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Brewsers #399- Rich King · Brewsers

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Bruisers, a podcast about beer, coffee, booze, and Bruisers.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rody John, and today we talk to
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  Speaker 1: Rich King. We talk about entering the world of pro wrestling,
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  Speaker 1: being a trainer, and so much more. Rich is doing
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  Speaker 1: absolutely incredible things on the independent scene, and you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to hear it from me, you want to hear
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  Speaker 1: it from him, because his story is amazing. So without
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  Speaker 1: further ado, here is Rich King. I would like to
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  Speaker 1: welcome to the show Rich King. How are you doing today, sir?
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  Speaker 2: We're doing great. There is another thunderstorm here in Edmonton,
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  Speaker 2: so it just brings the energy.
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  Speaker 1: Very nice. Well, I was going to say, paint this
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  Speaker 1: word picture where you're at, what's going on around you,
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  Speaker 1: but you already started.
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  Speaker 2: Nailed it already. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so how bad is the rain going on up there?
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty terrible, to be honest with you. We've had
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  Speaker 2: more rain in Edmonton than New Orleans, I saw. So
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  Speaker 2: we've had like 500 and some millimeters of rain as
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  Speaker 2: of the start of August. And we're just adding to
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  Speaker 2: that number every day, it feels like.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say, we're only four days in.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how much more you guys are getting.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we got some today. We got some a few
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  Speaker 2: days ago. So again, it's a nonstop. If it's not
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  Speaker 2: the rain, it's the mosquitoes. So yeah, it's quite the
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  Speaker 2: time to be alive in this part of the woods. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: As somebody from North Texas, I was lucky enough to
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  Speaker 1: be in Cancun for four days. And when I got back,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah, that's what I didn't miss. Mosquitoes. Fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: It's lovely when you don't have them.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it was so fantastic. We'd just be outside and
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  Speaker 1: hanging out, no problem whatsoever. And then all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden you come back and you're like, oh, this is
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  Speaker 1: what I came back to.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's go all the way back in time. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: people don't want to hear us talk about mosquitoes, even
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  Speaker 1: though I'm pretty sure we could for quite a while.
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  Speaker 1: What is your earliest memory of pro wrestling?
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  Speaker 2: My earliest moment of remembering pro wrestling was back when
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  Speaker 2: I was, I must've been like seven or eight. It
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  Speaker 2: was me and one of my best friends and we
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  Speaker 2: were playing WWF Warzone. I don't know if it was
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  Speaker 2: just randomly we started playing that or I remember vividly
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  Speaker 2: watching some of the old Stone Cold Steve Austin VHS collections,
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  Speaker 2: really showing my age there. But, uh, but yeah, just,
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  Speaker 2: I remember seeing Stone Cold and, uh, the one segment
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  Speaker 2: that I'll always remember as kind of the first one
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  Speaker 2: was he ended up, uh, beating up Gold Dust, who
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  Speaker 2: wasn't really Gold Dust at the time. He was dressed
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  Speaker 2: as a giant baby. And, uh.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yes, I remember this.
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  Speaker 2: And then he got thrown into a porta potty and
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  Speaker 2: the porta potty got knocked over. And that stuck with
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  Speaker 2: me as my very first, like, wrestling actual memory. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people have, uh, you know, a match
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  Speaker 2: or something that they latch onto. And Goldust being a
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  Speaker 2: giant baby is mine. So that's fun.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever, I mean, I mean, I hope you
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  Speaker 1: have now, but have you gone back now and watched
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  Speaker 1: that actual feud of Goldust turning into the baby? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: obviously with the Pillman and the Marlena, and it was
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  Speaker 1: just such a weird, obviously very Russo-esque Attitude Era situation
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  Speaker 1: going on. But like, His slow progression into becoming that
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  Speaker 1: baby was just ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't revisited it. At one point before the WWE
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  Speaker 2: Network got switched over to Netflix and Peacock and all that,
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  Speaker 2: I was slowly making my way through different Monday Night
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  Speaker 2: Raws and I just never got around to that section
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  Speaker 2: of it at least.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a hard time, but I don't... I
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  Speaker 1: don't go back because I lived so much of it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel like I want to go back because also, again,
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  Speaker 1: so luckily we're in a time where if I grew up,
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  Speaker 1: I've said this multiple times. So anybody who's heard this before,
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  Speaker 1: I'd say sorry, but I'm not. If I grew up
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  Speaker 1: like as a fan now, but like as a. teenager
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  Speaker 1: as a kid, I wouldn't have any friends outside of
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  Speaker 1: anybody possibly new on the internet because I would literally
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  Speaker 1: just be watching wrestling from the time I woke up
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  Speaker 1: to the time I went to sleep. But back then
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  Speaker 1: I actually had to wait till Monday. And then I
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  Speaker 1: had to like divide my time between two different channels
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  Speaker 1: or Saturday or whatever it was. And so now for me,
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  Speaker 1: like going back is somewhat difficult because there's so much
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  Speaker 1: that I haven't watched yet. Like I'm still trying to,
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  Speaker 1: I always feel like I'm playing catch up.
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  Speaker 2: There's just so much wrestling out there right now, whether
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  Speaker 2: you're watching more of the mainstream stuff with WWE and AEW, TNA.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just there is a week's worth of wrestling
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  Speaker 2: that you could be watching at any time. Plus, if
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  Speaker 2: you want to revisit anything that you might have missed,
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  Speaker 2: you might want to watch MLW or maybe something going
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  Speaker 2: on up here in Canada. We have Maple Leaf Pro
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  Speaker 2: Wrestling now.
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  Speaker 1: Maple Leaf's so fantastic. I love that for Canada.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, just so awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Mystery Wrestling also is doing fantastic things when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to Canada. On the other side of the spectrum, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then you have your own local shows and then
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  Speaker 2: you have your own wrestling events. If you wanted to,
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  Speaker 2: wrestling could be your entire life these days.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so how old were you when you realized that
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  Speaker 1: this is what you wanted to do? Because I want
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  Speaker 1: to ask that before I get into the next question.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. I I think I knew almost right
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  Speaker 2: away that that's something that I wanted to do. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: it was kind of a dream of mine growing up.
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  Speaker 2: Like I, I had always dreamed of becoming a hockey
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  Speaker 2: player as every Canadian kid does. And, uh, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: I just realized I wasn't that great at it. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't always the tallest kid and still I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: So basketball wasn't really it, but wrestling was always this
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  Speaker 2: thing that I had kind of in my back pocket
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  Speaker 2: that it was something that I wanted to chase. And
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  Speaker 2: I wish I didn't take so long to chase it,
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  Speaker 2: but we got here. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, at least you're here.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So I ask that because I'm curious, what is now your,
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  Speaker 1: what is your wrestling consumption now?
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  Speaker 2: My wrestling consumption is varied. There's times where my own
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  Speaker 2: wrestling career takes up so much of my life that
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  Speaker 2: I can't really follow up on too much of just
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  Speaker 2: watching day-to-day products. I mean, I run my own business
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  Speaker 2: as well. So it's like sometimes squeezing in the random
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  Speaker 2: Monday Night Raw is pretty difficult or I'll throw it
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  Speaker 2: on in the background and not really catch up. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I try to watch at least like one or two
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  Speaker 2: matches for sure a week that I try to take
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  Speaker 2: something from or try to learn from, almost like a
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  Speaker 2: tape study, if you will. But it's just like, It
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  Speaker 2: just keeps me fresh and keeps new ideas coming in.
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  Speaker 2: This past month, I've had a much slower schedule, so
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  Speaker 2: I've been kind of diving back into a lot of
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  Speaker 2: different old wrestling. Not always the good stuff. Sometimes it's
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  Speaker 2: enjoyable to go back and watch some of the crappy stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I always find, at least my personal appreciation,
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  Speaker 2: is a lot in the storytelling aspect of it. I
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  Speaker 2: find myself... gravitating towards that rather than just specific matches
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  Speaker 2: so it's like going back and revisiting story beats and
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  Speaker 2: how did they get to this point and where did
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  Speaker 2: they go and those kind of things that really get
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  Speaker 2: me so things like wwe unreal are just like my
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  Speaker 2: jam that right same thing um i love the behind
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  Speaker 2: the scenes stuff i've loved it ever since i was
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  Speaker 2: a kid when i was a kid again uh dating
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  Speaker 2: myself but the internet just started being a thing damn
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  Speaker 2: yeah so you could like end up uh reading what
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  Speaker 2: was the website i used to always go on to
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  Speaker 2: obsessed with wrestling.
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  Speaker 1: Okay yeah i remember i remember that one yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You do yeah so they have like that big three
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  Speaker 2: um i forget what the there was a couple other
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  Speaker 2: but yeah yeah yeah and that's and there was another
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  Speaker 2: like prowrestlingnews.com was another one that i followed quite diligently
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  Speaker 2: but i always i was always enthralled with the behind
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  Speaker 2: the scenes stories like a lot of times that was
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  Speaker 2: kind of more interesting to me than what was happening
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  Speaker 2: in front of the cameras so I really appreciate that
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  Speaker 2: side of things and I find that stuff fun. So
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  Speaker 2: a lot of my wrestling consumption, isn't just the actual
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  Speaker 2: shows or the matches, it's kind of behind the scenes
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  Speaker 2: stuff where like the, uh, the superstar documentaries that they
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  Speaker 2: put out, uh, years and years ago. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, I, I, I'm always curious what people's consumption are
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  Speaker 1: nowadays considering, because again, especially I hear, I've heard from
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  Speaker 1: so many people that once you get in the business,
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  Speaker 1: their consumption just goes so much far down than it
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  Speaker 1: used to because it was just, they're in it, they're
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  Speaker 1: living it every day. And also sometimes it's because they've
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  Speaker 1: met some of these people and they're like, oh, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Not that they're like jealous. Yes, exactly. Meeting your hero situation, which,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I've definitely met some where I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: but again, it's everybody you have to, it's just people
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  Speaker 1: in general. You have to meet them where they are.
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  Speaker 1: that day so you don't know what happened before you
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  Speaker 1: even got to them that day they could have had
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  Speaker 1: they work up or they woke up with the wrong
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  Speaker 1: side of the bed somebody cut them off in traffic
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  Speaker 1: starbucks got their stuff wrong whatever it is or flights
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  Speaker 1: or travel or whatever it is yeah so like you
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  Speaker 1: just kind of meet them where they are so you
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  Speaker 1: know you hope you have other interactions later in the
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  Speaker 1: future but that one you did have maybe.
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  Speaker 2: Not the best yeah absolutely I've had plenty of experiences
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  Speaker 2: very similar I don't think it ever turned me off
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  Speaker 2: from watching anybody wrestle but yeah there's definitely situations that
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  Speaker 2: come up where it's like you meet somebody you're excited
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  Speaker 2: for it but for them it's just another town along
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  Speaker 2: the tour you know and it's it's just something that
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  Speaker 2: you accept and like you said things like travel specifically
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  Speaker 2: are so huge especially living here in Edmonton, Alberta, we
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  Speaker 2: are fairly North. I think we're one of the bigger
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  Speaker 2: cities that are further North than anywhere else in Canada.
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  Speaker 2: So sometimes like, again, I don't blame somebody for being
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  Speaker 2: a little grumpy because they had a long travel day.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. Well, also, I mean, like you said, you
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  Speaker 1: guys are so far North. What, when you did decide
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  Speaker 1: to get, you know, obviously trained and everything, how did
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  Speaker 1: you end up finding a school?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so actually, I'm from even further north than Edmonton.
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  Speaker 2: I'm actually from Whitehorse, Yukon, which is a very remote
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  Speaker 2: place up in the Yukon Territories, very close to Alaska
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  Speaker 2: for American viewers who might not know where that is.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so growing up there, it was very isolated,
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  Speaker 2: so there wasn't a lot of wrestling. I remember there
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  Speaker 2: was like one independent show that just happened to come
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  Speaker 2: up there, probably back in.
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  Speaker 1: Was that the Death Tours?
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  Speaker 2: So that wasn't the death tours. The death tours are
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  Speaker 2: more of the northern Manitoba, northern Ontario, Quebec kind of various.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so other side of the, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, whereas the Yukon, we had the one show. It
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  Speaker 2: had Jim Anvil and Honky Tonk Man on it, very
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  Speaker 2: past their prime. And, you know, I was at the age,
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  Speaker 2: I think I was like 15 or 16, where it
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  Speaker 2: was more just like, you kind of make fun of it,
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  Speaker 2: but it was still cool to see live. So there
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  Speaker 2: wasn't a lot of wrestling up where I was growing up.
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  Speaker 2: But when I moved down to Alberta, it was always
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  Speaker 2: kind of in the back of my mind. And it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't until 2018 that I actually jumped into it. So
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  Speaker 2: probably a good 20 years after I actually became a fan. Um,
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  Speaker 2: that I finally took the plunge. Um, it's funny because like, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I was on my way to a funeral and, uh,
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  Speaker 2: it was just one of those realizations that it's like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm still young enough. I'm fit enough. And the means
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  Speaker 2: are there, uh, financially. So it's like, why don't I
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  Speaker 2: just take the shot? So while I was on this drive,
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  Speaker 2: I don't recommend this. I was on my phone and driving,
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  Speaker 2: looked up a pro wrestling school in Edmonton, found one.
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  Speaker 2: They had a training camp going in February. It was
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  Speaker 2: January at the time. I signed up, went and met them,
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  Speaker 2: and then off I was running with my pro wrestling career.
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  Speaker 1: What were you doing before pro wrestling? Before that, you
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  Speaker 1: were like, you know what? What am I wasting my
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  Speaker 1: time for?
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 2: There was a lot of things that kind of came
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  Speaker 2: up in life and it was a lot of just
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  Speaker 2: kind of pushing it off. It's like, it was kind
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  Speaker 2: of like one of those things where it's like, I'll
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  Speaker 2: do it when I do X, Y, or Z. So
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  Speaker 2: like I was working as a personal trainer. You know,
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  Speaker 2: as you go through high school, you get new interests,
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  Speaker 2: especially in like, you know, dating girls, sports, wrestling stops
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  Speaker 2: becoming the cool thing. And it's kind of lame because
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  Speaker 2: the UFC is over here now. So it was a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more of like a closeted wrestling fan. And
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  Speaker 2: then as I got into college, it was a lot
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  Speaker 2: more about partying and hanging out with friends. Then after college,
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  Speaker 2: it was about making money and again, chasing girls. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it was always something that happened where it
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  Speaker 2: just kind of got pushed off until it just, I
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  Speaker 2: kind of fell back into it by happenstance because there
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  Speaker 2: was a wrestling show that came up here And I
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  Speaker 2: think it was 2016 and me and three of my
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  Speaker 2: friends hadn't been to a show in forever. So we
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  Speaker 2: just went, um, and in the lead up to the show,
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  Speaker 2: just to understand what was happening. Like I started watching
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  Speaker 2: raw again, started watching SmackDown again. This was kind of
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  Speaker 2: the time where, uh, it was AJ Styles and Dean
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  Speaker 2: Ambrose on SmackDown. Uh, Kevin Owens was the champion on raw. Um, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And it was just kind of like falling back into
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  Speaker 2: who all these characters are. What are all the stories
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  Speaker 2: behind these people? Because I'd follow just very kind of
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  Speaker 2: from afar things that I thought were cool, like the
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  Speaker 2: CM Punk pipe bomb or the Nexus coming in, like
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  Speaker 2: those types of things, but never really like diligently watching
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  Speaker 2: until that point. So I, I got back into it
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  Speaker 2: and that's when my fandom really started. So I was
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  Speaker 2: really focused on my personal training career, relationships, all that
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  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. When I re-found all this stuff, the
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  Speaker 2: girl I was dating at the time was actually going
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  Speaker 2: to go to school in Ireland for four years.
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  Speaker 1: Jeez.
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  Speaker 2: Four years? Two or four years. One of the two.
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  Speaker 2: My memory is not the same since entering wrestling. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: but actually I think it was two years because I
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  Speaker 2: was going to get myself two years. Let's see where
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  Speaker 2: this takes me. At least I can say I did it. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we're sitting here eight years later with the
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  Speaker 2: longest two year career in history.
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  Speaker 1: So, uh, I mean, now a lot of us are
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  Speaker 1: curious what happened with the girl.
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  Speaker 2: We broke up within a year, basically long distance just
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  Speaker 2: wasn't working. And again, just, uh, in reflection, I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: mature enough to be in that relationship at the time too.
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  Speaker 2: So it was, uh, It was a learning situation. Of course.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, long distance is not easy. I've tried it multiple times,
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  Speaker 1: and it's shockingly never worked.
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  Speaker 2: I've had the same experience.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, so tell us about your first bump. What
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  Speaker 1: was that situation like?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the first bump. So, uh, when, when I went
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  Speaker 2: into the wrestling school, I was super nervous. And one
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  Speaker 2: of the things that I always thought is because I
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  Speaker 2: was such a big wrestling fan that I would take
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  Speaker 2: to this, like nothing else. Like I would, I would
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  Speaker 2: be a pro in no time. People would be blown
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  Speaker 2: out of the water with how good I was. And
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  Speaker 2: that's just not the case. You don't know what you
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  Speaker 2: don't know. And there was so much to it that, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't realize that you have to get into. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: specifically in the footwork side of things, the footwork, I
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  Speaker 2: just had a hard time getting down. Um, and it
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  Speaker 2: was just super frustrating, but, uh, but yeah, throughout the process,
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  Speaker 2: it was starting with like, uh, the, the lockup, the
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  Speaker 2: footwork hitting the ropes, and then eventually came into the
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  Speaker 2: first break fall and you hit that break fall and
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  Speaker 2: it's like, holy shit. Um, And like at the time
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't too bad. Like again, the first one was
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  Speaker 2: like a little jarring. It's like, okay, that's a little weird.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't feel the best, but that's okay. But you
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  Speaker 2: go on throughout the day and it just becomes normal
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  Speaker 2: until you wake up the next day. And it feels
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  Speaker 2: like you've been in a car accident with a train
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  Speaker 2: rear ending you because your neck is so jacked up.
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  Speaker 2: Your upper back is so tight. And it's like, what
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  Speaker 2: have I done to myself? Um, so it's just one
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  Speaker 2: of those things where I woke up the next day
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  Speaker 2: and it was just like, you sure you want to
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  Speaker 2: do this? Like, you sure you want to go back
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  Speaker 2: for day two? Like, uh, it was almost like a
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  Speaker 2: reality check for me because I thought for sure, like
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  Speaker 2: I would fall in love with it. As soon as
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: I was in the ring, I would be a natural
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: at it. And when none of that was true and
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I woke up just so sore, I was like, oh damn,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: like this is real. Like this, this is no joke. And, uh,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: after that though, I, I, fortunately I, I forced myself
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: to go back, um, and then continued on. So, uh,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: but that first bump, it's, it's a wake up call.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: That's for sure. Yeah.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I've always heard that. And it is, uh, yeah, I've
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: always heard it's not, like you said, it's a wake
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: up call and it's really a gut check of like, Oh, Hey,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: do I really want to keep doing this?
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And again, I wouldn't even say it was the
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: first bump that was memorable. It was just waking up
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: the next day. It's like since joining wrestling, I think
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: my neck has just been permanently stiff.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: So, well, I mean, you touched, you mentioned it multiple times.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: You're a personal trainer again on the side. What did,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: how did you eventually get into that?
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So personal training actually came first. So, uh, again, I,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I credit it wrestling for my initial kind of, um,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I guess entry into the fitness realm because like, obviously
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: the smallest guy on the roster is listed at like
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: six one, but like, um, six one, like two Oh five.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, I gotta get to be at
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: least that size. So I started doing push-ups. My mom
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: had a few weights, so I'd do some bicep curls,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: more push-ups, sit-ups. Surprisingly, no squats or lunges, which I
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: probably should have done.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: So you got to work that bottom half.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I just ignored that part initially.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: It's a number body business, brother.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: It's a number body business. I'm a high school kid.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Even younger than that, I guess when I started doing
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: all these like little workouts and stuff. So even like
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: my first introduction to interval training was actually during the
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Royal Rumble when basically I would go, I would do
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: pushups and in between each entry until the 30 second countdown, right?
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: And then it would be watched the 30 second countdown
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: and then do pushups again. So it was a, it
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: was a funny or a 10 second countdown or whatever
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: it was. So it was a funny way to get
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: into interval training, but, but yeah, and then. I just
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: kind of fell in love with working out, sports, all
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. I had done some coaching in
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: basketball in my senior year and I really enjoyed that.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I had no idea what I wanted to do with
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: my life after high school. I went into business and
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I really didn't like business. So I went into kinesiology,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: which is the study of how the body moves essentially.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: And I just fell in love with it because it
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: taught me all the things I wanted to learn about
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: specifically about the body, how anatomy works, nutrition and biomechanics,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: just the intricacies behind it. So it at least taught
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: me the base. And with that, I also got my
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: personal training certification through that. So then right as soon
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: as I got out of high school, I worked for
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: myself for a little bit back in Whitehorse, Yukon. And
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: it's not a big city and personal training was essentially
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: enough to pay for My beer and my gas, I
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: was living with my parents and I could see that
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: if I stayed up there, my life really wasn't going
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: to go anywhere. So I moved back down to Red Deer, Alberta. Uh,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: for another four years, worked for a private company, uh,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: really kind of established a name as a personal trainer there. Uh,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I ended up getting promoted in that business to becoming
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: a general manager of their Sherwood park location. which is
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: just outside of Edmonton. It's like a little suburb there.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: And then, yeah, so that's what brought me up to Edmonton.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: And then from about 2014 to 2021, I was working
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: for them. And then pandemic, post-pandemic, we had different views
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: of how the organization and business should run. I ended
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: up getting let go. And then I ended up opening
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: up my own personal training business. And it's probably been
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: one of the best things I've ever done for myself.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: So outside of joining wrestling.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, there's so many things I want to touch on. Okay,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: first off, I love what you were doing with the
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Royal Rumble. I hope that you actually make that into
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: a challenge for people to watch the Royal Rumble every year.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Maybe a different situation. Also, we never know how much
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: time is in between, so we'll figure it out.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Now that I'm thinking about it, I probably had that backwards.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I was probably doing as many push-ups as I could
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: in the 10-second count. Ah, okay. And then watching the rest.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Because I was thinking, two minutes of doing straight push-ups
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: as a 15-year-old would be crazy. I mean, yeah, you.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Recover faster, really, because you're 15.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: When you're younger, I guess. But yeah, it's probably the
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: 10 seconds. Do as many as you can. And then
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: watch the rest.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: So I mentioned that because I have heard an interview
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: with Henry Rollins where he would listen to an album
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and then whatever during the song, he would
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: either do pull-ups or push-ups or squats or whatever it is.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: And that's just what he does because he's a freak
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: of nature also.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, I used to do that with running a
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: lot where it would be like, okay, we're going to
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: turn on this song. I'm going to run as hard
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: as I can until this song's done. And then the
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: next song is my recovery.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: As I learn about the fitness side of things, that's
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: not always the best way to actually improve your cardio.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: But when you're young and dumb and just want to
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: challenge and you just want to push yourself, why not
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: try it out?
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Also, I thought it was hilarious that you went
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: to school for business and you said, nah, I'm good.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: And then ended up starting your own business and being
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: a small business person.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's funny how life works out that way. It's like,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I knew business would kind of associate with everything and
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: that's what helped me get the general manager job. It
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: helped me with a little bit of marketing, but again,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: it gave me that baseline to feel confident, at least
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: going off on my own. And yeah, it's funny how
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: life works out that way. Probably should have stayed in
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: business a little longer and this would have been smoother,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: but it's been a hell of a ride for the
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: last five years.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Again, you got to learn on your own and that's
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: just how life works, really.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: That's how it goes. You don't learn unless you start
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: doing it.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Exactly. So I want to kind of touch on the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: pandemic real fast, mainly because I know Canada was so
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: far different than a lot of, obviously, I'm here in
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: America and I'm here in Texas where it's almost like
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: it didn't happen. But my brother was, he lives up
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: in the Ontario province. And so he was telling me
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: about just, you know, how many different lockdowns you guys
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: would have. So, I mean, obviously, I imagine each province
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: was a little different. I'm not exactly sure if it
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: was just a widespread thing. But if you want to
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: touch on real fast how that kind of situation ended
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: up with you guys, because, again, it was so much
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: different everywhere else.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it was a scary time. We had
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: no idea what was going on. We had the initial
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: lockdown starting, I believe it was in March of 2020.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: when everything kind of hit the fan. Actually, yeah, it
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: was just right around St. Patrick's Day, which was super unfortunate.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I still remember Rudy Gobert trying to touch all the
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: mics and everything and closing down the NBA. But yeah,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: it's such a weird time to look back at because realistically,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I always look at it, it was like a sample
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: retirement and it made me realize I can't just sit
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: around and play video games, drink, or just watch movies
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: all day because I'm just going to lose my mind.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: So the initial lockdown lasted from March until about, I
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: want to say July. We came back for work. We
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: were able to go back to work and everything for
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: the fitness industry. I believe it was July. Okay. Um, uh,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: right around Christmas time, we saw a big spike and,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: and again, each province was a little bit different. The
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: initial one was kind of a federal thing and then
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: it kind of came down into, um, you know, where
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: we were at in terms of active cases and ICU
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: and all that. Um, again, very scary stuff, uh, in
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: the long run, but, uh, yeah, we had one right
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: around Christmas, which turned into a bit of a Christmas break,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: which was again, kind of nice. Uh, came back in
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: February of 2021, uh, did a month there. And then
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: in 2021, I believe it was. I believe it was
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: may or June. I think it was June. We closed
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: down one more time for gyms at least. And, um,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: it was the, it was after the first month of
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: running my own business. So that's the example of trying
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: my own business. We closed it down for a month,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: and then I was back at it after that. And
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: then we've been pretty clear since then. But yeah, it
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: was an interesting time for sure. It's going to be
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: interesting to see what the history books write about this
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: time in the world.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I was living through it, and I thought the exact
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: same thing. I can't wait to see what the history
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: books look back on. And kids are like, so tell
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: us what happened during. I was like, sit down, kid.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: We got some time.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of angry people out there
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: in the world, but there was no right answer. There
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: was no wrong answer. And I would have rather been
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: overly safe than not safe enough.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Without a doubt. I just wanted to put that
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: out there because I know everybody handled it so differently.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: And I was, I'm always curious about how Canada dealt
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: it because my brother kept telling us stuff and it
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: was like, it's not that bad here, but okay. I mean, I,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: you know, there's no playbook for this thing so we're
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: all just figuring it out as we're going.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Very precautionary time yes well so how does when you
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: got into pro wrestling how did your personal training change
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: for yourself because being in personal training shape and being
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: in ring shape is a completely different situation Yeah.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Well, a lot more cardio was factored into the wrestling
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: side of things because you have to have a good
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: gas tank for that.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: And, uh, what do you find is the best role?
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't mean to cut you off, but like, what is,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: what do you, cause everyone says that, and I'm always
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: curious cause everybody loves cardio in a different way. What
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: is your kind of cardio that you think is the
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: best for getting in really good ring shape?
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it's just, uh, number one, it would
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: just be wrestling practice. The more efficient you are at
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: the movements in the ring, the better, uh, the less
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: energy it takes to do. It's like running. If you're
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: really bad at running and you haven't ran a lot before,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: you're going to burn a lot of energy right off
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: the hop, just figuring it out. But as you get
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: more efficient, you get better at it. So wrestling practice
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: number one is probably the best to help with getting
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: in ring shape. But then doing things like interval training,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: it plays a huge factor in that. And that's where
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: you do like, I'm a big fan right now of
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: doing like 20 seconds hard as you can, And then
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: you take like a 40 to 60 second break. You
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: get your heart rate back down and then you go again.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I've been big into the heart rate training lately, just
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: so I have a little bit more on the number
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: side of things uh, with recovery. Um, just because people
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: don't look at recovery nearly enough for doing intervals and
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: really improving the cardio. So I'm a bit, I'm a
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: big fan of running and jumping and doing those athletic
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: things in the gym, uh, for cardio rather than just
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: doing like the, you know, 10 mile run. Right.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or just hopping on the ecliptical or the Stairmaster
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: or whatever it is.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Like, they're fine, but they're not my bread
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: and butter. Right.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Also, you're not challenging yourself because you're not, as a
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: match ebbs and flows, you're not obviously putting out the
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: same energy. So that means the capacity in your lungs
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: doesn't need to be the same the entire time, but
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: it does need to keep up with what you're doing,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: like you said, going up and down, the interval training.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes and no, because you need that cardiovascular base
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: to at least have that recovery. So that's where longer
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: distance cardio can actually help out, uh, and just have
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: at least a baseline where it's like, it helps you
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: recover in those in-between times. So you're not just huffing
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: and puffing and wheezing the whole time. Uh, it allows
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: you to catch your breath and you're, you're able to
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: continue to go. Right. So it's, it's all these different
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: parts that work together. And that's, what's fascinating about the
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: fitness businesses. You learn how it all meshes together.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Right now. I'm also always curious when it comes to
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: fitness because people, I always think that people need to
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: find out what works for them. Card or like weightlifting
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: works for some people, Pilates works for other people, CrossFit,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: these hydrics training, which I think is nuts because I
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: hate running in general. But like, again, yoga works for everybody.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: So like you have to find whatever your thing is
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: when it comes to actually fitness or whatever it is.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: But I also always tell people, what you put in
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: your body before and after is way more important than
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: what you do when you're doing your physical activities or whatever.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: So what do you kind of try to steer people
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: toward when it comes to taking things out or adding
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: things or whatever it is? I mean, honestly, I think
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, everyone can't afford it
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: because luckily y'all have so much better medical situation than
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: we do here in America. But I think people need
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: to get, um, food allergy tests. I need to, I
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: think they also, I think that we've done really good
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: when it comes to genealogy of like, okay, you're part,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: this part, this part, this, this food is great for
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: your kind of, uh, body, but this food, maybe not
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: so much, maybe take it down a little bit. So
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: like that kind of stuff, where do you kind of
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: like to lean people or kind of steer people when
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: it comes to what they are not putting in their body?
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my big thing is just awareness. A lot of
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: times people don't even know what they're putting in their bodies.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: So what I'll recommend most people do is actually just
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: track their food for a period of time. I actually
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: just developed an entire nutrition framework for my clients that
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: help out, just kind of make it simple for the
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: first four weeks before you do anything. But I find
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: just a lot of times people, if they track their food,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: If they weigh their food and they can do that
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: for an honest four weeks and just see where they're at.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: A lot of times they'll just naturally make better choices anyways.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: So you don't necessarily even need to go on one
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: of these fancy diets that have a cool name like
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: carnivore or keto or anything like that. You can enjoy
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: anything you want, but it just needs to be in moderation.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: You need to understand what that number actually does to
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: your body. Right. as much as we want to try
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: to pretend, calories are what matter, essentially, when it comes
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: to fat loss or weight loss, and a lot of
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: different health markers as well. Now, obviously, micronutrients play a
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: factor into that as well, and that's a big story
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: for another time. But usually, I'll just try to get
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: people to bring awareness to what you're actually doing. That's
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: the That's one of the biggest things. And that's the
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: same thing with our activity. It's like, you don't know
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: what you don't know. So if you're not tracking how
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: many calories are in the four donuts that you ate
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: first thing in the morning, then you don't realize that
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: you're consuming probably an extra 1500 calories before you eat
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: anything else, right? So it's, yeah, nutrition builds the base
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: of our health and wellness. And if we want to
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: have a healthier life, we need to have that preventative step. Now,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: that doesn't mean you have to eat nothing but chicken,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: rice and green beans or just not salads for the
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: rest of your life. But occasionally you do have to
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: throw in some vegetables and occasionally you have to throw
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: in a piece of fruit. Occasionally you might have to
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: have like a little bit of a lower fat chicken
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: breast rather than having, you know, chicken tenders all the time. Right.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I always say, I mean, include and become friends
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: with your vegetables. love your vegetables, love your fruit, because
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: those are, especially if you can find anything locally grown,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: that's so much better for you because of the fact
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: that the nutrients are already in the ground that you
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: already walk on or walk by. So that's always fantastic.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: And sometimes it's always nice to just have like a
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: little vegetarian meal. Like there's also just like expand the
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: way you make food, because like you said, you could,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: you could do chicken, broccoli and rice all day long,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: but like, It gets real boring. And so that's why
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of people, yeah, that's why a lot of
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: the bodybuilders are very upset and not cool before they
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: actually compete. But afterwards, they're totally fine eating pizza.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Very true.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, while we're on the subject of the body,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: if people were, okay, so we've all been to wrestling
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: shows and we've seen what a lot of wrestling fans
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: look like. I'm not trying to shame anybody. But I
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: do want to say that I think a lot of
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: people in the wrestling fan community could use a regular
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: fitness routine or just physical activity in general. So I'm
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: not saying that they all need to go run 5Ks
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: or the Boston Marathon or whatever it is. But being active,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: walking around, it's so good for not only your body,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: but your brain as well. And so I think that
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: might also help out a lot with the turmoil that
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: is on the Twitter or the X or whatever you
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: call it when it comes to the wrestling community as well.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: So if somebody wanted to just start working and moving
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: around and again, like you said, eating better and just
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: putting better things in their body, where do you suggest
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: people kind of start? Just one, like just the basic things.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like again, the basics of starting would simply be
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: to find a habit that you can build off of.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: And just focus on that and do one thing at
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: a time. So maybe it might be just going for
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: a walk after you have dinner every day, whether it's raining,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: whether it's snowing here in Canada, you probably don't get
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of that down there.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: One week out of the year and that's it.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Or if the sun's shining, right? Just start with going
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: for a walk, try to get your physical activity up
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: a little bit. From there, maybe you add an extra
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: piece of fruit in every day, right? Whether that's for
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: breakfast or for... for lunch, middle of the day, whenever
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: it is, doesn't matter. And then once those things become easy,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: maybe you drink an extra glass of water instead of
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: having a pop. Maybe instead of having a full sugar pop,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: you move to zero sugar pop. You know, it's making
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: those small adjustments to make this easy for you. And honestly,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: like a lot of times people think that they have
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: to completely overhaul their life and they really are just
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: missing one or two things And their body completely can
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: change on them. So it's like, if you can find
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: those two or three small habits that take the minimal
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: amount of effort, but you see a maximum amount of
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: change on that, that's awesome. Like you don't necessarily need
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: to be in the gym five days a week, but
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: you just need to be a little bit more active.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: If you just need to be a little bit more
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: conscious about your health, right? Take care of yourself just
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: a little bit more. And usually just doing those small
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: things leads to, you know, a bit of success when
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: it comes to fitting in your clothes a little bit better,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: a little bit more energy, clearer thinking, whatever it might be.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: And then you start to think to yourself, it's like,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe I want to do this a little
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: bit more. So then you build the confidence in being
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: able to do this. So then you take the next
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: step and then you take the next step. And then
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, without even really thinking about it,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: you're you know, going for, you know, two, uh, two
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: kilometer walks every day, you're eating more protein, fiber, vegetables, fruits,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: whatever you need, uh, on a daily basis. So it's
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: just about low, small changes that make it a sustainable
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: habit for yourself and things that you find easy. Right. Um,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I'm always a big fan of take it slow. Because
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: that's what's going to be sustainable. A lot of people
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: are trying to win the month, win the day, win
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: the year. But it's much easier to lose 30 pounds
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: over a two-year time frame than it is in a month.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: So life is going to look very different for you
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: if you try either one of those two things.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. Again, it's building that confidence. And once
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: you start seeing results, you... instantly start being like, oh, okay, well, maybe,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: like you said, it's just building a little bit of
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: confidence every time. Whether your shirt's feeling less tight than
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: it was before or tighter in a better way. Or again,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: your shorts are going in on a different way or
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: your replica belts fit in a different snap because you
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: have been doing things. So like, it's little things that,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: you know, in the long run really help you out.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: And again, with modern technology and science, we're probably going
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: to live closer to a hundred than we are just
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies that we're used to, or unfortunately
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: in the pro wrestling world in the forties or fifties.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, a lot of people in wrestling today,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: especially in mainstream wrestling are the same age that a
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: lot of the wrestlers that from the eighties and seventies
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: have lived to unfortunately. Right. So it's just about taking
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: better care of your body. You can see it in
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: almost every aspect. I mean, LeBron James is a perfect
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: example of how far nutrition science and sports science has
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: been able to create an environment where we have the
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: ability to have that longevity, right? Where he gets to
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: play basketball at a professional level with his son, which
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: is crazy. But yeah, I think this is just the
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: tip to the iceberg because we're going to see a
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: lot more of that And as more studies and more
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: research and more money gets sunk into this, we're going
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: to see that happen quite a bit. And with advancements
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: in like AI even to help out with that, the
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: sky's the limit to what is possible in the next
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: 20 years if you don't get hit by a bus
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: or mosquitoes take you away.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or a moose crosses your path while you're trying
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: to drive down the road.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Now that is terrifying, yes. Yes.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: They're giant creatures. People don't think about it. Once they
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: come in contact with a moose, that motherfucker's huge.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: It's such a silly name for such a dangerous animal.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: People seriously underestimate how terrifying running into a moose is
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: when you're not in a vehicle and you're just in
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: a trail because they're very territorial. They will huff and puff.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: They will stomp their feet. They have horns that are
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: longer than I am tall. It's a terrifying experience. I've
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: been there.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: That see, yeah. I, as somebody from Canada, I knew
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: you would, you would understand that.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Demon deer is what they should have been called or something.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's like geese, right? Like Canadian geese. Like they, they, they, I've.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Heard they're giant dickheads, but I have not come in
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: contact with them.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They're the, it has the silly name, like goose, like, Oh,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: who's scared of a goose. Right. But these things are vicious.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: They come at you. Like they try to nip at you.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: They they're mean, they're nasty. Yeah, it's, who names these creatures, man?
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: They need more serious names because you can't get, it's
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: hard to portray these being terrifying animals when it's called
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: a goose or a moose. You know, it sounds like
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: it's a toddler nursery rhyme, essentially.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: It's true, yeah. My sister-in-law is, shout out Jackie, is
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: not a fan of Canadian geese whatsoever. And she, yeah,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: she also very much does not like that name either.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: That's very fair.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: We have a wrestler that goes by the Canadian Goose
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: around here, actually. Quite the interesting character.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love that. Okay. I'm going to check this
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: person out. Well, so, I mean, you've touched on it
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: multiple times earlier, and then we brought up LeBron James.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: And I want to talk about recovery because that man
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: has infested, from what I heard, like at least a
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: million dollars a year going up until I think he
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: just decided to own his own recovery company. And so, like,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: they have just been making– gangbuster money after that because
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: you like yes you obviously want to work out you
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: want to stretch you want to do the warm-ups everything
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: leading up to it but then afterwards you're not just
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: done you've got to then recover because of the fact
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: that you just put your body through this incredible like
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: we'll just let's put LeBron James on there that that
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: long running up and down a hard court like that's
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: not good on your body whatsoever let alone being a
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: So what kind of recovery looks like for you? And
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: then when you are also training people, how do you
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: kind of guide them into the recovery aspect?
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, recovery. I, again, coming back to the nutrition side
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: of things, one of your best recovery programs is what
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: you put into your body and the nutrients that you do,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: because that's what your body body is running off of.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: So First and foremost, that's one of the big ones.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Prioritizing sleep. It's very difficult for professional wrestlers in Canada
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: to get a lot of sleep if you're working in
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: different cities. The next biggest city to me is three
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: hours away. The second biggest is five hours away. So
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: doing that in a one day drive out, drive back,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: you don't get a lot of sleep. So it's like
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: you really got to prioritize your sleep on the days
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: that you're not doing that. Um, sleep, it might be
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: one of the most underrated recovery topics ever, ever. And, uh, it,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: people want to spend millions of dollars, like you said,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: on things like cryotherapy and these fancy boots and these
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: fancy rollers and all of this, uh, other like heat
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: wave there, uh, red light therapy and everything. And there
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: might be some validity to it, but I would say
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: it's probably more on the percentages. If you really want
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: to get recovered, sleep, sleep and eat well. Those are
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: the two big things that I personally just tell everybody.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: If people are looking for different recovery strategies, making sure
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: that they're doing their mobility work is a big one
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: as well. A lot of times if we have tight
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: or sore muscles, it's a little bit more of those
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: muscles are just either being trained to be overly stressed
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: or or they're under-muscled, so they need to either strengthen
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: or relax. And there's different ways to pitch, uh, to
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: pursue both of those. Um, but yeah, I'm not a
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: big fan of like spending a ton of money on, um,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: big fancy recovery items. I think like if you're really hurting,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: go for a massage, go for some, uh, physio work, um,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: do some soft tissue work, uh, through a therapist that way. Uh,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: other than that, get your sleep, eat, eat well, um,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: and just, uh, do your best to keep moving.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: There we go. Well, so since you've been in the industry, what,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: who are some veterans that have kind of helped you
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: out along the way when it comes to wrestling?
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Oh man, there, there's a laundry list of people that
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: have helped me out over the years. Like, uh, initially
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: trained by a guy up here named massive damage. He's
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: had a cup of coffee and a couple of different, uh,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: bigger promotions back in the day. Um, one of the trainers,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Phil Lafon, actually, uh, from all Japan, he was in
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: WWF for a little while. Uh, he was, he was
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: a big influence initially, especially on the wrestling style, but
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: like wrestlers around me, um, would be more specifically, there's
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: a guy that wrestles all across Canada. One of the
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: busier guys around here, uh, Sean Martins. He was a
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: big influence on me right off the hop. He gave
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: me a lot of opportunities and allowed me to hop
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: in the car with him a couple times, which was
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: super awesome. Him and Jude Dawkins, a guy that goes
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: by the name The Cheetah Bear, up in this area.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Guys like Harlan Abbott, who's done some work for GCW.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Michael Richard Blaze is another guy who's done some work
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: for GCW. He was an extra talent for WWE. Um,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: those are guys that have really helped me in the
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: local scene, but, uh, some of the guys like the,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: it's funny because a lot of the people that I
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: look as mentors are also my peers, um, because we
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: do a lot of this stuff together. So we, we've
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: just kind of helped each other grow. So a guy
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: like TY Jackson, uh, up here, super, I recommend everybody
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: go check him out. Um, he's just so phenomenal what
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: he does. I'm such a fan of his. In my
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: real life, in wrestling, I hate him, but that's the
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: difference between the two. I would say he's helped me
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: out a ton with some different ideas and just to
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: bounce ideas off of and just even to bring myself
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: back down to earth if I'm overly mad about something
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: or thinking too much about one another thing. Another guy,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Mitch Clark, was a big one. He was a former
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: UFC fighter turned professional wrestler. Yeah, there's just so many
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: people that I could list off as, but I think
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: that's a good amount of Edmonton-based wrestlers for people that
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: don't know anything about Edmonton wrestling to look up.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: That's why I love talking to so many people from
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Canada when it comes to wrestling because, again, there's so
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: many different pockets of the country that people don't, unfortunately...
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: get a lot of exposure to, especially obviously here in America,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: even though like we were talking about earlier, like wrestling
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: is literally within your fingertip of anywhere. So you could
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: find just Google Edmonton wrestling companies and you just start
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: pulling stuff up on YouTube or Instagram or whatever it is.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: So like, I think, you know, as much as we love,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: you know, the Maple Leaf stuff or like the major
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: stuff where you get a kind of a taste of
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of different aspects when it comes to Canada, uh,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: there are so many small pockets that you were, we're
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: just not getting any, uh, exposure to.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And that's probably the same as the U S
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: but I find in Canada, at least like, uh, one
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: thing that the U S has, uh, over us is
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: that they can come into Canada for free.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No touch on this because I love talking to
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Canadian wrestlers about this, please.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, like American wrestlers, they can come in that, uh,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: I believe there's a visa that you can get where, uh,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: if you're a performer or a performing challenge, you can
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: come in, work, it's no big deal. For us to
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: go to the U.S., there are a lot of hoops.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: It's very expensive and very difficult to do. Yeah, so
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: that part of it is kind of cut off for
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of us, at least. Now, some people will
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: have dual citizenship, which is super nice. Some people will
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: have a wrestling promotion kind of put out for them
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: and kind of help them get that worker's visa. But
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: a lot of us don't. So we're kind of stuck,
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: not stuck in Canada, but... because there's so much to
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: do in Canada, but, uh, but Americans have so much
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: more readily available to them. So, uh, like I mentioned
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: for me to go to, uh, Saskatoon, which is right
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: beside us, it takes us five hours to get to
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Saskatoon from Edmonton. You do your two or you do, uh,
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: you're at the venue for probably, let's say four hours,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: maybe five on a long night. you turn around and
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: you drive home. So you're getting home at about 3 a.m.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: and you've been to one place. The next closest place
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: to that would be Regina, which is another four or
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: five hours away. So it's like Canada is very vast.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: So it's very big. So it's like when somebody is in,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: let's say the New York area, they can go to
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: all of these places in a weekend. Very easily. They
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: can do like three or four shows a day if
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: they have the right weekend. Um, whereas we are like, well,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: we get to be in Calgary one day and then
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: we got to come back to Edmonton and then we
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: got to go to Saskatoon. So you're not sleeping. You're,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: you're not making a ton of money because it's the independence. Um,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: so it, it really shows the, uh, the motivation level
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: for a lot of Canadian wrestlers. But, um, it's funny
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: because even though the country is so vast and there's
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: so many wrestlers and so many different promotions, it's funny
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: how small of a world it really is because you
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: meet somebody on the road in one place and then
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: you bump into them again in another place. And you know,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: it's just such a community that comes together and there's
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: just so many great talents up here as well. I'm
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: sure it's the same as the U S where it's like,
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: there's so many good people on a local independent scene
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: that are just waiting for that spotlight to shine on them.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: I feel the same about, uh, Specifically here in Alberta, where,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: you know, sometimes it can be a little bit hard
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: to get a breakout situation, right? Despite having such a
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: huge wrestling lineage. I feel like Alberta wrestling is just
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: kind of on another level right now. Like BC gets
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: a lot of attention. Ontario gets a lot of attention.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: But I think Alberta definitely deserves a little bit more
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: of a spotlight there. But that's bias. That's where I am. So....
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're seeing it on a regular basis. So I
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: completely understand. I feel the same way about people come
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: down here to Texas. So I work in Arkansas monthly
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: and a lot of those wrestlers will come down to
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Texas and be like, wow, that crowd is so much
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: harder to work for. I'm like, yeah, you got to
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: earn it down here. Arkansas is so much easier.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: It's funny how we get into our routines in front
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: of people that we know or people that know us.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: So then when you get into a new market and
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: you're with some different people, that is one of the
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: benefits of working in such a vast country. There's a
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: lot of little cities that you can visit and everyone's
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: a little bit different. Some of them will be with
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: you the entire time. Some of them will be pulling
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: your teeth to get any type of reaction from them.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Some people like the comedy stuff. Some people like pro wrestling.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Some people like hardcore stuff. Some people like your average
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: TV match or Gaga match, right? So it's so interesting
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: when it comes to the performing art of professional wrestling
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: in terms of like what people actually are looking for.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Because it's a variety show, right? You get a little
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: bit of everything and you get little tasters of each
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: taste of ice cream and you get to figure out
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: which flavor is your favorite. Exactly.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: You know, I always love the phrase that wrestling needs
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: to be a buffet. You need a little bit of everything.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I totally agree with that. And I think if,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: you know, it's something that I've seen many times, but
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: if everybody's trying to be the five-star match on the show,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: no one's going to be a five-star match because it
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter anymore. So you got to have a little
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: bit of interchanging parts. Exactly.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, so you touched on it that, you know, Obviously,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: show days can be four or five hours, sometimes longer,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: depending on what's going on. What are some standards you
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: always have in your bag?
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Some what, sir?
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: What are some standards you always have in your bag?
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: I pack pretty light, to be honest. I make sure
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: I have my gear. I make sure I have my
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: resistance bands so I can get a nice little pump
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: on before the show. I try to bring a decent
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: amount of my own food so I don't end up
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: having to eat too much of the venue food or
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: too much takeout food. And really, that's it. I'm not
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: the guy to bring like a Switch or a Game
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Boy to date myself on that one with me anywhere.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: It's usually just going to be chatting with the guys
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: I'm with, try to just network, connect, try to make
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: the best match possible. And yeah, just try to just
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Try to be present. I find myself, it's funny because
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: sometimes you just need that time away to disconnect from
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: your phone. And when I'm in the backstage wrestling area,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: I find myself more connected with people and in the
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: moment than, than my day-to-day life. Sometimes I'll just be
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: at home. Two hours will go by and I had
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: done nothing because I just scrolled on social media for
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: that full two hours. Right. Where it's like, if you're
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: backstage at a wrestling show, there's just so much going on.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: And not only that, once I'm done, I can watch
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: everybody else's matches. I get to enjoy a little bit
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: of wrestling. I might be able to give people a
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: little bit of advice based off of my experiences. Or
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: I might be able to take some ideas that somebody
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: might have done in their match and find a way
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: to make it my own, essentially. Uh, or, or go
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: and chat with them afterwards and be like, why did
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: you do this? So I get a better understanding. So, uh, when,
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: when I'm at a show, I'm usually in like pretty
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: game mode. I like to, I like to watch the show.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: I like to talk to people. I just like to
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: be in the wrestling business.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Because you also, you can tell it, especially if you're
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: performing later. what is and what isn't working. So that way,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: maybe you're putting the match together and you're like, oh, well,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I was going to do that. But now that they've
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: started doing that and it's not working, so we're definitely
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: not going to do that.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's happened many a times where it's like, oh,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: that's what we were planning on doing and you just
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: did it. And okay, back to the drawing board. What
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: can we do instead?
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Yes, because it's all improv and you just got
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: to figure out what the crowd is and is not
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: into that night.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: You know, and that's one of the best parts. Like, again,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: I've been doing this for eight years now And, you know,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: initially when I first got into it, a lot of
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: it was we would put the match together at the
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: training school and then we would just go do the match. Right.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: So you would know what you're doing. You feel comfortable
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: and you're going to be safe. But as I'm getting
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: longer in my career, it is a little bit more
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: fun to leave a little bit more of those blank
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: spots so we can kind of play around a little bit.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: see what works, see what doesn't work. It's kind of
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: fun when things kind of hit the fan during a
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: match and, and, you know, something doesn't go the way
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: that we thought. So we have to pivot. That's kind
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: of fun to me now because it just shows like,
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: it just adds an extra element of, of not risk
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: or danger or anything like that. That would be the
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: wrong words, but it just adds that extra element of fun,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: I guess, where it's just like, okay, you got to
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: think on your feet and you got to make this work.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: And it might not work the best, but at least
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: you try and you have the confidence to do it.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: So it's fun when you can just listen to the crowd,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: interact with them, give them a little bit of what
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: they want, give them a little bit of what you
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: think that they want and find that nice blend in
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: the middle.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. And yeah, they'll tell you immediately whether they
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: do or do not want it. So you'll find out.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Some places more so than others. Some places will let
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: you know as soon as you walk out the curtain
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: if they like you or not.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Well, so if people have never
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: seen you wrestle, what are three matches they should go
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: out of their way to watch?
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, God. That's a great question. I would say I
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: had a match with T.Y. Jackson at LPW very recently.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Love Pro Wrestling. It's a local company that I'm super
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: proud of and I think was a very good intro
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: match against That people could get into. Oh. I'm trying
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: to think of matches that are actually available for people
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: to watch as well.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Because not everything makes it onto the YouTubes, unfortunately. In
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: this day and age, which is absolutely insane.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: It really is. And I really wish that... I'm just
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: going to put some promoters on the hot seat. I
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: think that you need to provide that more for, obviously, yourself,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: your brand, but also the wrestlers that you're having on
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: your show. Put that content out there so that they
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: can Promote you. You can promote them. Like it's obviously
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: a back and forth situation, but also so that people
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: can go back and say, hey, this was a great
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: match and this is where you can go watch it.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Well, even I know some promotions that will put out
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: the matches on YouTube, but they'll be private or hidden. Right.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: And it's just like, make those public. Just make a thumbnail,
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: send it out there. Just have it out there, put
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: out content. Even wrestlers, like it frustrates me that some
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: people will have the entire match on their phone and
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: they won't put out the entire match they just clip
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: it it's like put out the entire match put out
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: content guys we're living in the digital age just have
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: it out there But to answer your question, I think
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: the other two matches that I can just at least
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: think of off the top of my head, one would
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: be against Michael Richard Blaze at Love Pro Wrestling as well.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: And then another one against Harlan Abbott at Real Canadian Wrestling.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: And both of those are a little bit older, but
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: they were just fun matches. And they show a lot
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: of the personalities that I've had both in the past
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: and kind of where I've developed towards. Um, you know, recently,
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: most of my recent matches I've found are a lot
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: more story driven, which is something that I really like.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: I like the story driven. I'm just trying to, uh,
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: we're in love wrestling right now. We're really trying to
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: drive a big storyline. We're coming to this crescendo here soon.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: And it's been so much fun. Like, uh, again, people
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: can have their five-star matches. If I can make a
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: story that some people are like invested in and want
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: to see, that's really what I'm trying to do here.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: I know I'm not the best wrestler in the world.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: I see what a lot of these guys are doing.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: I can't do what Will Ospreay does. I can't do
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: what Kenny Omega, Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, what these guys do.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: But if I can tell a good story for the
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: local fans and just have them remember that in a
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: few years, that's awesome to me.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I love that you, that's what your thought
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: process is too, because like, again, everyone wants to think
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: that they're the best wrestler in the world, but if
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: you can tell that good story, that truly is, you
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: are the best wrestler in the world.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. I think that just comes back to my
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: first memories of wrestling being more the moments that Stone
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Cold made rather than the wrestling matches that Stone Cold had.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, because we all love Stone Cold, but I think
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: his best wrestling was in WCW. So that's just me.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: But he did great WWF stuff and obviously is one
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: of the most successful ever. So, you know, what do
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: I know? what do you know john yeah well so
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: he got dropped on his uh stack of dime that
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: he has calls a neck and so it didn't quite
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: work out afterwards you'd have a much simpler career when
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: it came to pro.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: Wrestling absolutely but there were still some great matches and
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: again his intensity and the storytelling and just how he
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: could just turn it on and and just the crowd
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: reactions like my god when you look back at the
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: attitude era and you watch a stone cold steve austin
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: entrance like if you don't get just a little bit
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: of chills every time that crowd loses their mind, like
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: it's hard to, it's hard to match that or imagine
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: that anybody can ever match that because that was a
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: time where it's like, you have people with the signs,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: you have a flash photography going on. It's going to
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: be very hard to top that. Yeah.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Plus again, it's one of those things that you didn't
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: know everything that was going on all the time behind
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: the scenes or whatever, or you didn't have all the
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: access to everybody. right at your fingertips. Like Stone Cold
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: came on your TV or if you were lucky enough,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: he was in front of you in the ring because
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: you bought that ticket and you came to see Stone Cold.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: It wasn't one of those things is like, oh, here's
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: a selfie of me at the wrestling event because whatever. Oh,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: Stone Cold is also here. Great, cool. No, like you
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: went to go see Stone Cold and once that glass broke, again,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: instant chills. You knew people were going to just get
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: so vocal real quick. Yeah.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's just fun. And it's like, if you're not
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: striving to have some sort of crowd reaction like that,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: like that, that's the goal, right? It's like, you want
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: to have the crowd react in such a visceral way.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: unstoppable way whenever you're out there, whether you're performing in
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: front of the 12 people at the agriculture fair or,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: you know, 2000 people in, in an arena, right? Whatever, wherever,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: wherever you're at, I'm sure that's kind of like that.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: That's in my opinion, what should be the goal.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. That guttural reaction. That's what you want. So
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: I have a segment on show. I call it the
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: five count. It's just five random questions. Number one, who
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: was your first concert?
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: My first concert. Now, actually, I'm going to be interested
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: if you know this group, not a band, but I
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: guess a rap group named Swollen Members. Have you ever
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: heard of them?
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Swollen Members?
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're a Canadian rap group. And yeah, the name
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: itself just stands out.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: Without a doubt.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Pretty great. Um, if you haven't listened to them, go
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: ahead and listen to them. They had, uh, some very,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: very popular songs here in Canada, at least with, uh,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: another artist named Nelly Furtado, uh, fuel injected. What was it?
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Bring it home. Breathe was another one. Uh, but yeah,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: they were my very first concert in a city outside
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: of white horse four hours away. Again, Canada is very large.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Um, called Watson Lake. They, they were up there randomly.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: This was at their peak of their, uh, their, uh,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: They're run, I guess, in Canadian hip-hop. And they came
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: to our lovely little territory, and it was so much fun.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: So I'm looking them up on Spotify. They are still
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: putting music out to this day.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of my entrance songs is actually
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: one of their songs because of that.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: Which one?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: It is... Oh, what's it called? Let me pull that up,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: and I'll get back to you on that. Okay.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Number two... Oh, if you owned a liquor company, brewery, winery,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: coffee shop, or dispensary, which one would you own and
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: what would the name be?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, so if I was to own a liquor store.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a liquor company, a brewery, a winery, a coffee shop,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: or a dispensary, which one would you own and what
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: would the name be?
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Probably a brewery.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a brewery. I think that would be fun. Who
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to own like a bar brewery kind of deal?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: And it would probably be called Kings.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Hey, there you go.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: Sorry, the entrance song is called Insulated.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Insulated.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: By Swollen Members.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: And if you're looking for another absolute banger, check out
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: Kiss from a Rose by Wake Me. That is my
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: other entrance song. Guess which one is the good guy
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: or guess which one is the bad guy when you
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: listen to those.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, yeah, this is going to be fun. uh
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: number three if you could do a ted talk on
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: anything what would it be outside of personal training or pro.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: Wrestling if it wasn't those two yes um probably men's
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: uh men's mental health if that counts there i think
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: that's a big one um i could also do a
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: ted talk on like movies or sports or fantasy sports
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: specifically fantasy football yeah, I'd probably say men's mental health
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: would probably be the most beneficial one. Okay.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. I'm curious about fantasy football. Is this American football?
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Is this soccer or is it Canadian football?
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: Sorry. Sorry. I am one of the, the worst Canadians
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: out there. I don't like the CFL. I'm not a
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: big fan of three down system. I like me the
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: four down. I like me a little bit of a
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: running game and fantasy football in the NFL is just
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: so addicting. It's so much fun and it's so cool.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, ESPN has their own show for it too.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: It's super nice because as a Canadian, I have no
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: real emotional attachment to a lot of these football teams
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: down in the States. So I actually cheer for the
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Texans just because they came into the league when I
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: first discovered football. So they just kind of became my guys.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: Gotcha.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: But then, yeah, fantasy football, again, is just kind of
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: led me down different avenues. So now I get to
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: cheer for multiple people on multiple teams. Until I trade
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: their ass or cut them because they will screw me over.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Because they suck. Because they suck. They're awesome until they suck.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: I love the show The League on FX all about this. Literally,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: it's the best. Especially when they come face-to-face with the
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: players eventually because the show got so big. I was like,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: that's even better.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: Seeing Marshawn Lynch in things just makes my heart happy.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Even today. I love seeing him. He's made more off.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: advertisements and sponsorships than he ever made in the nfl
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: and from what i hear he has not touched any
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: of that money it's crazy good.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: For him man yeah i love to i hate to
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: hear athletes complaining about uh how hard it is to
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: live on 12 million dollars shut the hell up yeah
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: anyways there's a ted talk for you there.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: You go financial advisement there you go uh and number
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: four who or what inspires.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: You oh who or what inspires me you know what
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: honestly this sounds maybe a little selfish and a little silly,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: but I'm always inspired by my younger self. I always
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: look at things in life as if I was four
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: years old, if I was five years old and I
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: could see the future for myself, would I be excited
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: about that? And that's what really inspires me to kind
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: of keep pushing and doing cool things and not getting
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: caught up in just being too old for that.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: I always want to like, I do it for my
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: younger self. So if there's some weird time loop and
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: they get to see what happens, they get excited about it.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah. I, I never say anybody's too
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  Speaker 1: old to do anything because you are, you just haven't
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  Speaker 1: done it yet. That's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: You've never been young or sorry. Uh, you'll never be
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  Speaker 2: younger than you are right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. And number five, what would you tell your 17
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  Speaker 1: year old self?
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  Speaker 2: Oh uh, get into wrestling sooner. It's just like, get
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: into this world, go have fun. Um, stop trying to
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  Speaker 2: be an adult so soon. You know, it's like, enjoy
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: your younger years, be a little bit, uh, what's the word?
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: not immature, but I guess be a little reckless with yourself.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: Take a risk and yeah, pursue your dreams. Like don't
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: let other people's thoughts of you hold you back. Make
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  Speaker 2: sure that you chase what you want. Do it on
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: your own terms. Try your hardest. And if it doesn't work,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: it's okay. You can always be a plumber up in
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  Speaker 2: the Yukon with your dad.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Well, if you want to find out more about you,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: see you live, follow you online, help support you in
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: any way, obviously try to get, you know, hire you
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: as a personal trainer or get any tips whatsoever. How
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: can they do all the things?
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Check out at RK underscore wrestling on Instagram, on, on,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: I guess, X Twitter. I call it Twitter still on Facebook.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: That's going to be your pipeline into everything there. I
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: have a nice little link tree that can give you
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: all the links to the blog. I'm writing about my career,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: old videos that we made called tales from the undercard.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: That's just kind of behind the scene, very being the elites,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: but on the independent circuits and just trying to be
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: funny and then links to the fitness stuff as well.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: So if you want to check out any of my stuff, please.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: Follow me on specifically Instagram. I'm most busy on there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it would be awesome to connect, touch base with some
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: different people and maybe get to expose other people to
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: awesome Canadian wrestling.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: There we go. Yeah, we definitely need to put more
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: showcase on Canadian wrestling and because, hey, more wrestling for
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: everybody is better for everybody.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And again, like I selfishly say this because I'm
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: part of the shows, but You know, there's two companies
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: in particular here in Edmonton, Love Wrestling and Top Talent,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: that are just doing amazing stuff. And if opportunity comes
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: along and you're just bored, YouTube both of those and
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: just enjoy a couple different clips that you might see.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: You might be blown away by some of the young,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: hungry talent that both of these companies have.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: I love it. Rich, thank you so much for your time.
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  Speaker 1: This has been so fun. And again, I can't wait
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: to see not only what your career goes, but what
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Canadian wrestling in general looks like.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me on, John. I appreciate it.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: Maybe one day I'll sneak into Texas and wrestle under
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: a different name.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Hey, we'll make sure that happens. We'll talk about it offline.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: I'll send my gear to you first.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: There we go. Yes, you'll just come on vacation. It's
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: totally okay.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: Exactly, exactly.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Rich, for being on the show. Again,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: get in contact with him. Find out how he can
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: help you with your personal training goals. Reach out to him.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: See where he is wrestling next. Obviously, follow him online.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: Support him in any way, whether it be buying merch,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: following him online, going to see him live, whatever you
• 1:12:11
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• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: country and the world. So while you're doing that, make
• 1:12:16
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• 1:12:18
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• 1:12:24
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• 1:12:27
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• 1:12:28
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• 1:12:32
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• 1:12:34
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• 1:12:36
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• 1:12:37
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• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: make sure to enjoy life, drink local.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: And cheers. Cheers.