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Capítulo 159: Mujeres Difíciles with iLe · Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela]

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Speaker 1: Look Radio, we're joined by Puerto Rican singer Ele. She
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Speaker 1: is a singer, composer, and vocalist. She was a member
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Speaker 1: of Gare before launching her solo career. Today we're going
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Speaker 1: to be talking to her about her third album and
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Speaker 1: everything that she's been up to. We've actually interviewed Ela
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Speaker 1: once before, a few episodes back on the Patreon on
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Speaker 1: the Patreon, so it's good to have around the main feed. Okay, So,
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Speaker 1: without further ado, we are so excited to have the
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Speaker 1: one and only Ela in the studio with us today. BNA, Welcome,
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Speaker 1: Who are you good? We're so good. We're so happy
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Speaker 1: to see you, to meet you. Yeah. Yeah, we interviewed
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Speaker 1: you a couple of years ago. I interviewed you over zoom,
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Speaker 1: so it's nice to meet you in person. We're here
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Speaker 1: in studio in La. Did you just get in from Chicago?
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Speaker 1: You were just traveling yeah, yeah, yeah, right yesterday, and
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Speaker 1: I'm super excited for the show tomorrow where are you
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Speaker 1: performing and the Miracle Theater in Inglewood, So it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be fun. Ye, tell us about this tour. It has
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Speaker 1: been great so far. I mean the only thing has
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Speaker 1: been the cold, and for us Puerto Ricans, like any
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Speaker 1: cold is too cold. So it's fun because a lot
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Speaker 1: of people say to us, no, like this is this
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Speaker 1: is okay, this is not so cool, and we're like
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Speaker 1: not so cool, like we're freezing. So that's that has
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Speaker 1: been the only weird part. But the rest has been great,
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Speaker 1: like I think at the same time, in the shows
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Speaker 1: we have been like warming up with the audience. So
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Speaker 1: it has been a lot of fun. Like I'm enjoying everything.
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Speaker 1: I love that, And you know, I want we want
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Speaker 1: to talk to you today about your new music video,
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Speaker 1: Argo Bonito featuring Evie Queen. So tell us more about
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Speaker 1: working on this song. Working with Evie, it's such a
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Speaker 1: feminist anthem and I think speaks true to your work also,
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Speaker 1: so tell us more about it. Well, this song, I
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Speaker 1: think it always started as a combative song, so I
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Speaker 1: was playing around with it, you know, actually kind of
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Speaker 1: letting my feelings out because I think it comes from
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Speaker 1: a frustration that it sometimes happened to me when when
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Speaker 1: I feel that we try to manifest a lot of
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Speaker 1: things in our fight as women and send a message
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Speaker 1: that we want to send and demand, you know, justice
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Speaker 1: for us and also our rights that we haven't received,
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Speaker 1: but correspond to us, and it frustrates me how that
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Speaker 1: it becomes something you know, like you feel the people
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Speaker 1: attacking you for just doing that, you know, and it's
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Speaker 1: always like a critique of everything that we do. Like
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Speaker 1: you feel that we are progressing in some things, but
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Speaker 1: at the same time you feel that a lot of
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Speaker 1: people it's want to take you back to you know,
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Speaker 1: to the eighteen hundreds. So it's it's scary and it's frustrating.
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Speaker 1: But I wanted this song to have, you know, from
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Speaker 1: that energy when it transforms in courage and enrage and
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Speaker 1: in confronting that, you know that, So from I didn't
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Speaker 1: want it to leave it in the problem, you know,
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Speaker 1: more more in the energy that I mean, this is
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Speaker 1: something that we're kind of used to. But even if
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Speaker 1: it frustrates us, make us you know, a little down,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't stop us from what we really want to do.
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Speaker 1: So this song is about that and obviously, having Evie
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Speaker 1: what she represents as a woman in the reggaeton genre
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Speaker 1: in her times, that must have been super tough. So
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Speaker 1: I feel that her energy, her voice was super important
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Speaker 1: and I feel super grateful to work with her. Is
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Speaker 1: this the first time that you've worked with Ivie Queen? Yeah? Yeah.
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Speaker 1: How did it come about that you two got to
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Speaker 1: work on the song together? Well, it was actually and
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Speaker 1: my brother Gabriel, he suggested me to do like it was.
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Speaker 1: He said to me, like, it would be cool, like
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Speaker 1: if you did something with Evie, and I said, wow,
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Speaker 1: yeah it would. I was already like starting with this song,
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Speaker 1: but I wanted to feel, you know, to see first
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Speaker 1: if I could imagine her in this song, like because
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Speaker 1: I don't want to force things. I don't want to
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Speaker 1: say oh yeah, like and just push her in the
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Speaker 1: song that I don't think she could fit. But then
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Speaker 1: I as I started working on it, I started imagining
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Speaker 1: her voice in it and it suddenly made sense. And
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Speaker 1: then I wrote to her on Instagram and she was
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Speaker 1: very intrigued. So it was it was good to feel
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Speaker 1: her like that. And then when I sent her the song,
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Speaker 1: I already wrote like my part and I sent her
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Speaker 1: with her part like in blank to leave her to
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Speaker 1: write her stuff, and she and loved it. She said
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Speaker 1: that she had the chorus in her head all the time,
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Speaker 1: so it was super like exciting to see her like that.
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Speaker 1: And she said yes and she sent her part and
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Speaker 1: it was fired. So I was super excited. We had
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Speaker 1: like a very good communication in the phone, but we
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Speaker 1: actually met in person during the filming of the video.
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Speaker 1: I love that. I want to ask you more about
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Speaker 1: the video. But before that, one of my favorite lines
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Speaker 1: in the song is protiva so good, So tell me
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Speaker 1: more about writing this line. I mean, the song is
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Speaker 1: so beautiful, so powerful, but tell me more about the
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Speaker 1: energy behind the song. Yeah, well, I think it's it's um,
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Speaker 1: it's weird for me, but I try to understand that
7:38
Speaker 1: big changes take a lot of time. So and I know,
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Speaker 1: I recognize that nowadays we have accomplished a lot, but
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Speaker 1: there's still a lot more left to work on. So
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Speaker 1: it's crazy for me to feel that something so basic
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Speaker 1: as empathy, solidarity respect two women. You know, it's something
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Speaker 1: so difficult for many people to understand. And I think
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Speaker 1: that's actually what's about the feminist movement. It's just about
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Speaker 1: that you know, it's not it's much simpler than people think,
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Speaker 1: but we make it more complex because we're not willing
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Speaker 1: to understand that. And I feel that in Puerto Rico
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Speaker 1: as well as in the rest of the world. It's
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Speaker 1: it's something that is it's very difficult. Like you, it's
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Speaker 1: something that is so subtle as a friends conversation, but
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Speaker 1: and Alsoso in another level, like they're killing a lot
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Speaker 1: of women, and and it's it's super important to acknowledge
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Speaker 1: that any violence, any abuse, no matter how small or
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Speaker 1: big we think it is like, it is still abuse
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Speaker 1: and it's still violent. So we need to acknowledge that
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Speaker 1: every time that we can, and especially in the songs
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Speaker 1: that I work, and I think that I try to
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Speaker 1: pay more attention on the subtleties, on the ones that
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Speaker 1: get more normalized in our society. So these songs include
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Speaker 1: it includes that, you know, as a part of the
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Speaker 1: of the message. But obviously it's more like a march.
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Speaker 1: It's more you know, combative, and it's stronger and more powerful.
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Speaker 1: But you know, we're just tired of it, and we
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Speaker 1: don't know how out of control this can get, but
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Speaker 1: it can because we are really tired of many things,
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Speaker 1: and it's just I don't know, Like for me, we
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Speaker 1: have alternatives that can make things flow easier, but if
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Speaker 1: we keep being stopped and you know, in in Pei,
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Speaker 1: you know, then I think anything could happen. So the
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Speaker 1: New York Times called your album Nakarile one of the
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Speaker 1: best albums of twenty twenty two, branking it at number five.
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Speaker 1: Can you tell us about the title of the album
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Speaker 1: and what it means. Nacarile is an expression that we
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Speaker 1: use in Puerto Rico when we want to say no
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Speaker 1: with a lot of attitude, but also it can be
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Speaker 1: you know, it's very determined, so like nacareli is like
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Speaker 1: like super sure that that that no is super sure.
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Speaker 1: So I felt it more like a motivation for the
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Speaker 1: energy and the process of making this album. That it
10:23
Speaker 1: was very difficult and I felt very dispersed in the
10:27
Speaker 1: whole process. So it was like a way of you know,
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Speaker 1: transcending everything that I was going through while making the album.
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Speaker 1: And also it can relate to some of the songs
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Speaker 1: in the album as well. Yeah, I mean, and with
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Speaker 1: the music. You have some collaborations on the album, like
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Speaker 1: some of our favorites, um and what's your collaborative process, like, well,
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Speaker 1: I actually learned it with this album. This is my
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Speaker 1: first time collaborating as much. I never expected this album
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Speaker 1: to be so collaborative, but I think it helped me
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Speaker 1: a lot, especially because, like I was saying that, in
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Speaker 1: the process of making it, I felt so different, you know,
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Speaker 1: from the rest of my albums, because I was trying
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Speaker 1: to create like a new way of working that I
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Speaker 1: was not so used to because of the times that
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Speaker 1: we were living, you know. So I at first I
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Speaker 1: was too hard on myself, and then I tried to
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Speaker 1: be less hard on myself. So collaborating made me feel more,
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Speaker 1: you know, accompanied, And it was very nice to explore
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Speaker 1: different voices, different colors, different minds and tried to connect
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Speaker 1: it with what I was wanted to say. So I
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Speaker 1: feel super grateful of everyone that collaborated in this album.
11:52
Speaker 1: And you know, it wasn't something that I thought through
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Speaker 1: a lot. It I was. I just went on with
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Speaker 1: the feeling. So at the end I'm happy with the result. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, so it's so good. Um. And one of
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Speaker 1: the songs that I love from the album Istra And
12:10
Speaker 1: you talk about hi lists or suppose it must, which
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Speaker 1: is something we talk about here at lookata all the
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Speaker 1: time is and the line that I love is no schedule.
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Speaker 1: And so often women are defined as combative or difficult
12:28
Speaker 1: when maybe we're just being ourselves. So how do you
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Speaker 1: think society defines difficult women? And how is this song
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Speaker 1: kind of pushing back on that? Well, I I it's
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Speaker 1: still it is difficult for me to try to understand that,
12:43
Speaker 1: you know, but it happens all the time. Like sometimes
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Speaker 1: I try to make friends or whatever aware of what
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Speaker 1: they're saying and how and their perspective, especially male friends,
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Speaker 1: but sometimes female friends as well, because we are all
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Speaker 1: part of muchismo. We all come from this weird learning
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Speaker 1: that we are on learning in the day by day.
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Speaker 1: So I think that difficult women for society is just
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Speaker 1: women that are not willing to please patriarchy. And for me,
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Speaker 1: that is that does not make us difficult, It's quite
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Speaker 1: the contrary. It makes us free. So why is that
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Speaker 1: a problem? And it makes me wonder a lot of things.
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Speaker 1: And you know, now in March, like why do women
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Speaker 1: have a International Women's Day? Why? I mean, why isn't
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Speaker 1: necessary to have a Male's women that males Males International Day?
13:44
Speaker 1: You know, And it makes you wonder like why is
13:47
Speaker 1: this necessary, like just to give us something to feel
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Speaker 1: proud about, just to you know, like a placevo to
13:54
Speaker 1: make us feel good about ourselves. No, like it's just
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Speaker 1: like if it is something, it's actually reminder of that
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Speaker 1: we are still in an urgent situation that we need
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Speaker 1: to work on as a society and that things are
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Speaker 1: not the way that they should. So for me, super
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Speaker 1: it's it's definitely complex, and I understand it can be
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Speaker 1: intimidating for many people, but at the end, it's just
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out, like why is it so difficult,
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Speaker 1: Why it has been so difficult for us as women
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Speaker 1: to have a place in this world? Why why everything
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Speaker 1: is related, why everything about us is related to men
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Speaker 1: or a part or as if we are an extension
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Speaker 1: of a male. So it's just it's weird for me.
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Speaker 1: And you know, writing these songs makes me get even
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Speaker 1: deeper into these topics, you know, and that song is
14:50
Speaker 1: something as easy as drinking, you know, like we're criticized
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Speaker 1: by drinking, you know, like drinking beer, drinking whatever, Like
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Speaker 1: just women cannot drink, right, And it's and it's it's
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Speaker 1: weird because like we do we can so we are
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Speaker 1: still breaking with things that seem like today it seems
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Speaker 1: like we thought that it was broken like years ago,
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Speaker 1: but you still feel that we are still carrying with
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Speaker 1: that weight and that a lot of people still have
15:25
Speaker 1: a lot of stigma to us about anything that we
15:28
Speaker 1: do or how or everything or what we wear. So
15:31
Speaker 1: it's it's very strange and I think that, yeah, this
15:34
Speaker 1: song is about trait is about that. It's just a
15:38
Speaker 1: free woman, a little making fun of how she is.
15:42
Speaker 1: You know, it's like a satire of how she she's
15:48
Speaker 1: as if she was suffering, but she's actually not. She's
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Speaker 1: super Like that's his problem. I'm okay. Like it's like
15:56
Speaker 1: if he doesn't want me free, or he just wants
16:00
Speaker 1: me with her with his um greter or whatever, then
16:09
Speaker 1: like that's not good for me. So I'm better off alone.
16:14
Speaker 1: I love how feminism and protests definitely show up in
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Speaker 1: your music, and earlier in the interview you brought up,
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Speaker 1: you know, killings of women, and we've covered feminine cdo
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Speaker 1: I'm femicide on this show for many years because it's
16:30
Speaker 1: a big problem not only in Latin America all over
16:33
Speaker 1: the world, but Latin America in particular. There's all these
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Speaker 1: instances of femicide. So I'm wondering, like how you take
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Speaker 1: oppression and social issues and then convert it into lyrics
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Speaker 1: or convert it into a song, and how it inspires
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Speaker 1: the work. Well, it depends like it It's really something
16:51
Speaker 1: that affects me a lot. It's a mixed you know,
16:54
Speaker 1: mixed feelings because sometimes I feel super said and I
16:57
Speaker 1: cry and I need to let it all out. But
17:01
Speaker 1: at the same time, you see other things that make
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Speaker 1: me feel hopeful and and you know, powerful in a way.
17:09
Speaker 1: And in Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico is so small that
17:13
Speaker 1: sometimes we feel that it's not enough, like we're not
17:16
Speaker 1: enough in the streets like always like too small, like
17:21
Speaker 1: and but suddenly you see a video in Mexico with
17:23
Speaker 1: a lot of women in the streets and it's and
17:26
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I think that it would be amazing
17:29
Speaker 1: if we had that. But at the same time, it
17:30
Speaker 1: feels like like sisters, you know, like it's like oh
17:33
Speaker 1: for them, like that's great, like that's what we need.
17:36
Speaker 1: So it's it's mixed feelings because I feel that even
17:41
Speaker 1: though we are from decker countries and the situations might
17:44
Speaker 1: be different at the same time, it comes from the
17:47
Speaker 1: same problem, So I feel that um for me when
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Speaker 1: I write these songs, I sometimes try to feel that
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Speaker 1: any situations, even if I some of them I've been
17:59
Speaker 1: through some of them I haven't, luckily, but it still
18:03
Speaker 1: feels very close by because like I read a news
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Speaker 1: of a woman that got killed, and how can I
18:10
Speaker 1: can I not feel empathy or as if that could
18:14
Speaker 1: be me or someone related to me, or it doesn't
18:16
Speaker 1: matter if I know her or not. It's just like
18:18
Speaker 1: the situation is fucked up, like and and how could
18:22
Speaker 1: this be normal for us? Like we just like like
18:26
Speaker 1: it's it becomes normal for a lot of people. So
18:30
Speaker 1: that's what scares me the most, not only the situation,
18:33
Speaker 1: but that people are like as if nothing happened. So
18:38
Speaker 1: all those feelings like are in me when I'm when
18:42
Speaker 1: I'm writing, and it becomes like a healing process and
18:47
Speaker 1: that I that I go through while I'm writing the song.
18:49
Speaker 1: Sometimes different emotions get by, and I try to go
18:53
Speaker 1: more towards what I want to say exactly, and I
18:58
Speaker 1: try my best that the message is received as clear
19:03
Speaker 1: as possible, because like my intention is that everybody will
19:07
Speaker 1: at least almost everybody can understand it. Yeah, I love
19:12
Speaker 1: that you mentioned, you know, kind of healing through the music, right,
19:15
Speaker 1: And my interpretation of Nakarile is that it's at the
19:19
Speaker 1: crossroads of the personal and the political, And so with that,
19:23
Speaker 1: how do you take care of yourself when making something
19:27
Speaker 1: that's impactful that's also deeply personal. I don't know. I
19:34
Speaker 1: think I feel lucky that I have a lot of
19:37
Speaker 1: people near me. My family is a big family, and
19:40
Speaker 1: I feel that we always talk these things through a lot.
19:44
Speaker 1: Is super interesting because also like my brothers are sisters,
19:49
Speaker 1: are from different generations, so like we speak many things
19:54
Speaker 1: from our own perspectives and we like you know, you know,
19:59
Speaker 1: and our own experiences. So it's it's kind of fun
20:04
Speaker 1: in a way because we learn a lot together. And
20:06
Speaker 1: also my friends, we like it's it's common to have
20:10
Speaker 1: these conversations. So that helps me a lot in the
20:14
Speaker 1: personal area. But I feel that also, you know, making music,
20:23
Speaker 1: like the lyrics can be maybe tougher for me to
20:26
Speaker 1: get into because like as any psychological process, like it's
20:33
Speaker 1: difficult to put words to your feelings, Like sometimes you
20:36
Speaker 1: just don't understand exactly why are you feeling some way
20:40
Speaker 1: or what is it and when you try to describe
20:43
Speaker 1: it and put some words like it's interesting and you
20:46
Speaker 1: get deeper into what the root of your feeling and
20:50
Speaker 1: you understand and it suddenly becomes like a like a cool,
20:56
Speaker 1: blooming process. But then making the music and the sounds,
21:02
Speaker 1: for me, it's like it's another feeling, you know, like
21:06
Speaker 1: it's it's another way of translating those emotions, and it's
21:12
Speaker 1: like it's two different things for me. So I feel
21:15
Speaker 1: that when the lyrics get too tough, I feel that
21:20
Speaker 1: I heal differently in the instrumentation and the sounds. And
21:24
Speaker 1: sometimes it can be like more one note, but sometimes
21:28
Speaker 1: it is a contrast, like sometimes a song can have
21:31
Speaker 1: like a very strong message, but the musicality is the opposite,
21:35
Speaker 1: is calming. So I like I enjoy that. Do you
21:41
Speaker 1: enjoy performing live? You're touring right now, you're doing shows?
21:45
Speaker 1: How is that for you? The touring and the live performance,
21:49
Speaker 1: I do a lot. It's I mean, it's just what
21:52
Speaker 1: happens in the moment. So obviously you think at the time, oh,
21:56
Speaker 1: I could have done this better whatever, But you cannot
21:59
Speaker 1: think that through as much. You know, just maybe maybe
22:02
Speaker 1: next show you just perfection your show A little bit,
22:06
Speaker 1: But I love that it's just about the moment and
22:10
Speaker 1: that energy with the audience that I feel is like
22:13
Speaker 1: a reflection, you know, And I love that, you know,
22:17
Speaker 1: it's just you're doing what you're doing and that the
22:20
Speaker 1: note or everything like just came out how it did
22:23
Speaker 1: and that's how it was supposed to be for a reason,
22:26
Speaker 1: you just But for me, the important thing is to
22:30
Speaker 1: have fun because a lot of technicalities get in your
22:33
Speaker 1: way and you get maybe a little too stressed. But
22:36
Speaker 1: for me, I've learned to just not be too aware
22:42
Speaker 1: of that because like it breaks the moment and it
22:45
Speaker 1: breaks an energy that for me, it's more important. So
22:49
Speaker 1: I try to keep calm and just enjoy the show.
22:53
Speaker 1: So I do love life. Yeah, I love that. And
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Speaker 1: you have a performance here La and Inglewood like you mentioned,
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Speaker 1: um so that's exciting. But I also want to ask
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Speaker 1: you about this album. This your third album, this album, NA,
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Speaker 1: how it differs from the other two if at all.
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Speaker 1: I say that I really learned a lot from this album,
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Speaker 1: so it definitely definitely is different for me because my
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Speaker 1: first album was more um into traditional sounds and it
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Speaker 1: has a lot of orchestra and a lot of musicians,
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Speaker 1: you know, and that's what I wanted what with my
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Speaker 1: first album and then my second album, Alma Lura, was
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Speaker 1: like very rigid and very rhythmic, and that that was
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Speaker 1: my energy. At the time. I was very like angry
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Speaker 1: with many things and it was like very tough, and
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Speaker 1: and then this album well turned out to be during
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Speaker 1: the pandemic, so it was I was felt that I
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Speaker 1: was like kind of flowing, you know, maybe in air
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Speaker 1: or in water, I don't know, but I felt like,
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Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't as myself maybe or maybe I
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Speaker 1: I connected with another part of myself that I didn't
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Speaker 1: explore as much. So I felt in a way like
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Speaker 1: grateful to had that experience and that opportunity because sometimes
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Speaker 1: I aye and I feel that a lot of people
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Speaker 1: tend to ignore some things that maybe we should pay
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Speaker 1: attention to. And I didn't plan to do this with
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Speaker 1: this album, but at the end, like I maybe I
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Speaker 1: had to. So yeah, I feel that I learned something
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Speaker 1: new and I broke with a lot of patterns that
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Speaker 1: I had, and it made me feel freer in the process.
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Speaker 1: Where can our listeners follow you, support your music and
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Speaker 1: just keep up with everything that you're doing well? In Twitter.
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Speaker 1: I um as as the name of my first album
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Speaker 1: in Instagram and also in TikTok as well, and what else.
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Speaker 1: I don't know anymore. Social Yes, stream Nakarile It's so
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