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The Big O Podcast - Episode #12 OMF · The Big O Podcast

• The Professor: no, we don't get the theme music. I I love the theme music. Yeah, it's all slow Glenn Ordway: you like the funky you like the funky music? You like it? There you go. See? Yeah. Lou Merloni: Chicka, chicka, chicka. Chicka, chicka, chicka. The Professor: pan from the left. Look at all my accomplishments, Lou. I'm really special. I had a really great career. Glenn Ordway: It's the MFers, ladies and gentlemen, The Professor: Okay. Glenn Ordway: but when they join me, they become OMF. It's a softer, you know, kinder touch than The Professor: Yeah. Lou Merloni: Go. Glenn Ordway: just MFers. hello boys, how are we doing today? The Professor: Hey, Glenn. Lou Merloni: Listen, I got one problem here. When I look at the screen, see Glenn Ordway, yeah, I see Glenn Ordway: you you have more than one, but go ahead. We'll listen to your first one. Lou Merloni: Glenn Ordway, Lou Maloney, and then in the foreground it says the professor. Like, I can't do it, Glenn. I know you and Glenn Ordway: Yeah. Lou Merloni: I both gone to his classes, but I can't call this kid like a freaking teacher, like the professor. I can't do The Professor: Yeah. You better. You better. Lou Merloni: it. The Professor: Listen, hey, that's just a late lot of things have changed, Lou. We've all Glenn Ordway: What what's what scares me, Lou? Yeah. The Professor: evolved since our days at at the station up north. We've all changed. Lou Merloni: Yeah. Glenn Ordway: I hope I hope so. what scares me though is I don't know about you. I haven't got the call to come in and teach an hour of his class, which he probably thinks he's mastered this whole broadcasting business and he doesn't need our our ass anymore, Lou. Doesn't need it. The Professor: That's not true. No, Lou Merloni: Mm-hmm. The Professor: that's true. I'm I'm waiting for the perfect time. Cause listen, I want to showcase you. Like there's this is when Glenn Ordway steps onto campus, like when you come back in the in the winter, or if you ever come back in the summer, but I won't Glenn Ordway: I'll be back. The Professor: be teaching in the summer. When Glenn Ordway arrives on campus, it's kind of the big deal, Lou. Like I know Lou Merloni: Yeah. The Professor: like the old station that we worked at, like will never recognize you of being anything other than a passerby. But here at Bryant Glenn Ordway: Ha ha. The Professor: University, We would we have a whole plaque set up just for you, a ribbon cutting ceremony. We wanna honor the greats of the past. Glenn Ordway: please. Lou Merloni: How many security guards? How many security guards does he need when he comes on campus? Like, do you have to set that up, security detail? The Professor: A lot. It it's a lot. It's it's really kind of embarrassing, you know, plain clothes, detail, all that stuff. It's just like, you know, everybody's got like a headset, they're all kind of talking with each other, you know, when you know the big O's on the big O's on campus. Lou Merloni: was kind of thinking that maybe I could be like your teacher's assistant second semester. I might have some time off, some free time. So I might, can I be your teacher's Glenn Ordway: Sometime off. Sometime off. That was my first qu The Professor: I seriously. Lou Merloni: assistant? Can I do that? What? The Professor: That would be kind of fun. Then we could just literally Glenn Ordway: That was my first question. The Professor: do our show. We could just do our show from nine thirty five to twelve five. We'll just do it once Lou Merloni: That's it. The Professor: a week on Monday. Glenn Ordway: That was my first question here today. Lou Merloni: That's it. Glenn Ordway: Lou, what are you doing with all your free time? I I think I know a little something about free time. What the hell are you doing? Lou Merloni: love it. The Professor: He's bored. Lou Merloni: I know I absolutely love it. Like it's a grind. Don't get me wrong, know, February to October, like it's games, travel, it's everything else. But now The Professor: Yeah. Lou Merloni: I get home and it's like, I'm semi-retired. My wife and I, kind of hang out, you know, maybe we walk the dog. I get a lot of golfing. I'm doing a lot of golf here these first few weeks. The Professor: You live in the wrong place. You live in the wrong place, like for your offseason. You should you should live where Glenn lives during the offseason. Glenn Ordway: Yeah, you should be out here for golf. Yeah. Yeah. Lou Merloni: That's why I'm trying to get it in. The Professor: And first of all, and that was that was kind of that was you know, Glenn, that was our first question is how many times have you walked the dog since the season ended? I mean, you're you must have Lou Merloni: I- The Professor: about twenty thousand steps a day because you have nothing else to do but to walk your stupid dog and and film yourself. That dog is that dog hates Lou. He's like, dude, I'm Glenn Ordway: That poor dog that poor dog is worn out after the two game sweep. Lou Merloni: Yeah, no. There's. The Professor: over the walk, bro. Lou Merloni: Well, I would say this, there are some dog walks, but they're not always filmed. And sometimes they're filmed and deleted, like, I don't want to go there. We don't need to The Professor: Yeah. Lou Merloni: go there. And when the season's over for me, it's sort of like, I got to get away for it, especially when it ends the way it ended. Because the radio and the print and everything else, and I'm just like, I don't want to engage in any of this stuff. I'll let it calm down for The Professor: Yeah. Yeah. Lou Merloni: a few weeks and then maybe dip my toe in it with a little bit. But no, it's nice. The Professor: Yeah, a little bit. Lou Merloni: It's nice. like I'm just I just chill now, wait for the season The Professor: Yeah. Lou Merloni: to start whenever it is. Glenn Ordway: Yeah, but you're gonna The Professor: Yeah. Glenn Ordway: watch the World Series. I know a lot of people are saying, Lou Merloni: Yeah, it's a good one. Glenn Ordway: small market, I won't watch it. What you talking about? These are the two best teams in baseball. And they were all year long. I mean, the Dodgers had Lou Merloni: Yeah. Glenn Ordway: their their moments, but at the end, the Dodgers weren't great. No Tani went into that slump. These are the two best teams, aren't they? Lou Merloni: Yeah, they are. And I know the whole, like, it's not the big market. So the ratings, maybe you'll take a hit, but it'll be fun to watch for people that constantly, the funny thing is, is like, they are two of the most analytical teams in the game, right? So everybody screams analytics, it's killing. So you got two of the most when everyone can't wait to watch them, because they both sort of flip the analytics on the script a little bit, right? Like they on its head, because they, they've kind of gone back to playing baseball the old ways, right? They sack punt, they hit and run, they move runners. mean, they, Everybody understands their role. It's just they have they've turned the clock back. They take they make contact So it's gonna be a great series. You are right. They're the two best teams in baseball We I remember we saw the Dodgers early in the summer or midsummer and we actually swept them was when they were hot And I remember just thinking something looks different here, right? They got school bull Yamamoto and then the offense kind of felt like it was getting old You know, and I don't know. It's almost like they're beginning this three years ago with the Phillies were And we'll see, they still get the arms, they still get the great players, but they're two best teams, they should be. Glenn Ordway: Well, the the Otani drop off was amazing because I think we had already anointed him, the greatest player in MLB history, and suddenly he was a shell of himself. It was almost like he had to be hurt and they kept on saying, No, he's okay. He's fine. Yeah. Lou Merloni: Now he was hurt. He was hurt. His elbow was bothering him. That's why he wasn't pitching. His knee was bothering him. So it's, and that's the deal with that contract, $70 million. If he's going to pitch, he's going to be worth it. But I just don't think you can withstand that. It's hard enough to pitch in this league and be a starter, let alone a position player. And if he's just a one-way guy, a bat at DH, then it's still worth it because of the money they're bringing in from Otani. Let's stop kidding ourselves. Glenn Ordway: Think so. Lou Merloni: But yeah, the injuries crop up. He's just not the same guy. Glenn Ordway: How much Bradfoot pay you to wear that hat here The Professor: Wear that hat. Glenn Ordway: on the podcast? Lou Merloni: Yeah, I just threw it on there. I thought he'd be really excited. The Professor: Yeah. Let Glenn Ordway: Yeah. The Professor: me see. What what what's the lettuce looking like right now? What do we got? short. Look at that. Remember when we Lou Merloni: The lettuce, we got the floof, you know, it's working. Yeah, yeah. Glenn Ordway: Pretty good. The Professor: shaved you weren't there, Glenn. You had already retired. We shaved Lou Merloni: Shaved my head. The Professor: we shaved Lou's head. Glenn Ordway: Was that a b was that a bet that you lost, Lou? Lou Merloni: Yeah, yeah, I forget what it was. We did something I lost. My wife still hates me for it. Tells me to never, ever do it again. But yeah, we burned right there on the air. Just shaved my head. You know, lost my lettuce. The Professor: Yeah. Yeah. I I and that was amazing because out of all the things, of all the I don't know what the uncomfortable things like that we had to do, I feel well that was no big deal. That Lou Merloni: You and Fitzy diving into the Boston Harbor in your onesie. The Professor: was a that was a physical challenge more than anything. But I mean, but you Glenn, you remember how important Lou's hair is to him. Like he manicures Lou Merloni: It is very important. Glenn Ordway: It's very important. The Professor: that stuff, he treats it, fruits and berries, he's always got it. Perfect, right? For him to shave his head. First of all, Lou Merloni: Yes, yes, yes. The Professor: we we actually broke a pair, you know, clippers because it was so thick and glorious, you know, and we had to go buy a new pair because we couldn't get all the hair off because it was just so thick, right? Lou Merloni: Glenn, he, before he jumps on there with the clippers, doesn't even put a one guard on. I'm like, bro, you gotta give me a one guard. He wanted to go straight scalp, like bald bald. I'm like, just give me a little stubble. You know what I mean? Just a The Professor: Straight scalp. You lost. Lou Merloni: touch of stubble here for God's sakes. That was all good. Glenn Ordway: Portraits. I do like I do like the look though. He's coloring his beard white so he can be an aging statesman. Have you noticed that? I mean, yeah. The Professor: Yeah. Lou Merloni: on the back of a skunk's ass. This is what I got rolling right now. The Professor: Yeah, that's what it looks like. It's like if like if if Lou is like a a character in a Disney movie that was a skunk in the cartoon version, then they turned to life and this is what you would look like. You would get this is Cartoon Lou. Lou Merloni: Yeah. Well, I got to show it a little bit because everybody always accused me of like, you freaking color your hair, you know, and I'm like, no, I don't. I got gray right here. I got a couple coming in here in the sides. That's why I keep it short. The Professor: No. Yep. Yeah. Lou Merloni: I got a 17 year old kid. So they're growing now. No, look at him. The Professor: Glenn's got no gray hair. Like that's what is he's got Glenn Ordway: A little bit in the little bit The Professor: zero glare hair. Glenn Ordway: in the mustache and but no, my hair has stayed the same the same color. The Professor: At some point in time you made a deal with the devil in s in a bunch of different ways, I'm sure. I'm I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? It's it's not humid here. It's just it's a dry heat. Glenn Ordway: I hope so. It does do that. It the sun does does do that. So Lou Merloni: It's that Arizona sun. It's keeping it blonde, Chris. Chris, keep it blonde. Yes Glenn Ordway: so I do have to I I do have to ask you one more baseball question. Did Lou Merloni: Yeah. Glenn Ordway: did you have as a an old school baseball guy, did you have any problem with Junior Camonero with his longest celebration and home run trot in the history of baseball? Because I loved it. I thought it was great. Lou Merloni: Yeah, I didn't have a problem. I'm not there with some of the people. And I get it, people that just don't like it. I understand that. to be honest with you, like, Cameron Aron, I'm just sitting there like, was waiting for him to kind of have that moment in that ALCS. And it was going to have in the World Series too. But like, I'm like, wait till this guy hits a homer. Like, wait until he hits a home run. This is going to be the celebration of all celebrations, right? Because I've seen it all year long during the regular season. So I don't have a problem with it. Whatever. It gets people talking about the game. Glenn Ordway: Yeah, see I see Lou Merloni: I don't have a problem with it. Glenn Ordway: and and football, as Christian knows that you know, you have celebrations all the time. Anytime you do it. Sometimes guys have celebrated Lou Merloni: Yeah, and they try to squash those. Glenn Ordway: sometimes guys don't even realize they have celebrations when the the they didn't even get a first down. I mean they do stupid shit out there. Lou Merloni: Yeah. Fourier would be tossed right now for doing his little hip thrusts whenever he used to score back in the day. Glenn Ordway: That The Professor: That was the jump spike, Lou. That was the jump spike. I never danced. Glenn Ordway: little dance he used to do out there. Lou Merloni: the jumps. Yeah, but there was a hip thrust once in a while. The Professor: I never threw the hi only one though. Any more than one, they're gonna throw a flag. Just you just keep it to one. Lou Merloni: Of course. Just Glenn Ordway: All so I I Lou Merloni: one thrust. Glenn Ordway: I've gotta ask Christian, because I know you heard Kirk Menahan on the podcast, and Kirk described he took fault for a lot of stuff. I would I was pleasantly The Professor: Yeah. Glenn Ordway: surprised. He said that he was an asshole, he understood The Professor: Yeah. Glenn Ordway: why people hated him, he got a lot of that stuff. But the one thing that he held on to was the encounter he had with you in the hallway. Lou and I were both there. We had to break the break the thing up. The Professor: Course he did. Glenn Ordway: And he claims that that was all your fault. The Professor: Come on. Glenn Ordway: You had to go both had to go to HR and I think both were suspended. Were you not? Were you both suspended? The Professor: No, yeah, yeah. First of all, no. This was he I've already talked to him about this. He he's gonna deny it till he's blue in the face, but he admitted being the instigator in this. And I would say I showed a tremendous amount of restraint in this situation. Glenn Ordway: I thought so. The Professor: and then and here's the thing: like, this is where it was so confusing with him. He used to preach and talk about we'll handle everything in house. Like, we don't need, we don't need to go to HR. We don't need to go to management. Why don't we just handle everything on the air and in house? I'm like, all right, fine. Like the rules are constantly changing. I'm like, fine. That's fine with me. So there's a there's an altercation. And next thing I know, he goes to HR. He goes to HR and he's trying to get me fired. I'm like, whoa, this is not what we talked about. What a surprise. You know, and of course, listen, we we were. We were both at fault. We were both a little nuts at those at during that time. And but I will say this about about because I listened to it. It was great. He was Lou Merloni: Mm-hmm. The Professor: great. You can't talk about Kirk Manahan without saying he's great. Hey, he's great. Let's talk about Kirk Manahan. Okay. I I I it it's almost like a prerequisite for talking about him, but I will say, like, listen, those were great times. Like that, all those interactions. With him and Jerry and Dino, like that whole that whole time frame, when I think back about it, I miss Lou Merloni: Thanks. The Professor: all that stuff. I know there's been a lot talked about how it wasn't fun. Like even like the the tension and the the interactions with Kirk and Jerry, right? It was it was so unpredictable going to work. It was so just competitive. And yeah, I was listening to you guys like, wow, I really miss that time. You know, and I guess once I figured out like how to deal with Kirk, like it was never a problem. Like it was never Lou Merloni: Hmm. The Professor: it was it wasn't. It was just Lou and I would talk about it all the time. Like, and when we we him and I were like, how do we lean into it? Like, how do we benefit from it? How do we engage with these guys? Like we weren't, we weren't afraid of confrontation, you know, we weren't afraid of like the moment. And you know, as opposed to other shows who wanted nothing to do with it, we wanted it. We were like, these guys are on it. How do we kinda like kinda bite off it a little bit? And right? Am I am I saying that right? Lou Merloni: See, No, I was just saying, like, Glenn, you know, I mean, the goal is to have people want to listen, correct? Like, they Glenn Ordway: Right. Yes. Lou Merloni: want to listen to you. So when Minahan destroys any one of us and people know that our show's on next and that we're gonna react, and then at the end of our show or during our show, we're gonna lean into Kirk, what do they do? They want to listen the next morning or they want to listen to the next show. I that's your job on radio, to make people listen to you. So it's, yeah, listen, it was like that love hate thing, right? People always like, what do think about Kirk? I'm like, it's complicated. But I I always liked him, but the hate was real, like when we would go at it. And then The Professor: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lou Merloni: afterwards, then maybe you see him the next day and he's like, that was really good radio. And you're like, yeah, it was. So you start figuring it out, like, not that it was fake, because it was real. Like Kirk would freaking lose his mind. Or we would lose our minds and we would all react to one another. But was like every time you went to battle with Kirk though, had to be on point. Because he would hold something in his back pocket and throw it The Professor: I I remember w we were Lou Yeah. Lou Merloni: on you in the last minute, try to get you. Like you couldn't tell that son of bitch anything, because he'd hold onto it for 10 years and then come back and get you with it. The Professor: The the the funny thing is I remember like when I first started, like Lou and I were at this this country club doing a a remote show, yeah, Lou Merloni: The Golf Girl. The Professor: a golf country a country club, and like Glenn wasn't there. And I remember like I I would just I had just started and then he was going back and forth and Kirk was like insulting him. And I'm like, dude, what are you you gonna take this from this guy? They gotta let this guy talk to like this? What are you insane? This would this is this would never exist in my world. Like that's we are doing something about this guy. I could and then he well Glenn Ordway: Well Kirk used to The Professor: hold on, but But then Lou was like, nah, no big deal. And I was like, okay. I guess I just it it was, it took Lou Merloni: Yeah, it was weird. It worked. The Professor: it, no, it did work. It listen, it took me, it took me a while to just kind of appreciate that those types of moments, like because you Lou Merloni: Yeah. The Professor: know, because they were so valuable to us. I remember we were like, all right. And then I remember when you left and Kirk left and every everybody who was good left. It was like it was it was Lou and I. And and I remember like Greg had just gotten hired. And the very first day we start teasing, we start teasing Greg. We start teasing Lou Merloni: Teasing. The Professor: this, we start teasing him. We're we do what we would do with anybody, like any of our friends. Lou Merloni: Not Kirk, it was way low, way below that. The Professor: It was, it was super int entry-level teasing, right? it's cadence, the weather. We did the same thing with with Gresh, you know, and he didn't have a problem. But I remember like Greg, next thing you know, we get pulled into the prince principal's office and they're like, we don't want that anymore. We you can't do that. Like you can't talk about. You can't tease anybody. You can't make fun of them. And we Yeah, I was like, I was like, what? I mean, like this. Lou Merloni: Yeah, this isn't 2017 anymore. We heard that an awful lot. The Professor: I was like, this. So obviously Gray went and complained about us teasing him. listen, I don't know. I okay, I Lou Merloni: I don't know who did. Yeah. But I would say. Glenn Ordway: I I I think they The Professor: don't know that for sure. Gray's gonna get all mad and he'll talk about it, but whatever. I all I know is that we were told not to make fun of him. And I like Greg, and that's what I do. That's what we did Lou Merloni: Yeah! The Professor: with our friends. We teased them to their face. Glenn Ordway: Yes. Bust Lou Merloni: You know, Glenn Ordway: balls, that's what it is. Yeah. Lou Merloni: people say it all the time, Glenn, people say it all the time too afterwards. like, it's just too much drama. You I don't like listening anymore. Those same people listened every day because they actually liked it, you know, because it got them to tune in. wherever this thing was going, like people were tuning in because it was hysterical. Did it annoy some people? Probably. I think talking sports 24 The Professor: Yeah, no, they didn't like it. Lou Merloni: seven annoys some people or not talking enough sports annoys some people. You find out in The Professor: Yeah. Yeah, no. Lou Merloni: this world, you annoy everybody. Like everybody is, nobody's happy with everything you do, so who gives a shit? Just do what's good, you know? And that's what I thought we were doing, but didn't work. Or worked, but. Glenn Ordway: It's funny that they s they say they they don't wanna do what we did in two thousand and seventeen. They would love to go back to the ratings that we had in two thousand and seventeen right now. Lou Merloni: No, they rather, as that meeting told us, I would rather you guys be what was it, fifth and sixth, than be first or second and no drama. You're The Professor: Yeah. It's crazy. Glenn Ordway: Yes. Yes. Lou Merloni: like, so we all get fired and nobody gets bonuses? And what happened? Everybody got fired. Right? So there you go. There you go. Glenn Ordway: What pee what it it Yeah. What is what is The Professor: No. Glenn Ordway: very interesting and I don't think The Professor: Seriously? Everybody? That's isn't that we all predicted this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They put a restrictor Lou Merloni: Why did you get fired? Why did you get fired? the ratings are too low. wait a minute. Hold on. I thought that guy said we didn't need ratings. He just wanted no drama. The Professor: plate on all of us. Like, hey, listen, hey, I know you're funny, but don't be too funny. Hey, I know you're opinionated, but don't be too opinionated, right? Hey, we we want you Lou Merloni: Yeah, don't piss off everybody. The Professor: to be yourself, but not fully yourself. Like be a little bit of somebody else. Glenn Ordway: That was the Lou Merloni: Yeah. Glenn Ordway: sensitivity training session days that we Lou Merloni: Yeah. Glenn Ordway: had in which an executive that said that course you were you were The Professor: They should make a movie of that day and that day alone. Glenn Ordway: responsible for that day. You were responsible for forcing us to go. And it was a Friday too. I could have taken a long weekend. Lou Merloni: Nice job, Foyet. The Professor: I had a little bit to do with it. Hey, I say this. I learned it. I'll tell this to Kirk. Listen, hey, well, I learned it from Kirk. I learned it from from you and Kirk. I was like, and Jerry, hey, Glenn Ordway: no. The Professor: listen, these guys live on the edge. So I kind of went a little bit too close to the sun. Okay. Fine. What do you want me to do? Glenn Ordway: Trying to make fun of Ron Borges and look what happened to you, you know. Borges has taken down a lot of people over the years, I think. But I wanna bring I The Professor: I can't believe it was me. Glenn Ordway: wanna bring this up because I did see their the ratings for for EEI and they were still bad. And so it's not working with everybody might be getting along, kumbaya and hugging every day, but it's not getting, you know, big ratings. But I applaud you guys. When I left, they did not put a third guy in there. They put Lou in the number one chair, which was totally unfair at the time. Lou Merloni: Ugh. Sucked. Glenn Ordway: Because it is so different right. It is so different than The Professor: Totally unprepared for it also. Just literally he couldn't do it. Glenn Ordway: yeah. Than being Lou Merloni: Yeah, it's like I'm an infielder. Why don't you go start this game and give me four innings on the mound? What the fuck you talking about? I'm not a pitcher. Yeah. Glenn Ordway: Exactly. Right. The Professor: Yeah, go pitch. Glenn Ordway: Exactly. But I gotta give you credit, Lou. You did figure it out. I mean, maybe those long walks with the dog and talking to yourself, The Professor: Yeah. Me too. He did. Yeah. Yeah, it's the dog. Glenn Ordway: maybe that well, Lou Merloni: It was all learning from the best, Ordway. The Professor: Yeah. Yeah. Glenn Ordway: you you did. And but here's the dumbest part. So Lou finally figures it out. They find a third person in Mego, Megan O'Dolini, who I thought was pretty good. She under The Professor: She's great. No, she's great. Lou Merloni: Mm-hmm. Glenn Ordway: she understood sports. She was willing to make fun of herself. She was the the perfect Lou Merloni: Yeah. Glenn Ordway: foil for you guys as the third person. I don't know why they don't use her more often right now. But suddenly you guys get a 10 share in your last rating book. It was a fall rating book. Fall rating books are the most important. Fall and spring are the most important. You had over a 10 share, I think a 10-2 or a 10-3. They Lou Merloni: Yeah. Glenn Ordway: would die to get half of a 10-share right now at that place. And then what did they do? They dismiss you. See ya later. Got a tension. I was shocked at that, guys. I was shocked but nothing should shock me with radio today or that place. Shouldn't. Lou Merloni: Well, as you know, I mean, it had nothing to do really with ratings at the time. It was like, how much money can we put a show together with? Right? I mean, that's kind of where it was. In the end, you know, it really didn't do me a favor. It was perfect timing for me personally, you Glenn Ordway: Perfect for you. Lou Merloni: know, because I can go into the booth and do what I wanted to do. But yeah, and that was kind like the weird part. was like, okay, number one, radio. I think I did it for like 15 years. And I was like, I've never been suspended. And in my last book, we actually did like a 10 or an 11. I'm like, I'm good. Like, we're out of here. So. The Professor: Lucky. So yeah. Yeah. That is amazing. Yeah. Lou Merloni: You move on. Glenn Ordway: we got suspended for a day with sensitivity training, but it wasn't your fault, Lou. It was that guy's fault over there. Lou Merloni: Yeah, I had a few instances though. You there was like a cake that was sent out to Chicago that was like Mutt and I, we got into some issues with that, but it wasn't really anything. Yeah, Glenn Ordway: it made the front page of the Herald, right? Lou Merloni: I know. Yeah, I know. Freaking Wolfie. Where's Wolfie? Yeah, yeah. Had a big penis on it, I think. And it was Glenn Ordway: It was a porn it was a porn cake. Lou Merloni: like the play in the Blackhawks in the Stanley Cup. And I remember being like, Wolfie's like, hey, I found out something we can do to mess with those guys that we're The Professor: Mm-hmm. Lou Merloni: going back and forth with. And we're like, all right, sure, sounds good. Glenn Ordway: Show some dick pics on a cake. See w how it works. Lou Merloni: Yeah, we were green as hell. We didn't know what we were doing. Mutton High were like, yeah, whatever you say, we're in, let's do it. Next thing you know, it's from Pager the Herald. Oops. Glenn Ordway: So Christian, how foreign was the whole environment of being in that radio situation for you coming from football where everybody is team and you guys pat each other on the ass in the in the in the locker room? How different was that for you? The Professor: I I will say that was probably the biggest adjustment. Not watching games or figuring out how to analyze games. The biggest adjustment was dealing with the culture that existed at our old station. And because, you know, a team, like you're instantly accepted and everybody looks out for you and everybody's got your back. And nobody's like, if there's like sure that you're fighting and stuff like that, but nothing. Nothing like what I what I experienced when I got there. Cause I was like, wait a second, this guy is talking about my parents like and he means it. I Lou Merloni: You The Professor: was like, wait a second, because in my world, somebody like challenges you challenges you like that with the way Kirk did with the and you're listening to the tone and you're like filtering for sarcasm or you know, some some sign that he's seriously just joking, but he really loves you. Lou Merloni: Yeah, wait, he really means it. The Professor: No, but I was like, wait, I think he actually means it, and then I gotta go through a cross. Lou Merloni: Hehehehehe The Professor: And I'm already hot and bothered, and I haven't really learned how to control my emotions yet. Right. Lou Merloni: Eugh The Professor: So I'm just like, no, this is on. Like you somebody better ask Lou. There were some times I would be sitting in our office going, I I'm going to strangle this guy and I'm Lou Merloni: You The Professor: probably going to go to jail. And I finally just it, I finally just had enough of it. Lou Merloni: Yeah. The Professor: And me, I and probably I just had enough of it. And that was kind of the the start. But the environment now listening to you and Kirk and Jerry. At Dino, right? That, like once I kind of understood like how it was, I was totally fine with it. Like I was absolutely fine with it. Once I kind of understood and had a really good understanding of what the real goal was and why they were doing it, because none of these guys are like how they are on radio. Like none of them are. you know, Jerry and Dino you know, had a great relationship. Jerry and Kirk were like best friends. You know, it was whatever. Like, okay. And then once the mics went off, it was like, all right, so what do you want to do for dinner? So that, but that took me a while. That took me a while to kind of understand. And then I didn't have I didn't have an issue with anybody. I we were just really trying to figure out how we could not do the same thing, but do something similar our way. Like that's what when Lou Merloni: Mm-hmm. The Professor: we were number one, when the three of us were number one, we had it locked in. We had it dialed in. We were we were playing off a lot of the stuff the morning show was doing, but we had our own personality. Cause I remember for everything you would say about Kirk and Jerry, like if they If they kind of identified like something that was good, they would tell you. They would tell you. I'm they, you know, even after they were crapping all over you, they would crap all over you and they say, Yeah, by the way, that was a really good segment. You guys are on your way. They were right. I think they understood where we were going as well. And it was proof, it was proved correct, like when the ratings came out. So I don't know. Yeah. Glenn Ordway: Well, they they tried to help us. There was no question about it. But when you look at Kirk's approach, it was almost like he picked a month and that was gonna be his target. So, you know, it'd be January, it'd be it'd be February. I think February, Lou Merloni: Quiet period. Glenn Ordway: I don't think February in Kirk's mind was Black History Month. I think it was go at The Professor: No. Glenn Ordway: the big O and destroy the big O. But I remember there was a month The Professor: Ha ha ha. Glenn Ordway: that Lou was the target, and he was going at Lou, and we would and and every day. The Professor: So funny. Yeah. We gotta we you gotta face the storm. Yeah. You gotta go in it. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Glenn Ordway: W we would send Lou in to do the crossover. Do you remember that? And it and it got worse every day, right? Lou Merloni: Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's just sort of proof what it is, right? Like if you're attacking them, it's like, well, okay, they're attacking me. I'm not gonna send a one way or four way. And I'm going in there because this what we're doing. And you're absolutely right. We would always sit there when the Super Bowl was over, because the patch were always in it, we'd be like, okay, get ready, because it's coming. Like, I don't know where it's gonna come from, but Mnohan, some point this week is gonna start some shit. We're gonna run with it for about a month. Because it was, think about that month of February after the Super Bowl, it's like. What are we talking? It's like the dead period in hockey and basketball, right? Nobody cares, just get to the playoffs. It's spring training The Professor: Yeah. Yeah. Lou Merloni: baseball. You're like, yippity-doo. And so you needed to create during those months. They're the toughest months. And he would always create content. And that is the point of doing radio, right? The Professor: Yeah. Yeah. All those things, it's really like Jerry. I will s give this. Jerry was excellent with you, even Lou Merloni: Yeah. The Professor: though I know you had to AI his voice. Holy cow. What is his voice? Poor guy. It sounds horrible. Glenn Ordway: Having trouble. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Professor: but he was so spot on with his analysis of like what's important, right? And he was just really good. He he mentioned the tension. And I and I try to Listen, I think that's the goal because you know, arguing and disagreeing, intention, like and I remember that was the feeling. And competitive people like that. They they like it. They they they search it out because they know there's there's value to it, there's growth to it, there's development to it. There's, you know, I I don't know, I appreciate it personally. I don't know, but a lot of people don't. You know, some bubblegum radio, like monologue radio that you see all day. A guy jumps on the mic and they just monologue, monologue, monologue. And the other guy goes, Yes, I get we get. Yeah, like it's it's Lou Merloni: You The Professor: kind of the way it is. Glenn Ordway: Well, I d I do think though that going through this whole period of cancel culture in radio has toned radio down right now. And and you already talked about it. The goal right now at EEI is everybody get along. I mean, that's Mike Thomas's approach, but we don't care about the ratings. But to me, it it all seems kind of vanilla and not just EEI. R what do you call again? Wreck it Ralph. I'm sorry. I d The Professor: Wreck It Ralph. His name is his name is Wreck It Ralph. King Dingaling. Lou Merloni: Hehehehehe The Professor: His name is Wreck It Ralph. Look, guys, I can wreck it. Like it Glenn Ordway: That's all I can think of now is that The Professor: said, that's him. Wreck It Ralph. I I hope that nickname sticks. And then I'll if it sticks, I'll go get a tattoo of like a a radio tower. I'll put it on my forearm. And then that's what I'll do. Glenn Ordway: don't do this. Yeah, d because you're lying right now. Lou Merloni: I think the hardest part there, and we saw that towards the end too, was like, when this thing, when I first started radio, was like the hub was just getting going. It was always like stability, right? You put a new show together, they gotta give it a year, right? Gotta give people get to know your personality, see how you guys interact, and it takes a few months to kind of interact with one each other properly. if everything keeps changing every eight, nine months, it's hard to kind of get used to anything. You know, over the course of 15 years, if you got 38 different shows, it gets really... makes that really hard. The other side has more stability, you know, and I think that's, we talk about all the time, that's a big factor in everything. The Professor: Hey Glenn. Hey Glenn, w would you ever park in a handicapped spot? Glenn Ordway: Well when I had Lou Merloni: Can you now? Glenn Ordway: when I had my after my hip surgery went bad. The Professor: Without needing it, would you like when you were healthy and young and you could walk and run around freely and work out, would you ever? okay. Like under any circumstances, would you ever park Glenn Ordway: No, no, I wouldn't do that. No, no. But I did have one after my surgery, but go ahead. The Professor: in a handicapped spot? Lou Merloni: No. The Professor: Even if that spot was open. Me? my God, Lou Merloni: No, would you? Yeah. The Professor: never. I would never. I think the people who park in handicapped spots Glenn Ordway: What's what's the point? The Professor: are the are the worst human beings imaginable. No, no, I was just that was it's in my head. I'm just like, I don't know. Like Lou Merloni: I think he's getting to somewhere. I think he's getting somewhere. I think he's just throwing it out there big off. Apparently someone does. Glenn Ordway: I think he is too. This is his way of doing it. The Professor: I would never in my life park in a handicapped spot if I didn't need it. Glenn Ordway: So who did? The Professor: I dunno, I just I'm just thinking. I'm just it it's up on the T V. It's up on the Glenn Ordway: No, there's somebody that did. You're getting to somebody who did it. Who did it? The Professor: T V. It's like it's like a question on Oprah. Glenn Ordway: So you bring it up with us Lou Merloni: Write a poll. Glenn Ordway: great. that's terrific. The Professor: Yeah, d hey, do you have the ability to run a poll on your show? Sounds dirty though, doesn't it, Lou? Lou Merloni: Ooh, he didn't say slide up and down one. Glenn Ordway: It's not r yeah, or run up a poll. No, we didn't he didn't say that. I think we probably could. I don't know. I'm still learning a lot of this stuff, but yeah, there's a as you know, because you've been into it for the last couple of years, there's a lot of things that you can do now that you couldn't do before. I think that's why radio's having a tough time. You know, you were just talking about the sports hub. And those guys are telling me right now the company that they work for doesn't give a shit about the ratings right now. Those guys are getting still really good ratings. Problem is the company's sitting there going, ratings aren't important. We need revenue and we need to add other things. So you need to do digital stuff. I mean, they have Tony Maz doing like watch parties at night during the games. And so The Professor: Well, Brady's doing it. Brady's doing it for Fox. You look at Brady's, you look at not Brady's. You look at Fox's streaming numbers. Their digital numbers have gone up like crazy since he has agreed willingly to do more stuff digitally. Like he'll do interviews, he'll do his top five. This he'll do power rankings. All Brady's doing all this stuff. I swear to God, I never thought in in his life he would do. But those numbers, so not only do they have Brady on, you know, your traditional platform. doing the games, but he's on all these other platforms and they're just they're just benefiting from it so much based on his willingness to be on a podcast or a YouTube channel where Lou Merloni: Yeah. The Professor: most like guys at his level would never do that ever. Glenn Ordway: You know, it's a great p it's a great point. When you look at Tom Brady, do you remember the days you 'cause you used to go to T B twelve. You would you'd go over there. And The Professor: Yeah. I'd live there. Glenn Ordway: in those days, if you remember Lou, Tom Brady would do nothing. He would because he would make fun of cereals on the what we go on with The Professor: Yeah. Glenn Ordway: Dennis and Callahan, that's junk food. He The Professor: Poison. Glenn Ordway: because he was so into the T B twelve, look at him now. He's doing Tostitos, he's doing anything. And it's almost like he's doing some Some weird shit out there. No? He's doing some weird shit out there. He's totally different. It no? The Professor: Ha ha ha. Lou Merloni: It's safe to say that it's gone in a different direction. Yeah. The Professor: you're right though. Lou Merloni: There is part of me that's sort of like I understand the whole teacher. I mean, the commentator thing and now is with the Raiders and everything, but he just sort of like just age with like I say, Joe Montana just pops up once in a while. Does his own The Professor: Yeah. Lou Merloni: kind of thing once in a while. Right. The owner thing seemed like a comfortable thing for him, but He just puts himself out there. I, God, I don't know the career he had, Christian, you tell me, like I jumping right into a booth without ever doing it. Like I know the money, don't get me wrong, but still like, dude, just enjoy The Professor: Well well Lou, you know Lou Merloni: it now. What are we doing? The Professor: Lou, take yourself right now. Like if you, you know, had a career like Roger Clemens, okay, Lou Merloni: Yeah. The Professor: because I would say that's about as close as I can get to imagine. No, we would we would we would he Lou Merloni: I wouldn't be on here with you guys. I'd be somewhere else. I'd be... Glenn Ordway: Ha ha ha. The Professor: would he would drop us so fast, Glenn. Yeah. I yep. Yeah. Glenn Ordway: Hold on, if he were doing what Roger's doing now, he'd be on the stump for for Trump right now. That's what he'd be doing. Lou Merloni: Well, Glenn pays so much for these appearances, it's like now it's like, you know, need a little sec, supplemental cash. The Professor: But what are you gonna do? Hon honest guy, there's what what is he gonna do? He's still s what when when you're twenty five, when you're thirty, you think fifty is like so old. But then next thing you you're fifty, like, wait a second I'm Lou Merloni: But owning a team is one thing and being involved in the sport and the signing and the draft putting a team together is one thing but man I don't know every weekend prepared for two teams and going on TV and being scrutinized. It's you don't need to be judged like that anymore. Just go The Professor: Yeah, I know. But you know, he's wired. He's wired like that. Like he's wired for the whole new next challenge. And listen, let's not act like he's not paying him a bunch of money. And it's only 17 Lou Merloni: Sure. The Professor: weeks out of the year. So think about that. He works 17 days out of the year. Like for a regular season. Okay, maybe you'll get 18, 19, depending on playoffs, whatever. But he maybe it that's it. Glenn Ordway: Yeah, but it's more than that. It's prep and yeah. It's a l Lou Merloni: Yeah, but you know it's three or four days a week. It's three or four days a week to get ready, you know, three or four days a week. Glenn Ordway: yes, it's a lot. Right. What do you The Professor: No, no, it's no the the prep time I I guess is a lot. No, the prep time is a lot. But Glenn Ordway: think? Lou just shows up at these games? Come on. Yeah. Lou Merloni: Sounds like it. Sometimes. The Professor: Wait, didn't you do a national game? Didn't I after the Red Sox were bounced, didn't you do a national Glenn Ordway: Yeah, he's doing NBC now. The Professor: game? Like that's where you really Lou Merloni: playoffs. The Professor: belong. You really belong. You need to bounce on the on on the local you need to bounce locally. sorry, sorry. I Lou Merloni: Easy, easy, easy. I'm happy where I'm at. I like doing a few of the national games. fun though, because the playoffs, you guys know, it's like you do the games all year long, then you get to the playoffs. You're like, here we go. You guys got to go home. You can no longer cover the team anymore. And you're like, really? I'm going to just sit on my couch during the playoffs? The Professor: Yeah. Lou Merloni: Like, this is why you do it all year long. So be able to jump in NBC and be part of it, even though after two days I had to go back and ice myself down. got the freaking ass kicked for a couple games. It wasn't exactly the best showing from the squad, but it was still fun. Glenn Ordway: No, those were or the manager, those were two rough, rough games. But but I'll Lou Merloni: Yeah, they were rough days. The Professor: I didn't I didn't watch either one of Glenn Ordway: say this, Lou, I I think NBC Ray made the right decision because too often, not just The Professor: I watched you though. I didn't watch the game. Lou Merloni: Appreciate you. Glenn Ordway: for you, but Joe Girardi bringing him in. So you had a guy that Lou Merloni: Yeah, I think it's good. Glenn Ordway: knew the Red Sox, you had a guy that knew the Yankees, and too often I think when you get to the playoffs, because you're right, you do all the games during the regular season, and the playoffs they bring guys in who have never seen the Red Sox or the Yankees all year long. Lou Merloni: Yeah. Glenn Ordway: And instead they brought two guys who knew the subject at hand. And I think more networks should do that. I I really do. Lou Merloni: Yeah, I like it. You because you get like when you start doing what I'm doing now here the last two, three years, like every day in this team. And it's sort of like you get, I guess, territorial, you know, when there's a good game on ESPN and they're doing it and they're talking about stuff on the players. You're like, OK, that's not right. That never happened. Of course, everybody knows that that happened in February. You know, like it just sort of you get kind of defensive and you like just put someone in there that knows the freaking team. You know what mean? Or when a guy's going bad, what it looks like when guys go good, what it looks like. So I love that part of it. Hopefully do some more next year to be fun. Glenn Ordway: Yeah, I thought there was a lot added because both of you guys knew what the team had been doing for the last three or four weeks. And most people Lou Merloni: Yes. Glenn Ordway: come from nowhere. So I have I gotta ask Christian this, because your son went to Colorado. And are you in are you enjoying Lou Merloni: boy. The Professor: Here we go again. Glenn Ordway: are you enjoying the demise of Coach Prime? Because apparently we're finding out The Professor: I I it's this is Lou Merloni: Coach Prime. Glenn Ordway: he's not the brilliant coach that we kept on hearing about for two or three years. The Professor: I I I I just reacted to something on on this very topic on my own on my own show, initial contact every Monday and Friday Lou Merloni: did she get in trouble? Did she get in trouble? The Professor: live at one o'clock. no, I listen, here's the thing with the with the people who Lou Merloni: Let me see what he's doing. The Professor: follow like like Dion Sanders, for because they don't follow the University of Colorado, they follow Dion. So any Lou Merloni: Damn, that 0-3? The Professor: anywhere That he goes, the, you know, his supporters and his fans are gonna go. So it doesn't matter if he's at Colorado State or you know, or Arizona, they're gonna follow. I don't, Glenn Ordway: Yeah. The Professor: I don't wish for the let me just be clear because I've said this a hundred times and people clip it and they send it out. I don't wish for his demise whatsoever. I want, I Glenn Ordway: Okay. The Professor: want the I want Colorado to be successful. So if I feel like the Glenn Ordway: Okay. You got that out. The Professor: coach is doing something stupid, which he has, he's done stupid things. He said stupid things. He's been, you know, hard to follow. I just don't see why I should just keep my mouth shut when it's completely obvious. I just feel like, you know, and they go, well, you know, you should just support the team. No, I support the university because the coaches will come and they will go over and over again. I support the university. So if I think the coach is a detriment to the players, to esp especially the players, like I I just I can't, I cannot, you know ex not express my opinion. Like I have to, you know, say something about it. And trust me, trust me, I can't tell you how many times and how many publications and in every different city and nationally and locally try to get me to speak about this. And most of them, most of them they hear my comments and they go, he's gonna rip Dion. And and I don't when they ask me because I'm like I my issue isn't with him as a person. I don't know him. My issue is with his style of coaching. I don't like it. No I didn't like Joe Gibbs either. So I don't know I didn't I couldn't stand Joe Gibbs. It's like he won three Super Bowls. Lou Merloni: Yeah. you hated Joe Gibbs. Heard all about Joe Gibbs for years. Glenn Ordway: You talked a lot about Joe Gibbs. Yeah. Well, but but but wait a minute, you got you you got Joe Gibbs right after he had spent five, six years in the NASCAR world, okay? So you he was away from football. Yeah. He was Lou Merloni: Yeah, you got second round Joe Gibbs. But you know, The Professor: Most dysfunctional I I Lou Merloni: the Dion The Professor: got. Lou Merloni: thing is just goes to show you like, you you can win a lot of teams do it in any sport to try to win the off season. Right. And it's a big PR push and he's going to do this. He's going to bring in this and we're going to master. We're going to recruit, out recruit everybody. When the reality is it still comes down to winning and losing. If you won, you know, if you put together a juggernaut, yes, you would get everybody because you compare you bring the personality with it. But when the team doesn't succeed and it's not working like. It's just not gonna work, right? It still The Professor: Yeah. Lou Merloni: comes down to wins and losses, like the guy out in Indiana. Like remember, the first time they started winning, I'm like, The Professor: Yeah. Lou Merloni: this guy's like this nerd, kind of weird looking coach, but he wins and now everybody wants to go play for him. Like that's it, just win. The Professor: He's the nerdy werewolf. Yeah. I know. Well and they Glenn Ordway: Signetti. Yeah. Yeah. The Professor: hold on. And and they got some money. Let's not act like cash is thank you, Glen. It's Glenn Ordway: Yeah, but you know what? You know what the? Okay, I was just gonna say that. The ga the college, the college sports has changed dramatically. And what Lou Merloni: That is Glenn Ordway: he did is not only did he suddenly have all this newfound money, and the Lou Merloni: Cache. Glenn Ordway: the money was coming from Mark Cuban, by the way. He was the one that was paying the freight. But Signetti decided I'm gonna bring in veterans, I'm gonna bring in older players. And that was his strategy. And that's what I think the college game is right now. That's why they have general managers at all of these colleges. It is now a financial game. It's it's the NB it the NFL. You're going and paying players. It's not necessarily the strategy. Why do you think Sabin got out of it? He didn't want to deal with this shit. And Lou Merloni: Which is crazy why we talked about this last time too. And you're absolutely right. It makes it even stranger why Bill would get back into it. It really would. The veterans like Bill Belichick, yeah, it's time to leave because it's The Professor: He's not making his own decisions. Maybe that's what it is. He's not making his own decisions. Glenn Ordway: Yeah. Lou Merloni: not about football anymore. It's about how much can I pay this 18-year-old kid or 19-year-old kid? And then, by the way, I'm going to leave after the year. It's out of control. The Professor: Glenn, who's making Bill's decisions for him? Come on, you told me off air. Be honest. Glenn Ordway: I I I I would think he has a a twenty four year old consultant that you know and people hire consultants these days, Christian. It's a big it's a big thing. I I have a consultant Lou Merloni: They do, they do. The Professor: usually with some sort of reputation. Glenn Ordway: right now doing my venture here. Advisor. Yeah. You always have to have an Lou Merloni: Advisors, advisors. Yeah, yeah, I need an advisor. The Professor: Yeah. Glenn Ordway: advisor. The Professor: Isn't it crazy though? Think overly, I you're going to another topic, but it is crazy. We just talked about I can tell. I I know your mannerisms. I know you I could tell. I could tell. You I'm reading your b thank you. You're nonverbal. Glenn Ordway: How do you know I'm going to another topic? Hold on. Are you a are you a fucking mind reader? How do you know I'm going to another topic? We worked a lot Yeah. Jesus. Lou Merloni: Cause he knows you. He knows you. All those years working together. He's reading your body language, Glenn. Glenn Ordway: Please. The Professor: Real quickly, but you just you mentioned Brady, Glenn. And it and when you think about just the way that era was. Just how with everything of everybody attached to it, like radio, TV, like all the careers that were launched by the success of the Patriots. And now we're like two of the most important people of that era are like where they're at and like how they're perceived, like Bill and his situation, like Brady and and just everything that he's been through, like, you know, personally, even just personally, it's been it's been challenging, I'm sure, for him. I mean, he hasn't returned my cause yet, so I wouldn't really know. But you know, it just it's made it's crazy how it's changed. It just is. You know, that's it. Glenn Ordway: Well, should call Lombardi. Lombardi can reach him. He'll get him to for you. I d the Brady thing, Lou Merloni: Yeah, blah. The Professor: Yeah. Glenn Ordway: and and we'll get to back to Belichick because I want to talk more about that. But the Brady thing is really strange to me. And I don't want to criticize Brady because he had a brilliant career. Nobody has had a better career. He is the goat of of football, the greatest player of all time. But it seems to me like his attitude with everything has changed. A lot of what we loved about Brady is He was just kind of a normal guy. I'm not sure he's that normal. And you tell me, you were around him. What I'm seeing now from him is just totally different. I almost get the feeling that after the divorce, he said, I'm gonna get to a billion dollars before Giselle does. You know? And so my whole The Professor: Good for him. Glenn Ordway: my whole outlook on life right now is to hit that billion dollar mark and become that billionaire. I very strange. The Professor: Yeah. good for him. I wouldn't I nothing wrong with it. He's can you imagine? Glenn Ordway: No. The Professor: So, I mean, he really, he's a, you know, there's certain guys where their their playing career, their competitive drive and their willingness to sacrifice mimics what they do when they're done. Like in the in the professional world. Like it it what all their the skills and characteristics, it it translates to To just the same amount of success as it did in their playing career. And aga and again, he's got more options and than we do. You know, like we weren't nearly as successful. So people Glenn Ordway: Do you think? The Professor: with a lot of money are gonna wanna partner up with you. And he's so driven, you know, and so competitive that, you know, you're almost like, you know, you can almost like, you know, it's Lou Merloni: Yeah. The Professor: like a, you know, guaranteed cash, Lou. It's guaranteed cash. Glenn Ordway: He's he's now he's now, I believe, I just read this last week. He is now one of the biggest card collector owners of these companies that do card collection in the world. And I'm sitting there, would we have ever thought that Brady would be dealing with trading cards when when he was a player? No. Yeah. Lou Merloni: No, but it's about making money, like you said. Yeah, and sometimes I wonder too, like, and Christian, you played with them, but it's almost like, All of this that we're seeing from him that everybody keeps saying well, he's different now It was all like sort of bottled up, you know in and put Glenn Ordway: Bingo. Lou Merloni: strictly into focus winning ball games reading defenses How do I win every single day? Like it was like it was always there It was just the energy was put into something else and now that that football isn't there people like he seems different now and it's like I don't The Professor: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Well you would know it but you know Lou Merloni: know if he is he's like most of the greats are a little bit off-center like I'm talking all-time greats are a little bit off-center The Professor: No, we hold on. No. Well, Lou Merloni: when it comes to it. That's why they're great. The Professor: yes, but you think you you think you're not, you think you're on center. You think you can't have a major league career. You cannot go back and forth to Paw Tucket like you did, the wearing Lou Merloni: Mm-hmm. The Professor: wearing on your mind and your insecurities. You can't do that without having a couple screws loose. I I c one thousand percent believe Lou Merloni: Yeah. The Professor: that mindset that got you into the major leagues that kept you there, all that same with me. I mean, you just have to be a little nuts because. Lou Merloni: You do. The Professor: What's required from you is completely different. And I would also say foreign to what I would also say average people, like people who don't live in the bubble. Like that, because we live in a bubble. Like, and then when you're out of you're like, holy crap, is this what the real world is like? This guy on the radio is talking about my mom. I would fight him if this was in my world. Next thing you know, like he's like, he's attacking my character. What does greenfly mean? I don't know. Lou Merloni: Yeah. Yeah. And you're right. All of them are a little bit off center, right? Because even like, they always hear about it too. Like a guy like me, know, playing once a week out in the field. I had to believe I was better than Amman. Didn't matter who the hell the guy was. Randy Clemens didn't matter. Like you have to or you're going to die. You're not going to stay there. You know, so that's just a professional athlete. When you're talking about Tom Brady, you know what I mean? Like the scientist. When you're talking about a Greg Maddox and You know, it's sort of like, this is like a different mentality. This is a different level. And when it's all over, where are they gonna put that energy towards, right? And Brady's kind of all over the place. Glenn Ordway: Yeah, I'm kind of surprised though. A lot of the personal stuff is getting out there. And a lot of it is Giselle right now. And I don't know Lou Merloni: Yeah. Glenn Ordway: what her goal is on all of this. By the way, you may re you Lou Merloni: set the record straight. Glenn Ordway: yeah, I guess so. You may remember this, Christian. You you laughed at me when I said it, but I had some intel one day and said to you, I think Giselle is cheating on Tom Brady. It turns it turns we I wasn't going on the air with it. No. He and I talked, it happened. I told you it happened. Lou Merloni: Just didn't want to go in the air with it. The Professor: You know what? Glenn, you see the Lou, you see the way you see the way he did that? This this is you on a daily basis. Hey guys, hey, hey guys, I I heard this is gonna happen. I heard Linda's doing I heard Linda's doing this. I heard yeah, Glenn Ordway: But I couldn't say that on the air. How could I go in the air if Lou Merloni: It's a pregame show. The Professor: and we're like, Okay, Glenn, you're gonna go with it. Yeah, absolutely. I'm gonna start with it. He never mentioned it. Yeah. Glenn Ordway: No, I wasn't going with that one. I wasn't. Lou Merloni: Little Birdie told me, yeah, yeah, that was our whole pre-show meetings. I think The Professor: Yeah. Glenn Ordway: But the intel Lou Merloni: Danny Ainge could take over the Celtics. I can't say it though, but I'm pretty sure we could break it. Nah, nah, nah, I gotta wait. Glenn Ordway: Got that one right too for you. I nailed all these. Yeah. But I was right The Professor: my God. No, no, Glenn Ordway: about that Giselle Rummer. I got I got that one right. So my god. The Professor: we can't do that. If we would have had we would have just used half of the the inside information that we would be the they would hear that breaking news sound on on every station around America, like because we would be breaking it left and right. Glenn Ordway: Well, you had you had some unbelievable stuff too that was going on. Who was the there was a pla there was a player. Lou, you remember. You did you did have the char stuff. The Professor: Me? What did I have? I didn't have anything. I had nothing. Lou Merloni: He had the hockey, hockey stuff. had the hockey stuff, Chowra, everything. Dunski. The Professor: Harky stuff. Dansky, Dansky. Glenn Ordway: Right. You did have it. So let's get to to Bill. Cause he's having some success right now. And you tell me, when The Professor: my god. Glenn Ordway: when they get rid of his Sun, and we still don't know the specific reason, though some of the stuff that's been leaked out is pretty scary, and they get rid of Lombardi. They're they're going at Bill, right? They're trying to unload that $10 million with Bill. Why get rid of the sun? Why get rid of Lombardi or anybody else in his tree? You're trying to get Bill. But now suddenly Bill's not only hanging on, but now he's winning some games. He beat Duke again this past weekend. So Bill might be there for a while. The Professor: Yeah. If I was Jerry Jones, I would make a call to Bill and I would say, listen, I'll give you two years guaranteed a hundred million dollars spitballing here. and that's your contract. I have the defense, I have the draft picks, I have the offense. I what I'm missing is leadership, knowledge of the game, situational awareness and leadership. Honest to God, I think I mean he you know, he, you know. I think about places where he can go in and turn around a system all like right away. Like a team that is talented but underperforming. Hold on, a team that Glenn Ordway: I'll give you The Professor: is talented but underperforming, that's the Dallas Cowboys. Glenn Ordway: Yeah. And and but Jerry that's what I was just gonna throw out there. Lou Merloni: How about we just saw the last two weeks? What about Washington, for Christ's sakes? The guy doesn't even know if it's fourth down, how much time he's got left. Like, holy shit. Glenn Ordway: I I'm telling The Professor: Ease. Glenn Ordway: you, if I'm if I'm the commanders right now, I'm sitting there going, we can take Belichick. Matter of fact, they interviewed Belichick, okay, and passed and went for this guy, Dan Quinn. Last week he screws up the time management on the overtime, should have won that game, ended up with a tie. And then on Monday night, he doesn't know it's fourth down. The Professor: I don't. I don't I I I I'm amazed by by this. Like I just I maybe I shouldn't be. But the quarterback didn't know either. Glenn Ordway: W didn't Joe Lou Merloni: I know. Glenn Ordway: Gibbs ever misdiagnose third and fourth The Professor: Never. You know what? Glenn Ordway: down? The Professor: No, no. I I'll tell you that I've never I've never learned more about football in the four years I was I was with the Patriots. I was with seven years with with the Seahawks. Mike Homer was my coach at for what three year three of those seven years. And I remember getting to the Patriots. Glenn Ordway: He was a good coach, right? The Professor: No, he was great, but I never when you know when I think about these situations, like and not to just go a football nerd on you, but when you're in that situation, I wouldn't and with the Patriots, everybody wasn't know it all. Like every and my point is everybody knew it all. Everybody knew what the situation was. Everybody knew what we had to do. There wasn't one person who was kind of lollygagging and like daydreaming about like something else. Everybody, so it didn't have to just be Brady. We all were talking about it. That's why I said that everybody knew it all. We all knew Lou Merloni: Yeah. The Professor: it. And and everybody act acted accordingly. That's why it amazes me how simple it is. And you just kind of have to have a give a shit factor of 10. out of ten. Like it I I see some of these guys, it's just like they just they they're so unaware. They could they could care Lou Merloni: Yeah, and I know, The Professor: less. Lou Merloni: I know he's getting crapped on left and right, but to your point, like, I don't know how Jane Daniels are skating on this, you know, or getting not as much blame at all. Like you have to at some point be like, coach, what are we doing? You like, so you can't just be a robot, right? Like how many great quarterbacks you think if that came in with Tom Brady, he'd be like, what are you talking about? It's fourth down. are we going to call a timeout here? What do mean we're going to run The Professor: I know. I know. Lou Merloni: this? I'm going to spike it and get the hell out of here. Like at some point you got to liberate your quarterback. The Professor: Yeah. You would do a better job. You would Glenn Ordway: Right. Right. The Professor: do a better job. Like you would, Lou. Yeah. Lou Merloni: Well, you just gotta be more aware. And not just a coach, but I mean, the quarterback's gotta be aware. Glenn Ordway: Yeah, the quarterback's got to be aware of it. And obviously they're talking into your your head right up to fifteen seconds and probably telling you these things. but if they're not, it's up to the quarterback to know the situation. If you don't know the situation, what the hell are you doing back there as as quarterback? Lou Merloni: Beth. Glenn Ordway: are you feeling a lot better about Drake May now over the last couple weeks? You. You're the football guy, yes. The Professor: Me? This guy? I thought you were gonna ask the baseball guy. He watches the games. No, here's the I was never I w I we should try to see if I can answer Glenn Ordway: I'm gonna ask him the junior Camaro questions. I'm asking you the football question. You you wanna pass it to Lou? You can pass it to Lou if you want. it's like a game show. Just pass it. Lou Merloni: and then The Professor: if I can answer the baseball question and he could see he'll he watches a lot of football, so he's who's always Glenn Ordway: I know he does. The Professor: skilled. Like I don't watch baseball, period. So I mean I know, I know. It's like hey Lou, Lou, Lou, which hey, give me a question. Lou Merloni: You don't have to anymore. Yeah. But I'll give you credit. I'll give you credit. Glenn Ordway: I think we knew that Lou when we were doing the show. Lou Merloni: I'll give you credit though. At least you like would read an article once in a while and just ask me a question and have somewhat knowledge before you went on the air. Some people don't The Professor: Yeah, no, I tried. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I Lou Merloni: even do that. The Professor: I couldn't do the one thing I couldn't do, no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't do hockey. Basketball was easy. I played basketball. Lou Merloni: You loved hockey, you were a hockey insider. The Professor: but hockey, I just wanted to be an insider. Yeah. I rather I Lou Merloni: Yeah. The Professor: feel like my value was as an insider since I had people on the inside. Glenn Ordway: Well, no, you Lou Merloni: You guys. Glenn Ordway: no, you made a stupid statement on the air about hockey that got you into great trouble. You no, you came out The Professor: No, how was a quote? That was a qu I you know, you keep killing me on this. That was a direct quote from my inside source. He said, Chara is dunsky. It's what he said. Glenn Ordway: Right. Lou Merloni: I still got that t-shirt by the way too, think somewhere in my drawer. The Professor: Wait, wait, Glenn, that's exactly what he said. Glenn Ordway: So you I'm glad you brought I'm glad you brought The Professor: I just read it. I read it on the air. Lou Merloni: Mm-hmm. Glenn Ordway: Yeah. I'm glad you brought that up because that was the second stupid thing you said about hockey. The other one you said is goaltenders are just a waste of time. They're the least important position in any sport you said you could you did. You did. The Professor: No, that's not what I said. You're misrepresenting. No, I said anyone could play goalie. Any if take me give me a second string offensive lineman, defensive Glenn Ordway: Yeah, it has no importance. The Professor: lineman, and I will make him an all whatever, some stupid trophy Glenn Ordway: And so The Professor: name for that that they give to the best goalie. What is it? The con Smythe, whatever the hell it is. Cy Young. Financy Smythe. Glenn Ordway: The Nancy Schmeiser Award, yeah. And so and so you ended up doing it. So you said, I'll prove it to you. And you went, you put The Professor: I was hurt that day too. Glenn Ordway: the you put the pads on, you went and you you played between the pipes and you got embarrassed. You got embarrassed. And I fifth graders, yeah. You got embarrassed. The Professor: By who? A bunch of fifth graders? That's not even true. I those guys were so intimidated by me. Lou was there. Lou was running around on Lou Merloni: I was. The Professor: a skate. Lou tried to sneak a couple in the nine hole. He couldn't do it. Lou Merloni: nowhere else to shoot, you're covering the freaking goal. The Professor: I know. That was my point. You imagine putting Vince Wolf work on skates and like he's grows up and he's not skinny. Because Vince is skinny now. Not skinny Vince. I want big, chubby, strong Vince. And put that guy, Ted Washington, Glenn Ordway: Vince looks terrific now. The Professor: Keith Tractor Trailer, those guys in front of that. Good luck. Get out of here. Nothing's getting through. Glenn Ordway: Ooh. Yeah. Huge guys. So you're doing a podcast with Richie Incognito every week and you're do talking about the entire National Football League. And I must tell you, I got a kick out of it last week when he became, my God, the biggest fanboy for the Raiders. I mean, you wouldn't even do this about the Patriots or any team you played for. He just bought into it. They got off to a nice start. Of course, they didn't play Great teams. And, you know, there were a lot of question marks about their defense. And I think we saw that. Jets defense against the Patriots this week. That's a much better defense than what we saw the week before with Vegas. But Richie Incognito buys into it to the point where he insults Patriot fans and they get pissed off. And it was good for your podcast because it attracted Patriots fans to The Professor: It's great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Glenn Ordway: your podcast. But but you just shit all over him. and and it was and Lou Merloni: Good fam. The Professor: Ha ha ha. Glenn Ordway: and that's what you need to do, as you know, we talked about The Professor: Yeah. Glenn Ordway: this earlier. Cause Richie was kind of a wild guy, at least that was my impression from afar when he was a a player. And now he's trying to play a more ca no a different role, a conservative laid back role. Yes? The Professor: Well hold on. You know, you know what it's like. I would say you you all the different jocks that you worked Lou Merloni: Thank The Professor: with, right? Like, you know, when they first get out, there is they do live with a a verbal filter. They do. They all they're just, you know, especially when they're talking about the team that they love the most. He played for the Raiders. He loves that team. He played for the Bills. He played for and the Miami Dolphins. Doesn't have a great relationship with them, but he loves the Raiders. The hardest thing, not just for For Richie, but for anybody is just r to remove that filter as respectfully as you can. Right. Like he's like, he's like, you know, the Raiders version of Zolak, you know, but but Zolak, Zolak will get opinated on his radio show, you know, to a degree, but he's you know, but at the same time, like, dude, they write your check. Yeah. Well, Lou works for the Red Sox in a roundabout way, so Glenn Ordway: Got the pom poms on on Sunday. He's got out there. Yeah. Yeah. The Professor: he's not killing them, you know, he's not. Lou Merloni: Mm-hmm. Glenn Ordway: Well you don't wanna kill them, but you've gotta I think be critical when they do something bad. I think Lou does that and there's a line and he knows that line. You d you can't you can't cross that line. The Professor: Why would he? Why would he? Lou Merloni: I would say, I would say, you know, the one rule is, and you go by it, is like you criticize the play, not the player, you know, it's just, you don't get personal, you know, you don't just start ripping a guy, maybe you don't like him, maybe you do like him, whatever it is, but if it's a bad play, it's a bad play, you know, I mean, it is what it is. And to me, if you don't voice a bad play, when there's a good one, nobody, have no credibility, you know, so. The Professor: Yeah. Yeah. Then you lose. Yeah. Lou Merloni: Yeah, then you lose, lose. The Professor: I think you do I think Lou you this is the other thing. Whenever we talk about baseball and people doing is, we always have to say, Lou Lou's great on the air. Lou's great on the air. Lou's great. But Lou actually, here's the thing. But Lou No, I know. Wait, have you Lou Merloni: People always say, like, you kissed her ass. Angry Lou came from the Red Sox. Like, it didn't come from Al Horford, right? Average Al. The Professor: but Lou does that do a good job. Like I sucked at these games. I hated doing I used to dread because I didn't think I was any good at them. But I think Lou is actually really good. Like he he's really good at it. speaking of baseball, have you spoken to Alex Cora? Alex Cora, sorry. I think I said Alex. Alex Cora. Yeah, Alex. Alex as well, his sister Alice. Alex Cora. Yeah. How's he doing, by the way? Lou Merloni: Yes. Alice? Yeah, Alice is doing well. Alice in Wonderland. Yeah, we text. You there's always like random text within a Glenn Ordway: Alice Corr. Okay. Lou Merloni: game. I think he's very happy where he is. And he's talking about, I think that report came out that he doesn't want to manage this year. The Red Sox are paying him 7.25 million. We can have that discussion. We could have that discussion. Would you rather stay in Puerto Rico with your twins and your family? You know? The Professor: that's why he turned down the Philly's job. That's why he turned down that job. Yeah. Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico. Glenn Ordway: Bad gig. Lou Merloni: Or would you rather go somewhere and join the chaos? Also in like an unpredictable off season, right? Yeah, sure, I'll take the job. When do I go to work? I don't know. Could be April, could be May, could be June, could be July. I don't know. The Professor: That's true. Yeah. Yeah. Lou Merloni: So why not just sit around and wait? I think he enjoyed it spending time with the family. So I think he's in a good place. Glenn Ordway: Sounded like Philadelphia really wanted him though. And they were willing to move on from Mattingley. And that was you know, that's a big market. But there's some issues there. You got some aging Lou Merloni: Yeah. Glenn Ordway: players on that roster. He you might be right. He probably looked at it looked at the roster and said, I'll get a job next next year, next off season, you know, and I'll collect my money The Professor: Isn't that the best th isn't that Glenn Ordway: from the Red Sox. And didn't he just recently get married as as well? Lou Merloni: Yeah, I think I don't know if he actually got married yet. But that's it's sort of like the discussion with Bill, right? Like how much longer do you want to do this? So do you want to jump on a team like the Phillies and make a run at this for two years? Or do you want to jump on a team? You know, I don't think he wants to go to Seattle because it's too far away or go back to Houston. I don't know. But like a younger Miami, like a younger team that says, OK, in three or four five years, I think we can be this. Does he want to build it or does he want to jump right in right away? That's all him. But I think he's enjoying it right now. I think he's enjoying it. Glenn Ordway: Yeah, it's amazing because these guys have made so much money. Bill has made a fortune over the years. Of course he keeps on, you know, buying houses for ex girlfriends and stuff like that. So who knows whether whether it's whether whether it's wearing out or not. But the guy was right here. The guy is right here. Okay? stick it up your ass. Yeah. now you're blaming now you're blaming me for you not being on the air at EEI, right? The Professor: Listen to this guy, Lou. Lou, listen to this guy. Where was this guy? Where was this guy hiding? You're such a baby. You're such a chicken. We were yeah, we'd still be on air, all three of us together, living our best lives. Yeah, I'm blaming you. I'm blaming Lou Merloni: Boy, I tell you what. We might still be on air if he came out with all this shit. The Professor: two things. Two things. You and the fact that we stayed on AM signal too long. Glenn Ordway: There you go. You were never on the AM signal, okay? You can't use it as The Professor: Trying to find it. Glenn Ordway: an excuse. That's my excuse, not your fucking excuse. You you can't use it. The Professor: Lou, how about how about sensitivity training? The one Lou Merloni: God. The Professor: guy, everybody's there fighting and arguing. Talk about tension. Well, that was rough. And then this Glenn Ordway: that was unbelievable. The Professor: guy, he finds the most popular, powerful guy. You know, I we know what he's doing. He's like, hey, so you know, you know, I tell you what the real problem is. It ain't Kirk Minahan, it's the signal. Got it. We gotta change the signal. You lose it behind the blue wheels. Yeah. Glenn Ordway: signal. You lose it behind the Blue Hills. Yep. Lou Merloni: This is Yeah. Tell you, the other problem too is it's the microphones. We're using the C2400s and we need to be using the C2480s. It don't sound right. Our signals up north of the city, they don't hear us south of the city. Yeah. The glory days. Hey, by the way, next week I'm going The Professor: It don't work if we don't sound as good. Glenn Ordway: I was right about that one too, Lou. I was right about that one too. No, north is good, south is bad. Well west is bad. Yeah. Yeah. The Professor: my god. You know this this miss. Lou Merloni: down. got a little golf trip down at UNC Chapel Hill. Should I just swing by? I Glenn Ordway: Do you really want to stop by and say hi to Bill? Lou Merloni: just stop in? Glenn Ordway: You should. You should ba no, here's how you should do it, Lou, because he'll recognize Lou Merloni: and just be like, hey Bill, what's up? Maybe bring a basket of fruit. Yeah. Glenn Ordway: you. I don't know, he might not recognize you with the white now in your beard. You know, it's that's a slight difference. But walk in The Professor: He's gonna ask you to speak to the team. Glenn Ordway: there and just go, Bill, Bill, I'm sorry. I'm back. I have one more question. I never got to on Mondays. The Professor: Yeah. Yeah. Glenn Ordway: I gotta I gotta throw it at you. Yeah, yeah. You did ask that. You did ask that question. Lou Merloni: I'll see if I can get the answer about Malcolm Butler in the Super Bowl. Like, listen, you never gave it to me. Off the air. Come on, off the air. Give it to me. Glenn Ordway: You asked that question and it was The Professor: I some some they're still the crazy they're still holding on to that. They're the the they're still holding on. Even even Malcolm Butler does not. He's so far removed from it and he's still Lou Merloni: No, it's like JFK. The Professor: it's amazing that the fact that they're holding on. Something is up. Why doesn't Kirk investigate this? Like he does, he's always he's doing he's doing all this stuff. Why doesn't he do yeah? Lou Merloni: You know, and the longer the things the longer Glenn Ordway: That's a good one. Deep dive. Yeah. Good point. Solving murders. Lou Merloni: and the longer it goes to the longer it goes, it makes you more curious. You're like, wow, it must have been something nuts that neither side want to talk about. The Professor: Right. Wait, Lou, we had him on our show. Glenn Ordway: But wouldn't you think The Professor: Lou, we had him on our show. Did we not? When we were at the when I got mud butt and I got all sick down in LA. Remember that? And I had to like I had Lou Merloni: Yep, yep, yeah. The Professor: to beg Lou to go to go to the the pharmacy for me and grab me some Zofran so I wouldn't die. I had to come out of both ends. It was horrible. We had Malcolm Butler on the show that time. Lou Merloni: Yeah, and then he just threw the dirty clothes in his suitcase and we flew home. You didn't even rinse him out, Glenn. I mean, this is what I was dealing with when you left. think he The Professor: That's not true. Cl Lou, that's not true. That's a lie. Glenn Ordway: Football players though, you know what they're like. Lou Merloni: shit his pants and threw them in the suitcase and we flew home. Who does that? The Professor: I like those shorts. Those are my favorite you know, Lululemon shorts. Glenn Ordway: I hope you checked in the baggage. It wasn't carry on. That's all I can say. God. I that's Lou Merloni: Thank God it wasn't. Holy Jesus. Glenn Ordway: the longer this thing goes on and the way Malcolm Butler has reacted, the more I I just don't think there's anything mischievous i in this whole story. I just don't. I think it would have come out by now. Lou Merloni: See that's the wild part and and maybe you're right maybe like because the wildest answer would be like he just Felt like he had a better chance of winning by not playing Malcolm Regardless of Glenn Ordway: Yeah. Lou Merloni: how the first half went because it didn't go pretty and you should have played him in the second half You don't want to start him, but just didn't play him And that's why you everybody looks at and says that that's like I just find that hard to believe that's why this whole thing is so strange, but Glenn Ordway: Well, there were bizarre stuff like, you know, maybe he was hitting on one of Bill's coaches with wives or there was all sorts of if you remember the rumors, Lou Merloni: Who knows? Or just one of Bill's coaches. Glenn Ordway: but you would have you that's but the the time that's gone by right now, Christian's right. By now I think we would have learned that. People would have talked about that, or they would have written in a book or something. And none of that has come out. None of it. I mean, yeah, it is The Professor: Yeah. I'm happy with it just having Lou Merloni: No, it's weird. The Professor: a life. That's this kind of keeps us going. It's our JFK. Glenn Ordway: But the one thing I Lou Merloni: I know. Glenn Ordway: was gonna add to the Richie incognito about Vegas, the next week, of course, he takes his comeuppins and the the Patriot fans are all over him. And I even forgot about this, but they brought up the bully gate incident with him. It was almost like it was almost like, Okay, Richie, and remember Lou Merloni: that's why I just like Miami. Glenn Ordway: you were picking on that other guy. which The Professor: And and just to kind of tell you, well, before we go, because you know some of us have a job, okay? Meaning one of us. Okay. The thank Glenn Ordway: I understand that. But yeah. Lou Merloni: Sorry, Professor. The Professor: you. Thank you. The the thing is like there's like a big I wonder if he would care if I shared this with you guys. probably not. Lou Merloni: boy, please don't be Glenn pregame. Don't be Glenn pre show. The Professor: No, there is a there is a Netflix special Glenn Ordway: Share it. The Professor: coming out about that. About the but Glenn Ordway: About what? About the bully gate. Lou Merloni: Hmm. The Professor: bully gate, everything that we talked about. I Lou Merloni: Nice tease. The Professor: yeah, it is coming out. It's gonna come out, I think, during the Super Bowl. he's a big part of it. And I would just say, like, everything that I thought about that situation is true. Everything. Everything I thought. All right, we'll hang up and take your calls. coming up is Dale and Hawley. Lou Merloni: Mm, I like it. Great teas. It's a big league tease. Glenn Ordway: What what did you what did what did you think? What what did you what did you th You Lou Merloni: 617. Yeah, that's a great Glenn Ordway: gonna leave us with that? What did you think? Lou Merloni: tease. The Professor: I I no you next episode. Next episode. Next episode we can talk. We'll talk about that specifically. Glenn Ordway: Okay. Sounds good. Let's do it aga let's do it aga it's great. It's it Lou Merloni: I like it. The Professor: Yeah, well we reconnect. Glenn Ordway: sounds good to me. Okay, you go to work. Lou, you go play. Do whatever you want. Take the dog for another walk or whatever. And look Lou Merloni: I'm gonna go play some golf. One more walk's coming. The Professor: Yeah. Glenn Ordway: let's do it again in a couple of The Professor: Take a walk. Glenn Ordway: weeks, guys. All right? Sound good. All right. O Lou Merloni: Amen. All right, The Professor: Okay. All right. Later. Glenn Ordway: F right there. Christian, Lou and that fat guy. Lou Merloni: You