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"Is a Picture Worth 12 Words?" (Saturday August 30, 2025, Hour 2) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: We'll do it a lot, making mornings great again. We'll
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  do it first thing today on the Tunk Media Network
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  by Joe Thomas.
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  Speaker 2: I can go all right now, we'll do it long, Jewort.
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  Speaker 3: Said steal metem.
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  Speaker 4: You have a day at least for work, when the
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  sun comes up, drops a kid to school.
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  Speaker 5: Joe is everything, add.
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  Speaker 6: All the jasure out of needs.
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  Speaker 7: No one that Joe's as smiled.
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  Speaker 6: He only eggs.
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  Speaker 8: Joe, thank you for letting me be of service to
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  you this Saturday morning, Labor Day weekend is here for me.
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  Speaker 9: Beautiful liberty of my life with someone the four jobs.
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  Speaker 8: And so that's right, thank you, Sid Secretary Rubio, uh
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  there and I feel you, play, I feel you. But
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  that's the nature of those, you know, those families who
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  emigrate to this country legally. That's their mindset, right four
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  three four eight eight two four.
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  Speaker 6: To two one seven.
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  Speaker 8: We tell you the news, and especially on a Saturday morning,
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  because there's a whole bunch of stuff that got announced
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  Friday afternoon hoping that you wouldn't be paying attention. Oh,
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  I'm busy setting up the beach chairs that the few
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  remaining out you know, bars and restaurants, private clubs are
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  bigger than they were when I was out there, you know,
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  the Hampton's, You got a lot more time share things
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  going on and stuff like that, Airbnb, vrbo.
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  Speaker 6: It's all different than it was, and that's okay.
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  Speaker 8: This email came in after the opening segment of the
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  program talking about labor days then and now, Joe. I
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  don't know if it's necessarily a problem that we're not
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  all throwing a bunch of twenty five and thirty year
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  olds into cars after drinking six hours worth of jello,
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  shooting at the boardy barn and hoping that nothing bad
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  happens to them on their way back to whatever hotel
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  they've poured themselves into. I think the more targeted approach
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  of catered events has replaced all the restaurants that you see.
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  Speaker 6: I agree.
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  Speaker 8: I've been to the French Quarter and there's not nearly
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  as many restaurants on the French Quarter corners, but there's
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  an awful lot of catering that you can order up
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  and have it delivered right to you wherever you are,
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  so you don't have to go driving around. Well, Terry,
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  I appreciate the email, and I appreciate you listening to
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  long Island News Radio, where they've picked up our Saturday
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  feet of the show and our flagship here in Virginia
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  as well all of Twitter over the head of Black
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  Entertainment Television dropping big cash into the gubernatorial race. It's
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  about time somebody dropped some big cash into our gubernatorial
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  race here in Virginia.
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  Speaker 6: So we'll get at you our.
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  Speaker 8: First things so that we can then discuss the news
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  thoroughly after the facts. See that's the way we do
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  it here. And we make them into a little easily
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  digestible gummies so that you can go gummies. Dude, Chiech
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  and Chang have a new movie out, by the way,
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  Apropos of Nothing. But speaking of gummies, it makes it
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  a whole lot easier, I guess. Of course, then you
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  have the problem with all the kids who get into
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  their parents' gummies much more frequently than they get into
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  their parents' firearms. Yet we want the police being able
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  to come in and search your house if you own
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  a firearm. But I digress our first things this Saturday morning.
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  As the White House struck back Friday against Gavin Newsom's
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  attack against President Trump, saying the Democratic Party California governor
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  is more concerned about illegal imm grints and his own
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  constituents by claiming immigrations and Customs and Enforcements were officers
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  stationed at voting booths in twenty twenty six will be
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  there to suppress voter turnout. Department of Homeland Security Secretary
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  Christy Nome said, let's announce this Friday, maybe nobody will
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  hear it. On Saturday morning, there was an IT breach
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  at the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the American disaster response
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  agency that has been buffeted by deep cuts and slated
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  for elimination. Nomes said the hack threatened quote the entire
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  department and the nation as a whole, but.
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  Speaker 6: It's okay.
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  Speaker 8: Nothing sensitive was stolen and no American citizens were directly impacted,
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  she said. Curiously, two Virginia school districts on Friday sued
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  the Department of Education for withholding federal funding over their
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  policies to the Fairfax and Arlington schools. You've seen the
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  photographs outside of most recent Arlington school board meeting where
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  some supporter of the Democratic candidate for governor in Virginia
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  held up a sign comparing not letting trans boys into
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  girls' bathrooms is the same as not letting the Lieutenant
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  governor of Virginia use a whites only bathroom. That drove
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  Robert Johnson, billionaire co founder of Black Entertainment Television, to
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  say I've had alls, I can stands, I can't stands
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  no more, and dropped five hundred thousand dollars into Virginia
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  Lieutenant Governor wins Seals Sears gubernatorial campaign, which has been
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  gaining ground in recent polls, now sitting only five percentage
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  points behind Congresswoman Abigail Spanberger. At this point in twenty
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  twenty one, Terry mccauliffe was almost ten points ahead of
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  Glenn Youngkin and still a month removed from his famous
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  I don't think parents should have any say in what
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  their kids see in schools. And those are some of
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  our first things on this Saturday morning from the Talk
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  Meetia Network.
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  Speaker 12: I'm Andrew Saul, Commission of Self Security. I'm here to
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  warn you about telephone scammers pretending to be government employees.
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  Some of these scammers may say threatening things like you
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  will be arrested if you don't make payments or provide
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  personal information. Do not fall for these tricks. These calls
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  are not from US. Real solid security employees will never
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  friends and family.
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  Speaker 13: Hi everybody, I'm Jackhannah and it's always a boy. Growing
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  up on a farm in Tennessee, I've been fascinated with animals.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not only in awe of their.
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  Speaker 13: Beauty and kindness, but also their tireless work ethic. Just
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  look at the birds who gather supplies to build nests,
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  or Swiss foxes who work hard to provide for their young,
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  or penguins who travel up to five hundred miles to
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  secure food for their families, or bush babies whose impressive
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  jump allows them to navigate the trees and the wild
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  in search of fruit. This remarkable work ethic is shared
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  by our best friends, the canines. We know dogs are
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  wonderful pets at home, but because of their acute senses,
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  they also perform life saving work every day.
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  Speaker 6: Dogs keep us.
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  Speaker 13: Safe at airports. They comfort returning veterans, some of whom
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  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, he's starting with the woots.
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  Speaker 10: And now a speech.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to say that friendship is about heart,
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  art and brain.
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  Speaker 6: Who's with me?
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  Speaker 14: Good thing is he knows when he's buzzed, and.
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  Speaker 3: My brain is saying when it's time to go home, Somebody.
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  Speaker 6: Call me a ride.
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  Speaker 15: Love that guy, Me too, know your buzzed warning signs,
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  call for a ride when it's time to go home.
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  Buzz driving is drunk driving.
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  Speaker 16: Did you know that more than half our household energy
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  costs go to heating and cooling Energy efficiency isn't just
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  good for the environment, it means lower utility bills too.
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  One way to reduce your energy waste is a home
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  That's energysavers dot gov. You'll learn to look for air
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  leaks around windows and doors, check ducks for holes, and
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  improve your insulation. Another time to cut energy costs when
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  you shop for a new appliance, look for the energy
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  Star logo and read the energy guide label. And there
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  are day to day things you can do. Lower your
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  thermostat and winter and raise it in the summer, close
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  filters clean. For more tips on saving money by reducing
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  your energy waste, check out FTC dot gov slash green,
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  a tip from the Federal Trade Commission, the nation's consumer
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  protection agency.
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  Speaker 4: As a family member or friend, you may be the
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  first to notice when a veteran you love has been
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  Speaker 11: In your life.
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  Speaker 4: Treatment works, recovery is possible.
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  Speaker 1: The first thing today by Joe Thomas on the Tunk
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  Media Network, Right.
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  Speaker 6: Green New Deal?
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  Speaker 8: How many years ago was this? This is a treatise
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  of the Green New Deal. Cut your power, make you
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  more reliant on things that need power, and then tell
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  you can't have any your house because that's not green.
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  But you but you need everything that the data centers have.
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  Oh no, we must give all the power to the
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  data centers. And I am not the person who vilifies
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  the data centers. You know, faster than you can say,
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  Shoreham watching with zeal the fact that we finally removed
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  our heads from our collective electric arses and managed to
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  find a way, and we're building new thanks to President
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  Trump's administration taking the onus off of building new electric
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  power plants. But so much of this stuff is still
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  being done with FIAT with executive order. They can just
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  be overturned if the next president is not of the
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  same mind.
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  Speaker 6: And so you know, we need to do this right.
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  Speaker 8: I was talking to a friend who's interested that there
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  was an expansion of a gas fired electric plant right
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  here in central Virginia. Virginia is also leading the way
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  in these small modular nuclear reactors. Wouldn't there be irony
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  if we put a small modul or nuclear reactor company
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  in Shoreham?
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  Speaker 6: Don't tell anyone.
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  Speaker 8: Lower would your Keyspan electric bills be these days?
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  Speaker 6: Is it still key Span as kan ed?
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  Speaker 8: I know it's kant in the city, still in con
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  being the operative word. But the point is that they
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  and I really feel like this was intentional. They tell
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  you that you using electricity as bad. They make you
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  think things like electric vehicles and your computers don't actually
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  use electricity. I don't know how they managed to pull
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  this act off, probably first by dumbing down the standards
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  in our public schools, but they are well No, I'm
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  more talking about burning things, not the electricity in your battery.
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  That's just magic. Your prius runs on unicornteers. But I
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  was reading about the boom now in applications across the
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  Red States to build new electric generation facilities, and many
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  of them had recently closed. California is having a horrible
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  time with closed electric generation plants, and now they're going
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  to go back to rolling brownouts and the powers that be.
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  I mean, tell me, if you've heard this joke before,
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  they'll say, well, the brownouts are really your fault.
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  Speaker 6: When it's not.
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  Speaker 8: They say, well, the data centers in Virginia are going
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  to drive up the cost of electric And I asked
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  the data center people, I said, why is that? Why
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  are you putting such a load on a grid without
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  helping us fluff it up a little bit. They're like, no,
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  we don't want to do that at all. We'd be
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  happy putting our own electric generator on our facility and
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  then leaving your whole grid thing alone. Seems more secure anyway.
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  And that was one of their points, is that the
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  data centers, amongst all these things, more about catering food trucks.
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  Since we were talking about Labor Day weekend. I drive
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  a food truck Joe here in Virginia, and these weekends
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  I've never been busier. Half my business is just driving
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  my food truck to an event, parking it, and boom.
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  I'm the caterer. People don't care about white linen anymore,
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  and servers in tuxedos. They'd rather walk up to my truck,
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  get something off of my menu, and then go back
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  to the wedding reception that they're hanging out in a
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  lot of people, especially in the twenty to thirty age,
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  think this is cooler than having waiters come by and
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  stand there wait for you to tell them whether you
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  want the rubber chicken or the rubber steak.
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  Speaker 6: Well, and it's to be fair, you know. And this all.
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  Speaker 8: Began because I was bemoaning the just back from the
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  French Quarter. And so many of the great restaurants of
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  the French Quarter are now banks or nail salons or
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  historical landmarks untouched by human hands now because the just
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  the marketplace in sit down restaurants has luckily for many
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  waned because they couldn't bring their business back anyway, because
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  everyone was so sufficiently scared of the Wu flu that
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  they didn't want to go back out in front. And
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  the ones who did said, you ever see that movie
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  with Joe PESHI was they say about getting paid? You
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  got it, And you can't charge for a cheeseburger to
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  pay back the cost of getting serving staff and such
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  back into the kitchens.
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  Speaker 6: There are those.
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  Speaker 8: Who hire let's just say, non citizens, and they get
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  in trouble and they say, but I have no choice.
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  Speaker 6: We always have a choice.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, if the customer doesn't want what you're selling anymore,
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  and it's because it costs too much. I mean, I
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  was just reading a piece and I think it's newsday
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  all Long Island's population is aging and growing poorer. Well,
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  and it's not even that they're growing poorer, it's just
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  the poverty line keeps rising. I'm famous for saying that
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  we have four times as many poor people now as
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  we did at the beginning of the War on poverty.
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  He was a Andrew Langer from Seapack this week. I
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  was saying, it wasn't a war on poverty, it was
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  a war on poor people.
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  Speaker 6: So what do you do?
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  Speaker 8: How do you get the right answers put out there? Well,
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  you do what I do. You don't care. You speak
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  the truth without compunction, and if something comes along that
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  counter mans the truth that you had seen and the analysis,
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  you who doesn't honestly say hey, i've seen something new.
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  But unfortunately these scientists who are married to the climate cult,
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  they can't do anything about it because they've cashed the paycheck.
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  Once you've cashed the paycheck, they own you. And I
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  don't think any whistle blow or protection but.
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  Speaker 6: What do you do? How do you how do you.
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  Speaker 8: Marshal the energy and the power to push back, especially
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  in a place like New York and New York is
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  such a great example Virginia as well, and that may
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  be I don't know who else has the Saturday Show.
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  Speaker 6: I know New York in Long Island and.
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  Speaker 8: Virginia so many red counties. And this is part and
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  parcel of the redistricting that all these states are trying
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  to do. And all of a sudden, Gavin Newsom has
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  stopped getting so chesty about his redistricting because California, like
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  a lot of other states, has a lot of red counties.
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  And you start trying to stretch your districts into all
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  these different places, and you start to run into more
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  and more red counties, it becomes a demographic problem. But
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  I'm going to visit with the head of the Empire Center.
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  Caught up with him at the State Policy Network. He
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  leads the New York Conservative Thought along with folks like
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  Speaker 8: So writing my next column for the Daily Signal and
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  begin with the premise and I wanted to write about
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  struck me the phrase you've heard, the phrase A picture
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  tells a thousand words, And that's where I want to
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  because Terry mccaulliffe, when he immolated his gubernatorial campaign, the
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  political steps on of Bill and Hillary as they bask
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  in some secluded yard in the Hampton's, because I know
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  they ain't going out on the Can you imagine if
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  Bill Clinton and his defibrillator game? Do we know if
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  it was Bill's defibrillator or I mean, I know Hillary
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  and technology. I mean, are we sure it's a defibrillator
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  and not you know, some sort.
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  Speaker 6: Of eraser for hard drives. I mean, it looked like.
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  Speaker 8: A defibrillator coming off the airplane. But Bill and Hillary
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  and the Hampton's probably hanging with Huma and Alex Soros
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  frolicking in a pool somewhere. They're not going down to
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  the public beach. And if you see him, give me
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  a call. But Terry mccaulliffe, their political god son, well
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  on his way and the end of August twenty twenty
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  one to being re elected and as a rarity in
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  Virginia politics, you can't run twice, but you can't run consecutively.
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  But you can run as much as you want for governor.
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  You just have to leave after one term. So he
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  was running to come back and be governor again, and
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  he was leading in all.
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  Speaker 6: The polls.
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  Speaker 8: Just you know, actually buy more than Abigail Spanburger is
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  currently leading in the polls. Mccaulliff was up by ten
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  points in most of the same polls that only have
• 30:41
  Abigail Spanburger up by a tepid four or five percent,
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  you know, and with small margins like that, they're within
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  the margin of era anyway. But the picture in this
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  case because Terry's statement at the end of September of
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  twenty twenty one was famously I don't believe parents should
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  have any right to say have any say in what
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  schools teach their kids. And Glenn Youngin won handily. It
• 31:15
  was a fifteen point swing. So those twelve words cost
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  Terry mccaulliffe fifteen points and the election. And given that
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  five hundred thousand one of wins, some seers the current
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  governor campaign is struggling with money. Mostly people hadn't been
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  contributing because some early polls said, oh, she's down by
• 31:40
  twenty twenty five points. And this is where the push
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  polling comes in, because if you push poll and you
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  get the right answers, and you make it look like
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  it's a feediccomplete that the Democrats going to win easily,
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  then you will keep people from giving money to a loser.
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  What I give money to somebody who's guaranteed to lose.
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  He's down by twenty points New Jersey. Didn't they say
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  that four years ago and it only wound up being
• 32:10
  two percentage points.
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  Speaker 6: Wow.
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  Speaker 8: So this sign that has all of a sudden created
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  instant fundraising for Winsome Seeries. The head of Black Entertainment
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  Television television network, Robert Johnson, just cut a check for
• 32:29
  five hundred thousand dollars to the Sears campaign. Thus, my
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  column that I'm writing for the Daily Signal, the picture
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  being worth five hundred thousand words.
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  Speaker 6: The picture, if you've not seen.
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  Speaker 8: It, says, hey, winsome, if trans can't share your bathroom,
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  then Blacks can't share my water fountain. And the best
• 32:59
  part of it all is the elderly woman who's holding
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  the sign was probably around when Winsome Seers would not
• 33:06
  have been allowed to drink at her water fountain. Of course,
• 33:09
  winsome seers in that old but you know the elderly
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  activist who is there. And this goes back to our
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  piece we just did with Kristin Eastlick and Arabella Advisors.
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  The money to put these people in place and get
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  the buses and the pallets of water and whatever else
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  they need. We've even seen palettes of bricks being dropped off.
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  The money for all of that is raised through the
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  Arabella Advisors. We're just talking with Kristin and it's going
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  to become more difficult because we just learned that Bill
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  Gates has pulled out of all the activities.
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  Speaker 6: But we're watching this race tight, not.
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  Speaker 8: Just even earlier than it did four years ago, and
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  it's because people are on full display. And I've said
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  this so many times. Let the left be the left.
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  Don't even ignore them. As a matter of fact, show
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  them to all of your friends. Because we live in
• 34:27
  a world where seeing something is going to immediately cause
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  some percentage of the population to covet it. So we
• 34:40
  hide things that we don't want people to know about
• 34:45
  so that they don't fall in love with that. Instead
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  of us not how I roll here, I'll put it
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  all out on the floor for you. The the issue
• 35:00
  is this photograph has caused millions of dollars, not just
• 35:05
  Johnson's five hundred thousand, to start pouring into the Seers
• 35:09
  campaign because I believe this photograph is going to be
• 35:12
  worth more than the twelve words Terry mccauliff spoke to
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  immolate his career now, Abigail Spanburger said in a statement
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  after she was alerted to the content of the message
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  a spokesperson on her social media sent to a local
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  TV station. Abigail condemns this repulsive display, its races, abhorrent
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  and unacceptable. Well the third person, and this is interesting.
• 35:50
  Channel eight News in Richmond reported it that span Berger responded, well,
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  unless she's one of these folks with the psychological problem
• 36:00
  where they have to refer to themselves than the third person,
• 36:03
  that's not her writing that she probably staffed it out
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  to her writers and said, hey, give me a statement
• 36:16
  on this. Don't make it too harsh, because I'm wanting
• 36:19
  that lady's got a lot of friends and I don't
• 36:22
  want to lose her vote. But the message there is
• 36:31
  the same. They're making these moral equivalencies to racism again.
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  And what I really think, the quiet part, not out loud,
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  has been.
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  Speaker 6: Is that.
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  Speaker 8: We already have moved on from these kind of racial tropes,
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  and they're still clinging to them. And we're supposed to
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  be the ones that are the ardent racists and the
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  the prison camps for Japanese citizens, slavery in general.
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  Speaker 12: That.
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  Speaker 8: They go around and say, oh, the conservative fascist on
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  Speaker 6: And Bobby the murderer.
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  is Janis writes in, So that's why the media is
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  your problem.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, how do you.
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  Speaker 8: Get they get away with it because people let them
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  get away with it because they've got all the news
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  desks save conservative talk radio, they have all the news
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  desks going, we need to have access and if we don't,
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  if we report this, we're not going to have access. Oh,
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  stop selling yourself out. You can still report the story
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  without being in the room. And this is one of
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  the things I always and people love to cover the
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  President's you know, White House correspondence dinner, and I just
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  find it just creepy. It's like, you mean, a room
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  Speaker 6: Talk about sellouts.
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  Speaker 8: They're all like, oh yeah, all glad handing and breaking
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  bread and talking with the people that are supposed to
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  of New York. Just like Virginia, you've got the counties
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  around Albany which, believe it or not, you know, like
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  Rensselaer barely for Harris.
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  Speaker 6: The same thing. You know, you get down here, even Richmond.
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  Speaker 8: County, which most of you refer to as Staten Island,
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  some of you refer to as Static Island or the landfill.
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  You know, sixty five thirty five for Trump. Suffolk County
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  didn't even turn out that big for Trump. It was,
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  it was a fifty five forty five. But all these counties,
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  Chautauqua and Alleghany and Steuben, You've got down Delaware County,
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  Orange County, Putnam County.
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  Speaker 6: The whole state of New York is red.
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  Speaker 8: This is why, all of a sudden, Gavin Newsom has
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  dropped the whole idea of redistricting, because California is the
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  same way you start stretching these districts out, you're getting
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  more Republicans in them. We talked last week about how
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  Speaker 6: He was there, he says, call.
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  Speaker 11: Right, So, I think many of these places you mentioned
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  a definitely conservative. I would say New York City is
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  the big exceptions, as is almost everywhere. Urban centers are
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  more blue. Outside of urban centers you get more red.
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  But regardless of the color, I think we have the
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  right approach. We're talking to people about common sense. So
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  one of the way is one of the issues, or
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  one of the tactics to talk to people is rather
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  than approaching issues from that partisan point of view, what
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  we do is we just the partisanship and we say, okay,
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  was enacted in twenty ninety and now the chickens are
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  Your energy price are getting higher. They're higher than in
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  neighboring states, they're higher than in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and
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  it's not going to stop. And in fact, here are
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  think it's just means more or less control of government,
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  government control over power industry. We think it's wrong. But
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  Speaker 6: Oh sure?
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