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(Basil) The Great Mouse Detective · Verbal Diorama

• 1:27
  Hi
• 1:27
  everyone,
• 1:28
  I'm
• 1:28
  Em.
• 1:28
  Welcome
• 1:29
  to
• 1:29
  Verbal
• 1:29
  Diorama,
• 1:30
  episode
• 1:30
  287,
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  the
• 1:33
  Great
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  Mouse
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  Detective.
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  This
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  is
• 1:35
  the
• 1:35
  podcast
• 1:35
  that's
• 1:35
  all
• 1:35
  about
• 1:36
  the
• 1:36
  history
• 1:36
  and
• 1:36
  legacy
• 1:37
  of
• 1:37
  movies
• 1:37
  you
• 1:37
  know
• 1:38
  and
• 1:38
  movies
• 1:39
  you
• 1:39
  don't
• 1:39
  who
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  may
• 1:40
  not
• 1:40
  be
• 1:40
  the
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  world's
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  greatest
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  criminal
• 1:42
  mind.
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  But
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  this
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  is
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  why
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  we
• 1:43
  need
• 1:44
  Basil
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  to
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  get
• 1:45
  the
• 1:45
  real
• 1:45
  one.
• 1:46
  Welcome
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  to
• 1:47
  Verbal
• 1:47
  Diorama.
• 1:48
  Whether
• 1:48
  you
• 1:48
  are
• 1:48
  a
• 1:48
  brand
• 1:49
  new
• 1:49
  listener
• 1:49
  to
• 1:49
  this
• 1:49
  podcast,
• 1:50
  whether
• 1:50
  you
• 1:50
  are
• 1:50
  a
• 1:51
  regular
• 1:51
  returning
• 1:51
  listener
• 1:52
  or
• 1:52
  thank
• 1:53
  you
• 1:53
  for
• 1:53
  being
• 1:53
  here.
• 1:53
  Thank
• 1:53
  you
• 1:53
  for
• 1:54
  choosing
• 1:54
  to
• 1:54
  listen
• 1:54
  to
• 1:55
  this
• 1:55
  podcast.
• 1:55
  I
• 1:55
  am
• 1:56
  so
• 1:56
  happy
• 1:56
  to
• 1:56
  have
• 1:56
  you
• 1:56
  here
• 1:57
  for
• 1:57
  the
• 1:57
  history
• 1:58
  and
• 1:58
  legacy
• 1:59
  of
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  the
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  Great
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  Mouse
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  Detective,
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  AKA
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  Basil
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  the
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  Great
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  Mouse
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  Detective,
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  which
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  is
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  what
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  I
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  know
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  this
• 2:04
  movie
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  as.
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  And
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  I
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  will
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  regularly
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  call
• 2:07
  it
• 2:07
  Basil
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  the
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  Great
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  Mouse
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  Detective
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  throughout
• 2:09
  this
• 2:09
  episode.
• 2:10
  Just
• 2:10
  FYI.
• 2:11
  But
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  this
• 2:12
  is
• 2:12
  a
• 2:12
  really
• 2:12
  special
• 2:13
  episode
• 2:13
  because
• 2:14
  this
• 2:14
  is
• 2:15
  one
• 2:15
  of
• 2:15
  the
• 2:15
  first
• 2:16
  episodes
• 2:16
  to
• 2:17
  celebrate
• 2:18
  this
• 2:18
  podcast
• 2:19
  birthday.
• 2:20
  So
• 2:20
  happy
• 2:20
  birthday
• 2:21
  to
• 2:21
  Verbal
• 2:21
  Diorama.
• 2:22
  This
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  is
• 2:23
  the
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  sixth
• 2:24
  birthday
• 2:25
  of
• 2:25
  this
• 2:25
  podcast.
• 2:26
  And
• 2:27
  this,
• 2:27
  as
• 2:27
  I
• 2:27
  say,
• 2:27
  this
• 2:28
  is
• 2:28
  the
• 2:28
  first
• 2:28
  episode
• 2:28
  of
• 2:29
  three
• 2:29
  special
• 2:29
  episodes
• 2:30
  that
• 2:30
  I'm
• 2:30
  doing
• 2:30
  to
• 2:31
  celebrate
• 2:32
  the
• 2:32
  sixth
• 2:32
  birthday
• 2:33
  of
• 2:33
  this
• 2:33
  podcast.
• 2:34
  This
• 2:34
  podcast
• 2:35
  started
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  in
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  February
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  2019.
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  It
• 2:37
  also
• 2:38
  started
• 2:38
  with
• 2:38
  an
• 2:38
  animated
• 2:39
  movie
• 2:39
  which
• 2:40
  was
• 2:40
  Titan
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  ae.
• 2:41
  Every
• 2:42
  year
• 2:42
  I
• 2:42
  celebrate
• 2:43
  the
• 2:43
  birthday
• 2:43
  of
• 2:43
  this
• 2:44
  podcast
• 2:44
  during
• 2:45
  the
• 2:45
  annual
• 2:46
  animation
• 2:47
  season.
• 2:47
  And
• 2:47
  so
• 2:47
  every
• 2:48
  year
• 2:48
  I
• 2:49
  get
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  to
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  do
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  a
• 2:50
  miniseries
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  on
• 2:51
  animated
• 2:52
  movies
• 2:52
  for
• 2:52
  the
• 2:53
  birthday
• 2:53
  of
• 2:53
  this
• 2:53
  podcast.
• 2:54
  And
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  this
• 2:55
  time
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  around
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  I
• 2:56
  wanted
• 2:56
  to
• 2:56
  look
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  at
• 2:57
  some
• 2:57
  of
• 2:57
  the
• 2:57
  more
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  underrated
• 2:59
  movies
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  from
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  Disney
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  and
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  I
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  wanted
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  to
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  look
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  at
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  the
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  pre
• 3:03
  Renaissance
• 3:04
  Renaissance
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  and
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  post
• 3:05
  Renaissance
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  eras
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  of
• 3:07
  Disney.
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  This
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  is
• 3:08
  obviously
• 3:09
  the
• 3:09
  pre
• 3:09
  renaissance,
• 3:10
  but
• 3:10
  this
• 3:10
  movie
• 3:11
  is
• 3:11
  so
• 3:11
  important
• 3:12
  to
• 3:13
  what
• 3:13
  would
• 3:13
  come
• 3:14
  after
• 3:14
  this
• 3:15
  movie.
• 3:15
  So
• 3:16
  I
• 3:16
  am
• 3:16
  so
• 3:16
  excited
• 3:17
  to
• 3:17
  be
• 3:17
  going
• 3:17
  into
• 3:18
  the
• 3:18
  history
• 3:18
  and
• 3:18
  legacy
• 3:19
  of
• 3:19
  Basil
• 3:20
  the
• 3:20
  Great
• 3:20
  Mouse
• 3:20
  Detective.
• 3:21
  I
• 3:21
  told
• 3:21
  you
• 3:21
  I'd
• 3:22
  say
• 3:22
  the
• 3:22
  name,
• 3:23
  but
• 3:23
  welcome
• 3:23
  to
• 3:24
  Animation
• 3:24
  Season
• 3:25
  2025.
• 3:26
  This
• 3:26
  is
• 3:26
  the
• 3:26
  fifth
• 3:27
  annual
• 3:27
  Animation
• 3:28
  Season.
• 3:28
  If
• 3:28
  you
• 3:28
  are
• 3:28
  not
• 3:29
  aware
• 3:29
  what
• 3:30
  animation
• 3:30
  season
• 3:31
  is,
• 3:31
  it
• 3:31
  is
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  simply
• 3:32
  a
• 3:32
  celebration
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  of
• 3:33
  animation
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  in
• 3:34
  all
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  of
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  its
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  forms.
• 3:35
  It's
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  something
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  that
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  I
• 3:36
  do
• 3:37
  every
• 3:37
  year
• 3:38
  on
• 3:38
  this
• 3:38
  podcast.
• 3:39
  And
• 3:39
  although
• 3:39
  there
• 3:40
  has
• 3:40
  been
• 3:41
  quite
• 3:41
  a
• 3:41
  lot
• 3:41
  of
• 3:41
  Disney
• 3:42
  featured
• 3:42
  in
• 3:43
  animation
• 3:43
  season,
• 3:44
  it's
• 3:44
  hard
• 3:44
  not
• 3:44
  to
• 3:45
  feature
• 3:45
  Disney.
• 3:45
  They
• 3:45
  are
• 3:46
  so
• 3:46
  prevalent.
• 3:47
  I've
• 3:47
  also
• 3:48
  covered
• 3:48
  movies
• 3:49
  in
• 3:49
  this
• 3:49
  animation
• 3:50
  season
• 3:50
  and
• 3:50
  past
• 3:51
  animation
• 3:51
  seasons
• 3:52
  on
• 3:52
  other
• 3:53
  studios
• 3:54
  like
• 3:54
  Leica,
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  Aardman,
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  Dreamworks,
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  Sony
• 3:58
  Animation,
• 3:59
  Pixar
• 3:59
  Studio,
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  Ghibli,
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  Cartoon
• 4:01
  Saloon,
• 4:02
  even
• 4:03
  studios
• 4:03
  that
• 4:03
  are
• 4:03
  no
• 4:04
  longer
• 4:04
  with
• 4:04
  us
• 4:04
  like
• 4:05
  Fox
• 4:05
  Animation,
• 4:06
  Blue
• 4:06
  sky
• 4:07
  and
• 4:07
  Don
• 4:08
  Bluth.
• 4:09
  We're
• 4:09
  going
• 4:09
  to
• 4:09
  be
• 4:09
  coming
• 4:10
  back
• 4:10
  to
• 4:10
  Don
• 4:10
  Bluth
• 4:11
  a
• 4:11
  little
• 4:11
  bit
• 4:11
  later
• 4:11
  in
• 4:12
  this
• 4:12
  episode.
• 4:13
  One
• 4:13
  of
• 4:13
  the
• 4:13
  reasons
• 4:13
  I
• 4:13
  do
• 4:14
  animation
• 4:14
  season
• 4:15
  is
• 4:15
  because
• 4:16
  there
• 4:16
  is
• 4:16
  a
• 4:17
  misconception
• 4:17
  that
• 4:17
  animation
• 4:18
  is
• 4:18
  just
• 4:18
  for
• 4:18
  children.
• 4:19
  It
• 4:19
  really
• 4:20
  is
• 4:20
  not.
• 4:20
  And
• 4:21
  I
• 4:21
  think
• 4:21
  a
• 4:21
  movie
• 4:21
  like
• 4:22
  Basil
• 4:22
  the
• 4:22
  Great
• 4:22
  Mouse
• 4:23
  Detective
• 4:23
  kind
• 4:24
  of
• 4:24
  proves
• 4:24
  that
• 4:25
  in
• 4:25
  so
• 4:25
  many
• 4:25
  ways
• 4:26
  because
• 4:26
  this
• 4:26
  is
• 4:26
  quite
• 4:27
  a
• 4:27
  dark
• 4:27
  and
• 4:28
  scary
• 4:28
  movie
• 4:29
  in
• 4:29
  places.
• 4:30
  Animation
• 4:30
  is
• 4:30
  also
• 4:31
  not
• 4:31
  a
• 4:31
  genre.
• 4:32
  It
• 4:32
  is
• 4:32
  just
• 4:33
  a
• 4:33
  perfect
• 4:33
  art
• 4:34
  form.
• 4:34
  It
• 4:35
  is
• 4:35
  capable
• 4:35
  of
• 4:35
  depicting
• 4:36
  anyone
• 4:36
  or
• 4:37
  anything.
• 4:37
  It
• 4:37
  has
• 4:38
  no
• 4:39
  limitations
• 4:39
  that
• 4:40
  live
• 4:40
  action
• 4:40
  cinema
• 4:41
  has.
• 4:41
  You
• 4:41
  will
• 4:42
  never
• 4:42
  get
• 4:42
  a
• 4:43
  live
• 4:43
  action
• 4:43
  adaptation
• 4:44
  of
• 4:45
  the
• 4:45
  Great
• 4:45
  Mouse
• 4:46
  Detective.
• 4:46
  It's
• 4:46
  as
• 4:47
  simple
• 4:47
  as
• 4:47
  that.
• 4:47
  It
• 4:47
  just
• 4:48
  would
• 4:48
  not
• 4:48
  exist.
• 4:49
  And
• 4:49
  not
• 4:49
  just
• 4:50
  because
• 4:50
  Disney
• 4:51
  doesn't
• 4:51
  really
• 4:51
  promote
• 4:52
  Basil's
• 4:52
  the
• 4:53
  Great
• 4:53
  Mouse
• 4:53
  Detective.
• 4:54
  But
• 4:54
  animation
• 4:55
  season
• 4:55
  is
• 4:55
  so
• 4:55
  important
• 4:56
  to
• 4:56
  this
• 4:56
  podcast
• 4:57
  and
• 4:57
  it
• 4:57
  remains
• 4:57
  so
• 4:57
  important
• 4:58
  because
• 4:59
  it
• 4:59
  is
• 4:59
  here
• 4:59
  to
• 5:00
  highlight
• 5:00
  incredible
• 5:01
  animated
• 5:01
  films
• 5:02
  from
• 5:02
  all
• 5:02
  of
• 5:03
  those
• 5:03
  studios.
• 5:04
  And
• 5:04
  they're
• 5:04
  all
• 5:04
  movies
• 5:05
  that
• 5:05
  you
• 5:05
  may
• 5:06
  have
• 5:06
  discounted
• 5:07
  purely
• 5:07
  because
• 5:07
  they
• 5:08
  are
• 5:08
  animated.
• 5:09
  But
• 5:09
  you
• 5:10
  shouldn't,
• 5:10
  and
• 5:10
  you
• 5:10
  definitely
• 5:11
  shouldn't
• 5:11
  discount
• 5:12
  Basil
• 5:12
  the
• 5:12
  Great
• 5:13
  Mouse
• 5:13
  Detective
• 5:13
  either.
• 5:15
  Before
• 5:15
  we
• 5:16
  jump
• 5:16
  into
• 5:16
  the
• 5:16
  Great
• 5:17
  Mouse
• 5:17
  Detective,
• 5:18
  I
• 5:18
  just
• 5:18
  want
• 5:18
  to
• 5:19
  say,
• 5:19
  genuinely,
• 5:20
  a
• 5:20
  huge
• 5:21
  thank
• 5:21
  you
• 5:21
  to
• 5:21
  everyone
• 5:22
  who
• 5:23
  listens
• 5:23
  to
• 5:23
  this
• 5:24
  podcast
• 5:24
  who
• 5:24
  has
• 5:25
  listened,
• 5:26
  continues
• 5:26
  to
• 5:27
  listen,
• 5:28
  and
• 5:28
  continues
• 5:28
  to
• 5:29
  support
• 5:29
  this
• 5:29
  podcast
• 5:30
  and
• 5:30
  has
• 5:30
  done
• 5:31
  for
• 5:31
  however
• 5:32
  long
• 5:32
  you
• 5:32
  have.
• 5:33
  But
• 5:33
  I
• 5:33
  know
• 5:33
  some
• 5:34
  listeners
• 5:34
  have
• 5:34
  been
• 5:34
  here
• 5:35
  for
• 5:35
  the
• 5:35
  entire
• 5:35
  six
• 5:36
  year
• 5:36
  run
• 5:37
  and
• 5:37
  it
• 5:37
  is
• 5:38
  a
• 5:38
  truly
• 5:38
  humbling
• 5:39
  thing
• 5:39
  to
• 5:40
  have
• 5:41
  a
• 5:41
  podcast
• 5:42
  and
• 5:42
  to
• 5:43
  be
• 5:43
  able
• 5:43
  to
• 5:44
  have
• 5:44
  a
• 5:44
  podcast,
• 5:45
  to
• 5:46
  continue
• 5:46
  to
• 5:46
  work
• 5:47
  at
• 5:47
  this
• 5:47
  podcast
• 5:48
  and
• 5:48
  to
• 5:49
  be
• 5:49
  here
• 5:49
  six
• 5:49
  years
• 5:50
  later
• 5:51
  and
• 5:51
  there's
• 5:51
  genuinely
• 5:52
  no
• 5:52
  sign
• 5:53
  of
• 5:53
  me
• 5:53
  slowing
• 5:53
  down
• 5:54
  or
• 5:54
  doing
• 5:54
  less.
• 5:55
  Because
• 5:56
  I
• 5:56
  love
• 5:56
  this
• 5:57
  podcast.
• 5:57
  I
• 5:58
  love
• 5:58
  telling
• 5:59
  these
• 5:59
  stories,
• 5:59
  I
• 6:00
  love
• 6:00
  histories
• 6:01
  and
• 6:01
  legacies
• 6:02
  of
• 6:02
  movies,
• 6:03
  and
• 6:03
  I
• 6:03
  love
• 6:03
  what
• 6:04
  I
• 6:04
  do.
• 6:05
  So
• 6:05
  from
• 6:05
  the
• 6:06
  bottom
• 6:06
  of
• 6:06
  my
• 6:06
  heart,
• 6:07
  thank
• 6:07
  you
• 6:07
  for
• 6:08
  being
• 6:08
  here
• 6:09
  and
• 6:09
  letting
• 6:09
  me
• 6:10
  do
• 6:10
  the
• 6:10
  thing
• 6:10
  that
• 6:10
  I
• 6:11
  really
• 6:11
  love
• 6:11
  to
• 6:11
  do.
• 6:12
  Birthday
• 6:13
  episodes
• 6:14
  are
• 6:14
  always
• 6:14
  special
• 6:15
  and
• 6:15
  this
• 6:15
  one
• 6:15
  is
• 6:16
  no
• 6:16
  different.
• 6:17
  It
• 6:17
  was
• 6:18
  elementary,
• 6:18
  dear
• 6:19
  listener,
• 6:19
  to
• 6:20
  do
• 6:20
  an
• 6:20
  episode
• 6:21
  on
• 6:21
  this
• 6:21
  particular
• 6:22
  forgotten
• 6:22
  Disney
• 6:23
  gem,
• 6:23
  the
• 6:24
  movie
• 6:24
  that
• 6:24
  truly
• 6:25
  cemented
• 6:25
  the
• 6:25
  Disney
• 6:25
  renaissance,
• 6:26
  the
• 6:27
  movie
• 6:27
  that
• 6:27
  was
• 6:27
  literally
• 6:28
  make
• 6:29
  or
• 6:29
  break
• 6:29
  for
• 6:29
  Disney
• 6:30
  animation
• 6:31
  with
• 6:31
  A
• 6:31
  truly
• 6:32
  menacing
• 6:32
  villain.
• 6:33
  And
• 6:33
  with
• 6:33
  very
• 6:34
  little
• 6:34
  time
• 6:35
  or
• 6:35
  money
• 6:35
  to
• 6:35
  actually
• 6:36
  get
• 6:36
  made.
• 6:37
  The
• 6:37
  odds
• 6:38
  were
• 6:38
  stacked
• 6:39
  against
• 6:39
  Basil
• 6:39
  from
• 6:40
  the
• 6:40
  very
• 6:40
  start.
• 6:41
  But
• 6:42
  like
• 6:42
  all
• 6:42
  good
• 6:43
  heroes,
• 6:43
  it
• 6:44
  didn't
• 6:44
  take
• 6:44
  much
• 6:44
  for
• 6:45
  him
• 6:45
  to
• 6:45
  become
• 6:46
  truly
• 6:46
  great.
• 6:47
  Here's
• 6:48
  the
• 6:48
  trailer
• 6:48
  for
• 6:49
  Basil,
• 6:50
  the
• 6:50
  great
• 6:50
  Mouse
• 6:50
  Detective.
• 8:06
  In
• 8:06
  1897
• 8:07
  London,
• 8:08
  Basil
• 8:08
  is
• 8:08
  a
• 8:09
  skilled
• 8:09
  detective
• 8:09
  who
• 8:10
  lives
• 8:10
  beneath
• 8:11
  221B
• 8:12
  Baker
• 8:13
  Street.
• 8:13
  Every
• 8:14
  time
• 8:14
  Basil
• 8:15
  tries
• 8:15
  to
• 8:15
  stop
• 8:15
  his
• 8:16
  arch
• 8:16
  nemesis
• 8:16
  Ratigan,
• 8:17
  or
• 8:18
  when
• 8:18
  he
• 8:18
  tries
• 8:18
  to
• 8:18
  find
• 8:19
  a
• 8:19
  clue
• 8:19
  on
• 8:19
  his
• 8:19
  whereabouts,
• 8:20
  he
• 8:20
  gets
• 8:21
  outsmarted
• 8:22
  by
• 8:22
  the
• 8:22
  mobster
• 8:22
  and
• 8:23
  the
• 8:23
  clues
• 8:23
  become
• 8:24
  a
• 8:24
  dead
• 8:24
  end.
• 8:25
  When
• 8:25
  a
• 8:25
  young
• 8:26
  female
• 8:26
  mouse
• 8:26
  called
• 8:27
  Olivia
• 8:27
  tells
• 8:28
  Basil
• 8:28
  about
• 8:28
  her
• 8:29
  father's
• 8:29
  abduction,
• 8:30
  the
• 8:30
  detective
• 8:31
  becomes
• 8:31
  determined
• 8:32
  to
• 8:32
  bring
• 8:32
  Ratigan
• 8:33
  to
• 8:33
  justice.
• 8:34
  Basil
• 8:34
  gets
• 8:35
  help
• 8:35
  from
• 8:35
  Dr.
• 8:36
  David
• 8:36
  Q.
• 8:36
  Dawson
• 8:37
  and
• 8:37
  Toby,
• 8:38
  a
• 8:38
  smart
• 8:38
  yet
• 8:39
  resourceful
• 8:39
  dog
• 8:40
  owned
• 8:40
  by
• 8:40
  Sherlock
• 8:41
  Holmes.
• 8:41
  In
• 8:42
  order
• 8:42
  to
• 8:42
  stop
• 8:42
  Ratigan
• 8:43
  once
• 8:43
  and
• 8:44
  for
• 8:44
  all
• 8:44
  with
• 8:45
  his
• 8:45
  plan
• 8:45
  to
• 8:45
  overthrow
• 8:46
  the
• 8:46
  Mouse
• 8:46
  Queen
• 8:47
  and
• 8:47
  become
• 8:48
  the
• 8:48
  supreme
• 8:49
  ruler
• 8:49
  of
• 8:50
  mousedom.
• 8:51
  Let's
• 8:51
  run
• 8:52
  through
• 8:52
  the
• 8:52
  cast
• 8:52
  of
• 8:53
  this
• 8:53
  movie.
• 8:53
  We
• 8:54
  have
• 8:54
  Vincent
• 8:54
  Price
• 8:55
  as
• 8:56
  Ratigan,
• 8:57
  Barry
• 8:57
  Ingham
• 8:58
  as
• 8:58
  Basil,
• 8:59
  Val
• 8:59
  Bettin
• 9:00
  as
• 9:00
  Dawson,
• 9:01
  Suzanne
• 9:02
  Ponacek
• 9:03
  as
• 9:03
  Olivia
• 9:04
  Flaversham,
• 9:05
  Candy
• 9:05
  Candido
• 9:06
  as
• 9:06
  Fidget,
• 9:07
  Diana
• 9:08
  Chesney
• 9:08
  as
• 9:09
  Mrs.
• 9:09
  Judson,
• 9:10
  Eve
• 9:10
  Brenner
• 9:11
  as
• 9:11
  Queen
• 9:12
  Mousetoria
• 9:13
  and
• 9:13
  alan
• 9:14
  Young
• 9:14
  as
• 9:14
  Mr.
• 9:15
  Flavisham.
• 9:16
  The
• 9:16
  great
• 9:17
  Mouse
• 9:17
  Detective
• 9:18
  has
• 9:18
  a
• 9:18
  story
• 9:19
  by
• 9:19
  Pete
• 9:20
  Young,
• 9:20
  Vance
• 9:21
  Gerry,
• 9:21
  Steve
• 9:22
  Hewlett,
• 9:22
  Ron
• 9:23
  Clements,
• 9:23
  John
• 9:23
  Muska,
• 9:24
  Bruce
• 9:25
  m.
• 9:25
  Morris,
• 9:25
  Matthew
• 9:26
  O'Callaghan,
• 9:27
  Bernie
• 9:27
  Mattinson,
• 9:28
  Dave
• 9:28
  Mishener
• 9:29
  and
• 9:29
  Melvin
• 9:30
  Shaw.
• 9:30
  Was
• 9:31
  directed
• 9:31
  by
• 9:32
  John
• 9:32
  Musker,
• 9:33
  Ron
• 9:33
  Clements,
• 9:34
  Dave
• 9:34
  Mishener
• 9:35
  and
• 9:35
  Bernie
• 9:35
  Mattinson.
• 9:36
  And
• 9:36
  was
• 9:37
  based
• 9:37
  on
• 9:37
  Basil
• 9:38
  of
• 9:38
  Baker
• 9:39
  street
• 9:39
  by
• 9:39
  Eve
• 9:40
  Titus
• 9:40
  and
• 9:40
  Paul
• 9:41
  Galdone.
• 9:42
  So
• 9:43
  where
• 9:43
  was
• 9:43
  Disney
• 9:44
  in
• 9:44
  1986?
• 9:45
  Well,
• 9:46
  Disney
• 9:46
  Animation
• 9:47
  was
• 9:48
  at
• 9:48
  a
• 9:48
  bit
• 9:48
  of
• 9:49
  a
• 9:49
  critical
• 9:49
  crossroads.
• 9:50
  Following
• 9:51
  Walt
• 9:51
  Disney's
• 9:52
  death
• 9:52
  in
• 9:52
  1966,
• 9:53
  the
• 9:54
  studio
• 9:54
  had
• 9:54
  struggled
• 9:55
  to
• 9:55
  maintain
• 9:55
  its
• 9:56
  creative
• 9:56
  and
• 9:57
  commercial
• 9:57
  momentum.
• 9:58
  The
• 9:58
  70s
• 9:59
  and
• 9:59
  early
• 9:59
  80s
• 10:00
  saw
• 10:00
  several
• 10:01
  animated
• 10:01
  films
• 10:01
  that,
• 10:02
  while
• 10:02
  not
• 10:02
  complete
• 10:03
  failures,
• 10:04
  failed
• 10:04
  to
• 10:04
  recapture
• 10:05
  the
• 10:05
  magic
• 10:05
  of
• 10:05
  Disney's
• 10:06
  earlier
• 10:06
  classics
• 10:07
  like
• 10:07
  Snow
• 10:08
  White
• 10:08
  and
• 10:08
  Cinderella.
• 10:10
  And
• 10:10
  so
• 10:10
  Walt
• 10:10
  Disney
• 10:11
  animation
• 10:11
  in
• 10:11
  the
• 10:11
  80s
• 10:12
  was
• 10:12
  really
• 10:12
  struggling.
• 10:13
  And
• 10:13
  they
• 10:14
  pinned
• 10:14
  all
• 10:15
  their
• 10:15
  hopes
• 10:15
  on
• 10:15
  a
• 10:16
  project
• 10:16
  that
• 10:17
  took
• 10:17
  12
• 10:17
  years
• 10:18
  to
• 10:18
  reach
• 10:18
  the
• 10:18
  big
• 10:18
  screen.
• 10:19
  Something
• 10:20
  that
• 10:20
  they
• 10:20
  hoped
• 10:21
  would
• 10:21
  change
• 10:21
  the
• 10:21
  studio's
• 10:22
  ailing
• 10:23
  fortunes.
• 10:23
  A
• 10:24
  movie
• 10:24
  that
• 10:24
  had
• 10:24
  some
• 10:25
  of
• 10:25
  Disney's
• 10:25
  finest
• 10:26
  animators
• 10:26
  working
• 10:27
  on
• 10:27
  it,
• 10:28
  despite
• 10:28
  many
• 10:29
  of
• 10:29
  them
• 10:29
  leaving
• 10:30
  with
• 10:30
  don
• 10:30
  Bluth
• 10:31
  in
• 10:31
  1979.
• 10:32
  And
• 10:33
  that
• 10:33
  movie
• 10:34
  was
• 10:34
  not
• 10:34
  the
• 10:34
  Great
• 10:34
  Mouse
• 10:35
  Detective.
• 10:35
  It
• 10:36
  was
• 10:36
  the
• 10:36
  Black
• 10:36
  Cauldron.
• 10:37
  And
• 10:37
  the
• 10:38
  Black
• 10:38
  Cauldron
• 10:38
  was
• 10:39
  lavish
• 10:39
  and
• 10:39
  it
• 10:40
  was
• 10:40
  expensive,
• 10:41
  and
• 10:41
  it
• 10:41
  was
• 10:42
  also
• 10:42
  a
• 10:42
  huge
• 10:43
  flop.
• 10:44
  The
• 10:44
  story
• 10:45
  of
• 10:45
  the
• 10:45
  Black
• 10:45
  Cauldron
• 10:46
  is
• 10:47
  a
• 10:47
  fascinating
• 10:48
  one.
• 10:48
  I
• 10:48
  have
• 10:49
  done
• 10:49
  an
• 10:49
  episode
• 10:50
  on
• 10:50
  the
• 10:50
  Black
• 10:50
  Cauldron
• 10:51
  that
• 10:51
  is
• 10:52
  episode
• 10:52
  241
• 10:53
  has
• 10:54
  the
• 10:54
  whole
• 10:54
  story
• 10:54
  on
• 10:55
  the
• 10:55
  Black
• 10:55
  Cauldron.
• 10:56
  And
• 10:56
  the
• 10:56
  Black
• 10:56
  Cauldron
• 10:57
  is
• 10:57
  one
• 10:58
  of
• 10:58
  those
• 10:58
  movies
• 10:58
  that
• 10:58
  is
• 10:59
  so
• 10:59
  frustrating
• 11:00
  to
• 11:00
  watch
• 11:00
  because
• 11:01
  there
• 11:01
  is
• 11:02
  so
• 11:02
  much
• 11:02
  potential
• 11:03
  in
• 11:03
  that
• 11:04
  movie,
• 11:04
  and
• 11:05
  it
• 11:05
  just
• 11:05
  didn't
• 11:06
  do
• 11:06
  very
• 11:06
  well
• 11:07
  at
• 11:07
  all.
• 11:08
  And
• 11:08
  the
• 11:08
  failure
• 11:09
  of
• 11:09
  the
• 11:09
  Black
• 11:09
  Cauldron
• 11:10
  had
• 11:10
  a
• 11:10
  profound
• 11:10
  and
• 11:11
  direct
• 11:11
  impact
• 11:12
  on
• 11:12
  the
• 11:13
  production
• 11:13
  of
• 11:13
  the
• 11:14
  Great
• 11:14
  Mouse
• 11:14
  Detective.
• 11:15
  And
• 11:15
  it
• 11:15
  essentially
• 11:16
  served
• 11:16
  as
• 11:16
  a
• 11:17
  wake
• 11:17
  up
• 11:17
  call
• 11:17
  for
• 11:18
  Disney
• 11:18
  Animation.
• 11:19
  The
• 11:19
  Black
• 11:19
  Cauldron
• 11:20
  nearly
• 11:20
  bankrupted
• 11:21
  Disney's
• 11:22
  animation
• 11:22
  division.
• 11:23
  It
• 11:23
  cost
• 11:24
  $44
• 11:25
  million
• 11:25
  to
• 11:26
  produce,
• 11:26
  which
• 11:27
  was
• 11:27
  an
• 11:27
  astronomical
• 11:28
  sum
• 11:29
  for
• 11:29
  an
• 11:29
  animated
• 11:30
  movie.
• 11:30
  In
• 11:30
  the
• 11:30
  mid-1980s,
• 11:31
  it
• 11:32
  only
• 11:32
  grossed
• 11:33
  $21.3
• 11:34
  million,
• 11:35
  making
• 11:35
  it
• 11:35
  one
• 11:36
  of
• 11:36
  Disney's
• 11:36
  biggest
• 11:37
  financial
• 11:37
  failures
• 11:38
  up
• 11:38
  to
• 11:38
  that
• 11:39
  point.
• 11:39
  The
• 11:39
  catastrophic
• 11:40
  performance
• 11:41
  of
• 11:41
  the
• 11:41
  Black
• 11:41
  Cauldron
• 11:42
  created
• 11:42
  a
• 11:43
  climate
• 11:43
  of
• 11:44
  intense
• 11:44
  scrutiny
• 11:45
  and
• 11:45
  cost
• 11:46
  consciousness
• 11:47
  within
• 11:47
  the
• 11:47
  studio.
• 11:48
  The
• 11:48
  leadership,
• 11:49
  including
• 11:50
  then
• 11:50
  CEO
• 11:50
  Michael
• 11:51
  Eisner
• 11:51
  and
• 11:51
  Jeffrey
• 11:52
  Katzenberg,
• 11:53
  became
• 11:53
  much
• 11:54
  more
• 11:54
  fiscally
• 11:55
  conservative
• 11:56
  and
• 11:56
  demanded
• 11:57
  tighter
• 11:57
  budgetary
• 11:58
  controls
• 11:58
  and
• 11:59
  more
• 11:59
  commercially
• 12:00
  viable
• 12:00
  concepts.
• 12:01
  The
• 12:02
  Great
• 12:02
  Mouse
• 12:02
  Detective
• 12:03
  was,
• 12:03
  to
• 12:04
  all
• 12:04
  intents
• 12:04
  and
• 12:05
  purposes,
• 12:05
  seen
• 12:06
  as
• 12:06
  a
• 12:06
  last
• 12:06
  chance
• 12:07
  saloon.
• 12:07
  In
• 12:07
  many
• 12:08
  respects,
• 12:08
  it
• 12:09
  had
• 12:09
  to
• 12:09
  be
• 12:09
  innovative
• 12:10
  but
• 12:10
  not
• 12:10
  extravagant
• 12:11
  to
• 12:12
  take
• 12:12
  creative
• 12:12
  risks
• 12:13
  but
• 12:13
  also
• 12:14
  ensure
• 12:14
  commercial
• 12:15
  success.
• 12:16
  It
• 12:16
  had
• 12:17
  to
• 12:17
  undo
• 12:17
  the
• 12:17
  mess
• 12:18
  of
• 12:18
  the
• 12:18
  Black
• 12:18
  Cauldron
• 12:19
  and
• 12:19
  restore
• 12:20
  faith
• 12:20
  in
• 12:20
  the
• 12:20
  public's
• 12:21
  affection
• 12:21
  for
• 12:21
  Disney.
• 12:22
  Basically,
• 12:23
  it
• 12:24
  had
• 12:24
  a
• 12:24
  lot
• 12:24
  on
• 12:25
  its
• 12:25
  little
• 12:25
  mouse
• 12:26
  sized
• 12:26
  shoulders,
• 12:28
  so
• 12:28
  they
• 12:29
  needed
• 12:29
  a
• 12:30
  good
• 12:30
  story.
• 12:31
  The
• 12:31
  Great
• 12:31
  Mouse
• 12:32
  Detective
• 12:32
  was
• 12:33
  based
• 12:33
  on
• 12:33
  Eve
• 12:34
  Titus
• 12:34
  Basil
• 12:35
  of
• 12:35
  Baker
• 12:35
  street
• 12:36
  book
• 12:36
  series,
• 12:37
  which
• 12:37
  followed
• 12:37
  a
• 12:38
  mouse
• 12:38
  Detective
• 12:38
  who
• 12:39
  lives
• 12:39
  beneath
• 12:39
  Sherlock
• 12:40
  Holmes
• 12:40
  residence
• 12:41
  at
• 12:41
  221B
• 12:43
  Baker
• 12:43
  street
• 12:44
  and
• 12:44
  solves
• 12:44
  mysteries.
• 12:45
  Along
• 12:46
  with
• 12:46
  his
• 12:46
  personal
• 12:47
  biographer,
• 12:48
  Dr.
• 12:48
  David
• 12:48
  Q.
• 12:49
  Dawson.
• 12:50
  They
• 12:50
  live
• 12:50
  in
• 12:50
  a
• 12:50
  mouse
• 12:51
  community
• 12:51
  where
• 12:52
  the
• 12:52
  mice
• 12:52
  live
• 12:53
  in
• 12:53
  tiny
• 12:53
  versions
• 12:54
  of
• 12:54
  their
• 12:55
  humans
• 12:55
  dwellings.
• 12:56
  Basil
• 12:57
  of
• 12:57
  Baker
• 12:57
  street
• 12:58
  was
• 12:58
  named
• 12:58
  after
• 12:58
  actor
• 12:59
  Basil
• 12:59
  Rathbone,
• 13:00
  who
• 13:00
  played
• 13:01
  Sherlock
• 13:01
  Holmes
• 13:02
  14
• 13:02
  times
• 13:03
  between
• 13:03
  1939
• 13:04
  and
• 13:04
  1946.
• 13:06
  The
• 13:06
  first
• 13:07
  five
• 13:07
  books,
• 13:08
  Basil
• 13:08
  of
• 13:09
  Baker
• 13:09
  Street,
• 13:10
  Basil
• 13:10
  and
• 13:10
  the
• 13:10
  Lost
• 13:11
  Colony,
• 13:11
  Basil
• 13:12
  and
• 13:12
  the
• 13:12
  Cave
• 13:12
  of
• 13:12
  Cats,
• 13:13
  Basil
• 13:14
  in
• 13:14
  Mexico,
• 13:15
  and
• 13:15
  Basil
• 13:15
  in
• 13:15
  the
• 13:16
  Wild
• 13:16
  west
• 13:16
  were
• 13:17
  released
• 13:17
  between
• 13:17
  1958
• 13:18
  and
• 13:19
  1982.
• 13:20
  Published
• 13:20
  by
• 13:20
  McGraw
• 13:21
  Hill,
• 13:22
  written
• 13:22
  by
• 13:22
  Titus
• 13:23
  and
• 13:23
  illustrated
• 13:24
  by
• 13:24
  Paul
• 13:25
  Galdone.
• 13:26
  The
• 13:26
  series
• 13:26
  was
• 13:26
  revived
• 13:27
  three
• 13:27
  decades
• 13:28
  later
• 13:28
  with
• 13:28
  Basil
• 13:29
  and
• 13:29
  the
• 13:29
  Big
• 13:29
  Cheese
• 13:30
  cook
• 13:30
  off
• 13:30
  in
• 13:30
  2018,
• 13:31
  written
• 13:32
  by
• 13:32
  Kathy
• 13:32
  Hapka
• 13:33
  and
• 13:33
  illustrated
• 13:34
  by
• 13:34
  David
• 13:34
  Mottram,
• 13:35
  followed
• 13:36
  by
• 13:36
  Basil
• 13:36
  and
• 13:36
  the
• 13:37
  royal
• 13:37
  dare
• 13:37
  in
• 13:37
  2019
• 13:38
  and
• 13:39
  Basil
• 13:39
  and
• 13:39
  the
• 13:39
  library
• 13:40
  ghost
• 13:40
  in
• 13:41
  2020.
• 13:42
  And
• 13:42
  as
• 13:43
  it
• 13:43
  turned
• 13:43
  out,
• 13:43
  veteran
• 13:44
  Disney
• 13:44
  layout
• 13:45
  artist
• 13:45
  Joe
• 13:45
  Hale
• 13:46
  suggested
• 13:47
  adapting
• 13:47
  Basil
• 13:48
  of
• 13:48
  Baker
• 13:48
  street
• 13:49
  back
• 13:49
  in
• 13:50
  the
• 13:50
  70s,
• 13:51
  but
• 13:51
  the
• 13:51
  project
• 13:51
  fell
• 13:52
  into
• 13:52
  limbo
• 13:53
  because
• 13:53
  of
• 13:53
  the
• 13:53
  similarities
• 13:54
  to
• 13:54
  the
• 13:55
  Rescuers,
• 13:55
  which
• 13:56
  came
• 13:56
  out
• 13:56
  in
• 13:56
  1977.
• 13:58
  So
• 13:59
  the
• 13:59
  idea
• 13:59
  of
• 13:59
  adapting
• 14:00
  Basil
• 14:00
  of
• 14:00
  Baker
• 14:01
  street
• 14:01
  was
• 14:01
  initially
• 14:02
  conceived
• 14:02
  as
• 14:03
  a
• 14:03
  way
• 14:03
  to
• 14:03
  revitalize
• 14:04
  Disney's
• 14:04
  animated
• 14:05
  storytelling.
• 14:06
  After
• 14:06
  a
• 14:07
  period
• 14:07
  of
• 14:07
  uncertainty,
• 14:08
  with
• 14:09
  production
• 14:09
  of
• 14:09
  the
• 14:09
  Black
• 14:10
  Cauldron
• 14:10
  struggling
• 14:11
  and
• 14:11
  with
• 14:11
  many
• 14:11
  Disney
• 14:11
  animators
• 14:12
  unhappy
• 14:13
  with
• 14:13
  that
• 14:13
  movie's
• 14:14
  progress
• 14:14
  by
• 14:14
  1980.
• 14:15
  Basel
• 14:16
  of
• 14:16
  Baker
• 14:16
  street
• 14:17
  was
• 14:17
  pitched
• 14:17
  to
• 14:17
  Disney
• 14:18
  president
• 14:18
  ron
• 14:18
  Miller
• 14:19
  in
• 14:19
  1982
• 14:20
  and
• 14:20
  approved
• 14:21
  as
• 14:21
  an
• 14:21
  alternative
• 14:22
  project
• 14:22
  to
• 14:23
  the
• 14:23
  Black
• 14:23
  Cauldron,
• 14:24
  but
• 14:24
  also
• 14:25
  managing
• 14:25
  to
• 14:25
  retain
• 14:26
  some
• 14:26
  of
• 14:26
  the
• 14:26
  scarier
• 14:27
  imagery
• 14:28
  of
• 14:28
  this
• 14:28
  darker
• 14:29
  period
• 14:29
  of
• 14:29
  Disney
• 14:30
  history,
• 14:30
  like
• 14:31
  Fidget's
• 14:31
  introduction
• 14:32
  and
• 14:32
  the
• 14:33
  climax
• 14:33
  in
• 14:33
  Big
• 14:34
  Ben.
• 14:35
  The
• 14:35
  budget
• 14:36
  for
• 14:36
  Basel
• 14:36
  of
• 14:36
  Baker
• 14:37
  street
• 14:37
  was
• 14:37
  estimated
• 14:38
  at
• 14:38
  around
• 14:38
  $24
• 14:39
  million
• 14:40
  and
• 14:40
  Bernie
• 14:41
  Mattinson
• 14:41
  and
• 14:41
  John
• 14:42
  Musker
• 14:42
  were
• 14:43
  assigned
• 14:43
  as
• 14:43
  directors,
• 14:44
  while
• 14:44
  Dave
• 14:45
  Mishener
• 14:45
  was
• 14:45
  also
• 14:46
  added
• 14:46
  as
• 14:46
  a
• 14:46
  co
• 14:47
  director.
• 14:48
  Bernie
• 14:48
  Mattinson
• 14:49
  was
• 14:49
  actually
• 14:50
  the
• 14:50
  longest
• 14:51
  serving
• 14:51
  employee
• 14:52
  of
• 14:52
  the
• 14:52
  Walt
• 14:53
  Disney
• 14:53
  Company.
• 14:54
  He
• 14:54
  joined
• 14:54
  in
• 14:55
  1953
• 14:56
  aged
• 14:56
  18
• 14:57
  and
• 14:57
  he
• 14:58
  worked
• 14:58
  there
• 14:58
  till
• 14:59
  his
• 14:59
  death
• 15:00
  at
• 15:00
  87
• 15:01
  in
• 15:01
  2023.
• 15:03
  That
• 15:03
  is
• 15:03
  almost
• 15:04
  70
• 15:04
  years
• 15:05
  of
• 15:05
  service.
• 15:06
  And
• 15:06
  I
• 15:06
  don't
• 15:07
  think
• 15:07
  we
• 15:07
  give
• 15:07
  Bernie
• 15:08
  Mattinson
• 15:09
  enough
• 15:09
  credit
• 15:10
  for
• 15:10
  being
• 15:11
  at
• 15:11
  that
• 15:11
  company
• 15:12
  for
• 15:12
  as
• 15:12
  long
• 15:12
  as
• 15:12
  he
• 15:13
  was.
• 15:14
  Anyway,
• 15:14
  the
• 15:14
  first
• 15:15
  thing
• 15:15
  they
• 15:15
  needed
• 15:15
  was
• 15:16
  a
• 15:16
  script
• 15:16
  and
• 15:16
  the
• 15:17
  script
• 15:17
  writing
• 15:17
  commenced.
• 15:18
  And
• 15:18
  while
• 15:19
  the
• 15:19
  title
• 15:19
  and
• 15:19
  characters
• 15:20
  were
• 15:20
  based
• 15:20
  on
• 15:21
  Basil
• 15:21
  at
• 15:21
  Baker
• 15:21
  street,
• 15:22
  no
• 15:23
  one
• 15:23
  of
• 15:23
  the
• 15:23
  books
• 15:24
  story
• 15:25
  served
• 15:25
  as
• 15:26
  the
• 15:26
  story
• 15:26
  for
• 15:26
  the
• 15:26
  movie.
• 15:27
  Although
• 15:27
  the
• 15:27
  first
• 15:28
  book,
• 15:28
  which
• 15:28
  is
• 15:29
  also
• 15:29
  called
• 15:29
  Basil
• 15:30
  and
• 15:30
  Baker
• 15:30
  street,
• 15:31
  is
• 15:31
  Basil
• 15:31
  and
• 15:32
  Dawson
• 15:32
  going
• 15:32
  on
• 15:32
  the
• 15:33
  search
• 15:33
  for
• 15:33
  some
• 15:33
  missing
• 15:34
  children.
• 15:35
  Otherwise
• 15:35
  the
• 15:36
  rest
• 15:36
  of
• 15:36
  the
• 15:36
  book's
• 15:36
  plots
• 15:37
  were
• 15:37
  thrown
• 15:37
  out
• 15:38
  in
• 15:38
  favor
• 15:38
  of
• 15:39
  Ratigan
• 15:39
  becoming
• 15:40
  an
• 15:40
  actual
• 15:40
  rat,
• 15:41
  Basil
• 15:42
  being
• 15:42
  an
• 15:42
  accomplished
• 15:43
  violin
• 15:43
  player,
• 15:43
  and
• 15:44
  Dawson
• 15:44
  becoming
• 15:45
  a
• 15:45
  well
• 15:45
  meaning
• 15:46
  bumbling
• 15:46
  sidekick.
• 15:47
  As
• 15:47
  opposed
• 15:48
  to
• 15:48
  the
• 15:48
  intelligent,
• 15:49
  resourceful
• 15:49
  book
• 15:49
  version.
• 15:50
  In
• 15:51
  Disney's
• 15:51
  story,
• 15:52
  it
• 15:52
  would
• 15:52
  be
• 15:52
  a
• 15:52
  missing
• 15:53
  father
• 15:53
  with
• 15:54
  his
• 15:54
  young
• 15:54
  daughter
• 15:54
  Olivia
• 15:55
  being
• 15:56
  the
• 15:56
  audience
• 15:56
  surrogate.
• 15:57
  Originally,
• 15:58
  Olivia
• 15:59
  was
• 15:59
  conceived
• 15:59
  as
• 15:59
  a
• 16:00
  grown
• 16:00
  mouse
• 16:01
  and
• 16:01
  a
• 16:01
  potential
• 16:01
  love
• 16:02
  interest
• 16:02
  for
• 16:02
  Dawson,
• 16:03
  but
• 16:03
  Ron
• 16:03
  Miller
• 16:04
  suggested
• 16:04
  she
• 16:05
  was
• 16:05
  changed
• 16:05
  to
• 16:05
  a
• 16:05
  child
• 16:06
  to
• 16:06
  make
• 16:06
  the
• 16:06
  audience
• 16:07
  feel
• 16:07
  they
• 16:08
  could
• 16:08
  relate
• 16:08
  and
• 16:08
  feel
• 16:09
  sorry
• 16:09
  for
• 16:09
  her.
• 16:10
  It
• 16:10
  would
• 16:10
  become
• 16:10
  an
• 16:11
  homage
• 16:11
  to
• 16:11
  traditional
• 16:12
  Sherlock
• 16:12
  Holmes
• 16:13
  tales,
• 16:13
  but
• 16:14
  it
• 16:14
  still
• 16:14
  languished
• 16:15
  in
• 16:15
  story
• 16:15
  hell
• 16:15
  for
• 16:16
  years
• 16:16
  with
• 16:17
  Pete
• 16:17
  Young,
• 16:17
  Vance
• 16:18
  Gerry,
• 16:18
  Steve
• 16:18
  Hewlett,
• 16:19
  Ron
• 16:19
  Clements,
• 16:20
  John
• 16:20
  Muskerman,
• 16:21
  Bruce
• 16:21
  m.
• 16:21
  Morris,
• 16:22
  Matthew
• 16:22
  O'Callaghan,
• 16:23
  Bernie
• 16:24
  Mattinson,
• 16:24
  Dave
• 16:25
  Michener
• 16:25
  and
• 16:25
  Melvin
• 16:26
  Shaw
• 16:26
  all
• 16:27
  ended
• 16:27
  up
• 16:27
  with
• 16:27
  story
• 16:28
  adapted
• 16:28
  by
• 16:28
  credits
• 16:29
  because
• 16:30
  they
• 16:30
  all
• 16:30
  contributed
• 16:31
  parts
• 16:31
  of
• 16:32
  the
• 16:32
  story.
• 16:33
  We
• 16:33
  talked
• 16:33
  about
• 16:34
  him
• 16:34
  extensively
• 16:35
  last
• 16:35
  episode
• 16:36
  in
• 16:36
  Shrek
• 16:36
  2,
• 16:37
  so
• 16:37
  we
• 16:37
  might
• 16:37
  as
• 16:38
  well
• 16:38
  bring
• 16:38
  him
• 16:38
  back
• 16:38
  into
• 16:38
  the
• 16:39
  discussion.
• 16:39
  So
• 16:40
  everyone
• 16:40
  please
• 16:40
  welcome
• 16:40
  Jeffrey
• 16:41
  Katzenberg
• 16:42
  to
• 16:42
  the
• 16:42
  chat.
• 16:43
  So
• 16:43
  Ron
• 16:43
  Miller
• 16:43
  was
• 16:44
  fired
• 16:44
  from
• 16:44
  Disney
• 16:44
  in
• 16:45
  1984
• 16:46
  and
• 16:46
  the
• 16:46
  board
• 16:46
  of
• 16:46
  directors
• 16:47
  appointed
• 16:48
  Michael
• 16:48
  Eisner
• 16:48
  from
• 16:49
  Paramount
• 16:49
  to
• 16:49
  become
• 16:50
  the
• 16:50
  CEO.
• 16:51
  Eisner
• 16:51
  then
• 16:52
  recruited
• 16:52
  Katzenberg
• 16:53
  to
• 16:53
  become
• 16:53
  studio
• 16:54
  chairman
• 16:54
  and
• 16:55
  Frank
• 16:55
  Wells
• 16:56
  to
• 16:56
  become
• 16:56
  chief
• 16:56
  operating
• 16:57
  officer.
• 16:58
  And
• 16:59
  these
• 16:59
  three
• 17:00
  men
• 17:00
  are
• 17:00
  pretty
• 17:00
  integral
• 17:01
  to
• 17:01
  what
• 17:02
  happens
• 17:02
  to
• 17:02
  the
• 17:03
  story
• 17:03
  of
• 17:04
  then
• 17:04
  named
• 17:04
  Basil
• 17:05
  of
• 17:05
  Baker
• 17:05
  street
• 17:06
  going
• 17:06
  forward.
• 17:07
  So
• 17:07
  Bernie
• 17:08
  Mattinson
• 17:08
  had
• 17:08
  been
• 17:09
  appointed
• 17:10
  producer
• 17:10
  slash
• 17:10
  director
• 17:11
  by
• 17:11
  Roy
• 17:11
  E.
• 17:12
  Disney,
• 17:12
  but
• 17:13
  Mattinson
• 17:13
  chose
• 17:14
  to
• 17:14
  concentrate
• 17:15
  mostly
• 17:15
  on
• 17:15
  the
• 17:15
  producing
• 17:16
  duties
• 17:17
  since
• 17:17
  he
• 17:17
  was
• 17:17
  becoming
• 17:18
  overburdened
• 17:19
  with
• 17:19
  the
• 17:19
  amount
• 17:19
  of
• 17:19
  work
• 17:20
  required
• 17:20
  for
• 17:20
  both
• 17:21
  positions.
• 17:22
  The
• 17:22
  original
• 17:22
  directors,
• 17:23
  John
• 17:23
  Musker
• 17:24
  and
• 17:24
  Dave
• 17:24
  Mishener,
• 17:25
  retained
• 17:26
  their
• 17:26
  director
• 17:26
  roles
• 17:27
  after
• 17:27
  the
• 17:27
  new
• 17:28
  senior
• 17:28
  team
• 17:28
  joined,
• 17:29
  but
• 17:29
  Ron
• 17:30
  Clements
• 17:30
  then
• 17:30
  joined
• 17:31
  as
• 17:31
  a
• 17:31
  new
• 17:32
  director
• 17:32
  due
• 17:33
  to
• 17:33
  the
• 17:33
  additional
• 17:33
  work
• 17:34
  and
• 17:34
  limited
• 17:35
  production
• 17:35
  schedule.
• 17:36
  Because
• 17:37
  this
• 17:37
  new
• 17:37
  management
• 17:38
  team
• 17:38
  wanted
• 17:38
  to
• 17:39
  ensure
• 17:39
  the
• 17:39
  projects
• 17:40
  were
• 17:40
  worthy,
• 17:41
  there
• 17:41
  were
• 17:41
  immediate
• 17:42
  questions
• 17:42
  asked
• 17:43
  as
• 17:43
  to
• 17:43
  the
• 17:44
  viability
• 17:44
  of
• 17:45
  of
• 17:45
  the
• 17:45
  work
• 17:45
  that
• 17:46
  had
• 17:46
  been
• 17:46
  done
• 17:46
  on
• 17:46
  Basel
• 17:47
  of
• 17:47
  Baker
• 17:47
  Street.
• 17:48
  Over
• 17:48
  three
• 17:49
  years
• 17:49
  of
• 17:49
  story
• 17:50
  and
• 17:50
  storyboarding
• 17:51
  work
• 17:51
  had
• 17:51
  already
• 17:52
  been
• 17:52
  done,
• 17:53
  and
• 17:53
  yet
• 17:53
  there
• 17:54
  was
• 17:54
  no
• 17:54
  guarantee
• 17:55
  that
• 17:55
  all
• 17:55
  of
• 17:56
  this
• 17:56
  work
• 17:56
  wouldn't
• 17:57
  be
• 17:57
  scrapped
• 17:57
  by
• 17:58
  the
• 17:58
  incoming
• 17:59
  Eisner,
• 17:59
  Katzenberg
• 18:00
  and
• 18:00
  Welles.
• 18:01
  Basically,
• 18:02
  the
• 18:03
  team
• 18:03
  had
• 18:03
  to
• 18:04
  pitch
• 18:04
  the
• 18:04
  movie
• 18:05
  again
• 18:05
  to
• 18:06
  the
• 18:06
  newly
• 18:06
  appointed
• 18:07
  executive
• 18:07
  management
• 18:08
  team
• 18:08
  purely
• 18:09
  to
• 18:09
  obtain
• 18:09
  authorization
• 18:10
  to
• 18:11
  keep
• 18:11
  the
• 18:11
  movie's
• 18:11
  production
• 18:12
  going.
• 18:13
  They
• 18:13
  came
• 18:13
  with
• 18:14
  numerous
• 18:14
  storyboards,
• 18:15
  character
• 18:16
  concepts,
• 18:16
  a
• 18:17
  little
• 18:17
  bit
• 18:17
  of
• 18:17
  animation
• 18:18
  that
• 18:18
  had
• 18:18
  been
• 18:18
  completed,
• 18:19
  and
• 18:19
  plot
• 18:20
  outlines,
• 18:21
  and
• 18:21
  they
• 18:21
  brought
• 18:21
  it
• 18:21
  all
• 18:22
  to
• 18:22
  this
• 18:22
  pitch.
• 18:23
  During
• 18:23
  this
• 18:24
  meeting
• 18:24
  with
• 18:24
  Roy
• 18:25
  E.
• 18:25
  Disney,
• 18:25
  Michael
• 18:26
  Eisner
• 18:26
  and
• 18:26
  Jeffrey
• 18:27
  Katzenberg,
• 18:28
  Bernie
• 18:28
  Mattinson,
• 18:29
  Ron
• 18:29
  Clements
• 18:30
  and
• 18:30
  John
• 18:30
  Musker
• 18:31
  went
• 18:31
  over
• 18:32
  three
• 18:32
  or
• 18:32
  four
• 18:33
  outline
• 18:33
  storyboards
• 18:34
  that
• 18:34
  were
• 18:34
  pinned
• 18:34
  with
• 18:35
  drawings
• 18:35
  and
• 18:35
  a
• 18:36
  story
• 18:36
  reel.
• 18:37
  But
• 18:37
  Jeffrey
• 18:37
  Katzenberg
• 18:38
  had
• 18:38
  issues
• 18:39
  with
• 18:39
  the
• 18:39
  plot,
• 18:40
  particularly
• 18:40
  the
• 18:41
  connection
• 18:41
  between
• 18:42
  Sherlock
• 18:42
  Holmes
• 18:42
  and
• 18:43
  Basil.
• 18:43
  And
• 18:44
  Michael
• 18:44
  Eisner
• 18:45
  openly
• 18:45
  admitted
• 18:46
  he
• 18:46
  was
• 18:46
  confused
• 18:47
  with
• 18:47
  the
• 18:47
  storyboard
• 18:48
  process.
• 18:49
  Both
• 18:49
  complained
• 18:50
  about
• 18:50
  the
• 18:50
  slow
• 18:51
  pace
• 18:51
  and
• 18:52
  ordered
• 18:52
  rewrites
• 18:53
  of
• 18:53
  the
• 18:53
  movie
• 18:53
  before
• 18:54
  the
• 18:54
  animation
• 18:54
  portion
• 18:55
  could
• 18:55
  continue.
• 18:56
  Those
• 18:57
  rewrites
• 18:57
  were
• 18:58
  done
• 18:58
  and
• 18:58
  the
• 18:58
  team
• 18:59
  received
• 18:59
  confirmation
• 19:00
  that
• 19:00
  Basil
• 19:01
  of
• 19:01
  Baker
• 19:01
  street
• 19:02
  would
• 19:02
  be
• 19:02
  continuing
• 19:03
  production.
• 19:04
  The
• 19:04
  jubilation
• 19:05
  that
• 19:05
  the
• 19:05
  animation
• 19:06
  team
• 19:06
  had
• 19:07
  was
• 19:07
  on
• 19:07
  hearing
• 19:07
  that
• 19:08
  news
• 19:08
  was
• 19:08
  short
• 19:08
  lived
• 19:09
  though,
• 19:09
  because
• 19:10
  Eisner
• 19:11
  and
• 19:11
  Katzenberg
• 19:12
  also
• 19:12
  slashed
• 19:13
  the
• 19:13
  production
• 19:14
  budget
• 19:14
  from
• 19:15
  $24
• 19:15
  million
• 19:16
  to
• 19:16
  just
• 19:16
  $10
• 19:17
  million.
• 19:18
  Not
• 19:18
  only
• 19:19
  that,
• 19:19
  they'd
• 19:20
  also
• 19:20
  have
• 19:20
  to
• 19:20
  have
• 19:21
  the
• 19:21
  movie
• 19:21
  ready
• 19:21
  for
• 19:22
  release
• 19:22
  in
• 19:22
  July
• 19:23
  1986
• 19:24
  and
• 19:24
  not
• 19:25
  Christmas
• 19:25
  1987
• 19:27
  as
• 19:27
  they
• 19:27
  were
• 19:27
  originally
• 19:28
  planning.
• 19:29
  Also,
• 19:30
  the
• 19:30
  movie
• 19:30
  was
• 19:30
  planned
• 19:31
  to
• 19:31
  be
• 19:31
  90
• 19:31
  minutes,
• 19:32
  but
• 19:32
  because
• 19:32
  of
• 19:33
  these
• 19:33
  budgetary
• 19:33
  reasons,
• 19:34
  it
• 19:34
  was
• 19:35
  cut
• 19:35
  to
• 19:35
  74
• 19:36
  minutes
• 19:37
  with
• 19:37
  a
• 19:37
  simpler,
• 19:38
  tighter
• 19:38
  story,
• 19:39
  a
• 19:39
  smaller
• 19:39
  cast
• 19:40
  of
• 19:40
  characters,
• 19:41
  as
• 19:41
  well
• 19:41
  as
• 19:42
  some
• 19:42
  shortcuts
• 19:43
  in
• 19:43
  animation
• 19:44
  and
• 19:44
  dropping
• 19:44
  several
• 19:45
  scenes.
• 19:46
  This
• 19:46
  gave
• 19:46
  the
• 19:47
  production
• 19:47
  team
• 19:48
  one
• 19:48
  year
• 19:49
  to
• 19:49
  finish
• 19:49
  Basil
• 19:50
  and
• 19:50
  Baker
• 19:50
  street.
• 19:51
  And
• 19:51
  it
• 19:51
  was
• 19:51
  a
• 19:52
  tense,
• 19:52
  fraught
• 19:53
  year.
• 19:53
  After
• 19:54
  the
• 19:54
  failure
• 19:54
  of
• 19:54
  the
• 19:55
  black
• 19:55
  cauldron
• 19:55
  in
• 19:56
  July
• 19:56
  1985,
• 19:57
  there
• 19:58
  were
• 19:58
  rumors
• 19:58
  that
• 19:58
  Michael
• 19:59
  Eisner
• 19:59
  believed
• 20:00
  there
• 20:00
  were
• 20:00
  enough
• 20:00
  animated
• 20:01
  films
• 20:01
  in
• 20:02
  the
• 20:02
  Disney
• 20:02
  vaults
• 20:03
  for
• 20:03
  years
• 20:04
  of
• 20:04
  successful
• 20:04
  RE
• 20:05
  releases
• 20:05
  without
• 20:06
  creating
• 20:07
  new
• 20:07
  material.
• 20:08
  Disney
• 20:08
  frequently
• 20:09
  re
• 20:09
  released
• 20:10
  movies
• 20:10
  theatrically,
• 20:11
  but
• 20:12
  animators
• 20:12
  at
• 20:12
  the
• 20:12
  Disney
• 20:13
  studio
• 20:13
  were
• 20:13
  terrified
• 20:14
  about
• 20:14
  the
• 20:14
  future
• 20:15
  of
• 20:15
  Disney
• 20:16
  animation.
• 20:17
  And
• 20:17
  this
• 20:17
  was
• 20:17
  mostly
• 20:18
  due
• 20:18
  to
• 20:18
  the
• 20:18
  fact
• 20:18
  that
• 20:19
  101
• 20:19
  Dalmatians
• 20:20
  had
• 20:21
  a
• 20:21
  third
• 20:21
  theatrical
• 20:22
  release
• 20:22
  in
• 20:23
  Christmas
• 20:23
  1985,
• 20:25
  which
• 20:25
  made
• 20:25
  $33
• 20:26
  million.
• 20:27
  That
• 20:28
  is
• 20:28
  more
• 20:28
  than
• 20:28
  the
• 20:28
  Black
• 20:28
  Cauldron.
• 20:29
  It
• 20:30
  also
• 20:30
  made
• 20:30
  it
• 20:30
  the
• 20:31
  most
• 20:31
  successful
• 20:31
  reissue
• 20:32
  in
• 20:32
  the
• 20:32
  company's
• 20:33
  63
• 20:34
  year
• 20:34
  history.
• 20:35
  And
• 20:35
  the
• 20:35
  idea
• 20:36
  from
• 20:36
  Michael
• 20:36
  Eisner
• 20:37
  was
• 20:37
  if
• 20:38
  we
• 20:38
  can
• 20:38
  make
• 20:38
  guaranteed
• 20:39
  money
• 20:39
  from
• 20:39
  re
• 20:39
  releases,
• 20:40
  why
• 20:41
  would
• 20:41
  we
• 20:41
  make
• 20:42
  new
• 20:42
  stuff?
• 20:43
  More
• 20:43
  rumors
• 20:44
  about
• 20:44
  the
• 20:44
  impending
• 20:45
  demise
• 20:45
  of
• 20:46
  theatrical
• 20:46
  animation
• 20:47
  were
• 20:47
  stoked
• 20:47
  when
• 20:48
  within
• 20:48
  months
• 20:49
  of
• 20:49
  Basel
• 20:50
  of
• 20:50
  Baker
• 20:50
  street
• 20:51
  production
• 20:51
  beginning,
• 20:52
  the
• 20:52
  animation
• 20:53
  crew
• 20:53
  was
• 20:53
  transferred
• 20:54
  from
• 20:54
  the
• 20:54
  original
• 20:55
  animation
• 20:55
  building
• 20:55
  on
• 20:56
  the
• 20:56
  Burbank
• 20:56
  studio
• 20:57
  lot,
• 20:57
  a
• 20:57
  building
• 20:58
  that
• 20:58
  was
• 20:58
  built
• 20:58
  especially
• 20:59
  for
• 20:59
  animators,
• 21:00
  to
• 21:01
  a
• 21:01
  converted
• 21:01
  warehouse
• 21:02
  in
• 21:02
  a
• 21:02
  seedy
• 21:03
  area
• 21:03
  of
• 21:03
  Glendale,
• 21:04
  which
• 21:05
  were
• 21:05
  further
• 21:05
  cost
• 21:06
  cutting
• 21:06
  measures
• 21:06
  to
• 21:07
  a
• 21:07
  production
• 21:08
  already
• 21:08
  starved
• 21:09
  of
• 21:09
  money.
• 21:10
  The
• 21:10
  new
• 21:10
  Disney
• 21:10
  mantra
• 21:11
  seemed
• 21:11
  to
• 21:11
  be
• 21:12
  make
• 21:12
  them
• 21:12
  fast
• 21:13
  and
• 21:13
  make
• 21:13
  them
• 21:14
  cheap
• 21:14
  or
• 21:15
  we'll
• 21:15
  just
• 21:15
  re
• 21:16
  release
• 21:16
  the
• 21:16
  back
• 21:16
  catalog.
• 21:17
  And
• 21:18
  so
• 21:18
  the
• 21:18
  team
• 21:19
  cracked
• 21:19
  on
• 21:19
  as
• 21:20
  best
• 21:20
  as
• 21:20
  they
• 21:20
  could,
• 21:21
  including
• 21:22
  casting
• 21:22
  the
• 21:22
  movie.
• 21:23
  Both
• 21:24
  British
• 21:24
  and
• 21:24
  American
• 21:25
  voice
• 21:25
  actors
• 21:25
  read
• 21:26
  for
• 21:26
  the
• 21:26
  part
• 21:26
  of
• 21:26
  Basil,
• 21:27
  with
• 21:27
  Royal
• 21:28
  Shakespeare
• 21:28
  actor
• 21:29
  Barry
• 21:29
  Ingham
• 21:30
  getting
• 21:30
  the
• 21:30
  role
• 21:30
  within
• 21:30
  six
• 21:31
  minutes
• 21:31
  of
• 21:31
  his
• 21:31
  audition.
• 21:32
  Val
• 21:33
  Bettin,
• 21:33
  an
• 21:34
  American
• 21:34
  who
• 21:34
  had
• 21:35
  a
• 21:35
  perfect
• 21:35
  English
• 21:36
  accent,
• 21:36
  was
• 21:37
  first
• 21:37
  choice
• 21:37
  for
• 21:37
  Dawson,
• 21:38
  who
• 21:38
  was
• 21:39
  physically
• 21:39
  based
• 21:39
  on
• 21:40
  Disney
• 21:40
  legend
• 21:40
  Eric
• 21:41
  Larson,
• 21:42
  as
• 21:42
  well
• 21:42
  as
• 21:42
  having
• 21:42
  the
• 21:43
  same
• 21:43
  amiable
• 21:44
  personality,
• 21:45
  even
• 21:45
  down
• 21:45
  to
• 21:45
  wearing
• 21:46
  his
• 21:46
  trousers
• 21:47
  pulled
• 21:47
  up
• 21:47
  over
• 21:47
  his
• 21:48
  belly.
• 21:48
  And
• 21:49
  of
• 21:49
  course,
• 21:49
  the
• 21:49
  inimitable
• 21:50
  Vincent
• 21:51
  Price
• 21:51
  as
• 21:51
  Ratigan.
• 21:52
  He
• 21:52
  was
• 21:53
  remembered
• 21:53
  from
• 21:53
  Champagne
• 21:54
  for
• 21:54
  Caesar,
• 21:55
  where
• 21:55
  he
• 21:55
  played
• 21:55
  the
• 21:55
  villain.
• 21:56
  And
• 21:56
  he
• 21:56
  inspired
• 21:57
  a
• 21:57
  redesign
• 21:58
  for
• 21:58
  Ratigan,
• 21:59
  who
• 21:59
  was
• 21:59
  originally
• 22:00
  thin
• 22:00
  and
• 22:00
  weak.
• 22:01
  This
• 22:02
  redesign
• 22:02
  was
• 22:02
  alongside
• 22:03
  producer
• 22:03
  and
• 22:04
  Disney
• 22:04
  President/CEO
• 22:06
  Ron
• 22:06
  Miller,
• 22:06
  who
• 22:07
  was
• 22:07
  a
• 22:07
  6
• 22:07
  foot
• 22:08
  6
• 22:08
  ex
• 22:08
  football
• 22:09
  player
• 22:09
  for
• 22:09
  the
• 22:09
  Los
• 22:09
  Angeles
• 22:10
  Rams.
• 22:10
  Miller
• 22:11
  was
• 22:11
  imposing.
• 22:12
  Vincent
• 22:13
  Price
• 22:13
  was
• 22:14
  Vincent
• 22:14
  Price.
• 22:15
  And
• 22:15
  it
• 22:15
  inspired
• 22:16
  animator
• 22:16
  Glen
• 22:17
  Keane
• 22:17
  to
• 22:17
  design
• 22:18
  Ratigan
• 22:18
  as
• 22:19
  strong,
• 22:20
  powerful
• 22:20
  and
• 22:20
  charismatic,
• 22:21
  opposed
• 22:22
  to
• 22:22
  the
• 22:22
  much
• 22:23
  smaller,
• 22:23
  less
• 22:23
  physically
• 22:24
  imposing
• 22:25
  and
• 22:25
  slightly
• 22:26
  more
• 22:26
  erratic
• 22:26
  Basil,
• 22:27
  who
• 22:27
  is
• 22:28
  not
• 22:28
  Sherlock
• 22:29
  Holmes.
• 22:29
  But
• 22:30
  Holmes
• 22:30
  does
• 22:31
  make
• 22:31
  an
• 22:31
  appearance.
• 22:32
  In
• 22:32
  1966,
• 22:34
  Sherlock
• 22:34
  Holmes
• 22:34
  actor
• 22:35
  Basil
• 22:35
  Rathbone
• 22:36
  performed
• 22:37
  a
• 22:37
  reading
• 22:37
  of
• 22:37
  the
• 22:38
  Adventure
• 22:38
  of
• 22:38
  the
• 22:38
  Red
• 22:39
  Headed
• 22:39
  Lee
• 22:40
  for
• 22:40
  Cadman
• 22:40
  Records.
• 22:41
  Before
• 22:42
  his
• 22:42
  death
• 22:42
  in
• 22:42
  1967,
• 22:44
  he
• 22:44
  completed
• 22:45
  four
• 22:45
  volumes
• 22:45
  of
• 22:45
  Holmes
• 22:46
  stories.
• 22:47
  To
• 22:47
  have
• 22:47
  Rathbone
• 22:48
  in
• 22:48
  the
• 22:48
  movie
• 22:49
  posthumously
• 22:50
  meant
• 22:50
  a
• 22:51
  certain
• 22:51
  amount
• 22:51
  of
• 22:51
  legal
• 22:52
  and
• 22:52
  financial
• 22:52
  wrangling.
• 22:53
  Disney
• 22:54
  had
• 22:54
  a
• 22:54
  different
• 22:55
  actor
• 22:55
  record
• 22:55
  the
• 22:56
  lines
• 22:56
  in
• 22:56
  a
• 22:56
  Rathbone
• 22:57
  style
• 22:57
  delivery
• 22:58
  due
• 22:58
  to
• 22:59
  financial
• 22:59
  concerns
• 23:00
  about
• 23:00
  using
• 23:00
  a
• 23:01
  portion
• 23:01
  of
• 23:01
  the
• 23:01
  recording.
• 23:02
  But
• 23:02
  last
• 23:02
  minute,
• 23:03
  a
• 23:03
  deal
• 23:03
  was
• 23:03
  reached
• 23:04
  to
• 23:04
  have
• 23:04
  Rathbone's
• 23:05
  voice
• 23:05
  in
• 23:05
  the
• 23:05
  movie.
• 23:06
  Candy
• 23:07
  Candido,
• 23:08
  the
• 23:08
  voice
• 23:08
  of
• 23:08
  Fidget,
• 23:09
  the
• 23:09
  peg
• 23:09
  legged,
• 23:10
  broken
• 23:10
  winged
• 23:11
  bat,
• 23:11
  had
• 23:11
  previously
• 23:12
  worked
• 23:12
  on
• 23:12
  other
• 23:13
  Disney
• 23:13
  films
• 23:13
  like
• 23:14
  Robin
• 23:14
  Hood,
• 23:15
  Sleeping
• 23:15
  Beauty
• 23:15
  and
• 23:16
  Peter
• 23:16
  Pan.
• 23:17
  To
• 23:17
  make
• 23:17
  him
• 23:17
  seem
• 23:18
  less
• 23:18
  menacing,
• 23:19
  his
• 23:19
  naturally
• 23:19
  low,
• 23:20
  gravelly
• 23:21
  tones
• 23:21
  were
• 23:21
  sped
• 23:21
  up.
• 23:23
  So
• 23:23
  I
• 23:23
  watch
• 23:24
  or
• 23:24
  rewatch
• 23:25
  every
• 23:25
  movie
• 23:25
  for
• 23:25
  every
• 23:26
  episode
• 23:27
  and
• 23:27
  I
• 23:27
  was
• 23:27
  pretty
• 23:27
  certain
• 23:28
  I'd
• 23:28
  seen
• 23:28
  this
• 23:28
  movie
• 23:29
  when
• 23:29
  I
• 23:29
  was
• 23:29
  a
• 23:29
  kid.
• 23:30
  And
• 23:30
  then
• 23:30
  I
• 23:30
  got
• 23:30
  to
• 23:31
  the
• 23:31
  Big
• 23:31
  Ben
• 23:31
  scene
• 23:32
  and
• 23:32
  I
• 23:32
  was
• 23:32
  like,
• 23:33
  I
• 23:33
  have
• 23:34
  not
• 23:34
  seen
• 23:34
  this
• 23:35
  before
• 23:35
  because
• 23:36
  I
• 23:36
  was
• 23:36
  floored.
• 23:37
  And
• 23:37
  while
• 23:38
  the
• 23:38
  Black
• 23:38
  Cauldron
• 23:38
  did
• 23:39
  contain
• 23:39
  the
• 23:39
  first
• 23:40
  CGI
• 23:40
  in
• 23:40
  a
• 23:41
  Disney
• 23:41
  movie,
• 23:42
  the
• 23:42
  Great
• 23:42
  Mouse
• 23:43
  Detective
• 23:43
  literally
• 23:44
  upped
• 23:44
  it
• 23:45
  and
• 23:45
  truly
• 23:45
  amalgamated
• 23:46
  computer
• 23:47
  and
• 23:47
  hand
• 23:47
  drawn
• 23:47
  animation
• 23:48
  to
• 23:49
  create
• 23:49
  this
• 23:49
  fluid,
• 23:50
  almost
• 23:51
  steadicam
• 23:51
  like
• 23:52
  movement
• 23:52
  through
• 23:53
  this
• 23:53
  animated
• 23:53
  version
• 23:54
  of
• 23:54
  Big
• 23:54
  Ben.
• 23:55
  It
• 23:55
  makes
• 23:55
  it
• 23:55
  even
• 23:56
  more
• 23:56
  astonishing
• 23:57
  when
• 23:57
  you
• 23:57
  know
• 23:58
  that
• 23:58
  they
• 23:58
  made
• 23:58
  this
• 23:58
  movie
• 23:59
  in
• 23:59
  one
• 23:59
  year.
• 24:00
  Originally,
• 24:01
  the
• 24:01
  finale
• 24:02
  of
• 24:02
  the
• 24:02
  Great
• 24:02
  Mouse
• 24:02
  Detective
• 24:03
  was
• 24:03
  to
• 24:04
  take
• 24:04
  place
• 24:04
  on
• 24:04
  the
• 24:04
  hands
• 24:05
  of
• 24:05
  Big
• 24:05
  Ben,
• 24:06
  with
• 24:06
  Ratigan
• 24:07
  eventually
• 24:07
  falling
• 24:07
  to
• 24:08
  his
• 24:08
  demise.
• 24:09
  Art
• 24:09
  director
• 24:10
  Mike
• 24:10
  Pirazza
• 24:11
  approached
• 24:11
  director
• 24:11
  John
• 24:12
  Musker
• 24:12
  with
• 24:13
  the
• 24:13
  idea
• 24:13
  of
• 24:13
  restaging
• 24:14
  the
• 24:14
  fight
• 24:14
  so
• 24:15
  that
• 24:15
  the
• 24:15
  final
• 24:15
  confrontation
• 24:16
  would
• 24:17
  break
• 24:17
  through
• 24:17
  the
• 24:17
  face
• 24:17
  of
• 24:18
  Big
• 24:18
  Ben,
• 24:18
  with
• 24:18
  the
• 24:19
  grinding
• 24:19
  clockwork
• 24:20
  gears
• 24:20
  providing
• 24:21
  added
• 24:21
  menace
• 24:22
  to
• 24:22
  the
• 24:22
  diminutive
• 24:22
  mice.
• 24:23
  Musker
• 24:24
  agreed,
• 24:24
  and
• 24:25
  that
• 24:25
  eventually
• 24:25
  led
• 24:25
  to
• 24:26
  the
• 24:26
  use
• 24:26
  of
• 24:26
  the
• 24:27
  early
• 24:27
  version
• 24:27
  of
• 24:28
  computer
• 24:28
  animation.
• 24:30
  The
• 24:30
  Technical
• 24:31
  development
• 24:31
  for
• 24:31
  the
• 24:31
  Big
• 24:31
  Ben
• 24:32
  sequence
• 24:32
  was
• 24:32
  spearheaded
• 24:33
  by
• 24:33
  Disney
• 24:33
  animators
• 24:34
  under
• 24:34
  the
• 24:35
  guidance
• 24:35
  of
• 24:35
  of
• 24:35
  a
• 24:35
  team
• 24:36
  that
• 24:36
  included
• 24:36
  Mike
• 24:37
  Pirazza
• 24:37
  and
• 24:38
  Tad
• 24:38
  Gilo.
• 24:39
  He
• 24:39
  was
• 24:39
  responsible
• 24:40
  for
• 24:40
  computer
• 24:41
  generated
• 24:41
  graphics.
• 24:42
  He
• 24:42
  went
• 24:42
  on
• 24:43
  to
• 24:43
  work
• 24:43
  on
• 24:43
  Men
• 24:43
  in
• 24:44
  Black,
• 24:44
  the
• 24:44
  Iron
• 24:45
  Giant
• 24:45
  and
• 24:45
  Disney's
• 24:46
  Aladdin.
• 24:47
  They
• 24:47
  faced
• 24:48
  the
• 24:48
  challenge
• 24:48
  of
• 24:48
  creating
• 24:49
  a
• 24:49
  complex
• 24:49
  sequence
• 24:50
  inside
• 24:50
  the
• 24:50
  clock
• 24:51
  tower
• 24:51
  that
• 24:52
  would
• 24:52
  require
• 24:52
  intricate
• 24:53
  mechanical
• 24:53
  movements
• 24:54
  and
• 24:54
  dynamic
• 24:55
  camera
• 24:55
  angles
• 24:56
  that
• 24:56
  would
• 24:56
  have
• 24:56
  been
• 24:56
  extremely
• 24:57
  difficult
• 24:57
  to
• 24:57
  achieve
• 24:58
  with
• 24:58
  traditional
• 24:59
  animation
• 24:59
  alone.
• 25:00
  Perez's
• 25:01
  inspiration
• 25:02
  was
• 25:02
  Hayao
• 25:02
  Miyazaki's
• 25:03
  debut
• 25:04
  the
• 25:04
  Castle
• 25:04
  of
• 25:04
  Cagliostro,
• 25:05
  which
• 25:06
  is
• 25:06
  great
• 25:06
  by
• 25:06
  the
• 25:07
  way.
• 25:07
  Piratza
• 25:08
  was
• 25:08
  granted
• 25:08
  unprecedented
• 25:09
  access
• 25:10
  to
• 25:10
  Big
• 25:10
  Ben.
• 25:11
  The
• 25:11
  tour
• 25:12
  was
• 25:12
  arranged
• 25:12
  through
• 25:12
  the
• 25:13
  resident
• 25:13
  engineer
• 25:14
  over
• 25:14
  the
• 25:14
  Houses
• 25:15
  of
• 25:15
  Parliament.
• 25:15
  Because
• 25:16
  Big
• 25:16
  Ben
• 25:16
  is
• 25:17
  considered
• 25:17
  part
• 25:17
  of
• 25:17
  the
• 25:18
  palace
• 25:18
  of
• 25:18
  Westminster.
• 25:19
  Pirazza
• 25:20
  and
• 25:20
  his
• 25:21
  wife
• 25:21
  visited
• 25:21
  London
• 25:22
  to
• 25:22
  film
• 25:22
  the
• 25:22
  reference
• 25:23
  footage
• 25:23
  not
• 25:24
  only
• 25:24
  in
• 25:24
  Big
• 25:25
  Ben,
• 25:25
  but
• 25:25
  in
• 25:25
  other
• 25:25
  areas
• 25:26
  where
• 25:26
  Basil
• 25:27
  and
• 25:27
  his
• 25:27
  friends
• 25:27
  would
• 25:28
  visit.
• 25:29
  For
• 25:29
  the
• 25:29
  trip
• 25:29
  to
• 25:30
  London.
• 25:30
  The
• 25:30
  Paratz
• 25:31
  has
• 25:31
  hauled
• 25:31
  heavy
• 25:31
  video
• 25:32
  equipment.
• 25:33
  In
• 25:33
  those
• 25:33
  days,
• 25:34
  the
• 25:34
  camera
• 25:34
  and
• 25:34
  the
• 25:34
  recording
• 25:35
  device
• 25:35
  were
• 25:35
  each
• 25:36
  separate
• 25:36
  and
• 25:36
  they
• 25:36
  were
• 25:37
  large
• 25:37
  and
• 25:37
  bulky.
• 25:38
  They
• 25:38
  trekked
• 25:39
  up
• 25:39
  seemingly
• 25:40
  endless
• 25:40
  stairs
• 25:41
  in
• 25:41
  Big
• 25:41
  Ben
• 25:42
  to
• 25:42
  behind
• 25:42
  the
• 25:42
  face
• 25:43
  of
• 25:43
  the
• 25:43
  famous
• 25:43
  clock.
• 25:44
  As
• 25:44
  they
• 25:44
  made
• 25:45
  their
• 25:45
  trek
• 25:45
  upward,
• 25:46
  they
• 25:46
  discovered
• 25:46
  that
• 25:46
  the
• 25:47
  entire
• 25:47
  tower
• 25:47
  would
• 25:48
  vibrate
• 25:48
  significantly
• 25:50
  every
• 25:50
  time
• 25:50
  the
• 25:50
  bells
• 25:51
  would
• 25:51
  chime.
• 25:52
  The
• 25:52
  Pirazzas
• 25:53
  got
• 25:53
  to
• 25:53
  visit
• 25:53
  the
• 25:53
  bell
• 25:54
  chamber
• 25:54
  itself,
• 25:55
  but
• 25:55
  only
• 25:55
  had
• 25:56
  roughly
• 25:56
  10
• 25:56
  minutes
• 25:57
  to
• 25:57
  take
• 25:57
  photographs
• 25:58
  and
• 25:58
  film
• 25:58
  videos
• 25:59
  because
• 25:59
  the
• 25:59
  bells
• 26:00
  would
• 26:00
  chime
• 26:00
  on
• 26:01
  the
• 26:01
  quarter
• 26:01
  hour.
• 26:02
  During
• 26:03
  the
• 26:03
  trip,
• 26:03
  they
• 26:03
  photographed
• 26:04
  London
• 26:04
  landmarks
• 26:05
  at
• 26:05
  mouse
• 26:06
  height
• 26:06
  for
• 26:06
  references
• 26:07
  for
• 26:07
  the
• 26:07
  animation
• 26:08
  team,
• 26:08
  including
• 26:09
  Big
• 26:09
  Ben,
• 26:09
  Buckingham
• 26:10
  palace
• 26:10
  and
• 26:11
  Tower
• 26:11
  Bridge.
• 26:12
  The
• 26:12
  internal
• 26:13
  gears
• 26:13
  of
• 26:13
  Big
• 26:13
  Ben
• 26:14
  were
• 26:14
  of
• 26:14
  course
• 26:14
  created
• 26:15
  using
• 26:15
  computer
• 26:16
  animation.
• 26:17
  The
• 26:17
  team
• 26:17
  used
• 26:18
  a
• 26:18
  computer
• 26:18
  system
• 26:18
  to
• 26:19
  model
• 26:19
  and
• 26:19
  render
• 26:20
  the
• 26:20
  basic
• 26:20
  geometric
• 26:21
  shapes
• 26:21
  of
• 26:21
  the
• 26:21
  gears.
• 26:22
  Each
• 26:23
  gear's
• 26:23
  movement
• 26:23
  had
• 26:24
  to
• 26:24
  be
• 26:24
  precisely
• 26:24
  calculated
• 26:25
  to
• 26:25
  match
• 26:26
  the
• 26:26
  actual
• 26:26
  mechanical
• 26:27
  operation
• 26:28
  of
• 26:28
  a
• 26:28
  clock.
• 26:29
  The
• 26:29
  computer
• 26:29
  generated
• 26:30
  elements
• 26:30
  were
• 26:30
  printed
• 26:31
  out
• 26:31
  frame
• 26:32
  by
• 26:32
  frame
• 26:32
  and
• 26:33
  then
• 26:33
  hand
• 26:33
  traced
• 26:34
  onto
• 26:34
  animation
• 26:35
  cells
• 26:35
  to
• 26:36
  integrate
• 26:36
  with
• 26:36
  the
• 26:36
  traditional
• 26:37
  animation.
• 26:38
  To
• 26:38
  make
• 26:38
  the
• 26:38
  computer
• 26:39
  generated
• 26:39
  gears
• 26:40
  look
• 26:40
  like
• 26:40
  they
• 26:41
  belonged
• 26:41
  in
• 26:41
  the
• 26:41
  same
• 26:42
  world
• 26:42
  as
• 26:42
  the
• 26:42
  hand
• 26:43
  drawn
• 26:43
  characters.
• 26:44
  Basil
• 26:45
  and
• 26:45
  Ratigan
• 26:45
  were
• 26:45
  animated
• 26:46
  traditionally
• 26:46
  by
• 26:47
  hand,
• 26:47
  and
• 26:48
  animators
• 26:48
  had
• 26:48
  to
• 26:48
  carefully
• 26:49
  match
• 26:49
  the
• 26:49
  character's
• 26:50
  movements
• 26:50
  to
• 26:51
  the
• 26:51
  computer
• 26:51
  generated
• 26:52
  backgrounds.
• 26:53
  Rain
• 26:53
  effects
• 26:53
  were
• 26:54
  all
• 26:54
  hand
• 26:54
  animated
• 26:54
  to
• 26:55
  add
• 26:55
  atmosphere
• 26:56
  and
• 26:56
  shadows,
• 26:57
  and
• 26:57
  lighting
• 26:57
  effects
• 26:57
  were
• 26:57
  done
• 26:58
  traditionally
• 26:58
  to
• 26:59
  maintain
• 26:59
  consistency.
• 27:00
  At
• 27:01
  one
• 27:01
  point,
• 27:01
  there
• 27:01
  were
• 27:02
  54
• 27:02
  moving
• 27:03
  gears,
• 27:03
  winches,
• 27:04
  ratchets,
• 27:05
  beams
• 27:05
  and
• 27:05
  pulleys
• 27:06
  in
• 27:06
  one
• 27:06
  scene.
• 27:07
  Character
• 27:08
  animator
• 27:08
  Phil
• 27:08
  Nibelink
• 27:09
  and
• 27:09
  Tad
• 27:10
  Gilo
• 27:10
  spent
• 27:11
  months
• 27:11
  designing
• 27:11
  the
• 27:12
  interior
• 27:12
  of
• 27:12
  Big
• 27:12
  Ben,
• 27:13
  building
• 27:14
  a
• 27:14
  room
• 27:14
  in
• 27:14
  the
• 27:14
  computer's
• 27:15
  brain
• 27:15
  with
• 27:15
  each
• 27:15
  gear
• 27:16
  represented
• 27:16
  digitally
• 27:17
  as
• 27:17
  a
• 27:18
  set
• 27:18
  of
• 27:18
  radiuses,
• 27:19
  diameters,
• 27:20
  distances
• 27:20
  and
• 27:20
  lengths.
• 27:21
  Nibelink
• 27:22
  was
• 27:22
  able
• 27:22
  to
• 27:23
  use
• 27:23
  a
• 27:23
  joystick
• 27:24
  control
• 27:24
  mechanism
• 27:25
  to
• 27:25
  zero
• 27:25
  in
• 27:26
  on
• 27:26
  any
• 27:26
  specified
• 27:27
  location.
• 27:28
  And
• 27:28
  this
• 27:28
  sequence
• 27:29
  used
• 27:29
  multiple
• 27:30
  virtual
• 27:30
  camera
• 27:31
  movements
• 27:31
  that
• 27:31
  would
• 27:31
  have
• 27:31
  been
• 27:32
  nearly
• 27:32
  impossible
• 27:33
  to
• 27:33
  achieve
• 27:33
  with
• 27:34
  traditional
• 27:34
  animation
• 27:35
  alone.
• 27:36
  The
• 27:36
  computer
• 27:36
  allowed
• 27:37
  for
• 27:37
  complex
• 27:37
  tracking
• 27:38
  shots
• 27:38
  through
• 27:38
  the
• 27:39
  gears.
• 27:39
  They
• 27:39
  created
• 27:40
  dramatic
• 27:40
  sweeping
• 27:41
  movements
• 27:41
  to
• 27:42
  enhance
• 27:42
  the
• 27:42
  tension
• 27:42
  of
• 27:43
  the
• 27:43
  chase.
• 27:43
  It
• 27:44
  feels
• 27:44
  very
• 27:44
  reminiscent
• 27:45
  of
• 27:45
  what
• 27:45
  Richard
• 27:46
  Williams
• 27:46
  would
• 27:47
  go
• 27:47
  on
• 27:47
  to
• 27:47
  do
• 27:47
  in
• 27:47
  the
• 27:48
  Thief
• 27:48
  and
• 27:48
  the
• 27:48
  Cobbler,
• 27:49
  except
• 27:50
  that
• 27:50
  was
• 27:50
  all
• 27:50
  animated
• 27:51
  by
• 27:51
  hand.
• 27:52
  Please
• 27:52
  go
• 27:52
  and
• 27:52
  look
• 27:52
  on
• 27:53
  YouTube
• 27:53
  for
• 27:53
  information
• 27:54
  on
• 27:54
  the
• 27:54
  Thief
• 27:54
  and
• 27:54
  the
• 27:55
  Cobbler.
• 27:55
  It
• 27:55
  is
• 27:56
  some
• 27:56
  of
• 27:56
  the
• 27:56
  most
• 27:56
  incredible
• 27:56
  hand
• 27:57
  drawn
• 27:57
  animation
• 27:57
  you
• 27:58
  will
• 27:58
  ever
• 27:58
  see
• 27:58
  in
• 27:58
  your
• 27:58
  life.
• 27:59
  That
• 28:00
  didn't
• 28:00
  mean
• 28:00
  that
• 28:00
  the
• 28:00
  rest
• 28:01
  of
• 28:01
  the
• 28:01
  animation
• 28:01
  in
• 28:02
  this
• 28:02
  movie
• 28:02
  was
• 28:03
  perfect
• 28:03
  and
• 28:03
  flawless.
• 28:04
  Because
• 28:05
  if
• 28:05
  you
• 28:05
  look
• 28:05
  at
• 28:05
  this
• 28:05
  movie,
• 28:06
  many
• 28:07
  background
• 28:07
  scenes
• 28:08
  are
• 28:08
  still
• 28:08
  and
• 28:09
  unanimated.
• 28:10
  And
• 28:10
  that's
• 28:10
  purely
• 28:11
  because
• 28:11
  the
• 28:11
  team
• 28:12
  ran
• 28:12
  out
• 28:12
  of
• 28:12
  time
• 28:13
  to
• 28:13
  actually
• 28:13
  animate
• 28:14
  those
• 28:14
  scenes.
• 28:15
  And
• 28:16
  not
• 28:16
  only
• 28:16
  did
• 28:16
  they
• 28:17
  slash
• 28:17
  the
• 28:17
  time
• 28:17
  and
• 28:18
  the
• 28:18
  budget
• 28:18
  on
• 28:18
  this
• 28:19
  movie,
• 28:19
  but
• 28:20
  Michael
• 28:20
  Eisner
• 28:21
  specifically
• 28:22
  decided
• 28:22
  to
• 28:22
  also
• 28:23
  change
• 28:23
  the
• 28:23
  title
• 28:24
  at
• 28:24
  the
• 28:24
  last
• 28:25
  minute.
• 28:25
  And
• 28:25
  this
• 28:26
  was
• 28:26
  following
• 28:26
  the
• 28:26
  box
• 28:26
  office
• 28:27
  underperformance
• 28:28
  of
• 28:28
  Young
• 28:28
  Sherlock
• 28:29
  Holmes.
• 28:29
  In
• 28:29
  1985,
• 28:31
  Eisner
• 28:31
  decided
• 28:32
  to
• 28:32
  rename
• 28:33
  Basil
• 28:33
  of
• 28:33
  Baker
• 28:34
  street
• 28:35
  into
• 28:35
  the
• 28:35
  Great
• 28:35
  Mouse
• 28:36
  Detective,
• 28:37
  feeling
• 28:37
  the
• 28:37
  name
• 28:38
  Basil
• 28:38
  was
• 28:39
  too
• 28:39
  English.
• 28:40
  The
• 28:40
  retitling
• 28:41
  of
• 28:41
  the
• 28:41
  film
• 28:41
  proved
• 28:41
  to
• 28:42
  be
• 28:42
  unpopular
• 28:42
  with
• 28:43
  the
• 28:43
  filmmakers
• 28:44
  so
• 28:44
  much
• 28:45
  that
• 28:45
  animator
• 28:45
  Ed
• 28:46
  Gombert
• 28:46
  wrote
• 28:46
  a
• 28:47
  satirical
• 28:47
  inter
• 28:48
  office
• 28:48
  memo
• 28:49
  ridiculing
• 28:49
  the
• 28:50
  change
• 28:50
  and
• 28:50
  giving
• 28:51
  preceding
• 28:51
  Disney
• 28:52
  films
• 28:52
  generic
• 28:52
  titles
• 28:53
  such
• 28:54
  as
• 28:54
  Seven
• 28:55
  Little
• 28:55
  Men
• 28:55
  Help
• 28:56
  A
• 28:56
  Girl,
• 28:56
  the
• 28:57
  Wonderful
• 28:57
  Elephant
• 28:58
  who
• 28:58
  Could
• 28:58
  really
• 28:58
  Fly,
• 28:59
  the
• 28:59
  Little
• 28:59
  Deer
• 29:00
  who
• 29:00
  Grew
• 29:00
  up,
• 29:01
  the
• 29:01
  Girl
• 29:01
  with
• 29:01
  the
• 29:01
  See
• 29:02
  Through
• 29:02
  Shoes,
• 29:03
  Two
• 29:03
  Dogs
• 29:04
  Fall
• 29:04
  in
• 29:04
  Love,
• 29:05
  Puppies
• 29:05
  Taken
• 29:06
  Away,
• 29:06
  and
• 29:07
  A
• 29:07
  Boy,
• 29:07
  A
• 29:08
  Bear
• 29:08
  and
• 29:08
  A
• 29:08
  Big
• 29:09
  Black
• 29:09
  Cat.
• 29:10
  The
• 29:10
  memo
• 29:11
  was
• 29:11
  addressed
• 29:12
  from
• 29:12
  department
• 29:12
  head
• 29:13
  Peter
• 29:13
  Schneider,
• 29:14
  who
• 29:14
  knew
• 29:14
  nothing
• 29:14
  about
• 29:15
  it,
• 29:15
  and
• 29:15
  the
• 29:16
  search
• 29:16
  to
• 29:16
  find
• 29:16
  the
• 29:17
  author
• 29:17
  was
• 29:17
  fruitless
• 29:18
  because
• 29:19
  nobody
• 29:19
  was
• 29:19
  breaking
• 29:20
  rank
• 29:20
  in
• 29:20
  the
• 29:20
  animation
• 29:21
  department.
• 29:22
  Katzenberg
• 29:23
  ultimately
• 29:23
  told
• 29:24
  Schneider
• 29:24
  to
• 29:24
  basically
• 29:25
  accept
• 29:25
  they
• 29:25
  were
• 29:26
  never
• 29:26
  going
• 29:26
  to
• 29:26
  find
• 29:27
  the
• 29:27
  person
• 29:27
  and
• 29:28
  take
• 29:28
  it
• 29:28
  on
• 29:28
  the
• 29:28
  chin.
• 29:29
  The
• 29:29
  memo
• 29:29
  then
• 29:30
  leaked
• 29:30
  to
• 29:30
  the
• 29:30
  Los
• 29:31
  Angeles
• 29:31
  Times,
• 29:32
  where
• 29:32
  the
• 29:32
  made
• 29:33
  up
• 29:33
  titles
• 29:33
  would
• 29:33
  ultimately
• 29:34
  be
• 29:34
  called
• 29:35
  category
• 29:36
  on
• 29:36
  the
• 29:36
  US
• 29:36
  game
• 29:37
  show
• 29:37
  Jeopardy.
• 29:38
  To
• 29:38
  add
• 29:38
  to
• 29:38
  the
• 29:38
  gag,
• 29:39
  the
• 29:39
  only
• 29:39
  title
• 29:40
  that
• 29:40
  wasn't
• 29:40
  changed
• 29:41
  on
• 29:41
  the
• 29:41
  list
• 29:42
  was
• 29:42
  the
• 29:42
  Aristocats.
• 29:44
  The
• 29:44
  movie
• 29:45
  would
• 29:45
  be
• 29:45
  released
• 29:45
  here,
• 29:46
  as
• 29:46
  I
• 29:46
  said,
• 29:47
  as
• 29:47
  Basil
• 29:48
  the
• 29:48
  Great
• 29:48
  Mouse
• 29:48
  Detective.
• 29:49
  Which
• 29:49
  is
• 29:50
  mostly
• 29:50
  why
• 29:50
  I
• 29:51
  call
• 29:51
  it
• 29:51
  that
• 29:52
  and
• 29:52
  mostly
• 29:52
  why
• 29:53
  anyone
• 29:53
  in
• 29:53
  the
• 29:53
  UK
• 29:54
  will
• 29:54
  call
• 29:55
  it
• 29:55
  Basil
• 29:55
  the
• 29:55
  Great
• 29:55
  Mouse
• 29:56
  Detective.
• 29:57
  And
• 29:57
  that's
• 29:57
  also
• 29:58
  why
• 29:58
  when
• 29:58
  it
• 29:58
  came
• 29:58
  to
• 29:59
  titling
• 29:59
  this
• 29:59
  episode,
• 30:00
  I
• 30:00
  had
• 30:00
  to
• 30:00
  get
• 30:00
  a
• 30:00
  Basil
• 30:01
  in
• 30:01
  there,
• 30:01
  because
• 30:02
  that
• 30:02
  is
• 30:02
  how
• 30:02
  I
• 30:02
  know
• 30:02
  this
• 30:03
  movie.
• 30:04
  Speaking
• 30:04
  of
• 30:05
  getting
• 30:05
  things
• 30:06
  in
• 30:06
  there,
• 30:07
  this
• 30:07
  is
• 30:07
  the
• 30:07
  ideal
• 30:08
  time
• 30:08
  for
• 30:08
  the
• 30:09
  obligatory
• 30:09
  Keanu
• 30:10
  reference
• 30:10
  of
• 30:10
  this
• 30:10
  episode.
• 30:11
  And
• 30:11
  if
• 30:11
  you
• 30:11
  don't
• 30:12
  know
• 30:12
  what
• 30:12
  that
• 30:12
  is,
• 30:12
  it's
• 30:13
  a
• 30:13
  part
• 30:13
  of
• 30:13
  this
• 30:13
  podcast
• 30:13
  where
• 30:14
  I
• 30:14
  try
• 30:14
  and
• 30:14
  link
• 30:14
  Keanu
• 30:15
  Reeves
• 30:15
  to
• 30:16
  pretty
• 30:16
  much
• 30:17
  every
• 30:17
  movie
• 30:17
  that
• 30:17
  I
• 30:17
  feature
• 30:18
  for
• 30:18
  no
• 30:18
  reason
• 30:19
  other
• 30:19
  than
• 30:20
  he
• 30:20
  is
• 30:20
  the
• 30:20
  best
• 30:20
  of
• 30:21
  Men
• 30:21
  and
• 30:21
  there
• 30:21
  is
• 30:21
  probably
• 30:22
  a
• 30:22
  mouse
• 30:22
  version
• 30:23
  of
• 30:23
  Keanu
• 30:23
  Reeves
• 30:24
  somewhere
• 30:24
  in
• 30:24
  the
• 30:24
  world.
• 30:25
  That's
• 30:25
  not
• 30:25
  the
• 30:26
  reference.
• 30:26
  But
• 30:27
  the
• 30:27
  easiest
• 30:28
  way
• 30:28
  that
• 30:28
  I
• 30:28
  could
• 30:28
  think
• 30:28
  to
• 30:29
  link
• 30:29
  Keanu
• 30:29
  to
• 30:29
  this
• 30:30
  movie
• 30:30
  is
• 30:30
  is
• 30:31
  simply
• 30:31
  the
• 30:31
  fact
• 30:31
  that
• 30:31
  there
• 30:32
  is
• 30:32
  a
• 30:32
  character
• 30:32
  called
• 30:33
  Mouse
• 30:33
  in
• 30:33
  the
• 30:34
  Matrix.
• 30:34
  He
• 30:35
  is
• 30:35
  the
• 30:36
  young
• 30:36
  programmer
• 30:37
  and
• 30:37
  crew
• 30:37
  member
• 30:37
  on
• 30:38
  the
• 30:38
  Nebuchadnezzar,
• 30:39
  and
• 30:39
  obviously
• 30:40
  also
• 30:40
  in
• 30:40
  the
• 30:41
  Matrix
• 30:41
  is
• 30:41
  Keanu
• 30:42
  Reeves.
• 30:42
  So
• 30:43
  Keanu
• 30:43
  Reeves
• 30:43
  has
• 30:44
  starred
• 30:44
  technically
• 30:45
  with
• 30:46
  a
• 30:46
  mouse.
• 30:47
  So
• 30:48
  the
• 30:48
  Black
• 30:48
  Cauldron
• 30:49
  famously
• 30:50
  doesn't
• 30:50
  feature
• 30:51
  any
• 30:51
  songs,
• 30:52
  which
• 30:52
  is
• 30:52
  a
• 30:53
  bit
• 30:53
  of
• 30:53
  a
• 30:53
  rarity
• 30:54
  when
• 30:54
  you
• 30:54
  think
• 30:54
  of
• 30:55
  Disney
• 30:55
  movies.
• 30:55
  And
• 30:56
  perhaps
• 30:56
  if
• 30:56
  it
• 30:56
  had
• 30:57
  featured
• 30:57
  a
• 30:57
  couple
• 30:57
  of
• 30:57
  songs,
• 30:58
  it
• 30:58
  might
• 30:59
  have
• 30:59
  done
• 30:59
  a
• 30:59
  bit
• 30:59
  better
• 30:59
  at
• 31:00
  the
• 31:00
  box
• 31:00
  office.
• 31:01
  Henry
• 31:01
  Mancini
• 31:02
  composed
• 31:03
  the
• 31:03
  score
• 31:04
  of
• 31:04
  the
• 31:04
  Great
• 31:04
  Mouse
• 31:05
  Detective.
• 31:05
  This
• 31:06
  was
• 31:06
  his
• 31:06
  first
• 31:06
  animated
• 31:07
  feature
• 31:08
  score.
• 31:08
  Aside
• 31:09
  from
• 31:09
  the
• 31:09
  opening
• 31:10
  titles
• 31:11
  of
• 31:11
  the
• 31:11
  Pink
• 31:12
  Panther,
• 31:12
  which
• 31:12
  he
• 31:13
  also
• 31:13
  did.
• 31:14
  He
• 31:14
  originally
• 31:15
  composed
• 31:15
  a
• 31:15
  song
• 31:15
  titled
• 31:16
  Are
• 31:16
  you
• 31:17
  the
• 31:17
  one
• 31:17
  who
• 31:17
  loves
• 31:17
  Me?
• 31:18
  To
• 31:18
  serve
• 31:19
  as
• 31:19
  a
• 31:19
  parody
• 31:19
  of
• 31:20
  Victorian
• 31:20
  British
• 31:21
  music
• 31:21
  hall
• 31:22
  in
• 31:22
  rough
• 31:22
  animation.
• 31:23
  The
• 31:23
  song
• 31:23
  was
• 31:24
  recorded
• 31:24
  by
• 31:24
  Sharni
• 31:25
  Wallace.
• 31:26
  However,
• 31:26
  as
• 31:27
  the
• 31:27
  the
• 31:27
  Great
• 31:27
  Mouse
• 31:28
  Detective's
• 31:28
  budget
• 31:29
  and
• 31:29
  time
• 31:29
  constraints
• 31:30
  changed,
• 31:31
  Jeffrey
• 31:31
  Katzenberg
• 31:32
  and
• 31:32
  the
• 31:32
  new
• 31:32
  management
• 31:33
  wanted
• 31:33
  a
• 31:34
  more
• 31:34
  contemporary
• 31:35
  song
• 31:35
  as
• 31:36
  they
• 31:36
  thought
• 31:36
  it
• 31:36
  would
• 31:37
  help
• 31:37
  the
• 31:37
  film
• 31:37
  become
• 31:38
  more
• 31:38
  marketable.
• 31:40
  And
• 31:40
  so
• 31:41
  both
• 31:41
  Michael
• 31:42
  Jackson
• 31:42
  and
• 31:42
  Madonna
• 31:43
  were
• 31:43
  suggested
• 31:44
  for
• 31:44
  the
• 31:44
  song
• 31:45
  by
• 31:45
  Michael
• 31:46
  Eisner,
• 31:46
  but
• 31:46
  both
• 31:47
  probably
• 31:47
  would
• 31:47
  have
• 31:47
  been
• 31:48
  too
• 31:48
  expensive
• 31:48
  anyway.
• 31:49
  Melissa
• 31:50
  Manchester
• 31:51
  had
• 31:51
  been
• 31:51
  a
• 31:51
  successful
• 31:52
  recording
• 31:52
  artist
• 31:52
  for
• 31:53
  some
• 31:53
  time.
• 31:53
  She'd
• 31:54
  sung
• 31:54
  two
• 31:55
  Academy
• 31:55
  Award
• 31:56
  nominated
• 31:56
  songs,
• 31:57
  through
• 31:57
  the
• 31:57
  Eyes
• 31:58
  of
• 31:58
  Love
• 31:58
  for
• 31:58
  the
• 31:58
  movie
• 31:59
  ice
• 31:59
  castles
• 31:59
  in
• 32:00
  1978
• 32:01
  and
• 32:01
  I'll
• 32:01
  never
• 32:02
  say
• 32:02
  Goodbye
• 32:02
  for
• 32:02
  the
• 32:03
  movie
• 32:03
  the
• 32:03
  Promise
• 32:04
  in
• 32:04
  1979.
• 32:05
  As
• 32:06
  well
• 32:06
  as
• 32:06
  being
• 32:06
  a
• 32:07
  Grammy
• 32:07
  Award
• 32:07
  winner,
• 32:08
  Manchester
• 32:09
  wrote
• 32:09
  and
• 32:09
  performed
• 32:10
  Let
• 32:10
  Me
• 32:11
  Be
• 32:11
  Good
• 32:11
  to
• 32:11
  you
• 32:12
  and
• 32:12
  the
• 32:12
  original
• 32:13
  animation
• 32:13
  was
• 32:14
  retimed
• 32:14
  and
• 32:15
  reanimated
• 32:15
  to
• 32:15
  sync
• 32:16
  with
• 32:16
  the
• 32:16
  new
• 32:17
  song.
• 32:17
  Mancini
• 32:18
  also
• 32:19
  wrote
• 32:19
  the
• 32:19
  World's
• 32:20
  Greatest
• 32:20
  Criminal
• 32:20
  Mind
• 32:21
  and
• 32:21
  Goodbye
• 32:22
  so
• 32:22
  soon,
• 32:22
  both
• 32:23
  performed
• 32:23
  by
• 32:24
  Vincent
• 32:24
  Price.
• 32:25
  But
• 32:25
  while
• 32:26
  this
• 32:26
  was
• 32:26
  a
• 32:26
  team
• 32:27
  who
• 32:27
  got
• 32:27
  the
• 32:28
  movie
• 32:28
  done
• 32:28
  on
• 32:29
  time
• 32:29
  and
• 32:29
  on
• 32:30
  budget,
• 32:31
  and
• 32:31
  it
• 32:31
  had
• 32:31
  songs
• 32:32
  in
• 32:32
  it
• 32:32
  to
• 32:32
  help
• 32:32
  with
• 32:33
  the
• 32:33
  marketability,
• 32:34
  the
• 32:34
  general
• 32:34
  consensus
• 32:35
  from
• 32:36
  this
• 32:36
  new
• 32:36
  management
• 32:37
  team
• 32:38
  was
• 32:38
  that
• 32:39
  the
• 32:39
  film
• 32:39
  would
• 32:39
  probably
• 32:40
  be
• 32:40
  a
• 32:40
  failure.
• 32:41
  And
• 32:41
  also
• 32:42
  they
• 32:42
  were
• 32:43
  a
• 32:43
  bit
• 32:43
  sour
• 32:44
  about
• 32:44
  that
• 32:44
  internal
• 32:45
  memo.
• 32:45
  And
• 32:46
  because
• 32:46
  of
• 32:46
  these
• 32:46
  reasons,
• 32:47
  a
• 32:47
  good
• 32:47
  deal
• 32:47
  of
• 32:48
  support
• 32:48
  and
• 32:48
  marketing
• 32:49
  were
• 32:49
  withdrawn
• 32:50
  from
• 32:50
  the
• 32:50
  initial
• 32:51
  release
• 32:51
  of
• 32:51
  of
• 32:51
  the
• 32:52
  Great
• 32:52
  Mouse
• 32:52
  Detective
• 32:53
  it
• 32:53
  was
• 32:54
  Roy
• 32:54
  E.
• 32:54
  Disney
• 32:55
  who
• 32:55
  personally
• 32:55
  provided
• 32:56
  the
• 32:56
  funds
• 32:56
  needed
• 32:57
  to
• 32:57
  develop
• 32:58
  the
• 32:58
  costumed
• 32:59
  meet
• 32:59
  and
• 32:59
  greet
• 32:59
  characters
• 33:00
  from
• 33:00
  the
• 33:00
  film
• 33:01
  for
• 33:01
  the
• 33:01
  Disney
• 33:02
  theme
• 33:02
  parks.
• 33:03
  So
• 33:03
  that's
• 33:03
  why
• 33:03
  for
• 33:04
  a
• 33:04
  period
• 33:04
  of
• 33:04
  time
• 33:04
  you
• 33:04
  could
• 33:05
  only
• 33:05
  meet
• 33:05
  and
• 33:05
  greet
• 33:06
  Basil
• 33:06
  and
• 33:06
  Ratigan,
• 33:07
  and
• 33:08
  those
• 33:08
  characters
• 33:09
  were
• 33:09
  brought
• 33:09
  to
• 33:09
  life
• 33:09
  under
• 33:10
  the
• 33:10
  coordination
• 33:10
  of
• 33:11
  costume
• 33:11
  designer
• 33:12
  Alya
• 33:12
  Kalinick.
• 33:13
  The
• 33:13
  finished
• 33:14
  characters
• 33:14
  had
• 33:14
  to
• 33:14
  be
• 33:15
  approved
• 33:15
  by
• 33:15
  Roy
• 33:15
  E.
• 33:16
  Disney
• 33:16
  because
• 33:17
  he
• 33:17
  was
• 33:17
  paying
• 33:17
  for
• 33:17
  them,
• 33:18
  as
• 33:18
  well
• 33:18
  as
• 33:19
  the
• 33:19
  directorial
• 33:20
  team
• 33:20
  Matinson,
• 33:21
  Muska,
• 33:21
  Clements
• 33:22
  and
• 33:22
  Michener.
• 33:24
  So
• 33:24
  the
• 33:24
  Great
• 33:24
  Mouse
• 33:25
  Detective
• 33:25
  released
• 33:26
  on
• 33:26
  the
• 33:26
  4th
• 33:26
  of
• 33:26
  July
• 33:27
  1986.
• 33:28
  It
• 33:28
  opened
• 33:28
  at
• 33:29
  5th
• 33:29
  at
• 33:29
  the
• 33:29
  box
• 33:30
  office
• 33:30
  behind
• 33:31
  the
• 33:31
  Karate
• 33:31
  Kid,
• 33:32
  Part
• 33:32
  2,
• 33:33
  Ruthless
• 33:33
  People,
• 33:34
  back
• 33:34
  to
• 33:34
  School
• 33:35
  and
• 33:35
  Top
• 33:35
  Gun.
• 33:36
  It
• 33:36
  came
• 33:36
  out
• 33:36
  the
• 33:37
  Same
• 33:37
  Week
• 33:37
  as
• 33:37
  Psycho
• 33:38
  3
• 33:39
  and
• 33:39
  Big
• 33:39
  Trouble
• 33:40
  in
• 33:40
  Little
• 33:40
  China.
• 33:41
  It
• 33:41
  would
• 33:41
  stay
• 33:41
  in
• 33:42
  the
• 33:42
  top
• 33:42
  10
• 33:42
  for
• 33:42
  three
• 33:43
  weeks
• 33:43
  and
• 33:43
  in
• 33:43
  its
• 33:44
  third
• 33:44
  week
• 33:44
  aliens
• 33:45
  came
• 33:46
  out.
• 33:46
  That
• 33:46
  was
• 33:47
  the
• 33:47
  sort
• 33:47
  of
• 33:47
  movie
• 33:48
  it
• 33:48
  was
• 33:48
  up
• 33:48
  against
• 33:48
  at
• 33:49
  the
• 33:49
  box
• 33:49
  office,
• 33:50
  but
• 33:50
  on
• 33:51
  its
• 33:51
  eventual
• 33:51
  $14
• 33:52
  million
• 33:52
  budget.
• 33:53
  The
• 33:53
  Great
• 33:54
  Mouse
• 33:54
  Detective
• 33:54
  grossed
• 33:52
  $25.3
• 33:56
  million
• 33:57
  domestically
• 33:57
  in
• 33:58
  the
• 33:58
  US
• 33:58
  and
• 33:59
  just
• 33:59
  under
• 33:56
  $25
• 34:00
  million
• 34:01
  internationally,
• 34:02
  for
• 34:02
  a
• 34:02
  total
• 34:03
  of
• 34:00
  $50
• 34:03
  million,
• 34:05
  which
• 34:06
  was
• 34:06
  not
• 34:06
  a
• 34:06
  huge
• 34:07
  success,
• 34:08
  but
• 34:08
  it
• 34:08
  was
• 34:09
  a
• 34:09
  financial
• 34:09
  success
• 34:10
  and
• 34:10
  it
• 34:10
  was
• 34:10
  a
• 34:11
  much
• 34:11
  needed
• 34:11
  success
• 34:12
  for
• 34:12
  Disney
• 34:13
  Animation.
• 34:14
  It
• 34:14
  was
• 34:15
  retitled
• 34:16
  as
• 34:16
  the
• 34:16
  Adventures
• 34:17
  of
• 34:17
  the
• 34:17
  Great
• 34:17
  Mouse
• 34:18
  Detective
• 34:18
  and
• 34:19
  re
• 34:19
  released
• 34:19
  theatrically
• 34:20
  on
• 34:20
  14
• 34:21
  February
• 34:22
  1992,
• 34:23
  where
• 34:23
  it
• 34:23
  grossed
• 34:24
  an
• 34:24
  extra
• 34:24
  $13.3
• 34:26
  million
• 34:26
  in
• 34:26
  the
• 34:27
  US
• 34:28
  for
• 34:28
  the
• 34:28
  time
• 34:29
  being,
• 34:29
  the
• 34:29
  future
• 34:30
  of
• 34:30
  Disney
• 34:30
  feature
• 34:31
  animation
• 34:31
  was
• 34:32
  saved,
• 34:33
  but
• 34:33
  Disney's
• 34:33
  history
• 34:34
  would
• 34:34
  come
• 34:34
  back
• 34:35
  to
• 34:35
  bite
• 34:35
  it
• 34:35
  in
• 34:35
  the
• 34:36
  bum.
• 34:36
  Four
• 34:37
  months
• 34:37
  later
• 34:37
  An
• 34:38
  American
• 34:38
  Tail
• 34:39
  was
• 34:39
  released
• 34:39
  by
• 34:39
  rival
• 34:40
  animation
• 34:40
  studio
• 34:41
  Sullivan
• 34:42
  Bluth
• 34:42
  Studios,
• 34:43
  helmed
• 34:43
  by
• 34:44
  ex
• 34:44
  Disney
• 34:44
  animator
• 34:45
  Don
• 34:45
  Bluth,
• 34:46
  which
• 34:46
  became
• 34:47
  the
• 34:47
  highest
• 34:47
  grossing
• 34:48
  non
• 34:48
  Disney
• 34:49
  animated
• 34:49
  film
• 34:49
  in
• 34:50
  history
• 34:50
  at
• 34:50
  that
• 34:50
  time
• 34:51
  and
• 34:51
  beat
• 34:52
  the
• 34:52
  Great
• 34:52
  mouse
• 34:53
  detective
• 34:53
  by
• 34:54
  $22
• 34:55
  million.
• 34:55
  It
• 34:56
  was
• 34:56
  also
• 34:56
  a
• 34:57
  fairly
• 34:57
  good
• 34:57
  critical
• 34:58
  success
• 34:58
  too,
• 34:59
  with
• 34:59
  Rotten
• 34:59
  Tomatoes
• 35:00
  having
• 35:00
  it
• 35:01
  at
• 35:01
  78%.
• 35:02
  With
• 35:02
  the
• 35:02
  consensus
• 35:02
  reading
• 35:03
  the
• 35:03
  Great
• 35:04
  Mouse
• 35:04
  Detective
• 35:04
  may
• 35:04
  not
• 35:05
  rank
• 35:05
  with
• 35:05
  Disney's
• 35:06
  classics,
• 35:06
  but
• 35:06
  it's
• 35:07
  an
• 35:07
  amiable,
• 35:08
  entertaining
• 35:08
  picture
• 35:09
  with
• 35:09
  some
• 35:09
  stylishly
• 35:10
  dark
• 35:10
  visuals.
• 35:11
  Roger
• 35:11
  Ebert
• 35:12
  and
• 35:12
  Gene
• 35:12
  Siskel
• 35:13
  gave
• 35:13
  it
• 35:13
  two
• 35:14
  thumbs
• 35:14
  up
• 35:14
  on
• 35:15
  their
• 35:15
  syndicated
• 35:15
  TV
• 35:16
  show
• 35:16
  At
• 35:16
  the
• 35:16
  Movies,
• 35:17
  and
• 35:17
  coincidentally,
• 35:18
  Siskel
• 35:19
  and
• 35:19
  Ebert
• 35:20
  had
• 35:20
  signed
• 35:20
  with
• 35:20
  Buena
• 35:21
  Vista
• 35:21
  Entertainment
• 35:22
  for
• 35:22
  their
• 35:22
  show
• 35:23
  in
• 35:23
  1986,
• 35:25
  around
• 35:25
  the
• 35:25
  same
• 35:26
  time
• 35:26
  that
• 35:27
  they
• 35:27
  reviewed
• 35:27
  the
• 35:27
  Great
• 35:28
  Mouse
• 35:28
  Detective.
• 35:29
  Now
• 35:30
  there
• 35:30
  is
• 35:30
  obviously
• 35:31
  no
• 35:31
  sequel
• 35:31
  to
• 35:32
  the
• 35:32
  Great
• 35:32
  Mouse
• 35:32
  Detective.
• 35:33
  However,
• 35:34
  Tom
• 35:34
  Caulfield
• 35:35
  said
• 35:35
  in
• 35:35
  2022
• 35:36
  that
• 35:37
  that
• 35:37
  he,
• 35:37
  Bill
• 35:38
  Motts
• 35:38
  and
• 35:38
  Bob
• 35:39
  Roth
• 35:39
  presented
• 35:40
  Disney
• 35:41
  Television
• 35:41
  Animation,
• 35:42
  a
• 35:42
  crossover
• 35:43
  series
• 35:43
  that
• 35:44
  would
• 35:44
  combine
• 35:45
  the
• 35:45
  Great
• 35:45
  Mouse
• 35:45
  Detective
• 35:46
  with,
• 35:47
  of
• 35:47
  course,
• 35:48
  the
• 35:48
  Rescuers.
• 35:49
  The
• 35:50
  story
• 35:50
  featuring
• 35:51
  a
• 35:51
  descendant
• 35:51
  of
• 35:51
  Basil,
• 35:52
  who
• 35:52
  would
• 35:53
  have
• 35:53
  been
• 35:53
  a
• 35:53
  member
• 35:53
  of
• 35:53
  a
• 35:54
  contemporary
• 35:54
  rescue
• 35:55
  aid
• 35:55
  society,
• 35:56
  a
• 35:57
  bit
• 35:57
  like
• 35:57
  Kingsman
• 35:58
  or
• 35:58
  Mission
• 35:58
  Impossible.
• 35:59
  And
• 35:59
  this
• 36:00
  would
• 36:00
  be
• 36:00
  under
• 36:00
  the
• 36:01
  leadership
• 36:01
  of
• 36:01
  Ms.
• 36:02
  Bianca
• 36:03
  Caulfield,
• 36:04
  claimed
• 36:04
  that
• 36:04
  the
• 36:04
  idea
• 36:05
  was
• 36:05
  abandoned
• 36:06
  because
• 36:06
  of
• 36:06
  the
• 36:06
  recent
• 36:07
  release,
• 36:07
  at
• 36:07
  that
• 36:08
  time,
• 36:08
  of
• 36:08
  the
• 36:08
  Chip
• 36:08
  and
• 36:09
  Dale
• 36:09
  Rescue
• 36:09
  Rangers
• 36:10
  movie.
• 36:10
  And
• 36:11
  obviously
• 36:11
  you
• 36:11
  can
• 36:11
  only
• 36:12
  have
• 36:12
  so
• 36:12
  many
• 36:13
  rodents
• 36:13
  out
• 36:14
  at
• 36:14
  one
• 36:14
  time.
• 36:15
  Which
• 36:15
  is
• 36:15
  kind
• 36:16
  of
• 36:16
  funny
• 36:16
  really,
• 36:16
  because
• 36:17
  if
• 36:17
  you
• 36:17
  look
• 36:17
  at
• 36:17
  the
• 36:17
  history
• 36:18
  of
• 36:18
  Disney,
• 36:18
  Disney
• 36:19
  has
• 36:19
  always
• 36:19
  been
• 36:20
  a
• 36:20
  friend
• 36:20
  to
• 36:20
  the
• 36:21
  rodent
• 36:21
  population,
• 36:22
  Whether
• 36:23
  it's
• 36:23
  studio
• 36:24
  mascot
• 36:24
  Mickey
• 36:24
  Mouse,
• 36:25
  his
• 36:25
  girlfriend
• 36:26
  Minnie,
• 36:27
  the
• 36:27
  mice
• 36:27
  in
• 36:28
  Cinderella.
• 36:28
  Who
• 36:28
  can
• 36:29
  forget
• 36:29
  Gus
• 36:29
  Gus
• 36:30
  the
• 36:30
  Rescuers
• 36:31
  almost
• 36:32
  recently,
• 36:32
  Pixar's
• 36:33
  classic
• 36:33
  Ratatouille.
• 36:34
  Disney
• 36:35
  loves
• 36:36
  rodents.
• 36:37
  Mice
• 36:38
  characters
• 36:38
  are
• 36:39
  the
• 36:39
  best
• 36:39
  characters
• 36:40
  and
• 36:40
  they're
• 36:41
  just
• 36:41
  tiny
• 36:41
  versions
• 36:42
  of
• 36:42
  human
• 36:42
  characters.
• 36:43
  And
• 36:43
  if
• 36:43
  you
• 36:43
  want
• 36:44
  to
• 36:44
  get
• 36:44
  the
• 36:44
  job
• 36:44
  done,
• 36:45
  you
• 36:45
  contact
• 36:46
  the
• 36:46
  mouse
• 36:47
  version.
• 36:47
  Sherlock
• 36:48
  Holmes
• 36:48
  is
• 36:48
  no
• 36:49
  different.
• 36:50
  If
• 36:50
  you
• 36:50
  can't
• 36:50
  get
• 36:50
  him
• 36:51
  to
• 36:51
  help
• 36:51
  and
• 36:51
  you're
• 36:51
  mouse
• 36:52
  sized,
• 36:52
  you
• 36:53
  just
• 36:53
  contact
• 36:53
  Bassan
• 36:54
  of
• 36:54
  Baker
• 36:54
  Street.
• 36:55
  Every
• 36:56
  human
• 36:56
  in
• 36:56
  this
• 36:56
  world
• 36:57
  has
• 36:57
  a
• 36:57
  mouse
• 36:57
  counterpart
• 36:58
  who
• 36:58
  lives
• 36:59
  underneath
• 36:59
  the
• 36:59
  human.
• 37:00
  Holmes
• 37:01
  has
• 37:01
  Basil,
• 37:02
  Watson
• 37:02
  has
• 37:02
  Dawson,
• 37:03
  Mrs.
• 37:04
  Hudson
• 37:04
  has
• 37:04
  Mrs.
• 37:05
  Judson,
• 37:05
  and
• 37:06
  even
• 37:06
  Queen
• 37:06
  Victoria
• 37:07
  has
• 37:07
  Queen
• 37:08
  Mousetoria.
• 37:09
  Which
• 37:09
  means
• 37:10
  there's
• 37:10
  a
• 37:10
  little
• 37:11
  mouse
• 37:11
  version
• 37:11
  of
• 37:11
  me.
• 37:12
  Currently
• 37:12
  recording
• 37:12
  a
• 37:12
  podcast
• 37:13
  for
• 37:13
  mice
• 37:14
  who
• 37:14
  love
• 37:14
  mouse
• 37:15
  film
• 37:15
  history.
• 37:16
  And
• 37:16
  all
• 37:16
  movies
• 37:17
  have
• 37:17
  a
• 37:17
  mouse
• 37:18
  version,
• 37:18
  even
• 37:19
  movies
• 37:19
  containing
• 37:20
  mice.
• 37:20
  Although
• 37:20
  maybe
• 37:21
  the
• 37:21
  movie
• 37:21
  version
• 37:21
  of
• 37:21
  the
• 37:21
  Great
• 37:22
  Mouse
• 37:22
  Detective
• 37:22
  stars
• 37:23
  fleas
• 37:24
  or
• 37:24
  mini
• 37:25
  humans.
• 37:26
  I
• 37:26
  don't
• 37:26
  know
• 37:26
  how
• 37:27
  it
• 37:27
  works.
• 37:27
  I'm
• 37:27
  just
• 37:27
  guessing.
• 37:28
  But
• 37:28
  Verbal
• 37:29
  Mouse
• 37:29
  O
• 37:29
  Rama
• 37:30
  is
• 37:30
  real
• 37:30
  and
• 37:31
  I
• 37:31
  am
• 37:32
  100%
• 37:32
  certain
• 37:33
  of
• 37:33
  that
• 37:33
  fact.
• 37:34
  But
• 37:35
  just
• 37:35
  to
• 37:35
  get
• 37:36
  serious
• 37:36
  for
• 37:36
  a
• 37:36
  second,
• 37:37
  because
• 37:37
  considering
• 37:38
  how
• 37:38
  low
• 37:38
  morale
• 37:39
  must
• 37:39
  have
• 37:39
  been
• 37:40
  during
• 37:40
  the
• 37:40
  80s
• 37:41
  at
• 37:41
  Disney,
• 37:42
  the
• 37:42
  animators
• 37:43
  were
• 37:43
  insistent
• 37:44
  on
• 37:44
  proving
• 37:44
  the
• 37:45
  value
• 37:45
  of
• 37:45
  Disney
• 37:46
  animated
• 37:46
  projects.
• 37:47
  A
• 37:48
  huge
• 37:48
  deal
• 37:48
  was
• 37:48
  at
• 37:49
  stake
• 37:49
  with
• 37:50
  this
• 37:50
  film.
• 37:50
  The
• 37:51
  Black
• 37:51
  Cauldron
• 37:52
  had
• 37:52
  lost
• 37:52
  at
• 37:52
  the
• 37:52
  box
• 37:53
  office
• 37:53
  to
• 37:53
  the
• 37:53
  Care
• 37:54
  Bears
• 37:54
  movie.
• 37:55
  Disney's
• 37:55
  animation
• 37:56
  division
• 37:56
  was
• 37:56
  in
• 37:56
  trouble,
• 37:57
  and
• 37:58
  management
• 37:58
  threatening
• 37:59
  to
• 37:59
  re
• 37:59
  release
• 37:59
  the
• 37:59
  classics
• 38:00
  instead
• 38:00
  of
• 38:01
  investing
• 38:01
  in
• 38:01
  new
• 38:01
  movies
• 38:02
  could
• 38:02
  easily
• 38:03
  have
• 38:03
  happened.
• 38:04
  Without
• 38:04
  this
• 38:05
  little
• 38:05
  mouse
• 38:05
  detective
• 38:06
  movie,
• 38:07
  Disney
• 38:08
  might
• 38:08
  have
• 38:08
  become
• 38:09
  an
• 38:09
  animation
• 38:10
  studio
• 38:10
  of
• 38:10
  the
• 38:11
  past.
• 38:12
  And
• 38:12
  this
• 38:12
  little
• 38:12
  mouse
• 38:13
  detective
• 38:13
  movie
• 38:13
  has
• 38:14
  some
• 38:14
  of
• 38:14
  that
• 38:14
  later
• 38:15
  Black
• 38:15
  Cauldron
• 38:16
  darkness
• 38:16
  to
• 38:16
  it.
• 38:17
  And
• 38:17
  it
• 38:17
  has
• 38:17
  a
• 38:18
  protagonist
• 38:18
  that
• 38:18
  may
• 38:18
  or
• 38:19
  may
• 38:19
  not
• 38:19
  be
• 38:19
  Neurodiverse
• 38:20
  or
• 38:20
  on
• 38:20
  the
• 38:20
  Spectrum.
• 38:21
  Basil
• 38:22
  is
• 38:22
  wonderful.
• 38:22
  He's
• 38:23
  eccentric,
• 38:23
  socially
• 38:24
  awkward,
• 38:25
  blunt,
• 38:25
  tactless,
• 38:26
  and
• 38:27
  sometimes
• 38:27
  a
• 38:27
  little
• 38:27
  bit
• 38:27
  rude
• 38:28
  to
• 38:28
  others.
• 38:28
  But
• 38:29
  it
• 38:29
  doesn't
• 38:29
  come
• 38:29
  from
• 38:30
  any
• 38:30
  genuine
• 38:30
  malice.
• 38:31
  It's
• 38:31
  mostly
• 38:31
  from
• 38:32
  a
• 38:32
  lack
• 38:32
  of
• 38:32
  perception
• 38:33
  of
• 38:33
  human
• 38:33
  emotions.
• 38:34
  But
• 38:34
  he's
• 38:35
  also
• 38:35
  charismatic,
• 38:36
  charming,
• 38:37
  with
• 38:37
  very
• 38:37
  typically
• 38:38
  British
• 38:38
  dry
• 38:39
  sense
• 38:39
  of
• 38:39
  humor.
• 38:40
  And
• 38:40
  as
• 38:40
  for
• 38:41
  Dawson,
• 38:42
  I'm
• 38:42
  not
• 38:42
  sure,
• 38:43
  why
• 38:43
  he
• 38:43
  was
• 38:43
  in
• 38:43
  Afghanistan
• 38:44
  and
• 38:45
  was
• 38:45
  it
• 38:45
  a
• 38:45
  mouse
• 38:46
  version
• 38:46
  of
• 38:46
  Afghanistan?
• 38:47
  And
• 38:47
  were
• 38:48
  the
• 38:48
  mice
• 38:48
  fighting
• 38:49
  in
• 38:49
  a
• 38:49
  war?
• 38:50
  There
• 38:50
  are
• 38:50
  so
• 38:50
  many
• 38:51
  unanswered
• 38:51
  questions
• 38:52
  of
• 38:52
  this
• 38:52
  movie.
• 38:54
  Basil
• 38:54
  likes
• 38:55
  to
• 38:55
  be
• 38:55
  the
• 38:55
  smartest
• 38:56
  mouse
• 38:56
  in
• 38:56
  the
• 38:56
  room,
• 38:56
  and
• 38:57
  when
• 38:57
  he's
• 38:57
  not,
• 38:57
  he
• 38:58
  gets
• 38:58
  depressed.
• 38:59
  Ratigan
• 39:00
  also
• 39:00
  likes
• 39:00
  to
• 39:00
  be
• 39:01
  the
• 39:01
  smartest
• 39:01
  in
• 39:01
  the
• 39:01
  room,
• 39:02
  masquerading
• 39:03
  as
• 39:03
  a
• 39:03
  mouse
• 39:04
  and
• 39:04
  not
• 39:04
  the
• 39:04
  lowly
• 39:05
  rat
• 39:05
  he
• 39:05
  is.
• 39:06
  But
• 39:06
  when
• 39:06
  Ratigan
• 39:07
  is
• 39:07
  outsmarted,
• 39:08
  he
• 39:08
  becomes
• 39:09
  completely
• 39:09
  feral,
• 39:10
  dangerous
• 39:11
  and
• 39:11
  malicious.
• 39:12
  It
• 39:12
  truly
• 39:12
  is
• 39:13
  two
• 39:13
  sides
• 39:14
  of
• 39:14
  the
• 39:14
  same
• 39:14
  coin,
• 39:15
  and
• 39:15
  brains
• 39:15
  versus
• 39:16
  brawn.
• 39:17
  It's
• 39:17
  very
• 39:17
  similar
• 39:18
  actually
• 39:18
  to
• 39:18
  Robin
• 39:18
  Hood
• 39:19
  and
• 39:19
  Prince
• 39:19
  John,
• 39:20
  except
• 39:20
  Ratigan
• 39:21
  is
• 39:21
  way
• 39:21
  scarier
• 39:22
  than
• 39:22
  Prince
• 39:22
  John
• 39:23
  and
• 39:23
  Vincent
• 39:24
  Price
• 39:24
  is
• 39:24
  just
• 39:25
  so
• 39:25
  perfect
• 39:25
  in
• 39:26
  the
• 39:26
  role.
• 39:26
  Ratigan
• 39:27
  delights
• 39:28
  in
• 39:28
  his
• 39:28
  evil
• 39:28
  ways.
• 39:29
  He's
• 39:29
  so
• 39:29
  full
• 39:30
  of
• 39:30
  theatrics,
• 39:31
  including
• 39:31
  the
• 39:32
  ridiculous
• 39:32
  execution
• 39:33
  scene
• 39:34
  set
• 39:34
  up
• 39:34
  with
• 39:34
  a
• 39:35
  musical
• 39:35
  track
• 39:35
  sung
• 39:36
  by
• 39:36
  him
• 39:36
  so
• 39:37
  that
• 39:37
  his
• 39:37
  nemesis
• 39:37
  can
• 39:38
  listen
• 39:38
  to
• 39:38
  him
• 39:38
  as
• 39:38
  he
• 39:39
  dies.
• 39:39
  Ratigan
• 39:40
  truly
• 39:41
  is
• 39:41
  the
• 39:41
  most
• 39:42
  delightful
• 39:42
  narcissist
• 39:43
  and
• 39:44
  one
• 39:44
  of
• 39:44
  the
• 39:44
  most
• 39:44
  threatening
• 39:45
  villains.
• 39:45
  He
• 39:46
  feeds
• 39:46
  his
• 39:46
  minions
• 39:46
  to
• 39:47
  his
• 39:47
  cat
• 39:47
  Felicia
• 39:48
  and
• 39:48
  he
• 39:48
  throws
• 39:49
  fidget
• 39:49
  to
• 39:49
  his
• 39:49
  death.
• 39:50
  It's
• 39:51
  a
• 39:51
  bold
• 39:51
  decision
• 39:52
  by
• 39:52
  a
• 39:52
  Disney
• 39:52
  movie
• 39:53
  to
• 39:53
  have
• 39:53
  a
• 39:54
  villain
• 39:54
  so
• 39:55
  smug
• 39:55
  and
• 39:55
  self
• 39:56
  important
• 39:56
  and
• 39:57
  also
• 39:57
  comical
• 39:58
  at
• 39:58
  times,
• 39:58
  but
• 39:59
  also
• 39:59
  genuinely
• 40:00
  frightening
• 40:00
  and
• 40:01
  menacing.
• 40:02
  And
• 40:03
  I
• 40:03
  was
• 40:03
  genuinely
• 40:04
  certain
• 40:04
  I'd
• 40:04
  seen
• 40:04
  this
• 40:05
  movie
• 40:05
  when
• 40:05
  I
• 40:05
  was
• 40:05
  a
• 40:05
  kid.
• 40:06
  And
• 40:06
  like
• 40:06
  I
• 40:06
  say,
• 40:07
  watching
• 40:07
  the
• 40:07
  Big
• 40:07
  Ben
• 40:08
  scene
• 40:08
  made
• 40:08
  me
• 40:08
  realize
• 40:09
  I
• 40:09
  hadn't
• 40:09
  because
• 40:10
  I
• 40:10
  would
• 40:10
  have
• 40:10
  remembered.
• 40:11
  And
• 40:12
  honestly,
• 40:12
  it
• 40:12
  is
• 40:12
  spectacular
• 40:13
  and
• 40:13
  I
• 40:13
  still
• 40:14
  can't
• 40:14
  stop
• 40:14
  thinking
• 40:14
  about
• 40:15
  how
• 40:15
  wonderful
• 40:15
  it
• 40:15
  is.
• 40:16
  It
• 40:16
  shows
• 40:16
  Ratigan
• 40:17
  at
• 40:17
  his
• 40:18
  most
• 40:18
  animalistic
• 40:18
  and
• 40:19
  aggressive.
• 40:20
  It's
• 40:20
  genuinely
• 40:21
  scary
• 40:21
  and
• 40:21
  mesmerizing
• 40:23
  and
• 40:23
  it
• 40:23
  shows
• 40:24
  exactly
• 40:24
  what
• 40:24
  CG
• 40:25
  animation
• 40:25
  can
• 40:26
  bring
• 40:26
  to
• 40:26
  traditional
• 40:27
  2D
• 40:27
  hand
• 40:28
  drawn
• 40:28
  animation.
• 40:29
  Regardless
• 40:30
  of
• 40:30
  the
• 40:30
  reduced
• 40:30
  budget
• 40:31
  and
• 40:31
  timescales,
• 40:32
  this
• 40:32
  movie
• 40:32
  has
• 40:33
  flashes
• 40:33
  of
• 40:33
  occasional
• 40:34
  beauty,
• 40:35
  impressive
• 40:35
  set
• 40:36
  pieces,
• 40:36
  and
• 40:37
  clearly
• 40:37
  the
• 40:37
  London
• 40:38
  trip
• 40:38
  did
• 40:38
  wonders
• 40:39
  to
• 40:39
  showcase
• 40:39
  its
• 40:40
  iconic
• 40:40
  landmarks.
• 40:41
  Except
• 40:43
  a
• 40:43
  muffin
• 40:44
  isn't
• 40:45
  a
• 40:45
  crumpet.
• 40:46
  Let's
• 40:46
  get
• 40:46
  our
• 40:47
  crumpets
• 40:47
  correct,
• 40:48
  please.
• 40:49
  Also,
• 40:50
  some
• 40:50
  scenes
• 40:50
  just
• 40:50
  haven't
• 40:51
  aged
• 40:51
  well.
• 40:52
  Basil
• 40:52
  dressed
• 40:53
  in
• 40:53
  quite
• 40:53
  racist
• 40:54
  Fu
• 40:54
  Manchu
• 40:55
  esque
• 40:56
  disguises
• 40:57
  and
• 40:57
  the
• 40:57
  weird
• 40:58
  sexuality
• 40:58
  of
• 40:58
  the
• 40:59
  bar
• 40:59
  song
• 40:59
  and
• 41:00
  scene.
• 41:00
  But
• 41:00
  mostly,
• 41:01
  this
• 41:02
  movie
• 41:02
  set
• 41:02
  out
• 41:02
  to
• 41:03
  do
• 41:03
  what
• 41:03
  it
• 41:03
  needed
• 41:03
  to
• 41:04
  do.
• 41:04
  It
• 41:04
  did
• 41:05
  decent
• 41:05
  box
• 41:05
  office
• 41:06
  and
• 41:06
  meanwhile,
• 41:07
  ex
• 41:07
  Disney
• 41:08
  employee
• 41:08
  Don
• 41:09
  Bluth
• 41:09
  partnered
• 41:10
  with
• 41:10
  Steven
• 41:10
  Spielberg
• 41:11
  to
• 41:11
  make
• 41:11
  his
• 41:11
  own
• 41:12
  mouse
• 41:12
  movie
• 41:13
  and
• 41:13
  had
• 41:13
  the
• 41:14
  Great
• 41:14
  Mouse
• 41:14
  Detective
• 41:15
  and
• 41:15
  An
• 41:15
  American
• 41:16
  Tale
• 41:16
  come
• 41:16
  out
• 41:17
  at
• 41:17
  the
• 41:17
  same
• 41:17
  time.
• 41:18
  History
• 41:19
  may
• 41:19
  be
• 41:20
  a
• 41:20
  little
• 41:20
  bit
• 41:20
  different,
• 41:22
  but
• 41:22
  it's
• 41:23
  not
• 41:23
  all
• 41:23
  doom
• 41:23
  and
• 41:23
  gloom.
• 41:24
  While
• 41:24
  still
• 41:25
  in
• 41:25
  production
• 41:25
  on
• 41:26
  the
• 41:26
  Great
• 41:26
  Mouse
• 41:26
  Detective,
• 41:27
  director
• 41:28
  Ron
• 41:28
  Clements
• 41:28
  brought
• 41:29
  to
• 41:29
  the
• 41:29
  Disney
• 41:29
  animation
• 41:30
  gong
• 41:30
  show
• 41:31
  a
• 41:31
  proposal
• 41:32
  to
• 41:33
  do
• 41:33
  a
• 41:33
  movie
• 41:34
  called
• 41:34
  the
• 41:34
  Little
• 41:34
  Mermaid.
• 41:35
  If
• 41:36
  not
• 41:36
  for
• 41:36
  the
• 41:37
  Great
• 41:37
  Mouse
• 41:37
  Detective,
• 41:38
  there
• 41:38
  would
• 41:39
  never
• 41:39
  have
• 41:39
  been
• 41:39
  the
• 41:40
  Little
• 41:40
  Mermaid
• 41:41
  or
• 41:41
  Beauty
• 41:41
  and
• 41:41
  the
• 41:42
  Beast.
• 41:42
  There
• 41:42
  would
• 41:43
  never
• 41:43
  have
• 41:43
  been
• 41:44
  a
• 41:44
  renaissance
• 41:44
  for
• 41:45
  Disney
• 41:45
  Feature
• 41:46
  Animation.
• 41:47
  The
• 41:47
  success
• 41:47
  of
• 41:47
  the
• 41:47
  Great
• 41:48
  Mouse
• 41:48
  Detective
• 41:49
  gave
• 41:49
  new
• 41:49
  management,
• 41:50
  Katzenberg,
• 41:51
  Wells
• 41:52
  and
• 41:52
  Eisner
• 41:53
  confidence
• 41:53
  in
• 41:54
  the
• 41:54
  abilities
• 41:54
  of
• 41:54
  the
• 41:55
  animation
• 41:55
  department.
• 41:56
  Without
• 41:56
  Basil's
• 41:57
  success,
• 41:58
  there
• 41:58
  would
• 41:58
  be
• 41:58
  no
• 41:59
  Disney
• 41:59
  Renaissance.
• 41:59
  And
• 42:00
  without
• 42:00
  the
• 42:00
  Disney
• 42:00
  Renaissance,
• 42:01
  Disney
• 42:02
  itself
• 42:03
  wouldn't
• 42:03
  exist
• 42:04
  in
• 42:04
  its
• 42:04
  current
• 42:04
  state.
• 42:05
  Basil
• 42:06
  truly
• 42:07
  is
• 42:07
  the
• 42:08
  Great
• 42:08
  Mouse
• 42:09
  Detective
• 42:10
  and
• 42:10
  deserves
• 42:11
  the
• 42:11
  greatest
• 42:11
  amount
• 42:12
  of
• 42:12
  credit
• 42:13
  for
• 42:13
  making
• 42:13
  it
• 42:14
  so
• 42:14
  that
• 42:14
  we
• 42:14
  weren't
• 42:15
  saying
• 42:15
  goodbye
• 42:16
  so
• 42:16
  soon
• 42:17
  to
• 42:17
  Disney.
• 42:18
  Basil
• 42:19
  saved
• 42:19
  Disney
• 42:19
  Animation,
• 42:20
  but
• 42:21
  I
• 42:21
  guess
• 42:22
  to
• 42:22
  Basil
• 42:23
  it
• 42:23
  was
• 42:24
  just
• 42:24
  elementary.
• 42:25
  Thank
• 42:26
  you
• 42:26
  for
• 42:26
  listening.
• 42:26
  As
• 42:27
  always,
• 42:27
  I
• 42:27
  would
• 42:27
  love
• 42:28
  to
• 42:28
  hear
• 42:28
  your
• 42:28
  thoughts
• 42:28
  on
• 42:28
  Basil
• 42:29
  the
• 42:29
  Great
• 42:29
  Nurse
• 42:29
  Detective.
• 42:30
  And
• 42:31
  as
• 42:31
  always,
• 42:31
  thank
• 42:31
  you
• 42:32
  for
• 42:32
  your
• 42:32
  continued
• 42:32
  support
• 42:33
  of
• 42:33
  this
• 42:33
  podcast.
• 42:34
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• 42:35
  you
• 42:35
  want
• 42:35
  to
• 42:35
  help
• 42:35
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• 42:36
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• 42:36
  and
• 42:37
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• 42:37
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• 42:37
  by
• 42:37
  more
• 42:37
  people,
• 42:38
  seen
• 42:38
  I
• 42:39
  mean
• 42:39
  heard
• 42:39
  by
• 42:39
  more
• 42:40
  people
• 42:40
  even,
• 42:41
  then
• 42:41
  you
• 42:41
  could
• 42:42
  tell
• 42:42
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• 42:42
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• 42:42
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• 42:43
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