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Isaac HP: From Norfolk to TikTok Fame & Stand-Up Comedy | TalkBox Ep. 46 · Rich Fulcher's TalkBox

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  Hi guys, Don't forget to review and press follow for all of the
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  episodes this week is Isaac HP. You love him?
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  He's all over the Internet and we have a wonderful discussion
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  filled with birds. I mean, I don't know why I said
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  that really. Let's just get on with it.
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  I'm embarrassed. Security.
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  I'm Rich Fulcher, please bring me back to my family.
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  Hey, how? Are you Dick?
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  Hey, how's it going? Nice to meet.
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  You. That was a nice handshake.
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  Yeah, that was very good. I was practising it.
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  I made your coffee. Oh.
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  Thank you so much. Thank you for the coffee.
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  Oat milk in it. Yeah, yeah, I know because I did
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  say there was dietary requirements and milk makes me
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  do poo. Poo.
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  It's a diuretic. Yeah, Yeah, it is.
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  It's the. It's the gateway to all.
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  The time. Oh.
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  Same in the morning. I have two coffees.
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  Yeah. Dumb.
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  Get it all out. Yeah, Yeah.
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  You have to get that Pooh bullet out, you know?
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  Yeah. And you know, it comes out and
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  then you get up and then you go, I have to go some more.
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  Yeah, because sometimes I have like 2 separate poos, yes you
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  know like I met different colours from different meals and
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  everything. But they, they, you know,
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  they're polite with each other that.
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  Would be a great art film. 2 separate poos.
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  Yeah, 1 intestinal. Did you watch the Oscars, by the
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  way? No, I've only seen clips.
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  I'm the I'm the type of generation where I I see clips
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  of it. No, no, it used to be a thing
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  that you would. For one thing, it's too late
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  here. Yeah, you have to sort of like
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  stay up quite late to watch like sort of two in the morning kind
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  of kind of vibes. But in LAA, lot of people would
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  just show up at the theatre and watch people come in.
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  Wow. They'd hang out.
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  They. 'D just like Hang Out.
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  Have you been to the Oscars? To sort of no.
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  No, but I sit on another podcast.
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  I tried to sneak into an Oscars party and I got in, but then I
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  got caught. Oh yeah, What they cut, they cut
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  who caught you. Cut my Dick off Never.
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  Know. Oh my God, that's not good, man.
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  That's not good, but. That's Hollywood though, yeah.
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  Yeah. Yeah, you know, there's,
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  there's, there's consequences to being in the wrong.
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  That's what they do. Yeah, Yeah, man.
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  But you ordered oat milk in your coffee, so that's how I knew
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  that you were from Brighton. Yeah, yeah, we originated, we
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  Brighton was the OG oat milk people.
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  I mean, they, they had those billboards.
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  There was a, there was a massive church in the centre of
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  Brighton. Yeah.
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  And when I moved to Brighton, they had they had billboards on
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  the church and it was oat milk. Really Advertisements?
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  Yeah, Oatly as oat. Milk.
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  Yeah, on this like massive church.
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  And it was like that oat milk is bigger than Jesus in Brighton.
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  It's that's what we worship. Yeah.
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  We worship the oat, the juicy oat.
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  Oh, the oat milk. I am the oat milk king.
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  So how long have you been in Brighton?
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  I've been in Brighton since 2019.
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  Yeah, shit. Is it like, because no, the
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  thing about London or any big city as you want a cheap area
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  where all the creatives can hang out?
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  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  So is Brighton cheaper than London?
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  Brighton was only cheaper because of I had family that so
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  I lived in Norfolk and he's kind of inbreds.
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  You're having sex with your relatives.
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  I was, I was. I was.
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  Yeah, I was in Norfolk. I was having intercourse with my
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  relatives in in Norfolk. Kenny.
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  I was doing, I was doing sexy tying with that and then and
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  then. You came from Norfolk?
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  Yeah, I came from Norfolk, Yeah, the flatlands of Norfolk and
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  then and then went to Brighton to do, to do stand up.
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  Actually I just had some relatives, like really long
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  distance, like my dad's cousin. What made you just go up from,
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  you know, stand up friendly Norfolk to want to go to
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  Brighton? Well, because like there wasn't
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  I was, I caught myself driving to do like I was driving from
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  Norfolk to like Portsmouth to do like 5 minutes on stage.
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  Like really like random open mic.
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  Yeah, open mic. I was only ever an open mic
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  until I started doing videos really.
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  And now I can just about get onto a good bill, isn't?
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  That great right? Though that's the way now, yeah.
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  Or that's one way it. Is the way I mean before, before
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  lockdown, I mean it was like I remember having one of my last
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  gigs, everyone knew that the whole country was going to get
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  locked down and all the comedians were like, what are
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  you going to do 5. Minutes, yeah.
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  Yeah, you got 5 minutes to get all of it out.
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  Lockdown. Yeah, lockdown.
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  And then they said to me, they're like, what are you going
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  to do? And I said I'm going to, I might
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  start making Tik Toks, you know? And then they all laughed at me
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  because they thought it was like they thought it was an app that
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  girls dance on and like to like new sort of Calvin Harris songs
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  do. You know what?
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  It's kind of akin to like asking about Einstein, What are you
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  going to do? And he goes, well, I'm going to
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  think about relativity. And then they laugh at him.
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  Yeah, it was a bit like that. I felt like, I felt like I felt
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  like you're laughing at a genius here.
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  Yeah, and soon I'm going to be in a cave doing a podcast.
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  But did you, when you said you were going to do Tik Toks, were
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  you thinking of it as well, this is just something I want to do
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  or you thought this is the way forward?
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  Yeah, I, I, I just sort of saw a door open, I think.
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  And I just, I just noticed that people was just making funny
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  videos on there and I just went on benefits, you know, like
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  claiming benefits and making videos.
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  And I just I basically just. But did you know you could make
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  money doing that? I, I kind of did it, there
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  wasn't much money on it when you first started it, but I would
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  put my PayPal in my bio and I'd say if you send me £4 then I'll
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  send you a video, a customised video that was smart to your
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  Instagram. It was like Cameo.
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  Yeah, It was like Cameo. I don't have Cameo existed
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  already, but I was just like, I didn't.
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  I was just like, I, I didn't know how to get on that app.
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  I don't know if it existed or not, but I was just like, send
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  me, send me 4 lbs. Write what you want in the
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  little description thing and. Did you get a lot of people?
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  Yeah, I mean, I made like £40 on my first day of doing it, which
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  was a lot of money at that point in Brighton, In Brighton.
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  You know how many oat lattes that is?
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  That's like. Free oat lattes.
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  Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy.
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  Yeah, that's crazy. All of a sudden, my Pooh
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  problems disappeared. Yeah.
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  Just like that. Just like that.
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  Yeah. Oh, wow.
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  This is great. Yeah.
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  Yeah. So you went to Brighton to do to
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  be closer to the Nexus of comedy?
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  Yeah, I wanted to sort of be closer to London, so I was doing
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  a lot of the open mics five days a week.
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  But there's a lot in Brighton comedy wise.
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  Yeah, yeah, there was. There was a good amount in there
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  to do. There was a good amount of like
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  gigs I could just sort of walk to and you know, the town I
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  lived in Norfolk, you could never walk to a gig unless it
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  was sort of a sort of a racist rally of some sort, right you.
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  Could have to go by cow. Yeah, you have to sort of
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  whistle on the whole barnyard would come out and and you just
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  sort of, yeah, Redneck county. I suppose you can make fun of
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  Norfolk if you're from there. Even if you're not from there, I
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  think it deserves to be taking the piss out of to be fat.
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  There's there's a lot wrong with Norfolk.
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  I went to the Broads once. Oh yeah, the Norfolk Broads.
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  Like in the David Bowie song. Yeah, like Ibiza to the Norfolk
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  Broads. Oh yeah, he made that famous.
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  I think he's the Carol. To the Broads, yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, that song. So Brighton was happening.
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  It's still happening. It's it's like.
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  I love this. Explosion of joy.
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  I love Brighton. There's all these.
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  It seems like the pressure is off in Brighton.
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  It's almost like I'm not in London.
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  I don't have to worry about a lot of shit.
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  Yeah, yeah, it's, it disappears. And I think people from London
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  like to go to Brighton to sort of dip, dip their toes in the
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  sea. It's a bit like that river in
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  India that cleanses the soul. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Because the Thames doesn't
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  really do that, doesn't it? It's sort of there's a lot of
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  toxic. The Ganges.
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  The Ganges, yeah, that's yeah, yeah.
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  People from London love to come down to Brighton and take over
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  our pubs. In post.
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  Oh really? Because.
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  Yeah, after I think that I think it was off the lockdown, it got,
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  it got a lot, it got black. I mean, that's fine.
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  Some more fridge magnets and stuff do.
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  You get upset when Londoners go because I noticed I just went up
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  there with my family and we left on a Friday and Friday at like
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  noon everybody started coming. There's a wave, yeah of
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  everyone's wearing AG lay all of a sudden.
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  Yeah, yeah. And AG string.
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  And AG string, yeah, AG lay and AG string, yeah, sort of.
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  Yeah. It's a good way to relax and
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  also make money on the stock market at the same time.
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  Exactly. Yeah, guys, I cannot believe
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  this. But it's been a year since we've
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  had our first podcast with Dan Clark.
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  Can you believe it? I can't believe it.
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  And you know what we've decided to do?
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  We're going to do a live show the 11th of April, that's a
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  Saturday at the Moth Club. So go on the Moth Club website
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  and get you tickies because it's going to sell out fast.
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  Mother F Watts OK, all right, see you there live.
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  So you did the Tik Toks during COVID?
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. During COVID on my iPhone 9.
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  What? What was your Would you treat it
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  like a job? Would you just get up?
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  And I would. I've got 10 ideas I want to do.
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  Yeah, yeah, that's pretty much how I did it.
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  I would, I would sort of, I wouldn't really write, but I'd
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  just sit there with my phone because you had in lockdown I
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  just had all day and I mean, I had that.
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  Show that's how you would do it because you had your phone
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  because. Yeah, I would.
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  I would. I didn't have a tripod, but I
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  had like a little desk and there was like a little like desk and
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  I'd put it, I'd put it up against the printer and I'd sit
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  on this little stall and I'd just make like 20 videos of me
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  saying things or replying to comments.
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  And then I'd go on a walk around this like sort of forest bit
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  around the back of the near the house in.
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  The famous forest, the famous. Forest, Yeah, yeah.
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  And I, and I would walk around that and then I'd come back and
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  I, I see what did well and what didn't do well.
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  And then I'd sort of figure out the algorithm you know as to
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  what did well but now did. You figure out yourself what did
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  well or did you ask somebody? Well, I just look at the views.
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  I just look at what did what did you know how, how did that video
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  do better than that video? TikTok was very simple back
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  then. If you made something that was
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  like hit the mark, it would just go, it would just skyrocket in
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  an hour and really you could get like hundreds of thousands of
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  views just so quickly. When now I don't understand it
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  anymore. I don't know if it's because my
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  frontal lobe has developed. So like, I'm not quite, I think,
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  you know, I'm trying to. More algorithms at work?
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  Yeah, aren't there? Yeah, Yeah, there's more out.
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  Yeah, there's the the algorithm. Yeah.
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  I mean, I don't, I don't even understand.
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  What do you feel without giving away like industry secrets,
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  What's the ideal amount of. Time.
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  It's like you think I'm Mr Beast, don't you?
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  Yes, I do. Because, you know, Mr Beast,
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  instead of going to school, he would talk with these four guys,
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  right? Yeah.
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  Every day about what would be the right thumbnail, what's the
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  right amount of time. Yeah.
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  They would all talk like Socrates and Plato.
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  Yeah. Sort of the algorithm of
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  YouTube, yeah. But you did that all by
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  yourself. Exactly.
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  I'm four of them in one guy. What's the ideal amount of time
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  to to do a TikTok video? Is it 26 seconds?
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  Like is there an ideal time? Or well, if you want to get
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  paid, it has to be over a minute.
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  It does. Yeah, yeah, well, that's why
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  every video is one minute, one second now because people are
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  trying to speak as much as they can to get paid I.
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  Thought your videos were not a minute.
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  No, mine aren't but I get I actually get paid on Facebook
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  now so I just I I don't care anymore as long as it's 10
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  seconds over. You can get paid on Facebook,
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  but on TikTok, on TikTok you have to go minute over a.
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  Minute over. Yeah, yeah, a minute over.
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  And if you, if it's under a minute, then you, you, you don't
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  get paid. You can't unionise, you can't do
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  any of those things. Are you serious?
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  Yeah, Basically, yeah, yeah. Did you know that, Kenny?
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  Like 15 second videos are basically over now.
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  It's all about people. People want to watch for longer
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  now. I don't know what happened.
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  I don't know, it's something to do with advertisement and how
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  many there's Tick Tock shop. Have you bought anything on
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  TikTok shop? No, it's basically eBay but
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  videos and it's like a section of TikTok shop and it's just
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  like the worst stuff. But but they're always trying to
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  flog like, you know, a microwave that can sort of tell you your
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  blood rate and stuff and things like that.
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  Just, you know, like the stuff on Dragon's Den that didn't get
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  yes, didn't ever get anywhere. It's now all on TikTok show.
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  OK, so it's like rejected stuff. Yeah, it's like when you're in
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  TK Maxx and you're like walking to the tills and you steal all
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  that all like the multi coloured pasta in the sort of like
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  pencils. Yeah, yeah, the pencils.
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  Turn into birds. Yeah, the.
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  Yeah, the pencils that turn into birds.
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  Yeah, it's been a while since I've.
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  I had one of those in my pencil case.
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  So you know everything there is to know about TikTok.
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  I would say out of all of the people, I'm the person that
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  probably knows the most about TikTok, OK?
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  Yeah. I know the most about TikTok.
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  What's the next TikTok? The next the next big TikTok.
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  Well, I think it's gonna be, I think it's gonna, I think me and
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  you will make a video. I think that'll be the next big
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  tick. Tock no, I mean, you know, the
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  next social. Media.
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  Sorry. OK, the next, the next, the next
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  thing is probably LinkedIn. Yeah.
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  I think LinkedIn is on the app. It's one of the top websites in
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  the world. Out of all of the websites,
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  LinkedIn is probably the top website.
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  I mean, it's I, I I've never actually used it, but.
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  You're not on. It no, but I I suspect if I
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  started using LinkedIn, my career would probably become I
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  was. Thinking of getting on it even
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  though I I'm scared of it. Yeah, it's a lot of a lot of a
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  lot of men with G Lays on. Yeah, G Lays telling you what's
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  what and stuff. It's like if the Shard was turn
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  into a digital platform. But isn't LinkedIn about getting
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  jobs and. It's about getting jobs, but
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  it's also about bragging about your job.
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  Yeah, yeah. As well put.
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  Your best foot forward. Yeah, you, you really put your
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  best sort of. Yeah, you've really.
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  Oh. It's what in D-Day?
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  And now I invest in. And I own a big goal.
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  I'd love to have fought in D-Day, man.
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  Yeah, I'd kind of wish see there are no more wars that you can
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  fight in that are cool anymore. That's the problem.
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  That was the cool war. Yeah, that's yeah.
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  That was the war that was that was cool to fight and you could
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  just go back and everyone was chill with you.
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  We see because then it would be OK to be a hippie after that.
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  Because you could say you'd sort of you've, you've seen war.
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  I've seen it all, so now I can ride a motorcycle, whereas now
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  it's just like, what are you doing?
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  Yeah, it's just I don't understand.
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  I don't understand. I mean, I don't know where there
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  would be any cool wars. Maybe the war run?
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  Drugs. Drugs.
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  I feel like I'm on drugs right now.
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  I know, I know what? Do you put in this coffee?
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  So does TikTok help you at all with your stand up?
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  Yeah, it helps me to a certain extent.
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  I mean, I can get. I don't like to, you know,
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  because I only have an open I. Feel like you tapped into a bad
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  answer because you've been asked this a lot, haven't you?
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  Yeah, yeah. I've been asked it a lot, but
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  but also I I do think that TikTok has helped me with my
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  stand up as in I can do my own shows and people can come and
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  see me. But when it comes to my club
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  spot, you know, doing doing like a good club set, I don't think
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  it's really improved me as a comedian.
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  So you. Don't get jokes from doing it
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  or. Well, I don't want to go on
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  stage and act like, act like people know me already because a
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  lot of time. But does anybody get mad like,
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  hey, you didn't do that stuff you do in the forest, man.
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  Yeah, some people say. Telling jokes.
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  Yeah, yeah, some people are like that.
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  Some people are like, hey, why are you?
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  This is bogus. Yeah.
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  Stop talking about D-Day and start talking about you know my
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  ass and my forehead. Yeah, you big ass.
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  Yeah, they want me to just say things like that.
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  So talk about kebabs. And, you know, because I've made
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  myself really kitsch. No, I mean it is a problem just
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  in that you want to get people on the same page.
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  Right. Yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah, like we're going to be doing this podcast live.
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  Oh cool in April. Oh, with our.
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  Year anniversary. Oh hell yeah.
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  Yeah, but I don't want people thinking they're going to see
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  stand up. Yeah, you want them to think
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  that it's it's a nice, a nice sit down, relax, sort of.
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  Yeah, we're going to see people sitting down on nothing violent.
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  I mean, maybe. It depends who deserves it,
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  right? Yeah, exactly.
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  Some people deserve a bit of violence again.
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  I mean crowd, yeah. Like GG Allen or something.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you ever go to his concert?
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  I think I was conceived at one of his concerts.
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  Oh my God. Yeah, that's why I he.
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  Would throw poo out into the audience.
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  Yeah, I had it on DVD. I found it on in like a charity
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  shop. You watch it and then Pooh comes
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  flying out. I had 3D glasses.
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  I had Gigi Allen. Is he?
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  Still alive. No, I think he died in the in
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  the 80s on night. I'll rest in peace.
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  Yeah. Take a sip for that.
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  Take a take a sip for Gigi Allen.
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  How? Can that guy keep that up?
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  I know. I mean, it was, I think that's
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  why he died, really. He wasn't a man that expected
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  longevity in his career. He wasn't going to sit.
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  He wasn't expecting a sort of, yeah, I mean, now where GG Allen
• 19:17
  would, if he was still alive, he would definitely have sort of
• 19:19
  BBC Sounds podcast or something. He would.
• 19:22
  I don't know what he'd be up to, really.
• 19:23
  What would you have to be up to? But.
• 19:25
  That's the thing though, you, you kind of have to consider it,
• 19:28
  right? When you do an act, say it's
• 19:30
  really high energy, are you going to be able to do that ACT
• 19:33
  when you're 80? Yeah.
• 19:36
  Like you know it may kill you. Yeah, I'm surprised it hasn't
• 19:40
  killed some people like Iggy Pop.
• 19:42
  Well, look at say, I mean Chris Farley.
• 19:47
  Yeah, Chris Farley. He was just high octane.
• 19:50
  High of the time, yeah, you can't.
• 19:53
  Keep that up. No, sometimes you got to go
• 19:55
  slow. You got to go slow.
• 19:57
  Yeah, even Mo Farah now, he's taking it slow.
• 19:59
  Mo Farah. MO Farah's taking it slow.
• 20:03
  That's why he eats the corn. The corn.
• 20:07
  The corn. The the the vegetarian meat.
• 20:11
  Meat. Oh, corn.
• 20:12
  He just sits down now and eats corn and occasionally he's on a
• 20:17
  reality TV show. That's why I'm all.
• 20:19
  Over the place. Yeah, I saw him on the way here.
• 20:22
  Man, he was going crazy. Oh, MO.
• 20:25
  It was outside prep. He was just he didn't know
• 20:27
  whether to run or walk. He's all over the place and he
• 20:30
  doesn't know how to. He doesn't know how to queue,
• 20:32
  you know, because he's so used to sort of skipping.
• 20:34
  He's in transition past people. Yeah, yeah, he's in trans.
• 20:37
  I think that's what people on the streets are saying about
• 20:39
  Matt Mcfarry. He's on having a transitional
• 20:41
  period in his life. Yeah, it's true though.
• 20:46
  I mean your high. What would you describe your
• 20:50
  stand up as? I would describe it as, yeah,
• 20:53
  high energy. I used to be really high energy
• 20:56
  and you know, until the accident.
• 20:59
  What accident? Well, it was in Poundland.
• 21:02
  Do you know of Poundland? In the fight.
• 21:05
  Yeah, yeah, I got into a fight in Poundland.
• 21:08
  Yeah, yeah. With my nan.
• 21:10
  Yeah, I never since. Reaching a can of mustard.
• 21:15
  Yeah, I kind of. Yeah, we are both reaching.
• 21:17
  It was the last can of Coleman's mustard and you know, she beat
• 21:21
  me to a pulp. Yeah, obviously she's got that
• 21:24
  D-Day energy in her still. I read an article about things
• 21:28
  you should not buy in Poundland or $0.99 stores.
• 21:33
  Really. Like detergent you shouldn't
• 21:36
  buy. You shouldn't buy that from
• 21:37
  Poundland. Not very.
• 21:38
  Strong. Oh, it's the weak batch then.
• 21:40
  Yes, Yeah, it's the weak batch of detergent.
• 21:42
  It's rejected. It's rejected detergent that
• 21:46
  sounds like a punk band. Yeah, yeah, we all rejected
• 21:50
  detergent. Wow, I I I don't know what to.
• 22:02
  Do rejected. I'm a little bit dirty.
• 22:05
  Rejected made me cough. It made me cum.
• 22:13
  That was, yeah. Gigi, Gigi man, take off the
• 22:19
  glasses, man. Come on, we can't conceive
• 22:21
  another child at your concert, man.
• 22:23
  Christ, where are you right now in your career?
• 22:28
  Are you? Is TikTok now a business for you
• 22:31
  like? Yes, I do.
• 22:34
  I do look at it a bit more. I look at it to be fair, sorry.
• 22:37
  I'm asking questions. No, no, it's OK.
• 22:39
  I feel bad. It's like I shouldn't be doing
• 22:42
  it. What?
• 22:43
  Really. Yeah.
• 22:44
  Why do you think that I? Is it because of me or?
• 22:46
  No, no, because I'm putting you in it on the spot.
• 22:49
  Yeah, I don't want to put you on it.
• 22:51
  My whole reason for doing the podcast is more of a
• 22:54
  conversation. Oh, great.
• 22:55
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anytime I ask a question,
• 22:58
  it's sort of like jarring, isn't it?
• 23:02
  No, I like it. Oh, OK, I like it.
• 23:04
  I had therapy yesterday so this is like an extension.
• 23:08
  Of that, you're OK. Yeah, this is like therapy.
• 23:10
  Sit on the gastric. Lay on the couch.
• 23:12
  Did you lay down? No, I don't.
• 23:14
  I don't lay down and sometimes I get a boner.
• 23:18
  Yeah, yeah, sometimes I just do a do a headstand and let it all
• 23:22
  come out. But do you?
• 23:25
  Is it a is it a zoom therapy or is?
• 23:28
  It no face to face, face to face.
• 23:31
  So the door has beads on it and stuff and.
• 23:35
  Oh, no, no, that's. Well, I don't know.
• 23:37
  Sometimes some of them do. Yeah.
• 23:40
  Yeah. And he gets these cards out and
• 23:42
  he. Is it, is it really intensive
• 23:45
  therapy or is it kind of cognitive?
• 23:50
  I don't know. It's I'm seeing a, I'm seeing a
• 23:52
  very like a specialist now. OK.
• 23:56
  From my deranged mind. OK, Yeah.
• 23:59
  I don't mean to get. To No, no, no.
• 24:01
  Yeah, yeah. I I see.
• 24:03
  The problem with me is I don't know what like, I don't know how
• 24:07
  to hold myself in a space. You know, apparently I have
• 24:10
  issues with time and space. What do you mean I don't know?
• 24:12
  He said that. He said that my brain is
• 24:14
  constantly living in the past and trying to predict the
• 24:16
  future. So.
• 24:18
  So I don't know where I am a lot of the time, which is why I was
• 24:20
  10 minutes late here. Is the thing being in the now?
• 24:24
  Yeah, I think he said that The thing is being in the now.
• 24:27
  Are you ever in a party and you think I should be doing some?
• 24:31
  I mean, are you ever feeling like you're not a part of the
• 24:35
  party? Sometimes I feel like I am the
• 24:38
  party. Yeah, you know, And then
• 24:40
  sometimes I feel like a little Ant that's on the shelf watching
• 24:44
  the party. Yeah, there's different.
• 24:46
  There's different different. So you feel like an outsider.
• 24:49
  Sometimes I feel, yeah, I definitely feel like an
• 24:51
  outsider. And I think that comes to the
• 24:53
  fact that I, I grew up quite poor in a council house in, you
• 24:59
  know, and I was quite, I grew up in sort of English poverty.
• 25:03
  I would, I would describe it as that.
• 25:05
  Yeah. In Norfolk, sort of, yeah.
• 25:06
  English, Norfolk poverty and. And I would go to school and I'd
• 25:11
  noticed that some kids had better, better shoes than me and
• 25:14
  better clothes than me and better house than me and stuff
• 25:17
  like that. Steal their clothes.
• 25:19
  So, yeah, I'd steal their clothes.
• 25:20
  I sort of wear their I'd, I'd kill their parents and wear,
• 25:23
  wear their dad's face on my face.
• 25:25
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 25:26
  And I'd sort of pretend to. This is all make a breakfast.
• 25:29
  No, it's no longer. A bug?
• 25:31
  Well, I don't think yeah, no, it's OK because it's all just
• 25:33
  satire. You can just say these days it's
• 25:36
  a joke, so it's fine. Yeah, you're right.
• 25:39
  Yeah, Yeah. I mean, that's all.
• 25:40
  That's all you have to do. I mean in those kind of
• 25:42
  situations. So how do you think that affects
• 25:45
  you now in terms of your comedy and stuff?
• 25:48
  Do you think that you. Yeah, well, The thing is like
• 25:51
  one, one thing I struggle with my my voice as a comedian,
• 25:54
  you're supposed to sort of talk about who you are.
• 25:56
  I mean, a lot of comedians who are sort of on doing 10 minute
• 25:59
  spots at these comedy clubs, they go on stage and they do a
• 26:02
  they talk about stereotype about themselves.
• 26:04
  Yes, but I grew up poor. But I don't sound like I did.
• 26:07
  And also I've got a double barrel, double barrel surname.
• 26:10
  So like no one believes me. And when I was in Norfolk and
• 26:14
  everyone knew because it's such a small town, but when I moved
• 26:17
  to Brighton, all of a sudden you're you're hanging out with
• 26:20
  people whose everyone's parents have Wikipedias and stuff and
• 26:23
  you're hanging out with the nepo babies of the world and.
• 26:25
  Stuff. Also, you go to Brighton, you
• 26:28
  can invent, you can present yourself to other people any way
• 26:32
  you want. Yeah, you can.
• 26:34
  You can completely just reinvent yourself.
• 26:36
  How did how did you present yourself?
• 26:39
  I presented myself as a. Here comes the last, here it
• 26:48
  comes. This is gonna be good.
• 26:52
  I presented myself as a very polite young man.
• 26:55
  Nice. Yeah.
• 26:56
  Yeah, that's the best way to present yourself over your life.
• 26:59
  We'll put. Something else in there?
• 27:00
  Yeah. You just gotta yeah OK no look
• 27:05
  at the edit and change it. So do you talk about yourself
• 27:11
  and Stan? I mean, I guess stand ups,
• 27:13
  that's the way they tell you to do it.
• 27:16
  Yeah, I mean, I, you know, when I started doing, I was doing a
• 27:18
  lot of really just like surreal 1 liners and a lot of a lot of
• 27:22
  like surreal stuff. Really.
• 27:24
  I would sort of, I don't really. And now I'm sort of, I don't
• 27:27
  know what to do on stage as much.
• 27:28
  I'm figuring it out now. I'm doing these like try out
• 27:31
  shows. No, but it's interesting because
• 27:33
  you write all these jokes, right?
• 27:35
  And then other people just, they just start talking about
• 27:40
  themselves and you go, should I be doing that?
• 27:43
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 27:44
  I mean, is that something you're supposed to do or is it?
• 27:47
  It doesn't come natural to me. Yeah, it doesn't to me either.
• 27:51
  I mean, I've always, it's weird. I've always been a bit avoidant
• 27:55
  of of of myself. Yeah, that's why, like you feel
• 27:59
  more like as a character or saying something weird.
• 28:03
  Yeah, yeah. More I like, I like clown, clown
• 28:07
  stuff. You know, like clown.
• 28:08
  Yeah, that's kind of thing, the wobbly wrist.
• 28:14
  What is it that's showing off the jewellery?
• 28:16
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I, I like the clown kind of
• 28:20
  stuff. I mean, I wish I I want to do
• 28:22
  more stuff like that. I have an idea where I dress up
• 28:24
  as a whoopie cushion and just make fart noises down the line.
• 28:27
  Oh. Yes, I've seen that one.
• 28:29
  Oh, it's already been done. No, you did it.
• 28:32
  Didn't you do it? Someone else done it.
• 28:34
  Someone else has probably done it though.
• 28:35
  I just bought a whoopie cushion costume off Amazon the other
• 28:37
  day. They're amazing.
• 28:39
  Yeah, it's the best thing Jeff Bose has ever made.
• 28:41
  Yeah, was the Whoopi cushion costume.
• 28:45
  You got to get that up and running soon, because I think
• 28:48
  I've seen it have. You seen it like a Whoopi
• 28:50
  cushion. I'll talk to someone on the
• 28:53
  Internet and we'll get that taken all down and then I'll
• 28:56
  come in and I'll Mandela affect it like, you know, I'll come in
• 28:59
  and everyone be like, have I seen this?
• 29:00
  Oh no, he was the originator of it.
• 29:02
  So it seems like you, though, you've got plans, you've got
• 29:07
  ideas. Yeah, yeah.
• 29:08
  You want to do something more than just stand up, is that
• 29:12
  right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:14
  I want to just, I, you know what, Right now, I like the
• 29:17
  content I'm doing. I'm sort of saving.
• 29:18
  I want to save up my money. And then I just want to like
• 29:20
  make a project, which is sort of what I've always done.
• 29:22
  I've made a lot of short films. But do it yourself.
• 29:24
  Yeah, I just do it myself. And I, I've made a few short
• 29:26
  films. I made a short film called With
• 29:28
  My Friend. I made it.
• 29:29
  I made a film called The Crucifixion, which is about a
• 29:32
  man who's obsessed with minions, and then he got crucified on a
• 29:35
  cross that was yellow and it had stickers all with them, what
• 29:39
  with Minions all over it. Well, you know, there was a
• 29:41
  thing called a crucifixion. Yeah, Yeah.
• 29:45
  Yeah, I know. Yeah, I guess that's already
• 29:48
  been done. How did that do?
• 29:51
  Well, a lot of people like this has already been done.
• 29:52
  You've just done it. Yellow, you've just done it, but
• 29:56
  yellow, you know, like, so I just, you know, I want to do, I
• 30:00
  want to do, you know, I want to make, I might just remake stuff
• 30:03
  in a different colour. You know I do Peaky Blinders,
• 30:05
  but everybody's blue. Do a green one, do a green one.
• 30:08
  Oat milk. Yeah, yeah, I like that.
• 30:13
  So you did that and what? So what did you take it to
• 30:17
  festivals and. Stuff.
• 30:18
  No, I just put it on YouTube, all right, and just sort of like
• 30:22
  sat in my room. No, that's great.
• 30:25
  Yeah. It's only I was, I was so scared
• 30:27
  of doing all that kind of stuff, but now I feel more open to it
• 30:30
  now. I don't know why I get so self
• 30:32
  sabotagey, you know? And I think therapy has helped
• 30:34
  me not be so self sabotagey. Also.
• 30:37
  I wouldn't be doing this. I wouldn't have messaged you
• 30:39
  years ago or something like that.
• 30:41
  But now I. Feel like because you messaged
• 30:43
  me, Yeah, yeah. Some people call it stalking.
• 30:49
  Well, I followed you all the way here.
• 30:52
  Sometimes it works, sometimes it works.
• 30:54
  Security. You message me because you're
• 31:01
  doing a podcast. You asked me to be on it.
• 31:04
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got a podcast called Beef.
• 31:07
  Yeah. Yeah, normally I don't promote
• 31:10
  any podcasts on this podcast really, but yeah, just jokingly
• 31:18
  I say, but what is beef? Beef is a Beef is a kind of
• 31:26
  meat. Yeah.
• 31:27
  Tasty yellow beef. Yeah.
• 31:29
  I suck. It was.
• 31:30
  I milk it from my teeth. I try to be discreet.
• 31:33
  Yeah, it's very good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:36
  So beef is something, it's like a podcast, basically.
• 31:39
  The production company came up with this idea called beef.
• 31:41
  I've come in and I'm making it really weird.
• 31:43
  Yeah, yeah. And it was like a show
• 31:44
  originally where people bring things they have beef with, you
• 31:47
  know, and it's like a topical complaint, a complaining
• 31:50
  podcast. You know, if you sometimes you
• 31:51
  want to just hear people complain about things and.
• 31:53
  That's great. And you know, like you can even
• 31:55
  do it, you know, people, people go on GB news, people go on LBC,
• 31:58
  you know, and then there's beef. Beef will come out as well.
• 32:00
  But it's going to be a non political sort of podcast, you
• 32:03
  know, you know, where we try to be anyway, some people have
• 32:05
  probably the rat. Sorry.
• 32:07
  Have you done any? Beefs yet?
• 32:10
  I have done 7 episodes. Oh nice, only one has come out
• 32:15
  so far, but yeah. Do you have an agent?
• 32:19
  No, I don't. I don't have.
• 32:21
  You don't. No, I don't.
• 32:22
  I don't. I, I I've.
• 32:24
  Had kind of cool in a way. I've I have people I work with,
• 32:27
  you know, non exclusively, but I I've I get offered it.
• 32:32
  You're a bit like LeBron James, you know, you've got your posse
• 32:36
  of people. Yeah.
• 32:37
  Are these like friends from school?
• 32:40
  They're just friends that I've made along the way.
• 32:42
  Nice, but they're friends from the school of life.
• 32:46
  And your enemies closer. Yeah, yeah.
• 32:48
  I keep my friends close, my enemies closer, and then a
• 32:53
  minute, you know, then I pounce at them when I can.
• 32:56
  So. Do you think you'll ever get an
• 32:58
  agent or do you think? I think I'll get an agent at one
• 33:00
  point. Yeah, well, you know.
• 33:02
  You'll get so busy. I'll get so busy making cameos.
• 33:08
  I do cameos too. Really.
• 33:10
  Yeah, I think sometimes I may see you on the leaderboard.
• 33:12
  Do you ever get on the? Leaderboard once in a while.
• 33:14
  Once in a while I'm on the leaderboard and then it's like,
• 33:16
  oh. Yeah, it's weird being on the
• 33:18
  leaderboard because you end up next to people like, like
• 33:20
  Jeffrey Epstein's look alike and stuff.
• 33:24
  You're like. Why I'm a pedo.
• 33:25
  Happy birthday. Happy birthday from the Island.
• 33:32
  You know, but I mean, I get on the leaderboard and there's no
• 33:36
  way I can keep this pace up because how do people get one of
• 33:42
  the guys, Brian Baumgardner from the Office the series.
• 33:46
  Yeah, Yeah, he made like a million.
• 33:49
  Yeah, he was. He made big bucks from it.
• 33:51
  Yeah, big bucks from Cameo. James.
• 33:55
  Buckley Buckley from Inbetweeners.
• 33:57
  Yeah, yeah, he makes a mint. He makes a lot of money, but
• 34:02
  then you have to just sit alone all the time.
• 34:04
  Sometimes I like to go out and look at seagulls.
• 34:07
  You've got to just basically go hi, happy birthday.
• 34:10
  Hi, happy birthday. Yeah.
• 34:12
  Hi, Lorraine. Happy birthday.
• 34:13
  Yeah. Hi.
• 34:14
  Happy birthday. Hi, Happy birthday.
• 34:15
  Sometimes I have to say really horrible things to people.
• 34:19
  Sometimes I like call my mom a slag.
• 34:20
  Do they want you to do that? Yeah, I'll be like, hi, Kerry,
• 34:23
  you're a massive slag. Happy birthday to you, you dirty
• 34:27
  bitch. And stuff like that.
• 34:28
  I would pay you right now. Yeah, and it's like £35.
• 34:31
  Why would someone spending £35 on that?
• 34:33
  I know. And that's enough money to buy a
• 34:35
  T-shirt from Urban Outfitters. Did you find that people, like
• 34:39
  some people don't think it's cool to do Cameo?
• 34:43
  Yeah, yeah, some people think they're too cool for school to
• 34:45
  do Cameo, and then a few years down the line I see them on
• 34:48
  there. Yeah, exactly.
• 34:50
  You're getting paid to just say stuff.
• 34:53
  Yeah, you're getting paid to say stuff and then you can buy nice
• 34:55
  things for your partner. Yes.
• 34:58
  Yeah, I'm always buying her Lego flowers and shit.
• 35:01
  That's great. This is 12 cameos here.
• 35:05
  Yeah. 12 Everything I every amount of every object I see, I
• 35:10
  just see in the amount of cameos.
• 35:12
  It's like a currency. So yeah, it's like an endless
• 35:15
  money glitch. Yeah, yeah.
• 35:17
  And I basically make, if I keep making the Tik Toks I and the
• 35:20
  Instagram Reels I, I, I keep getting the cameos in and then I
• 35:24
  can keep buying things off of Amazon Prime.
• 35:27
  Yeah, like I bought a chopping board shaped like a lemon the
• 35:29
  other day. My wife will go like we owe for
• 35:32
  the electricity. I'll do some more cameos.
• 35:36
  The light bulb is just just get off my ass.
• 35:42
  Wow. Yeah, yeah, man.
• 35:45
  Look in the Cameo booth. I mean, that's like, like I, you
• 35:50
  know, I grew up on benefits. My dad was a drug dealer and and
• 35:53
  I I. On benefits.
• 35:54
  Yeah, I grew up on benefits. You know, my mom was on
• 35:56
  benefits. My dad was a drug dealer,
• 35:58
  separated. And you know, and I, I'm not
• 36:02
  that. Did he deal out of where you
• 36:04
  were living? Sometimes he would, sometimes he
• 36:07
  would, yeah, But he he didn't live at our house.
• 36:08
  He just sort of like sofa served around the town but he's sort of
• 36:12
  come in and out. Sometimes he'd come in and sort
• 36:13
  of like, you know, rob £20 and go buy a kebab or something.
• 36:17
  Do you ever talk about this in your stand up?
• 36:20
  I should do, but like the point the problem is I get I get so
• 36:24
  far in Brighton doesn't like talking about that stuff.
• 36:26
  Yeah, maybe that's just me. Maybe they do want to hear that
• 36:31
  stuff because it is kind of funny.
• 36:32
  But but I, I. This is one person.
• 36:35
  I feel bad because it's my family.
• 36:37
  I have to talk about my family so much.
• 36:38
  I'm like, oh fucking hell. This is like, OK, you get really
• 36:41
  big or fair, a little bit bigger.
• 36:45
  You do a one person show and then they go.
• 36:49
  Isaac is an artist now. He's talking about himself.
• 36:53
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 36:54
  And he has a dark past. Yeah, yeah.
• 36:56
  People say things like that, like some people don't like it.
• 36:59
  And then and then there'll be one person with a small beanie
• 37:03
  on. They go, they go.
• 37:05
  I really like it when you talk about, you know, your feelings
• 37:07
  and stuff, but that isn't monetizable.
• 37:09
  When someone in a beanie says that to you, you know you're
• 37:12
  only going to be playing in a sort of jazz bars that do orange
• 37:15
  wine. But I mean a lot of people
• 37:18
  though, a lot of stand ups now come into it not from the joke
• 37:23
  joke joke joke. Like hey.
• 37:27
  Yeah, maybe you do. Like, you know, Yeah.
• 37:33
  Like, like a was it Laurel and Hardy and Laurel and Hardy?
• 37:39
  Laurel and Hardy, Yeah. Have they, have they had double
• 37:41
  act from Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what they come to it from
• 37:46
  not so much all jokes, but revelations about their life.
• 37:51
  Yeah, people want to hear that because people are more lost
• 37:53
  these days, or people are more aware of how lost they are.
• 37:56
  And the world is moving so quickly.
• 37:59
  People are losing their jobs to AI.
• 38:01
  People are sort of losing direction.
• 38:03
  We're in a new industrial revolution, and then people
• 38:07
  can't afford therapy. So then they look at content
• 38:09
  where people talk about their feelings and their own stories
• 38:12
  more often these days. We're back in the day.
• 38:14
  Everything around this, Yeah. Can you do that?
• 38:17
  I mean, then a comedy club where people talk about their lives.
• 38:21
  We're trying to find connections from that comic, so sometimes I
• 38:26
  feel like, oh, I'm just telling stupid jokes.
• 38:30
  Then maybe they're not connecting to me like they will
• 38:34
  say if I talked about, you know, my dad.
• 38:39
  Yeah, because everybody has sort of daddy issues, don't they?
• 38:43
  Apparently. I don't know.
• 38:45
  I think Freud's issues. Yeah.
• 38:47
  Yeah, all that kind of stuff. Yeah.
• 38:49
  But then, you know, people do just want silly things, too.
• 38:52
  And you're silly, you know? Do you?
• 38:54
  Film. Thanks, I think.
• 38:59
  Thank you. Bless you.
• 39:02
  Do you film your stand up? Yeah, I do.
• 39:05
  I do film it. I film it.
• 39:06
  I don't really post a lot of it at the minute but I I just film
• 39:08
  it for my own viewing. So you don't feel bad about
• 39:12
  watching yourself? I do.
• 39:15
  It takes me a while to watch. Like at first it's like.
• 39:20
  Because you see all it's it's not the the, the the joke.
• 39:23
  Sometimes it's the in between the jokes and you, you pick up
• 39:26
  on things that I repetitively. I say, you know a lot on stage.
• 39:30
  I go, you know, you know, or sometimes I say I don't know,
• 39:33
  but just. Watching this podcast back, I
• 39:36
  always watch it back to cut. It so you can, yeah.
• 39:40
  Yeah, No, I'm doing that with my podcast series.
• 39:42
  I find myself going, yeah, yeah, a lot.
• 39:45
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 39:46
  But. That's nice.
• 39:48
  Don't I? Yeah.
• 39:50
  I I yeah. But that's, that's, that's OK.
• 39:52
  I mean, that's basically all Joe Rogan does.
• 39:58
  I will not ascribe to that. I will not put my name down.
• 40:04
  How are you going to get on Joe Rogan if you do that?
• 40:08
  I don't know, maybe I could go to a sort of island of some
• 40:10
  sort. Maybe.
• 40:11
  Maybe I'd be a guest on that would.
• 40:13
  You like to go to the states to do.
• 40:16
  Yeah, I'd love to. I'd love to go to the States.
• 40:19
  I I'm obsessed with America. You are?
• 40:21
  Yeah. I always have been weirdly
• 40:22
  obsessed with America. You should go.
• 40:24
  As a little British kid, America is like this other world.
• 40:27
  You know when you watch it on the telly, You know when you
• 40:29
  watch it on TV and you see little documentaries about it
• 40:31
  and stuff like Lou Faroux's Weird Weekends was like one of
• 40:34
  my first. Lou Faroux.
• 40:35
  Louis Faroux, the The Documentarian.
• 40:37
  Oh, oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:39
  That made that makes me want to go to America for some reason,
• 40:43
  you know? You should do it.
• 40:45
  And like New York, I'd love to go to New York.
• 40:47
  You're from Massachusetts, right?
• 40:49
  Yes, yeah, but I moved her all over the place when you went.
• 40:54
  To Chicago I. I lived in LA before I came out.
• 40:57
  Yeah. So, yeah, I've.
• 41:00
  I'm done with a lot of that. Yeah.
• 41:03
  So I come over here, it's exciting to be here.
• 41:07
  And then I hear from people like, I want to get out of here.
• 41:11
  Yeah. Some people say.
• 41:14
  Do you want to get out of? I'm kind of comfortable in
• 41:16
  Brighton now, yeah. I mean, I think me and my
• 41:19
  girlfriend would think about maybe possibly moving to like a
• 41:22
  European country of some sort in the future.
• 41:24
  Yeah. Maybe Slovenia.
• 41:27
  Slovenia is nice, yeah. So do you do?
• 41:31
  Do you leave the country? Because of what?
• 41:34
  Why would you leave? And well, I think, you know, I
• 41:37
  might, I think just to get a different aspect of life.
• 41:41
  Oh, OK, just just to. Kind of.
• 41:44
  I don't know. I don't know.
• 41:45
  I think, yeah. Kenny's from Australia.
• 41:49
  Oh, Kenny's from Australia. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 41:50
  But. He's living out here, but he
• 41:52
  might go back. Do you live in Clapham?
• 41:54
  You're from Australia, Do you live in Clapham?
• 41:56
  They love Clapham, don't they? I've avoided that stereotype.
• 41:59
  There's something in Clapham that Australian.
• 42:01
  Stereotype. Yeah, you hear, you hear the
• 42:04
  Australian accent so much in Clapham, like just go.
• 42:07
  It goes past you like a family. Yeah, you know, like a like you
• 42:10
  just hear like a little Australian mutter.
• 42:12
  It's a. Fairy the coffee here though.
• 42:14
  In a good way or a bad? In a good way.
• 42:16
  In a good way. You think Australian coffee is?
• 42:18
  Good. Well, when did they have a flat
• 42:20
  white here? Until the Australians came.
• 42:25
  Yeah, when the Australian hipsters came to London and
• 42:28
  they, they are sort of the original fixie bike ride, Doo
• 42:32
  Wah Wah, Scoobly, Doo Wah Wah and all of that stuff.
• 42:35
  Yeah, I know him. Yeah, he's good.
• 42:37
  Yeah, Scoobly, Doo Wah Wah, he's my friend.
• 42:39
  Yeah. But I, I, yes, I think it's good
• 42:44
  to go away for a while. Just get a little perspective
• 42:48
  from another. I love to go to America.
• 42:50
  I love it. Yeah, I want to go to.
• 42:52
  What I mean is, I can tell some comics would transition.
• 42:57
  Well, yeah, into the US, Yeah, because.
• 43:00
  Some some people, there's a certain type of British that
• 43:02
  Americans want, I think. Posh.
• 43:05
  They either want Posh. Or they want, like, fish and
• 43:08
  chips. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 43:11
  They want apple and pears. Apple and pears.
• 43:14
  But regardless, they think whatever you say because of the
• 43:17
  accent, it's smarter than and so a lot of people swoon.
• 43:24
  Yeah. They do They swoon.
• 43:26
  Yeah, they're, they're strange, aren't they, about a British
• 43:28
  people? And they want to collect British
• 43:30
  people like, hey, I've got a British friend.
• 43:32
  Yeah, yeah. Like having a diverse friend
• 43:35
  group. Yes, Yeah.
• 43:37
  So I always tell people to go over.
• 43:39
  And get swinged. Get swooned, see what comes out
• 43:43
  of it. I may have to do.
• 43:44
  That, but don't just do a hit and run.
• 43:47
  No, I don't want to do a hit and run.
• 43:49
  I don't want to say I tried for a while.
• 43:51
  I don't want to. If I go to America, I don't want
• 43:53
  to just hang out there for a month and then say you never
• 43:56
  worked out. Get Commission for something to
• 44:00
  do a road trip thing in the. US.
• 44:03
  I'd love that. Yeah.
• 44:04
  I want to go to all of those sort of, you know, crazy
• 44:07
  Southern. Perspective on these things,
• 44:11
  right? We want to see you in a cemetery
• 44:15
  in New Orleans. Yeah, yeah.
• 44:18
  I would like to be in a cemetery in New Orleans.
• 44:19
  I'd like to go to every single president's grave.
• 44:22
  That would be a good show. Pitch that to somebody.
• 44:25
  Can you do that? Can you pitch that to YouTube?
• 44:29
  I can't just pitch it to youtube.com, but then YouTube,
• 44:36
  I'll pitch it to every single person I know.
• 44:39
  Well, you got to get money up front.
• 44:40
  You don't want to do this yourself.
• 44:42
  I don't want to have my own pocket.
• 44:43
  I've decided that I don't want to do that anymore.
• 44:45
  I did it and then I went broke. Although did you see that guy
• 44:48
  Ryan Strahan? He starts with like a penny and
• 44:52
  then he goes across the US. And he what makes makes.
• 44:55
  Selling water and doing shit. Oh yeah, he gives blowjobs.
• 44:59
  Oh yeah, yeah, I'm just kidding. Sloppy topping.
• 45:02
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 45:04
  Well, you were one of the first Americans I probably ever saw in
• 45:07
  a British thing. I would say.
• 45:09
  Really. Yeah.
• 45:10
  Yeah. You're probably one of the first
• 45:11
  Americans I ever saw in a, in a in like amongst British people.
• 45:15
  Unless you. I was watching Graham Norton on
• 45:18
  TV. Yeah, see.
• 45:19
  Yeah. So initially I was, but, well,
• 45:22
  Terry Gilliam was the first person I saw.
• 45:25
  Oh, OK, yeah. And then it's getting more
• 45:29
  prevalent because of Trump and everything there's a.
• 45:32
  Lot of they will. They will.
• 45:33
  They will kick him on. Yeah.
• 45:35
  Come on. Stop it, man.
• 45:37
  Stop it. Well, to be far, yeah.
• 45:38
  Yeah. I mean, in Norfolk, I grew up on
• 45:40
  a lot of American bases. So like American air bases in
• 45:43
  Norfolk. And there was this like little,
• 45:44
  there was like a little group of houses, like an American estate.
• 45:48
  And on Halloween we'd always go there and they'd if you, if you
• 45:51
  wanted to do like the British St streets, you know, in my town,
• 45:54
  they would just give you like, you know, 1 smarty like.
• 45:58
  They'd give you big. Yeah, yeah.
• 46:00
  It'd be like, so it'd be like suck on me chocolate finger
• 46:02
  dipped it in a nuts and a jar. Yeah, you know, stuff like that.
• 46:05
  But then we went to the American streets.
• 46:06
  I mean, they give you full on cans of Doctor Pepper or
• 46:09
  Mountain Dew Code Red or something.
• 46:10
  You'd get some really cool. Dumping extra Doctor Pepper?
• 46:14
  Yeah, they just give you like full on here's.
• 46:15
  A slice of pizza? Yeah.
• 46:17
  Yeah, they'd be like, here's a fucking, you know, gun that's
• 46:21
  made out of licorice. Here's some razor blades.
• 46:27
  Yeah. Wow.
• 46:30
  Now listen, I don't know if you've seen the pod.
• 46:34
  It's not beef. Yeah, no, it's not beef.
• 46:36
  We do a segment where I give you a sentence that has a blank.
• 46:42
  You have to fill in said blank. OK, cool, let's do.
• 46:46
  It it's called fill in the blank.
• 46:47
  Great. Sounds good.
• 46:49
  You ready? Yeah, I'm ready.
• 46:50
  It doesn't have to be funny. Yeah, that's fine.
• 46:52
  That's fine. The strangest place I've had a
• 46:55
  hair grow out of my body is blank.
• 46:58
  Nipple. Yeah.
• 47:00
  What do you do about that? Why does it have hair in around
• 47:03
  the nipple? Yeah, you got to tweak it out.
• 47:05
  Yeah, you got to tweak it out and get it out and then it gets
• 47:09
  all infected and stuff. And then you find out it is the
• 47:12
  nipple. Yeah, and you're like, that
• 47:14
  isn't a hair, that's it's a bit of my nipple.
• 47:18
  No, that that's a good answer. Remember that blank is the first
• 47:23
  person I'd call if I accidentally killed someone.
• 47:27
  Dylan. What does Dylan do?
• 47:29
  Dylan, Dylan's my friend. I met him at the bus stop.
• 47:32
  Yeah, I met him at the bus stop. He's my friend.
• 47:34
  He's 50 years older than me. Is he part of your gang?
• 47:38
  Yeah, he's part of my gang. Well, we're like a duo, but
• 47:40
  seagulls follow him around. So we have a sort of yeah, yeah.
• 47:44
  They go and he sort of feeds them kebab, but then the RSPCA
• 47:48
  tell them to not do that anymore.
• 47:49
  That's great. But everybody needs a Dylan.
• 47:52
  Everyone needs a Dylan. Yeah, he sort of helps me with
• 47:54
  sort of emotional issues, rage. Oh, so he's like, very wise.
• 48:00
  Yeah, I'm like Karate Kid. And he's like sort of Fagin from
• 48:05
  Oliver Twist, you know? Nice.
• 48:07
  Nice, where's my car? If I were a bird, Blank is the
• 48:13
  one I would be. Pig.
• 48:16
  Just pigeon. Just pigeon.
• 48:18
  Yeah, I like pigeons. They're like flying rats.
• 48:21
  No, they're not. They're like little kittens in
• 48:24
  the sky. Do you know that some people
• 48:27
  race pigeons? Yeah, people race, race them
• 48:30
  like around. And yeah, I read this.
• 48:33
  Article about how it's big money.
• 48:36
  To race a pigeon. To race pigeons, so it's a whole
• 48:38
  industry. Wow.
• 48:40
  Yeah, well, flying, racing, Yeah, on like a strip.
• 48:44
  Well, I don't know if there's a race course, but it's like.
• 48:47
  Wow. Yeah, Hey, I need to get into
• 48:50
  that because maybe it's up and coming.
• 48:51
  I mean, I'm looking to invest. Pigeons.
• 48:54
  Yeah, with all this TikTok money.
• 48:56
  All this TikTok money, I need to put it somewhere, you know?
• 48:58
  I see. I need your projects.
• 49:00
  Yeah. Yeah, if I could only bring one
• 49:03
  film to the zombie apocalypse, right?
• 49:06
  The zombies are there and you've got to go underground, right?
• 49:10
  Yeah, you could bring one film. It would be blank.
• 49:15
  It would be bowling for Columbine.
• 49:19
  Oh, a documentary? Yeah, you'd bring a documentary
• 49:24
  to the. Zombie apocalypse.
• 49:26
  I want to stay aware of the politics, OK?
• 49:30
  I want to learn about things. That's a good documentary.
• 49:33
  But maybe I'd actually bring Matilda.
• 49:37
  Actually, that's better. I like Matilda.
• 49:39
  Man, that's a good film. It's.
• 49:40
  Really good. It's one I.
• 49:42
  Hate being on the spot about your favourite thing.
• 49:45
  Yeah, Matilda's probably one of my go to films.
• 49:47
  There's a happiness about that film.
• 49:49
  Yeah, it's colourful. Danny DeVito.
• 49:52
  He's in that. He's the dad in it.
• 49:54
  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's, he directed it as well.
• 49:56
  He did, Tim mention, wrote the music.
• 50:00
  Yeah, he wrote the music for the musical.
• 50:02
  Yeah, he's great. Yeah, I like him.
• 50:05
  Blank makes me ill every time I see it.
• 50:08
  Not physically ill, but mentally fucking ill.
• 50:16
  Are you a gay? Spanish school trips right?
• 50:20
  I don't like them, I get caught in them all the time.
• 50:23
  What? They're like a spider web of the
• 50:25
  streets. Will you?
• 50:26
  Wind up going with the Spanish school.
• 50:29
  Sometimes they mistake me as a little Spanish kid and I have to
• 50:33
  pretend to speak Spanish. I'm like, oh, you know, I start
• 50:36
  saying things, you know, so. You.
• 50:38
  What is it about that? Well, they're always in groups
• 50:41
  of 200 and they walk around the streets.
• 50:44
  Walking here, I got trapped in one and then you have to get out
• 50:47
  of the web of the Spanish kids and they.
• 50:50
  All like in the city, in the city.
• 50:52
  And they all have. They all have.
• 50:53
  Matching backpacks, you know, orange and yellow and it
• 50:56
  confuses you, all the bright lights of the backpacks and then
• 50:58
  the. School is Spanish or it's a
• 51:00
  Spanish speaking. It's like a it's like a school
• 51:03
  trip of Spanish kids. I don't know, I don't know where
• 51:05
  they come from, but every single day they just seem to just 200
• 51:10
  of them come out of some sort of drain somewhere and they just
• 51:13
  sort of roam around and look at things everywhere.
• 51:15
  And I'm like, what is this is the lamppost, man.
• 51:17
  You don't have to care about it. I'm trying to get to the
• 51:20
  pharmacist, man. I've got itchy balls, bro.
• 51:23
  You can't fucking do this to me. It's ridiculous.
• 51:26
  I want to end the showing something less racist.
• 51:29
  So, OK, you know, I don't know. I'm, I'm a, I'm a liberal man.
• 51:35
  I'm not a, I'm a, I'm a Green Party dude.
• 51:37
  But sometimes a bit of reform seeks into yeah, yeah, yeah, it
• 51:40
  slips out. Sometimes it comes in.
• 51:42
  Hair that comes out of your nipple.
• 51:44
  Yeah, like a bit of Nigel Farage comes out of my nipple, man.
• 51:47
  Oh, out. Dang, get out.
• 51:51
  This is a plug time where you can plug whatever you want to
• 51:55
  plug. Are you doing an upcoming gig?
• 51:58
  Yes, I well, I've got, I'm doing a Swansea that's sold out, but
• 52:02
  I'm doing so I want to brag about that.
• 52:04
  I've just sold out Swansea. Nice.
• 52:07
  Are you touring? No, I'm not touring.
• 52:09
  I'm just sort of dilly dallying around.
• 52:12
  I'm getting shows here and there.
• 52:14
  Are you going to do a tour? Yes, I'll do a tour soon.
• 52:17
  That would be great. Yeah, it would be great.
• 52:20
  It would be great. And hopefully it makes me enough
• 52:23
  money to go to every cemetery in the US that's got a president
• 52:27
  in. I'm I'm going to plug my podcast
• 52:29
  Beef with Isaac. HP is out right now and see.
• 52:33
  Where can I see beef? Beef is on Spotify, it's on
• 52:37
  YouTube, it's on anywhere that you get your podcasts.
• 52:39
  Just like this one. Just like this one.
• 52:42
  Which is the better podcast? No, no, no, it's not a
• 52:46
  competition. Yeah, I know.
• 52:47
  We're all competing with the big boys, Joe Rogan, aren't we?
• 52:49
  Joe? Joe.
• 52:50
  Joe. Is the one.
• 52:52
  He's the, he's big podcast man. He's the Bezos of podcast man.
• 52:57
  Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan, please come.
• 53:00
  Please come, Joe, please come back to me.
• 53:02
  And thank you for coming. Thank you for coming.
• 53:05
  Thank you for having me. Good luck to you.
• 53:07
  Thank you. Good luck to you as well, Rich.
• 53:09
  I love you. That was Isaac HP.
• 53:16
  Listen for him, because he's going to be around for at least
• 53:20
  two months. No, I mean a long time.
• 53:23
  He's a funny guy. And if you want to continue to
• 53:27
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• 53:37
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• 53:57
  now. I'm a squeaky guy.
• 54:15
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