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Barefoot tot-boy in diaper found alone in parking lot. WHAT HAPPENED TO MOMMY Leila Cavett? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A two year old little
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  Speaker 1: boy wandering and a parking lot. Now, if that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: make you stop in your tracks, It's happened to me,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll look, where's mom, Where's dad, where's babysitter until
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  Speaker 1: I find them? Right Well, when this happened, there was
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  Speaker 1: no dad, there was no mom, there was no babysitter
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  Speaker 1: in sight. And I'm going to tell you why. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
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  Speaker 1: with us here at Fox Nation and Sirius XM one eleven.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I'll take a listen to our friends
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  Speaker 1: at WSV and Fox seven. This little boy was found
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  Speaker 1: roaming the street behind us here. Who is he? Who
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  Speaker 1: are his parents? That's what Mirramar police are trying to
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  Speaker 1: figure out. They gave us some video of the little boy.
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  Speaker 1: The video was taken not long after he was found
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  Speaker 1: in the area of eighteen sixty Southwest sixty eighth Avenue.
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  Speaker 1: Police believe he's two to three years old. He was
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  Speaker 1: wearing only a T shirt and diapers, no shoes. Police
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  Speaker 1: have been going door to door with flyers hoping to
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  Speaker 1: find the child's family, but so far, no luck. Ebony
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  Speaker 1: Williams is the person who found the child called for help.
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  Speaker 1: When I got out of my car, I heard the
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  Speaker 1: baby crying, so I walked over and I realized he
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  Speaker 1: was by hisself. I asked them, you know, where's your mommy?
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  Speaker 1: And he kind of just pointed kind of like everywhere,
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  Speaker 1: and I reached out my hand for him. He grabbed
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  Speaker 1: my hand, and I just walked around the complex, hoping
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  Speaker 1: that I would find somebody looking for him or calling
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  Speaker 1: his name, and that never happened. You're hearing the voice
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  Speaker 1: of a good Samaritan, Ebony william speaking with SEVENS Jessica Holly.
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  Speaker 1: That disturbs me. It actually hurts because I'm thinking of
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  Speaker 1: my twins, John David and Lucy at two years old.
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  Speaker 1: Lucy had just started walking, just started walking, and they
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  Speaker 1: were still wobbling on their feet and legs, and this
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  Speaker 1: good samaritan, Ebony Williams, ask where's mommy? And the little
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  Speaker 1: boy just kind of points everywhere. And that's what I
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  Speaker 1: want to know today. Where is mommy? With me? An
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  Speaker 1: all star panel to break it down and put it
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  Speaker 1: back together again. Long time trial lawyer, defense attorney, family
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  Speaker 1: lawyer specialist Randy Kessler joining me out of the Atlanta jurisdiction.
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Daniel Bober were now forensic psychiatrists joining me out
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  Speaker 1: of Florida. You can find him on instat at doctor
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Bober. James shell Nutt twenty seven years on Metro
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  Speaker 1: major case now lawyer at shell nut Lawfirm dot com,
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  Speaker 1: but first to online dot com investigative reporter Levi Page, LEVI,
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  Speaker 1: tell me what happened? Now? This is in Mirrormar. Correct,
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  Speaker 1: you're CRT Nancy So July twenty six. Wait minute, whoa
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  Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
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  Speaker 1: wait wait wait hold your horses. Did you ever see
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  Speaker 1: that program? I was just talking about it City Confidential
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  Speaker 1: with Bill Curtis. I watched that incessantly when I'd be
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  Speaker 1: working out with my now husband. And you start with this,
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  Speaker 1: it's great, and you start with the city and the
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  Speaker 1: area and you try to figure out put yourself there, Levi.
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  Speaker 1: This is Miramar, Florida, which is South Florida, which is
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  Speaker 1: kind of like a bedroom community. I think of Miami.
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  Speaker 1: Population about one hundred and twenty thousand people, not big,
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  Speaker 1: and we're in some parking lot. Okay, take it from there,
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  Speaker 1: leave for sure, What kind of parking lot was it?
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  Speaker 1: Was it Walmart? Was it Target? Was it some fancy
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  Speaker 1: mall like Neiman Marcus? Was it an apartment? What kind
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  Speaker 1: of a parking lot wasn't it was the parking lot
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  Speaker 1: of Edge apartments in Miramar, Florida, halfway between Fort Lauderdale
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  Speaker 1: and Miami. And this woman discovered a little boy, curly hair,
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  Speaker 1: He was barefoot, and he was wandering around this parking lot.
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  Speaker 1: She reached her hand out, he grabbed her hand, and
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  Speaker 1: she said, where is your mommy? And he couldn't talk
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  Speaker 1: very well, so he's obviously very young, a toddler, and
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  Speaker 1: she called police. She changed his diaper and police got there.
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  Speaker 1: They couldn't get much information out of him, so he
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  Speaker 1: was sent to a Florida Department of Families and Children.
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  Speaker 1: Right there, Randy Kessler, how much God was watching out
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  Speaker 1: for this little boy. Anybody could have gotten that boy,
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  Speaker 1: some perv could have gotten him, Someone could have taken
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  Speaker 1: him and he would never have been seen again. You
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  Speaker 1: know that happens every day. You know, when I first
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  Speaker 1: prosecuted child rape cases, I prosecuted them as statutory rape.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't call it child sex trafficking then, but that's
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  Speaker 1: what it is now. And to think this two year
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  Speaker 1: old little boy, can you hear that with the curly
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  Speaker 1: hair and the T shirt tells me a lot, Randy Kessler.
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  Speaker 1: But he was out in nothing but a dipe and
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  Speaker 1: no shoes. But I'll go into the forensic signals later.
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  Speaker 1: But Randy, family Law, what will people give on today's
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  Speaker 1: black market to adopt a two year old little boy
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  Speaker 1: with beautiful early hair? How much money? Kesler? Go ahead,
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  Speaker 1: tell me sixty seventy eighty grand? Thank goodness. I have
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  Speaker 1: no idea and I had no interest. Yes, you do
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  Speaker 1: a lot of money. It's a lot of money, and
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  Speaker 1: that's why we're spending so much money and resources on
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  Speaker 1: trying to prevent that kind of stuff. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: the civil lining is that the child was down right,
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  Speaker 1: So what does that change matter? Are you trying to
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  Speaker 1: tell me you don't know about a black market adoption?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't know if I don't
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  Speaker 1: know the reach, and I don't know the going rates.
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  Speaker 1: And I had no interest to know because one dollars
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  Speaker 1: too much and it shouldn't be out there. But you're right,
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of you've never had a family
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  Speaker 1: fight over custody of a cute little baby. I when
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  Speaker 1: you put it like that, right, lawyer fees and what
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  Speaker 1: they would spend to take Cuffy to their own child.
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  Speaker 1: They'll spend everything. It's of thousands of dollars to fight. However,
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  Speaker 1: if you get joint, or if you get every other weekend,
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  Speaker 1: if you get every weekend, if you get Tuesday through
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  Speaker 1: Thursday or Friday through blah blah blah, you know what.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stay married, okay, because I just can't
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  Speaker 1: go through it. H James shell Nut. How much would
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  Speaker 1: this child go for on the black market adoption? I
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  Speaker 1: mean it could be up to sixty eighty grand depending
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  Speaker 1: on Oh absolutely, And you know you actually have reports
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  Speaker 1: of sites online now on the black Web where people
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  Speaker 1: actually did and the child is to the highest bidder um.
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  Speaker 1: It would have been a lot. So it's such a
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  Speaker 1: joy talking to you, shell Nut. I mean, I hadn't
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  Speaker 1: even thought about a bid like in the movie with bookshelves,
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  Speaker 1: Pretty Baby, remember that Jackie where everybody bid on bookshelves.
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  Speaker 1: I only know about it. I didn't see it, but
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  Speaker 1: I do know the plotline. I didn't know that shut up,
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  Speaker 1: people actually bid online to get a child. Oh absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: You know, some people are desperate, some people are evil,
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  Speaker 1: and some people are both. Take a listen to our
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  Speaker 1: friends at w PLG Local ten. This is LeAnn more
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  Speaker 1: Jean Police and mirramar say they now know who this
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  Speaker 1: little boy and his mother aren't right now, they're looking
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  Speaker 1: for twenty one year old Layla Cavitt. She's missing and
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  Speaker 1: her two year old son was found at a Miramar
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  Speaker 1: apartment complex Sunday morning. His name is Camden Cavott Arnold.
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  Speaker 1: Miramar Police shared his photo to social media and it
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  Speaker 1: went viral, the image eventually reaching Cabot's sisters, like, no
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  Speaker 1: question in my mind, But the question is why are
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  Speaker 1: they in Florida. In Florida more than twelve hours away
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  Speaker 1: from home in Jasper, Alabama. They say the family has
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  Speaker 1: no connections to South Florida by the middle of a pandemic,
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  Speaker 1: so it's not like she was taking a vacation just
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  Speaker 1: out of the blue. Camden was found here in the
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  Speaker 1: parking lot of the Edge apartment complex by a woman
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  Speaker 1: who just left home to run an errand I asked them,
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  Speaker 1: you know, where's your mommy? And he kind of just pointed,
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  Speaker 1: kind of like everywhere, but it seemed the boy was
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  Speaker 1: all alone. So Emman he called police, investigators, created flyers,
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  Speaker 1: went door to door and posted on social media. It
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  Speaker 1: was because the post went viral. Now were you ben
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  Speaker 1: able to see him? Crime stories with Nancy Grace, Guys,
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  Speaker 1: we were talking about a little two year old, curly
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  Speaker 1: headed boy who was found wearing nothing but a tank top,
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  Speaker 1: no shoes, no socks, nothing else. And he couldn't communicate
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  Speaker 1: where he lived, where he's from, his mommy's name, nothing.
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  Speaker 1: He could give no leads whatsoever. So to you, James
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  Speaker 1: shell Nutt twenty seven years Metro major case now lawyer
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  Speaker 1: at shell nut Law Firm dot com, that's the conundrum,
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  Speaker 1: how do you identify this missing baby? We know now
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  Speaker 1: how it happened, We know now that the photo was
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  Speaker 1: released online, and I remember when a high happened just
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  Speaker 1: not too long ago and it went viral. Of everybody's
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  Speaker 1: trying to identify this baby. And you know, Shelnut, do
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  Speaker 1: you know how many times between Court TV and hl
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  Speaker 1: in and oxygen in here and that I've put out
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  Speaker 1: a picture of a child and no one has ever
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  Speaker 1: identified the child. So where do you start when you're
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  Speaker 1: trying to identify an unknown child and the child cannot communicate. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think I think the police did a great job
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  Speaker 1: here they say an example of what you should do.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they started passing out this child's picture immediately
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  Speaker 1: to the media but social media, both on television, and
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  Speaker 1: they got been a great job of disseminating this child's picture. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate the patting on the back to all your
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  Speaker 1: friends in the police force, and I'm happy for you.
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  Speaker 1: But let me get back to the question. Okay, if
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  Speaker 1: I had you understand, I go objection non responsive. I'll
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  Speaker 1: repeat the question. Where typically when you don't have a
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  Speaker 1: child police, when you don't have a name or a child,
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  Speaker 1: do police start to identify the child? Well, you start
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  Speaker 1: by taking a look, obviously after dissembling that information, you
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  Speaker 1: start by taking a look at where that child was
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  Speaker 1: found and seeing if anyone around where this child was
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  Speaker 1: found nose this child has seen this child about exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And here's the kicker. You heard what the sister said.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to WSVN Fox News. This is Katrina
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  Speaker 1: bush Mere mart Police officers were back in the neighborhood
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  Speaker 1: where a woman found a child wandering alone detectives confirmed
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  Speaker 1: they're reviewing surveillance video again as they investigate the disappearance
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  Speaker 1: of his mother. Still no word on twenty one year
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  Speaker 1: old Leila Covette. Detectives tell seven News she had been
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  Speaker 1: driving this white Chevy thirty five hundred truck mid to
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  Speaker 1: late nineties model with a maroon or red tailgate and
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  Speaker 1: a baby on board sign. I definitely just wanna know
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  Speaker 1: that my sister is okay. That's our main concern and
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  Speaker 1: only concern right now. Cavitt's family arrived in South Florida
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  Speaker 1: yesterday from Alabama after finding out what was going on online.
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  Speaker 1: The last time the family heard from her was over
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  Speaker 1: the weekend through Facebook. She said, our grandmother thumbs up
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  Speaker 1: on Facebook is the last contact that we've known. So
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  Speaker 1: did you hear that, guys? Let me Crime online dot
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  Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter LEVI, the mom of this little boy
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  Speaker 1: is Leela cavt And did I hear her sister say?
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  Speaker 1: She lived twelve hours away from where the baby was found,
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  Speaker 1: so she had been living at Jasper and recently moved
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  Speaker 1: to Dawsonville, Georgia, which is seven hundred miles away from
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  Speaker 1: South Florida and our drive. Yeah, I heard the sisters
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  Speaker 1: say twelve, so that you must be taking into account
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  Speaker 1: her recent move to Dawsonville. And as the sister of
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  Speaker 1: Lela Cavitt pointed out, in the middle of coronavirus, she
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  Speaker 1: wasn't taking a vacation or traveling at all. So how
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  Speaker 1: does this little boy end up alone with no shoes,
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  Speaker 1: wearing only a diaper and a T shirt, wandering in
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  Speaker 1: the edge apartment building parking lot to be found happenstance
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  Speaker 1: by a good samaritan, Ebony Williams. That's my question. And
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  Speaker 1: where is Leela Cabot? Now let me go back to you,
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  Speaker 1: LEVI page Crime on Line. Explain to me the last
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  Speaker 1: known contact with mommy. So it was with her grandmother.
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  Speaker 1: Her grandmother lives in Nashville. And she said on July
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  Speaker 1: twenty six, which is the same day that Camden was
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  Speaker 1: found wondering in this apartment complex parking lot, she got
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  Speaker 1: a thumbs up on Facebook messenger from Leela. That's very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: It's an emoji that says thumbs up. I have twelve
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  Speaker 1: year old twins. I know what emo's are. I just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to make sure. Although their father says something like
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  Speaker 1: emagi or or image or something like that, and they
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  Speaker 1: have been having a field day with that ever since
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  Speaker 1: doctor Daniel Bober joining me forensic Psychiatrists. You can follow
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  Speaker 1: him on Insta at doctor Daniel Bober. Doctor Bober, you
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  Speaker 1: know what's interesting about that last known communication with mommy
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  Speaker 1: Leela Cavitt. It was just the thumbs up emoji, That's
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  Speaker 1: all it was. It wasn't hey guys, I'm driving the
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  Speaker 1: baby down to Florida, or I'm going on a road trip,
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  Speaker 1: or everything's cool, let's get together this weekend, mom, nothing
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  Speaker 1: like that. It was just an emoji. What does that
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  Speaker 1: say to you, Doctor Daniel Bober. It says to me
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  Speaker 1: that maybe it wasn't her who says it. That is
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  Speaker 1: totally generic and it's not, you know, something that would
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  Speaker 1: be expected from someone who have a close relationship with
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  Speaker 1: There's no d tell. It's just something that could have
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  Speaker 1: been done by anybody, you know. I was just thinking,
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe i've and we text all the time,
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  Speaker 1: not a lot of phone calls, but we text a
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  Speaker 1: lot during the day, back and forth between me and
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  Speaker 1: my husband David, and even if I go jogging on
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  Speaker 1: a walk, I text back and forth with the twins
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  Speaker 1: the whole time. I don't believe either of us have
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  Speaker 1: ever sent a thumbs up to each other. Jackie, if
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  Speaker 1: I ever sent you a thumbs up? Have you ever
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  Speaker 1: sent me a thumbs up? No? Have we? John? Really? No? Brett, No,
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  Speaker 1: that's odd, that's very odd. Indeed, the thumbs upside. Randy
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  Speaker 1: Kessler joining me, defense attorney in multiple jurisdictions and family
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  Speaker 1: law specialist. Randy, You and I have seen on many investigations,
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  Speaker 1: as have you, shell nutt where someone hijacks your laptop
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  Speaker 1: or your iPad or your phone, and to cover their tracks,
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  Speaker 1: they start communicating with your loved ones. They'll look at
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  Speaker 1: your last text and they'll just send that person an emoji,
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  Speaker 1: a smiley face, or a hard or thumbs up in
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  Speaker 1: this case, to give the appearance the person is still alive.
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  Speaker 1: That takes a lot of cunning. Would you agree or disagree?
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  Speaker 1: Randy Kessler? Oh, we've seen a lot more than that.
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  Speaker 1: You've seen them create, you know, harsh words and alienation
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  Speaker 1: and saying you'll never see your child again, and pretend
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  Speaker 1: that it came from their spouse to be able to
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  Speaker 1: prove that their spouse is alienating the child. So this
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  Speaker 1: is minor, This is believable. That they just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: drag it on and delay the police and the authorities
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  Speaker 1: from coming after them and saying everything's okay, and give
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  Speaker 1: them a head start to wherever they were going. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: that's an explanation. So you're telling me, in divorce cases,
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  Speaker 1: one parent will pretend to be the other parent and
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  Speaker 1: send in reality themselves lewd or threatening emails or texts
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  Speaker 1: to make it look bad for their spouse in coort.
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  Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying, Not only that they'll hire people,
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  Speaker 1: they'll they'll buy apps, or they'll even they'll even post
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  Speaker 1: on their spouse of social media as if they are
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  Speaker 1: their spouse and then uses as evidence. What did you
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  Speaker 1: just say about buying an app? They're looking for apps,
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  Speaker 1: they're looking for devices, ways to go in, and they're
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  Speaker 1: paying their people, their professionals, they'll do this for them.
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  Speaker 1: They will say, I don't know what you mean by
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  Speaker 1: buying an app. How does buying an app help you
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  Speaker 1: commit this fraud? It helps you create an alibi or
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  Speaker 1: lets you have an alias, or let you send an
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  Speaker 1: email that looks like it came from your spouse when
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  Speaker 1: it really came from you. You have your husband's name
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  Speaker 1: an email going to you, so it looks like he
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  Speaker 1: wrote to an email saying you will never see your
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  Speaker 1: children again. And you show that to the judge and said,
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  Speaker 1: look at what my husband well mean when really the
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  Speaker 1: app or the platform lets you create the alias email?
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  Speaker 1: What app with that? They I've never I don't know
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  Speaker 1: about that app, don't I don't know what either. I
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  Speaker 1: just know it exist and I've had specialist is that
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  Speaker 1: she'll not jumping in. No, Nancy, it's LEVI. There's like
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  Speaker 1: spoof abs that you can download on the okay someone's email.
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  Speaker 1: You know. It concerns me that you know that Crime
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  Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're talking about a gorgeous
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  Speaker 1: young mom, Leela Cavott, her little boy. I can't even
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  Speaker 1: think about the twins. One of my children are both
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  Speaker 1: wandering and a parking lot with and I'm nowhere around.
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  Speaker 1: That's what happened, And because that happened with Kaden, that's
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  Speaker 1: how we know who mommy is. Because of the little
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  Speaker 1: baby's picture getting disseminated everywhere. Family sees it to incidentally
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  Speaker 1: and they go, that's the baby. That leads me to
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  Speaker 1: the fact that mommy is gone. Where is Leela? Take
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  Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at eleven Alive. Police say
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  Speaker 1: Lela Cavette's pickup truck disappeared to an old white Chevy
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  Speaker 1: thirty five hundred with a red tailgate and assigned baby
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  Speaker 1: on board. In the passenger window. Cavette tattooed Camden's name
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  Speaker 1: on the inside of her right arm and on her
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  Speaker 1: right wrist a tattoo of the Christian fish symbol. Parents
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  Speaker 1: who live in the neighborhood where Camden was found are
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  Speaker 1: shaken too for a little wood to be wandering out
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  Speaker 1: like that. Whoden was beaten seriously wrong way? And police
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  Speaker 1: are asking people here who know Leila Cavette, possibly people
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  Speaker 1: in the Dawson County area as well. They're hoping that
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  Speaker 1: they will call nine one if they have any information
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  Speaker 1: that might help police figure out what happened and where
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  Speaker 1: she is. That's a very very identifiable vehicle. I believe
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  Speaker 1: they said Afford f one fifty why with a different
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  Speaker 1: color top with particular signs on it. Guys, at this
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  Speaker 1: point is all we have to go with is her truck. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I can listen to CBS four Miami's Elliott of Rodriguez.
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  Speaker 1: His mother's truck turned up in Hollywood, but she was
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  Speaker 1: not in it, and her grandparents just arrived in South
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  Speaker 1: Florida to join in the search. We are here to
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  Speaker 1: find her and to get all great red Apostolor. Carol
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  Speaker 1: and Robert Ferdinand came from Nashville, Tennessee, to South Florida
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  Speaker 1: hoping to find their twenty one year old granddaughter, Leela Cavitt.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: She used the missing mother of two year old Camden,
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  Speaker 1: found wandering in Miramar Sunday. At this you've been snacked
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  Speaker 1: the bout this screek. We had never left her baby
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  Speaker 1: nevers my granddaughter. I know her. We had no Levet
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  Speaker 1: Camdon one North Greek. There's not our character. Hollywood police
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  Speaker 1: say Cabot was in this Chevy pickup truck found in
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  Speaker 1: a Walmart parking lot at four forty one in Hollywood Boulevard.
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  Speaker 1: It's the same area where police say the young mother
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  Speaker 1: was last seen. Lela's three sisters arrived from Alabama Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: after learning Leila, who lives in Georgia, was missing so
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  Speaker 1: far from home. That's the biggest question we have is
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: why she was in Florida. We don't know. That is
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  Speaker 1: the biggest mystery of this entire situation. You know, I'm
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: just thinking before I get into the vehicle, it's a
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  Speaker 1: white Chevy excuse a white Ford F one fifty pick
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  Speaker 1: up with red tailgate. I want to go to you,
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  Speaker 1: doctor Daniel Bober. I've recounted to you before how John
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Davy went missing in a baby zero superstore. They're huge,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: They're like an acre of baby stuff, and what went
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: through my mind when I could find him. I'm just
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: thinking about this family. You just heard that Caroline and
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  Speaker 1: Robert Ferdinand has driven down what the ten or twelve
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  Speaker 1: hours to Florida to look for Lila. Lila Cavette now missing.
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  Speaker 1: We wouldn't have known she was missing if the little
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  Speaker 1: baby hadn't been found. Guys, let me give you the
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  Speaker 1: tip line. It's nine five four nine six seven four
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  Speaker 1: four one one repeat nine five four nine six seven
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  Speaker 1: four four one one or nine five four four nine
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  Speaker 1: three tips t ips nine five four four nine three
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  Speaker 1: eight four seven seven. What goes through the family's mind
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: is sheer terror. And then you get after a couple
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  Speaker 1: of days, you get to share exhaustion, mentally and physically
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: pushed to the brink looking for your loved one. To
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: doctor Daniel Bober, have you ever dealt with that kind
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  Speaker 1: of pain in one of your clients and what they
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  Speaker 1: go through? I think the mental exhaustion would be worse
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  Speaker 1: than the physical exhaustion. Unfortunately, Nancy, Yes, they have, and
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: it starts out with absolute horror and shock, and at
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  Speaker 1: some point, when the child is missing long enough, you
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: start sort of bargaining in your head that you would
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  Speaker 1: rather know what happened to the child just than not
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  Speaker 1: knowing is the hardest part, whether they're dead or alive.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Just living with that uncertainty, in that pain and knowing
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  Speaker 1: that you know they're either dead or they're somewhere, Are
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: they safe? Are they being taken care of? It? It's
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: just horrific. You know. I said that Mirromour is only
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: about one hundred and twenty two thousand people more than
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: where I grew up in rural Middle Georgia, but it's
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: very close to Miami, with well over a million residence.
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  Speaker 1: So do you, Shelnutt, how does that make the search
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  Speaker 1: for the mom lela Cavette even more difficult? Well, I
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: mean it's it's a much larger area a much larger
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  Speaker 1: possible base of suspects. You know, they're certainly going to
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: be looking for people that she talked to, but they're
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: also going to be looking for people who are known
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  Speaker 1: predators in that area, of sexual offenders who may have
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: lived close by. There, so a lot of them in
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  Speaker 1: Miami too. Let me tell you that a ton and
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: so it definitely broadens the scope of your investigation. Guys,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I've been saying a Ford. It's a Chevy. It's not
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  Speaker 1: a Ford F one fifty. It's a Chevy three to
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  Speaker 1: five hundred, a late ninety Chevy three five hundred, redtailgate,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: baby on board sign in passenger window. Police say the
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  Speaker 1: vehicle was later found abandoned in Hollywood, Florida. So to
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: you leave I page, what can you tell me about
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  Speaker 1: the vehicle? Where their size of struggle was there? Blood?
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  Speaker 1: Was her pocketbook, her cell phone, her keys? What was
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  Speaker 1: in the vehicle? What do we know about that? So, Nancy,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: we don't know about what conditioned the vehicle was in,
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  Speaker 1: if there was any signs of foul play in this vehicle.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: The police are keeping that type flipt but it is
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  Speaker 1: a Chevy Silverado mid to late nineties model with a
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: baby on board sign on the passenger window, and the
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  Speaker 1: truck was found in a Walmart in Hollywood, Florida, about
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: ten miles away from where that little Canda. Don't know
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: why that reporter said this look shabby? Does that look
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  Speaker 1: shabby to you? I was like a nice pickup to me.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: So it's found there, and we don't know whether there's
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: any sign of struggle or anything like that. LEVI, We
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  Speaker 1: do not know. Guys. Take a listen to this. The
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: truck covet was in has been found too. It's a
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  Speaker 1: white Chevy truck with a baby on board side. Hollywood
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: detectives are now labeling this a missing person's investigation. Her
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: grandparents fear the worst, especially because they say she always
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: kept her son close. I think about her snatch up
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: all of the screaks, and she peared with them to
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: let the baby go. You know, guess why they found
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  Speaker 1: him wonder around because he would never leave that baby.
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  Speaker 1: That's how hard that's a life. The Hollywood Police Department
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: is now the lead agency on this investigation, and while
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: they haven't released any other details about Covette's disappearance, her
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: family plans to try to search for her themselves. I've
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: just been playing to God, you know. And if someone
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: out there that the couple's found her and know what
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: she is, we would great appreciate and help Crime Stories
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  Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. Where is Leila Cavette? That's the question
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  Speaker 1: asked right now by so many. Let me give you
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  Speaker 1: the tip line again nine five four nine success four
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  Speaker 1: four one one. We were talking about a beautiful baby boy, Camden,
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  Speaker 1: two years old. I'm looking at his picture right now
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  Speaker 1: and he's beautiful. I gotta show you the picture. This
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: is of him eating and eating an apple, and he
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: is gorgeous. Look at this little guy with the curly
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: kind of gold looking hair. Look at him. Can you
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: imagine this little guy wandering alone in a parking lot,
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  Speaker 1: barefoot and a dipe and a T shirt. When we
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  Speaker 1: pulled the thread and start to unravel, we find out
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  Speaker 1: mommy is missing. She would never have left her baby.
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  Speaker 1: Back to leave my page Crime online dot Com investigative
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: reporter tell me about the search for Leila Cavett. Well, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: we know that she is five foot four inches tall,
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and ten pounds. She has Camden and a
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  Speaker 1: Jesus fish that symbol on her wrist tattooed on her
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  Speaker 1: wrists and she was last seen in that white pickup truck,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that Chevy Silverado that was discovered abandoned at Walmart. And
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: we know that the SBI is assisting local authorities in
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: this search. When you say she was last seen in
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: that vehicle, when was she last seen, as it relates
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: to finding the baby, when was she last seen? How
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  Speaker 1: many days before the baby was found? July twenty six,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: It was the last it was the day that the
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: baby was found. She was seen driving in that vehicle
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: according to the Hollywood Police Department. How many days one? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: So that's fairly close in as far as a timeline
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: to you, James Shelnot, let's talk about the timeline. What
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: do you make of it? You know, I think I
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: think it's important because you know, you find the truck
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  Speaker 1: after you have found this baby, and you know the
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  Speaker 1: baby's wandering this complex, you're looking for mom, and then
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  Speaker 1: you found the truck. I would like to know exactly
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: when that truck was dropped off and when it was found.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I would like to know also the last time for
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: sure that it is verified by someone that she taught
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: with someone or saw someone you know, the police have
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: indicated that they may have some type of surveillance I
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: believe I read in one of the articles some type
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: of surveillance video. I'd like to know exactly when and
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: where that was in relation to where the truck was found.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I'm understanding that she was last seen in the Hollywood area.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: How far away is Hollywood, Florida from Miramar? Do we
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  Speaker 1: know that? LEVI page fifteen or twenty minutes, so not
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  Speaker 1: far at all miles. I live in Hollywood, Dancy, That's
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: where I live. Oh is that you, doctor Bober? Yeah?
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I live in Hollywood, Florida. Oh. Oh, tell me about
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: the area, doctor Bober, because that's important to me. Is
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: it highly populated about one hundred and forty thousand people.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of the major city wedged in there between
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  Speaker 1: Miami and Fort Lauderdale. Yeah, that could be anybody, right,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: That's like the traffic between New York and New Jersey,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: between Hollywood and Wait, between Fort Lauderdale and Miami. Hollywood
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  Speaker 1: is about twenty five minutes from Miami, and it's about
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes from Fort Lauderdale. And you know, it concerns
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: me even more as we're trying to identify where she
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: is and who took her. Obviously someone took her. Is
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that it's not like she goes missing on her jog
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  Speaker 1: outside of her home and rural wherever, because that limits
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: you largely to people in that area as the purp
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  Speaker 1: right population center. Yes, doctor Bober, because here this could
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: be people, truckers coming down to Miami from New York.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: It could be tourists. Crazy is right here, so's it
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: could be anyone on the inter state. And you know
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: what that reminds me of James Shellnutt. I don't know
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: if you remember the case of Dylan and Shasta Grownee
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and they were up in Cord Delane, Idaho. They were swimming,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: playing at an above ground pool in the backyard with
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: their family, and a guy goes by on the interstate
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: and sees the little girl inter swimsuit. He goes later,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: wipeside the whole family and takes Dylan and Shasta, kills
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: everybody else. And so you'd think in rural cur Delane, Idaho,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen, But it does happen when someone
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: just actually Nancy. It's probably about two not even two
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  Speaker 1: minutes away from where Adam Waltz was kidnapped. Oh my stars,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: wow from the Hollywood mall right there in a Sears
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  Speaker 1: robot exactly in them all. Okay, back to you, Leavi Page,
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  Speaker 1: what more can you tell me? We know that the
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: FBI is also involved, and that the family has hired
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: a law firm to represent them, and they are currently
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: trying to gain access to Leila's Facebook messages to see
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: if they can see who she was communicating with before
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: she went missing and why she exactly was in Florida.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: We know that her father has stated that he thinks
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: that she met someone on a dating app and that's
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: why she No. Does it never end, Randy Kesser with
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the dating apps ever? Will there ever be a day
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: that we didn't report? It's always a woman? I mean, really,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: it's unbelievably. That whole term, I mean, cattishing is so
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: ten years ago by mail. It's just unbelievable. People still
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: fall for things and trust people they've never met, and
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: there's no way event and that you know, people have
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: these desires and they just follow through and them without
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: it's a commense out the window. You know, here's another
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: family law issue for you, Andy Kessler, because this is
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: so critical at this juncture right now, I understand the
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: father Camden's father is trying desperately to get Camden. I
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: think he's under CPS Child Protective Services. I don't trust
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: them as far as I can throw them, right, so
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I don't want this baby with Child Protective Services. But
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: they're making the father prove he's the father. I guess
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: he and Leela had broken up. They probably I don't
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: know that they were ever legally married. So now he's
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: got to prove he's the father. So how can we
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: avoid something like that happening? Boy, it's more funding, you know. CPS.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I feel for them, and they you always get a
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: bad rap undertaining and overworks. They're getting subble when they
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: don't remove a child that gets hurt, and they if
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: they leave a child with you know, So they're they're
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: always in the spotlight because we always want them to
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: play god and to be able to save the world.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: And there's just not enough funding. We need more. Please
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: don't get me started on CPS. What I'm talking about
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: is the father of the bio dad of Camden is
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: now having to jump through hoops to prove he's the father.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I guess to a DNA analysis. So every minute counts
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: when you've got a child in a foster home. Every
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: minute that child, in my mind, is in danger. So
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: how do you avoid this delay? He's got to prove
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: scientifically he's Camden's father. Take the test. If you said
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I got to do something, of course he's going to
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: take the test. But how do you, Randy? You have
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: an excellent reputation as a lawyer. So let me repeat
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: my question for the third time. Wait, maybe fourth, I'm
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: losing count. How do you avoid the situation of them
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: not knowing who the father is? I don't know. You
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: take the test. DNA testing is so simple. Now, well, okay,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: you know what, I would have something like a formal
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: order or legal agreement with the mother that as to
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: when I could see the baby, stating that I'm the
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: bio dad, showing my child support payments, some type of
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: legal documentation that is my child, the birth certificate with
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: your name on it, something like that, Ding ding ding.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Because you're smart, I'll be in your office today to
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: take over the whole kit and caboole, I'm move it in.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I'm take it over. Okay, start sitting all those big
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: checks to me. The Dwins will love it, guys. One
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: last time. Leila Covette, missing her baby, is in Child
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Protective Services right now and some foster care. I don't
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: want that. I want to find Leila Covette phone number
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  Speaker 1: nine five four nine six seven four four one one.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Please help us. Nancy Grace Crimes Story, signing off, Goodbye
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  Speaker 1: friend