joke with him. He
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: just didn't pick it up.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, go out of business. And it was
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: a dollar buddy, all right, you're on. By the way,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: you're getting a free commercial. Like no one's going to
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: go in your like you know, three day suit broker place,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: like you know, treat Logan like a king for being
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: here with his film crew. I mean, what are you
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: talking about give this? First of all, the suit should
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: be for.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Free, Well I'm really shit. And also he just got
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: a jacket, Like a jacket and a tie. It doesn't
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: seem like a full We didn't see pants.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, we saw the pants that he decided to
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: wear with that outfit, and yeah, I wouldn't. I'm to
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: go on to go on the you know, I'm gonna
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: hot take. They didn't match, didn't seem like it was
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: a whole two pieces.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: But no, I'm thinking, did he get the full suit?
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: And are we going to see the full suit at
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: some point the blue jacket and blue pants or that's
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: going to be pimpin'. I can't wait for that.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I got fifty dollars. You know, maybe he would like
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: part of bargain. Just give me the It is the
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: star of the show with that, I.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, no, it is, it is. We can move on
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: to Emma. Why.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: It's because than you were saying about. Okay, so, because
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: we get this beautiful scene with so Emma as a
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: new person and we get to meet Emma.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I'm so happy.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: She's twenty, she's from Provo, and she's also LDS. Yes yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: yes yes yes, you know, quite different, quite different from
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: some of the other LDS people that had been in
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: the news recently. Tenson Brook, any thoughts on the other
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, are you worried that like Emma's waiting for
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the date, and that's Dakota that shows up.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine can you imagine if Dakota shows up
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: and I bet you anything, Emma's like, oh god, no,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I kind of think Emma would want to hang out
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: with him.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Like he's from a mile away. She's like he's bad news.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh my gosh, but yeah, this is this
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: The family was really interesting too, and yeah but.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so she she is living in a beautiful
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: like no. She goes to school and the schools for
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: like neuro diverg peeps, and she, like I said, is Mormon.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: And we get to hear and talk to her and
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: we get to meet her roommates. But her mom really says,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I think what you had pretty much said about five
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: minutes ago, which is that you learn that you have
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: to parent the child that you have, and not the
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: child that you thought you were going to have, or
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: that even the child that you thought was there at
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: six months or whatever, like ever changing person you have
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: to adapt to and the emotional maturity and intelligence to
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: be able to do that and like put your own
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: thoughts and feelings the energy of them in such a
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: way that people that you can be there for someone
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, that is a crazy you know,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: like patting your head and touching your tommy at the
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: same time. I don't think I can do it.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's really it's it's challenging for sure.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: But I mean, and again I think that that's the
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: other part of it too, is no matter my son
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: has a lot of anxiety and depression and all that,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: and you know there's that other part. It's like, well,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: that's just how it is, you know what I mean,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: you just have to accept, like this is who he is,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: this is how it's going to be, this is how
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I need to speak. But I think what's so interesting
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: is if you if you take this another level, looking
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: at all this the parents, right, we all go into
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: things thinking I don't want to be judgmental. I don't
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: want to you know, it was so painful when I
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: felt judged in middle school, so I don't want to
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: be judge And then you have a child and then
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: you see that they're not quote unquote cool or this
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: or that, and then you start to judge them because right,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: and it's I think it was I think that's really
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: what she was saying was just this realization of like,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: what am I doing here? I'm just I'm I'm doing
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: what the world but what I fear the world's doing.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: I'm being the biggest.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Judger here, So micro correcting. It's like a micro controlling
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Michael micro correcting. I mean, they're God bless some, you know,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: God fearing peeps, so it seems to me they're probably
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: spending time in church. And yeah, EMA's mom talks about
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: how Emma would probab be a little loud or chatty
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: or excited, and she would just have to she just
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: found herself constantly shushing her, constantly diminishing her in some way,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: constantly telling her what she's doing. Her natural expression is
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: not good, not its stop stop stop stop, and exactly
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: like you said, like I wasn't cool growing up, you know,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: And so then I know that if I gave birth
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: to a mini me that was like super loud and like,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: you know, like very reactive, you know, I'd be like,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: you're cool, like take it down a notch, buddy, you know,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: just like but at the same time, you know, who
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: are what rules are you enforcing, like the same ones
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: that like kind of stole your spirit at some point.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: It's such a yeah, just work tests when you're like
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: not own, when you do something as someone else that
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: like the abuser did to you, God bless it, Stockholm syndrome.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: No, that's not yeah or yeah, no, no, that's not
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: stop Stockholm. That's more of like like you start to
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: love your captor. So I don't know what we'll do
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: it to other cult people. I know that's not a yeah,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I guess you know cults, culteat stuff, cultea stuff. Yeah, no,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. Was I the only one that was like,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: how much money do you think that school is?
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Like millions? Oh, they have so much money. The Mormons,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: God bless and the scientologists can buy it in the
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: if you I mean, this whole world could be just
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: like bought by Catholicism, Mormons, and Scientology.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess they have tons of money. I was like,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: is this the state is running this? Because she's twenty two, so,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, and this looks like a nice facility and
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: those are hard to find. And I was just like,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I cannot imagine how much this is like a private Yeah,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: like the most ultra private school. Yeah, it's probably two
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars a year. Because she lives there, she
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: has roommates, you know, yeah, yeah, but it's like like
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: what you know, and so I think again, we're seeing
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: like the best of what it can be like when
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: you are when you have good when your parents are
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: with you, when you have good parents, when you're going
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: somewhere where you feel seen and accepted, like this is
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: this is why Emma is so sure of herself and
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: be like this is Austin's loser. Yeah, yeah, we'll talk
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: about that later.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: No, I know, God bless Emma. Yeah, I'm not Abby.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Madison's parents come from money. Connor too, and this has
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: been talked about off for the seasons as well. That
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: is something that is interesting. Yes, people have a lot
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: of access, and you can tell that people had access
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: early on to education, to the help, so that when
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: we're seeing parents talk to their kids now, it's because
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: they had you know, professionals early on in the process.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: And it's not always available and accessible to everyone that
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: has autism. And it's actually one of the parts that's
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: probably the only part of the show that I could say,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: you know, I wish that you could would show and
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: or give assistance to the people that aren't being able
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: to do this. You know, a lot of people, some
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: other people on the show, sorry, some people off on
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: the streets, Honey, also think that the show could be exploitive.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Some people feel like the show is exploitive just for
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: the pure act that we're watching these lovely people live
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: on camera, and like what their ability to know and
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: consent of everything is.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Mmmmm, Okay, yeah, I can see that. I understand that one.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: But well, at the same time, it exposes us. Go on, Sorry,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I was going to say.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: I was reading a New York Times article about Abby's
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: mother and it was kind of about the evolution of
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: the show. And at first Abby's mother was very against
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: it and didn't want to do it, and she said,
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: the more she thought about it, She's like, well, why, Amy,
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: why am I hiding my daughter away? Why wouldn't I
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: want people to see that, you know, this is what
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: autism looks like. And I'm proud of her, and you know,
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: I want people to see it, normalize it and show
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: And another thing that's I think this show does a
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: good job with is showing that, you know, everyone is
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: a sexual person. Everybody wants to be loved and wants
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: affection and intimacy and all that kind of stuff, and
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: we shouldn't feel uncomfortable about it just because.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: You know, these people are on the spectrum.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: And so I think that you know, the show, yeah,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: it's really trying to It's they're trying to say, we're
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: not trying to be exploitive. We're trying to show normalize,
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: you know, normalizing seeing people like this and talking to them.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: As someone who watches None of a Fiance and other shows,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: you know, and same, I can I know that you
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: guys watch other shows too. It's it's it's you know,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: when you're watching a show and you're judging people like
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: What is she doing?
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Like I know, was she wearing or like, you know,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: like she's does me. There's so many, you know, things
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: you can say about people on Love Island, people on
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Love is Blind, people on the batcherette, people on Fiance.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: It's interesting because when I watch the show, I don't
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: feel like judgment like that. I really watch the show
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, shit, me too, shit the whole money,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, me too, you know, like and and
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: so there's something like so I there's something so I
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: guess the reason why I love theater or theory about
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: it because like these human stories don't feel like they're
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: put on display to like poke and make fun of
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: or like kind of whatever entertain us as much as
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: it's to inform us of the like basic like you said, Brooke,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: human desires to experience love, to in that I mean
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: across the board, but to experience love and intimacy, and
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: to feel seen and to be sat with, to be
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: like valued and cherished for who you are.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's I think that that just to speak
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: to this idea of like, what is it about the show.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: It's like I think when we watch, I don't know
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: how much you cover. You don't cover any housewives?
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: No, I I do know what that is.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean, but it could be also secret
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: lives of Mormon wives, like the same thing, where with
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: these people it's like they're coming out saying I was
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: hurt before and now I'm getting into this relationship and
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: I love you so much and I'm so happy to
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: be here. And it's versus what we see a lot of,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: which is just bravado and putting on airs and right,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: that's what makes them so unique and special to watch
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: because it's like, how can you not someone is showing
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: you their most vulnerable self in a very real way
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: and all you know, so, how can you not want
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: to watch that? And ambient it versus what we see
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: with these like these other shows. I think it's Mormon
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Wives doesn't have as much as Housewives. But the thing
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: with Housewives is that it's just it's all performative. It's
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: all like, this is my house, and half the time
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: you're thinking, do you really own that house? Do you
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: really like? So it's so you don't know what's real
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: or not real. But with with Logan, I know it's real.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Like if Logan said I'm enjoying talking to you, I
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: know that he's enjoying talking to me.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, and he says I'm feeling shy. Shit,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: he's feeling shy.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: But yeah, let's so with Emma, you know she she
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: we love Emma a lot. She is adorable, she loves TV,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: she loves she does really good voice.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: Yesactly, she's good her Disney voice, yes greatcellent.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Donald Duck. I mean, I'm Hulu should get her number
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: because they need people all the time. She doesn't really good.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, her mickey mouth's not bad either. Yeah, No, she's good.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I love her roommates. I love what they say about her.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: It's not hard to smile when she's around. Yeah, we
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: see that like it's it's and it's funny because she's
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: giggling and we're seeing, like, you know, an incredibly happy person.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: And at the same time she is so I could cry.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: She's so very uh well, she's so very direct with
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: how loneliness plagues her. I mean well, and she talks
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: about it, you know, in the season. I'm sorry in
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: episode one and I can't wait to talk about it later.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: But she really wants intimacy, you know. But she also
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: comes from a heavily in doc donated faith that wants,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: you know, no sex before marriage. And then you know,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: we know that people be marrying super young, you know,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: and to also not be able to do you know.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: It's just there's there's so much to unpack. Also with
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: that her family is obviously varying the church. They have
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: a lego temple.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Oh I didn't clock that. Oh oh oh oh, with.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: A little broom with black hair. I was like, who
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: has black hair in this family? That's what I think
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: that Definitely. The school she goes to is paid five more.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I paid for by the church, like they're just I
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: have I just assume it from top to bottom, just
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: how a nice it looked and how I feel how
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the students kind of did give a similar vibe. Yeah,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: it didn't seem like they were bringing in people of different.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah face yeah, oh yeah, with different fates. I thought
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: you meant because it's neurodivergent. But I'm like, okay, where
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, it seems like everyone's on the spectrum, so
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: no one. You know, there's aphasia, there's there's lots of
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: NeuroD you know adhd, you know phacia. No, no, I'm
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: thinking of praxia apraxia, which is also another one that
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: seems like autism, but it's not. It's it's slow, slow speech,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: but highly intelligent slow speech something like that. But so
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know it. But yeah, the more I think
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: about it, the more I'm like, I think I'm with you.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I think I think the church is paying for the
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: place because it's it's pretty amazing. But the other thing
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: that I was wondering about Emma, I was thinking, knowing
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: that she's twenty two, it's a little bit like, does
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: she feel like she's behind because all of her friends
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: who or maybe not at the school, but I would think, right,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: how old does the average woman get married?
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: We know Mikayla got pregnated at sixteen?
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Oh Jace did not you know? He was twenty one? Boy?
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Did you know?
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Why do I know so much about people?
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Do you think they all know?
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Like? Do you?
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: It's and she's in provo, so yt see how concentrated
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: is all of the Mormons we know? Like, is her
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: older cousins friends with the Mormon wives? No, it's possible,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: It is possible. The named cam Cam, Yes, yes, has
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: has Cam dated like Layla? You know what I'm saying, like,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: probably I love him a lot. Yeah, we're let's talk
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: about her day, honey. And this is a great, great
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: example of you need to kiss a lot of frogs.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: And she, you know, she has an interesting taste in men.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: She was like, I was really into Tom Cruise, Tom Hanks,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Jim Carrey. We're like, okay, okay. And then she gets
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: to her date. First of all, her date is Austin.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: He loves cow pasture smells, and I was like.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was like, does does he know what
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: a cow pasture is? You didn't want to same anure.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah probably, and he also saying he hates the sound
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: of the auctioneers and.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: That's why very specific, you know. But then I was thinking,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: are there are her voices bothering him? Like? Because I
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: kept thinking does this sound like an auctioneer? Is this
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: why he has this weird reaction.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: To Maybe she's too fast, she talks too fast or something.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, maybe that's it.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: When Tyler of Madison and Tyler, when we first met,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: he's an auctioneer and he gave us a little auctioneer voice. Oh,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: it's just interesting. He compliments her hair, there's like awkward silences.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: She loves performing acting and sees singing. He's like cool,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I did one play once, never again.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: M hmm. Well, when I first saw Austin, I was like, oh,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: he's cute. He's cute. But his lack of reaction to
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: her voices. And there's a point at which, oh that
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I said, Emma got the ick and it was building
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: the snowman. Yep, I think it was there.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: She was there.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: She was there, a snowman way down. By the time
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: they got into that that glass cage, she was out.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Oh you do okay, okay, wait broke I want to
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: hear you gonna say, oh, I.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: Just said she was. She said it was time to go,
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: ready to go after the Snowman.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, So what had happened was she was like, you,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I love Disney, so do you want to build a snowman?
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: And he was like.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, And so at first I was like, not that,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: that's not even the moment though, then they decided to
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: build a snowman. Then he he's like, I'm gonna put
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: this extra a little bit here, and she's just so
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: the hat sits on there and she's.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Like, I get the point.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Nothing doesn't have Yeah, and he doesn't, and she's like,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I'll do it again round two. I got the point
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: and he gave her nothing. And it's like that is
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: to me test Like the very moment, I was like,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: oh no. And it was interesting because I saw him
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: kind of do this a little bit like especially with
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: the play thing before, it is that he has a
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: tendency to be a little negative, right, a little bit
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: a little negative. Yeah, and you saw her deflate.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Well and just the I thought it was more of
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: the snowman. I didn't. I do remember that sharp thing
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: in him not getting that. But I think it was
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: like at one point I just saw her look at
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: him fall into the snow again, and it's a little
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: bit like aren't you from Utah? Like don't you I mean,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: I can understand problem. Well, he was makes such a
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: problem with the snow, Like don't you have shoes with traction?
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I can understand if one of us showed up, yeah,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: with our flip flops, like hey, you know, Rainbow's just
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: getting stuck in the sand. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But it's
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: it's a little bit of like, you're from here, you
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: should you should have better shoes. And so the fact
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: that he kept slipping, and I think she was just
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: like what the you know, like, what's wrong with you?
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: So she didn't like.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: That truly, and then she unfortunately had to do something
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: that I would have loved to do. They go to
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: stein Erickson Lodge, which I hate to say, is the boogiest,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: one of the boogiest places in the entire world. It's
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: in Deer Valley, like Deer Valley, you know, the Deer
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Valley Mountain, like not even Park City. You can't even
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: snowboard there. They're so bougie. There's like the Saint Regis
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Honey and there's like you know whatever, there's there's like
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: three fancy hotels. Diane Erickson Lodge is like by far
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: the cutest and the coolest. I was like, oh my god.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: They go into an igloo. I mean they get yummy
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: ass food. She gets chili, you know what tastes good?
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: He gets salmon mm hmm brook.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: It's like a basic fish. Well.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Also, I guess they're not going to be kissing later hmm.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: He smells the smallt smalt and pepper shakers, and that
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: was also a little thing where she was like, you
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: don't think I don't think any I don't think you
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: need to smell them.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's a little bit like no, duh, salt
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: and pepper. You know you've never had it before? Yeah,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: why is he smelling it?
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: But that also they don't like one is black and
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: one is yes, yes, it isn't like sugar and salt.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's go back to this hotel because I
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: do remember seeing this place going this is gorgeous, like
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: where what is happening? Is this where they live? This
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: is I mean I've never been to Utah. It looks stunning,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: so this is all and I just don't know it
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: that well, so this is all this, This is all
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Deer Valley, This is Okay City, this is park City.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Okay City is the actual town or whatever, and Deer
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Valley is Deer Valleys the mountain, got it, okay, like
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: or the s resort and like their thing is first
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: of all, that's where when it happened.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, yes, okay, so there it is. Yes, yes, yes,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: the crossover, yes, yes, yes, yes, I need you to
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: know that that is what it is. Okay, thank god,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: thank god I said it.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: I have a thing for bougie things. I don't know why.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: I wish I wish I wasn't this way. It's like
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: one of my worst faults.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, but anyway, they don't get to enjoy the most
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: beautiful place. She says, she really wants a guy that
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: has a sense of humor and is good at conversations.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: And then she leaves. She really just stops talking and
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: looks at looks at him, and he's like, oh, yeah,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: me too, of course, no, yep, that's what's happening all here,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: and she's like.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well and then he said the same thing that
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I was singing thinking. He was like, oh, she just
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: friend zoned him and then he walks away and he's like,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: I was friend zoned. I've been friend zoned before. And
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, Austin, I think you have. I think
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: you have been friend zoned before. And maybe I don't know.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with Austin. There's the right person for
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: him out there, but it's not Emma. This guy would.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: This guy would. He seems too self conscious and to
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: there's something right. He doesn't have her free spirit so.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: And he looks like her dad to her, which I
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: didn't see.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Nancy, I think also was the point where
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: she was like, Mick, Yeah, that was the ick.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: You either do You either do two things. You either
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: date someone who looks like your parent and you don't know,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: or you know and you never say anything, or the
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: minute that you figure that out, you can't date that person.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's how I feel about it. Yeah, I
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: don't know if I've ever I've never dated anyone that
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: looked like our fathers, So I don't know, I don't know,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, no, I know what you're
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: talking about. The dad's kind of though. I thought the
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: dad was a little milk toast too.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: I was just like, well he's the healthiest, and yes,
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: dad clean living, you know, oh yeah, clear broke in
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: and no, that's true.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Just swigging every night, sweet.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Big old cups with big old cups of sugary goodness.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Have you ever oh even I think you just said
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: you've never been to Utah?
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Have either of you? Brook?
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Have you ever been to Utah? I ever had a swig?
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: I haven't. I have not.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: But my daughter went over the was it some last
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: summer or something, and every day she would go to
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: swig and get the same order. It was like a
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: diet doctor pepper with some kind of raspberry foam and lime. Oh,
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: that was her drink every day. That's and she never
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: drinks soda. She'd never drink a diet doctor pepper. But
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: that's what you do when.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: You're there's what's the place that's out here? We do
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: have some version of this out here? What's that place? Though?
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Dutch brothers, Dutch.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Brothers and soda? I thought it was First of all,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: there's not a lot either in La. I know there's
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: some like on the outskirts. I thought it was coffee.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: Is they have coffee and then they have it's like
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: soda flavored soda water. You can get different flavors, and
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: then you can add boba and different syrups and the
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: whole you can make sugary concoction.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I always feel like, oh, this must be
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: what it's like at Swig, but maybe not quite maybe
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: not Yeah, I mean Swig and Taco Bell.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I mean this. Yeah, one thing the show does good
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: and they've done it like consistently throughout the seasons, and
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I think that also then it's like a subtle way,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: I swear to God where I'm like, you're also teaching us,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: aren't you, which is to cleanly end communication wise a
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: date without with with being able to express how you
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: feel without thinking that it's going to do intense harm
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: to the other person, as well as protecting your piece,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: because like I mean, I hear, I know because I've
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: dealt with insecurity and like what you know as a female,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I know that I've given my number to men who
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to give my numbers, stuff like dumb things.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I wish I could just go back and be like,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not interested in you like that, thank you so
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: much that she was like that was I don't know
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: how to I can't do it, like I'm having issues
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: You didn't give him the wrong number?
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Why I used to be a rejection number, but I
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: remember I had on my like I used to know
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: this like rejection hotline number all to be like you
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: didn't rejected, which to me sounds like the most nineties thing.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: It's like, oh my goodness. Yeah.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: But just to be able to cleanly be like, thank
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: you for your time. It was lovely talking to you.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: It's not a match. That was harder everyone.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was proud of her for that easy to do.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: No, I give I give them, I mean I give
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: them credit for that. And her saying because obviously, like
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: in the past, right, what would you have done? I
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: would have been like, yeah, sure, okay, yeah, and then
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: you just ignore their calls. You kind of dodge it
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: or you or if someone wants your number, you kind
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: of like give them some random number or something like.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: I think that I talk a lot about the generations,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: and I love to talk about this stuff, and I
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: always say that this younger generation, I mean, they're really
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: doing it right. Like we were so concerned about hurting
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: someone's feelings, about doing that and not realizing that, you know,
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: what hurts someone's feelings telling them yes, I want to
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: go out with you again and then never hearing from you.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: You know, that's what hurts people's feelings. It's not that
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: one moment of being like, I just don't I don't
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: feel this.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so respectful of someone's yeah, time and energy. Yeah,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: to be like upfront and like honest with them. It's like, A,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: I don't waste your time, and also B, I trust
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: that you're like a whole functioning person that can handle
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: me telling you.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: That I you know, I'm not interested sexually.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's you know, God, like I swear to God,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, thank you, thank you. Love. On the spectrum,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I got ghosted earlier this year by
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: someone I've gone on three dates with.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: I keep talking about it. I'm so mad. Why can't
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: you just the Were they really good dates? Was it
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: like I was shocked? Or do you what did the
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: date start to go downhill? Such a good question.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Of course, in the moment, I was like, I like
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: this person, I say, we you know what.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: They were?
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: They were?
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: I thought they were like okay, But what had happened
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: was after the third date, we finally talked about real things,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: and I didn't. I guess pick up in the fact
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: that that scared the ship out of that person. When
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: I that's a third date, I can ask you, like
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: what you're interested in, like what you want you know.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it doesn't seem like a crazy question.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's hard to be it's
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: hard for people to talk about what they want truly
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: like and whether they even want to admit what they want.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: M it's scary to want love in your life. It's
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: scary to be like, I want to be in a relationship.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. I think that's scary. And then there's also
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of people out there, and I've heard this
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: from my clients. I'm constantly amazed where you know you
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: you're scrolling, scrolling, scrolling that you have said I only
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: want to date people who want to be in a
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: serious relationship. This person showed up in that algorithm, they
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: went out with them, Yes, I want to be in
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: a serious relationship, and somewhere after they've had sex, doesn't
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: want to be in a serious relationship anymore, or doesn't
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: or after they've hung out a few times, Like I do,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: think there are people that are miscategorizing themselves. So I think, right,
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: there's two parts. There are people that you feel like
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: you were you were, you said this is what you wanted,
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: and but we take that personally it's like oh no,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: like this is you, this is you and your stuff
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: and you know, but themselves, yeah they do, they really do, all.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Right, broke anything about lying, well, I don't like it.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Hot take Yeah, anti lying not goods lying.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: No, it's shitty and that's you know. And again, like
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing to watch people just like open
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: and honestly live their lives and be unabatted about it
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: as proud as they are, like as as as like
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: comfortable as they are being like I'm on the spectrum.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: This is it and I'm happy about it. Like it's
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: just the way that all we should all live our
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: lives being accepting of where we are and who we are.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, absolutely, yeah.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: There might there might be things we want to change
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: within our like situations. Maybe we feel like we can
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: get better or perhaps we can align ourselves to our
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: own values if we've like you know, drifted. But to
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: be ten toes down and know yourself is like such
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: a gift and it's interesting how some people have that
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: gift and some people struggle for the rest of our lives,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: you know, their whole lives that are or ootypical where
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: the hell is Yeah?
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Well, and also right, I think Emma telling him, friend
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: zoning him. I think also is it's giving because I
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: think another thing that people do, especially women, we are like,
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: well he's here, you know, you know, there's that feeling
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: of right now, yeah, yeah, he's here, he's interested. Maybe
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: I go on another date, maybe I do this or that,
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: and I do. I think that I see this a
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: lot with my you know, especially female clients, where it's
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: like you trust your instincts, like trust the fact that
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: you don't see this personing in like why do you
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: have to keep doing this dance just to reaffirm something
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: that you that you know? And that comes back to
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: that that knowing, And that's hard. That's hard because you
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: are trusting something that has not come yet. You are
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: trusting that there's something else better out there that I
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: know there's someone, and that's very hard someone right here.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially you know, there's so many different voices like oh,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: you know, your expectations are too high, or you know,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: so many things that you can think of in the moment,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: they can throw you off of what is happening, like
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: moment by moment to be present with someone and it
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: can really cloud your judgment. I know of Yeah, I
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: mean I deal with I deal with that too. But
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: at the same time, it's because I also know that
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: sometimes I don't have a great mind body connection and
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: that if I could just sit with myself somatically and
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: they're like, wow, am I actually feeling like what? What
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: a what's my energy with someone?
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Like? How easy is this communication?
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: And it's also interesting because we literally are going to
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: see people who you know start talking and it's kind
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: of awkward at first, and then the moment that they
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: can just vibe or they can just find the thing
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: that connects them, like you see people change. Emma's gonna
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: do that on her second date. But I want to
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: move on to James. James is an old favorite, honey,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: and he is happy to be back with his friends.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, James, I remember because I remember being there from
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: the beginning.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, he likes he went to the Renaissance fair.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bo.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: James and Connor have like a grandiose a love of
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: the theatrical, historical.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Olden times is how yes, yes, yes, yes, James is intense.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, James to me has gotten more intense. And I
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: wanted to, okay, this is it's interesting. This is okay.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Connor and him again are now in the middle of
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: a relationship that they and they really have connected with
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: the people that they're with, and it does feel like
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: both people are in You're dealing with like some insecure attachment.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, what was it, Georgie. I'm like, oh,
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Georgie's a little avoidant. It's like, oh interesting, And I
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, I couldn't. I mean, Shelley, we don't
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: see that long, so it's hard to get a real
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: beat on her. I don't know what she was like
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: flxed by her by Shelley. Yeah, doesn't she seem it almost.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: Okay, first of all, they since she's like thirty one
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: or something, but she looks much older and she and
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: she is she from this it looks like a ninety
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: day situation or you know, I'm serious, like she had
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: an accent.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I thought of some kind.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: You're not talking about you're not talking about logan state.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: No, she don't, No, I know that's so that lovely
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: lady is maybe from like it seems Eastern e Shelly
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: is from like sounds.
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: Like okay, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah yeah. I had
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: a lot of questions about Shelley. But she doesn't say anything.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: And James doesn't ever stop talking enough to talk about here.
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, he just his poor parents, I mean they
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: God bless them, but he never stops talking and they
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: just have to like stand there and listen to him.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Honestly, when he first came on the screen, I was like, oh,
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: this guy, he's given me Cody Brown vibes. Did he
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: reminds you a little of Cody Brown?
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: It's interesting they both have the exact like, you know,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: it's not it's not kirty straight hair, it's it's a
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: certain kind of ram and hair. To me, this is
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: what happened. So James James, on his TikTok and his
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: like presence is an incredibly progressive feminist, like who that's
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: who he is. He he diatribes on TikTok about like
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: the state of for women and how like he'll talk
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: about it and he you know, like how marriage is weird,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: how the woman da da da. But he talks a
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: lot about like the injustice of this world for women,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: and he did a lot before. To me, he seems
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: on edge in more this season. Like in the past seasons,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: him and his father like joke back and forth.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: They give you like they.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Rip each other, and it's it's like they're like a
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: little vaudeville team, you know, like it's constant, like like
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: a back and forth of likeness. And that hasn't happened
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: yet in the three episodes. It does feel like he
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: is on a different level of like nervousness and panic
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: that he is talking so much. I mean, like at
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: the same time, I'm also like hean are you editing
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: it this way? Or is this is this like James's
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: new energy? I can't quite tell, you know, but.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: But do you think this has got to do with
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: right now being in this relationship, he got the thing
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: that he wants. Now he's in this relationship, it's getting
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: more serious. Do you think like that because the poem,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's the second episode, but like
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: you know, he's, yeah, he's full of anxiety.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: I think that, Yes, I think that I think that
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: the situation was is that it's you know, when you are. Yeah,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: I think that it's easy to be when you are
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: sat in being single and when you know, like that
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: is like your status quo and your mo but you
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: have but you do want to be in a relationship
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: and you get a taste of something that feels like
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: the thing that you wanted. It seems to me that
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: he is almost like is it Lenny of Mice and Men? Oh,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: it seems like he is I know, intense reference. Sorry,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: it seems like he is holding on to to like
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: a little birdie, you know, and wants and you have
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: to kind of loosen your grip. I see him kind
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: of like squeezing the fuck out her.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but just a good way to put it,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: does Shelley. But I don't get this. I don't get
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: the silent. I don't thin get the sense. Sorry, I
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: don't get the sense that Shelley minds, do you know
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: what I mean? And maybe that's and maybe there's more
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: that we have to see, but she'd yeah, that his
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: personality is so big that it's kind of like, of
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: course you have to be with someone like this because
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: how else is this gonna work?
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: But then yet you're right, you said it, like we
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: don't know enough about Shelley because we never see in
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: the past seasons and we never get to see Shelley's
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: like parents talk and people talk about her, and truly
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: she might be like I literally don't want to ever talk.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: It's so nice to be with someone who can just
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: fucking take the reins on that, or god bless, is
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: she someone who is like I don't know how to
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: assert myself and I don't know, I don't feel comfortable
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: expressing myself yet, And is this comfortable for her now?
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: And yet at some point would be stifling?
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Well, and do you think that his his
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: stance online sort of goes against sort of what you're
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: seeing here, Like here he's pro women and women having
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: voices and speaking, but you're the woman that you are
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: in love with, you don't even allow to finish the sentence.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: Or no, that's the patriarchal world we live in. That Yeah,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know, what a great point, Tess, But
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: he's so nervous that, like you know, I think that
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: also there's a thing where he's literally filling the time
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: with his voice, like he studies heard He's like I'm
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: looking at your face, like he's saying his welt. I'm
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: looking at your face right now. I'm justudging how you're feeling,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: and it seems like you're feeling fine. Like those are
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: literal thoughts. And if you and if you were looking
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: at someone and having those thoughts, you know, if you weren't,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: you would have to like somehow turn your mind. I
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: don't know, you would have to like be like, okay,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: two things. I'm sorry cause can't finish a sense. If
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: he's saying that he's doing that, can he actually be
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: talking and doing it really at the same time, or
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: do you think that he's Do you think that he's
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: like willing himself to see what he wants?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I think it's I see it. I don't
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: know what your take was, Brooke, but I see it
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: more as he is all of us. We just see
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: someone's face and it's instant we know are they happy
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: or they're not happy. I think for him it's like
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: first time skiing. It's it's you know, all these things
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: that are second nature to many of us are not
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: second nature to him, and so I think for him
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: it's like almost when you're doing something new, like put
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: the pot over here. Okay, now I'm gonna put this
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: over here. I think it's very much like, Okay, I
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: need to I need to read your face. I need
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: to read your face and make sure that you're you know,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: so I think he can. I think you can do it.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: At the same time, I just think that it's just
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: it's hard. It's and you see it, especially with Logan
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: and some of them in real time, of oh this
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: is this is this is challenging, like you have a
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: lot to think about. Yeah, yeah, you know. I don't
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: know what to say about him. I'm really.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: I find him really difficult to watch, honestly, So you
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: and James wouldn't work out, No, I don't think so.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: I think I would feel comfortable telling him after the
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: first day that this is I'll see each other again.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: He is a lot.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: I mean he is. I mean of all the men
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: that we met, I mean I would pick Connor, I
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: would pick Logan over him, but I would pick you know,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Connor or Logan first. You know, I think there's a
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: lot because I think you know what it is. There's
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: a lot of intensity, and there's a little charm, but
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: not as much charm as Logan, do you know what
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: I mean? Logan has a lot of charm. I feel
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: like you.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Saw him in the ren Ferry. I mean, you know
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: he was he was chill back then, like you.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, compared to now.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's been a change, right, Yeah. Something is wrong,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: something is really wrong. It's like he's he's like it's
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: like bubbling up and simmering and bubbling. It's like right
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: here and something is going to explode.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: And it's hard to really I felt very anxious watching him.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: He because he was he would get kind of angry,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: like if someone tried to interject and say something, he'd
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: be like, what, I'm not finished talking?
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: And I don't know what's going on with him? But
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: something has changed hmm. Love has changed him. Well are
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: you gonna do the better? Do you think that, like.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, what if?
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: What I mean?
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: I think that I think that there's a situation where
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Shelley might be playing nice and maybe like energetically he
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: does pick up on the fact that she's uncomfortable and
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: that she's not saying something that like she like that,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: and that she's kind of like one foot out the door.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Like I wonder if there is a.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Part of him that feels that, and it's like what
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: we're seeing because she's not she of course doesn't talk
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: a lot, but like she's also not super warm or
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: affectionate or in a way in which I wouldn't be
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: sure that she's into him.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: Mmmmm, No, that's a really good point. I didn't even
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: think about that. That might be what's happening. He's he's
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: picking up on what's happening unconsciously that and that's what
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: he's reacting to. It is possible, it is. I don't know.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: I wish I knew more about Shelley and get into
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: her backstory. I'm I'm yeah, Shelley blink, you know.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: Need help.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: He says, you know, a marriage is putting someone's happiness
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: before his, And I'm like, well, we have to find out,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: like what her voice sounds like to even say the
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: word happiness.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's also for some reason episode one and if
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: you saw this, a lot of feet shots about him,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: Well why was that camera man? Yeah, focused on him
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: like you know dancing in those sandals. Yes, there was
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: a logan too, right, there's a lot of like feet like.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember James is a lot because we saw
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: the t vos the tiva ti vos. I'm old the tivas?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Is that what it was? I had these back in
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: the nineties.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, yeah. First of all, I remember tvo as
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: being the first d Yes I were talking about that.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: I was like, girl, I remember that, but no the TV.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: But I mentioned Rainbows, which is like the most Orange
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: County nineties flip flop of time and space.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: So please on the same page. Yeah, so I was like,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: what is this all about? But maybe I don't know,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: maybe they got they got a new camera man who's
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: got a foot.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Fet Twinton he works on. The last thing was pulp fiction. Yeah,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: he it were you know, we're well, you know, he
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: just was so happy to meet someone who.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Hated pets and hated kids.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: And yes, he was like once he found someone who
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: was like, no kids, no pets, he was like, he
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: really wanted to put a ring on it. And there
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: has been enough like due diligence about whether this person
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: is for.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Him or not. Yeah, oh, you're right.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Let's move on to Connor though. Connor, we remember twenty
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: six from Florida. You know, also Swordsman honey, you know, like,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: oh yes, Washbuckler at heart, you know, like he's three
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: three Musketeers.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: He yeah, he is still absolutely into trivia, into stating facts,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: has like the most you know, adorable speech pattern of where,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: you know, unlike other people, he seems to like pause
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: sometimes in mid sentence, almost from a place of like doubt,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: and then carries on, I mean, I mean, I don't
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know anything about what I'm talking about.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: No, I just know you're probably right. I'm just thinking
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: about it. What I thought was hilarious was because this
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: is something my son would have said, like when he
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: was a kid. He's like, oh, I got to remember
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: to bring up dire wolves on our date. You know why,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: what is dire wolf? I don't know what dire wolves are.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, what the fuck I'll tell you.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: Thank goodness, Okay, I'm so.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Sorry, but dire wolves are like this wolf. That what
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: happened was, and he says it later, is that, yeah,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: they're like they you know, brought them back.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: They just look like snow wolves.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know, they kind of look like, you know,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: it's not Game of Thrones because like those things were scary.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: It's just a white ass wolf.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: That looks a little Game of Thrones. E's m and
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: so they recreated them just like Jurassic Park, I guess
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: or whatever. And you know because of like their ancient lore,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Like he loves a Nordic He's like a big Nordic
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: lore person, just like how the LDS.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: Is connection, you know, like Cody Brown.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Honey, if we can about how Cody Brown's whole family
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: you know, like you know, live and die by the
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Viking Creed.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, they love it.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: Anyway, So we're back at his his mom's house with
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: the step dad. He has his brothers living there, and
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: those sheets are still running about, and yeah, he is
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: going on a tea date with Georgie and he feels
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: like Georgie is pulling away. And we learned that they've
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: had group dates. Yeah they really haven't. It's been seven months.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: And it's interesting because we get to also see like
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: the evolution of the relationship between O, Maddie and Tyler,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: you know, and it's you know, it's they spend You
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: can really see how connected they are, you know, how
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: different it feels very different. Seven months is like an
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: interesting amount of time. We just talk about seven months
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: in dating.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: Because that's a pretty much I mean I think seven
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: month bitch. Yeah, But I think also there's some there there, right,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Like you've been together long enough that there should be
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: some sort of sense of what direction are we going in.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: I mean again, I always tell people don't commit to
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: anything until a year. You got to see someone in
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: all four seasons, but that I do think that seven
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: months is this point of of like, either I'm going
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: to see this last season out with the butt so
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: then I can I can see him seven months and
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: songers Wolves, But yeah, I think And and the advice
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: from you know, the family is absolutely right on and
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: and it is. And what he really talks about is
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: like it is scary. It is scary because he's gonna
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: have to like open himself up and say these scary
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: things and she could just be like, no, I don't
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: like you. And and that's scary because they haven't even kissed, right, they.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Know they did. They kiss last season for sure, like
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: in the rain of the exact same scene.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, they made it seem in the next Yeah,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: in the next episode made it seem like this was
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: their first kiss.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: I know it.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: You're right, and you know, I guess it goes you're
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: right and It's interesting because to me, Georgie, Georgie I
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: feel like has subtly shifted from last season. I think
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: that when last season, I think that Georgie seem to
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: be a little more open with.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: Her affection towards him. Hm hmm, okay, because she did
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: not seem enthused. I was surprised by her response.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: But I know, yeah, I agree, especially because I mean, yeah,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: we can we'll get into that. But I can't wait
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: to talk about it with you. But I completely agree.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: But I'm glad that he's going to again open his
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: heart and be able to talk about the things because
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: it's going to be painful. But you know, at the
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: same time, at least you get clarity and you can
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: move on and you need to learn and you have
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: like it's just such a respect for everyone to be clear,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: like with your intentions. It's also like the dignity that
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: you hold yourself in mm hmm.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, because he's not going to keep I mean
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: that's some of It's a bit of like, yeah, do
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: you want to keep going on these group dates and
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: sitting with the unknown and all of that? Right, what's
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: that Brene Brown quote? Clear as kind unclear as unkind.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: It's like that simple, you know.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know we had we watched you know, a
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: very in charge of lady Danny pretty much break up
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: with someone because you know, she didn't she he wouldn't
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: have sex with her. You know, it's of last season,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: so it's good. It's good to be clear and communication. Yeah,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: we are going to end episode one on an old favorite,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: and that is Madison, who is right now seemingly the
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: picture perfect example of the show. She sits down and
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Kean asks how are you and did we find your person?
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: And she says, yep, I found love on the spectrum
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: and it's with Tyler, her cowboy that we met. Not
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: only that, like difference of relationships, she is literally moving
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: to be closer to him with her brother. Her parents
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: obviously are financially secure, and you know they are. They
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: are moving her and unpacking and the dolls. There's American
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: girls just like Foo's daughter. I mean, you know, all
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: the wheelchairs, all of the different like patterns, maybe one
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: of those like arm wars that you brooke. Did you
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: buy her everything?
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: Not everything, but a lot.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah. She had a little beauty salon, spa station where
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: there were bunk beds a lot of accessories.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: Oh plus using care bears.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: Not care bears, but lots of stuffed animals.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: So happy when she said care bears because I was like, oh,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: they're still around.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: Do you know the scare.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: We're Yeah, I think care Bears came along. That's after
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: time and then before my daughter's time. So I'm really
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: unfamiliar with the care Bears.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: God, care bears to me are late eighties, And there
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: was a movie that the care Bears came out with,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah watch too Much that basically they go they all
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: get us some weird camp I don't even know, and
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: there was a bad boy at the camp, and that's
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: all I remember, except that at the very end they
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: all have to get together, hold hands, and care Bears
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: stare their hearts, love survives.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: Well, what happened to the bad boy? What happened with
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: the drowns? You know, he's murdered in his cabin.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: They could do they could do any fucking thing, But
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: in the nineteen if it's a nineteen something before the movie,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: they could have been I mean.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: Oh please, we're gen xers, like we are so fairal
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: I can't even tell you, like, no one cares.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what's the I'm I'm born in nineteen eighty two,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: so I'm like the elder millennial.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: I'm all right, you are. You are considered an elder millennial.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: I know it. I know it, and don't be ashamed.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: I always say millennials have Millennials are the most misunderstood
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: and have gotten such ship from everybody, from every course.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: You you everything, You've had a really hard time.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like boomer is really hard to have a lot
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: of hard times. But at least they're rich.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're this is all the money. Yeah, no, no, no,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: it's it's like I said, you all became adults at
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: a time where everyone had a platform to criticize and
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: criticize you and criticize what you're doing. They were worried
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: about us. They were worried about gen xers, they were
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: worried about baby bores, you know, because they wanted you know,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: the war, blah blah blah. So everyone's always worried about
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: It's just the unfortunate and then a lot of other things.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: The two thousand and eight crys. So won't get into
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: it us, don't get don't get me start. I will
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: shut up, Okay, sorry, really.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: No, I know we have to move on. I can't wait, though,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: But okay, I'm gonna set up this date and then
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: we'll go on and okay, I'll just have this sate
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: a little bit and want me talk about it on
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: the next episode, which will be on your channel, and
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: I'm super excited to have this collab with you all.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: But basically, we start with a gorgeous set up date
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: that she gets to go on with her boo, Tyler
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: because now she's living right by him in Plant City, honey,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: home of strawberry fields. You know, strawberry fields forever. I
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: can make older reference anyway, it's a boomer reference. Yeah,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: I have all the references anyway. She they when they
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: first met, we realized they both love country music and
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: they both are One of their love languages is gift giving.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: Mmmm well that was very obvious.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, Tyler knows how to make her smile and
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: oh yes, by just giving her every everything, all the
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: food she wants, all the compliments she wants. He last
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: last season just kept bringing her like Pandora jewelry and
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: like different charms, you know, like he really, I mean
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: he's yeah, he knows how to treat a lady. But
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: this is their first Valentine's Day date and it's gorgeous.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: He like, it's this beautiful setting with waterfalls and tiffany lamps,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: and she's so appreciative. She keeps mentioning, you know, like
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: she's never had a Valentine's Day she usually you know,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: she's never gotten here. And he says, well, y'ah, oh
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: my people break up with me before Christmas, you know.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: And yeah, but I'm like, oh wait, because because why
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: would they do that to like, if you're not gonna
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: be able to give them gifts?
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: Then that's why Tyler wants is so excited. He's like, finally,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: finally I can buy a gift and give it to her.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: And he knows exactly what she wants, you know, like
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: the conversation hearts and then he gets her a plan McDonald's.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's like, wait, is this actually McDonald's. And
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: the way in which it settles upon her that it
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: is Yes, that's love.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: That is love that again would be like Taco Bell
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: would be like, Chris, I'm like, this is a Gredo
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: supreme inscrounds predosupreme for you, So chelupa right there I'd
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: be like, wait from Taco Bell, Like, likewhere else be
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: talking about Taco Bell. I'd be like, look warm, I
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: mean like I would be you know, yeah, yeah, my
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: favorite is what she screams anyway, but we get to
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: talk about that on the next episode. All right, everyone,
• 1:15:55
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• 1:15:58
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• 1:16:17
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• 1:16:21
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• 1:16:26
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• 1:16:28
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• 1:16:34
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• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: Well? We cover yeah, we cover well, we do cover
• 1:16:39
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• 1:16:43
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• 1:16:46
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• 1:16:51
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• 1:17:07
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• 1:17:12
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• 1:17:24
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• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: Want to hear about generations because generations is history.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: Yes exactly, hates itself, yeah, exactly. And it's it's all
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: about framing. It's just I'm not It's not about labeling.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: It's about framing and helping people better understand each other.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yes, love that all right.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: My life, I just usually do two breaths and I
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: do my outro, so two breasts, just a mindfulness we
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: can just get together this is happening in present life.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: If you can some sort of like daily mindfulness practice
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: will help all of us have a better connection to
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: how we're actually feeling in the moment, and then therefore
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: respect for ourselves and hopefully anyone that we come in
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: contact with. So either just like using any sensory moment
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: you want to bring yourself into this moment. Stop if
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: you are like me replaying every horrible moment for my
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: past and planning for like the perfect future, it will
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: never happen. So I put my feet on the ground
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: and you can listen to my voice or any other
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: sound in the room, just for two breaths and feeling like, oh,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: for a moment we were all here together, and how
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: lovely that is.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 5: I always fuck up, so I always give myself one
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 5: more opportunity.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: All right, my baby booz, take care of yourselves and
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: one another sind of for what you believe, and make art.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: My