Latest / Crime Night / The Two-Faced Nurse: Nevine and Nahla's Deception
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Okay, try to picture this Alexandria deep summer, that kind
- 0:04Speaker 1: of heat that just presses down. You know, everything's still.
- 0:07Speaker 1: You're in this residential building camp ses are, and all
- 0:10Speaker 1: you hear is maybe the distant city.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Hum, that real oppressive quiet exactly.
- 0:15Speaker 1: But then something else starts creeping in. A smell faint
- 0:19Speaker 1: at first, kind of foul, sweet, almost ugh, coying, Yeah, cloying. Yeah,
- 0:24Speaker 1: you'd maybe ignored it first, but doesn't go away. It
- 0:27Speaker 1: gets thicker, stronger, definitely coming from under one specific door.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Uncle Malex door, Uncle Malex.
- 0:32Speaker 1: He's seventy four. Neighbors haven't seen it for days. First
- 0:36Speaker 1: it's just huh, that's odd. Then it's concerned. Then with
- 0:39Speaker 1: that smell, real.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Alarm because it becomes obvious what that smell is.
- 0:43Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the smell of death. Yeah, unmistakable. And then
- 0:46Speaker 1: someone notices the lock on his door. It's broken, forced,
- 0:49Speaker 1: The doors is kind of pushed loosely shut.
- 0:51Speaker 2: So not a natural death, not just someone passing away quietly,
- 0:55Speaker 2: No way.
- 0:55Speaker 1: This is violent, sinister. Then the police arrive, forensics, that
- 1:01Speaker 1: hush tension in the hallway. Okay, so let's get into this.
- 1:05Speaker 1: A quiet building, an old man a horrifying smell. This
- 1:09Speaker 1: deep dive, it really takes us into a case where appearances, well,
- 1:13Speaker 1: they weren't just deceiving, they were a weapon. So police
- 1:16Speaker 1: get the door fully open inside eerie, quiet but visually
- 1:22Speaker 1: total chaos.
- 1:23Speaker 2: A real contrast, right, big.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Time rooms just ransacked, drawers, yanked open, contents stumped out.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Someone was looking hard for something.
- 1:30Speaker 2: A frantic search, definitely.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Then they find him in the bedroom, Uncle Melick, on
- 1:35Speaker 1: the bed, but he's covered up with.
- 1:36Speaker 2: Loads of blankets, an attempt to hide the body. Delay discovery
- 1:39Speaker 2: looks like it.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Forensics gets to work. It's grim, a bad cut wound
- 1:44Speaker 1: to the head and clear clear signs of strangulation around his.
- 1:47Speaker 2: Neck, brutal. Do they know how long he'd been there?
- 1:49Speaker 1: They estimated about three maybe four days. The blood on
- 1:52Speaker 1: the bed was dry, which explains partly that awful smell
- 1:55Speaker 1: everyone noticed.
- 1:56Speaker 2: Right, decomposition setting in.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's something weird. The initial signs blood spatters
- 2:01Speaker 1: and stuff suggests a struggle happened near the front.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Door, near the entrance, not in the bedroom.
- 2:06Speaker 1: Right near the entrance. Then it looks like he was
- 2:08Speaker 1: dragged to the bedroom. So the final act the strangulation
- 2:11Speaker 1: probably happened on the bed.
- 2:12Speaker 2: So a struggle, forced entry, but the neighbors heard nothing.
- 2:16Speaker 1: That's the puzzle, exactly, broken lock, obvious fight, complete silence
- 2:21Speaker 1: reported how.
- 2:22Speaker 2: It's an immediate paradox, isn't it. You have this incredibly
- 2:26Speaker 2: violent scene, the ransacking, the struggle, the cause of death,
- 2:31Speaker 2: but somehow it's contained silent to the outside.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Makes you think was it planned? Opportunistic?
- 2:38Speaker 2: That's the question. The broken lock maybe suggests forced entry,
- 2:41Speaker 2: but the silence that's harder to explain. If it was just,
- 2:44Speaker 2: you know, a random break in gone wrong, it could
- 2:47Speaker 2: imply planning. Maybe the attacker knew how to be quiet,
- 2:50Speaker 2: or subdued him very fast, or know him somehow, possibly
- 2:53Speaker 2: and covering the body right that staging aspect, it's interesting,
- 2:56Speaker 2: is it panic, an attempt to delay things, or something
- 3:00Speaker 2: else disconnecting from the act. It adds another layer.
- 3:03Speaker 1: But that struggle near the door, though, if it was
- 3:05Speaker 1: perfectly planned for silence, wouldn't they avoid that initial messy fight.
- 3:09Speaker 2: That's a really short point. Plans aren't always perfect, are they.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Maybe the plan was quiet entry, but Uncle Moloc resisted
- 3:15Speaker 2: right away, forcing the violence immediately. Ah so an escalation exactly,
- 3:19Speaker 2: an escalation at the threshold. Then the assailant regains control,
- 3:22Speaker 2: moves him deeper inside, finishes it there. It's a mix,
- 3:26Speaker 2: perhaps of planning and reacting with extreme brutality when challenged.
- 3:30Speaker 2: Experienced criminals often adapt like that.
- 3:32Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about Uncle Malac himself, seventy four, widowed
- 3:37Speaker 1: years ago, his two sons, working out in the Gulf countries.
- 3:42Speaker 2: So quite isolated practically speaking.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Very neighbor said he was a good guy, but well
- 3:48Speaker 1: reclusive and famously frugal. Some even said miserly. The apartment
- 3:53Speaker 1: backed that up. Sparse, kind of uncounpt didn't spend much
- 3:56Speaker 1: on himself, not at all. His social life was basically
- 3:58Speaker 1: zero except for you guys. You'd see local coffee shop.
- 4:01Speaker 1: That was it. Okay, Now, amidst all the mess in
- 4:03Speaker 1: the apartment, they find this piece of paper near the bed,
- 4:06Speaker 1: receipt money transfer one hundred thousand Egyptian pounds received just
- 4:10Speaker 1: five days before the murder.
- 4:12Speaker 2: One hundred thousand egp. That's a significant amount, especially back then. Huge.
- 4:17Speaker 1: We're talking several thousand US dollars equivalent, especially for someone
- 4:21Speaker 1: living like he did.
- 4:22Speaker 2: But guess what the money wasn't there gone vanished?
- 4:26Speaker 1: No trace of it or any other large sums of
- 4:29Speaker 1: cash strongly points to theft.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, a clear motive emerging.
- 4:33Speaker 1: And it gets deeper. Police dig into his finances. Turns
- 4:36Speaker 1: out back in twenty sixteen he had something like two
- 4:39Speaker 1: million EGP in the bank a fortune then. Plus his
- 4:43Speaker 1: sons sent him money regularly and word was he kept
- 4:47Speaker 1: that cash at home, didn't trust banks.
- 4:49Speaker 2: Maybe wow, So he was sitting on a lot of
- 4:51Speaker 2: accessible cash.
- 4:52Speaker 1: Potentially exactly, And this suggests the killer knew that knew
- 4:56Speaker 1: about the money he kept hidden away. Yeah.
- 4:58Speaker 2: If you put all that together, his profile becomes tragically clear. Reclusive,
- 5:02Speaker 2: known to be wealthy, keeps cash at home. I mean
- 5:04Speaker 2: it's almost textbook victim targeting made him vulnerable extremely This
- 5:07Speaker 2: feels less random, more like a calculated hit for the money.
- 5:11Speaker 2: And the son's being abroad not knowing his day to
- 5:13Speaker 2: day contacts. That really hampered the police Initially a huge
- 5:17Speaker 2: information black hole.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Yeah, a real black hole. But the police did get
- 5:20Speaker 1: a break. Eventually, just led them somewhere even stranger. They
- 5:22Speaker 1: found out Uncle Miloc himself had followed a police report
- 5:25Speaker 1: about a month before he died against two against a
- 5:28Speaker 1: woman named Nevin Hassan Mohammed. He accused her of stealing
- 5:33Speaker 1: forty seven thousand.
- 5:34Speaker 2: Egp okay Nevan who is she.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Described as a nurse specialized in taking care of the elderly,
- 5:41Speaker 1: also did some cleaning for him. But here's the catch.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Let me guess they run her name and nothing.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Yeah, zero official records for any Nevin Hassan Mohammed, Like
- 5:50Speaker 1: she's a ghost, doesn't exist on paper.
- 5:52Speaker 2: Huh. And did Uncle Molac pursue the report?
- 5:55Speaker 1: Nope, filed it then never followed up. Just let it sit.
- 5:59Speaker 2: Weird right, very adds to the mystery.
- 6:02Speaker 1: So please turn to the only social context they know of,
- 6:04Speaker 1: the coffee shop friends. And one of them, an older guy,
- 6:07Speaker 1: actually remembers.
- 6:09Speaker 2: Nevin Ah a lead. What did he say about her?
- 6:11Speaker 1: Well, his description totally clashes with the thief accusation. He painter,
- 6:15Speaker 1: his polite, very kind war a veil said she was divorced,
- 6:18Speaker 1: a single mom, just struggling to get by support her kids.
- 6:21Speaker 2: The sympathetic figure totally.
- 6:23Speaker 1: Known at the coffee shop is hardworking, completely trustworthy. Apparently
- 6:28Speaker 1: Uncle Moloc and this friend met her right there, heard
- 6:32Speaker 1: her story, felt bad for her and offered her the
- 6:34Speaker 1: job cleaning some caregiving. She seemed grateful, accepted right.
- 6:38Speaker 2: Away, so the community of view was positive.
- 6:41Speaker 1: Overwhelmingly. They just couldn't believe Nevin would steal let alone. Yeah,
- 6:45Speaker 1: you know, they thought she was a good person, maybe
- 6:47Speaker 1: a misunderstanding with Uncle Moloc. They just didn't see her
- 6:50Speaker 1: as capable of anything bad.
- 6:52Speaker 2: This is where the manipulation really starts to show, isn't
- 6:54Speaker 2: it no official record? This persona crafted to inspire trust
- 6:58Speaker 2: and pity, and then she disappears right after the murder.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Screams fabrication.
- 7:02Speaker 2: Absolutely a deliberately constructed identity, and that stark contrast between
- 7:06Speaker 2: the kind, struggling mom image and the theft accusation. It
- 7:09Speaker 2: makes you question everything the community thought they knew about her,
- 7:12Speaker 2: classic grooming, essentially building trust to exploit it.
- 7:15Speaker 1: So a phantom suspect, accused but beloved vanished. After the murder,
- 7:21Speaker 1: police knew finding Devin was everything. They started digging through
- 7:24Speaker 1: CCTV from the coffee shop, hours and hours of footage,
- 7:28Speaker 1: painstaking work for sure. Eventually they get lucky, a blurry image,
- 7:33Speaker 1: but it's her.
- 7:34Speaker 2: Nevin did it help?
- 7:36Speaker 1: It was key because that blurry face it looked remarkably
- 7:41Speaker 1: like another woman, someone known to police, Nala Hassan.
- 7:45Speaker 2: Mohammed Nala, not Nevin exactly.
- 7:47Speaker 1: And when they pulled Nala's file is the polar opposite
- 7:51Speaker 1: of the non existent Nevin. Nala had a rap sheet
- 7:53Speaker 1: as long as your arm how long? Sixty six zero
- 7:57Speaker 1: sixty prior criminal convictions six d good grief for what everything? Theft, pickpocketing, prostitution,
- 8:05Speaker 1: drug offenses, fraud, involving public funds, even carrying knives a
- 8:09Speaker 1: whole career.
- 8:10Speaker 2: Wow.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Yeah, And the horrifying thought sinks in if Nevin is Nala,
- 8:15Speaker 1: this murder wasn't a one off. It was just the
- 8:17Speaker 1: latest most brutal act in a lifetime of crime.
- 8:19Speaker 2: Sixty convictions. That's not just a criminal, that's a professional.
- 8:23Speaker 2: The sheer audacity of creating this Nevin persona the caregiver,
- 8:27Speaker 2: It's stunningly calculating.
- 8:29Speaker 1: To fool everyone like that.
- 8:30Speaker 2: It shows incredible versatility too, that theft, fraud, drugs, violence,
- 8:33Speaker 2: She operated across so many criminal spheares. This wasn't someone dabbling.
- 8:37Speaker 2: This was a hardened, adaptable predator.
- 8:39Speaker 1: In the psychology of it, living that double life, switching
- 8:43Speaker 1: between Nevin the caring nurse and Nala the career criminal.
- 8:47Speaker 2: It suggests a profound lack of empathy, almost sociopathic, the
- 8:52Speaker 2: ability to compartmentalize, to manipulate emotions so effectively it's genuinely chilling.
- 8:58Speaker 2: She perfected the mass.
- 9:00Speaker 1: It really is astounding. How long could someone keep that up? Anyway,
- 9:04Speaker 1: the police tracked Nala down pretty quickly after that. ID
- 9:07Speaker 1: found her in a rented chalet another part of Alexandria.
- 9:10Speaker 1: She was running some kind of illicit business there.
- 9:12Speaker 2: And her reaction when they caught.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Her, that's maybe the creepiest part. She was completely calm, m,
- 9:18Speaker 1: like unnervingly cool about it, just ask them are you
- 9:21Speaker 1: here about Uncle Malick? Just like that, just like that,
- 9:24Speaker 1: and then without skipping a beat, she says, yes, I
- 9:26Speaker 1: killed him, totally matter of fact, like talking about the website.
- 9:29Speaker 2: Chilling, no remorse, no panic.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Non apparent, just a flat admission, and from her confection,
- 9:35Speaker 1: this disturbing picture just unfolded. She talked about her long
- 9:39Speaker 1: history and crime, how she was always looking for better,
- 9:41Speaker 1: easier ways.
- 9:42Speaker 2: To operate, evolving her methods.
- 9:44Speaker 1: Yeah, and she decided adopting this humanitarian role caring for
- 9:48Speaker 1: the elderly was a great strategy. It gave her access,
- 9:52Speaker 1: access to Holmes, access to vulnerable people she could steal from.
- 9:56Speaker 2: That's a disturbing level of strategic thinking for criminal, moving
- 10:01Speaker 2: from petty crime to actively weaponizing caregiving exactly.
- 10:05Speaker 1: She said that Nevin persona was purpose built, veiled, divorced
- 10:09Speaker 1: kids to support, all, designed to make people feel sorry
- 10:12Speaker 1: for her, trust her implicitly.
- 10:14Speaker 2: And she targeted Uncle Malak specifically.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Yep. Overheard of the coffee shop talk lonely old man
- 10:20Speaker 1: probably had money stashed away. She offered her services, played
- 10:23Speaker 1: the part, and he led her right into his life,
- 10:25Speaker 1: his home, and once inside she paid attention, saw the
- 10:28Speaker 1: missy apartment confirmed who was reclusive, noticed his extreme frugality
- 10:32Speaker 1: and figured correctly that meant he had cash.
- 10:35Speaker 2: Didn't take her long to act on that. I bet.
- 10:37Speaker 1: First day, she said, while cleaning the bedroom, found a
- 10:41Speaker 1: stash of money in his wardrobe. Didn't even know how
- 10:43Speaker 1: much it was, just grabbed it, walked out with forty
- 10:45Speaker 1: seven thousand EGP.
- 10:46Speaker 2: Just like that on day one, just like.
- 10:49Speaker 1: That, And she quickly realized he hadn't even noticed it.
- 10:52Speaker 2: Was gone because of his habits. Right, just stuffing money
- 10:55Speaker 2: away without counting exactly.
- 10:57Speaker 1: She knew his psychology, so she takes that forty seventh
- 10:59Speaker 1: thou uses it to rent the chalet, gets back into
- 11:02Speaker 1: her main line of work, prostitution, apparently buys herself some
- 11:06Speaker 1: breathing room. Didn't need to go back to Uncle Molac
- 11:08Speaker 1: for about.
- 11:09Speaker 2: A week, smart in a twisted way, using the proceeds
- 11:13Speaker 2: of one crime to facilitate another.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Right. But then a week later, Uncle Malac does realize
- 11:19Speaker 1: the money's gone, and that's when he filed the police
- 11:22Speaker 1: report against Nevin.
- 11:23Speaker 2: Okay, so the clock starts ticking for her, even if
- 11:25Speaker 2: she doesn't know it yet.
- 11:26Speaker 1: Right fast forward a month, Nala, still playing Nevin, goes
- 11:29Speaker 1: back to the coffee shop, just casually drops in, and
- 11:33Speaker 1: the regulars, totally clueless, tell her about the police.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Report and what was their advice get this?
- 11:39Speaker 1: They felt sorry for her. They told Nevin she should
- 11:42Speaker 1: go talk to Uncle Malac smooth things over, get him
- 11:44Speaker 1: to drop the charges. They were annoyed at him for
- 11:46Speaker 1: accusing this poor struggling woman.
- 11:48Speaker 2: Unbelievable, The deception was total. They were advocating for their
- 11:52Speaker 2: own predator.
- 11:53Speaker 1: Crazy, isn't it. But Nalla heard police report and panicked
- 11:58Speaker 1: real instant fear. She bolts from the coffee shop, goes
- 12:01Speaker 1: straight to Uncle Malac's building.
- 12:02Speaker 2: To confront him or silence him.
- 12:04Speaker 1: Tries to confront them first, get him to drop it, maybe,
- 12:07Speaker 1: but he's terrified now. He refuses to open the door,
- 12:10Speaker 1: tells her to go wait at the coffee shop for
- 12:11Speaker 1: an hour. He'll meet her there, which sounds like a trap,
- 12:15Speaker 1: and Nalin knew it. Her criminal sixth sense kicked in hard.
- 12:18Speaker 1: She didn't go near the coffee shop. She hung back,
- 12:21Speaker 1: watched the building.
- 12:22Speaker 2: Smart move from her perspective, definitely.
- 12:24Speaker 1: And sure enough she gets word through her network informants
- 12:28Speaker 1: other criminals maybe that Uncle Malac had called the coffee shop,
- 12:32Speaker 1: told him to keep Nevin there. When she showed up,
- 12:34Speaker 1: police were on their way.
- 12:35Speaker 2: So her paranoia was justified.
- 12:37Speaker 1: He was setting her up, he was, and that lit
- 12:40Speaker 1: the fuse for Nala pure rage. She felt cornered, her
- 12:43Speaker 1: whole criminal enterprise or freedom on the line, and Uncle
- 12:46Speaker 1: Malak his courage in reporting her and trying to trap her.
- 12:52Speaker 1: She saw it as this unforgivable insult, a challenge she
- 12:54Speaker 1: couldn't ignore.
- 12:55Speaker 2: So it became personal, not just about avoiding arrest.
- 12:58Speaker 1: It seems so she decided then and there he had
- 13:02Speaker 1: to die. That same night, before dawn, she comes back.
- 13:08Speaker 1: She's got tools. She breaks in a broken lock. That's
- 13:10Speaker 1: when it happened. The noise wakes him up. He tries
- 13:13Speaker 1: to fight back. There's that struggle near the door.
- 13:15Speaker 2: Where she hit him with the screwdriver.
- 13:16Speaker 1: Likely yeah. Then she overpowers him, drags him to the
- 13:19Speaker 1: bedroom and the way she killed him so cold, throws
- 13:23Speaker 1: blankets over him, piles them on, and then just sits
- 13:26Speaker 1: on top of him, uses her weat to suffocate him, methoughtical, utterly,
- 13:31Speaker 1: and after he's dead, she doesn't just run. She stays
- 13:34Speaker 1: for a full hour. She calmly searches the entire.
- 13:37Speaker 2: Apartment looking for the rest of the money, and.
- 13:39Speaker 1: She finds it that one hundred thousand EGP from the
- 13:42Speaker 1: recent transfer. Takes it. Then she just walks out, bold
- 13:46Speaker 1: as anything, completely confident that Nevin doesn't exist, that she's untraceable,
- 13:50Speaker 1: goes straight back to her shela, back to being Nalla,
- 13:52Speaker 1: already thinking about the next score, the next victim.
- 13:54Speaker 2: Wow, the coldness is staggering.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Her confession apparently delivered with that same attachment, sealed her
- 14:01Speaker 1: fate went to trial, convicted, sentenced to death.
- 14:04Speaker 2: You know, this case goes beyond just crime and punishment,
- 14:07Speaker 2: doesn't it. It taps into something darker, a really corrosive kind
- 14:11Speaker 2: of hatred. I mean, from her statements, her attitude, it
- 14:15Speaker 2: feels like she genuinely believed that people who had normal, peaceful,
- 14:19Speaker 2: maybe financially secure lives somehow owed her because her life
- 14:23Speaker 2: was hard, like their happiness was an affront, a debt
- 14:26Speaker 2: she was entitled to.
- 14:27Speaker 1: Collect collect through crime through violence.
- 14:29Speaker 2: Exactly. That complete lack of remorse, even for murder. It
- 14:33Speaker 2: points to this profound disconnect, this warped worldview where she's
- 14:37Speaker 2: always the victim, always justified, no matter what she does.
- 14:41Speaker 2: Her suffering in her mind gave her a license.
- 14:44Speaker 1: That's a terrifying thought.
- 14:45Speaker 2: It is, and it shows how someone can twist trust,
- 14:48Speaker 2: twist empathy, the very things that hold society together into weapons,
- 14:51Speaker 2: using the expectation of kindness against the vulnerable.
- 14:54Speaker 1: So what's the takeaway for us for you listening? I mean,
- 14:57Speaker 1: it's a chilling reminder, isn't it. Sometimes the most convince
- 15:00Speaker 1: sing masks, the most sympathetic stories, hide the absolute worst realities.
- 15:04Speaker 2: The Neven Knollys story is a stark warning.
- 15:07Speaker 1: It really is a testament to how powerful deception can
- 15:10Speaker 1: be and why, maybe, just maybe little caution to little,
- 15:13Speaker 1: healthy skepticism is crucial. Even when a face seems kind
- 15:17Speaker 1: or a story pulls your heart strengths, it leaves you
- 15:19Speaker 1: wondering how many other Nevins might be out there, hiding
- 15:22Speaker 1: right under our noses.