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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to the Garden America Show, the country's most to
- 0:04Speaker 1: listen to gardening program. This is your chance to join
- 0:07Speaker 1: us as we talk about gardening, horticulture, landscaping, in fact,
- 0:11Speaker 1: anything that has to do with the world of gardening.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Now here's Brian Maine, John Bagnasco, and Tiger Palafox on
- 0:18Speaker 1: the Garden America Radio and Media Network.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Again. We made it. We're on the air.
- 0:23Speaker 3: We're broadcasting live from Tiger's house in San Diego, California.
- 0:27Speaker 3: By the way, this is Guarden America. Sometimes we do
- 0:30Speaker 3: an intro where we come back from a break and
- 0:31Speaker 3: we fail to mention for those that are new to
- 0:34Speaker 3: the show or what's going on, that we are Garden America.
- 0:37Speaker 3: But John, that sounds good. John's got the audio turned
- 0:40Speaker 3: up on this phone. We are ready to go.
- 0:41Speaker 4: That's how I know everything is good.
- 0:43Speaker 3: It's good exactly. Yes, Welcome Garden America. I'm Brian Maine,
- 0:46Speaker 3: John Bgnasco, Tiger Palafox from the What you see in
- 0:49Speaker 3: the background is Tiger's backyard. We'll have more on that
- 0:52Speaker 3: later on as we get real detailed into all the
- 0:55Speaker 3: plant material.
- 0:56Speaker 4: John, what if you're just listening on the radio, or.
- 1:00Speaker 2: You're talking about our good friends on BIS talk Radio.
- 1:02Speaker 4: That's right, you know what, because they're not watching this,
- 1:05Speaker 4: but they can go watch it, right.
- 1:06Speaker 2: They can.
- 1:07Speaker 3: They can watch it on our Facebook page Garden America
- 1:10Speaker 3: Radio Show, or if they prefer, while they're listening on
- 1:13Speaker 3: BIS Talk Radio. They can do what we call theater
- 1:16Speaker 3: of the mind. They can imagine, Well, you're gonna have
- 1:19Speaker 3: to be descriptive of what his backyard and John's gonna
- 1:23Speaker 3: name every plant for in a while.
- 1:25Speaker 4: No, no, Tiger will have to do that.
- 1:28Speaker 2: We're good to go.
- 1:29Speaker 5: We're good.
- 1:31Speaker 3: I just tell you whenever it's funny because whenever John
- 1:34Speaker 3: and I go on and on and on and we
- 1:35Speaker 3: don't hear from Tiger and I try to read his
- 1:38Speaker 3: body language, uh huh, and I couldn't read it this time,
- 1:41Speaker 3: so I just say, what's going on?
- 1:42Speaker 2: We could all right?
- 1:45Speaker 4: The the newsletter this week if you get the newsletter.
- 1:49Speaker 4: First of all, if you don't get the how do
- 1:51Speaker 4: you get the newsletter? It's very complicated, isn't it. I
- 1:53Speaker 4: don't know. I don't honestly don't. I think you can
- 1:57Speaker 4: just go to Gardenamerica dot com and click on sign
- 2:02Speaker 4: up for the news slides.
- 2:03Speaker 2: Why do we ask for people's social security? Did we
- 2:06Speaker 2: stop doing that?
- 2:07Speaker 4: We don't do that anymore. Always ask All we asked
- 2:11Speaker 4: for now is a American Express creditor.
- 2:16Speaker 2: No, that's nice. No, it's free.
- 2:18Speaker 4: It's absolutely you can go to our website garden as
- 2:21Speaker 4: you say, it's absolutely free and worth every penny, every penny.
- 2:25Speaker 4: But we wrote an I wrote an article this week
- 2:29Speaker 4: about Tiger's garden in his theory of garden. And I
- 2:34Speaker 4: don't know if Tiger's going to join us here, but
- 2:37Speaker 4: I wanted him to range thank you for that. That's
- 2:43Speaker 4: how you know it's live, Brian. But I wanted Tiger
- 2:45Speaker 4: to explain that article a little bit and what his
- 2:53Speaker 4: theory of gardening is, because what I like about Tiger
- 2:57Speaker 4: is he gives you permission to do almost anything if
- 3:02Speaker 4: you enjoy doing it, right, Tiger, exactly what now?
- 3:05Speaker 2: Plain there? Give your permission to do anything you like
- 3:08Speaker 2: if you enjoy well, I mean.
- 3:13Speaker 6: You no constraints in the garden design or what you're doing.
- 3:18Speaker 4: No demand, no demand.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Right, So there you go, just.
- 3:25Speaker 5: A little bit up or down?
- 3:29Speaker 6: Yeah, a little it's a little survival of the fitness,
- 3:34Speaker 6: you know, because I will plant plants where the right
- 3:40Speaker 6: I think they can throw, but doesn't mean they're going
- 3:41Speaker 6: to have the irrigation. I will plant plants that I didn't.
- 3:55Speaker 4: Right, it doesn't have to be uh an overarching design
- 3:59Speaker 4: that you have to it here too. Yeah, if you
- 4:01Speaker 4: like the plant, you'll just find a spot for it,
- 4:03Speaker 4: right that, you know what that's that is so funny.
- 4:05Speaker 3: You mentioned back in the nineties when I had a
- 4:08Speaker 3: lot of property, big houses, I had a four door
- 4:14Speaker 3: dev not an issue fee. I'd go to homekeeper. I
- 4:18Speaker 3: would buy plants. I had no idea what therea I
- 4:21Speaker 3: liked it. I would stuff them in my home, panta wherever,
- 4:27Speaker 3: really giving no thought to sunlight, no thought to location,
- 4:31Speaker 3: no thought to water.
- 4:33Speaker 6: And.
- 4:36Speaker 3: Because I didn't know enough to be game, I just
- 4:40Speaker 3: kind of let it. That may not work for everybody,
- 4:43Speaker 3: but it's kind of what Tiger's saying. Maybe the irrigation
- 4:46Speaker 3: is not quite there, but I liked it and go
- 4:49Speaker 3: for it because is there.
- 4:50Speaker 2: A right and wrong?
- 4:52Speaker 4: And you went right from that too. I ought to
- 4:54Speaker 4: do a gardening show right from that.
- 4:57Speaker 3: I told you the story about Bruce Asakawa and I
- 5:00Speaker 3: we're talking about the same thing years ago.
- 5:06Speaker 2: Now you're going to start over.
- 5:09Speaker 4: You're dangerous now, you know, just enough to be dangerous.
- 5:13Speaker 6: The other thing I think John appreciates with with my
- 5:18Speaker 6: garden style, too, is the idea that, like, for instance,
- 5:24Speaker 6: all the status that we talked about, I don't really
- 5:27Speaker 6: have a plan for those areas yet or the ability
- 5:31Speaker 6: to work on those areas or what I'm going to do,
- 5:33Speaker 6: but just let them be.
- 5:34Speaker 4: They're placeholders.
- 5:35Speaker 5: They are, and I leave them there.
- 5:37Speaker 6: And even they might not be my most favorite plant,
- 5:39Speaker 6: they might not be the best plan for it, but
- 5:42Speaker 6: I leave them there because if I take them out
- 5:46Speaker 6: now just have dirt or weeds. They might as well
- 5:50Speaker 6: have something, you know, along the side of it. Over
- 5:54Speaker 6: here are all those bananas and you know they're not bad, but.
- 6:01Speaker 4: They look good. They they've got fruit hanging on.
- 6:05Speaker 2: How long have those been there?
- 6:06Speaker 5: I mean since we've owned the house.
- 6:08Speaker 2: They were there already.
- 6:09Speaker 4: They were already there. Yeah, you cleaned them up.
- 6:11Speaker 6: Yes, I've been, and I've been thinning them out, meaning
- 6:15Speaker 6: I've been removing them rather than letting them keep repopulating.
- 6:19Speaker 6: I only let me repoppy. And it's so funny. Okay,
- 6:25Speaker 6: the shot that's on the camera right now, oh, let
- 6:27Speaker 6: me go back. So if you look over the top
- 6:31Speaker 6: of Brian's head, cluster of bananas right behind him, and
- 6:36Speaker 6: I think there's an irrigation leak over there, because that
- 6:39Speaker 6: cluster of bananas so much bigger, so many more bananas
- 6:43Speaker 6: and too than the rest of the section. That's interesting
- 6:47Speaker 6: that I think that there's an irrigation break over there.
- 6:50Speaker 6: They get a lot more water than all the rest.
- 6:52Speaker 4: Now you've got giant bird of Paradise mixed with them.
- 6:55Speaker 6: Yes, that was not my choicey, which is interesting. You
- 6:58Speaker 6: have to look very careful.
- 7:00Speaker 5: I can't tell the difference between the tube.
- 7:02Speaker 4: I don't know. It just pops right out to me,
- 7:05Speaker 4: you know.
- 7:07Speaker 2: It does.
- 7:08Speaker 3: This is unrelated but related back when I was a kid,
- 7:14Speaker 3: I don't know. But friends of my folks fish keeps
- 7:18Speaker 3: you hm. They came back to the house again. This
- 7:20Speaker 3: is through my blurry memory.
- 7:22Speaker 5: Meat.
- 7:23Speaker 2: They cut up the fish, and I remember they were
- 7:26Speaker 2: gonna be.
- 7:28Speaker 3: It.
- 7:28Speaker 2: Took all these raw fish, they cut them up, and
- 7:31Speaker 2: they put them in.
- 7:32Speaker 4: The ground fishmeal.
- 7:33Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what, and a month that thing
- 7:37Speaker 3: fough just based on that. Nobody knew it. They just
- 7:40Speaker 3: thought that fish is gonna be good. For them and
- 7:42Speaker 3: it was a giant.
- 7:45Speaker 4: Hmm. That's my story. That's my that's my fish story,
- 7:49Speaker 4: and you're sticking to it. I'm gonna stick to that.
- 7:51Speaker 4: You know what I would do? I mean, I like
- 7:55Speaker 4: what Tiger had has done with these bananas, and I
- 7:58Speaker 4: would if this was my house, I would have that
- 8:00Speaker 4: road bananas. But you know what I would do differently Tiger?
- 8:03Speaker 4: What can you take a guess? I know what I
- 8:07Speaker 4: might have put it climbing roses. No, no, no, no.
- 8:10Speaker 4: I would keep the bananas there, except I would get
- 8:14Speaker 4: out my book Banana Variety World, and I would make
- 8:19Speaker 4: sure that I had at least a dozen different types.
- 8:23Speaker 5: Yeah, one of each variety.
- 8:25Speaker 4: Yeah, one that I had years and years ago, and
- 8:28Speaker 4: it didn't make it, unfortunately. But I I don't know.
- 8:34Speaker 4: If I have time, I might try another one someday.
- 8:36Speaker 4: But I want to put in a rhino horn.
- 8:40Speaker 5: Is it just one banana? What are you clustered?
- 8:45Speaker 4: Right? I don't know if it's what do they call
- 8:47Speaker 4: those hands? Hands?
- 8:48Speaker 6: Well, they said that each indvidual thing is a hand, right,
- 8:50Speaker 6: But that whole big.
- 8:53Speaker 5: Bunch of men mini hands, what do you call mini hands?
- 8:57Speaker 4: No?
- 8:57Speaker 5: Non humorous?
- 9:00Speaker 3: Numerous humerous hands, several hands a lot.
- 9:05Speaker 4: But both The rhino horn may be it. The clusters
- 9:09Speaker 4: aren't as big, but each banana is two feet.
- 9:14Speaker 5: One.
- 9:16Speaker 4: Yeah, have you ever eaten it?
- 9:20Speaker 2: No? No, what it tastes that you wondered about the favor?
- 9:25Speaker 4: Yeah, you know again, I read the book Banana Varieties
- 9:29Speaker 4: of the World. But of course you did, But I haven't.
- 9:32Speaker 4: I haven't worked with bananas for such a long time
- 9:34Speaker 4: that my I'd have to refresh my memory, and I
- 9:37Speaker 4: can't remember if that was an inedible banana, a fruit banana,
- 9:43Speaker 4: or a plantain, you know, because plantains you don't eat fresh.
- 9:47Speaker 4: They've got to be cooked. That's the difference.
- 9:52Speaker 3: I don't know. It's interesting. That's food for thought. Now
- 9:57Speaker 3: we gotta break coming up here, any questions comments?
- 9:59Speaker 2: How are we doing?
- 9:59Speaker 7: So?
- 10:00Speaker 4: No, we got a good quote of the week. When
- 10:04Speaker 4: we come back, we'll do the quote of the week.
- 10:06Speaker 4: And meantime, Tiger's gonna fix my phone so I can
- 10:09Speaker 4: see the comments.
- 10:10Speaker 3: Also, Oh yeah, we do this every week, don't. We's
- 10:12Speaker 3: had a fun little bit that we've worked into the show.
- 10:15Speaker 3: Even though John brings him up before the show, Uh,
- 10:18Speaker 3: he loses them and then Tiger can bring those comments
- 10:21Speaker 3: back up. So again, yes, this is Garden America. Thank
- 10:23Speaker 3: you to BIS Talk Radio. Welcome those on Facebook Live
- 10:26Speaker 3: as we broadcast live from Tiger's place here in San Diego, California.
- 10:29Speaker 3: We are going to take a break as as John mentioned,
- 10:32Speaker 3: going to stay close to that clock for BizTalk Radio,
- 10:34Speaker 3: put a break on Facebook Live. So again, thank you
- 10:36Speaker 3: for joining us live promote Tiger's house here in San Diego,
- 10:39Speaker 3: the Backyard and Brian Maine, John Beck, Nascar Tacker, Pela Fox.
- 10:43Speaker 2: Again, as we say almost.
- 10:44Speaker 3: Every week here back after these messages from our good
- 10:47Speaker 3: friends on BizTalk.
- 10:48Speaker 7: Ratings, welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
- 11:09Speaker 7: John and Tiger.
- 11:11Speaker 2: We are back from that break BIS Talk Radio Facebook Live.
- 11:14Speaker 2: It is Gardened American.
- 11:15Speaker 3: In case you're just joining us, and boy, you got
- 11:18Speaker 3: a sad looking dog they're looking at from the kitchen,
- 11:21Speaker 3: Tiger wanting to be out here with us, Charlie and Chandler.
- 11:24Speaker 5: Right, I'll just.
- 11:26Speaker 3: We did a lot of show prep with Charlie and
- 11:28Speaker 3: Chandler before the show. But we are back and John
- 11:31Speaker 3: the quote of the week, which obviously is in that
- 11:33Speaker 3: newsletter we talked about top of the show.
- 11:35Speaker 4: You know, in the quote of the week, I you know,
- 11:39Speaker 4: I'm going through putting the finishing touches on my on
- 11:43Speaker 4: the novel that I just wrote, and I used this
- 11:47Speaker 4: quote in my novel, and I went back and read
- 11:50Speaker 4: the story or the excerpt from the book that it
- 11:54Speaker 4: came from, and it just impressed me. And the quotes
- 11:57Speaker 4: from David Fairchild, and it comes after he returned from
- 12:03Speaker 4: a trip to Hawaii, and back then there were no airplanes,
- 12:07Speaker 4: so you know, it had to be by boat. And
- 12:10Speaker 4: he was based in Washington, d C. So kind of
- 12:13Speaker 4: a long way. That's a track, Yeah, kind of a
- 12:16Speaker 4: long ways. But anyway, he said that, Uh, I'm glad
- 12:19Speaker 4: that I saw a few of the quiet places of
- 12:22Speaker 4: the world before the coming of automobiles and jazz.
- 12:27Speaker 2: Automobiles and jazz.
- 12:29Speaker 3: Doesn't that Yeah, yeah, it really does. David Fairchild, do
- 12:36Speaker 3: we have Do you have your comments on your phone?
- 12:39Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 12:40Speaker 6: Right now, we're working with sonyas but trying to get
- 12:44Speaker 6: I'm trying to make sure everybody share share the link
- 12:48Speaker 6: because we set it up a little differently.
- 12:49Speaker 5: This week we went live.
- 12:54Speaker 2: And shared it on and shared it on started gard
- 12:56Speaker 2: in America, which.
- 13:00Speaker 4: Started to.
- 13:09Speaker 3: Okay, and let anybody else know as well that wants
- 13:12Speaker 3: to that wants to watch and here today's show.
- 13:18Speaker 5: So you know, we were talking to and it's always
- 13:29Speaker 5: fun to share way with people.
- 13:33Speaker 6: I mean, that's part of our show. Photos that we
- 13:36Speaker 6: put in the newsletter and how we share what's happening.
- 13:40Speaker 6: You know, we try to.
- 13:41Speaker 5: Include people in being done in.
- 13:45Speaker 6: Their yard, what they're successful, what their failures are. And
- 13:50Speaker 6: it's it's a little bit, you know, also kind of
- 13:54Speaker 6: unnerving thing because it's it's almost like you're opening yourself
- 13:58Speaker 6: up to the uh, the critique or criticism of other people.
- 14:03Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 14:03Speaker 6: Absolutely, but I will say, and I don't know John,
- 14:06Speaker 6: if you feel this way. So because you have so
- 14:10Speaker 6: many people come to your yard, you have you know,
- 14:15Speaker 6: rose auction preparity, you know, plant preservation, eaty groups, stuff that.
- 14:24Speaker 4: We have a landscape for trying to make sense of
- 14:26Speaker 4: everything exactly.
- 14:28Speaker 6: But it's but it's almost death that cooks a meal
- 14:34Speaker 6: that they recognize how hard to cook a meal that
- 14:38Speaker 6: when you go to someone's yard, you don't them at
- 14:42Speaker 6: all because you're like, you know.
- 14:43Speaker 5: What, it's hard and if you.
- 14:46Speaker 4: Have some yeah, I usually look for what I like,
- 14:49Speaker 4: you know, what you don't. Yeah, I don't. I usually
- 14:52Speaker 4: don't critique gardens. I I look at plants and they
- 14:56Speaker 4: every For instance, I gave you a Dorian this balmri.
- 15:01Speaker 4: What's it called spirit Lily? Right, sorry, Brian, it's a
- 15:05Speaker 4: little bit flasterom I And and you showed it to
- 15:11Speaker 4: me over here, and I was almost jealous. Looked so good.
- 15:16Speaker 6: Yeah, but I mean, you know, like you say, you
- 15:18Speaker 6: pick out what you like, right, you don't focus on
- 15:22Speaker 6: I think that's true, true guard and someone.
- 15:28Speaker 5: Mm hmm, because they know the little other things not
- 15:32Speaker 5: properly trimmed.
- 15:34Speaker 4: Plane.
- 15:35Speaker 3: We're walking into somebody's garden and you're you're very impressed
- 15:38Speaker 3: by something that that's thriving that they have, and you
- 15:41Speaker 3: couldn't grow it, and so you say, what are you doing?
- 15:46Speaker 3: What are you doing to make that look so good?
- 15:48Speaker 3: And usually it's nothing more than a little fertilizer and wane.
- 15:52Speaker 3: But you know what we're looking for that elixir like that,
- 15:56Speaker 3: that magic potion that made it made you successful. And
- 15:59Speaker 3: that's what I would look for. Something that I'm having
- 16:01Speaker 3: a problem with, and I see somebody else, you know,
- 16:04Speaker 3: they're having a lot of success.
- 16:05Speaker 5: I think that's why people do fall into that rap?
- 16:09Speaker 6: You know what people are selling out there on you know,
- 16:13Speaker 6: the internet or what le selling like, Oh, you put
- 16:16Speaker 6: this on your plant, it'll be fun, it'll grow so much.
- 16:20Speaker 5: Fact put this take all the bugs ever. You know.
- 16:26Speaker 3: But where is it? How much sun is it getting? Northeast,
- 16:30Speaker 3: west or south?
- 16:31Speaker 5: Did Brian plant it?
- 16:33Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly? What's what's the temperature range? So many factors that.
- 16:36Speaker 4: Go into there. Are soil in the pot that's avaiable.
- 16:40Speaker 3: Some people are really for soil. And you're a big
- 16:43Speaker 3: soil guy, Joe. Do you think that's the key to
- 16:46Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of successful growing.
- 16:48Speaker 6: Look at the dresina right there in front of Brian's
- 16:51Speaker 6: mixture board. There's no soil in there doing quite well. Brian,
- 16:55Speaker 6: can you live that up and show it to John?
- 16:57Speaker 6: Look at it from the top. The reason why I like,
- 17:00Speaker 6: doesn't it look like it's kind of growing?
- 17:03Speaker 2: Yes? It does.
- 17:04Speaker 4: Yeah, I really like that Dressina, This is nice, very nice.
- 17:08Speaker 5: I don't know if that's just the way it I.
- 17:11Speaker 4: Think it's that variety. Yeah, there's a dwarf variety that
- 17:14Speaker 4: girls like that. Okay, there's a lot of breeding that's
- 17:17Speaker 4: been done with those types of you know, and you'll
- 17:21Speaker 4: you'll get some with white stripes instead of shark truce
- 17:24Speaker 4: like this, and everyone's a little bit different. I really
- 17:28Speaker 4: like those. By the way, you were talking about the
- 17:31Speaker 4: way that I critique gardens and how I always look
- 17:34Speaker 4: for the best things and things that I like, and
- 17:39Speaker 4: it's always been easy for me to do that with gardens,
- 17:42Speaker 4: and I'm I'm just getting to the point where I
- 17:46Speaker 4: realize I need to do it with people, and treating
- 17:53Speaker 4: people like plants is something I need to work on.
- 17:57Speaker 2: You're getting there.
- 17:59Speaker 4: As you get old, or you mellow out a little bit.
- 18:01Speaker 6: So yeah, you mellow out and you your last You
- 18:09Speaker 6: don't focus on all of the No, he said that,
- 18:14Speaker 6: you know what I mean, a lot of the negativity.
- 18:17Speaker 2: So do you see John as I get off my long,
- 18:19Speaker 2: long kind of guy.
- 18:20Speaker 6: No, I see him if if John lives I used
- 18:25Speaker 6: to used to bend those guys. But I if I
- 18:29Speaker 6: if John lived in a track area, people think I
- 18:36Speaker 6: can see John oh ah, always being out in the
- 18:42Speaker 6: front yard.
- 18:43Speaker 5: Everybody says hi to him as they walk by.
- 18:47Speaker 4: They do they do.
- 18:49Speaker 6: Everybody's checking in on what's new, because I think he's
- 18:53Speaker 6: always doing something new in his yard. And I think
- 18:55Speaker 6: he's also the kind of guy that if people were
- 19:00Speaker 6: to walk by and say, hey, John, do you mind
- 19:02Speaker 6: if I, you know, cut some roses for a bouquet
- 19:05Speaker 6: or something. I think he would be totally fine with it.
- 19:07Speaker 6: He'd be like, okay, because he doesn't do it.
- 19:09Speaker 3: Those in the back are fine, don't cut him here,
- 19:11Speaker 3: but the ones in the back have at it.
- 19:13Speaker 4: I don't know, you're giving me more credit than I
- 19:16Speaker 4: deserve right now. I think no, But.
- 19:18Speaker 5: I think because you would do that, but you just
- 19:20Speaker 5: are like, I'm at.
- 19:21Speaker 2: Your mouth over delivery. Yeah.
- 19:23Speaker 4: Maybe.
- 19:24Speaker 3: Hey, it is break time. We're gonna stay on track
- 19:26Speaker 3: here for Bistalk Radio. So thank you for joining us.
- 19:28Speaker 3: Those on Facebook Live, those on bistalk Radio, questions, comments,
- 19:32Speaker 3: I see you John on your phone. So things are okay,
- 19:34Speaker 3: so far, so far, so far, so good. So we're
- 19:36Speaker 3: gonna take a break for Bistalk Radio. Stay with us
- 19:38Speaker 3: whatever's on your mind. We are guard to America.
- 19:40Speaker 2: I'm back after the medicine.
- 20:11Speaker 7: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
- 20:14Speaker 7: John and Tiger.
- 20:16Speaker 2: After the break.
- 20:18Speaker 3: Generally do come back from the breaks. Only a few
- 20:20Speaker 3: times over the years have we not come back from
- 20:22Speaker 3: a break, surprisingly, but we are back live broadcasting from
- 20:26Speaker 3: a tiger's backyard here in San Diego, California. John, have
- 20:30Speaker 3: you hey? You meet it on time this morning? Yeah,
- 20:32Speaker 3: you're refreshed. I brought you pots this morning, and you
- 20:36Speaker 3: brought pots.
- 20:37Speaker 4: I was cleaning out a pile that my wife has
- 20:40Speaker 4: been threatening me about for the last month, and we
- 20:45Speaker 4: took my son got a dump trailer and we loaded
- 20:49Speaker 4: it to the top and made a trip to the top.
- 20:52Speaker 4: Some of your leftover, Yeah, and well there were some
- 20:55Speaker 4: I thought, you know, these are just too nice to
- 20:57Speaker 4: throw out.
- 20:58Speaker 3: Maybe somebody could use the one that I shows I
- 21:00Speaker 3: can barely fift a solid pot.
- 21:03Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the nice pot. Good ceramic pot. Yes,
- 21:08Speaker 4: it's substantial. Yeah. Our good friend, uh, Kathy from Eureka
- 21:14Speaker 4: joined us.
- 21:15Speaker 2: Hello Kathy. Hello.
- 21:18Speaker 4: Kathy and I have been chatting lately, and she's getting
- 21:22Speaker 4: to the point where if she's not careful, I'm going
- 21:26Speaker 4: to have to give her acknowledgments in my book.
- 21:29Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, because the last thing you write is
- 21:33Speaker 3: the forward, right.
- 21:36Speaker 4: The last thing you write is the forward.
- 21:38Speaker 2: Because, like you're saying, you know, you get us.
- 21:40Speaker 4: I don't have a forward in my book right now,
- 21:42Speaker 4: the last thing you put in is the acknowledgement.
- 21:44Speaker 2: Right, but but maybe you know the first.
- 21:46Speaker 4: Thing I wrote was the prologue.
- 21:52Speaker 2: Of the epilogue.
- 21:53Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the it's uh. Some of our listeners, especially
- 22:01Speaker 4: radio listeners, might not know what we're talking about. But
- 22:04Speaker 4: I just completed my first fiction book. You know, I've
- 22:09Speaker 4: written some nonfiction books on gardening, but my first fiction book,
- 22:14Speaker 4: and I've kind of had a loss because it was
- 22:18Speaker 4: all new, and I some people that I respect their
- 22:20Speaker 4: opinions are helping me go through it now.
- 22:23Speaker 2: And well, the part that you wrote for me or before.
- 22:28Speaker 4: I wanted you two, it wasn't you. It was a
- 22:31Speaker 4: character that happened to have the same name but spelled
- 22:34Speaker 4: different right.
- 22:34Speaker 3: In pretty much the same industry. And I thought you
- 22:37Speaker 3: did a good job with that. I don't know if
- 22:40Speaker 3: going back twenty years you would have had enough knowledge
- 22:44Speaker 3: of or information I would have written it that.
- 22:46Speaker 2: Well.
- 22:47Speaker 4: I don't think so, because I wasn't as familiar with
- 22:51Speaker 4: radio back then.
- 22:53Speaker 3: But you think, and what we all do, and podcasts
- 22:57Speaker 3: are new, the podcasts are reading. Let's be honest, people
- 23:02Speaker 3: that would never have a platform prior to five teams.
- 23:06Speaker 2: Everyone's a radio.
- 23:07Speaker 4: I remember one of the criticisms on trying to think
- 23:11Speaker 4: how long I've been doing the radio show, maybe twenty
- 23:16Speaker 4: five years?
- 23:17Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five comes in.
- 23:18Speaker 4: Yeah, because before I started working with you, I was
- 23:22Speaker 4: working with Ken Kramer.
- 23:24Speaker 3: Well, then it goes back even for a couple of years.
- 23:26Speaker 3: It's probably thirty because you and I hooked up at
- 23:29Speaker 3: Kogo right in the late nineties. Yeah, nineteen ninety, Kay,
- 23:34Speaker 3: that's twenty five years.
- 23:35Speaker 4: Just that'll But I remember one of the first criticisms
- 23:39Speaker 4: that I took to heart was I don't know if
- 23:45Speaker 4: he was production manager, making the comment to our boss
- 23:51Speaker 4: at the time, can't this guy just stick to the
- 23:54Speaker 4: script and talk about gardening. We don't care about his
- 23:57Speaker 4: comments of what's going on around.
- 24:01Speaker 2: Well, see, now that's a program director, right.
- 24:03Speaker 4: You know who that was? Cliff Alpert?
- 24:07Speaker 2: Oh Cliff.
- 24:10Speaker 5: You know.
- 24:10Speaker 4: It's interesting and I always respected Cliff. I never knew him,
- 24:13Speaker 4: you know, I think I might have only met him
- 24:15Speaker 4: once or twelve.
- 24:15Speaker 2: Every program director is going to have a different team.
- 24:18Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 24:18Speaker 3: Wrong, somebody else might say, you know, that's good, little
- 24:21Speaker 3: a little you know, splice of life, John, that's good,
- 24:24Speaker 3: you know, tempered with, uh, you know what you're talking about.
- 24:27Speaker 3: Just make sure there's a balance there that could be
- 24:29Speaker 3: from another program.
- 24:30Speaker 4: I think what he was upset with was there was
- 24:32Speaker 4: we were in a new studio and there was something
- 24:35Speaker 4: going on in the background, and I made a comment
- 24:37Speaker 4: about it. And I think he was upset that I
- 24:42Speaker 4: brought that to the radio, right because there was no
- 24:45Speaker 4: video at that time, and and I was he was
- 24:48Speaker 4: just thinking, you know, that's some not something people on
- 24:50Speaker 4: the radio want to hear about.
- 24:52Speaker 2: Well, then I agree with him.
- 24:55Speaker 4: Well, it was a lot of learned a lot, not much,
- 24:57Speaker 4: but learned a lot.
- 24:59Speaker 3: There are some basics, but again it's it's like every
- 25:03Speaker 3: ped is going to be a little different.
- 25:05Speaker 5: Yeah, you know. Yeah.
- 25:07Speaker 4: Wasn't your wife a program director?
- 25:09Speaker 3: No?
- 25:10Speaker 2: She was music.
- 25:11Speaker 3: She worked with the record She worked with the guys
- 25:14Speaker 3: that come down from LA and promote their client and
- 25:17Speaker 3: then take them back to lunch. Somebody from Columbia. I
- 25:20Speaker 3: thought she worked well.
- 25:23Speaker 2: She was a producer and then she produced.
- 25:28Speaker 4: Got it?
- 25:30Speaker 5: Tanya.
- 25:30Speaker 6: Tanya had asked in the distance behind us, as the
- 25:34Speaker 6: brown building part my properties?
- 25:38Speaker 4: You know, I misread that too. She said, is the
- 25:42Speaker 4: brown building or part of Tiger's place. Yeah, and I
- 25:46Speaker 4: thought I read it as Tiger's hell.
- 25:50Speaker 2: Talking about the.
- 25:52Speaker 6: It's the gazebo back there, which maybe a little later
- 25:56Speaker 6: in the show. I'll take one camera, see if I
- 25:57Speaker 6: can show them part properties. Yes, that is ebo back there,
- 26:01Speaker 6: and then behind that is another whiteish building with a
- 26:05Speaker 6: black top. That's the poolhouse down there reference to. So
- 26:11Speaker 6: I'll try to move a camera a little much more.
- 26:13Speaker 3: Than well, I was thinking the same thing. It could
- 26:16Speaker 3: it could be bedroom, guest house, could be a kitchen, shower,
- 26:20Speaker 3: gets closer to the game huse the game room, game room, yeah,
- 26:25Speaker 3: guest house it is.
- 26:26Speaker 4: There's a little kid.
- 26:27Speaker 6: That'll that'll be definitely a game room later on when
- 26:30Speaker 6: I don't have kids anymore, and I'm just gonna turn
- 26:32Speaker 6: it into whatever i want own game Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
- 26:37Speaker 4: I would probably turn it into the library. Yeah, ye
- 26:40Speaker 4: had a second.
- 26:42Speaker 6: Your your library is probably as big as right now,
- 26:46Speaker 6: right you You would have to have two of those.
- 26:50Speaker 4: I don't know. Your place is five hundred super feet
- 26:53Speaker 4: my library.
- 26:55Speaker 6: No, it seems like it. You have such an expansive
- 26:59Speaker 6: it's pretty good. Walls are so tall that you know what.
- 27:02Speaker 3: He's got The proverbial ladder on rollers goes back and forth.
- 27:06Speaker 3: I buy upon platform.
- 27:10Speaker 4: That's my favorite book.
- 27:11Speaker 3: It is, I would I think it's the first thing
- 27:13Speaker 3: I asked you when you were building it, and I
- 27:15Speaker 3: was being kind of facetious. You said, no, no, I've
- 27:17Speaker 3: got one of those. I'm actually going to put what
- 27:20Speaker 3: I was in there, and.
- 27:21Speaker 5: I go rolling down it fighting, and.
- 27:24Speaker 3: Then you like, I like what something else John does
- 27:26Speaker 3: when he has people there and they ask him about
- 27:28Speaker 3: a book and he knows exactly what it is. I'm
- 27:32Speaker 3: the ladder back and forth or three times, take a
- 27:35Speaker 3: couple of books that happened and pull one out the
- 27:38Speaker 3: whole sixty second thing like, here's.
- 27:40Speaker 4: Some Hi, I have a new addition to the library
- 27:44Speaker 4: that you might appreciate. I have. You know, I would
- 27:48Speaker 4: say two thirds of it is gardening books and one
- 27:52Speaker 4: third is fantasy. Okay, look on your face bright, Okay,
- 28:01Speaker 4: but you know fiction, uh, fantasy like Lord of the
- 28:06Speaker 4: Rings stuff like that. There's one one one section of
- 28:10Speaker 4: the particular author, Robin Hobbes, has a lot of titles
- 28:16Speaker 4: that are relating the dragons. So those are all up
- 28:20Speaker 4: on one shelf. And I found a bookend that's a
- 28:26Speaker 4: dragon head with flaws that come out books, and I'll
- 28:31Speaker 4: have to take a picture.
- 28:32Speaker 6: I didn't know you were into dragons used to be
- 28:36Speaker 6: he likes those that genre. Yeah, right, yeah, yeah.
- 28:42Speaker 4: There were dragons in dragons in Lord.
- 28:46Speaker 5: Of the Yeah.
- 28:50Speaker 2: You know that.
- 28:50Speaker 3: There's no notations and or drawings of dragons about every
- 28:54Speaker 3: kind of world long before there was transportation to get
- 28:59Speaker 3: to and front. Yeah, so you couldn't go from one
- 29:01Speaker 3: place that had him and then went to someplace else
- 29:04Speaker 3: through it.
- 29:05Speaker 2: Right, very interesting. I just call them the beast?
- 29:10Speaker 4: Is there? Oh? Yeah?
- 29:12Speaker 5: Was dragon fruit before the dragon or did that come out?
- 29:16Speaker 4: Did they named dragons after?
- 29:18Speaker 5: They named dragons after dragon fruit?
- 29:20Speaker 4: I don't know, John, you can't have dragon fruit what
- 29:25Speaker 4: I do?
- 29:26Speaker 5: There's one of a petting that I just got in
- 29:28Speaker 5: a pot over here?
- 29:30Speaker 4: Is that?
- 29:32Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah? And and my daughter loves.
- 29:36Speaker 2: We talked about this last I was.
- 29:38Speaker 3: A little.
- 29:40Speaker 4: People who don't like dragon fruit, and I kind of
- 29:43Speaker 4: wonder why. I think someone made the comment about they
- 29:47Speaker 4: didn't the little tiny seeds.
- 29:49Speaker 5: Yeah, bothered?
- 29:50Speaker 2: What's like strawberries?
- 29:52Speaker 4: But those to me are like poppies.
- 29:54Speaker 3: Yeah, if you really like it, I don't think the
- 29:57Speaker 3: steeds bothered.
- 29:58Speaker 4: No, I actually liked stand the text because because it
- 30:03Speaker 4: does remind me of Poppy.
- 30:04Speaker 5: Do you like Kiwi? I love you Hui is the
- 30:07Speaker 5: same kind of thing with you see. But some people
- 30:12Speaker 5: but the fuzzy again that it just sets them off.
- 30:16Speaker 4: Well you're not supposed to be wait.
- 30:17Speaker 5: I know you're not supposed to eat it, but I
- 30:18Speaker 5: mean even just the idea.
- 30:20Speaker 3: And a lot of people don't like certain foods only
- 30:22Speaker 3: because a texture. Is it taste good?
- 30:25Speaker 4: My granddaughter's like it's the texture.
- 30:27Speaker 3: I just can't stomach it. Hey, it's break time once again,
- 30:30Speaker 3: so we're gonna take a break for Bistalk Radio. Gonna
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- 30:49Speaker 7: A week, Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show
- 31:19Speaker 7: with Brian, John and Tiger.
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- 31:53Speaker 3: Good friends on BIS Talk Radio. Scott Stephanie, two major
- 31:57Speaker 3: people that we want to be very nice because they keep.
- 32:00Speaker 2: Us on the air.
- 32:03Speaker 4: Where were they.
- 32:05Speaker 3: That's a good question, but it's not here. They had
- 32:08Speaker 3: they had moved. No, they're not California, but they did.
- 32:10Speaker 3: They did move, and originally it was up in New
- 32:12Speaker 3: England years ago, years ago.
- 32:15Speaker 4: I thought they were in Texas.
- 32:19Speaker 6: That's good a we should see where.
- 32:25Speaker 5: Yeah, they're from, and Joe based.
- 32:28Speaker 4: On it.
- 32:30Speaker 6: Just exactly right there in New England in the middle
- 32:32Speaker 6: of winter. We're gonna talk palm but Texas.
- 32:37Speaker 2: Yeah, talking about not overwatering.
- 32:41Speaker 6: Yea, my son extremes, right, how does the areas are
- 32:45Speaker 6: flooded desert.
- 32:49Speaker 4: They're I'm remulching the dry cactus suckulment area, are you?
- 32:57Speaker 4: And what's just fresh vault? Yeah, I'm putting down with
- 33:01Speaker 4: the yeah, and that's what I'm doing. Same thing natural malts,
- 33:05Speaker 4: but it's just new and I'm putting down wheed preventer,
- 33:08Speaker 4: getting out all the weeds, and then looks really good.
- 33:11Speaker 4: But the one area where I had the pebble garden
- 33:15Speaker 4: and put in the living stone things, people kept walking
- 33:20Speaker 4: through it. My daughter stepped and killed the lithops and
- 33:25Speaker 4: is this sectioned off?
- 33:27Speaker 6: No, he's He's the only one that works in his yard.
- 33:30Speaker 6: So when other people come walking through his yard and
- 33:32Speaker 6: they don't.
- 33:33Speaker 4: See these, well, she remember, like a liftof looks like
- 33:36Speaker 4: a rock, and that was the point of the pebble.
- 33:40Speaker 5: They're about an inch big. Hey, But.
- 33:46Speaker 4: My daughter was waiting and she stepped on one and
- 33:48Speaker 4: she killed it. And then my son was helping me
- 33:52Speaker 4: yesterday bringing up some new molts. He almost stepped in it.
- 33:57Speaker 4: And so many people have gone through their My daughter
- 34:00Speaker 4: told me, well, the way you have it, it looks
- 34:02Speaker 4: like something you're supposed to step on. So I had
- 34:07Speaker 4: a metal road runner that I put right in there. Okay,
- 34:12Speaker 4: so you can't walk, I mean you would step on
- 34:15Speaker 4: the road runner. So I think it's okay.
- 34:19Speaker 6: You know, that's one of the biggest with people that
- 34:28Speaker 6: know they're full something coming first come to a yarn
- 34:38Speaker 6: and you see a bunch of little feeds in a bag,
- 34:44Speaker 6: because all all look the same, right like they you know,
- 34:47Speaker 6: they all just come up, little green sprigs. And it
- 34:49Speaker 6: could be a sunflower, it could I know, a weed,
- 34:54Speaker 6: it couldna it could be a lot of things. So
- 34:58Speaker 6: a landscaper goes into ringes, well then yeah, that's where
- 35:02Speaker 6: I had my wildflower seed. That's where had my vegetable garden.
- 35:05Speaker 6: That's where you gotta you gotta put some signage. You
- 35:08Speaker 6: gotta put a roadrunner in the middle of Welcome to
- 35:10Speaker 6: the garden. Be careful what you step on.
- 35:12Speaker 4: When my daughter last year was working on the side
- 35:15Speaker 4: garden waiting it for me, and I really appreciate all
- 35:20Speaker 4: our efforts. But of course, what's the first thing I
- 35:23Speaker 4: did was I went out there and I go, where's
- 35:26Speaker 4: the rare?
- 35:27Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, the rare there.
- 35:29Speaker 4: There's a few words, the rare Brugman's Yeah, that was there.
- 35:33Speaker 4: That can't be replaced. He said, what didn't look like
- 35:37Speaker 4: I said, it looked like grass.
- 35:39Speaker 5: It's in the bottom of the trash can.
- 35:42Speaker 4: So so I did lose that plan. Speaking of Brigman's,
- 35:46Speaker 4: is you're still growing? It's the one that's the big ball.
- 35:55Speaker 4: H I think the species might be Man's. Yeah, I'm sorry, No.
- 36:05Speaker 6: It's the bullbu game right, I'll show it to you. Yeah,
- 36:08Speaker 6: I'll show it to you because it grew for a minute,
- 36:11Speaker 6: but now it's not. And so I don't know if
- 36:14Speaker 6: it's storm. Okay, so because I thought I killed it, no, no, no.
- 36:18Speaker 5: So yes, and I do have it. I'll show you
- 36:20Speaker 5: where it's at.
- 36:22Speaker 4: Yeah, now, now it's fucking what the heck is that?
- 36:25Speaker 6: It's a bulb it had it's almost like a an amarillis,
- 36:31Speaker 6: you know, meaning like brunsvigia.
- 36:34Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why that's pretty close brons vigia. Yeah, that's
- 36:37Speaker 4: why I got it mixed up. Okay, yes, well why
- 36:40Speaker 4: I got it mixed up, it's because I'm old. But yeah,
- 36:43Speaker 4: the names are similar. But it's a bruns figia. And
- 36:47Speaker 4: I think that I have one and I gave you one,
- 36:51Speaker 4: and they're about the same age. They were grown from seed.
- 36:55Speaker 4: So they're almost blooming side, and I don't know if
- 37:00Speaker 4: it'll bloom in a pot. Mine's in the ground, here's
- 37:03Speaker 4: gonna contain No, mine's in oh your's crown?
- 37:07Speaker 2: Okay?
- 37:07Speaker 6: Does it require water? Not in the summer okay, So
- 37:11Speaker 6: it's in an area that doesn't get water. Yeah, that's
- 37:14Speaker 6: why I kind of so it should be okay.
- 37:17Speaker 4: But the thing about it is when it puts out
- 37:19Speaker 4: its bloom spike, the bloom is about I'm thinking like
- 37:24Speaker 4: twelve to eighteen inches fraud almost like. And the reason
- 37:29Speaker 4: I gave it to you was you were really impressed
- 37:31Speaker 4: with when we were in England with all the aliens.
- 37:36Speaker 4: So it's that type of much much boter bunch of
- 37:40Speaker 4: out none no, none of them. Now you have to move.
- 37:44Speaker 6: Yeah, So I think I have a good spot for
- 37:49Speaker 6: that prince speak, because it's an area that doesn't get
- 37:51Speaker 6: water in the summertime, and in the wintertime.
- 37:54Speaker 4: It can get water. For it's an area that drains
- 37:56Speaker 4: real well, just not a lot.
- 37:57Speaker 6: And then in the winter time it's an area that
- 38:00Speaker 6: the water drains due so therefore it does get wet
- 38:04Speaker 6: through the wintertime, you know, but it's drained.
- 38:07Speaker 4: Speaking our friend Tanya is identifying with with the story
- 38:17Speaker 4: about my pubble guarden because she posted no pour litups.
- 38:23Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, they don't when when you step on them,
- 38:26Speaker 6: you would think they.
- 38:26Speaker 5: Would pop like a little jelly.
- 38:28Speaker 4: Uh, they're kind of hard.
- 38:29Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't pop like.
- 38:30Speaker 3: You, but now shouldn't you. There'd be like a short
- 38:33Speaker 3: briefing before you turn them loose in your garden. You know,
- 38:37Speaker 3: don't step on this plant. I mean just kind of
- 38:39Speaker 3: let them go before you walk through by. Yeah, exactly.
- 38:44Speaker 3: This rare one of a kind.
- 38:46Speaker 4: My daughter doesn't like instructions.
- 38:49Speaker 2: Mmm.
- 38:49Speaker 5: I like that she came out.
- 38:52Speaker 4: She did so much waiting.
- 38:55Speaker 5: Well, you know what.
- 38:55Speaker 3: Good okay, but hard to come back when you see
- 39:02Speaker 3: a good reader.
- 39:02Speaker 2: Keep them.
- 39:03Speaker 3: Now, we got to take a break. Oh yeah, we
- 39:05Speaker 3: got Top of the Hour for BIS Talk Radio. We'll
- 39:08Speaker 3: be back very quick on Facebook Live again six minutes
- 39:12Speaker 3: after BIS Talk Radio Hour two Top of the Hour News.
- 39:15Speaker 3: This is Guarden America. Thank you for joining us back
- 39:18Speaker 3: after this that the other thing day. All right, that
- 39:55Speaker 3: was one hick of a break. We've had a lot
- 39:56Speaker 3: of breaks over the year. I can't recall one more
- 39:59Speaker 3: fun than that break. There was a lot of fun
- 40:01Speaker 3: before the break. By the way, welcome back to Garden
- 40:05Speaker 3: America by the whole Yeah, guard in America. Yeah, thank
- 40:09Speaker 3: you very much. All right, here we go.
- 40:11Speaker 5: If if Gina's at all.
- 40:17Speaker 6: Feels like she's missing some of the California We've talked
- 40:20Speaker 6: about it where she lives. There's things that she can
- 40:22Speaker 6: grow there which we can't grow here. Right right, that's
- 40:26Speaker 6: embrace you love.
- 40:29Speaker 5: But it seems it's also.
- 40:34Speaker 6: All right, go out of the yard, they.
- 40:42Speaker 5: Come back here.
- 40:47Speaker 4: Even well, I don't know. She thinks it's need that
- 40:51Speaker 4: she can weave. Yeah, that she can wait, but well,
- 40:55Speaker 4: she is good at it. But she also likes to
- 40:58Speaker 4: see things finished. So she wanted to start a project
- 41:03Speaker 4: and then have all the new mults down and everything
- 41:05Speaker 4: perfect before she left, which unfortunately we did not have
- 41:09Speaker 4: time to do. But now we're pretty close and almost
- 41:13Speaker 4: I would say virtually all the beds around the house
- 41:16Speaker 4: are are finished. So she likes projects, right, And she
- 41:23Speaker 4: she mentions she only does pretty so she doesn't like
- 41:28Speaker 4: planting a botanical collection, but she did, and she does
- 41:33Speaker 4: like and she likes color combinations. I love colors, yeah,
- 41:40Speaker 4: but she has to have the combinations like at home.
- 41:42Speaker 4: She has a white and pink garden, the entire garden.
- 41:45Speaker 4: She doesn't allow yellows or reds into her garden.
- 41:50Speaker 5: That is perfect us.
- 41:52Speaker 6: No, no, but if I see a yellow plant that
- 41:54Speaker 6: I'm like, yeah, I'm giddy.
- 41:56Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well she would find it spot just not
- 42:01Speaker 3: in amongst the particular colors you're.
- 42:02Speaker 5: Talking, because she's very specific.
- 42:07Speaker 4: And she's just on a small lot compared to them.
- 42:10Speaker 4: You know, she's isn't for a yellow, she's like the
- 42:15Speaker 4: upper part of and uh you know in it.
- 42:19Speaker 5: Yeah, so.
- 42:22Speaker 4: I think she convinced my wife to also want a
- 42:27Speaker 4: pink and white garden. So we have the the one
- 42:31Speaker 4: area by the bathroom door that's pink and white.
- 42:36Speaker 5: Okay, pretty much, so.
- 42:39Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll it'll just right. My wife let purple creep
- 42:43Speaker 4: into it, and then she decided I want all the
- 42:47Speaker 4: purple out. So we've been removing all the purple and
- 42:51Speaker 4: the only purple left is one helium because it was
- 42:57Speaker 4: almost dead. It was in a dry part of that
- 42:59Speaker 4: area where the irrigation wasn't hitting. So I thought, I'll
- 43:02Speaker 4: move it and it will come back, and I fertilized
- 43:05Speaker 4: it and now it's starting to do real well. But
- 43:07Speaker 4: it wasn't until after I replanted it and I was
- 43:10Speaker 4: doing well, I realized, oh, it's purple.
- 43:13Speaker 2: Has Shannon over.
- 43:14Speaker 3: The years either taking more of an interest or kind
- 43:18Speaker 3: of been a little more forthright with garden outs.
- 43:22Speaker 2: She wants that maybe before prior.
- 43:27Speaker 4: She's not so much of a plant person as she
- 43:32Speaker 4: is a visual person, and she knows if it's appealing
- 43:37Speaker 4: to her.
- 43:38Speaker 5: She wants a yard.
- 43:40Speaker 4: She wants a yard, and she also wants.
- 43:43Speaker 5: To be wants it to be neat.
- 43:46Speaker 4: Yes, it has to be neat.
- 43:48Speaker 5: She wants a yard, you know, and I can appreciate
- 43:51Speaker 5: that and understand that.
- 43:53Speaker 4: You know, she's out there with the soccer ball, you know,
- 43:55Speaker 4: kicking that around.
- 43:56Speaker 6: Where John wants a guard. You know, ultimately his is
- 44:01Speaker 6: a garden where cannon yea. And people say, well, what's
- 44:07Speaker 6: the difference, And I think that the big difference is
- 44:11Speaker 6: that a yard is an area where people can come, can.
- 44:15Speaker 2: Run around, the kids can play. Yeah, no harm, no foul.
- 44:19Speaker 6: Exactly where a garden is going to be probably not
- 44:22Speaker 6: necessarily always usable space because the plants are filling up
- 44:27Speaker 6: certain areas.
- 44:28Speaker 5: It's it's more, uh, you.
- 44:31Speaker 6: Know, the plant based, plant focused you know, kind of
- 44:35Speaker 6: a thing, not so much space focused.
- 44:37Speaker 4: She did tell me something after we were first married,
- 44:40Speaker 4: and it was that she was talking to a friend
- 44:43Speaker 4: of ours about gardens and she said, before I married John,
- 44:49Speaker 4: I would drive down the street and all I saw
- 44:52Speaker 4: was the dream. Yeah, this is while we were living
- 44:54Speaker 4: in Michigan. Says Now, I see elm trees and maple trees,
- 44:59Speaker 4: specific specific plants, and I've always seen plants my whole life,
- 45:05Speaker 4: So I I that was the first time I realized
- 45:08Speaker 4: that people had different mindsets in different ways of looking.
- 45:12Speaker 3: I think growing up kind of like and into a degree,
- 45:16Speaker 3: how would you look.
- 45:18Speaker 2: Out right now?
- 45:22Speaker 3: Not really looking at each individual, we're focusing Wow, what
- 45:26Speaker 3: is that?
- 45:27Speaker 4: Well? Were you like that tiger? Because you were brought
- 45:29Speaker 4: up in the nursery industry, So did you always see plants?
- 45:34Speaker 6: You never saw just like green? What about Janine? Janine
- 45:38Speaker 6: only like here's that Channis. He sees green. You see
- 45:42Speaker 6: likes but plants, not whatever the plants may be.
- 45:47Speaker 4: But I remember when we were at the Plume Aria show.
- 45:49Speaker 4: She liked plume area.
- 45:52Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, she does.
- 45:53Speaker 4: But but whether it's a purple striped blue.
- 45:57Speaker 6: Areas and and then and I think here's where that
- 46:02Speaker 6: whole I grew up im from the game was because
- 46:06Speaker 6: obviously my dad, you know, when we would travel or
- 46:09Speaker 6: be places, he would make comments, right, look at this,
- 46:13Speaker 6: oh look at that? Right, So growing up plants and
- 46:20Speaker 6: where plants didn't name.
- 46:24Speaker 4: The name trees, shrum drum flower, That was me, how
- 46:29Speaker 4: do you how do you know the name of that?
- 46:31Speaker 2: That's what it is.
- 46:32Speaker 6: Really so so it's a very different putting it with
- 46:40Speaker 6: the and you know, and then you also start to
- 46:45Speaker 6: you know, like you just like she knows bloomeria and
- 46:50Speaker 6: appreciate them, especially if they're fragrant. Yeah, but at the
- 46:54Speaker 6: same time, you and I would appreciate them another life
- 46:59Speaker 6: because rarity of.
- 47:01Speaker 4: It, and this one's got a different variegation, like.
- 47:06Speaker 6: For instance, this little drosina our table, you and I
- 47:10Speaker 6: understand the uniqueness of it because we understand early viral
- 47:15Speaker 6: growing one not the norm, not just a basic strappy leafina,
- 47:20Speaker 6: because I mean, drosina is what's the what's the other
- 47:23Speaker 6: not dumbkaing?
- 47:24Speaker 5: No, what's the common name for dressina?
- 47:27Speaker 4: Corn plant?
- 47:28Speaker 5: Corn plant? You know, And people will be like, oh,
- 47:30Speaker 5: that's a corn plant, you know.
- 47:32Speaker 2: And they just I never knew it as a corn plant.
- 47:34Speaker 4: You know.
- 47:34Speaker 6: But yeah, but you know, people, oh, that's a corn
- 47:38Speaker 6: plant whatever, and they just think it's a normal They
- 47:40Speaker 6: put it in one name, one group.
- 47:42Speaker 5: They don't always break it up into a different variety
- 47:45Speaker 5: that they're.
- 47:45Speaker 4: Making leonor does that You can't see us some man
- 47:51Speaker 4: east instant message? Did you get that? Maybe you can
- 47:55Speaker 4: send her the link?
- 47:56Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 47:58Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so so but yeah, you was going to
- 48:00Speaker 3: say you could explain it, but if people listen to us,
- 48:04Speaker 3: there's no reason to explain it, right, So that's what
- 48:08Speaker 3: Tiger's going to do right now.
- 48:10Speaker 2: We've done this before though in.
- 48:11Speaker 3: The past we've used Tiger's page to defeat our have
- 48:15Speaker 3: we years ago and it seems to be holding. So
- 48:21Speaker 3: there is something about our page. Anyway, we got a
- 48:26Speaker 3: couple of minutes before the next break.
- 48:28Speaker 4: I think it's a conspiracy when you get right down
- 48:31Speaker 4: to it. I think there's other garden other garden shows
- 48:35Speaker 4: out there that are trying to shut us down.
- 48:39Speaker 2: Do you call them garden hackers?
- 48:41Speaker 4: They're trying to shut down our gardening voice, Yes, exactly.
- 48:46Speaker 4: I I guess maybe because of the political clim and climate,
- 48:51Speaker 4: but mainly because of the book I'm writing. Everything's a
- 48:55Speaker 4: conspiracy right now?
- 48:57Speaker 5: That's that?
- 48:58Speaker 6: Do you think that that puts you in a different
- 49:01Speaker 6: mind that like you're writing this book?
- 49:03Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, you're creating conspiracy?
- 49:06Speaker 5: You were you?
- 49:07Speaker 4: You're am I creating conspiracies? Or that's already or am
- 49:12Speaker 4: I just discovering ones that are already.
- 49:15Speaker 5: There right there? But like does some degree you have
- 49:19Speaker 5: to create them in your mind to put this paper.
- 49:22Speaker 4: And and you're absolutely right, can you create them without believing?
- 49:29Speaker 3: Believing something just takes one person to say something about
- 49:32Speaker 3: something and then people run with it.
- 49:34Speaker 2: You know, we never landed?
- 49:36Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you know, and the earth is flat?
- 49:42Speaker 3: Okay, wait, what do you do? You just take a
- 49:45Speaker 3: quick break? Okay, but don't don't forget what you and
- 49:48Speaker 3: you imagine? Last things out attacker's Tiger's mouth. Does we
- 49:52Speaker 3: take a break? Bistock ready to Facebook live this regard America?
- 49:55Speaker 3: Bryan made don back Nasco, back of Pelopon back after
- 49:58Speaker 3: these messages on bistalk. Yeah, well guess what we're back? Hey, well, Tiger,
- 50:53Speaker 3: don't go ahead, but taker, oh yeah, okay, go ahead.
- 50:57Speaker 4: John Well, I was just going to mention that, you know,
- 50:59Speaker 4: some Carla just joined us. She just found the link
- 51:03Speaker 4: and I wanted to let people know that if you
- 51:07Speaker 4: miss the first part of the show, it will be
- 51:09Speaker 4: posted on Facebook. Right is that right, Tiger?
- 51:12Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 51:13Speaker 3: So and our YouTube channel this afternoon Right Guarden America
- 51:16Speaker 3: Radio Show on YouTube. You can watch the Yes, you
- 51:18Speaker 3: can go back and see and it's already it's it's
- 51:21Speaker 3: already edited. Oh wow, No breaks know nothing, you just
- 51:25Speaker 3: go All you see is pure show, pure show.
- 51:28Speaker 4: John Carla mentioned the link on Facebook wasn't working for her,
- 51:32Speaker 4: Tiger and Yeah and Tanya had to share it. But
- 51:37Speaker 4: carl also mentioned that she loved the description of Tiger's
- 51:40Speaker 4: gardening method. So she said that there isn't anything she'd
- 51:46Speaker 4: she'd love more than to spend a week, not stop
- 51:49Speaker 4: in the garden, but her energy level and other responsibilities
- 51:52Speaker 4: don't allow it. And so one of the things in
- 51:55Speaker 4: that article that we talked about earlier in the show
- 51:58Speaker 4: is that that Tiger doesn't have a week to spend
- 52:01Speaker 4: it the garden. You know, so he's got five minutes
- 52:05Speaker 4: before he takes the kids somewhere that he'll go out
- 52:07Speaker 4: and deadhead something, or you know, he might say I'm
- 52:11Speaker 4: going to take an hour and I'm going to just
- 52:13Speaker 4: work on this section of the garden. This weekend.
- 52:16Speaker 3: We're one thirty in the morning, when it's quiet, nobody's bothering.
- 52:21Speaker 3: You put some lights on. A little moon like gardening,
- 52:24Speaker 3: A little.
- 52:25Speaker 2: Moon like gardening. There's an idea for an article moon
- 52:27Speaker 2: like gardening.
- 52:28Speaker 4: Well, we've had articles on moon gardening before, which is gardening,
- 52:34Speaker 4: so gardening for the way it will appear at night,
- 52:41Speaker 4: because there's a lot of flowers that open at night
- 52:44Speaker 4: and not so much during the day. As a matter
- 52:46Speaker 4: of fact, there's there's a similar similar to a morning
- 52:52Speaker 4: glory called the moonflower. Yeah, and and those open at night.
- 52:56Speaker 4: And then there's four o'clocks which open at four o'clock.
- 53:00Speaker 3: Now, as far as fragrance is, there certain jasmines that
- 53:03Speaker 3: only fragrented night adjatmine.
- 53:06Speaker 4: Right, there's a lot of plants that are fragrant at night.
- 53:09Speaker 4: And you know why they're fragrant at night, right, because
- 53:13Speaker 4: they are being attracted to all those people that are awaken. Okay, no,
- 53:19Speaker 4: I thought you would have had the correct answer.
- 53:21Speaker 5: I'm just kidding.
- 53:24Speaker 3: But they're fragrant because they're attracted. They want to attract
- 53:28Speaker 3: attract what well, there you go, they want your your
- 53:33Speaker 3: the you are on the right track. They want they
- 53:35Speaker 3: attract pollinators, and they're pollinated by.
- 53:38Speaker 2: Moths, right, they are only they are Nocturns.
- 53:40Speaker 4: That are active at night are bad.
- 53:44Speaker 2: But speaking of that, you were going to put a belfry.
- 53:46Speaker 4: In your house that was in my old toes.
- 53:52Speaker 6: Before I forget, Yes, and I was supposed to remember
- 53:54Speaker 6: this coming We were talking about.
- 53:57Speaker 4: Wow, that that impress Yeah that you can remember that
- 54:00Speaker 4: line where.
- 54:01Speaker 6: You were we were talking about that the prize conspiracy right, yes, okay,
- 54:09Speaker 6: and I'm watching this show right now with Jason Momoa
- 54:15Speaker 6: Hawaii back in the day and stabilize Europeans are starting
- 54:20Speaker 6: to bose them not And imagine in early on somebody
- 54:28Speaker 6: telling you about this fruit or this plane with these thorns,
- 54:34Speaker 6: or it was this crazy color or this animal, you
- 54:38Speaker 6: know what I mean, like and you would think, like,
- 54:39Speaker 6: that's not real. It's a conspiracy theory. They're just making
- 54:42Speaker 6: stuff up that doesn't exist. And then all of a sudden,
- 54:45Speaker 6: one day jos up to you and you see a
- 54:48Speaker 6: pineapple where you see the or you see you know,
- 54:52Speaker 6: corn or whatever it may.
- 54:54Speaker 5: Be, you taste it, you know what I mean, that's
- 54:59Speaker 5: got to.
- 54:59Speaker 3: Be What about all the people that had to taste
- 55:01Speaker 3: something the first time. Yeah, and you sit around going,
- 55:04Speaker 3: what's he doing. Well, it's been a minute since he
- 55:06Speaker 3: took the bike.
- 55:07Speaker 2: How do you feel? All right?
- 55:09Speaker 4: Did you ever read James Mitchener's book Hawaii.
- 55:13Speaker 2: No, but we've talked about just before though.
- 55:15Speaker 4: Well they were. It's about the missionaries going over the
- 55:19Speaker 4: Hawaiian and this one missionary who was like the other
- 55:25Speaker 4: missionaries all developed over the years into normal people. But
- 55:33Speaker 4: Abner Hale kept his like Puritan origin, very strict in
- 55:38Speaker 4: what he was doing. And on the way over, he
- 55:41Speaker 4: knew that the Hawaiians ate bananas, so he made his
- 55:46Speaker 4: wife eat bananas the whole boat trip over them, and
- 55:53Speaker 4: they didn't know they had to be right. So they
- 55:55Speaker 4: were eating like green bananas and she was seasick and
- 55:59Speaker 4: they were all all vomiting.
- 56:03Speaker 5: And then they arrived, they give them to them and
- 56:05Speaker 5: they go.
- 56:06Speaker 4: Well, no, when they arrived, I think they eventually learned
- 56:08Speaker 4: how they were supposed to.
- 56:11Speaker 5: Imagine.
- 56:11Speaker 6: If you did arrive and you're like that this whole time, well.
- 56:15Speaker 4: That that's it's kind of like what you were talking about.
- 56:19Speaker 4: It's like the first time you don't know what to
- 56:21Speaker 4: do if someone gave you a pineapple, would you know
- 56:23Speaker 4: what to.
- 56:24Speaker 2: Do with it?
- 56:24Speaker 5: No, you just can't.
- 56:28Speaker 3: How about like you said, not knowing that bananas riping
- 56:30Speaker 3: off the tree, you know, we have to wait till
- 56:32Speaker 3: they're ripe okay or avocados, I mean all that, having
- 56:37Speaker 3: to learn all that.
- 56:38Speaker 6: Yeah, so definitely I feel probably planned probably one of
- 56:44Speaker 6: the first conspiracy searest thing that people used to be like,
- 56:49Speaker 6: that doesn't that doesn't it's not real.
- 56:51Speaker 3: Or legend, legend, legend you know, there you go, there's
- 56:54Speaker 3: the word, and I'll tell you, I'll tell you speaking
- 56:56Speaker 3: of that, it's just like Kuala bears and silver backed
- 56:59Speaker 3: guerrilla And I used those two as an examples because
- 57:03Speaker 3: people used to talk about them and they thought it
- 57:04Speaker 3: was an urban legend that that until about nineteen hundred,
- 57:08Speaker 3: nobody had seen a gorilla or those that did see
- 57:10Speaker 3: it were far, you know, few and far between, right,
- 57:13Speaker 3: they'd come back with these stories like, oh yeah, a
- 57:16Speaker 3: giant chimpanzee, giant giant you know monkey. Same with Koala bears.
- 57:20Speaker 3: And there's probably a lot of other examples as well.
- 57:22Speaker 4: Well do you remember that scientists, uh when they were
- 57:27Speaker 4: first presented with the Dodo bird thought that it was
- 57:31Speaker 4: a hope, right, that it's been made up, that people
- 57:35Speaker 4: just there's nothing that really looks like and if I'm
- 57:37Speaker 4: not mistaken, the same thing with the duck bill platypus. Yes,
- 57:41Speaker 4: they thought that different parts of the animals had been
- 57:43Speaker 4: put together.
- 57:44Speaker 6: Yeah, but when you go to actually yeah, no, but
- 57:46Speaker 6: you go to the you know, you go to places
- 57:49Speaker 6: in Arizilla or whatever it does they have thosef jakalobe.
- 57:53Speaker 5: Oh yeah, postcards.
- 57:57Speaker 6: Ja.
- 57:58Speaker 5: I was the kid.
- 57:58Speaker 2: I thought they existed.
- 57:59Speaker 3: So we dropping across country my folcus and say, okay,
- 58:01Speaker 3: look real carefully because they're fast.
- 58:04Speaker 5: Look.
- 58:05Speaker 3: And then you go to a shopping there's a picture
- 58:08Speaker 3: that there's a guy next to one with a good
- 58:10Speaker 3: got it?
- 58:13Speaker 4: What about you about a cabra cobra cobra that's like
- 58:19Speaker 4: the uh, those are real?
- 58:20Speaker 5: The Boogyman, Yeah, I mean it's no, it's the it's
- 58:24Speaker 5: the Boogeyman.
- 58:24Speaker 6: It's the monster under your bed.
- 58:31Speaker 3: But there's there's something else that comes out of New Jersey,
- 58:34Speaker 3: the New Jersey Devil or something.
- 58:36Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 58:38Speaker 4: Hey, our buddy Kevin just landed in San Diego. Yeah,
- 58:44Speaker 4: and he wants to know if you're going to be
- 58:46Speaker 4: at the MBAHS reunion that Mission Bay High School.
- 58:50Speaker 2: That would be class.
- 58:51Speaker 3: If that's not my class, this would be nineteen seventy
- 58:56Speaker 3: five for you, seventy four. Uh uh yeah, but I
- 59:01Speaker 3: knew everybody.
- 59:02Speaker 4: Yeah, he won't be there, Kevin. Brian asked, No, Kevin's
- 59:05Speaker 4: going to be there. Yeah, he said he's going to
- 59:08Speaker 4: be there. That's where he's going.
- 59:09Speaker 2: And when is it?
- 59:11Speaker 4: He said, it's it's Uh, I don't know.
- 59:15Speaker 2: He just wants to know if you're I mean, I
- 59:16Speaker 2: knew that it was coming up. I don't know.
- 59:17Speaker 4: I mean, that's why he came to San Diego.
- 59:19Speaker 2: We have to take a break for Bistok Radio.
- 59:22Speaker 4: And also says your house looks like paradise.
- 59:24Speaker 3: We've got two more, yes, two more segments coming up
- 59:27Speaker 3: here on Guard in America. Do you stay where us
- 59:29Speaker 3: taking a break to Bistock Radio. Okay, we are back
- 59:59Speaker 3: from that break, Gatt. We had two more segments until
- 1:00:01Speaker 3: we wrap things up, so it's still a ways to
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: go here on Guard in America. We've got the roving
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: reporter of the roving camera, John, can you pick that
- 1:00:08Speaker 3: up so we can see where Tiger's going? And uh,
- 1:00:14Speaker 3: oh yeah, right there. Oh you have to describe what. Yeah,
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: that's the camera right there. Don't don't hurt yourself.
- 1:00:23Speaker 4: Well, what did we promise listeners that he would show
- 1:00:28Speaker 4: the brown building in the back, which is.
- 1:00:32Speaker 3: You go, okay, so that's well, it's a gazebo in
- 1:00:36Speaker 3: the poolhouse or the guest house.
- 1:00:41Speaker 4: You can, uh, you can see what he's looked like,
- 1:00:43Speaker 4: looks what it looks like because you have the tab.
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just kind of an overview of his backyard there.
- 1:00:48Speaker 4: But you know, Kevin was right that it does look
- 1:00:50Speaker 4: like a bit of paradise. It's definitely that type of garden.
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: It comes across good on camera.
- 1:00:58Speaker 4: And it's amazing what he's done. And I think, look
- 1:01:01Speaker 4: at that, Look at the tomatoes. Look look at that fan.
- 1:01:03Speaker 4: Have you ever seen a fence like that? Well, you know,
- 1:01:04Speaker 4: those tomatoes come up from seed every year.
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: Look at that.
- 1:01:09Speaker 4: The How long has he been here? We had he
- 1:01:12Speaker 4: bought this house after we started the show.
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: What you'd you buy the house? Eight years?
- 1:01:18Speaker 4: About eight years, so he's done a lot in eight years.
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: So really, you know, they say a picture or videos
- 1:01:26Speaker 3: with a thousand words, we're up to nine hundred.
- 1:01:29Speaker 4: Wow, one hundred more to go. One hundred more to
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: get in his yards complete. And look at and look
- 1:01:34Speaker 4: at that steady strong Wi Fi connection. That's good.
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: Here we go. Look at that plamia.
- 1:01:41Speaker 4: Tiger, show him your your potocarpus hedge. Because when Tiger
- 1:01:47Speaker 4: first moved here, he planted all these photocarpus, you know,
- 1:01:50Speaker 4: kind of as a screen, right sure, and it was
- 1:01:53Speaker 4: a dwarf type photocarpus. So because you don't want him
- 1:01:56Speaker 4: to get too huge, but because they were to war
- 1:02:00Speaker 4: if they grows grow slowly. But now after eight years
- 1:02:03Speaker 4: they're starting to fill in. They make making a really
- 1:02:05Speaker 4: nice scream. So much to do and it's never done,
- 1:02:11Speaker 4: it'll become no. And I think Tiger eight years ago
- 1:02:14Speaker 4: was able to get in just as the housing market
- 1:02:17Speaker 4: right right was going up. Now it's almost impossible by
- 1:02:22Speaker 4: a home with this much land in San Diego.
- 1:02:25Speaker 3: This this house was built back in the day when
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: you know you had a decent sized house, but it
- 1:02:30Speaker 3: was mostly all backyard. And here we are, there's the return,
- 1:02:34Speaker 3: there's the Plemaria once again. So there's a good overview
- 1:02:38Speaker 3: of San Diego. Paradise.
- 1:02:43Speaker 4: Paradise Point Resort is down in the back.
- 1:02:46Speaker 3: Exactly now when you go out there, like you just did.
- 1:02:51Speaker 3: Do you ever see like something new or something you
- 1:02:54Speaker 3: didn't notice before?
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: Haiger?
- 1:02:57Speaker 3: So you walk in outside and the next day you
- 1:02:58Speaker 3: walk out, well, what has that been there? Kind of
- 1:03:01Speaker 3: like or when did that die?
- 1:03:03Speaker 5: Oh?
- 1:03:03Speaker 6: We were talking about earlier and we were talking about
- 1:03:05Speaker 6: the Prince Veltzi No.
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: Friends figure Nsigia Prince Vigia.
- 1:03:14Speaker 6: You know, I knew where it was, but then it disappears. Yeah,
- 1:03:18Speaker 6: and so then sometimes I go out there and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah,
- 1:03:21Speaker 6: and I forget it's there.
- 1:03:22Speaker 4: So yeah, that's an extremely rarebule.
- 1:03:25Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:03:26Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I don't know if you can find one
- 1:03:28Speaker 4: anywhere in San Diego. Yeah, So, I mean I could
- 1:03:30Speaker 4: be wrong, you.
- 1:03:31Speaker 6: Know, du So, yeah, I do walk out, I see
- 1:03:34Speaker 6: kind of so, you know, one thing I wonder if
- 1:03:40Speaker 6: I could find it. But earlier this morning, the hummingbird
- 1:03:43Speaker 6: was sitting there watching us on the show, and.
- 1:03:45Speaker 5: I look up in that banana and there's a nest.
- 1:03:48Speaker 6: But they strapped their nest to the lead on the
- 1:03:52Speaker 6: underside of it.
- 1:03:54Speaker 5: They actually like wrapped it to it. So crazy?
- 1:03:57Speaker 4: Was that a hummingbirder?
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: Oriole?
- 1:03:59Speaker 4: Now, because Orioles do that, don't they hang their nests.
- 1:04:03Speaker 5: Have you seen orioles here?
- 1:04:05Speaker 4: They're small, but they're they're a lot bigger than a
- 1:04:08Speaker 4: hummingbird nest.
- 1:04:09Speaker 3: Yeah, no, this was definitely that's a smaller nest. I
- 1:04:15Speaker 3: mean it sounds like a hummingbird that's small. You know
- 1:04:18Speaker 3: what's interesting now that we are.
- 1:04:19Speaker 4: Hardball or softball softball coffee oreole.
- 1:04:23Speaker 3: You know softball's too big for you said that you
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: haven't seen an oriole since Baltimore, going back a year now,
- 1:04:31Speaker 3: since we've decided to.
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: Feed all the wildlife.
- 1:04:33Speaker 3: Yeah, we're seeing birds that I've never seen before, and
- 1:04:37Speaker 3: orioles black yellow. And it's only because they have the
- 1:04:42Speaker 3: word's gotten out that this is where you go to
- 1:04:44Speaker 3: take a bath in the fountain, get a drink of water,
- 1:04:46Speaker 3: and eat.
- 1:04:47Speaker 5: This is the birds.
- 1:04:48Speaker 3: So so aside from the finches, the robins, sparrows, FROs
- 1:04:52Speaker 3: and anything else you can think of that's real common
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: and amongst them.
- 1:05:00Speaker 5: Because I got the message.
- 1:05:01Speaker 3: Well yeah, because it's like, well where have you been?
- 1:05:03Speaker 3: You're on some bird kind of list, you know, trip advice.
- 1:05:10Speaker 6: Yeah, where it's like they log on and there there's
- 1:05:13Speaker 6: where's stop on the way to see?
- 1:05:16Speaker 3: Well, this has four stars exactly but speaking of hummingbirds,
- 1:05:22Speaker 3: they could be vicious.
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: Oh yeah, fighting each other. Oh yeah yeah.
- 1:05:28Speaker 4: By the way, there's a message for you, Brian, Yes,
- 1:05:33Speaker 4: Brandon Blaylock's house tonight, five o'clock.
- 1:05:37Speaker 5: There.
- 1:05:38Speaker 4: You know everybody that's going to be there.
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: I guess I do.
- 1:05:41Speaker 5: Yeah, we're.
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: The nest.
- 1:05:48Speaker 4: Oh he's looking for the Yeah, for the hummingbird nest. Yeah,
- 1:05:52Speaker 4: you know the way I can be wrong, but the
- 1:05:54Speaker 4: way he's describing me, and it sounds like an oriole
- 1:05:56Speaker 4: nest to me.
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: But that doesn't sound I mean, how big is softball
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: or hardball? What did he say? How big?
- 1:06:04Speaker 4: He said softball?
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: Well that's fairly large.
- 1:06:07Speaker 4: Yeah, hardball. It could be a hummingbird.
- 1:06:10Speaker 3: But he's never seen orioles around here. Oh, you never know,
- 1:06:17Speaker 3: you never know what's lurking. I remember one time, not
- 1:06:21Speaker 3: too long ago, tiger, because of course we have a
- 1:06:23Speaker 3: humming bird here and I was putting it back up.
- 1:06:26Speaker 3: We just build it up. As I put it back up,
- 1:06:29Speaker 3: two humming out of my army just stop. Yeah, and
- 1:06:37Speaker 3: they hopped off.
- 1:06:40Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:06:40Speaker 6: But I mean, wow, you're yeah, never been hurt by
- 1:06:46Speaker 6: you don't know any better. And if it and if
- 1:06:48Speaker 6: it's where your food is Yeah, yeah, there's a guy
- 1:06:51Speaker 6: that puts the phone up there.
- 1:06:52Speaker 4: Don't you think that most animals have a natural fear
- 1:06:55Speaker 4: of man though?
- 1:06:56Speaker 5: Do you think so? I don't think so.
- 1:06:59Speaker 3: I think if they've had you mean, built in instinct,
- 1:07:01Speaker 3: I think we are very.
- 1:07:03Speaker 4: You're thinking like the Galopogos where all the animals are
- 1:07:06Speaker 4: not afraid of people because they had never seen you
- 1:07:09Speaker 4: never seen them.
- 1:07:10Speaker 6: I don't think humans are scared a bear.
- 1:07:16Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's birds that will go and crocodile's mouths
- 1:07:20Speaker 4: and neat and pick their teeth.
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: Yeah you know, well that's relationship.
- 1:07:24Speaker 5: But yeah, but it's different. They grew up learning that
- 1:07:27Speaker 5: from here. But what I'm getting it is is not.
- 1:07:33Speaker 6: We don't have like we're bigger than Don't get me wrong,
- 1:07:35Speaker 6: Like there's other there are animals.
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: Are scary about it, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, So when.
- 1:07:42Speaker 6: I don't think people are scared of them, when you
- 1:07:45Speaker 6: you know, the scared, I don't think people are. I
- 1:07:48Speaker 6: don't think animals are scared of humans because when you
- 1:07:50Speaker 6: first see this, it's like we don't have claws, big key,
- 1:07:54Speaker 6: it doesn't.
- 1:07:55Speaker 3: I'll give give an example. You know, I've talked about
- 1:07:57Speaker 3: it for the past five or six year. The doves
- 1:08:00Speaker 3: every year that build their nest. Okay, at some point
- 1:08:03Speaker 3: they had to decide that we are not as because
- 1:08:06Speaker 3: the nest is right in front of me. I can
- 1:08:07Speaker 3: reach up. The motherbird sits there, mate flies back and forth.
- 1:08:11Speaker 3: They raise their kids. Kids are in the patio for
- 1:08:14Speaker 3: the kids.
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: Don't know.
- 1:08:15Speaker 3: They're not afraid. They're not afraid of us because they
- 1:08:17Speaker 3: grew up, they were born there. It's after a period
- 1:08:20Speaker 3: of time some of the other wild birds.
- 1:08:22Speaker 4: Don't you think that door gets around. Hey, they're not scary,
- 1:08:26Speaker 4: but they got cats if that door ever opened.
- 1:08:31Speaker 3: Glass door is cat TV. But yeah, I think there's
- 1:08:34Speaker 3: a lot to be said about.
- 1:08:36Speaker 4: What about road runners You can't get near You look
- 1:08:40Speaker 4: at it and it's one hundred yards a.
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: Naturally, Yeah, they run from every especially coyotes.
- 1:08:53Speaker 4: They're pretty they It's not unusual to see a road
- 1:09:00Speaker 4: runner at my house with a lizard and its mouth.
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: Really.
- 1:09:04Speaker 4: Yeah, by the way, I've got some bad news, you
- 1:09:06Speaker 4: know how I'm every finishing the landscape in my house
- 1:09:11Speaker 4: and up on the top where the rose bed is,
- 1:09:15Speaker 4: uh is finally coming to being finished in that area.
- 1:09:19Speaker 4: I had a gopher and I haven't caught a gopher
- 1:09:23Speaker 4: in like six six months. Yeah, I haven't had any.
- 1:09:27Speaker 5: Well, he what was your countupt means?
- 1:09:31Speaker 4: So anyway, I can't reproduce fast enough. I set the
- 1:09:34Speaker 4: trap last night and we'll see what happened.
- 1:09:37Speaker 5: But but the nice thing about it is, once you
- 1:09:39Speaker 5: have one, it's easy.
- 1:09:41Speaker 4: To get one at a time, to get ten at
- 1:09:43Speaker 4: a time as bad.
- 1:09:44Speaker 3: So you you basically have maybe not surely controlled.
- 1:09:50Speaker 4: Yeah, by the way I was, I was just thinking,
- 1:09:54Speaker 4: I've got to get some ground squirrels now that are
- 1:09:56Speaker 4: down by the chicken coop. But I wonder if our
- 1:09:59Speaker 4: listeners would be interested in having guests on the show
- 1:10:06Speaker 4: that talks about chickens. Yeah. Uh, you know, she does coops,
- 1:10:10Speaker 4: she raises chickens, and she's geared or she works in
- 1:10:14Speaker 4: San Diego, but she's geared for a house like here,
- 1:10:18Speaker 4: you know where somebody might yeah, urban chicken.
- 1:10:21Speaker 6: I think a lot of people are because they I
- 1:10:23Speaker 6: think they kind of get uh intimidated by group raising.
- 1:10:27Speaker 3: We're gonna we're gonna take a break. One more segment, guys,
- 1:10:30Speaker 3: how about that? As you know, one more segment coming up.
- 1:10:33Speaker 3: We're gonna take a break for Bizcock Radio. I'm Brian Main,
- 1:10:35Speaker 3: John te Nascar techan This day is Garden America Anyway.
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: A break, final segment Power two the talk radio Basic Live.
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: Some people that eventually find us figure from going from
- 1:11:12Speaker 2: one taste.
- 1:11:12Speaker 3: To the other with the link that you have put
- 1:11:14Speaker 3: in there. So thank you for joining us.
- 1:11:18Speaker 6: And you know, we were just talking before the break
- 1:11:21Speaker 6: about having a guest.
- 1:11:23Speaker 2: On chicken tickets.
- 1:11:26Speaker 4: Carlo wants to talk about how to cook them.
- 1:11:29Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there there there's multiple uses.
- 1:11:33Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I'm I'm curious.
- 1:11:35Speaker 6: But I think a lot of people are intimidating by
- 1:11:38Speaker 6: tickets because they think that, you know, how do I
- 1:11:41Speaker 6: raise it something they don't know? Right, like what are
- 1:11:44Speaker 6: the things that here raised it? And then back I
- 1:11:48Speaker 6: think most people raise chicks.
- 1:11:52Speaker 4: Right.
- 1:11:53Speaker 5: So then again people, well I'm actually a product of
- 1:11:59Speaker 5: so new to them.
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: Once you name it, you can't eat you know.
- 1:12:04Speaker 4: It's funny because our friend Kathy that had joined us today,
- 1:12:09Speaker 4: that was that was her saying that if she gives
- 1:12:12Speaker 4: something a name, she can't eat it. So the first
- 1:12:15Speaker 4: thing she did was name every chicken that was that hat.
- 1:12:19Speaker 4: But she's a wonderful oh, yeah, you.
- 1:12:22Speaker 3: Don't name your chickens at the nursery, right, they just
- 1:12:23Speaker 3: want or do you know we name our chickens.
- 1:12:26Speaker 6: Oh okay, yeah we don't. Those are eggs and there
- 1:12:29Speaker 6: is a difference. And meat chickens why forever.
- 1:12:38Speaker 4: Untill they're pick enough to kill.
- 1:12:40Speaker 6: You know, but but you don't you don't keep them
- 1:12:43Speaker 6: alive longer than that because then it doesn't goodness. Okay,
- 1:12:50Speaker 6: so there is a peak time harvest.
- 1:12:55Speaker 2: Which she can talk about that as well.
- 1:12:57Speaker 5: Yeah, but.
- 1:12:59Speaker 6: Chickens are fun to have and you know they can
- 1:13:05Speaker 6: yeah and people, Yeah, a little bit removed from your house.
- 1:13:11Speaker 6: They have personality. They do have personality.
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: Every animal has a personality in ours.
- 1:13:15Speaker 4: Are all names too, are they? Yeah? As a matter
- 1:13:18Speaker 4: of fact, my uh daughter and daughter in law when
- 1:13:21Speaker 4: she lived there, had put up a sign and all
- 1:13:23Speaker 4: their names are on there. You have.
- 1:13:29Speaker 5: What's your favorite? Who?
- 1:13:31Speaker 6: You know?
- 1:13:33Speaker 4: I don't know. There there's a few that were we
- 1:13:38Speaker 4: hatched ourselves after they after Michelle had laughed, so those
- 1:13:43Speaker 4: didn't get tame and they're afraid of you. So there's
- 1:13:47Speaker 4: maybe three that are like that that just take off.
- 1:13:51Speaker 4: But then there's others who have been there from the beginning,
- 1:13:54Speaker 4: like Helen and Chocobu, and they'll come up to you.
- 1:14:01Speaker 4: They'll lead out of your hand and they follow you
- 1:14:03Speaker 4: while you were Now we we don't let them out because.
- 1:14:09Speaker 2: There's a lot going on.
- 1:14:10Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot going on. But I would like
- 1:14:13Speaker 4: to make a chicken run someday. Yeah, yeah, if is
- 1:14:24Speaker 4: the work you do.
- 1:14:25Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's exactly what chickens.
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: Didn't it be free range? Well down the.
- 1:14:32Speaker 4: Yeah, down there where the roses and five gallon cans are.
- 1:14:36Speaker 4: When I would let them out, I'd lift up a
- 1:14:39Speaker 4: pod and there'd be style books under there, and they
- 1:14:41Speaker 4: just went crazy.
- 1:14:42Speaker 5: Yeah they would.
- 1:14:44Speaker 4: Yeah, and again they'd be free range chickens, except for
- 1:14:47Speaker 4: Helen would just take off after a while, really yeah,
- 1:14:50Speaker 4: and go over to the neighbor's house. It's like everybody
- 1:14:53Speaker 4: else would stay around the coupe.
- 1:14:54Speaker 2: And Tiger promised us a military lie over.
- 1:15:03Speaker 4: Didn't I tell you that they would eventually find our
- 1:15:05Speaker 4: podcast try to shut us down. By the way, KYLEA
- 1:15:09Speaker 4: pointed out Tiger, And and now that I think of it,
- 1:15:12Speaker 4: she's absolutely right. A humming bird's nest is almost the
- 1:15:16Speaker 4: size of a ping pong ball. It's certainly not a softball.
- 1:15:21Speaker 4: I think it was an Oriole name because that's that's
- 1:15:23Speaker 4: how they build their nests.
- 1:15:26Speaker 2: Keep looking for orioles.
- 1:15:27Speaker 4: Yeah, Brian says, since you haven't seen the orioles that
- 1:15:30Speaker 4: I'm probably wrong.
- 1:15:31Speaker 3: But oh, I just it's interesting. If it is an
- 1:15:34Speaker 3: Oriole nest, what other birds would it be? But he'll
- 1:15:39Speaker 3: be California conder. No, don't build a huge wings brand.
- 1:15:46Speaker 3: You're not an ornithologist, right ornithologist?
- 1:15:50Speaker 4: Yeah, well we had we've had meetings with ornithology. Remember
- 1:15:55Speaker 4: waldly Cox. Wally Cox, who is oh random.
- 1:16:01Speaker 2: Only a few people are going to appreciate that.
- 1:16:03Speaker 4: Who would I can't even remember his name, but he
- 1:16:06Speaker 4: was the ornithologist for Scott's Fertilizer company. Remember see his face?
- 1:16:14Speaker 2: Yeah? Yes, we were back touring with him, right we we.
- 1:16:19Speaker 4: And he was an exp being an expert on birds.
- 1:16:22Speaker 4: He was working on their bird feed.
- 1:16:25Speaker 3: We had it so so basically different types of bird
- 1:16:29Speaker 3: speed or food for different regions.
- 1:16:34Speaker 2: And we went out there and he showed us that
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: was interesting.
- 1:16:37Speaker 3: Yeah, I would attract those birds.
- 1:16:40Speaker 4: Look right for this area. And you know, I guess
- 1:16:47Speaker 4: not everyone remembers, but the cheaper the bird seed usually
- 1:16:52Speaker 4: the less likely birds are to eat it because the
- 1:16:55Speaker 4: cheapest seed is milo and milo is a great filler.
- 1:16:59Speaker 2: But birds do not, my love, So let's filler the better.
- 1:17:03Speaker 6: There's it all over the news. There's a huge migration.
- 1:17:08Speaker 6: They were talking about.
- 1:17:09Speaker 4: No, but somebody posted that online and I wasn't about
- 1:17:13Speaker 4: what migration.
- 1:17:15Speaker 6: Well, there's a huge migration of of birds and other
- 1:17:19Speaker 6: insects and stuff happening right now on the coast. Because
- 1:17:21Speaker 6: the reason why I got I remember, John, are you
- 1:17:26Speaker 6: such fast creations that they were black?
- 1:17:29Speaker 2: Well those are pigeons, passenger pigeons.
- 1:17:32Speaker 6: But this isn't just one brietay, multiple migration and like
- 1:17:36Speaker 6: that's need that kind of happening.
- 1:17:40Speaker 5: Ope, it's problem.
- 1:17:43Speaker 4: Because of these.
- 1:17:46Speaker 5: Ext but but I'm sure that's pretty impressive.
- 1:17:50Speaker 6: Bird all these different prices.
- 1:17:56Speaker 2: That's gonna do it. Guys, so far, so good, So
- 1:17:59Speaker 2: thank you so much. Time. Can we do it again here?
- 1:18:01Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 1:18:02Speaker 2: This is nice, love it.
- 1:18:03Speaker 5: I'm gonna work on the America.
- 1:18:07Speaker 3: Yeah the link this week you fixed one thing. Yeah
- 1:18:12Speaker 3: it's something else. I don't know what you fix this,
- 1:18:15Speaker 3: but now look what you did over here. Hey, thank
- 1:18:17Speaker 3: you so much for joining us those on biz talk Radio,
- 1:18:19Speaker 3: Facebook Live.
- 1:18:20Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 1:18:20Speaker 3: We'll do it again next weekend from some place. See
- 1:18:23Speaker 3: that's that's the mystery. That's the cool part about it.
- 1:18:25Speaker 3: We don't know where we'll be next week, but will
- 1:18:27Speaker 3: be someplace because wherever we go, there we are. John,
- 1:18:30Speaker 3: take care, have a great week, and enjoy the rest
- 1:18:32Speaker 3: of your weekend, and we'll do it again. I'm Brian Maine,
- 1:18:34Speaker 3: John BG Nascar, Tucket, Pela Fox. Thanks for tuning in
- 1:18:37Speaker 3: to Garden America to take care,