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INTERVIEW: Cenk Uygur on Free Palestine, Netanyahu’s Influence & Who Controls the Media · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The
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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. You all finished or y'all done? Morning, everybody.
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Speaker 2: It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are
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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club. Lawla Rose is here as well. We
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Speaker 2: got a special guest in the building.
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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed.
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Speaker 2: We have Cenk Uygur.
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Speaker 3: That's it, right?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Cenk Uygur. All right, Cenk Uygur. How are you
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Speaker 1: doing this morning, first and foremost? I'm always good. You're
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Speaker 1: always good? Yeah, times are tough, but it can't knock
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Speaker 1: us down.
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Speaker 2: It is tough being in the city this week with
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Speaker 2: everything happening with the U.N. and all the meetings and
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Speaker 2: the president in town. So how are you moving around?
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Speaker 1: Barely. I keep moving hotel to hotel because everything's sold out.
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Speaker 3: So you book yourself in time.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. No guy. There was a million trips. I was
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Speaker 1: supposed to go to Pittsburgh. But, you know, the planes got. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the FAA shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So let's start.
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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, what do you think about the conversations,
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Speaker 2: especially with Mayor Mamdani and Donald Trump that's happening in
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Speaker 2: the city this week?
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Speaker 1: Because there's a lot going on. Yeah. So, hey, I
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Speaker 1: like it. I believe in talking to people. So I
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Speaker 1: talk to the right wing, the left wing, the middle wing,
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Speaker 1: every wing. And that's what I think they should do. And,
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Speaker 1: of course, Mamdani should talk to Trump and Trump should
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Speaker 1: talk to Mamdani. The only people who are complaining are
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Speaker 1: people who are like, oh, Mamdani is Muslim. Did you
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Speaker 1: know that? Yeah, we all know that, Dick. I mean,
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Speaker 1: so what? So what's the, like, I don't get it.
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Speaker 1: But they keep saying it like it's a thing, like, whoa,
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Speaker 1: he's Muslim. So what? So what? Right? So I don't know.
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Speaker 1: And like in the old days, the left didn't want
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Speaker 1: people talking to the right. But I think we're past that.
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Speaker 1: I think like everybody on the left is like, oh,
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Speaker 1: he's talking to Trump. Of course, Trump's the president. It's
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Speaker 1: the right wing that's flipping out.
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Speaker 4: But don't you think it's kind of normalizing something that
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Speaker 4: shouldn't be normalized?
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Speaker 3: By the way, I don't know how to navigate it.
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Speaker 4: I'm just simply saying what Trump is doing is, isn't
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Speaker 4: just regular conservative right-wing politics. It's authoritarianism. It's leaning into fascism.
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Speaker 4: So it's just a normalization of it that's just like, ugh.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we don't have a choice. So if you
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Speaker 1: ask me, is Trump crazy? Of course! Of course he's crazy.
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Speaker 1: Is he a con man? Of course he's a con man.
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Speaker 1: Is he an idiot? Of course he's an idiot, right? Right.
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Speaker 1: So I don't have to hold back on that at all.
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Speaker 1: But if you're the mayor of New York, he's the
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Speaker 1: president of the United States. You guys got to meet
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Speaker 1: every once in a while. You see what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: And it's not like it's on the mayor of New
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Speaker 1: York to normalize the president, whether we like it or not.
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Speaker 1: He's already president. Right. But we don't like Trump is
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Speaker 1: a madman. But America's kind of done with him. Like
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Speaker 1: we got to be like that. Right.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: We got to bear through another couple of years. But.
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Speaker 1: He's now got, like, on the economy, it's 73-27. Like,
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Speaker 1: I've never seen numbers that bad. His approval rating dipped
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Speaker 1: into the 20s. We're rapidly approaching Dick Cheney level. And so, Charlamagne,
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Speaker 1: you might remember this, and we talked about it on
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Speaker 1: this show a little bit. Look, I said I think
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Speaker 1: a lot of the independent podcasters are going to break
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Speaker 1: with Trump. I think the Rogans of the world and
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Speaker 1: all those guys are going to break. Even some of
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Speaker 1: the right wing might break. And when I said that
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Speaker 1: a couple years ago, people are like, you're mental. That's
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Speaker 1: never going to happen. It's a cult, right?
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Speaker 3: It's happening.
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Speaker 1: But it happened. Like, they all broke. Tim Dillon and
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Speaker 1: Theo Vaughn. Schultz. Andrew. Yeah, yeah. And Rogan and all
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Speaker 1: of them. And they're all like, F them. We don't,
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Speaker 1: you know, this isn't what we sign up for. So
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Speaker 1: they're gone. Now Tucker's gone. MTG's gone. Massey's gone. Joe
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Speaker 1: Kent's gone. Like, he's got nothing left. Guys, look, I
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Speaker 1: got good news.
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Speaker 3: And bad news, right?
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Speaker 1: So tons of bad news ahead. I think we're going
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Speaker 1: to have a gigantic crash. The war is never over
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Speaker 1: and it's never going to be over. And AI is
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Speaker 1: the biggest bubble I've ever seen. We're in so much trouble.
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Speaker 1: On the other hand, people are done with Trump and
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Speaker 1: almost done with the Republican Party, right? It's not like
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Speaker 1: they're like rushing into the waiting arms of the Democrats.
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Speaker 1: They're like, oh my God, I love Hakeem, right? That's
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Speaker 1: not happening. But they're like, I don't know. We don't
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Speaker 1: have a choice. So I guess we've got to try
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Speaker 1: the Democrats because these Republicans are crazy.
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Speaker 4: Hopefully.
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Speaker 1: No, but here's the other problem. Nobody's going to show
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Speaker 1: up to vote for the Republicans. Like Tucker is saying,
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Speaker 1: like Michigan, Michigan is the most important non-presidential election of
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Speaker 1: my lifetime. And I never say anything like that. Okay.
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Speaker 1: So the reason is if Abdul El-Said wins, then we
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Speaker 1: knock down this total BS about How progressives, populists, outsiders
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Speaker 1: can't win general elections, right? Because that's what the establishment
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Speaker 1: has been using to keep us down the whole time. Oh,
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Speaker 1: Bernie can't win a general election, AOC, Ro Khanna, Nina Turner.
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Speaker 1: None of you guys can't win. You guys can't win. Now, Abdul,
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Speaker 1: he's got the entire media against him. They've done 2,000
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Speaker 1: hit pieces on him. Well, what about Hassan Piker? Hassan Piker.
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Speaker 1: Hassan Piker, right? Zero criticism of Mike Rogers. Mike Rogers
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Speaker 1: is tens of millions of dollars more. A dozen Democrats
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Speaker 1: go on cable news right after the primary to argue
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Speaker 1: against their own candidate. They're like, oh, don't vote for Abdul.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't love Israel, blah, blah, blah. So he's running
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Speaker 1: against both parties. If despite all of that, he wins Michigan,
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Speaker 1: the most important swing state. They got no argument left.
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Speaker 1: That means we are ascendant. Progressive populists are the way
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Speaker 1: to go. And Abdul's perfect because he's not DSA. He's
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Speaker 1: actually great.
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Speaker 4: If you sit down and have a conversation with him,
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Speaker 4: you'd be like, I don't see how you don't like Dr.
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Speaker 3: Abdul.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I really don't.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's smart. He's compassionate. They can't put the socialist
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Speaker 1: thing on him. He's a populist. He's a different wing
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Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party, right? Right. So it's driving them crazy.
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Speaker 1: They're like, no, you have to vote for the corrupt
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Speaker 1: Mike Rogers. Mike Rogers will serve the establishment. No shit, Sherlock.
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Speaker 1: Can I curse? Yeah, of course. Okay, yeah. No shit, Sherlock.
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Speaker 1: Of course he's for the establishment. That's why we hate him.
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Speaker 1: And now Abdul's up by seven points. If he wins,
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Speaker 1: then our candidate in 2028 can win and become president.
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Speaker 1: If Abdul loses, then everybody on cable news is going
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Speaker 1: to go, don't ever elect an outsider. Don't ever elect
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Speaker 1: a populist. They can't win a general election. You have
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Speaker 1: to go back. Pete Buttigieg. Pete Buttigieg. He speaks six languages.
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Speaker 1: You have to vote for him. Can we talk about
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Speaker 1: bullshit for a second? Of course. Okay. So you remember
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Speaker 1: when Buttigieg ran before? This is so random, but like
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Speaker 1: this gives you a sense of what's going on.
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Speaker 3: He was just up here about a week ago.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, about a week ago he was up here. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So Buttigieg comes out and says, oh, I like this
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Speaker 1: book so much. So I learned Norwegian just to read
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Speaker 1: this book that I read in English, but I want
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Speaker 1: to read it in the original Norwegian.
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Speaker 3: No, he didn't.
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Speaker 1: That was some serious bullshit. And everybody's like, oh, he
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Speaker 1: learned Norwegian for a book. He learned Norwegian for a book.
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Speaker 1: The Norwegian reporter asked him something in Norwegian. He's like, what?
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Speaker 1: I mean, if one of us did that... Like Bernie
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Speaker 1: did that or Abdul did that or something like that.
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Speaker 1: People would be like, Oh, you're disqualified. You're a bullshitter.
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Speaker 1: Like move on, move on.
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Speaker 4: I give Pete credit because Pete, he always comes up here.
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Speaker 4: Meaning like not when it's election time, not when he
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Speaker 4: wants something, he comes and engages with the audience all
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Speaker 4: the time.
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Speaker 3: I do give him credit for that.
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Speaker 1: No, no, you're right. So a lot of, so Pete's
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Speaker 1: going to be in the ball game for a long time, right?
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Speaker 1: Because guys like, The presidency goes through this chair, right?
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Speaker 1: And I tell that not just to you guys, but
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Speaker 1: to Sean Ryan, to breaking points, left, right, et cetera.
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Speaker 1: But all these candidates got to come through here because
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Speaker 1: if they don't come through here, they're basically saying, I
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Speaker 1: don't want the free media. I'll just do ads. I'm
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Speaker 1: a coward. I can't defend my positions. I can't. Because, Charlamagne,
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Speaker 1: you're going to ask some real questions. All you guys
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Speaker 1: are going to ask some real questions here. And they
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Speaker 1: don't like real questions. So like 80% of the candidates
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Speaker 1: are not going to do these interviews. And they're going
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Speaker 1: to disqualify themselves. Because nobody's listening to somebody anymore who
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Speaker 1: isn't doing these interviews. So if you say, oh, I'm
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Speaker 1: not going on Breakfast Club. I'm not going on Rogan.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going on the Young Turks. Well, you're not
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Speaker 1: going to the White House. That's true. Okay. And here's why.
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Speaker 1: It's not that you and I are the one. and
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Speaker 1: all be all is that you're signaling to the voters,
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Speaker 1: I can't answer honest questions. I just can't do it.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's white, black, left, right. It
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I can't answer questions. And basically that's what
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Speaker 1: Kamala did, right? Kamala just hid in a cave. You
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Speaker 1: can't win the presidency hiding in a cave. You got
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Speaker 1: to get out here and sit in this chair and
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Speaker 1: answer questions. So that's why Ro Khanna's a huge favorite
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Speaker 1: that people don't realize because he's the guy who does
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Speaker 1: the most interviews, the most podcasts, everything. And by the way,
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Speaker 1: that's also smart because it's hundreds of millions of dollars
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Speaker 1: in free media. What are you raising all that money for?
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Speaker 1: To buy the ads in media. Why don't you just
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Speaker 1: go do the interview? That's way better than the ad.
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Speaker 4: I mean, Kamala has no problem coming here, but to
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Speaker 4: your point, she has to go to the other places.
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Speaker 3: You got to go to the Rogans. You got to
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Speaker 3: go to the.
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Speaker 4: The other outlets, I believe, like the Theo ones, I
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Speaker 4: think she should have made all of those runs.
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Speaker 1: She should be doing them now. I mean, but Charlamagne,
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Speaker 1: think about how easy that is. Like, if they said
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Speaker 1: to you, hey, you know what, you want to go
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Speaker 1: do all those interviews and defend your positions? You'd be like, well,
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Speaker 1: of course. Like, why wouldn't I? Unless you're worried about
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Speaker 1: your positions. And that's the thing, guys, let's keep it real.
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Speaker 1: Most of the politicians are fraudulent. They're totally, totally phonies, right?
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Speaker 1: And they have their talking points and their consultants give
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Speaker 1: them their talking points.
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Speaker 3: And their corporate interests.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And they're like, I know it. I know behind
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Speaker 1: the scenes, it gets so parsed that they're like, okay,
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Speaker 1: say this, but not this. You have to find, walk
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Speaker 1: that line. You say like, well, it's a tragedy what's
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Speaker 1: happened in Gaza, but it's not a genocide. And I'm
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Speaker 1: going to walk the line. So I get the donor
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Speaker 1: money and I get the, it's not going to work, man.
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Speaker 1: Sit on the chair. And tell us what you really think.
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Speaker 1: So I give Buttigieg credit because he actually, other than
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Speaker 1: Ro Khanna, is probably number two in doing most of
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Speaker 1: the interviews. So at least he can roll with that.
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Speaker 2: But you've been very vocal and critical of Israeli government's
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Speaker 2: conduct in Gaza, right?
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Speaker 1: Two questions. for you.
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Speaker 2: One, why is the term free Palestine make people so upset?
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Speaker 2: And secondly, what are your thoughts on Israeli government? I
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Speaker 2: know today Netanyahu, he said he's going to tell the
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Speaker 2: truth about Mamdani today and tell the truth about that.
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Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts on both those? Okay, so...
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Speaker 1: First of all, look, there's so much to say about Israel.
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Speaker 1: Number one, of course, is a genocide. It's unconscionable not
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Speaker 1: to call it a genocide. And weirdly, not a single
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Speaker 1: cable news anchor has called it a genocide. That's super weird.
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Speaker 1: Like every genocide scholar on earth, let's be honest, that's
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Speaker 1: not Zionist. says it's a genocide and i say that
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Speaker 1: gaza's gone what are you who are you kidding gaza's
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Speaker 1: gone show me where great gaza is you crazy right
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Speaker 1: and and israel has stolen 70 percent of that land
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Speaker 1: and they're never going to give it back they're in
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Speaker 1: southern lebanon and they're never going to give it back
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Speaker 1: and they're tearing the west bank to shreds now so
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Speaker 1: israel is a at this point, a genocidal fascist state, okay?
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Speaker 1: So I'm not parsing any words. You don't get to
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Speaker 1: slaughter 23,000 children and go, it's not a big deal,
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Speaker 1: they're Palestinian children. Because that's what you're saying. Because you
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Speaker 1: told me on October 7th that that was the worst
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Speaker 1: thing that happened since the Holocaust. And I agreed with you, right?
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Speaker 1: And on the air, we're yelling like, what are you crazy?
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Speaker 1: This is terrible.
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Speaker 3: It's terrorism.
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Speaker 1: And 36 poor kids, Israeli kids died on that day, right?
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Speaker 1: and picture them having milk and cookies and playing soccer,
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they're dead, right? 36 kids,
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Speaker 1: our hearts are broken. 23,000 kids, a stadium full of–
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Speaker 1: imagine Madison Square Garden, and every seat is filled with
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Speaker 1: a dead kid.
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Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 1: And then they say, no, we're the good guys. We're
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Speaker 1: the victims. Oh, we're doing self-defense. My ass you are.
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Speaker 1: Netanyahu is a genocidal monster. Somebody should arrest him at
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Speaker 1: some point. He's an obvious war criminal. And he has
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Speaker 1: the temerity, the gall to talk about our mayor. Why
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Speaker 1: don't you shut the fuck up about our mayor? We
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Speaker 1: elected him, including Jewish Americans, Muslim Americans. By the way,
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Speaker 1: more Jewish Americans support Mamdani than Netanyahu. And everybody in
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Speaker 1: mainstream media is a liar, right? Oh, people are concerned
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Speaker 1: about Mom Donnie. No, you're concerned about Mom Donnie. Actual
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Speaker 1: Jewish Americans are not concerned about Mom Donnie. You're making
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Speaker 1: that shit up because you represent the most radical Zionists
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Speaker 1: there are, okay? And so the Israeli ambassador is talking
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Speaker 1: about it. Oh, we should arrest Mamdani. For what? Being Muslim? OK,
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Speaker 1: for not agreeing to like servitude under the Israelis. You're
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Speaker 1: coming to our home, threatening our mayor. Who the hell
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Speaker 1: do you think you are?
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Speaker 3: And he has an arrest warrant. I don't know why
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Speaker 3: people don't talk about that more.
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Speaker 4: The ICC issued an arrest warrant for Benjamin Netanyahu for
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Speaker 4: war crimes.
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Speaker 3: So it's not like you're saying things that aren't factual.
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Speaker 1: There's no question about it. And look, guys, like every
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Speaker 1: day gets to a point where people can't take it anymore.
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Speaker 1: So like when they say on Free Palestine, right, they
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Speaker 1: jumped a shark and everybody knows they jumped a shark
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Speaker 1: on Macklemore on Free Palestine. They're like, that's anti-Semitic. How
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Speaker 1: could the freedom of other people offend you? And if
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Speaker 1: it if the freedom of others offends you, then fuck you. OK,
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Speaker 1: the problem isn't with those people. The problem is with you.
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Speaker 1: If you say the Palestinians should never be free, and
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Speaker 1: that is what the Israelis said, they literally voted, and
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Speaker 1: it was unanimous. Every Jewish Israeli member of Knesset said,
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Speaker 1: we will never free the Palestinians. They had that vote.
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Speaker 1: There's no question about it. So then they say, well,
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Speaker 1: every once in a while, we offer them peace. First
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Speaker 1: of all, totally bullshit. If you don't know, the Oslo
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Speaker 1: Accords was run by Jeffrey Epstein's best friend. Oslo Accords,
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Speaker 1: where they were pretending that they were giving the Palestinians
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Speaker 1: a real peace deal... Epstein left the guy who ran
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Speaker 1: the Oslo Accords $ 10 million in his will.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know that.
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Speaker 1: Okay? Wow. And Netanyahu threatened Bill Clinton during the Oslo
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Speaker 1: Accords saying, we have the Monica Lewinsky tapes. Before anybody
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Speaker 1: else had them, they wrote a whole book about this.
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Speaker 1: Nobody talks about it. It was in the 90s? Yeah. Wow.
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Speaker 1: And they're like, we have you on tape with Monica Lewinsky.
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Speaker 1: We want Jonathan Pollard to release The Traitor, right? And
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Speaker 1: Clinton didn't do it. And by the way, oh, look,
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Speaker 1: the tapes were released.
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Speaker 5: Hmm.
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Speaker 1: And what else wasn't released, right? So don't, like, by
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Speaker 1: the way, Epstein, every single international deal he did was
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Speaker 1: for Israel. So again, mainstream, DropSite News already proved it.
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Speaker 1: They have the emails. Here's the emails. It's indisputable.
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Speaker 3: It's factual.
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Speaker 1: It's empirical. And there's no question about it. And mainstream
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Speaker 1: media is like, shh, shh. Don't talk about how he's
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Speaker 1: connected to Israel. Why not? That's weird. Why are you
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Speaker 1: covering up the news instead of covering the news? So
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Speaker 1: free Palestine, of course, free Palestine. What kind of a
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Speaker 1: sick racist says, no, don't free the Palestinians. So if
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Speaker 1: you're a radical Zionist and you think that their freedom
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Speaker 1: offends you, You are the problem. There's no question about it.
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Speaker 1: You are purposely racist, and you say, oh, we need
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Speaker 1: to keep those people under our boot. And look, last
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Speaker 1: thing on that, think about it. They say, oh, we offer,
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Speaker 1: even if it was true, we offered a peace deal, and,
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Speaker 1: you know, they didn't get everything they wanted, but we
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Speaker 1: was good enough. They should have taken it as their fault.
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Speaker 1: Imagine if the slave owners back in the day was like, Hey,
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Speaker 1: we offered them a deal. We offered the slaves a deal.
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Speaker 1: You know, we weren't going to sell their kids anymore.
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Speaker 1: We were just going to sell their wives and their
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Speaker 1: moms and dads. And they wouldn't take the deal. So
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Speaker 1: we kept them as slaves for another 50, 60 years.
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Speaker 1: So it's their fault. People are like, what? That's like
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Speaker 1: the most monstrous thing you've ever heard in your life.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean you offered them a deal? No,
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Speaker 1: you free them, period. You free them, period. This is
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Speaker 1: not a conversation, right? And the Israelis go, no, no.
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Speaker 1: We're never going to free them. We offered them a
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Speaker 1: tiny little bit, and then they refused it. So it's
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Speaker 1: their fault. It's their fault that we're enslaving them. No.
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Speaker 1: Gaza is now a concentration camp. It's the size of Vegas,
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Speaker 1: the original Gaza. You know how small Vegas is. Now
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Speaker 1: they're down to 30% of Vegas.
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Speaker 4: 30%.
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Speaker 1: They got over 2 million people stuffed in an open
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Speaker 1: concentration camp. Tent cities. And every once in a while,
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Speaker 1: they bomb the tents. That's crazy. No, no, this is crazy.
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Speaker 1: And then you tell me you're going to cancel somebody
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Speaker 1: because they said free Palestine? How is that anti-Semitic?
16:03
Speaker 4: What do you say to people who say free Palestine
16:06
Speaker 4: is a call for the elimination of Israel?
16:10
Speaker 1: Look, I know that some people actually believe that. But
16:12
Speaker 1: what they don't realize is that they're in a cult.
16:15
Speaker 1: Like they've lost touch with reality. No, freeing the Palestinians
16:18
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you kill all the Jews. But like anytime
16:20
Speaker 1: you say anything about Israel, hey, can I get out
16:22
Speaker 1: like a falafel sandwich? You're going to kill all the Jews.
16:25
Speaker 1: What the fuck? What just happened, right? Like, oh, a
16:29
Speaker 1: Muslim got elected mayor. You're going to kill all the Jews.
16:32
Speaker 1: Our existence doesn't mean that you don't have to exist. Like,
16:37
Speaker 1: they're being so unbelievably racist that they're like, well, if
16:41
Speaker 1: you're free, then I'm not. But that doesn't make any sense, man.
16:44
Speaker 1: The Israelis are not occupied by the Palestinians. The Palestinians
16:48
Speaker 1: are occupied by the Israelis. They're turning the whole truth
16:52
Speaker 1: upside down. It doesn't make any sense. So, no. But
16:57
Speaker 1: the thing is, guys, it's not like they're making it up.
17:00
Speaker 1: Some guys at the top that are super powerful are
17:02
Speaker 1: making up those talking points, and they know they're making
17:04
Speaker 1: it up. But most of the folks genuinely have bought
17:07
Speaker 1: into the cult ideology, and they're like, if anyone else
17:10
Speaker 1: has freedom, they're going to kill us all. They're going
17:12
Speaker 1: to kill us all. They're going to kill us all.
17:14
Speaker 1: By the way, Zionism, this is super important, is not Judaism, okay?
17:18
Speaker 1: And a lot of the Jewish groups initially were super
17:21
Speaker 1: opposed to Zionism. Albert Einstein was opposed to Zionism. One
17:24
Speaker 1: of the top Jewish philosophers, Hannah Arendt, was opposed to Zionism.
17:27
Speaker 1: They're like, you're setting up nationalism, and nationalism is always
17:32
Speaker 1: a threat to religion. Like it's a threat to Judaism.
17:35
Speaker 1: Don't do it. By the way, the Zionists, this is unbelievable.
17:39
Speaker 1: In 1933, they broke an anti-Nazi boycott. And other Jewish
17:44
Speaker 1: groups were like, what are you doing? What are you doing?
17:46
Speaker 1: Those Nazis are super dangerous, right? And the Zionists were like, no,
17:50
Speaker 1: we're going to get money to Israel. Israel is the
17:52
Speaker 1: most important thing, Israeli nationalism, et cetera. So look, these
17:56
Speaker 1: guys have jumped the shark. So, and what I would
18:00
Speaker 1: say to like, Jewish brothers and sisters who mean well, right?
18:05
Speaker 1: And who don't know all of this history and don't
18:07
Speaker 1: know that, you know, they've, you know, because we all
18:10
Speaker 1: live in a different like bubble, right? And they don't
18:13
Speaker 1: realize they're in a bubble. And in that bubble, they've
18:15
Speaker 1: been taught over and over again for the benefit of Israel.
18:18
Speaker 1: If there is no Israel, all the Jews are going
18:19
Speaker 1: to die. If anyone criticizes Israel, all the Jews are
18:23
Speaker 1: going to die. And so they believe it. But it's
18:25
Speaker 1: not true. It's not true. Nobody's looking to kill you.
18:28
Speaker 1: They're just looking to have their own freedom.
18:30
Speaker 4: Let's expound on that, because what do you say to
18:33
Speaker 4: people who agree that Israel and Netanyahu, they deserve criticism,
18:37
Speaker 4: but they feel like some people have crossed from criticizing
18:41
Speaker 4: Israel into rhetoric that is targeting Jewish America?
18:44
Speaker 3: What would you say to those?
18:45
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, they always say that, like, because the
18:47
Speaker 1: minute you criticize anything about Israel, hey, it was rainy
18:49
Speaker 1: today in Israel. They're like, you're criticizing all Jews. And
18:52
Speaker 1: it's actually weird because like all the critics of almost
18:57
Speaker 1: all the critics of Israel. Right. Me, Glenn Greenwald, you know, whoever,
19:01
Speaker 1: like all these folks, by the way, half of whom
19:03
Speaker 1: are Jewish Americans. OK, like criticizing Israel legitimately. Right. Right.
19:09
Speaker 1: We're like, hey, guys, here's what you're doing wrong like
19:11
Speaker 1: any other government. And they're like, you're picking on Jews.
19:13
Speaker 1: And you're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, no. We're saying
19:16
Speaker 1: not the Jews. Remember, 63% of Jewish Americans are against
19:19
Speaker 1: the current Israeli government. So don't hide behind Jewish people.
19:23
Speaker 1: You're using them as human shields. They don't even agree
19:25
Speaker 1: with you, right? And then the only two people who say, no,
19:29
Speaker 1: it's not Israel, it's the Jews, is Groypers, like Nick
19:32
Speaker 1: Fuentes and those guys. They go, no, no, no, it's
19:33
Speaker 1: the Jews, right? And AIPAC. They're like, no, it's all
19:38
Speaker 1: the Jews. And we're like, no, it's not the Jews,
19:40
Speaker 1: it's Israel. They're like, shut up, you mean the Jews.
19:43
Speaker 1: Why are you trying to blame all Jewish people? Like,
19:45
Speaker 1: we're not the ones doing it. They're the ones doing it.
19:47
Speaker 1: It's super weird. And the reason they're doing it is
19:50
Speaker 1: they're using them to shield Israel from criticism. And so,
19:54
Speaker 1: but what that does is it endangers Jewish Americans and
19:58
Speaker 1: Jews across the world for no reason. Here, I'll give
20:00
Speaker 1: you an example that's obvious. Like, I'm Turkish American, so
20:04
Speaker 1: I was born in Turkey originally. And so... The Turkish government,
20:08
Speaker 1: every once in a while, does terrible stuff, right? If
20:11
Speaker 1: everybody was like, well, if Turkey invades northern Syria, then
20:15
Speaker 1: that's the Turks that did it. I'd be like, well, no,
20:17
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't have anything to do with it.
20:20
Speaker 1: I didn't tell the Turkish government what to do. I'm
20:22
Speaker 1: not in favor of what the Turkish government is doing. Why?
20:24
Speaker 1: Because that's obvious, right? Like, I'm an individual. The Turkish
20:27
Speaker 1: government doesn't represent me. But when it comes to Israel,
20:30
Speaker 1: they're like, no, it represents all Jewish people. No, it doesn't.
20:33
Speaker 1: The Norwegian government doesn't represent all Norwegians. The Turkish government
20:36
Speaker 1: doesn't represent all Turks. The Israeli government doesn't represent all Jews.
20:39
Speaker 1: But it's weird.
20:40
Speaker 3: The American government doesn't represent all Americans. Exactly.
20:42
Speaker 1: That is for sure. But they keep claiming, no, the
20:46
Speaker 1: only exception is Israel. And you know why? Because if
20:50
Speaker 1: you say it's anti-Semitic, then they get to shut down
20:53
Speaker 1: the conversation, right? But no, no. Can I do likewise?
20:56
Speaker 1: Can I just call something Islamophobic and say, that's it,
20:59
Speaker 1: everybody has to agree with me? Does that rule apply
21:02
Speaker 1: both ways? Right. No, you know, it doesn't. Right. If
21:05
Speaker 1: someone is saying something hateful towards Muslims, that's Tuesday. Right.
21:09
Speaker 1: Nobody cares.
21:10
Speaker 5: So so all that being said, right, how dangerous is
21:13
Speaker 5: it or, you know, how should the conversation go when
21:15
Speaker 5: people are saying like, OK, well, but Robert Kraft can
21:17
Speaker 5: come out and say, hey, because Macklemore showed or sung
21:22
Speaker 5: or did certain things, he's unfairly painting this picture and
21:25
Speaker 5: not showing both sides of it. And he can do that.
21:28
Speaker 5: And Macklemore be taken off the store. Why aren't more
21:30
Speaker 5: people focused on that part of it? then upset at
21:34
Speaker 5: Ed Sheeran because Macklemore's not on a tour anymore. If
21:36
Speaker 5: it's so dangerous and, and all these people rally and
21:39
Speaker 5: speak out, like why don't they focus on the other
21:42
Speaker 5: side of it?
21:43
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I think that all real people
21:46
Speaker 1: know that the person who's most guilty is Robert Kraft. Absolutely. Like,
21:50
Speaker 1: so Ed Sheeran is put in a super difficult spot
21:53
Speaker 1: and I know people are pissed at Sheeran. I actually,
21:57
Speaker 1: I don't really care that much. Like, Yeah, he shouldn't
21:59
Speaker 1: have done what he did. He should have kept Macklemore.
22:02
Speaker 1: That would have been the heroic thing to do, the
22:04
Speaker 1: better thing to do, the more moral thing to do.
22:06
Speaker 1: But he's less of a problem than the guy who
22:08
Speaker 1: ordered it, right, which is Robert Kraft. And Robert Kraft saying,
22:12
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to have certain opinions in America. Otherwise,
22:15
Speaker 1: we're going to use our economic might against you, right?
22:18
Speaker 1: And so Robert Kraft is the same guy who cracked
22:20
Speaker 1: down on the students at Columbia. So he's on the
22:23
Speaker 1: board of Columbia, and he told them, you better get
22:26
Speaker 1: rid of those kids protesting against Israel. OK, otherwise I'm
22:29
Speaker 1: going to withdraw all my money from Colombia and we're
22:31
Speaker 1: going to make a list. And they did. They made
22:33
Speaker 1: a list of students who criticized Israel and they blacklisted them. Well,
22:38
Speaker 1: that's McCarthyism, right? Why are we letting these thugs push
22:41
Speaker 1: us around? So I had a black student at Yale
22:45
Speaker 1: come up to me when I was there and say, look,
22:47
Speaker 1: I'm not Palestinian. I'm not Muslim or anything like that.
22:50
Speaker 1: But I got eyes and ears. And but I can't
22:54
Speaker 1: say anything about Gaza. Thank you for speaking up. Because
22:57
Speaker 1: they are literally keeping lists. And if I say something
23:00
Speaker 1: about Gaza, I'm not going to be able to get
23:02
Speaker 1: a job in finance. Right? So here's a guy who,
23:06
Speaker 1: you know, struggled to get to Yale. You know, it's
23:09
Speaker 1: a tremendous investment to go to Yale. He's got to
23:13
Speaker 1: pay that off. He's going to have a bright career.
23:15
Speaker 1: But he knows he's not allowed to say certain things
23:18
Speaker 1: in America anymore because of guys like Robert Kraft. So
23:22
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a hilarious story about Robert Kraft and
23:23
Speaker 1: lighten it in a second. But So that guy, and
23:27
Speaker 1: it's not just him, they're pretending that there aren't these
23:30
Speaker 1: billionaires who are pushing the media, who are pushing people
23:35
Speaker 1: like Macklemore, who are pushing Columbia, who are pushing all
23:38
Speaker 1: these things. You must be pro-Israel. You must be pro-Israel.
23:42
Speaker 1: There's going to be consequences if you're not pro-Israel. Well, brother,
23:45
Speaker 1: you're not the boss of me, okay? So maybe you're
23:48
Speaker 1: the boss of Ed Sheeran, but you're not the boss
23:49
Speaker 1: of me. And so fuck Robert Kraft and the horse
23:52
Speaker 1: he rode in on. And I'm tired of all of
23:56
Speaker 1: these guys telling us how we have to kneel to
23:59
Speaker 1: a foreign country. I mean, look at all these people
24:01
Speaker 1: that just declare themselves Zionists, right, that are like random politicians, right?
24:06
Speaker 1: What's Zionism? It's Israeli nationalism. Imagine if some politician just
24:11
Speaker 1: got up one day and was like, I'm a Nicaraguan nationalist.
24:13
Speaker 1: People would be like, that's super weird, right? And then
24:15
Speaker 1: another guy was like, I'm a Nicaraguan nationalist. And then
24:18
Speaker 1: all of a sudden all the politicians are saying they're
24:20
Speaker 1: Nicaraguan nationalists. We'd be like, that's the craziest shit I've
24:23
Speaker 1: ever seen. Why are they all declaring they're nationalists for
24:25
Speaker 1: another country, right? And a kind of a small one.
24:27
Speaker 1: And then you found out, oh, the Nicaraguan lobby has
24:30
Speaker 1: been giving hundreds of millions of dollars to all these politicians.
24:34
Speaker 1: You'd be like, oh, I figured it out. It's not
24:36
Speaker 1: big of a mystery, right? That's literally what's happening with
24:38
Speaker 1: the Israeli lobby.
24:39
Speaker 4: Can't you be pro-Israel but be anti-Israeli government, anti-Netanyahu?
24:45
Speaker 1: Of course, of course. 63% of Jewish Americans are that way, right?
24:48
Speaker 1: They don't hate Israel. I don't hate it. Like, I
24:51
Speaker 1: hate what Israel's doing, right?
24:53
Speaker 3: Israeli government.
24:53
Speaker 1: The Israeli government. Although, look, we get into sensitive conversations,
24:57
Speaker 1: but the Israeli people have to turn around, right? But
25:01
Speaker 1: we can leave that aside for now. But the government's
25:03
Speaker 1: clearly doing something very, very wrong, right? But that doesn't
25:06
Speaker 1: mean that Israel can't exist, that Israel shouldn't be an
25:09
Speaker 1: independent and safe state. What's the right solution? It's obvious. Israel-Palestine.
25:14
Speaker 1: Both exist. Both are safe. Both are independent. Both are
25:17
Speaker 1: real countries with militaries, and they control their own borders,
25:21
Speaker 1: et cetera. And what do we get when we say,
25:23
Speaker 1: can we just get equality? We would just love equality, period.
25:26
Speaker 1: That would be amazing, right? They go, no, the Palestinians
25:30
Speaker 1: can't be trusted anymore. if they have a real government
25:33
Speaker 1: with a real military, they'll kill all the Jews. That's
25:37
Speaker 1: because you're racist and you keep, that's like, they'd be like,
25:40
Speaker 1: we can't free the slaves because they'll kill all the masters.
25:42
Speaker 1: They'll kill all the white people. So when are you
25:43
Speaker 1: going to free them? I'm never going to free them
25:45
Speaker 1: because they're the racist. No, you're the racist, right? You're
25:48
Speaker 1: the one keeping the Palestinians under your boot. You're not
25:52
Speaker 1: under their boot. Well, I justified. I justified because Palestinians
25:58
Speaker 1: are terrorists, and if we give them their freedom, they'll
26:01
Speaker 1: kill us all because they're savages. No, you don't sound normal.
26:04
Speaker 1: You sound like a weirdo, really problematic racist person. And so, look,
26:09
Speaker 1: for the folks who are good people, so are there
26:11
Speaker 1: even good Zionists? So some on the left might say, hey, Cenk, no, no,
26:15
Speaker 1: Zionism is nationalism. It's wrong, et cetera. I get it.
26:18
Speaker 1: But the people themselves, the overwhelming majority of people who
26:22
Speaker 1: are Jewish Zionists, right? They don't know that. They think
26:27
Speaker 1: they're doing the right thing. So even though I'm speaking
26:30
Speaker 1: really harshly about it, what I'm trying to do is
26:32
Speaker 1: like shake them out of it. Like, I know you
26:34
Speaker 1: could be better than that. I know you don't want
26:36
Speaker 1: to be racist. I know you don't think of yourself
26:38
Speaker 1: as racist, but your actions are deeply, deeply racist. And
26:43
Speaker 1: so I'm trying to get you out of that hole. Like,
26:46
Speaker 1: So can Israel be a normal nation in the world?
26:49
Speaker 1: Of course it can, right? Can Zionists realize, oh, maybe
26:52
Speaker 1: I shouldn't hate everyone else under the pretense of being
26:55
Speaker 1: their victims, right? But they got to get out of
26:59
Speaker 1: the mindset. They really think they're the victims. Are you insane?
27:02
Speaker 4: I just remember before October 7th when you had so
27:05
Speaker 4: many Israelis taking to the streets protesting against Israel.
27:09
Speaker 3: Netanyahu, right? And he was facing criminal charges. So I'm
27:13
Speaker 3: just like, that's what I remember.
27:15
Speaker 4: So there has to be that same group of people
27:16
Speaker 4: that exist there now that don't like Netanyahu either.
27:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, Israeli press actually does a pretty
27:22
Speaker 1: good job, right? And they broke a story about how
27:27
Speaker 1: Netanyahu knew about October 7th.
27:29
Speaker 3: Oh, I saw that.
27:30
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton said that too. I've got IDF soldiers on
27:35
Speaker 1: tape that we showed on The Young Turks saying we
27:37
Speaker 1: got a stand down order. I got Charlie Kirk on
27:40
Speaker 1: tape before he– like just five days after October 7th.
27:43
Speaker 1: He's on Patrick B. David's show, and he says, I've
27:46
Speaker 1: been to Israel. It's a 45-minute helicopter ride from Jerusalem
27:50
Speaker 1: to the border, and they couldn't get the IDF there
27:52
Speaker 1: in six to seven hours? Like the biggest, baddest military
27:57
Speaker 1: in the world theoretically, and you couldn't find a way
27:59
Speaker 1: to the border? in under seven hours? Nah, nah, nah, nah.
28:04
Speaker 1: And then afterwards, they're like, oh, look at that. We
28:07
Speaker 1: are victims. We will now go and take 70% of
28:10
Speaker 1: Gaza and destroy the West Bank and take southern Lebanon
28:13
Speaker 1: and take southern Syria. And we'll get all of our
28:15
Speaker 1: dogs on cable news to go, woof, woof, woof. They
28:17
Speaker 1: are the victims. Self-defense, blah, blah, blah, blah. Hey, bitch,
28:21
Speaker 1: look at the map. Look at the map. Did Lebanon
28:23
Speaker 1: invade Israel or did Israel invade southern Lebanon? And do
28:27
Speaker 1: they have their tanks in southern Lebanon right now? Have
28:29
Speaker 1: they destroyed Christian villages, Muslim villages, and taken them over?
28:34
Speaker 1: They have. They have. And yet every cable news liar
28:37
Speaker 1: is out there going like, oh, I can't tell. I
28:39
Speaker 1: think the Palestinians might be terrorists. Muslims bad. Arabs bad. Right?
28:44
Speaker 1: I ran into a random Arab guy in the street today.
28:47
Speaker 1: And he says, hey, thanks for doing what you do
28:49
Speaker 1: and stuff. He says, look, I'm a CEO at this
28:51
Speaker 1: point because I've struggled through so many things. And I
28:54
Speaker 1: kept on fighting. But he's like, I didn't even realize
28:57
Speaker 1: how much I was being discriminated against. Like, I knew it,
28:59
Speaker 1: but it's like you need to ask a fish, how's
29:01
Speaker 1: the water? They go, what water? Because they're so used
29:03
Speaker 1: to it, right? He's like, I lived with discrimination so
29:07
Speaker 1: long as an Arab American that I just got used
29:10
Speaker 1: to it. Like, I just thought it was normal that
29:12
Speaker 1: if I'm going for a job, they're going to assume
29:14
Speaker 1: that I'm like this or that, et cetera. I'm going
29:18
Speaker 1: to get way more questions. Like, and they're going to
29:20
Speaker 1: look at me like, are you a terrorist or whatever?
29:23
Speaker 1: And then I got to get past that. Why? Who
29:25
Speaker 1: poisoned the well? Mainstream media did. New York Times did.
29:28
Speaker 1: CNN did. I mean, they call, like, Tucker Carlson this
29:31
Speaker 1: and that names, right? Tucker Carlson's better to Muslim Americans
29:34
Speaker 1: than cable news guys are, better than New York Times are.
29:37
Speaker 1: uh every time they talk about muslims in cable news
29:41
Speaker 1: they're criticizing him and painting them as dark and animalistic
29:45
Speaker 1: and savages and terrorists i'm sick of that shit i'm
29:50
Speaker 1: just sick of it aren't i allowed to be sick
29:53
Speaker 1: of it or is it only people who are in
29:55
Speaker 1: favor of israel that get to claim victimhood right And
29:58
Speaker 1: I'm not even claiming victimhood. I'm just saying, man, can
30:00
Speaker 1: I be free? You remember those signs of the civil
30:03
Speaker 1: rights movement? All it said was, I am a man.
30:06
Speaker 1: I kind of want to carry that around. I am
30:08
Speaker 1: a man. I'm an American. And treat me like an American.
30:12
Speaker 1: Treat me with dignity and respect. And, like, I'm a
30:15
Speaker 1: free man, right? But all we get is nonstop propaganda
30:20
Speaker 1: in favor of Israel and against Palestinians and against Arabs.
30:23
Speaker 1: And now we're not allowed to say free Palestine? Are
30:28
Speaker 1: we all forced to say enslave Palestine? What else are
30:31
Speaker 1: you going to make us do?
30:32
Speaker 5: Is it that... Because is there, like, a middle point where, like...
30:35
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess not, though, because now people are
30:36
Speaker 5: kind of, like, upset at Ed Sheeran. But can you
30:38
Speaker 5: say free Palestine, but then also say... Talk about the
30:42
Speaker 5: other things that happened on the other side as.
30:43
Speaker 3: Well, too.
30:44
Speaker 1: Like, or... Of course.
30:46
Speaker 3: No.
30:47
Speaker 5: That's why people are mad at Ed Sheeran.
30:50
Speaker 4: I think you can acknowledge that there's 27,000 dead Palestinian
30:54
Speaker 4: kids and say that's wrong and then also say October
30:57
Speaker 4: 7th was wrong as well.
30:59
Speaker 1: So let me give a nuance to it. So are
31:02
Speaker 1: you right, Charlamagne? Of course you're right. And I say
31:04
Speaker 1: all the time, and I said it earlier in this show, right?
31:06
Speaker 1: October 7th is obviously wrong. You don't kill civilians. I'm
31:09
Speaker 1: for peace. I'm for nonviolence. I want both sides to
31:12
Speaker 1: be super safe. I don't want a single... other person killed,
31:16
Speaker 1: and I would never be in favor of it. Now,
31:18
Speaker 1: having said that, when you say October 7th and then
31:22
Speaker 1: what happened in Gaza, it makes us sound equal. But
31:25
Speaker 1: in Gaza, they did 75 October 7ths.
31:30
Speaker 3: 75 of them.
31:30
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the equivalent of the number of civilians they
31:33
Speaker 1: killed in Palestine. And our press goes, who gives a shit?
31:36
Speaker 1: They're just Palestinians. No, wait a minute, wait a minute.
31:38
Speaker 1: You told me October 7th was the worst thing that
31:40
Speaker 1: happened since the Holocaust. Now the Israelis, it's 75 of those,
31:45
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they're not important. All
31:47
Speaker 1: of a sudden it's who gives a shit. Like one
31:50
Speaker 1: versus 75. So if we're going to talk about it,
31:52
Speaker 1: we should talk about the tragedy in Gaza and the
31:54
Speaker 1: slaughter and the genocide in Gaza 75 times as much
31:58
Speaker 1: as we talk about October 7th. Then it's equal. Right.
32:01
Speaker 1: But instead, it's the exact reverse. Right. Everybody in TV
32:04
Speaker 1: is like October 7th, October 7th, October 7th. Ah, Palestinians,
32:07
Speaker 1: who gives a shit? Who gives a shit? Who gives
32:08
Speaker 1: a shit? Right. Well, OK, well, if you're going to
32:10
Speaker 1: be a dick, then I get to say, hey, listen, brother,
32:13
Speaker 1: you did 75 times worse. OK, so don't until you
32:18
Speaker 1: apologize for a stadium full of dead children. I'm not
32:21
Speaker 1: really interested in your opinion and especially I'm not interested
32:24
Speaker 1: in your opinion about how you're the victims. And so
32:27
Speaker 1: let's now come back to Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan. Right.
32:31
Speaker 1: So I declared myself an unofficial surrogate for him. Why
32:34
Speaker 1: did I have to do that? That's a weird thing, right?
32:36
Speaker 1: Because the brother's now so afraid of taking surrogates because
32:40
Speaker 1: the minute Abdul takes a surrogate, like if Charlemagne, if
32:42
Speaker 1: you were a surrogate of Abdul El-Said, all of the
32:46
Speaker 1: press would get into your life and they'd try to
32:48
Speaker 1: find something that you did wrong. And then they'd be like,
32:51
Speaker 1: that's it, Abdul. You have to apologize for Charlemagne, what
32:53
Speaker 1: he said back in 1987.
32:54
Speaker 3: Like how they're doing with Hassan.
32:56
Speaker 1: What they're doing with Hassan, right? But wait. Mike Rogers
33:00
Speaker 1: has taken money from the Israeli lobby, so did you
33:03
Speaker 1: ask him to denounce Benjamin Netanyahu, the butcher of Gaza?
33:06
Speaker 1: Not a single reporter has asked him.
33:08
Speaker 3: That's a great point.
33:09
Speaker 1: Did you ask him to denounce AIPAC that's bought 94%
33:11
Speaker 1: of Congress and that is funding, you know, wants America
33:16
Speaker 1: to fund a genocide? Did you ask him to denounce AIPAC? No,
33:19
Speaker 1: not a single reporter has asked him to denounce it.
33:21
Speaker 1: He's got somebody that's working for him that was part
33:23
Speaker 1: of that Nazi chant in the young Republican groups, et cetera. Now,
33:26
Speaker 1: that's as anti-Semitic as it gets. They're like, oh, we
33:29
Speaker 1: don't really care about anti-Semitism. He's for Israel, so it's okay. Wait, what?
33:33
Speaker 1: So do we care about anti-Semitism or we don't? How
33:36
Speaker 1: come there has been 2,000 negative stories about Abdullah Saeed
33:41
Speaker 1: and zero about Mike Rogers? And you're telling me your
33:44
Speaker 1: objective is Nah, no. New York Times, CNN, you are
33:48
Speaker 1: not objective. You're hacks. You're total hacks. And every time,
33:53
Speaker 1: and by the way, they did this to me. So
33:55
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders is running back in 2020. I run for Congress.
33:58
Speaker 1: Bernie endorses me. By the way, in that race, I said,
34:03
Speaker 1: by the end, they'll call Bernie an anti-Semite. even though
34:06
Speaker 1: he's Jewish. And by the end, they call him an anti-Semite.
34:09
Speaker 1: Because it's a one-trick pony. That pony doesn't have a
34:12
Speaker 1: second trick. So they're like, he's Jewish-American, and you're supporting
34:15
Speaker 1: a Jewish-American for president for the most powerful position on earth?
34:19
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. We're going to call you anti-Semites anyway, right?
34:22
Speaker 1: So now Bernie endorses me, and then they dig into
34:26
Speaker 1: my life, and they're like, oh, my God, Bernie, did
34:29
Speaker 1: you know what Cenk said in 1987 and 1997? And
34:30
Speaker 1: you got to denounce him. You got to denounce him.
34:33
Speaker 1: So the minute that anyone is attached to a progressive
34:37
Speaker 1: or a populist, et cetera, the media attacks viciously.
34:41
Speaker 4: I'm interested to see what they're going to do to
34:42
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris since she was with yesterday, right?
34:45
Speaker 1: Yeah.
34:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm interested to see what they're going to do.
34:47
Speaker 1: Nah, she's establishment. They'll leave her alone. Yeah. So there's
34:50
Speaker 1: people that, like, she was a good girl and she
34:53
Speaker 1: supported Israel even though it cost her the election. And
34:55
Speaker 1: so they're like, no, no, no, she's good. She's good.
34:58
Speaker 1: So they'll be fine with her. But it's guys like
35:00
Speaker 1: us that they'll attack. But with Mike Rogers, they're like,
35:04
Speaker 1: golly gee, what are we, reporters? We cannot find a
35:07
Speaker 1: single negative thing about him. Oh, is he connected to
35:10
Speaker 1: people like Abdul is connected to people? Golly gee, what
35:13
Speaker 1: are we, reporters? We couldn't figure that out. Oh, he's
35:16
Speaker 1: connected to a butcher who killed 23,000 children. Well, that's
35:19
Speaker 1: normal because Palestinian lives don't matter. But do you know
35:22
Speaker 1: what Hassan said?
35:23
Speaker 3: I want to ask you about journalists, right?
35:27
Speaker 4: When a president starts deciding which reporters, which journalists are
35:30
Speaker 4: allowed to cover him, based on whether he likes their coverage.
35:34
Speaker 3: What do you call that?
35:36
Speaker 1: Authoritarianism, totalitarianism. We certainly don't call it freedom. But you
35:40
Speaker 1: want to know why he did that? That same day
35:42
Speaker 1: that he did that wild ass, I'm banning CNN, et cetera,
35:46
Speaker 1: was the day that Tom Massey and Ro Khanna got
35:51
Speaker 1: enough votes to release the second half of the Epstein files.
35:54
Speaker 1: They declared, we've got 218 votes. We're going to get
35:58
Speaker 1: the second half of the Epstein files. And Trump's like,
36:00
Speaker 1: I'm banning CNN, MSNOW, and Politico. And by the way,
36:05
Speaker 1: that one is actually smart. Why? Because if you make
36:08
Speaker 1: it about the media, the media is so self-obsessed that
36:10
Speaker 1: they're going to talk about that nonstop. Now nobody's covering
36:14
Speaker 1: the Epstein files. The Iran war is a disaster. Gas
36:17
Speaker 1: prices are a disaster. But all anybody's talking about is
36:20
Speaker 1: the media ban. So that was actually a very successful distraction.
36:24
Speaker 1: Trump's got a bag of squirrels that he carries around. And, like,
36:27
Speaker 1: whenever he needs a distraction, he's like, here's a squirrel,
36:30
Speaker 1: and the media chases after it. And sometimes when he
36:32
Speaker 1: needs this much distraction, he does the whole bag of squirrels,
36:35
Speaker 1: and they're running around everywhere, and the media is chasing
36:37
Speaker 1: after it. Now, having said that, of course it's wrong. And,
36:42
Speaker 1: by the way, what happened, tough guy? I thought, oh, yeah,
36:45
Speaker 1: I'm America first, and I'm the best, and I'm the greatest,
36:49
Speaker 1: and nobody knows plumbing better than I do. He knows
36:52
Speaker 1: everything better than everybody, right? Nobody knows pastrami sandwiches better
36:55
Speaker 1: than I do. All right, dude. All right. Go ahead.
36:57
Speaker 1: Show it. Show it. Right. You're a fucking disaster. Show it. Right. No,
37:01
Speaker 1: you're going to do bag of squirrels. So if you
37:03
Speaker 1: can't defend yourself against the media. Right. Well, then you
37:07
Speaker 1: don't belong. That's the same exact thing I say about
37:09
Speaker 1: the presidential candidates on the Democratic side. If you can't
37:12
Speaker 1: sit on this in this seat, you don't belong. Right.
37:15
Speaker 1: Because that means you can't answer honest questions. So Trump
37:17
Speaker 1: is basically raising his hand and saying, I'm a bitch.
37:20
Speaker 1: I can't answer any of your questions, so I'm going
37:22
Speaker 1: to have to ban you because if you were to
37:24
Speaker 1: ask me normal questions, I can't answer it. I'm weak
37:27
Speaker 1: and I'm wrong, right? So if CNN were to come
37:30
Speaker 1: and ask me questions about their beloved Israel and all
37:33
Speaker 1: the bullshit propaganda that they do, I'm right here, brother.
37:38
Speaker 1: I'm right here. But CNN doesn't want any piece of that, right?
37:41
Speaker 1: So CNN, MSNOW, Fox News, they won't have us on.
37:45
Speaker 1: You know, with Hassan.
37:46
Speaker 4: That's crazy because they have Anna on CNN.
37:48
Speaker 1: No, they took her off.
37:49
Speaker 3: They used to, yeah.
37:50
Speaker 1: You know why they took her off? No. Because she
37:52
Speaker 1: criticizes her. What?
37:54
Speaker 3: I haven't seen her on Abby in a while now
37:55
Speaker 3: that I think about it.
37:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Wow, wow, wow. They took her off. She
37:58
Speaker 1: was on Real Clear Politics. Some board member who's a
38:02
Speaker 1: Zionist was like, I don't want her on. I am
38:06
Speaker 1: a victim. Fire her. Wow. Okay.
38:09
Speaker 3: She wasn't an official correspondent, though. She was, right?
38:11
Speaker 1: Not for CNN. For Real Clear Politics, she was actually
38:13
Speaker 1: writing investigative pieces for them, which were terrific. And CNN,
38:17
Speaker 1: she was just a contributor, but somebody at some point
38:20
Speaker 1: sent a memo. She's against Israel. Take her off the air.
38:24
Speaker 3: Wow.
38:24
Speaker 1: Okay. And by the way, I mean, just think about it, guys.
38:26
Speaker 1: Think about it. This is indisputable. Indisputable. Okay? So now
38:30
Speaker 1: you're telling me you could find 2,000 pro-Israel guests. that
38:34
Speaker 1: you put all over cable news every single day, eight
38:36
Speaker 1: times a day. You can't find one pro-Palestinian guest. You
38:41
Speaker 1: can't find one. So when I go to speak at
38:44
Speaker 1: Muslim events and Arab American events, what they tell me
38:47
Speaker 1: all the time is, thank you for being our voice.
38:50
Speaker 1: And that's super humbling. It's like the greatest honor of
38:53
Speaker 1: my life, right? To be able to be a voice
38:55
Speaker 1: for the voiceless. But why are they voiceless? And one
38:58
Speaker 1: brother who's a Syrian American told me, He said, 40
39:01
Speaker 1: years I've been waiting for somebody to say our side
39:05
Speaker 1: just once. Are they ever going to say our side
39:08
Speaker 1: in the media just once? Right? And they wouldn't do it.
39:12
Speaker 1: He's like, I held protests in front of CNN in
39:14
Speaker 1: Atlanta over and over again in the hopes that they'd
39:16
Speaker 1: put one brother on who would say our side. And
39:19
Speaker 1: CNN was like, no! 2,000 guests in a row that
39:22
Speaker 1: are all pro-Israel. But Cenk, oh, no, we can't put
39:26
Speaker 1: him on for pro-Palestinian. By the way, they hit Hassan
39:29
Speaker 1: a million times, and they won't let Hassan come on.
39:32
Speaker 1: So wait, wait, wait. I thought you were objective. How
39:34
Speaker 1: could 2,000 to zero be objective? How could you hit someone,
39:37
Speaker 1: and then you don't allow them to come on to respond?
39:40
Speaker 1: How is that objective? That's not objective. They do propaganda,
39:44
Speaker 1: this junk you're reading in the New York Times and
39:46
Speaker 1: Politico and Axios and all that stuff. is not news.
39:50
Speaker 1: It is super rich people buying news companies to give
39:55
Speaker 1: their point of view, pretending that it's the news and
39:58
Speaker 1: it's the truth and it's facts. I could break down
40:02
Speaker 1: every one of their stories and tell you, is this
40:03
Speaker 1: a fact?
40:04
Speaker 3: No.
40:05
Speaker 1: Is this a fact? Yes. Why didn't you put it
40:07
Speaker 1: in the story? Oh, well, the editor, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Okay.
40:10
Speaker 3: Yeah.
40:10
Speaker 1: You're biased. You're 100% biased. You're 100% racist against Arabs.
40:13
Speaker 1: You're 100% bigoted against Muslims. So don't give me any
40:19
Speaker 1: bullshit about how, oh, my God, oh, your beloved Israel's
40:22
Speaker 1: the victims. How could you have all the power to
40:25
Speaker 1: shut us out of media completely and then pretend that
40:28
Speaker 1: you're the victim? That just doesn't make any sense at all.
40:31
Speaker 4: I just think it's got to be nuanced when you say, like,
40:36
Speaker 4: beloved Israel, but you're against Israeli government. I think that's
40:41
Speaker 4: where the confusion keeps coming up.
40:43
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
40:43
Speaker 4: When you say, because like I said, you can be pro-Israel,
40:47
Speaker 4: but I'm not pro-Bibi or pro-Israeli government and what that
40:51
Speaker 4: military has done to Gaza.
40:53
Speaker 3: Yeah.
40:53
Speaker 1: Look, I say a hundred times, no one should get
40:57
Speaker 1: hurt on either side. Israel should be a safe haven
40:59
Speaker 1: for Jews and they should be left alone. 1967 borders,
41:03
Speaker 1: et cetera. And by the way, 53 Arab countries have
41:05
Speaker 1: already said yes to that, right? So that deal could
41:08
Speaker 1: be done tomorrow. But Israel doesn't want that deal because
41:11
Speaker 1: they want more land. Okay, all right, then CNN, be
41:14
Speaker 1: honest about it. Israel is blocking a peace deal, never
41:17
Speaker 1: listens to a ceasefire, has done an October 7th in
41:20
Speaker 1: Gaza since the ceasefire in Gaza, killed more people than
41:24
Speaker 1: was killed on October 7th since the ceasefire, which they never,
41:27
Speaker 1: ever abide by. So why don't you be honest about it, right?
41:31
Speaker 1: So you're not going to be honest, and you're going
41:33
Speaker 1: to tell us how great this Israeli government is, and
41:34
Speaker 1: you're going to lie, lie, lie, while pretending to be journalists, right?
41:38
Speaker 1: And then you say, but hey, Jane, you've got to
41:40
Speaker 1: love Israel. No. Okay, so I love the idea of
41:44
Speaker 1: a country that is free and safe and et cetera,
41:46
Speaker 1: but that country cannot keep attacking its neighbors. That country
41:49
Speaker 1: cannot keep occupying other human beings. Do you know how
41:53
Speaker 1: much humiliations Palestinians have to go through?
41:55
Speaker 3: Oh, no, I agree.
41:57
Speaker 1: Every once in a while, they're coming to a town—
41:59
Speaker 1: They'll strip all the grown men to their underwear, put
42:02
Speaker 1: them in the middle of the street, and shackle just
42:06
Speaker 1: to humiliate them. They're doing systematic rape of women, men.
42:11
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're using dogs. New York Times reported that, and
42:13
Speaker 1: then they went nuts. How dare you report the truth once?
42:17
Speaker 1: Once you let Nicholas Kristof tell the truth. Again, Israeli
42:19
Speaker 1: human rights organizations saying this, Israeli doctors saying this, Israeli
42:23
Speaker 1: press saying this. There's no question that it's true, but
42:27
Speaker 1: our press is more biased than the Israeli press. And
42:29
Speaker 1: they go, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
42:31
Speaker 1: Don't report things that are true. Don't report them. That'll
42:34
Speaker 1: hurt beloved Israel. So why do I say beloved Israel? Hey, listen,
42:36
Speaker 1: until you act right, No, you're a pariah state. You're
42:39
Speaker 1: a rogue country. By the way, we started a war
42:42
Speaker 1: for you, Iran. Why are we in a war for you? Guys,
42:46
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense. Israel's the size of Papua
42:50
Speaker 1: New Guinea. Population's almost identical, right? Imagine if we were like,
42:54
Speaker 1: I'm a Papua New Guinea nationalist, and we just coincidentally
42:57
Speaker 1: started seven wars in the Pacific against all of Papua
43:01
Speaker 1: New Guinea's neighbors, and that costs us $ 8 trillion, right?
43:05
Speaker 1: and we want to start a new war, and by
43:07
Speaker 1: the way, we don't want Israelis dying, we want Americans dying,
43:10
Speaker 1: and we want Americans spending all their money on our wars.
43:13
Speaker 1: Iran's got nothing to do with us, nothing, zero. You said,
43:17
Speaker 1: tell me, nukes, you told me you already destroyed their
43:20
Speaker 1: nuclear facilities. I didn't say it, you said it. So
43:23
Speaker 1: if you destroy their nuclear facilities, and by the way,
43:26
Speaker 1: our intelligence operation said, Tulsi Gabbard said in Congress, that
43:31
Speaker 1: they definitely do not have a nuclear weapons program. They
43:34
Speaker 1: never had one, and then you destroyed it.
43:36
Speaker 3: That's right.
43:37
Speaker 1: And then you come back and tell me it's for
43:38
Speaker 1: the nukes. No, then it's not for the nukes. It's
43:41
Speaker 1: for Israel, and everybody knows it. Look, the Israeli lobby
43:44
Speaker 1: gave Trump over $ 300 million. Who are you kidding? Like
43:48
Speaker 1: the losers on CNN and at the New York Times,
43:52
Speaker 1: the liars. They just come out and go... No, that
43:56
Speaker 1: $ 300 million doesn't affect Trump.
43:58
Speaker 3: Come on, man.
43:59
Speaker 4: Also, Bibi does the same thing to Trump that you
44:01
Speaker 4: said he did to Clinton in the 90s. Every single time,
44:05
Speaker 4: you know, there's a, you might, hey, they're going to
44:07
Speaker 4: release something from the Epstein file.
44:09
Speaker 3: It feels like he does something that Bibi wants him
44:11
Speaker 3: to do. You'll see it in the news.
44:13
Speaker 1: It's always a correlation. Two different Middle Eastern leaders have
44:18
Speaker 1: said privately behind the scenes that got leaked out. Netanyahu's
44:22
Speaker 1: going around telling people, I'm the president of the U.S.
44:26
Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about the U.S. I got
44:27
Speaker 1: them completely locked down. Okay. I'm the president of America.
44:30
Speaker 5: Didn't you say that on The View, Charlie?
44:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said that on The View.
44:34
Speaker 1: Yeah.
44:34
Speaker 3: They said I was anti-Semitic.
44:36
Speaker 1: Well, Netanyahu's saying it, so now you're off the hook.
44:38
Speaker 3: Exactly.
44:39
Speaker 1: Okay. So, and look, everybody knows it. No matter who
44:43
Speaker 1: you elect, you get Netanyahu. Biden's like, oh, nice job
44:46
Speaker 1: on the genocide. Here's 21 billion dollars. Trump's like, nice
44:49
Speaker 1: job on the genocide. Here's 13 billion dollars. So there's
44:51
Speaker 1: two things you could be upset about. We're finding a
44:53
Speaker 1: genocide that's sick, that's morally reprehensible. So don't tell me
44:57
Speaker 1: about how Biden was a sweet old grandpa, right? Oh,
45:00
Speaker 1: he's just a regular Joe from Scranton. No, he gave
45:02
Speaker 1: them $ 21 billion to slaughter those people, okay? So now,
45:06
Speaker 1: so I'm like, I don't give a shit, Democrat or Republican.
45:09
Speaker 1: My job is to tell the truth, right?
45:11
Speaker 4: And also Netanyahu said on Israeli TV network, Channel 14,
45:16
Speaker 4: he told Israeli voters that he had spent close to
45:19
Speaker 4: 1,000 hours on American TV and use his intimate knowledge
45:22
Speaker 4: of US leaders to bring the US into the war
45:24
Speaker 4: against Iran.
45:25
Speaker 3: He said that out of his own mouth.
45:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, I brought them into the war with Iran. Now,
45:30
Speaker 1: isn't that like, that's what I'm saying. That's why how
45:31
Speaker 1: you could tell mainstream media is not objective because- When
45:35
Speaker 1: we say, when Charlemagne says it, he gets in trouble.
45:37
Speaker 1: When Netanyahu says, shut up, shut up, don't talk about it,
45:40
Speaker 1: don't cover the news, don't cover the news. You know,
45:42
Speaker 1: from the river to the sea, they're still crying about that.
45:44
Speaker 1: You know, the rest of the saying is from the
45:46
Speaker 1: river to the sea, Palestine will be free. They're like,
45:48
Speaker 1: how dare you want to be free? Then Netanyahu says,
45:52
Speaker 1: Israel's going to have everything from the river to the sea.
45:54
Speaker 1: But he says it like, we're going to take that territory.
45:57
Speaker 1: He used the same exact words, phrase. Media's like, that's okay.
46:01
Speaker 1: What do you mean that's okay? He's actually doing from
46:03
Speaker 1: the river to the sea, and he's actually murdering people
46:06
Speaker 1: to do from the river to the sea. So you
46:08
Speaker 1: objected to the Palestinians being free from the river to
46:11
Speaker 1: the sea, but when the Israelis are slaughtering from the
46:14
Speaker 1: river to the sea, you're good with it. You're good
46:15
Speaker 1: with it. No, that's not objective. That's not objective. You
46:18
Speaker 1: could tell. Why are you going to give Charlemagne a
46:20
Speaker 1: hard time for saying the same exact thing Netanyahu said?
46:22
Speaker 4: Well, I said that this is when they were saying
46:24
Speaker 4: that the war would be over. It was that week
46:26
Speaker 4: we were on the view, and I said, well, the
46:27
Speaker 4: war is not going to officially be over until Bibi
46:29
Speaker 4: Netanyahu says it.
46:30
Speaker 1: That's a fact.
46:30
Speaker 3: I don't care how many times Trump says it. It's
46:33
Speaker 3: not over until Bibi says it.
46:34
Speaker 1: Look, I'll go further than you. I think they got blackmailing.
46:39
Speaker 1: That's my best guess. That one I don't know. I'll
46:40
Speaker 1: tell you when it's a fact and when I'm speculating.
46:43
Speaker 1: But it doesn't make any sense. And Netanyahu is so
46:47
Speaker 1: sure that Trump, who's the most erratic wildcard guy anybody's
46:50
Speaker 1: ever met, if you said to me, like, hey, can
46:53
Speaker 1: you tell what Trump's going to do? No, because Trump
46:55
Speaker 1: doesn't know what he's going to do. But yet Netanyahu
46:57
Speaker 1: is positive. that he's got that brother on a leash, right?
47:01
Speaker 1: So how is he that positive? The money, no, no, no.
47:04
Speaker 1: Trump screws over his creditors all the time. Hey, the Adelsons,
47:07
Speaker 1: you gave me $ 300 million. A lot of suckers gave
47:10
Speaker 1: me a lot of money, right? That's not my business.
47:12
Speaker 1: I already took your money. I'm already president, right? So
47:15
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the money. So if it's not
47:17
Speaker 1: the money, and it's now driven him to the 20s
47:20
Speaker 1: in approval rating, it's destroyed his administration. It's America last.
47:25
Speaker 1: He claimed America first. He said no wars in the
47:28
Speaker 1: Middle East. He's doing a war in the Middle East.
47:29
Speaker 1: He's violating every single thing he said. So what do
47:33
Speaker 1: they have over him that makes him destroy his own presidency, right?
47:38
Speaker 1: My guess is it's thermonuclear. And guys, let's keep it real.
47:42
Speaker 1: He was friends with Epstein for decades. And he literally
47:46
Speaker 1: said on the record, Epstein likes them young. Like he
47:52
Speaker 1: knew and he's like, we were best friends. He likes
47:54
Speaker 1: them young. Now there's stories in the Epstein files about
47:57
Speaker 1: Trump and underage girls. And now we know for a
48:00
Speaker 1: fact Epstein recorded things. He had cameras, hidden cameras in
48:05
Speaker 1: the Kleenex boxes. By the way, our media is like, oh,
48:08
Speaker 1: videotape of the most powerful men on earth doing these
48:11
Speaker 1: terrible things. Well, we're not going to talk about it.
48:13
Speaker 1: We're not going to talk about it. I mean, shouldn't
48:15
Speaker 1: all the media be like, where's the videos? Where's the videos?
48:18
Speaker 1: We know there's videos. There was hidden cameras in the clocks.
48:21
Speaker 1: There was hidden cameras in the Kleenex boxes. There's hidden
48:23
Speaker 1: cameras everywhere. They're having sex with underage girls. They're the
48:27
Speaker 1: most powerful and wealthy people on earth. And you're telling
48:29
Speaker 1: me they didn't tape it? That they put the camera
48:32
Speaker 1: in the Kleenex box but didn't tape it? No, there's video.
48:36
Speaker 1: So where the fuck is the video? Okay? And all
48:40
Speaker 1: of our media and all of our government is covering
48:42
Speaker 1: up the videos. So who's on the videos? And who
48:45
Speaker 1: has the videos? Because somebody has the videos. And are
48:48
Speaker 1: they using those videos against those people? Of course they are.
48:51
Speaker 1: Why do you think they took the videos? So like
48:54
Speaker 1: they say such absurd things as if they're real. Like
48:57
Speaker 1: for example, I talked to any intelligence people, former CIA
49:01
Speaker 1: intelligence from other countries, interview them on the young Turks.
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Speaker 1: And I go, is a honeypot operation like wild, radical,
49:09
Speaker 1: crazy conspiracy theory, or is that something you guys normally do?
49:12
Speaker 1: Honeypot operation is you get some guy in a compromising
49:17
Speaker 1: position with a girl or boy, right? And then you
49:20
Speaker 1: use that as leverage against them. And every intelligence agent
49:23
Speaker 1: will tell you that's our go-to move. That's step one
49:26
Speaker 1: in our manual, right? We do honeypot operations all day,
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Speaker 1: every day, because it's so easy to get guys on sex, okay?
49:34
Speaker 1: And sex is the thing that's thermonuclear. Once you got
49:36
Speaker 1: them on a sex scandal, everybody hates them, especially women.
49:39
Speaker 1: And then his career is totally over. Okay. So, by
49:42
Speaker 1: the way, notice everybody who's been hit with a sex scandal.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
49:46
Speaker 1: Why did they get hit with that sex scandal? But
49:48
Speaker 1: more importantly, more interestingly, why didn't others get hit with
49:51
Speaker 1: a sex scandal? So, if you're a good boy, they
49:55
Speaker 1: don't release the tapes. If you're not a good boy, hey,
49:58
Speaker 1: look at that. Monica Lewinsky slept with Bill Clinton. Oh,
50:00
Speaker 1: you didn't release Jonathan Pollard. Well, we released the tapes,
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Speaker 1: didn't we? Okay. So, do they have blackmail? Of course
50:07
Speaker 1: they do. Are they likely to use it? I mean,
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Speaker 1: they'd be crazy if they didn't use it, right? What'd
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Speaker 1: you get the tapes for if you didn't use it?
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Speaker 1: But our government says, no, no tapes, no prosecutions. No
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Speaker 1: one did anything wrong. We won't arrest a single person. Look,
50:22
Speaker 1: I mean, look, this is really dark. And I, like
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Speaker 1: when you phrase it this way, it's kind of gut wrenching,
50:28
Speaker 1: but they let them rape our kids. Damn. Right. And
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Speaker 1: so now you want to be mad at someone, be
50:34
Speaker 1: mad at the CIA, be mad at our government, right?
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Speaker 1: Because it's one thing if a different government does it
50:39
Speaker 1: or a different actor or whoever does it. It's another
50:42
Speaker 1: thing when our government protects them. To this day, they're
50:46
Speaker 1: protecting the tapes. They're protecting the guilty. They haven't prosecuted
50:49
Speaker 1: a single one of those sons of bitches, right? That
50:52
Speaker 1: means the government is guilty. That's deep, man. Think about that.
50:55
Speaker 1: The government is guilty, and they're hiding it on purpose collectively, right?
51:01
Speaker 1: You tell me Epstein committed suicide in jail. Get the
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Speaker 1: fuck out of here, man. So the guards are off.
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Speaker 1: The camera in the hallway is all of a sudden
51:09
Speaker 1: not working. There's two different nooses. You know that there
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Speaker 1: was a noose he left behind and the noose he used. Sure. Sure. OK.
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Speaker 1: And all of a sudden we can't find the tape.
51:19
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden a guy winds up dead
51:21
Speaker 1: in a New York prison. And did you guys last
51:23
Speaker 1: thing on this?
51:24
Speaker 4: You know how when you're watching YouTube and you just
51:26
Speaker 4: go from topic to topic when you scroll?
51:28
Speaker 3: Yeah. That's sync.
51:31
Speaker 1: The topics just keep changing.
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Speaker 5: And the YouTube reacting people, they're going to have a
51:35
Speaker 5: time with this.
51:36
Speaker 1: Jake just goes and let him go. Hold on.
51:38
Speaker 3: Last thing because we got another guest.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So on Epstein, they say, no, don't believe your
51:45
Speaker 1: lying eyes. He committed suicide. Well, okay. Now, did you
51:50
Speaker 1: know that Epstein was part of Iran-Contra? So that's already
51:54
Speaker 1: proved by Dropside News, right? So he's the one. What
51:57
Speaker 1: they did was they brought in drugs to L.A. and
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Speaker 1: to different black communities, and that was part of Iran-Contra, right?
52:04
Speaker 1: But they had to clean out the airplanes that they
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Speaker 1: use because they're like, we don't want to be caught
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Speaker 1: with those planes that we brought the drugs in with.
52:11
Speaker 1: That's the CIA, right? So these are all established facts.
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Speaker 1: Nobody disputes them. And then what Dropside News found out
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Speaker 1: was the guy that did that plane laundering for them
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Speaker 1: was Jeffrey Epstein.
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Speaker 4: Hmm.
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Speaker 1: He switched out. He had Victoria's Secret because he was
52:26
Speaker 1: working with Les Wexner who owned Victoria's Secret. He had
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Speaker 1: Victoria's Secret buy those planes and then use them for
52:32
Speaker 1: their business purposes. And who was Epstein working for in
52:35
Speaker 1: that transaction? Israel. So the CIA has known since the
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Speaker 1: 1980s that Epstein is working with Israel and he's intelligence
52:46
Speaker 1: because there are no non-intelligence people in Iran contract. Like
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Speaker 1: a tourist doesn't walk in and be like, Oh, I
52:52
Speaker 1: have planes. CIA, you need planes? Right? No, that's intelligence.
52:57
Speaker 1: So our government has known for decades, and they're like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's okay. Let him keep raping.
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Speaker 3: Damn.
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Speaker 1: Cenk, you girl, ladies and gentlemen.
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Speaker 1: it so much.
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