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MINI SCROLL: KATSEYE x Harry Daniels drama, Bee Better vs. Ashtin Earle, Billie Eilish meat eater backlash + more · Mini Scroll

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  Coming up today on Mini Scroll, Harry Daniels and Cat's Eye are
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  feuding and somehow Tricia Paytas is involved.
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  A male Australian athlete is going viral for saying he quote
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  UN quote got chicked. Be better versus the Earl girls
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  again and Billie Eilish's hot take about meat eaters.
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  here and there on the pod, but Shep actually came to my
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  in Sydney. And anyways, it was my birthday
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  Like it's actually the weirdest story of all time, but it's
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  super fun. So that's my fun little story
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  about partying with Chef. All right, let's get into the
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  stories for today. The first story that I have for
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  you guys today. I don't know what's going on.
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  This collection of people makes no sense to me, but here we go.
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  So Harry Daniels and Cat's Eye have seemingly had a falling out
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  and Tricia Paytas was somehow involved.
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  Harry Daniels. He's a singer and he's a TikTok
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  star. He got really famous around like
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  2022 for his series where he essentially ambushes singers on
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  the street at red carpets or backstage.
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  You guys know it. Like he sings really loudly and
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  really poorly at the singers and then he captures their reaction.
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  And of course now because he's famous, a lot of times they'll
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  recognize him or sometimes he's doing partnerships to promote
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  their tour or their album or whatever.
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  Like it's staged now. But that is like how he started
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  out. So we all know that Mana from
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  Cat's Eye has been on hiatus. I've covered this twice already
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  on Mini, but the gist of it is that Mana has taken this like
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  mental health hiatus, or at least that's how it's been
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  framed to us. And she has kind of hinted that
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  there's, like, more to this story than what we know.
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  And that's been made publicly available.
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  But the way that it's been framed to us is that it's about
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  the general pressures of being a pop star.
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  So last week, Trisha Paytas was on her podcast Just Trish, and
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  she was chatting with her producer Oscar.
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  And they were saying that Harry Daniels had shared quote off the
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  record T about Mana with Oscar saying that it had been plaguing
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  him and that he was relieved to finally know what happened.
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  And that's because Harry Daniels is seemingly friends with
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  several of the group members. A couple days later, they
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  clarified that it seems like Harry might not fully know all
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  the details, but Tricia implied that he framed it like Mana was
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  out, like fully out, not just on hiatus.
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  And they joked that the group should release a statement
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  before Harry does. Tricia in this says he's he's as
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  in Harry. OK, so he's telling everyone
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  Tana's like, he told me we were in a corner at a birthday party.
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  I mean, honestly, I'm kind of confused because I don't really
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  know everybody involved. And I'm kind of like, I don't
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  really know what's happening. I'm trying to keep up.
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  I'm kind of like, I don't really know what's going on.
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  But yeah, he told Tana at like Justin's party in the corner and
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  she's like, we literally talked 2 minutes and just told me the
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  whole tea. So yes, Tricia and Oscar are
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  basically saying saying that Harry is outing his friend's
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  business to like anyone who will listen essentially.
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  Then on April 26th, Harry addressed the whole situation on
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  his own podcast and he had Oscar and Trisha on the podcast and he
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  mentioned a falling out with friends and confirmed he saw
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  MENA at Coachella saying she was sad she couldn't or didn't
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  perform with the group, though he admitted he didn't ask her
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  many questions. And then days later, Cat Eye
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  members Laura and Megan unfollowed Harry on Instagram
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  and he unfollowed them back. He then briefly posted and
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  deleted this like photo and video dump with Megan captioned
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  Let's work it out on the remix. And this is where people got
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  really mad because not only did he tag her main account in this,
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  but he also tagged her finsta. So he like outed her finsta.
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  And I think we all know by now most celebrities probably have
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  finsta accounts so that they can creep without hopefully ever
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  being exposed. So he edited the caption, took
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  out her finsta and then he ended up deleting the post all
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  together. But it is on Twitter so I will
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  put it on the screen. But if you guys you know don't
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  watch and you want to see it, you can find it on Twitter.
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  OK so the main theory behind why he would post this dumb in the
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  1st place and also tag her Finn stuff was to prove to Cat's Eye
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  fans who were like coming for him and calling him a liar and
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  saying that he's doing all of this for clout and stuff that he
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  actually is close with them and that he would know the T
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  presumably. But regardless, this has drummed
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  up so much drama in the fandom. So since Manon's hiatus, the
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  other members have apparently received a lot of backlash and
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  hate from the fandom because of some of the presumed reasons for
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  her departure. With one of the main reasons
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  being that Mana is the only black member of the group and so
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  she was possibly mistreated by the label or the group members
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  themselves. So now with the Harry situation,
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  the fandom is seemingly coming for the members even harder
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  because a lot of people feel like this proves that Laura and
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  Megan and possibly others were disrespecting her.
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  Like disrespecting Mana by talking behind her back and like
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  spreading this gossip. I actually think Harry should be
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  the one getting the heat for this.
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  I read this comment on Reddit. I'm going to read it to you
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  because I agree with it. But the gist of it is like, I
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  don't think it's crazy that these women would be sharing
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  with people who they are close with, like what's going on in
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  their professional life. So somebody wrote, even if Megan
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  or Laura opened up to someone about Manoj hiatus, that's
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  within their right to do so. Everybody has been hating on all
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  of the girls since Manoj went on hiatus.
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  It affects them because it affects the group as a whole.
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  You are allowed to offhandedly mention a situation with your
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  job to a friend. And at the end of the day, like,
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  we still don't really know what happened.
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  So the idea that they were like, gossiping behind her back or
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  being even more disrespectful, Like we don't know the context
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  in which this information was shared.
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  We don't even know the context really in which she left the
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  group or like, is on hiatus from the group.
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  So there's just a lot of, like, presumptions going on.
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  And the reason being that the label and their management have
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  created this kind of like a chaotic storm around this
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  situation because they refuse to properly address what's
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  happening. And so everybody's minds are
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  going to like the worst possible scenario.
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  And therefore that's actually putting the other group members
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  at risk. They're getting so much hate.
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  Everybody's assuming the worst of them.
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  It's allowing like everybody's imaginations to run wild.
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  And we don't even know what's true or what's not.
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  OK. The next story that I have for
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  you guys today is a male Australian athlete is going
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  viral for a derogatory term that he used on his podcast.
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  You guys, I don't know what's going on in astrology right now,
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  but the fact that I'm here with another sports related story
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  this week, this one is less chronically online than Shaq
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  versus Coach Jackie. However, it is going super viral
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  on like the women's sports side of TikTok.
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  And since now I am one of the top reporters on that beat, it
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  is my duty to cover it. OK, so Australian middle
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  distance runner Ryan Gregson has come under fire online after
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  using a controversial term during a recent podcast
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  appearance. On an episode of the For the
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  Kudos podcast, he used the phrase getting chicked, which is
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  a slang expression referring to a man being beaten by a female
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  competitor while talking about a race.
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  That he did. Let me play the clip.
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  Liam had a girl behind him like for the 1st 5K.
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  Now I just said like, mate, that would be such a weird experience
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  that you're you're on track. You're on track for PB.
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  You know you going well, but there's a girl right next to you
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  at halfway. Like you're just reevaluating
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  everything. You're like, I'm on for a trivia
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  day today, but am I going to get chinked?
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  So in this he is referring to world class Kenyan runner Agnes
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  Netich. But even if he wasn't referring
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  to a world class runner, like this situation in general has
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  sparked so much criticism from listeners and also fellow
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  athletes who found that the language was derogatory,
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  outdated, sexist, and it reflects kind of broader issues
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  around gender attitudes in athletics.
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  Now he has responded to the backlash.
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  He issued an apology on a follow up podcast episode, saying that
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  he regretted his choice of words and that they did not reflect
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  his true views. And he also noted that his wife,
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  Genevieve Gregson, is an elite runner herself.
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  And he described the term as offensive and inappropriate.
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  I mean, it wasn't just the term. It was like the context of what
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  he said that he was like questioning his entire life when
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  he saw that a woman was coming up beside him.
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  You know what this reminds me of what you would think that an
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  elite athlete would think differently than this, like that
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  they would have the understanding of how athletics
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  work. But it reminds me of that.
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  What was it like a survey or like a study that they did where
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  they surveyed men all around the world and there was some insane
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  percentage of men who believed, like, truly, like regular men
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  who were not tennis players. OK, Who truly believed in their
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  heart of hearts that they would be able to beat the Williams
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  sisters at a game of tennis? That is what this is reminding
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  me of. And like I said, he should know
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  better because as an actual professional, like elite
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  athlete, he should understand the mechanics of athletics and
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  how this actually works. This is why we love TikTok.
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  We love when stupid things that men say go viral and then they
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  get embarrassed and they have to apologize.
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  Like that is the benefit of public pressure.
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  OK, the last two stories that I have are kind of quick, but the
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  first one is that Be Better, AKA Marcos.
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  He's back feuding kind of with the Earl sisters.
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  So as we know, he posted this like investigative video 2 days
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  ago, 2 days ago, two weeks ago where he claimed to know the
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  reason behind the Alex Earl versus Alex Cooper feud.
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  And the Earl sisters were in the comments basically saying that
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  he was wrong. So now he's come back with this
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  new video saying, OK, if I was so wrong, why haven't you
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  corrected me yet? I've given you plenty of
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  chances. And he shows all these DMS and
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  texts that he's allegedly sent to them being like, let's clear
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  it up. Let's talk about it.
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  Now in this video when he's sharing all of that, he refers
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  to Ashton, who is Alex Earl's younger sister and she's an
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  influencer herself as the less interesting sister.
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  And now Ashton has made a video joking about how she is the less
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  interesting sister, and this has kind of backfired on her.
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  People are now talking about how, like, OK, if you're
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  responding to all of his claims, like, you can, you guys keep
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  responding to these claims. Like, you're clearly bothered.
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  Why can't you just come out and say, what's been going on?
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  What is he wrong about? What's incorrect?
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  Like, what's the T on Alex Cooper?
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  Like, what is going on here? Because it's kind of giving
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  Streisand a fact. Either completely ignore it or
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  give us everything. I know that we all believe that
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  they're probably saving it for the Netflix show, but people are
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  like, they're pretending to be so unbothered, but they're
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  clearly so bothered. That is what a lot of people
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  feel. OK.
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  And the last right that I have you guys today is Billie Eilish
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  is under fire after criticizing those who say they love animals
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  but consume meat. So she was doing a video
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  interview for Elle and they asked her for like a hot take,
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  like an opinion that she would go down defending.
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  What's 1 hill you die on? Y'all not going to like me for
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  this one? Eating meat is inherently wrong.
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  And then the other thing is 2 things cannot coincide.
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  I love animals, I love all animals so much and I eat meat.
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  You just, they're just, you can't do both.
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  Sorry. You can eat meat, go for it.
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  You can love animals, but you can't do both.
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  This has made the Internet so mad.
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  You guys, everybody's like, Oh my God, vegans, vegetarians,
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  like, they're so annoying. I mean, I eat meat, OK?
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  I eat meat. She didn't come out here with
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  that opinion unprovoked, you know, Like she was specifically
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  asked for a hot take, an opinion that she will go down defending.
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  That is the type of opinion that you give with a question like
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  that. You know you don't have to agree
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  with it, but she can have that opinion.
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  And I was a vegetarian for like 6 years.
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  I feel like that's the most millennial girl thing ever.
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  Like we all watched 1 documentary when we were like 14
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  and got so traumatized and we're like, I need to be a vegan or I
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  need to be a vegetarian. And we were also very influenced
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  by freely. Do you guys want to deep dive on
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  Freely? I know there's a couple out
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  there, like a couple, you know, podcasts or video essays out
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  there about like Freely. The banana girl obviously is who
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  I'm referring to. But if you guys want 1, I feel
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  like that could be a very interesting walk down memory
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  lane of like the YouTube vegan community and like what that was
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  like for like millennial women. ANYWAYS, obviously all of that
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  together, I feel like it is like a core experience where so many
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  of us went vegan or vegetarian for like a period of time.
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  I was vegetarian for six years, but I had to start eating meat
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  again because my hair didn't grow, my nails had cracks all
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  down the middle. Like I was so nutrient deficient
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  and it's because I wasn't like doing it properly.
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  You know what I mean? I wasn't actually trying to cook
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  like nutritious protein filled vegetarian meals like a lot of
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  those six years. I was in the early like stages
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  of like being at university, so I was cooking for myself and I
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  was just partying and I like did not give a shit.
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  So I was not caring about my nutrition and I was not eating
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  properly. I feel like if I went vegetarian
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  or vegan now, like I would be able to do it much better.
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  You know, I probably wouldn't have that experience because I
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  would be like an adult about it. But regardless, I eat meat now.
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  A lot of my friends would actually categorize me as the
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  person that they know who loves animals the most.
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  But I don't know, maybe that's just performative, you know,
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  Like, I don't know, I'm not offended by that take, but
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  literally Reddit, Twitter, TikTok, like everybody is losing
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  their minds being like vegans, vegetarians, like they're so
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  annoying and like just getting so defensive about this.
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  It's really interesting to watch.
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  Now, some people have made the point that this could be seen as
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  like a more whitewashed take because it doesn't consider the
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  customs and experiences of other cultures, particularly
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  indigenous cultures. That's definitely like, not my
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  place to say, but that is a criticism floating around out
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  there. We are also traumatized from the
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  2000s vegan movement and so much of it was rooted in Internet
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  culture and YouTube. So I understand why people feel
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  defensive against the movement when they hear things like this.
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  But like, she was not up on some high horse.
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  Like she was asked this question.
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  That's my opinion. That's my opinion.
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  She was asked this question. Maybe I'm just like secure
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  enough in my dietary choices that it doesn't offend me.
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  I believe two things can be true, but Billy doesn't and
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  that's OK. Anyways, guys, that's it for
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