Latest / Pastor John Piper's answers / Will We Work in Eternity?
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- 0:03Happy Monday. Today is Labor Day for many of us, a day when
- 0:07we rest from our work and think of well, just about anything but work.
- 0:13But here we are talking about work, actually, and we're doing it
- 0:17because a number of you have emailed over the years wanting to know about work
- 0:20in eternity. Here's one version of that email from a listener named Steve pastor
- 0:25John. Hello, and thank you for this podcast. I have a question
- 0:28about work in heaven or work in the New Creation. To be more exact,
- 0:34First, will we work in the New Creation? And if so,
- 0:38what types of vocations will be needed? Does the Bible give us any hints
- 0:42here? And if we work, do you think this future vocation will resonate
- 0:47with or consummate some gifting that we always felt drawn to express here on earth,
- 0:53whether or not we could make money doing it here? And if you
- 0:57answer yes to all of this, put on your out of prediction. What
- 1:00will you be doing in eternity. Let's start with what we know for sure
- 1:07about the eternal future that all those all of us who are in Christ will
- 1:15definitely enjoy. Jesus said that we will be with him, we will see
- 1:22his glory, we will have the capacity to love him with the very love
- 1:26that the Father has for him. As John seventeen twenty four to twenty six.
- 1:33The Apostle, John tells us in his first letter in the third chapter,
- 1:37we will see him and we will be like him, and that includes
- 1:41both sinless purity of heart and the glory of our new resurrection bodies. According
- 1:49to Philippin's three twenty one and then Revelation twenty one, John tells us that
- 1:56God will wipe away every tear from our eyes, and death will be no
- 2:00more. Neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore.
- 2:07And then Psalm sixteen eleven twists that around and makes it positive, namely,
- 2:14in God's presence we will have fullness of joy and pleasures Forevermore of that is
- 2:23for sure. Now the question is will work be part of our experience of
- 2:30that eternal joy in God's presence? And I think the answer is yes.
- 2:38But I say that not because the Bible has decisive statements to that effect,
- 2:46but because there are significant pointers in that direction. So I wouldn't elevate this
- 2:53conviction that I'm going to argue for here to a top level doctrine, but
- 2:59rather call it a reasonable probable hope. And if not this, then something
- 3:06way better. I mean, if it turns out it won't be what you
- 3:09think you thought it was, it's going to be better because we know there'll
- 3:15be no sorrow there, no regret, no frustration, no disappointment with God's
- 3:20decisions about what our happiness should look like. So here are my six pointers,
- 3:29and then I'll end with a caution. Number one, And these are
- 3:35pointers for why we can be relatively confident there will be work for us to
- 3:42do in the age to come, in our eternity with God. Number one.
- 3:47God himself is a worker, and we will be more like him then,
- 3:53not less than we are now Genesis two. Two. On the seventh
- 3:59day, God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on
- 4:05the seventh day from all the work that he had done. And Jesus said
- 4:10in John five seventeen, my father is working until now and I am working.
- 4:17So God is a worker. Number two. God created man to be
- 4:25a worker before the fall into sin. The curse that fell on man after
- 4:32the fall was not work but feudal work, miserable work, sweaty work that
- 4:40makes us hate it want to play instead of working. But God made man
- 4:46from the beginning to work the world, shape the world Genesis one twenty eight.
- 4:53And God blessed him, blessed them, and God said to them,
- 4:59be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it, and have
- 5:03dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens,
- 5:09and over every living thing that moves on the earth. And then Genesis
- 5:13two fifteen, the Lord God took the man and put him in the garden
- 5:18of Eden to work it and keep it. Number three. The parable that
- 5:26describes how Jesus settles accounts with his servants at the Second Coming suggests that now
- 5:33that Jesus has come, they will have work given them to do. In
- 5:40Luke nineteen seventeen, the master says, well done, good servant, because
- 5:46you have been faithful in a very little you shall have authority over ten cities.
- 5:53Now, whether that's parabolic or metaphorical, it may well to the fact
- 6:00something like that we will be given responsibility in the age to come. Number
- 6:06four. According to Ephesians two ten, we are God's workmanship created in Christ
- 6:16Jesus, four good works which got prepared beforehand that we should walk in.
- 6:24When Paul identified a purpose for the new creature in christ Us, he said
- 6:31the purpose was work, good works. Number five Isaiah sixty five, seventeen
- 6:39to twenty five describes the new heavens and the new Earth to include work Versus
- 6:45twenty one following go like this, They shall build houses and inhabit them.
- 6:51They shall plant vineyards and eat their fruit. My chosen shall long enjoy the
- 7:00work of their hands. They shall not labor in vain or bear children for
- 7:08calamity. Now, the reason I say this is only a pointer, not
- 7:15a decisive statement, even though I may look like that about work in the
- 7:20final state, is that there is serious disagreement about whether this passage in Zaiah
- 7:30sixty five is a description of our final state, because it speaks of bearing
- 7:38children, and Jesus said that in the final state there would be no marriage
- 7:43and presumably no bearing of children. And in the age to come, we're
- 7:48not going to experience death. And yet verse twenty says a young man will
- 7:53die a hundred years old in the New creation. We know there is no
- 7:59death in the Age to come. So what the disagreement is is whether those
- 8:05kinds of statements here in Isaiah sixty five are somehow metaphorical for eternal life in
- 8:15the Age to come, which I have never been able to understand how death
- 8:22is a symbol for life, or whether this is a description of a millennial
- 8:28period after the Second Coming, which is much higher in its blessing, higher
- 8:35level than presently in blessing than now, but not yet the final stage of
- 8:43the new heavens and the New Earth. And that would be my view.
- 8:48But in either case, whether those are metaphorical statements and that we will be
- 8:56working in the final state, or whether this is a next stage of redemptive
- 9:01history in which yes, there will be work, and maybe pointing to the
- 9:07fact that there's work in the final state. It seems to me that we
- 9:13can't settle that with enough certainty to persuade all the evangelicals who love the Bible.
- 9:18I mean, I've got a good friends who disagree with me on this,
- 9:22and so I don't call those verses in Isaiah sixty five a decisive,
- 9:28precise statement that there will be work in the final state, but it seems
- 9:33to me it points in that direction. Number six, when you take sin
- 9:37out of the heart and out of the world, which will happen in the
- 9:41Age to come, the line between work and play becomes almost invisible. What
- 9:50is play when all our work will be totally enjoyable? I mean, totally
- 9:58is there's no work now, it is totally enjoyable. All work has some
- 10:03element to it we find frustrating or disappointing, or feudal or discouraging. Perhaps
- 10:11speculation. Perhaps there will be sweet weariness of mind and body, new body
- 10:20getting weary in the age to come that needs something different than its usual occupation,
- 10:30namely rest and play. I don't know, Because work itself will be
- 10:35so profoundly satisfying and sweet and enjoyable, nobody will say I need a weekend.
- 10:41I got to have some playtime, because everything will be as happy and
- 10:46satisfying as play. But there may be a difference, And that word perhaps,
- 10:52I mean I've been using the word perhaps all along. Leads me to
- 10:56wrap up with a caution about making more precise statements about the age to come
- 11:03than the Bible gives us warrant to make. There are cautions in the Bible
- 11:07that remind us the glories of the age to come are going to be beyond
- 11:13our present comprehension and imagination. Second Chrinatian's twelve four, Paul said he saw
- 11:20things in heaven that no man can utter. A First Corintians two nine,
- 11:26Paul says that God has prepared things for those who love Him that are beyond
- 11:31human imagination. They've never entered into the heart of man. He tells us
- 11:35that our resurrection bodies will be spiritual bodies. Well, who can say all
- 11:43that is involved in a spiritual body? John speaks in Revelation twenty three of
- 11:52a world in which there will be no need of sun or moon, because
- 11:58the glory of God give it light, and its lamp is the lamb.
- 12:01Well, who can imagine a world with no sources of created light, but
- 12:09only God's light? And in Revelation twenty one eighteen, John says the city
- 12:16New Jerusalem, this city was pure gold, like clear glass. What's that
- 12:26gold that is clear as glass? Jonathan Edwards wrote an entire sermon on that
- 12:33text, Revelation twenty and eighteen, and here's the title. Nothing on earth
- 12:39can represent the glories of Heaven because there's no such thing on earth as gold
- 12:46that is clear as glass. And that's what it's going to be like.
- 12:50So yes, I think we will work in the Final Age to come,
- 12:54whether we will do what we were gifted for here, or whether we will
- 13:00have holy new giftings a thousand times greater, or what kind of work John
- 13:05Piper will be doing. I leave in the hands of God, who planned
- 13:11the universe for the happiness of his people in himself, we will not be
- 13:18disappointed. Yeah, amen, we know that for sure. There's no disappointments
- 13:22in store and the new creation. Thank you, pastor John, and thank
- 13:26you for joining us today, and Happy Labor Day for those of you for
- 13:30whom this applies. I'm your host, Tony Ranki, and we will see
- 13:33you back here on Thursday talking about Calvinism. We'll see you then,