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Queer History Before WWII, An Icon Passes, Headlines & More · Live! with Fefe and Freddy

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  None. Well, I think it's going to be
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  one of those nights here on Live with Vivi and Freddie because
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  Felicia dropped off just a minute ago.
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  Now she's back, but she's obviously.
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  I'm here. And then and then our intro
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  froze on my face for like ever. And like, trying to like looking
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  on the Facebook like it's stuttering and freezing.
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  So yeah, it's going to be one of those evenings.
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  Yay. Can you hear me?
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  Oh, I can hear you. Oh.
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  Wonderful that that's great. So there's a lot of things that
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  that happened. But yeah, you just share a Boo
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  on there. I need a Boo real quick.
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  No, I can do. I can do that.
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  Hold on, hold on. Yeah, 2025 left and 2026 is not
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  very well. What I want to say is welcome to
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  your Wednesday night conversation.
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  This is live with Fifi and Freddie.
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  I am undone. I.
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  Mean that's not the look you were going for.
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  No, no, I don't know. I figure you were just
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  highlighting and. I'll tell you in a minute.
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  And over there, pristine and nice.
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  And I don't, I don't know about that.
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  Has had a challenging week already.
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  Is Freddie Prince Charming Today?
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  We have a pack show. If we can make it through with
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  queer history prior to war War three or war three, we're going
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  war War 2. Don't jump the gun on that one.
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  We're we're a close enough as it is.
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  We don't need, we don't need you jumping the gun.
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  We are the Clear History before anyhow and icon passes.
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  There have been many, many challenges already this year and
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  of on top of things Black History Month, so we'll recap
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  the weekend. I did not put the question I
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  should have put the question. The question I wanted to ask was
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  what black historical figure do you carry with you?
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  And at first I like, I found the question on like another
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  platform. And I thought that is such an
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  interesting question. And I feel like I carry like
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  Michelle Obama. I feel like I carry, like I know
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  she's not a historical figure, but she could be Oprah.
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  And I feel like some of my spirit is like Madam CJ Walker,
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  very like entrepreneurial, very out there.
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  I. Have to think about that 'cause
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  like, I like it. I don't think it's not.
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  There's a lot of. Historical figures.
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  Right. And I think.
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  Like you carry them day-to-day, but like.
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  Right. And I don't think I necessarily
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  think about and I, I, I know this, this sounds like one of
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  those I don't see color things, but that's not it.
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  Like I, I, I think when I, if I think about historical figures
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  or whatever, or, you know, if I'm, you know, they're running
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  around in my head, I don't necessarily think of their race
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  at the, that moment. You know what I mean?
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  Like I don't you, you, you know, so it, I don't know, I have to
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  think about that. I don't know a lot.
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  Of the Let me let me think on that, 'cause I don't, I don't
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  know, like I'm sure that there. Are Malcolm X My Internet was
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  working better than I would show you on the screen the answers to
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  the questions, but I'm not testing anything at this.
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  Point I think, I think I think one person that is always sort
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  of on the the back of my mind, especially these days is MLK
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  junior. But so you know specifically
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  when he said what was the, what was the quote like the, the
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  riots or the the voice of the unheard or something like that.
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  So it's like, like, yes, peaceful protests are good and,
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  and what we should be aiming for, but at some point people
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  are going to have enough, you know, So it's like that's kind
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  of always. We're going to hit there pretty
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  soon, I think. Another civil war, but that's I
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  think that's kind of like him and, and a lot of his, his
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  speeches and and things like that I think are, are often kind
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  of running through my head at at various times, especially right
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  now. Some people said Maya Angelou,
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  Shirley, how do you say her last name?
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  Chisholm. We've talked about her on the
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  show Doctor King and Malcolm X. Some people, this is the thing,
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  I feel like a lot of people, if they're not people of color, are
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  very apologetic for if they, like confuse things or say
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  things that may sound like they could be taken out of context
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  because a couple people like either wrote additional comments
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  like, I'm sorry that I don't know what I'm talking about.
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  Yes, James Baldwin. James.
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  Baldwin is a good one. But I every time I do, he
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  strikes me as a brilliant and and so insightful every time.
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  Yes, What's interesting is sometimes on my YouTube, some of
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  his like interviews, like with is it Johnny Carson?
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  He was on there a couple times. There's another one that I'm
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  like, this is very interesting or maybe I'm confusing people.
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  No, I think it was James Baldwin that was on.
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  There's interviews of him and he's.
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  Probably because he didn't die until the 80s, I want to say.
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  Yeah, and he sounds so. Oh, the spirits must be with us.
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  Oh my God, OK, this is definitely going to be one of
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  those nights because I don't even my connection has been
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  fine. I don't know.
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  It's, I don't know, I don't know.
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  John Lewis was one of Nikki Giovanni.
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  Two people that I'm going to mention later that always come
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  up when I'm talking about queer history are Gladys Bentley and
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  Langston Hughes. They will be coming up later.
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  Hello, Madam Askew. I overestimated my being able to
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  sit in this chair in this corset vest.
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  It's I love this and I never, I never.
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  Got a corset sitting down? It's a corset vest and I didn't
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  think about it 'cause I very rarely wear it sitting.
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  I'm always usually. But do you realize?
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  That or perching. I didn't think about it.
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  And I'm like sitting and it's all like, so I'm like, OK, we're
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  gonna, it's, it's fine. We're just gonna.
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  This evening, ladies and gentlemen, if you hadn't
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  realized, we're falling apart. This is it's, it's you know
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  what? There's at least one episode
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  like this every season. You know, you know, I love a
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  good theme and if we can just stick with it then.
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  You were. We're gonna lean into it.
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  That's what we're gonna do. We're just gonna lean into.
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  It if we can be a into the theme and let's yeah, let's just do it
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  if we're gonna if it's gonna fall on us, do it well, it's
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  gonna. Go hard.
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  don't know how, but I I'm glad that you're enjoying the.
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  The podcast might actually be better because then you don't
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  So you get 2. That's going to be my bad.
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  So yeah, I that I, I don't know. I don't know what happened.
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  It was a it was a busy weekend and then this week has been a
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  little difficult, which I will get to later, but yeah, that
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  that was like, so I, I apologize for that.
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  That is completely on me and I and you'll get like a 2 for one
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  this week. That's not fun.
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  Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. We want to thank Bill who is in
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  Bill, Brandon, Cassandra, Chris and Michelle D, Drake, Jensen
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  Askew and the Grand Arbiter. Hey, Nicole, Patricia, Mason and
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  Shannon. I'm jealous Shannon went on
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  vacation. I know I'm like.
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  I could have fit in one of your bags, I promise.
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  I like a seat though. I like a seat.
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  Yeah. I haven't heard.
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  Has the assigned seating worked well on Southwest now?
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  I haven't flown Southwest since they changed all their shit
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  'cause it's not just the assigned seating.
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  Now they've got like, your bags aren't free anymore and all that
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  other shit. So what?
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  Yeah, yeah, that was like the big, that was the big thing,
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  like assigned seating. OK, whatever it was the the
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  baggage that they changed along with it.
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  Now they're now your bags. Ever again.
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  That was the right thing. Yeah, that was like, that was
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  that was their biggest fucking selling point.
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  Biggest fucking selling point. And they got rid of it.
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  I'm like, are you stupid? Wow.
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  Yeah. So I'm not sure how things are
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  going there. I'm noticing like.
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  People are like everybody then. But it's like, I think people
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  are are. Like they're paying the baggage
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  fees then? Right.
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  And if they're, I think if people, I think I don't know if
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  Southwest cause Southwest is only domestic, they don't fly
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  international. So like, if it were, if it were
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  me, I would like, if, you know, a lot of people have like credit
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  cards for travel and stuff because of miles and points and
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  whatever, like with them changing all that shit.
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  And like of all, if I have to go through all of that, then I will
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  get like a credit card that gives me points on an airline
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  that flies international, you know what I mean?
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  So that I'm not, you know, so it's like I, I have right?
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  Because that that to me would make more sense.
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  But I see a button. I'm gonna press a button real
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  quick. I wanna see oh.
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  What is? What is that?
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  Oh. Oh, that's new.
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  When did that happen? Oh, what is the OK, you can
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  change the color of it too. Oh, when did they do put this
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  in? Oh oh oh, when did this change?
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  We're changing things. Sorry, it's I.
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  We we discovered a new thing because apparently this stream
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  it puts the newest comment at the top, not at the bottom.
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  Can we change that? Maybe.
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  I don't know. Did I?
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  Yeah, I did. Yes, there we go.
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  That makes more sense because yes, that's correct.
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  All right, look at that. Something new ta da.
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  Wow. OK, why did they always change
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  things and not tell us? They had a webinar, remember I
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  told you they had a webinar like last week And I was like, I
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  started to watch it, but then I was like.
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  Oops anyway. A huge thanks to Wigs of a Kind
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  That I will take like donations of pet food.
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  We are streaming on the YouTube. Yes, yes, YouTube, Facebook and
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  Twitch. All the things.
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  This is fun. OK, this is very exciting.
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  I just got to make sure that the comments stay.
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  Well, we just kind of keep it. Now we can like, we don't have
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  to switch like we do this and the comments can be up there and
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  everybody can see the comments and then we can like look at
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  other things. What happens if I press a
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  comment like? Oh, God, I don't know.
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  I don't know, you know. Oh.
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  Oh, that seems like a lot. Then that's like that, I mean.
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  Have either of you performed outside?
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  Do you not know who I am? The answer is yes for both of
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  us, but yes, most definitely for him.
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  Oh, for those on the podcast, Bill asked.
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  Have you ever performed outside of the American Southwest?
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  I have. I have pretty much from coast to
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  coast actually. You know one place I would love
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  to have you performed in New York.
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  I have not performed in New York, but I have performed a few
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  places on the West Coast and Florida, which still counts as
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  East Coast so. I performed in Florida.
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  Madam Askew is bouncing all over trying to find whichever one
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  works best. I mean, does that make our
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  numbers go up? Can you keep more than one tab?
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  Open, right? Just can you have all the things
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  open? That's that's fine.
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  Just meet one of them. No, we've, we've both, we've
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  both travelled quite a bit and when I had my, I had my national
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  title, I was able to three. Years.
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  When they had state prelims, I was travelling all over the
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  place. I've so I've been, I've been all
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  over, I've been all over. I actually miss travelling for
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  drag. I haven't travelled in a hot
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  minute so but. We had like life take over.
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  I know, I know all the things. If anybody's booking, if
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  anybody. 'S booking Anybody wants to fly
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  us out? Fly me out.
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  I can do the things, you know. Immediately he just went to him
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  I. Don't.
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  Know if I I'm in a computer? From switching keeping all the.
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  The things. How was your weekend?
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  My weekend was good. I think it was.
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  It was a little bit surprising to me how it kind of flowed
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  cause things especially with younger children can go upside
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  down immediately but they did not.
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  Thursday I had Queen of Hearts drag bingo.
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  It was a small intimate crowd, but I encourage folks to buy
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  their tickets for next month, which is on March 12th.
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  Celebrated a birthday for a mom that had we called them a
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  spectrum of children that are in the LGBTQ plus range.
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  And they were, they all had just a tiny bit of character.
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  That's all I'll say. They were hilarious because they
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  did the infamous thing where I warn every, you know, we warn
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  people about like you need to be paying attention.
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  You need to know the shape, you need to know if it's blackout.
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  They fit all of those bills right away.
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  Right away calling bingo during a blackout.
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  Oh my God. Doing, doing, doing the most,
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  let's say, Oh Lord, seemed to be the winning table.
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  That and another table. Oh, the thing moved.
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  Oh, you must have like pressed something.
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  I did it. Was bothering me because it was
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  like the the the header was like on one.
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  Page Oh, it wasn't on the same page so.
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  So somebody gave me this a couple weekends ago.
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  Oh, that's cute. And the mom saw that I was
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  wearing it says you are safe with me.
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  That's what it says, I think. Dee has that same.
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  Pin. Yeah, somebody gave it to me.
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  I don't know how to show you this, but great.
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  That's what it says. And then she goes, you need this
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  pin to go with it. She gives me a Tinker Bell pen
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  that has like rainbow. Oh, that's fun.
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  That's like my my rainbow Millennium Falcon Disney pen
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  that is like the the trail behind it is rainbow.
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  I was like, that's so sweet. You don't even know.
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  You don't even know me. So she's like, what?
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  She goes, well, if you can't wear the one that says you are
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  safe with me, you can definitely wear the Tinkerbell 1.
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  And I was like, huh, what about that?
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  It's like that, that sort of subtle flagging that we've
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  talked about where you just have like that one little thing that
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  indicates that you're safe, you know, because people that are
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  looking for it will see it, you know?
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  Yeah, if you're out in public, wear the pen, Madame Masque,
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  'cause then that's like us supporting each other without
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  the others gnawing. And then Sunday, so left drag
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  bingo feeling very full because that was even though it was a
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  small intimate crowd, it was still enough to fill the cup.
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  Sunday we decided to go to the run fair.
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  Yes, you invited us. And I, I was like, I'm taking a
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  chance. He may not get this, but
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  whatever. So I ran into like everybody but
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  but. I saw Brandon at some point, I
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  saw a couple other people and I was like, this is so weird and I
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  didn't know whether to like call you because you hadn't answered
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  my texts. So I don't I.
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  Don't know reception out there is so sketchy.
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  Like sometimes things work all the time and then sometimes they
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  don't work at all. It yeah.
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  And so then I was I was like, we're going to bump into each
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  other. Nope.
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  Walked around the whole place. We we were probably like.
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  Doing I think I saw your son at one point with his girlfriend.
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  Mikey came. Mikey was supposed to be there.
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  He showed up late. They didn't get there until
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  like, I don't know, like right right around the joust, which
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  was 230. Oh, well, that would have been
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  around the time I think I saw him, but he was like in a hurry.
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  So I was like, OK, bye. Yeah, he was probably hustling
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  to get to the joust. That's what I'm guessing.
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  Oh, anyhow, so little kids don't sit long enough to yeah, to
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  uphold that. So it was fun and the kids
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  enjoyed it, except for one of my kiddos doesn't like to walk for
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  a long period of time and I'm like, I'm not taking you to the
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  Disneyland if you cannot walk around this.
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  Place. Yeah.
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  No, no. Yeah, if you can't walk around
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  this place. Two perfectly capable feet.
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  You are walking. Yeah, I was like, no, no, we're
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  not doing that. And Monday I was home with a a
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  kiddo, but one had to go to school.
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  Did I understand that? I didn't, but I was OK with it
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  considering who our president is.
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  So whenever also President's Day was on and popping on social
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  media with the photos of President Obama and Michelle
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  Obama, I love that we're like protesting on social media.
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  I love that shit so much 'cause you know that every time
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  something like that gets posted, he just gets mad and probably
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  throws things and throws A tantrum and just gets annoyed.
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  And I love that for him. I do.
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  I love that for him. Yeah, and I was telling people
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  like happy, remember when Obama was president day.
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  I did not tell you that because I.
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  You did actually something you did actually.
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  Oh, did I? Oh, well, that must have been
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  before I saw what I saw. You're going to talk about it
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  anyway. What was surprising to me was
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  that I sat in front of the TV and paid attention.
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  To it. That's rough for me these days.
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  If you know me, I don't really like watch TV right 'cause I
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  whatever is happening is happening.
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  So that doesn't really. So I watched TV this week, which
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  doesn't really happen to me. First show that I was so excited
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  to text Freddie at the middle of the night and say what
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  basically, what are you doing? What are you watching?
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  And because I want you to watch this, but so a reboot of the
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  1989 movie The Burbs. Which I love the movie.
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  I think the movie is fantastic. So I will tell you that I did
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  not see the movie first. I started watching the show 1st
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  and then I got curious because it is also on Peacock and I was
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  like, OK, I need to know. I'm one of those people that's
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  like, I need to see the original first.
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  It's it's. Kind of get like.
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  It's one of those like it's, it's one of those movies that
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  kind of tends to fly under the radar.
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  Like when you think of Tom Hanks or Carrie Fisher, you don't
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  think the burbs. You know what I mean?
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  It's it's like it's kind of one of those.
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  Or when. They say their names, they don't
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  say like starring in the birds. It's like it's one of those sort
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  of it's one of those movies that I think has kind of gained A
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  cult following over the years. Like it's one of those like kind
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  of underground kind of things that you, you, you most people,
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  if you were going to be like, Oh yeah, you know, what's your
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  favorite Tom Hanks movie? No one's going to say the Burbs
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  because no one ever thinks of the burbs but I.
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  Love it cause a lot of like 80 stars in there.
• 26:41
  It's the the cast, it's fantastic, like it really is,
• 26:45
  but nobody ever thinks. About the burbs, I was like what
• 26:51
  the fuck is the burbs? I had never heard of this and so
• 26:57
  had to watch the movie 'cause I started the show.
• 27:01
  What I like about this reboot is that what I So let me tell you
• 27:08
  what the first problem is about reboots.
• 27:11
  The problem I think that I have with reboots is that it feels
• 27:13
  like they just went to the Xerox machine and they just said we're
• 27:18
  going to put new actors in the place and copy the script.
• 27:22
  That's how I feel about like all this live action bullshit that
• 27:25
  Disney keeps coming out with. It's nothing.
• 27:27
  They're not doing anything. They're basically doing a frame
• 27:29
  by frame copy of this thing with CGI animals.
• 27:32
  And like a person, I'm like, yeah, gives me nothing.
• 27:37
  And you're like what? So should I watch the same
• 27:41
  movie? Right.
• 27:43
  Well. It's nothing new.
• 27:45
  It's nothing. There's nothing that's like, Oh
• 27:46
  yeah. But I wish they did.
• 27:48
  I wish they did though. I wish they added something or
• 27:51
  took something out or put a plot twist in so that I'm like, oh
• 27:56
  wow. Interesting.
• 27:58
  So I was not looking for this show but then I'm such a fan of
• 28:05
  Keke Palmer and I love how she has grown up and handles herself
• 28:10
  and all this jazz and plus she got me through 2020 quite a bit
• 28:16
  with her like self tape acting things and as a talented person.
• 28:24
  So it stars her and Jack Whitehall and it's based off the
• 28:30
  movie, but like gives a modern twist and gives like a, like,
• 28:38
  takes it a little bit further, I think.
• 28:42
  And this made me feel like, especially after I watched the
• 28:45
  original, that I'm like, OK, this is not a.
• 28:48
  Copyright We haven't watched it yet, but when I saw that it was
• 28:52
  coming, I made my partner sit down and watch the preview
• 28:55
  'cause I'm like, Oh my God, this looks really good.
• 28:58
  Like because and it, it, they, they, they modernized it, they
• 29:02
  gave it, you know, a 2026 kind of feel without it being like
• 29:07
  stuck in the 80s kind of thing. So they, you know, that modern
• 29:10
  looks like sounds looks like, you know, modern jokes modern,
• 29:13
  you know what I mean? All the stuff that that makes
• 29:16
  sense for today and I don't know, are live actors cheaper
• 29:21
  than animation and voice actors? No, actually it's more expensive
• 29:25
  to make animation and it takes longer, right?
• 29:28
  Like you would think. Because you have to, you have to
• 29:32
  pay the animators and their teams, right?
• 29:36
  And then you have to, you have to pay the voice actors.
• 29:43
  And then they once you do the voice acting, they have to go
• 29:47
  and like readjust some of the scenes because sometimes the
• 29:51
  actor doesn't. It doesn't match up.
• 29:54
  With the right. With the with the animation.
• 29:56
  Have I seen Kiki's episode of hot ones?
• 30:00
  No, I have. I'm she?
• 30:03
  Yes, I think I have because she was on there with is this Sousa
• 30:11
  and they start talking about some BS on there.
• 30:14
  Is that the right one? Is that the one you're referring
• 30:16
  to 'cause if that's the one, deny it.
• 30:21
  Yes, maybe, maybe. So anyway, that wasn't the only
• 30:26
  thing that I watched. So I finished the burbs and I I
• 30:31
  don't know what I needed to cure this small bit of addiction that
• 30:34
  was happening while it was happening 'cause I was like, I
• 30:36
  never watch anything. So I kept seeing on Instagram
• 30:44
  the Netflix release of the. America's Next Top Model.
• 30:50
  I watch that too. Oh my God what a fucking train
• 30:54
  wreck. So tell me, tell me, tell me,
• 30:56
  tell me, tell me, Tyra. OK, so you know, OK, I, I, I
• 31:03
  don't want to spoil thing. I mean, I, I think everybody
• 31:05
  kind of pretty much. Knows, I know, let's not spoil
• 31:07
  it for everyone. Spoils, but OK, so after all of
• 31:11
  that, did you hear that she's trying to bring it back now?
• 31:16
  Oh, is she? Yeah, she wants to bring back a
• 31:19
  new America's Next Top Model. I'm like, girl, are you fucking
• 31:22
  crazy? You just shot yourself in the
• 31:24
  foot. OK, so do you realize she was so
• 31:32
  unapologetic? Oh, it was awful.
• 31:35
  Oh my God, the like, the smugness of it all the like.
• 31:39
  Well, I mean, and when somebody. Said something, and sometimes we
• 31:46
  have to do things that were. See fucking cycle 25.
• 31:50
  She wants to bring back cycle 25.
• 31:51
  Are you fucking stupid? Who in their right mind is going
• 31:56
  to be like, yes, this sounds like a great idea, let's do this
• 31:58
  And who in their right mind? Is like is that an excited but I
• 32:04
  hope that they treat them better.
• 32:07
  Watch the documentary. Oh my God it it left so many
• 32:13
  awful. And I used to.
• 32:15
  Watch America. 'S Next Top Model, like I
• 32:17
  remember watching it back in the day, like right when it first
• 32:19
  started coming out, like I and I remember even watching some of
• 32:24
  these challenges going the fuck? Especially there are some people
• 32:30
  that spoke up. Yeah.
• 32:33
  And for some of these things, they.
• 32:37
  I'm just going to say she did these models dirty.
• 32:42
  The mentorship that she promised, like the all the
• 32:47
  things that were supposed, like all the doors and stuff that
• 32:50
  were supposed to be opened, all the things that were supposed to
• 32:53
  be happening for these people. The winner of of of the thing it
• 32:57
  fucking awful. And I heard that there's another
• 33:01
  documentary that's. Coming out.
• 33:03
  That that. Oh, which yes, which you know,
• 33:07
  this one, this one seemed like almost like a fluff piece that
• 33:11
  it seemed like, like Tyra wanted to come on and try and redeem
• 33:14
  herself and try and be like, well, you know, I mean, it was
• 33:18
  the early two 2000s and things were different back then.
• 33:23
  And La, La, La, La, la, like, Oh my God, it was, it was totally
• 33:29
  like Tyra trying to redeem herself.
• 33:32
  And it didn't work very well at all.
• 33:35
  She stuck her foot in it like, Oh my God, it was so bad, so
• 33:40
  bad. And I didn't know about Miss J
• 33:43
  either, so. They kept it a secret.
• 33:51
  Didn't say anything. So Miss Jay ended up having a
• 33:54
  stroke in 2022. I had no idea.
• 33:57
  No idea. And he's still in a wheelchair,
• 34:01
  like. Crazy.
• 34:05
  OK, so to equate this to there's some things in there that made
• 34:12
  me feel human to human will never happen from me if I decide
• 34:23
  to do something else like say goodbye to this or you decide to
• 34:29
  say goodbye to this because at 1.1 of the folks wanted to say
• 34:36
  goodbye and got silence and was told that they just need to
• 34:43
  return to the show to full fulfill their contract.
• 34:48
  Tyra. These are like lifelong friends
• 34:52
  with Tyra. Yeah.
• 34:54
  She hasn't been in contact with she hasn't been in contact with
• 34:58
  them. She has a she didn't go to visit
• 35:03
  Miss Jay. That part like.
• 35:06
  This and that that just goes to show that she got a like a
• 35:09
  little taste of fame and it went straight to her fucking head and
• 35:14
  she didn't care about any like you.
• 35:15
  You got y'all need to watch it it's on Netflix, and I swear to
• 35:18
  God you're gonna be sitting there and if you're anything
• 35:20
  like me, you're gonna look for a shoe that you can throw at the
• 35:23
  TV because it is so like and it. Was just so hot.
• 35:31
  I didn't feel it was. I didn't feel anything for Tyra.
• 35:34
  I didn't feel anything for Tyra, I felt.
• 35:37
  For her whatsoever. And then like there's a couple
• 35:40
  times when she brought back some of the alums and some of them
• 35:44
  said explicitly, I don't want to see this footage, don't put this
• 35:48
  footage on there. And what does she do?
• 35:50
  She had the footage. There's some shit that like it
• 35:55
  was so not OK. Like even for a reality TV it
• 36:00
  was not OK like y'all. At work.
• 36:03
  Like just on top of Oh my God it was so bad, but I.
• 36:07
  Want to see the one on E? 'Cause you know, if they do it
• 36:10
  on it's America's Next Top Model, the documentary.
• 36:13
  I don't know, I don't know it's. On it's on Netflix, that's all.
• 36:20
  It's on Netflix. It's going to be like on the
• 36:22
  like new like if you look at the like if.
• 36:25
  You look, it is trending hardcore right now.
• 36:27
  Right. Like it's going to be like #1 or
• 36:29
  #2 on there, like top 10 or whatever the fuck it.
• 36:31
  Like it, it is, it is a train wreck from start to finish.
• 36:38
  It's it's it, it's but yeah, but you know, the one on east,
• 36:45
  they're gonna go in harder and they're gonna be like, oh, no,
• 36:47
  we're not gonna fluff this. This is not gonna.
• 36:49
  Be a fluffy little on some of those girls are on both of them
• 36:57
  so I. Wonder.
• 36:58
  Oh, I'm sure. Oh, I'm sure.
• 37:00
  If the I wonder if the harshness is going to because Tyra was the
• 37:08
  executive producer. Right.
• 37:10
  So she didn't. She was like, she wanted us to
• 37:12
  be like, no, no it. Was fine.
• 37:14
  She wants us to be like a star search moment and be like.
• 37:18
  And I'm. Sorry guys, because I.
• 37:19
  Want to bring that? Look, I was.
• 37:20
  It was. I'm really sorry for all of
• 37:23
  these things. So let's do cycle 25, yeah?
• 37:27
  Well, that's somebody saying like, let's make more money out
• 37:31
  of this. Like I get that there wasn't
• 37:35
  like social media and shit, but it was still like Jesus.
• 37:38
  Like there were some things that were decidedly not OK.
• 37:46
  I can't. There you go.
• 37:47
  Reality check America's Next Top Model Inside America's Next Top
• 37:51
  Model. That's what it is Like, Yeah, it
• 37:56
  was. It was a hot mess, train wreck
• 37:58
  from start to finish, like. Gabe, what are you saying?
• 38:02
  I'm not that I'm defending this, but remember back then there
• 38:06
  wasn't any social medias today and everybody was based on
• 38:10
  everything was based on race. Yes, but also like treat people
• 38:16
  with humanity. There's a little bit of element.
• 38:20
  Brian like there were still. I will say I don't know all the
• 38:23
  elements of entertainment, but I do know what I do know about
• 38:29
  what I can see from. Right.
• 38:32
  My point of view from entertainment is that there are
• 38:35
  things that sometimes you can that don't have to live in a
• 38:39
  contract or that don't have to live.
• 38:41
  There were some things that Tyra did that, especially as a black.
• 38:46
  Woman like. Should have known better.
• 38:49
  Like her not still putting the footage in of like the male that
• 38:56
  was inappropriately touching the female model that spoke up for
• 39:00
  herself. Oh.
• 39:01
  You mean the one that was sexually assaulted that then was
• 39:05
  made to call her boyfriend on camera?
• 39:09
  Well, that one too. Or the other one.
• 39:11
  The other one where blatantly they're all sitting there.
• 39:14
  That's where I can't really forgive J Manuel is that I'm
• 39:19
  like, no, no, you as a man. Oh, that one, yeah.
• 39:22
  That that was like. Should be like hey bro cut it
• 39:26
  back a notch. No, we were just doing what we
• 39:30
  were told it makes. Good TV.
• 39:32
  There's a Yeah, it it's, it's. Like where's your morals and
• 39:38
  your values? Like does that happen?
• 39:41
  I I have a feeling that the other documentary, when it comes
• 39:45
  out, is probably going to dive more into some of those things
• 39:48
  because this was such a fluff piece for Tyra that things were
• 39:55
  almost kind of skimmed over. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that
• 39:57
  happened. But it it it's fine.
• 40:01
  And the girl that she yelled at, that was, that was a cultural
• 40:06
  moment. But also you get the behind now
• 40:11
  you know the story and you're like, wait a minute.
• 40:14
  Yeah, like I said, it's it's there were some things,
• 40:17
  especially as a black woman, Tyra should have known better on
• 40:23
  so many things. Like what the fuck?
• 40:25
  But yeah, if if you if you. I do also want to let.
• 40:30
  You all know, for the train wreck documentaries, I'm like,
• 40:32
  I, I watch like all of them. I watch all the documentaries
• 40:35
  because that's the. So if you're into that sort of
• 40:38
  thing, go watch it. If you're not into that sort of
• 40:40
  thing, don't watch it because it is a hot fucking mess.
• 40:42
  The one on east comes out March 11th.
• 40:44
  I think I have it on my calendar somewhere.
• 40:46
  Oh God, Janice Dickinson is a bitch.
• 40:50
  She lives. She.
• 40:51
  Always has been, always has been she.
• 40:55
  Even before the show. Like everything that she's ever
• 40:58
  done, it before the show, after the show, anything she's ever
• 41:01
  done, she's a fucking cunt. Like she really is.
• 41:03
  Like she has very few redeeming qualities.
• 41:08
  So the thought that I had was so many of the things that are
• 41:13
  happening on America's Next Top Model to me mimic what is
• 41:22
  happening in RuPaul's Drag Race. To me, that makes sense.
• 41:26
  Yeah, that I don't and. I think at one point RuPaul,
• 41:30
  RuPaul says that well, but what I'm saying is that I feel like
• 41:39
  there's going to many people have posted online, they can't
• 41:42
  wait to see what has happened behind the scenes for Dragula,
• 41:47
  RuPaul's Drag Race. You know, those things are gonna
• 41:49
  be coming at some point because people are gonna.
• 41:52
  I remember when we were interviewing folks from the show
• 41:56
  in the early days that they were saying it's not what you see is
• 42:03
  what you. Give Oh, for sure I can.
• 42:07
  I can only imagine the shit that happens in those and it like the
• 42:11
  people that you know, either they're like they either their
• 42:16
  NDA ran out or whatever. And people have been saying like
• 42:18
  you've been hearing whispers of things for years.
• 42:20
  I know that especially like on Dragula and some of the shit
• 42:23
  that they make people do like it's, it's yeah, it's those will
• 42:29
  be interesting when those come out.
• 42:31
  Those I'll watch. I don't give a fuck about either
• 42:33
  one of the shows, but those I'll watch the documentaries whenever
• 42:35
  they come out. But yeah, so that was my
• 42:43
  interesting weekend 'cause I was like, I never watch TV, but then
• 42:49
  I was like, what is that? And I was like, OK, I gotta go
• 42:54
  watch it, but I have to go watch it.
• 42:57
  So I'm sorry that we took up 30 minutes.
• 43:03
  That's fine it it needed to be said.
• 43:04
  We didn't even. It never happens though, right?
• 43:08
  Yes, please do. So Sunday was good.
• 43:12
  Was it the Ren Fair? It was Pride Day at the Ren
• 43:15
  Fair, where they always do like a Pride costume contest.
• 43:17
  Yeah. Is that why there was so many
• 43:19
  gay people? Yes, that's what they always do,
• 43:22
  like a Pride costume contest, which we we myself, Justin Cider
• 43:27
  and Ben Havoc were there. We we've been there the last few
• 43:30
  years on the Pride Day, they asked us to come judge the
• 43:32
  costume contest and things. And then we always get to attend
• 43:35
  the joust up on the dais with, you know, with everybody.
• 43:38
  So up at the with the with royalty and stuff are up there.
• 43:42
  That was always, that was a good time.
• 43:45
  And then my week got a little trickier.
• 43:49
  I won't dwell too much, but this is part of why, like things are
• 43:52
  a little hectic for me and stuff today.
• 43:54
  So Monday I end up having to say goodbye to my cat Paisley, who
• 44:00
  I've had since 2015. I've had her since she was a
• 44:02
  kitten. It's always one of the, the
• 44:06
  hardest decisions to make when you have pets is when their,
• 44:13
  their quality of life starts to decline.
• 44:19
  I think that the hardest, but best decision that we can make
• 44:24
  is to be able to let them go. And we, oh, it's, it's I, I
• 44:32
  can't even tell you how many times I've had to do it over the
• 44:34
  years, like with fostering and you know, like, like I lost
• 44:39
  Bruce a couple years ago. We were taking him to the vet.
• 44:44
  He didn't make it. You know, London passed at the
• 44:46
  vet, which was a couple years before that.
• 44:49
  But like she, she was never quite the same.
• 44:53
  She was so bonded to London that after we lost London, she kind
• 44:58
  of self exiled herself to the backroom.
• 45:01
  Like she could always, I mean, she, she had free reign of the
• 45:05
  house, but she just, she wanted to, she just, she stayed back
• 45:10
  there, you know, And it was that, you know, she was very
• 45:13
  shy, very sweet. She's my cupboard Kitty.
• 45:16
  But we took her in last week because over the last over the
• 45:20
  last week prior, we noticed a drastic weight change like.
• 45:24
  She. She dropped a lot of weight,
• 45:28
  like she was so skinny. And it was finally the point
• 45:32
  where like the, you know, it was, it was noticeable.
• 45:35
  So the guy we got to take her in, get blood work.
• 45:39
  And on Friday we found out that it was there were, we are still
• 45:47
  waiting for other tests or for other results to come in.
• 45:49
  But we found out for sure that there was kidney disease and we
• 45:56
  were going to, you know, we were waiting for the other tests
• 45:58
  because they were testing for leukemia and a few other things.
• 46:04
  There were elevated white blood cells and, and things.
• 46:07
  And we knew though, that that with the kidney disease that
• 46:11
  regardless of what the other results were, the end result was
• 46:19
  probably going to be the same because you can't cure kidney
• 46:25
  disease. You know what I mean?
• 46:26
  Like, you can't, especially with her being older and so skinny
• 46:30
  and, and it was just not, not good.
• 46:35
  The vet called Monday earlier in the afternoon and ran, you know,
• 46:44
  got more results back. And with the elevated white
• 46:47
  blood cell count, they were sure it was either going to be
• 46:52
  leukemia or lymphoma. Yeah, but they would have had to
• 46:59
  do more specific tests. But it was going to be one of
• 47:04
  those two for sure. And with one of either one of
• 47:08
  those, you know what I mean, Like.
• 47:12
  Or Bill, Bill, Bill says kidney and thyroid issues are so common
• 47:17
  in cats. Why is that?
• 47:19
  Part of it is water. Cats are really bad at drinking
• 47:23
  enough water and being hydrated. Yeah.
• 47:27
  So even with water constantly there.
• 47:30
  So that's why a lot of folks, depending on whether or not you
• 47:32
  see your cats drinking enough throughout the day, they have
• 47:36
  they have treats, wet food, things like that, that can
• 47:38
  actually help hydrate them as well, because cats are really
• 47:40
  bad at drinking enough water, like a lot of people.
• 47:44
  But that was that was we knew with that, that we knew what we
• 47:52
  had to do. And, you know, he was like, we
• 47:56
  have time today, or we can do it tomorrow or the day after.
• 47:59
  And we're like, we're not going to draw this out, you know.
• 48:04
  And I think she had already known.
• 48:06
  She she, I think she knew. She was so calm and so quiet.
• 48:13
  And, you know, it's what, what we had to do.
• 48:17
  And we're sitting there and, you know, the, the, the vet tech
• 48:23
  comes in and gets us checked in and everything and, and you
• 48:26
  know, she's like, do you want to be in here the whole time?
• 48:28
  And I'm like, abso fucking lutely.
• 48:30
  I am like, and you know, 'cause we, we, we both know people that
• 48:36
  have just been like, no, I, I can't possibly just, you know,
• 48:38
  and I'm like, why would you just leave your pet in this strange
• 48:42
  place? Like no, like that's.
• 48:44
  I feel like there's some people that can't handle it.
• 48:47
  You know what? There are tough shit, Tough
• 48:50
  shit. This is what you signed up for.
• 48:53
  You know what I mean? I can't handle this shit.
• 48:56
  I'm I was a fucking mess all fucking day.
• 48:58
  Like I was a fucking mess all day after that, like it was
• 49:03
  before or after. Like Michaela kept coming out of
• 49:05
  the room. She's like, are you OK?
• 49:06
  And I'm like bawling my eyes out.
• 49:09
  I'm sitting on the couch like, I can't handle this, but I'm not
• 49:13
  going to let my pet who I signed up like to care for lived their
• 49:19
  last moments with strangers. You know what I mean?
• 49:24
  Like, no, you've been with me for more than a decade.
• 49:27
  I'm going to sit here and, like, cry all over you while you go
• 49:34
  because that is the least that I could do for this animal.
• 49:37
  You know? It's like, you know.
• 49:38
  So that made Monday a little rough and then Tuesday my poor
• 49:44
  partner ended up getting sick. So she she came home and she
• 49:53
  she's been miserable for two days now and she never gets
• 49:57
  sick. She did test positive for Flu A.
• 50:00
  So I'm like, I love you. Is that the new one or is that
• 50:04
  the? I don't.
• 50:05
  Fucking. Know where I'm like, we're at
• 50:07
  like flu 436.5 at this point. I don't, I don't even know.
• 50:13
  But she's miserable. She's not, does not feel good.
• 50:17
  Like she called out of work today, she called out of work
• 50:19
  tomorrow, which she doesn't usually do.
• 50:21
  So I know she's not feeling well.
• 50:22
  So she's been holed up on the couch like sleeping off and on
• 50:28
  like over in the corner. And I'm like way over here on
• 50:30
  the side. I'm like, here, let me make you
• 50:31
  tea, you know? I don't throw the tea at her.
• 50:36
  Oh, absolutely. I'm just going to Chuck it at
• 50:37
  her and be like here, whatever gets on you, I'm sorry,
• 50:39
  whatever. I'm like, stay over there.
• 50:42
  You know, I'm like here, I'll I'll I'll let me feed you soup.
• 50:46
  I mean stretch out like I have a like, you know, a yard stick
• 50:48
  with a spoon on the end of it. Just look it up you.
• 50:52
  Know but so I feel for you. So yeah, it's it's kind of
• 50:57
  sucky. So it's been a not a great week
• 51:00
  here, but that's OK. All right.
• 51:05
  We're going to go ahead and move along to my tip, which isn't
• 51:09
  really a tip. It's more of AI don't know an
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  infomercial. Should I dare press the button?
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  You can try. Go ahead, see what happens.
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  If the show goes off the air, folks have it, we'll try.
• 51:38
  That doesn't stutter, just our intro stutters I.
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  Haven't. We need to look at the video
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  itself and we need to like re upload it.
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  We need to re upload it. So I was, I have no idea what I
• 51:52
  was doing. I was doing something on the
• 51:55
  interweb. It's usually a good thing.
• 51:57
  I know and something about like the, I think the pink triangle
• 52:02
  or something came up and I was like, you know what, I'm going
• 52:05
  to do something different for my tip.
• 52:06
  And we're going to talk a little bit about like modern queer
• 52:12
  history prior to World War 2. And I'm talking about because
• 52:19
  it's, I think it's rarely talked about.
• 52:21
  We talk about how like queer and trans folks and stuff like how
• 52:26
  people have always been here, right?
• 52:28
  We talk about, we've talked about I think ancient
• 52:32
  civilizations and you know, how a lot of ancient civilizations
• 52:38
  recognized, you know, 3rd, 4th, 5th genders, different things
• 52:41
  like that. You know, whatever we talk
• 52:43
  about, you know, Stonewall and, and the things leading up to
• 52:47
  sort of what we consider modern gay pride, but we, I don't think
• 52:54
  we've ever really talked about sort of that period in between
• 52:59
  that really kind of opened the door for modern queer history.
• 53:07
  You know, the, our really recent, recent, recent, recent
• 53:10
  history. But, you know, 'cause after
• 53:14
  World War 2, everything, that's, that's when things kind of
• 53:20
  started going, you know, and we ended up with the, you know, the
• 53:23
  gay rights movement and all this stuff.
• 53:25
  So I'm like, well, why don't we talk a little bit about sort of
• 53:29
  the late 1800s up to about World War 2:00-ish so that, you know,
• 53:36
  there's things that are, I think people.
• 53:39
  Don't really. People don't really think about,
• 53:43
  you know, leading up to Stonewall, you know, the, the
• 53:47
  AIDS crisis and and stuff like that.
• 53:48
  So we're gonna, it'll be a little bit of a jumping around.
• 53:53
  I was trying to keep things in like chronological order when I
• 53:56
  was putting this together, and it didn't always.
• 53:59
  Worked out very well for you. It's it's close enough, so just
• 54:05
  deal with it. So one of the sort of key things
• 54:10
  that that happened in the late 1800s was in 1895, Oscar Wilde
• 54:15
  was put on trial for gross indecency, which really he was,
• 54:22
  it kind of brought to the surface the existence of gay
• 54:26
  subcultures and it kind of shown a, a harsh light on, on things
• 54:31
  like public scandal and legal persecution.
• 54:35
  You know, I think that a lot of folks don't even realize that
• 54:40
  Oscar Wilde spent two years in prison doing hard labor for
• 54:44
  this. Like it was, it was, it was
• 54:49
  intense. And up until then it was one of
• 54:51
  those things where I think, you know, the, you know, British
• 54:58
  society, you, you knew it existed, you know, people knew
• 55:04
  that there was a sort of untalked about sort of, you
• 55:08
  know, subculture, whatever. But.
• 55:11
  We were on. That was The thing is that it
• 55:13
  didn't really talk about it because homosexuality was
• 55:17
  criminalized in Britain time. So it was one of those unspoken
• 55:22
  things. So that was one of the sort of
• 55:26
  the first like, hey, look, there's queers out there kind of
• 55:29
  thing. And open the doors for the
• 55:32
  public scandal, the legal persecution, all that good
• 55:34
  stuff. You know what I was thinking the
• 55:38
  other day is when did queerness become so 'cause you know, we've
• 55:45
  talked about how it existed in pre modern times like you said,
• 55:51
  like when did it become so shameful in taboo?
• 55:56
  That a lot of that actually happened with the the Nazis and
• 56:01
  all that good stuff because it's it's always been taboo here and
• 56:10
  a lot of other places. But OK, so let me.
• 56:14
  I'm sorry to take you off course, but.
• 56:16
  That's fine. OK, So I, I will kind of you'll,
• 56:18
  you'll see where things kind of shifted a little bit.
• 56:19
  So in the German Criminal Code, paragraph 175 said that
• 56:29
  homosexuality, homosexual contact was legally banned in
• 56:34
  Germany at the time. However, Despite that, Berlin
• 56:39
  actually had a thriving queer scene.
• 56:42
  And a lot of times people think about Paris as sort of being
• 56:44
  sort of like the gay capital of the world at the time.
• 56:49
  I think some people would actually argue that Berlin might
• 56:51
  have had it. It might might actually be more.
• 56:57
  Elevated. Experience during the era of the
• 57:01
  Weimar Republic between 1919 and 1933, It it kind of was
• 57:07
  considered the queer capital of the world.
• 57:09
  It had over 170 queer spaces. That's a lot like that is that
• 57:17
  is massive for, you know, some place like that.
• 57:20
  And Britain and France both had a lot of queer spaces as well.
• 57:27
  But there was more that was happening in Germany at the time
• 57:31
  that really kind of elevated that sort of.
• 57:36
  So we've touched on Doctor Magnus Hirschfield, who was a
• 57:43
  gay Jewish liberal who founded the Institute of Sexual Research
• 57:48
  in 1919. And the reason that's important
• 57:51
  is that this Medical Center pioneered transgender care,
• 57:58
  gender affirming surgeries, all of these things.
• 58:02
  And Doctor Hirschfield published over 200 books and pamphlets on
• 58:05
  gay rights and openly advocated for the abolishment of paragraph
• 58:10
  175. His motto and sort of everything
• 58:14
  that drove him was through science to justice, right?
• 58:21
  And the reason why if you look at at like history, specifically
• 58:26
  trans history as far as medical advancements and things like
• 58:30
  that, everything kind of stops. You don't really see much before
• 58:38
  like 50s or so. And the reason that is, it's
• 58:42
  because on May 6th, 1933, the institute was looted by students
• 58:46
  led by the essay. All of the documents, all the
• 58:49
  paperwork, everything in the institute was pulled out onto
• 58:53
  the street and burned. And it took with it decades of
• 58:57
  trans medical history gone. What?
• 59:01
  Gone and that's there was there was after that there was very
• 59:07
  little out there in regarding gender affirming care surgeries,
• 59:13
  things like that. Like it Look, it was, Yeah.
• 59:21
  The world's first gay rights organization was called the
• 59:25
  Scientific Humanitarian Committee, and it was founded in
• 59:28
  Germany in 1897 and in the US at the around the the few years
• 59:35
  later. Henry Gerber founded the Society
• 59:39
  for Human Rights in Chicago in 1924, which also advocated for
• 59:44
  gay rights, which that actually kind of starts coinciding with
• 59:52
  the Harlem Renaissance, which ran from like, the 1920s to the
• 59:55
  early 1930s. And that provided a space for
• 1:00:00
  Black queer artists like Gladys Bentley, who we mentioned
• 1:00:04
  earlier in Langston Hughes, to express themselves through art,
• 1:00:09
  which that was, you know, this is again.
• 1:00:13
  Leading up to World War Two, there was so much happening.
• 1:00:18
  The 1920s also saw a rise in publication of lesbian
• 1:00:23
  literature, like Radcliffe Hall's The Well of Loneliness,
• 1:00:26
  which was published in 1928. It was first published in the
• 1:00:29
  UK. British court deemed it obscene,
• 1:00:31
  so it wasn't published again until 1949 after World War 2.
• 1:00:36
  Sort of an aside, her birth name was Marguerite, but in adulthood
• 1:00:40
  she would often go by the first name John.
• 1:00:44
  So maybe if she'd had the language she would have
• 1:00:48
  identified somewhere along the trans mass spectrum.
• 1:00:50
  We don't know, but it's also important to note, no, she was
• 1:00:57
  very out. She was open and out.
• 1:00:59
  But also also important here to note that while she was
• 1:01:03
  publishing lesbian literature and using a male name, Radcliffe
• 1:01:07
  Hall had a super conservative views on things like gender
• 1:01:11
  roles and idealized Italian fascism and Mussolini.
• 1:01:17
  Yeah. She also held what a lot of
• 1:01:18
  folks called problematic racial politics, which just goes to
• 1:01:23
  show that even back then, people can be both an LGBTQ plus icon
• 1:01:27
  and to be totally problematic. Think like Caitlyn Jenner, Buck
• 1:01:30
  Angel, etcetera. It's not clued you from and it
• 1:01:36
  you know her her well of loneliness is still considered
• 1:01:41
  to be like a a thing a a. Good night, Bill.
• 1:01:47
  Good night Bill A. A sort of core piece of lesbian
• 1:01:52
  literature, despite her super problematic views.
• 1:01:56
  Super super. Problematic views.
• 1:01:59
  Super problematic views. So to me how people are like I
• 1:02:04
  support you, but I put it for Mega.
• 1:02:07
  It was it and it still happens. Like.
• 1:02:10
  In fact, I just read an article today that there are an
• 1:02:13
  increasing number of specifically trans folks that
• 1:02:18
  are leaning way right, way right, because who the fuck
• 1:02:23
  knows? Fucking stupid.
• 1:02:29
  So during the late 19th and early 20th century, Britain had
• 1:02:34
  laws against homosexuality. They still had this sort of
• 1:02:37
  underground scene. The, you know, all the, they
• 1:02:39
  had, you know, different clubs and, and things like that.
• 1:02:43
  However, Paris did not. Homosexuality was decriminalized
• 1:02:50
  during the French Revolution. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:58
  Which was I thought was interesting.
• 1:03:00
  I always forget that little bit, but they decriminalized
• 1:03:03
  homosexuality during the French Revolution in the early 1900s.
• 1:03:08
  Paris was another European country that had a flourishing
• 1:03:13
  queer scene, but the difference is that with most of the queer
• 1:03:18
  scenes, gay men were often the face of gay culture in like
• 1:03:23
  Germany. In France, the lesbian was the
• 1:03:28
  IT girl. They were far more open and out
• 1:03:34
  they were lesbians were were often able to live less
• 1:03:39
  discreetly than gay men and you had people like Gertrude Stein,
• 1:03:45
  Natalie Barney, who was another American writer who began
• 1:03:50
  publishing love poems to women in 1900.
• 1:03:54
  Renee Vivienne, who is a British poet who wrote in French and
• 1:03:57
  often considered one of the most noteworthy lesbian posts of the
• 1:04:00
  20th century. These were women that often were
• 1:04:04
  in Paris, that congregated in Paris, were seen in cabarets and
• 1:04:07
  cafes you would see often. Such a romantic time.
• 1:04:13
  Right. You'd often see pictures of
• 1:04:17
  women dressed in masculine clothing, even, you know, the
• 1:04:21
  dressed as dandy's top, hats, tails, the whole 9 yards.
• 1:04:26
  So that was a lot of folks between Paris and Berlin.
• 1:04:32
  A lot of folks gravitated to those two main European cities.
• 1:04:38
  After his imprisonment, Oscar Wilde basically took a one way
• 1:04:41
  steamer to Paris and lived there until he died in 1900, which
• 1:04:46
  only gave him three years. Yeah, Amsterdam was another one
• 1:04:57
  that had sort of very LAX views when it came to, you know,
• 1:05:03
  homosexuality and things like that.
• 1:05:04
  But when the Netherlands was occupied by the Germans during
• 1:05:09
  World War 2, they implemented paragraph 175 S very close to.
• 1:05:17
  Something I know. Right.
• 1:05:21
  So when did things start changing sort of on the on the
• 1:05:25
  on a bigger scale that's. So it just sounds like
• 1:05:31
  throughout history, people somehow came up with this
• 1:05:35
  unnamed fear because you said it was, it was decriminalized
• 1:05:40
  during the French Revolution. So that means like at some point
• 1:05:43
  somebody feared homosexuality and queerness.
• 1:05:49
  And so I just wonder who starts this fear and where does it come
• 1:05:55
  from and what is it stemmed about?
• 1:05:57
  Like I. I mean, it's, it's just like,
• 1:06:00
  it's just like anything, you know, it's, it's something
• 1:06:02
  that's different. It's something that's not you.
• 1:06:06
  It's like, you know, I mean, even if you think of like, like,
• 1:06:10
  think of men's fashion, Men's fashion used to be very
• 1:06:16
  extravagant, you know, heels, wigs, makeup, you know, tussles
• 1:06:23
  and bubbles. And.
• 1:06:25
  Ruffles and colors and things that, you know, if you were to
• 1:06:31
  wear them today, people would be like, oh, do you think?
• 1:06:35
  And then fucking Bo Brummel comes along and destroys all of
• 1:06:38
  men's fashion in like the blink of an eye and makes it all
• 1:06:42
  boring as fuck and right drab boring colors.
• 1:06:49
  Beau Brummel destroyed men's fashion, but you know so.
• 1:06:54
  By those rules, by the way, so. But then when you it's starting
• 1:06:59
  to make it, I think it over the years it's I think more
• 1:07:01
  flamboyant is starting to like come back.
• 1:07:04
  You know, we can tell that in men's fashion now.
• 1:07:07
  But you know, then if you, if you, if you look at sort of if
• 1:07:19
  you look at this country, right, anything that's different, we
• 1:07:22
  have laws against everything from interracial marriage to
• 1:07:28
  using a fucking water fountain. You know what I mean?
• 1:07:33
  We enslaved people for you know what, you know what I mean?
• 1:07:38
  Like. We almost feels like we're
• 1:07:39
  trying to go back to that, but. Right.
• 1:07:42
  Well, the Nazis took a lot of their information from our Jim
• 1:07:46
  Crow era. They they saw how we handled
• 1:07:49
  things like that. And they said, hey, that's cool.
• 1:07:50
  I like that. I learned that the other day and
• 1:07:53
  I was like, Oh yeah. How horrible, right?
• 1:07:58
  Yeah. So the the the Hitler took a lot
• 1:08:01
  of what he was doing from how we handled stuff.
• 1:08:04
  So go us. We always wanted to be the
• 1:08:07
  leader. Right.
• 1:08:09
  And then when, you know, Hitler decided to start running
• 1:08:13
  everybody into concentration camps, you know, I think that
• 1:08:18
  when when people talk about the Holocaust, we'll talk about the
• 1:08:22
  Holocaust immediately. They they start thinking about
• 1:08:26
  when they start thinking about the Jews, they start thinking
• 1:08:30
  about sort of like the Romani people.
• 1:08:33
  They start thinking about that the when it the homosexuals are
• 1:08:38
  sort of the last people that people tend to think about when
• 1:08:40
  it comes to the Holocaust. But we were there, you know, you
• 1:08:45
  see the pink triangle on things that that came from Hitler.
• 1:08:48
  That was how we identified ourselves.
• 1:08:50
  Yeah. And it was sort of.
• 1:08:53
  And it didn't matter the background, right?
• 1:08:58
  So you were just swept in there? Yeah, if you happen to be Jewish
• 1:09:01
  and gay, oh, you're fucked. But you know, there up until
• 1:09:09
  that point, there was so there was so much happening,
• 1:09:15
  especially in Europe. Here, we've always been
• 1:09:18
  problematic. Like, yes, we've had like we had
• 1:09:21
  the the we had like the Harlem Renaissance and stuff.
• 1:09:23
  But it was still, it was all right if you were an artist, but
• 1:09:27
  you couldn't be a like a normal person who was queer, you know
• 1:09:32
  what I mean? Like it was very that's.
• 1:09:34
  Interesting, but just wish I knew I'd I'm sure there's like
• 1:09:40
  some like scientific study or something that has gone into
• 1:09:48
  depth about like why this exists and you know what I mean?
• 1:09:53
  Like it's so. So so IA lot of it.
• 1:09:58
  So everything from transphobia to homophobia is it's all
• 1:10:04
  colonizer behavior. The Puritans infected
• 1:10:09
  everything. It's the it's the colonizers,
• 1:10:11
  because all of these cultures all over the world.
• 1:10:16
  Like. They they all had yes, you know,
• 1:10:22
  in in so many of these different cultures, you know, trans folks
• 1:10:27
  and people that were gender expansive were revered.
• 1:10:30
  You know, there are there is ancient art in just about every
• 1:10:34
  Asian society and that that shows two men or two women and
• 1:10:40
  because it was what it was. But then the fucking colonizers
• 1:10:43
  have to come in. And when you have the colonizers
• 1:10:46
  coming in, that's when everything goes to shit.
• 1:10:48
  It's. So interesting to me like and
• 1:10:52
  what made them think that fearing homosexuality?
• 1:10:58
  Because the Bible. It all comes back to the
• 1:11:01
  Christian bullshit. It comes back to this like the,
• 1:11:07
  the the. I have such a hard time, and if
• 1:11:11
  my mother watches the shoe, I have such a hard time with.
• 1:11:18
  Sometimes religion's OK, sometimes it's accepted,
• 1:11:21
  sometimes it's not. But then here we are.
• 1:11:25
  But I also feel like to me, religion has always just been
• 1:11:31
  sort of like, you know how like art, you learn it, you shape it
• 1:11:37
  and you know what rules to break.
• 1:11:39
  So like, and it should be open to interpretation, but you don't
• 1:11:46
  force it on people. Like I feel like I know Buddhism
• 1:11:50
  is not a religion per SE, but I feel like that is like you take
• 1:11:56
  it in, you adjust and adapt it to.
• 1:12:00
  Buddhism is always considered one of like the world religions.
• 1:12:05
  I having lived in Buddhist countries a good chunk of my
• 1:12:08
  life and you know it. It's more of a theology than
• 1:12:12
  anything. It's.
• 1:12:12
  More of a like, you know? Like and it why?
• 1:12:15
  Isn't it Christianity and. And because with the fucking it,
• 1:12:21
  it's, it's all about control. It's about, you know, and what,
• 1:12:27
  So what? What has always baffled me like
• 1:12:30
  literally my entire life, having having lived overseas for the
• 1:12:33
  majority of until I was 18, like I, I grew up around so many
• 1:12:40
  different cultures and people and and everything and even
• 1:12:45
  moving back here. The one thing that always kind
• 1:12:48
  of blows my mind a little bit and I, I don't know that
• 1:12:54
  everybody can see it because not everybody has the same sort of
• 1:12:57
  worldview. You know what I mean?
• 1:12:59
  I was very fortunate and very privileged in that way.
• 1:13:01
  But anybody who is not white essentially who is Christian or
• 1:13:10
  Catholic or Baptist or anything along those lines, I'm like, you
• 1:13:16
  do you understand that you are this?
• 1:13:22
  This is not your religion. This religion was literally
• 1:13:26
  forced on you by colonizers like the enslaved people that were
• 1:13:33
  brought over from Africa. They didn't come over here as
• 1:13:35
  Catholic. They didn't come over here as
• 1:13:36
  Baptist. That religion was forced on them
• 1:13:39
  so they could conform to what the white men thought was best.
• 1:13:49
  We're going to let you learn religion.
• 1:13:51
  We're not going to let you breed, but you're going to learn
• 1:13:53
  religion because we're going to force this religion down your
• 1:13:54
  throat. You.
• 1:13:56
  Know and then we over we outshone their religion and they
• 1:14:01
  were. Like all of these, these
• 1:14:03
  different cultures, it's always so interesting to me.
• 1:14:06
  I'm like it always. It's always.
• 1:14:10
  I think that's the part I'm asking.
• 1:14:12
  It's. Depressing.
• 1:14:13
  I'm like and like, like the indigenous folks, Native
• 1:14:16
  Americans and stuff who are Christian.
• 1:14:17
  I'm like you talk about colonizers.
• 1:14:20
  This is literally a colonized. Like this is the epitome of
• 1:14:26
  colonizer behavior. This shit was forced on you
• 1:14:30
  almost. Like a brainwasher.
• 1:14:33
  It literally, that's basically what it is.
• 1:14:35
  That's what happened when we stole everybody's children, put
• 1:14:38
  them in like schools and beat the native out of them.
• 1:14:42
  You know what I mean? Like that's, that's, it's
• 1:14:45
  literally what we did and it's fucking embarrassing, but it's
• 1:14:50
  such an interesting, I don't know.
• 1:14:53
  It's, it's, it's, it's an interesting sort of dichotomy
• 1:14:57
  because people always talk about, you know, you know,
• 1:15:01
  change your, your language and your way of thinking, you know,
• 1:15:04
  you know, for to, to get away from the colonizing language and
• 1:15:08
  the colonizing way of thinking. And then I'm gonna go to church.
• 1:15:13
  But that that is. I see.
• 1:15:16
  Epitome of of, of colonization, 'cause that was the first thing
• 1:15:21
  we did was shove fucking religion down everybody's
• 1:15:24
  throats. We didn't kill like that.
• 1:15:27
  That that's always been fascinating to me because it's
• 1:15:32
  I've I've always been like, but. That's the part that is so
• 1:15:40
  confusing for me. And I've I've I've never.
• 1:15:44
  I've never always approach religion in that way that you're
• 1:15:47
  talking about. Like, I hear what you're saying.
• 1:15:50
  I understand what the lessons may be, but I don't have to live
• 1:15:55
  by a certain rule set to make sure that I'm.
• 1:16:02
  Right. If you have to be like a good
• 1:16:04
  person because you're afraid of being, you know, sent to eternal
• 1:16:07
  damnation, then. To each his own but it's always
• 1:16:15
  been like like where does this hatred when you're supposed to
• 1:16:21
  be so sacred and loving but only loving when if it's AB and C and
• 1:16:28
  not DEF? So yeah, but then don't forget
• 1:16:30
  that you're also taught that God is a vengeful God and is going
• 1:16:34
  to smite you down if you know whatever he's going to command
• 1:16:36
  you to kill your first born son or whatever, blah blah blah blah
• 1:16:40
  blah yadda yadda yadda. I'm like, yeah.
• 1:16:43
  That's a that's a whole nother conversation that that's a whole
• 1:16:47
  other conversation that we can get into, but.
• 1:16:51
  That's like another like. Three hour long conversation
• 1:16:55
  like that, that is, that is something that if you want to
• 1:16:58
  sit around, we can like take shots and we can talk about this
• 1:17:00
  shit, 'cause I got and this is coming from, this is coming
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  from, you know, someone who, my father was an ordained minister.
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  He didn't practice very often, but he was there.
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  And someone who found out I, I was somebody asked me once what
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  denomination the church was that I went to in Michigan when I was
• 1:17:19
  growing up. I wasn't sure.
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  So I googled. I shouldn't have googled.
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  It was basically it's a type. I can't remember what I have to
• 1:17:31
  look it up again, but it's a, it's like a, a branch of like
• 1:17:37
  evangelist like crazy. I'm like.
• 1:17:41
  Oh, like a Billy Graham kind of thing.
• 1:17:44
  Yeah, like that's. That's great.
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  I love that. For me.
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  I know I had to. I remember looking at, I was
• 1:17:51
  like, I've never heard of this before.
• 1:17:52
  And then I had to, I fell down the Google hole and I was like,
• 1:17:54
  oh, oh, that's great. That's.
• 1:18:00
  Spectacular. Anyhow, what did D Garrett say?
• 1:18:06
  Gay men were the first of, first of the man.
• 1:18:12
  Excuse me, Gay men were first of were some of the first folks in
• 1:18:19
  concentration camps. I'd never heard of the black
• 1:18:22
  triangle. Also had that were on marked on
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  lesbians. I have not heard of the black
• 1:18:31
  triangle. Now I'm gonna go Googling after
• 1:18:33
  this, 'cause you know how I get, I'll get stuck and then I'll be
• 1:18:39
  like, oh, oh, right. So next week I'll talk about
• 1:18:47
  just like I found on the rabbit hole of watching TV.
• 1:18:49
  And I was like, wait a minute. You know, The funny thing is, is
• 1:18:53
  I had a thought is like, I pay all this money for all of these
• 1:18:57
  platforms and I only watch them like maybe once every six
• 1:19:01
  months. I, you know, I should be saving
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  myself a lot of money, but you know, the kids, it's for the
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  kids. Speaking of for the kids, let's
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  move on to I. Know we've already gone over
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  it's. OK, if you're still here, we
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  appreciate you. If you're still listening,
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  here's the headlines and things coming up.
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  I'm sorry, this shine is like driving me crazy.
• 1:19:49
  I cannot handle that. Anyway, this is to me.
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  It's becoming a little scary because this isn't like the
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  first person that has gone missing and to tell you that
• 1:20:17
  there have been more people reported missing on the like the
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  social medias than I have noticed in a long time.
• 1:20:26
  And I'm not sure if it's just me or oh, you're sewing.
• 1:20:32
  What are you sewing? Do I need to put an order in?
• 1:20:34
  What's? Right.
• 1:20:41
  But like people going missing is a little bit frightening for me.
• 1:20:48
  I don't know. And especially when it's like
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  gay people and trans people, it just so folks in Phoenix or the
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  Phoenix area are looking for Michael Bayne.
• 1:21:06
  I guess I felt like what I just saw before we got on was that he
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  was seen February 16th, I think a couple days ago.
• 1:21:19
  And people are worried about him.
• 1:21:23
  And this is kind of like it's, I don't know what they call it,
• 1:21:30
  but there was a, a person that was missing last year and we
• 1:21:36
  were all just like hoping that we would find him and, and.
• 1:21:45
  I think when they I think I know who you're talking about and I
• 1:21:48
  think they did find him, but then they were just like.
• 1:21:52
  Yeah, and it was like almost like there was no like the
• 1:21:58
  police and everything didn't seem like they cared it right.
• 1:22:03
  That's the part that's most fear striking to me is like they were
• 1:22:07
  like, oh, we found them, right. OK, who did it?
• 1:22:12
  And we have no leads and no witnesses, so that's just too
• 1:22:15
  bad. Yeah, it was like, oh, so I'm
• 1:22:20
  sending out the positive Doo Doo that this person gets found.
• 1:22:31
  And the it's just weird to me and the lady that's missing from
• 1:22:38
  her Tucson home being snatched up.
• 1:22:44
  Savannah, I can handle mom. Yeah.
• 1:22:47
  Yeah, and I'm like, I just cannot handle what is going on.
• 1:22:51
  Like what? What's happening?
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  Say hello to your people. Say you love them.
• 1:22:59
  I don't think a lot like people are getting bold because they've
• 1:23:02
  been emboldened so. Be safe out there people.
• 1:23:08
  Turn on your pen, Share your location.
• 1:23:11
  If they do something to, you know, get rid.
• 1:23:15
  Of that isn't the case though. You know, black, brown, queer
• 1:23:19
  people, you know, nobody cares. You know what I mean?
• 1:23:23
  It's like. Well this person is white and
• 1:23:27
  the other person was white before and they still didn't
• 1:23:30
  care so. Yeah, but they're queer.
• 1:23:33
  Oh, that just automatically. Bring the undesirables.
• 1:23:38
  Yeah, Oh, oh, that gave me a horrible chill.
• 1:23:45
  Speaking of them, we talked about the documentary.
• 1:23:51
  If you haven't seen it, go watch it.
• 1:23:54
  The other one comes out March 11th or March 12th or something
• 1:23:57
  like that, Gabe says. I wish they put this much effort
• 1:24:02
  for Marcus or anyone in the LGBTQ plus and.
• 1:24:05
  That's exactly the problem. They don't just the other day
• 1:24:14
  like that trans person was murdered and all we heard was
• 1:24:19
  that where they were found and that was A and the more you kept
• 1:24:22
  reading is like it's very evident that the Police
• 1:24:25
  Department did not put any effort into anything.
• 1:24:31
  We found them. That's it.
• 1:24:34
  So a federal judge blocked Dump Truck and his administration
• 1:24:41
  from forcing California schools to out transcendence to their
• 1:24:45
  parents. It's very interesting because,
• 1:25:02
  yeah, despite all the things that are happening, I just want
• 1:25:14
  to remind everyone that February.
• 1:25:17
  Yeah, thing that makes the triple chin on Gunfruck's base
• 1:25:27
  just triple is that it's also 'cause I heard that he had a
• 1:25:30
  problem with this. It's also Ethnic Equality Month
• 1:25:39
  and this is hurting the white people.
• 1:25:44
  I am personally offended, yes. So sorry, So sorry.
• 1:25:52
  In sad news, I knew that he was dealing with some health issues.
• 1:25:57
  So it's almost like that relative that, you know, is, you
• 1:26:03
  know, not doing well. And then you're like, it still
• 1:26:06
  doesn't feel good. You know what I mean?
• 1:26:09
  Civil rights activists and icon. And I forgot that he ran for
• 1:26:14
  president. And all of the reading I was
• 1:26:16
  doing, I was like, he tried to run for president.
• 1:26:19
  I don't remember this. What year was that?
• 1:26:26
  But he passed away at 84. I'm just like, no, 2026 needs to
• 1:26:36
  slow down a minute 'cause we getting a little too aggressive,
• 1:26:39
  'cause there was somebody else that I saw.
• 1:26:42
  And I was like, you know what, 2026?
• 1:26:45
  You can slow down now, you know? Madam Musky wasn't paying
• 1:26:53
  attention. You must be hurt by Black
• 1:26:56
  History and Ethnic Equality Month.
• 1:26:57
  I am very hurt by it. Extraordinarily offended.
• 1:27:06
  Well you know. So I wonder how many?
• 1:27:13
  Oh this will be so fun. I wonder if I can start doing
• 1:27:16
  this. How many inventions by black
• 1:27:19
  people that dump truck uses? Oh, a good chunk.
• 1:27:26
  Would he would not use them if I said.
• 1:27:28
  Black and or queer people? Oh, a computer.
• 1:27:36
  Wi-Fi. Oh, remember his campaigns?
• 1:27:42
  Yeah. Oh, you remember his campaigns?
• 1:27:44
  What year was that? I'm not the.
• 1:27:50
  Are you looking at it? I can.
• 1:27:55
  I must have been like early 90s then, right?
• 1:28:02
  I do not remember this. He ran in 84 and in 88.
• 1:28:09
  Oh, you know, I'm such a young child, but I didn't.
• 1:28:14
  I wasn't around to know that that was happening.
• 1:28:18
  Excuse me? I got ready in a hurry and I'm
• 1:28:20
  getting rid of the shine on my forehead.
• 1:28:22
  You're welcome. Does he eat peanuts?
• 1:28:27
  I'm sure he eats some kind of nuts.
• 1:28:29
  Right. Also the ridiculousness that
• 1:28:36
  was. I wish.
• 1:28:38
  No, I don't wish because I do not have any pictures of that
• 1:28:42
  man on my computer. There was a picture that was
• 1:28:48
  circulating because Nicki Minaj in pink was in a car with dump
• 1:28:56
  truck and had money in her hand and was like Happy President's
• 1:29:00
  Day. She can go to all kinds of hell
• 1:29:05
  as far as not care. Also online were people that
• 1:29:13
  were mad at Tyra, but then they were in the same breath
• 1:29:16
  supporting Nicki Minaj. So that's where like a lot of
• 1:29:20
  hypocrisy was happening online, 'cause I was like, oh, people
• 1:29:25
  are fighting but not playing by the rules, you know?
• 1:29:31
  And good news just makes the conservatives so happy to hear
• 1:29:39
  this. Bad Bunny's halftime show is
• 1:29:42
  struck, is having an effect and has LED a 245% rise of searches
• 1:29:51
  for flights to Puerto Rico as well as like reservations.
• 1:29:55
  And you know, you know he, he doesn't speak English at all.
• 1:30:02
  But. Right.
• 1:30:07
  Also, he got his first solo number one for what is it, DTMF,
• 1:30:15
  which is the name of his album, but DTMF is the single off of it
• 1:30:24
  and so I'm just overjoyed that the MAGA people are enjoying his
• 1:30:29
  number one and that he has a global number one hit.
• 1:30:35
  I think it's I I'm still here for it.
• 1:30:38
  If, if anything, we are great at protesting with our minds and
• 1:30:45
  our money. Right.
• 1:30:48
  Right, that is all I can say. I wish I had more, but excuse
• 1:30:57
  me, there was so much stuff that happened today that I'm
• 1:31:02
  surprised I'm sitting here. We we managed to get, we managed
• 1:31:09
  to get through it. We got through it.
• 1:31:11
  And somehow the Internet did not kick both of us off, but it
• 1:31:16
  kicked us off one at a time. What gigs do we have coming?
• 1:31:22
  Up I have cheese mimosa brunch at To Style, benefiting Phoenix
• 1:31:30
  allies for community health on Sunday.
• 1:31:34
  Should be a good time. I'll be doing drag bingo from
• 1:31:38
  12:00 to 2:00 and then there'll be like a dance party from 2:00
• 1:31:41
  to 4:00. Interesting.
• 1:31:46
  I'm getting old, so I don't know.
• 1:31:53
  If you see me dancing, give me a ibuprofen 'cause that means I'm
• 1:31:57
  gonna be sore the next day. Get.
• 1:31:59
  Some Icy hot ready? Speaking of dancing, last year I
• 1:32:04
  attempted to dance and was sore for a couple days after the
• 1:32:10
  fundraiser. So the Drag story, our annual
• 1:32:15
  fundraiser is on Saturday, February 28th and it's themed
• 1:32:22
  level up and you can use code live 20262026 to save 20% on
• 1:32:32
  your ticket. Also, if you go to the drag
• 1:32:34
  story, our easy Instagram, I think is that the giveaway?
• 1:32:42
  Sure you can win tickets to the fundraiser.
• 1:32:47
  I don't. Remember, we shared some of the
• 1:32:49
  some of the raffle prizes are gonna be available.
• 1:32:51
  We've got some awesome stuff. Brandon McGill, Holly Shoemaker,
• 1:32:58
  Eric Turner, Amethyst. Rose was harassed all of our
• 1:33:02
  friends. All of these, like we have so
• 1:33:05
  many awesome things that are being raffled off.
• 1:33:08
  You can only get raffle tickets at the fundraiser, so you should
• 1:33:12
  do that. It's always a good time, the
• 1:33:14
  money and we'll raffle off random prizes.
• 1:33:19
  Yeah, it's always a good time. But yeah, come and check that
• 1:33:23
  out and it'll be over early enough for you to be able to go
• 1:33:26
  do other things that evening. Sure why not?
• 1:33:32
  You never hear about being gay anymore cause I've been gay.
• 1:33:40
  Sorry I know that's your thing. Sorry the dad jokes I intruded.
• 1:33:52
  On March 12th I have Irish tea themed Listen, I'm not Irish, I.
• 1:34:01
  Have no idea. But the theme is Irish tea.
• 1:34:06
  I will be wearing green. That is as Irish as I will be
• 1:34:10
  for you. But it's drag bingo at Drink Me
• 1:34:14
  Tea Room at 5:30, so get your tickets for that and then
• 1:34:20
  Saturday. On March 20th it will be the
• 1:34:24
  final Wild Wild West Con Dragon Burlesque show happening in
• 1:34:29
  Tucson. You can get tickets for the show
• 1:34:33
  even if you are not attending the con.
• 1:34:35
  Tickets are not on sale yet. They should be soon, I hope, but
• 1:34:40
  those should be available shortly.
• 1:34:42
  But make sure that if you want to go see the show, do get your
• 1:34:46
  tickets as soon as they go on sale because I guarantee you
• 1:34:50
  that they will sell out this year because it is the last year
• 1:34:54
  that and then on April 17th, yes, it's a little ways away,
• 1:34:58
  but make sure you put on your calendar.
• 1:35:00
  Drag Bingo and Cats at the Phoenix Cat Cafe is a thing.
• 1:35:05
  So those tickets should also be on sale soon.
• 1:35:08
  Make sure that you get those early because those do sell out
• 1:35:11
  as well. Don't come.
• 1:35:14
  Crying to us if you say we're gonna try, we tried to get them
• 1:35:18
  and then it was too late because they will sell out.
• 1:35:20
  We told you it was gonna sell out.
• 1:35:21
  So. And most of you follow us on
• 1:35:23
  social media, so like, right? And I understand.
• 1:35:28
  I don't get it. Still, nobody listens.
• 1:35:31
  It's fine. Yes, and remember, you can book
• 1:35:35
  us for office party celebrations and more.
• 1:35:39
  Send us a message. And Bill was talking about
• 1:35:42
  flying us around the country or something.
• 1:35:48
  You want to join that and sponsor that negotiation?
• 1:35:51
  That's great. Are you here for it with that?
• 1:35:57
  That is all we went a little over.
• 1:36:00
  Not too bad, but stay safe out there 'cause it is crazy, so
• 1:36:07
  crazy out there. I just can't understand and
• 1:36:11
  travel with the person if you can.
• 1:36:14
  I just can't whatever and know your rights.
• 1:36:21
  Watch the episode before this 'cause that's what we talked
• 1:36:24
  about. So that is all for me and we
• 1:36:27
  will see you next week for your Wednesday night conversation and
• 1:36:31
  hopefully the outro plays very well without the covering.
• 1:36:36
  We'll find out. Good night.