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Ian Furness 9/23 H2: Gregg Bell with the latest Hawks info, Stewart Mandel talks CFB and the Daily Power Play! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: Apparently the Rams didn't get the memo last night. They
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  Speaker 2: still have a shot at the playoffs. Why? How do
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  Speaker 2: I know that? Well, they had four hits and gave
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  Speaker 2: up 12 hits.
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  Speaker 2: Was that all? That's it. That was not good. Their
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  Speaker 2: and the Rangers to lose out and Seattle to win out.
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  Speaker 2: Two teams go 0-5. One team goes 5-0. That's why
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  Speaker 2: the playoff chances are less than 1%. Jackson Dart's season
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  Speaker 2: is over. He's going to have surgery on his knee.
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  Speaker 2: Opening drive Monday night.
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  Speaker 4: Brutal.
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  Speaker 2: Jameis Winston takes over as the quarterback. Jake Hainer is
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  Speaker 2: the backup for now. How good does Drew Locke look
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  Speaker 2: right now as your backup quarterback?
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  Speaker 4: Real good.
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  Speaker 2: Real good. More on the Seahawks. Greg Bell sitting down.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get all that stuff in just a second. Sounders
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  Speaker 2: looking for their first win in a long time against
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  Speaker 2: Real Salt Lake. 13-match winless streak. Five straight draws. Game time, 6.30.
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  Speaker 2: Lumen Field over on 9.50 a.m. Storm finish up their
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  Speaker 2: woeful season. Record-breaking season in terms of losses tonight with
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  Speaker 2: their final game of the year.
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  Speaker 4: Here we go.
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  Speaker 2: All right, back here at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of like this, and we may end up just,
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  Speaker 2: if he's willing, do this every week, that Greg and
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  Speaker 2: I are out here at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center
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  Speaker 2: on a Wednesday. Greg did his show 10 to 12 today,
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  Speaker 2: Greg Bell's show 10 to 12, and then his work
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  Speaker 2: as Tacoma News Tribune beat writer moves into the covering
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  Speaker 2: of the team, locker room, and the auditorium. And so
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  Speaker 2: without going through the list and all that, you were
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  Speaker 2: in there. Let's go through everything. First of all, we
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  Speaker 2: played the cut from McDonald talking about the two or
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  Speaker 2: three questions about the Graham Bensinger thing. Let's just put
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  Speaker 2: a bow on that. Your thoughts?
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  Speaker 4: Well, he took full accountability for it. He says he's
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  Speaker 4: responsible for whatever he says in any situation. And that
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  Speaker 4: he called Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: He said that the Broncos coach was really great about it.
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  Speaker 4: He respects Payton and the program they have in Denver.
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  Speaker 4: And he said right off the top that he did
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  Speaker 4: not intend for it to become public. This wasn't some
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  Speaker 4: calculated thing by McDonald trying to say don't mess with
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  Speaker 4: the Seahawks. He intended that to be just a chat
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  Speaker 4: before the actual interview began. He was surprised and blindsided
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  Speaker 4: by the fact it became public and was aired. It
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  Speaker 4: was on the YouTube feed of the entire interview from Benziger.
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  Speaker 4: And he said it was a lesson learned. And he's
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  Speaker 4: got to learn to be more careful about what he
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  Speaker 4: says and who he says it to. The fact is
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  Speaker 4: it is a guy that lacks journalism ethics who took
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  Speaker 4: advantage of a situation for a few clicks and a
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  Speaker 4: few views. And McDonald knows not to bring Graham Bensinger
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  Speaker 4: into his house anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And I think at the
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  Speaker 2: same time, you know, I mentioned this earlier. There's also–
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  Speaker 2: this is the other part of it too. There's a
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  Speaker 2: difference between doing a TV interview and a newspaper or
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  Speaker 2: a print interview. Absolutely. You know, when you're setting up
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  Speaker 2: for the TV interview and doing all those things, there's
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  Speaker 2: just an assumption, at least always was on my part,
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  Speaker 2: and I bet if you ask Aaron or Nico, those
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  Speaker 2: guys out there, they'll tell you that same thing, that
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  Speaker 2: you're not rolling, you're not, this is just, we're just BSing. Newspapers,
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  Speaker 2: it's usually a little more specific. If you're sitting down
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  Speaker 2: with a guy, there's nothing to set up, on the record,
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  Speaker 2: off the record. Then the verbalization comes into play. I
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  Speaker 2: love the fact McDonald took responsibility, and good for him
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  Speaker 2: for doing that. Frankly, it's not– that's on the other guy.
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  Speaker 2: That was on the other guy.
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  Speaker 4: When you sit down as a print journalist– I've been
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  Speaker 4: doing this for 27 years. When you sit down with someone,
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  Speaker 4: you say, hey, how's your daughter doing?
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  Speaker 2: How's your wife doing?
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  Speaker 4: And they say something that is of note that would
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  Speaker 4: be interesting to a reader. I always– it's imperative today. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: is it okay if that's on the record and I
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  Speaker 4: use that?
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Because when you're just having pleasantries and chatting, the assumption
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  Speaker 4: is it's not on the record.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Even though I didn't say this is off the record,
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  Speaker 4: this is on the record. You just say, hey, do
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  Speaker 4: you mind if I use that in the story?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I had a player last month. I asked him for
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  Speaker 4: the name of his daughter. And he told me her name.
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  Speaker 4: I said, is it okay if I put that in
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  Speaker 4: the story? He said, no, I'd rather you not. I
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  Speaker 4: don't want her name out on the internet in public. Great. Perfect.
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  Speaker 4: So her name's on it.
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  Speaker 2: It's really not that hard. No. It really isn't that hard.
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  Speaker 4: It's a journalism ethics thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's really not that difficult.
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  Speaker 4: And that producer or whoever it was that decided to
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  Speaker 4: run it could have easily, hey, we're running the entire
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  Speaker 4: 94 minutes of the everything, off the record everything we're
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  Speaker 4: putting on the YouTube page. Are you okay with that?
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  Speaker 4: If we have these segments and gone to McDonald or
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  Speaker 4: his agent and said that, but they didn't take that.
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  Speaker 2: Step, there we are. I believe there's nobody there from
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks PR staff.
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  Speaker 4: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the other issue.
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  Speaker 4: My understanding is it was an end run around them
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  Speaker 4: and was directly with McDonald's people.
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  Speaker 2: There's a reason that a good PR staff would never, ever, ever,
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  Speaker 2: and these guys, there's no chance that that would have
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  Speaker 2: been aired if they would have been there. That's correct. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: News of the day. Sam Darnold.
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  Speaker 4: Sam Darnold is going to practice. They don't know how
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  Speaker 4: many snaps he's going to get. He's not going to
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  Speaker 4: get all of them. and that's a hedge in case
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  Speaker 4: his body doesn't respond tomorrow very well to practicing today
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  Speaker 4: for the first time in two weeks since the injury.
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  Speaker 4: Drew Locke will get ones, reps two. McDonald said by
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  Speaker 4: the end of Friday, meaning after the three consecutive practices,
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  Speaker 4: they'll know who will start in Washington on Sunday. So
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  Speaker 4: it really depends on how McDonald's body responds to the
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  Speaker 4: next two days of practice.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think in the case of Donald? I mean, what's,
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  Speaker 2: or Darnold, what's your read on what he was saying?
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  Speaker 4: My read is that they expect him to get more
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  Speaker 4: reps each day. And that as long as the normal
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  Speaker 4: course of recovery and he doesn't have setbacks that he'll
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  Speaker 4: start Sunday. That's my read is that they won't give
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  Speaker 4: him all of it now as a hedge in case
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  Speaker 4: he doesn't feel great tomorrow. So that McDonald's, that lock
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  Speaker 4: will have practiced those first team reps and didn't just
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  Speaker 4: lose a day in Wednesday and not doing anything.
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  Speaker 2: I think you and I discussed this yesterday in crosstalk, like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, all things being equal, you know, would you
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  Speaker 2: play Sam Darnold with the case of who the opponent is?
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  Speaker 2: There's their own situation at quarterback and, and offensive line
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  Speaker 2: injuries and everything else. And, I think my initial thought
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  Speaker 2: is always like, yeah, you just play them. You play
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  Speaker 2: your best players. But then the other side is, well,
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  Speaker 2: but can you hold them out one more week and
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  Speaker 2: get them that much better? The problem is this league.
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  Speaker 2: There's losses you just cannot take, and we've seen that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, ask Tampa Bay. Ask a lot of teams
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  Speaker 2: around the league that are 0-2 or 1-1. You just
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  Speaker 2: can't afford it. This is one that you never– in
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  Speaker 2: the back of your mind, you're chalking a 2 or
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  Speaker 2: 3 up. We're probably not going to sweep the Niners,
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  Speaker 2: and we're probably not going to sweep the Rams. So
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  Speaker 2: there's a couple losses there. And then we've got a
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  Speaker 2: tough schedule. So that's the quandary I think you're in.
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  Speaker 4: And this isn't Major League Baseball or the NBA or
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  Speaker 4: the NHL with 162 and 80-82 games. There's 17. So
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  Speaker 4: they don't just take a pass on a one or
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  Speaker 4: two and say, well, we'll just get through this one.
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  Speaker 4: That's not how NFL coaches and players think. The other
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  Speaker 4: thing interesting is, to me, The locker room dynamic of
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  Speaker 4: if the players see that Sam Darnold's healthy enough to play,
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  Speaker 4: they expect their guy that won them the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 4: last year to play. And if he doesn't play for
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  Speaker 4: the reasons we're talking about, I don't think he should
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  Speaker 4: play personally. I would see why clock's going great, defense
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  Speaker 4: going great, leave him another week. But if the players
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  Speaker 4: see that he's out practicing and doing great and responding
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  Speaker 4: to it, they expect their guy to be out there
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  Speaker 4: leading them. And if he doesn't, there's going to be
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  Speaker 4: a wait a minute. That's our guy.
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  Speaker 2: That's our guy.
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  Speaker 4: You don't want to disturb any kind of locker room
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  Speaker 4: dynamics of the team.
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  Speaker 2: That ecosystem is fragile.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they've run 19 of the last 22 games on
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  Speaker 4: a franchise record winning streak. Don't mess that up.
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  Speaker 2: Do some of that. A.J. Barner had a great line. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just going to produce on the air because this
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  Speaker 2: is on the record. Ash, on record. The line that A.J.
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  Speaker 2: Barner had about Drew Locke says he would have been
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  Speaker 2: a great college roommate. I thought that summed it up
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  Speaker 2: like just– Just a bro. Yeah, he is. Right?
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  Speaker 4: Kind of a sweater around the back, golfing bro. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: A little of the higher end of some college days,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah. Yeah, I just thought that was a great
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  Speaker 2: line by him. All right, other injuries. Jadarian Price.
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  Speaker 4: Price is going to practice. He didn't commit to him
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  Speaker 4: practicing today. McDonald didn't, but he'll practice at some point
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  Speaker 4: this week, still to be determined.
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  Speaker 2: Whether he plays.
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  Speaker 4: Zach Charbonnet will not practice this week. He's eligible to.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's have you explain what this 21-day window is. Okay, so.
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  Speaker 4: This year, the PUP rule list, physically unable to perform
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  Speaker 4: list guys, rules changed that they could come back to
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  Speaker 4: practice after the second game to open a 21-day window.
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  Speaker 4: The first day he practices while still on the PUP
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  Speaker 4: list technically opens a 21-day window for them to then
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  Speaker 4: determine whether he can be coming off the list or
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  Speaker 4: needs to go on IR for the rest of the
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  Speaker 4: year because he didn't respond well. Well, that 21-day window,
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  Speaker 4: if he's eligible to practice this week and he practices
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  Speaker 4: this week, you'd have two of those three weeks before
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  Speaker 4: he would be eligible to play because the Pup List
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  Speaker 4: rule remained the same that you can't have Pup List
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  Speaker 4: guys play until after four weeks.
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  Speaker 2: So Chargers game is the point where he could actually
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  Speaker 2: play after that. Correct.
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  Speaker 4: But the fact that he's not practicing this week strongly
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  Speaker 4: suggests that he's not going to play after that fourth
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  Speaker 4: week because otherwise he not only has one week of
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  Speaker 4: practice to ramp up, and he hasn't practiced since January.
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  Speaker 4: So my read when McDonald says he's not practicing this
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  Speaker 4: week is they're going to pump the brakes on Charbonnet
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  Speaker 4: coming back And it may not be as soon as
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  Speaker 4: he's eligible to after the pup list ends four weeks in.
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  Speaker 2: We had a rotation at right guard. Both Bo Stevens
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  Speaker 2: and Christian Haynes played. Kind of two series, two series,
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  Speaker 2: two series it looked like on Sunday down in Arizona.
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  Speaker 2: That's because Anthony Bradford was out. What's his status?
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  Speaker 4: Anthony Bradford now on injured reserve. He's going to be
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  Speaker 4: out a minimum of four weeks. I ask, is it
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  Speaker 4: one of those longer-term injury reserves or is he on
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  Speaker 4: the shorter end? McDonald says he's on the shorter end.
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  Speaker 4: They think he's got hip injuries. On top of a knee,
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  Speaker 4: it was bothering him, but the hip came up last week,
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  Speaker 4: and that's why he missed the Arizona game. So it
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  Speaker 4: sounds like maybe a month, five weeks, six weeks for Bradford.
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  Speaker 4: Christian Haynes is the man that McDonald mentioned right away.
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  Speaker 4: would be the first man up. But I think they're
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  Speaker 4: going to continue to give Bo Stevens some rep. And
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  Speaker 4: we've talked about it. Christian Haynes has had three years
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  Speaker 4: and about five opportunities to win that job, and he
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  Speaker 4: hasn't done it. And Anthony Bradford emerged last year because
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  Speaker 4: he lost the job or beat Haynes for the job.
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  Speaker 4: But Bo Stevens is still a rookie. Haynes has only
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  Speaker 4: got one more year in his rookie deal after this one,
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  Speaker 4: but they've got four years of Bo Stevens. They want
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  Speaker 4: to see a little bit of what he has. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if it's going to be two on, two
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  Speaker 4: off like it was in Arizona.
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  Speaker 2: They want to go with one guy, right?
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  Speaker 4: If not one guy, maybe a couple series each half
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  Speaker 4: for Stevens and the preponderance of the snap for Haynes.
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  Speaker 2: You're just asking a lot for the other four guys.
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  Speaker 2: Especially the two guys... In the middle on the right,
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  Speaker 2: Lucas and Sundown.
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  Speaker 4: Except through my binoculars on that fourth and one, the
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  Speaker 4: failed fourth and one with seven offensive linemen on the
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  Speaker 4: field and Oluwetemi as a fullback, Bo Stevens pinned his guy,
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  Speaker 4: drove him down the line and pinned him over where
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  Speaker 4: it would have been the center. He wasn't the reason
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  Speaker 4: that play didn't work. Oluwetemi got held up and stood
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  Speaker 4: up in the hole. So Stevens impressed at times, but
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  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be Haynes. If I had
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  Speaker 4: to guess, it would be like an 80-20 split percentage-wise.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Stevens was– Decided number three.
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  Speaker 4: Well, not even close to competing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, all training camp. He was never up in
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  Speaker 2: that mix.
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  Speaker 4: No, he wasn't. He never even got on the second team.
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  Speaker 4: Not one day.
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  Speaker 2: So that's not the best of news, having your right guard.
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  Speaker 2: I know people, I mean, he was everyone's favorite guy.
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  Speaker 2: Anything went wrong on the offense, it was Anthony Bradford's fault. Right.
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  Speaker 2: But be careful for what you wish for.
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  Speaker 4: True.
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  Speaker 2: Because John Benton loves him. Yes, he does. And obviously
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  Speaker 2: the team likes him, and he's been the guy.
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  Speaker 4: And he's in a contract year, so he's motivated to
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  Speaker 4: get back. So he's on IR. That's news of the day.
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  Speaker 4: He has injury reserve. He'll be out at least four weeks,
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  Speaker 4: but McDonald thinks it's on the short end. But he's
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  Speaker 4: very motivated to get back because his contract ends after
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  Speaker 4: this year. I've talked to him about that, and he
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  Speaker 4: knows it's a big year for him.
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  Speaker 2: What else?
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  Speaker 4: What else did he talk about? Let's see. Talked about Darnold, Charbonnet,
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  Speaker 4: Mickey Moore. After the nine snaps he had, McDonald said
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  Speaker 4: he's on his way back. McDonald said today that Eamon
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  Speaker 4: Worry's workload this week and play count on Sunday at
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  Speaker 4: Washington is going to be, quote, significantly higher than it
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  Speaker 4: was the nine in Arizona. When I talked to Eamon
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  Speaker 4: Worry in the locker room in Arizona Sunday, he said, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I'm back. I'm playing every snap the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 4: I'm full go.
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  Speaker 2: That was his preseason game?
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  Speaker 4: It was. He got his one preseason game.
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  Speaker 2: He's done.
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  Speaker 4: He isn't doing any of his governing pump.
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  Speaker 2: The brakes on me. I'm done. I'm going.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not. So in his mind, he's full go. And
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  Speaker 4: it sounds like he's going to be close to full
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  Speaker 4: going wide.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if he felt good on Monday and everything like that,
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  Speaker 2: then that's a good sign as well. All right. Good stuff.
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  Speaker 2: News Tribune. Greg will have all that for you as well. And,
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  Speaker 2: of course, back with you tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.
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  Speaker 2: We'll take a break.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks, Ashley.
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  Speaker 2: I miss you.
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  Speaker 4: Miss you.
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  Speaker 2: We'll check in next with Stuart Mandel talking to some
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  Speaker 2: college football Washington fans. What does it mean to be
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  Speaker 2: kind of middle of the pack with that NIL spending?
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  Speaker 2: He'll talk about that. This will make you happy as
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  Speaker 2: a Husky fan. How about Oregon on the brink? Maybe
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  Speaker 2: being eliminated from the college football playoff race in week
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  Speaker 2: four of the college football season. We'll talk about that
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  Speaker 2: at Superman Dell next.
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  Speaker 1: Now with Stuart Mandell, here's Ian.
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. One o'clock hour at Seahawks headquarters.
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  Speaker 2: We're switching over to college football, though. Ian Furness with
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  Speaker 2: you at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center. Stuart Mandel from
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  Speaker 2: The Athletic joins us. His weekly visit. Hi, Stu. How
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  Speaker 2: are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm good. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of stuff on the field to get to, and
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  Speaker 2: I want to get to all that in a minute.
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  Speaker 2: I was remiss. This was an error on my part
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: last week because I wanted to get to this. I
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: had just read the story that you guys worked all
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: summer on, on the spending, basically the NIL spending. for
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: all the Power 4 schools across the country. Great story.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know how long that took. I'm assuming a
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: long time to piece that together. At the end of
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: the day, there's been a lot of talk here in
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: Seattle in the days ensuing about where Washington ranked. It
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: was kind of mid to lower tier of the Big Ten,
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: which is kind of mid to lower tier across the country.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: Let me take a step back first of all. Walk
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: us through the process and how difficult it was to
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: find this information. It's pretty amazing because we hear all
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: these numbers thrown out there, but to actually find tangible
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: numbers to attach to, it has to be difficult. Yeah.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, the goal was to get the, how much
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: each roster costs for every power for school. And that's
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: hard to do because everybody's so secretive about it.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: And you find out pretty quickly, like we're probably not
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: going to get a precise number, but we can at
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: least get an estimated range. And so you're talking to, Coaches, GMs, ADs,
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: people at collectives. And some schools are very cooperative and
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: some didn't cooperate at all. So then you try to
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: piece it together from other places. But I think it's
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: pretty telling that since it went up, we've only heard
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: from two schools that claim we were wrong. And those
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: two schools, well, every school was given the opportunity to
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: confirm or deny what we had before we went to publication.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: Doesn't really do much good to hear from them after publication.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: So for the most part, I am confident they're very accurate.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: What are your takeaways from what you guys found?
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously there's a huge gap from top to
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: bottom and not just nationally, but even within conferences. And so,
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: you know, I think we all expected to see a
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: big gap between, for instance, Oregon, Texas, you know, teams
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: that are in that $ 50 million range and Purdue, you know,
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: not to pick on Purdue, but that kind of profile program.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: But like you said, I mean, within the Big Ten,
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: there is a big drop from, you know, you have
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: Oregon and Ohio State kind of off on their own.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: And then you have USC, Michigan and Indiana who are
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: in the high 30s, low 40s. And then you just
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: have a big, big drop off to everybody else. And
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: so it's not that Washington is at or near the
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: bottom of the conference. They're just kind of jumbled together.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: With a whole bunch of programs that are spending in
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: the neighborhood of 20 to 25 million on their roster.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: which isn't bad, but it's about half of what Oregon's
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: spending on their roster.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Stu, if this was some of the
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: things you found or not. In the NFL, where I'm
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: sitting here today, we can look at a salary cap
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: and say, X player is taking up this percentage of
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: the salary cap. Jackson Smith and Jigba or Devin Witherspoon,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: soon to be Sam Darnold probably next year, things like that.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: And we kind of look through there. I'm wondering if
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: at all, you came across things that, that tell us
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: that some of these rosters are top heavy in terms of,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: for example, Washington is reportedly paying DeMond Williams jr. 4.5 million.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: And then the drop-off might be, if they're spending in
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: the low twenties, I would assume the drop-off is pretty
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: significant after that, uh, along the way. Is that a
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: way to look at it? Like, Hey, you know, these
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: numbers are kind of crazy 40, 50 million, but you know, uh,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Dante Moore's making eight of that, for example. I mean,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: did you find that at all?
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: You know, at least we were able to get the
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: team by team numbers, getting individual player numbers. That's impossible. Unless,
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: you know, I think we got DeMond Williams is because
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: of a lawsuit. You know, I know, I mean, I
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: know several GMs because it's kind of all changed once
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: you got revenue share, once the schools could allocate the
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: money themselves, or at least some of it and GMs who,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: they try to follow almost exactly the way NFL teams
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: allocate a QB. So they're fine with a QB getting 25%, 30%
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: of the salary cap because that's how it is in
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: the NFL. Your problem is this is not a rational market.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: And also you don't know, since nothing's public, if the
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Seahawks are going to go renegotiate their starting left tackles contract,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: they know exactly what the last five starting, you know,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: in college, they're just going by, The agents are claiming like, well,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: this guy got this, so you should pay our guy this,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: but you don't know for sure. You have to try
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: to vet it any way you can. So I think
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: that does result in a lot of guys getting overpaid
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: relative to their position. But I would love to be
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: able to have somebody say, here's our whole roster, top
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: to bottom. Here's what everybody made, so we can get
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: a sense of how it's allocated. We just don't have
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: that right now.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: No, it's really hard. Well, great stuff. I would urge
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: people to go back and check it out and look
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: at it. and I'm sure as the years go on
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: or even the year goes on, we'll discuss this even more.
• 18:47
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• 19:08
  Speaker 2: what a weekend. Let's just start with the game. You
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: wrote about it a little bit with Trinidad Chambliss today.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: People were like, oh, why is he still playing in
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: his sixth year? Well, I mean, Division II guy and
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: didn't play and all that stuff. But I thought you
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: said it well. I like watching the kid play. I
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: like watching him play. That was maybe at times the
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: emotions were too far, but last Saturday, Ole Miss-LSU. You
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: know what? Not once did I think about NIL or
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Transfer Portal or whatever. I just watched the game and
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: said this is mesmerizing.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, you know, for all the angst
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: about this stuff, why anybody would watch that game and
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: be like, you know, this would be even better if
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: the players weren't paid or if they didn't transfer so much, right? Like,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: it just, you couldn't ask for a better.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Given the storyline, given Lane Kiffin's return for it to
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: end the way it did. First of all, for Trinidad
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Chambliss to do what he did. And after Lane Kiffin
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: tried to help get him this extra year of eligibility,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: thinking he would follow him to LSU. But yeah, the
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: interception at the end, I think it'll be an iconic photo.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: of that Ole Miss player pointing at Lane. Like, the
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: fact that he had the wherewithal to do that in
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: the moment, right? So, I mean, that game lived up
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: to all of the hype and more, and I do
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: think Trinidad Chambliss made a strong case that he's the
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: best quarterback in the country.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: It was something special all the way around. I want
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: to just look ahead a little bit and back again
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: in a second, but in a general sense... Are you
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: guys and Stuart Mandel with The Athletic, also The Edible Podcast,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: and whether you're talking to Ralph and Bruce or others
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: in your profession and your peers, guys you do the
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: podcast with, is there any sense this year at all
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: of what the max number of losses may be to
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: get into the college football playoff? And we'll go from there. But,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, normally it feels like two is kind of
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: the drop-dead number. Could it be three this year?
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think the thinking from the beginning
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: has been with the SEC playing the non-conference games that
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: some of their teams are going to take an extra loss.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: And would that open the opportunity for a 9-3 team
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: to get in? And I think we'll just have to
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: wait and see. But I do feel like the chances
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: of that increased because of the way the SEC played.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: They went 10-2 against Power 4 teams so far in non-conference.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: I believe nobody else has a winning record.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: So.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: of course their teams are going to get ranked because
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: of that. I think they have 10 this week and
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: then they're going to knock each other off and they're
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: going to accumulate top 25 wins and you're going to
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: get to the end of the season. And maybe let's
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: just use LSU in this example. Maybe they have three losses,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: but they also have three top 25 wins. You're definitely
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: going to hear Greg Sankey and those folks going to
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: bat for those teams. But every year is different. Last
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: year we had several 10 and two, you know, we
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: had obviously Notre Dame most prominently, but also Vanderbilt attended
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: to SEC team that got left out. You know, even
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: some years, I don't think you're guaranteed to get in
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: with two.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: So that brings us to the question about elimination games.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Let's start out here in the Big Ten, sort of,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: although it doesn't feel like a Big Ten game. Oregon
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: and USC feels like a classic day of the Pac-12.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: But Oregon-USC, Oregon took that loss we all know at
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma State. They go down to USC this week. They
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: almost lost to Boise State. The body of work, I'm sure,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: comes into play at some point, too, when a committee's
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: looking at it. They're saying, hey, here's what they did
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: throughout the year. Here's their wins. Here's their losses. We'll
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: throw the Portland State game out of the mix a
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: little bit. But if we look at this game this weekend,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: for Oregon, is it at least the potential for an
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: elimination game?
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to say it's an elimination game when
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: we just talked about you can get in at 10-2.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Now they do have to go to Ohio State. They'll
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: have no margin for error at that point. So much
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: of what Oregon's resume will look like in November or
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: December is what happens to Oklahoma State. If Oklahoma State,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: right now we consider that such a bad loss, but
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: if Oklahoma State turns out to be like a 9-3 team,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: then two months later they'll say, well, that wasn't that
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: bad a loss. They lost on the road to a
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: 9-3 team. If Oklahoma State goes 4-8, that's a really
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: bad loss that's hard to overcome. So I just think
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: that one game and that one result will shape their
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: resume so much.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm wondering too. It feels like Oregon's
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: going to play a little bit desperate. USC, do we
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: really know what they are yet? This is kind of
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: a barometer game for them, right?
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think we know that they have a
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: really good quarterback and really good receivers again and kind
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: of the kind of offense you'd expect from Lincoln Riley.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: But any notion that, oh, they have a much better
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: defense kind of went out the window at Rutgers last week. Now,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: was it one of those weird flew across the country
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: looking ahead to Oregon, like one of those kind of things?
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Or are we seeing yet another example of like, no
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: matter what Lincoln Riley does, you can hire Gary Patterson,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: you can bring in five-star freshmen, and they're still not
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: going to be very good on defense. We'll find out
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: because I think Oregon is going to come out for blood.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: And we know Dante Moore and we know all the
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: weapons they have. So the chance to be, but at
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: the same token, right, Oregon's defense is a huge question
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: mark right now after what we saw the first two weeks.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I kind of wonder about Oregon's both of their lines,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: the defensive line and the offensive line. It feels like
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: that I thought would be a lot more dominant for
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: the Ducks. And going into the season, I mean, they've
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: got probably, God, I don't know, around probably 10 NFL
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: players that should be drafted off that roster is what
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: our draft guy is telling us. And a bunch of
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: those guys are up front on both sides of the ball.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: New starting tackles comes into play, but I'm going to
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: be watching the line of scrimmage this week. Because the
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: USC was great when Pete was going and had that
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: thing humming. That's where they were really dominant.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: The Oregon defensive line should be– there's no reason why
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: they should be anything. It's all seniors, a couple of
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: those guys who could have easily turned pro last year.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: But I think we got accustomed to Oregon being really
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: good on the offensive line, especially when Bo Nix was there,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: he would rarely get sacked. Now, as we get further
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: from the Mario Cristobal era, though, that's Mario Cristobal's whole thing, right?
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: He knows offensive line. He recruits great offensive linemen. And
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: as you start to get further away from that, it's like, oh,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: they got exposed a little bit last year. They're not
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: off to a good start this year. The two starting
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: tackles you mentioned had just like brutal PFF grades off
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: that Oklahoma State game. So that could be a problem.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt. We've got another interesting one this weekend.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: What do we know about Tennessee? They take on Texas
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: this weekend at home in Neyland Stadium, and more or
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: less at home, and against Texas, the number one team
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: in the country off that huge win against Ohio State.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: What do we know about Tennessee? How much of a
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: fight can they give Texas, do you think?
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think we know much of anything about Tennessee.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: They have a really good running back in Deshaun Bishop,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: but this is going to be a true freshman starter
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: for them now, which you rarely see anymore, these two
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: freshman starters. Dazon Brandon going against an extremely talented Texas defense.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: But I think week to week this year now, I mean,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: not that Arch wasn't already the story, but I think
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: the story's changing a little bit. At least for me,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: if you're realistic and you say, okay, after 18 games,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: I think we know who Arch Manning is. And he's
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: going to be good some weeks and he's going to
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: be bad some weeks. And which one are you going to,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: even within the same game, and which one are you
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: going to get? Because they're going on the road. It's
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: going to be a great atmosphere there in Knoxville. Are
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: we going to see him basically first three quarters of
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Ohio State or last quarter of Ohio State? He stunk
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: last week against UTSA. That's going to determine so much
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: because otherwise Texas is loaded.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Stuart Mandel with the Athletic Audible Podcast. I think you
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: wrote about this, I believe. I know it's been talked
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: about a lot. If you're just ranking the quarterbacks in
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: the SEC– Arch Manning, if you ask the average fan,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: people are going to say, well, he's probably going to
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: be the number one overall pick in the NFL draft.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: But if you're ranking quarterbacks in the SEC, he's far
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: from number one, isn't he?
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have no idea what his NFL stock is
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: at this point. I'll leave that to those experts. I mean,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: the two most impressive quarterbacks in the country this season
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: so far, and I know it's a young season, are
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Trinidad Chandler and Camario Taylor at Mississippi State. Two guys
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: in the same state. I think Gunnar Stockton from Georgia,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: who is... is a proven guy and is leading the
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: country in passer rating right now. So you're going to,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: there's three, you're going to put ahead arch. And then
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: if you've watched Alabama at all, so far, they've been
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: on big TV games every week. You know, they've got
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: a good young quarterback in Keelan Russell, who Keelan Russell,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: who I'm not quite ready to anoint yet, but you know,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: he definitely has a lot of upside. So you're talking
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: about his arch, the fifth best quarterback in the sec.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Is that even maybe a little generous? I don't know.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: At one point, Bruce and Ralph will see the light
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: of day here. I feel like I'm on an island
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: here just saying, like, he's not bad. Arch isn't bad.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: He's just not what you guys thought he was going
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: to be.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Stu, what's happened to John Mateer?
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: That's a great question. Can you tell me?
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Well, I can. I think it's an Arbuckle problem. Honestly,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: if I'm being serious and not just taking shots at
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: the guy that left us, because I understand why he
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: left us. The money was obscene, and he should leave.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: That's what the NIL– in a sense can be, uh,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not an Arbuckle fan. I wasn't, I think we
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: were doing this a couple of years ago. I, you know,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: the second half of that season at Wazoo, if you
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: look at the numbers, it was, it was bad. Like
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: it was really bad. And against some teams that it
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be bad against like Wyoming and Utah state that
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: at the time, I don't know if it's a material
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: problem as much as maybe Arbuckle isn't the wonder kid
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: that people thought.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Because you saw material in that year, Washington state. He
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: was great.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Great.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Um, I think sometimes for a coach, the problem for
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: a coach like Brett Venables, like Brett Venables is one
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: of the great defensive coaches of the last 20, 30 years.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: He did it on Bob Stoops' staff. He did it
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: at Clemson. And now again, he has Oklahoma with a
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: great defense, but sometimes those guys just don't know what
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: they want to do on offense. They kind of, okay,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: we'll try this. So that didn't work out. We'll go
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: hire this hot guy.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: And Arbuckle had that reputation at the time. And so
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: sometimes I just wonder about fit, you know, right now,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: There's another quarterback, Michael Hawkins Jr., who basically they recruited
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Mateer over him. And he's at West Virginia now with
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Rich Rod, and he was out there taking it to
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Virginia last week, and he didn't do anything at Oklahoma.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: So you do start to wonder sometimes, like, well, maybe
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: it's not just like our run of bad quarterbacks. Maybe
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: it's the coaches.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I think that's the thing is like, you know, I
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: think back at Wazoo, you know, over the years and
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: the great quarterbacks that did come through there, you know,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: like even like, I'll just even go way back to
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: like a Drew Bledsoe, Tim Rosenbach, guys like that. When
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Dennis Erickson was coaching there, offensive-minded guy, Mike Price was
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: phenomenal with quarterbacks. He made guys that weren't good look
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: good along the way. I think Mike Leach always had guys.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Mike Leach was there with Gardner and others. I don't know.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: We watched Mateer in spring games and then obviously the
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: one season he started, and there was such a wow
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: factor there. The physical tools are undeniable, and yet here's Oklahoma, unranked,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: going to number two Georgia, And all eyes are going
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: to be on Mateer and that offense for Brett Venables.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a massive game this weekend for Oklahoma.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: He really, struggling against Michigan is one thing. He struggled
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: against New Mexico last week.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: And he had a quote that a lot of people
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: kind of took and ran with, that basically he had
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: this one long touchdown pass to their best receiver, Cetina.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: And he basically said like, oh, I wasn't going to,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: I was going to jump over him on my reads,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: but then I heard the crowd going crazy. So I
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: figured he must be open. And people are like, really?
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: You're basing your decisions based off the crowd? I feel
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: bad for the guy. I'm sure his confidence is shot.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: He had that injury early last year that seemed to
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: affect him the whole rest of the year. And the
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: thought was, okay, he'll come back this year and be
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: healthy and be better. And it just hasn't been the
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: case so far.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: No, it has not. Thoughts on Western Michigan-Boise State?
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: It's a really interesting game. I do wonder if where
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: everybody's a little caught up to up a little too
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: caught up in what happened in the Michigan game. I,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: you know, Boise should win that game. Like Boise is
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: a different level of G six team from Western Michigan. However,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: they had their hands full, uh, with South Dakota last week. Um,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: like they, they're not, they're not untouchable Boise. So it's
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: going to be interesting to see elimination game.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Maybe. Like we talked about that a few weeks ago
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: with Memphis.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for sure, right? Because, first of all,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Boise would have two losses. And I think Western Michigan,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: this is like their– because the MAAC is not a
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: good conference. Let's be honest, right? You're not going to
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: be piling up signature wins in there. So here's your
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: chance to show where you are with the other G6 teams.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: If you at all believe in the football gods, then
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: this is one you believe in because this game being
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: scheduled before, you never would have thought anything of it.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: And now all of a sudden, it's like, wow, this
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: is like a G6 huge massive game along the way.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: All right, Stu, tell us about the Audible podcast and
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: what you got going on.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: The Audible is three times a week, Tuesdays, Thursdays, and
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: live Saturday mornings. I'm sorry, Sunday mornings.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Sunday mornings.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Wrapping up the weekend at 8.30 a.m.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Pacific. You guys do a terrific job.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: You can get there at Audible Show on YouTube.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: And you can watch it on YouTube. You can listen
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: to it on where you get your podcasts. Also check
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: out what Stu's got going on along with Bruce and
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Ralph and the rest of the crew at the Athletic Go,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: the NCAAF for football tab. And they got all, it's
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: the best coverage you'll find out there along with a
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: great podcast that those guys do as well. We'll talk
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: to you next week, Stuart. Thank you.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: That is Stuart Mandel from the Athletic joining us more
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: to come. We're here at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Corbin Smith joins us two o'clock, 93.3 KJRFM. Okay, we're
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: back here at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center. Thanks to
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Stuart Mandel. Good stuff there. So maybe Oregon can, maybe
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: the Duckies can survive one more loss.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: Maybe.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: And get in the college football playoff.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Lucky Duckies.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: But they would, it sounds like they'd have to beat
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Ohio State.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't really see that happening.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: I don't think, I don't like their chances.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: I don't like their chances.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Fight on. I was just– 49451. I just got to
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: ask this question. I know it's not sports. I just
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: got to get away from that for a second. Okay.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: So it reminds me because we were out here. A
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: memory popped up recently. Do you have those Google photo
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: memories pop up every now and then?
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: On your phone? Yeah. So it pops up on my
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: phone the other day, and it was a picture of–
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I think it was Steve Schramacher, old photog of FOX
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: 13 and me. We were on an empty berm in
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: late July of 2020. high up, like standing up on
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: top of the berm, and like no one around.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what was it?
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, that was the COVID training camp, right? And it
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: popped up. I bring that up for this reason. Maybe
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not the only one. You ever get those emails
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: and it's like, you know, hey, we've changed our terms
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: of policy. You need to re-register here, da, da, da, da.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: And you're like, I don't even know who you are.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: And sometimes it's spam. I get that. Sometimes it's somebody trolling.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: But then you're like, no, that looks legit. And then
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: you look at it. So you do a search and
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: you say, when was the last time I got an
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: email from this group? So I got one of those
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: the other day. Okay. I look at it and I'm like, okay,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: it looks legit. Let me search my email because I'm
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: an email hoarder. Are you an email hoarder?
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: No, I have to.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Well, yes and no. I can't handle anything like notifications unread. Yeah.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: My personal email, I'm kind of a hoarder. Yeah. It's
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: just impossible to delete them all, I think. I think so.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: And I feel like I'm missing out. So I go
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: back and the last time I had this was, it
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: was like late July of 2020. And I'm like, I
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: think that is some sort of COVID testing thing. Oh
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: my gosh. And it might've been from out here because
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: anytime we came out here or, or anywhere around the team,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: even though we were not around the team, like it was,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: every interview was done on zoom. Yeah. Everything we did
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: was far away, but we were out here a lot
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: and we always had to do the test. And that
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: was not the fun test. That was a test that
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: up the nostril and it hits the back of your eyeballs.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Like in your brain. Yeah. Yeah, like it's scratching your
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: frontal lobe. It was like you're automatically tearing up, and
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: then you've got to wait like an hour for them
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: to process it. And yes, you can go and stand
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: on the burn by nobody else, that type of thing.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: And that was the last time I got that. So
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I think I'm just going to delete this and never
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: hear from these people again.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: I think it'll be fine.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I think you're safe. We're never going to hear from
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: them again, are we? Are we done with that? We're
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: done with that, right? God, I hope so. God, I
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: hope so. God, I just can't. It is weird, though,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: because I do feel like you look back at that
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: and it just feels like it was this, I mean,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: obviously it was a weird time in everyone's life, but
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: it also doesn't feel like it was really real. Yeah,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: you know, that's an interesting, well, one of the things that,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: you know, we were talking about this with Stu about
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Trinidad Chambliss, you know, like that year, 2020, and even 2020, 2021,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: when like football seasons, you know, a lot of college
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: seasons were, I remember the Pac-12 didn't do anything that year.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Like we did nothing. like I think teams play like
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: maybe three or four games, right? Remember? And there's like
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: the Wazoo game was canceled with Cal. Cal was at
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: the hotel in Moscow and never showed up to the
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: stadium for the game. Like it was such a weird time. And,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: you know, and then you got players now that are
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: still trying to get eligibility, you know, from that time. And,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: but yeah, it does seem somewhat surreal. Like it didn't
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: take place. I'm kind of with you on that. It
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: does kind of seem weird. I just never go through
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: that again. Every time I'm out here, I think I'm thinking,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I look at the empty berm and I think of that.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Just that weird time and how strange it was. God,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: the fact the NFL played a full season that year,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: empty stadiums are not as remarkable. It really is something else.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: COVID didn't exist in the NFL, at least sometimes, unless
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: the Rams got sick and then we had to play
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: like three days later. And it never existed in the
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: SEC either, if you notice that. Oh, yes.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not real. It didn't exist down there. Good
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: stuff from Stu. We will get into more college football
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: on Friday with Rob Rang. He'll join us, his weekly
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: visit coming up at 2 o'clock on Friday, brought to
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: you by Farrelly's. We'll check in with Corbin Smith coming
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: up next and just kind of go through the list.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: The right guard situation is an interesting one. With Anthony Bradford,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: and I don't think any of us saw that coming
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: until we just found out about an hour ago, that
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Anthony Bradford is going on the injured reserve. So he's
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: going to miss the next four games. And one of
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: the strengths of this football team, is certainly the offensive line.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: And if for no other reason, the consistency and the
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: continuity of that offensive line. And we saw that for
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: the most part, a couple of guys miss some games.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I remember cross miss some games towards the end of
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: last season. Sundell was out for a couple, but they've
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: been very consistent, but that same starting five. And I
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: know Bradford's not everyone's favorite player at times, but he's
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: a better option than I think what they have. They're
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: going to go with either Haynes or Stevens. So we'll
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: talk a little bit about that. Now, They did have
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: a 16-play drive without Anthony Bradford in the game on
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Saturday and kind of put that game away against the Cardinals.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: But that's not a good sign. It could be worse.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: It could be the Giants. They lost Jackson Dart. That's
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: not good. That's way worse, yeah. Well, it's way worse
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: when you look to the sideline and you don't see
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Drew Locke. Right. You see what used to be Jameis Winston. Man,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: he's funny, though. He's funny. Not sure if he can
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: play quarterback anymore. And then the backup is little Jake
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Hayner from Fresno State.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not great.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a good thing. We'll check in with
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Corbin Smith coming up next.