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Pain is Happening For You with Lisa Watson · Giving Pain Purpose with Lyndsay Soprano

• Lyndsay Soprano (00:01.698) There are so many things the little girl I once was knew nothing of, right? She didn't know what trauma was. She didn't know that awful things, the awful things that happened to her were not normal. She didn't know how her body would hold on to grief from such a young age and carry it with her into her teenage years, then into her early adulthood and now into well, into my... late forties, the things that we carry. Man, if there's something that I've learned by doing this show, it is that I have been carrying a lot. And I'm so grateful that I am now seeing the weight that this albatross that I feel like I've got like 30 albatrosses behind me. And what I have found is that this little girl that I grieve for is alive and kicking and screaming and has been hungry for safety, for justice, for peace, for wellness. And I'm sitting here. at my beautiful age of 47, and I am reflecting back on the horrible things that happened to me and the things that I did as a reaction to the things that did happen to me. And it just makes me cry, man. You know, it makes me sad. It makes me sob. It makes me so, so sad. And some days are worse than others. And some days I try to not think about it. It's hard to believe that every day of my life I have in some way, shape or form. But that little girl still feels like she's rolled up into a tight little ball in a dark closet, even still. And we are working on her, I like how I'm using her today, by the way. We're working on her, healing her, so that she can finally feel safe. So that she can understand that it wasn't her fault. And my illness and what I have been dealing with over the past decade now, which is hard to believe, full of, excuse me, over the past decade now are. are a full reflection of the areas that I need to heal and to change and it isn't easy to do, but I am doing the thing, you know, not just on my day to day, but here with you and with my guests today who you're gonna love. So thank you for being here to witness this blessed occasion. You are a huge part of my healing and for that I will forever be grateful. So today we're gonna chat with my absolute hottie tottie of a guest today about the emotional roots of chronic pain. Lyndsay Soprano (02:27.32) healing through inner child work, breaking the cycle of trauma, empowering through authenticity, boy, authenticity, come on, and much, much more. So without further ado, I would like to introduce you today to my beautiful Lisa Watson. Hello, my love. Lisa Watson (02:43.946) Hello, thank you so much. a gift and an honor it is to be here with you. Lyndsay Soprano (02:49.606) and it's a gift and honor to have you with us today. So let me introduce you real quick. So Lisa is a transformational coach, author, and PhD candidate. We will call her Dr. Watson someday. An integrative health medicine who helps people heal the parts of themselves they were taught to hide. Creator of the Reparent Yourself Method, she guides individuals through inner child work and subconscious reprogramming to break toxic cycles. transform relationships and reclaim self-worth. All of the things that this one needs. Lisa believes illness and pain are messengers, signals from the body pointing toward what still needs healing. And her work truly does align with the heart of the Pain Game podcast, facing truth, feeling it fully and finding freedom on the other side. So I am rolling out the red carpet for you here, babe. I would like to start, if that's okay with you, about how your personal journey led you to focus. on the connection between unresolved trauma and physical pain. And then let's kind of take it from there. Lisa Watson (03:54.264) Well, thank you. Lyndsay Soprano (03:55.182) I know, that's a big, that's a big start. Lisa Watson (03:58.604) like whoa okay I'm so excited like I I love talking about this stuff and I'm so grateful that you have this platform that we can share and you know people can know that they're not alone out there in their pain it's really important that we all share our authenticity and our true story so I'm so happy you're doing that. The path that led me here was Lyndsay Soprano (04:07.904) Thank you. Lisa Watson (04:24.464) You know, my own journey, honestly, just like you, you know, just trying to make the best out of this life of mine. But I had a difficult upbringing like so many of us do, know, narcissism, alcoholism, abandonment, you name it, I've done it. I was married, I was in a toxic narcissistic relationship for over 28 years. And when I got out of that at your age, 47, is when I was able to get out of that marriage, I was so flipping excited. I was literally, I see myself like a golden retriever that was in this backyard. And granted, I had a beautiful backyard. We were financially stable, we were... You know lived in the suburbs. I homeschooled my kids heck. even had a Ferrari my husband loved Ferraris Was that an indication of what was going on in our nervous systems or you know behind the curtains? No, not at all. We were all trying to keep it together, right? And so when I got out of this marriage, I was just like, my gosh I was like a chain dog the the yard might have been pretty but I was only allowed to be like in this one little yard and I just like The leash was off and I was running around to everybody's porch like, you know, can I come visit you? Can I come visit you? I was saying yes to everything. I wanted to do all the things and try all the things. And I decided I just wanted to live a life that was in alignment with me that brought me joy. I've always been into personal development. I've been into spirituality since I was young. Lyndsay Soprano (05:53.166) sniffing all the fannies. Lisa Watson (06:11.426) I'm like 14, I'm clearly one of those that they'll call a light worker, a chosen one or star seed, whatever label you want to put on it that I came here with a purpose to help, you know, like you did to help other people remember who they are, to remember that we are God in form and that we are the creators of our reality. And it just really drove me, I was just driven to live my best life. And so I'm reading lots of books, doing personal development, know, listening to podcasts, trying to figure it out. I want to make more money. I want to have a better relationship. I want to be all these things. Right. And what I realized was it was subconscious programming. I was listening to I read like Bruce, a lot of Bruce Lipton, a lot of Joe Dispenza. I've read every single self help book out there since the 1970s. I've been reading this stuff literally since I was 14 years old. I studied a course in miracles at the age of 17. So yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (07:14.434) Wow, that's no small feat. Lisa Watson (07:18.806) No, and then was in a narcissistic relationship after that for 28 years. I know it's the only thing that kept me from really getting cancer or some sort of illness because I was able to see things from a higher perspective and not take things so personally. But I really made the connection between the subconscious mind and our reality. And then from there, I was able to trace it to early childhood development that this subconscious programming was formed in the first seven years of life. And when you start to understand childhood development, which I studied that I even became a nanny for over four years, just so I could have more experience with little ones since my children are grown, they're in their thirties now. And I wanted to practice, you know, what I was trying to learn, what I was learning. And I realized that the subconscious mind is the inner child. And I didn't even know anything about the inner child before this at all. And I realized that because we're in a theta brainwave state, we're literally in a hypnotic state the first seven years of our life, that's when all the programs are downloaded into what I call this operating system of this avatar that we're in. And that we are just conditioned. We're conditioned beings. We're literally programmable beings that were running off of scripts and programs. And once I realized that, I was like, it's just, we can change those programs ourselves. And so I learned how to do that through self-talk, through going back and rescuing my inner child and through bringing her back into the present reality. And During this time, I had a gift of three torn disks in my lower back. In my one, two, and three. Which put me out for almost three years. Like I could barely do anything. I also had a spiritual awakening during this time and was gifted with light language. I don't know if anyone knows what that is, but I channel light language. Lisa Watson (09:35.926) And when it first came on to me spontaneously, which was during an overnight date with my husband, our first date, which is a great story I have posted on TikTok. It's worth listening to a little three minute version of it. I had to quit my job. I was, and I had to, I just basically retired. I had been working in corporate America for over 27 years, homeschooling my kids. was. Type A personality doing 10 gazillion things all the time married to a narcissist trying to keep myself sane, And I just totally thought narcissist and then I just lost my train of thought. I'm like, what's happening to my mind right? Lyndsay Soprano (10:19.438) That's what happens. They come in and they infiltrate us. I was also married to a narcissist. Lisa Watson (10:26.416) What's happening to my mind right now? So wherever I was, was, uh... Lyndsay Soprano (10:30.296) You were talking about your story. It was a really great story about your life healing. We're very focused here on this show. Lisa Watson (10:32.88) You Lisa Watson (10:38.128) Seriously, that's so crazy though, like how stuff happens like that. Cause it's true. It just like it hits your nervous system. And these are things that are, really hard to let go. But you know, you were talking about like illness and that's who we're talking to here on this, on this beautiful podcast is the, was talking about my, my back hurting. It was a gift and, I knew that when it started, because I've always had this higher perspective and I've been, you know, learning these things my whole life. Lyndsay Soprano (10:43.0) I know. Lisa Watson (11:07.576) And I knew it was happening for me, as painful as it was, as many nights as I spent crying and all the things that I did through this pain, I knew that it was there for a reason. And I kept just trying to connect with that part of it, like being grateful for this pain that I was in. Like I knew that it was happening for me, even though I didn't really appreciate it or like it. And I realized that it was the exact thing that I needed because I was such an A type personality. mean literally people used to tell me Lisa you do more in one day and this is not hyperbole than I do in a week. I mean I was a runner I did landscaping I was like my husband's personal assistant I home-schooled I worked the night shift from 3 to 11 every night. I never had a housekeeper I never had anyone help me with anything. My house was immaculate and I made all my meals. nearly when I think back to my life, I'm like, that's impossible. Nobody could do that. If I didn't do it myself, I literally wouldn't think that is possible. So the. Lyndsay Soprano (12:11.918) And I think a lot of people identify with that. I certainly do. I'm a busy body. always have been being somebody that was an insomniac as a little girl and that instill them to this day. I always had to keep myself occupied. so starting talking about programming, mean, I was my brain already was exhausted by the time I was, you know, in junior high and that running that constant going, I was running my marketing business again. I didn't have a housekeeper. My house was immaculate. You're saying all these things. I'm like, yep, yep. Mm-hmm, sure. Yep. And today, right before we started, I said my house is a complete, is a chaotic disaster right now, but I'm running the show right now. Even while I'm doing this right now, I've got 25 people doing stuff for me out there that I've been managing since this morning, right, to make sure that we were able to carve out time to be able to have this conversation together. And we just go and we go and we go and that type A and that overachiever and all of that and us. And you saying that pain has come to you as a gift and you knew that is a beautiful Lisa Watson (12:54.18) That's great. Lyndsay Soprano (13:10.754) beautiful sentiment and thought here. And I love that you said it because fortunately for you, you knew it right away. I just recently figured it out. And so with this show is where I figured this out, where I found that I'm gonna give pain purpose now. And now it has turned into what I wake up thinking about is this, is this work that we're doing here today, the things that I do, the research that I do, the movies I watch, the documentaries I read, the books I read. all the things to prep myself to be able to have these kinds of conversations. And it is now like my superpower. I'm using it as my superpower and I think it's beautiful. It's nice to share that. It's nice to share that because people are like, what's pain as a gift? crazy. Well, of course I'm crazy, but. Lisa Watson (13:50.136) Absolutely. Lisa Watson (13:55.54) everything that's awesome why not be crazy but every the the thing is that is everything is happening for you and i realize that we can't put these little things in in silos like either you accept the whole enchilada or you don't accept any of it at all you know if if pain is happening for you then everything else in your life must also be happening for you like Literally the flat tire is happening for you. The internet going out is happening for you, right? Everything's happening for you because we live in a holographic reality. I mean, we are God-informed. We are consciousness. There is no past. There is no future. There is only this present moment. There is only our consciousness that creates this reality. have to See that and take responsibility for this life and stop feeling like we're a victim to anything. You're not a victim to your pain or your circumstances or your narcissistic husband. They're all there happening for you to bring you home to yourself so that you can remember who you are. It's pointing you back in a direction that maybe your inner child needs healing. She needs validation. She needs to be seen and heard. When you started off at the beginning telling your story, you know, describing your inner child, so many things ran through my head. One is like, I would love to spend a couple hours chatting about this with you because I know that I can lead you to a place that is going to really give you some relief and maybe I can just, you know, offer that here today as well. But, you know, when you were saying like, you look back at the things that happened and it's just so sad and sometimes you just feel so sad, That's because you still believe that that's a reality. And the past is gone, Lindsay. It doesn't exist. It only exists in your mind. And it's now the stories that you keep telling yourself about the past that keep it, that energetic frequency of it alive in your body, alive in your cells, alive in your emotional being. Lisa Watson (16:16.24) What you can do when you do inner child work, you go back to your inner child, you can validate her pain, validate that it was difficult, validate that this sucked the way she was treated, the abuse, the abandonment, whatever it is that she experienced. But the important thing is you let her know it doesn't exist anymore. It literally does not exist. You can actually rewrite your history. I rewrote my entire childhood. So when I think back at my childhood, I don't think about all the things I didn't get or how horrible they are. I'm like, no, I was raised by so and so and so and so and I had this beautiful room and we had horses and I used to get breakfast with my parents every day. I'm like, that was our childhood. Because you can lie to yourself because you don't know the difference between fact or fiction. Imagination is our reality. That's why They do, you know, they've done tests with sports players like basketball, practicing free throws. You know, have the basketball players actually practicing live free throws and ones that are simply doing it mentally in their head. They've done this with weight lifting, all sorts of different things. The ones that are simply imagining it have just as good of results or super close to the ones that are actually practicing it. Your mind does not know Lyndsay Soprano (17:37.87) That's amazing. Lisa Watson (17:39.524) The difference, so you basically have to learn to gaslight yourself. Just like a narcissist may gaslight you or your parents gaslit you or your teachers gaslit you, right? We've been gaslit our whole life into telling us we're not good enough. No, that's not right. You shouldn't have. You're not this, you're not that. You're not safe to be your authentic self. Whatever the lies were that we've been told our entire life. shaped our belief system in the reality we were able to create for ourself. So start gaslighting yourself. Start telling yourself who you want to step into. You're already that person. So that little girl, when you think about her and she's sad and you're thinking, it's so sad. I went through so much stuff. It was so hard. You go to one like, baby, we're not there anymore. Where I got you now. Like you've you don't you don't. invalidate her by just saying like, get over it, don't worry, let's not think about it. You're like, that was really painful. That was horrible that dad or mom did this to us. But they're innocent. They were innocent to their behaviors to us because they were only products of their own programming. It was nothing personal. They could only treat us to a level that they knew how, how they were treated, how they knew how to give love and receive love. So it had nothing to do with us, nothing. And you tell her that it had nothing to do with you when mom got pissed and gave you a timeout for drawing on the couch. When you were true, when you thought you were just coloring a pretty picture, nothing to do with you. You were perfect and you were innocent and you were being authentic and you don't need to apologize for that. And we don't even need to be mad at mom. She just didn't know. that's so we're here now. I got you. I love you. Let's go draw. You know, and I'm going to take care of you. We don't have, we're not a child anymore. I don't have to ask permission. I get to make my own choices. You tell her that. We don't have to listen. We don't have to sleep in that room. We don't have to go to that person's house anymore. We don't have to give grandma hug if we don't want to. And you tell her that and you bring her up into this timeline and you let that sadness go. You just let it go. Lyndsay Soprano (19:49.272) Mm-hmm. Lisa Watson (19:57.678) She doesn't need to be sad anymore because she's not there. That event's over. You've got her now. We keep moving forward. Lyndsay Soprano (20:07.274) incredibly powerful and my mind's exploding right now because you are a mind exploder. the timing, I keep saying this, this season is so crazy. The people that are coming into my world, I know, not just for me, but for everybody that's listening too, I feel like we're attracting such amazing people that are affirming us. Lisa Watson (20:12.56) That's what I do. Lisa Watson (20:25.987) I love it. Lyndsay Soprano (20:37.774) to be authentic, to sit here and cry on camera, which I'm an ugly crier, by the way. But I do it very well. But I believe in everything that you just said, and it's never been said so eloquently, at least to me, for me to hear something like that, because I really am working on a lot of this inner child stuff. I'm really working on a lot of the past stuff that happened, tried to do this. Lisa Watson (20:45.227) I disagree with that. Lyndsay Soprano (21:07.394) the thing that you're saying, which is let it go. Like it is in the past, it's not you, it's just something that happened to you. And it's, my God, there's so many questions that I have. It's just, it's, I find it that it's sad that we even have to do this kind of work, but at the same time, we have to look at it more as from your perspective, like you're talking about how this is a gift, you know? That pain is happening for you. When you said that, I was like, whoa, that is a mind blowing statement to me. And I believe in that. And if you would have asked me this question two, three, four years ago, I would have been like, you are out of your mind. Not because I'm not a spiritual person, not because I don't believe in the woo woo or I believe in self help. I I have more damn books that I read about being a better woman, being a better sister, being a better daughter, being a better this. being better at who I want to be, you know, all of that. I mean, I'm all about all of that stuff as well. But man, the healing through inner child work is something that is like exactly where I've been heading. And it's amazing the timing of this conversation. And I'd like to talk, if you don't mind, if we can bridge into, you created this method of reparenting. And I'd like to talk about what how you work with people. Certainly everybody listening right now wants to know how you work with people now. Well done. I hope her phone is ringing off the hook after this episode. But if you can talk a little bit about how you work with people. And I know that's kind of a broad question, but you know, the best that we can hear for breaking cycles of trauma, you know, how do we do this inner child work? What does that look like? to get through these emotional roots of the pain that we are in. And a lot of this stuff has led to chronic pain and chronic illness. And we see it all the time, certainly on this show, and we see it so much in women. I'm not saying men that you don't experience it, but women tend to have a little bit more issues than men do in this department. Just turn on a True Crime Channel every night of your life and you'll see. Can you talk to us a little bit about how you work with us? Lyndsay Soprano (23:26.638) Work with a me. Talk about how you would work with me. Let's do that. I always liked being a guinea pig. I mean, don't know if like is the right word, but I'll be a guinea pig. Lisa Watson (23:31.695) Well... Lisa Watson (23:35.148) I've been my own guinea pig for this whole time. It's just, learned, that's how I figure this stuff out. I just do it on, I've got plenty of stuff to work with. The way that I work with people, so the, the reparenting method, I broke it down to like six pillars of, you know, what we work on awakening, where you just, the veil lifts, you begin to question. Lyndsay Soprano (23:38.126) You Yeah, beautiful. I'm so happy you're here. Lisa Watson (24:00.686) the identity or stories and survival strategies that you live by. This is the recognition that there's more and that you're more than just this body. So that's important. And then we work on awareness. You just start to observe your triggers, your inner voices, your emotional patterns, your body responses, your courier, absolutely everything about yourself with no judgment. You're just. in observation state. Awareness, it creates the space between reaction and choice. It's really the beginning of the healing process and the beginning of freedom. And then responsibility. We work on taking your power back, not through blame or shame, but through what I was saying. This is happening for you by owning your reality, owning your inner world, just owning the programs that are now in this avatar of yours. You didn't program yourself. You didn't make yourself feel unworthy or not deserving. You didn't traumatize yourself. But those are the programs that are now in this avatar, and they're your responsibility now. And blaming anyone for them. It's like getting a computer that... that has a virus or whatever, it's just like, okay, well, I don't know where the virus came from, but it's not working. I'm gonna dump this program. I need to put in a new one. I'm just gonna take responsibility for this thing that I have, and I'm just gonna stop blaming anybody for why it's not working. Let's just start fixing stuff. That's super important. Nervous system, wellness and integration is critical. Lyndsay Soprano (25:34.627) Yeah. Lisa Watson (25:40.688) This is really where the healing becomes embodied. learn to regulate your nervous system, honor your physical body, feel safe inside your own vessel. And it's so critical the way that we treat our physical vessel, you know, from the things that we're eating, putting into it, you know, getting out in nature, so much of the nervous system regulation. And we work on lots of self-empowerment skills like boundaries, you know, we're looking at people pleasing behaviors, codependency, choices, responding, like all the tools that are involved. And then it's really about acceptance and surrender, like learning how to be more like water, you know, we're just accepting our reality, we're not trying to resist against it, we can't change what we can't change. I've been listening to this book, the past couple of days by Michael Singer called the the surrender experiment. He wrote The Untethered Soul and some other books. Great book. It's called The Surrender Experiment. And I just love it. It's basically a biography of his autobiography. But it's just it's so powerful when you understand like there's everything's just more about Lyndsay Soprano (26:50.282) yeah. Lisa Watson (27:08.176) preferences that we have like, you it starts to rain and we're mad because we would prefer it not rain. We're about to have a picnic, but you can't do anything about it. So it's just like learning how to accept and look for. like to say, you know, where God closes a door, opens a window sort of thing. Like, okay, that door closed. Like where's the window going to be? And we're just always looking for that because we know it must be happening for us. There must be something beautiful here or it wouldn't be happening. It's going to bring us home to ourselves eventually. So that's really how I work with clients, like just going through those steps. I like to work with clients one-on-one. It's really what I'm doing right now. I am building some online courses at this time, but I just launched a program called Sacred Reboot. It's a three month. program where we work once a week for 12 weeks in a row and that's really important because consistency is really important. And we just start going through these things. And I say, like to use your life. Your life is your greatest guru. Your current triggers, what's happening for you right now is the mirror. It's mirroring back to you where you need to look and. I have this ability to be able to find root programs that are running just through your, what's going on in your life. Like you're telling me about your life right now. Like I've got 25 people out there and they're doing this and doing that. In my mind, I see so many other things happening, like why you're creating that reality for yourself. there's just so much more because nothing's happening to you. You're actually the creator of all of it. And like, right. Lyndsay Soprano (28:51.454) 100%. 100%, this is my fault. But what I'm doing, and a good thing, yeah, that's not the right word for it, but it is. I'm in this place right now that I have been working very hard to get to. And I didn't really realize all of the steps that I was taking to get where I am right now and the amount of work that it has taken to get me here. And I'm trying to... Lisa Watson (28:53.272) And so why are we? Lisa Watson (28:58.466) And there's no fault. Yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (29:19.106) honor myself a little bit better and to give myself hugs a little bit more and take more time for myself. And I love that you use to feel more like water, be more like water, whatever phrase that you use there, because with my body and my current state, which I don't believe that I'm gonna stay like this for the rest of my life, is the only way that I really get the best healing and exercise for my body is getting in water. And so I swim every day. And... So I wake up in the morning and I do my thing. get everybody doing what they need to be doing. And then I take time for myself and I go and I swim. I'm not just in there doing laps like an Olympic swimmer or something like that. I am dancing in there. I'm listening to music. I've got my swim jam playlist that I listen to that has everything from, know, Eminem to, you know, some sacred harp music. And I'm just, I swim through it all. And I get out a lot of really interesting stuff when I am in water. It's weird. it's almost as if my pain is gone. It's my happy place now. And I love that visual of trying to move through life like you're with water. It's just the most beautiful feeling. And I get to do that every single day. That is amazing. Like not everybody gets to wake up and do their life the way that they want to. That's what I'm doing. That's not too bad. Yeah. Lisa Watson (30:43.088) You're in flow and water is extremely powerful. It's extremely powerful and water is also like energy. It's like we're energetic beings. So we wanna be like a raging river. We wanna make sure that we've called all our energy back to us so that we can be like this force of nature just like flowing down the mountain, like crashing over rocks and taking corners like this because we have power and force. But what we end up doing is we become people pleasers and we're codependent and we're not confident. And so we're thinking about the past, we're worrying about the future. And what that does is it takes our energy and it creates these little, you know, brooks and streams and things off of this raging river. And we no longer have a raging river. Now we've got this little, you know, brook going, this little trickle and it can barely get over the rock. And anytime something happens, it's like, my gosh, this is so big. Lyndsay Soprano (31:33.624) little trickles. Lyndsay Soprano (31:37.505) Right. Lisa Watson (31:41.2) No, it's not so big. It's just because you've given your energy away to so many other things. I do want to tell you an analogy that I have because it came to me in kind of like a download, if you want to say sort of thing, more of a remembering, I like to say, I guess, of why do we have to do this work? You know, it's like, Lyndsay Soprano (31:41.878) I don't wanna be a puddle. I don't wanna be a puddle. Lisa Watson (32:10.018) Why bad things happen to good people? Why do I have to go through all this pain? Like this just doesn't seem right. Okay, here's what the information I received about this, okay? We're living in a simulation. Okay. This has basically been proven by not basically it's been proven by quantum physics. There is, it's a holographic reality that we live in that we're projecting. There's nothing actually happening outside of us. And I like to see us as like, okay, it's a video game and we're avatars in this video game that we're the writers of. We're the creators of. Okay. But, why are we here? What are we doing? Okay. Well, originally we were 12 strand angelic. God human, God beings, right? But they dumbed us down to two strands of DNA. It's been proven by science, we have two strands of DNA, not 10, not 12, but that's not natural. And as we go through this ascension process, what we've been going through energetically as a planet since we've moved into this age of Aquarius is our other DNA is becoming activated. So some people may have four, five, six, seven, eight, even nine strands of DNA activated now. That's, we've been hybridized, okay, down to these two strand beings. The way that it was given to me in this remembering is think of life as like a motherboard, like a computer board, okay? And at one time it was all just, love was all there is, okay? If God is, God is energy. Source, call it what you want. Source of this all creation is energy. Everything is made up of energy. So we can think of God of being like an atom, right? And everything's made up of these atoms. Absolutely everything is this God force energy, whether you deem it to be good or bad, everything is made up of this same energy, right? And at one time, it's like this board was all just love, like this energy was love. Lisa Watson (34:17.282) And the way that I understand it, it was infiltrated by a virus, which was fear. So fear started getting pumped through this system, right? You can see it. And that's how the controllers of this planet who hybridized us down to these two DNA strand beings, that's how they keep control of us. They keep control of us through fear, through keeping us sick, through keeping us suppressed and not knowing who we truly are. that we are actually creators of form. We can take energy and create form. We can create our own reality through our thoughts, through our choices. And so there's this fear running through the program. I believe that a lot of us, we've come here like yourself and me to take on these belief systems, these fear-based belief systems. We took them on through our experiences, okay? Through abuse, through neglect, through all sorts of experiences. We adopted during these first seven years when our belief systems were being formed, we took on these negative fear, based beliefs. Okay. Those negative fear based beliefs are the root of your pain. Essentially the root of there's there's like a conflict between knowing that you are all that there is and this fear based virus that's trying to tell you that you're not you're just this body and you're you know you're susceptible for things and you should be scared and worried and all that when that's not the reality of the reality is I actually create this reality there's nothing for me to be afraid of at all. but we had to take the fear on in order to alchemize it. And I believe that that's what we're doing here and that's why it's happening for us. That I took on the neglect, I took on the abandonment, I took on the narcissistic abuse in my life so that I could alchemize it through my energy field into love. I took it on. Lisa Watson (36:24.686) so that I could then take responsibility for it and say, okay, it's almost like a magnet. I came in, I was magnetized to it, it brought it to me, and now I get to say, I'm going to release it. And you know how we get rid of fear? We stop giving it energy. It's literally that simple. What you don't feed will die. What you don't give attention to will die. So as I was saying before, when you're going back to that little girl and you're thinking, it was so sad and it was this, Lyndsay Soprano (36:39.79) Ugh. I know. Lisa Watson (36:53.626) No, don't buy into that fear. Don't buy into that limited belief. Alchemize that into love. And you let her know that it was not for nothing. We're literally extracting it from this reality by taking it on and alchemizing it and letting it go. By forgiving it because it actually never happened. The past is gone. It's now just a thought. We only have the now moment. Love is all there is. I learned this in the course of miracles when I was 17, that the opposite of love is fear, but what is all encompassing can have no opposite. Herein lies the peace of God. There is only love. Fear only exists when we turn our attention to it, when we allow it to disrupt our peace. It's like, you know, they tell you when you're with a narcissist, maybe you know this, maybe you don't, to gray rock them. Lyndsay Soprano (37:48.76) I was married to one. Lisa Watson (37:51.012) Right? Do know what gray rocking is? Lyndsay Soprano (37:52.728) No, I don't. It sounds amazing. Lisa Watson (37:56.536) The only way to deal with a narcissist is to stop feeding it. So when they're poking at you, when they're trying to get a reaction out of you, when they're making mountains out of molehills, you give them nothing. Nothing. You don't give them any sort of a reaction. You literally change the subject, walk away. You just don't respond. You stop texting back. That's how I ended up getting a divorce. I finally decided, you know what, I'm just not gonna... Lyndsay Soprano (38:00.504) Yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (38:07.534) Yeah. Yeah. Lisa Watson (38:25.68) care of what he cares. I'm not going to care anymore. I'm just going to stop reacting to the fear. I'm just going to be me and see what happens. It was so uncomfortable to him that he literally filed for divorce in an effort. I think to take that he was going to get me to be like, you're going to want your man back. He literally Lyndsay Soprano (38:28.803) Yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (38:37.857) Yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (38:43.214) He's like, wait a second, you're not giving me water anymore. You're not giving me any food. You're not giving me the reaction that I want out of you. You're not responding. I have somebody in my life who I actually have done this with right now and it's been very good. I was like, oh man, he just probably, I love that I'm not responding to any of his really terrible behavior and how he treats myself and his children. And it's like, oh my God, it's so nice to not feed because it's been so. And it's been completely silent. He's like, well, I'm not getting anything out her anymore. I guess I gotta move on. Move on to somebody else. Yeah. Lisa Watson (39:19.608) And that's how we deal with fear. That's literally how we deal with fear. So yes, everything is happening for you. Is it uncomfortable? Yes. Is it difficult and challenging? Yes. But we need, it's just, I like to think of life as just, it's just a classroom, it's just a lab, it's a PhD program. You're going into this experience. Lyndsay Soprano (39:31.105) Yeah. Lisa Watson (39:45.828) to learn the tools that you need, to remember who you are, to learn how to alchemize, to learn how to gray rock and not let fear run your life. That's the only reason we're doing it. It's just a game. It's just a dream. It's just an experience. Like we give it way too much seriousness. It's not that serious. Lyndsay Soprano (40:07.842) I was just gonna say, it's like we take life too seriously when it comes to that kind of stuff, you know? mean, this isn't like everybody just go do anything you want to kind of a conversation either, not expect like, don't go, you know, randomly jumping off of the cliff because you feel like that's something that's freeing, like don't hit your head on a boulder. Lisa Watson (40:27.44) Be love, like that's really easy. Just be kind and love yourself, okay? Like would it be kind and loving to your body to damage or hurt it? No, so we're not gonna do that. We're going to act, we're going to act out of love and kindness. But yes, go be your authentic self. Yes, quit your job and go backpack around. Lyndsay Soprano (40:32.834) Mm-hmm. Lyndsay Soprano (40:41.537) Right. Lisa Watson (40:52.846) the world if that's what you feel like doing, even if all your friends think it's crazy and you're, you you have to get a divorce to do it, but it's you what you want to do, then go do it. Live this life for you. I think you just remind, I just was reminded that that is one of the big epiphany moments I had in my many awakenings that I've had. One of them was that I didn't come here to live someone else's life. Lyndsay Soprano (41:21.806) Hmm. Lisa Watson (41:22.156) It dawned on me after probably like 20 years in my marriage that I didn't come here to make his life better. I didn't come here to fix you. Like I know you had a worse childhood than I did. And, and I was compassionate to his behavior because of his awful upbringing and my in-laws and my work. was clear that things weren't good. And so I had compassion for that. And, but I felt like I took it on as a responsibility. Like it was my job now to make your life easier, to help you to emotionally regulate and you poor baby. I'm like, I'm not your mother. I wasn't born into this reality to take care of you. I came here to do this for me. And so that was the beginning of like, okay, if I came here for me, what is it that I really want? I mean, Lyndsay Soprano (41:51.822) Yeah. Lisa Watson (42:15.086) Lindsay, I was in my late 30s, early 40s before I ever started even asking myself this question and have had all this spiritual training. Like there was some, you know, like still this programming of this patriarch reality that we live in, especially for women believing that I was put here on this planet to serve men somehow. Like it was so deeply conditioned in me. I was in my 40s before I even realized this was my life. Lyndsay Soprano (42:29.422) Yeah, yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (42:45.902) Like you, wow, I could like rattle off 17,000 things that I agree with with everything that you said. it's just making me reflect back on I'm 100 % of a people pleaser. And I absolutely was that person with my ex-husband. I was the person that was gonna save him. I was the person that was gonna take care of him. I was the person that was gonna get him out of his situation. I was in all of that. And then I was like, I don't even have anything left. Like I have nothing left to give, nothing. I have been drained. of every single ounce of my ability, all of the dreams, all the things I wanted to do, all the places I wanted to go, all I ended up doing was taking care of him and all of the money that I made went towards that as well. His dreams, his car projects, his this, his that, all of it. And then it was like, wait a second, hold on, Lindsay doesn't have Lindsay at all anymore. And in fact, I'm recording an episode right after this with somebody that this... Camp again, the season is insane. All of these people, all these conversations are like literally flowing like water right into the next. And I'm distributing the episodes in the exact order that they're coming in. And it is like, it's so powerful. It is so incredible. It's really great. Lisa Watson (44:01.026) It is. It is. When you step into your purpose, when you start focusing on yourself, when you have, I say, full allegiance to your own inner child, to your own authenticity, to your own needs, to your own joy, life does start to flow like water. There's this book, Ask, and it is given by, you know, Abraham Hicks, Bester Hicks. Lyndsay Soprano (44:04.451) Yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (44:22.702) amazing. Lisa Watson (44:31.288) I've been listening to her since when she still had her husband and Jerry and Esther and they were doing all their things. I was like 40 years ago. I used to listen to every time I'd read a book or I would get it like read it and then listen to it on Audible. And I had like an hour drive to work for many years for a long time. And I will listen to the same book literally sometimes like 12 times in a row just because. It just is the way my brain worked. Like I just wanted to keep hearing it. And every time I heard it, I would hear something different, you know, because you're paying attention to the one thing. So you're not listening to the next maybe. So I listened to ask and it is given at least I'm guessing, but probably at least 12 times in a row. And the one thing that I kept hearing and I was still married at the time I kept hearing was that your North star is your joy. Lyndsay Soprano (45:05.514) sure, sure, yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (45:11.507) wow. Lisa Watson (45:20.622) and that all you have to do is follow your joy and that is your guiding light of your life. Like it's your authentic self. That authentic self is that God spark in you. That authentic self is that inner child and all you have to do is follow your joy. And it hit me like a punch in the face one day. I was like, so I have to get a divorce because there's no way for me to follow my joy in this dynamic because he's too controlling and that just couldn't work. And that like, I'd been wanting to get a divorce for, I don't know, 24 years. It's like the moment I got there. No, like literally no joke. That's a whole nother story. It's okay, it's okay. And I was working, I worked for Nordstrom for a long time and I was... Lyndsay Soprano (46:04.012) of 27. Lyndsay Soprano (46:09.704) my gosh. Not to make light of it, but God. Yeah. Lisa Watson (46:18.948) working at Northstone at the time and I was sitting outside one of the stores at one of their cafes the same day. It was around Christmas time and I'm sitting out having a cup of coffee on my break and I look over and there's this big wall next to me and it's Christmas time at the mall and there's this massive word joy that they put up on the wall, you know, with their ornaments and stuff and I just looked over. Lyndsay Soprano (46:37.102) Christmas paper wrapping, I can see it now. Yeah, I love Nordies. Lisa Watson (46:45.004) I looked over and I was like, my God, yeah, that's my sign. And then that just, you know, that's where I just started. Like that was my process into getting a divorce. I was just like, okay, that's what I'm gonna do. I'm just gonna start doing what I wanna do, which was extremely difficult, because there was a lot of fear in it and there was anger issues and stuff like that. But I'm just like. Lyndsay Soprano (47:09.454) Mm-hmm. Lisa Watson (47:10.436) I'm just gonna start doing what I wanna do. And it was a complete 180 from the way I had used to be. Like I didn't think about, my husband's coming home. Is the house clean? Do I need to make him lunch? Is all the laundry folded? Is like life absolutely perfect around here? And I was just like, what do I feel like doing? Like, I think I'm gonna smoke some weed and watch a movie. Not anything I've ever done. And I'm sitting on the couch smoking weed, watching a movie and my husband walks in and he's, you know, a little... Lyndsay Soprano (47:30.062) Oh my God, I love that. Lisa Watson (47:40.174) like he had to control everything and me all the time. So he's like, you want to go on a hike? And I was like, no, I'm good. And then he would ask me what you want to go do this or do that. And I'm like, no, I'm good. Like I'm smoke. I'm high watching a movie right now. Like, can you not see that? Lyndsay Soprano (47:56.334) I'm doing pretty good, bro. Lisa Watson (47:59.098) But after 20, this was like 27 years into a relationship with him, he was probably thinking, who the hell is this in my living room? Like she's never not jumped for me before, you know? And our sons were grown at the time. My older son was actually working at his business that he had with them. And even though I told him like, we don't talk about this thing, like our relationship with our kids, like we're not talking about that. He did it anyway. And so my son comes to me, he's like, yeah, was like complaining. He's like, Yeah, I come home the other day and she's like smoking weed, watching a movie and she wouldn't even do anything with me. She wouldn't go on a hike. She didn't want to go shopping. She didn't want to go out to eat. And my son goes, dad, if I was home smoking weed, watching a movie, I wouldn't want you to bother me either. Like, why can't you just, he's like, why can't you just leave her alone? Like, is that just okay? And I'm sure his mind was just blown because I'd never required that before. Lyndsay Soprano (48:44.558) It's not that difficult. Lisa Watson (48:57.808) I never did. wasn't, he wasn't the problem. I was the problem. I was the one that wasn't showing up for me. I was the one that was allowing fear to rule my life. And that's what I finally realized. And I was still too chicken to say I want a divorce, but it literally only took a couple of weeks. And he was so uncomfortable by it that he used it as a threat. And then it ended up backfiring on him. Lyndsay Soprano (48:59.927) Ew. Lyndsay Soprano (49:03.95) Ugh. Lyndsay Soprano (49:27.63) Yeah, they love they love to do those things. my gosh. Well, I'm I well, for starters, thank you so much for a being who you are and B, I've never taken this many scrupulous notes during an episode as I have on this one. I've been scribbling over here like crazy. I've got more books to read and Amazon. I can't wait. But man, I Lisa Watson (49:33.424) crazy. Lyndsay Soprano (49:58.121) Thank you. For starters, I major fear and safety issues. I mean, don't think that there's anybody that could be honest with themselves and truly think that they feel completely safe and fearless, right? I mean, maybe there's a couple of people out there, kudos to you. But I know that in my household, both my husband and myself, we both have different fear and different safety issues. They come from two completely different places. But it's a conversation, in fact, we had last night that I was just like, this stuff, we've got to stop. We both are, you're feeding yours, I'm feeding mine, I'm feeding yours, you're feeding mine. We're just like in a feeding frenzy. It's like shark with a bunch of just being thrown in the ocean, you know? And it's like, let's just swim in the ocean instead of trying to like attack all of the stuff that's coming at us, all the things that we don't even know about that might be coming. That's anxiety too, is worrying about what's coming up in the future when you're like, you don't even know what's gonna happen in the future. Like, come on, man. And then worrying about the things that have to us, which we cannot change. And it's like, be here now, you know, be here now and have the courage to do that. And I'm speaking to myself as well as all of you, because it is a courageous thing to be able to do. Is it easy? No. Is it? Well, I don't know. I mean, some parts are probably going to be. I have already written off a couple of things on my list right now. Just listening to you where I'm like, I don't even know why that why I am fearful of that. And I'm just sitting here and I just wrote a list and then I crossed it off. Lisa Watson (50:57.443) Yes! Lyndsay Soprano (51:22.23) I'm like, I'm not gonna be fearful of that anymore. It's the silliest of things sometimes, you know, that just stop us in our tracks. And then there's always also the biggies, but man, you definitely have given me a lot of things to think about today, my love. Lisa Watson (51:36.962) You know, Lindsay, I cut me off if you want to, but can I share another little story with you? Lyndsay Soprano (51:42.932) Sure, sure, we're getting close on time though just because I have two more after you. But sure, yeah, absolutely. Don't make it too quick, yeah. Lisa Watson (51:46.324) okay, I'll make it quick. It's a personal epiphany that I had yesterday and I think it's really important to share. Mm-hmm, yesterday. Okay, so I've been scaling my coaching business. I've been working on writing children's books. I've been kind all over the place and moved to Mexico and lots of things. But finally I'm like, I'm working more, honing in on working with women and the sacred reboot and everything. Lyndsay Soprano (51:52.982) Okay, let's do it. Yesterday. Okay. Lisa Watson (52:13.76) and I had a social media manager and then I got rid of it and I've got a business coach now and I've got all this stuff going on. So I've had to be building this website and getting into social media like doing it myself, like the stories, the reels, the TikTok, all the stuff, right? I don't have a virtual assistant. I'm doing everything on my own. I have noticed through observing myself that I go into freeze mode when I get overwhelmed, okay? It's like... Lyndsay Soprano (52:29.24) Yeah. Lisa Watson (52:41.184) What I've recognized about myself, it's like there's too many tabs open. Like my husband's super intelligent and he can have a million tabs on his computer open and know where all they are exactly. that's not me. Like I'm good with like two tabs and then I start to get a little overwhelmed. And so I realized I was working with chat on some like social media stuff and like how to make it streamline and easy as far as the and the scheduling and you know, the Canva and the later and all this stuff you gotta use, right? And I'm sitting there talking to chat GPT and he's like, okay, Lisa, we're just gonna do this, this, this, and this. And I'm like, I feel so overwhelmed right now. Like again, like I can feel myself going into freeze mode where when that happens, I lock up. I can't even work anymore. Like I literally, my nervous system gets dysregulated and it's taking me years, eight. Lyndsay Soprano (53:14.84) Yep. Lisa Watson (53:36.378) Good eight years I've been observing myself, right? And I realized yesterday, I'm like, my nervous system is just out of whack when I start thinking about having to do all this stuff by myself. And I'm like, I wonder why that is. And I realized it was directly related to my childhood because I had been essentially left to raise myself at such a small age without telling my life story. It doesn't really matter, but there was so much put on me to survive on my own. I never had anyone to really fall back on. I really didn't have parents. My parents were divorced. My mother was an alcoholic, blah, blah. I didn't have anyone. It was always on me. And I realized that this social media stuff or like all the tabs open when it's like, okay, you gotta go later and then you gotta go to Canva and then you gotta go to Google Docs and then you gotta go do this and this and that. And then I'm just like, my God, that's too much. I can't do any of that. And I'm... I'm an intelligent woman. I've done that homeschooled my kids, like I've run businesses, like I can do that, right? And in my mind, I know that I'm like, but Lisa, you can do that. So why are you frozen? And I realized it was because of that inner child thing. It was a reminder that I didn't feel safe. I didn't feel supported. I felt like I was on my own and it was too overwhelming. And it made my nervous system, you know, react. Lyndsay Soprano (54:37.474) You think? Lisa Watson (55:02.616) And so when I realized that yesterday, it shifted everything because I'm like, it's not about the social media. It's not about me not being smart enough or organized enough or focused enough. Or even like these labels of ADHD, has nothing to do with ADHD or anything. It has to do with my nervous system. And this is a reminder that I was put into positions when I was little, when I shouldn't have been put into these positions of having to take care of too many things and being responsible for my own well-being, whether it was getting my own food or my own clothes or getting myself to school on time or whatever it was, everything was on me. And now when I get overwhelmed, I just get to look at my inner child and I say, hey baby, it's okay, let's just go slow. We'll just do one thing at a time. Like, you're not dumb. There's nothing wrong with you. We're just a little overwhelmed. And now I can manage that better without seeing it as being something that's kind of like happening to me or wrong with me. It's more, no, it was just me calling myself home. This anxiety was me trying to get myself back home to myself to see where my nervous system still needed some work, you know, where my inner child still needed some love and safety. Lyndsay Soprano (56:27.394) I definitely understand overwhelm. Like big time, I feel overwhelmed every day of my life and I'm getting better about how I handle it. But when it comes to all the social media and all the marketing stuff and all the tabs up and all that, that is my world. And so I have two browser windows open at one given time and their one browser window is all the things that I need to do for my podcast and pain and guests and all of that. The other is all the other stuff I'm doing because we're under construction, we're having a big party, and we're doing all these so first world problems that are going on around here right now. But nonetheless, there's still problems. And so I've given myself these two separate ways. when I needed like super focus, where that overwhelm comes in, because I get, I'm like, oh my gosh, I've got a million things in my, my sweetie, he freaking interrupts me 27,000 times a day with another thing that needs to be on my list of things to do. like, I know you already told me it's on my document. Okay. I already have it's in Google docs. And, It's been helpful for me to kind of compartmentalize a little bit more than I used to because I was always like multitasking and doing everything. And now I do things more in batches, which has been very helpful for me and my brain and my focus because being a little bit on the neurodivergent side of things, I like to have headphones on my ears. I like to block out the noise. I like to block out all the things that are going on around me because I know that there's 25 people at my house right now and I cannot believe how good I have done. Because this whole before I got on, was like, my gosh, this is going to be hard for me because I'm going to hear the dogs barking. I'm going to hear the guy shoveling outside of the studio window. wait, there's two people shoveling outside of my studio window and I'm seeing them walking back and forth. And I usually completely get derailed and like lose complete focus. And I wasn't I didn't do that today. Maybe it's just because it's you. Lisa Watson (58:14.544) congratulations but that alone like looking at that and being like why why do why is it that what you know why do i feel this way and what choices do i have right now and how can i be more kind and gentle with myself and how can i recognize that there's a part of me right now that needs me it doesn't need me to tell it to get over it it doesn't need me to say just work harder maybe you need to focus just go get another cup of coffee you'll be good Lyndsay Soprano (58:18.136) Yeah. Now, why am I doing that? Mm-hmm. Lisa Watson (58:42.52) No, it needs me to validate how it feels and to be compassionate and saying, yeah, this can be overwhelming. Or maybe this is reminding us of a time when too much was put on us at a young age when it shouldn't have been put on us. And then I tell my inner child that we're just not there anymore and I'm in charge now. And if this is too much for us, then let's just break it down. Let's just do one thing today. Let's just make it simple. Like you're the most important thing to me. Hold allegiance to your inner child. She needs to be the most important thing to you. Her emotional regulation needs to be the most important thing, period. Lyndsay Soprano (59:23.726) We're gonna leave with that one, that's for sure. my God, girlfriend. Well, obviously you and I can talk for the rest. I feel like I say this sometimes with my guests. I'm just like, my gosh, I wanna talk to you for the rest of day. But you know, you and I hit it off immediately. Well, this one is not only a hottie totty. She moved down to Mexico and she does not, I had no idea that you were older than me. I thought you were younger than me, by the way. So I don't know, I'm looking in some funky mirrors. Lisa Watson (59:26.052) I like it. Lisa Watson (59:52.24) Ha ha ha ha Lyndsay Soprano (59:53.998) Sometimes I feel like I'm in those weird like, you know, fun zones where you've got like all the weird mirrors and you're seeing things in such a distorted version of yourself, you know? my goodness gracious. All right, well, where can we find you? I mean, you're all over the place, but where's the best way that we can find you? Lisa Watson (01:00:11.92) My website is reparent-yourself.com. That's where you can find what I'm about and links to everything. I'm on TikTok, I'm on Instagram as Reparent Yourself. I also have this passion project of writing children's books that help so that the next generation won't have to unravel all these, you know, disempowering beliefs that we did and learn emotional regulation from a very young age during when the subconscious mind is being formed. So that's awakentheone.org. My first book is coming out shortly. It's actually will be out I think when this podcast is out. Yeah, it's a children's book. Courage Finds its Calm, but it's great for adults too. Many adults tell me I needed that too. Like, that's perfect. Lyndsay Soprano (01:00:47.05) It will, it will. It's a children's book, correct? Yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (01:00:56.75) Well, sometimes we don't, like, I mean, we read these books that are like 350 pages long, and sometimes I'm like, come on, just give it to me like a kid. This is the work we're doing. We should go back to reading children's books, quite frankly. Lisa Watson (01:01:08.374) Agreed, yeah, just the simplicity of it. Lyndsay Soprano (01:01:09.55) Right. Like the book, Everybody Poops. I think that that is a one that everybody understands. my gosh. It's very simple and straightforward. my gosh, Lisa. Thank you so much for your time today. I'm going to put all of our information in show notes and in social media, of course, and in our email marketing stuff about our book. All of that. This has just been well, I knew it was going to be awesome talking to you. And you obviously will be talking to me after this episode. Lisa Watson (01:01:16.867) Simple. Lyndsay Soprano (01:01:35.054) because this little inner child needs some work. That was clear today. It was already clear before this episode, but you brought up so many amazing things that I need to work on. I'm sure our listeners do, but it doesn't make me feel so scared after leaving today. So thank you for that. I appreciate it. Lisa Watson (01:01:52.282) That's awesome. And reach out to me. My sacred reboot program, like how I like to work with clients is really one-on-one. I call it real-time healing. It's where we get, you know, we've healed in safe relationships. So I like to provide that safe relationship for people, because that's where I see the real healing happen when you have a real live person that is there for you, holding you accountable, loving you, not judging you. walking you through this. That's where we see the most movement. And I know lots of coaches are out there wanting to make their, you know, money and sell these high impact programs and quick and not put so many appointments on their schedule, but I just, I'm not there yet. I get the most results with one-to-one clients and that's how I'm working with people right now. So, cause it works. Lyndsay Soprano (01:02:42.542) And I love that one-to-one is what we need in these kinds of spaces, especially when you come from a lot of the backgrounds and a lot of people that you work with have come from. So thank you again for your time. I really appreciate it. I will be in touch, my love. You are exclusively invited to share this smoking weed on the couch, watching a movie, VIP pain journey together. Let's get to the heart of how to heal with you by my side. Lisa Watson (01:02:45.84) Mm-hmm. Lisa Watson (01:02:49.644) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Lisa Watson (01:03:05.648) Hmm. 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