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Patriots Unfiltered 12/21: Previewing the Bengals, Wednesday Practice Report, Can the Offense Improve Over Final Three Weeks · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. I've never seen a guy take a knee
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  Speaker 1: and lose the ball. I've seen you guys fumble on draws. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I did see somebody take a knee this year and losing.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't take a knee, he fumbled a snap. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but snap the ball to take the knee. Do you
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  Speaker 1: have to snap the ball to pay anyway? I can't
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  Speaker 1: eliminate the snap from the equation. I can eliminate exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Don't even put them all in play. I don't even
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  Speaker 1: want you looking at the ball. Even you don't go
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  Speaker 1: on the bathroom. We were all drinking hot chocolate, and
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  Speaker 1: I was probably like twelve or thirteen, might have in
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  Speaker 1: that my uncle, who was hammered, handing me the schnop's
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  Speaker 1: hot chocolate. I was still too young at that point
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  Speaker 1: to even want to do that. I was a wee.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe someone lost the situation. I think you said it
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  Speaker 1: to me when we were walking out and the show.
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  Speaker 1: They were tied. I know, I know, and I said
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  Speaker 1: to you to think that they thought they would. I
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  Speaker 1: kind of heard some rumblings of this too, not a lot,
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  Speaker 1: because everybody's so pissed off. No one's really looking at
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  Speaker 1: the bright side. That's stiff arming Mac Jones and then
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  Speaker 1: just ramp rumbling into the end zone. It looked like
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  Speaker 1: a tight end. Yeah, yeah, Max, gotta make that tackle.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go down to Andrew. This is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled
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  Speaker 1: by Dunking. All right, Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday here at Gillette Stadium, and we're awaiting Bill Belichick's
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  Speaker 1: live press conference. So we're gonna go to that live
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  Speaker 1: when it happens. I hear he's got a major announcement.
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  Speaker 1: I'm only kids, we're hearing. I'm only kidding, but we
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  Speaker 1: do want to hear what he has to say. It's
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  Speaker 1: a pivotal week. I was signist yeah HC of the INDEPA.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're interested to see which direction this team
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  Speaker 1: goes after that brutal loss. Um, you know, do they
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  Speaker 1: go up from there or do they spiral? Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: either one could happen. So um, you know, we're interested
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  Speaker 1: to hear what he has to say. We'll go to
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  Speaker 1: that when when he starts schedule for noon. Buddy's a
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  Speaker 1: little late twelve or two now, but in the meantime,
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  Speaker 1: eight five five Pats five hundred is the ticket houtline.
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  Speaker 1: Web radio at pages dot com is the email address.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're still recovering. I think you know it's
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  Speaker 1: still the wound is fresh. We're still recovering, but we're
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  Speaker 1: trying to move on to the Bengals. Um. And here
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  Speaker 1: in New England, leading up to the game, we're supposed
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  Speaker 1: to have some type of wet storm, no snow, but
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  Speaker 1: high winds, pouring rain and then freezing over Friday night
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  Speaker 1: before the game on Saturday too. I think you're you're
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  Speaker 1: breaking up there, you yeah, yeah, I heard it. It's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be warm. Yeah, it's gonna be um rain for
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night into Friday and then really woom on Friday
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  Speaker 1: and then dropping like thirty degrees on Saturday. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 1: like they said, like Friday night, it'll feel like minus
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  Speaker 1: two around Foxborough. It'll feel like that. It won't that
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  Speaker 1: it'll be higher, but feel like that. And then for
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  Speaker 1: the game it should be upper twenties. Yeah, that's that's yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that sounds like what what I had heard. And it
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  Speaker 1: will be interesting to see how much freezing you you're right, Freddie,
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  Speaker 1: because if we get a lot of rain, yeah, on Friday,
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  Speaker 1: it's supposed to be like in the fifties. One I
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  Speaker 1: was listening to one b Z. He was saying that
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  Speaker 1: because of the high winds, the roads may not freeze
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  Speaker 1: over because the wind kind of keeps the water from accumulating,
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  Speaker 1: So the freezing over part may not be that bad.
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  Speaker 1: But that makes sense. It is gonna drop very fast
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  Speaker 1: over a seven hour period, from like forty five d
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  Speaker 1: till I had heard as high as like fifty six
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  Speaker 1: to like twenty six. Yeah, like that big of a gap.
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  Speaker 1: So that that's so game time in the twenties. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're expecting. Yeah. I don't think that the weather won't
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  Speaker 1: be terrible for the game itself, but I think Fred
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  Speaker 1: brings up like whatever we get on Thursday and Friday,
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  Speaker 1: what happens to that when it gets really cold, could
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  Speaker 1: impact some wild and crazy. I even think like the
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  Speaker 1: high winds are supposed to have gone away by Friday,
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  Speaker 1: like Thursday night into Friday. They're supposed to be like
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  Speaker 1: fifty sixty mile an hour winds. Yeah, like people are
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  Speaker 1: gonna lose electricity over this one. Oh man, yeah yeah now.
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  Speaker 1: Oh and there's Bill, let's go to him. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's been spent a lot of time here
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  Speaker 1: since the last couple of days. Is good, good football team, UM,
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  Speaker 1: good organization. I always had a lot of respect for,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Mike, you know his commitment to well Over
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  Speaker 1: Brown family, you know, come back to Paul Brown, Mike, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And then Zach's done a really good job there.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Obviously low on defense, you know Darren in
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  Speaker 1: the kicking game. UM, team's well coached. Um they have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of good players, very explosive offensively, great quarterback, three,
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  Speaker 1: three great receivers, tight end, two, really good running backs.
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  Speaker 1: Offensive lines certainly have been improved from where they were
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  Speaker 1: last year. And you know, defensively they can they're big,
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  Speaker 1: they can stop the run, they can rush. A really
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  Speaker 1: smart team, good situational football team. Field goal kickers or
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  Speaker 1: is twelve out of thirteen from over fifty yards or
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  Speaker 1: something like that. He doesn't miss many. Um, so explosive
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  Speaker 1: in the return game. Um, you can see whether and
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  Speaker 1: whether one of the top teams in the league and
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  Speaker 1: playing well here you know lately, you know, not maybe
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  Speaker 1: not quite as good at the beginning of the year,
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  Speaker 1: but they've certainly come on playing good football now. So Um,
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  Speaker 1: it's been a good opportunity for US Saturday even and uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, challenge here to you know, deal with these guys.
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  Speaker 1: They got a lot of a lot of weapons and
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  Speaker 1: say they're very they're very well coached, they're penalized. Um,
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  Speaker 1: played good clean game, so make air and everything and
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  Speaker 1: so you know, so we're gonna have to do Um.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah said, I mean there's a legend. Um. Yeah, great,
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  Speaker 1: great college player. UM. Maybe maybe a little overshadowed by uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know lydell Um, but that was pretty good backfield. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I was at Baltimore lydell Um. George Welsh was their
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  Speaker 1: position coach at n State. So we talked about those
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  Speaker 1: guys had a bit and um, you know, Mitchell got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the a lot of the stats and
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  Speaker 1: publicity and all that at Penn State. But George always
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  Speaker 1: you know, raved about Franco, didn't carry ball as much
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  Speaker 1: and and his hands, which I mean one player kind
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  Speaker 1: of says it all, you know on that one. So, um,
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't fun to play against. I can tell you
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  Speaker 1: that was that Baltimore we you know, played him in
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs there my first year. Um, yeah, guys, that's
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  Speaker 1: a great player, a great person. That's a big loss.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Bill. What's your message to the guys, you know,
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  Speaker 1: three games left, kind of control of your own destiny here?
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  Speaker 1: Um yeah, one day at a time, one game at
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  Speaker 1: a time. Name was always first time you've seen Joe
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  Speaker 1: Brow Yeah everything. Um, I mean he's socially's tough. He's
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  Speaker 1: a tough kid. Um, he's he'll stand in there and
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  Speaker 1: throw the ball, take a hit to make a play,
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  Speaker 1: Um accurate, that's all the throws off to tackle nag
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  Speaker 1: is the game well, sees the game well productive, productive
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  Speaker 1: in critical situations, their down red area, big games. Let's
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  Speaker 1: say he makes makes a lot of his best plays
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  Speaker 1: at the right time. Would you really need him? It's
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  Speaker 1: impressive kind of impact. Is Ted Carress meat on there? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Ted's not a good job already, haven't they been protecting
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  Speaker 1: for all those sort of story took a lot facts
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  Speaker 1: how their offensive production, Like I said, they definitely improved.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, so let's just talk a couple of games
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  Speaker 1: from last year. Um, yeah, I think they've improved it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, made some changes there, drafted Olson, brought ted
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  Speaker 1: in there Collins. So Bengals have had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: injuries all over, but mainly on defensive Loaves and Cheeto
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  Speaker 1: the main corner. A couple offensive, but it stuck out
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  Speaker 1: to you that they've have been able to sustain their
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  Speaker 1: defensive effort, their physicality and what we have done that. Yeah, yeah, again,
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  Speaker 1: lose done a good job. They've they've got good depth
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  Speaker 1: and um yeah again, I think they're very um you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're they're aware, they're they make good instinctive plays, um
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  Speaker 1: like Hilton's a very extinctive player of both safeties. Really
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  Speaker 1: Um so, I mean they make a lot of you know,
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  Speaker 1: good plays at the right time. Um, recognize things anticipating,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it looks like you're gonna have more
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  Speaker 1: than you have and then things clows up quickly. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Wilson's been really productive. He's got a lot of tackles.
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  Speaker 1: It's got some interceptions here the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: He gets his hand on the balls. Good past defenders.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean it's a team defense. It's just team defense.
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  Speaker 1: The two edge players that have been very disruptive. So
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  Speaker 1: got a lot out of Hoverard Henderson. Yeah, I'd say
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  Speaker 1: probably the ladder. I mean, it's isn't a team that
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  Speaker 1: does a lot of new things from week to week.
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  Speaker 1: It's you don't look at one game and say like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it looks a lot different than some other game. Um.
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  Speaker 1: They they're they're pretty steady really in their personal all Right,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna turn away from Bill. If he says anything,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Newsworthy will we'll talk about it. People will
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  Speaker 1: be monitoring it for us. But uh, just you know,
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  Speaker 1: going over the Bengals and all the question line of
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  Speaker 1: questions is about scouting the Bengals. So yeah, yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: was interesting you mentioned. I mean, the edge guys do
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  Speaker 1: stand out, but I mean, Hubbard doesn't sound like he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna play. Hendrickson is back at practice this week with
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  Speaker 1: a broken wrist, but he didn't play last week. So
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  Speaker 1: both those guys have injury issues, so that could be
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a needed boost for the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: offense with those two guys. Yet, now, um, in your database,
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  Speaker 1: which we want to categorize that as the homeless crew?
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  Speaker 1: Like what, well, if we name things homeless crew, Fred,
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  Speaker 1: it might get complicated because there's a lot of homeless
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  Speaker 1: crew looking in sweat shirts and jobbase. That is the
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  Speaker 1: twenty fourteen That was the twenty fourteen edition of the
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  Speaker 1: Belichick hoodie. Um, I was just looking. He uh, you
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  Speaker 1: need to find a way to harness this one. He
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  Speaker 1: hasn't I have. This is where I'm sitting here right now. Fred.
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  Speaker 1: He's looking at it and he says that that is
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  Speaker 1: the twenty fourteen Like, do you doubt him? Like? I
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  Speaker 1: had a friend. I had a friend who knew what
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  Speaker 1: episode of Star Trek it was from the captain's log
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  Speaker 1: in the beginning of the show. Oh yeah, this is
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  Speaker 1: the by the day I guess you know, start dates
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  Speaker 1: is easy? Um, I did do. I did do a
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  Speaker 1: quick look though that twenty fourteen one. He did wear it.
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  Speaker 1: The first game he wore that particular sweatshirt not cut though,
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  Speaker 1: was against the Bengals in twenty fourteen and beat him. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but otherwise has not won the cut version since the
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  Speaker 1: nineteen opener against the Steelers. Okay, there you go. What
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  Speaker 1: did he wear on the Onto Cincinnati game in fourteen?
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  Speaker 1: That's what I was just thinking of. When he said
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  Speaker 1: that he wore that, I was like, maybe that's why
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  Speaker 1: he broke I think you're right. Hold on. That was
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  Speaker 1: the first thing I thought of, Fred, There you go,
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  Speaker 1: great minds think alike. That was it. That was it.
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  Speaker 1: The first time he wore that sweatshirt was on there.
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  Speaker 1: So don't tell me that this is random. He just
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  Speaker 1: pulled something out of the closet. This is this is
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  Speaker 1: he puts thought into what he's wearing. I gotta, I gotta,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta follow that up. Fred, thanks to you for
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  Speaker 1: for connecting the dots on that. I didn't quite place
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  Speaker 1: it together, but well, as soon as you said twenty
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  Speaker 1: fourteen Cincinnati, that's the first, like, right, that's the first
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  Speaker 1: thing that popped into my head. Right there it is,
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  Speaker 1: there it is, and there it is. They're winning. You
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  Speaker 1: can't lose, clear eyes fullart, can't lose, can't lose. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: sorry to tweet that out, all right? Good? Yeah, thanks Fred,
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. You know what I mean? Collaboration. You
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  Speaker 1: guys are helping me connect the dots. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: But it is funny. It is funny when you connect
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  Speaker 1: things like this. Wait, what does it mean? I know?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, like he's consulting. It bears just like
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  Speaker 1: something we're gonna wear this speaking of speaking of conspiracy theories,
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  Speaker 1: and not to dwell on the last game, but your guy,
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  Speaker 1: Fitzy has a conspiracy theory. There's a I love conspiracy theories.
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  Speaker 1: I almost never agree with you. Yeah, there's a Twitter
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  Speaker 1: account I'm called NFL Officiating and it's an official Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, that's managed by the NFL officials and it
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  Speaker 1: overs and supposedly, according to FITZI, they follow all the
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  Speaker 1: NFL teams except for the Patriots. We're the only team
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't follow. They don't care for our social media posts.
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  Speaker 1: I thought this was going to be something like Stevenson
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  Speaker 1: and Myers had like a bet going on, like like
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  Speaker 1: I wanted it to be like a like legit conspiracy theory.
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  Speaker 1: This is a conspiracy theory, like some some poor social
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  Speaker 1: follows on social media? Well why they left with why
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: do they follow all the team? Thank you? Matt? Right?
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, like I'm not following the Patriots. We
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: don't like them, right, We're gonna we do calls against them.
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  Speaker 1: We don't want to hear what they have to say.
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  Speaker 1: And if you want to entertain this for a second, sure,
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  Speaker 1: which fan base do you think would give something called
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  Speaker 1: NFL officiating the most? Yeah, but that has nothing to
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  Speaker 1: do with following the official account of the Patriots. So
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: don't wipe everything away from the Patriots, because there's no
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  Speaker 1: question in my mind, the most they hear from his Patriots, well,
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  Speaker 1: we're the most screwed. Exactly. Let's face it, exactly, there's
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  Speaker 1: only one fan base that thinks like that, and you
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  Speaker 1: just articulated it are the most screwed, you know, always? No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little I was. I didn't know where you
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  Speaker 1: were going with that. But when you said Fitzy has
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  Speaker 1: a I was like, what didn't I hear? I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: especially fitz he's in a dark place. Yes, he's texting me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, who is this? Who is I did the
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  Speaker 1: podcast two weeks ago with with Andy and Fitzy. He
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  Speaker 1: is not in a good place. Yeah, because he's also
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: a bit so that that he can't be happy about
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: what's going on there. Either said if I don't have you,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: and you know, yeah, I don't know what. I don't
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: know what the Patriots can rely on. Yeah? Was he
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: the one like with the positivity over Andy? Now? Like
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: he's the one oh Indian and he's got a way
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: more positive than Fitzy was in that podcasts out of
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  Speaker 1: his moment. The other um the other video I shared
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  Speaker 1: on our little cool Content thing. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you saw that one, but there's some Patriots fan that
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: getting getting just absolutely yelled at by some drunk woman
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: in his face at the Raiders game. At the Raiders game.
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  Speaker 1: But credit to that guy for he just stoically sat
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  Speaker 1: there and stood there and didn't say a word. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was telling Mike, this is great. This is what
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  Speaker 1: I really am. Like, I really, I take a step back.
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  Speaker 1: I looked myself in the mirror and said, you really
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  Speaker 1: are a rotten person. You know what My first thought was,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: I saw this this morning. I was getting I had
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: to get Will up for basketball practice, so I was
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: just like scrolling through and I see this thing and
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, what a jerk that woman is.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, she's really I mean, this is really over
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  Speaker 1: the top, and I thought, you know what, I immediately thought, Fred,
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  Speaker 1: what's that? What must that guy have done in the
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter when it looked like the Patriots are going
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: to beat them to elicit that kind of a response, right,
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  Speaker 1: That was the first thing I thought of, Why, Like,
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  Speaker 1: why do I think like that? Like why would I
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  Speaker 1: think like like you know what I mean, like when
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  Speaker 1: it looked like the Pigs are gonna win twenty four
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  Speaker 1: or seventeen. Because you know that anybody that does what
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  Speaker 1: that woman did with the Raiders shirt, anyone who does that,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: that's a colossal a hole, right, right, So you know,
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  Speaker 1: she was probably given it to him the whole first half.
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  Speaker 1: She was probably yelling at him. Yeah, And then I'm
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: thinking that guy must have turned the tables in the
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: second half when the Patriots came back, and then when
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: it ended like that, she just emptied all the battles. Sure,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: but more often, you know, more likely is the guy
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  Speaker 1: who took it as the Patriots fan is probably just
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  Speaker 1: a good guy and didn't create a problem, which absolutely
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: could have been a problem, because I don't know how
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I would have handled that. As you all know, I'd
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: still be beating up that guy from Green Bay. If
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: my brother didn't pull me off of it'd be an
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: incident for sure. What are you supposed to do with
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: like a situation, You're supposed to go get an ashroom
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  Speaker 1: like this woman is harassing? No, I think the guy.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know how. I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: that guy did. I really don't. In all seriousness, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how those Patriots fans maintained their composure and
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: just sat there and let that go on. Because that
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: was bad in the face stuff. When she was like
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: in his face, like you know, like right up all
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: it probably saved her that it was a woman. Yeah,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: that was a guy head butt. Yeah yeah, all right now,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: yeah that was bad. That was bad. Terres Hollis back.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: We didn't talk about camera growing yesterday. Interesting that he
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: got signed off the Patriots practice squad so from Indianapolis. Yeah,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: so he's gonna have to be on their active roster
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: at least. But you know what's funny, And I don't
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: know how much you guys watched the Colts game, the
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Colts Vikings game, you know, the history comeback. I don't
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: know if you guys paid a bunch attention to it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Um I watched it all, Um, I did too, and
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: one of the best players on the field for the
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Colts was that guy. And I I'm I can't pronounce
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: his name. It's if Phoene, if Fanny Uhig, but don't
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I can't pronounce his name. So linebacker. I think he
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: was number fifty four. He made all kinds of plays
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: in the game. But he's also the guy that tackled
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson like three times at the end of overtime,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: which led to the delayed game penalty stopped the clock
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: and allowed to like they waived him. They released him
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: after the game. Oh wow, wow, you know, And I
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: just I don't know if that guy was any good
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: if he just had a good game. He was all
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: over the placemaking plays in that game, and then he
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: ultimately did the thing that cost him the game, caused
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: him a tie. Um, and they released him. And now
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: they bring in Camera Groan off the Patriots practice squad
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: to replace him, ostensibly linebacker for linebacker. Yeah, so teams
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: just cut guys when they make egregious mistakes sometimes. Wow,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: this is where I get Mike is in a bad like,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: he's in a dark place. I would like to see
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: some repercussions for things that sort of seemed to be
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: happening week after week after week. But yeah, I think
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I've you know a lot of people have the theory that,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: you know, Bill in his decision to put Matt Patricia
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: in charge of the offense, is broken Mac. I think
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Mac is broken Bill. Yeah, like hann like the the
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: stuff that's gone on with no like Kendrick Bourne. Could
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: you imagine like five years ago Kick Bourne doing what
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: he did like three weeks ago and not losing a
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: snap right well, for all we know, he has lost
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: snaps all throughout the season going back an he can,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: but not right off of that game. The next game
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: he caught five passes. It was probably his most active
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: game of the year. Yeah. Yeah, Or they're kind of desperate,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: and you know, I mean he didn't play a lot
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: last week either. I mean, it's just I don't know,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: it's we getting this conversation all the time, and he's
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: just it's hard to like really get in on Mac
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: and all that. When Malcolm Butler didn't play an entire
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl for something that wasn't play related. We don't
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: know why. We don't know why, but it wasn't play related,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: so it was not like not performance based yea and
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: played over the snaps all throughout the year. Welker didn't
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: play a quarter because of stuff he said about another
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: head coach. And now you can say our third down
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: package thinks they know our plays and nothing happens. Yeah.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I think they broke Mac. I mean I think they
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: broke Bill. Yeah. Who isn't broken right now? I'm broken.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I'm broken, but I've been broken for a long time.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: All right, five five past five hundred. Why don't we
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: go to our listeners see what's going on around Patriots Nation.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: We'll start with Mark and Connecticut. What's up Mark? Mark?
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Good job party? Oh there? I wanted to ask you guys,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: what is going on with Mac Jones? Just missing easy
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: wide open throw after wide open throw. Yeah, I don't know.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: We were kind of talking about it. I was wondering,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: you know, is it possible? And I'm just asking, is
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: it possible that since the ankle injury, his mechanics haven't
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: been right? You know, could be? But is it time
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: to go to Jared? Is it time to go to Bate?
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Jared said, Bailey's appy? Is it
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: time to Is it time to turn the page and
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: maybe get the kid? Yeah? To what end the season?
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: To what? Like, what are you going to prove? I
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: think you'd have to like give mac quote an injury
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: in order to do that. It's just done it. Yeah,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think you just you just make the switch.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: There would have to be some that after the after
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the game. What what a dumb team we are? Yeah,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: what a dumb team we are? Yeah, there we would know. Yeah,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: he's been on some dumb teams. Oh, I thought you
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: were going in a different Oh, well, we're tough to
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: watch now, we really are. We're tough about I agree, Mark,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: And that's sort of the worst part about it is,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: you know, you play kind of sloppy and undisciplined football.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: It's really not even overly entertaining. Um, you know, and
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: like the theater of the absurd of the last play
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: of the game doesn't overshadow the fact that that game
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: really wasn't all that entertaining, you know to that point. Yeah, right,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: But do you blame Patricia or do you blame Bill Belichick?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Is the time to bring him, Billy O'Brien. It's it's
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: everybody gets blamed. Everybody gets blamed Bill. You know, Bill
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: put this together. Yeah, yeah, I ultimately blame Bill because
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: he's the one that decided to do it this way.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: But I heard an interesting take on like that Patricia
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: and nobody in football, So this was I was talking
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: to somebody else who follows it very closely, but not
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: in football, not a Patriots employee, who mentioned that Patricia
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: should have said no. He should have said no, he
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: should have said I'm not qualified to do that. Well, listen,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I think you know, people like well, Bill should be
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: gone because of this. I disagree. But unless Bill doesn't
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: believe that he made a mistake, you know, like yep,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Like listen, I tried something. I tried something. He's a
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: smart guy. He knows football. The same with Judge. I
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: thought that they could do you know, this would work out.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: It didn't work out. We're gonna move on. Ye And
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: that to me, that's okay, all right. I agree with you.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: If he if he thinks that he didn't do anything wrong,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: then that's a different argument. Absolutely, that's that's yeah. Yeah,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Like he definitely got to bring in an actual offensive
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: coordinator next. Sure you gotta, yeah somebody, Yeah, absolutely, all right,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Thanks for an offensive coach. Yeah, John's in LA. What's up? John? Guys,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: you are like stavers. I mean, after the super Bowl
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: that shall not be named and a few other losses,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: it's been hard for me to even get like listen
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: to the show. And I sort of I didn't want
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: to listen to the show after the Bills game a
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and that was much less worse
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: than this. But I just want to say thank you
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: for sort of you know, this time of year, one
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: thinks about what you're grateful for, and I'm really grateful
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: that I tuned in yesterday and we did our therapy,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: as Fred likes to call it. That was infuriating, and
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: the whole season has been frustrating. I don't want to
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: fire Bill. I don't think they will. I hope they won't,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: but I do hope he takes some accountability like you
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: were just referring to, and like you guys talked about
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: in the show yesterday, which he hasn't and the coaching
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: staff happened and the players have. I think it's a
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: very bad look and hopefully it's just like he can't
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: take that level of it right now. He's got to
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: wait till the end of the season. But he needs
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: to acknowledge what anyone can see, ye, which is that
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: the things that I'm sure he was ready to show
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the media what he was going to do, and they
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: don't know anything. And Matt Patricia's smart guy, football guy.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: He needs to just suck it up and say that
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: didn't work. That's on me. It's all on me, and
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: we're going to try to do better, right, and he'll
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: he'll go a long way with me. Yeah, I agree,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: but mostly thank you, all right, well, thank you for listening.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Thanks John, Yeah, thanks John. But it does make me wonder.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you're ever going to get that
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: cathartic moment of Bill Belichick standing before the press and
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: saying this was a mistake, like you're gonna don't say it,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: but through his actions, right, well you know that. What
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: do you mean if if if he makes a change,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: do you know that that was through was his actions
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: that he just said, I you know that what I
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: did was wrong and I have to I had to
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: change it. Or would you think that he was kind
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: of forced into it. I don't think. I don't I
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: don't think he's going to be forced into anything like
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: like if he's being asked to do something he disagrees
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: with but he has no choice, he will leave. So
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I you know, that's my take. I'm not sure I agree. Yeah,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure because I don't. I don't think. I
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: don't think he wants to go anywhere else. I think
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: it's just he has everything set up here the way
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: he wants it. I don't think he wants to start over.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I don't either, But I don't think he also wants
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: to be told how to run the team. And he'd
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: and again this is just me guessing, but I think
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: he'd rather not coach than you know, be under the
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: thumb of an owner. Yeah, well, I mean he didn't
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: want to think it's he didn't want to stay at
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the Jets. He didn't want to stay at the Jets
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: because he wasn't sure of who the new owner would
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: be like. And he want to be under the thumb
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: of parcels. But you think that's the same as being
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: somewhere for twenty five years and you know, being asked
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: to make a change a coordinator, Well like not having
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: ideas newner is going to be in having parcels as shadow. No,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: but I think Robert has the right and probably will
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: say Bill, you're gonna make a change, right, But I
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: think it's Bill's going to agree with that. I think, See,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I think if a change is made,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: it's probably more likely it's like I don't want to
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: do it, but I gotta do it. Well, he might,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: but you know, Patricia's his friend too, but I think
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: he's gonna. I think he knows again, like how can
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: he not say what everybody else? And that's why it's
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: not flying anymore, like the you know, playing hard to
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: get Oh, well, we'll just work better, Like it's been
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: so bad this year that I think that's what you know,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: fans like especially, they want to hear it from Let's
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: just say even let's just say that Bill thinks the
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: mistake was not Patricia and Judge. The mistake was drafting
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones. Let's just say that in his mind, he
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: thinks that's a mistake. You can't tell me looking at
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: this team that it's just Mac, even if you believe
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: that it's it's not everything play, I mean that's you know,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: that's a symptom of it, of everything That last play,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what where that's where we're at. These
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: guys they don't you know, they're not all on the
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: same page, they're not all pulling in the same director.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: And and the thing is like, what what you don't
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: see on this team is a lack of effort, and
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: you don't see guys that don't care. I mean, you
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: guys were distraught after this game. The locker room was
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: like a funeral. Jacobe Myers isn't tears. They care. It's
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: not like OH nine, where you had a bunch of
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: guys that couldn't give a crap. These guys care. So
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: it's not about that. It's not about that, you know.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're gonna find out. We're gonna
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: find out. I think it's a great comparison to OH nine.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I think it's a dysfunctional locker room. I think there's
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: too many guys doing their own thing. Yeah, like it
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't manifest itself, and guys not necessarily caring or openly
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: not caring. Yeah, it's I'm doing my thing, but that
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I'm going to flip the ball over my shoulder. But
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: that's I'm trying to make a play to win the game.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: But it's not that they don't care that they win
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: a lose. No, it's I'm gonna do what I want to,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: try to do something to make a play. But but
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: then to me, that comes back to coaching. Yes, you know, yes, yeah,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: and I'll go back to oh nine. I just can't
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: get them to play the way they need to play.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: And I think he if he was doing a football
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: life on this year, you'd hear him saying that to
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Patricia or Judge. Wouldn't be saying it to Mac because
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I eminently they don't talk. I don't see any of
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Dahlias Thomas is on this team, and see I don't like,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you can I do I don't necessarily.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think Kendrick Bowen is a daylist Thomas,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Like he's doing it every single week. I mean it's
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: more often that Trent Brown is Sean Springs. Like. I
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: think it's the same. You might be right, right, I
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: think it's the same, only this team isn't as talented
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: as that team. Yeah, you might be right. I just
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I just get the sense that the guys they want
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: to win, they want to be cod where's Isaiah win Well,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: he's Yeah, that's a good one. I mean, like, but
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: he's not playing. No, I know that's the point, well,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: because he don't care, Like I just yeah, you might
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: be right, you might be right. I mean, I mean
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: unless he's got like a broken foot and we don't
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: know it. But like, I find it hard to don't
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: you find it interesting that we haven't had any, like
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Jim McBride medical updates on Isaiah Win just gone. Yeah,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: I mean he had foot injury. He was out that week,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: and he was out the next week, then he was
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: out the next week, and then they put him on.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, when it comes to the story of this team,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: everything's on the table, you know, like as as a
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: possible storyline. You know, you can't rule anything out good
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: or bad. You know, you just can't, because you know,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: we don't know. That's where that's where I land. I'm
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: not telling you why, No, definitively, I'm just saying I
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot of two thousand and nine
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: with this team. And I think it's also interesting the
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: worst A lot of people call this the worst regular
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: season lost in Patriots history. I think that it rivals
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: one of the losses that would rival at his fourth
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: and two well, and that was two thousand and nine. Like,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: but there's a lot of it, I would say in
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: correlations in terms of how we felt coming out of
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: this game. We got to go back to fourteen coming
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: out of that Kansas City game, you know, like we
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: had national TV analysts telling us, you know, they're not
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: that good anymore, blah blah blah, and like, remember how
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: we felt coming out of Like, hey, Brady got benched.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Brady got benched in that game. You're taken out of
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: the game. He didn't get he got taken out of
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: the game. But there's a different okay, but but he
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: wasn't playing well. Nobody. It was an awful, awful game,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: and we were like, oh my god, what is going
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: on with this team? And then they just turned it
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: around the next week and the rest is history. But
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: we felt I felt just as bad after that game
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: as this game. Oh I didn't. I did. I didn't,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Oh I did. I'm not telling you that I knew
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: they were gonna rattle off one hundred wins in a
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: row and win the Super Bowl. I'm not telling you that.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Not telling you I wasn't like taking a step back,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: but that team was one of the most talented teams
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: of the Dynasty. It turns out the team, but after
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: that game, you're like, despite their talent, you're like this,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I was shook. I was shook. There was sometimes they
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: weren't they weren't playing. Well, I'm not gonna lie and
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: tell you why I knew that. I didn't. I didn't
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: know that they were gonna rattle off and all. And
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: you're right, Paul, this team is not as talented as
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: that team. But I think this team is better than
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: what they're showing, oh for sure. And so again I
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: gotta go back to coaching. Why they're not getting out
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: of these guys what they I just I mean, every
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: single person you included had their record being eight and nine, eight,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: and that's where they're going to end up. And everybody's
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: telling me how much more talented they are than they're playing.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: They're not there, but they're not. But here's the thing.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: They could still be eight and nine, but the offense
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: would look like a real NFL offense. You know. The
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: offense just doesn't look like an NFL offense. It's just
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: not right. Yeah, I think the coaching is a big
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: part of it. But I also think that's why a
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: lot of people had them predicted to be eight and
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: nine to nine and eight, right, because I don't think
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of people had a lot of faith in
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: the setup. I just I think there's a difference though,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: between nine and eight and seven and ten, you know,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: and I think seven and ten is still on the
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: table for this team. And you know, you talk about
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Kansas City. That game happened early in the season, and
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: at the time, I wasn't losing my mind over that one.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I felt like, man, this it felt to me like
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: they just had one of those one offers. This is
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: the end of the season. This is how they're playing.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: At the end of the season. There's no time to to,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: you know, find yourself and turn it around. So I
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: just think all these things are gonna come to a head.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: We'll see what kind of they have coming out they
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: go seven and ten. In my opinion, the difference between
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: eight and nine and seven and ten would be they
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: lost to a team that you didn't expect to lose,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: to Chicago, and they didn't beat anybody that you didn't
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: expect them to beat, which they almost always do. They
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: always beat somebody that you have Baltimore and the Cam
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Newton year, like there's always a game like that that
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: you wow, I didn't. I didn't think they'd win that game.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was the Chargers last year, you know, when
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: they went to LA and they won that game. Right now,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: as of right now, if they if Mike is right,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: and they lose the last three and go seven and ten,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: they couldn't beat a good team. They didn't beat anybody
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: that you weren't expecting them to beat, and they lost
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to somebody that you didn't expect them to lose. That's
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: the different Tue eight and nine and seven and ten. Yeah, yeah,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: but you need a last second punt return against the Jets,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: and you also got all these favorable matchups like you
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: got last year of you know, like I mean, the
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: wins that they got against the teams they got team
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: won weren't against good offenses with a good quarter. So
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, it could have been worse. Splitting hairs, it
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: could have been worse, Mike, you're right. That's a good point,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: because they had a couple of games that you might
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: have thought would have been a little bit tougher that
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: weren't like the Colts game. Yeah, you're right, maybe the
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Packers too, You're right, But you know, either way, I
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: just think we'll see, like all this talk about where
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: they're at mentally, like, we'll see where they're at when
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: they get out there against a very a very good team.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: You know, are they gonna well, like like we said
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: last week with Josh, you know, how will the team,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: how will the Raiders come out? You know, has he
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: does he still have command of the locker room. Let's
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: see how the Patriots come out same based on the
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: way they played, I'd say no, yeah, well maybe yeah.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of the joke too with the pads,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: is that, you know, you talk about these things and
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: they've all they kind of looked the same every game
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: they come out. There's not really a big difference whether
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: they're gonna play a good game or a bad game.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Like they're just gonna kind of play like they play. Now. Yeah,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: back to the phones. Let's go to Tom and Connecticut.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: What's up, Tom, Tam? Hey are you guys doing good? Hey? So, um,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I saw an article the other day on Nesting about
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: potentially Julian Edelman coming back only if Doingland is a contender,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: and I was calling to see what you guys think
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: about that. I'm taking myself off the year. Yeah, I
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: think he's done. He just keeps playing the charade every time.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think the other I don't
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: think the Patriots are either, but oh less than one percent.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I don't like to say zero, but I'm not in
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: for I don't want to come back in these last
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: three games. I guess the last two games, since we're
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: already at Wednesday, is that? Is that what he's saying
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: or just I think he means next year? Next year?
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Like why would why would he come back? Now? No?
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I know that's that's why I was asking for clarification.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: They already made a football life about him. It's over, okay, Yeah,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I mean I like the Brady Gronk Edelman thing. To me,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I just don't understand, like, if you're really a fan
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: of the Patriots and not necessarily a fan of like
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: what an unbelievable story in the buzz put the pr aside.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: If you're really a fan of the Patriots, that's what
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: you think is the best thing to do. I mean,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: it's Brady Gronk Edelman will do that again going to happen.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: But if it did, two out of three of them
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: would not finish the season. Oh for sure, so it
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: wouldn't matter. Uh Williamson, Philam, what's up? William what's going on? Fred? Hey? Mike? Hey?
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: My god? For I mean seem like every always got
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: something to say about this team. Well, but I'm not surprised.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not surprised at all. But it's just getting it's
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: getting worse at every time. And um uh it's Tamara
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: end today. She is not okay. Uh can you send
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: a message to uh was Tamara? Please tell her? I
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: don't want to hear anything more about Jacobe Mikes. There
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: was nothing special about him. Time to get go. Yeah,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: he's he's the owned up to it and everything. I
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: take my head off to him and everything. But that
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: was so dumb. Oh my god. And you you go
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: back twenty yards and then you're gonna throw the ball. Well,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I think he got caught up in it, you know,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: like if you're gonna like like Remandre started it like
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: so like he probably looks up to remand he started it,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: you know, like, well he gave me the ball, I
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: gotta give somebody else, you know. Yeah, but when I
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Remando runs, he's running in the right direction. He throws
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: it back you know, even though he started the jumping
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: out yeah and then your corns back. I know, I
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: know it was. It was a complete brain fart, like Jacobe,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: you playing for a no, you trying to get a contract,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Danna sign like that. There's a terrible play by both
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: of them equally Jesus. Um. So my my question is this,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna take it off there. I' gonna leaveing
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: that this. I just need an answer from each and
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: one of you. Do you want change? If you want change?
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: And y'all already know, y'all stay, Bill ain't gonna change
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: and it's now, So what do you want to do?
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: You want to move on or not? No? I want change,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: but I want Bill to make the change. I need
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: more information. Yeah yeah, I mean, in a perfect world,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I just want him to put an offensive coordinator in.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I don't want any more change than that. I just
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: need an offensive coordinator. But I need to know more.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I need to know how much he wants to do
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: that ros because I don't want him doing it if
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: he doesn't want to do it, just to go along,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: to get along, yet separate. Definitely, we definitely need infusion
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: of talent. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, all right, John, thank you,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: all right, thanks William h. Let's go to Jeff and Texas.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: What's up, Jeff, Hi, guys, Hey, I just got a
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: couple of things here. Um, and you were just talking
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: about a minute ago. Um, Like Kraft, I mean, here's
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: the thing, um, I mean, you think craft these all this,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: you know, some of the local media and national media.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: What's you know what everybody's saying. I mean, he's got
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: to be you know, he's just gotta be unbelievably upset
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: about Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely, this is he's a fan.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: He started to see a lot of national guys sort
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: of posing the idea of trading Belichick, for example, Mike Florio,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, do you do you let it?
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Knowing that he's available, you know, and a lot of
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: people are sort of putting pieces together and starting to wonder,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: is this like the first part of the plan, like
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: to start the divorce. Yeah. Raft famously said I'm not
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: gonna trade Tom Brady. You know, that's just I'm not
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: gonna do that. I'm gonna let him, you know, uh,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: control his own fate. I think he believes the same
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: thing with Belichick. He would not do that and Belichick.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: He'd be like, Okay, you're trading me to Carolina. Yeah,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not going I'm quitting. I'm retiring. No, no, no, no,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: that's not how a trade of a coach work. Yeah,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: that's what I was about to ask. Trade work. A
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: trade of a coach is the coach has interest in
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: coaching somebody else, and you have interested in allowing that
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: to happen. Okay, so like you're not gonna, like, you're
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: not gonna banish him to the like the worst team
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: in the league, showed you Bill, all right, Okay, well
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: if that's somebody like I don't like Sean. I mean,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: John Gruden wanted to coach Tampa Bay. But where's he
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: gonna want to go? Where does he want to go?
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: You know, other than the Giants and they've got a
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: good coach. Now, you know, I don't have the answer
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: to the question. But like, it's not like we're gonna
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: trade Richard Seymour to the Raiders because we think that's
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: the worst place that he could go. And that's it.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: You have to trade it, obviously to a team that
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: needs a coach, you know, but that could be anybody. Well,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: it could be I don't think there's gonna be that
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: many openings, but like I don't know, Jets, Yeah, Fred, Fred,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: you were just staying a minute ago. You know, he
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be forced by Kraft. But I think,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: like Kraft can't just go sit down with Belichick and
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: have Belichick there. You know, I'm gonna do what's best
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: for the team. Don't worry, you know, maybe not, there's
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: gotta be I mean, Crafty got to maybe he's got
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: to really put his foot down, but not maybe you know,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: take him forth, But I mean he it can't be
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: what how it's been the last few years. It's got
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: to be craft has really got to have some input
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: to get some big changes. Yeah, yeah, I mean, if
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I'm Robert Kraft, I want to know, Bill, what are
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: you gonna do? What's your plan? What's your plan? And
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I want to know if what he wants to do too.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Like if I'm Robert Kraft, I can sit here and
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: I can say, like, don't you think we need to
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: do something about this offensive coordant? Well, I mean if
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: you really think, like I don't want him. I don't
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: want him coaching under those circumstances. I want somebody else. Yeah,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I think everybody's on the same page. If he disagrees.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: If he disagrees, yeah, I don't want him going along
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: to get along, Like to you a point, Fred, I
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: want him to say I tried something, it didn't work, right,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: I need to do something. I'm gonna move on, And
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: then i'd say, yeah, by all means, I think he's
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: better than the alternative. I just yeah, I just don't
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: think it's like a non non starter. Like I think
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: that there's some people that think, like it's ridiculous even
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: taught like that aspf W that we're getting that that's
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: just like, you know, killing us. We're even thinking about it,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: like they've been an average team since Tom left, right, Yeah,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: so at some point you have to think, well, can
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: I be an average team without Bill Belichick? Right? That's
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: the thing. Do I have to pay somebody whatever they're
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: paying Bill to be five hundred team? And what is
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: he doing to make me as good as? You know?
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Like if I don't have him, I mean I'm going
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: to be four and thirteen, Right, I don't think that's
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: the case. Well, I think that's the indictment now that
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: people are coming to is that it's a poorly coach team.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I still think Bill is as smart, if not smarter,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: than any coach out there. And you know, like you
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: make mistakes. This was a colossal one, you know, and
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: so you move on. I just think, like you know,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: people are in the past, there's been controversial decisions made
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: over the last twenty years that you know, you never
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: could quite pin down the reasoning of, well, why, you know,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking of like a lot of random ones. I mean,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: you know, letting Chandler Jones, go, Wes Welker, just guys,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: but maybe generally guys that have laughed. I'm sure you
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: know there are other examples I'm not thinking of, but
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: you know those ones that were like, okay, well we're
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: you know, we're in the AFC Championship last year, we're
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: probably going to be an AFC Championship. Okay, you know,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: you've got kind of the benefit of the doubt. And
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: now you get to this point where it's like, look,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like, you know, a player left and there
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: was some drop off at the position. There was a
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: complete overhaul of a side of the ball that you
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: oversaw that by all statistics, anybody who watches football says
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: that it was a failure, and I think people just
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: want him to be able to admit that, and I
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: think that would go a long way. Going back to
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: the earlier point though, I just wonder people are going
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: to get that satisfaction if they come out of it.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: And you know, to Paul's point that we don't really
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: know if his hand was forced. If well, yeah, we
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: hired Bill Brian, what was that what you wanted? Did
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: you want to run it back? I don't. I just
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: think everybody, and going back to the mailback, everybody's losing
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: their mind thinking that Bill's just going to be like,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I'm doing what I always do. I'm making the decision.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: We're gonna keep the same thing. This is what I
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: do and just shut up and sit back and and
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: you know, wait for it to work. But I don't
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: think people trust it. If that's the case, okay, and
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Robert Craft allows that to happen and they start out
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: oh and five, or then you could see a mid
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: season firing. I mean that's another question. Fred is like,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: you know, do you think that that they give themselves
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: an out? I mean, it's it's a really hard position
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: that Robert Craft is in right now with you know,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: an all time coach and to Bill's done so much
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: for this team, you know, like do you want to
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: be the guy who oversaw the departures of both Brady
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: and Belichick? Like, no, that's that's a that's a really
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: hard right spot. I think I think for the organization
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: it would and I don't know how this ever really
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: ends up happening, but just a you know, a nice
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: depart like how do how does he's on board with
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: the departure and how it's all going to work? And
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: everybody has some good feelings and the fans are you know,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: not saying things like oh, you know Bill hated craft,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: you know, starting up with all the drama of like
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: could it just be peaceful and amicable? And everybody says, oh,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: that was a nice ending. That's why a lot of people.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: But I think that's why a lot of people talk
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: about this trade possibility. I think that's why Mike Florio
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: raised that. I think he was the first national guy
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: to thanks to pose that. And I'm not telling you
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I want to I want him, I want but that's
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: not what That's not what we're talking about in this show.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Like to that emailer on ASKPFW that thinks that we're
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: killing Bill Belt. We're not. We're just wondering. The only
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: problem is the future, the near future going going to
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: look like and how might it be different? But you're
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: you know, your leverage is down though, if like you're
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: out there saying, Okay, we're willing to like when Bill,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: when Bill came here from the Jets, the Jets didn't
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: want to let him go, you know, they wanted to
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: keep him, and Tagliabu had to come in and mediate
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: the whole thing, and he said, Okay, you know this
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: is what you you know, Robert, this is what you
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: have to give the Jets if you want him. And
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the Jets had to agree to that. But like the
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Jets didn't want to, you know, get rid of them. Yeah. Right,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: This is why I'm saying, you're not trading Bill to
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: who you want him to go to. Bill is deciding
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: he wants to go and you're letting him. Yeah, that's like,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: so it ends up being the same. But I mean,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I also think I know you're gonna push back on this.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're getting nearly what you think you're
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: getting for seventy one year old coach. And what I mean, Yeah,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: if you have, you know, like the other team, whoever
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: it is, you know, knows you want to get rid
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: of him. Well, I don't care if that they don't
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: think you want to get rid of him. You're not
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: getting what you think you're getting for a seventy one
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: year old coach. Yeah. Well, and I mean he certainly
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: has the name brand. But I mean, how do you
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: not look at what the Patriots have done post Brady
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: and say, oh, he's gonna go in and get us
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: a new quarterback and it's gonna work here when it
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: didn't work in a place where he has everything already
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: in position like that, that'd be funny. He goes to
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: another team, he goes, oh, and by the way, Matt
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Patricia is gonna be our offensive. Well, I don't mean
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: that's I mean joking aside though, I mean, but that's
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: part of it too. Like when he goes, if he
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: were to go somewhere, he's bringing a party with him,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: and things are going to change in that building for
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: you know, in a lot of different ways. Prepared to
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: sign up. Let's let's let's say it's ten years ago,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: but we're going to use the current climate, and so
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: the teams are structured the way they are, Right, Carolina
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: got a job opening. Um so ten years ago, Carolina
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: might have said, yeah, we'll give you two first round picks,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: maybe a second Today, it doesn't make any sense for
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: either party. It doesn't make any sense for Bill to
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: go to Carolina without without any structure, at the age
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: of seventy one and say I'm gonna be around long
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: enough to fix this. And it doesn't make any sense
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: for Carolina to say, he's seventy one. By the time
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: he's ready, we're ready to contend. He's got to be
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: pretty much close to hanging up the whistle. Where did
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Bill start his coaching career Baltimore? The Colts. Yeah, who's
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: probably gonna need a coach next year? They won't probably
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: they have an opening. And who who would probably would
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: do something crazy as an owner? Right? Yeah, I think
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: he's crazy. I just say, like, maybe you'll get a
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: first round pick. Maybe. I don't know. I think earth say,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: might give you a little bit more than that. I don't,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I don't, and I don't. Glorio said, if you could
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: get a first round pick, I think that's what you're
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: looking at. I don't. But would Bill want to go
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: to Indianapolis. No, I don't know where. He wouldn't think
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: you'd want to go. I like, I think that. I
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: think New York makes it. Like if if if the
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Jets were to say, like, you know, we were whatever
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: we were, you know, and we have this, we have
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: a playoff caliber defense, we have a lot of weapons
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: on offense. We just have to figure out the situation
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: at quarterback. But I mean, it's already a team on
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: the cusp of the playoffs. They're probably not gonna make it,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: but they're on the cusp, right, so they don't like
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Robert Sala there, I wouldn't Why did you watch the
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: end of the game the other day, right, what did
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: he do talk about a guy over his skis? Oh
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: my god? One forty nine left and all three time outs.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: They had a call time out with two seconds left
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: to kick a fifty eight yard field goal, and they
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: still had another time out that they never used. That's
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: gross negligence, as my as I like to say, coaching negligence. Okay,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think he's gonna start over though.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: That's just I don't think he is either. I'm just
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: throwing crap out there. Yeah, like, I don't think he's
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: gonna want to start over. But to me, the Jets
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: aren't starting over. Yeah, there's a lot in play. Carolina
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: would be starting over. Could we could we tack to
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: the your observation about yesterday about practice yesterday? Oh you uh?
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: I like that? You go something that struck me in
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: a little bit more to the off air show they do.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I say things off here. I mean I think, yeah,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: I don't. I'm just kidding. It was something I thought of. Um,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: So do you remember a couple weeks ago after that
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Buffalo game, Freddie, the Thursday night game that we lost
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: here Um, Andrew Callahan of The Herald was on one
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: of the talk shows at night at NBC Sports Boston,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: all the shows they used to have me on all
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: the time, and he said that he had heard from
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of players that they were very disappointed to
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: learn the day after the Buffalo game that they weren't
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: practicing and they didn't think they practiced enough. They got
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: like that weekend off. He thought that the players were,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: you know, confused, they wanted they expected to practice on
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: the Friday or come in and whatever. And I kind
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: of didn't think that much of that because they played
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving Thursday. The next Thursday, you know, it's kind
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: of seems like common practice to get some time off
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: after that Thursday game. You have, in this case, eleven
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: days before your next game on the Monday night game.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't think that much of that. Were you a
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: little surprised they didn't practice yesterday because I was. I was, Yeah,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: I mean it should have been winning. Yesterday was Wednesday,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: and you are parlance. Yeah, yeah, players were off. The
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: players were off. I thought that was I thought that
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: was interesting. Yeah, it's usually three days of practice. Three
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: days are I just been a walkthrough? They have two
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: days of practice in a walkthrough according to the schedule. Yeah,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I was a little bit surprised because then, you know,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: it's a Saturday game, so you pick up a day,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: you know next week, you know, so like, yeah, you're
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: gonna be tired, but you're gonna pick up a day
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: and maybe you get you give him Sunday and Monday
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: off and Tuesday. You know, you could really give him
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: three days off after this and then report back on
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Wednesday for the Sunday game. So yeah, I was a
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: little surprised. So that was just something I thought of
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: you know, is it? Does it have something to do
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: with him? You know it is? You know, he's like,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: it's not like out of school, does he's seventy. He
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: once said that he didn't see himself doing that, right.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: He feels differently about it now, obviously, which is he
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: never said it. And I get that, like a lot
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: of us have done that. You think things, you say things,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: and when you get older or wiser or whatever, you
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: think differently. I'm not killing him for saying it, but
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: the reason he probably said it is because he couldn't
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: see himself being energized enough to do it. And I
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: wonder if he's not just wondering again. Yeah, I mean,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: he seems in good shape, and it seems remarkably consistent. Yeah,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, I hope I'm in I hope I look
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: like you know, believe it or not. I hope I
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: look like him when I'm seventy. Yeah, you know, you'll
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: look better than that when you're seventy. But I when
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: I watch him, I do think he's remarkably consistent. Like
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: I still see a lot of the same things. Hear,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: the same things, observe at practice, the same stuff. Like
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: he looks Yeah, he looks very similar to me. And
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: that's the other that's the thing, Like you say, oh,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: you know, another team wouldn't give you what you think
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: they're gonna give you. I think he looks and you
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: know it has nothing to do with the I don't
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: know why you're fixating on the condition he is, Mike said,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: I mean mentally, and when Brady left it has not
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: been the same. No, it hasn't. So that's why you're
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: not gonna get what your plus. I just don't think
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: there's a huge market for a seventy one year old coach,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: which he'll be next year. Why are you going to
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: give up huge assets for your future for a guy
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: who's not going to be there for your future. Yeah, right,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's intriguing, it really is. It's it's going
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: to be a fascinating off season. Evans back from practice,
• 54:17
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  Speaker 1: I walked in, No Jalen Mills he remains absent with
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: that groin injury, and no DeVante Parker, who remains absent
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: with that concussion. Now, Mills, I would mention I believe
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: suffered some sort of a setback because he was limited
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: in practice on Wednesday and Thursday last week, then a
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: DMP on Friday then ruled out for the game, and
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: that's just a vibe I got was that he was
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: tracking towards coming back and then practice in Arizona and
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: clearly hit some sort of a setback. So that's not
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: great news for the Patriots. Is there any chance just
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: because you didn't see him that he might end up
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: being out there? There's a chance, But on the estimated
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: injury report yesterday, he would have been a DNP if
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: they had had practiced on Tuesday and then and then
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: today he's not out there, So okay, I don't know. Well,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: we'll wait and see. They always do some some things
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: every once in a while with the injury report and
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: practice and whatnot. But we'll see, I will I'm not
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: trying to make this too big of a deal, but
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Jake Bailey being back, I actually think is a factor,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: especially for a team that just needs every yard it
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: can get on a football field right now, kickoffs have
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: been a huge problem, and every single time they've kicked
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: off over the last month that Bailey has been out,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: I'm holding my breath right Oh God, like this is good.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: And they did give up one against Minnesota where he
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: returned it for a touchdown and they end up losing
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: that game by a touchdown, and that's a huge play
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: in the game. So I think Bailey being back, his
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: touchback rate is over sixty percent. The guys that they
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: have now can't even reach the end zone, I think
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: is a really a big thing I do. And I
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: also wonder how big of a thing it is for
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Nick Folk to have his holder back as well. Not
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: that Folk has been terrible or anything, but that consistency
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: too coming back as well, I think as a factor
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: here too, especially like I said, for a team, every point,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: every hidden yard, all of that stuff matters right now
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: for the Patriots. So there's no one that played last
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: game that's out correct, That's that's some good news. No
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: new injuries. So Damon Harris was out there, Jack Joe
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Owns was out there, and everybody else that participated in
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: the game on Sunday. Those two obviously didn't but everybody
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: else was out there. Okay, all right? Um outdoors lower
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: practice field? Lower? Yeah? Lower? Is the mood different when
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: they moved to the lower field at all? With the players?
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: I like the lower field personally. The players I think
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: could care less. But it's much easier to see at
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: the lower field than it is at the training camp
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: fields when you're taking attendance and stuff like that. It's
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: much easier to get a scope of the land on
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: the lower fields because the players are literally right in
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: front of you, right. I posted a picture on Twitter
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: where you can see the defensive linemen and linebackers are
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: probably ten feet from me as they're stretching. So it's
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: much easier. So the mood of the media would have
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: been up, Yeah, I like lower field. That's that's my
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: that's my preference. Not for training camp though, because we
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: have the hill. Right in the hill is key because
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: you get the higher vantage point where I have been
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: at some practices for camp on the lower field and
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: you can't see anything. It's like in Vegas, as Mike remembers,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Vegas, Yes, brutal. I didn't see anything.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: Three fields, like all you got with the one in
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: front of the other. Pads today, I believe, so, yes, yeah, pads.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: They've been doing uppers and then like knee braces on
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: the lowers, and so I think that that's their version,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: the NFL's version, I would say, of padded practices in
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: week sixteen, okay, yeah, all right, all right, anything else
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: that you want to let us know. No, I did
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: speak to Bill or if not personally, but we did
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: hear from Bill. Yeah, we bugged out. We started we
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: went to Bill Live and he was going over the
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati scouting, so we we bugged out anything after the
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: first ten minutes. Yeah, I think that what was interesting
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: is and I brought this up yesterday and I'm going
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: to keep bringing it up because it's it's bugging me.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie is that every single time now
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: anybody has a real question, not just oh Bill, what
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: do you think of DJ Reader? Or Oh Bill, you
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: know what, what's your opinion on you know, Franco Harris
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: is passing rip by the way. But I'm just saying,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: you know anything, that's it though, because I don't know
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: that's a different day, not on the day, the time,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: off air, on air stuff. You you So, anytime anybody
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: asked him any sort of real question, it's it's the
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: same thing, right, It's the classic Bill deflection or you know,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: non answer or whatever. And it's like I'm not asking
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: him to to change his stripes, right, Like I know
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: it's Bill Belichick. We know we're not going to get
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: much out of him, but when you come off a
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: loss like that and you come on and your season
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: is going down the tubes like it is, like, I
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: just wish that there was a little bit more accountability,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: That's all. So did guys eventually ask about last game today?
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Some people ask, you know, Mike Reas asked, what's the
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: what's the vibe like of the players and how you
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: guys kind of as a team overcoming what happened at
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: the end of last game and trying to put that
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: behind you, And he just said, basically, we're onto Cincinnati again. Well,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: that's what my question would have been. Is there any
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: analogy to be drawn from like how you guys felt
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: after that fourteen loss in Kansas City and how you
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: moved on to this week? You know, I think it's
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: more akin to the Miami miracle, probably just because of
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: the way that the game ended. Yeah, but I think
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: his point was just that we're we're not even we're
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: turning the page, we're not even thinking about that. But
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: it's human nature to think about it, like we're all
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: still thinking about it, Like I'm sure all everybody in
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: that locker room is still thinking about it in some respect,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Like it's that's just human nature. Want to tell Evan
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: about our revelation. Yeah, well yeah, that's the back We're
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: onto Cincinnati hoodie that Bill was wearing it the interesting So,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: I mean he's certainly he's pulling out all the stops.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: You said, a team that needs everything they can get,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: he's he's dipping into the hoodie database to get really,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: but you're a good teammate. That was that was well
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: done right there. I like it so here like the
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: whole like the devastation of the loss thing, Like if
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: they were let's say that the same thing happened to them,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: but you know, it dropped them from it dropped until
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: eleven and three, Like, it's not even a factor. It's
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: a factor because of the desperation that it well, the
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: opportunity that was there in front of them. You know,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: it puts them now in a situation where they basically,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: not theoretically, but basically have to win all three games,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: and all three games that they're gonna be underdogs in
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: most likely, and on top of that, the bizarre nature
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: of the loss, Like it's it's not just the bizarre
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: nature of the loss, it's the situation. But Paul, in
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: that scenario eleven and three. They would have been playing well,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: they would have been winning games. It would have won
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: some of those games, right, you know. And this season though,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: it's it's different because on sad Saturday, I'm not gonna
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: say it's because of the devastating loss. I'm gonna say
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: that's the way they played Sunday. It's the way they
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: played the previous Monday. It was the way they played
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: the previous Thursday. We've kind of got a pattern going
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: here offense. However, if they pull out a win, you
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: will say, Okay, they rallied, they rallied. After that, I'm
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: sure you will. Well, what what else can you say? Well,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: I want to watch the game, and I'll tell you
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: what I said. Okay, Like I know, like against Minnesota,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, there was office today thinking Cincinnati
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: completely gave you the game. No, no, no, I'm not
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: gonna say that either. I didn't see it. But I
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: think they just play well and they win and they
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: beat Cincinnati, then that'd be good. Then. You know, coming
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: off that loss, you say, okay, they're still listening to
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: their coach. They rallied, right, But would you say that
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: if it was like what the Raiders did on Sunday. No,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: I Cincinnati plays like the Raiders did on Sunday and
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: the Patriots find a way to win the game. Right, Yeah,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: it's great that they were alive. That's the bottom line.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: I don't care about style points, but but Raiders have
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: been doing that all season, like Evan and exactly, Evan
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: and I talked about Minnesota. Yeah, we saw something different
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: that day. Unfortunately haven't seen it since. But like that
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: was a bad past defense that they made look like
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: a bad past defense, right. I think the difference is
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: between letting go of the rope and that that is
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: it to me? Right, It's like, how what's their compete
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: level on Saturday? If they look like the same team
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: that they've looked like all year and lose to the
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Bengals because of all the reasons that they've lost all
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: these games this year, that I'm gonna say, well, it's
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: just it's but that the people on my shows, as
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: Fred likes to say, we'll say that, well they just quit,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: they gave up, and I'll say, no, no, this is
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: who they've played all yet if they get blown out
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: by the Bengals and they gave up, right, That's why
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: I like to say I'd like to see the game
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: before I tell you what it means after the game. Yeah,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: that's why. I just think there's something new too, and
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: like modern social media, that this has permeated every bit
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: of culture and news right now and it's embarrassed sing
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: And I just I wonder what twenty something athletes, like
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: these guys who are very image conscious, what effect that
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: has had on some of these guys, as you know,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: not just it's one thing when the Patriots lose and
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, the Patriots aren't the same, but this
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: is something different where it just feels like an embarrassing loss.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: And that's why I just I wonder if this is
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: a little bit different this time in terms of what
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: impact it could possibly have if that makes sense with
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: the way things are they going to tocktail or are
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: they gonna I mean, in the past, of this happened
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: in the nineties, there'd be some newspaper articles about how
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: the game ended. You'd have an NFL film's footage that
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: you would eventually get unearthed. But you know, now it's
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: like Twitter, TikTok, Instagram. Everything is about how ridiculous the
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: Patriots looked and what a bad play that was about Patricia.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: That's all I see you on every like on my
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: shows again, Like it's that whole drama, like that soap
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: opera of will Bill be forced or will will will
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: Bill want to make a change, you know, And then
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: what we talk up before you got here ev some
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: of the national stuff with like Florio sort of suggesting
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: that because you know, maybe this is like kind of
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: the groundwork for moving on and do they you know,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: maybe try to get trade them. Yeah, because to be fair, like,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: let's just say that that is what I'm hearing. Let's
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: just say that crazy play at the end didn't happen
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: and the Patriots won the game in overtime. Let's just
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: say that you'd still be saying this offense doesn't look right.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: You'd have to right, oh yeah, oh yeah. I mean
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: you're probably be talking more about it, because yeah, it
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: wasn't overshadowed by that last year. And I net, like
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: I say, I never like eliminated. I've seen too many
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: things with Belichick teams for twenty I tried really hard
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: to say there is a zero percent chance of ex happening.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: I do not expect them to tuck tail. I expect
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: what Evan kind of described kind of a continuation of
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: the listless football that they've played for fourteen weeks. Yeah,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: that to me will not necessarily be an like an
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: indication that they've quit. I think that's what they are,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like and I do, and
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: I know it like I It won't be felger Mans
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: because they're not in, but I know that will be
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: the storyline on talk radio? Was there Adam? Well, you know,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: they lost the game, and clearly they just started to
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: pack it in and like, you know, and maybe that
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: will be true. I will not necessarily take it that way,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: and I don't expect them to. I expect the effort
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: to be the same as it's been every other week.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to the phones. They're stacked
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: up here. We'll go to Morgan in Vermont. What's up Morgan? Morgan?
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Moregan Chuck had good sci fi movie. By the way,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: if you're yeah with Mike, didn't. Eduardo's in California? What's
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: up in Eduardo? Eduardo? I'm not blaming it on Hardy anymore.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: This is a Fred issue. I mean, Todd's in Canada.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: What's up Todd? Yeah? Are you back? Are you back
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: in the homeland. I'm I'm gonna say this time. Are
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: you there permanently? Are you visiting? Just visiting? So I
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: pretty impressed by the price of everything here, even though
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: it's in Canadian dollars, it's pretty darn cheap. So okay, Canada,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: It's nice to see it. Now. My big thing here
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: is this, this season started out going sideway when we
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: saw that the offense, which we thought going into even
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: the preseason, was going to be something that was countable,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: and the defense was kind of supposed to be in
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: the progress, and it seems to have progressed. It's just
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: it seems like this something is just wrong. Like if
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: if the coach has actually called that play for the
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: last play, they didn't back even in there. They should
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: be doing the wildcat or something like, why have them
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: on the fielding the liability? And yeah, sure enough it
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: turned out. It just something feels wrong with this whole year,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: the way that they've developed the team, the way they
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: set stuff up, the coaching. Yeah, I don't know, I
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: can't put my finger exactly what I feel about it.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: It's just something's off. Oh yeah, do you guys get
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: the same feeling like they're not there. The compete's not there.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: I disagree with the compete's not there, but I do
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: agree that something's off. You're not what compete not there anymore,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: especially with Mac. I think Max's broken. Well, I think
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: he's trying to compete. I mean, I think Mac broke
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: the coach. Yeah uh yeah, but but something is definitely off. Again,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: I say, we're not watching a typical NFL offense. Like
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: they just can't do the things that a normal offense
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: can do, you know, at any level. You know, they
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: can run the ball pretty well, but they they're passing
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: offense is not an NFL passing offense. No, it's not
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: on film even resembling an NFL I mean, you're sometimes
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: I watch this offense on tape and I'm like, what
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: is the route combination? Like, because there's guys on top
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: of each other and then there's you know, guys that
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: are some guys are running like a quick game concept
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: and other guys are running verticals, And I'm like, what
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: either is this the design of the play or are
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: the players just not running the design properly? Or what
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: going on? But this doesn't even look like and you're
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: wondering why you know, and like I go back to
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: when Parcels was here, and you know, back then, like
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: I'd get information after the fact and so many times
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: like you think you knew what was a reason why,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: and then you'd find out what actually and you'd be like, oh,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: I never thought of that, you know. So this season
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: it's the same thing. But the only problem is we're
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: probably never going to find out, you know. But it
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: could be anything. It could be like Mac is like
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: calling things out at the line wrong and confusing that
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: it could be things like that happening. Yeah. Well but
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: if Mac is doing that, well why don't we go
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: back to Zappy? It makes no sense to keep him
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: in there. If he's so broken that he's not even
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: reading the field and being able to do an analysis
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: of the defense and call the right audibles, then why
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: is he there? Like he needs to be fixed, and
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: he might not be putting on the field might not
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: be fixing him. It might be making it worse. Yeah,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: I don't actually think that that's what it isn't. I know.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: I come off as a Mac defender a lot, but
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: I think that maybe I think the main thing that
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: I see with Max frustrations it's like, let's go to
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: the red zone sequence, right, it's third down and there's
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: some sort of confusion on the sideline about the play
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  Speaker 1: or somebody's not line up properly and they call time
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  Speaker 1: out and it wipes out a touchdown. And my read
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: of max reaction was like, now what, Like, now, what's
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: the problem? Now? Like we ran a play, it worked,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: I threw a touchdown to Jacobe, and I have to
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: turn over and go back to the sideline to you
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: guys because somebody was off on their alignment by one yard,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: Like what? And look, I think from a big picture standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: these things should not be happening in week fifteen. That's
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: totally fair, And these are things that should be ironed
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  Speaker 1: out in training camp, let alone in week fifteen of
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: the season. But sometimes you just have to let the
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: players play, Like sometimes you need to back off and
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: just let the players play. And I think where Mac
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: gets frustrated in Arizona when he was waving off because
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: they're in the two minutes. Drin Patrici is trying to
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: call plays into her is here and he's like, we
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: have this scripted already, Like this is like I know
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: what we're supposed to be doing back off. I called
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: for a win here and I really actually thought we
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: were going to get it. You almost got it, all right,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: great shows, Thank you God, Thanks Todd, Harry Chris. Happy holidays.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: Oh my good Back in Canada. I got a lot
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: of emails at web radio at Patriot dot. You haven't
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: ready to read because I have a quick question. Fac
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: ahead back to the practice report. Um, you know, so
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  Speaker 1: Harris is back out there? Yes, how did you think
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: he looked? Like? Did you? I mean yeah, I mean
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: I know you won't. There's sixty five players out there. Yeah,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: maybe you didn't. You know you're thirty seven? Check, Like,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: so you didn't really notice? No, not much. I just
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious because, like we talked about the
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: whole letting go of the rope thing, and I think
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: Evans Jalen Mills thing is right on. I think that
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: you hypothetical makes perfect sense to me, Like was limited
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: limited then all of a sudden back to DNP and
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: and listed as out on Friday. Um, so my guess
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: is he didn't get a setback. I am you know
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: he got a thigh injury and this is did he
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: missed three? Now? Damon Harris three injury three games? Would
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: this be the third? Would be? Okay? So pending free
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: agent don't want to play at less than one hundred percent. Yeah,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: it's same thing. Yeah, Isaiah Win, I think has left
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: the reservation. But that that's the kinds of the guy.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: You know. These are the guys that I talk about
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: with you all the time. Now. In fairness, we usually
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: have a chuckle about it because we're talking about like
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: the Colts or somebody else who's you know, out of
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: playoff contention and watch them scurry to the life rafts
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: and you know they're on IR. They're banged up because
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: they don't want to go into the off season banged up,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: worst needing surgery or whatever. I don't know what Damian
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: Harris's situation is, but I do know he's a penning
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: free agent and it makes me wonder. Yeah, and he
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: makes me wonder. It was four games now, so so
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: now it's like an IR issue of why didn't we
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: just shut him down? But I mean, only Win missed
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: three games then they put him on IR. So I
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: from what I understand about David David Harris is injured
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: during the Minnesota game on Thanksgiving and it's a contusion, right,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: it's a thigh bruise essentially, So that's a totally I
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: could see how that could be a week to week
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: injury and just how does it respond and when he
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: gets out there and he practices, how does it respond
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: to practice and things like that. I can see why
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people always jumped, oh well,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: why didn't we just put him on IR right away?
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: And it's because sometimes it's not like it's a boken
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: bron or torn acl where it's like he's done right.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm not blaming the team, no, And I'm
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: not blaming the team at all. I think the team
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: probably expected him to be back. I mean, I would
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: just say to a guy who's going to be a
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: free agent, but it's injury issues throughout, And there's part
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: of me that says, he's somebody that just needs to
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: get back out there and prove that he has some
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: degree of resilience, because if you're going to sign this
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: guy in the offseason, you certainly can't plan on bringing
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: him in. And you know we're gonna lean heavily on
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: Damian harrisy. He's gonna have to have approve it year.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: Probably Jack and Anaba writes in Although I'm very disappointed
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: with the performance of the Patriots this season, and I
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: hold Belichick accountable for fixing the problems with this team,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: I have not, for one instant wanted Belichick gone. It's ridiculous.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: That's what I agree with everything about that email, except
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: for the last two words ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's not
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: ridiculous if you think about it, It's not ridiculous. The
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: rest of the email on board with. I think that
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: he's responsible for what's going on on offense, and I
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: don't want to make a change. I don't think there's
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: anything wrong with that. But I also don't think if
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: Evan you think differently and they think and you think
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: Sean Payton would be better, and you think you want
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: to go in that direct, I don't think that's ridiculous.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: If you don't, I mean, at what point would you
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: think it isn't ridiculous? Like what more? What more he
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: needs to I really think there is And I'm not
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: picking on this particular emailer or the SPFW guy that
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: you and I keep referencing that finger wagged us um.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything that could happen because he
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: won six titles. Yeah, and you know Doula, you know,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: one a million games and one of Super Bowls and
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: then didn't win anything with Dan Marino. And how many
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: years did they they go on with that, And I'm
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: not telling you don Shula stinks, right. Is obviously one
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: of the greatest coaches of all time. I would concur
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: with your overrated nature. I liked the snark. He's coming around,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: Mike Evan is coming around. They thought he was he
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl one time with Dan Marines.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: I thought he was overrated period, like his whole career time,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: the entirety of his career, I thought he was great.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: He lost the I mean, never mind. Maybe that's something
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: about the greatest coaches of all time. They lose in
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: a situation where no one thought possible they could lose
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: his win their Lifetime Achievement Award. So it happens when
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: you coach for thirty years. Andrews in LA after hearing
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: Bill's interview post game, I recall what Bill said before
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: the season. I think it went something like, if it
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: goes wrong, you can blame it on me, or something
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: to that effect. Gotta be honest, that postgame interview sounded
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: a whole lot like the only thing wrong was the
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: players making mistakes and not executing. Sorry, Bill, I'm here
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: to demand you take ownership of the Foxborough High School
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: football team you coached and put together ps. I feel
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: terrible for Jacoby. Hopefully he shakes it off and has
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: a great career after that one hiccup. I agree with.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've been saying this for two days now.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: I wholeheartedly agree with the first part of that email.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: That mistakes were made on the play. Is putting it
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: all on the players. Matt can't reach the end zone
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: right and Fred after you left, Evan was killing. There
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: was very little accountability. Hail Mary is too far from
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: fifty five yards. Give me a break. Yesterday, Do we
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: talk to the defensive play caller for the final drive
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: of the game that the Raiders went march right down
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: the field and you called vanilla defense for the entire drive? Nope?
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: Did we call talk to the offensive play caller? Nope?
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: Angry journalist here, Um, It's just that people want us
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: to hold these guys accountable, right like they get it
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: all the time on Twitter. Why aren't you asking to
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: ask questions? Because I work here. If I could ask
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: Steve Belichick, why you know, why did you call standard
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: four man rush cover two three times in a row
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: on the final drive against the Raiders and watch them
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: march down the field, I would ask, But he's not available,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: so I can't ask him. Somebody writing in thanks Paul
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: zach Uh. We didn't really mention this, and I don't
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: know if it's a big deal, but he said. Following
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: the lost Trent Brown liked an image on Instagram that
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: was in regards to the pages needing to call Tom
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: Brady or Jimmy g Correct. Do you think this is
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: indicative of how the locker room feels about mat performance
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: or rather a one off situation, Like I don't even.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think Trent Brown has big fingers, yeah,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: like he likes I mean, that's not an acc I
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if that's indicative of a problem. Yeah,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that, but I don't do
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: the social media. I hate sometimes like something on social
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: to keep it as a placeholder so that like you
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: can come back to it, or gets things like that
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: on your feet. You're crazy, kids, Do you do know?
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: All I know is is like yesterday I happen to
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: like look at the people I was following briefly, and
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: I was like, why did I follow this again? You know,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: like this stuff happens, like if you're just scrolling through
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: and your finger hits it and he's got gigantic hands
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: and fingers. So like, I'm not telling you I've never
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: liked something by accident, because I have. Sometimes you just
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: like you scroll and like yeah, then you can unlike no,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: they you liked it. But sometimes you's like scrolling through
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: your feet on your phone and you know your your
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: thumb hits the like button by accident. I didn't like that.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's a I'm sorry, I don't think
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: that's an accident. That's like when I'm at was it
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: an accident when he said I want to go home?
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: How many accidents can happen? Now, that was not an
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: accident because that was a long week, man, But that
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was necessarily accident. I'm just not
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: going to accurate. Yeah, I'm just not gonna take the
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: fact that he did that as being a huge symptom
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: of a problem in the lock right, correct, Like, I
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: don't know that that's that's that's I just imagining, like
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: I'm mad at Paul, so I go to social media
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: and find someone like saying bad stuff about Paul and
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: just liking everything it liked it like, oh, no, he
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: probably did that by accident. No what, No, I don't
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: know Paul would I don't know, just just a tweet
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: I saw pat an Agawam. One common denominator with this
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: team going back from twenty nineteen till now is they've
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: played like absolute crap down the stretch, especially against good opponents.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: The twenty twenty season finale against the Jets. Notwithstanding, what
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: can we chalk it up to? Is it conditioning, talent, coaching, scheme, apathy,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: or a little bit of all the above. But I
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I think it's one of the
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: great questions because I think that's one of the tenets
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: of Patriot fans, that that you came to believe over
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: the dynasty of that they're gonna play their best football
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: at the end, that all the work that they put
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: in it's all going to come together and after Thanksgiving,
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: this is going to be the team. And they haven't
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: been that, yeah, you know, for I mean, they haven't
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: played their best ball. I mean I know, and I
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: mean Paul has a good point that you know they
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: start to play good teams the last couple of years
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: down the stretch, off the healthy guys problem. You know,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: when the division's gotten a lot better. So who you're
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: usually playing at the end of the season. Correct the
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: division you haven't been able to play instead of the
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: cupcakes to end the twenty eighteen season, which was I
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: believe Buffalo and the Jets. Yes, right, correct, Buffalo and
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: a cupcake the last two years when you're playings anymore,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: and now this this particularly, the Jets aren't a cupcake.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: The Jets are probably your two best wins. Yeah, Tyler
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: and Nadik now living in Providence has a game. I'll
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: provide a specific stat category and two players, and you
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: guess who has the higher or lower stat for twenty
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: twenty two. All staff provided by NFL dot com. Ready
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  Speaker 1: thank you for some more passing touchdowns, Mac Jones or
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: Brock Purty Purty Purty No, Mac, Mac has seven. Brock
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  Speaker 1: figured I figured if you were asking higher completion percentage
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: Bailey Zappy or Gino Smith. I hate completion percentage. Horrible
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: stat Gino Smith, Gino has seventy one point four. Zappy
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: has seventy point six league right, Gino Smith? Yeah? Fun fact,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: these quarterbacks have the two highest completion percentages in twenty
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: twenty two of any player with more than ten attempts.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: Irrelevant stat More rushes of twenty plus yards Romandra Stevenson
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: or Dalvin Cook of twenty plus yep, Oh, I bet
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: you that's pretty close, but I'll go Stevenson. Yeah, anyone else.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: Romandra has seven, Dalvin Cook has five. I figured that'd
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: be close, right. More sacks Josh Uche or Chris Jones.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: Josh it should be Oha lends a pass rushing in.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: Jones has eleven, has ten and a hey, get there,
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  Speaker 1: so he only got credited for half on someday I
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: thought he had a half sacks also done? Well, why
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: why this aw? You either sacked him or you didn't. Well,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: what if you both there? You're not both there at
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: the same time? All right? And I would also say
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: that both of them should just get a sack, But
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: then you have too many sacks. Half sacks? Stuff many sacks?
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: Should there be a category for cause sacks? Well, hurt,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: I could tell you, like the tackle totals is you
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: know I used to always rant to you about tackling
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: the sheets. Yeah, I usually bad sign right London Fletcher,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: Right man. No, I mean there were guys that are like,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: and I'm not saying they're not really good players, like
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: you know, Zach Thomas. She just threw out there. But like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't care that a guy had two hundred tackles
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: because I know how they they tabulate them. It's like
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: to whatever just said, Like a guy will execute his job,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: he'll get in the gap and the cause the running
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: backs back. He gets credit for a tackle, the guy
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: who tackles him gets credit for a tackle. If he
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: goes out of bounce, the guy who's closest to him
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: gets credit. Like tackles are handed out like candy. And
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think you could do that with sacks because
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: there's only so many times the quarterback actually goes down,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: so you can only get credited for one, right, Otherwise,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: you know, teams would end up with like a hundred
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: sacks at the end of the year. But I just
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: think they're these like little minute stat things like That's
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: why I like completion percentage, hate it, hate it. I
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: agree field goals made Nick Folk or justin Tucker Folk,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: I would think flat focus thirty Tucker has twenty nine. Yeah. See,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: because the Ravens have had big time red zone troubles too,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: except that they get to the red zone. Although my
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: football experience only extends as far as playing left bench
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: for my high school team, I feel like this one's
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: for you. Then. I feel like the shockingly low number
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: of passing touchdowns by Mac this season is enough of
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: a reason for Craft to require that Bill makes a
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: change to this offseason, either at quarterback or row set.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: I cannot imagine a scenario with Mac and Matt both
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: come back next season in these roles and we witnessed
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: dracs drastic improvement on the field. It's gonna be one
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: of those standoffs at this meeting. It's like, so, Bill,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: how'd you how do you think the season win? All? Right? No?
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: Think coming along? So any moves you're thinking about her? No?
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know, not really. I could just see you,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: So Bill, you know what do you think? And it's
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: just like white noise, you know, help me, mister Kraft,
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: You're my only hole. What do you think? H help me,
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: mister Kraft. Joe and Warwick, New York Um I was
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: pretty upset, of course, on Sunday, But the thing that
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: made me most angry was that Matt Patricia didn't stand up,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: do the right thing and take the blame for the
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: play call in the last play. It wasn't play call.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: They didn't call that. He put the players in a
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: bad position. There was very little chance of this play
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: being yes, oh okay, well maybe I'm sorry. I know
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: the draw. Yeah, he's saying the draw. He should have
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: just called for a neel down. He should have been
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: a stand up guy protected his players. Instead, he let
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: the players take the brunt of the blame. Belichick. Belichick
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: should tell Patricia Frado, I know it was you. Yeah,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: the draw was like to me, Bill's idea. But I
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: think when you have a play that's unconventional, unconventional at
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: a time, that's the head coach. Like when you go,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: like if they had gone for it on fourth down
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: there and you know, ultimately they failed and then the
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: Raiders kicked a field goal, you think that was Matt
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: Patricia said, no, no, Bill, We're just gonna go for
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: a fourth down here. It's the same like, yeah, every
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: team in the league runs a hail Mary on that play.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: Or would they take a knee? No, one runs a
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: draw yea from that point. Now, if you're on your
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: own twenty, I've seen it, you know what I mean,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: I've seen on your own twenty they might just run
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: a draw or whatever. But but they're not running a
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: draw from midfield. The only factor you're not considering is
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: that maybe we have a guy call in plays that
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: has no idea what he's doing and it's just downs
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: off at the wall. I know what, I wouldn't have
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: been able to defend the draw. No, I just to me,
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: I think again, we don't know. I put that more
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: on Bill. The fact that they didn't just take a
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: knee or run of Haile merity was on Bill. I
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: just I don't know how you couldn't put everything on Bill.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, and we said it in the offseason going
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: in of you know, holding our nose and hoping that
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: this was somehow going to work. But I mean just saying,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: how is Matt Patricia in a position to succeed? I mean, you,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinators and offensive line coaches get killed even when
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: they're good. You know, like even you come out of
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: a game and people like, oh that play call, though
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: Daniel from people like there was just no way that
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: Matt Patricia, I mean, he had to walk the narrow
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: STI lines in. I mean, he hasn't been good, but
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: I just don't know how you you you focus all
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: your iro on him instead of the guy that set
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: this whole situation up. And I mean I think Fred
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: said like that that Matt should have said no. I
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: mean that's probably the only thing you can really that
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: you can really argue that, like he should have said,
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not qualified for this. It's not going to help
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: my career to come in here and be the punching
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: bag for the entire offense, whether the line plays bad
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: or the play calling is bad. You know, it's all
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: on him this year. And to be clear, someone told me, yeah,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: uh Burton, Burton Island right soon. I guess it's possible
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: we could win out, but let's face it, the season
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: likely ended in the closing minutes of Sunday's debacle. I'm
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: glad Evan brought up the Jacoby interview yesterday. Here's a
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: guy who made the most bone headed play imaginable, and
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: all the reporters were trying a dozen different ways to
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: get him to deflect blame and he wouldn't bite in
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: the slightest. Myers is a stand up guy and always
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: gives it his all. And I really hope we resigned him,
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: no matter what. Jaded Old Perillo says, I hope they
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: resigned him. Jed, what did you say? No, that part
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: is accurate, Jaded Old Perillo, that part is accurate. But
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: I want to resign Jacoby Myers, it adds. I don't
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: think they will that whole resigning too. I don't think
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: they will, but I would absolutely wouldn't mind. It's going
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: to be a great story third or fourth receiver. I
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: just don't want him to be the the number one
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: receiver that he's been the last two seasons? Is that
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: ask him too much? Sulman pretty much the same. You know,
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: Myers taking the blame for it all, but he says,
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: I blame Belichick for hiring Patrician Judge. I'm feeling it's
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: time to turn the page on Belichick. He's an all
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: time great, but the game has passed him by. I
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: want to point out to remind folks. After the Miami miracle,
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: Belichick said they needed to coach that better this time,
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: though mistakes were made. Sounds like he's pointing at the players.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: He's going to lose the locker room. If he hasn't already,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: it may have. I mean, I do think that Bill
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: has evolved over his time here, and you know, took
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: taking strides to you know, manage the generational shift that's
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: happened under him. But I mean, I just I can't
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: help but wonder if the message from that generation of
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: a head coach is still connecting and inspiring that the
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: younger people in the generation now that are playing. And
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: you know when I mean, he got in the league
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: twenty years ago, this system and his style of coaching
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: and all that had been molded seventies, eighties, nineties, I
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: mean we're in a new time now. I mean, I'd
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: love to say that that he could coach forever, but
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think we all know when you got
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: some old guy that you don't really get what he's
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: talking about. We're not the same generation, we don't speak
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: the same language anymore. I just I wonder if that's,
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: you know, part of the bigger issue of the teams
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: just not coming together at the end of the season
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: anymore like they kind of used to. Let's go back
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: to the phones eight five five Pats five hundred. We'll
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: go to Justin in Virginia. Hey, Justine, what's going on? Guys? Hey,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: I want to kind of piggy back up. Well, Mike
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: just said, um, I think when you when the staff
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: around a head coach like that is all like, are
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: all young? Um, Josh McDaniel types. Well, I mean just
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: McDaniel wasn't young, but like you know what I mean,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: like young coaches that are on the rise in vogue,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: coaches that can kind of work. But the situation we
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: have is, you know the situation we have. We've talking
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: about it all year. You know what I'm saying. How
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: do you think our offensive mess compares of the Falcons
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: One they had a couple of years when they had
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: the offensive coach that they had to move up into
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: the press box. I think his name is Steve Sarkasian,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: and they had a Matt Ryan and all of them.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: How do you how do you think what we have
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: compared to that? I mean, Steve Sarcasian is a great coach.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: So they didn't happen. Well, that's the same guy that
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: they needed to move up into the press box and
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: it didn't work for like the first ten games. What
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: do you mean moved up to the press box. A
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: lot of coaches called players from the press box. No,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: but you don't remember half that year it wasn't work.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was don't remember them. I mean,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it wasn't a good year. But like,
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: if Steve Sarcasian he's coaching at Texas, the head coach
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: of Texas right now, if he wants to come coach
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: the Patriots offensive, like please come, like with open arms.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: I don't remember what happened in Atlanta. I'm just saying
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: year schematically, it seemed like it wasn't working. So Steve
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: Skarkasian was the offensive coordinator for Mac Jones at Alabama
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: and his last year at Bama. So so, but forget
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: about the names. I think the point that Carl is
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: trying to make is that things didn't go well that year.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: Is there any correlation? Is that what you're saying? Well, yeah,
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean the correlation to me is
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: the old Eagles. But yeah, how do you just think
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: those seasons kind of went like like I don't have
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: any I like, I mean, I don't mean to be disrespectful.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: I don't really have any knowledge. I just know that
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: to talk about what happened in Atlanta ten years ago.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: We broke them in sixteen, but this was long before that. Yeah,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: so they were already broken early Matt Ryan early Matt Ryan. Yeah,
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: it sounds no, no, no, no, this was after that.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: So Kyle Shanahan was the offensive coordinator in the Super
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: Bowl for the Falcons. Steve Sarkasian came in after Kyle. Okay, yeah,
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't remember what happened, So I don't.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: I don't either. He was only there for like a
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: year or two. Their offense is not good that year.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: But I think the the difference is when you look
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: at bad offenses like around the league that other than
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, they still have offensive coaches coaching offense, right,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: And that's why it's they might not have good players
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: to execute the schemes that they're running, but their schemes
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: are at least making sense in the spacing and the
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: details and all like all that type of stuff is
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: at least resembling an NFL football team. They might just
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: not have good players, you know that. That's that's the
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: biggest thing when you look at some of the teams
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: that are at the bottom of the league in offense
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: right now, that that's the difference, right is between the
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: Patriots and them, is that the Patriots are a disjointed
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: mess on offense and these other teams I think just
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: don't have the players to be a better offense. Thanks Justin.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: Let's go to U Eldred in North Carolina. Hey, Aldred, big, Hey, Hey,
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: I heard part of the part of the thing this afternoon.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: If somebody says something about somebody off if they offer
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: Bill off of mister craft broke round for bial, you
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: can he get one no pro football talk with someone said,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: you know, would you be interested in trading Bill to
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: a place where he wanted to a place that he
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: wanted to go and coach. It's obviously a far fetched hypothetical,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: but hypothetical. I would just wonder it. I was wondering
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: me called. I was thinking, why would they? Why would
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: why would the other team? Why would the other team
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: go up a first round pick? Yeah, yeah, I think
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: that's a fair question to ask. This is my argument
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: against Daddy is why would you you know, are you
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: looking at well first twenty some years the last sick
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: no talent, so if you got to how your talent
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: most times, alder eld Eldred, you're telling me that if
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers like, the Carolina Panthers wouldn't want Bill
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: Belichick to be their head coach. If I was in
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: charge of the Carolina Panthers, I wouldn't get up a
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: first round pick for him. I'm not talking about the
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: time I was in charge of the Chargers. I would
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: get up a first round I'm not talking about the trade.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: I just forget take the parameters of the trade for
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: how much of an absolute we think here is a
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: dumpster the Patriots of seven and seven. All right, what's
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: been going on in Carolina over six and eight, over
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: the last couple of years is what if I deal
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: what Bill is for the first five years, you're gonna
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: be our head coach, and then you're going might be
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: five and nine. You know what, what if like the
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: deal is for the first five years Bill, you're gonna
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: be our head coach, don't and then you're gonna be
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: interested in him being in my coach or five years
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not, and then you're gonna be the ga F. Yeah,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be in the GM at all right,
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: No think I just I would do it, Like if
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: I if it was like the Chargers and I felt
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: like I have enough talent to be better than I
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: am right now, I just need a coach, then I
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: would do it. But I don't know about like the Panthers.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't know if I trust him
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: to be the guy that's going to pick the next quarterback.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily saying I think you're bringing up all
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: fair points. I'm more looking at it of like if
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: you're a Carolina and you want to make a splash
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: head coach higher and that like that owner and that
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: owner would apply you mentioned Temper would do it. Temper,
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: you know the Colts. I would like Houston with Nick
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: going to work with Nick Kissario again and Houston. Like
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: I'm just talking possibilities teams. That just so the Patriots.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: He was only here for four years. Do you think
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: he helped the Patriots? Yeah, I don't, but he would
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: he left because he wanted to leave, Okay, because he
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: couldn't only here for four years, but I would you
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: want Parls now for the next four years? Now, what
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: is he eighty? But that's like you're at the end,
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: Like when he was done in Dallas, would you wanted
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: to showing any signs of I don't think you're watching then,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: Like they haven't been very well coached for a couple
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: of years. I think he would help any team. Parcels
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: is also a known program builder, right, Like this is
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: a guy that that came into many different teams and
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: from and got them on a on a decent path. Right.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: My whole thing with with other teams wanting Bill is
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: more about it just being Bill, right. I mean, you're
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: you're you're making probably the higher of them. That was
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: the biggest thing people said about Parcels. He gave them
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: instant credibility, right, A more of a team gave them
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: instant credibility. Right. But like I wouldn't have wanted, um,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have wanted Parcels to come to my team
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: when he was done with Dallas. Yeah, but like when
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: Parcels came to the Patriots in ninety three. Absolutely, And
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: actually one more question. Sure, I know if I'd been
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: beating us around the bush all the time, but I
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: know we got three games left, but I don't think
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: we got a chance in Hald winning them. So my
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: question is next year. Just in Kate, what if Craft
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: and Bill do have that top and he'd run their
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: things back the way it is. How do you think
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: the rock locker room in the playoffs? Wag? I don't
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: think it can happen. Can't do it? Yeah you can't. Yeah,
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: but it wouldn't be good. I think then you would
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: be at an impass. I think then you'd be had
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: to come to Jesus moment. Yepkay, alright, alright, aldred Um
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: skip rights. In the overall frustration has been building. Not
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: to rehash Bill versus Tom, but those of us who
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: were okay siding with Bill was because the Patriots would
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: play smart football and have a game plan advantage almost
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: every week. That has not been the case over the
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: last three years, with this weekend being the latest example.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: While I would not fire Bill, I am at the
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: point that if some team offered Kraft a sweetheart deal
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: for him, I do think it should be considered and
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: Bill wouldn't have to want to go there. Did what did?
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: What did the Patriots give up for Bill? Initially, we'll
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: getting to the Jets. I was the first round pick,
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: just one, No, it was a first round, a fourth
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: round and then the Jets gave back a fifth round, right,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: I believe, And I think they had to give the
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: Jets like a million dollars or something like that might
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: have been something like that, But like that's my point. Like, so,
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: I mean you're saying now you it would be more
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: because he's won six titles. I'm saying it will be
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: less because he's seventy one years old. Yeah, when he's
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: going to be the next you know, I think I
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: just think that also the marketing, you know, like not
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: that he's going to go out and give speeches for you,
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: but the idea that, wow, our team who stinks you know,
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: probably just signed Bill Belichick, that your fans are, you're excited,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: and that means that's that means money to a team.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: You know, that's season ticket sales, right, I mean remember
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: you know when when you know, Parcelsforce came, there was
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: a bumping season ticket sales. When Kraft bought the team,
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: they sold out, you know, so it means it means
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: money too, not just wins. Well, that's part of my
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: question is is how much does that Bill Belichick name
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: brand mean to the Crafts right now? You know, and
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: how much does that mean to the Patriots. Yeah something
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: for I don't know. Yeah, what's the ticket situation around
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: the league? Not every team has sold out the season tickets.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: Are a lot of teams that their people wake up
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: every day thinking how do we sell more tickets. We've
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: been very lucky to not be in that position, you know,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: because it changes your life as a marketing person that
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: that's your main goal sell tickets. They just come to
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: you now, Yeah, well we don't have to do anything.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: You just renew him. What's the waiting list like right
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: now for a patient seasonsty? I mean I have to
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: admit I got season tickets because they signed because they
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: hired Bill Parsons. That's that's when I became a season
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: ticket hold. I should probably get off the winning list
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: now does I work here? Obviously for the quality of
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: the Shaddy from Houston, we all know that the offensive
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: coaching is historically bad and changes need to be made
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: in the off season. However, I wanted to ask what
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: the defense of Mac Jones is now that he's faced
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: two poor defenses in back to back weeks and did
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. When Zappy torched Cleveland, all we heard was
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: that it was the thirtieth defense in Dvoa, et cetera.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: I'm aware that Zappy is not the answer and that
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: he isn't a vast improved unmac, But if the staff
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: wants to make the playoffs, would it be worth throwing
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: in Zappy for the last three games? I mean absolutely,
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: as Evan will tell you. Yes, Evan, please detail that
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  Speaker 1: I got done. Can I just say one thing in
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: terms of the Zappy thing and listen, the numbers are
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: what they are, Okay, that's the one outlier of the season.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: They scored five touchdowns that day, Like, clearly something happened.
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  Speaker 1: It was the one time that Matt Patricia maybe he
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: bumped his head that day and it weren't like I'll
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: tell you what happened. Every other game, including all of
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: the other ones with Zappy, the offense didn't look like
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: it did against Cleveland. Against Cleveland they actually called this
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: thing called play action, and they called it often, and
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: then every other head every other game of the season
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: they've called I think last week they called two play
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: action passes. But like against Green Bay, when Zappy played
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: the vast majority of the game, they couldn't really move
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: the ball, they couldn't score. They scored on the action
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: against Against Detroit, they got a bunch of field goals
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: that were set up by fourth down stops by the defense,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: and they I think they scored one touchdown against Chicago. Yeah,
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: he came in and gave him an immediate lift and
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: then did not action, then did nothing the entirety of
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: the second half. Cleveland is the outlier. They had a
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: really good offensive game in Cleveland. It was it because
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: of Zappy. I don't know, maybe it was Maybe if
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: Zappy plays the last three games, the offense will look better. Sorry,
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: but I just don't think this. I don't think the
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: magic thing is the quarterback. I think there's so many
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: more issues offensive. So he's just the quarterback. He's part
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: of it, but not the only. What I'm gonna say
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: about the Zappy thing. Okay, so the best to me,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: the best case scenario for the Patriots next season is
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: that they get a real offensive coordinator that gets Mack
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: back on track. Correct Like that's that's the most ideal thing.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: So with that in mind, if you bench Mac for
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: the last week, for you lost him, it's over, like
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: he's his everything's gone, like his confidence is gone. Heck,
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: he he might want to be gone. Right at that point, like,
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna get that anyway, if you're gonna bench
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: him at the end of the year, now when the
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: whole operation has been an absolute mess, him included, but
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: it's not just been him that's been a mess, and
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: then you're gonna try to roll it back with him
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: next year and and try to get you know, coach
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: him back up. I just think at that point you've
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: you've already basically broken broken him ninety five percent of
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: the way. But if you do that, then you then
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: that you lost him, and then you're back at square one.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: You're getting that email ready if okay, so he's playing
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: this week, and Bill said said as much. Okay, but
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: would there be any way Yeah, that's true. It wasn't
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: wasn't defended him. Um is there any way is there
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: anything to be gained by? Like, because you have to
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: have some doubts, right, You're you say, like, I know
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: you come off as a mac apologist, but even you
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: would have doubts, Right, I have doubts. So I think
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: we all have some doubts to varying degrees. So Bill
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: has to two, right, would there be any benefit to saying, yeah,
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: I know I risk losing the guy. But you know what,
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: I gotta make that risk because I gotta find out
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: if this other kid, you know, was it just a
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: flash in the pan? Was it just because of better
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: play calls? Was it just because of the opponent? Was
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: all the different things that we say, yeah, but were
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: they all yeah? Butts? Or does the kid have something?
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: And maybe you play him the last two games and
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: you find out, yeah, he stinks too, or he goes
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: out there and it's like, yeah, we didn't win the games,
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: but it looked a lot better. We were functional. But
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: to I don't, I don't know, like to what end
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: that you have a legitimate or you have a legitimate competition,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: not necessarily going into the it proves that Mac not
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: doing it like we're giving him. You know again, don't
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: change the offense when you put ZAPPI in. Do the
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: exact same thing you would if Mac was. And if
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: it looks better with Zappy, it may not means necessarily
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: as Zappy's good, It just means that Mac right, like
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: I'll give I'll give you one like and this is
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: and I don't believe in that, but I'm just no, no,
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: I don't believe in all this I'm giving you like
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: hypotheticals in like, so like if you lose them, okay,
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: and I agree with you, guys, you can't do it
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: because you lose them. But what if like they just
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: look at it and say, like, like, what are we losing? Right?
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: And I might be able to gain I might be
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: able I might be able to find out I'm gaining
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: knowledge perfectly put, I might find out that the other
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: guy has more than I thought, because I just again,
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: I feel like, with the right supporting cast, with the
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: right coach, that Mac Jones might not be in this
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: elite top five quarterback ever, but I think he can
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: be a stable NFL starter, And I think that that's
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: worth keeping, keeping him bought into being here. It's worth
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: it because the alternative is is somebody that you know,
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: it's like the it's the old family guy in mystery box, right, Like, Okay,
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: So we go back into the first round and we
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: take another quarterback and then hopefully that guy you know,
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: like we're doing it all over. Yeah, I'm just if
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: he's if we can get him back to where he
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: was last year and he's Kirk Cousins, Derek Carr or
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: something like that. For you, and that's better than nothing.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: I'm operating under the assumption that they have decided that
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: that's probably not going to happen. So like if I
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: lose them, yeah, I don't really think I have anything
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: to lose that and I don't think that will happen.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: I think Mac Jones, barring an injury, is going to
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: play the last three games and business as usual. But yeah,
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: you never know, all right. What I do know is
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: that's it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. And I
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• 1:58:23
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