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  Speaker 1: of setting the table before we fully dive into prospect
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  Speaker 1: evaluation full tilt. What's up roun, I see you there
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  Speaker 1: in the chat. How you doing? Before we fully dive
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  Speaker 1: into position group analysis prospect evaluation here on the show,
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  Speaker 1: A little bit of housekeeping. What I have for you,
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  Speaker 1: folks the next several weeks is positions of need for
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  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, and I will be diving into day
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  Speaker 1: one possibilities, Day two possibilities, Day three possibilities, and I'll
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  Speaker 1: be doing so with a guest, a different guest each week,
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  Speaker 1: diving into different position groups, getting their thoughts, what they
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  Speaker 1: like from the position group, their evaluations, skill sets, traits,
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  Speaker 1: fits for the bills again on each day, all of
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  Speaker 1: that going forward. So that will start next week leading
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  Speaker 1: us up into the draft. So I'm excited for the
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  Speaker 1: next several weeks, really full steam ahead, getting into anything
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  Speaker 1: and everything for these positions and needs, the prospects, all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff for the draft and before we get to
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  Speaker 1: that again. I wanted to just have this last episode
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  Speaker 1: to kind of finish setting the table for the Bills.
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  Speaker 1: What we did on last week's episode kind of looked
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  Speaker 1: at the Bills roster from a twenty twenty five perspective,
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  Speaker 1: but also from a future perspective, and then took a
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  Speaker 1: look at positions of need based off of that to
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  Speaker 1: kind of see, what does this roster look like right now,
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  Speaker 1: what does it look like in the future, What do
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  Speaker 1: they need now, what do they need for the future.
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  Speaker 1: We looked at players from a quality perspective currently on
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  Speaker 1: the roster and from a contract perspective, and then tie
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  Speaker 1: that into some prospects that could potentially fit the Bills
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  Speaker 1: roster needs on day one and two. In this episode,
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  Speaker 1: some more prospect discussion, but more from the conversation and
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  Speaker 1: discussion aspect of the archetypes that the Bills have at
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  Speaker 1: these positions of need. I think a lot of this conversation,
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  Speaker 1: and we do this every year, and I'm not even
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  Speaker 1: just saying within the Bills community, but I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: fans at large or teams at large, so much of
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  Speaker 1: the conversation of man I want this guy, or man
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  Speaker 1: I want that guy. I think a lot of it
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  Speaker 1: tends to get lost within the scope of what does
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  Speaker 1: the team tend to gravitate towards. And I'm even guilty
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  Speaker 1: of this, And then I usually try to label these
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  Speaker 1: discussions at these points, especially on social So much for
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  Speaker 1: me is like, man, I want them to take this guy,
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  Speaker 1: and I always try to put the little like asterisk
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  Speaker 1: or the caveat of they probably won't because he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: fit because X, Y and Z. But I'd like them
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  Speaker 1: to take this guy because I think he could help
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  Speaker 1: them do this, or help them tweak this or evolve
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  Speaker 1: in this way, so on and so forth and so
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  Speaker 1: so much of the conversation when it comes to draft
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  Speaker 1: time isn't just you know a player that you like
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  Speaker 1: or the individual valuation. It's do they fit the scheme?
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  Speaker 1: Do they fit the archetype for that position group? If
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm just just to give a random example,
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  Speaker 1: like if the you know you really like this corner
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  Speaker 1: because this team you know, this example I'm when you
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  Speaker 1: use is going to feel specific, but it wasn't. I
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  Speaker 1: swear you know this corner is really good at man coverage,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And do you do you want that corner
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  Speaker 1: because you want them to play more man coverage, But
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  Speaker 1: does that team really play man coverage? Are they good
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  Speaker 1: at do they play more zone? Is it vice versa?
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  Speaker 1: You want, you know, this smaller, shifty, route running type
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  Speaker 1: of receiver. Is that the type of offense do they
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  Speaker 1: they run? Do they need bigger bodies? Do they need
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  Speaker 1: guys that can block? Do they need guys that can
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  Speaker 1: work in condensed sets? Do you need someone inside outside
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  Speaker 1: someone and so forth? And so I wanted to dive
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  Speaker 1: into this episode again looking at several positions of need,
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  Speaker 1: continue continuing the conversation we had last week and focusing
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  Speaker 1: on my biggest areas of need for the Buffalo Bills
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  Speaker 1: here and just taking a look at the cover or
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  Speaker 1: having a conversation I should say, centered around taking a
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  Speaker 1: look into this roster, what the Bills have done traditionally
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  Speaker 1: at these positions, and then tying that into prospects that
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  Speaker 1: could potentially fit that mold, using them as an example.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be diving too much into prospects in
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  Speaker 1: this episode again, that's going to come in the next
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  Speaker 1: several weeks and a bit like we did last week
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  Speaker 1: in last week's episode, But if you do have any questions, thoughts, comments,
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  Speaker 1: concerns on any prospects throughout the episode tonight. If you
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  Speaker 1: are joining me live, feel free to put it up
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  Speaker 1: into the chat. I will answer anything and everything that
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  Speaker 1: I can as it comes through. If you're not watching
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  Speaker 1: me on one of the socials, anything and anything I
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  Speaker 1: can answer for you, I gladly will and show so again, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: not gonna not dive into too many prospects, but giving
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  Speaker 1: several prospects as examples, why they fit, why they don't,
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  Speaker 1: so on and so forth. But again, feel free to
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  Speaker 1: put anything and everything that you got into the chat.
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  Speaker 1: Super chats as always get priority because I respect the
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  Speaker 1: monetary donation and I see the color and it takes
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  Speaker 1: me away from my notes and he allows me to
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  Speaker 1: focus on that. But I will try to get to
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  Speaker 1: everything in the chat as humanly possible, going through some
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  Speaker 1: of the stuff. Now. Appreciate you Ron for the very
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  Speaker 1: kind words. RJ with Yeah, some news that happened in
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  Speaker 1: the last hour or so, maybe hour and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Argie says, hey everyone, he said not looking forward to
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  Speaker 1: Diggs trying only two games a year against the Bills. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: if im Diggs signed a three year contract with the
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  Speaker 1: New England page, it's up the sixty nine million dollars,
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  Speaker 1: I think twenty six million guaranteed. I'm interested to see
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  Speaker 1: how the contract kind of lays out in terms of
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  Speaker 1: how much money will he actually realistically accrue over those
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  Speaker 1: three years. Is it a true three, is it more
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  Speaker 1: of a two plus one? Is it more of a
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  Speaker 1: one plus a two. Interested to see what that looks
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  Speaker 1: like for Stefan Diggs and interesting for the fit. I
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  Speaker 1: think the fit works. I like Drake May as a quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: I think what Digs can do to elevate that wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver room and how he fits with May and the offense. Again,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see new coaching staff gotta out of all that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff, But yeah, I think it's a good
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  Speaker 1: fit for Drake May. At least we'll see if it's
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  Speaker 1: a good fit for Digs and what that means for
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  Speaker 1: the Pats. Yeah. I still think he's got some good
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  Speaker 1: juice left in the tank. He looked good in Houston
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  Speaker 1: last year. Man Houston kind of got robbed a little
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  Speaker 1: bit last year and Nico Collins went down for a
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  Speaker 1: good chunk of the year, and then Digs went down,
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  Speaker 1: and then Tank Dell went down. They and they still
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  Speaker 1: you know, went to the playoffs and did their thing
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  Speaker 1: Final fourteen. But yeah, I lost a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity to kind of see what they could have
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  Speaker 1: done in the AFE last year. Baldylocks saying good even
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  Speaker 1: and everybody, what's up? What's up? Billy De says, do
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  Speaker 1: we double up? Ooh man, this is a heart dating
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  Speaker 1: question right off ritt. Billy De says, do we do
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  Speaker 1: we double up on corner and let Benford walk after
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  Speaker 1: the season? Oh? My prob Two things. One, even the
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  Speaker 1: most surefire, can't miss prospect isn't a surefire, can't miss prospect.
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  Speaker 1: So you could take a you could take a corner
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  Speaker 1: with every single pick in this draft, and there's a
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  Speaker 1: chance that every single one of those corners are gonna
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  Speaker 1: bottom out and you're not gonna get what you want.
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  Speaker 1: Granted I doubt that would happen, but still just kind
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  Speaker 1: of putting it out there from an odds probability perspective.
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  Speaker 1: Christian Benford has been crushing it CB one. I think
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  Speaker 1: either he's still ascending a bit. I think he's getting
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  Speaker 1: close to that ceiling, but he's continued to improve year
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  Speaker 1: over year. I don't mind if they double dip on
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  Speaker 1: corner strictly because I don't think the long term answers
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  Speaker 1: at corner or on this roster. We talked about it
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  Speaker 1: last week. Right now, you're looking at Benford, you're looking
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  Speaker 1: at Dan Jackson, you're looking at JaMarcus Ingram. Like I
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  Speaker 1: think there's Dan Jackson only signed a one year. I
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  Speaker 1: think you legitimately have questions on the bills roster right now.
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  Speaker 1: At CB two and CB three, I think Dane is
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  Speaker 1: more of a CB four to a high end CB three,
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  Speaker 1: just based on the system. JaMarcus Ingram has some inside
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  Speaker 1: outside versatility, but is very much unproven. If you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to plug him anywhere on the depth trot, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: really fight you too much. But I like the idea
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  Speaker 1: of double dipping, especially you know, if they get a
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  Speaker 1: corner on or at pick thirty or even on if
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  Speaker 1: it comes in round two, and then taking another one
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  Speaker 1: in round four, round five, depending on what you got
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  Speaker 1: with whoever falls. I like the idea of double dipping
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  Speaker 1: a corner. Oh Letting Benford Walk, I think is just very, very,
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  Speaker 1: very risky. Who knows. If you like what you get
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  Speaker 1: from the corners, you know, maybe there's something they see
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  Speaker 1: that we don't know and they feel comfortable doing it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very hesitant to let a very good player at
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  Speaker 1: a premium position walk. I don't think it's completely crazy,
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  Speaker 1: but I I would not advocate for that at this
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  Speaker 1: at this state in the game, or at the stage
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  Speaker 1: of the game. Man eight minutes fifty five seconds in
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  Speaker 1: first flub, I think I had wondering the intro too,
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  Speaker 1: so maybe that is a I've had a flub before this,
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  Speaker 1: but I apop that. I like where your heads at
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  Speaker 1: though interesting getting the juices flow, and I like it.
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  Speaker 1: Ron says, hopefully they make a shift of defensive tackling
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  Speaker 1: go bigger. We will definitely be getting into that conversation
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  Speaker 1: tonight when it comes to the defensive tackle piece. Ron
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  Speaker 1: also following up with some secondary stuff, saying we need
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  Speaker 1: more speed and athleticism in the secondary, especially at corner.
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  Speaker 1: We will be talking about that. I like where your
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  Speaker 1: head is at already. Oh Man Baldy is saying, or
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  Speaker 1: see what we can get for corner and triple it man,
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  Speaker 1: people like not advocating for for jettison jettisoning Benford out,
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  Speaker 1: but man Ron says, we need to add two cbs
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  Speaker 1: in the draft. John, what's up? John? John says, Bean
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  Speaker 1: is always always negotiating. We just don't know about it.
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  Speaker 1: I trust in being to extend Bedford. I do as well,
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  Speaker 1: just with how everything's shaken out. Maybe it's one that
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  Speaker 1: happens later in the spring or in the summer, or
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  Speaker 1: right before the you know, in camp, or right before
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  Speaker 1: the start of the season. I the way his fit
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  Speaker 1: has been, being a homegrown guy, being within the system
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  Speaker 1: for all these years, I think it just makes logical
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  Speaker 1: sense to extend him. I would be disappointed if they
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  Speaker 1: did not, especially considering that, you know, what they paid
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  Speaker 1: at other spots. But you know, that's just my two cents,
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  Speaker 1: no pun intended. Laratist says, after what happened with Elam,
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  Speaker 1: you keep Benford. I would like to see them keep
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  Speaker 1: Christian Bedford again. And you know, I feel like it's
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  Speaker 1: the success of Christian Benford cost Kayer Elim. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like Elam was Gomorrah and the Bills were Thanos, and
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  Speaker 1: to get that soul Stone and Christian Benford. It costs
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  Speaker 1: kyer Elam, but it is what is. Sometimes it works out,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't. I think with that being said, let's
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  Speaker 1: dive into corner in terms of being you know, the
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  Speaker 1: first position we talk about here, my number one position
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  Speaker 1: of me currently on this rosteralked about the reasons why
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  Speaker 1: for that in the last week's episode. Not trying to
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  Speaker 1: do a cheap plug for last week's episode, but if
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  Speaker 1: you didn't catch that, get into that episode for the
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  Speaker 1: reasons why with corner, interior, defensive line, edge wide, receiver safety,
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  Speaker 1: what the roster looks like now, under contract quality, depth
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  Speaker 1: chart this year, next year, that go forward, all that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I don't want to rehash too much
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  Speaker 1: of it in this episode, but I did a deep
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  Speaker 1: dive into all that last week. When it comes to corner.
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  Speaker 1: What I think is very interesting with this spot, and
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  Speaker 1: some of you guys have already alluded to it in
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  Speaker 1: the chat, what I would like for them to have
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  Speaker 1: a corner. Let me start with that going forward, and
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  Speaker 1: I've talked about it on the show. I've talked about
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  Speaker 1: it really for the past couple of seasons. But the
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  Speaker 1: bills need at corner, especially with what we saw in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. They need more airspace restrictors. They need
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  Speaker 1: corners who can play and tighten passing windows. Now, this
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  Speaker 1: can happen in a multitude of ways. It could be
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  Speaker 1: a corner who plays press. It could be a corner
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  Speaker 1: who's very good in man coverage. It could be a
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  Speaker 1: corner that's good at both of those things. It could
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  Speaker 1: be a corner who's got a quick trigger or good
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  Speaker 1: eyes and as the ability to jump routes or play
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  Speaker 1: with anticipation read receivers. There's a multitude of ways in
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  Speaker 1: which you can kind of address this. The easiest for
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  Speaker 1: me or kind of low access that I'm thinking about.
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  Speaker 1: It's part of the reason why I gravitated towards somebody
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  Speaker 1: like Trey Amos Is. Play some press, get into receivers
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  Speaker 1: on the line of scrimmage. You can either have a
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  Speaker 1: true press and jam them at the line, or you
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  Speaker 1: can just soft shoe mirror them with your feet, that
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  Speaker 1: type of deal. But give me somebody who's capable of
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  Speaker 1: playing press. Give me somebody who's capable of playing man coverage.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody who's able to stay in phase and stay in
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  Speaker 1: the kitchen of these wide receivers. And restrict that airspace
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  Speaker 1: create a disconnect between the timing of the receiver and
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  Speaker 1: the timing of the quarterbacks. So if they look and
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  Speaker 1: they're trying to throw something quick, or they got a
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  Speaker 1: one to three step drop and they're looking to spit
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  Speaker 1: it out fast, and uh oh, there's a corner either
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  Speaker 1: right on my guy and the stem is changed and
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  Speaker 1: I can't throw right now, or the coverage is too
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  Speaker 1: tight and I don't want to throw it. Or you've
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  Speaker 1: got a corner who's sitting off a little bit, but
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  Speaker 1: you know that he's sitting on a certain type of route.
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  Speaker 1: He's got the trigger where he can jump and close
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  Speaker 1: and make you pay if you throw it out there
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  Speaker 1: and your location isn't right or the timing isn't right,
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  Speaker 1: they need more airspace restricts constrictors at that spot. I
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  Speaker 1: also think to Ron's points earlier, it was Ron want
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  Speaker 1: to make sure, Yes, I think some of that also
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  Speaker 1: ties into the speed and athleticism in the secondary as
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  Speaker 1: a whole, but especially at corner. I would like them
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  Speaker 1: to be able to kind of fight fire with fire
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  Speaker 1: at the wide receiver spot for years, and also to
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  Speaker 1: it's not like I don't want to cast anybody into
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  Speaker 1: much of a bad light because they've had good corner play.
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  Speaker 1: But Trey White, you know, was more technical than he
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  Speaker 1: was anything, and he was tremendous. He was an all pro.
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  Speaker 1: Benford really takes a lot of boxes in a multitude
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  Speaker 1: of ways. Is a good athlete. I wouldn't say necessarily
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  Speaker 1: a plus athlete or a burner, but the size, the
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  Speaker 1: length of physicality, the flexibility, the hip sync. He's able
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  Speaker 1: to do so much throughout recognition, the confidence, all those things.
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  Speaker 1: He takes a lot of boxes. But Rasoul Douglas wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a burner, but was a good corner until he kind
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  Speaker 1: of fell off a little bit in twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: And aside from that corner too, has always been the
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  Speaker 1: Levi Wallace's, the Dane Jackson's, these guys that are very
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  Speaker 1: technically sound, functionally responsible in their assignments and their responsibilities,
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  Speaker 1: but not necessarily over the athletic or juiced up or
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  Speaker 1: you know, man, this big strong guy or guys were
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  Speaker 1: good link guys, are good athletics, guys that are good
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  Speaker 1: with man coverage, so on and so forth. They kind
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  Speaker 1: of had this mold and that mold and that archetype
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  Speaker 1: has been guys that are responsible, guys that will be
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  Speaker 1: there in their spot when they need to be in
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  Speaker 1: their spot and be where the coaching staff expects and
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  Speaker 1: be where the rest of the defense and their teammates
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  Speaker 1: expect them to be. Now, the one time they kind
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  Speaker 1: of deviated from that was Kyrie Reeling. Instead of going
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  Speaker 1: for the scheme fit, instead up going with the archetype fit.
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  Speaker 1: They went for more of the traits and more of
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  Speaker 1: the tools. They went for the better athlete. They went
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  Speaker 1: for the speed, the size, the length, the athleticism. That's
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  Speaker 1: what they went for, and it didn't work out unfortunately
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  Speaker 1: for them. I still think they need to go in
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  Speaker 1: that vein. I just think they can't swing so far
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  Speaker 1: to that side and into the traits and into the tools.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: I said it when they drafted him. I maintained it
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: the whole time. I didn't like the fit for Elam
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: when the Bills drafted him. I just with how much
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: man he played and the type of man coverage he played,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: you know, not having a legal contact as a penalty.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: In college. He was able to just mug receivers left
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: and right, grab, punch, hold anything and everything until that
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: ball was in the air, and when you do that
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: with his size and length and athleticism and speed, it
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: created a huge advantage for him. I didn't think that
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: would play in the NFL. But again, he had a
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: good head on his shoulders. He was a smart kid.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: He is a smart kid. He had the and the
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Bills have gotten so much blood out of other corners
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: and nose stones. I was like, Okay, you know, if
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: there is upside here, let's see what you get. Obviously,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: that never came to fruition, and Kyrie even was traded
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: to the Cowboys this offseason a couple weeks ago. I
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: still do think you need to move in that regard.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: I think you need to go towards someone who gives
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: you a little more twitch, gives you a little more juice,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: gives you a little more athleticism. When you start to
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: play these better teams in the playoffs, you are you're
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: gonna eventually come across somebody that has size and speed
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: and athleticism at the wide receiver position. I mean, even
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: if we look at what the Eagles had last year,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: like could the Bills fight fire with fire and find
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: somebody to match up against a J. Brown and DeVonta Smith.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: You've I mean, Cincinnati's O line is an issue. But
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: with the Bengals, you know, do you have somebody who
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: can combat Jamar Chase and T Higgins or even with
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: the Ravens, do you have somebody who can run with
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Z eight flowers and stick with him? Gives all these
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: small little examples, but I say all that to say,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: give me more athleticism in the secondary, which is a
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: bit of an archetype shift then years past. And aside
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: from that, they need someone who can play press or
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: who has a quick trigger, who can restrict airspace and
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: squeeze passing windows. Again, all of it it comes down
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: to squeezing those windows and making things tighter. And you
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: can do it right from the line of scrimmage and
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: right from the from the snap, or you can do
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: it a little bit after again by sitting and having
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: that ability to come forward to close down drive on routes,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: being good at the break, not allowing guys to separate
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: in the stem or separating on the brake. You've got
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: You've got really the three phases of a route. You
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: have the release where they're coming off the line of scrimmage.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: You have the stem which is how they kind of
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: build their route. And then you have the brake. You
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: know the cut, You know where are they move and
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: what are they doing, how are they changing that stem,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: so you have the opportunity to squeeze the passing window
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: and restrict that receiver space and the offensive airspace and
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: all three of those spots. So you can do it
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: at the release, you can do it in the stem,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: and you can do it on the break, and you
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: can do it with a multitude ways. You can do
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: it by being impressed. You can do it by being
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: impressed and jamming on the snap. You can do it
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: by being in press but just kind of mirroring and
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: having good feet and being a good athlete. Or you
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: could do it by being in off, maybe stepping up
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: a little bit and then squeezing things on the break
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: as opposed to squeezing it in the stem or squeezing
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: it on the release. All of those things take varied techniques,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: varied skill sets, varied traits, but a common theme amongst
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of them would be good feet, good athleticism,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: some sort of short area burst or quickness, the ability
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: to not let guys get into your body. It comes
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: down to how guys are built in terms of their
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: frame physically and also in terms of how they play
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the game, what tools and traits they have, but also
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the coverages that they come from. Again, not the you know,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: drum on this too much. Trey Amos ticks a heavy
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: majority of not all of these boxes for the Buffalo Bills.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: His ability to play press, his length plus feet and
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the combination of those two things allowing him to stay
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: in phase and man coverage, the zone coverage capabilities, how
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: he can fall off and collect with regularity, his match
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: coverage capabilities, the tackling, the physicality what he offers. He
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: takes so many of these boxes. I think Johday Barron
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: ticks a lot of boxes from the physicality perspective as well,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: but a different type. I don't think he's the same
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: kind of press corner that Amos is, but his quick trigger,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: the short area burst hit. He's got great peripheral visions,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: so he can he can have that kind of hinge
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: in that turn where he's looking at the quarterback, but
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: as soon as the receiver breaks in on a slant
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: orn in and he sees that flash of color, he
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: can drive on it and close and break that pass up,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: but he's also got the ability to do that and
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: still read the QB and see, oh he's actually still
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: hitting his drop or that's just a pump. Let me
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: slam on the brakes because now it's actually a slant
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: and go. So the technique plus his vision in processing
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: and athleticism allow him to tighten passing windows and restrict
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: and also what he is as a forced player, as
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a tackler, as a guy in the run fit, he
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: takes so many boxes as well. I really do look
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: for one, you know. I wanted to use those two
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: guys in juxtaposition with one another because I think they're
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: different players, but I both think they can help the
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Bills defense at corner in their move towards kind of
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: tweaking the archetype a little bit, just in different ways,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and it really helped the defense kind of evolves schematically
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: and again have more athleticism or juice on the back end,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: but more airspace constriction and be able to tighten pass
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: the windows. I think at the end of the day,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I think Baron's going to be gone. I think the
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: corners you're really looking at for the Bills in this
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: draft are guys with some length and guys who can
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: play press, and there's a variety of them. You've got again,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: You've got Trey Amos, You've got Darian Porter from Iowa State.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: You've got as A Ray or as a Ray Thomas
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: from Florida State. Just kind of throwing out some names
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, day one and day two guys,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: and I do think they go corner on day one
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: or day two. I haven't finished Benjamin Morris yet, so
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: if anyone wants to ask me about him, I have
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: not taken peak and him yet. You've got Chavon Revel
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: or chevon Revel. I've heard multiple ways of his name
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: being pronounced to him and him responding, so I don't
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: even know what the correct pronunciation is at this point.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I have some questions on Revel just I personally don't
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: gravitate towards guys that are high cut, meaning guys that
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: have like long legs and kind of shorter torsos, and
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I think that can lead to issues with change of direction,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: change of direction, hip sync fluidity, And I do have
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: some questions with Revel Revel. I'm gonna say his name
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: like seventy five different ways throughout this episode throughout this
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: draft cycle. But I like him as a press corner.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I do think he has to be more of a
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: true press corner because he is higher cut and longer legs.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I think change of direction is going to be an issue,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: So I don't think he necessarily is that guy that's
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: gonna be able to mirror someone and kind of soft
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: shoe press him and just be able to stay in
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: their kitchen with footwork and hip fluidity and sink and
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: all that. I think he needs to use his length,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: use his size, use his frame, and get on guys early.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: When he does have a true press, he tends to
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: go with the two hand jam, which I don't love
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: because you can essentially get kind of locked in your hips,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: like when you go forward like that, you're locking your
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: hips when you go with that two hand jam or
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: that two hand true press. And if you miss a
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: guy and you don't get those hands, now your transition
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: getting a field and turning to run with that guy
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: is a little suspect. And that's even more so for
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: a guy who I think has some change of direction
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: or some you know, hip fluidity type of pieces. And
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I also think this again, because he's high cut, he
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: plays a little tight I'm sorry tight whit actually get
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: tight in the hips, but a little upright as a player,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: you know, there's not a lot of dip ben sync
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: to his game. And then because again he is that
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: higher cut, I think on brakes he can allow some
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: separation and things. But I think he's another name to consider.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I think anybody, anybody who has length and can play
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: press in this draft class should be a name that
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the Bills look towards, and they've met with a lot
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: of these guys. Again, my ideal candidate right now is
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Trey Amos at pick thirty. I've been in this camp
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: since before the Combine and then he ran a four
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: to four three and that kind of solidified things for me.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: But that's kind of where I'm at again, just because
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I think I would love John A. Baron at thirty,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I really don't think he's gonna be there, so I'm
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: kind of but I wanted to use him and Amos
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: use him in these other corners as a juxtaposition of
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: what you can have. But I think the Bills will
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: end up with a longer press type of corner in
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: this draft, and I think a lot of the ones
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: that are available fit what you're trying to do. From
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: a scheme standpoint, this is I don't think the guys
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: that I named aren't another Kayu relum situation where it's like, well, yeah,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: but are they gonna be able to adjust to the scheme,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: can they learn it? So on and so forth. I
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: think they're more kind of natural fits, especially if you're
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: kind of simplifying or tweaking a little bit with what
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the defense does, which should be some more match coverage,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: some more man coverage either way, more and principles baked
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: into the zone coverage. And even if it was just
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: regular zone, these corners all can function in his zone
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: capacity as well. So again Bill's traditional archetype at corner
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: is less to do with athleticism, less to do with size,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: less to do with speed, and it's traditionally been more
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: of responsibility, playing from the neck up, sound, smart, reliable, responsible.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I think they need to tweak that a little bit.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: And if you can get guys that are still that
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: but also be good athletes and then fit the scheme, hooray.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: And I think a lot of these guys that I mentioned,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: especially for Amos, take that box. But I think they
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: need to tweak that archetype a little bit and add
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: in a little more athleticism, a little more juice, a
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: little more foot speed, a little more flexibility. Change that
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: position a little bit less technically any just less technically sound,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: less responsible, reliable, little more little more twitch, a little
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: more juice, a little more physical traits, while not losing
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: the reponsibility and the assignment sound and scheme fit nature
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: all of it. Again, I think there's a happy medium
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: to kind of really juxtapose it and move on to
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: some of your comments before we go to the next
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: position grouping. I don't no disrespect to anyone. I don't
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: want Dane Jackson, but I don't want kyer Elam. Okay,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: that's the opposite ends of the spectrum. There's plenty of
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: space all in here for them to tweak that a
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: little bit. Like day Jackson is ninety ten towards one way,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I think kyer Elam was ninety ten towards the other.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: We don't need that. You can go seventy thirty either way.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: You could go sixty forty. It could be fifty five
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: to forty five. They need some some balance of that. Again,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I don't want to swing just for the traits and
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: just for the sexiness like they did with Kyer, and
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I don't want to just hit a bunch of singles
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: and have to steal bases if that guy gets on base.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: It's kind of the way I'm looking at it. For corner.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Let's go to some of the questions for you folks.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Ron says, the problem with this scheme back to earlier
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: as we get abused in the playoffs because their DB's
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: can't match up. Again, that's what it's hard to It's
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: hard to be technically sound over and over and over
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: and over again. That's what I'm saying. That you need.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: You need to be able to fight fire with fire
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: a little bit, you know. And Ron says, yeah, with
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: the dbs we've had, Yeah, you have to be able
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: to fight fire with fire a little bit. You you
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: don't have to be a burner or the most physically
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: imposing guy to stick with like aj Brown or stick
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: with Jamar Chase. You can do it with technique, but
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: your technique that you have so such little margin for
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: error because those guys have physical dominant traits or athletic
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: athletically dominant traits that if you're not on point with
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: your footwork or your timing, or your turn or your pedal.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: You're you're in a bad way, and I think that's
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: where the Bills have lived for a lot of that time.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: This is hilarious and how accurate is this? Guy says?
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I realized Cover one glazes the team. First off, glazes,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: grow up the team because they could get sued for
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: using all that footage if they said anything negative. That's
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: not true at all. This is such a wildly inaccurate comment.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to pull up. That's man funny. Jared says.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I say, trade up for Will Johnson or em and
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Warri if either are still on the board at seventeen
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: or nineteen. The Bengals and Bucks need picks. Maybe get
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant in the fourth round. Yeah, Kobe Bryant. Another
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant spelled differently than the Kobe Bryant from Cincinnati
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago who plays in Seattle. I
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: haven't watched Kobe Bryant yet from Kansas. I have not
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: taken a peek at him yet, but he's a name.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: As I start to finish out corner, as we go forward,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I would be all aboard for Will Johnson. I don't
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: think Emmon Warry is a scheme fit, and I'm not
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: that high personally on him as a prospect. I don't
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: think he plays to the athleticism in size that he
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: tested with and his feet are a bit clunky, kind
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: of like he has cement in issues. I think I
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: think he's more scheme specific than he is, just kind
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: of a plug and play guy with a multitude of teams.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: And I don't individually love the fifth for the Bills,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: but teach their rown also. Em and Warry finished third
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: in my Heisman in the Heisman running my first year
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: playing NCAA twenty five when we won the Natty with
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: South Carolina, So he does hold a special play in
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: my heart. Tangk Ninja says, to be fair, it's not
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: like Douglas was doing us any favors, not getting DPI
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and etc. Last year, and he didn't have the speed
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: to make up for his slips. Yeah, he It's unfortunate.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: He had a really good twenty twenty three. You know,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: as soon as he was traded over, he was playing
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: like a true CV one. Just the brakes he was
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: making on the ball, the impact, the physicality, the run
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: fits I would love to welcome him back like as
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: a CB three, and then have like a CB in
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: round one or round two to be your starter, and
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: then you're looking at a top four of Benford, rookie Corner, Douglas,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Dane Jackson. Like that gives you a high floor and
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: high ceiling combination. And I think he can really do
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: a lot for like the group as a whole in
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: terms of the mindset and the mentality you needed. But
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: yet I don't think he has the wheels right now
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: or the jews, or maybe he had some injury last
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: year that we weren't privy to. But yeah, he didn't
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: look like the same guy in twenty twenty four that
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: he did in twenty twenty three, and the Bills felt
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: it on the back end, especially with those underneath routes
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: like he he was so good at kind of sitting
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: at depth and waiting and triggering and getting interceptions and
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: breaking on the ball and driving and getting PBUs and
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: hitting guys, and we just we just didn't see that
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: with regularity from him in twenty twenty four. Ooh, Johnson's
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I don't mind moving up using our fourth through sixth
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: round picks to get there. Our first three picks first
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: and two second rounds need to get us a cb
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: DT and edge. I don't disagree. Give me a corner
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: a defensive deck on an edge in the first three
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: picks for the Bills. I move too much when I
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: do these shows. It makes my camera refocus sometimes, ndy
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: El says Darian Porter thoughts of Darien Porter corner from
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Iowa State. Let me pull up my evaluation notes. Good
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: spatial awareness is zone end zone, able to drop, able
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: to space routes accordingly in spot drop regular zone coverage.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: A press man corner susceptible to underneath routes and inbreakers,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: his feet tend to get crossed up and or stuck,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: which will leave him, you know, to get caught lunging.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: His feet and hands get out of sync more than
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: you would like. He's a willing force player and a
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: willing tackler, willing to come up and play the run,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: but his lankiness and frame makes him a bit movable
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: and susceptible to broken tackles. Good eyes, good processing, some
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: of that. I wouldn't be opposed to the Bills targeting
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: in round two. I have more of a kind of
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: a or like a third second to third round grade
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: on him, but without the Bills having a third, I
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be opposed. I don't love him, but I'm fine
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: with him kind of coming in and battling and going
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: from there. John Roberts says, what's your opinion on Maxwell Harriston.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I like Maxwell Harston. There is maybe some off the
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: field stuff that I think might take him off the
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Bill's board, but I'll read my evaluation because he's right
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: here too. Calm and clean feet plus recovery, speed plus athleticism,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: A willing but poor tackler angles into decisions are a
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: bit questionable and run support and especially as far as
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: a fit and forced player, but the willingness is there
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: and you will see him make some good tackles from
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: time to time. Recovery speed and feet allow him to
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: get back and phase when fool versus routes. Athletics has
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: been speed again are a plus. Good short area burst,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: able to play both the left and right side, able
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: to collect routes and zone coverage. Also good zone spatial awareness,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: able to fall off routes, able to bait quarterbacks, will
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: let wide receivers into his blind spot from time to time,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: but the recovery speed and athleticism may allow him to
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: recover even at an NFL level because that speed from
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: an on tape perspective and time perspective is very real,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: able to play cover two, cover three, straight up man,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: coverage press man. Physical smaller frame stature will limit him
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: a bit at the catch point at times and at
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: the tackle point, but overall on explosive athletic corner. Ron
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: says Amos in the first and Quincy Riley from Louisa
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: later in the draft. Yeah, I'm not Ryley's one who
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: keeps popping up for me again, He's and I will
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: be finishing all for those who don't know. April is
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: my like big. I finish my prospect evaluations for each
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: group to really get to about like ten to fifteen
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: guys deep at every position as much as I can,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: so I'm really solidifying everything going forward. This is great
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: from rj Rgi says, So what quarter will fit the
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Bills best? And when does Casey trade up in front
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: of us to grab them? I'll tell you, man, and
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: you know this, and so many people know this about me,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: with how much I love Trent McDuffie and how much
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I pounded the table for him. If the Chiefs trade
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: up and take Trey A. Moos, that might be it
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: for me. As like a football person, I'm I'm out,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: like I'm done. I'm I don't know where I would
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: go in the world, but it would it would I
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: would be in a bad way. I can't even verbalize
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: how much that would jack me up mentally and emotionally.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Sound says that we continue the same schemes, nothing will change.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: McDermot is a rocket. I don't think he's necessari rockheat.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I think he's got for again for all intents and
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: purposes on the whole bill's winning percentage, their advanced metrics,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: their just regular win loss record year over year, where
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: they go in the playoffs, they've had success. So I
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: understand him not completely revamping or revolutionizing you know, what's
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: worked for him. But I do think there are some
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: tweaks they've made some in the past. I'm interested to
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: see what they will do this year. Give them the
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: breadcrumbs we've seen drop from him, the coaching staff changes
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: and some of the things that myself and Eric have
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: been told in our film room episodes with Greg Russou
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: with Terrell Bernard, some of those interesting nuggets. Pete says,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: there's guys worth trading up for locking into. Using those
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: first three picks on three different players doesn't mean we're
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: getting impactful snaps. Look at the uncertainty with Bishop even
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: a year in very fair points. That's my biggest detractor
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: when it comes to trading up in the draft, because
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: it is such a crapshoot, like I mentioned earlier, like, oh,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: surefire thing is a surefire thing, so I prefer as
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: many swings at the plate as possible. And they've got again.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: If you sacrifice draft capital to move up, in theory,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: you're moving up for more of a surefire guy, but
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: that surefire guys still may not work out, So you're
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: sacrificing capital for something that is still unsure even though
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: it has more probability of being sure. I think that's
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: very fair. Baizon says, do you think there's any chance
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Daiquon Hardy could improve and crack the roster? Finally, he
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: did no promise in the preseason, like you mentioned, but
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: they cut him and then welcomed him back. I don't know,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Charles says, Az Thomas
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: might be the most boom bust. The traits are crazy.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: These one of the youngest cbs. There's some things to
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: light there, for sure. Pete says he'd move up for
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: a CB or defensive lineman. There's guys who can be
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: our CB two available, fifty six or sixty two. Ideally
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: stay put, but that's too prudent. Sometimes I would prefer
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: corner it round in round one, mainly because of Amos,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: because the defensive the interior defensive lineman that I think
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: will be available at where the bill's picking round two.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I like those guys better than the corners that I
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: think will be available there. But I think this is
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: a fair point. I don't hate it completely. Oh. Paison
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: says also random question, but primetray White versus Benford right now,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: who is better Prime Tray White? No disrespect to Benford.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Primetray White was lockdown, lockdown in an all pro primetray
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: White bills are electric, saying Maxwell had a really good
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Yeah, I didn't go to the Senior Bowl
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: this year. I also responded to you on Twitter when
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: you asked me some stuff about Jonash Sanker. Yeah, I
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: didn't go to the Senior Bowl this year, and I
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: paid attention to some of it, but I wasn't completely locked,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: in part because I was emotional that I wasn't there.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Noah says he wants a Gyrg Alexander type corner that
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: trash talks and his ball hawk. Yeah, it's a different
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: kind of it's a different kind of mentality with guys
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: like Gaiere. Okay, okay. Just the typical news says, one
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: day in the very distant future, if we are allowed
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: to clone human beings, it will make for great roster building.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: That's a very fair point. That's really what the bill
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: should be doing. They should be investing in clone based technology,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: so they could just clone Christian Benford and you don't
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: need to worry about CBE two. You just clone Christian Benford. Poom,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: You're good to go. This is a great comment from
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: rock Pile. Oh I'm I'm guessing I know who it
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: came from on rock Pile, and I hope something for
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the check gets it. It's the communists. So we have
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: a one hundred and forty one and two thirds chance
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: of getting a dB, Eric getting a CB and defensive
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: lineman with our first two picks. Question Mark, that's some
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: good Steiner math. Right there. I like that well done. Yeah,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: so good conversation piece on the corner aspect. And again
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: what they've gravitated towards in the past, guys like Dane Jackson,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: guys like Levi Wallace. It could be a little less
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: of that doesn't have to be full scale full till
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Kyrie Elan there is a happy medium, just kind of
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: split that difference a little bit. Ish Will says, Wow,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: how quickly they forget Trey white Man not only an
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: all probe, but had that clutch it factor always came
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: up big when you needed him. Man. He was uh yeah,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: prime tray White. The feet, the hand usage, the ability
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: to stay in phase, the zone coverage, how he could
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: process and red react, fall off bake collect man. Yeah yeah,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: prime trade White was sweet, you know what? And he
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: did uh on the trade White aspect. He had some
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: good reps for Baltimore last year. I thought he was
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: gonna get more burned down the stretches suppoially with Brandon
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Stevens struggling, but they would use him, kind of mix
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: him in every once in a while as like their
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: third CB, and do some different stuff. He had some
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: fun reps for Baltimore I'm still I'm still pulling for him.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Good dude, and was a really good player when he
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: was here. It's unfortunate with the injuries, but you know,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: we'll kind of see. All right, let's go to the
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: interior defensive line. I think this one is the most
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: not necessarily straightforward, but the straightforward from my perspective. But
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I think the most muddy when you do when you
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: when you chuck to pose what fans want versus what
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: they have traditionally done. And I like that. Just to
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Tipka who says eleven Torel Bernards and then Noahcheldon says,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: get Taron Johnson an evil clone and play him at
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: CB two. I like that. Yeah, the Bills archetype at
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: interior defensive line, I think is so important to talk
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: about with what a lot of the fan base wants
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: at interior defensive line, so much of And maybe maybe
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm seeing this wrong, and maybe it just happens
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: to be what I continue to see or hear about
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: on social and even in real life. But the idea
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: for that, you know, bigger bodied one tech, that true
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: one tech. I just don't think it's something that they're
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: necessarily going to go For the example, I kind of
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: want to use like Devandre Sweat, who I liked last
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: year coming out of Texas, and man, he had a
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: great rookie year. You know, it helps to play next
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: to Jeffrey Simmons. But that type of one tech that
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: literal bigger bodied space eater people eater on the interior,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: is not traditionally who they gravitate towards. Their one techs
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: are usually from a size perspective, somewhere between like three
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: ten to three point fifteen maybe, But it's all about
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: playing with strength. A Ron says, trade for Simmons go.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I would give up so much for Jeffrey Simmons their
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: interior defensive line. From a one tech perspective, you need
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: to have that play strength. But they don't gravitate towards
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: the size. Part of the reason they don't gravitate towards
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: the size, and this again all part of the larger conversation.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: They want guys that can affect the quarterback in addition
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: to playing the run, and if they had to pick
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: which one they would have and sacrifice the other, they'll
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: sacrifice some of the run defense stuff for somebody who
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: can run the rush the passer and if you you know,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: just some examples to kind of further that in that
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: conversation piece, right, they struggled last year with the run.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: We saw guys getting displaced on the interior, defensive tackles,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: getting blown off the ball. Whether it was Dwyane Carter,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Austin Johnson, Jordan Phillip, Quentin Jefferson didn't play a ton
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: against the run, but you saw what happened with him.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: They had eleonk who sitting on the practice squad, who
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: is an absolute tank to move, who does not get displaced,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: who can solidify your run game a little bit right,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: your run defense game a little bit, i should say,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: doesn't really offer a lot as a pass rusher, and
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: we saw him not get called up despite them playing
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: run based teams, despite guys getting blown off the ball,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: despite having questions about the spine of the defense, and
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: again displacement, guys being knocked over gaps, getting blown two, three, four,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: five yards downfield off the ball, they still kind of
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: left Ileanku chilling there. Even Charles in the comment says
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: poon Afford, poon Afford the year before poon AFFORDA is
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit different from the archetype conversation I just
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: don't get why he played. They opted to bring in
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Linval Joseph, who is more of a true plugger in
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Space Eater, but he just didn't play great because he
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: didn't have any legs left based on where he was
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: in his career. And good comment here from Ron saying,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: when you have small linebackers, you need your to tackles
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: to hold up absolutely spot on run. So Poona I
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: think is a little bit different with the archetype conversation.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I think Poona was more that they just didn't like
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: the person, not necessarily the scheme fit, because again they
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: went and they grabbed Linval Joseph, who was like Poona
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: four times I don't know a thousand with how much
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: bigger he was and even less pass rush juice than Poona.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: I just would have played Poona over a lot of
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: the other guys they were playing once Daequon went down
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: like his flashes were legit to me and I like
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: them a lot. I still don't get why they didn't play.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: And then you saw the success that he had with
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: the Chargers and he got paid by the Rams. He
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: goes to a Rams front. Now, good for him, he
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: should be able to especially with their multiplicity, it'll fit
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: his game a little bit more. Pete says, I find
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: a one tech conversation deeply upsetting. You don't have to
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: be three hundred and thirty pounds to stop the run well,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: and this is again part of that conversation. I think
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of fans want the space eater, the big
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: body because they think that's what it takes to stop
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: the run to withstand double teams, and it's not necessarily true.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Daikwon Jones is a really good example, right, Daikwon Jones
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: when he came down to the when he came to
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: the bills, he slimmed down. He shed weight to play
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: at one tech between three h seven and three hundred
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: and ten pounds, and when he was cooking, he was
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: cooking as that one tech a guy who could just
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: club dudes out of the way, throw guys out of
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: the club, inside anchor against double teams, drop the knee.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: So you don't have to be three hundred and twenty
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty five, three hundred and thirty pounds
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: to be an effective one tech. So that's first and foremost.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: You don't have to be huge to be able to
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: impact the run. The second part of that, the bigger
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: you are. In theory, certain body types and frames, the
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: larger they are do tend to help being able to
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: withstand the run. But that being said, again going back
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: to point one, you don't have to be Videvea to
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: hold up against the run if you are awesome, but
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: you don't have to be that guy. Right. Part three
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: of that is, even if you are that huge plugger,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: the bills have not gravitated towards that. On the interior.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Linvold Joseph I think is the biggest outlier of all
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: of them. He didn't really have any pass rush Juice Lapp,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: it was pure plugger aspect versus the run. I still
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: don't get he didn't have any legs left in the
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: him playing over pooing a larger conversation, but he is
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: the outlier. From a size perspective, he kind of fit
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: that bigger body like, oh, this is what we want.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: A plugger on the inside. Jordan Phillips, I know, is
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: very huge, kind of fits that from a size perspective,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: but from a play style perspective, he's a pass rusher,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: not a plugger. Not anchoring against double teams, not dropping
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: the knee that kind of guy. That is also I
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: think a very good conversation point. To go back to
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Pete's point of saying, you don't have to be three
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: hundred and thirty pounds to stop the run. Well, Jordan
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Phillips was built like the plugger a lot of fans want,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: but his play style wasn't that type of play style.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: It comes down to how you play the game. So
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think you need someone who's three twenty three,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: twenty five, three thirty as through one tech right, And
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: aside from that, I don't think the Bills believe that's
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: what they want at one tech. They want someone who
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: can if you can anchor against the run, cool, if
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: you can split double teams, cool, but you need to
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: be able to have an impact as a pass rusher.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: The two prototypical examples, I think that fit what the
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Bills want at a one tech or defensive tackle in
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: this draft early I'll say Derek Harmon from Oregon and
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Darius Alexander from Toledo. The pass rush juice, the size
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: the frame. Guys that still have enough to penetrate in
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: one gap and get upfield and rush the quarterback, but
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: can also maintain responsibility against the run. Can anchor a
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: double team, can play with some core strength, can drop
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the knee, can gum up the works. Cannot get displaced
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: or I should say limit how much they get displaced
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: versus the run. That's what the Bills want on their
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: interior in general, guys that can just limit displacement but
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: also impact the quarterback. Another example of this. You know,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: not only did Daiquon shd wait when he came to Buffalo,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: but you take Austin Johnson, who was a pure one
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: tech for the most part with the Giants a couple
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: of seasons ago, plays in a similar big body mold
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: with the Chargers, comes to the Bills. He trimmed down
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: to come to the Bills, and him and Dwayne Carter
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: are kind of rotating between one tech and three tech.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: That's what they view for that type of spot. Larry
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Ogan Jobi, who they just signed as free agent, right,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I think he's built more to be a three tech.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: He's going to see some snaps at one tech because
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: they value penetration and disruption and habit creation, and if
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: that means he gets blown off the ball time to time.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: From time to time against double teams, which will happen
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: to him. They're cool living in that mold and in
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: that world. That's what they value at their archetype on
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: the interior. Now, a couple things again, I mentioned it,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: and I think someone mentioned it in the chat and
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I forgot who did, so I apologize for not bringing
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: it up and not starring it. But just with some
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: of the things that we've been told, myself and Eric
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: in the film room, speaking with to re Bernard, speaking
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: with Greg Russol, I do think there's a chance for
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: them to go for more of a run skewed one
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: tech or run skewed defensive tackle. Again, if I had
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: to put like a percentage on it, I think their
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: interior guys, especially from the rotational perspective, I think they
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: go like sixty five thirty five pass rush. I think
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: there's a chance that maybe they go sixty forty pass rush,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: maybe fifty five forty five pass rush, maybe even fifty
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: five forty five run defense. I think there's a chance,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: just with what they need defensively, what we all know
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: they need defensively, and what Bernard and Rousseau said to
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: us in the film or episodes, and if you haven't
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: seen those, go check those out, not even doing a
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: shameless plug. There's a ton of really great insight from
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: those guys and some tape that we broke down with them.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: And I say all this to say they need guys
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: on the interior that can limit displacement and not get
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: blown off the ball horizontally or downfield. That is what
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: this Bill's defense needs. They play a lot of light box,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: they play too high safety structures, they play in nickel defense,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: and their linebackers are smaller. You do not want second
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: You don't want your second level defenders in terrel Bernard,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Matt Malano and Taron Johnson having to deal with guards
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: and centers and tackles get into the second level and
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: causing problems for him. Then they're gonna they're not doing
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of stack and shed. They're gonna have to
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: dip and rip and get around, which means you have
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: to move with anticipation. You have to trigger quickly and accurately.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: But then also there's a chance you kind of get
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: bumped out of a gap a little bit, and that
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: can create more problems inside. With the issues they had
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: with yards before contact as a light box, yards after
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: contact as a light box, you need someone in on
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: the interior who has the capability to anchor and hold
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: their ground against double teams and against the run. But
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: you still need to be able to penetrate a little
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: bit for the bills. That's what they believe, and I
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: also believe that too, right, I don't think you can
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: just be you know, as all jokes aside, and people
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: mentioned him in the chat like Ted Washington. One is
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: my heart, little little Anthony me love Ted Washington and
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: love Pat Williams and what they would do and just
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: eat up space in the middle. Those guys aren't rocking
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: today because they're not really offering you anything as a
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: pass rush. Right. So now I say all that to say,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Derek Harmon fits there, right, Darius Alexander fits there. Someone
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: who I love in this draft, but I don't think
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: fits Tyleek Williams, the defensive tackle from Ohio State. And
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I say, I don't know or I don't think he fits.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: He's more of a more of a two down player.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: I think he's more athletic than he gets credit for.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: And he can push the pocket because he has some juice,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: he has some explosion, but he's not a penetrator. He's
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: not a one gapper. He's not this guy that on
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: the snap is going to have these moves and be
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: able to get forward. He's going to try and because
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: he has some lateral explosion, he might step and give
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: you a quick club or a swimmer and arm over,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: or get and get by a guy. But he's probably
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: just trying to drive linemen back into the quarterbacks lab.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I am willing to take that because I think he's
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: a plus defender against the run. His ability to diagnose
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: blocking schemes, recognize what's coming at at him, being able
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: to drop the knee against double teams. He can anchor
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: against the double. He can drop the knee against the double.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: He can club somebody and throw him to the ground.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: He can stack and shed and read a running back's
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: track and make a play in the hole. And I
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: do think he has more athleticism that he gets credit
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: for now. Within all that, Oh and see this is
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: a good one too, Charles says, Alfred Collins would also
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: seem like a traditional non fit. Alfred Collins is a
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: great example. I really, really really like Alfred Collins as
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: a run defender. Good recognition, great hand usage, textbook stack
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: and shed. He good pad level. Tyler Williams has really
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: good pad level as well, But Alfred Collins get into
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: somebody great hand placement, gets hands, gets control, is just
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: waiting for the running back to decide where to go,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: chucking dudes down to the ground, makes a play. Alfred
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Collins gives you nothing as a pass rusher. He has
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: this like spin move where he like spins in place.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: He doesn't go anywhere. He falls down a lot with it.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Like there's nothing from a pass rusher ppect for Alfred Collins.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Now there could be maybe at some point, but there's
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: nothing really to see right now. I've watched so much
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Texas tape, watching Collins and Macouba and Baron and Vernon
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Broughton and a lot of dudes on their defense. I've
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: seen so many Texas games, and I think I can
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: probably count on one hand the amount of like good
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: pass or snaps from Alfric Collins. So he's even more
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: skewed in that regard. I still, I personally still wouldn't
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: mind taking him in round two because I like the
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: idea of Daikwon and Ed and Ogan Joby and Alfred
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Collins as a rotational guy. I would prefer somebody higher
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: tier because I think Daikwon Jones is more suited for
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: a rotational role now than a true starter. But conversation
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: for another time. But yeah, Collins is even more in
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: that regard. The guys that they're looking for are again
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: being able to live in the light and the dark,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: one gap penetrate, get upfield, be able to impact the
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: quarterback and impact the run. Collins is in that mold
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: ty Leak Williams is a little more in that mold Collins.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: But he's not Harmon. He's not Alexander like those type
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: of dudes. And for those who might think like, oh,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: like Harmon's more of a three tech or Alexander's more
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: of a three tech, I think they both can play both.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: But I do think the Bills would view them as
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: a one tech based on their size and be based
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: on their previous archetype profiles and traditionally how they've operated.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: And Paizon says they were interested in Laky Fokoo. Yes
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: they were, and that's what I think is most interesting.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: He doesn't give you anything from a pass rush perspective.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: He doesn't give you any of that pass rush upside
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: the fact that they were interested in him. Again, it
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: could just be a camp body, could be in the
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: bottom tier depth chart guy to battle and eat some
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: snaps in the preseason. I do think there's a little
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: more smoke and potentially more fire to it than that.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: So it gives me hope that they could go for
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: someone who is more skewed towards run defense and not
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: just more pass rush than he is run defense. Ron says,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: if you watched Jordan Phillips, he's only twenty years old
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: and moves pretty well. I have not defensive tackle from Maryland.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: He's in my my final tier dudes to wrap up
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: interior defensive line. I've watched so many in a multitude
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: other ways. But when I have the interior defensive line conversation,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: which will be several weeks from now, I don't remember
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: which date and what I'm doing where, but yeah, I
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: will have notes and film and lots of things on
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips. He will definitely be watched for me. Where
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Todd says Harmon has a low tackle percentage, doesn't he
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know what Harmon's tackle percentage is, but my
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: biggest issue with Harmon is he's more of a disruptor
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: than he is finisher a lot of pressures. You'd like
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: to get more sacks. I think you see some of
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: the change of direction stuff. He's great at getting up field,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: but then having to break down his base how he's built.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Sometimes we'll kind of mislead him at the tackle point,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: at the sack point, I should say so. I think
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: he's more disruptor than finisher. But from how he's built,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: from a frame perspective, and skill set and play style,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: he fits what the Bills want on the interior in general,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: even again as a one tech type of guy. RJ.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Don't be this dramatic. RJ says, being all drafted two
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pound defensive tackle and put him at
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: one tech, because of course they will. That's too far,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: maybe like two point fifty five. I'm just kidding. No,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: that's too far. But I that's fair. R Jay. I
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: expect to comment from you at this point. Let me go,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I wanted to speak on this a little bit. Jared
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: says Kenneth Grant would be the only defensive tackle I
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: would take the first round. If he's gone, no problem,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: because there's plenty of talent in the second and John
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Robert says Kenneth Grant a plugger. I spoke on him
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: in a little bit last week. I just want to
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: speak on him, not because I know so many folks
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: are asking about him. I'm not. I'm not as high
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: on Kenneth Grant as others are. The easiest way I
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: can describe him is I think he's a big man
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: and an athletic guy. I think he plays more to
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: the athletic side than he does the big side. I
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: think he plays, for being listened, at what three hundred
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: and thirty pounds, he plays like he's three zero five
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: or three ten at best. He plays like he wants
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: to get a field and rush to QB, not necessarily
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: anchor handle double teams, recognizing blocking schemes, do the run
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: defense stuff that you would think he would do because
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: of his size, or you may want him to. Again,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: the flashes are there. The athleticism shows on tape. Did
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: have a great testing day at his pro day, which
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: kind of gives you some concern about the athleticism. But
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: I'm just a little down on him, especially in relative
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: comparison to others who are very high on what defensive
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: tackle two or like want him as a lock for
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: the bills at thirty, I would take him, know, I'd
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: welcome him, I wouldn't be overjoyed with it at thirty.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think he He doesn't do enough for me
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: as a run defender and also doesn't do enough for
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: me as a pass rusher. But there are some traits
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: there and you could continue to build and he could develop.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: But I think when he's doing pass, if he's not
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: winning on the snap with a quick, you know, his
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: go to move on the interior, when he wins as
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: a pass rusher, he'll get some you know, bul rush
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: and kind of drive a guy back, but it's usually
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: a side step and then some lateral explosion in a
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: quick swim or arm over back inside. If he's not
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: winning with that, he's stalling out a lot of times,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: or he's doing moves almost for the sake of doing moves.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like somebody who's playing a video game
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: and is just button mashing and just mashing buttons to
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: mash buttons. They're not doing this move to lead to
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: this move to lead to that. They're just kind of
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: trying to spam everything and hit what they can and
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: see what works. And so it gives me some cause
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: for concern. I think he's more developmental then he necessarily
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: gets then then thin finished product. I should say, again
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: a big guy and an athletic guy, but I think
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: he plays more to the athlete than he does the
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: big for a guy who's listed at three point thirty
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: and plays in that range, I think he plays more
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: like he's like he like he thinks he's three zero five.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: He plays more as a one gap, penetrating upfield type
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: of defensive tackle. Then he does a displacement limterter, and
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think he doesn't off as an upfield pass
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: rushing like one gap type of penetrating guy. So it's
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: almost like he's this weird type of tweener, which again
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: gives me some more pause. I have to finalize my
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: interior defensive line rankings. But yeah, it's I don't love
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: him as much as others do. I have some cause
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: for concern. I wouldn't be, you know, distraught if they
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: took him. But I don't think he's this slam dunk
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: home run lock, amazing pick and fit like a lot
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: of folks think. I think that he may be, but again,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: let's just be teached to run a lot of comments here.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Ron says, Tyleerk Williams would be a good get in
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: the second round. Man, if you could guarantee me right now,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: right now, if you could tell me the Bills could
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: get Trey Amos at thirty and tai Leek Williams at
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: fifty six or sixty two or whatever it is, I
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: would sign him for that. Every single day of the week.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Every single day of the week, I would sign him
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: for that. I would take it immediately. I really like
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Tyler Williams. Again, I think he offers more from an
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: athlete perspective. Again, he's not some plus athlete. He's not
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: a plus pass rusher, but he has enough juice and
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: power to impact the pocket and that's enough for me
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: considering what he does against the run, especially for this defense.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: John Roberts says, how is Dean Walker, defensive tackle from Kentucky.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: I didn't like his tape. The movement is really poor,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: just with how he's built. But I do know that
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: he had a back injury last year and maybe that
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: impacted him a bit. So I have to go back
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: and watch him twenty twenty three tape and see maybe
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: if there was a significant difference there. As of right now,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: I'm low on him, and I also don't see him
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: being a scheme fit for the Bills. Pete says, I
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: don't see it, but I would go to a dark
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: place if Harmon gets the thirty and we don't take him. Yeah,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: to your point, I don't see Harmon lasting till thirty.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think Harmon or Barren last till thirty from
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: a defensive tackle or cornerback perspective, respectively.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: What else, what else?
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: What else? Sal says, watched the replay of the Ravens playoffs.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: They ran the ball down our throat the whole third quarter.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: That's a good point. I think it's an aspect that
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: gets lost in these Bills playoffs. Like that second half,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Baltimore ran the ball down the Bill's throat with regularity,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: and when push came to shove at the end, Lamar
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Jackson marched them down the field and was ready to
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: tie the game up if not for that drop. I mean,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: even with that game in general, not to get too
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: far off track, I know the Bills forced some of
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: those turnovers right the the you know the pressure that
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: heated up Lamar that made him throw that deep ball
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: that Taylor ratt picked off even somewhat of what DeMar
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Hamlin did to Lamar, but a lot of the rape
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: the Ravens really kind of shot themselves in their own foot.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: The Mark Andrews fumble several of the drops even than
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Lamar fumble to a degree. But aside from the turnovers,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: and you can't do this because there was three of them,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: But aside from those turnovers where Baltimore kind of shot
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: themselves on the foot of bit, they moved the ball
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: up and down the field at will on the bills
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: and then again when push came to shove in the
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: second half, it was just we're just gonna run the
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: ball down your throat and up the gut and there's
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: nothing you can do about it. And they couldn't do
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: anything about it, and I think that's very worrisome. Again,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: the yards before contact speak to a degree from a
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: light box perspective. From the defense in general, I think
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: I think they showed up good and shorter down in
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: distances and big times when it matter, like third and
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: one or fourth and short of that kind of stuff.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: But that was because they were able to gap out.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: They would have to commit numbers to the box and
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: be able to win with numbers. They weren't winning individually.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: They weren't winning with guys who were stealing gaps or
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: beating guys individually against the run. Aside from like Russeau
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: and Epanessa, especially on the interior, especially from a rotational perspective,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: they were just getting driven off the ball left and right.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: All right, Carlos has lots of shifts to rushing from
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: offenses last year. Does that impact the Bills going for
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: someone that's not the additional type, they don't really have
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: the horses to stop teams like the Ravens. That's an
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: A plus Q question, Charles. My answer is for you
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: saying does that impact the Bills going for someone that's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: not the traditional type, My answer is I hope. So.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: My second answer is we'll see. My third answer is
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: I really hope. So to your point, the run game
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: is coming back in vogue. It's not just a couple
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: teams that lean into it here and there. It's gonna matter,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: and gap scheme runs in particular matter. So you need guys.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: It's not just about being athletic enough to not get
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: reached or not have an offensive lineman cross your face.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: And it's like Okay, you can shoot this gap or
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: you can cut this off from the backside. Now it's
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: can you hold your ground against a guy down blocking you?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Can you hold yourself against Can you hold your ground
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: against a double team? Can you come up? Can you
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: come up field and recognize that a guard just left
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: your gap and you not thinking, oh, I'm free, because
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: it's actually trap and now you're gonna get slammed in
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: your ear by the guard coming from the other side.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Or it's whaym and you came up field and there's
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: a tight end or a full back or an h
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: back who's gonna spear you in the other ear and
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: drive you out of the hole like there is. There
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: needs to be more emphasis on run defense, especially with
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: the Bills and how they're built defensively, and again all
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: of it ties into limiting what the pass game can do.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: You want numbers in coverage, so you want to be
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: able to defend the run for light box. That from
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: a light box, that is the holy grail for a defense.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: If you can defend the run with a light box
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: and have two high safety structures, you can have numbers
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: in coverage. If you can keep numbers in coverage and
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: when I say numbers like having seven guys being able
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: to drop or you know, depending on what it is,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: who has to commit for the second level. But if
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: you have numbers in coverage, if you have the numbers
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: advantage against the pass, that's a very successful winning formula.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: But you can only do that if you can stop
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: the run with less numbers. And in order to stop
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: the run with less numbers, you need guys up front
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: that can stop the run when they're outgunned. You need
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: guys who can beat a double team or a guy
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: who can steal a gap and make those plays against
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: the run. So I do hope that it impacts the
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Bills going for someone that's not traditional type. I do
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: think they need more. They need more dirt and grit
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: and say in paper and violence on the inside from
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: a run game perspective, like that's what they need. Robert
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: says it's time to move on from Daikon Jones. Anthony,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: your defensive line philosophy scares me. You have to get
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: a defensive line that stops the run. I don't disagree,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Payson says, resigned Jordan Phillips, then draft Jordan Phillips and
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: recreate this ass spider Man meme Ron says, I think
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: they can fix some of Harmon's issues and get a
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: lot out of them. I'll tell you this too. Right
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: for Harmon being a penetrator guy, and at Oliver also
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: being like a penetrator type of guy, and Ogunjoby being
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: that type of guy. Right, building your interior like that.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: It helps when you have guys on the outside who
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: can compress the pocket and clean things up. So I
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: don't know, Having an edge like Greg Russau with crazy
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: length who can clean things up a little bit. Having
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: an edge like Joey Bosa who's great at reading quarterback
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: angles and depths of their drop and being able to
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: adjust his rush angle or go through offensive tackles to
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: put them into that drop, that helps a little bit.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Having guys who can play the edge spots cerebrally, I
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: think helps a little bit. Having a guy like Michael
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Hoyt again who can stunt and dip and do all
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: these different kinds of things, it kind of balances out
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: a little and helps a bit. I do wish Harmon
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: finished more, but I will take a disruptor and he
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: does play the run waitch helps and he's also a
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: really great character guy from what I've heard from people,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: so that's a good piece as well. Luke says, do
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: you lock in an edge at pick thirty if it's
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Green from Marshall or Schamar Stewart from A and M.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched Mike Green yet. I haven't watched samar
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Stewart yet. I'm still finishing my stuff on the Texas
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: A and M boys, both him and Nick Scrton. Green
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Green for me and part of the reason I got
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: to him like later. I just think he's such an
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: outlier for what the bill's like at edge, and I'm
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: gonna talk about it in a minute. His size and
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: his play style is it is an outlier, and I'm
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: gonna juxtapose it with a guy that fits kind of
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: what they've done from an archetype perspective. Oh Ron says,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: if Stuart is there at thirty, I'm absolutely gambling on
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: the trades fair point. Ron says, there's gonna be some
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: really good dts still available in the third and even
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: fourth round. That's fair. Jared says, I won't be happy
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: if I stay up late for us to trade out
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: of the first round again. Oh Man oh Ron says,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: let's get Dayne Carter to add twenty pounds of muscle,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: maybe he won't get blown into the stands on almost
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: every running play. I don't think it's just a muscle,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: it's his play style. I just I'm gonna keep saying
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: it all offseason. I'm not out on Dwayne Carter, but
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of out on Dwayne Carter. Like I think
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: he's at right now. He should be like defensive tackle
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: four or ideally defensive tackle five like I think they
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: need right now. They need they need an interior if
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: like I said last week, they need an interior defensive
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: lineman that can either bump Daikwon Jones to a rotational
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: role with Ogunjobi or they they need another high end
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: rotational guy. So you've got ed daikuon Ogan Jobi and
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: the rotational guy, and then Dwayne Carter's vive. Like I just,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: he just got to prove something. And it has nothing
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: to do with the injury like people like to say, like, oh,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: before the risk injury, he was playing good. No he wasn't.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: He had some positive flashes against Houston. That was it. Unfortunately,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: good conversation. Um boom bum. Let's move on to the
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: next position of need edge. So that comment that I
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: just read a minute ago regarding Mike Green from Marshall
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: from a perspective or from that perspective, the Bills archetype
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: at edge. If there was one edge that could fall
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: to them at pick thirty that I think with the
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Bills would run to the podium and draft, it would
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: be mikel Williams from Georgia. The length, the strength, the
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: pocket compression, the ability to play the run, all of
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: that in a package is what the Bills want at edge,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: that is, but they have gravitated towards in the past.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Von Miller was an outlier. Javon Solomon was an outlier.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: Now what's interesting with that is those are moves in
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: the past several years, right. Does that indicate they're starting
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: to tweet things a little bit? You know, even Bosa
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: is more of a move back towards pocket compression. That's
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: been the biggest thing for them from a past rush perspective.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: They want pocket compressors. They're not completely into dip and
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: bend and athleticism and moves. They want pocket compression guys.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: They want you to use a long arm. They want
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: you to bull rush or speed to power, but it's
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: the power piece that matters. They want you to compress
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: the pocket all around a quarterback. They don't want dip
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: and bend and run the arc. They're not looking for
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: spin moves and all that creativity. They want pocket compressors.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Mikel Williams from Georgia is the archetype in this draft
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: of what they gravitate towards. Again, it's like right. Ron says,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: they're we like length at defensive end. That is absolutely right,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: And Luke says, although I love the idea of Mike Green,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: I'd absolutely take Mikel Williams as well. I'm excited to
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: see Green's tape. I've heard there's some really great stuff
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: from a pastor's perpective and like an athleticism and flash perspective.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: I've also already gives great effort against the run, so
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to see him. Why do I think he
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: has some off the field stuff in some way? Maybe
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong, maybe it's somebody else, but yeah, I'm excited
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: to watch Green's tape. But yeah, he's Luke says, I
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: absolutely take Mikel Williams as well. Mikel Williams is the
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: pro the poster boy for what the Bills want to edge. MIKEL.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Williams is another Greg Russo, that's what the Bills want
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: to edge. They want pocket compressors, boom, done and dusted.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: That's it now what I think is interesting again? Like, oh, okay,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: so Luke and Joe both he said he does what
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: does if someone wants to put into the checks? I
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: don't remember, and somebody told me and I don't remember.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: What does Mike Green have? Yeah? And Claude even says
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: Green will be off the Bills board. I thought it
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: was something early in his college career, but I don't remember.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Feel free to put it in the chat because I
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: don't remember anybody. I appreciate the detective work. In the chat,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: Claude says, just happened upon Elijah Roberts from SMU. I
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: have not watched Elijah Roberts yet. I know Russell Brown,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: who will be joining me in a couple of weeks.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: I know he likes Elijah Roberts, but he's in the
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: next next type of thing? Okay, oh, copy of that.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: Pete says we shouldn't type Green's thing, and Rock follow
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: it up with what okay? Fair enough? Then, that makes
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: me not want to watch the tape because I don't
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: want to watch that guy. But yeah, fair enough, but
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: so again from positive perspective, Mike Keil Williams. If you
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: need to wonder what the Bills archetype is at edge,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: it is mikel Williams, it is Greg Russo they want
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: pocket compressors now, again similar to the defensive tackle piece.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be the biggest guy. You don't
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: have to have all this size and length. They prefer length.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: That is something that they genuinely want. And even as
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: I go to look at something for Javon Solomon right now,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: for as small as Javon Solomon was right like smaller height,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: lower weight, six feet seven eighths inches for height, two
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: hundred and forty six pounds for weight. From a percentile standpoint,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: that height is literally this zero percentile for height his weight,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: he's in the eighth percentile. So he's a smaller dude.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: But his arm length at thirty three seven eighth inches
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: puts him in the sixty third percentile, which again isn't
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: crazy for the Ron says he has spider man arms. Yeah,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: but for a guy like you know, sixty third percentile.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: It's good length. Having thirty three and seven eighth inches
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: arms for a guy who's six feet two forty six.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: Those are long arms. That's what the bills like. They
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: like arm length and they like pocket compression. So even
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: though Solomon was an outlier from an overall size heightened
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: weight perspective, and even from a stylistic perspective, Solomon wasn't
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: really a pocket compression guy. He had some dip, he
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: had some bent, He won with moves and plan and
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: rush repertoire and move transitions. He was a bit of
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: an outlier stylistically and heighten weight wise, but he ticked
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: that big box for arm length. So they value arm length,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: they value pocket compression. Now again, like I mentioned in
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: the kind of lead into this segment, are they starting
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: to tweak that a little bit? I think that's very
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: interesting to kind of see, and I'm interested to see
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: what kind of edge they gravitate towards based off of that,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: because there's a lot there's a lot of depth at
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: defensive line in this draft, on the interior end at edge.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: But if you're ranking them based on like archetype fit
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: for the Bills, you have to put it within the
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: style and the arm length and overall the same size
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: kind of plays into it a bit as well. Right,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: But can you get somebody who has the arm length
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: and the style that fits what the bills want? Or
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: are they moving away towards that? Do they want more
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: dip or bend or edge or edge or actually yeah,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: dip or bend at the edge are they looking for?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: And I know there's some like attitude stuff with James
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: Pierce like, but what they consider would they consider somebody
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: like James Pierce if he's there, or even Donovan as
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: a rock up. He's got the arm length, but he's
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: more of a dip bend moves guy, right, beautiful ghost
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: like type of guy off the edge where he can
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: flash and dip underneath a tackle is throwing their hands
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: for a punch. He's dipping and going underneath them, flattening
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: getting to the quarterback. He's not necessarily a compression guy, right,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: isn't you know, can defend the run, but is more
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: of just a mercenary and a hunter off the edge.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: Right Now, do they look towards somebody like that, you know,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: especially early on, or is it more like, hey, we
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: want land in Jackson, Hey, we want JTT from Ohio State,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: or is it you know, hey, Jack Sawyer's got a
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: great motor and plays the run, but he's got short arms.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Do they like do what? Where do they bucket? Where
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: do they not edge? I think is really interesting because
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: I just think they they've been bit by mobile quarterbacks
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: a bit too much on the edge because they've gravitated
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: more towards pocket compression guys and guys who play the run.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: And I do think you need that, especially again with
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: the advent of similar to the interior defensive line conversation.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: At edge, you need guys who can play the run.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: You need guys who are stout, who can hone their
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: craft against the run, control their gap, maybe play some
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: gap in a half maybe two gap, actually not even
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: maybe you do need the two gap and gap and
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: a half the times if you're gonna play with those
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: light boxes, right, But that pass rush aspect I overall
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: in the room, they need more athleticism, they need more juice,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: they need more moves. Do they think that, you know,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: are Vaughn and Javon Solomon breadcrumbs that lead to something else?
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Or are like looking more towards that archetype. I will say,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: for as much as I want juice and dip and
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: athleticism and bend, if mike Kel Williams was sitting there
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: at thirty, I'll take Mikel Williams like he I don't
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: know how he played with this year with the ankle
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: injury that he had against Clemson. I said it on
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: last week's show. I thought his ankle was broken immediately
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: in that opening game against Clemson, and he played the
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: whole rest of the year. His numbers were down, his
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: effectiveness was down because he was essentially playing on one leg.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: But even with that, you're watching him just chuck dudes
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: and play with leverage and length and what he does
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: when healthy. Coming coming into this past season, in the
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four season, he was viewed as like a
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: top five lock and arguably like the best prospect in
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: this class in a multitude of ways, and then he
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: got banged up. Abdul Carter just rose like the undertaker,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: sitting up out of the casket or in the center
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: of the ring and took over everything from an edge perspective.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: But Mikel Williams is a dude. If he were to fall,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: I got no problem with the bills taking him just
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: what he offers and how he fits what they're trying
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: to do. Again, I would still like Dip and Ben
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: in athleticism, but I think he's just a good football
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: player and can and can affect the quarterback in a
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: multitude of ways from a compression standpoint, given the juice
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: they have on the inside. And then what he offers
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: as a run defender, him and groot Man just what
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: Mikel Williams and groot would offer you from a light
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: box run defense perspective. That's part of it too, Like
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: the run defense just can't get lost from me. But
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: again that's the archetype of what they want at Edge, right,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: and so that's what makes the conversation so interesting or fun.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: With a lot of the names for people is like, okay,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: like would Josiah Stewart be there? I see something in
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: the chat I have not watched. I've seen some clips
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: of David Walker, haven't watched him done the evaluation, but
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: he will get done before we do. The Edge episode
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: of the Skuy's coverage coming up in I don't know
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: how many weeks I have to look at the calendar. Okay,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: I keep forgetting everything, but Yeah, when they look towards
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: someone like a Mike Green, do they look at the
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: traits of someone like Shamar Stewart. Do they gravitate towards
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: the athleticism and the bend in the past powers of
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: Donovan az Aroku Or is it more like, no, we
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: want Landon Jackson, we want jtt Could it be princely
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: Omami Yellen? You know, is that enough, that combination of
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: athleticism and compression or is that not enough? Like all
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: these questions that I think we have to ask about
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: the edge position that are tied to the archetypes that
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: they've traditionally operated within, gravitated towards, but some little maybe
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: outliers and bread crumbs that they've had in other ways
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: that might indicate that they're moving towards someone else or
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: trying to round out the room a little bit. And then,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: of course the backdrop of all of this is do
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: you think Javon Solomon can be a player? If he is?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: Is he your athleticism and ben guy right? Then they
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: do they think they have enough? If not, do they
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: want more because they already they still think that he's
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: gonna be factored in the rotation Or is he not.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: And then you have Michael Hoyt. How are they gonna
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: use Hoyt? Are they gonna use them as a traditional
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: like four you know, four down edge or are they
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: gonna use them all over the place like the Rams did,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: which I think they should and which was very fun.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: But if they don't, he's violence and compression. It has
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: some moves off the edge. He's kind of like a
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: tweeter a little bit. It's it's interesting how they can
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: change the edge grouping and the interior defensive line in
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: just one draft class. It will be very interesting to
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: see what they can do, and even the corner room
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: as well, which is why I really wanted to talk
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: about these three positions in this episode. They can in
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: one draft class. Honestly, in the first two rounds, depending
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: on if they say they take a corner defensive, tack
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: on an edge at some combination in their first three picks,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: they really could go a long way towards significantly changing
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: how they have viewed each position philosophically, stylistically, and from
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: an archetype standpoint. Or they can stay the course. They
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: could just look for what they've looked at, you know, value, responsibility,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: and assignment sound and reliability a corner over everything else
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: times a thousand value, pocket compression at edge over everything
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: else times a thousand value, past rush and penetration on
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: the interior over everything times a thousand, or they could
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: tweak it a little bit. And I think the tweaks
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: are potentially so interesting because they do have this mo
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: at each of these positions, and there are guys in
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: this class that they could take that are still good
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: football players, but that fit that MO to a t
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: perfectly and easily. Also guys that could open them up
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: schematically and help them evolve and adapt, adapt and tweak
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: and move forward a little bit given the day and
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: age of the NFL and this nature And yeah, Ron
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: says are right here. Ron says, this draft is very
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: exciting because they can make some serious adjustments on defense.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: I hope they do, because what we've been doing in
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: the playoffs hasn't been working. And I think that's where
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: that's where it really comes down to. They've just been
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: out gunned in the playoff in a variety of ways,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: and I think that comes down to two things. I
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: think it comes down and not having the horses on defense,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: not having the athleticism and the juice on defense and
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: or you know, just schematically not having it. But I
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: think the schematic part is tied to not having the
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: horses and being outgunned at that spot. Defensively, There's only
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: so much you can do. There's only so much you
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: can do schematically when you draft guys that operate in silos.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: If you don't have versatility within players, if you don't
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: have versatility in skill set or traits or body type,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: there's only so many things you can do. You can't
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: take certain guys and line them up all over the
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: place because there you're setting them. You're setting them up
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: with failure. You can't operate and do all this fun
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: creative stuff schematically if you don't have the players that
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: can operate in those creative spaces. If you have a
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: guy who is an outside corner and is only an
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: outside corner, it can only work in zone. There's only
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: so many things you can do. If you have an
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: dresser that doesn't have good change of direction and can't
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: do anything other than just rush the quarterback, and from
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: a compression standpoint, there's only so many things you can do.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: They can do a lot to kind of and I'm
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: not even saying I don't think saying a lot is
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: a dramatic statement. What they do in this draft that
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: CB edge and interior defensive line could significantly lead to
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: a schematic I don't want to say change because it
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: technically a tweak is a change, but I think change
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: evokes more of like wow, like a change type of
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: thing to the defense. I don't think you're going to
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: get that. I still think you are going to get
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: what this defense has been from a schematic standpoint, But
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: they need more variability, They need more variety, They need
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: more multiplicity, and what the Bills could do with corner
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: edge and interior defensive line in this draft could go
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: a significantly long way towards multiple more multiplicity and variability
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: within this defense. Noah says, I want to hear Jim
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: Nance say, oh Mammy ll end in the playoffs. Mm hmmm.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: Where where Pete says, piggybacking on rons common it's not
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: CB two that we're talking about on that not downplaying
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: that need. Our D line has been the whole Yeah,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: but I think I think corner has also been an
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: issue because of the athleticism standpoint and not having the horses.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: I mean even again, some of it's been due to injury.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: Right two years ago against the Chiefs, Benford's out, Rasul
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Douglas is playing on one leg. The year before they
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: just for whatever reason, how soft they were against the Bengals,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: or the year before, everything kind of blends together for
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: me a little bit. I think it's both. I think
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: it's the while they've been built in the secondary, plus
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: the coverages that they've played, and how much the coverages
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: are tied to the body types and skill sets and
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: traits that they have in the secondary. And then also
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: I think it is the defensive line as well. I
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: think it's been both. I think there's been a disconnect,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: there's been more of a divorce between the front and
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: the back end then there has been a marriage. I
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: think it's been both. I think, you know, for as
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: much as the defensive line has been the whole, and
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: that's understandable, pass rush, run defense, all that type of stuff,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: I think there's been vulnerability in the secondary that hasn't
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: been talked about as much because defensive line is more
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: under the microscope. And even though we focus on corner
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: line in this episode, I think safety is up there too,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: Like who Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer were two seasons ago.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: Were not the Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer that helped
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: put this Bill's defense on the map. They need more
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: athleticism at safety, which is also in need, which is
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: why if Malachi Starks was there at thirty, I'm still
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: not a pope man. If Malachi Starks and Trey A.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: Most are both there at thirty, the conflict that I
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: would have in my heart and soul and mind would
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: be crazy intense. But yeah, I think it's just I
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: think it's been up front and on the back end,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: and I think they're tied to one another. But despite
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: you know, CB two being the biggest need for me,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: I do think the defensive line is, from an overall standpoint,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: been an issue, especially because you're rotating more bodies in
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: so that means you need more effectiveness from a multitude
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: of guys up front. In theory, at corner you just
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: need two corners, right, injuries obviously not coming into play.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: But then the defensive line, you need not just four starters,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: need like six impact players on your defensive line, and
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: the Bills have not had that. They haven't had anything
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: close to that in the past. Several years in any way,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: shape or form some event injuries as well. But yet
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: to your point, Oh, pizza's fair. I do put injuries
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: in the back end more than personnel, that's fair. I
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: just I've never each year, I've never felt confident, like
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: even get in that game against the Bengals, even if
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: it wasn't completely snowy and all the other like wonkiness
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: with it going into that game. Again, maybe maybe that's
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: the extreme because Chase and Higgins are an unreal combo,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: But how are you how are you covering Chasing and
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: t Higgins even if they maybe the Super Bowl against
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: Philly is another outlier, but how are you covering DeVonta
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: Smith and aj Brown and then also stopping the run
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: like against their ole line against Saquon Barkley, like that
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: type of deal. And maybe those those teams are outliers
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: more than they are regularity with their one two combo.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: And it's also weird because they've been able to kind
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: of mitigate actually you know it, but kind of put
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: this in perspective, right, like they've been able to mitigate
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle, which are a great one
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: two combo. But Miami has when the games have been close.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: Miami's run all over the Bills every single time because
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: the Bills put resources on the back end. But then
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: they get outgunned up front. But part of the reason
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: they get outgunned up front is because they have to
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: commit more resources on the back end because they don't
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: have the athleticism to stick with Wattle and Hill. Granted,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: not a lot of teams do, but it would be
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: nice to have another guy back there who has athleticism
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: or some man coverage capability, or some pressibility disruption airspace
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: constrictor restrictor however you want to put it out there. Again,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is kind of chicken
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: and egg, but I think it's fair to kind of
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: see one more than the other. But you know, I
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: kind of Joe says dt al gay Yep. Claude says,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: I want Malachi Starks versus Amos. In fact, I want
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: to leave this draft with Starks, Watts or Macuba oh Man,
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: Xavier Watts and Andrew mccoba. Fun fun, fun, fun fun stuff.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: Charles says, common denominator versus Mahomes has been pass rush
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: get the elite D line. But you could also play
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: the other card, right, if you have great secondary play,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: man up and send bodies at mahomes, get creative, blitz
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: the hell out of them, make them get the ball
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: out quickly, and try and force the lack of receiving
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: talent that they've had at times to beat your corners.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: He can kind of play both. I do again. Either way,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: I think they need to upgrade. I think they need
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: upgrades and tweaks from an archetype perspective and from a
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: talent perspective on both the D line and the corner spot,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: like what we're talking about. Luke says, give me all
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: the Texas boys, Baron mccuba and Bond. I have to finish.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: I have to. I have to get to the tape on.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: I was super high on Bond coming out of Bama
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and then he went to
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: Texas and I was like, Oh, this is gonna be sweet,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: and we just didn't get it. This is this is
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: Noah says, knowing being we will center around Hunter Wold
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: or at safety. I tell you what, I haven't watched
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: his tape in season. I watched a bunch of Wisconsin
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: because I like Hunter Wold. I don't think he has
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: the athleticism, but that's a fair comment. But he can
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: he does some fun stuff there, but maybe it's just
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: me gravitating towards certain pieces of his game. Josh says,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: being will go get his guy, and I think he
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: wants a star at defensive line, whether that's edge edge
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: or pass rushing interior defensive lineman.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: Josh also says, I do think CB two is a
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: huge need. But they could bring back Rasool for likely
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: quote unquote cheap or try to upgrade and roll the
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: dice with a sante Samuel Junior. I would take that
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: every single day of the week. But I think if
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: they get to twenty five istion round one, this might
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: get interesting. I think that's fair to your point, Josh,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: And so a couple other people that goes back here,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: like if someone like if Baron fell to like twenty
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: three twenty four, Mike kel William is there, like in
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: the early to mid twenties, do they pull the trigger?
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: Do they move up a little bit? I think that's interesting.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: Charles says, tweener used to be a negative for guys.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: Now it's almost a plus to match up with offenses. Yes,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: you don't want to have too much variability. You don't
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: want to take a guy like Isaiah Simmons from Clemson
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, was like, oh man, he
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: can be a safety and a line in an off
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: ball linebacker and like a slot apex. Oh Man, all
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: this possibility, and it was like, no, he's just not
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: fit for anything. Really. Granted, I don't think Arizona did
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: him a lot of favors. It takes the right system
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: and team to mold or hone a guy. But yes,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: I think you do need more variability. You need more
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: tweener capability. He doesn't mean like a guy who's fifty
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: to fifty, just more guys that are seventy thirty or
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: maybe some eighty twenty, not ninety five to five like
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of the Bills have been for their times.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: Jo says, Billy Bowman will be awesome once he adds
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: three to four inches to his height. He misses a
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: crazy amount of tackles, but he plays at a thousand
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: miles and plays with bad intentions. So part of me
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: loves him and part of me also dislikes him. But
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: that's fair, that's fair, that's fair, that's fair. Yeah, change
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: the corner room a little bit, change the defensive line
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: a little bit. You have the opportunity to do all
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: three of those, well two of those things what I
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: just said, but all three at these three positions corner, interior,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: defensive line, and edge, and I think their needed. Again,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: there are some guys who fit the archetype in this
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: draft that they could go with and it would be
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: understandable and could still help. But I think if they
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: buck some trends a little bit from what they've been
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: traditionally or from an archetype standpoint, as we've had this
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: conversation in this episode, I think it really could do them.
• 1:28:39
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• 1:28:41
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• 1:28:43
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• 1:28:46
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• 1:28:50
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• 1:29:02
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• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: mac and cheese. The regular mac and cheese is great.
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  Speaker 1: my ali that they do a lot of great stuff
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• 1:30:02
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• 1:30:06
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• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: what we're all about here on this show. Ron says,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: thanks at Now I'm hungry. I'm not gonna lie. I
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: didn't have I had a bigger lunch and didn't really
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: eat dinner. I'm crazy. I got crazy hungry at like
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: eight forty five and knew I didn't have time to
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: eat because the show was starting at nine. I am
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: now wild hungry, so I'm also upset at myself. Noah
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: says Kyle Williams getting a lot of hype. He'll be
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: gone before the third round. Oh that's because Jared here
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: said wide receiver. Maybe check out Jalen Royals or Kylon Williams.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: Kyle Williams in a round three or four, but bond
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: would be okay. Yeah, I've I've dabbled a bit with
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: Jalen Royals out of Utah State and Kyle Williams from
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: Washington State. Kyle Williams is a really good release package.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: Royals does some fun things with his size and the
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: inside outside versatility, the yards after the catch, some athleticism,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: some size. Again, wide receiver is gonna be like probably
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: the last as position group I look at, just because
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: I don't see the Bills going for anybody until day three.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: Now that I say that, they'll probably take a wide
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: receiver at thirty and I'll jettison myself to the sun
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: out of frustration. Well maybe not depending on who it is,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: but yet wide receivers coming towards the end I always do.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: I look at position groups in the draft class as
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: a whole from not just from a Bill's lens, but
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: just football and scheme and structure and evaluation. But I
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: think the way I look at it through a Bill's
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: lens is by starting with the biggest positions of need
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: for the Bills. So but heavy majority of my work
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: right now has come through corner, interior, defensive line, edge safety,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: and that's been the heavy majority of those four and
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: then I'll finish everything up as we go forward. Here,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: Ron says, who were some days if there were some
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: wide receivers who can take the top off the defense
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: on Day three, Ron, I would love to answer that question.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: I have not done enough legwork on receiver to answer
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: your question. At this point, my initial thought coming into
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: the draft would have been Jaalen Noel from Iowa State,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: but he's more of a slot. And yeah, Thornton from
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: Tennessee who just put those are burners guys that I
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: watch in season that could take the top off from
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: a from a broadcast perspective. But I gotta dig in
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: and watch the tape and I'm just not there yet.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: Joe said, I said they were gonna take Jack Sawyer
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: on my show, So it looks like the day two
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: picks are Sawyer and Higgins oof Man. Sawyer's arms are
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: so short. He ticks the box from like a mentality
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: and playstyle perspective, but the arms are so short. But
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. Noah says, do you like Sheppard from
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: Colorado in season? Yeah, he's got some real juice. There
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: were some fun dudes on Colorado aside from just like
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: Travis Hunter, and Shephard was one of them. Yeah, some
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: real good stop startability, short area burst quickness, some long
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: speed as well. How we can factor in just in
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: the short game and some bubbles and screen game and
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of different things. Yeah, I haven't watched them
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: on tape yet. Again because I'm I haven't gotten the
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: receiver yet, but from a broadcast, like if he was
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: a guy noted in season him and oh the guy
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: on defense number seven whose name I always always forget.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: He was a dB but kind of played off ball
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: and did a bunch of fun stuff for them too.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: I'll have to look into it and come back on
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: the next episode. I'm mad at myself, but Ron says,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: if we take storyer on day two, I'll be pissed.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: He's going to struggle with his non existent length. That's buddy.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: Pete says it was way This is spot on from Pete.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: He says it was way easier to be into scouting
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: every position when the Bills needed everything and the offseason
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: started in December. Yeah, with the Bills go. Every week
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: the Bills go further into the playoffs is another week
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: that I am behind on off season prep, especially from
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: a like a college standpoint and prospect standpoint. A lot
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: of my work comes because I watch so much college
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: football in season, but broadcast is a lie. So I
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: build my framework out in season because I watched so
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: much college football, and then I get to the tape
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: as I can. But yeahs as the bills go further
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: every year, it gets worse and worse and harder and harder.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: But it's a good problem to have thrown up the banner.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: This sy iss tootles, folks. So we're going to start
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: to wind down and say goodbye on this episode. If
• 1:34:08
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