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Killers Amongst Us: Mom of 3, Michelle Parker, vanishes after ‘The People’s Court’ appearance. (episode 3) · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Nancy Grace here welcome back to Killers amongst Us,
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Speaker 1: a production of iHeartMedia and Crime Online. When you walk
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Speaker 1: into malls, grocery stores, festivals, art displays, museums. Maybe it's
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Speaker 1: just because of my business, but sometimes I look around
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Speaker 1: and I wonder how many of these people are on
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Speaker 1: probation or parole, because you can't tell when killers are
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Speaker 1: walking amongst us. I'm Nancy Grace, Thanks for being with
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Speaker 1: us here at kau We left off at the discovery
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Speaker 1: of the vehicle of a beautiful young mom, Michelle Parker.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to lead Detective Mike Mureshia. What we're
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Speaker 1: gonna be releasing is red light video of Shell Parker's
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Speaker 1: hummer on the evening that she disappeared, and at eight
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Speaker 1: fifty five that night at the intersection of Violent and Conroy,
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Speaker 1: which is approximately three quarters of a mile from where
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Speaker 1: the hummer was ultimately discovered the next day. In the video,
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Speaker 1: you'll see that there is the car is not following anybody,
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Speaker 1: No one is following the car, and the glow stickers
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Speaker 1: that made it so prominent are no longer on the vehicle.
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Speaker 1: At that time, at eight fifty five pm, and we
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Speaker 1: are we are presuming that it was parked. It goes
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Speaker 1: in the direction of Walden Circle where it was was found,
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Speaker 1: and we're presuming it was parked early shortly thereafter. Guys,
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Speaker 1: the stickers were huge on her car. And I know
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Speaker 1: you've seen those vehicles, shrink wrapped with advertisements kind of
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Speaker 1: like that across the back of her black hummer, an
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Speaker 1: advertisement for herself on her business glow in Home Tans.
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Speaker 1: But between the time she goes missing last thing, dropping
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Speaker 1: her children off as she heads to work, didn't make
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Speaker 1: it to work at six o'clock when a car's found,
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Speaker 1: those stickers have been very scrupulously scraped off. That screams
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Speaker 1: not a random attack. What random attacker would take the
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Speaker 1: time to do that then hide the hummer in between
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Speaker 1: hundreds of other cars at a packed apartment complex across
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Speaker 1: from a very very busy mall. More evidence is leaking
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Speaker 1: out with me an all star panel. John w. Dial,
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Speaker 1: high profile lawyer out of Orlando on team Michelle Parker
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Speaker 1: looking for answers. You can find him at Johnwdal dot com.
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Speaker 1: Director of the Coldcase Research Institute, crime scene expert Cheryl McCollum,
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Speaker 1: you can find her at Coldcase Crimes dot org. Doctor
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Speaker 1: Jen Mann therapist, host off Couples Therapy VH one, The
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Speaker 1: Doctor Jen Show, Serious x them, author of a brand
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Speaker 1: new book, The Relationship Fix on Amazon. Find her at
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Speaker 1: doctor gen dot com. But straight out to Bianca Prieto,
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Speaker 1: former Orlando Sentinel criminal justice reporter. Bianca again, where was
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Speaker 1: her hammer? Last saying it was that a red light?
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Speaker 1: Where was that? That was near the mall Millennium, which
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Speaker 1: could truly upscale mall in orlandoming high end stores in
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Speaker 1: that neighborhood that's around the mall. It can kind of
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Speaker 1: get a little work around the edges. And it was
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Speaker 1: found in an apartment complex near that mall. But what
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Speaker 1: about her cell phone? The cell phone was not found
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Speaker 1: in her car? What became of that? Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to Karen Moore wish to fourteen days and von Stewart
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Speaker 1: is still holding out hope her daughter, Michelle Parker will
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Speaker 1: be found alive. Whenever they tell me that there's a body,
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Speaker 1: I know it's not her. As weird as that may
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Speaker 1: sound everybody out there listening that, you guys might think
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Speaker 1: that I'm in denial, but I know they're just not
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Speaker 1: going to find her. In the lake. They're just not.
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Speaker 1: Searchers on foot and horseback returned to Lake Eleanor this morning,
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Speaker 1: cutting through woods looking for any clues. Police won't say
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Speaker 1: if a specific tip led them here, but we do
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Speaker 1: know Michelle Parker's cell phone was powered down in this area,
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Speaker 1: which is also where her car was found. Cheryl McCollum
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Speaker 1: with me, forensic expert, director of the Coldcase Research Institute
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Speaker 1: at coldcasecrimes dot org. Cheryl, why is it so significant
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Speaker 1: that her cell phone was powered down near where her
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Speaker 1: hammer was found? A band and I say planted? I
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Speaker 1: mean where are you gonna look? I mean try to
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Speaker 1: It's like a needle in a haystack. Finding a car
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Speaker 1: like it's parked at the airport, for instance, it's nestled
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Speaker 1: in between all these other cars at a giant apartment
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Speaker 1: complex across from them all exactly. It's significant that her
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Speaker 1: phone powered down there because again, it seems like whoever
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Speaker 1: left her car there is taking away anything that would
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Speaker 1: identify her. The logo on the back of that car
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Speaker 1: was all about her. That was her business, her baby.
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Speaker 1: A lot of people may have a hummer, but if
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Speaker 1: law enforcement is scouring a parking lot looking for that logo,
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Speaker 1: it wouldn't be there, and they powered that phone down
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Speaker 1: at the same time to stop any activity from her.
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Speaker 1: And why is that significant? I mean, just anecdotally, with
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Speaker 1: every random murderer or kidnapping that I have ever seen,
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Speaker 1: the purpose doesn't go to such great links to cover
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Speaker 1: their tracks. They do the deed, they do the rape,
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Speaker 1: they do the murder, they do the kidnap, and they
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Speaker 1: get the hay out of there. They don't take time
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Speaker 1: to take the cell phone, power it down, right, hide it,
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Speaker 1: hide the car, scrape off decals. That takes a lot
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Speaker 1: of time. Again, it's significant to me, and I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: have moved from it. This no longer appears to be random,
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Speaker 1: stranger own stranger to me. Guys, we're talking about the
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Speaker 1: disappearance of a gorgeous young mom, three children, two of
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Speaker 1: them twins. Where is that cell phone? Why is it
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Speaker 1: so significant we find the cell phone? I mean, do
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Speaker 1: doctor Jen Man, renowned therapist host on series Sex sim
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Speaker 1: author doctor Mann. Now, cell phones are really an extension
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Speaker 1: of your persona. I mean, if you look at mine,
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Speaker 1: you say about, oh my goodness, twelve fifteen thousand pictures
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Speaker 1: of the twins camping the twins standing in front of
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Speaker 1: the coach drive. The twins at this, The twins at that,
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Speaker 1: it's all about our family. Every contact I know is
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Speaker 1: in there. I mean it is an extension of me.
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Speaker 1: I guess is that tree for everyone? Absolutely? And it
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Speaker 1: gives us so much information about a person's psyche, a
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Speaker 1: person's lifestyle, where they were last, who they're spending time with,
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Speaker 1: any kind of secret life that they may have, any
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Speaker 1: hidden filed, any hidden photos, who they've called. It's such
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Speaker 1: valuable information in terms of knowing so many things about
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Speaker 1: a person, whether they're living a secret life. It reveals
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Speaker 1: so much. And what do they expect they're going to
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Speaker 1: find on that John W. Deal, personal injury lawyer out
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Speaker 1: of Orlando, who's on team. I'm Chelle Parker. Team find
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Speaker 1: Michelle Parker. John, What did they expect to find from
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Speaker 1: her cell phone that they're so desperately searching for. Well,
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Speaker 1: they're trying to see who she might have at last
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Speaker 1: been in contact with, you know, where she had been going.
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Speaker 1: Keep in mind that she was supposed to be at
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Speaker 1: work up in Sanford, which is north of town. The
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Speaker 1: Millennium All is just south of downtown. So where was
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Speaker 1: she where was she going. She doesn't show up the works,
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Speaker 1: so there's a lot of clues as see what her
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Speaker 1: movements might have been and who she been communicating with
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Speaker 1: as well. I want to see those texts, those emails,
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Speaker 1: those photos, and plus it's like a built in GPS tracker,
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, Nancy, not only do you have a GPS,
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Speaker 1: but again you're going to have in real time who
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Speaker 1: she contacted, who contacted her, any threats, anything that you
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Speaker 1: know doesn't fit, If there's a number that it's not
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Speaker 1: attached to a person that she would normally contact, if
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Speaker 1: somebody is having an argument with her over text messages
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Speaker 1: or email, all that will be right there, including photographs
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Speaker 1: that somebody might have sent anything, it's going to be
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Speaker 1: right there. We know while that hummer being found parked
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Speaker 1: amongst hundreds of cars is being processed for any clues
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Speaker 1: left behind, hair, fiber, fingerprints, DNA, you name at, a
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Speaker 1: search is on for her cell phone. Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to this this morning and what clues If any police
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Speaker 1: found on missing mother Michelle Parker's cell phone, it could
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Speaker 1: be a key piece of evidence in this case. Kara
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Speaker 1: Moore's at the family's command post in Sanford. So what
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Speaker 1: are they saying about this, Well, it's certainly a break
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Speaker 1: in the case that the family has been praying for
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Speaker 1: for a long time. Now. Jason and c on Michelle
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Speaker 1: Parker's cell phone, the very phone her mother at one
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Speaker 1: point told me she was never without, has been found
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Speaker 1: and now we're family hopes that leads investigators right to her.
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Speaker 1: And take a listen to more of Karen Moore from
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Speaker 1: WESH You're step forward in finding missing mother of three
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Speaker 1: Michelle Parker. Investigators have found her cell phone, her family
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Speaker 1: says Orlando police showed them a photo of it yesterday.
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Speaker 1: This is home video of Parker using that very phone.
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Speaker 1: Her sister knew right away it was Michelle's. Seeing that,
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Speaker 1: it just gives me hope that, you know why, even
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Speaker 1: after so many days, you can still find something, even
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Speaker 1: though time's passing and it seems like nothing's happening, They
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Speaker 1: keeping that hope that things are still happening. So it's
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Speaker 1: just it's it's a bundle of emotions right now. Police
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Speaker 1: have not said where it was found or what condition
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Speaker 1: it's in. The phone has been found. Cops refusing to
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Speaker 1: say where it's found or what condition it's in. But
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Speaker 1: I thought to you, Cheryl McCallum, you're in the forensics expert.
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Speaker 1: Even if a phone has been beaten up, put underwater,
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Speaker 1: all sorts of damage can come to your phone. Can't
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Speaker 1: you still somehow manage to get evidence off of it? Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: there's things on the cloud forever. So again, if she
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Speaker 1: posted videos, she posted photographs, her emails are going to
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Speaker 1: be there. Even though the phone is damaged, There's going
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Speaker 1: to be tons of information for me when I get
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Speaker 1: to that scene. How that phone is damaged means a
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Speaker 1: lot to me because who would do that? Wouldn't her? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: who would go to the trouble of damaging the phone?
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Speaker 1: What's on the phone? And they don't want you to see?
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to this and two new areas now
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Speaker 1: being searched for any signs of the missing mother, Michelle Parker.
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Speaker 1: These searchers have been going on for several hours now.
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Speaker 1: At the first scene, divers looking at a canal near
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Speaker 1: Choscer Lane in South Orange County. This is near where
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Speaker 1: other searches for Parker have taken place. Why she's bob
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Speaker 1: killing live near the canal with the breaking details? So Bob,
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Speaker 1: why did they choose a spot we'll see on It's
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Speaker 1: really just due west and a little bit south of
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Speaker 1: where Michelle Parker's iPhone was found in Lake Conway. And
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Speaker 1: I can also tell you that the members of this
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Speaker 1: dive team who are still actively searching at this time
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Speaker 1: are the ones who actually found the phone within the
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Speaker 1: last week. And according to us some of the residents
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Speaker 1: in here and what we've been able to see, it
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Speaker 1: appears that the divers are targeting a very specific area.
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Speaker 1: The Orlando Police Department says they are continuing their search
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Speaker 1: efforts for any clues that could lead to the location
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Speaker 1: of Michelle Parker, and they say we are concentrating our
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Speaker 1: search efforts into separate locations. One of them is near
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Speaker 1: Orange Blossom Trail and Jordan Avenue in this canal. The
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Speaker 1: other location is quite a ways east of here, along
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Speaker 1: the Econ Trail between Curry Ford and Leave Vista. Here
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Speaker 1: our friends at West describing but not yet really identify
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Speaker 1: where the cell phone is found, but we do know
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Speaker 1: it was found in a body of water. Back out
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Speaker 1: to Bianca Prieto, former Orlando set an old criminal justice reporter,
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Speaker 1: where was her phone found? That phone would sound thrown
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Speaker 1: over a bridge on the side of town where she
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Speaker 1: would last seeing. It wasn't in that deep of water,
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Speaker 1: and it looked like somebody could have just easily chucked
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Speaker 1: it out a window as they drove past, hoping nobody
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Speaker 1: would ever find it. Wow, Cheryl McCollum, when a phone
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Speaker 1: goes under water, if it has not been powered down,
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Speaker 1: does it still give a signal? I mean it might
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Speaker 1: for a little bit, but no, I mean it would
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Speaker 1: stop pretty quick. But what's significant about this is the
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Speaker 1: person continued to move it sounds like and they just
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Speaker 1: discarded it, trying to get rid of it as fast
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Speaker 1: as they could, so it wasn't connected to them. It's
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Speaker 1: also significant to me that the phone is near where
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Speaker 1: she was last seen. So it seems to me all indications,
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Speaker 1: all indicators, are toward one area. The iPhone is so
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Speaker 1: central to this investigation. When you look at tracking information
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Speaker 1: from your cell phone, it can pinpoint you within I believe,
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Speaker 1: less than a mile. You know, Cheryl McCollum, I know
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Speaker 1: you recall recently the twins went with their school to
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Speaker 1: go with their band to play at Disney. Now you
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Speaker 1: know perfectly well, I was not going to let to
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Speaker 1: eleven year olds go on a bus without me to
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Speaker 1: another state and wander around Disney alone. Okay, that's not
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Speaker 1: going to happen. So I wanted them to feel independent
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Speaker 1: and free. Of course, I tell the bus all the
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Speaker 1: way to Orlando. But what I did was install Life
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Speaker 1: three sixty on their phones. So I did not, but
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Speaker 1: give me credit, I did not go into Disney with them,
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Speaker 1: but I could see where they were moving around, you know,
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Speaker 1: in generally the same area, her with her friends, John
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Speaker 1: David was with his friends, and I could tell where
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Speaker 1: they were based on Life three sixty. And that is
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Speaker 1: much the way a cell phone navigator works. Absolutely, you
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Speaker 1: can not only tell exactly where the person is or
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Speaker 1: where the phone is, so to speak. Again, you can
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Speaker 1: tell what they're doing simultaneously. Are they looking something up
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Speaker 1: on Google? Are they sent in text messages, or they're
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Speaker 1: receiving or making phone calls. All of this is simultaneous,
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Speaker 1: and when you get that report back, it's astounding what
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Speaker 1: you can tell about someone's movements. It's also going to
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Speaker 1: be critical the movements of this phone. When they determined
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Speaker 1: it wasn't her in movement because their phone was powered
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Speaker 1: down before it was thrown into this I guess John W. Dill,
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Speaker 1: high profile lawyer on team find Michelle Parker. John the
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Speaker 1: phone was powered down? Where was it powered down? John?
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Speaker 1: Who was powered down? Closer to where the car was found?
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Speaker 1: But interestingly, the last the last cell phone pain was
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Speaker 1: near Belle Isle. And you heard Bob Keeling they're talking
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Speaker 1: that piece about searching Lake Conway, which is a large
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Speaker 1: body of water. So that's far away, certainly from Stanford
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Speaker 1: and kind of on the way to the Mall of Millennia.
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Speaker 1: So it was active in pained in near the bell
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Speaker 1: Isisle area south of Orlando. Her car pain from in
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Speaker 1: between where she dropped the children off and where her
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Speaker 1: hummer was found. Am I getting that correct? Okay? So
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Speaker 1: then it was intentionally powered down. You know a lot
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Speaker 1: of people, believe it or not, doctor jen Man, you're
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Speaker 1: the therapist, never turned their phone off. Okay, I'm one
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Speaker 1: of them because I don't think about it. I plug
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Speaker 1: it in when I need to charge it and I
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Speaker 1: just keep going. But to take time to power it
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Speaker 1: down in the middle of the day, she had this
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Speaker 1: phone attached to her body. That's not her powering that
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Speaker 1: phone down. I'm just telling you that, doctor jen Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I would agree with you. It's unusual unless you've got
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Speaker 1: something to list in your phone and your turn off
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Speaker 1: the plane onto we set it. Most people don't turn upon.
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Speaker 1: Most people have it on all the time. And it's
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Speaker 1: obviously very suspicious that it was powered down. The timing
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Speaker 1: of it makes it incredibly suspect. She wasn't in her car.
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Speaker 1: Jump in, Cheryl. She didn't power it down, she wasn't
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Speaker 1: going in that direction. Whoever took her through that phone
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Speaker 1: and but the powering down, I don't think that that
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Speaker 1: would be her normal behavior as well. People go out
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Speaker 1: of their way to keep their phone on. They have
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Speaker 1: those you know chargers that are like handheld chargers. They
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Speaker 1: will do anything in their power to keep that phone
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Speaker 1: charged up. Absolutely no way a mama of two is
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Speaker 1: going to power down her phone. Not gonna happen. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, don't mock that, because when I go anywhere,
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Speaker 1: either have the phone charged, have a charger. I also
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Speaker 1: have a little portable charger that fits on the bottom
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Speaker 1: of the phone because I Am not going to be
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Speaker 1: out with the twins and not have the phone powered up.
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Speaker 1: How many times, Cheryl have we read the gas the
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Speaker 1: car went empty, the phone powered down, I mean, come on,
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Speaker 1: please prepare, trust me. Yeah, I wouldn't mock at it.
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Speaker 1: I'm flat saying, there's no way a mama too is
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Speaker 1: going to let her phone power down. It's not gonna
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Speaker 1: happen in no way. So to you, Bianca Prieto, where
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Speaker 1: she dropped the children off and between where the hammer
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Speaker 1: was found hidden amongst all those cars, what was it
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Speaker 1: about halfway where it was powered down? Yeah, it was
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Speaker 1: about it was near where she was blasting. You know
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Speaker 1: that that bridge. It's a tiny, little two road. It's
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Speaker 1: in a neighborhood. It's not a major A little bit
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Speaker 1: A bunch of people will be driving past. You'd have
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Speaker 1: to be in that neighborhood to be on that bridge.
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Speaker 1: And I want to point out too, is that if
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Speaker 1: that phone was powered down, she got her older son
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Speaker 1: at school who talks to mamma every day after school,
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Speaker 1: So why would she power down? Right? Right, that's right,
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Speaker 1: that's how the whole thing, the alarm was raised. When
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Speaker 1: you're when her older son, she got the two little twins,
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Speaker 1: and then the eleven year old talks to her every
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Speaker 1: day after school. She should have been on her way
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Speaker 1: to work and she would be expecting that phone call
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Speaker 1: that didn't happen. Guys, take a listen to this. Brad
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Speaker 1: Parker says. Detectives dedicated today to Michelle's iPhone, which was
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Speaker 1: found last week, and they may be able to figure
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Speaker 1: out her every move before she went missing. She's my firstborn,
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Speaker 1: She's my little girl. I choked up father tonight, time
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Speaker 1: stick and Michelle's not with us. Fearing the worst. I'm depressed,
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Speaker 1: I'm sad, I'm mad. I don't want to find Michelle.
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Speaker 1: Brad Parker tells Fox thirty five. Detectives spend a day
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Speaker 1: going through Michelle's iPhone. I heard from the detectives. It's
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Speaker 1: like a little computer that may indicate where she was,
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Speaker 1: who she last talked to. This cell phone found last
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Speaker 1: week at the bottom of a lake and Belle Isle
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Speaker 1: the biggest piece of evidence so far since the missing
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Speaker 1: mom of three vanished nearly four weeks ago. It's a
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Speaker 1: big part of the puzzle. That's right, Dad, Brad Parker
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Speaker 1: Senior could not be more correct. Those are our friends
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Speaker 1: at Fox thirty five takeles to wish to Bob Keeling.
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Speaker 1: Despite an absence of high profile searches this week, Orlando
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Speaker 1: Police Chief Paul Rooney says his detectives are still busy
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Speaker 1: following leads in the Michelle Parker disappearance. Rooney confirmed that
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Speaker 1: Parker's phone was found under water and suggested they are
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Speaker 1: getting useful information from it. We are still falling up
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Speaker 1: relentlessly on any tips that you would not know about
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Speaker 1: that come in through crime line, that phone calls, or
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Speaker 1: leads that we may be getting from the cell phone.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to have on my twenty first year here
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Speaker 1: at OPD, and this has been the most massive effort
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Speaker 1: I've ever been involved. During a year in review presentation
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Speaker 1: on Orlando's crime numbers, the lead detective in the Parker
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Speaker 1: case said he's confident the three places they've looked for
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Speaker 1: clues have been searched thoroughly, constantly, keep going and trying
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Speaker 1: to get this family some answers, and I'm optimistic that
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Speaker 1: we will, despite the time that's gone by my heart.
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Speaker 1: During an interview with Dateline NBC this week, Michelle Parker's
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Speaker 1: mom said the discovery of that phone brought with it
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Speaker 1: overwhelming feelings of despair. That was my hope is that
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Speaker 1: they would never find that phone and she still had it.
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Speaker 1: At some point she could get to it. You know,
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Speaker 1: that's when I really started to think this isn't going
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Speaker 1: to end well. To John w Deal, high profile lawyer
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Speaker 1: on team find Michelle, working very closely with Michelle's family,
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Speaker 1: explain what Michelle's mom meant by that, I was hoping
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Speaker 1: they wouldn't find the cell phone well, even though obviously
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Speaker 1: they were very close knit. When somebody disappear years like
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Speaker 1: that with no reason, maybe you are thinking, well, maybe
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Speaker 1: she just took some time off or try to get
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Speaker 1: away from everything, although that would have been really out
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Speaker 1: of character. So there's still that hope that the phone
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Speaker 1: was out there, attached to alive Michelle and at some
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Speaker 1: point she'd reach out. But when that phone, who which
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Speaker 1: they always used to communicate with it all day long,
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Speaker 1: showed up, it was just that thinking feeling that Van
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Speaker 1: talked about there in that clip, Doctor Jenn therapist, wait,
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Speaker 1: and doctor jan about what mom just said. Well, I
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Speaker 1: think you, probably more than anyone, since you've covered so
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Speaker 1: many stories over the years, can really understand the level
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Speaker 1: of fear and grief and sadness and despair that this
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Speaker 1: mother feels. And she knows her daughter, She knows her
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Speaker 1: daughter would never part with her cell phone. She knows.
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Speaker 1: At this point it's dawning on her that her daughter
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Speaker 1: may not be found alive. And there's nothing more heartbreaking
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Speaker 1: than a parent losing a child. And then suddenly the
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Speaker 1: command post is moved. Take a listen to XCDM. Michelle
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Speaker 1: Parker's family is moving the command post to the Barn
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Speaker 1: and Sandford and that's the bar where Parker worked as
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Speaker 1: a bartender. Volunteers are resuming their search this morning after
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Speaker 1: searching canals in South Orlando this weekend. It has been
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Speaker 1: two and a half weeks now since Parker was last seen.
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Speaker 1: Her loved ones held a fundraiser Saturday night. They sold
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Speaker 1: T shirts to raise money for Parker's three children. Michelle,
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Speaker 1: I'm looking for you. The whole world, the whole state
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Speaker 1: of Assorta is actually looking for Michelle. Parker's family headset
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Speaker 1: up their command post in South Orlando off Oak Ridge Road,
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Speaker 1: and that's the area where Parker's suv was found abandoned.
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Speaker 1: To our friend John W. Deal, the high profile lawyer
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Speaker 1: working to find Michelle, why was the command post moved? Well,
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Speaker 1: now we're kind of bullying in on where she had lasted,
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Speaker 1: seen where the cars found. Okay, let me understand something, John,
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Speaker 1: She drops the shouldren off. She's heading to the barn,
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Speaker 1: which is where she was reporting to work. Her two
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Speaker 1: children had been two twins have been dropped off with babysitter.
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Speaker 1: The other child is at school eleven years old. So
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Speaker 1: where the phone pained is that in the opposite direction
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Speaker 1: she would have traveled it to work. Absolutely the phone
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Speaker 1: pings Stamford is North Atown, about fifteen or twenty minutes
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Speaker 1: on our innstate. Here the phone pains down by Lake Conway,
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Speaker 1: which is now more closer to where she was last
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Speaker 1: seen and also where the car is found or where
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Speaker 1: the hummer is found. So everything geographically is pointing in
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Speaker 1: that direction away from where she was supposed to go.
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Speaker 1: Her hummer going in the opposite direction she would have
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Speaker 1: gone in hersell phone being powered down, which she never
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Speaker 1: would have done. Take a listen to Bob Keeling It
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Speaker 1: wish too with a startling new theory. When Parker was
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Speaker 1: last seen dropping off her twins, her hummer had this
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Speaker 1: sticker advertising her home tanning business. Hours later, when red
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Speaker 1: light camera video picked up footage of it being driven
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Speaker 1: at Conroy and Vineland, the sticker was gone. Police suspects
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Speaker 1: someone involved with her disappearance, pulled into this remote area
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Speaker 1: to strip it off and make the vehicle less recognizable.
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Speaker 1: We don't know who was driving it, but somebody was
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Speaker 1: driving it, and I hope to god there was nervous
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Speaker 1: as hell that we're coming after them, a lead detective
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Speaker 1: tells Wish too. This area is also where Parker's phone
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Speaker 1: pinged for a final time with a text message police
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Speaker 1: believe someone else sent to give her family the impression
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Speaker 1: Michelle was still alive. Later, down this same route, someone
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Speaker 1: threw her phone off the Neelas Street Bridge, belle Isle.
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Speaker 1: So now it's all starting to make sense to me.
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Speaker 1: And I look at Google Earth and I do the geography,
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Speaker 1: and I figure, yeah, this is halfway between here and
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Speaker 1: the Nila Bridge. Despite a lack of success here, Parker's
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Speaker 1: loved ones remain determined. Hey over yet, honey. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: find you one day, I hope. Now. The startling theory
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Speaker 1: that someone else is fake texting from Michelle's phone, what
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Speaker 1: about it? Bianca Prieto, former Orlando's Sentinel criminal justice reporter,
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Speaker 1: explain what was that last text? That last text was
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Speaker 1: just one word and all it's said with Waterford. Waterford
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Speaker 1: is a neighborhood that is in East Orlando, and it
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Speaker 1: would be sort of on the way to where Michelle
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Speaker 1: was supposed to report to work. But we don't know
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Speaker 1: if she's the one to actually sent it or not.
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Speaker 1: So let me go to you, John W. Deal, high
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Speaker 1: profile lawyer working with Michelle's family. What does her family
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Speaker 1: make of that one word text? Well, very out of
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Speaker 1: the ordinary for her, you know, even at the time
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Speaker 1: it displays, you know, she was very into texting, would
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Speaker 1: have long sort of text conversations and in response to
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Speaker 1: where are you, we haven't heard from you? A one
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Speaker 1: word text was certainly out of the ordinary. It's unlike
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Speaker 1: any other texting to what about it? Charylne Collum patterns.
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Speaker 1: Everything right here is going to come down to patterns.
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Speaker 1: Her pattern was to send her family like a book
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Speaker 1: every time she responded to them, like they even made
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Speaker 1: fun of her because of it. For her to send
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Speaker 1: a one word response when she failed to pick her
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Speaker 1: child up after school and didn't meet him at home
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Speaker 1: threw this family into a panic because they knew that
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Speaker 1: was not her. Doctor Jen, doctor Jen, man with me,
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Speaker 1: doctor Jen. You know when someone does something so out
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Speaker 1: of the ordinary, people close to the victim, No it's wrong,
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Speaker 1: but it's hard to convince outsiders that this is really.
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Speaker 1: For instance, where the timeline starts when she headed in
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Speaker 1: the wrong direction from work, when that cell phone was
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Speaker 1: powered down, when that fake text was sent nothing like
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Speaker 1: her other texts, That is when the timeline starts. In
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Speaker 1: my mind, that we know at that point she's either
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Speaker 1: kidnapped or dead right there, based strictly on behavioral evidence alone, absolutely,
27:31
Speaker 1: and we all look at patterns with our loved ones
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Speaker 1: to predict their behavior, to understand things they've done, And
27:40
Speaker 1: in a situation like this, where someone goes missing, it
27:45
Speaker 1: is so important to look at what are their patterns,
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Speaker 1: And as was pointed out, this is someone who would
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Speaker 1: send long text messages back about really simple small things.
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Speaker 1: So for her to just type one word like that
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Speaker 1: is completely out of character and makes you think that
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Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't her. For instance, my children, Lucy doesn't
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Speaker 1: even pay attention to her cell phone. You can text her,
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Speaker 1: call or forget about it, and she's that way about everybody,
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Speaker 1: not not just mommy friends, brother, and she's just not
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Speaker 1: into it. My son, however, lives on his cell phone.
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Speaker 1: He'll text back immediately within thirty seconds. That's their pattern
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Speaker 1: that's been established for now two years now. This one
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Speaker 1: word text. Let me compare to this, Cheryl McCallum. We
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Speaker 1: all remember the j Simpson double murder debacle, and neighbors,
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Speaker 1: in my mind, really start the timeline when they heard Brown,
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Speaker 1: who was basically beheaded in her driveway along with her
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Speaker 1: friend Ron Goldman, her dog Akita let out a quote
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Speaker 1: plaintive well or a plaintive howl at a certain time.
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Speaker 1: They had never heard the dog do that before in
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Speaker 1: all the years they had lived there. And I guarantee
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Speaker 1: you that's when the murders were going down. Correct. A
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Speaker 1: stranger would not text back for what there's no connection,
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Speaker 1: There's no reason to pretend she's still alive or okay
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Speaker 1: for that person. That person is going to harm her
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Speaker 1: and get ghosts. They're not going to fool with her car,
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Speaker 1: they're not going to fool with her logo, they're not
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Speaker 1: going to fool with her phone because it's not necessary.
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Speaker 1: This person is having to try to convince somebody she's
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Speaker 1: still alive and okay so that the crime is not discovered.
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Speaker 1: This is exactly how circumstantial cases are built. I remember
29:49
Speaker 1: prosecuting a serial killer got him on one murder, but
29:52
Speaker 1: that's all it took to put him away. I had
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Speaker 1: to analyze one ear ring and what the location, how
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Speaker 1: it got there, how it was torn from the victim's
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Speaker 1: ear What that meant about the primary, the secondary, the
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Speaker 1: tertiary crime scene. What could I deduce from one ear ring.
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Speaker 1: By the time I finished, I had two posters full
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Speaker 1: of what could be deduced from the placement, the mode,
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Speaker 1: the style, so much more of one earring. What can
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Speaker 1: we learn about the cell phone? We now know that
30:38
Speaker 1: from the time she dropped off her baby twins to
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Speaker 1: the time that text went out. In that short space
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Speaker 1: of time, she was either killed or kidnapped. We know
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Speaker 1: a lot from the way the cell phone was disposed
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Speaker 1: of in a shallow body of water when somebody drove
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Speaker 1: over that bridge. Now the question is how does the
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Speaker 1: Number one Judge Show syndicated program that aired that day
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Speaker 1: play into Michelle Parker's disappearance. Nancy Grace killers amongst us
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Speaker 1: signing off Goodbye friend