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Ferrari’s F80 Allocation Drama: A $4M Gamble in 2025 · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  We have a lot of fun with it So anyways, I'm wearing upper today's episode
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  the first one of 2025 We are good.
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  We're gonna I guess a revisit.
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  We're gonna talk about the f80 again But not just F80, we're going to
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  talk about, you know, all these, uh, I guess you'd say hypercars or
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  whatnot that are out there right now.
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  And the reason I want to bring up the F80 though is because it's become, it's
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  rather interesting what's going on in the market with the F80, the allocations.
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  They haven't started building them yet.
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  They may be getting in the process of starting, but they
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  haven't started building them yet.
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  But, As all of you know, I'm sure many of you know, are aware, you know,
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  Ferrari's got a very selective process in regards to doling out allocations for
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  build slots, so to get your hands on it.
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  So you gotta be a big ol VIP customer, uh, to get yourself an allocation of these
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  halo cars, I guess you could call them, that they put out every 10 years roughly.
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  So, I will say this, I just watched this morning, and I, check it out,
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  it's really good, you know, Mr.
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  Bolin on Vindwiki, uh, did a really good, uh, overview in regards to about how
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  you get on these VIP lists and go about doing it, because it kind of changes,
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  you know, from time to time in regards to what you need to do and a lot of it
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  used to be about, you know, obviously you got to have a lot of Ferraris.
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  Uh, they used to kind of almost base it on, hey, all right, do you have, you
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  know, the, I don't know what you'd want to call it, the Holy Five, um, you know,
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  288, F40, F50, Enzo, uh, LaFerrari.
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  So, um, you know, and now obviously the F80 is coming into play.
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  So, You know, you used to have to have that.
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  Now it's kind of more, as he's stating, and as I'm aware of, is the
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  fact is, you know, now it's kind of more biased towards the fact is, you
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  know, what are you doing option wise?
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  You know, are you dropping the 200, 000 in just options on a car?
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  So, you're talking, you got your base price of 300, 000, 400, 000,
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  500, 000 put into the car, and then you're dropping another 200, 000.
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  Basically half the price of the car on options, but you know, it's, you know, I
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  don't know if they're looking for loyalty or whatnot, but then you also have the
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  avenues if you run the challenge series, there's all these different avenues to
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  go about doing it, but the one thing for sure, it will cost you a lot of money.
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  to be on that.
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  So you have to have some very, very deep pockets, a trust fund, whatever, you know,
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  gotta be one of those, you know, you hit the sperm lottery, uh, and you know, your
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  parents, grandparents, whoever, you know, left you a lot of money, what have you.
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  Um, you know, so then you could be in that position.
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  So, but anyways, hey, God bless you if you are, cause hey, you
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  know, it's a very privileged thing and you're among the 1 percent of
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  the 1%, you know, what have you.
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  So, but the reason I want to talk about and revisit this F80
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  and talk about some more, so.
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  We're not going to discuss in regards to, hey, what it is, we already did that,
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  but what we're going to talk about in regards to, it kind of, it's going to
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  reflect kind of back to that, I would say the Holy Trinity, you know, he had
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  the, uh, he had the LaFerrari, the 918 and the P1, the McLaren P1, Porsche 918,
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  obviously in the Ferrari, LaFerrari.
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  So, Then, you know, it was kind of, you know, they were all very similar in
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  regards to Powertrain, what have you.
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  You know, obviously there's some variation to them and everything along those lines.
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  So, but, you know, again, there's, there's, I don't want to say
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  significant, but there's enough difference between the two.
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  And obviously it's going to depend on who you talk to, oh, one prefers the other.
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  But it almost seems to be the consensus that, you know, You know, just
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  squeaking, eking out on top is the P1.
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  Um, that seems to be the consensus.
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  Now, I love what McLaren's doing and they're getting a lot better at it,
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  but you know, their quality issues and everything like that were kind of, you
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  know, as they've been labeled McCarron's.
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  Um, they can be a little testy, I guess you could say.
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  So.
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  But anyways, so they came out with those and they're all very similar.
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  Now, what you have, as everyone's probably well aware of, the
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  F80 has a six cylinder motor.
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  So, they're basically trying to copy what the 499 is, their, uh, WEC car.
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  So, they wanted to go that route, kind of, you know, hey, they spent all this
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  money on that technology, put it in there, hey, let's just put it in the road car.
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  It's got a ton of horsepower.
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  It's fast.
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  It's good to handle.
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  It's going to be a great car.
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  But, These cars, a Ferrari, should be, you know, be 12.
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  Maybe even a twin turbo V8.
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  Okay, let's go back, you know, to that 40, 288.
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  You're even going to drop, man, a V6, a six cylinder motor in this thing.
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  So, what's happening is, you know, out of all the, the cars, you got, what
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  is it, 799 they're going to build.
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  And, obviously, you got to be that special person to get on,
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  you know, get the allocation.
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  You, hey, you get that.
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  You know, get you got that, you got that package, whatever, you know,
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  uh, got it to you in the mail.
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  I'm sure you knew ahead of time that you're probably going to be receiving
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  it, but you know, you got that moment in regards to, Hey, alright, it's official.
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  I have an allocation.
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  But now just because you get sent it doesn't mean you have to take it.
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  But here's the problem.
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  If you turn it down, you don't take it.
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  How does that affect you for the next one that comes out in 10 years?
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  Did they go, you know, build it because they will.
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  And by that point, it's going to be all electric.
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  So, I mean, I don't know my opinion, do you really want it?
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  But anyways, so that's where that tricky fine line comes into.
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  I mean, you really can't turn it down, but the problem is, is you have, you
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  know, a lot of people out there and I, I have a couple of clients that it's
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  that position, they have allocations.
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  You know, and they're sitting on it because they're kind of like, they're
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  not sure they want to get it because they actually want to drive the car and see
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  what happens, I guess, in the market.
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  Cause here's the other thing that's going on with this car.
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  Now, Back in the day, with your other previous cars, they were priced, I guess
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  you want to say, all within reason.
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  You know, yeah, the LaFerrari was up there, it was 1.
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  8, like, it's under 2 million bucks.
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  You know, it came out of the factory, but as soon as it hit the
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  market, got out there, it basically doubled in value and whatnot.
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  So, hey, yeah, I think, but, you know, obviously Ferrari's putting these
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  restrictions on, you know, reselling it.
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  So, hey, you can't do it for two years, it's not, because again, it
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  will hurt your status with Ferrari.
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  And they will find out.
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  No matter how you get that car, whatever you do, they will find out.
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  Alright, so they're like Interpol, basically.
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  They'll figure it out.
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  The FBI, CIA, they'll get this stuff figured out and know what
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  you're doing with your cars.
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  Trust me, they watch that stuff like nobody's business.
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  Their business, I guess you could say.
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  So anyways, what they're running into is, out of the 799 allocations that
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  got sent out, There's still 20 percent of them that have not, I guess, that's
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  obviously spoken for, haven't been, the option to do it has not been taken up.
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  So, what is that out of 799?
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  Now this is still rough, obviously it's going to change on a daily, weekly basis.
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  So, um, let me bust out my calculator here.
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  So you got 799 times 20%.
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  That's almost 160 cars.
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  Just a smidge under.
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  So, it's probably worth saying it's 150 cars right now.
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  They have 150 allocations that no one is taking that option up on because
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  of the fact is they're not sure.
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  But here's the other thing that's kind of, I guess you would say, maybe making
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  people a little hesitant in regards to it.
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  You know, somebody's going to play that long game.
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  Oh, it'll go up in value.
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  Why not?
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  You're going to be over 4 million, if not close to 5 million on that car.
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  Sticker!
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  Sticker.
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  Buying that car.
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  Now, Ferrari, I'm not saying this is what they're doing.
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  I'm not saying this is what is happening.
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  But, You know, they see what happens in the market.
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  They see what happened in the previous thing with these cars.
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  That people get them, what not.
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  They have them for a year or two.
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  And then, all of a sudden, BAM!
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  They're doubling, tripling their money.
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  You know, turn around and just sell it then, because then they're out
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  of that, hey, they can do whatever they want, you're out of, you
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  know, you're out of that penalty window, I guess you could say.
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  So, Ferrari's mindset is, well, we feel that out in the secondary market, these
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  things are going to be 5 million bucks.
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  So, let's just charge that, retail wise.
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  I would love to know what their gross profit is on those cards.
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  It's got to be obscene.
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  I'm sure it's, you know, seven figures of some sort.
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  But it's an interesting market move for them in regards to what
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  they're charging for that car.
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  Now, again, obviously they've sold quite a few of them.
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  They've sold, you know, over, uh, 600 of them.
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  Obviously, people have taken up doing it.
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  But, again, are those your hardcore people?
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  I don't know.
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  And, again, as people understand, you know, I have to buy it.
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  It's part of this game I gotta play with Ferrari to be a VIP still to
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  get, you know, other allocations.
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  Because, as we all know, uh, As of now, you know, some
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  years ago, hey, that was it.
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  They just had these halo cars that would come out, and that's it.
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  Yeah, they had the other cars that you could drive, the
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  roads, you know, road cars.
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  They were awesome.
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  They come out with their special editions, everything like
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  that, and limited production quantities, everything like that.
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  So, getting your hands on those.
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  I see like, uh, you know, more recent arguments, say, 812 TDF, 812 Comp.
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  Um, those are, but now all of a sudden you have the IKONAS series.
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  Now, obviously, some of those you cannot get them registered in the
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  United States, but you know, where there's a will, there's a way.
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  There's always a way to work things around, show and display, what have you.
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  So, but, you know, you had your SP1, SP2, SP3.
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  I'm sure there'll probably be an SP4 somewhere there, and
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  just kind of as a side note.
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  That's where they need to come and do a factory manual because
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  this has actually been coming up in a lot of discussions and stuff.
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  If you listen out there on podcasts, YouTube or anything like that,
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  people are really starting to push.
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  Why are you not just building another factory manual?
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  Look what, look what the market's doing in regards to prices on
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  cars that are factory manuals.
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  Just look at, you know, 360s not so much, but look at F430s
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  in regards to a factory manual.
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  Compared to the F1 tranny and compared to a six speed swap car.
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  I mean, just look at what's the value wise is there.
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  But anyways, back to what we're talking about.
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  So anyways, so you look at what, you know, they're doing with the F80.
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  Now look at McLaren dropped the W1.
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  Now people are kind of like, wow, it really doesn't look much different.
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  You know, it's got the center look to it.
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  You know, I mean, it's really not out to kind of like how the P1 was,
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  but it's got a twin turbo V8 in it.
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  Again, power, what have you.
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  And it's all about perspective.
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  So I got V8, you know, it's, it's a little six cylinder in my car.
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  Woo hoo.
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  You know, I don't care how much power you're putting out there.
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  I mean, You know, Ford did well with the GT, you know, their last one, they had
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  the EcoBoost, they did the six cylinder in it, and people, when it first, you know,
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  was coming out, they announced it, people were like, oh my god, six, they took a
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  lot of shit for it, I will say that, but, the car did well, and people still doubled
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  their money in regards to doing it.
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  Now, Ford tried to do the same thing in regards to, hey, you can't
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  resell it, do all that stuff, they tried to do it, but they lost.
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  We have our friend, well, I say friend, but, Mr.
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  John Cena, you know, kind of, uh, had his and he's like, F you, you can't
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  tell me what I can do with this car because he got it and basically I think
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  it was within a couple of months to turn around, so when you were supposed
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  to like, I know it was a year, two years, I can't remember what it was.
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  You all know.
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  So, but anyways, he then went to court and everything like that, but he won.
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  There's nothing they could do.
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  It's like, look, I own this car.
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  How can you take dictate what I can do with this car if I own it?
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  You know, it'd be, I guess it'd be one thing if you leased it, what have
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  you like that kind of stuff, or, Hey, maybe your finances do for credit.
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  I don't know, but you know, that's what always baffled me is
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  how a manufacturer can dictate.
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  After the fact you buy and own this car I mean and that's and it
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  has you know I get with brand and stuff like that and protecting your
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  brand and that kind of stuff But that's a whole different ballgame.
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  That's a whole different argument in regards to what's doing it.
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  I don't get I buy a car I want to do it.
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  It's like hey if I went up, you know, I have my f 150 But then I you know,
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  I I bought it then three slater I turn around and sold it and I saw where I
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  paid for me a couple bucks or maybe I lose a couple dollars I don't know I
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  think Ford ain't going to come after you.
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  I mean, so again, it's kind of, it's, I don't know, it's a little bit odd,
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  but anyways, back to our discussion.
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  What's going on with F80s is interesting because there's actually, is it
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  in Germany, I think it's Germany, there's a dealer who's advertising an
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  allocation spot for sale, just the spot.
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  This doesn't include the car.
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  For a little over 6.
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  3 million dollars they're trying to sell the allocation for.
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  Not the car, so you got the car's price on that as well.
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  So you're going to be over 10 million dollars for an F80.
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  Ain't going to happen.
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  You know, so I, someone's reading for the moving stars and again, hey,
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  someone's just throwing something against the wall seeing what sticks.
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  But, It's baffling.
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  It's absolutely baffling.
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  And this has been going around so and I'm sure this person has been
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  getting tons of calls and whatnot.
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  They're like, I don't care what you think, someone will end up paying it.
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  And again, it's that thing.
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  You can ask whatever you want, but what's someone willing to pay?
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  And here's the thing, if you put something out there, You know, depending on what
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  it is, but you put something out there for sale, you're going to have an asking
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  price and you're always going to set it high and say, look, all right, I
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  know I'm not going to get this, but I'm gonna start here because I know
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  someone's going to come in and offer me X.
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  I'm going to come back at Y and we'll settle at Z.
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  Possibly that's what he's doing, but if he sticks to his guns,
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  he ain't never going to get 6.
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  3 over it, someone's going to make it, especially when there's
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  20 allocations, I mean over 150 allocations still sitting out there,
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  20 percent of them are still available.
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  You know, and again, that's a really tricky road to go when you take over
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  an allocation spot like that, because then you kind of got to get, I don't
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  want to say shady, you know, there's things to do where you have to set
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  up a, You know, you set up a joint LLC with the person that has the
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  allocation, all that kind of stuff.
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  And then after a year or two, when it's all good, they sell you the
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  LLC, they buy out for a dollar.
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  It's just, there's all these, there's a bunch of different ways
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  to go about getting around it.
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  But.
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  I've never been a fan of it.
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  I don't like to partake in them.
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  I just, I'm not comfortable doing that.
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  I just, I just don't like it.
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  Other people don't care.
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  Well, and not so much dealers.
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  Well, you're gonna have some shady dealers do it, but you know, other, you know,
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  brokers out there, they don't give a shit.
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  They want to make their money.
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  As soon as they get their check, they're out the door.
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  They don't care.
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  They'll never revisit that subject again, and that person tries to
• 16:59
  call and say it went sideways.
• 17:01
  No more problem.
• 17:02
  You know, is, hey, your lawyer should have looked into it more, right?
• 17:05
  You know, so.
• 17:06
  Anyways, it's just not something I like to delve into.
• 17:09
  So it's going to be curious to see here how much longer it takes.
• 17:14
  If, you know, and what would be interesting is if there's still
• 17:16
  allocations that are sitting out there once the first deliveries start
• 17:21
  happening of the F80, which I'm going to assume should be mid this year.
• 17:25
  end of this year, you know, come summer, late summer, fall maybe, I think it is.
• 17:29
  Now, I could be wrong, might be a little sooner, but who knows.
• 17:32
  All of a sudden, you're going to see it out there, someone's
• 17:33
  going to have video on it.
• 17:34
  Hey, first delivery, I got my F80.
• 17:36
  It's a spectacular car.
• 17:38
  It's going to have unbelievable performance.
• 17:40
  It's going to drive phenomenally.
• 17:41
  I mean, it's got so much tech, everything, you know, it's going to be a great car.
• 17:46
  But here's the thing is, you know, again, it's that perception.
• 17:49
  When you have your true enthusiast, Don't understand.
• 17:52
  That's like with the Ford GT.
• 17:53
  You know what?
• 17:54
  Hey, it's still gotta go.
• 17:55
  Crap load of horsepower, same thing with the F80.
• 17:58
  It's got over a thousand horsepower.
• 18:00
  So I mean, look, the car is not going to be slow.
• 18:02
  It's going to be fun to drive.
• 18:03
  It's kind of a bigger car, but it's going to be a lot of fun to drive this car.
• 18:08
  It's going to be spectacular.
• 18:10
  So you can have your things.
• 18:11
  Well, I don't care.
• 18:11
  You know, I'm going to, they're just going to sit out and hold it
• 18:13
  because then they're going to line it up with all their other Ferraris.
• 18:15
  They got a nice little, you know, display there row going on.
• 18:18
  They're going to start with their 288 and all the way down to their new F80.
• 18:22
  Again, these people got the money.
• 18:24
  So to them, It's no big deal.
• 18:26
  It's like, Oh, four million.
• 18:27
  Oh, I make that in a week.
• 18:28
  You know, that kind of stupid ass shit, you know, but again, it's going to be
• 18:32
  interesting to see what happens in regards to that car once it starts hitting the
• 18:37
  ground and gets delivered to customers, you know, normally with these, you
• 18:40
  know, these halo cars, they're sold out, you know, the allocations get there,
• 18:44
  they're, you know, they have no issue.
• 18:46
  The manufacturers, like they don't even bat an eye.
• 18:49
  They'll, they'll get herself.
• 18:51
  I'm curious what's going on possibly internally with Ferrari.
• 18:54
  I'm sure you have the people.
• 18:55
  Oh, don't worry about it You know, give us some more time.
• 18:57
  They'll all get taken care of We'll get it situated if for whatever reason the person
• 19:02
  who got the allocation decides that they don't want it Which would be baffling if
• 19:07
  they did because that really just screws up their status and how Ferrari's looking
• 19:11
  at them VIP wise But for whatever reason, someone says, no, there will be someone
• 19:16
  else that will step up and take it.
• 19:17
  You know, it's, it's a given.
• 19:19
  There's no doubt about that.
• 19:21
  I mean, it's just, it's a, it'll just happen.
• 19:24
  So, but it'll be interesting to see what comes about playing that.
• 19:26
  Cause obviously we know what the W1 is, but then, you know, Porsche
• 19:30
  don't know what they're doing.
• 19:31
  They have that mission X concept, but that's all electric.
• 19:33
  So, I mean, that's, that's night and day.
• 19:35
  I mean, that's when you're, you're, you're talking two totally
• 19:37
  different cards, in my opinion.
• 19:39
  Yeah, I see they're in the place in this world.
• 19:41
  Yes, there's the thing for electric cars to an extent, but the technology,
• 19:46
  everything that's involved in these cars and not just electric
• 19:48
  cars, but what's coming out.
• 19:50
  It's going to be interesting, you know, in the used car market side of stuff because
• 19:54
  you're not going to be able to fix them.
• 19:56
  I mean, it's just and it's going to be cost prohibitive to want to do it because
• 20:00
  it's just going to be unbelievable.
• 20:01
  I mean, you can't work on them yourself.
• 20:04
  There's no way.
• 20:04
  I mean, uh, I don't even think you can change a light bulb in or
• 20:08
  something or a headlight or anything like that, at least with these older
• 20:10
  cars from the 80s, 90s, early 2000s.
• 20:13
  Like, you can work on them to some extent, I guess you could say, and it depends
• 20:17
  on your means and your wherewithal.
• 20:19
  But you know, there's a lot of things you can do yourself.
• 20:20
  So, hey, you can offset stuff and hey, you get that pride.
• 20:23
  Hey, I worked out of myself, but you know, it's These newer stuff, you
• 20:26
  ain't touching that thing yourself.
• 20:27
  There's just no way.
• 20:28
  It ain't gonna happen.
• 20:29
  It's gonna be an interesting year in 2025 to see what happens with these F80s.
• 20:32
  Because again, you know, and listen, McCarron's got W1 and I mean, you
• 20:35
  have all these other halo cars.
• 20:36
  You know, Aston Martin's got, you know, the, you know, their
• 20:38
  Valkyrie, their Valhalla's.
• 20:40
  When you're starting to get in that 4 million price, I mean,
• 20:43
  you're Bugatti price range and stuff like that coming out.
• 20:45
  I mean, so you're definitely up there with some very high profile cars.
• 20:50
  You're not saying that Ferrari's not high profile, but you know, your pool
• 20:53
  of cars, I guess you could say choice wise, it's pretty big in actuality.
• 20:58
  If you look at today, this today, what's going on out in that car market.
• 21:01
  Marketplace in that area at that level.
• 21:04
  So I mean you're not limited to hey, there's only a couple choices of cars
• 21:08
  But at that level, I mean you have a lot of choices out there in regards to
• 21:11
  what you can spend your money on I get I should say what you want to spend your
• 21:15
  millions of dollars on because all those cars are Multi million dollar cars now.
• 21:19
  I want to throw this out there because here's what stats right now but if
• 21:22
  you're buying a car from Foreman's and Yeah, it's gonna be after I went
• 21:27
  you're gonna be over 200 grand on it But the, the C8, Corvette C8 ZR1
• 21:33
  should be, what, this fall I believe they're going to start deliveries on it.
• 21:36
  Performance, everything like that be unbelievable.
• 21:38
  Now that's going to be a car, I'm just curious to see what
• 21:40
  they're going to do with that.
• 21:41
  In regards to, are they going to, you know, try and stranglehold owners
• 21:46
  that they can't resell, what have you.
• 21:47
  I don't know, I know, you know, Chevy was trying to do that.
• 21:51
  Originally trying to but again, you know, how can you dictate to
• 21:54
  someone what you do with the car?
• 21:56
  Contracts or not you sign everything.
• 21:57
  I don't know.
• 21:58
  It just seems baffling to me, but You have an unbelievable performance
• 22:02
  card for 200 grand, around 200 grand.
• 22:05
  Now, my guess, someone's going to get that.
• 22:08
  You're going to be looking at half a million bucks, 400 grand for those on a
• 22:11
  secondary market once they hit, you know, even if it takes a year that someone's
• 22:14
  got to sit on it, because again, I'm trying to remember what the limited
• 22:17
  quantity, uh, uh, build up number is on those, but look at the costs that are
• 22:22
  between two, the CA has done phenomenal in regards to, I should say Chevrolet
• 22:25
  has done a fabulous job in regards to.
• 22:28
  leveling up in regards to You know build materials everything's on the
• 22:33
  interior of that car because that was always kind of its Achilles
• 22:35
  heel Then everybody mocked it.
• 22:37
  Yeah, I had the horsepower Yeah, I can have it but the interior when it was
• 22:41
  just crap because you're like you're getting buttons, you know from a Chevy
• 22:45
  Cavalier or something like that in there because you know, obviously pinching
• 22:48
  pennies accountants get involved Well, just use that one that we use on the s10.
• 22:52
  Just put those switches in there You know, it's and you saw that so
• 22:55
  but they've done X job but Let me see what happens there, but anyways
• 23:00
  to kind of wrap this things up.
• 23:01
  We'll see what happens with the f80 and their allocations and
• 23:05
  What happens down the road here because having that many out there?
• 23:09
  That's a significant number especially on that special of
• 23:11
  a car a limited production car.
• 23:14
  You know, the other thing is doing 799 of them that's a lot that is a lot of
• 23:20
  cars But normally they're doing like, you know, 299, 399, that kind of stuff.
• 23:25
  All of a sudden, they basically doubled in regards to what
• 23:28
  they want to do with tail cars.
• 23:29
  And the amount of money they're making on them, it's just a patented thing.
• 23:33
  If you ever looked at Ferrari's stuff, because obviously it's a
• 23:35
  public company, you know, they only sell X amount of cars a year.
• 23:39
  Man, they make a crap load of money from just branding, everything like that.
• 23:42
  But they must be, they make a nice chunk of change on all the cars as well.
• 23:45
  But I mean, They do very, very, very well.
• 23:49
  There's no doubt about that for building what less than was it?
• 23:51
  15, 000 cards a year.
• 23:53
  I think it is.
• 23:53
  Uh, I haven't looked at production hours, but it's not that many.
• 23:56
  It is not that many.
• 23:57
  Basically it's what, you know, for GM or building a day they're building a year.
• 24:00
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• 24:03
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