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Gorgeous Ole Miss Coed body found riddled with gunshots. Bloody clothes to crack the case? WHO MURDERED ALLY KOSTIAL? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. We'd know that Ali Costal
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  Speaker 1: was attending summer school here at Ole, miss and was
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  Speaker 1: teaching fitness and police believe she was murdered, and this
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  Speaker 1: morning the area in the middle of a manhunt for
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  Speaker 1: her killer. A multi agency manhunt is underway as concerned
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  Speaker 1: grips this small Mississippi college town. Authorities hunting for a
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  Speaker 1: suspect in the apparent murder of Ali Costal. The twenty
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  Speaker 1: one year old senior at the University of Mississippi was
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  Speaker 1: found dead over the weekend nearly twenty miles off campus.
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  Speaker 1: A deputy on routine patrol finding her body near Sardist
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  Speaker 1: Lake in neighboring Harmontown. And this is what it looks
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  Speaker 1: like around the lake where authorities found her body. You
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  Speaker 1: can see a number of trees. Also, winding roads get
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  Speaker 1: you here. And I've only seen a few houses, so
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  Speaker 1: this area is very remote. I am just sick, sick.
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  Speaker 1: Another beautiful college stunit found dead. Twenty one year old
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  Speaker 1: Alley Coastal found dead. I Meancy Grace, this is crime Stories.
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  Speaker 1: You were just hearing from our friend Marcus Moore over
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  Speaker 1: at ABC. Listen to this. Friends say that Alie Costal
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  Speaker 1: had no enemies and was the type of person who
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  Speaker 1: would help anyone out. They can't understand why anyone would
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  Speaker 1: want to bring her any harm. She was last seen
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  Speaker 1: in Oxford, Mississippipitis. On routine patrol discovered the victim's body
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  Speaker 1: near Harmontown, neighbors tell Fox thirteen Memphis. The body was
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  Speaker 1: found by a picnic table near Sardis Lake, a popular
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  Speaker 1: gathering spot, and WBLT reports she had been shot eight
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  Speaker 1: times back in Ali's home in suburban Saint Louis. Her father,
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  Speaker 1: Keith posted on Facebook, we were visited by the Sunset Hills,
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  Speaker 1: Missouri police who communicated to us that our beautiful dear
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  Speaker 1: Alexandria Ali Costal was the victim of a homicide. What
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  Speaker 1: happened to this beautiful young girl? We know eight gunshot wounds,
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  Speaker 1: eight gunshot wounds to a girl that apparently had no
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  Speaker 1: enemies whatsoever. But what more is there to know about Ali?
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  Speaker 1: You were just hearing from our friend at Fox News
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  Speaker 1: that was Jonathan's Sirie. But take listen to Katherine Hassell.
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  Speaker 1: We know that Ali graduated from Lindburg High School behind
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  Speaker 1: me in twenty sixteen. From there, she went on to
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  Speaker 1: Old Miss and studied marketing. Now, what we don't know
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  Speaker 1: is how Ali's body ended up near a lake Saturday morning.
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  Speaker 1: A TV station in Mississippi is reporting that Ali was
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  Speaker 1: last seen stopping by the door of a bar near
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  Speaker 1: campus Friday night, but she never went in. Now the
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  Speaker 1: station also reports authorities close to the case say that
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  Speaker 1: Ali went home around midnight but then left, and that
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  Speaker 1: her roommates did not hear her leave. Ali's body was
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  Speaker 1: found Saturday morning, about twenty miles from campus. Lafayette County
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  Speaker 1: Sheriff's deputy spotted it during a routine patrol. Now, Ali
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  Speaker 1: had been shot eight times. Ali was supposed to graduate
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  Speaker 1: from Old Miss this spring. She had also started the
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  Speaker 1: golf club at the school and was the president of it.
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  Speaker 1: In a Facebook post, her dad wrote that she was
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  Speaker 1: there doing summer classes and also teaching some fitness classes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my stars, that is just breaking my heart because
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  Speaker 1: for so many different reasons, but this girl, Ali Costule
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  Speaker 1: is just a few years believe it or not, older
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  Speaker 1: than my little twins age eleven. She's just ten years
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  Speaker 1: older than them, twenty one years old. She's just maybe herself.
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  Speaker 1: And when I hear that her dad was out posting
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  Speaker 1: she was a president of the golf club. Jack, you
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  Speaker 1: look at me. I'm getting chills all the way up
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  Speaker 1: now my arms, because just this past couple of seventy
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  Speaker 1: two hours, David and I have been going round and
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  Speaker 1: round about should the twins play at school sport? Is
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  Speaker 1: it too much? With piano and saxophone and enquire and
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  Speaker 1: scouts and to pile something else on them? And every
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  Speaker 1: thing we talk about it's like we've done in ourselves,
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  Speaker 1: you know, as she will cut, I think I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: cry about that father's posting about his little girl Ali
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  Speaker 1: on the golf club. You know why, Nancy, in part
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  Speaker 1: because as a parent, we all do everything for our children,
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  Speaker 1: and he did everything right, so to speak. And she
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  Speaker 1: was successful and young and vibrant and doing what every
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  Speaker 1: parent dreams of and going to college and playing golf,
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  Speaker 1: and yet he couldn't protect her from this unknown evil.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the worst, most heartbreaking part. Okay, he got
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  Speaker 1: to me all right, old miss student, just twenty one
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  Speaker 1: years old, found dead in a homicide, shot eight times
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  Speaker 1: at a lake twenty miles away from campus. It takes
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  Speaker 1: me back, it really does, to being in college and
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  Speaker 1: of course I had dropped out after my fiance had
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  Speaker 1: passed away. But then when I finally went, I had
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  Speaker 1: to go double time and go to summer school and
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  Speaker 1: catch up, and was also working in the library, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, in my own little world, and I'm thinking
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  Speaker 1: about her. She's absolutely stunning Ali Costile teaching these exercise
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  Speaker 1: classes and taking classes for herself. Guys, let me introduce
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  Speaker 1: my all star lineup as I pulled myself back together
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  Speaker 1: here as she will cut with me that I just
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  Speaker 1: went to judge and trial attorney. You can find her
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  Speaker 1: at Ashley Wilcot dot com. Renowned criminal defense attorney. Jason
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  Speaker 1: Oceans joining me Adam, New York. Karen Smith, forensics expert
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  Speaker 1: and a founder of Bear Bones Consulting. Renowned psychologists joining
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  Speaker 1: me out of Manhattan. Karen Stark, doctor at Michelle Dupree,
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  Speaker 1: medical examiner, author of Homicide Investigation Field Guide, and joining
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  Speaker 1: me right now. Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter Ellen
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  Speaker 1: Kill Lauren Ellen. Okay, a lot has happened in the
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  Speaker 1: last twenty four hours, and I mean a lot when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to Ali Costile. But I just want to
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  Speaker 1: start where I start every investigation, Ellen, and that is
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  Speaker 1: with the body. The forensics and the timeline hit me, Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: It was Saturday morning. A Lafayette County Sheriff's deputy was
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  Speaker 1: on a routine patrol year Sertus League, which is about
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  Speaker 1: thirty minutes from the Old Miss campus in Oxford. He
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  Speaker 1: finds the body of Ali Costile. We know that she
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  Speaker 1: was shot eight times and all eight gunshot moss were
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  Speaker 1: in her abdomen, her stomach area, nowhere else on her body. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, ellen, Colaura,
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  Speaker 1: I'm drinking from the fire hydra right now. I know
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like it, but you're giving me a
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  Speaker 1: lot of forensic information right now. Let me go straight
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  Speaker 1: out to a veteran medical examiner. I can't tell you
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  Speaker 1: how much I look up to doctor Michelle Dupree joining
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  Speaker 1: me out of South Carolina, author of homicide investigation Field Guy,
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Dupree, this is telling me a lot which I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to learn from Karen Stark psychologist and Karen Smith
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  Speaker 1: forensic expert. But eight gunshot wounds to the abdomen, we
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  Speaker 1: know that she had been dead for a period of hours,
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  Speaker 1: and she's out by a picnic table near a lake,
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  Speaker 1: which means she's out in the elements. All right, break
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  Speaker 1: it down for me, doctor Michelle dupre Nancy. Eight gunshot
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  Speaker 1: wounds is a lot. That's devastating. Eight gunshot wounds to
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  Speaker 1: the abdomen. We have so many vital organs in that area.
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  Speaker 1: That is a devastating injury. She will believe to hop
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  Speaker 1: in no time. Guys, we're talking about Ali Costial, a
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  Speaker 1: gorgeous twenty one year old old miss student found dead.
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  Speaker 1: Karen Stark, I find it. You're the psychologist, but I
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  Speaker 1: want to read too much into it, because in the
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  Speaker 1: heat of a moment and you're pulling a trigger, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you intend to fire, where you end
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  Speaker 1: up firing. I don't know if it's happenstance where the
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  Speaker 1: bullets land. I don't know how good of a marksman
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  Speaker 1: the purposn't I can tell you right now. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: this is a guy. For instance, in the Jody Area's case,
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  Speaker 1: there were about twenty eight stab wounds and a gunshot
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  Speaker 1: wound to the head. Now to me, the gunshot wound
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  Speaker 1: to the head was clearly clearly intended for the head.
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  Speaker 1: But the other knife wounds I think were intentionally inflicted
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  Speaker 1: in certain spots. What does it say to you? Eight
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  Speaker 1: bullets to the abdomen. It says that this killer, it seems,
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  Speaker 1: knew her and wanted that kind of intimacy that close
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  Speaker 1: to her, and that it was very very personal mancy
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  Speaker 1: because you have to be right there next to her,
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  Speaker 1: looking at her as you're shooting her. And it's not
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  Speaker 1: just one gunshot wound, it's eight. Well, you know, Karen Smith,
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  Speaker 1: forensic expert, founder of a Beer Buns Consulting. Eight gunshot wounds. Now,
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  Speaker 1: let's see what does that say to you? Is how
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  Speaker 1: many does that mean the person emptied the entire gun
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  Speaker 1: out did they reload? That says to me either they're
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  Speaker 1: a heck of a marksman, I mean a sharpshooter, or
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  Speaker 1: this was at close range. I agree with you. You know,
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  Speaker 1: as a police officer, we carried fifteen rounds in one magazine,
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  Speaker 1: one in the chambers, sixteen total. You know, normal civilians
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  Speaker 1: there's nine. You can carry one in the chamber that
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  Speaker 1: would be ten. So I don't know, if you know,
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  Speaker 1: if this was a revolver, they would have to reload.
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  Speaker 1: If it was a semi automatic, they may not have
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  Speaker 1: had to. But you know, it goes back to what
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  Speaker 1: you said. This was an intimate crime. This wasn't something
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  Speaker 1: like a robbery. You know that maybe one or two eight.
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  Speaker 1: That spends the investigation into a completely different realm. Manswer
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  Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace. This gravel stretch off a
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  Speaker 1: Lafayette County road leads you to a quiet spot. It'll
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  Speaker 1: run right into the Stardust Lake. The only thing nearby
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  Speaker 1: is one building. This is where people who live near
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  Speaker 1: the shore tell me the body was found. It's crazy,
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  Speaker 1: it's just sad. Sadness fills the hearts of Ali Coostile's
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  Speaker 1: family and former Ole miss classmates. Is very, very shocking.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, it's close at home.
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  Speaker 1: Deputy say, they found the twenty one year old's body
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  Speaker 1: while on routine patrol in Harmontown, Mississippi. People who live
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  Speaker 1: in a nearby neighborhood tell me the body was found
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  Speaker 1: by this picnic table on Buford Ridge. Investigators say foul
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  Speaker 1: play was involved. There is somebody that knows somebody. I'm
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  Speaker 1: pretty sure the way well, of course there's foul play.
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  Speaker 1: She shot eight times in the stomach, not only that
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  Speaker 1: of where somebody knows something. Why do people always say
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  Speaker 1: somebody knows something. Of course, somebody knows something, even if
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  Speaker 1: it's the killer himself. Somebody always knows something. Oh, it's
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  Speaker 1: just trite. It's just trite. Just I swear it's physically
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  Speaker 1: putting a bad taste in my mouth. Somebody knows something.
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  Speaker 1: I think they knew, of course. I mean, oh, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just thinking about the parents, and I just go back
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  Speaker 1: to the dad posting about how proud he was of
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  Speaker 1: her being on the golf club. Oh, guys, you were
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  Speaker 1: just hearing from our friend Alexe Lorenzo at Fox thirteen
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  Speaker 1: Memphis reporting on what we know before the let me
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  Speaker 1: just say, man on the street jumped in saying, somebody
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  Speaker 1: knows something. So much has happened in the last twelve hours,
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  Speaker 1: even and the murderer of a twenty one year old
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  Speaker 1: old miss student. But why why it was Ali? Cost
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  Speaker 1: you'll out at Sardis Lake, twenty miles away from campus
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  Speaker 1: to take a listen to our friend Alexis Lorenzo. Ali
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  Speaker 1: grew up in St. Louis, Missouri. She moved to Oxford
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  Speaker 1: to study marketing at All miss She was the president
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  Speaker 1: of the university golf club, a member of a business fraternity,
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  Speaker 1: and a group fitness instructor. I's also on my snapchat
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  Speaker 1: where there is a party somewhere on there. Detectives have
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  Speaker 1: yet to say why Ali was at the Leake. Investigators
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  Speaker 1: tell Fox thirteen they have several leads in this case,
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  Speaker 1: but have not released those details. Somebody like that as
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  Speaker 1: run around Oxford to do that to somebody else. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if you have any information, call your local crime stoppers line.
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  Speaker 1: A party, a party, you know. I'm just handed in
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  Speaker 1: a manuscript for a new book, nonfiction Hailey Dean will
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  Speaker 1: have to wait. This is about a crime wave of
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  Speaker 1: in America and how not to be a victim, And
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  Speaker 1: an entire chapter is addresses parties that get out of control,
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  Speaker 1: parties where you don't know who all is there. You
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  Speaker 1: just kind of show up, parties that have been advertised
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  Speaker 1: online and you just jump in. And what got me
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  Speaker 1: involved in that? I know you remember this, Jason Oceans
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  Speaker 1: with me renowned to fits the turn me Out of
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  Speaker 1: New York, New Jersey area. Jason Oceans, you and I
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  Speaker 1: covered this case together. It was Carly Brook and she
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  Speaker 1: was the gorgeous young girl that dressed up is poison
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  Speaker 1: ivy and went to a big Halloween party. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if she knew it had been advertised on Twitter
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  Speaker 1: and Facebook. They were like five hundred seven hundred people
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  Speaker 1: there and then she goes missing. And what made it
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  Speaker 1: so hard, Jason, as you'll remember, because you and I
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  Speaker 1: sat on the set talking about it, was she was
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  Speaker 1: in costume, so nobody She had on like a red
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  Speaker 1: Poison Ivy wig, you know comic book Poison Ivy, the villain.
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  Speaker 1: She had on the red wig and the outfit so
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  Speaker 1: nobody could go. Yeah, I saw a blondheaded girl with glasses,
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  Speaker 1: wearing jeans and a red T shirt leave because she
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  Speaker 1: was Poison Ivy, and it made it so much more difficult.
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  Speaker 1: My point is that these parties, you go to a
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  Speaker 1: party you hear about, you don't know who's there. You
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  Speaker 1: don't know who you're coming in contact with. Now I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if that's the case here, but one of
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  Speaker 1: the friends says they heard that there was a party
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  Speaker 1: out at Sardis Lake. Now, Jay, you have a girl
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  Speaker 1: and boy, yep, aren't they about this age? Yeah? Twenty
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  Speaker 1: and seventeen right there, you got it in. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this girl, Ali Costi is twenty one years old. And
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  Speaker 1: when I look back, let's say twenty one, I can't
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  Speaker 1: remember what I was doing. Oh yeah, college and about
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  Speaker 1: to go to law school. I would just get in
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  Speaker 1: the car and drive off go running at night. That
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  Speaker 1: was my favorite time to run. What an idiot when
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  Speaker 1: I look back on it. If she had gone to
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  Speaker 1: a party, she probably didn't think twice about it, Jason,
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm I'm sure she didn't. And certainly you parle
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  Speaker 1: all the ages, and you know the invincibility of age
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  Speaker 1: and not thinking about you know such things. You know
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  Speaker 1: who's there and how to recognize everybody, and you know
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  Speaker 1: a level of comfort, and that creates an opportunity, as
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  Speaker 1: you know, for you know, for predators, that's what they
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  Speaker 1: wait for. They wait for opportunity and seize it and
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  Speaker 1: they take the vulnerable. A lot happening in the last
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  Speaker 1: twelve hours. Elan Kilauren with me Crime online dot Com
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  Speaker 1: investigative reporter. I also have learned this remote area includes
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  Speaker 1: a fishing camp in an area where locals and college
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  Speaker 1: students ride ATVs on weekends when the water is low,
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  Speaker 1: and according to a local news station, I'll learned the
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  Speaker 1: water had been high on Friday and Saturday, so there
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  Speaker 1: was less activity in the area, Ellen Colora, what more
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  Speaker 1: can you tell me a about the discovery of her body?
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  Speaker 1: Who found it? What time of the day or night
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  Speaker 1: was it found? Was nine one one called immediately? Was
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  Speaker 1: she clothed? Was she face up or face down? Were
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  Speaker 1: there any other markings on her body such as lookature
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  Speaker 1: or bruising. Was she wearing her shoes? If not, were
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  Speaker 1: her shoes and her clothing in the same area. What
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  Speaker 1: more can you tell me if anything about the area
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  Speaker 1: and the discovery of her body, Like you said, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: this Service Lake is a popular area with locals and students,
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  Speaker 1: but police said this past weekend traffic to the area
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  Speaker 1: was low and it's very very hard to get to.
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  Speaker 1: You don't accidentally happen upon startists, like, if you're going there,
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  Speaker 1: you have to know where you're going. We don't know
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  Speaker 1: if there was anyone else there. We know that Ali
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  Speaker 1: had gone home to her apartment at around midnight, but
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  Speaker 1: she left again. Her roommates didn't hear her leave the
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  Speaker 1: next thing. We know that a deputy on a routine
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  Speaker 1: patrol at the league Saturday morning signs her body. We
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  Speaker 1: didn't know anything about the condition of her body, and
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  Speaker 1: we still don't know much at all. We don't know
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  Speaker 1: the positioning, we don't know if there were additional injuries.
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  Speaker 1: Police have been very very tight lipped because this is
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  Speaker 1: an active investigation, you know, as she will caught seem
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  Speaker 1: to have been to a lot of different colleges and universities.
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  Speaker 1: But I before I went to Mercer and in Miyu,
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  Speaker 1: I started off at Valdosta State University down on the
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  Speaker 1: Georgia Florida line, and I was just thinking, and I
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  Speaker 1: hadn't thought about this since since A left Aldasta, that
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  Speaker 1: people were always having parties at some lakes down in Florida,
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  Speaker 1: and it wasn't that far away or lakes you know,
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  Speaker 1: out in rural, remote areas, there are always like cookouts
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  Speaker 1: and picnics, big parties. And I've never thought twice about
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  Speaker 1: hitch and ride with someone you know, kind of knew
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  Speaker 1: and going to the party and just assuming I would
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  Speaker 1: get home. Okay, I mean I never thought twice about it, Ashley, Right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: there's so many risk factors with college anyways, But think
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  Speaker 1: about the parties. I grew up in Texas and at
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  Speaker 1: Texas school. The same way you go out to the lakes, Dude,
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  Speaker 1: go tubing, and you have huge parties on the river,
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  Speaker 1: on the lake. And one of the things Nancy is
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  Speaker 1: to keep in mind that it's not just about going
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  Speaker 1: to the party. It's all the associated risk factors. You
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  Speaker 1: don't know who's there, or you may choose to have
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  Speaker 1: a drink, you may have too many drinks, or you
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  Speaker 1: may have something in a drink, even if it's just
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  Speaker 1: a soft drink so that somebody slipped in. There're just
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  Speaker 1: a lot of risk factors. The other thing that disturbs
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  Speaker 1: me in this case, we don't yet know did she
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  Speaker 1: know this guy? Maybe this was someone she was seeing
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  Speaker 1: that she was spending time with it she had a relationship.
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  Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, Ashley Wilcott guy, as you can find
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Askeley Wilcott dot com. But as I've been telling
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  Speaker 1: you a lot breaking in the last twelve to twenty
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  Speaker 1: four hours, take a listen to Fox thirteen Memphis reporter
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  Speaker 1: Greg coy Redon Thiefsfeld grew up in Fort Worth, Dallas
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  Speaker 1: area in Texas. Of course, but tonight he is in
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  Speaker 1: a Fayette County jail and he's awaiting trial for murder.
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  Speaker 1: But we got a chance to look at his social
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  Speaker 1: media accounts before they were purged, and we found out
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  Speaker 1: that he wasn't trying to hide or who simply was
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  Speaker 1: unaware that the police were looking for him for murder.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: This surveillance picture shows Brandon Thievesfeld walking into a gas
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: station Monday morning in South Memphis to buy gas and juice.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: The twenty two year old murder suspect, unaware the officers
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: were following him and ready to arrest him. Cossipolis I
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: checked his social media accounts. Gone is his Facebook account,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: but before it was removed, we found pictures of him
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: with friends and a two thousand and seventeen posts that
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: criticizes Old miss decision to remove a Confederate statue on campus.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: On Twitter, I found three retweets from him two days
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: after Alexandria Ali Costiel's body was found. Crime Stories with
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Brandon Fiasfelt's father is an anesthesiologist in the
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Dallas Fort Worth area. He is speaking out saying that
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: his son is innocent. He's asking people to withhold judgment
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: of Brandon for now. Twenty two year old Brandon Fiefsfeld
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: is a student at Old Miss University. He was arrested
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Monday afternoon and held over night in the Lafayette County,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Mississippi jail. Today, he made his first court appearance on
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: charges of murdering twenty one year old Ali Castile. The
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: suspect's father is a doctor in Fort Worth and runs
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: a pain clinic. Doctor Daniel Thiasfield released a statement saying,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I know my son is innocent, and I have reason
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: to believe that. I can't share anything now, but I
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: would ask everybody to please give him the presumption of
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: innocence until proven otherwise. Okay, I'll do that. I'll give
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: him the presumption of innocence. You are hearing from KMOV
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: news reporter Russell kin Saul reporting on Brandon Thieasfield's father.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Who is Brandon Thiasfield? What could the father know that
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: nobody else knows? With me? Ashley Wilcott, Jason Oceans, Karen Smith,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Karen Stark, doctor Michelle Dupree, and Ellen Colorne. Who is
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Brandon Thiefield? Ellen Colorine? What do we know? We know
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: that Brandon was also taking summer classes at Old mess.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: We know that Brandon and Ali were photographed together as
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: far back as a two thousand and sixteen, which would
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: have been both of their freshman year, So they've known
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: each other. We hold on, let me process what you're saying.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: They've known each other since two thousand sixteen. That's right, Okay,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: it's two thousand nineteen. Now, if that were their freshman year,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: that would have been the fall, the fall of two
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen, So fall two seventeen, two eighteen. So
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: they've known each other about two and a half years,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: because it's not fall of two thousand nineteen yet, but
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: two and a half three years. And there's a picture
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: of them together. Ellen, Are they at a dance or
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: do they happen to be standing next to each other
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: at a party, golf club event? I mean, what's the
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: context of the photo? Well, there are multiple photos, Nancy,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: but all of them appear to be taken at some
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: kind of a social gathering. In one or possibly two
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: of the photos, they are addressed. They're wearing late is
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: there a dresses though they've gone to an event. That's
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: a Hawaiian That seems it's very effessive. They have their
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: arms around each other. These aren't random candid photos. They're
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: posing for the camera. They know each other. Well, wait
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Okay, Karen Starts,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: psychologist from Manhattan. Granted, they know each other, and I'm
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: not saying that they're not or we're not dating. But
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: you know, when you're at a college event and you're
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: at a Hawaiian party, everybody's wearing a lay, everybody's dressed Hawaiian,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and you can walk up to anybody and put your
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: arm around them. I mean, when I do a book
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: signing or any kind of event, every person comes up
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: to me, I give them a big hug. But that
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean I'm dating them, not that I know of anyway. So,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Karen Start, a lot can be construed by body language. Agree, disagree? Oh,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: without doubt. You can definitely look at body language. Except
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: it seems to me, Nancy, if you look at the
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: photograph that they're comfortable with each other. They seem that
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: she seems to relaxed, he seems to RelA It doesn't
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: look like a stranger. Okay, I agree that they've got
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: to know each other. You know, doctor Michelle Dupree, medical
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: examiner or author of homicide investigation Field Guy, we know
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: she suffered of eight gunshot wounds. Now we're getting information
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: from a friend of Brendan these fells and the father's
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: insisting he's innocent. His father that he often would carry
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: a glock weapon in his car, in his truck that
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: had eight rounds in it. What do you make of that?
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Doctor dupre Well answered that so many is a coincidence,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: and you know what we say and unfortunate. We don't
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: really like coincidences. So what would happen is when the
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: bullets are recovered from the body, they would test fire
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: the gun and match that up to see if the
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: bullets were fired from that weapon. I want to go
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: to Karen Smith, forensics expert, a founder of Beer Bones
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Consulting way in Karen, Doctor Dupree is right on. That's
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: actually what they're gonna do. Any bullets that are recovered
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: from the body, they'll do microscopical examination on those. The
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: striations that are created when the bullet is fired through
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the muzzle, those are kind of like a fingerprint on
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: that projectile. They'll test fire the gun that was found
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: in Brandon's truck and they'll do a microscopical comparison. And
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: you know, the chances that another gun fired that bullet
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: are absolutely astronomical. So that is some really, really serious
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: forensic evidence that they're going to have to overcome. If
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: that's the case, well, I'm looking at a photo right
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: now that Brandon these Fille's dad posted on Facebook calling
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: his son a quote gun tactile expert, and I'm guessing
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: there's a picture of a man bending over younger guy.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: The younger guy is at target. He's watching or supervising
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: a younger guy. It's shooting target practice. And I'm guessing
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: one of those guys, the younger one is Brandon, based
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: on what the dad posted his own dad posting his
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: son is a gun tactile expert. Take a listen to
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: our friends kmov. This is Russell KINSL. Castile was last
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: seen Friday night on a surveillance camera at a bar
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: in Oxford, Mississippi, where Old Miss is located. A deputy
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: found her body Saturday morning near a lake that's about
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: thirty miles from campus. Local media in Mississippi is reporting
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: she was shot eight times, but the Sheriff's department said
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: they can't confirm that until an optopsy is completed. A
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: relative of Castile's told News for that Ali and Brandon
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: dated off and on. They both were students at Old Miss.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: These fields from Fort Worth, Texas, but graduated high school
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: from Sant Marcus Academy, a private Baptist school in Sant Marcus, Texas.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Castile was attending summer school. She was a marketing major
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: and on track to graduate next year. The chancellor at
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Old Miss released a statement expressing sympathy for Castile's family,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: friends and classmates. A gofund me account has been set
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: up to help pay for funeral expenses. Guys, I'm learning
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: from Fox thirteen Memphis that Theaceville was tracked to a
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: gas station in South Memphis using his cell phone and
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: credit card. He was spotted entering the store at the
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: station wearing an Old Miss shirt. After his pickup truck
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: was spotted by a patrol officer. Cops swarmed the gas
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: station and blocked him there in the gas station, straight
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: back to Ellen Colora. What more do we know about
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: his detainment, Well, Nancy, one thing that I think is
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: important to know is how quickly he was arrested. Ali
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: was found dead hours after she was last seen, before
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: she could have even been reported missing, and investigators somehow
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: new enough to track Brandon these felt movements via his
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: cellphone on his credit card. Two days had gone by,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: he's in Memphis, Tennessee. That this police are already working
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: in cooperation with authorities in Lafayette County, and they surround
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: him at a gas station where we, like you said,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: he's seen not surveillancecare camera, wearing an old miss t shirt.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: We know that once when at the time of his
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: arrest there was blood on his clothes and authorities found
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: a weapon in his trucks. You know, to Jason Oceans,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: veteran criminal defense attorney, what a lot of people would
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: call good police work, Like me, a defense attorney, will
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: have a field day with that, claiming that cops honed
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: in on him first without considering other suspects. If the
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: arrest was that quick, I mean to me, two days
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: isn't that quick, But some people would argue it is.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree, Nancy. But you know, just here in
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: the very you know, circumstantial early stages and describing you know,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: everything that we're hearing doesn't doesn't look good for Brandon,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: but you know, ballistic texts, ballistic texts of the basic element. Right,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: it's not DNA or you know, sorting through any of that.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: So has been discussed that that'll be pretty you know,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: definitive as to matching the bullets to to that gun. So,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: at least at the moment, not looking good at all.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: To Karen Smith, forensic expert, founder of Bare Bones Consulting,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Karen weigh in on the ballistics, Well, you've got the
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: ballistics that we've talked about. Gun. If it's a block,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: that's the semi automatic in ejects casings. The casings can
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: also be matched to the gun. You have ejector pin marks,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: you have firing pin marks, those can also be microscopically
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: matched to the gun. Another thing I heard that blood
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: was found on the clothing. Wait, whoa whoa, whoa whoa
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: whoa whoa whoa whoa Karen Smith, Yeah, okay, you've gone
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: into warp warp five here, explain to everybody listening, what
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: do you mean by when a gun on a shot
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: is fied you late ejector pin marks. Just break down
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: what you just said. Sure, when you have a semi
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: auto matic gun, the casings automatically eject as the triggers pulled,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: and they usually eject up into the right off of
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: a glock that can position the shooter, that can position
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: where the person was along with maybe the ground is wet,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: there may be some shoeprints or scuff marks. Based on that.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: You take those casings that are fired and you can
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: do microscopic comparison of the firing pin mark. That's that's
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: where the firing pin strikes that casing and fires the
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: bullet out the gun. There's an ejector pin mark where
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the bullet is ejected. That's a small little mark on
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: the casing as well. So all of these ballistic tests,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: along with the projectiles that may have been recovered from
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: her body and from the ground, if that's the case,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: all of those can be linked right back to that
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: glock that was allegedly found in his car. In the
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: last hours, a very chilling and disturbing tweet emerges quote
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: she'll never see it coming quote did twenty two years
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: old Brandon Thespil, who's now accused of shooting Ala Costule
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: like a very disturbing gun tweet on the day Ali's
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: body is found. Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Friends say
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: that Ali Costal had no enemies and was the type
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: of person who would help anyone out. They can't understand
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: why anyone would want to bring her any harm. She
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: was last seen in Oxford, Mississippi, late Friday. The very
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: next day, Lafayette County deputies on routine patrol discovered the
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: victim's body near Harmontown, neighbors tell Fox thirteen Memphis. The
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: body was found by a picnic table near Sardis Lake,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: a popular gathering spot, and WBLT reports she had been
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: shot eight times back in Ali's home in suburban Saint Louis.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Her father, Keith posted on Facebook, we were visited by
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the Sunset Hills, Missouri police who communicated to us that
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: our beautiful dear Alexandria Ali Costel was the victim of
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: a homicide. You were hearing our friends at ABC. That
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: was Marcus Moore reporting. Now we know a twenty two
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: year old fellow student, Brandon Thisville, has been taken into custody.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: He was sworn by police at a local gas station.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: He was wearing an Olmy's T shirt, apparently had bloody
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: clothes in his truck, and a weapon was taken out
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: of his truck. Ali shot eight times straight out to
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Karen Stark, psychologist joining me. Karen Stark, the father is
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: insisting his son is innocent. What do you make of
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: it that he Then this is a doctor, medical doctor
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: who runs a paying clinic, is the father of Brandon
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Thisville says he has information that other people do not have.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: What do you make of it? Well, it's pastoral, Nancy.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: He's also his father, and you know, as a parent,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: it's very hard to believe that your child is capable
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: of this kind of a crime. So it doesn't surprise
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: me at all that his father would go out of
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: his way to say that his son is innocent. Does
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: he really have some kind of proof that his son
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: is innocent. I would be surprised because the police went
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: after him, But it doesn't surprise me that a father
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: would come to his son's defense. Yeah, to ask you
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Wilcot judge and trial lawyer, you can find her at
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: ask you Wilcot dot com, Ashley, what do you make
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: of him? The day Ali's body is found? And these
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: pictures do look like they were dating? That Hawaiian party
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: picture Eka was talking about, they do look like they're dating.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: You know, he's got his arm around her, she's got
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: her arm around him. It's not, you know, that probitive,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: but to me it looks like they're dating. But what
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: do you make of the day, her body's found, and
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: even if they weren't dating their friends and she's missing,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: and he is liking a tweet, and let me be clear,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: it is a computer generated image that he liked. It's
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: from that horrible game Call of Duty. And you've got
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: a gamer aiming a gun at an airport split with
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: a picture of a woman at the same location, and
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: it reads quote, She'll never see it coming now. That
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: post was liked by an account belonging to Brendan Thsfield reportedly,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Here's what I make of that, Nancy. Can you imagine
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: if I were on the bench, I would expect to
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: hear that as part of the evidence against him in
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: a trial against him for murder, because it goes to
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: premeditation or it also goes to showing circumstantial evidence that
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: he had the wherewithal it is the mindset that he
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: did it, but it's an admission of sorts. So you know,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I think it means that if he did this, it
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: was cold, it was calculated, and it goes to a
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: state of mind and that he did have the ability
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: to actually kill someone in cold blood. You know, it's
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: amazing to me how your whole life can change in
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: the span of just a couple of hours Ali was
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: last seeing. She had been I think out with friends,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: came home, and then she left again around midnight. At
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: ten thirty am, her body was found. Everything happened in
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: ten short hours, and Ali's gone. She's gone forever. Doctor
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Michelle du Pretty, medical examine or author of Homicide Investigation
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Field Guide. What more, if anything, can we learn from
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Ali Costile's body, Nancy, The body is a wealth of information.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Body is a crime see in and South. In crimes
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: like this, there may be trace evidence, hairs, fibers. We've
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: even live to single prints awful bodies, So there's still
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: a lot more information that we could gather. To Ellen
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: klaurin Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter, what more are
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: we learning? Rancy? Since we're talking about tweets that he likes,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: I thought I should mentioned a tweet that he actually
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: wrote himself. The very same day that Ali Costil's body
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: was found. He wrote a tweet himself on July twenty one,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: and it said it's a reference to the reference to
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: the song you Dropped a Bomb on Me, which is
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: an old old song, but the tweet says you dropped
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: a bomb on me my number one pick for groovy
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: song of the summer. Now, okay to Ellen, if you
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: don't mind, could you say that one more time, just
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: very slowly, you dropped a bomb on me, my number
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: one pick for groovy song of the summer. Guys, we're
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: learning more information. It's very unclear what the relationship was
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: like between the two of these leading up to her murder.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: But one of her friends wrote about her relationship with
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: these film on Twitter, and it's got to be confirmed. Quote.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: He harassed her for years, took advantage of her for years.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I spent countless nights holding Ali close, drawing her tears
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: about this monster. Okay to me, that says a lot.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: What about it, Ashley Nancy, I can't you know? That
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: says so what? Did they have a relationship? They didn't
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: have a good relationship, And a person to describe a
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: male and a female's life as a monster is indicative
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: of there being a lot of problems in that relationship
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: and it not being what I would call a good person. Guys,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: if you have any information at all, whether it's important
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: or not, if you know, if you know anything, please
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: call Lafayette County Sheriff's at sixty six two two three
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: four six four two one repeat six six two two
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: three four six four two one. We wait as justice unfolds.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Crime Story, signing off goodbye friend,