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#247: Silent Night, Deadly Night Part 2 · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello. What's your least favorite scary
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  movie Red Car? Welcome to what's your least
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  favorite scary movie? The podcast, Are we talking
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  about the goods, about the ugly and the absurd and all of our
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  favorite and my favorite scary movie is because we believe
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  every horror movie rightfully has its fan base, even if we
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  don't always get it. My name's Jesse.
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  Sorry, my name is Travis. I didn't.
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  I'm sorry. I meant to do my port.
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  This is what's your favorite scary movie?
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  Happy Happy holidays, everybody. Oh, my God.
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  I'm sorry. I've been waiting to hear what
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  the opening quote was gonna be because, like, the best part is
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  to follow. He's, like, Red Car.
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  Good point. Oh, my God.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  So if you couldn't tell from that opening line and clicking
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  on the episode title itself, we're talking about Silent
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  Night, Deadly Night Part 2 today.
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  Yeah, finally, I'm. So excited.
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  Yeah, I've, I've wanted to talk about this for many Decembers,
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  it's just December has so much shit going on.
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  There's a lot, there's a lot of Christmas horror movies out
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  there, so. Yeah.
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  And we are, I think, yeah, this is a good time, OK, This is a
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  good time for it. So before we get into it, do we
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  have anything that needs to be announced?
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  Yes, this weekend we will be doing our to be or not to be, so
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  be on the lookout for that. That's true, and it's gonna be
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  my pick. And you can guarantee that I'm
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  gonna have some kind of shitty movie on there.
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  Or a good one, I don't know. Yeah.
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  That's wow. What a bold take to just come
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  right out the gate. You don't even know what you're
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  gonna pick yet. I know but I feel like whenever
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  I pick the Christmas ones are usually last year last.
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  Year was not great. I can't remember what we chose
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  the year before that, but yeah, All right.
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  Well, then I guess that means we'll go on to our poll.
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  So our poll was whether or not it's you guys think Black Chris,
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  not Black Christmas, Black Friday is worth the hassle of
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  going out and dealing with the crowds like that of the one from
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  the Thanksgiving movie we watched last week.
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  The vote was 91% saying that it's not worth it, OK, and 9%
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  saying that it is worth it. OK.
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  Yeah. All right.
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  I don't. Interesting.
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  Yeah. And I think that we kind of
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  briefly talked about it on that episode last week because of
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  that scene. And I don't think that it's
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  worth it. Definitely not.
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  And in fact we we did not do it so.
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  Yeah, yeah. I mean true.
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  To our our words. It's pretty much all online
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  anymore anyways. Was my.
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  Yeah, we did do quite a bit of online shopping.
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  Speak for yourself. I didn't buy a single Black
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  Friday deal. I did quite a bit online
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  shopping. So yeah.
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  Yeah, Apple. So yeah.
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  All right, cool. So let's get into some Sally
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  Night Deadly Night too. How's about that?
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  So Sally Night, Deadly Night, Part 2 release April 10th, 1987.
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  The perfect April movie. Yeah, Yeah.
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  I don't understand that release window, but what, you know,
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  whatever. We've had Halloweens in July, so
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  you know, it happens. We watched it on Shutter, but if
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  you want to watch it anywhere other than Shutter, you can
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  watch it on Prime, The Roku Channel, AMC Plus to be Shutter
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  Pluto. But I mean there's like 500
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  different. Things that you can watch this
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  on it's freebie. Yeah, I mean, it's on like a
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  shit ton of stuff, so you can find it just about anywhere,
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  honestly. You can pay for it, you can rent
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  it, you can stream it. If you want to rent it, you can
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  do that on YouTube, Apple, Amazon, all the other normal
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  places. Written by Lee Harry, Joseph H
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  Earl, Dennis Patterson, and Lawrence Applebaum, with
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  characters from Michael Hickey and Paul Kamey.
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  Directed by Lee Harry, music by Michael Armstrong and special
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  effects by Chris Biggs. OK.
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  Starring. Jason to Jason.
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  You know, I kind of thought the same thing.
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  He found his route in special effects and his brother was like
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  American Pie. Yeah, that's my key right there.
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  All right. Starring Eric Freeman as Ricky
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  Caldwell, James Newman as Doctor Henry Bloom, Elizabeth Katan as
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  Jennifer Jean Miller as Mother Superior, Brian Michael Henley
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  as Ricky, age 12, and Daryl Gilbo as Ricky, age 17.
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  Now they had him credited as Ricky, age 15, but I remember in
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  the movie they said 17. Yeah, yeah, 'cause his dad died
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  five years after he was 12, so he was 17.
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  And then when he was 18 and working, suddenly he was Eric
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  Freeman. Yeah.
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  You know what's really funny? Like the the ages that they have
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  as the characters are just two years back because they have him
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  credited as Ricky, age 10. And I remember he said he was
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  age 12 when he got adopted. So that just kind of goes into
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  even more of the weird bizarreness that is.
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  What a beautiful mess this movie is.
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  I know it's lovely, right? Like at every single level it's
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  like it's fucking up in. Disasters all the way.
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  Down, but in the best way, in like the most entertaining ways,
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  like they're they're 2 two year difference.
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  It's just, it's so stupid and so mild, but I love it.
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  Yeah, two would almost kind of make a difference, like having a
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  different person for 15 versus 18.
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  Weird, but makes a little bit more sense than 17 versus 18.
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  A funny thing that I read about that is the guy that played him
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  at 17 was actually like five years older than Eric Foreman.
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  Freeman. Freeman I keep thinking Eric
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  Foreman in my head when I see his name.
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  So yeah, I don't know. There's just so much weird with
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  this movie. But that leads us into our
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  favorite part of the show budget or.
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  Bug Ted? Well, considering they only made
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  half a movie, I'm going with Bug Ted.
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  Yeah, yes. It is in fact a very, very bug
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  Ted movie. The bug Ted that I have for this
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  is 250,000. Well, opening box office.
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  So I just had general box office numbers for what I made in
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  theaters, which was 154,000. But Blu-ray and all that other
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  stuff, it has to now. I believe the number is 253,000.
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  OK. All right, so it's made some
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  money. 3000 in the green, yeah, Good job.
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  Yeah. Or in the black.
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  Eventually. It's in the black when it's
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  accounting, right I. Don't know Green Green's good
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  generally, so let's just say Green OK IMDb 3.9 out of 10.
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  Way harsh tie. That's the lowest of all of the
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  movies that I have picked for 1987, right?
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  But don't you worry because I have a fun and fitting theme for
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  1987. I'm excited for this theme.
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  This was the year of the so good or so bad It's good.
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  OK. All right, please.
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  Legend. Enliven me.
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  Legendary movies were released this year, including Silent
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  Night, Deadly Night too. You can't forget that one.
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  But we'll start it off with movie number one, Blood Harvest.
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  Oh, OK, so if you are not familiar, that is the movie
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  starring Tiny Tim as a killer clown.
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  And it is a wild movie. I'm pretty sure you were
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  watching that one day when I was sick and I like, woke up from a
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  fever and it was just Tiny Tim on screen and I was like, is
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  this real? And then I felt like asleep.
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  Yeah, I watched it for the first time.
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  I think it was on the last drive in if he did an episode and they
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  had like a Tiny Tim expert come on to talk about how weird Tiny
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  Tim is. So it was kind of a fun time.
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  It's a it's a fun movie. It's pretty fun.
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  It it gets out there, but you know that to go into the theme
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  here, it's so bad. It's good that released January
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  1st, 1987. Don't have a budget?
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  Don't have a gross IMDb 4.6 second movie Blood Rage yes.
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  We just watched this. It's part of our annual
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  Thanksgiving tradition. Yeah, if you don't watch this
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  every Thanksgiving, you need to change that.
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  It's it's so perfect for a Thanksgiving watch.
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  So that. Released May 1st, 1987.
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  No budget, no gross. IMDb.
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  This is shocking 5.8. Hell yeah, brother.
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  Wow, I can't believe it's like almost out of six.
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  I've seen so many objectively good movies with way lower
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  scores than that. Yeah.
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  It's a good movie. Like honestly, it is fun, it's
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  entertaining. There's so much good about.
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  That there are really good special effects that.
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  Yeah, there are. They didn't.
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  They didn't deserve that man. I think that's the key with all
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  of these movies here is they have pretty solid effects all
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  the way through, including Silent Night, Deadly Night,
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  Tune. All right, Final movie.
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  We know it. We love it.
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  We've talked about it. Doom Silent.
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  Yeah, Dumasilem came out October 28th, 1980.
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  Seven $90,000 budget. Don't have the gross but a 4.6
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  IMDb square. I can't believe Dumasilem has a
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  higher rating than Simon. I delete.
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  I'm pretty. I know.
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  Well, OK, there are legitimate concerns or criticisms that can
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  be made with Silent Night Deadly Night Part 2.
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  And there aren't with Doom Asylum.
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  Yes, but I think with Doom Asylum, it's a fresh movie.
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  That's true. With Silent Night Deadly Night
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  Part 2, we've not seen the first one, just so everybody knows
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  here, and that is why we are doing the second one instead of
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  doing the first one. No, we are doing the second one.
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  So the first one, because the second one gives a very
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  comprehensive recap of the first one.
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  Hence the issue that I'm saying yes, it's 40 minutes of footage
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  from the first movie. If you have watched the 1st
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  movie and you go into this movie, that's not a good sell.
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  No. So that I can understand
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  deducting like a whole point. I guess.
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  We're gonna get into that here in a little bit in my Fun Facts.
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  OK. But before we do that, we got
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  tag lines. Yay tag lines.
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  Only got two. Yeah, kind of disappointing.
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  I hope there's like a tagline for every installment of the
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  movie. So like sound like Deadly 9?
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  Part 3 has three taglines, Part 4 has four, Part 5 has 5.
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  I would hope that they would do that, but I don't have faith in
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  them. To do that, I don't either.
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  There's no way. OK, so the one in the sun in the
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  poster is the nightmare is about to begin again.
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  I guess. Yeah, it's OK.
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  I kind of like this one. Prayers won't save you in the
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  silent part of this night. It was a good start.
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  It needed another pass. Like, it needed a little bit of
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  teamwork to clean it up because it, you know, the prayers thing,
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  like, OK, yeah, see, I get it because of the Catholic
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  orphanage, but then it gets a little clunky there at the end.
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  I like it. It works for me.
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  I like it. I would have put that one on a
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  poster over the first one. OK, so Are you ready to do fun
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  facts? Absolutely.
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  All right, so. We, Harry, Joseph H Earl and
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  Dennis Patterson, we're all editors at Lawrence Applebaum's
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  company. So they were doing editing, they
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  were doing trailers, they were doing all the things that would
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  go in through the door there. The original Silent Night Deadly
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  Night bombed really, really badly.
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  Did not do well. Wasn't it also partly like it
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  wasn't just that it bombed, It said there were groups actively
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  protesting against it because it was like kind of a satanic panic
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  a little bit. It was, but at the same time I
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  can't remember if I heard this right.
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  I know that some things have done this, but I thought that
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  they encouraged the protest because it was like giving them
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  the press that they wanted for it.
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  Yeah, I think that they were advertising that they got that
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  type of press from their horror movie.
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  But there were people that were really upset because I guess the
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  idea of a killer Santa was just really not their thing, even
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  though it's kind of been a thing for a while.
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  Yeah. Like this wasn't the 1st movie
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  to ever do this. I don't understand why people
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  were up in arms about this one. But yeah, it didn't do too well.
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  So the rights were sold to Tristar and they contacted Harry
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  and wanted him to do a recut of the movie.
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  So their initial ask was take the first movie, recut it,
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  rescore it, release it as a sequel or a re release.
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  But they really were like we can make it a sequel, just recut it.
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  Just like chop it up a little bit and do something different
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  with it. OK, He wasn't really into that
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  idea. I mean, he's an editor, so he's
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  like, I can make like move shit around and make different
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  things. But like him and the three of
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  the other writers that I've said many times, Earl Patterson and
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  Harry, they sat down, they did a quick treatment and they just
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  added on enough to at least have some part of a different sequel
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  to actually include with this. And they made their case and
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  they're like, look like we can do this, but we really, really
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  need to at least make something new to call it a sequel.
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  Yeah. So they let them do it, but they
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  gave them a tiny, tiny budget to do so.
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  They were only able to do 40 minutes. 49 minutes.
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  Yeah, of original content. Yeah, like we have.
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  Was it 39 minutes? It's 39 minutes is the like when
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  it starts switching over to a new story?
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  Yeah. And they ended up filming it in
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  10 days. Wow.
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  So it was a really, really quick turn around, too.
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  Yeah. He said that they had, like, a
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  decent team of people, too. Like, they like, gave them
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  money. They just didn't really have
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  much time. They they really had to, like,
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  bang it out real fast. Apparently, he originally wanted
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  actor David Heavner to play Ricky, but the producers wanted
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  Eric Freeman and said David Heavner came in and gave like a
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  more like creepy performance of the reading, which they were not
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  really thrilled with the producers.
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  They wanted Eric to play more of like the over the top type
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  character. OK, Yeah.
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  And really, whenever it came to the directing, according to
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  Eric, and this was confirmed by Harry, Harry didn't really give
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  him much direction for what to do.
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  He basically told them hit your mark.
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  He really wanted to get the shot and that was this primary focus
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  whenever you're getting stuff. So I guess as long as you hit
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  your marks, everything looks good on camera, we're fine.
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  I mean that makes sense if you only have 10 days to shoot.
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  Yeah, it does. However you.
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  Got to get that shit done. Joseph H Earl was really in his
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  ear to like, ham it up even more, like make it bigger each
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  time. So he kept getting conflicting
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  direction from everybody. So he didn't really.
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  That's why we get such a confusing performance from him.
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  Yeah, like sometimes he acts like a normal human being.
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  The other times it looks like he's trying to shake his
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  eyebrows off his face. Yeah, it's so weird.
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  Like it's so fun though. I I don't know, I love it.
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  They were actually wrote him as he described it.
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  He wanted the character to come across as like a Stephen King,
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  bigger than a life villain, and he like used the stand as an
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  example. OK, OK.
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  So that, I guess I don't really know the characters, but he, he
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  like was like, like, I really wanted to be like that.
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  That's how we wrote it on, like on paper.
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  That's what we envisioned. And that's not what they got.
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  No. Yeah.
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  What kind of a performance would that be like for those of us not
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  familiar with the Stand? I mean, yeah, he's like
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  cartoonishly evil, but, you know, like an adult cartoon, not
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  a Powerpuff Girls villain of the week.
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  See, he the way that he described the type of
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  performance he wanted. He wanted somebody like Negan
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  from Walking Dead. That's what he wanted Eric to
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  be. None of these descriptions are
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  descriptions that I would apply to Ricky.
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  OK, no, me neither. Yeah, which is like so
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  fascinating to think about. Like looking at this on script
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  and then compared to what we actually get, it's so wildly
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  different. The garbage day line was
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  actually in the script. It was not ad libbed.
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  They they did the whole massacre thing with a gun because they
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  just thought it would be interesting to have a whole gun
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  massacre in the middle of their horror film.
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  However, do you know if the man going no and holding up the
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  trash can was? In the back.
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  I mean, I imagine so. Like, they made it sound like
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  this entire thing was scripted. In fact, the script had them
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  going even harder with it. They were actually going to have
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  him, like, shooting a dog and stuff, too.
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  Yeah. So they didn't do that too far.
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  That that was too far. Yeah.
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  They did the stunt scene with that guy.
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  So for those of you who don't know or haven't seen it, there's
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  a movie or there's a stunt in the movie where he shoots a guy
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  that's driving by and the car flips over right next to him.
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  And they did that in a single take because they only had one
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  car and they couldn't fuck it up.
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  Apparently they chose the colors of the vehicles, like as red,
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  red car, red car, to like make it similar to Santa Claus's
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  colors. It was a very intentional
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  decision. Yeah, Santa Claus and his
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  notoriously red sleigh. Yeah.
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  I mean, I think it is normally red.
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  I think it's to be fair. Normally brown.
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  Not unknown. I don't think it's Brown.
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  Who are you to know? I don't think it's red.
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  He would just be like a red lump in the sky.
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  Yeah, but I mean, you don't even see brown.
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  Well, So what do you know? I see Brown great.
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  No, you do not. I don't see green.
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  Well, everything is brown to me. OK, that's fair.
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  And actually many of the kill scenes in this movie,
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  especially, According to him, the Umbrella kill scene were
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  heavily edited down because that and the sex scene in the movie,
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  we're gonna give this an X rating.
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  So they almost had an X rating with a small amount of footage
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  that they shot for this movie. I feel like they probably could
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  have kept some of the gore and just kept the weird naked bodies
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  pressed against each other for the sex scene.
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  Yeah. And we kind of get that.
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  Usually with the MPAA, you give them a little bit too much and
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  then if you pull back on a thing, it's like a negotiation,
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  you know? Yeah, I wonder if they had.
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  They saw the footage from the first one.
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  They're like, that's too gory. I'm like, you guys fucking said
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  yes to this already. You can't say that.
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  You can't do that again. OK, that's it for my fun facts.
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  OK, yeah, OK. Like, I mean, despite this being
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  such like a very well known cult classic, it's really not got a
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  lot of information out there. And in fact, like Eric Freeman
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  was really hard to find for a long time.
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  Like he vanished. They couldn't even get him for
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  commentaries until as recently as like the mid twenty 10s poor.
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  Guy, yeah, I hope he knows how much he has loved in the cult
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  film fandom. Yeah, if he shows up to scare
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  facts. He does cons now.
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  Yeah, yeah, don't worry. He he's very much aware of it.
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  Dear Adrian, yeah. He he's spoken about this.
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  I think he looks back at it finally.
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  He's actually taking acting back up again.
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  Too good. Yeah.
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  Good. Yeah.
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  I think people have like, finally just like, hey, it's
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  cool, man. You know we like it.
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  I went him in a movie with Dan and Eugene Levy, and it's just
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  all eyebrows. That's what the movie's called.
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  Just eyebrows. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  If you haven't watched it, anybody that's gonna watch it,
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  pay attention to his eyebrows. They are like off the fuck?
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  You don't have to pay attention hard.
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  They will catch. Your Yeah, you will catch your
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  eye. Yeah, they make themselves very
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  well known. He he ain't getting debris in
• 19:33
  his eyes. OK, so time for good, bad, ugly
• 19:38
  and absurd. So you kick it off.
• 19:39
  What do you like about this? Well it's so silly knowing that
• 19:45
  they were told they had to recut the movie.
• 19:48
  The 1st movie basically makes a lot more sense cause in my head
• 19:53
  I always pictured it as they had half an idea for a movie and
• 19:56
  they just kind of copped out by using the.
• 20:01
  Half of the original. Yeah, yeah, You could really
• 20:04
  read into it and not think too highly.
• 20:06
  But like, honestly, they fought for the one little bit of new
• 20:10
  movie that we do get. But I will say it almost kind of
• 20:13
  gives it like a mini like anthology feel to it, sort of.
• 20:17
  A little bit, yeah, Yeah. Cuz you get like, you know, you
• 20:20
  get Part 1 and then you get Ricky and Jennifer and then you
• 20:25
  get Ricky going after Mother Superior and the wrap around is
• 20:30
  the doctor's office. Yeah, you know, you're kind of
• 20:33
  right. You could really think of it as
• 20:35
  like a three short anthology movie, and I say all the.
• 20:40
  Time anthology movies are the most low stakes movies because
• 20:43
  if you don't like it, you're not committing to a full movie for
• 20:47
  each segment. So I and I like that we do get
• 20:51
  like essentially the first night, deadly night just right
• 20:53
  in there and like we get cutting away all the muss and fuss.
• 20:57
  And then we're also adding on all of this absurdity right to
• 21:00
  it. We've got some really
• 21:02
  interesting kills, I think especially that Umbrella one.
• 21:05
  It seems very implausible, but I don't even care.
• 21:08
  Like it's so funny, like it's just so well done.
• 21:10
  Honestly, I just love the idea of that.
• 21:13
  Yeah, I just, and this is like a holiday staple for us.
• 21:16
  We watch it every year, sometimes multiple times around
• 21:19
  Christmas time. Honestly, it's like, I love it
• 21:23
  for having the first one, but it's kind of not giving us the
• 21:26
  opportunity to watch the first one because we always watch this
• 21:28
  one. It's like, why watch the first
• 21:31
  one if we're getting the first one and the second one?
• 21:34
  I'm all about multitasking, so it works for me.
• 21:37
  I want to watch the first one though.
• 21:39
  We're watching it this year. If you're not watching it, I'm
• 21:42
  watching it by myself cuz I'm finally gonna watch it.
• 21:44
  Well, it's gonna be playing at the Kentucky so.
• 21:46
  Yeah, that's a good opportunity to watch it.
• 21:48
  Yeah, cuz there's like 40 minutes movie that we've not
• 21:51
  seen there, you know? I guess.
• 21:53
  I guess. We're we may be missing some
• 21:56
  context for Ricky and Billy there on some things.
• 22:00
  What's your good? Oh man, it's good in all of the
• 22:05
  ways it shouldn't be. Yes, it's so bad.
• 22:08
  It's good. And this is the perfect example
• 22:10
  of a movie that is like that because it is entertaining
• 22:14
  because of how poorly made it is.
• 22:17
  Like here's the thing, it's it's got enough to make it memorable.
• 22:21
  It's got the quotable lines that we have said many times.
• 22:24
  We've got things like, I like it when he's in there giving the
• 22:29
  doc a hard time and they're like, he's like asking all these
• 22:32
  like obvious questions like, oh really?
• 22:34
  Maybe we're just jerking off here then.
• 22:37
  Like, when he's like, do you miss your brother?
• 22:40
  Or when he's like, oh, your brother Evanage you at the
• 22:42
  orphanage? He was like, no, he turned 18.
• 22:46
  Like, yeah. It's so funny.
• 22:48
  I mean, these are all terribly line or terrible lines, but
• 22:52
  they're just like delivered in such a fun way.
• 22:54
  I mean red car. Good point.
• 22:58
  Those doctor's notes are insanity as well.
• 23:01
  They are. Yeah, they are.
• 23:03
  Absolutely gibberish. So it's got the quote ability.
• 23:07
  It's actually a decently well made film as far as like
• 23:13
  operations, camera working, all that stuff goes.
• 23:15
  He has said that he wants actually to make a silent
• 23:18
  version of this film because he wants people to actually
• 23:20
  appreciate the the camera work that goes behind all of this.
• 23:24
  Like they had dollies, they had all like all all the tools
• 23:27
  needed to get a good shot. And I don't know, I think they
• 23:30
  actually did a pretty good job. I mean, when you watch the movie
• 23:33
  and I was actually trying to keep an eye out for this when we
• 23:35
  were watching it, I was like, this is a good shot.
• 23:39
  This should work. This should be like good,
• 23:42
  objectively good. What is the thing that is making
• 23:45
  it not good? It's the dialogue, but it makes
• 23:48
  it good and it can't be a way. So it cancels out.
• 23:51
  And I guess like another good thing to say is it's just like
• 23:54
  a, it's a good way to tell the story with Ricky because like
• 23:58
  we're getting like the background of him, he's being,
• 24:01
  he's in the, I like the idea of him being in the, the hospital
• 24:05
  at the start. Like, all right, how did the
• 24:07
  fuck did he get here? How did the events of the 1st
• 24:09
  movie? And then what happened in
• 24:11
  between that and like him growing up led him to being
• 24:15
  hospitalized or whatever. And then he busts out at the end
• 24:18
  and he like goes after mother's superior.
• 24:20
  Like, I don't know, I kind of like it.
• 24:21
  It's fun. OK, that's my bad or that's my
• 24:24
  good. So what's your bad?
• 24:26
  I'm gonna disagree on some of the camera work stuff because
• 24:29
  there are a couple of too many shots up close of Eric Freeman's
• 24:34
  eyeballs. That's the that itself works.
• 24:39
  It's the acting. That I don't think it works.
• 24:42
  So you think you like a course up on somebody's eyes is like,
• 24:45
  like definitively like not a good shot for this.
• 24:47
  No, I think it's very much overused and it loses impact
• 24:52
  when you do it that often and it just feels like you don't really
• 24:55
  know. You really wonder.
• 24:56
  How to frame the shot the? Eyebrows to get their moment to
• 24:59
  shine. They took all of that moment to
• 25:02
  shine. Also mother superiors makeup.
• 25:07
  Generally. That's not what a stroke does to
• 25:09
  a person's face. Do the people, did Chris Briggs,
• 25:13
  Biggs, whatever his name is, did he not know what the stroke was?
• 25:17
  That is actually was one of my absurds here.
• 25:20
  OK, but they they recast her because the original actor was
• 25:25
  asking for too much money apparently.
• 25:27
  OK. Yeah.
• 25:29
  So there's that. And then also, like, I, I know
• 25:33
  part of the fun of this is how it's 2 movies in one.
• 25:37
  However, I would be remiss not to mention that that the first
• 25:41
  half of it is Part 1 because that's one of those things that
• 25:44
  drives me crazy about Friday the 13th is when they do the 1st 15
• 25:48
  minutes or the last 15 minutes of the previous one.
• 25:51
  Yeah. So it does still feel cheap.
• 25:54
  Oh yeah, OK. Yeah, I mean, now I know that
• 25:57
  that's on the studios part, but still.
• 26:01
  Yeah, I mean that like the retelling of Part 1 and Part 2
• 26:05
  is my biggest bad for this too. Like it, if you have seen the
• 26:09
  first one, it just kind of sucks, you know what I mean?
• 26:12
  It's just half of a movie. But I mean to us it's all new.
• 26:16
  So like as like a person that has not seen the first one, that
• 26:19
  doesn't bother me, but it would really bother me if I had seen
• 26:23
  the first one first. Yeah, it definitely ruins the
• 26:25
  marathon ability of these movies.
• 26:28
  Yeah. Another thing with part two,
• 26:31
  though, that I don't really care for is like a lot of the stuff
• 26:35
  that we get with Ricky is barely Christmas.
• 26:38
  Yeah, him being in the hospital, not not very Christmassy.
• 26:43
  I mean, even though it is on Christmas Eve, but like all of
• 26:46
  his events leading up to him being put into the hospital of
• 26:51
  these like killings that he does.
• 26:54
  It's just during the summertime. Yeah, it's because of his
• 26:58
  ex-girlfriend, not because of Christmas.
• 27:01
  Yeah, I mean, I think if you wanted to keep this in theme of
• 27:05
  it being a Christmas horror movie and the whole thing, the
• 27:08
  trigger that got his brother and him being Santa Claus, have them
• 27:12
  like be a series of shit that he's done around Christmas time
• 27:15
  growing up. You know, I feel like that makes
• 27:17
  a lot more sense for his character, but it is just kind
• 27:21
  of weird. Like, this is a Christmas movie
• 27:23
  with not a lot of Christmas other than the first movie that
• 27:27
  is inserted in here. Yeah.
• 27:28
  And a little bit thrown in at the end.
• 27:30
  Yeah. Because he finally does go,
• 27:32
  like, dresses up like, Santa and everything.
• 27:34
  But yeah. Yeah.
• 27:35
  I mean, that's pretty much it. Like, other than like the
• 27:37
  absurdly bad acting that goes on in this.
• 27:39
  OK. Ugly.
• 27:41
  There's a lot of non consensual sex happening.
• 27:46
  There is. It's and I get that part of that
• 27:50
  is meant to be a trigger for Ricky and Billy because of what
• 27:53
  Santa did to their mom. However, having that dropped
• 27:59
  upon our laps thrice in one movie is quite a bit.
• 28:05
  Rice I can think of twice. What's the third one?
• 28:08
  Santa and the mom, the employees in the back of the toy store.
• 28:13
  Oh yeah, and the picnic couple. Yeah.
• 28:15
  Yeah, you're right. OK.
• 28:16
  Yeah. It's just, it's on.
• 28:18
  It's it's, yeah. That's always a tough thing to
• 28:23
  watch, even in like a, you know, like a movie like this right
• 28:25
  here. So yeah, it is kind of weird
• 28:27
  that they did it so many times. But yeah, I guess it kind of
• 28:29
  does make sense if you're trying to do that.
• 28:31
  But I don't know, like do the Santa trigger, you know, that's
• 28:34
  like I. Say there are plenty of other
• 28:36
  triggering things yeah like it feels almost like for shock
• 28:40
  value and I just. Could be yeah.
• 28:44
  Mine is how Mother Superior was a terrible caretaker.
• 28:49
  She did shit like tie them up to their beds and just like slap
• 28:53
  the shit out of them. Yeah.
• 28:55
  She created trauma all on her own too.
• 28:58
  Like, yeah, he's scared of the nuns, but he should be like,
• 29:01
  there should be a killer nun around here too maybe.
• 29:04
  Or maybe he would dress up as a nun.
• 29:05
  Right, that would be interesting.
• 29:07
  Yeah, but it's not Christmas, you know, like you got to pick a
• 29:11
  lane with this. 1/3 Whoo OK. There's a lot of absurd that
• 29:24
  happens. I think I, and I've already
• 29:26
  mentioned this, but I'm going to mention it again, that they
• 29:29
  recast from 17 to 18 year old Ricky.
• 29:33
  That's the weirdest thing. Like a year's difference and he
• 29:37
  he drastically changes physically it's.
• 29:40
  So funny and I mean it wasn't like a bad casting for the
• 29:43
  slightly younger version of him. It's just a weird choice.
• 29:47
  I think if they actually made him 15 I would maybe buy it a
• 29:50
  little bit more, but they cast him I guess as 15 and in the
• 29:54
  movie said 17 so. Yeah, they did.
• 29:57
  Somebody did bad math somewhere, didn't proofread a script,
• 30:00
  something. Yeah, OK.
• 30:03
  Is that your only episode that you got?
• 30:04
  That's the one I'm gonna movies like this.
• 30:06
  I feel like I have to stick with like the bigger ones just
• 30:09
  because there's a lot to choose from.
• 30:11
  OK, I got a couple here. OK.
• 30:14
  First off, 90% of Ricky's memory is from Billy's perspective, and
• 30:18
  even then, some of it isn't from his perspective.
• 30:21
  Some of it is shit that he had no business knowing because
• 30:24
  Billy wasn't even around to know about it.
• 30:25
  Like the thing with the dad getting busted by the cops going
• 30:30
  into his daughter's window to pretend to be Santa Claus.
• 30:33
  How's Ricky telling that story? I mean.
• 30:37
  How does Billy know anything that happened to Ricky since he
• 30:41
  like pops up and then dies? Like he doesn't know anything
• 30:44
  that happened after he left the orphanage basically.
• 30:46
  Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
• 30:47
  Like he doesn't know all this shit.
• 30:49
  Yeah. He's telling these stories to
• 30:51
  the doc. It's so funny.
• 30:53
  He saw that movie. Yeah.
• 30:55
  I guess, yeah, because they do watch the movie in this movie,
• 30:58
  which is another thing. And it's absurd because they go
• 31:01
  to see it when Ricky is like an adult.
• 31:04
  I've got the Ricky. Oh my God, Is that what he meant
• 31:07
  when the Doctor was like, how do you know all of this?
• 31:09
  And he's like, I was there. He meant that he was there in
• 31:12
  the movie theater. Yeah, he saw the movie.
• 31:15
  Yeah. What if this whole time he's
• 31:17
  just been lying to the dog? He's like telling him about this
• 31:20
  movie that he saw. Yeah, he's not actually Ricky.
• 31:24
  He is a Ricky. Not the same, Ricky.
• 31:27
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 31:28
  And then I've got the other things, some of them you've
• 31:30
  mentioned, like Ricky's age difference between 17 and 18.
• 31:34
  And also, I phrase it as Mother Superior getting the Loomis scar
• 31:38
  treatment, but worse. Yeah.
• 31:42
  And really, I think it was to disguise the fact that they
• 31:45
  recast Mother Superior. But you recast Ricky so many
• 31:49
  times in this one movie. Like, we're already adjusting to
• 31:52
  that. Actually.
• 31:54
  We're still kind of, like, focused on the idea that Ricky
• 31:57
  has been so many different people.
• 31:59
  We're not even concerned about Mother Superior.
• 32:02
  I don't even know what Mother Superior looks like.
• 32:04
  Yeah, I know exactly like I wouldn't be able to.
• 32:06
  And I'm just watching a movie that showed the original in it
• 32:10
  for 40 minutes. I yeah, I.
• 32:12
  And we get her. I didn't realize it was a
• 32:15
  different actress until you said so.
• 32:17
  And we get her like, for the end of the movie, just for a tiny
• 32:20
  little bit, like, you could have done it.
• 32:22
  It's so funny that they decided not to make her look normal.
• 32:26
  OK, so that's it. For all of the good, bad, ugly
• 32:28
  and absurd. What do you rate this?
• 32:31
  Man, this movie is absurd and objectively terrible and I adore
• 32:35
  it. I'm going to give it a 7.
• 32:37
  OK, Yeah, this is a fun movie. We watch it every year.
• 32:41
  So it's a classic with us. It's a it's a can't be classic.
• 32:45
  It's a cult classic. So if you're into those types of
• 32:47
  movies, this is going to be your thing.
• 32:49
  And I think I'm going to give it a 7 1/2. 7.25 starting average.
• 32:56
  All right. There we go.
• 32:58
  Ready to do this? We start off with some toe
• 33:02
  tapping, some really close eyeballs, indoor smoking because
• 33:05
  it's 1987. An orderly comes in and sets up
• 33:09
  a ginormous tape player because it's 1987.
• 33:12
  And then he is immediately dismissed by Doctor Bloom.
• 33:16
  And him and Ricky argue over the value of their time because the
• 33:21
  doctors, like, I charge several, many hundreds of dollars per
• 33:24
  hour. And Ricky's like, cool, I'm not
• 33:26
  here voluntarily, so you know, it's fine.
• 33:31
  Yeah, he tells him this is his last chance and we get a date on
• 33:35
  the screen. It's December 24th.
• 33:38
  So he's the doc finally asked the first question.
• 33:41
  He says sorry, who killed your parents?
• 33:44
  Santa. Santa Claus.
• 33:46
  So we get a flashback. Yep, they they're on the road,
• 33:50
  they're driving somewhere for Christmas.
• 33:51
  We don't know because we've not seen the first movie.
• 33:53
  Yes, and Billy or Ricky is just super casually in his mom's lap
• 34:00
  in the front seat. Yeah, safety, safety regulations
• 34:04
  and show like that way back in the 80s, you know, people didn't
• 34:07
  give a shit. 70s no, cuz this this would have been before the
• 34:10
  80s. I don't think that they're
• 34:12
  actually factoring in that end when they're making this movie.
• 34:14
  Well, I'm just I'm pointing out for our sake.
• 34:17
  We can't laugh at them for having dates wrong if we're
• 34:19
  gonna have dates wrong as. Well, yes, we absolutely can.
• 34:21
  No, yeah, I'm not. I'm not holding myself to the
• 34:24
  same standard I hold them to. They're on their way to their
• 34:28
  grandpa's house for Christmas Eve.
• 34:29
  I guess we do. Know where they're going then.
• 34:31
  Yeah, it Billy is 7 years old. So Ricky is that's their rough
• 34:38
  age difference is like six or seven years.
• 34:42
  Let's see where we at the car. They come across a car stopped
• 34:46
  in the middle of the road and it's Santa's car.
• 34:48
  He should be driving a sleigh. So first sign that that's not
• 34:52
  the real Santa Claus. But the parents are like, in
• 34:56
  their head. You can all see them.
• 34:57
  They're like, Oh my God, we're gonna help somebody in need.
• 34:59
  And we can also have this moment of like, Christmas magic for
• 35:03
  sons. Do you feel?
• 35:04
  Like that would like ruin it for them.
• 35:06
  Like damn, Santa's breaking down on the side of the road and he
• 35:08
  needs my mom and dad to help. Santa's not that cool after all.
• 35:12
  Oh, they would come up with some other type of bullshit.
• 35:15
  They already said that, like Santa.
• 35:16
  And like she called up Santa and let him know that they were
• 35:19
  gonna be at a different house. So like, kids are stupid.
• 35:22
  It's fine. They are.
• 35:25
  So Santa comes up and they're about to, you know, make a
• 35:29
  friendly remark. And then he just starts blasting
• 35:31
  he. Just takes out a fucking.
• 35:33
  Gun. They throw it in reverse and
• 35:35
  start driving off. Santa fires a few shots killing
• 35:38
  the dad. They end up getting wrecked in
• 35:40
  the ditch. He goes over.
• 35:43
  Billy has ran out of the. Hides behind a Bush.
• 35:46
  He gets out and runs away and Santa goes over there, throws
• 35:49
  the mom out, then starts to sexually assault her basically
• 35:53
  and he ends up just like slitting her throat and killing
• 35:58
  her. Meanwhile, Ricky's like crying
• 36:00
  in the car soon as that, yelling at Billy because he knows he's
• 36:03
  out there hiding somewhere. Dude that baby with that wreck
• 36:07
  that is still soft squishy stage of life that would have like
• 36:12
  Ricky would have had a lumpy head after that if he survived.
• 36:17
  After a wreck, yeah. It wasn't like a harsh wreck or
• 36:19
  anything like that. I think that they just got like
• 36:21
  watched over there. He's basically made of egg
• 36:24
  shells at this point. That's why.
• 36:25
  That's why his eyebrows look weird.
• 36:27
  Yeah, that's OK. So basically the sandwich just
• 36:30
  left them out there for dead. So they ended up being taken to
• 36:33
  an orphanage, Saint Mary's Orphanage.
• 36:35
  And who and when? And somebody also driving by
• 36:40
  being like, hey, I'm gonna help this family.
• 36:42
  My God. What would you do in that?
• 36:45
  Imagine cell phones aren't a thing.
• 36:48
  You know what I mean? Like you drive up and you see
• 36:50
  two orphaned children and a murder scene.
• 36:54
  So yeah, yeah, in that case right there, I guess you would
• 36:57
  just take the kids and go to the cops.
• 36:59
  Yeah, I guess I'm doing some vigilante kidnapping for the
• 37:03
  moment. I think that that's better than
• 37:07
  the alternate. Oh, hi, you guys, are you wow,
• 37:09
  this happened. You guys bye bye.
• 37:11
  And just drive off, like just leave them over there in the
• 37:14
  snow. Oh baby, bye bye.
• 37:17
  Exactly. I mean, would you rather them do
• 37:20
  that? Roll them down the hill?
• 37:23
  So they're at Saint Mary's Orphanage Now Billy has been in
• 37:26
  trouble because he has been drawing a killer Santa Claus
• 37:30
  during the art class. Mother Superiors is not very
• 37:33
  happy about that, so she sends them to his room.
• 37:36
  So he goes up to just kind of be in time.
• 37:39
  Now he's watching out the window, watching all the kids
• 37:41
  play. But Sister Margaret comes up,
• 37:43
  and she's like, hey, listen, Mother Superior just wants
• 37:46
  what's best for you. And I think what's best for you
• 37:48
  is to come build a snowman. So he starts to put on his coat
• 37:53
  and come downstairs, and he hears the sounds of future
• 37:57
  Catholic guilt, that is to say, sex and.
• 38:00
  People sex and yeah, and very loudly.
• 38:03
  He does some peeping Tom and he gets caught by Mother Superior
• 38:07
  and she maybe unlocks a kink for them.
• 38:11
  I don't know because she. She busts in there, Yeah, she
• 38:14
  gets out of her belt and they're like full on adults butt ass
• 38:18
  naked here. Yeah, like, maybe.
• 38:21
  Yeah, that doesn't really. It doesn't really seem like the
• 38:25
  best way to handle. Yeah.
• 38:28
  And then she comes and finds Billy downstairs and she's like,
• 38:31
  listen, they were naughty, they get punished.
• 38:34
  Punishment is good. Punishment is absolute.
• 38:37
  So this child is just emotionally destroyed.
• 38:42
  Fucking Billy, man. Yeah, so he's, we go back to him
• 38:45
  with the doc. He's continuing to give the doc
• 38:48
  a hard time. He tells him he's shrink #13.
• 38:51
  Yeah. Yeah, and he's like, all right,
• 38:53
  So what do you dream about then? Ricky, He's like, I don't sleep.
• 38:58
  But Billy, dude, he just starts telling him all about Billy's
• 39:01
  nightmares. Like Billy, we used to tell me
• 39:03
  about them all the time. Yeah, so Billy would have
• 39:05
  nightmares and he'd try and, like, run out of the house, so
• 39:08
  Mother Superior would just tie him to his bed.
• 39:11
  Yeah. Super play hide the hide the
• 39:13
  soul. Yeah.
• 39:14
  Basically, yeah, it's fucked up. And like all of the other nuns
• 39:19
  in there see that shit and they don't do anything.
• 39:22
  Nobody stands up to Mother Superior, do you?
• 39:24
  Do you not think Mother Superior would also tie them to their
• 39:27
  beds? They can.
• 39:29
  They can mutiny. I think that they could.
• 39:32
  I don't think that's. How they can overthrow Mother
• 39:34
  Superior? That's how it works with nuns.
• 39:35
  Should should there should be more mutinies?
• 39:39
  There should be more nun mutiny. There absolutely should.
• 39:42
  I'm pro non mutiny. Sisters are doing it for
• 39:48
  themselves. Sisters rise up.
• 39:50
  Yeah. OK, so yeah, he they have a
• 39:57
  whole thing where they're trying to force Billy to sit on Santa's
• 40:00
  lap also, and he freaks out and attacks Santa and knocks him
• 40:02
  over. Listen, I'm just going to go out
• 40:04
  and say this. If a child doesn't want to sit
• 40:06
  on Santa's lap, Catholic orphanage or not, you don't do
• 40:09
  that. Stop making your kids interact
• 40:13
  with other human beings in a way they're not comfortable with.
• 40:16
  Stop telling them that they have to hug a relative.
• 40:19
  Stop doing all of that. Let them set their own personal
• 40:22
  boundaries. Not everybody's cool with
• 40:24
  sitting on a stranger's lap. I also feel like they would know
• 40:28
  his history at this point too so.
• 40:29
  Oh, Mother's superior definitely knows.
• 40:32
  She's just a bitch it. Could be she's like, oh, it's
• 40:34
  exposure therapy. We just got to get him around
• 40:36
  Santa. She.
• 40:36
  Probably doesn't believe in therapy.
• 40:38
  Yeah, probably not. So he then asked the doctors,
• 40:42
  asked what happened to Billy after he left the orphanage.
• 40:45
  And wouldn't you know, Ricky has the answers because, you know,
• 40:49
  he definitely did not speak to Billy again.
• 40:51
  Yeah, because he he turned 18 and Sister Mary helped him get a
• 40:54
  job at a toy store as their Santa.
• 40:58
  What the fuck? They really are set.
• 41:02
  They're set against this kid, right?
• 41:05
  Here, hard U-turn whenever it's Ricky's time to leave and how
• 41:09
  they approach him leaving the work.
• 41:12
  Get him a yeah, a whole other family that will not have any.
• 41:15
  Yeah, we're gonna have him adopted by a Jewish couple.
• 41:20
  But Billy, no, you're gonna become Santa.
• 41:23
  I hope that's cool. That's crazy.
• 41:26
  Yeah, like he's old enough to be out on his own and he isn't.
• 41:30
  Yeah, he doesn't get any say. Yeah, and he is, like, quietly
• 41:33
  threatening all of the children and the adults are oblivious.
• 41:36
  They're like, oh look, he's so good with the kids.
• 41:39
  Yeah, I know. Yeah, he, he's like telling kids
• 41:41
  like that they're naughty and he's gonna punish them.
• 41:44
  So later that night, it's Christmas Eve, I believe.
• 41:47
  Yeah, just from the all the context squeezes I picked up
• 41:50
  from the scene. But they're having like a little
• 41:51
  party get together with the employees at the toy store.
• 41:54
  Yeah, staff party, getting drunk in your place of employment,
• 41:57
  that's fun. Yeah.
• 41:59
  When it's like, you know, appropriate.
• 42:01
  Yeah, yeah. After hours, yeah.
• 42:05
  Hours. Toys after that.
• 42:08
  So yeah, he's like dressed up in a Santa outfit and they're
• 42:13
  celebrating and then a couple goes into the backroom there.
• 42:18
  And then the catalyst for this I picked up is the owner of the
• 42:23
  store is like, oh, Santa, I guess.
• 42:26
  I guess you got to get going. And you know what Santa does on
• 42:29
  Christmas Eve, don't you? And then kill those people.
• 42:31
  Yeah. He's like I do.
• 42:33
  So he takes it upon himself to go kill the people that are
• 42:37
  naughty. Yeah, he gets back there and the
• 42:39
  man is like trying to force the woman to do so she's not
• 42:42
  comfortable with, so he kills him and then she is afraid of
• 42:47
  Billy because you know, of the murder, so he kills her as well.
• 42:53
  That's naughty. You can't be.
• 42:54
  Yeah, and. Then put.
• 42:56
  You on the naughty list immediately.
• 42:57
  That's number one. The manager is very drunk and he
• 43:00
  comes back to see what all the fuss is, and then he gets
• 43:03
  murdered. And then there's one woman
• 43:05
  who's, just like a shivering little leaf, wanders back as
• 43:09
  well. Yeah, she puts up the best
• 43:11
  fight. Yeah, she.
• 43:12
  Like hides, she throws it. To the front door and she does
• 43:15
  manage to call the cops before she is also killed so.
• 43:20
  What do these people do? Like what makes them naughty?
• 43:22
  I guess we'll have to watch the first one to know.
• 43:25
  I mean, they were clearly being naughty.
• 43:27
  Naughty drunk, I guess. I don't know, yeah.
• 43:30
  Drunk sex, afraid of Santa, you know all the those are three of
• 43:34
  the seven deadly sins, I think. Yeah, yeah.
• 43:38
  So yeah, Ricky now is like he's decided to go over to Lynnea
• 43:42
  Quigley's house because Lynnea Quigley, as we all know.
• 43:46
  Yeah, well Ricky says that none of this is Billy's fault.
• 43:49
  This is all Mother Superiors fault for instilling the sense
• 43:52
  of it from him. And so Billy has the sense of
• 43:57
  naughty and nice, and he sees Lynnea Quigley doing what Lynnea
• 44:00
  Quigley does. Also, I'm not this.
• 44:04
  This could act as an absurd because her and her boyfriend
• 44:07
  are making out on a pool table. Not good for the felt.
• 44:10
  And then she hears her cat's collar jangling outside and she
• 44:13
  gets dressed so she can let the cat in.
• 44:16
  But what that involves is just putting on a pair of the tiniest
• 44:20
  strange shorts in existence. Boob Lidge still full out.
• 44:24
  Yeah, boobs still out and still getting enough of the booty with
• 44:29
  those shorts for sure. Yeah, that wedgie hurt me to see
• 44:34
  it. It wasn't comfortable.
• 44:36
  So she gets impaled on a stuffed deer head.
• 44:40
  Yeah. She lets the cat in and Ricky
• 44:42
  busts in. It's a pretty solid kill.
• 44:44
  Yeah, it's a, it's a iconic one, yeah.
• 44:46
  And. Kudos to whoever mounted that
• 44:48
  deer head as well. They definitely.
• 44:50
  Saw in their towel. Yeah, yeah, they, they either
• 44:52
  found the studs or they they did an excellent job anchoring it to
• 44:56
  the wall. I wish we had a scene like
• 44:58
  Thanksgiving in this right here where he, like, goes over to the
• 45:00
  cat because the cat, yeah, I just came into.
• 45:02
  He's like, all right, you're not naughty, You're nice.
• 45:04
  I wish that the drywall had just like ripped.
• 45:09
  I got out into it. Oh my God, that would be
• 45:11
  hilarious. Yeah, the boyfriend comes up,
• 45:13
  sees the body, gets into a fight with Ricky, and he also ends up
• 45:16
  getting Axe. Yeah, you mean that in the
• 45:19
  figurative sense? Cuz he's killed by being thrown
• 45:21
  out the window. Yeah, yeah.
• 45:24
  In a movie that does involve axes, we mean to specify.
• 45:28
  That's fair. The.
• 45:28
  Cops are after Santa on Christmas Eve.
• 45:31
  Ha ha ha ha. They're acting like this is a
• 45:34
  brand new thing, that as though nobody in a Santa suit has ever
• 45:39
  gone a little wild. It does look a little
• 45:43
  suspicious. To see a man crawling through a
• 45:46
  second story window on the ladder, why is he doing that to
• 45:49
  his daughter? I'm just like walking through
• 45:51
  like the the fucking door. Like Santa knows how to get into
• 45:54
  the house through magic waves like chimneys and like cracks.
• 45:58
  The levels that this. Man is going to to deceive his
• 46:02
  child. Yeah, violate.
• 46:05
  Her space. Make her feel like she doesn't
• 46:07
  deserve to have a locked window in her bedroom.
• 46:10
  This is like a thing of the time.
• 46:12
  This is. Like the scream thing where
• 46:13
  Billy just comes in through the window, you know what I mean?
• 46:15
  It's just like, this is how people used to go say hey,
• 46:19
  including Santa Claus. Yeah.
• 46:21
  So yeah, the cops. Ruin a perfectly.
• 46:23
  Good. Surprise.
• 46:24
  The dad's like, oh, I'm the dad and the kid, the kids like,
• 46:29
  Daddy, you're not Santa. Yeah, just ruins.
• 46:32
  Like, way to go, cops. Meanwhile, Sister Margaret.
• 46:35
  Has figured out that something bad is happening and as a Santa
• 46:39
  approaches Saint Mary's, he is shot right in front of Ricky.
• 46:43
  And we learned that it actually it wasn't Billy in that Santa
• 46:47
  suit, it was the janitor old man Kelsey, who was just trying to
• 46:50
  do something nice for the for the orphans he works with.
• 46:54
  Yeah, just. But one of the cops comes in
• 46:58
  and. He's like, all right, you all
• 46:59
  are going to stay locked right in here.
• 47:02
  I'm a cop, so nothing bad will ever happen.
• 47:06
  And he goes outside and something bad happens.
• 47:08
  He is killed. And then Billy Bussen and he is
• 47:14
  shot. Yeah.
• 47:15
  They just like a little kid. Let's.
• 47:17
  In and they're like don't do it like they just killed us and do
• 47:19
  you want this guy in here and the kid doesn't fucking care.
• 47:22
  He just goes everything let's in because this is Santa Claus.
• 47:24
  Yeah, he probably didn't want to see another.
• 47:26
  You're Santa die on Christmas Eve.
• 47:28
  I can't. I can't fault the kid.
• 47:30
  Too bad, because he sees one. Murdered right in front of him
• 47:33
  again. Yeah, this one.
• 47:35
  Was about to kill Mother Superior too, so the orphanage
• 47:39
  closed. At this point we are 39 minutes
• 47:41
  into the movie and now we're starting a new story.
• 47:43
  Yeah, finally we've got. Part 1 out of the way now he's
• 47:47
  been adopted by the Rosenbergs, which.
• 47:51
  Travis did not put this together that they're a Jewish family
• 47:56
  because he was like, they definitely did not celebrate
• 47:58
  Christmas. So that was, you know, probably,
• 48:02
  probably the kind of innovative thinking they should have taken
• 48:05
  with the Lee at some point in his.
• 48:07
  Nobody adopted them. So they.
• 48:08
  Yeah, yeah. But also to.
• 48:10
  Get him a job as a toy store. Santa was probably.
• 48:13
  That was bad. Yeah, yeah, that was.
• 48:15
  Was there no McDonald's nearby? Like, yeah, they're, they're
• 48:19
  surely. Good.
• 48:19
  I mean, like, we see him later. He's like that dishwasher or
• 48:21
  something. Yeah.
• 48:22
  You know, he's taking out the trash.
• 48:23
  Yeah. Yeah, Well, he's so he's got
• 48:25
  trauma. Life was good, but he's walking
• 48:28
  down the sidewalk with his mom and he sees some nuns walking by
• 48:31
  and this freaks him the fuck out.
• 48:32
  Then he also sees red fabric, and that just puts him over the
• 48:35
  edge. Can you imagine having a kid
• 48:37
  just being afraid of the color red it would feel like having.
• 48:41
  That tiny little bowl. Yeah, except he's not like.
• 48:44
  Steamrolling everything around. He's just over there like shit.
• 48:47
  He kind of, yeah, he kind of goes.
• 48:49
  Into like an absent seizure state and she's freaking out.
• 48:53
  So her and Morty go and talk to Sister Mary and she's like,
• 48:57
  listen, as long as you guys love the trauma out of him, he'll be
• 49:02
  fine. And Ward, he's like, that's my
• 49:04
  son, damn it. And Martha's like, that is our
• 49:06
  student. They take a huge turn.
• 49:08
  They're like fuck. This kid, this kid can't take
• 49:10
  him anywhere. Nuns oozes and shit, shits his
• 49:12
  pants. He's red, Forget about it.
• 49:15
  And then like, just love him. Like, that's my fucking son,
• 49:17
  boy. Yeah.
• 49:20
  How dare you say that? It's so funny.
• 49:24
  They just, like, completely turn.
• 49:25
  Yeah. So five years later, the dad had
• 49:27
  died. Yeah.
• 49:28
  He is now 1517. Whatever age you want to
• 49:31
  believe, 15 going on 17 and. Then he's like, all right, doc,
• 49:36
  I'm going. To tell you something I've never
• 49:37
  told anybody before, so and the doctor says.
• 49:41
  Let it out. I love this quote.
• 49:43
  From him because like this is another example of bad writing,
• 49:47
  but it's so good. He's like, you tend to get
• 49:49
  paranoid when everyone around you gets dead.
• 49:52
  That's why. Here's the thing.
• 49:54
  He's definitely. Said that out loud to a
• 49:56
  different there one of the other 12 therapists he's spoken to,
• 50:00
  he's definitely said that out loud.
• 50:01
  He's workshopped yeah with the. Other 12, yeah, only perfected
• 50:04
  it with 13 I think. Yeah, so he was.
• 50:07
  That's great because he's paranoid of everybody.
• 50:09
  Around him dying, he likes to go for walks alone and spy on
• 50:13
  lovers having sex that will surely involve ants biting them
• 50:17
  on delicate parts of their body. Yeah, they're having a little
• 50:20
  picnic. And the guy gets a little bit
• 50:23
  too forceful with his advances. Buck, Eddie.
• 50:27
  She and she ends up kicking him in the balls.
• 50:30
  Which she's like, fuck this, I'm out of here.
• 50:32
  So he starts to head back to the Jeep.
• 50:34
  Actually, what he says is. I'm trying to go get a beer and
• 50:37
  then we're gonna continue this conversation.
• 50:41
  Scary. Not verbatim, but yeah.
• 50:44
  Yeah, that is worse basically. Yeah, I'm gonna go get.
• 50:46
  Drunk and angrier and you better figure out what's best for you,
• 50:49
  lady. And Ricky is like no naughty
• 50:54
  punish punish and he runs Eddie over with his own Jeep and the
• 50:59
  girlfriend sees and she goes like nice little nod dude.
• 51:03
  She watches him. He.
• 51:04
  Doesn't just like run him over, he like goes back and forth,
• 51:07
  back and forth, over and over again with it.
• 51:09
  And then as he's walking out of the Jeep, he is me trying to.
• 51:13
  Parallel park, Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
• 51:16
  But like, she walks over to the Jeep and he gets out and Ricky
• 51:19
  just stares at her and she's like, thank you.
• 51:22
  Like he's just fucking murdered a guy right in front of you and
• 51:26
  that's all you have to say is thank you.
• 51:28
  And then they just stare at each other silently for like a
• 51:30
  minute. To be fair, the way that.
• 51:32
  Relationship was going. There was not zero chance that
• 51:36
  he was gonna attempt to murder her.
• 51:38
  Probably so, yeah. But we'll never know.
• 51:42
  Yeah, because he he did the murder first and then what the.
• 51:47
  Doctor took from this is red car and I think this is what he
• 51:51
  means when he says he's never told another doctor this because
• 51:54
  this and the next murder aren't in any of the previous notes.
• 51:58
  Yeah exactly. So the fact that the doctor gets
• 52:00
  all the all the hot teeth from Ricky in this moment and all he
• 52:05
  wrote down was a red car. So my favorite thing about it is
• 52:08
  he's got. Everything on his paper normal
• 52:10
  like riding text size, but red car in the center in gigantic
• 52:14
  font notes look like a word cloud.
• 52:16
  Yeah, it's kind of like the word cloud.
• 52:17
  It's like red. Car and then like he like cuts
• 52:20
  to it and he like got so engrossed with the making of the
• 52:24
  giant red car that Ricky is over there in his ear.
• 52:26
  He's like red car. Good point.
• 52:29
  And she's so fucking funny. He turns around on the.
• 52:31
  Doctor starts. Asking him about his family, if
• 52:34
  he had kids, college, whatnot. And Ricky goes mildly.
• 52:39
  He couldn't afford college so I had to work.
• 52:42
  Yep. So now he.
• 52:44
  Is at a job at some place a kitchen I assume because he's
• 52:47
  wearing like an yeah he definitely he says that he.
• 52:49
  Like does dishes and takes out the trash.
• 52:51
  So he's probably a dishwasher at like a restaurant of some sort.
• 52:54
  There's like this bookie dude out in the.
• 52:56
  Back that's hassling a dude for money and and it's like and it's
• 53:00
  a very comical. He's so cartoony.
• 53:04
  I really I hope you don't. Pay because.
• 53:06
  I am having so much fun beating you up.
• 53:09
  It's not. I didn't write down the, it's
• 53:10
  basically it. It's so over the.
• 53:12
  Top though, it's so funny and then Ricky just like comes over
• 53:16
  behind him cuz like the guy has like pushed the other dude down
• 53:18
  on the ground. He's about to walk off.
• 53:20
  Ricky busts into him and then he just takes him, grabs and grabs
• 53:24
  an umbrella that's just happens to be there.
• 53:26
  Myers holds him up against the. Wall also and this lighting with
• 53:32
  his white shirt and his slick back hair he looks like skeetal
• 53:35
  rich a much bigger. Skeet.
• 53:38
  But yeah, I can definitely see the resemblance.
• 53:40
  He looks like Billy Loomis. So yeah, he stabs him all the
• 53:48
  way through with the umbrella and then just opens up.
• 53:51
  Oh my. God, I love it so much.
• 53:53
  I I want to see the uncut footage from that kill.
• 53:56
  Yeah, I I want to know. How much worse it was, honestly.
• 54:00
  So yeah. And this is where the dog.
• 54:03
  Is like Oh my God I have no mention of these in any of my
• 54:06
  past so it's what the fuck is happening.
• 54:08
  He's so sweaty. He is Jordan Peele in.
• 54:11
  That skate where the porn was found on the top, It's so funny
• 54:15
  too because like, you can tell. It's not going anywhere.
• 54:17
  Somebody would literally just walked up to him with a what?
• 54:20
  Like a yeah, we have some blistering for.
• 54:23
  You. But don't worry, it's so funny.
• 54:27
  Let's see? He asked.
• 54:28
  About Jennifer, Yeah, he asked about Jennifer and.
• 54:31
  Ricky says eat shit. And then he pulls out a picture
• 54:34
  of Jennifer, which is clearly the actress's head shot.
• 54:37
  Yeah, yeah. It's so funny.
• 54:39
  And. Then he finds a better way to
• 54:41
  phrase the question. He's like, all right, so why are
• 54:43
  you here, Ricky? And then he's like, oh, let me
• 54:45
  tell you all about Jennifer. Yeah, so they met by a little
• 54:51
  Fender Bender. He was backing out his
• 54:52
  motorcycle. She was driving reckless casual
• 54:55
  vehicular. Homicide.
• 54:56
  Yeah, he was going to get pissed.
• 54:58
  But then he looks up and he sees her, and he's like, wow, yeah,
• 55:01
  he's stunned. He had her.
• 55:04
  His first time with her and thought that it was her first
• 55:07
  time too. So he's going to be like.
• 55:12
  That then they go to a movie theater and there is an
• 55:15
  obnoxious guy in the back row who is heckling through the
• 55:19
  trailers and you just know it's not going to get any better.
• 55:21
  Oh my God, his friend that's sitting.
• 55:23
  Next to him looks like he hates him.
• 55:25
  He's so embarrassed to be next to this guy.
• 55:28
  It's kind of funny though. Hold your friend accountable
• 55:31
  then, man. Like you have the power, he's
• 55:33
  just like mimicking the. Sound from the trailers in the
• 55:37
  movies and stuff, yeah. It's it's kind of funny.
• 55:41
  Yeah. So.
• 55:43
  He decides that he's going to go deal with that, and while he's
• 55:48
  doing that, oh wait, no, the thing that triggers them, they
• 55:50
  start. Watching Silent Night, Deadly
• 55:52
  Night One, Yeah. And then as soon as he says,
• 55:54
  what is this movie about anyway? And she goes, Oh my God, it's
• 55:57
  great. It's a movie about a killer
• 56:00
  scene. Yeah.
• 56:00
  And then like, she's like. What?
• 56:03
  Yeah, I guess my. Voice was like so.
• 56:05
  High pitched like that, it's like the actor didn't.
• 56:08
  Know that that was the next line and he was like wait, what?
• 56:12
  Yeah, but like, like the thing that.
• 56:13
  Triggers him is he sees the killer Santa in that movie so as
• 56:17
  soon as he sees that kill and he's like hold on, I gotta go
• 56:19
  take care of something yeah so. While he's gone, which we'll get
• 56:24
  to that in a second, what he's doing, this guy pops up and
• 56:28
  starts hassling Jennifer. This is Chip, her ex.
• 56:31
  Yeah, his date is just like watching all of this go down,
• 56:35
  and she's pretty annoyed, too. And then Ricky is in the back
• 56:39
  row with the hecklers and he goes, no, I really like.
• 56:42
  This shot because, like, it's the guy watching a movie, he
• 56:45
  just keeps leaning over and the camera like follows him as he
• 56:47
  like when like weans over to like talk to his friend.
• 56:50
  Yeah. And he's right there.
• 56:51
  See, that's the good camera work, right?
• 56:52
  Yeah, that, that's a fun shot. I will give credit to that.
• 56:56
  And he comes back and sits down next to Jennifer and she's like,
• 56:59
  let's leave this movie stem. He goes, you know what?
• 57:02
  I'm enjoying it. I I love the way it's like.
• 57:05
  Actually, I'm beginning to like this picture.
• 57:09
  That's so fucking stupid. So later, they're walking.
• 57:12
  This is the one time in this movie that Eric Freeman delivers
• 57:16
  his lines like a normal fucking person.
• 57:18
  Yeah. So hey, So like, I figured like,
• 57:20
  you know, we can maybe go see a movie or something after this
• 57:23
  and then like, Eric Freeman gets to be the actor.
• 57:25
  He trained to be, Yeah. He's like a normal, like he's
• 57:28
  not. Given this like super deep
• 57:30
  performance with his voice or anything like that.
• 57:32
  Yeah. But they stumble across Chip,
• 57:34
  who's working on his car, and Chip starts to bring up the past
• 57:38
  with Jennifer again. And then he mentioned something
• 57:41
  about. How they had had sex and that
• 57:44
  sends Ricky over the edge and he takes the jumper cables that he
• 57:48
  has. Was the black grounded to
• 57:50
  anything? Didn't see it doesn't matter
• 57:52
  because enough of a connection happens.
• 57:56
  That chip is fully fried. Yep, electrocuted, Fried.
• 58:00
  Potato chip, we're talking. Shopping mall.
• 58:02
  We're talking child's play 1 lightning bolts.
• 58:06
  We were talking the. Illustrative cover for National
• 58:10
  Lampoon's Christmas Vacation. These are the type of lighting
• 58:13
  effects. That we're getting in this
• 58:15
  motion picture, people, it's fantastic.
• 58:18
  Jennifer loses her shit because he killed him right in front of
• 58:22
  her, whereas I put it simply in. My notes Jennifer dumped me.
• 58:27
  Oh yeah, Yeah, she kind of. Dumps me and she's like naughty
• 58:30
  punish. Yeah, so he he kills her too.
• 58:33
  Yeah, and then a cop. A cop.
• 58:35
  Is just like, hold on, freeze Mr. He's already like on the
• 58:38
  job. She's like, I didn't like that
• 58:40
  job chip guy, but. That Jennifer lady didn't
• 58:42
  deserve that. And Ricky comes over and manages
• 58:46
  to twist the gun to face the cop, shoots him, takes his gun
• 58:48
  and then he goes on a spree around the neighborhood.
• 58:51
  This is one of the best like. You've probably seen this from
• 58:55
  the meme itself. I just fucking love how he just
• 58:57
  takes the gun and he just gives the stupid ha ha ha ha laugh the
• 59:01
  entire time just going around shooting everybody.
• 59:04
  He's he's except. For the little kid on the
• 59:05
  tricycle, but he sees like one guy taking out his garbage and
• 59:09
  this is such an infamous line, but he goes garbage day and
• 59:13
  then. He shoots at the man the.
• 59:14
  Man, full panics and I love this move because it's so real.
• 59:18
  Holds the trash can up as like armor and goes no, no, yeah.
• 59:23
  And then he like flies. Back in school motion.
• 59:24
  That's an action movie shot right there.
• 59:26
  It's amazing, yeah. So he continues his.
• 59:29
  Rampage. And then he finally comes across
• 59:32
  a roadblock of two cops that are holding him at gunpoint.
• 59:34
  And then he takes the gun points a he's like, they're all
• 59:38
  pleading for him not to do it. He pulls the trigger, but he's
• 59:41
  out. No bullets.
• 59:42
  Oh yeah, no. Bullets.
• 59:43
  That's. Exactly what I said so.
• 59:49
  You know, that's that's the story of that.
• 59:51
  And the tape is now empty. And that's because the doctor
• 59:55
  has been killed and can replace the tape in the tape recorder
• 59:58
  just cuts and yeah, the doctor. He's dead.
• 1:00:00
  He walks out and then you hear just everybody dying in the
• 1:00:03
  hallway. As he's on his way out of the
• 1:00:05
  hospital, we see one of the. Sisters telling the cop that
• 1:00:10
  Mother Superior retired and lives alone ever since her
• 1:00:14
  stroke. And we see them think that,
• 1:00:19
  well, surely Ricky won't figure out where she lives.
• 1:00:22
  But joke's on them 'cause Ricky has already killed a Salvation
• 1:00:26
  Army Santa, stolen the suit and some of the change from the
• 1:00:29
  bucket, presumably so he can make this call on the on the pay
• 1:00:32
  phone to let Mother Superior know that he's coming.
• 1:00:35
  How does he know? How did he know we're together?
• 1:00:37
  You've been keeping tabs. He's like.
• 1:00:38
  She's the devil. She.
• 1:00:39
  Probably lives at 666. Yeah, probably.
• 1:00:42
  She is the. House number.
• 1:00:44
  Where she actually lives, the way she would have agreed to
• 1:00:46
  live there. Like I have to assume this is a
• 1:00:49
  situation where like because she worked for the church and like
• 1:00:53
  she probably wasn't making huge money, right?
• 1:00:55
  Like so I feel like this was housing that she was given after
• 1:00:59
  she retired. It's a two-story house with like
• 1:01:01
  the. Accessibility for a wheelchair.
• 1:01:04
  Yeah, yeah, but I can't imagine her willingly live.
• 1:01:08
  In a 666, No, no, I I think it's.
• 1:01:13
  Funny though for the movie, Yeah.
• 1:01:14
  Also, this is like probably the best delivery for a Merry
• 1:01:18
  Christmas I've ever heard in a movie.
• 1:01:19
  When he calls her, it's like Merry Christmas like that.
• 1:01:23
  I fucking say that every single year like that.
• 1:01:25
  He says it multiple times a year.
• 1:01:26
  He. Said it about 10 times already
• 1:01:29
  this week, so it's fantastic. It's it's.
• 1:01:31
  Like seared in my brain this moment right here.
• 1:01:34
  All right, so I like this little thing of like, there is a little
• 1:01:42
  toy Santa that's walking on the sidewalk that is creeping out
• 1:01:45
  the kids outside Mother Superior's house.
• 1:01:48
  And the kids freak out and run away, but it's really Ricky
• 1:01:51
  that's walking down the sidewalk crushing the toy that freaked
• 1:01:54
  them out inside. Mother.
• 1:01:57
  Superior is getting very angry at parades.
• 1:02:00
  Yeah, she's just complaining. Yeah, she, I think she said it.
• 1:02:04
  Was all like sacrilegious or whatever, but yeah, she's, she's
• 1:02:08
  really annoyed about it. And then Ricky appears and they
• 1:02:11
  have a chase scene through this house.
• 1:02:14
  But at one point she's like, just taunts him.
• 1:02:17
  And she was like, you're naughty.
• 1:02:19
  You're just a naughty boy and you need to be punished.
• 1:02:22
  And what does Ricky say to that? Naughty this, naughty this.
• 1:02:27
  Yeah. Oh my God.
• 1:02:29
  Then he axes her and we don't see the cops arrive.
• 1:02:33
  They bust in through the door. They think that maybe they got
• 1:02:35
  her, and they see her at the table.
• 1:02:37
  Yeah, just sitting. Also perfect.
• 1:02:39
  And we're like, what happened? With Ricky, did the power of
• 1:02:42
  Christ compel him? Seems plausible.
• 1:02:45
  No, actually, her head, her Kappa has in fact been dictated.
• 1:02:51
  So that's a bummer. And then Ricky tries to pop out
• 1:02:54
  to take care of the rest of these fools in this house, and
• 1:02:57
  they shoot him and he flies through the window and he's dead
• 1:03:00
  in the snow. Or is he?
• 1:03:01
  Because. They hear the sister mother's
• 1:03:05
  superior, or no, not mother's superior.
• 1:03:07
  They hear, like, one of the sisters scream, and then it cuts
• 1:03:10
  back to Billy. Not really Ricky.
• 1:03:12
  And his eyes open. Yeah.
• 1:03:13
  And he smiles at the camera. And, you know, he's still alive,
• 1:03:18
  Ish. In fact, I believe he's played
• 1:03:20
  by another Ricky in the next movie, Bill Mosley.
• 1:03:24
  Ricky is who he is with his brain out on display.
• 1:03:29
  It's so fucking weird. This.
• 1:03:30
  This series goes so many weird places.
• 1:03:32
  Yeah, but that's that's the movie.
• 1:03:35
  That's how it ends. I think I'm gonna keep it at A7.
• 1:03:38
  I think maybe having the unrated version perhaps would help.
• 1:03:43
  That'd be cool. I'd be down with that.
• 1:03:45
  I'm gonna keep mine at 7 1/2. I just love this movie.
• 1:03:49
  Like, it's just entertaining. It's fun.
• 1:03:51
  It's got the camp to it. That makes it endearing.
• 1:03:55
  Talia. She was, she was sleepy while we
• 1:03:58
  were watching this, but like she was fighting the sleep, like she
• 1:04:01
  kept getting up, moving around, trying to keep herself awake.
• 1:04:04
  She wanted to watch this. This is also a Christmas
• 1:04:06
  tradition for her because no dogs were harmed.
• 1:04:09
  I think she's actually going to give this an 8.
• 1:04:11
  If it were the original script, she would.
• 1:04:12
  Have hated this but but because the directors.
• 1:04:15
  Knew. The writers knew.
• 1:04:16
  Yeah. They're like, that's too far,
• 1:04:18
  yeah. She wants to reward them for.
• 1:04:19
  Following their correct instincts on that, Zoe's
• 1:04:24
  Ultimate Warrior. She's got a lot to pick from
• 1:04:27
  here. Mm hmm.
• 1:04:32
  Do we think it's the cat? That Linnea Quickly's house.
• 1:04:39
  It cats usually get it with her, Yeah, like she respects it
• 1:04:43
  especially. When they survive the movie,
• 1:04:44
  like she's like, yeah, that's that's me.
• 1:04:46
  It's survived that sees herself in that.
• 1:04:48
  Yeah, I also got to hang. Out with Lania.
• 1:04:50
  Quigley Yeah, So LQ's cat. OK, cool LQ.
• 1:04:54
  Cat LQ. I wrote LQ's.
• 1:04:56
  LQ's cat. Right dream.
• 1:05:00
  Sequel Who'd you relate to? Who did I?
• 1:05:02
  Relate to Oh boy. I think I relate to the man
• 1:05:13
  taking out his garbage and trying to use it as a shield.
• 1:05:16
  OK, Because that was, that's a good move.
• 1:05:19
  That's like an instinctive move that I just, I felt in my bones,
• 1:05:23
  you know? OK, I.
• 1:05:25
  Relate to Ricky in the theater having to deal with the fucking
• 1:05:29
  hackers? Cuz I've been I've had to do
• 1:05:30
  that multiple times this year. It's not been a problem for many
• 1:05:34
  years. I've hardly had to do it.
• 1:05:36
  I do think you somewhat take. This burden on yourself, well,
• 1:05:41
  it's. Not like anybody's asking me to.
• 1:05:43
  I'm telling myself, you got to do it Exactly.
• 1:05:45
  Somebody's got to do it. Somebody's got to tell the
• 1:05:47
  people shut up. So that's what, you know, I've
• 1:05:50
  done a couple times this year. And you told me next time I do
• 1:05:53
  it, I need to go over to the person, get in the chair next to
• 1:05:55
  them and go. Yeah.
• 1:05:58
  I do think you need to, if they have a friend, be really fun
• 1:06:00
  next to them. Cool, if they have a friend next
• 1:06:03
  to them, I might even just like, hey, it swap seats with me real
• 1:06:06
  quick. It's terrible.
• 1:06:07
  Yeah, trust me. If you've seen Selena Deadelina
• 1:06:09
  too, you'll you'll this, this will have a great, Yeah.
• 1:06:12
  I like that. Meantime, like the person.
• 1:06:14
  That you're trying to show she's just like talking over both of
• 1:06:17
  you, yeah. OK, OK, now dream sequel.
• 1:06:25
  I wanna see Ricky is caught like he's who did, who did.
• 1:06:32
  Ricky traumatize this time, he's got to pass the trauma down to
• 1:06:36
  somebody else. OK, OK.
• 1:06:38
  I'm gonna say that he traumatized the little kid on
• 1:06:42
  the tricycle during the neighborhood shooting sequence.
• 1:06:46
  Yeah, for. Sure.
• 1:06:48
  And that kid, like, we just see a sequence.
• 1:06:50
  Of that kid growing up and it goes from tricycle to
• 1:06:53
  motorcycle. He's he hates red cars so.
• 1:06:57
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good point.
• 1:07:00
  The the driver. In the red car.
• 1:07:02
  Was his dad? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:06
  OK, yeah. So, yeah, he traumatized that
• 1:07:08
  kid. Then it comes around Christmas
• 1:07:12
  time again. Yeah, this time more Christmas
• 1:07:15
  for sure. OK.
• 1:07:18
  I think that works. That works for me.
• 1:07:19
  Yeah. You just take it from there.
• 1:07:20
  I like that. OK.
• 1:07:21
  I like. That all right.
• 1:07:25
  I guess we are now at Sagwon. Oh boy.
• 1:07:32
  Better hope Santa doesn't leave. Some punishment in your
• 1:07:36
  stalking? That's not bad.
• 1:07:42
  Naughty and nice is the same as alive or dead.
• 1:07:54
  I'm gonna be really honest, I said.
• 1:07:55
  Naughty and nice and I did not know what the end of that was
• 1:07:58
  gonna be. I've been workshopping naughty
• 1:07:59
  and nice. In my head too.
• 1:08:01
  And then I heard that I'm like, oh fucking fantastic.
• 1:08:06
  Garbage day for your. Garbage morals.
• 1:08:13
  Is your car red? Naughty this, nice this.
• 1:08:19
  Naughty this nice. Naughty this, naughty this this.
• 1:08:22
  Nice. What?
• 1:08:25
  Are you saying? Well, at the end he's like,
• 1:08:28
  naughty. This I got that.
• 1:08:31
  What are? What are all of the extra words
• 1:08:33
  I got? Naughty this, nice this.
• 1:08:36
  This nice. It just kind of got me trapped
• 1:08:40
  right there for a second. Nice that naughty this.
• 1:08:43
  Nice that naughty this. Nice stand a naughty that.
• 1:08:52
  That's a. That's a tagline.
• 1:08:53
  What nice Santa hat naughty. What is
• 1:09:13
  happening? Red car.
• 1:09:17
  Good movie. Naughty or nice?
• 1:09:22
  You get the same movie twice. I also wanna do like a.
• 1:09:28
  Cheesy 90s comedy tagline. Like one brother was naughty,
• 1:09:33
  one brother was nice, but they'll both end up on Santa's
• 1:09:37
  bad list this year. Oh man.
• 1:09:44
  That's not bad. I mean, it's yeah, they're
• 1:09:49
  they're these are all kind of terrible, but I think it kind of
• 1:09:52
  works 1. Man's garbage day.
• 1:09:58
  Is another man's treasure. That's good, alright.
• 1:10:02
  One man's garbage day is another man's.
• 1:10:04
  Treasure, please let me know when you're.
• 1:10:07
  Editing this and you come across your entire word salad.
• 1:10:11
  Oh yeah, I'll let you listen to that.
• 1:10:13
  Again, OK. It.
• 1:10:16
  Yeah. It went to a dark place there
• 1:10:19
  for a second. Yeah.
• 1:10:21
  Yeah. OK, cool.
• 1:10:22
  Well, then I guess that means that we can move on over to
• 1:10:25
  reviews. Thank God.
• 1:10:26
  Yeah. So.
• 1:10:28
  I actually went and got us a critic review this time.
• 1:10:31
  Oh boy, you mean the critics? Weren't favorable of this.
• 1:10:34
  Maybe some were, surprisingly. Actually, but we have they're
• 1:10:39
  mostly recent, so it's post meme.
• 1:10:42
  Yeah, for some reason I couldn't really find any old ones, but
• 1:10:46
  this is somebody from 2012. Tim Brayton of Antagony and
• 1:10:51
  Ecstasy reviewed this. He gave it a one out of 10.
• 1:10:56
  So this is a just a decent little chunk of the review here.
• 1:10:59
  OK, here's an axe. Crazy psychopath.
• 1:11:02
  Here are disjointed, arbitrary scenes of him killing people.
• 1:11:05
  VN. I'm really truly not
• 1:11:07
  exaggerating. There are of course other
• 1:11:09
  reasons to watch The Thing than joy at the sight of human death.
• 1:11:13
  In fact, given how coy the non budget production is obliged to
• 1:11:16
  be about gore makeup, that's one of the last reasons a horror fan
• 1:11:20
  would want to bother with it. Not least of which it's is It's
• 1:11:23
  a Legend as a bad movie. This is the film in which Eric
• 1:11:26
  Freeman, who telegraphs I'm Crazy Now by lowering his voice
• 1:11:29
  to a gravelly bellow that would make Christian Bell's Batman
• 1:11:33
  blush, gleefully shoots a man taking out the trash while
• 1:11:37
  shouting Garbage Day and thereby creating an Internet meme.
• 1:11:41
  Camp is, in fact, the only way that any viewer I expect could
• 1:11:45
  drag even the tiniest shred of pleasure out of a movie that
• 1:11:48
  offers nothing else. But it does offer all sorts of
• 1:11:51
  ridiculous opportunities to mock it.
• 1:11:54
  Friedmans awesomely terrible performance is 1.
• 1:11:56
  The ungainly, dumbfounding use of stock footage is obviously
• 1:11:59
  another. The transparently bad filmmaking
• 1:12:02
  is 1/3. And yeah, I never found it so
• 1:12:05
  bad. It's good in the least,
• 1:12:06
  partially because I feel sorry for the crew more than
• 1:12:09
  contemptuous of them. A fella needs to eat, and this
• 1:12:13
  was an impossible project. And the lingering memory of
• 1:12:17
  Silent Night, Deadly Night came sort of close at times.
• 1:12:19
  To be an actual decent slasher movie made it hard to stomach
• 1:12:24
  such a vile, useless sequel. And that's honestly just about
• 1:12:27
  all she wrote. It's hard to be prepared for how
• 1:12:29
  much of A nothing this movie is, devoid of any reason, no matter
• 1:12:32
  how tacky, to appreciate it sincerely.
• 1:12:35
  And the work of appreciating it ironically seems to be too much
• 1:12:38
  effort for a movie of such monstrous vacuity.
• 1:12:43
  I don't know if I said that right.
• 1:12:44
  All these years of reviewing cheap horror have taken me to
• 1:12:47
  many dark places, but never I think to a movie that fills this
• 1:12:50
  damn non existent. I mean, he's.
• 1:12:54
  Not wrong. Yeah, really about.
• 1:12:58
  Anything he's saying but. I think that's part of the charm
• 1:13:01
  of it is that it is just mindless shots of it's can't be
• 1:13:07
  chaos. Yeah.
• 1:13:09
  Like I mean really I. Mean that is the reason that
• 1:13:11
  anybody would have any enjoyment that's the reason we love it so
• 1:13:14
  much like if I watched it for a straight up I'm wanting to be
• 1:13:18
  scared horror movie. This isn't going to be that pic
• 1:13:22
  yeah you know I'm here for a good time.
• 1:13:24
  One man's garbage day is. In fact, another man's treasure.
• 1:13:27
  Exactly. But you're right.
• 1:13:28
  He's he's right. About all of that stuff, like
• 1:13:30
  there's just a lot of nonsense, disjointed shit happening in
• 1:13:33
  this movie. That's a very good objective
• 1:13:36
  view. It's.
• 1:13:36
  Just the subjective takeaways that we get from that are, are
• 1:13:40
  polar opposites, yeah, but that's.
• 1:13:43
  Just that's, that's how it goes, man.
• 1:13:45
  It's this is probably one of the most subjective genres of film.
• 1:13:49
  I feel like there is out there. Yeah.
• 1:13:51
  All right, so now that we've got the critic review out of the
• 1:13:55
  way, let's go over to some listener reviews.
• 1:13:58
  OK, so we'll go over to Instagram, which is really the
• 1:14:01
  only place I got reviews. OK, so first.
• 1:14:04
  Off we have horror. Ryan who says all time holiday
• 1:14:07
  classic mix of over the top and slasher garbage day is my trash
• 1:14:11
  alarm tone nice. I love that that's.
• 1:14:14
  Cool. Also prompts you for putting.
• 1:14:16
  Out a trash alarm tone I know yeah, we're so bad about that
• 1:14:20
  our. Alarm tone is just our
• 1:14:21
  neighbors. Dragging out there her beats,
• 1:14:23
  Yeah. And dog barking in the
• 1:14:25
  neighborhood. Yeah, but yeah, I agree.
• 1:14:27
  It's an all time holiday classic for us too.
• 1:14:29
  I fucking love this movie. And finally, we have Michael E
• 1:14:34
  Howard, who says solid night. Deadly Night 2 is one of those
• 1:14:37
  movies you can't take too seriously.
• 1:14:39
  This definitely fits into the So Bad It's good category.
• 1:14:41
  First off, half the movie is the first one.
• 1:14:43
  Then you have the horrible acting that is both cringy and
• 1:14:46
  funny. For the sake of the camp, I will
• 1:14:48
  give it 7 out of 10. Nice.
• 1:14:50
  Which is perfect. Yes.
• 1:14:51
  Perfectly in line with us, too, as always, Michael.
• 1:14:54
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:14:56
  I just, you know, I, I don't care about the objectively bad
• 1:15:02
  things with this movie. It's just such a fun time.
• 1:15:05
  I love it so much. Every Christmas, watch it.
• 1:15:08
  I want more people to watch it. I'm kind of sad this isn't going
• 1:15:10
  to be in theaters. I know I would love to see this
• 1:15:13
  in. Theaters.
• 1:15:14
  Yeah, it would. Be a good time, but.
• 1:15:15
  It's also a great time at home, just like.
• 1:15:17
  You know, drinking and having fun.
• 1:15:19
  Absolutely. It's a fun movie.
• 1:15:20
  A movie that like drunk watch if you're into that type of thing.
• 1:15:24
  You know what another fun movie is?
• 1:15:26
  What? The movie we're talking about
• 1:15:27
  next week. What movie is that?
• 1:15:29
  It's a. Wonderful knife.
• 1:15:31
  This was voted on by our patrons.
• 1:15:33
  We actually did get to see this in theaters last year, so we're
• 1:15:36
  excited to watch it again and to talk about it.
• 1:15:39
  It's a wonderful knife. It's currently available for
• 1:15:43
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• 1:15:53
  Fandango, or you can rent it from Fandango at home or Google
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  Play. Is it still on shutter?
• 1:15:59
  It's on shutter. OK, Still on shutter, too.
• 1:16:01
  Yeah. Your main ones are gonna be
• 1:16:02
  shutter. Hulu and AMC, if you're ever
• 1:16:04
  subscribed to anything through those, you'll be good to go on
• 1:16:06
  this. Yes, definitely check.
• 1:16:08
  Out that movie, I think it is wonderful.
• 1:16:12
  A wonderful knife. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:16
  It's a fun movie. I liked it a lot too.
• 1:16:18
  It's yeah, you know, Justin Long.
• 1:16:20
  If you got your Justin Long fans out there, get ready.
• 1:16:23
  Get ready to hate them. Justin Long as a murderous.
• 1:16:26
  Uncle Baby Billy? Basically, yeah.
• 1:16:29
  It's amazing, yeah. It's a good time.
• 1:16:32
  So if you haven't seen it, absolutely watch it.
• 1:16:34
  And if you have seen him, watch it again.
• 1:16:35
  Yeah, that's what we're doing, yeah.
• 1:16:38
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• 1:16:42
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