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U.S. Rep Kat Cammack Talks About Charlie Kirk · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  Speaker 1: Five passed. The hour eight is the third hour The
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  Speaker 1: Morning Show with Preston's gott In Morning Friends. I'm Preston,
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  Speaker 1: that is Jose. Good to be with you this morning, Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: September sixteenth, and I'm pleased to have back with US
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  Speaker 1: US Congresswoman Kat Camick, Florida's third congressional district, Cat. How
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  Speaker 1: are you?
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, my friend. I wish that you could see
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  Speaker 2: the scene right now because I have the most adorable
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  Speaker 2: one month old a sleep on me right now.
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  Speaker 1: Awe And now see now I feel terrible bringing up
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  Speaker 1: bad subjects.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, no, see, we've got to fix all the
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  Speaker 2: bad stuff so that she and all of the little
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  Speaker 2: youngins can grow up without dealing with this nonsense. So
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  Speaker 2: they make it all worth it.
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  Speaker 1: And Kat, I don't think I'm going too far to
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  Speaker 1: say that the tragedy of last week impacted your daughter,
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  Speaker 1: impacted my kids, impacted my grandchildren, impacted young and old
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  Speaker 1: in this country in a way that we haven't seen
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  Speaker 1: quite honestly since doctor Martin Luther King's assassination. Give me
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Last week obviously, I mean it translates across time. What
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  Speaker 2: happened last week? Truthfully, I knew Charlie. I worked with Charlie.
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  Speaker 2: Charlie was a friend, and it has been really really hard,
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  Speaker 2: no doubt about it. And were minded daily, truthfully, not
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  Speaker 2: just of you know, tribute and individuals and the things that
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  Speaker 2: are happening to honor and remember him. But a good
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  Speaker 2: example just yesterday I went to text my chief of staff,
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  Speaker 2: who's also named Charlie, and as I typed in charlel
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  Speaker 2: you know the chaar, the first name that popped up
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  Speaker 2: in my phone to send the message to was Charlie Kirk,
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  Speaker 2: and his picture popped up, and once again I found
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  Speaker 2: myself rereading all of our messages. And we had just
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  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago been talking about a bill
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  Speaker 2: that we were working on and how we were going
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  Speaker 2: to work to advance it. And it hits home and
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  Speaker 2: the thing that is so incredible to me about his
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  Speaker 2: legacy that of course we all know now, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it goes without saying we have a responsibility to carry
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  Speaker 2: it on. We have to grow the message, grow the movement,
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  Speaker 2: and do more. But the thing that really hit home
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  Speaker 2: to me in the last few days is what he
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  Speaker 2: built and the power of what he did in telling
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  Speaker 2: the truth and if we don't move that forward and
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  Speaker 2: keep the conversation going, then we are doing a disservice
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  Speaker 2: to everything that he tried to do. And it just
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  Speaker 2: goes to show the power of a single person and
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  Speaker 2: what they are capable of. It wasn't just a national movement.
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  Speaker 2: This is a global movement. You're seeing people across the
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  Speaker 2: globe mourning his death, and you think about the organization
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  Speaker 2: turning point. Last week was the turning point for us.
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  Speaker 1: I use the word inflection point. I think that we
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  Speaker 1: have reached one. And that's why you know, as I
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  Speaker 1: look at for example, there are a lot of companies
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  Speaker 1: that are saying, no, we're not going to employ I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we were talking last hour about the Washington Post fired
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  Speaker 1: somebody for their comments about Charlie Kirk, MSNBC fired somebody.
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  Speaker 1: These are organizations that historically don't do that, and I
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  Speaker 1: feel like we've seen something different. This is a different
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  Speaker 1: type of cancelation. This isn't well they think differently than
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  Speaker 1: I do on an issue. We're going to out them. No,
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  Speaker 1: we're outing people that that celebrate the death of another
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  Speaker 1: human being who engaged in civil discourse. That to me
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  Speaker 1: is grounds for termination.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I've seen I've seen some discussion we
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  Speaker 2: say about these people who put these comments out there,
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  Speaker 2: They make these they make these statements, and I think
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  Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, heck even a couple of
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  Speaker 2: weeks ago, it would have been tolerated. We don't have
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  Speaker 2: to tolerate that anymore. Now I am a little bit
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  Speaker 2: on the concern side that we are going to see
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  Speaker 2: more of a censoring as a result of this. We cannot.
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  Speaker 2: We cannot, because this is a it would be a
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  Speaker 2: disservice to what Charlie was trying to do. He thought
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  Speaker 2: for freedom of speech. If we engage in what the
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  Speaker 2: left has done in full blown cancel culture, to the
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  Speaker 2: point of shutting someone down and censoring them, that is
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  Speaker 2: not what he would have wanted. But I have said repeatedly,
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  Speaker 2: we don't have to tolerate these people, and these companies
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  Speaker 2: that are firing these people for what they're saying, they
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  Speaker 2: are not tolerating it either, And so we have to
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  Speaker 2: honor his legacy by engaging in civil discourse, in the dialogue,
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  Speaker 2: in the conversation. Now, quite frankly, they are sinners, savables
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  Speaker 2: and things. And when it comes to the centers of
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  Speaker 2: this discussion, in this moment in time, who are cheering
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  Speaker 2: for the death of someone who they just don't agree
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  Speaker 2: with politically. I don't know if you cannite with the
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  Speaker 2: unite with those people. I mean, I think there's a
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  Speaker 2: mental illness that they have that you just can't fix.
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  Speaker 2: But we have to be better than what they have done.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the overwhelming majority of Americans they find
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  Speaker 2: what they have seen in the last couple of days reprehensible, disgusting,
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  Speaker 2: and they don't want any part of it. So we
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  Speaker 2: could be seeing the final throes of the left as
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  Speaker 2: we know it.
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  Speaker 1: Kat Camick with me, us congressman from Florida's third district
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  Speaker 1: and kind enough to carve out a couple times a
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  Speaker 1: month to talk about things, and right now we're focused
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  Speaker 1: on the aftermath of the assassination of Charlie Kirk. You
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  Speaker 1: mentioned the Democrat Party. I think it's interesting because this
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  Speaker 1: is once again showing the growing divide between old school
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  Speaker 1: rational liberals Democrats and the new modern extremist, illiberal, violent
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  Speaker 1: side of the party. What's your hunch. What are people
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  Speaker 1: telling you that are Democrats? Because I know I know
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  Speaker 1: you guys, you are able to talk and converse. And
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's not for publication in terms of who's saying what,
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  Speaker 1: but Kat, what are democrats on the other side of
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  Speaker 1: the aisle saying to you in the wake of Charlie's killing.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you exactly what the scene was. Yesterday we
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  Speaker 2: held a vigil for Charlie inside the Capitol, inside Statuary Hall,
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  Speaker 2: and there was a gathering point where we all come together,
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  Speaker 2: and then we were walking into Statuary Hall. Only three
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  Speaker 2: Democrats showed up. Three virtually every Republican I was there,
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  Speaker 2: but I sat talking to two of the Democrats because
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  Speaker 2: I was actually pretty appalled that Moore had not shown up.
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  Speaker 2: And one is actually someone who I've worked with quite
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  Speaker 2: a bit on healthcare issues, and it was Debbie Dingle
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  Speaker 2: from Michigan. And I walked up to her and I said, Debbie,
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you being here. Thank you. And she said,
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  Speaker 2: what has happened and where we are at is the
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  Speaker 2: most horrible thing, and we have to It is so
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  Speaker 2: important that we're here, and she said, I'm disappointed that
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  Speaker 2: more aren't. And I got into an elevator about an
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  Speaker 2: hour later after votes, and I'll tell you there was
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  Speaker 2: some Democrats in the elevator, and they were making comments
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  Speaker 2: that were absolutely horrible, talking about how they couldn't believe
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  Speaker 2: that the you know, the the vigils, the outpouring, Who
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  Speaker 2: was this guy if people really knew who he was?
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  Speaker 2: And that just I'm telling you there is something broken
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  Speaker 2: with the regressive left. They are not progressive, they are
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  Speaker 2: the regressive left. And there's something that is mentally broken
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  Speaker 2: with these people where they think that it's okay to
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  Speaker 2: cheer for the death of a political opponent who didn't
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  Speaker 2: do anything wrong. He literally was telling the truth and
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  Speaker 2: engaging in the debate that we all claim to support
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  Speaker 2: right and for them, they don't want the debate. They
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  Speaker 2: just want you to shut up. That's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: And because he spoke out, because he was effective, they
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  Speaker 2: wanted to silence him. I don't know where we went
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  Speaker 2: wrong where people in this country can justify this type
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  Speaker 2: of political violence. It's never okay on any side. But
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  Speaker 2: the fact that you have sitting members of Congress who
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  Speaker 2: say these discussing things is horrible. The people who have
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  Speaker 2: made a horrible comments, Yeah, your employer should know what
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  Speaker 2: you're about, and I think you should be held accountable
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  Speaker 2: for that. When I had many and many death threats
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  Speaker 2: against me. Their employers were absolutely finding out what they
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  Speaker 2: were doing, and many people lost their jobs as a result.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's that personal responsibility that has been lost
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  Speaker 2: in this country and the fact that behind a keyboard
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  Speaker 2: you feel emboldened to say whatever the heck you want.
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  Speaker 2: I think that we have people now who are saying, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to call you on it. Because the right
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  Speaker 2: we've always played nice, and I think that we've hit
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  Speaker 2: that moment where we're not going to play nice anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Congresswoman, it almost seems insensitive to say, Okay, what does
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  Speaker 1: Congress do next? Because this is such a unique time,
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  Speaker 1: So how do you proceed with the business of running
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  Speaker 1: the country and not allowing what happened to Charlie to
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  Speaker 1: do anything but galvanize and inspire.
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  Speaker 2: So a couple of things on that one. Again, as
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  Speaker 2: more is uncovered, we know that he had a roommate
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  Speaker 2: romantic relationship with an individual who was trans Once again,
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  Speaker 2: you're seeing where someone who has been on the hormone therapies,
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  Speaker 2: who has been in that space, has been a part
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  Speaker 2: of a massive, horrible situation. Just like we've seen shooters
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  Speaker 2: in the last couple of months who have identified as
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  Speaker 2: trans we're now seeing the dark side of it, and
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  Speaker 2: we have been fighting in Congress to actually one protect
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  Speaker 2: minors so that people can't do the experimental surgeries and
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  Speaker 2: the drugs on them. Certainly taxpayers shouldn't be funding it
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  Speaker 2: and so making it one prohibiting it. But then two,
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  Speaker 2: also you have the graduate medical education where these major
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  Speaker 2: hospitals they it's a source of funding for them. So
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  Speaker 2: we're cutting off funding. That is the first thing. The
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  Speaker 2: second thing is and you and I were just talking
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  Speaker 2: a little bit in the break about how there could
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  Speaker 2: be more in this effort that should be uncovered. I
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  Speaker 2: absolutely think so no one gets radicalized to this point
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  Speaker 2: without anyone knowing. And I talked about this on the
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  Speaker 2: media last week. We have an epidemic of loneliness and isolation, yes,
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  Speaker 2: but people turn towards social media, and in this case,
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  Speaker 2: this kid was on discord and so we're looking into
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  Speaker 2: what was said, knew and where there were cracks. Right.
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  Speaker 2: It also speaks to the fact that there is a
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  Speaker 2: security problem. Myself and you know this, fifty three credible
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  Speaker 2: death threats over the last couple of months. We've been
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  Speaker 2: getting some very ominous phone calls here in the last
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  Speaker 2: twenty four hours. I think this is the wake up call.
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  Speaker 2: And I've heard my colleagues say it before. It's well
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  Speaker 2: established that we believe that one of us has to
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  Speaker 2: get shot and killed before there would be action taken
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  Speaker 2: to protect members and their families. You look at Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 2: He leaves behind a young wife, two very very young children.
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  Speaker 2: We have to do better in terms of the realities
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  Speaker 2: of where we are most members at this point, no
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  Speaker 2: open air events. Security is tightening up, But in the
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  Speaker 2: last twenty four hours, I've been getting calls from people
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  Speaker 2: saying constituents saying we don't want more security around members,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a little bit of a chilling effect. The
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  Speaker 2: situational ethics that people subscribe to now is very concerning,
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  Speaker 2: particularly for my colleagues on the left, where they're like, well,
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  Speaker 2: in this case, it was a Republican who was shot
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  Speaker 2: and killed, so it's okay that we don't have an
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  Speaker 2: outrageous response, but when it happens to the other side,
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  Speaker 2: it's a totally different ballgame.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we need it.
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  Speaker 2: Blows my mind. So right now Congress is looking at
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  Speaker 2: those three big things right, the cracks in the communication,
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  Speaker 2: the trans issue where miners have been basically experimented on,
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  Speaker 2: which I think years from how people will look back
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  Speaker 2: and say, what in the heck were people doing? How
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  Speaker 2: did they allow that to happen? And then of course
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  Speaker 2: I think it's going to radically change how government operates.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're going to see a much tighter security
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  Speaker 2: structure around members, their families, their staff, their teams. It's
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  Speaker 2: shaken everybody to their core, to the point where a
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  Speaker 2: lot of members saying, you know what I'm done. You
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  Speaker 2: have staff members who are saying, you know what I
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  Speaker 2: signed up to help people and think they're thinking whether
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  Speaker 2: or not they should be in public service or not.
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  Speaker 2: We have to do better as a society. Charlie was
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  Speaker 2: a builder. He wasn't a wrecker. We all need to
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  Speaker 2: be builders in our own way in supporting our community
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  Speaker 2: and getting back out there and fighting for our community,
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  Speaker 2: for our republic. This is this is the turning point.
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  Speaker 2: This is the turning point.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe take all of the things that Charlie espoused that
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  Speaker 1: are legislative in nature, things that Congress ought to be
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  Speaker 1: doing or thinking. That's so many millions of young people
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  Speaker 1: and now not just young people people are hearing about.
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  Speaker 1: How about we take advantage of this and bundle into
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  Speaker 1: one big, beautiful Wait no, let's call it something else
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  Speaker 1: and call it the Charlie Kirk Bill, and let's put
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  Speaker 1: some sweeping legislation together. Bundle it. And because kids are
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  Speaker 1: going to identify with whatever that legislation is, because it's
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  Speaker 1: stuff Charlie talked about. I think there's I think there's
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  Speaker 1: something you can do.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a great ideas, that's a beautiful idea.
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  Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk is a hero. And uh and I'm grateful
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  Speaker 1: that he was a friend of yours.
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  Speaker 2: Kat.
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  Speaker 1: That makes my heart happy. Stand By Cat camick Us,
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  Speaker 1: congresswoman from Florida's third District, my guest here on the
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  Speaker 1: Morning Show.