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Set 2: The NFL Coach Royal Rumble (w/ AJ Hawk and Robert Saleh) · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: Very exciting.
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  Speaker 2: AJ Hawk is with US former NFL player currently with
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  Speaker 2: the Pat McAfee show. What do you know him better
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  Speaker 2: for by the way mcaffee show or former NFL player?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, definitely the show right passed the man. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's been it's been awesome for sure. Had you hit
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  Speaker 3: him today, man, pretty good? I mean today it didn't
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  Speaker 3: really count. It's the pro am, so you're not going
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  Speaker 3: to hit you know, swing pretty uh, pretty smooth. But no,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's awesome on you. I'm not a pro golfer,
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  Speaker 3: so I don't get too frustrated if I don't hit
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  Speaker 3: it well.
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  Speaker 4: But I had a great group. It was.
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  Speaker 5: It was awesome, AJ when you guys started the Pat
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  Speaker 5: McAfee show. I know you guys did shows at the
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  Speaker 5: start of COVID separate from the McAfee show, But did
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  Speaker 5: you ever think it could get to where it is now?
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean obviously not, and and Pat had it
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  Speaker 3: going a while before I joined him, but I started
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  Speaker 3: joining uh pretty consistently once COVID hit. But no, I
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  Speaker 3: mean I've had no clue when we're starting at what
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  Speaker 3: it would be now and just what the Yeah, it's crazy,
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  Speaker 3: so many awesome things that we get to do and
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  Speaker 3: go watch these college college football playoff on the sidelines
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  Speaker 3: and do these watch alongs.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy right, Yeah, it's so awesome.
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  Speaker 3: To watch the game from the end zone like it's
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  Speaker 3: It makes me even a bigger fan of college football
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  Speaker 3: getting to do that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you guys.
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  Speaker 2: It's so proud of Pat because you know, Pat really
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  Speaker 2: gambled on himself and there's a lot of you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's a great lesson to be learned there.
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  Speaker 1: Because he retired early.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people criticized him, he left money on
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  Speaker 2: the table, but look.
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  Speaker 1: What it's turned into. Man, he's the biggest thing going
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  Speaker 1: right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: He could do he do everything for him. Yes, it's
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  Speaker 1: the best.
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  Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about Brady Quinn because
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  Speaker 2: he's you know, he does the morning show on Hour
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  Speaker 2: Network and he's been on with us a bunch of times,
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  Speaker 2: and he was telling us one time that you are
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  Speaker 2: there was no better card giver than AJ Hawk, And
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  Speaker 2: I was floored by that.
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  Speaker 1: I was shocked by that. I didn't realize that.
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  Speaker 2: I guess maybe I'm applying my own sensibilities that I
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  Speaker 2: apologize in advance, but I didn't have you as a
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  Speaker 2: guy who's down giving a lot of thought to what
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  Speaker 2: it is he's going to write in a card.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I guess it depends who the card is
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  Speaker 1: going to.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I've always been yeah, I don't know what Brady I
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  Speaker 3: know has said that a few times. Yeah, and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what he's talking about. Sometimes I'll write,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you get a birthday card from my mother
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  Speaker 3: in law or whoever, my mom or my dad or
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  Speaker 3: my brothers. Yes, like you'll, I'll take a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of time. I'm a creative human. I'm terrible with numbers,
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  Speaker 3: can't do math, but I can. I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 3: I'm creative and have an imagination. And I always try
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  Speaker 3: to tell my kids, you need to have an imagination,
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  Speaker 3: and I think I do so sometimes I try to
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  Speaker 3: express that when I'm when I'm writing cards to people
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  Speaker 3: with my family.
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  Speaker 5: If we had to flip the question now on Brady,
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  Speaker 5: what's something that people don't know about Brady?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, this is your chance, Ajay, let's go.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, great question.
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  Speaker 3: Every time I see him, in which I see him
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  Speaker 3: all the time, and he lives very like every time, like,
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  Speaker 3: you're such a giant human, just a big handsome dude.
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  Speaker 4: And he's but he's.
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  Speaker 3: All he's like a he's just he's not a real
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  Speaker 3: character because he's that he's such a big, handsome, awesome Duobi.
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  Speaker 3: He's actually like the best dude and super nice and
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  Speaker 3: but everybody like the biggest family dude of all times. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: it's awesome having him. He was in Florida, now he's
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  Speaker 3: back in Ohio. It's great to have a brother in
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  Speaker 3: law that you get along with, right.
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  Speaker 4: The other way, right, My.
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  Speaker 3: Other brother in law, Jack Johnson, is the man as well,
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  Speaker 3: played hockey in the NHL over twenty years and the
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  Speaker 3: nicest dude too. See, I'm very lucky. Yes, what my
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  Speaker 3: brothers and my caddie out here, he has been for
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  Speaker 3: like sex really Yeah, that's nice.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: What do you remember most about your last game at
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  Speaker 5: Ohio State against Brady Quinn In the lead up to
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  Speaker 5: that game.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, Yeah, we were playing in the Fiesta Ball
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  Speaker 3: against Notre Dame. Yeah, my senior year, there was a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of like weird media stuff early on. They found
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  Speaker 3: out that I was going out with his sister and
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  Speaker 3: we weren't engaged actually at the time, but like, oh
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  Speaker 3: it's I don't know how it got public. But then
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  Speaker 3: there's like a little that stupid old school yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: guess it's probably before the internet, right, stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: And then we played and luckily we won, and I
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  Speaker 3: got sacked Brady a few times in that kid, you
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  Speaker 3: a great team though they were awesome? Did you mind
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  Speaker 3: above it all the time? You don't have to right now,
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  Speaker 3: look at that dude, like he was a giant. He
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  Speaker 3: would have ran me over. I had to multiple times,
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  Speaker 3: like he would have absolutely would have killed and I
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  Speaker 3: had to protect myself.
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  Speaker 2: If I told you even back then that one day
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six that Indiana would dominate college football, you
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  Speaker 2: would have told me.
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  Speaker 3: What obviously, I would have left had a hard time
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  Speaker 3: believing you. But I mean, anything can happen now if
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  Speaker 3: you like. And I was at I was down there
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  Speaker 3: watching Indiana in person Indian zone, like I said in
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  Speaker 3: these watchlongs we do, and I was blown away with
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  Speaker 3: how they played, like they were so disciplined. Like I'm
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  Speaker 3: a I'm like a football nerd when I see defense
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  Speaker 3: play well with the proper the proper leverage all the time.
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  Speaker 3: And this he's spilling it to his outside backer and
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  Speaker 3: you're holding your gap. All this stuff in Indiana like
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  Speaker 3: they didn't have. They played so hard and they were
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  Speaker 3: so disciplined. It was like a thing of beauty watching
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  Speaker 3: them play.
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  Speaker 2: The American Century Championship is such a great event. You're
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  Speaker 2: out here every single year, Like, what do you love
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  Speaker 2: so much about this event?
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  Speaker 4: Man?
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  Speaker 1: I mean just look around like it's belief.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing nowhere in the world that I've been that
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  Speaker 3: looks like this.
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  Speaker 4: The lake's legit.
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  Speaker 1: It's great getting in the lake every morning to jump in.
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  Speaker 4: It's freezing.
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  Speaker 1: You go in every morning.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like yeah, wow, you know everyone's in the cold, plunging.
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  Speaker 4: You got to do your whole morning routine.
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  Speaker 1: Garlage, Are you tell me late tomorrow morning you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be there? Yeah? We were there at like five fifteen
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  Speaker 1: that I go in with you tomorrow. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's a little bit of a mental test when you
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  Speaker 3: walk down it's forty eight degrees outside with forty nine Well.
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  Speaker 2: What's the what's the key? Do you like tiptoe win
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  Speaker 2: or you just jump right in? You gotta jump right in, right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know the end there's no tiptoe.
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  Speaker 2: Why does im pact come out here anymore? Like he
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  Speaker 2: was out of here a few years ago. I haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen him saying I hope he comes back. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know him, and he's got he is too busy kid.
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  Speaker 2: He's got two young kids and just had another. So
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  Speaker 2: it's uh, obviously hopefully comes back next year. It was awesome.
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  Speaker 2: I got to play with him three days two years
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  Speaker 2: in a row.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What's the thing you missed the most about football? Is
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  Speaker 1: there anything? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Man, football is awesome. I miss all everything about football.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm realistic and it's not like a you know,
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  Speaker 3: I knew when I stopped playing, like yeah, I can't
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  Speaker 3: play anymore. But man, I I get so excited watching it,
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  Speaker 3: like I when I watched, like I say, in person,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, I watch my kids play as well,
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  Speaker 3: and it's just it's fun, right, It's physical, it's great.
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  Speaker 5: Ay, j The Big ten has won the last three
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  Speaker 5: national championships. As a Big ten guy yourself? Is it
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  Speaker 5: Big ten versus the world right now? Because there's always
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  Speaker 5: the talk with the SEC, but it feels like the
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  Speaker 5: Big ten is kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of Big ten is awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Man. The SEC is awesome.
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  Speaker 3: I have a hard time like creating an argument with that.
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  Speaker 3: I think I think they're They're the tip of the spear,
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  Speaker 3: both of them, and I think it's it's awesome and
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  Speaker 3: it's fun to watch. But I don't have a I
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  Speaker 3: can't sit here and I'm my high horse talking about Nick.
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  Speaker 3: I think the Big Ten is amazing. I think the SEC.
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  Speaker 3: I have so many buddies that played in the SEC,
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  Speaker 3: and they are some of the biggest and best athletes
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  Speaker 3: and best players of all time.
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  Speaker 2: We were watching you on the well, I wasn't watching you,
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  Speaker 2: my producer was, and I'm feeling like I should put
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  Speaker 2: a flyer on you, like I feel like this could
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  Speaker 2: be a top ten finish for you.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think? Huh Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean I think my my previous best finish is like
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  Speaker 3: fifty second.
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  Speaker 4: I got my kids up.
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  Speaker 1: I tell my kids every day I'm gonna win it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna win the American Central Championship, and they're okay, Dad,
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  Speaker 3: fifty eighth place, so.
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  Speaker 4: They're gonna I can't. I'm a town him. My games
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  Speaker 4: really rounded.
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  Speaker 2: In the form, So a top fifty sounds better, not
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  Speaker 2: not top twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, sure, I'm coming first place gets a lab coat. Now,
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  Speaker 3: so I'm going for first.
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  Speaker 1: How many rounds of golfa you played before you got here?
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  Speaker 1: I got that many. I'm guessing four or five.
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  Speaker 2: I'd say, okay, I played a couple with Brady as
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  Speaker 2: a as a as an athlete, as a world class athlete.
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  Speaker 1: Does it bother you when guys like.
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  Speaker 2: Taylor twelve men are like, hey, I played two rounds
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  Speaker 2: this year, and then they go out like four at
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  Speaker 2: the bar.
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  Speaker 3: You know he's they were, hey, guess what he was
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  Speaker 3: in lake yesterday this morning?
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  Speaker 4: But I saw him yesterday. He was he was.
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  Speaker 3: Getting in there and he he knows all twelve. It was, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he's a golfer, ya, I know we had him on
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  Speaker 3: the other day. He was an athlete, So yes, I
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  Speaker 3: just those guys had that silky smooth swing and ball
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  Speaker 3: in the fairway that they know when they t off
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  Speaker 3: that the ball is going to be in play.
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  Speaker 1: That would be a great feeling I have. I've been
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  Speaker 1: chasing that one. Were you into the US soccer at all? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was sweet. I'm not a huge soccer guy, but
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  Speaker 1: I respect what they do.
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  Speaker 7: Man.
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  Speaker 3: I respect watching those guys play. I didn't think I would.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't think i'd watched a much right, and I did.
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  Speaker 1: They forced us to watch. Yeah, it was awesome, it
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  Speaker 1: was cool. I don't I claim to understand what it's about.
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  Speaker 4: And what they shouldn't doing it. It should be playing.
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  Speaker 3: But I respect how they play, and you know, I
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  Speaker 3: love that the coach gets into play hard and be tough.
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  Speaker 1: It's awesome.
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  Speaker 5: You mentioned how many cool things you've gotten to do
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  Speaker 5: as a member with the McAfee show. Is there anything
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  Speaker 5: still on your sports bucket list where you're like, man,
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  Speaker 5: it would be really cool if we could.
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  Speaker 1: Check this out. That's a good question.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm honestly, I don't know if I can give
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  Speaker 3: you an answer.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome? Are we I've done something winning this thing?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, oh yeah, yeah, that's the top of the list.
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  Speaker 1: It's up there, winning out here.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, there's so many awesome things like I've been I've
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  Speaker 3: been super lucky to get to experience a lot of
• 8:41
  Speaker 3: awesome things even after playing football now like to be
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  Speaker 3: in awesome events.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, why not win it out here?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't, man, these guys are seriously watch
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  Speaker 3: They're like they're putting their alignment sticks out here.
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  Speaker 4: Friend of mine.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's a ridiculous. He's playing nine tournaments already. I
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  Speaker 2: put money on Marty, Well, I have put I put
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  Speaker 2: all my money on Marty.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, play, but there's a lot, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: guys that can win it though. Yeah, does golf drop
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  Speaker 1: be crazy? Though? Like everything?
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  Speaker 4: Like?
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  Speaker 2: No, But athletics have come fairly easy to you. I
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  Speaker 2: imagine your entire life and this game's hard, man, it is.
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  Speaker 3: But being an athlete helps with any kind of game
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  Speaker 3: or sport you can play. But you don't have to
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: be an athlete to be a great golfer, right, So
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  Speaker 3: I don't That's not a slight to anyone. I just
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  Speaker 3: think you so many different Like just because someone's an
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  Speaker 3: awesome athlete doesn't mean that it doesn't always translate to golf.
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  Speaker 1: It usually doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's isn't it crazy sometimes seeing how ugly some
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  Speaker 3: swings are? If some of the people the greatest athletes, yes,
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  Speaker 3: we know, yes, yeah, And I'm not food. Mine's not
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  Speaker 3: pretty at all.
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  Speaker 2: Look at Trey Wingo out there. Does he look like
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  Speaker 2: an athlete to you? I mean that guy could smoke
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  Speaker 2: a golf ball though I'm doing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you.
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  Speaker 2: Donie but to two to eighty down the fairway every
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  Speaker 2: single drun.
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  Speaker 4: I believe it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh if so, listen, I have a ridiculous take it.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to get your thoughts right.
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: I think Caleb Williams is going to be the greatest
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  Speaker 2: quarterback we've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: Am I nuts?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, time will tell right now, but as well, listen,
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: this is sports radio.
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  Speaker 1: We have to give an institute. I think he's awesome.
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  Speaker 3: He's been you know, I played for the Packers for
• 10:07
  Speaker 3: nine years, so I think it's awesome that the Bears
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: are good and that they're they're it's a huge rivalry,
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: and I think Caleb's amazing their whole team. I like
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: how they're coach man, I like how they play. But
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  Speaker 3: also I love the Packers and I feel good about
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  Speaker 3: them where they're going.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, adye a my sports bucket list, I still have
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  Speaker 5: to check off lambeau Field. But I hate cold football,
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  Speaker 5: So it feels like that's kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of did you play football?
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  Speaker 1: Like playing was a walk out of Carolina?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I walk on in North Carolina.
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  Speaker 5: But the second the season hit, like November is when
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  Speaker 5: I started acting in I gotta start shutting it down
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  Speaker 5: on the scout team.
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  Speaker 4: So it wasn't noticeable.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it was like the calendar hits November. It's
• 10:46
  Speaker 5: like a towner is going to be checked out. Somebody
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  Speaker 5: else is going to get the scout teach. How long
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  Speaker 5: did you last? I played three years as good for you.
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  Speaker 5: Then he didn't completely package. Yeah, so what's not don't
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  Speaker 5: like cold weather?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, little fingers get hurt when they get in the
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  Speaker 1: little well I was.
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  Speaker 5: I kind of was with the mindset. I'm on the
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  Speaker 5: scout team. I'm never going to get off the scout team.
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  Speaker 5: And when you get hit in the cold, it stings
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  Speaker 5: a little more.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why you got to be the hammer, not
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  Speaker 3: the nail man.
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  Speaker 1: I was exclusive, but sometimes it hurts being both.
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  Speaker 3: But yes, I would rather win on that side, so
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  Speaker 3: you wouldn't sell you lose some though.
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  Speaker 5: I was on the scout kickoff team where the guy
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  Speaker 5: would come and blindside you every time.
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  Speaker 1: Did you guys go full go?
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  Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, so I was the nail.
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  Speaker 5: So did you have to act like you didn't know?
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  Speaker 5: They wouldn't tell us what look it was going to be,
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  Speaker 5: and then I would get blindsided and hey, just look
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  Speaker 5: this way, bud, don't don't peak because yes, bron coming
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  Speaker 5: to ear hole.
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  Speaker 1: The other time was huh.
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  Speaker 5: It was the Georgia Tech when Georgia Tech would run
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  Speaker 5: the option and I was the guy who would have
• 11:48
  Speaker 5: to dive at people's knees and they.
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  Speaker 1: Would just kind of punch you away.
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  Speaker 5: So I was always the nail when it came to
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  Speaker 5: my walk on career at North Carolina. But I want
• 11:56
  Speaker 5: to go to cold football. Is there anything you could
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  Speaker 5: kind of give tips on?
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  Speaker 1: We wrapped that back in the cold football. We did that. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: he brought a full circle.
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  Speaker 4: So any tips for cold football?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just take care honestly, your little fingers in your
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: your feet, hands and feet, so where like uh, you'd
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: wear like surgical gloves underneath football gloves. That helps a
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: little bit. People put vasilin on their arms. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you try it. It doesn't really do a whole lot.
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  Speaker 3: But if your fingers feel okay and you and your
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: toes are all right, it's not bad.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: You can do it.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: We'll get you out of here on this note. And
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: we appreciate you doing this for us. I was, I
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: was in a shuttle last night.
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: And Adam thelan is telling a story that a that
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: someone else in that shuttle dislocated his shoulder during an
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: NFL game and it was Charles Woodson, and Woodson was
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: hearing this for the first time, Like he knew he
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: dislocated someone's shoulder, he didn't know what was feelings.
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: And so I'm wondering, are there guys that.
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: You have hurt where you just haven't even like friends
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: of yours, where you just didn't realize it was that
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: person that later on in life they were like, Hey,
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: you're the guy who broke my knee. Yes, I don't No,
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I've been confronted that is that
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: strange that Woodson would know that though.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: No, it's not. It's not once that I was.
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: I played one year with the Bengals. Brian Hartline was
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: on the Browns, and I've never asked Heart about it,
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: but I need to. I like retraced he I was
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: crushing the quarterback. I think I retraced and I went
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: back and he caught a ball and he started to
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: turn up and I hit him directly in the back
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: of the head, and.
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: I thought he was out. For a second. I thought
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: he was out there, and he popped.
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: Up because he's tough as nails And I've never asked him,
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: but I don't know if he was out or not
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: great to him either?
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: What?
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: But does he know? You don't know if well, does
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: he know it was you? No, we've never talked. I
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: don't know why I've never Your friends probably wouldn't remember that.
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, multiple different heart lives of scrappy SOB and he's awesome.
• 13:41
  Speaker 5: That's Ohio state on Ohio State crime.
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's why I'm saying he probably doesn't remember because
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: it's just running. It's just what he does. Yeah, of course,
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: guys hitting the back of the head all the time.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: I just love the idea.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: You could be hanging out with your friend and your
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: friend you know, took your knee out four years ago.
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that'd be I It would not be fun.
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: Some guys can get over it.
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we appreciate you doing this man, the American Century Championship.
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• 15:28
  Speaker 2: Best for last year at the American Century Championships. Robert
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: Salas with us, the head coach of the Tennessee Titans,
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: and we just had a funny moment on the range
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: where you were hitting the ball so well, coach that
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: I said to you, I'm gonna put a flyer on you.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: And what that means is I'm gonna sprinkle a little.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Bit of cash on you because you're you look that
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: good that stay in the range. Your son turns to me.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: You're having a moment with him, and he says, don't.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: You know what I called myself? Ranger?
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Rick?
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Tiger Woods was standing there.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: You might think you this competition, but no, right, so
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: this is your first time? Is this your first time
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: in Lake Tahoe period?
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we came up here. You know, the the Niners
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: do an outstanding even here for their sponsors. They they
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: moved it. But when I first got to the Niners,
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: it was winterfest, right, and it was.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Out here right.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: H But this is your first American Century championship. So
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: you're doing carry today? God, why you have to?
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I think you have to.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: I'll feel you guys in. I was actually inquired back
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: in high school. I was inquired, that is shock t wife. Okay,
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: it's a good way to meet that girl. That's a
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: heavy play, coach. But but we're not singing.
• 16:35
  Speaker 7: But you have a good singing voice that if you inquire,
• 16:37
  Speaker 7: depends on who you're talking in the shower. It sounds awesome, right, Well,
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: just like on the Rain the performance anxiety.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: But you know these guys all right, so you know
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: like this is this is a big brotherhood, right, They're
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: all really tight.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: They're gonna put some pressure on you, just saying okay,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have a gun to my.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: Coach.
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: You broke into coaching back in two thousand and two
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: at Michigan State. You were making six hundred dollars a month. Yeah,
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: when you think back to those days, what's something that
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: experience taught you that you still carry with you today?
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: A shit, I feel like we spent six hundred dollars
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: a week in door dash.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: But that's it, huh. I have twin girls. I mean
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: it's more for me.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: On one person a lots lots going on, you know,
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: like I'm fortunate I've I was in the banking industry beforehand,
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: and you know, I've always uh I shouldn't say I always,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: but what I've learned is that if you do what
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: you love, it'll love you back. And that's kind of
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: what going through that making it wasn't about money for me,
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: Like I was making good money at the bank. Did
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: not like waking up in the morning, going and jumping
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: in rush hour traffic, driving to nine o'clock job, leaving
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: at five and people were great. Just didn't like doing it.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: And in my message to anyone who's willing to listen
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: is that if you if you do what you love,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: it'll love you back somehow someway. They may not love
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: you with money, but it'll love you with peace of
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: mind and actual joy. And we got a short time
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: on earth, might as well enjoy.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I love that. What do you love about coaching so much? Uh?
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: Just there's so many layers. There's there's the teaching part
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: of it. There's the competitive part of it. There's the
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: every day is something new part of it. There's uh,
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: the brotherhood part of it. There's there's so many layers
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: to it. In terms of football, it's sport.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: I grew up in sport. I I was, I was,
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: I was. I was a water boy for my brother's
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: football team when I was five years old. And uh,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: you know, I just I don't know it any other way.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: My son and I, even though he just took up golf,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: he talks smack all the time about my golf game,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: even though he hasn't he hasn't beat.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Me yet, but he's like, well, he just did on
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: the reins to me.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: And every day, every time I say it, he says,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: I'm coming, you know, and he's got it. It's gonna happen.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be funding him off for as long as
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: you can, right.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: So if you you know so. So with regard to
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: your question, man, I've learned that if you truly love
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: something you you you throw all your heart and passion
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: into it. Uh, something that's gonna happen.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: So this is your second head coaching stamp. What you
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: learn the first time around that you'll hopefully won't make
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: the same mistakes the second time around.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Ah that's a laundry list, man, you know. But I
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: always try to try to create a parallel for people
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: ask me that question. So, for like, you, what have
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: you learned since your first day being.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: A host to listen better?
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But like like, there's no handbook, There is no handbook.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: You just learn and you learn and you do things
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: and you have conviction on what you're doing, and then
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: you're like, eh, I want a good idea, and then
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: you step back and you reevaluate and you debrief yourself
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: and you find ways to improve upon everything that you've done.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: And there's some things that we did at the Jets
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: that I thought were great and we'll continue to do.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: There's some things that I didn't like that will change,
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: and there's and there's some things that I think we're
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: good that probably won't work out here and we're going
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: to have to change it up. So you just got
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: to keep an open mind, keep evolving, keep asking yourself
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: hard questions and evaluating and being truthful with yourself with
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: regards to was what you're doing in that moment good enough?
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: And if the answers yes, keep it going. If it's not,
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: you gotta change it.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: So it's not any one thing, it's just constantly it's interesting.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: Coach, we love cam Ward as a defensive minded coach.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: What jumps off the tape when you watch cam Ward?
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: He's talented.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: First off, he's talented, But like, I don't think the
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: tape and I and I say this respectfully because I
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: think his tape is fantastic. I don't think the tape
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: really doesn't justice because you know, I came in, we
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: studied him, you know, we played him last year when
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: I was at San Francis going, I was like, man,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: it's a really talented young man. And and you hear things,
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: you know, you get the report. Uh, you talk to
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: the college scouts houses workout or his work ethic when
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: he was coming out of the draft, and they talk
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: about it, and you're just trying to get a feel
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: for the man. Being around him, watching him practice, watching
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: his day to day habits has created a whole new
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: appreciation for him. He's got an elite mindset. Uh, he
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: can move on to the next place. Like he has
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: he has very very short term memory. Yeah, so important. Yeah.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: And and to be honest with you, like when we
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: go move the ball in practice, I mean I don't
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: think we've stopped him yet. You know, he's just a
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: elite improviser. He can play with instructure, he can play
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: on schedule, and he can he can improvise and uh
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: and but but most importantly, like the man easy elap.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: And that's the most important for you by far.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so your defense has to be like that's that's
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: awesome for your defense, only only from the standpoint. I
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: know you get mad at them because they can't stop them,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: but they're not going to face too many guys as
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: talented as he is.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: I look at like, we're gonna be all right.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I know that.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: But I look at my coordinator when he throws a
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: ball and I'm like.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: He's giving a little fist pump on the table.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: But it's who you know. You're the head coach. You
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: can't share. So like when he throws dimes, I'm like yes,
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: And when we're.
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: Making stops, I'm like just inside, I'm just just a
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: ball of happiness.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: That is so good.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: You want to ask him about the Royal Rubble here, So, coach,
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: we have this debate all the time on the show.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: If every NFL coach was entered into the Royal Rumble,
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: who would win? After seeing you in person? Yeah, it's
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: not even a question. So who would finish second. I
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: guess here's what I'll say.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: People don't realize that one thing I always get when
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: people see me in person, They're like, Wow, you're a
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: lot bigger in person than I thought. Well, I'm standing
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: next to six foot five monsters right football field.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, now you're standing next to me.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's how people see me. And so so, keeping
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: that in mind, you think about Dan Campbell, Mike Vrabel,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell, Demico Ryans, all the former players.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: They're freaking huge. Yes, Kevin O'Connell's shocked us.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: They're just they're just they're just enormous balls of muscle. Yes,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: and like like they're they're they're professional athletes for a reason.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: So I'll give you guys this story. So I was
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: twenty five years old and I was probably in the
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: best shape of my life. I was about two thirty,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: just elite and just in tremendous shape. I was running
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: with the guys, with the players when I was a
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: quality control out of Houston, and I was lifting with them,
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: and I could throw with all of them. And so Demico,
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: we drafted Miko Ryans and we do a pair up drill.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: But they're only it's an odd number of linebackers and
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I've got to pair up with it. So I'm the
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: I'm the assistant linebackers coach. I was like, you know,
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: I'll pair up with the miko and we're doing this
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: shock drill, right, And so the linebackers coach, Johnny Holland goes,
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: you want a bag? I was like, nah, I'm good,
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: and he just two hand jams me and knocks the
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: wind out of me, right, you know, like, I don't
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: think people really understand how strong, Yes, these professional athletes are,
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: So with the whole royal rumbo question, just just list
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: all the professional the ones that were former professional athletes.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Let them I forgot about the meek.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let them go play by themselves. Well all all
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: of us other guys will go over here somewhere and play.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: So that is so great, all right, But from the
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: non playing division, you agree you would win and laterly
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: got landslide, right, I mean, it doesn't matter, all right,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: So how's the game? How are you feeling headed into
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: this tournam because guys getting nervous when they stop. But
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: like ja Billis tells me, I don't know what's like
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: to play in the Masters except for this weekend. And
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: then I get a feeling of what it's like a
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: golf ball because you're killing it on the tee on
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: the driving range, But when you get out there and
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: people are watching, it's a whole different thing.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: Right, It's different. And you know, my son asked me,
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: because Dad, you're out on the football field. That doesn't
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: bother that. Well, I'm in my element.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, you're confident there, your max confidence here.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: I know we're going to be good. We're the best
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: in the world, just like I'm sure the golfers are
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: like that. Like I don't think Tiger Woods goes up
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: there at Rory or all those guys are like, oh
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: my god, someone's watching me, you know, just critiquing every
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: little bit of my swinging. Yes, you know they've got
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: elite confidence. They're in their element. They can do it.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: But you know, it's it's a different dynamic for sure.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: And uh, you know, the the and and truth be told.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Like I'm sure a lot of these guys. When we
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: go golfing with people, everyone's generous.
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: Like, hey, take that ten footer, coach, just night down
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: for a bout. Now, I got to I can't pick
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: this up so like, the whole thing is different.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: He's not letting you pick it up.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: We're not picking up nothing. But but every time I'm golfing,
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: it says, you know, people are generous. They give you
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: those five six footers, and I look at it him
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: like that, I'd probably make one out of Lise. And
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: we're gonna learn that this week.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: We'll get you out of here just a second. Chris
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Sims is a friend of ours. He's a friend of
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: the show. He's very close with Kyle shan you know
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: very well. Is it weird that Chris Simms has a
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: KS tattooed on his ankle because he's that friendly with Kyle.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, Kyle has the same one.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I know. It's weird, though, you know.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: What, if you love him, man, if you love anybody enough.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, shoot, I'm not who might have done. Me
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: and Matt Lafleuur have stories about each other that I
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: will never tell. We don't have it on our ankles
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: or anything, so people will never know. But so you're
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: okay with I'll say, Kyle Shanahan and Chris Sims have
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: a friendship that's that's unique, and their bond is close.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: And I think that's special. So they have tattoos on
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: one another.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: He's such a great coach, Kyle.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: What's the thing you like, the most important thing you
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: learned from Kyle Shanahan.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: He's so good at his he is he he he
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: helped me a lot as a defensive coordinator, you know,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: just his the way he sees the game. Yeah, and
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: just teaching me a lot about what they look for.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: So you know, I played offense in college and then
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: and to have him just kind of explain how he
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: sees the game in the space that they're chasing really
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: helped me evolve as a coordinator. And just the way
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: he prepares his players. And look, I've just been fortunate,
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: you know, my entire career between Kyle Shanahan. His dad
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: was a big part of it for me in the
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: early parts of me being a decordinator, Gary Kopiak and
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: and then you look at Pete Carroll and his staffs
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: out there. Man, I've been I've been lucky.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: The American Century Championship. You were in that room last night.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: We were in that room last night, given a standing
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: ovation to you know Kachuk And yeah, it was so cool. Right,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: you've been here long enough now even though it's your
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: first time to see what makes this thing so special
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: and why they all want to come back every year.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, you know this whole this whole thing has
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: been great. It's been a great experience. It's funny. After
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: the first t shot, I today cranked one about right
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: or right, and I was looking at my son. I
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I think this is gonna be our
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: last one. As we went through, I was like, this
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: is actually fun. Yes, and I'm excited for the weekend,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Like I've come to Grip said, I'm a horseship golfer
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: and I'm gonna enjoy my horseship golf today.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Jay Bell has told us if he wasn't invited back,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: his wife would leave him and marry someone else who
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: was invited.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: You know, it's funny. My wife was supposed to come right,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: you know, this is supposed to be our last and
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: get away before we uh get the camp, before we
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: before we get the camp, and you know she just
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: wasn't ready to let the one one year old on
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: his own. Yes, smart, Yes, So I brought my oldest
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: to be my caddies.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: So yeah, what a great weekend.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: That is great weekend.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Enjoy the hell out of it.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Enjoy it, man, I appreciate, we appreciate you doing this, brother,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, so much.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: All right, I appreciate the great Robert salad with us,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: head coach of the Tennessee Titans.