Latest / Real Donald Trump Wisdom / Tuesday at Trump Tower (1987)
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- 0:00Hi guys, so here we're back at Trump Tower Tuesday in 1987.
- 0:10So again another very busy day for Trump and a lot of lesson learned in yet another day.
- 0:17So it kicks off with him getting a call from someone who's interested in selling the Beverly
- 0:26Hills Hotel in LA.
- 0:31And although Trump attended that hotel multiple times when he was a bit younger, 10 to 15
- 0:39years prior, he's not fully convinced by this opportunity and he says he doesn't let his
- 0:50personal preference affect his business judgement.
- 0:53So it's not because he's been exposed to that hotel in the past and he enjoyed his time
- 0:59there that he's going to consider this opportunity different than another, with any set of different
- 1:06criteria than he would otherwise.
- 1:08So this personal preference is not affecting his business judgement.
- 1:14Secondly there's a theme that repeats again throughout this day, it's to never waste yours
- 1:19or someone else's time.
- 1:21To go straight to the point, and there's many instances where he shows how much he values
- 1:27that, the ability to go straight to the point.
- 1:32For example he's going to mention one of his interactions with a top real estate attorney.
- 1:38He's going to say Jerry's more than an attorney, he's an absolute business machine and he can
- 1:43see through to the essence of a deal as fast as anyone I know.
- 1:49And he says we cover a half dozen subjects in less than 10 minutes.
- 1:54Similarly when he has calls with his investment bankers, he can come to a conclusion in two
- 2:01minutes.
- 2:05Again a theme that's recurring is a lot to go with gut instinct.
- 2:09And if you hear, of course this is focused on Donald Trump, but from other top CEOs,
- 2:16gut instinct is often referred to as a superior intelligence versus purely an analytical analysis
- 2:31if you will, forgive the repetition.
- 2:34Essentially Trump prefers to go with his gut and he's going to, here's another interesting
- 2:44quote on trusting his gut.
- 2:48He says I hear Lee and his guys on their deal, but in truth it doesn't excite me much.
- 2:53We leave it at that and I'll get back to them.
- 2:56So he shows that he trusts his gut so much that he'll listen to someone else and he'll
- 3:04see how he feels about it.
- 3:07And if it didn't convince him, it didn't convince him.
- 3:10He adds another quote, Larry's both a bright and a nice guy and he's very enthusiastic,
- 3:15but he doesn't convince me.
- 3:17Here again we see how much importance he gives to letting almost his body speak to him in
- 3:23terms of should he go forward or not with his gut instinct.
- 3:27So he hears it out, but he's going to go with the gut feeling.
- 3:36So he encourages, you're going to see an interesting change in tax that happens at the time that
- 3:43is going to benefit him, but he sees the second order consequence and the incentives behind
- 3:52it.
- 3:53So he says I still believe this law will be a disaster for the country since it eliminates
- 3:58incentives to invest and build, particularly in secondary locations where no building will
- 4:03occur unless there are incentives.
- 4:06So he comes to the, with foresight, another one of his attributes, he sees that although
- 4:15he's getting relief by certain tax that came into passing, this is not going to be good
- 4:21for the industry as a whole and for ultimately for the country because the incentives are
- 4:29becoming lessened.
- 4:31And if you want to quote the great Charlie Munger, he's going to say that show me the
- 4:40incentive, I'll show you the outcome.
- 4:43And he refers to incentives as the driving force behind human motivation and human action
- 4:51and accomplishment.
- 4:53So understanding second order consequences and incentives is also a big thing.
- 4:59And he then follows up by thanking the senator who stood against this new tax bill.
- 5:09So he says I don't know that for personally, but he's one of the few senators who fought
- 5:13hard against this new tax bill.
- 5:14It's probably too late, but I just want to congratulate him on having the courage of
- 5:19his convictions, even though it might cost him politically.
- 5:23Of course, this is a recurring theme in Trump's life and his political life.
- 5:28So here the lesson is to cultivate the courage to speak up your convictions even when it
- 5:32may be unpopular.
- 5:34This is another lesson we can walk away with.
- 5:40Earlier we mentioned his tendency to protect or to not waste time for others.
- 5:45He's also mindful of time for his.
- 5:47To protect his time, he says frankly I'm not too big on parties because I can't stand small
- 5:52talk.
- 5:53Unfortunately, they're part of doing business, so I find myself going to more than I'd like.
- 5:58And then trying hard to leave early.
- 6:01Talking to his investment bankers, he says that he likes to keep as many options open
- 6:07as I can.
- 6:08So he's deliberating whether he should acquire the holiday inn hotel or wait until he gets
- 6:13a casino license before doing that in Nevada.
- 6:19He gets a call from a landowner, an undeveloped land in Las Vegas, and he's thinking that
- 6:27they also own perhaps the best undeveloped site on the Vegas trip.
- 6:33For the right price, I'd consider buying it.
- 6:35I like the casino business.
- 6:36I like the scale, which is huge.
- 6:38I like the glamour, and most of all I like the cash flow.
- 6:41If you know what you're doing and you run your operation reasonably well, you can make
- 6:44a very nice profit.
- 6:46If you run it very well, you can make a ton of money.
- 6:50This will likely be the genesis of the Trump Las Vegas later on.
- 6:54So here the idea is to think right price and to think cash flow.
- 6:59So again, to not be emotional in the decision making process and for the right price, meaning
- 7:05not at any price, regardless of how attractive a piece of land, a piece of property, a stock
- 7:11may look like, right price is a real metric.
- 7:17Cash flow, of course, in real estate, is another one that's important.
- 7:23He was supposed to meet one of the mayor's officials for city planning, and he didn't
- 7:31get through to him on the phone, so he left a message.
- 7:36The message was very brief.
- 7:38Instead of laying out his pleas or what he would have wanted to ask on a voice note,
- 7:45that's not the smartest thing to do.
- 7:48It's long.
- 7:49It's impersonal.
- 7:51He lacks a report.
- 7:53He just left a message with his secretary saying, I'm looking forward to seeing him
- 7:58on Friday morning.
- 8:00So keeping things brief is recurring again.
- 8:03You mentioned the cultivated ability to see through the essence of a deal as fast as possible,
- 8:09to be quick thinking.
- 8:12In the afternoon, Trump gets a visit from his wife and he explains how and where he
- 8:16met her.
- 8:17He came from the Czech Republic and was a skier in Czechoslovakia before coming to Montreal
- 8:27in Canada where she was a model.
- 8:31She was attending events at the Montreal Summer Olympic Games in 1976.
- 8:37So Donald Trump met his wife Ivana in Montreal and he says, I dated a lot of different women
- 8:48by then, but I'd never gotten seriously involved with any of them.
- 8:51Ivana wasn't someone you dated casually.
- 8:53Ten months later, in April 1977, we were married.
- 8:57So of course he met someone he thought was of high potential to spend a life with and
- 9:04they had three children that we now know who've been raised in some ways exemplarily.
- 9:15So Trump made the bet to marry the woman he met ten months later.
- 9:22That's a comment on his first wife Ivana.
- 9:28He gets calls from Cadillac, the iconic branch from General Motors.
- 9:33They want to brand a limousine to his name or a set of limousines to his last name that
- 9:40was already well known.
- 9:42And we'll see that his knowledge of the automobile industry is going to be useful a bit later
- 9:48on in subsequent books.
- 9:53So we're going to find out that he predicted their demise or to be more accurate, their
- 10:00bankruptcy.
- 10:02So these books were written in the late 80s and he's going to write books in the early
- 10:0890s.
- 10:09And we'll see that in 2009, the three big auto manufacturers indeed needed government
- 10:17bailouts to avoid bankruptcy.
- 10:20So they were indeed in that situation that he's going to pass.
- 10:24So you'll see a lot of foresight in forthcoming editions.
- 10:32A comment on loyalty.
- 10:33So he's approached by Drexel Burnham Lambert, then a well established investment bank of
- 10:43Michael Milken fame and or in famous depending on how you see it for that set of events.
- 10:54They want to be their Trump's investment maker, but Trump said that he's going to remain with
- 11:02Alan Greenberg from Bear Stearns.
- 11:04This is comment on loyalty.
- 11:06He says, in any case, I happen to think Mike's referring to Michael Milken's a brilliant
- 11:11guy.
- 11:12However, Alan Greenberg is exceptional himself and I'm loyal to people who've done good work
- 11:17for me.
- 11:19So we should see that loyalty is an important value to Trump.
- 11:25He wants people who are competent and who have good intentions.
- 11:30So of course, these two don't always go together, but he wants both competence and good intentions
- 11:38for them.
- 11:39So that's something that he values highly.
- 11:43He's meaning good work for him and it goes both ways.
- 11:51He's good to the people who are good to him, both in the sense of competence and of good
- 12:00intentions.
- 12:02On trusting your gut instinct.
- 12:04So see, he's going to listen.
- 12:07So he's very open minded.
- 12:09He's exposed to different deals and he listens to proposals, but you'll see his reaction.
- 12:16We trust his gut instincts.
- 12:19So he's going to say, I hear Lee and his guys out on their deal, but in truth, it doesn't
- 12:24excite me much.
- 12:25We'll leave it at that and I'll get it back to them.
- 12:29This is the first example where he's looking internally to see does the deal excite him,
- 12:36yes or no.
- 12:37And secondly, Larry's both a bright and a nice guy.
- 12:43He's very enthusiastic, but he doesn't convince me.
- 12:46I mentioned that earlier in this episode, but it's worth mentioning again.
- 12:51So he lets himself get convinced.
- 12:57He's exposing himself to arguments and he's observing how internally is he being convinced
- 13:06or not.
- 13:07His trust in his instinct, in his natural instinct, which we all have, is, I don't want
- 13:14to say full proof, but almost.
- 13:16He really believes that his body is going to tell him the right conclusion from being
- 13:22exposed to these arguments.
- 13:24So he's not convinced and he's not excited.
- 13:27We see that it's really at the gut level and this is another lesson we can take.
- 13:34So listen to your gut.
- 13:37And he's going to comment on the success of Calvin Klein.
- 13:39He says he's a very talented designer, but he's also a very good salesman and businessman.
- 13:45And it's a combination of those qualities that makes him so successful.
- 13:48So you could be a product designer.
- 13:51You're going to need to know sales skills and business skills to make things a commercial
- 13:58success.
- 13:59These are two attributes that we could probably apply to any profession.
- 14:05So don't underestimate the power of having good sales skills.
- 14:10And finally, responding to a fake news article by the New York Times, he says, the way I
- 14:16see it, critics get to say what they want about my work, so why shouldn't I be able
- 14:19to say what I want about theirs?
- 14:21So for him, it's fair game.
- 14:22If he's getting criticized, he can criticize back, given that there's fallible humans beyond
- 14:28every organization and they can also make mistakes.
- 14:30To summarize, don't let personal preferences affect your business judgment.
- 14:34Don't waste yours or someone else's time.
- 14:35Go straight to the point.
- 14:36Keep things brief.
- 14:38Think of second order consequences and incentives.
- 14:41Cultivate the courage to speak up your convictions even when it may be unpopular.
- 14:44Think right price and cash flow.
- 14:47Cultivate the ability to see through the essence of a deal as fast as possible.
- 14:51Be loyal to those who are loyal to you.
- 14:54And listen to your gut.
- 14:55I hope you enjoyed this episode and see you on the next one.
- 14:59Thanks.
- 15:00NEXT comme.