Latest / Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning / Highlights for Curtis and Larry
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well, as you know, both Larry and Natalie and our audience,
- 0:04Speaker 1: there's a whole group of people out there who have
- 0:07Speaker 1: labeled me the nightmare. That's what they call me. Oh,
- 0:10Speaker 1: you're the nightmare. Because I roam the streets.
- 0:13Speaker 2: I'm nocturnal.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Subway, streets.
- 0:16Speaker 3: I think it's really important that when they call you
- 0:18Speaker 3: a nightmare, we get the spelling down properly. Is it
- 0:22Speaker 3: N-A-Y-O-R or M-A-R-E at the end?
- 0:27Speaker 1: Or K-N-I-G-H-T. That's what I was just thinking.
- 0:31Speaker 4: I could see you as a knight. Put you in
- 0:33Speaker 4: a suit of armor.
- 0:35Speaker 5: To tell you the truth, when you first started with us,
- 0:37Speaker 5: and we obviously get a lot of social media about you,
- 0:40Speaker 5: and people were.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Calling you the Nightmare, and I was like, is that
- 0:43Speaker 2: a good thing or a bad thing?
- 0:45Speaker 4: I wasn't sure.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Like Nightmare on Elm Street.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Right?
- 0:48Speaker 2: But no, it is.
- 0:50Speaker 1: It's a great thing. Well, if you're a criminal out there,
- 0:53Speaker 1: you don't want to face Curtis Sliwa. After 12 o'clock,
- 0:58Speaker 1: it's the witching hour. Nothing good happens after 12 midnight.
- 1:01Speaker 1: So if you're at a bar, if you're at a club,
- 1:04Speaker 1: whatever it is, nothing good happens. And especially if you're
- 1:08Speaker 1: in the streets, you really got to watch your back then.
- 1:10Speaker 1: It's all kinds of problems. There's homeless, emotionally disturbed. There
- 1:14Speaker 1: are people who want to rob you. But there is
- 1:18Speaker 1: a group of criminals now that we know exists, and
- 1:21Speaker 1: we've talked about this. At 4 o'clock in the morning,
- 1:25Speaker 1: it's their witching hour. They know that they will be
- 1:28Speaker 1: unmolested out there by law enforcement because there are no
- 1:32Speaker 1: cops out in the streets. So we just talked about
- 1:34Speaker 1: that issue in Middle Village. The sewer guy is coming out.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Notice what time did they emerge? 4 a.m. in the morning.
- 1:41Speaker 1: because they know there are no cops around. The other
- 1:44Speaker 1: one is the case that I've been on repeatedly, and
- 1:48Speaker 1: I've talked about it here from time to time. In fact,
- 1:51Speaker 1: we're going to call it a public service announcement because
- 1:54Speaker 1: I've gotten so many emails and texts from people from
- 1:58Speaker 1: all over the tri-state area who've had this happen to them.
- 2:01Speaker 1: The theft of your mail When you do what you
- 2:05Speaker 1: were taught to do as a kid, remember when your
- 2:08Speaker 1: parents first brought you to one of those blue mailboxes,
- 2:11Speaker 1: told you how to open it up, told you how
- 2:14Speaker 1: to put the mail in? We're sending this to your
- 2:16Speaker 1: grandpa and grandma. You know, it's their wedding anniversary. Here, Curtis,
- 2:20Speaker 1: put it in, put it in, right? And yet there
- 2:24Speaker 1: is theft of the mail on a regular basis. Even
- 2:27Speaker 1: our program director, Tom Cuddy, has sent me videos of
- 2:31Speaker 1: theft of mail in Connecticut, broad daylight. You know, they
- 2:34Speaker 1: roll up, they're on their motorbikes. They don't even bother
- 2:38Speaker 1: covering their face. They might as well be waving at
- 2:40Speaker 1: all the cameras and they just steal the mail. And
- 2:44Speaker 1: I've described it before as to how they do this
- 2:49Speaker 1: and how I chase them out of the neighborhood. And
- 2:52Speaker 1: I had had a confrontation with some of them and
- 2:54Speaker 1: they had gone away for a while, but I know,
- 2:56Speaker 1: I know they're going to come back and they're going
- 2:58Speaker 1: to come back in force. It doesn't matter. I've alerted
- 3:00Speaker 1: the 80th precinct on the West side, West 82nd. They
- 3:04Speaker 1: treat me like a person of no consequence.
- 3:07Speaker 2: The U.S.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Postal Inspectors, because this is a federal crime. When we
- 3:10Speaker 1: were growing up, we were told, I remember my father, oh,
- 3:13Speaker 1: anybody stealing the mail, you know, you walk into the
- 3:16Speaker 1: post office at 10 Most Wanted, your picture could be
- 3:19Speaker 1: up there because you don't steal the mail. They don't
- 3:21Speaker 1: play around. And you would see the postal officers. They
- 3:25Speaker 1: carry guns. They have badges. They don't play around.
- 3:28Speaker 2: Nothing.
- 3:30Speaker 1: So I've been on their case. In fact, even on
- 3:32Speaker 1: Natalie Magliore, remember, she took photographs of mail outside a mailbox,
- 3:39Speaker 1: broad daylight, not far from where we broadcast iHeart, all
- 3:42Speaker 1: dumped on the ground. You could see that these banditos
- 3:45Speaker 1: went through the mail. You know, they sliced it open.
- 3:48Speaker 1: If there was nothing of value in it, like a
- 3:50Speaker 1: gift certificate or a check or anything, or cash, which
- 3:55Speaker 1: sometimes older people will send.
- 3:56Speaker 2: What do they do with checks? They wash them.
- 3:59Speaker 1: So it's like a place you go where they'll actually
- 4:04Speaker 1: take and bleach the checks, and then they'll write it in,
- 4:08Speaker 1: and then they'll try to cash it, and they have
- 4:10Speaker 1: all kinds of contacts to do that. So it can
- 4:12Speaker 1: be quite lucrative, but it's all based on volume. So
- 4:15Speaker 1: I've been chasing these guys in the wee hours of
- 4:17Speaker 1: the morning, and the cops have warned them, man. You
- 4:21Speaker 1: may not know this guy with that red beret, but
- 4:23Speaker 1: you do not want to meet him. He's on a
- 4:25Speaker 1: mission and he's here to stop you. And it stopped
- 4:28Speaker 1: for a while. So two guys early this morning, I
- 4:30Speaker 1: see them. Brand new motorbike, same color, same make, same model.
- 4:35Speaker 1: No license plates, of course, not in New York City.
- 4:37Speaker 1: They're dressed all in black. You know, they have the
- 4:40Speaker 1: baklavas around their face. They have the black wool caps
- 4:45Speaker 1: on and they're right on the corner. And I can
- 4:48Speaker 1: see they're like they're preparing to go into action to
- 4:51Speaker 1: steal from the blue mailboxes. So like a ninja, I
- 4:55Speaker 1: sneak up on them from behind. And I have, if
- 4:57Speaker 1: you notice, notice I don't have my dress shoes. I
- 4:59Speaker 1: have my sneaker shoes on. So they can't hear me coming.
- 5:03Speaker 1: And then I scream it.
- 5:04Speaker 2: Get the F out of my neighborhood.
- 5:09Speaker 1: And I bump one and he drops what he has.
- 5:13Speaker 1: And look at this. I showed it to you, Larry.
- 5:15Speaker 1: They were in the process of putting the stickum on
- 5:18Speaker 1: the belt because they take their belt and they put
- 5:21Speaker 1: it down the slot of the blue mailbox, which they
- 5:24Speaker 1: now make the slot so tiny thin you can barely
- 5:28Speaker 1: get the mail in.
- 5:29Speaker 2: It's funny.
- 5:29Speaker 3: He's showing me an envelope and taped on the front
- 5:32Speaker 3: of it, I guess just glue stuck on the front
- 5:34Speaker 3: of it. It says, glued traps for mice and insects.
- 5:38Speaker 3: And he was so excited when he came in today.
- 5:40Speaker 3: He said, look at this, look at this.
- 5:42Speaker 2: I got him.
- 5:43Speaker 3: And so I thought he had a mouse problem because
- 5:46Speaker 3: I thought to myself, what is it?
- 5:48Speaker 2: Don't you have cats?
- 5:48Speaker 1: Yes. We have no rat, no mice problem. In fact,
- 5:53Speaker 1: a cockroach doesn't even feel safe scurrying along the floor.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Because I was trying to figure out what you were
- 5:57Speaker 2: doing with a glue trap for mice, but it makes sense.
- 6:01Speaker 1: This is what they were. They were preparing their belt.
- 6:03Speaker 1: They were going to go on their mission. And they
- 6:05Speaker 1: had it stuck on this one letter. It was to
- 6:08Speaker 1: an address in Chicago. And let me read this, because
- 6:11Speaker 1: it's mostly people of our generation who send letters in cart. Oh,
- 6:15Speaker 1: you even have the card that was inside.
- 6:16Speaker 2: Yes. And I doubt there was any money. Who knows?
- 6:20Speaker 1: Maybe they snatched whatever money.
- 6:21Speaker 2: This is legal?
- 6:23Speaker 1: This is legal.
- 6:24Speaker 2: Okay.
- 6:24Speaker 1: So the outside of the car says, amazing.
- 6:27Speaker 2: Wahoo.
- 6:28Speaker 1: Congratulations. Well done.
- 6:30Speaker 2: You did it. Yay.
- 6:31Speaker 1: You can tell it's like a family. We are all
- 6:34Speaker 1: rooting for you and can't wait to visit. Call us anytime.
- 6:39Speaker 1: We love you so much and miss you already.
- 6:42Speaker 5: Awful that that person isn't getting that.
- 6:44Speaker 1: Mom.
- 6:45Speaker 2: And it's too. They will now. They will now.
- 6:47Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
- 6:48Speaker 1: I'm going to send it there. And we are also
- 6:50Speaker 1: proud of you as you take this big step forward
- 6:53Speaker 1: towards starting college. We know it will be an exciting
- 6:56Speaker 1: next four years for you as you pursue your dreams.
- 7:01Speaker 2: You know that. We know that.
- 7:05Speaker 1: We'll support you with whatever you need. I mean, this
- 7:07Speaker 1: is heartfelt.
- 7:08Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness.
- 7:09Speaker 2: These are grandparents? Is that what that is? No, parents.
- 7:12Speaker 2: They're the parents?
- 7:13Speaker 1: Mom. XOXO mom. So you say to yourself, this is
- 7:18Speaker 1: our generation. This is how we communicate.
- 7:21Speaker 2: Remember?
- 7:21Speaker 1: Oh, you trust the U.S.
- 7:23Speaker 2: Mail. You know, put it in the blue mailbox. Guess what?
- 7:27Speaker 1: They steal the mail. Most of it is of no
- 7:29Speaker 1: value to them. And then they just discard it. They
- 7:32Speaker 1: throw it on the street. And so there is no
- 7:35Speaker 1: effort on the part of the NYPD or the U.S.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Postal Inspectors to stop these banditos. So I'm taking it
- 7:42Speaker 1: on my own. I'm going to make sure that this
- 7:45Speaker 1: card gets to the person. The address in Chicago is
- 7:49Speaker 1: on it. But now you've seen the evidence. And if
- 7:52Speaker 1: they're not going to do anything about it, I'm taking
- 7:55Speaker 1: matters into my own hands. So to you and Tom
- 7:58Speaker 1: Cuddy and the ownership and management of iHeart, If I
- 8:01Speaker 1: happen to miss a morning, don't worry about it. I'll
- 8:04Speaker 1: be out in an hour. Don't worry, 80th Precinct. You
- 8:08Speaker 1: can sit on your ass there and do nothing, but
- 8:11Speaker 1: you'll release me in an hour because unless you kill somebody,
- 8:14Speaker 1: everybody gets released in New York City.
- 8:16Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Yeah, well, nice job.
- 8:18Speaker 3: That's really great that you're doing this because there's a
- 8:21Speaker 3: lot of people that send some heartfelt notes that never
- 8:25Speaker 3: get there.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Don't put it in the blue mailbox.
- 8:28Speaker 1: Go to your post office or your postal guy or
- 8:31Speaker 1: gal when they come to give you the mail. Give
- 8:33Speaker 1: them the mail that's going to be mailed out. Do
- 8:35Speaker 1: not put it in a blue box or you're playing
- 8:37Speaker 1: Santa Claus. And if there's any value in that, you
- 8:41Speaker 1: can forget about it.
- 8:42Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell you what, too. When you were reading
- 8:44Speaker 3: that note... I used to love to get letters. You
- 8:48Speaker 3: don't get letters anymore or cards anymore. Everybody just emails
- 8:52Speaker 3: you now.
- 8:52Speaker 6: I know.
- 8:53Speaker 5: I got a couple of cards when I was, you know,
- 8:55Speaker 5: home recuperating from surgery for my knee.
- 8:58Speaker 2: And, you know, a lot of people, a lot of texts,
- 9:00Speaker 2: a lot of calls. But I got a couple of
- 9:02Speaker 2: cards and it was so nice.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 9:04Speaker 2: My sister, who.
- 9:06Speaker 3: Unfortunately has passed, used to write letters all the time.
- 9:11Speaker 3: used to write letters constantly. So you'd, you'd get, you'd
- 9:13Speaker 3: look forward to it.
- 9:14Speaker 2: Oh, it's special.
- 9:15Speaker 1: When you get a hand written letter, you realize, wow,
- 9:18Speaker 1: whoever wrote this, put a lot of effort into it.
- 9:20Speaker 1: This is not junk mail. You know, this is not a,
- 9:23Speaker 1: Curtis Lee, we're running for mayor. Please send me money
- 9:25Speaker 1: so I can become your next mayor. This is like, boom,
- 9:28Speaker 1: this is a personalized note. And you really, no matter
- 9:32Speaker 1: how many other messages you get, those are the ones
- 9:34Speaker 1: you always remember. You save them.
- 9:36Speaker 2: Yes.
- 9:36Speaker 3: I used to, I still have my sister's letters that
- 9:39Speaker 3: meant so much to me. My dad did the same thing.
- 9:41Speaker 3: My dad wrote to everybody. And he used to tell
- 9:45Speaker 3: stories about them and make up poems about them. And
- 9:49Speaker 3: everybody has saved my dad's stuff.
- 9:51Speaker 1: So, Larry, if I have to do what I have
- 9:54Speaker 1: to do, and only I know what has to be done,
- 9:58Speaker 1: you all have to forgive me. if I happen to
- 10:00Speaker 1: be missing an action one morning in broadcasting here. You know,
- 10:04Speaker 1: a little paperwork. You know, the cops. I'll be out
- 10:07Speaker 1: before the cops finish the paperwork. But this has got
- 10:10Speaker 1: to stop. And if Jessica Tisch, the NYPD commissioner, won't
- 10:15Speaker 1: prioritize this or the U.S. Postal Service, it is a
- 10:18Speaker 1: federal crime. And remember, they also follow the guys and
- 10:22Speaker 1: gals in the morning. You run into them on the
- 10:24Speaker 1: Amazon little bicycles, you know, with the trailer behind them.
- 10:28Speaker 1: The porch pirates, they also come out at 4 o'clock
- 10:31Speaker 1: in the morning because they know there are no cops around.
- 10:33Speaker 5: I just can't stop thinking about this mom who put this,
- 10:36Speaker 5: you know, letter in there for her son.
- 10:37Speaker 1: I know.
- 10:38Speaker 2: I'm feeling the same thing. And I'm thinking, you know what?
- 10:41Speaker 2: If there was money in it and it's gone, it's gone. Okay.
- 10:44Speaker 5: But she might think that she sent it. Her son
- 10:47Speaker 5: never responds. Then she gets angry at her son. Like,
- 10:50Speaker 5: how could he not even like call me after that note?
- 10:53Speaker 5: And it could spiral into like a whole family feud now.
- 10:57Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point. That's a really good point.
- 11:01Speaker 2: You saved a lot of heartache. You did. You just
- 11:04Speaker 2: saved a whole lot of heartache.
- 11:04Speaker 1: Think of how many thousands every day this happens to.
- 11:08Speaker 2: So now if you were to get arrested, I'd do
- 11:11Speaker 2: the show by myself? Absolutely.
- 11:12Speaker 4: Oh, boy.
- 11:13Speaker 1: Look at his face. But I expect now in the
- 11:18Speaker 1: chance that Alvin Bragg may hear it's Curtis Sliwa, America's
- 11:23Speaker 1: number one vigilante, and decide to make an example of me,
- 11:27Speaker 1: will my... Fellow brothers and sisters in solidarity, pony up
- 11:33Speaker 1: the money, the bail money to get me out.
- 11:35Speaker 2: Eventually. How many days after? After two or three shows.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Anyway, on that note, we've resolved the missing bodega cat issue,
- 11:45Speaker 1: but there are quite a few twists and turns there
- 11:48Speaker 1: in Park Slope in Brooklyn. Plus, a chance to see
- 11:51Speaker 1: Richard Marks at 825.
- 11:55Speaker 4: New York's new wake-up call. Curtis Lewa and Larry Minty
- 12:00Speaker 4: in the morning. On 710WOR.
- 12:04Speaker 1: Well, the whole world is talking about AI and the
- 12:08Speaker 1: many ancillary subjects that affect artificial intelligence. Yesterday, Rich DeMuro,
- 12:15Speaker 1: Rich on Tech, which is heard Sunday nights from 8
- 12:17Speaker 1: to 11, right here on 710WOR. Conference in San Francisco,
- 12:24Speaker 1: you had the CEO of Anthropic and the CEO of
- 12:28Speaker 1: OpenAI on one side of the stage saying, hey, we
- 12:31Speaker 1: got to put the brakes on this thing. It's starting
- 12:33Speaker 1: to get out of control. But the guy who provides
- 12:36Speaker 1: almost all the chips from the video, the CEO, Jensen Wang,
- 12:41Speaker 1: taking the Trump attitude, no, no, no, no, full speed ahead,
- 12:45Speaker 1: no guardrails, no government interference. It's very, very confusing for everyone.
- 12:52Speaker 1: Can you help us sort this out? What are the pros?
- 12:55Speaker 1: What are the cons? So that maybe some of our
- 12:57Speaker 1: listeners can come to their own conclusions. I mean, I agree.
- 13:02Speaker 6: This is, and I'm sure at that conference in San Francisco,
- 13:05Speaker 6: it is a hot topic. Everyone has a take on this,
- 13:08Speaker 6: whether you work at one of these AI companies or
- 13:10Speaker 6: whether you're a consumer. And, you know, when you throw
- 13:12Speaker 6: around things like AI is going to eliminate humanity, that's
- 13:17Speaker 6: a big claim. And we don't know if that's possible anymore.
- 13:20Speaker 6: how that would happen or if that could happen. But
- 13:23Speaker 6: we do know one thing, AI is advancing. It is
- 13:26Speaker 6: unlike anything that we've ever had, I think, that I've
- 13:30Speaker 6: ever seen as a tech tool in my lifetime. And
- 13:32Speaker 6: I think that it is advancing at such a rapid clip.
- 13:35Speaker 6: And the thing is, this is what we don't know.
- 13:38Speaker 6: We don't know what happens to these systems when they
- 13:40Speaker 6: are left to do what they want to do. And
- 13:43Speaker 6: so there's one term I think that people should understand,
- 13:46Speaker 6: and it's alignment. This is the idea of that AI
- 13:49Speaker 6: is on our side, right? On the side of humanity.
- 13:52Speaker 6: But guess what? There are always bad people out there.
- 13:56Speaker 6: There are always people that are going to program this
- 13:57Speaker 6: stuff to not be aligned with us. And we don't
- 14:00Speaker 6: know if AI will continue to stay aligned with our values.
- 14:05Speaker 6: And by the way, lots of us have different values.
- 14:08Speaker 6: So what are those values exactly? So I understand that
- 14:11Speaker 6: the CEOs of these companies that want to get this
- 14:14Speaker 6: debate out in the open are I also think there's
- 14:16Speaker 6: a lot of money at stake, obviously, on the side
- 14:18Speaker 6: of NVIDIA. They have invested a lot in this. They
- 14:21Speaker 6: stand to make a lot of money based on all
- 14:23Speaker 6: the investment in AI. And these companies, OpenAI and Anthropic,
- 14:28Speaker 6: are already well-established. So any regulations may continue to help
- 14:32Speaker 6: them thrive versus a startup. But the bottom line, I think,
- 14:36Speaker 6: Larry and Curtis, is that there are many players in
- 14:39Speaker 6: this industry, not just here in the U.S., not just
- 14:42Speaker 6: these big companies we're talking about. There are so many
- 14:44Speaker 6: different sides to this entire situation.
- 14:47Speaker 3: There was a couple other things they kept mentioning at
- 14:50Speaker 3: the conference, and it was the first time I heard it.
- 14:54Speaker 3: They kept saying every once in a while it left containment.
- 14:57Speaker 3: We have 18 cases of it leaving containment. And I
- 15:01Speaker 3: kept wondering, what the heck does that mean? And I
- 15:04Speaker 3: did some digging, and all it means is that it
- 15:06Speaker 3: was autonomous. It went out on its own. It was
- 15:09Speaker 3: thinking on its own, and it did something. That's, that's
- 15:12Speaker 3: a little frightening. It is.
- 15:14Speaker 6: And it's, it's one of these things where, you know,
- 15:16Speaker 6: if you use open AI, if you use, you know,
- 15:18Speaker 6: chat GBT on your computer, there's this idea that it
- 15:21Speaker 6: can take over your computer, right? It can actually do things.
- 15:23Speaker 6: We call this agentic AI and smartphones are getting the
- 15:26Speaker 6: same way where your phone can actually take action.
- 15:30Speaker 2: And a simple example is if.
- 15:31Speaker 6: You wanted to call an Uber, you would just tell
- 15:34Speaker 6: your AI, Hey, I need a ride to the airport.
- 15:37Speaker 6: And it would grab you that ride in the background.
- 15:40Speaker 6: And then it would just say, okay, I found you
- 15:42Speaker 6: your top three options. Which one do you want me
- 15:44Speaker 6: to book? Now, that's a simple, easy use of AI autonomously.
- 15:49Speaker 6: But when you think about all the things that people
- 15:51Speaker 6: may program AI to do, hey, go out and find
- 15:55Speaker 6: that nuclear reactor and see if there's any issues in
- 15:58Speaker 6: their programming that we can exploit. Now, and this thing
- 16:01Speaker 6: is like a pit bull, right? It goes out there
- 16:04Speaker 6: and it just figures out any way it can to
- 16:07Speaker 6: get into that system. And that's the scary part.
- 16:09Speaker 1: One last question on this, Rich, before we move on
- 16:11Speaker 1: to other issues involving the tech world. They have this
- 16:15Speaker 1: one level they call superintelligence. I'm assuming that means even
- 16:20Speaker 1: if Einstein was sitting there, that form of AI could
- 16:25Speaker 1: outbattle intellectually anything that Einstein laid on the table. What
- 16:29Speaker 1: is the difference when they say, well, there's superintelligence?
- 16:34Speaker 6: Well, I think superintelligence refers to beyond the capacity of
- 16:39Speaker 6: humans to understand it. I think that's really what it
- 16:41Speaker 6: comes down to. Right now, when you think about it,
- 16:43Speaker 6: if you use AI, you're sitting there and some of
- 16:46Speaker 6: the things it does, you're like, oh, that's pretty good.
- 16:48Speaker 6: But I understand that. I can do better. But when
- 16:51Speaker 6: we get AI that is smarter than any human anywhere,
- 16:54Speaker 6: and by the way, we already have kind of access
- 16:56Speaker 6: to this. If you think about AI as an extension
- 16:59Speaker 6: of your brain, we don't know all the answers instantly
- 17:02Speaker 6: about everything. There may be experts in fields that know
- 17:05Speaker 6: very specific things, But when you think about AI, it's
- 17:08Speaker 6: been programmed to know almost everything about everything in the world.
- 17:12Speaker 6: And that's really super intelligence when you think about it.
- 17:15Speaker 6: And right now, it's just locked into these chatbots. But
- 17:17Speaker 6: in the future, that may be walking around in some
- 17:20Speaker 6: sort of robot that understands everything, not just in the world,
- 17:24Speaker 6: but around it as well. And it just kind of
- 17:28Speaker 6: blows your mind when you start thinking about all of
- 17:30Speaker 6: the implications of this.
- 17:31Speaker 3: Let's get away from the scary stuff for one moment
- 17:34Speaker 3: and get to the fun stuff. I understand that you
- 17:37Speaker 3: have been able to handle one of Apple's iPhones that
- 17:41Speaker 3: are foldable.
- 17:42Speaker 2: What was the experience like?
- 17:45Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh.
- 17:45Speaker 6: I mean, I've used a lot of foldable phones over
- 17:48Speaker 6: the past seven years, back to the very first one
- 17:50Speaker 6: that Samsung had, and I think it was 2019. This
- 17:54Speaker 6: is the iPhone Duo. It's basically a small... passport style
- 17:58Speaker 6: screen outside. It opens up to a big screen inside,
- 18:01Speaker 6: almost eight inches. So it's almost like a mini iPad
- 18:03Speaker 6: in your pocket. It's expensive, $ 2, 000. But Apple really addressed
- 18:09Speaker 6: many of the concerns I've had with foldables, which is
- 18:12Speaker 6: the software is usually terrible.
- 18:15Speaker 1: Apple made it great.
- 18:16Speaker 6: The apps usually don't take advantage of this big screen
- 18:19Speaker 6: and larger form factor. Of course, app developers are very
- 18:23Speaker 6: excited to make their apps look great on this. And
- 18:26Speaker 6: they didn't have MagSafe. They weren't very durable. And they
- 18:29Speaker 6: didn't have, you know, stylus support. Apple has given this
- 18:32Speaker 6: thing all of those. So pre-orders start in October. This
- 18:36Speaker 6: thing will be in Apple stores on October 23rd. I
- 18:39Speaker 6: believe it will sell out. I think if you travel,
- 18:42Speaker 6: if you like having two apps open side by side,
- 18:44Speaker 6: or you just want the latest, coolest, greatest thing from Apple,
- 18:47Speaker 6: you'll love it. Camera's not going to be as good
- 18:50Speaker 6: as the Pro models, that's for sure.
- 18:53Speaker 1: Well, I do appreciate that.
- 18:54Speaker 2: Thank you, Rich.
- 18:55Speaker 1: A very momentous occasion, and you brought a lot of
- 18:59Speaker 1: clarity to this AI subject. It still has people wondering,
- 19:04Speaker 1: which way do we go? Do we go any way?
- 19:07Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you, thank you again, Rich, again.
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- 19:38Speaker 1: Wow.
- 19:39Speaker 2: All of a sudden.
- 19:41Speaker 1: An amazing eruption has taken place on Ed Sheeran's North America,
- 19:47Speaker 1: South America tour. He was going to devote months. going
- 19:50Speaker 1: from Canada all the way down to Argentina and Chile.
- 19:56Speaker 1: As you know, he's got quite a following out there.
- 19:58Speaker 1: He's done a number of amazing videos, a number of
- 20:01Speaker 1: amazing songs. And his opening act, Macklemore, who's a rapper,
- 20:08Speaker 1: white rapper, in fact, from Seattle, set it off when
- 20:12Speaker 1: they were at MetLife Stadium. And at MetLife Stadium, right
- 20:17Speaker 1: when he got into a song that was dedicated, Heinz Hall,
- 20:23Speaker 1: to what has happened with the Palestinian people, this was
- 20:26Speaker 1: on September 5th, while introducing the song, he said, free Palestine,
- 20:32Speaker 1: free Palestine, and then added, To all my Jewish brothers
- 20:36Speaker 1: and sisters, criticism of Israel, criticism of apartheid, being against genocide,
- 20:42Speaker 1: it is in no way criticism of you. Now, there
- 20:46Speaker 1: were a number of Jewish people who were in attendance
- 20:48Speaker 1: who took offense to it. They took videos of it.
- 20:52Speaker 1: There were others that didn't seem to have a problem
- 20:54Speaker 1: with it, but it took on a life of its
- 20:56Speaker 1: own because the tour is heading up to Gillette Stadium
- 21:01Speaker 1: outside of Boston. This is where the New England Patriots play.
- 21:05Speaker 1: And it's owned by Robert Kraft. And in fact, the
- 21:09Speaker 1: two hoped-for concert dates, which had already been booked, were
- 21:14Speaker 1: taking place next week. Two nights with Ed Sheeran and Macklemore.
- 21:20Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, within the last 48 hours,
- 21:25Speaker 1: Ed Sheeran has said, look, Macklemore will no longer be
- 21:28Speaker 1: my opening act. It's not anything that I chose. The
- 21:33Speaker 1: promoters of the tour have decided they can't go forward
- 21:36Speaker 1: because there are other venues that will not accept him
- 21:39Speaker 1: as part of my concert. He then went on to say,
- 21:43Speaker 1: I have my personal views on this devastating conflict, but
- 21:49Speaker 1: I'm not here to do politics. I'm here just to
- 21:52Speaker 1: entertain the crowd. Macklemore doubled down, and then apparently the
- 21:58Speaker 1: people who were going to replace Macklemore on the tour
- 22:01Speaker 1: as the opening act They also decided that they would
- 22:05Speaker 1: not participate. So it's come down to a situation where
- 22:09Speaker 1: Robert Kraft is the person who lobbied the other venues
- 22:13Speaker 1: not to accept the concert with Ed Sheeran if Macklemore
- 22:19Speaker 1: was part of it. So it wasn't just Gillette Stadium,
- 22:22Speaker 1: which he controls. He's the owner and operator of it.
- 22:25Speaker 1: but he lobbied the others. And now he's trying to
- 22:28Speaker 1: backpedal a bit and say, well, look, I agree. I
- 22:30Speaker 1: agree with Macklemore on some of the issues affecting Palestinian people.
- 22:34Speaker 1: I'd like to have a sit down and discuss this.
- 22:36Speaker 1: But what he did was anti-Semitic. And this gets to
- 22:39Speaker 1: the whole debate that is raging, not just in our area,
- 22:43Speaker 1: but all throughout America. If you criticize the government of
- 22:48Speaker 1: Israel now, does that make you anti-Semitic?
- 22:53Speaker 3: Yeah, let me go back to the concert for a second, though.
- 22:56Speaker 3: I feel so bad for Ed Sheeran at this point.
- 22:59Speaker 3: I mean, Ed Sheeran didn't ask for this. I've seen
- 23:01Speaker 3: Ed Sheeran in concert a couple of times. I'm a
- 23:05Speaker 3: fan of his. I've seen many interviews with him. He
- 23:08Speaker 3: tries to play it straight down the middle, never talks
- 23:11Speaker 3: about politics, never talks about anything controversial. And for this
- 23:16Speaker 3: to be laid on his doorstep, now all of the
- 23:20Speaker 3: sudden is just completely unfair. So let's just take him
- 23:24Speaker 3: out of the conversation because he really had nothing to
- 23:28Speaker 3: do with this. And now he's been put in this situation,
- 23:31Speaker 3: which is horrible. Now you have them trying to find
- 23:35Speaker 3: other opening acts, and they're all now saying, we're not
- 23:38Speaker 3: going to do it.
- 23:39Speaker 1: Correct.
- 23:40Speaker 3: One after another, after another, after half the people you
- 23:43Speaker 3: don't know. At Macklemore, by the way, of all the
- 23:46Speaker 3: people that are listed... like Boyegas. Who the heck is that?
- 23:51Speaker 3: All the other people that are listed, nobody knows, or
- 23:54Speaker 3: they have a very small fan base. At least Macklemore
- 23:57Speaker 3: was a name. And it wasn't just Kraft, it was
- 24:01Speaker 3: the promoter as well. The promoter is the one that
- 24:05Speaker 3: was talking to all the owners. Kraft did it at
- 24:07Speaker 3: his own place. I'm not sure he pressured everybody else.
- 24:10Speaker 3: The promoter said, We're not going to do this anymore.
- 24:13Speaker 3: We're not going to have this. I really believe, even
- 24:16Speaker 3: though Ed Sheeran's statement doesn't say this, I think Ed
- 24:20Speaker 3: Sheeran wants to be as far away from this as
- 24:23Speaker 3: he possibly can be. Can you imagine if he went
- 24:25Speaker 3: from city to city to city to city and each
- 24:28Speaker 3: person got up and made some type of political statement
- 24:31Speaker 3: before he got up?
- 24:32Speaker 2: That's the whole show.
- 24:33Speaker 3: They take all of the attention away from the headliner,
- 24:36Speaker 3: which is not their job. And so, listen, in this
- 24:42Speaker 3: whole thing, I feel like Ed Sheeran's a victim. And
- 24:46Speaker 3: nobody else is in this whole thing. He's taking a
- 24:49Speaker 3: lot of incoming people, aren't following him. People feel like
- 24:52Speaker 3: he should be supporting Macklemore, which he did as much
- 24:55Speaker 3: as he could without trying to get political. And I'm
- 25:00Speaker 3: sure that everybody listening right now, and I'd love to
- 25:02Speaker 3: hear your talk backs, everybody listening right now, they don't
- 25:05Speaker 3: go to a concert to hear anything political unless they're
- 25:10Speaker 3: being told ahead of time this is going to be
- 25:12Speaker 3: a political concert. Unless they're being told ahead of time,
- 25:15Speaker 3: like Springsteen used to do, now he just springs it
- 25:17Speaker 3: on you, Springsteen used to say, we're going to do
- 25:20Speaker 3: a political concert and I wouldn't go because I knew
- 25:22Speaker 3: what he was going to say. But listen, Macklemore was wrong.
- 25:29Speaker 3: He was absolutely wrong. I know he's being hailed as
- 25:32Speaker 3: a hero by the left right now, but he was wrong.
- 25:36Speaker 3: He shouldn't be up there espousing his political opinion.
- 25:40Speaker 2: When he's the opening act.
- 25:42Speaker 3: It's not fair to the venue owner. It's not fair
- 25:44Speaker 3: to the promoter. It's not fair to the headliner. And
- 25:47Speaker 3: so I'm glad he's off the tour. I'm glad he is.
- 25:49Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, Ed Sheeran can handle it
- 25:51Speaker 3: by himself.
- 25:52Speaker 1: Oh, there's no doubt he could handle it by himself.
- 25:54Speaker 1: But you're assuming that Ed Sheeran did not know this
- 25:57Speaker 1: about Macklemore. Macklemore has a history of doing this. Did
- 26:01Speaker 1: Ed Sheeran, when they signed him up, because now he's claiming, oh,
- 26:04Speaker 1: it's the promoters, the promoters who put him on the bill.
- 26:07Speaker 1: I don't buy that. When you're the star, you determine
- 26:10Speaker 1: who your opening acts are. If you're not happy with
- 26:12Speaker 1: the opening acts, you don't go on tour. Did Ed
- 26:14Speaker 1: Sheeran have a conversation with Macklemore? They're friends. He said, hey, Mack,
- 26:19Speaker 1: you know, if you're on my tour, I'd prefer that
- 26:22Speaker 1: you not do any political references because this is obviously
- 26:27Speaker 1: a tour that's going to go from North America to
- 26:29Speaker 1: South America. It's going to take many weeks, many months.
- 26:32Speaker 1: There are a lot of people involved with this. So
- 26:34Speaker 1: you're blaming Ed Sheeran for this? No, I'm just wondering
- 26:37Speaker 1: because obviously Ed Sheeran is not talking.
- 26:40Speaker 2: Ed Sheeran, by the way. Ed Sheeran.
- 26:41Speaker 6: Right.
- 26:42Speaker 2: He's blaming the promoters.
- 26:44Speaker 1: Promoters don't have that kind of power to tell you
- 26:47Speaker 1: your opening act has to be Macklemore.
- 26:49Speaker 2: Come on.
- 26:50Speaker 1: That's what Ed Sheeran seems to be implying is that
- 26:55Speaker 1: this is my opening act. This is what I was
- 26:56Speaker 1: told to do. This guy is a friend of his.
- 26:58Speaker 1: He knows Macklemore has done this before. And in fact,
- 27:01Speaker 1: Macklemore made this announcement in midlife right before he did
- 27:06Speaker 1: his song, Heinz Hall, which refers to the building at
- 27:10Speaker 1: Columbia University that was taken over.
- 27:12Speaker 2: Right.
- 27:13Speaker 1: By the pro-Palestinian crowd that, in fact, right now it's
- 27:16Speaker 1: all part of the news. Mahmoud Khalil is suing Columbia
- 27:20Speaker 1: because he led that demonstration.
- 27:22Speaker 2: We know that story.
- 27:24Speaker 1: So all of the.
- 27:25Speaker 3: Other people that are now on Ed Sheeran's side saying
- 27:30Speaker 3: that McLemore shouldn't have done that to him, they are
- 27:33Speaker 3: all being misguided. Sheeran lied, obviously, because you're saying, because
- 27:39Speaker 3: he says the promoters decided this, not me. And the
- 27:42Speaker 3: promoters are also saying this was our decision. But they're
- 27:45Speaker 3: all lying. So now this has turned not only, in
- 27:48Speaker 3: your mind, not only into some guy showing up and
- 27:53Speaker 3: ruining a concert, but now a big conspiracy against him.
- 27:58Speaker 1: No. I mean, do you really think– as big as
- 28:01Speaker 1: Ed Sheeran is, that he is forced to have Macklemore
- 28:05Speaker 1: as his opening act?
- 28:06Speaker 2: Do you really believe that? Oh, no, I didn't think
- 28:08Speaker 2: he was going to do this.
- 28:09Speaker 3: I did not think he– I think for– because he
- 28:12Speaker 3: went way overboard in this because he said F Israel
- 28:16Speaker 3: at one point. So he went way overboard. He didn't
- 28:19Speaker 3: say that. I'll get it for you.
- 28:21Speaker 2: Let me be specific again.
- 28:24Speaker 1: Because this falls right into the trap that if you
- 28:27Speaker 1: criticize the Israeli government now of Bibi, you immediately get
- 28:33Speaker 1: called an anti-Semite, which is exactly what Robert Kraft was saying.
- 28:39Speaker 1: What he said was, free Palestine, free Palestine. And then
- 28:43Speaker 1: he went on to say, hey, this is not a
- 28:47Speaker 1: reflection on Jewish people at all. This is a reflection
- 28:50Speaker 1: on what obviously McLemore believes is genocide, apartheid in Gaza.
- 28:56Speaker 1: To all my Jewish brothers and sisters, criticism of Israel,
- 29:00Speaker 1: criticism of apartheid, being against genocide. It is in no
- 29:04Speaker 1: way criticism of you.
- 29:05Speaker 2: So let me go.
- 29:06Speaker 3: Find the clip that we played the other day where
- 29:08Speaker 3: we bleeped him out, and then you can believe it.
- 29:10Speaker 3: I'll play that a little bit later in the show.
- 29:12Speaker 1: All right, so assuming it is.
- 29:14Speaker 2: Okay.
- 29:14Speaker 1: But he also said that. That's a direct quote.
- 29:18Speaker 2: You did say that. Right.
- 29:20Speaker 1: But the fact is that he has a history of
- 29:23Speaker 1: doing this in concerts. I would just like to know
- 29:27Speaker 1: if Ed Sheeran, who is a friend of his— Had
- 29:29Speaker 1: a conversation before they started this huge tour, North America
- 29:33Speaker 1: and South America. And he said, hey, you know, I'd
- 29:36Speaker 1: like you to just forget the political stuff.
- 29:39Speaker 3: He says he didn't know. Ed Sheeran has come out
- 29:42Speaker 3: and said he didn't know. And he said this was
- 29:44Speaker 3: not my decision to have him in there. He didn't
- 29:46Speaker 3: know he was going to say that.
- 29:48Speaker 2: Should he have known?
- 29:49Speaker 3: That's your point. That's a stronger point instead of calling
- 29:52Speaker 3: him a liar. I don't think this guy is lying.
- 29:55Speaker 3: I don't think Ed Sheeran's lying. I think he got
- 29:57Speaker 3: screwed by Macklemore because now there's negative publicity. This guy
- 30:02Speaker 3: never has any negative publicity about.
- 30:04Speaker 2: Him, ever. Oh, you're correct.
- 30:05Speaker 1: You're correct. And I and Nancy, we love his songs.
- 30:08Speaker 1: We love his videos. I just think the person who
- 30:11Speaker 1: is going to benefit most from this now is Macklemore.
- 30:14Speaker 2: He'll be able to go on his own tours.
- 30:16Speaker 1: And he'll be able to go to countries that are
- 30:18Speaker 1: very pro-Palestinian, including Ireland and Scotland and Spain and a
- 30:24Speaker 1: whole bunch of countries. So the best to Ed Sheeran,
- 30:28Speaker 1: obviously the best to everybody who is part of that
- 30:31Speaker 1: tour who is depending on that income that they're not
- 30:34Speaker 1: going to get, all the roadies, all the people we
- 30:36Speaker 1: don't even think about that have basically put away a
- 30:39Speaker 1: year of their life because this is.
- 30:40Speaker 2: How they earn their income. I think it's still going
- 30:42Speaker 2: to sell out. People will want to see Ed Sheeran.
- 30:45Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to continue.
- 30:47Speaker 2: Nobody comes for the opening act.
- 30:49Speaker 1: No, I know, but I don't know if Ed Sheeran
- 30:52Speaker 1: wants to be at a concert where all of a
- 30:54Speaker 1: sudden people start pulling out Palestinian flags in support of
- 30:58Speaker 1: Macklemore and the other artists.
- 30:59Speaker 3: I guarantee you he's not going to cancel this concert
- 31:02Speaker 3: because he'll get sued.
- 31:03Speaker 2: He'll get sued by all of the owners, the venue owners.
- 31:06Speaker 1: And I think Robert Kraft himself should never have inserted
- 31:09Speaker 1: himself as the spokesperson for Because he's like the worst
- 31:13Speaker 1: possible spokesperson you can have. I mean, here's the rubbing
- 31:17Speaker 1: tug guy. Remember at the Super Bowl, decided to go
- 31:20Speaker 1: get a kimchi cutie to give him a happy moment.
- 31:22Speaker 1: This is not the guy you want speaking on behalf
- 31:25Speaker 1: of all the owners and operators of the arenas in
- 31:28Speaker 1: America who said, we're going to cancel out on you, Ed,
- 31:31Speaker 1: but you got to let Macklemore go.