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Music Industry Harsh Truths, Love is Blind, and Aliens · Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast

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Andy: Did you buy a new cat or anything? Got a new dog in your life?
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Nick: Nope, just one that's dying. You want to talk about that?
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Nick: Oh, my God. It's going mad at hell.
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Andy: Wow.
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Andy: And we're back. Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast. I'm Andy Frasco.
0:25
Andy: How's our heads? How's our minds?
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Andy: How's the music industry doing?
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Andy: Oh, I love it.
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Andy: I love the music industry. Yeah, it's so great. It's so fun.
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Nick: Is every industry bad?
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Andy: It's so fun. It's so fun dealing with everyone.
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Nick: I like how there's no narcissist in it.
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Andy: Yeah, not one.
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Nick: Or people who are like, really have a big ego.
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Andy: Or daykeeping.
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Nick: Yeah, or pretentiousness.
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Andy: Yeah.
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Nick: Hollywood wannabe shit, but you live in Denver.
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Andy: Isn't it crazy how it's just such a pure industry?
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Nick: It's so pure.
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Andy: I love it. Yeah. Anyway, how you doing, Nick?
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Nick: Good. Just being gatekept.
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Andy: Yeah. What if I'm your gatekeeper? I'm like, no one gets funny,
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Andy: man, unless I get a little pocket, a little nut.
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Nick: That's really wide open for a joke there I'm not going to make.
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Andy: Just say it.
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Nick: No, because it's racist. No, it's more anti-Semitic, I guess. Is that racist? Ooh.
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Andy: Oh. Yeah, that's racist.
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Nick: You were even doing the voice. Jesus Christ. What, you were doing the voice even?
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Andy: No one gets a little bit till I get a little.
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Nick: Yeah, but I'm not going to help him get some either.
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Andy: But I'm not going to help him get some either. I'm just going to take. Yeah.
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Nick: Oh, so you're an agent.
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Andy: No, no. Chill, chill, chill.
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Nick: No, I actually like agents. We've been over this.
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Andy: Agents bring money What? Agents bring all the money.
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Nick: I'm pro-agent actually I'm pro-agent You can actually Quantify what they do What?
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Nick: You can quantify what they do Explain Well like if they like You can actually
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Nick: There's a hard data to say Like they got you this much money More than you got
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Nick: last year True You know what I'm saying?
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Andy: Everyone should call their agent Everyone Guys This is what you need to do Say
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Andy: I love you Tell your agent how much you love them Yeah.
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Nick: Send them 30 bucks
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Andy: Hey, grab my... Hey, Bo.
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Nick: Send him a Venmo for 30 bucks. Grab my phone.
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Andy: I'm going to call John Bon Joi.
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Nick: I was an agent for like a year one time. What? I was an agent for a while in like 2012.
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Andy: I was too.
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Nick: I was actually pretty solid.
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Andy: I was actually an agent during 2012 as well. Really?
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Nick: For who?
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Andy: Myself.
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Nick: Oh, okay. I did like some other like...
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Andy: I also booked... What's up, Bo? Thank you. Bo's back.
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Nick: I worked for Dan.
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Andy: Bo's back. He's back in the office.
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Nick: I worked for Dan Rosensky.
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Andy: Oh, yeah. Yeah. I.
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Nick: Was pretty good at it For like The bands I was trying to book
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Andy: Couple people I want to call.
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Nick: One Your agent I
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Andy: Want to call Bayless Talk about our Bayless tour I want to talk about Um Let's
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Andy: call it Bon Giorno first Bon.
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Nick: Giorno Mets are out of it
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Andy: Hey You're on the podcast I just want to say hi We're uh,
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Andy: You're on the podcast.
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Nick: Yep.
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Andy: Yep. We're, this is, we're doing, what are we doing today?
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Nick: Calling our agent to thank them.
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Andy: Calling your agent to tell them thank you for all the work and all the hard
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Andy: data. For all the hard data you've been giving us.
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Nick: Great metrics this year.
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Andy: We just want to say thank you so much for all you do for us.
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Nick: Yeah, man.
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John: Thank you. Thank you for all you guys do. You guys work hard. I don't know.
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John: You took me on the side here. I haven't even had coffee in like three hours.
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Andy: I know. Yeah, well, that's as good. You're not supposed to be crushing a bunch
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Andy: of coffee. Your heart's going to explode, John.
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Nick: Yeah. Oh, my God.
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John: I'm trying to get me a Celsius real quick.
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Nick: Proven to work.
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Andy: We're making sure all our bands, all the bands that listen to us,
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Andy: are going to call their agent and tell them how thankful they are that they
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Andy: bring all the money to the business.
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Andy: So I just want to say thank you so much for all that you do for us.
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Andy: Thank you for believing in us since the beginning.
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Andy: There's no bullshit here. We're just saying thank you.
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John: Yeah, it's going to be nine years next year.
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Nick: Whoa.
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Andy: Yeah, what'd you say? How was your fifth tenure?
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Nick: What's a nine-year anniversary?
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John: Yeah, I think on my roster, if you look at it today, I think he's been on the
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John: roster the fifth longest of everybody, which, you know, I think that's true.
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John: Hold on, let me check real quick. I don't know.
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John: It feels like the right answer. Let's see if he's been longer. Okay.
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John: That would be Wood. Well, Sean Obama doesn't do it. So, Les Claypool,
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John: Dillon's Escape Plan. Oh.
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John: Okay.
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Nick: They've been around that long.
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John: That's three. New Master Sounds. That's four. My dudes.
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John: And that's...
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Nick: But they're about to be dumped.
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John: And Dweezil Zappa is five, so you're six.
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Andy: Let's fucking go. Who's five? Dweezil Zappa.
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Nick: Oh, nice.
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John: He has the longest, actually. He's 20 years.
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Nick: Holy shit.
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John: I know. I was like in middle school looking at Dweezil Zappa shows.
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Andy: Well, John, I just want to, you know, no bullshit aside. There's no prerogative
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Andy: here. I just want to say thank you. Thank you for all your help.
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Nick: It's my prerogative.
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John: Thank you. I'm working so hard and always being there to, you know,
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John: always showing up and never canceling shows except for that one time. Except that one time.
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John: You felt so guilty that time.
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Andy: I know.
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John: You couldn't get over it. You were like, you know, you lived to the gym.
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Andy: I don't cancel shows. I'm always there for people, right? I'm always there for people. Yep.
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John: Never cancel shows by hell or what you can swim across the ocean.
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Nick: As long as that deposit goes through.
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Andy: I think I've always been there I'll see you Wednesday At the meeting buddy I'll
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Andy: talk to you soon Alright Love you buddy Bye The weekly meeting There John Bongiorno Thank.
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Nick: You Kiss your agent
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Andy: He knows exactly Why I did that.
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Nick: I don't actually know What's going on right now But I can kind of Figure it out I guess
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Andy: No Nothing There's no prerogative There's no gaslighting.
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Nick: Prerogative means choice
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Andy: Yeah I have a choice Okay.
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Nick: I don't know If you're exactly Doing that word right But okay you got a
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Andy: Better There's no gaslighting There's no passive aggressiveness I just wanted
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Andy: to thank Thank the agent for bringing us a majority of the money.
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Andy: That's all. Can I hear that? How you doing?
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Nick: I'm good. I'm a little tired, but I'm pretty good in general.
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Nick: Yeah. Looking forward to a great week.
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Andy: What are you tired of?
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Nick: Just like tired. I don't know.
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Andy: You know what I'm tired of? Let me fucking tell you.
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Nick: Oh, God.
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Andy: Gas prices.
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Andy: Hotel costs. Flight costs.
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Nick: Okay. All right. That's all. Gas is. Is it high right now? I never even look.
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Andy: What?
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Nick: At gas prices, it's just like nothing I can do about it.
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Nick: Nothing I can do about it. When people complain about gas prices,
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Nick: it's like it's magic juice that makes you go 80 miles an hour and you're complaining about it.
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Andy: No, no, no.
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Nick: You ever think about that, though?
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Andy: And then the people who complain are the ones who forcefully bought a car that
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Andy: only has like six miles per gallon. Yeah, exactly.
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Nick: You don't need that Ford or F-150. You're a salesman for an insurance company. You don't need to.
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Andy: What do you know about that? people bitch about gas, but they like,
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Andy: they're paying $700 a month for a fucking car that only has six miles per guy.
7:27
Nick: And then they Uber everywhere because they're alcoholics.
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Andy: Dude, you know what? Fuck. By the way,
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Andy: Fuck the DMV I was there all day today For what?
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Andy: I've been on tour for 7 months And my tags are,
7:45
Andy: No you do it online They won't let me I had to go inside And then they took
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Andy: me to some machine that does it automatically And then they wouldn't let me
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Andy: even get the tags So now I have to ride dirty For another 2 months until,
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Andy: 2026 tags are ready to go.
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Nick: On your personal vehicle? Yes Well, luckily no one in Denver gets a shit about
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Nick: that and no one gets pulled over.
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Andy: I've gone two tickets now. Parking tickets, but like with my tags expired.
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Nick: I have a friend.
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Andy: Fuck you, Cherry Creek.
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Nick: I won't say who he is. He has 2021 registration on his car and he hasn't gotten
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Nick: pulled over once. In Denver?
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Andy: Damn.
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Nick: They got bigger problems here, I guess.
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Andy: Damn.
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Nick: You don't really see a lot of cops. I don't want to jinx myself.
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Andy: I don't want to jinx myself. Yeah. No, I'm not trying to jinx myself.
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Andy: I drove to Blackhawk and I was like driving dirty, but I also was sober.
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Andy: Did you gamble? I just had a meeting with the bosses of Volume. Shout out.
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Nick: Yesterday?
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Andy: Yeah. He took me out to dinner.
8:40
Nick: How'd it go?
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Andy: It was good. He loves, he thinks our podcast is really popping off.
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Andy: Numbers are up. And he likes to thank Jack.
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Andy: Yeah, the numbers have gone, this is the highest our numbers have been for a long time.
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Nick: Yeah.
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Andy: So I like to thank Jack. I like to thank Matt. I like to thank Eva.
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Andy: I like to thank you. Thanks, Nick.
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Nick: A thankless cog in the wheel.
9:01
Andy: Didn't you like when I said, oh, yeah, me and Nick have a podcast together.
9:06
Andy: We're fucking partners. What's the podcast name? Andy Frasco's World Saved Podcast.
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Nick: Was that on again? Where was that? Was that on tour, like talking to somebody? I can't remember.
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Andy: We were talking to someone on the weekend.
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Nick: That was really funny, though. Yeah, you're like, yeah, we have a podcast together.
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Nick: We're equal partners. Everything is equal and we're the same.
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Andy: What's it called? Andy Frasco's podcast.
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Nick: The Andy Frasco podcast featuring Andy Frasco, a special guest Andy Frasco.
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Andy: Produced by Andy Frasco, directed by Andy Frasco. edited by Andy Frasco yeah yeah yeah,
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Andy: I'm sorry for.
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Nick: I don't care I think it's funny actually so I don't care
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Andy: Do you think I am.
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Nick: Like that? No I mean it was called that before I was on it
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Andy: No do you think I am like that? Do you think I share the ball?
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Nick: Yeah you're fine I've never been pissed at you about anything like that Because we've
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Andy: Had a little band drama.
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Nick: Here we go
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Andy: Lock in people We've had a little band.
10:01
Nick: Drama Everybody just went like this in their car. Everybody just lean forward
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Nick: like it was the end of a Madden game.
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Andy: We've had a whole band drama and, you know, we're just kind of just laying our cards out on the table.
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Andy: I mean, I realize we haven't done that ever in the existence of our career, 15 years. Really?
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Nick: You've never laid the cards out?
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Andy: I've never laid the cards out.
10:21
Nick: Ultimatum style?
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Andy: Ultimatum and just what I want. You know?
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Andy: Yeah. I always just kind of, it was really freeing to
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Andy: me to finally say exactly what i wanted yeah
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Andy: in something instead of just like keeping it in
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Andy: because you didn't don't want to like um piss people
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Andy: off you know like i i think the reason why i get passive aggressive because
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Andy: i'm afraid to talk to actually communicate so i don't communicate which makes
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Andy: me passive aggressive which also means i'm basically fighting with my own fucking
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Andy: head right for not actually being honest does that make sense it.
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Nick: Makes sense there's a i think it helps that you're more successful like you
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Nick: can be more like that when you're more successful like 10 years ago you just
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Nick: kind of have to take what you can get you know right when it comes that's true
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Nick: when it comes to band members it's like what are you gonna do like ask someone
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Nick: to come work for you for 75 bucks a week
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Andy: And then tell them exactly what you're doing wrong yeah you.
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Nick: Gotta pay a certain amount of money before you can be bossy
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Andy: Yeah well i always feel bad about that because you know we all started this
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Andy: we all started music because it was free you know it made us feel free you know
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Andy: it made us feel like rock and why i started rock and roll is because in my imaginary
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Andy: head now i realize it's completely,
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Andy: fucking off i know man the music industry is the least freeing thing on the planet well.
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Nick: I don't know about that that would be bold on the point yeah i know what you
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Nick: mean though Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. In entertainment.
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Andy: Least freeing thing versus what you thought was free.
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Nick: Okay, that's fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like there's other things that are
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Nick: terrible. Of course. But you know they're terrible.
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Nick: Yeah, I overjad her. I'll never forget. When I first started dating Julie,
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Nick: I don't know, she'd start going to backstage and stuff and thought it was fun.
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Nick: And she's like, the music industry is such a beautiful thing.
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Nick: And I was like, bitch, wait six months.
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Andy: Now what she's saying about the music industry. Now she works in it.
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Andy: I know what she's saying about it. She hates everybody, man.
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Nick: No, not really. But she definitely, like, doesn't suffer fools,
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Nick: you know? There's a lot of weird ego going around these days.
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Andy: Well, yeah, it's like...
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Nick: Everybody's trying to make up for their failures. Chill, chill,
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Nick: chill. It's not their fault they failed. I'm just saying, like...
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Nick: You're never going to, almost no musician gets to where they dreamed of.
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Andy: Oh, you're saying as a whole.
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Nick: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Andy: I mean, it takes a lot to be a fucking musician.
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Nick: There's no guarantees.
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Andy: I'm not trying to like woo is me bullshit.
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Andy: Mm-hmm. But it takes a lot to fucking make this your full-time job.
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Nick: Girl, you ain't lying.
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Andy: And it's not like, you have to be fucking dedicated.
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Andy: Yeah. And if you're not dedicated to it 120%, it's going to fucking eat you up.
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Nick: Just getting good at your instrument.
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Andy: Exactly.
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Nick: Just that level.
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Andy: And that's 10% of it.
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Nick: That's like the least important thing now. It's just sort of annoying, right?
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Andy: Or just like you get to the point where you're a really good musician,
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Andy: but you're also at that point where everyone who graduated college is a good
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Andy: musician. So how are you going to stand out? Right.
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Nick: I think a lot of people have a problem like with embarrassing them.
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Nick: Like it's a little embarrassing to promote yourself. You know what I'm saying?
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Nick: I think that kills a lot of people early. They don't want to like put themselves
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Nick: out there because they get shamed. I don't know.
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Andy: Everyone calls me a cheap ass because I haven't moved up to a big ass tour bus.
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Nick: I'm like, what's the point?
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Andy: What's the also like, once you go there, your band and everyone,
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Andy: your crew is expecting you to be on a tour bus.
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Andy: They're already divas. When I got them to the bandwagon.
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Nick: It's not that much different than the bandwagon. Is it?
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Andy: There's a little more space, but a little, but not really.
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Nick: But I mean, you know, compared to where you were two years ago,
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Andy: You can't, you can never go backwards. The minute you start going backwards,
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Andy: everyone starts fucking over-guessing, the fans saying, oh, this band dropped
14:05
Andy: off, or this band dropped off.
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Andy: Oh, we're expecting one thing. We want that now.
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Nick: Yeah, yeah.
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Andy: You know, you can't.
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Nick: So like- Yeah, armchair quarterbacks.
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Andy: Yeah, armchair quarterbacks.
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Nick: Jam band fans are really bad about that, actually. Yeah. They love to get involved
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Nick: in the business shit. It's like fancy football for them or something.
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Andy: But like, the fans have no idea how much it actually costs. No.
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Andy: They're just fucking, they're playing fantasy football coach.
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Nick: Yeah, exactly.
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Andy: That's what's bullshit. And then that puts more pressure on the musician that's
14:36
Andy: already having pressure internally.
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Nick: And it's like they revel in it. They like want people to fail weirdly.
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Nick: You know what I'm talking about?
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Andy: I don't understand that shit. I don't get, when did we get to a society where
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Andy: we are looking forward to people's failures more than we're looking forward
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Andy: to our people's successes?
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Nick: The American way.
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Andy: But I think that's the problem. The American dream made people so competitive
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Andy: that we don't have each other's backs anymore.
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Nick: But it's like these people aren't even in music. They're just fans and they're
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Nick: still rooting. And then they root for one band against... I don't know. It's so stupid.
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Andy: But it's even with like...
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Andy: How do I explain this without fucking burning it? But it's even with people who get...
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Andy: It's even people with setting up festivals or setting up tours.
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Andy: They're always going to pick what benefits the business instead of benefiting...
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Andy: Maybe the musician wants this band to come on tour.
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Nick: Martians are razor thin. That's why everybody's operating in a very low budget.
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Andy: I know, but if margins are super thin, we all got to work together and kind
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Andy: of play ball with each other.
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Nick: Yeah.
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Andy: Tour bus is inflating their costs just because they can.
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Nick: That's insane.
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Andy: Fucking up the living economy of touring that makes bands not want to tour.
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Andy: And then they wonder why they're inflated it because now bands are like,
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Andy: no, I'm good. I'm making money off fucking.
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Nick: Bandwagon.
16:19
Andy: Bandwagon or Twitch.
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Nick: Yeah, yeah.
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Andy: It's like they don't realize the ripple effect of not being in this together.
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Nick: Right, because they're like in that weird capitalist mindset where they're like
16:31
Nick: focused on right now instead of five years from now.
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Nick: And that's why a lot of those tour bus companies will probably go out of business at some point.
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Andy: Yeah. Tour buses are going to go out of business.
16:39
Nick: They did it to themselves.
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Andy: They did it to themselves. They overinflated when they're still trying to play
16:45
Andy: catch up from five years ago during COVID. They're caught up,
16:48
Andy: dude. They're caught up.
16:49
Nick: I'm sorry. You're caught up.
16:51
Andy: Start balancing the checkbooks a little bit.
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Nick: Yeah, dude. Don't you want to build a relationship with your clients?
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Andy: Tour bus companies, they piss me off so much.
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Nick: It's a racket.
17:01
Andy: So is...
17:03
Andy: So is rental gear companies.
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Nick: Yeah.
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Andy: They overcharge. For sure. Because they know you have to.
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Nick: 200 bucks for a keyboard for an hour or something.
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Andy: They've already made their money on it. I know it's a business.
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Nick: Yeah.
17:14
Andy: But like.
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Nick: What do they charge you? 10% of the cost of the instrument?
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Andy: You wonder why these promoters aren't, festival promoters aren't making any money because.
17:21
Nick: Uh-huh.
17:22
Andy: They're getting overcharged by the stage company. Yeah. They're getting overcharged.
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Nick: Port-a-potties.
17:29
Andy: By the port-a-potties. They're getting overcharged.
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Nick: Fencing. Fencing. So much shit goes into it.
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Andy: Rental gear.
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Nick: Security.
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Andy: They're getting overtrived by all that stuff.
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Nick: Undercover cops.
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Andy: And this is where I feel bad for, this is why I don't blame promoters for saying,
17:43
Andy: fuck this. I don't want to do a festival anymore.
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Nick: Yeah, I'll go work in finance. Fuck it. Yeah. If you're going to be miserable,
17:49
Nick: you might as well have a job where you make money.
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Andy: And, you know. And I feel like that's what musicians are doing too.
17:56
Nick: You're mad today. I like it.
17:57
Andy: I'm not mad.
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Nick: You know what I mean.
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Andy: I'm just disappointed.
18:02
Nick: Like a kid that got like C's on the report card
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Nick: I'm not mad I'm just disappointed
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Andy: I'm just not you know When do we become a country,
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Andy: That is just We're just so We just think of just ourselves Reagan,
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Andy: And that's not a community And that's why I think what makes me sad Is we become
18:27
Andy: people Who are if you're Not in my four people echo chamber.
18:32
Andy: I do not give a fuck about you. Yeah.
18:34
Andy: And I don't care. I'm protecting my herd or whatever.
18:39
Nick: Mm-hmm.
18:40
Andy: But...
18:42
Andy: Which is fine, but also we have to think about others, and we have to fucking
18:46
Andy: play ball all around with different ideas, different landscapes,
18:51
Andy: different ideologies, different thoughts, you know?
18:56
Nick: Yeah, I'm with you, 100%. I just don't think it's going to change.
18:59
Andy: It's never going to change. That's what makes me sad. I got in this rock and roll as rebellion.
19:05
Nick: Yeah, it was.
19:06
Andy: When did we stop being rebellious?
19:08
Nick: Imagine Dragons, maybe?
19:10
Andy: Actually, that's a good point.
19:12
Nick: As soon as it Target commercials with Imagine Dragons. I mean, you know what I mean?
19:16
Andy: When did we stop being rebellious as a country?
19:19
Nick: I'm telling you.
19:20
Andy: America was a fucking rebel.
19:22
Nick: The 80s. I'm telling you. It's all Reagan. Okay, explain this.
19:26
Nick: It's just people started getting rich in the 80s and the whole finance thing
19:29
Nick: and cocaine probably how it didn't hurt and just, you know, nationalism and I don't know.
19:35
Nick: I just think it all started in the 80s. The 70s didn't really feel like that, did it?
19:39
Andy: Yeah.
19:39
Nick: But that's kind of when rock music started sucking. right about the it was more than 90s but
19:44
Andy: Bands don't have each other's backs anymore no.
19:47
Nick: It's like sports
19:47
Andy: It's sports everything's competitive everybody talks
19:50
Andy: you're on like the same management company or the same agency
19:54
Andy: company no one's giving other bands a shot they're just going back to the well
19:58
Andy: passive aggressive and everyone's pissed off about how successful they are nepo
20:04
Andy: babies yeah i'm like i'm i'm the first time in my life i'm cool with my success yeah.
20:11
Nick: You're You're doing
20:11
Andy: Great. Yeah, but I could judge my success on other people that I used to do.
20:16
Nick: Slippery slope.
20:17
Andy: Yeah, and I feel free that way. But the minute I started doing that,
20:21
Andy: it's the minute I started...
20:23
Andy: getting lazy with my competition.
20:26
Nick: You know what you should do is also compare yourself to people who are doing much worse than you.
20:31
Andy: We don't punch down, Nick.
20:33
Nick: No, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying make fun of them. I'm just saying you gotta look at...
20:36
Andy: No, and that's what I've done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's more of...
20:40
Andy: We're losing the sense of community because we're making this so fucking competitive.
20:45
Nick: Yeah.
20:45
Andy: And that's what I... That's not the reason why I joined rock and roll.
20:51
Nick: Is there too many bands?
20:51
Andy: If it was individual... I would have been a fucking band manager,
20:56
Andy: which I was. Yeah, you're probably good at it. I was already a band manager.
20:59
Nick: I'm sure you were good at it.
21:00
Andy: For people who are listening to this podcast, I've already been a band manager.
21:05
Nick: Why are they?
21:08
Andy: Just, I don't know. I gotta speak subliminally, I can't.
21:10
Nick: You're doing your wizard thing, I don't know, I don't understand it.
21:13
Nick: I don't know, I don't understand passive aggressive stuff sometimes, I'm not very good at it.
21:16
Andy: I'm not passive aggressive.
21:17
Nick: Okay.
21:18
Andy: I am more of, I've been in this industry for a long fucking time.
21:24
Andy: And I think it's important that I have a say in this industry too.
21:30
Nick: Yeah, of course. You're the one making all the, like generating all the income.
21:33
Andy: Not in my individual business. Oh, okay. I'm saying the people who are making the gatekeeping stuff.
21:40
Nick: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:40
Andy: Should bring the people in who fucking did the dark work for 20 years. That's true.
21:49
Andy: Who was in the nid and gritty. Who knows what it takes to promote a show.
21:54
Andy: Not the people who gave up on music when they're 20 and now they're 60 years old.
22:01
Nick: You're speaking my language here, dude.
22:03
Andy: And they're the ones running the things where they have no idea.
22:05
Andy: They haven't been to fucking Manhattan, Kansas.
22:07
Nick: Yeah, they haven't been anywhere, really.
22:09
Andy: Right. Yeah. And that's what frustrates me.
22:11
Nick: Those are my leads for people in the music industry.
22:12
Andy: Why are they pushing us out?
22:14
Nick: Because they're nerds. I don't mean, they're just,
22:16
Andy: They're jealous. No, it's competitive.
22:19
Nick: Well, that too, but competitive and jealous kind of all goes together.
22:21
Andy: Is this crazy talk right now, Jack?
22:25
Andy: You think so? Am I really being that crazy right now?
22:28
Nick: No, you're being pretty much 100% correct, actually.
22:31
Andy: But it's not like, I'm not attacking anyone. This is a broad stroke. Yeah, broad stroke.
22:36
Andy: This isn't on my individual pains.
22:39
Andy: It's on the industry's individual pains of how we're going to figure out how
22:44
Andy: to make this music industry successful for another 100 years to the next generation. Yeah. Right?
22:50
Nick: Yeah, or 10 years even. 10?
22:52
John: Fuck, 3?
22:53
Nick: Yeah, it's not going good right now.
22:55
Andy: It's not going good. No one's buying tickets.
22:57
Nick: No, everything's doing bad.
22:58
Andy: Everything's inflated. The fucking CEO of Live Nation said they should be more expensive tickets.
23:02
Nick: That guy pissed me off so bad, dude.
23:03
Andy: That's what I'm saying.
23:04
Nick: The guy making $150 million a year.
23:06
Andy: What are we doing here?
23:07
Nick: What does he do that he gets $150 million a year off concert tickets?
23:10
Andy: We're not doing it for the money.
23:12
Nick: No.
23:14
Andy: Well, some people are. But musicians don't make any money.
23:17
Nick: Yeah, no one's like, I'm going to play saxophone so I'm going to be rich someday.
23:20
Andy: No. We lost the meaning of why we're doing music. And that is what makes me sad.
23:27
Nick: Yeah. I'm with you on that.
23:29
Andy: You know, we played music for the get out, the getaway.
23:35
Andy: I'm sorry. This is a 24 minute rant. I like it. It'll be more fun later.
23:39
Nick: Yeah. Just stick around.
23:40
Andy: We'll be live nation hit 7 billion in revenue for second quarter.
23:44
Nick: So that's 28 billion for the year. You know, assuming like it's ever all equal.
23:48
Nick: How much of that's profit though?
23:51
Andy: $6 billion in profit.
23:53
Nick: Yeah, fucking, come on, dude. That's a country.
23:55
Andy: Yeah.
23:56
Nick: That's a country in Europe.
23:58
Andy: And you want to charge more for tickets.
23:59
Nick: And this guy already makes $150 million a year. And I'm not, you know,
24:02
Andy: We all have to play ball. I'm not talking shit.
24:05
Nick: I'm not either, but fuck that guy kind of though.
24:07
Andy: What, the CEO?
24:08
Nick: Yeah.
24:09
Andy: Whatever. It's whatever. He's the CEO trying to make more money for his company. That's different.
24:14
Nick: I guess, but.
24:15
Andy: What we have to figure out as a community for live music and how we're going to keep all these.
24:20
Andy: I'm talking about the vendors who fucking do the festivals, the festival promoters
24:27
Andy: who now aren't taking risks to do festivals anymore.
24:31
Andy: That's most of our bottom line for musicians, especially in the jam scene.
24:37
Andy: We make money off fucking summer festivals.
24:42
Andy: We don't make money off club shows because the venues are charging too much
24:45
Andy: for the rooms, yada, yada.
24:48
Andy: we all need to be in a line together to say everyone the bout we need to balance this shit what.
24:55
Nick: You're calling for is a union almost
24:57
Andy: I'm sounding like a real socialist right.
24:59
Nick: Now yeah but
24:59
Andy: You're sounding like bernie sounders right now old bernie sanders the problem.
25:02
Nick: With that is like we can never have a musician's union because all the musicians
25:06
Nick: would have to do it together and they're never going to do that
25:08
Andy: But everyone needs to like say okay i get the old model worked but it's like,
25:16
Andy: from CD to digital you know everyone had great model when we were selling CDs
25:22
Andy: yeah we went to digital they changed the model yeah it should be the same while
25:27
Andy: we're losing all these big festivals yeah that's all I'm saying.
25:32
Nick: That makes sense
25:33
Andy: Anyway how was your day my day better than yours am I gonna get in trouble for that why.
25:39
Nick: Did you even say that was you didn't even attack anybody I know you were being very broad
25:43
Andy: I'm just It's just fucking It's just like Everyone's like We're a team We're
25:47
Andy: a fucking team We're a team brother We're a team We're the music industry We're
25:51
Andy: a fuck We're the outlaws We're the outlaws Oh really?
25:55
Andy: Mm-hmm Then let's be a team Let's actually be a team Yeah.
25:58
Nick: Until it's time To pick your openers
26:04
Nick: It's like our seventh evil frasco. Here he is.
26:10
Nick: My headphones are cutting out. There we go. I'm back.
26:13
Andy: Am I wrong?
26:14
Nick: No, you're right. That's the problem. That's why you're mad.
26:19
Andy: Am I wrong, Jack? Bo, am I wrong?
26:24
Nick: He's seen the P&Ls.
26:25
Andy: I'm working our ass off out here. Bo is fucking working. He's the hardest working man.
26:29
Nick: In show business.
26:30
Andy: In fucking show business.
26:31
Nick: Yeah, dude. He works for you.
26:33
Andy: He's on that and he's on ***. He's on everything. You know what I'm saying?
26:38
Andy: Yeah, I'm not. Yeah, bleep ***. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bleep ***.
26:42
Andy: But, you know, but you know what I'm saying.
26:45
Nick: I'm with you 100%.
26:45
Andy: These type of guys deserve the talking to for everyone leveling out the industry. Not me. Mm-hmm.
26:52
Andy: You're fighting for the guys who are running lights. Yeah. You're fighting for
26:55
Andy: the guys who are engineers.
26:57
Nick: Monitors.
26:57
Andy: Everyone who runs the syllabus of the business.
27:00
Andy: Not just the suits in the fucking 30-foot floor, the 30th floor delegating work.
27:07
Andy: Someone needs to fight for those guys.
27:09
Nick: The guys that don't go to the show unless it's in L.A.
27:11
Andy: Oh, man, my dad's going to fucking hate these. Like, you turned into a real socialist.
27:15
Nick: Yeah, but you're right.
27:16
Andy: I know!
27:17
Nick: You're not being a communist, at least.
27:19
Andy: No. Ew. I'm not saying even shitty musicians need to make the same amount as money.
27:24
Nick: No, there's also too many bands.
27:26
Andy: I don't know. I think less and less bands are coming out than ever.
27:29
Nick: Yeah, maybe there's too many musicians actually Well,
27:33
Andy: We all got sold The American dream that you could do whatever you want Yeah, that's a lie,
27:39
Andy: Maybe it was Back then when there was less people But now overpopulation Now
27:44
Andy: you can't do whatever you want It's about how hard you're gonna work To get what you want Then.
27:50
Nick: You might still
27:50
Andy: Fail And you might still fail and you gotta be okay with that But at least in
27:53
Andy: your brain you fucking tried Yeah.
27:55
Nick: It's better to fail than not try
28:00
Nick: Rebellion.
28:01
Andy: This is why we're in the music industry.
28:03
Nick: People. Yeah.
28:04
Andy: Don't be as scared to rebel. All right.
28:09
Andy: So you got, did you buy a new cat or anything? Got a new dog in your life or?
28:12
Nick: Nope. Just one that's dying. You want to talk about that?
28:19
Nick: Oh my God. It's going mad in hell.
28:22
Andy: I'm just not mad. I'm not mad. I'm more just like.
28:26
Nick: You're not wrong.
28:26
Andy: I'm like past mad. I'm just like kind of defeated. And that's what bones me out.
28:31
Nick: Yeah. I got to know what inspired this today.
28:34
Andy: What?
28:35
Nick: I got to know what inspired this today.
28:37
Andy: Um i don't want to get into it
28:39
Andy: the main details are not important it's
28:43
Andy: just the the syllabus of how how we're
28:46
Andy: running this industry is um unethical to
28:49
Andy: how i yeah that's true the reason why
28:53
Andy: i joined the music industry when i was fucking 11 years old reading
28:56
Andy: all you need to know about the music industry by donald pass in
28:59
Andy: my first ever book at 11 years old i read
29:01
Andy: that book in guerrilla marketing and i'm like and it's
29:05
Andy: the same reason why i got fucking fired at geffen records at
29:08
Andy: 19 when i wrote them a 200 page fucking i
29:11
Andy: wrote her pages i wrote a 200 page business outlook of
29:14
Andy: how we can approach this is 06 right after napster when everyone's the stealing's
29:20
Andy: done now it's going to spotify and like new world and i wrote this whole beautiful
29:25
Andy: marketing plan beautiful i sound like trump there i sound i wrote this i wrote
29:29
Andy: this great marketing plan and they fired me they.
29:33
Nick: Probably took all your ideas and fired
29:34
Andy: They fucking fired me that was
29:38
Andy: that was when i started become evil andy evil andy
29:42
Andy: just like i'm gonna start a i'm gonna start a new form
29:45
Andy: of how musicians i'm i'm gonna
29:48
Andy: teach musicians how to fucking be self-sufficient with
29:51
Andy: their shit how to be fucking powerful in your own world and not relying on others
29:56
Andy: to for your success the only way you are six your success is if you put fucking
30:02
Andy: ownership in the work ethic that you fucking do i'm gonna clap for myself thank you.
30:09
Nick: So you've been watching Love is Blind at all?
30:12
Andy: Yeah, I love Love is Blind. That pisses me off too.
30:16
Andy: I'm like, I moved to Denver because we're fucking weird. And I saw fucking Love
30:20
Andy: is Blind and they fucking, I told you, I got through, I was going to be on that show.
30:25
Nick: No, I didn't even hear about this.
30:27
Andy: Yeah, I didn't tell you this last year?
30:28
Nick: No, no.
30:29
Andy: Dude, the producer called me up
30:31
Andy: and said, hey, you're like a famous single person in Denver. Love is gay.
30:39
Andy: i'm like you know so i was thinking about like that'd be fun to do yeah but
30:42
Andy: also fucking you gotta get married terrorizing though right well they they start
30:46
Andy: you know they start nick picking yeah yeah yeah your personal flaws how.
30:51
Nick: Christian are you how many kids do you want to have yeah it's the most boring
30:54
Nick: people i've ever seen in my life
30:55
Andy: But they shouldn't you know bo had a good point they should do a little more
30:59
Andy: of the other side of fucking denver yeah it's.
31:01
Nick: Like It's all like CU Boulder finance graduates.
31:04
Andy: Yeah, they had a guy selling watches in Dillon. Like, who fucking buys watches in Dillon?
31:08
Nick: Also, what kind of... No wonder you're single.
31:11
Andy: Like, the homie's wearing a $200,000 Paddock watch.
31:14
Nick: Oh, really?
31:14
Andy: I was like... Damn. This is not a fucking Colorado... This isn't who I see at fucking Don's.
31:21
Andy: No. Or this isn't the fucking crowd I see at Cervantes.
31:24
Nick: And they're all, like, weirdly, kind of weirdly conservative.
31:26
Nick: I don't mean politically. I'm just talking about, like, their lifestyle.
31:29
Nick: Yeah. They're like... Like, where's the... No one has the bag on them.
31:31
Andy: I've never seen a Tanner in Denver.
31:33
Nick: No, I don't see him anywhere. It's like none of these guys has the bag on them.
31:36
Nick: This is Denver, dude. One of these guys got to have the bag on them. Yeah.
31:39
Andy: Someone told me one of the guys, the real estate broker, has like scammed like fucking 50 people.
31:44
Nick: Julian was telling me that. He's scammed my favorite Asian restaurant.
31:47
Andy: What'd he do?
31:47
Nick: I don't know. She just said he scammed him, but who knows? He probably just
31:50
Nick: like fucked him over in some deal. Oh, yeah. How are you going to scam over immigrants?
31:54
Andy: Ryan Dempsey. Uh-oh. Ryan.
31:58
Andy: Hey, Ryan, you're on the podcast.
32:02
Ryan: Oh, good. I'm happy to be on your podcast.
32:06
Andy: Ryan Dempsey from Twiddle. Give it up for Ryan. Hey, Ryan.
32:09
Ryan: Yay!
32:10
Ryan: Can I clap? Yeah.
32:12
Andy: What's going on? What do you know about these aliens? Good.
32:17
Ryan: Things are getting so crazy right now.
32:21
Ryan: Congress is literally like they're all looking into you UAPs.
32:29
Ryan: So the word UFO became UAPs, and there are the anomalies that can go from one to 300,000 miles.
32:43
Ryan: I mean, yeah, like in the ocean, my friend from the Navy says they go one to 300,000 miles an hour.
32:53
Andy: Oh my God, it's nuts.
32:54
Ryan: And the weird part, though, is they also know exactly where the jets that are
33:03
Ryan: chasing them and firing missiles are going to land.
33:09
Ryan: And they fired a missile at it, and it just kind of just blew it apart.
33:14
Andy: Oh, yeah.
33:16
Ryan: They're way smarter than us.
33:18
Andy: Do you think they're here to harm us? So the thing they're here to say,
33:21
Andy: we, you guys, I know you guys have the matches. You're going to stop.
33:27
John: I, I would say the same thing. Like the kids have the matches.
33:33
Andy: I think dad's coming home and saying you need to stop.
33:37
Andy: So let's fucking, let's all take care of each other, you know,
33:40
Andy: lock in and lock in. Yeah, baby, let's lock it. Atlas is coming. We better lock in.
33:46
Nick: What's lock in.
33:48
Andy: Atlas is coming. Lock it.
33:50
Nick: Yeah.
33:52
Ryan: Andy, can I ask you for like a hundred grand and I promise I'll pay you back?
34:00
Andy: Shit, my phone's dying, Dempsey. I got to call you back. Sorry.
34:04
Andy: Hey, bud, I do owe you a call. Let me get through this podcast and I'll call you today.
34:10
Andy: I love you, buddy. Thanks for answering. Love you, bud. Love you, bud.
34:17
Andy: You love your bands, don't you? You really love your bands. If you really want
34:21
Andy: to love your bands and you really love your bands and want to support them the
34:23
Andy: real way, head to volume.com and subscribe.
34:26
Andy: Volume.com! Yes, this is the best live stream company in the business. Get your bands paid.
34:33
Andy: You can subscribe for five bucks a month. The shows are super quality.
34:36
Andy: They have great cameras, great audio, backstage footage, extra live streams.
34:41
Andy: You want to get closer to the artist too? Where you get to meet us.
34:44
Andy: It's like I'm doing Monday morning motivations where we could all have coffee
34:47
Andy: together and talk about how we're going to achieve and attack the week.
34:51
Andy: So this is how you could support your favorite artists. Head over to volume.com and let's get personal.
34:55
Andy: Anyway, aliens to the music industry. What else do you want to talk about?
34:59
Andy: Jesus Christ. What a fucking episode.
35:03
Nick: Halftime show?
35:04
Andy: Oh, yeah. Love is blind.
35:06
Nick: Love is blind.
35:07
Andy: Then I was pissed. Then this whole week has been crazy. Then I was kind of pissed. It's a J.Crew.
35:12
Nick: Commercial. It looks like a J.Crew commercial in that fucking shit.
35:15
Andy: I'm like, Love is Blind is really going to portray Denver, my fucking hometown?
35:19
Andy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I fucking love.
35:21
Nick: Douchebags. It looks like they all like-
35:23
Andy: I was like, but I'm getting sidebars. Like, you live here, bro?
35:26
Andy: I'm like, you're watching Love is Blind too, bro.
35:28
Nick: Looks like a Chainsmokers crowd.
35:33
Nick: Trying to inject some comedy into this.
35:37
Andy: Let's call Bayless. Let's call Bayless.
35:42
Nick: Oh.
35:43
Andy: Wow, what a...
35:44
Nick: He might be picking up the kids at school.
35:46
Andy: The Bayless Frasco tour was amazing. We'll talk about that for a second.
35:50
Andy: He knows. If I'm calling him at 320, he knows. He might be baseball. Oh. Call me.
35:59
Andy: Jack, how we feeling about this episode, bud?
36:04
Nick: I actually think it's kind of good. It's not like hilarious,
36:06
Nick: but I think it's good. You know what I mean?
36:10
Andy: It's thumping.
36:11
Nick: It's better than nothing.
36:12
Andy: Oh, look it. Life's not always going to be fucking roses and butterflies. Nope.
36:16
Nick: Almost never is, actually.
36:18
Andy: The festival is fun, though. Holy smokes.
36:21
Nick: Yeah, I want to hear about this. So you went to Cleveland of all places and had a festival.
36:25
Andy: We did. I can't. Little Stranger is really big in Ohio.
36:30
Nick: Really?
36:30
Andy: And we're decently big. We'll do pretty well in Columbus. It was a good meeting
36:35
Andy: of the minds, but that fucking Nelson's Legends. I loved it.
36:38
Andy: It's a great place. Yeah.
36:39
Andy: But some of the people who run that thing is pretty wild.
36:41
Nick: Scary, huh?
36:42
Andy: They're like Hell's Angels and shit running that shit.
36:44
Nick: Yeah.
36:45
Andy: They had one person. Cause they also Like It was a great experience Like 2,600 people showed up 2,600.
36:52
Nick: Browns fans Hell
36:53
Andy: Yeah And it was like Only We only had three weeks To promote it I know So it
36:56
Andy: was like People really wanted to come But also like Right next to the campgrounds
37:01
Andy: There's like Where people Like people just rent Like a fucking trailer park
37:06
Andy: Or whatever There's camping,
37:07
Andy: That part of the area A lot of people Were getting kicked out For like smoking crack and shit Oh shit.
37:11
Nick: Hell yeah But that was not associated With the festival Yeah
37:16
Andy: No. It was like, it was just, the place is so beautiful. Yeah.
37:19
Nick: I've been there. It's awesome. I played a couple festivals there actually.
37:22
Andy: But we had a fucking blast and we went in the crowd and it showed how much love.
37:26
Andy: They just wanted a stranger and us to throw a festival and I think,
37:30
Andy: we're going to do it every year, right?
37:32
Andy: Should we do it every year? We probably should. Little Strangler.
37:34
Andy: Huge success. That's my cereal. I mean, that was more people,
37:36
Andy: more people showed to them than a lot of these festivals were going to.
37:39
Nick: For sure. That's my cereal co-name actually I just realized.
37:42
Nick: What? Little Strangler.
37:43
John: Little Strangler.
37:46
Andy: Oh fuck that was so funny.
37:49
Nick: A lot of browns jerseys out there I saw I like that hell yeah man
37:52
Andy: But other than that it's been good it looked.
37:54
Nick: Really like it went really well how'd the band play
37:57
Andy: Band played great I thought our second show was better than our first because why I don't know,
38:03
Andy: me and Strange is a little bit of this competition which is kind of like a healthy
38:07
Andy: competition I guess but we still like you know even when we're competing we
38:12
Andy: still have each other's backs.
38:15
Nick: God damn it
38:19
Andy: Why am i like this today i don't.
38:21
Nick: Know man you were pretty chill right before the let me turn the mics on here
38:26
Nick: we go baby i'm not mad it's i mean you're right
38:28
Andy: I'm like not mad.
38:30
Nick: No i just
38:31
Andy: Feel just disappointed i'm about i'm just disappointed yeah yeah yeah i just
38:36
Andy: you know want us all to come together,
38:41
Andy: lock in before atlas shows up i'm.
38:44
Nick: Ready for atlas let's do something new man i'm just like i'm ready for some new shit man fuck it
38:48
Andy: Do you think i just don't want them to like i don't want to if they're gonna
38:51
Andy: kill us i want them to kill us like right away i don't want this to be like a fucking slow.
38:56
Nick: No no no i want to be vaporized and just go to wherever
38:59
Andy: Just go just take us just whatever it's fine let me.
39:02
Nick: Get some tacos first maybe one last time or something but like i don't know
39:06
Nick: maybe I've always thought it'd be kind of cool to be alive for the end of the world.
39:09
Andy: Yeah, it'd be fun.
39:10
Nick: People always get weird when I say that. I'm like, well,
39:12
Andy: Someone- We also don't have kids, so it's not as scary for us. That's true.
39:15
Nick: We don't have kids or anything really.
39:17
Andy: We don't have anything to look forward to.
39:20
Nick: We don't have any purpose or meaning in our life, so yeah.
39:22
Andy: Nothing matters.
39:23
Nick: It is much easier. Woo!
39:25
Andy: World Saving Podcast today is just super sad.
39:27
Nick: We're like, World Saving Podcast. Let's end the world.
39:30
Andy: No, no. I don't think. I think they come and give us knowledge.
39:33
Andy: I'm going to be optimistic about this. If the aliens come, they're gonna come just.
39:36
Nick: Like why would they come all the way here to kill us because we're not a threat
39:38
Nick: to them so maybe you're right
39:39
Andy: Right what would they do they need our resources they're gonna travel that.
39:43
Nick: Long what if they need water okay then we're fucked
39:47
Andy: Then we're fucked.
39:48
Nick: If they got here they have more they have better shit than us who do you know
39:50
Andy: That knows aliens do you know anyone know an alien.
39:53
Nick: I mean the aliens thing is pretty interesting I just feel like nothing ever
39:56
Nick: happens it's always some threat
39:58
Nick: of this every two years and then nothing happens right it's gonna be a do
40:01
Andy: You know about Project Bluebeam.
40:03
Nick: Ooh what's that Ooh.
40:04
Andy: Sounds like Project Bluebeam.
40:06
Nick: Sounds like an ice cream company.
40:07
Andy: This is turning into a Rogan podcast immediately. Yeah.
40:10
Nick: Without all the viewers.
40:12
Andy: Project Bluebeam is Serge Monisat. What's that?
40:16
Nick: That's the guy that thought of it probably. The Canadian. He's dead actually.
40:20
Andy: What is Project Bluebeam?
40:21
Nick: Drones.
40:23
Andy: It's basically like the recent surge of mysterious drones, blah,
40:27
Andy: blah, blah, Project Bluebeam. Since mid-November. The lack of answers.
40:30
Andy: Yeah, it's like this. They're faking the alien invasion. They're faking the alien invasion.
40:34
Nick: I mean, that seems like some shit, because there's a bunch of shit they're doing
40:36
Nick: they don't want people to see, Epstein files, et cetera.
40:39
Andy: Huh.
40:40
Nick: Everything's just a distraction, man.
40:42
Andy: Everything's just so distracted, man.
40:46
Nick: With soda it's so hard to give a shit anymore this episode
40:49
Andy: Should be called dun.
40:50
Nick: Dun dun i know we need to have a dun dun dun counter in the corner can we do
40:54
Nick: that brian i don't know yeah i don't know what's
40:58
Andy: Really fucked up about this ai thing is like i think this is actually good for
41:03
Andy: social media because no one will fucking want to be on social media anymore
41:06
Andy: because everything is so fake.
41:07
Nick: Oh yeah it already was but now you can like actually prove it now
41:10
Andy: It's just like boring there's no.
41:11
Nick: Realness yeah social media is kind of dead we already talked i'm
41:14
Andy: Kind of over social.
41:15
Nick: Media it's just not fun so
41:16
Andy: What are we gonna do with our business then if social media is.
41:19
Nick: Dead i mean it's good for marketing but i'm just talking about like the yeah
41:23
Nick: it's a good marketing platform but besides that like just like the shit where
41:26
Nick: it's like i don't know just like post about opinions is stupid but it's it's good to reach people i
41:32
Andy: Think so too.
41:32
Nick: I don't know like it's you know the more good something has the more bad it
41:35
Nick: has i guess for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction newton's
41:39
Nick: third law of thermodynamics you
41:40
Andy: Know like all All jokes aside, between Love is Blind, I kind of love these,
41:44
Andy: like, social experiments about getting married shows.
41:46
Nick: Have you seen Married at First Sight?
41:48
Andy: No, what's that all about?
41:49
Nick: It's like you marry someone right away, and then you have to, like, work it out.
41:52
Nick: A girl that comes to trivia regularly, I'm not going to say her name,
41:55
Nick: was on one of the seasons of that. Really? Yeah, she comes every week.
41:58
Andy: I'll show you. Did she divorce her?
41:59
Nick: Yeah, it didn't work out. I mean, only a crazy, like, the guy was worse than
42:04
Nick: her, but it's for crazy people.
42:05
Nick: And then they edit it to make you look even, editing is a powerful tool, man.
42:09
Nick: You know? Yeah. You can make people look really crazy with some good editing.
42:12
Nick: Yeah. Can you imagine if you cut down all the shit I said out of context?
42:16
Nick: I could be the most racist man on earth.
42:20
Andy: Well, that's the problem with this, like, open, like, the Sora thing.
42:23
Andy: You heard about the Sora thing? Yeah.
42:26
Andy: Open-faced AI where you could kind of, like, if you have, you could have control
42:29
Andy: of people's AIs that make these videos.
42:31
Nick: Yeah. I don't know. There's going to be good stuff and obviously terrible stuff
42:35
Nick: that comes out of it, but just like every other thing. The problem is you can't fight it.
42:38
Andy: Open my AI so people can make videos, I think it'd be fun for my fans.
42:42
Nick: Yeah, I think
42:44
Nick: Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's not that. I don't think you have to license yourself.
42:47
Andy: It'd be awesome if like.
42:49
Nick: Hopefully there's a way you can find to make money off it. That'd be cool.
42:51
Andy: Holy shit, Frasco's the Pope. I remember people believed it.
42:57
Nick: Just throwing oil on people. Yeah, throwing oil.
42:59
Andy: Throwing Jagermeister.
43:00
Nick: What would your Pope name be? Because you have to change your name when you're Pope.
43:03
Andy: Is it Sir?
43:04
Nick: No, it's Pope something. Oh. Like Pope Leo's name isn't Pope.
43:08
Nick: Pope. Because it isn't Leo. It's like John.
43:11
Andy: Open A, right, copyright. it's.
43:12
Nick: Like when uh the queen does that too you know
43:14
Andy: Open ai to explain this this okay go down so ai the copyright stuff it's it's
43:22
Andy: been weird to see how a how ai performs on stuff that you can't you can't say
43:27
Andy: hey i need you to uh put me in a star wars form no.
43:31
Nick: I can't do
43:32
Andy: That but if you say all the things that star wars is then they put it in that's
43:37
Andy: still copyright infringement i.
43:38
Nick: I did that to make my friend look Arab the other day.
43:41
Andy: Hey, come over here. Talk about it. We have our tech guy here.
43:43
Andy: Jack. Jack, producer, get in this mic.
43:49
Andy: So what's going on?
43:52
Jack: So the issue is that OpenAI doesn't care about anyone's copyright.
43:58
Andy: Put the mic closer to you.
43:59
Jack: Or intellectual property.
44:00
Andy: Okay.
44:01
Jack: And so their policy is basically we're going to do it anyway and we'll see if
44:06
Jack: anyone finds us for it or sues us for it or whatever.
44:10
Jack: Well, that's bad for the music industry. Oh, yeah, it's bad for every industry.
44:13
Jack: And so there's going to be a bunch of lawsuits and eventually they will have-
44:17
Andy: Who are they suing, though? ChatGPT?
44:20
Jack: Yeah, people will be suing OpenAI.
44:22
Jack: So like Disney will sue OpenAI or Nintendo or whatever these companies are whose
44:28
Jack: IPs are being used without their consent.
44:32
Jack: Right. So there will be a bunch of lawsuits. open ai
44:35
Jack: will probably lose those lawsuits and have to
44:37
Jack: pay a bunch of money but they don't care because basically
44:41
Jack: as long as they get there first and get the most users as quick as possible
44:46
Jack: they'll make so much money that even if they have to pay billions of dollars
44:51
Jack: of fines and stuff it's worth it
44:53
Andy: yeah yeah so what's the difference between uh chat gpt and google ai.
44:59
Jack: Um none really yeah
45:02
Jack: they're kind of the same things they have uh the
45:05
Jack: thing is like google owns youtube so they're able
45:08
Jack: to crawl youtube oh wow um for stuff
45:11
Jack: for ai um versus open ai doesn't
45:14
Jack: have their own platform so that's why they're letting everybody just
45:17
Jack: feed them stuff um but yeah
45:21
Jack: it's it's like the tech company that's how
45:24
Jack: they all do it basically it's like the move fast and break things mark
45:27
Jack: zuckerberg deal like we'll just build it and then
45:30
Jack: we'll pay the fines and it doesn't really matter right which
45:34
Jack: shows a really broken economic system
45:36
Andy: i
45:36
Andy: t is
45:37
Andy: yeah it's like everyone's like just sue me
45:39
Jack: yeah
45:40
Andy: and
45:40
Andy: this is a battle of how much money you have yeah and that's
45:44
Andy: not fair either what that's like uh well that the wealth is
45:47
Andy: that two percent and then everyone else can't afford
45:50
Andy: to sue the two percent
45:51
Jack: yeah you know it's it's uh oligarchy you know that's
45:55
Jack: great we're in russia now
45:56
Andy: wow anyway another this is like another sobering podcast
46:01
Andy: of all time should we not post
46:03
Jack: this one maybe is just for the archives i don't
46:06
Jack: know for the for the only frasco subscribers yeah.
46:14
Andy: Hello, everyone. It's Eddie Frasco, your local drunk. We're here to support Gardenista.
46:19
Andy: Gardenista, our sponsors. So I've been substituting this from Jameson because
46:23
Andy: I like the idea that there's ginger, lime juice, and green herbs in this.
46:29
Andy: So I kind of feel healthy drinking this.
46:30
Andy: And they got all these different ones. Like, I was kind of nervous about this bourbon cocktail.
46:34
Andy: But it's bourbon whiskey, green herbs, lime juice, ginger, and jalapeno.
46:38
Andy: It's got a little spice to it, but you put some ice in it, and it's actually
46:41
Andy: a cocktail. and like I'm not really good at proportions so it's already made for you.
46:46
Andy: Look at this. It's cute too. It could be on your table.
46:48
Andy: You'd be like, oh, looky, you're sophisticated.
46:51
Andy: Do you want pop-off on your kitchen table or do you want something that's pretty?
46:55
Andy: Gardenista. Vodka cocktail.
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47:02
Andy: All right, guys. Are we done here?
47:05
Nick: No, I'm not done. And another thing!
47:08
Andy: Hold on. Let's call Todd. Oh, God. Maybe Todd will have something nice to say.
47:13
Nick: Andy Frasco.
47:14
Andy: Let's keep it going.
47:16
Nick: Yeah, let's put this one on the Patreon or whatever, or the only Frasco.
47:19
Andy: I think this could be fun.
47:21
Nick: No, I think it's actually not that bad. Everything doesn't have to be fucking...
47:24
Andy: God damn it, Todd.
47:25
Nick: Damn, he put you on do not disturb, co.
47:28
Andy: Call me.
47:29
Nick: Kale me.
47:30
Andy: Um, kakale me.
47:32
Nick: Um, the thing with the... It's like what we've been... I've been harping on
47:35
Nick: this for years. Tech nerds should not be in charge of anything.
47:37
Nick: They should not be running companies. They should definitely not be in anything creative.
47:41
Nick: They've never made anything They got picked on their whole life And now they're
47:44
Nick: taking it out in the world
47:46
Nick: I've been saying this And guess what, I was right, unfortunately I hate that
47:50
Nick: I was right, but I was Today Josh Fairman called me When I was in the shower
47:55
Nick: Just to ask me a trivia question Oh really?
47:59
Nick: He goes, what play was Lincoln watching When he got shot in the head And I knew
48:04
Nick: it They were impressed So if you know it, put it in the comments Hold on it's called a call to
48:11
Andy: Action a call to action I'm calling my dad oh no,
48:17
Andy: he's got something to say President Frasco he's got something to say he won't
48:23
Andy: answer he knows everyone doesn't answer now because they know if I'm calling
48:26
Andy: them randomly at 3.30pm yeah yeah yeah,
48:31
Andy: they know they're on the podcast the phrase.
48:32
Nick: Nazi Spongebob is in this article so that's cool
48:36
Andy: Nazi Spongebob oh yeah I heard about that.
48:39
Nick: AI's gonna heal everything Nope, Nazi Spongebob AI's gonna make everything so
48:43
Nick: much easier You're not gonna have to do your taxes anymore Something's gonna
48:46
Nick: take out the trash for you Actually, nah, Nazi Spongebob
48:52
Nick: now you have to do menial tasks your calendar will be done someone's going to
48:55
Nick: send emails for you Nazi Spongebob
49:00
Nick: sorry people got it we're making Nazi Spongebob instead
49:06
Nick: quality of life is going to go up so much we're going to live longer it's going
49:10
Nick: to be easier everything's going to get cheaper Nazi Spongebob
49:15
Andy: I do like this Soar app it's kind of.
49:17
Nick: Fun it's just fun Yeah, until you get Nazi Spongebob.
49:21
Andy: Until you get Nazi Spongebob.
49:21
Nick: Or whatever version of that. We're going to get Nazi Frasco at some point.
49:24
Andy: We're going to get Nazi Frasco.
49:27
Nick: Criminal Pikachu, you know what I mean?
49:29
Andy: Criminal Pikachu.
49:30
Nick: Sexual Assault Spider-Man.
49:32
Andy: Look at this one I made. Look at this one I made.
49:37
Nick: So stupid.
49:40
Andy: But you could do like...
49:41
Nick: Finance Bro Bart Simpson.
49:43
Andy: I did Jake Paul holding hands on the beach and saying, will you and very slowly,
49:48
Andy: cuts back to Jake say do a line with me.
49:50
Nick: Well that's funny. It looks like you?
49:53
Andy: No it looks like Jake. Jake's the one who has open AI.
49:56
Nick: He said you can make whatever you...
49:57
Andy: Yeah.
49:58
Nick: Jake's always on the cutting edge of whatever's going on unfortunately.
50:01
Andy: I did this one.
50:02
Nick: Yeah you. Fuck you. And you over there? Fuck you. Not you. You're cool. But you?
50:06
Andy: Fuck you.
50:07
Nick: Back row? Fuck you. You with the laptop? Fuck you too. And the whole side section?
50:10
Nick: Fuck off. You just type in like a two sentence prompt and it makes you do it
50:15
Andy: You can make a paragraph.
50:15
Nick: Oh my god i'm gonna spend all night so dude
50:18
Andy: I i had so much fun last night.
50:20
Nick: I need a bag in that i
50:21
Andy: Need a bag in that um all right guys.
50:24
Nick: Anyway follow your dreams what's cool about ai is it's gonna like it will like
50:29
Nick: go ahead and like like all these like stupid things no nazi spongebob actually no well
50:35
Andy: Like you know ai's getting so good like,
50:38
Andy: You don't believe anything anymore.
50:39
Nick: I never did to begin with. So now I believed everything. I know you.
50:43
Andy: I was the believer of the American dream.
50:45
Nick: Sometimes I just want to pet your head and say, yep, everything's real, buddy.
50:48
Andy: Everything is real.
50:49
Nick: Yeah. Nope. Mussolini, Rick and Morty. Sorry.
50:54
Andy: All right, guys. You don't understand.
50:56
Nick: This is going to usher in a utopia. Nope. Nazi SpongeBob.
51:00
Nick: The tech people promised us a utopia and we got Nazi SpongeBob.
51:05
Andy: Yeah, exactly. you know those posters Jerry.
51:09
Nick: Jones is basically Nazi Spongebob anyway what you
51:11
Andy: Know those posters of like the few in the 60s that made the picture of the future,
51:17
Andy: just fucking flying cars all we have is Nazi Spongebob.
51:20
Nick: Now yeah exactly we do have flying cars they're called helicopters people yeah
51:25
Nick: I've had those for a while I don't know yeah well people can barely fucking
51:28
Nick: drive in Denver as it is on the ground and everybody's fucking tags are expired
51:31
Nick: last thing I want is people in the air driving cars we
51:34
Andy: Have Nazi Spongebob and p diddy that's our.
51:38
Nick: Future real p diddy anyway
51:40
Andy: Follow your dreams people yeah let's live.
51:44
Nick: Here comes that fucking what's it called atlas here comes at what if it's just like 800 nazi spongebob
51:50
Andy: We were real the whole time i.
51:53
Nick: Told you they're just speaking german looking for andy frasco
51:58
Andy: He's talking about freedom.
52:00
Nick: Yeah we're here to fucking help the lakers this will help your fantasy football
52:04
Nick: team guys it'll tell you who you start and sit who to drop it also will give
52:09
Nick: you a lot of nazi spongebob
52:13
Nick: that's funny a
52:14
Andy: Lot of people are using chat gpt as their therapist.
52:17
Nick: Yeah i do that all the time i'm like am i cool am i smart am i handsome here's
52:21
Nick: a picture of me am i handsome no i'm just kidding it's
52:24
Andy: Pretty uh i haven't used it yet i use it.
52:26
Nick: For stuff what
52:28
Andy: Do you use it for.
52:28
Nick: Um sometimes is just like a search engine to write trivia questions.
52:32
Nick: So I'm like, give me 30 examples of celebrities who've gotten DUIs.
52:36
Nick: It's easier than using Google. It kind of just does it for you.
52:39
Nick: Puts them all in place or...
52:42
Nick: just shit like that am I cool do people like me you know what I mean am I a
52:48
Nick: burden on everyone around me should I just become Nazi Spongebob
52:53
Andy: Nazi Spongebob is so fucking wild.
52:56
Nick: Dude look at it it's right there where
52:59
Andy: Is it I want to see a picture of it.
53:00
Nick: They want their AI generated things on the app like Nazi Spongebob criminal Pikachu
53:07
Andy: Nazi Spongebob oh my god oh my god,
53:13
Andy: oh my god.
53:16
Nick: He's doing rogan next week actually did you know that there
53:18
Andy: It is did you see it go back what nazi spongebob.
53:22
Nick: He's going on rogan next oh word where's
53:25
Andy: Like the actual movie.
53:26
Nick: It's not a movie it's just like a character they made out of him oh
53:29
Andy: My god that's so crazy.
53:31
Nick: People are obsessed with nazis right now everyone's a nazi yeah why
53:34
Andy: Does everyone love.
53:35
Nick: Nazis it's just the only thing they know about that's bad. They can't,
53:38
Nick: no one read anything or did any work. Why is he so happy?
53:42
Andy: I know. It's like Spongebob is happy to be a Nazi.
53:45
Nick: He's luring me in with his smile.
53:47
Andy: Chill, chill, chill, chill.
53:48
Nick: Chill, chill, chill.
53:50
Andy: Your best friend's Jewish.
53:52
Nick: Yeah, yeah. Now you're my second best friend. Oh, I forgot the present. Damn it.
53:55
Andy: You got a present?
53:56
Nick: Kit got you a present for being my second best friend. Shut the fuck.
53:58
Nick: Well, I'll just tell you what it is. What is it? A dream catcher.
54:02
Nick: We can hang it right here. Fuck you, Kit. We can hang it right here.
54:05
Nick: Fuck you, Kit. I'll bring it next time We'll
54:06
Andy: Hang it I come and watch you I know exactly when you know When it's my fucking
54:10
Andy: name My The Name on the That you have to pick For what?
54:16
Andy: For trivia I know exactly you know You don't give it to me No he.
54:19
Nick: Doesn't know I don't tell him anything It's very very good
54:21
Andy: I liked our name last year Last week Julian's Black Friends Yeah but.
54:25
Nick: The winner was good too Government slut down
54:29
Nick: Government slutdown's good.
54:31
Andy: Government slutdown's pretty good. That's good. Yeah.
54:33
Nick: You've won best team name.
54:35
Andy: No. I don't get any respect here.
54:38
Nick: Oh my God. Shut the fuck up.
54:39
Andy: Everything is just, everyone just.
54:41
Nick: Everybody's out to get Andy.
54:42
Andy: Everyone's out to get him.
54:43
Nick: Million dollar house with this podcast named after him. And it's selling out
54:47
Nick: shit everywhere and fucking getting laid all the time.
54:50
Nick: Yeah, man, it sucks. Everybody's out to get you, man. Shut the fuck up. Nope.
54:54
John: I won't.
54:55
Nick: I won't shut the fuck up, Andy. Because I'm Nazi Spongebob.
55:01
Andy: You came on this earth just to fuck with me.
55:05
Nick: It's good for you at least I do it in a loving I know I'm
55:07
Andy: Acting like a whiny bitch but.
55:08
Nick: I'm not no you're not being a whiny bitch you weren't whining you were just
55:12
Nick: laying it out there just laying it out there it's okay
55:14
Andy: That's why I'm.
55:15
Nick: Here it's your podcast that's
55:16
Andy: Why I'm here.
55:17
Nick: On you can talk about whatever you want on your podcast it's called Andy Fresco's
55:19
Nick: Podcast okay a glimpse into the mind of Andy Fresco that's what
55:23
Andy: Happened to Alex Jones and he got.
55:25
Nick: Canceled you are not exactly doing what Alex Jones is doing he is Nazi Spongebob actually He is Nazi.
55:30
Andy: Dude, did you see that picture of, have you seen him?
55:33
Andy: He changed his mustache now, Adolf Hitler. Do Alex Jones' new mustache.
55:40
Nick: It looks really good. I mean, it's terrible. Shut the fuck. Remember Michael
55:44
Nick: Jordan did that for a Hanes commercial?
55:46
Andy: Alex Jones' new mustache. Isn't that insane? I know he's doing this for a promo.
55:53
Nick: Well, obviously.
55:54
Andy: To get clicks.
55:54
Nick: He kind of looks like him.
55:55
Andy: He has the Hitler mustache.
55:57
Nick: He looks like him, too, like in the eyes a little bit. yeah he got sued for
56:01
Nick: a billion dollars and lost and
56:03
Andy: Then he's still on how is he who paid for that he had that much money.
56:06
Nick: I don't think i think he's just funding it himself i'm done
56:09
Andy: With this guy delete this.
56:11
Nick: God damn this
56:11
Andy: Guy's a piece.
56:12
Nick: Of shit looks like my great uncle or something jones nazi spongebob like
56:19
Andy: There's got to be the there's got to be something that balances all this shit out.
56:25
Nick: There is but it's not interesting so people don't click on that what being good
56:29
Nick: person isn't that interesting online so people i don't know you gotta be oh
56:33
Nick: the opposite of that actually it's golden retrievers
56:35
Andy: Balancing all this this like.
56:37
Nick: There's more good people than bad people the problem is bad evil
56:41
Andy: Is not entertaining so people want.
56:44
Nick: Any evil is more powerful i think actually why
56:47
Andy: Are people more interested in evil than good.
56:49
Nick: Because it's more shocking
56:53
Andy: Okay no keep going.
56:54
Nick: With this i just think it's more shot so i my whole thing is like it's evil
56:57
Nick: is more powerful but the i do think there's way
57:00
Nick: more good people than bad people that's why it only takes like one evil guy
57:03
Nick: nazi spongebob for example to get all these people riled up uh and like do something
57:09
Nick: like that or like you can give me another like who's another bad person in history
57:12
Nick: mussolini like everyone didn't agree with him he just had power and was evil
57:16
Nick: so it only takes like But like, I don't know.
57:18
Andy: Everyone thought Bob Ross was boring.
57:20
Nick: Exactly. Bob Ross was a good guy. Yeah, exactly. It's boring to be a good guy.
57:26
Nick: All the good people you don't know are just going to work and fucking raising
57:29
Nick: their kids and donating to charity and cranking a hug a couple times a week
57:33
Nick: or whatever. You know what I mean?
57:35
Nick: It's these Nazi Spongebob's that are ruining it for everybody.
57:38
Andy: I want to tell this story on the podcast because it kind of makes sense.
57:42
Andy: When I picked up Bayless' kids and that kid was trying to make fun of me,
57:47
Andy: like, you look like Bob Ross. And I just immediately said, Bob Ross got.
57:50
Nick: Pussy to this fucking third grader. Nine-year-old.
57:53
Andy: I'm like, what am I doing? Yeah. He was horrified. That guy was like, he ran away.
57:59
Nick: You do have a weird dichotomy where you're amazing with kids,
58:02
Nick: but also I wouldn't want you around my kids.
58:04
Andy: Bob Ross got pussy, kid, okay?
58:06
Nick: You have such a weird dichotomy with children.
58:09
Andy: Yeah, the kids really love me or they're fucking scared to death of me. Yeah.
58:12
Nick: But I mean, like, you're good with kids, but also sometimes you say stuff that
58:15
Nick: you shouldn't say around them, but also you're really good with them at the same time.
58:19
Andy: It's like Billy Madison.
58:21
Nick: Williams. William Madison yeah you're kind of like Nazi Spongebob you're like okay
58:27
Andy: Gotta go gotta go hey guys like I said we're gonna have bad weeks it's fine I.
58:35
Nick: Think this is a fun episode I just think you got serious for a while and that's okay
58:39
Andy: No I'm saying like we're gonna have bad weeks in life we're gonna have serious
58:42
Andy: weeks in life and that's fine you can't always be fun you can't always be sad you can't always just,
58:51
Andy: be crazy but it's fun to have a little bit of
58:54
Andy: all that this is what living is all about have a
58:57
Andy: little crazy have a little get serious every now and then joke around don't
59:01
Andy: take it so seriously fucking feel be sad yeah these are the every one out once
59:06
Andy: crank one out fucking blow the load we're gonna we're gonna call you we're gonna
59:10
Andy: call this festival next year holy loads clear the mechanism man holy loads we're just.
59:16
Nick: I'm going if it's called Holy Love. Full on Eric Metcalf Browns jersey.
59:20
Andy: You know what I'm saying? It's okay to not feel yourself, feel like yourself
59:24
Andy: every now and then because it tests you what yourself is and who you are is
59:31
Andy: all the little things that make you beautiful. Not just one thing.
59:35
Andy: The seriousness, the happiness, the sadness, all that we should celebrate.
59:40
Andy: Not just the happy moments, not just the sad moments, the weird moments.
59:44
Andy: And celebrate every inch of you.
59:46
Andy: Oh, hot. That was very hot. Every girthy inch of you.
59:50
Nick: Every girthy, veiny, cummy inch of you.
59:53
Andy: Sorry, I really... And realize that every part of you is beautiful. Yeah. Okay?
59:58
Nick: And if you're mad at the halftime show, you're a bitch. Yeah,
1:00:01
Nick: you're a bitch. Let me add that.
1:00:02
Andy: Okay, yeah. If you're mad at the halftime show because he doesn't speak English...
1:00:05
Andy: Get a life, dude. Fuck you.
1:00:06
Nick: By the way, did you see the new news today?
1:00:08
Andy: What?
1:00:08
Nick: That one organization, Turning Point, they're doing their own alternative halftime
1:00:13
Nick: show, christian halftime show
1:00:14
Andy: They're gonna have like kid rock.
1:00:15
Nick: No like christian like christian artists like kid rock's not religious enough
1:00:19
Nick: for them they need like they're having like a revival
1:00:21
Nick: it says it why oh america i don't want to get into religion but it says it's
1:00:25
Nick: over for us i'm so sick of people acting like it's like no one can be christian
1:00:28
Nick: it says in god we trust on our goddamn money we
1:00:31
Andy: Got shows we're playing in boulder on the 17th.
1:00:36
Nick: Yeah i got spongebob we're
1:00:38
Andy: We're playing St. Augustine, Florida on the 19th.
1:00:43
Andy: That'd be fun. We're doing a private party. It's kind of culty.
1:00:46
Andy: It's going to be awesome.
1:00:47
Nick: Yeah, that's a cool company.
1:00:48
Andy: They're fun. Yeah.
1:00:50
Nick: You've got to get in with them somehow.
1:00:51
Andy: Yeah, they're really cool. And then 24th, we're playing Chattanooga, Tennessee.
1:00:57
Andy: Way down yonder on the Chattanooga. Ooh, Todd just called us perfect.
1:01:00
Andy: Perf. Todd, Newport, Kentucky with Government Mule on the 25th.
1:01:05
Andy: Oh. And Charlottesville, Virginia on the 26th.
1:01:10
Andy: Shout out to everyone listening to the Warren Haynes episode.
1:01:14
Nick: Yeah, dude, it's going really well.
1:01:15
Andy: It's fucking crushing.
1:01:17
Nick: He's an interesting guy.
1:01:19
Andy: All right, here we go. Todd called.
1:01:21
Nick: Andy Frasco.
1:01:23
Andy: Well, at least let's hear what Todd has to say about it.
1:01:26
Nick: He'll be a good palate cleanser at all.
1:01:27
Andy: He'll be a good palate cleanser, yeah.
1:01:30
Andy: Oh, God damn it.
1:01:32
Nick: I'm so sick of these people putting you on block, man.
1:01:34
Andy: Call me.
1:01:35
Nick: Try again the music industry is not supposed to be a competition we're supposed
1:01:39
Nick: to be friends as long as I'm in first place
1:01:46
Andy: Dude this new iphone is fucking horrible i can't even text,
1:01:53
Andy: fuck apple dude i am one of the,
1:01:58
Andy: i pay oh here he is i pay they are way too expensive i pay for a new phone every
1:02:03
Andy: fucking year yeah and it's bullshit hi todd you're on the podcast i.
1:02:08
Todd: Am on the podcast you're on the
1:02:10
Andy: Podcast Todd Glass, everyone. And Nick's here.
1:02:12
John: Oh, I have to perform. Hey, I don't understand why, you know,
1:02:17
John: like Reese's Cups, they double-stuff them, they do well.
1:02:20
John: And then you see Oreos are doing very well double-stuffed.
1:02:23
John: Kit Kats double-stuffed them, and they're doing well. So if I was the owner
1:02:26
John: of a company, I would think, oh, people like double-stuffed shit, Americans.
1:02:30
John: So what the fuck is Pop-Tart waiting for?
1:02:33
Andy: Yeah, thanks, Todd.
1:02:35
Nick: All right, hang up on it.
1:02:36
Andy: Just hang up.
1:02:37
Todd: Oh, they go, oh, double-stuffed the inside, double-stuffed. I said,
1:02:40
Todd: double stuff the whole fucking thing and shove it in a pouch and I'll shove
1:02:43
Todd: it up my ass and we call it a day. Andy, how can I help you?
1:02:47
Andy: Todd, I want to talk about our, it's coming up.
1:02:50
Andy: We're doing the Todd Glass, Andy Frasco Thanksgiving Spectacular,
1:02:55
Andy: where we're going to be taking mushrooms at your house and eating Thanksgiving.
1:02:59
Andy: Can you tell the audience what is going to happen at this lovely event?
1:03:05
Todd: Well, thank you for asking. Is anybody else with you?
1:03:08
Andy: Nick Gerlach. He wants to come too.
1:03:09
Todd: Nick, please. Hi, Nick. Okay. I'll make it simple.
1:03:13
Todd: So I don't like a lot of, like, I like to enjoy things, not get caught up in
1:03:18
Todd: the, you know, like, oh, I got to do this, I got to do that.
1:03:20
Todd: You know, I always try to go, how can I enjoy the holiday, make it look cool,
1:03:24
Todd: but with not a ton of effort?
1:03:25
Todd: So what we do is, I said, last year, remember I said we'll have our favorite
1:03:30
Todd: Thanksgiving sandwiches.
1:03:31
Todd: So some people bring turkey, bring stuffing, we'll put it all out with like
1:03:35
Todd: five types of bread, people can come and they can make their own sandwich, right?
1:03:39
Todd: Fuck that That was even too hard So I'm telling everybody It's still a lot of
1:03:44
Todd: work I want it to look nice So this year I'm saying I don't care if you make
1:03:48
Todd: it at your house Or there's somewhere in LA Where you know that makes a great
1:03:51
Todd: Thanksgiving sandwiches
1:03:53
Todd: Everybody brings like two or three For their favorite Thanksgiving sandwiches
1:03:57
Todd: We get here, we cut them in three Put them in a basket And then I'm going to
1:04:02
Todd: make like a Thanksgiving casserole Because that's easy Boom, you put it in a crock pot
1:04:07
Todd: It's got everything in it You know, like turkey stuffing, all that stuff.
1:04:10
Todd: Everybody bring it, and then it's out. If you want one at 6 o'clock,
1:04:14
Todd: eat one. If it's 11 o'clock, you're hungry again, you go get another one.
1:04:17
Andy: What about the mushrooms, Todd? What about the mushrooms?
1:04:20
Nick: Three minutes on sandwiches.
1:04:21
Todd: I wouldn't be doing all this other shit if I wasn't fucked up on mushrooms.
1:04:23
Andy: But are we going to do all this effort, and then we're going to be tripping dick and not be hungry?
1:04:29
Todd: Well, you know, I'm sorry I told you the boring part. All Andy wants to know about is the mushrooms.
1:04:33
Nick: Three minutes on sandwiches with no jokes.
1:04:35
Todd: Probably sitting there rolling your eyes and all the other stuff.
1:04:39
Todd: So, yeah, no, no, no, no, no. Because I did, we'll do, we'll eat later. You always get hungry.
1:04:45
Andy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. That's true.
1:04:47
Todd: But later you are.
1:04:49
Andy: Todd.
1:04:49
Todd: For me, do you have a third of a Thanksgiving sandwich?
1:04:53
Todd: Not too much where you're stuffed and the mushrooms don't take effect.
1:04:57
Todd: But that's all I wanted to say.
1:04:58
Andy: Todd, when did America lose its soul?
1:05:02
Todd: They didn't. Don't get me started.
1:05:04
Andy: No, I want to get you started. What do you think? I've been ranting about this
1:05:08
Andy: most of the whole podcast.
1:05:10
Andy: I need someone who has a different perspective on it. What do you think?
1:05:13
Todd: Well, you know, Andy, I'll be honest. I give my perspective a lot because I
1:05:18
Todd: feel like I'm one of the small few that have this perspective.
1:05:22
Todd: You know, look, things are not good right now with what's happening in the world.
1:05:27
Todd: But put that aside, even. A lot of these problems that we're having stemmed
1:05:31
Todd: back even before, let's say even before Trump was in 2010.
1:05:34
Todd: Let's go back to 2010, right?
1:05:38
Todd: And I don't think it's because we decline. I hear people go,
1:05:41
Todd: what happened? We just have civility. No, we didn't.
1:05:44
Nick: I agree.
1:05:45
Todd: No, we didn't. How far back do you want to go? Was it civil that black people
1:05:49
Todd: couldn't eat with white people? Was it civil that a woman couldn't do any jobs she wanted?
1:05:53
Andy: Was it civil.
1:05:53
Todd: That gay people couldn't get back? It's not civility. For maybe certain people, it seemed that way.
1:05:59
Todd: But if you take a look at how we treated all human beings, it wasn't that simple.
1:06:05
Todd: That's why I always, I love a good conversation. So if someone tries to throw
1:06:08
Todd: it in, you know, whatever happened, that's when it ruins it for me.
1:06:12
Todd: Even if I agree with the problem, I don't connect it to it used to be better. Does that make sense?
1:06:18
Andy: How can we make it better?
1:06:20
Todd: Well, that's a little more complex. But, oh, well, one, by realizing that it
1:06:25
Todd: didn't used to be better. That's a start.
1:06:26
Todd: If you just go, oh, that made sense.
1:06:29
Todd: I think before you debate anybody
1:06:31
Todd: or discuss something, you have to say to them, do you mind being wrong?
1:06:35
Todd: Now, that sounds like a loaded question, but someone that has an opposing view.
1:06:39
Todd: And then they could say to me, Todd, do you mind being wrong?
1:06:42
Todd: Right? Right. You get me so far?
1:06:44
Andy: Totally.
1:06:45
Todd: Okay, I think I'm saying this clean, so I'm going to go a little bit more here.
1:06:48
Andy: Come on, get in there.
1:06:49
Todd: Most people don't want to be wrong, including me, but as I get older, I evolve.
1:06:53
Todd: But I know what it's like not to want to be wrong because I was like that in
1:06:57
Todd: my first few relationships. You know, you realize you're wrong inwardly,
1:07:01
Todd: but then outwardly you can still put up a big fight. You just don't want to be wrong.
1:07:04
Todd: You have to say to yourself, to yourself, laying in bed, would I mind if my
1:07:08
Todd: whole theory on this world, I had it wrong?
1:07:11
Todd: Like, you should be better. Can you get that out of somebody's mind?
1:07:15
Todd: It's like a drug. It's very hard. But here's what I want to say.
1:07:18
Todd: People go, Todd, would you mind being wrong?
1:07:21
Todd: Of course I have to ask myself that. But I will tell you this,
1:07:24
Todd: as cocky as it seems, Thank you.
1:07:26
Todd: I think that all these problems come down to what you wanted to like.
1:07:31
Todd: Well, what's the running seams of all of them instead of discussing this issue or that issue?
1:07:36
Todd: There seems to be a running pattern in the world that there's people that want
1:07:40
Todd: to do things a new way and there's people that want to keep it the same.
1:07:44
Todd: Right. It doesn't matter how far back you go.
1:07:46
Todd: Any social issues or even like I love to say, picking up your dog shit.
1:07:50
Todd: Nobody wanted to pick up their dog shit.
1:07:51
Todd: Nobody wanted non-smoking restaurants. So there seems to be a theory of,
1:07:55
Todd: not a theory, something that happens where there's a certain group of people,
1:07:59
Todd: should women be allowed to do this?
1:08:01
Todd: There's a certain group of people that want to try it the new way,
1:08:03
Todd: and there's certain people that want to keep it the way it is,
1:08:06
Todd: go back to this, go back, go back.
1:08:08
Todd: But it seems history writes that the new way is better. Now,
1:08:14
Todd: you can't decide that if we're looking at topics on hand, but if you go back
1:08:19
Todd: to even ask people now, go, hey, well, let's see, you know, if they're going to answer honestly.
1:08:23
Todd: But if you go back to any of the issues of 30 years ago, try to get out of,
1:08:27
Todd: you know, when it's not still in the chopping table, do you think,
1:08:30
Todd: I always go to the same thing.
1:08:32
Todd: Do you think that women should be able to do any job they want?
1:08:35
Todd: Most people are not going to go, no.
1:08:37
Todd: Do you think black people should be able to eat with white people?
1:08:41
Todd: Yes. Do you think that black children should go to school with white children? Yes.
1:08:44
Todd: Do you think white people should have been able to marry black people?
1:08:47
Todd: Yes. Do you think gay people, you think it's an illness, people are going to go, no.
1:08:51
Todd: So it seems to be, if you want to be a betting man, it seems to be,
1:08:56
Todd: in the midst of it, you think you're right, I think I'm right.
1:08:59
Todd: But when things come, the side that wants to do it a new way seems to...
1:09:10
Todd: you know, history writes that decision better.
1:09:13
Nick: That's true.
1:09:14
Andy: Yeah.
1:09:14
Todd: That is true. Now, that's in a moment in life where you have to want to,
1:09:17
Todd: you know, you want to get out of your own way.
1:09:19
Todd: If someone that's listening to this right now, that what I just said doesn't
1:09:23
Todd: fit into what they believe, you at least have to pause and go, he is right.
1:09:28
Andy: Yes.
1:09:29
Todd: That is right. There's, I want to do it the new way, you want to do it the old
1:09:33
Todd: way. And like I say, it doesn't have to be social.
1:09:37
Andy: What's your take on tacos?
1:09:41
Andy: i'm just kidding i'm just kidding no i i totally agree it does i think you cleaned
1:09:47
Andy: it up i think yes we're we're we're viewing the future from the lens of the
1:09:53
Andy: past and that's not how we should approach the future you're saying some people are some.
1:09:59
Todd: People seem to think that it was better back in the day yeah maybe for certain
1:10:02
Todd: groups of people it was yeah right it was a simpler time. People go,
1:10:06
Todd: oh, it was a simpler time. You had your youth.
1:10:09
Todd: But this, you know. I get it. And also, I'll tell you one other thing.
1:10:14
Todd: Can I go a little further? Yeah.
1:10:18
Todd: Look, this doesn't mean that the people that want to go backwards or go backwards. It doesn't mean that
1:10:28
Todd: they... Hold on, hold on. I got my thought here. They want to go backwards.
1:10:32
Todd: They want to go backwards.
1:10:33
Todd: But, oh, yeah, it doesn't mean that the people that want to go backwards,
1:10:36
Todd: yes, I want to acknowledge what they do to these groups of people,
1:10:41
Todd: that they're arguing for their rights and they make their lives hard,
1:10:44
Todd: whatever group you want to talk about.
1:10:46
Andy: Right, right, right.
1:10:46
Todd: But I'm almost done. Don't worry. But I will say this. They might put a stop
1:10:52
Todd: on it. They might block it. They might.
1:10:55
Todd: But they never stop anything. And I'll tell you how, why they don't.
1:10:59
Todd: They never stop anything. Again, I could go through that whole list.
1:11:01
Todd: Did they stop that? Can women, did they stop that?
1:11:04
Todd: Hey, we still have a lot of work to do in all those categories,
1:11:06
Todd: but they've never really stopped anything.
1:11:08
Todd: Do we pick up our dog shit? Do most civil-minded people don't?
1:11:11
Todd: Because back then, they didn't even modestly say, oh, why are we going to pick up our dog shit?
1:11:16
Todd: I mean, I know it's the right thing to do, but still, no. It was like,
1:11:19
Todd: you're a fucking lunatic.
1:11:20
Todd: When we had non-smoking restaurants, oh my God, the world's going to shit.
1:11:23
Todd: But they never stopped it. They never stop anything. They slow it down.
1:11:27
Todd: They make everybody's life out. They never stop anything.
1:11:29
Andy: Do a joke.
1:11:30
Todd: Think about that. Think about that. They never stop anything.
1:11:34
Todd: It's almost like you say it like a bully. What the fuck does the other side ever stop?
1:11:38
Todd: And that is because they bank that kids get dumber.
1:11:42
Todd: And that is where they lose. Even if somebody on that side would have the acknowledgement,
1:11:48
Todd: they go, maybe that's right.
1:11:50
Todd: That's why we lose every time because we go, kids get stupid and stupid.
1:11:53
Todd: No, they get smarter and smarter. And you thinking they're stupider is why you lose.
1:11:58
Todd: Because if you were aware how brilliant they were, Maybe your fight would be different.
1:12:02
Todd: I'm not saying I want them to win, but kids don't get stupider and stupider.
1:12:07
Todd: People love to say that, oh, the kids today, the kids today.
1:12:10
Todd: They've been saying that for how many goddamn years?
1:12:12
Todd: You should be embarrassed to say that even if you're right. It's such a boring
1:12:15
Todd: conversation to hear kids get stupider.
1:12:18
Todd: And there's people listening right now to your podcast, maybe even you,
1:12:23
Todd: that will not go back to their lives.
1:12:25
Todd: Look, I hope it does, and maybe I'm saying this so it does, that will change anything they think.
1:12:31
Todd: It won't shame. Most people, it's like a drug. It might be to hear it now and
1:12:35
Todd: go, yeah, I guess he has a point. I guess he has a point.
1:12:37
Todd: Most people think kids get stupider the first time the kids have a different theory than them.
1:12:43
Todd: Like Bill Maher. He goes, what happened when you used to go to colleges and
1:12:47
Todd: these kids were forward thinking?
1:12:49
Todd: And I sarcastically, with all the sarcasm in the world, want to go,
1:12:52
Todd: Bill, when did you think that they weren't?
1:12:54
Todd: Because he's acknowledging, oh, they used to be forward thinking. I would do these shows.
1:12:58
Todd: So let me ask you a question. Did you start thinking they weren't forward thinking
1:13:01
Todd: when they disagreed with something you said?
1:13:04
Todd: Instead of going, holy shit, these kids are disagreeing with something I say,
1:13:07
Todd: they have an amazing track record of being on the right side of history.
1:13:11
Todd: Maybe should I at least give them a fucking listen.
1:13:14
Todd: And being quiet isn't listening. Just because you're shutting up while the other
1:13:18
Todd: person talks doesn't mean you're digesting.
1:13:20
Andy: Like me right now. Yeah, exactly.
1:13:23
Todd: Now you asked me and I said it.
1:13:25
Andy: No, no, no. You're right. You're totally right. I think you're completely right.
1:13:30
Andy: The idea that the youth aren't smarter than the people who have already lived here is wrong.
1:13:37
Andy: And I think there's better ideas from the youth that we could actually,
1:13:42
Andy: if we'd actually listen to, maybe it can help because it's the future.
1:13:47
Andy: So it's an idea of being stubborn. We've got to stop being stubborn. We're stubborn.
1:13:52
Todd: I always said it's your ego. I always said if cars, if automotive,
1:13:57
Todd: like if a car had an ego, we wouldn't have fuel injections still.
1:14:03
Todd: Because a car had an ego, you'd go to give it fuel injection.
1:14:05
Todd: Nah, this carburetor's all right.
1:14:08
Todd: If these teens had egos. Pretty good. And it just makes sense.
1:14:12
Todd: I'm not saying all young people, by the way. Just because you see a young person that's stupid.
1:14:16
Andy: What about when AI gets an ego?
1:14:19
Todd: Well, and you know what, even AI. There's also running patterns that you can look.
1:14:25
Todd: You can, if we talk about what's good for, is AI good or is AI bad?
1:14:30
Todd: On a good day, maybe you could make a better point than me and maybe you could win.
1:14:34
Todd: I don't really know the answer. But I do know this.
1:14:38
Todd: And if you pay attention to patterns, that's the way we cure diseases.
1:14:43
Todd: We pay attention to patterns.
1:14:44
Todd: There seems to be a history, again, 10 of these things that they thought were
1:14:49
Todd: going to ruin dot, dot, dot.
1:14:52
Todd: I think someone said, is it the Stenograph or the first record? What was that called?
1:14:57
Nick: Phonograph.
1:14:57
Andy: Phonograph.
1:14:58
Todd: Phonograph. That was going to ruin the music business. I think like Andy Williams
1:15:01
Todd: or an older performer said, it's going to ruin the music business.
1:15:04
Todd: There seems to be a running history of people that think TV is going to ruin
1:15:08
Todd: the business. This is going to ruin business. And years later, it didn't.
1:15:12
Todd: It didn't. So maybe this one will be different, but I can tell you when you
1:15:17
Todd: go to make that decision, is AI going to be bad? Is it going to be the demise of the world?
1:15:22
Todd: If you're a betting man and you just want to win money, like if someone goes
1:15:25
Todd: in 30 years, what's going to happen?
1:15:27
Todd: You know, you're probably going to be wrong. Even though if we argue about it
1:15:31
Todd: right now, someone you could win on a Thursday, maybe I'd win on a Friday,
1:15:34
Todd: if we just took it what we're dissecting on the plate right now.
1:15:38
Todd: But if you go back and look at the history of it, with not minding,
1:15:41
Todd: as you gather these facts, not minding if these facts don't,
1:15:45
Todd: you know, come against what you think.
1:15:47
Todd: Look at all the things we thought were going to ruin kids or ruin this or ruin
1:15:53
Todd: that. We usually have bigger fish to fry.
1:15:55
Todd: And we usually don't look at the thing that really is the demise.
1:15:59
Todd: You know, people thought Elvis moving his crotch around was going to be the
1:16:02
Todd: end of the world. People really believe that. Like, now we're fucked.
1:16:05
Todd: It's hard to believe that in anything. Oh, Todd's exaggerating.
1:16:07
Todd: No, people were like, what the fuck is going on?
1:16:10
Todd: Now go back at that year Go back at that year And look what was going on in
1:16:15
Todd: the landscape of this world How we were treating marginalized groups And you go Elvis' crotch Really
1:16:21
Todd: So I always say don't guess the problem What?
1:16:26
Nick: You were telling me I was laughing at your joke
1:16:29
Todd: Am I on the podcast? You're on the podcast I'm exhausted I had a clean I think
1:16:37
Todd: I got everything out You did I
1:16:39
Nick: Think you got it
1:16:39
Todd: All I'll say one more thing. One more thing.
1:16:41
Andy: Yeah, okay. I swear.
1:16:42
Todd: When I say the kids today are smarter, I'm not talking about every single child
1:16:48
Todd: or everything. I should say young adult.
1:16:50
Todd: I'm talking about the involved kids, the kids that are involved,
1:16:54
Todd: the kids that are fighting for this or fighting for that.
1:16:57
Todd: Sometimes they go about it wrong once in a while, but the issue,
1:17:01
Todd: the issue that they're arguing, they're always right.
1:17:04
Todd: They have an amazing track record of being right, but it doesn't look like it.
1:17:08
Todd: You know, if you run a company and you're a CEO and you have an amazing track
1:17:12
Todd: record, people listen to what you fucking say.
1:17:15
Andy: Yeah.
1:17:16
Todd: But because we're afraid of death, I think that's what it might be.
1:17:19
Todd: I'm just taking a stab at it.
1:17:20
Todd: We're afraid of death. And instead of talking about that in a real way to go,
1:17:24
Todd: I don't want to die. I like it here. I don't really want to die.
1:17:27
Todd: So we come up with a Band-Aid for it. Oh, at least we were born at a better time.
1:17:32
Todd: At least the kids today are dumber. At least music today.
1:17:36
Todd: At least we were born when music was good. but at least we were born when comedy
1:17:38
Todd: was good. That's a band-aid.
1:17:42
Todd: You're right. Instead of saying, it's scary to die, and there's still good music.
1:17:48
Andy: Speaking of death, what do you think of aliens? Do you think they're going to come after us?
1:17:52
Todd: I have no idea.
1:17:55
Todd: At least, you know, if I don't have an idea, I say it.
1:17:59
Andy: Hey, so, guys.
1:18:00
Todd: You know, I got one more thing. Okay. People, as much as I'm opinionated,
1:18:04
Todd: I don't mind not weighing in on things.
1:18:07
Todd: People don't really want the right answer. I think they want the answer that
1:18:10
Todd: they, in their head, is right.
1:18:12
Andy: This brings us back to the first part of the podcast. That's why we're going
1:18:14
Andy: to keep this episode. Right.
1:18:16
Todd: Well, when it comes to social, when it comes to what people,
1:18:19
Todd: you know, do you want what's right or do you want what you had in your head
1:18:25
Todd: and you want that to be right? Do you mind being wrong?
1:18:27
Andy: It goes, right.
1:18:28
Todd: I'll give you an example. When we're talking about issues of today,
1:18:31
Todd: what should we expose children to? What should we not expose children to?
1:18:35
Todd: What's wrong with going, and I'm not even joking. There's a website,
1:18:38
Todd: you can get this answer. You're going, what does Sesame Street think?
1:18:41
Todd: Well, why Sesame Street?
1:18:43
Todd: Well, wouldn't you agree that they have been on the right side of history,
1:18:47
Todd: integrating different races and talking about things in an honest way.
1:18:51
Todd: So what's wrong with going, I don't know what my stance on this is.
1:18:55
Todd: I want to go to someone that has a rich history of being ahead of their time and doing things right.
1:19:01
Todd: I'm going to defer to Sesame Street. But again, that's not what people are looking
1:19:05
Todd: for. You're looking for people that agree with you.
1:19:08
Todd: I think the biggest drug that is the demise of society isn't prescription drugs.
1:19:16
Todd: It's complacency. it's trying to get people
1:19:19
Todd: to believe or get them to understand your
1:19:22
Todd: view that you have this view that you go through life with
1:19:25
Todd: it's wrong and it's like a drug it's very hard
1:19:28
Todd: to yank them out of it because they believed it so
1:19:31
Todd: long they don't want to be wrong it's like being on
1:19:34
Todd: drugs just because you say hey I'm a drug addict or
1:19:36
Todd: I'm an alcoholic that doesn't mean that's the start then there's a lot of work
1:19:41
Todd: even if you were to go God what Todd said sort of made sense I think I might
1:19:45
Todd: be that person he's talking about that doesn't mean there's not a lot of work
1:19:49
Todd: ahead of you to change this adage you've been living with for such a long time.
1:19:56
Andy: If you want to hear these thoughts, if you think this podcast is interesting,
1:20:00
Andy: think about when Todd's on mushrooms, the thoughts he has going through his head.
1:20:04
Andy: Come on over to the Todd Glass Thanksgiving special. What's up, buddy?
1:20:08
Todd: Can I tell you one more thing? My show that I'm doing in New York, now you might go, what?
1:20:13
Todd: I'm not really talking about any social issues. I did on my last Netflix special.
1:20:18
Todd: This one, by my own choice.
1:20:20
Todd: Maybe my next one, I'll talk about social issues. I'm not talking about any
1:20:23
Todd: social issues. I just wanted the show that I'm doing in New York and the show
1:20:26
Todd: that I'm touring with right now.
1:20:28
Todd: I just want, I mean, people can tell that I hopefully am progressive because
1:20:33
Todd: of some of the, you know, you say things indirectly, even if you're not marching and waving a flag.
1:20:38
Todd: But yeah, I just want this to be for people to go out, have a good time,
1:20:42
Todd: and sort of not deal with that. The only chunk I have in my acting.
1:20:44
Andy: Second City, first week in November, come out to see Todd.
1:20:48
Todd: Second City, the 7th to the 17th, 15 shows.
1:20:53
Andy: And when one of your close friends is going to come to the first weekend. I forgot.
1:20:57
Todd: Andy Frasco, baby.
1:20:59
Nick: Am I still here?
1:21:00
Todd: So glad you're going. And I love you to death. And I love Nick to death.
1:21:05
Todd: And I'm so excited that you're going to be there. Really am.
1:21:07
Todd: I was talking to Vinny the other day. And I'm like, I just love it.
1:21:10
Todd: You know, I never get over our friendship. And then I just adore you.
1:21:13
Andy: I love you, buddy.
1:21:14
Nick: I miss you, Todd.
1:21:16
Andy: I got to give Nick some attention. But I love you so much. Let me call you back in a little bit.
1:21:20
Nick: I'm going to text you.
1:21:21
Todd: Okay, bye. Got to run.
1:21:22
Andy: Sorry. Got to run. Got to run.
1:21:24
Nick: So fucking funny.
1:21:26
Andy: Todd Glass is the greatest, but I think he nailed it on the head.
1:21:29
Nick: Yeah, I think in there. I actually agree with everything he said.
1:21:33
Andy: I did. I dozed off a little bit. I was trying to get, when he gets into his,
1:21:37
Andy: he's not breathing. He's just talking.
1:21:39
Nick: It's impressive, actually.
1:21:41
Andy: It's pretty impressive. He's really brilliant. He's a brilliant man.
1:21:43
Nick: He's a brilliant man that I agree with almost all the time.
1:21:46
Andy: You will check out the Todd Glass Thanksgiving special. That looks awesome.
1:21:50
Andy: The mushroom is, mushrooms on ice, we call it.
1:21:54
Andy: You're going to come to that this week here? What is it? What do you do for
1:21:56
Andy: Thanksgiving? You go home for Thanksgiving.
1:21:57
Nick: No, I already told you. My family doesn't do Thanksgiving.
1:21:59
Andy: Come have Thanksgiving with us.
1:22:00
Nick: Just got to make sure Julie's in Denver and then I can do it.
1:22:03
Andy: Okay.
1:22:03
Nick: Bring her. I can't leave Denzel at home alone.
1:22:05
Andy: You can't leave Julie.
1:22:07
Nick: Yeah, I can. She doesn't care.
1:22:10
Andy: All right, guys. I think we nailed it.
1:22:16
Andy: I think we nailed it on the head today, right? It was a great podcast.
1:22:20
Andy: We're getting worried. It was getting a little sad. But now this is an informational podcast. Yeah.
1:22:26
Andy: We learned a lot today. We learned about the music industry.
1:22:29
Andy: We learned about aliens.
1:22:30
Nick: Tech guy stuff.
1:22:31
Andy: Tech guy, AI stuff. And then Todd Glass to put a bow on it that- A quick 20
1:22:36
Andy: minutes. The future isn't as scary as we think it is, because we have to believe
1:22:40
Andy: in the youth that they're going to take care of it.
1:22:42
Nick: So I believe- The past is much scarier in the future.
1:22:45
Andy: Yes. All right, guys. Enjoy your Tuesday after that manic-ass episode.
1:22:50
Nick: I hope you got a good lunch.
1:22:51
Andy: If you had a good lunch, that was really chewable That was like chewing grass today Goodbye Hey.
1:22:57
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