Latest / The Tom & Gerry Show Podcast / Episode 122: All You Need Is Brains
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The Brain, a very interesting article inside all of our heads.
- 0:05Speaker 1: I often think about the brain like a firebox on
- 0:08Speaker 1: a traction engine. When steaming down the road, you'd be
- 0:12Speaker 1: going nowhere without your firebox charging. And I tell thee,
- 0:17Speaker 1: that's where I like to leave that metaphor. But, unfortunately,
- 0:22Speaker 1: a couple of middling lads down Singapore way have gone
- 0:26Speaker 1: ahead and Taking it a step further, shall we say.
- 0:31Speaker 1: On this week's episode of the Tom and Jerry Show,
- 0:33Speaker 1: the boys get rightly into it. Enjoy the show.
- 0:37Speaker 2: I'll see you.
- 0:44Speaker 3: Later. Hello everybody and welcome to the Tom and Jerry
- 0:48Speaker 3: Show with myself, Jerry McBride and Tom O'Mahony. If you
- 0:50Speaker 3: ever wonder how me and Tom start these shows or
- 0:53Speaker 3: You know, what our schedule looks like when we sit
- 0:55Speaker 3: down in the afternoon to record, Tom. It's very much
- 0:58Speaker 3: like you and me will just start chatting away for
- 0:59Speaker 3: like 20 minutes. And then at some stage go, oh, fuck,
- 1:02Speaker 3: we better hit record.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Quite literally, it turned into a podcast chat there back
- 1:06Speaker 2: and forth.
- 1:06Speaker 3: And it was like, ah, bollocks.
- 1:08Speaker 2: Right, let's get going.
- 1:09Speaker 3: We should record some of this. Some of it might
- 1:12Speaker 3: be good. Jesus Christ.
- 1:13Speaker 2: How are you holding it together, Gerry? All right. White
- 1:17Speaker 2: knuckling life as per usual.
- 1:19Speaker 3: I got to tell you, Tom, more and more as
- 1:21Speaker 3: time goes by, It's not that I need glasses. My
- 1:25Speaker 3: eyes demand them. Yeah.
- 1:27Speaker 2: I fluctuate. Remember we talked about it. Like I fluctuate.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Like today now.
- 1:30Speaker 3: Eyesight.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Unreal. Whatever.
- 1:32Speaker 4: And then.
- 1:33Speaker 3: Like over the weekend.
- 1:34Speaker 2: I could barely read. Road signs. And it would seem.
- 1:37Speaker 3: That I could barely read. Road signs.
- 1:38Speaker 2: Because I took. I did a thing. That I keep
- 1:41Speaker 2: on fucking meaning. Not to do.
- 1:43Speaker 3: I took.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Google Maps' advice. Going to a place.
- 1:47Speaker 3: That I knew how to get to. Craigna Manor. In
- 1:49Speaker 3: County Kilkenny.
- 1:50Speaker 2: Work out the mighty. Chris Kent.
- 1:51Speaker 3: At the weekend.
- 1:52Speaker 2: I know how to get there Gerard. Because. I spent
- 1:53Speaker 2: my childhood going there. My mother is originally from there.
- 1:55Speaker 3: Car drive there itself.
- 1:57Speaker 2: And I said, well, this one looks a good 10
- 2:00Speaker 2: minutes shorter. Sure, it can't be that bad. And didn't
- 2:02Speaker 2: properly look at the distance versus the time. The distance
- 2:07Speaker 2: and time were nearly the same, Ger. That's city driving,
- 2:09Speaker 2: if you ask me.
- 2:10Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 2:11Speaker 2: Like, you should be doing 100k in a minimum about
- 2:16Speaker 2: 40 minutes if it's country driving, 45, you know. No,
- 2:18Speaker 2: this is 60 for 60. I was like, what? What
- 2:21Speaker 2: the fuck does that mean? It means... I went up
- 2:24Speaker 2: roads that you wouldn't drive a bad horse. Like, what?
- 2:28Speaker 2: And then you get a certain point into it and
- 2:30Speaker 2: there's no getting back off it. You're like, well, here
- 2:32Speaker 2: we are now. I'm going to fucking... Fine, fine, County Kilkenny.
- 2:37Speaker 2: But fuck me, have you got roads with zero respect.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Zero respect for vehicular travel.
- 2:44Speaker 3: My internal GPS has taken me to places I wouldn't
- 2:47Speaker 3: go with a gun, Tom. Yeah.
- 2:49Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 2:50Speaker 3: Like, there's... I've done that before, yeah. Look at the
- 2:53Speaker 3: Google Maps and be like, nah, they don't know what
- 2:56Speaker 3: they're talking about. And now all of a sudden I'm like,
- 2:58Speaker 3: when did they pedestrianise this street?
- 3:00Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Last week?
- 3:02Speaker 3: No, I thought this was two-way traffic.
- 3:04Speaker 2: What the? Well, this is worse than that. Knowing my
- 3:08Speaker 2: route and still going, this shave's 10 minutes and I'm
- 3:11Speaker 2: kind of, I don't know what this place is like.
- 3:12Speaker 2: And of course, turns out the place was, I wasn't late, late, but,
- 3:16Speaker 2: and also the place was not a stickler. It was McDoyle's,
- 3:20Speaker 2: Abbey Lane, McDoyle's. Very cool venue. You'd like it. If
- 3:24Speaker 2: you walked into a chair, you're like, oh, I'd like
- 3:25Speaker 2: to play here. It's an upstairs of a barn.
- 3:29Speaker 1: And they have it.
- 3:30Speaker 3: Tell me more, Tom.
- 3:31Speaker 2: Adorned with mad shit. Like, there was a taxidermy swan
- 3:35Speaker 2: behind me. Like, a kid's drum set. There's any amount
- 3:40Speaker 2: of ancient fucking drink bottles. Like, all bits of machinery,
- 3:43Speaker 2: old farm machinery stuff stuck to the wall. Like, just...
- 3:47Speaker 2: But brilliantly, bringing sound, brilliant light. They get a lot
- 3:49Speaker 2: of good.
- 3:50Speaker 3: Artists down there. What was that thing in Phoenix Nights?
- 3:53Speaker 3: Remember Phoenix Nights?
- 3:54Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 3:55Speaker 3: It's a theme pub.
- 3:56Speaker 2: What's the theme?
- 3:57Speaker 3: Old shite.
- 4:00Speaker 2: Quite literally. Quite literally. But do you know what? It
- 4:02Speaker 2: was a lovely, lovely, lovely venue. It was great. It
- 4:05Speaker 2: was great. They've played us with sandwiches and all the
- 4:07Speaker 2: rest of it. And then Sunday I woke up with
- 4:09Speaker 2: an awful pain in my leg. And I don't know
- 4:11Speaker 2: if was that just I haven't hit the accelerator back
- 4:14Speaker 2: and forth. Ever did I want a time where I
- 4:16Speaker 2: was just like, can we just AI drive this fucking thing?
- 4:19Speaker 2: Christ above. I just, I'm done. I was giving up
- 4:22Speaker 2: on driving halfway through the journey, to be honest with you.
- 4:24Speaker 3: Well, you know what I'm going to tell you, Tom?
- 4:26Speaker 3: More on the AI and the war with the machines
- 4:29Speaker 3: a little later on in the show. But for new
- 4:31Speaker 3: listeners here, we're going to take you through what we
- 4:33Speaker 3: do here on the Tom and Jerry show. As Tom
- 4:35Speaker 3: was talking there, he is a comedian. In case you
- 4:37Speaker 3: thought he was on his way to a, I don't know,
- 4:39Speaker 3: a squeeze box gig or some other thing. No, no,
- 4:41Speaker 3: that's a comedy gig. I used to do that myself
- 4:45Speaker 3: from time to time. Still might if the price is right, Tom.
- 4:47Speaker 3: But for now, we're turning our talents, I guess you
- 4:50Speaker 3: could call them, to the podcasting world. Talents? Skills?
- 4:55Speaker 2: For now. We've been doing this for 10 years.
- 4:59Speaker 3: Well, we better do another wee bit. Let's launch into
- 5:01Speaker 3: the first bit of the show. It's the Weekly What
- 5:03Speaker 3: Have You.
- 5:04Speaker 2: This is a very complicated case, Maude.
- 5:06Speaker 3: You know, a lot of ins, a lot of outs,
- 5:07Speaker 3: a lot of what have yous.
- 5:09Speaker 2: And a lot of strands to keep in.
- 5:11Speaker 3: My head, man.
- 5:12Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:13Speaker 3: Lovely lovely I told you we'd be coming back round
- 5:15Speaker 3: to the war against the machines Tom which has taken
- 5:19Speaker 3: an unusual turn you have just informed.
- 5:21Speaker 2: Me it doesn't like we keep on saying it over
- 5:25Speaker 2: and over where there's one discovery after another where we're
- 5:27Speaker 2: like are people are scientists just watching like terrifying like
- 5:33Speaker 2: dystopian movies and going like are some of the scientists
- 5:36Speaker 2: just ringing up your man Charlie Brooker from Black Mirror
- 5:39Speaker 2: and going what do you reckon we should do next
- 5:42Speaker 2: And as it turns out, our demise is fucking coming
- 5:47Speaker 2: from every corner. But of course, AI is stressing everybody
- 5:50Speaker 2: out for so many reasons. But an Australian startup, Gas Bastards, decided.
- 5:57Speaker 3: You know where to go with this story but up, Tom. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 6:02Speaker 3: These lads decided, you know what?
- 6:04Speaker 2: Chips and all that, they take a load of cooling.
- 6:07Speaker 2: These data centers are eating a load of electricity. particle
- 6:10Speaker 2: labs they call themselves and they decided you know we'll
- 6:12Speaker 2: do we'll join up with a crowd over in asia
- 6:15Speaker 2: in singapore because the australians will probably go fucking what.
- 6:20Speaker 3: Honestly like you know we we say over in singapore
- 6:23Speaker 3: but for australia that's like us saying oh we joined
- 6:25Speaker 3: up with a crowd in scotland.
- 6:26Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah it's not a million miles away.
- 6:28Speaker 3: But But far enough for the purposes of this.
- 6:31Speaker 2: Yeah, laws can be different. Like, you know what I mean?
- 6:34Speaker 2: And they get shit done in all fairness to them
- 6:36Speaker 2: in Singapore. This company called Day One decided to join
- 6:39Speaker 2: up with them and it's a biological data center, Ger.
- 6:42Speaker 3: What could go wrong, Tom?
- 6:43Speaker 2: What could go wrong? And it's okay. You're like, well,
- 6:46Speaker 2: what are they doing? Are they using, you know, some
- 6:47Speaker 2: sort of, you know, tissue or something to power or
- 6:53Speaker 2: just to buffer a thing? No, they're straight up using
- 6:56Speaker 2: brain cells, Ger. Yeah, instead of chips, they're using human
- 7:02Speaker 2: cloned brain cells to drive their AI because they reckon
- 7:06Speaker 2: them fucking chips are a woeful price to keep cool
- 7:09Speaker 2: and a woeful price to keep power up to. Turns
- 7:13Speaker 2: out all you need every couple of days is some
- 7:15Speaker 2: fella to come in and just pump him with a
- 7:17Speaker 2: sugary gloop and the brain cells keep fucking going. Yeah.
- 7:23Speaker 3: All you need is brains.
- 7:24Speaker 2: That's all you need is brains. In the immortal words
- 7:27Speaker 2: of John Lennon, All you need is brains. And these
- 7:32Speaker 2: lads ain't seeing a single issue with it whatsoever.
- 7:35Speaker 3: They're like, of course.
- 7:36Speaker 2: It's 75% more efficient than the chip versions. So, you know. Okay.
- 7:42Speaker 3: As usual, Tom.
- 7:43Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:44Speaker 3: I have questions.
- 7:45Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:46Speaker 3: Now, first question is, are you fucking having me on here, buddy?
- 7:50Speaker 2: No. I mean, once it came out on social media,
- 7:53Speaker 2: they were like striking, chilling parallels to The Matrix, basically.
- 7:57Speaker 3: This is genuinely... I'll tell you exactly what this is.
- 8:01Speaker 3: This is a David Cronenberg film called Existence from, I think,
- 8:05Speaker 3: like 2001, where you had organic living computers that you
- 8:11Speaker 3: plugged your balls into. Yep. And then you went fucking
- 8:15Speaker 3: loco for coconuts. Yeah. Yeah. And they've decided, hey, if
- 8:19Speaker 3: it worked in that... Oh, by the way, nothing good
- 8:21Speaker 3: happened at the end of that. Everybody died, I believe.
- 8:24Speaker 3: And in The Matrix, I believe we all died. And
- 8:26Speaker 3: in Terminator... Humanity all dies. A lot of AI chiefs
- 8:31Speaker 3: came out last week and were like, hey, everybody, we're
- 8:33Speaker 3: going to... Paper won't refuse ink, Tom. So when you
- 8:36Speaker 3: see a billionaire saying he has enough money, something's wrong.
- 8:40Speaker 3: A lot of them come out and said, oh, yeah, guys,
- 8:42Speaker 3: we're going to kind of pump the brakes on the
- 8:44Speaker 3: AI now just for a minute. We're going to pump
- 8:45Speaker 3: the brakes on the data centers just for a minute.
- 8:47Speaker 3: You know, I think, you know, it's time we just
- 8:49Speaker 3: look at it. And that means like this thing is
- 8:52Speaker 3: cock and a punch that will kill us.
- 8:53Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. run away slow down this now is
- 8:58Speaker 2: you've you know you've you're push starting to the car
- 9:01Speaker 2: right and you've got the door open you're all by
- 9:03Speaker 2: yourself you're on a bit of a hill and you're
- 9:04Speaker 2: like should I just look I'll we'll push start it
- 9:06Speaker 2: then I'll jump in ram her into second and we'll
- 9:08Speaker 2: get it going no no you push the car and
- 9:11Speaker 2: the car has just chugged off and found its own
- 9:13Speaker 2: second gear and closed its own door yeah and driven
- 9:16Speaker 2: away off down the hill with a robotic hand sticking
- 9:19Speaker 2: out the window giving you the middle finger and you're like.
- 9:21Speaker 3: What yeah and also now it now it has turned
- 9:24Speaker 3: into um plane and flown off Tom okay so are
- 9:29Speaker 3: you kidding me with this because I had a whole
- 9:30Speaker 3: I had a couple of bits here for you that
- 9:33Speaker 3: these biological data centers like oh if you need water
- 9:36Speaker 3: to cool a data center then a biological data center
- 9:40Speaker 3: made from cloned human brains sure pour a wee bit
- 9:43Speaker 3: of beer on it, it'll keep it happy. But no,
- 9:46Speaker 3: you're saying they're actually pouring fucking viscous goop on these
- 9:48Speaker 3: things to keep them alive. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 9:50Speaker 2: A fella every three days has said basically they have
- 9:53Speaker 2: to come in and what's the mixture? Every three days,
- 9:55Speaker 2: lab techs feed the brain cells a cocktail of sugar,
- 9:58Speaker 2: micronutrients and pH buffers. A gas mixer pumps in carbon dioxide, oxygen, nitrogen,
- 10:03Speaker 2: providing dedicated life. So essentially the shit that keeps us alive.
- 10:07Speaker 2: They're pumping it into these little chambers where.
- 10:11Speaker 3: The little bits of brain.
- 10:12Speaker 2: And, you know, you go, oh sure, what have they
- 10:14Speaker 2: just won? Crang brain, you know, it's like something out of.
- 10:16Speaker 3: Is it just like one crank brain?
- 10:18Speaker 2: No, no, no. They've only done this 222,000 times, Jack.
- 10:22Speaker 3: So it's like a slurry of brain.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Sitting on their own little chip, all these little brains
- 10:27Speaker 2: sitting on their own chip or motherboard, we'll say, and
- 10:29Speaker 2: instead of a chip, they're finding a brain.
- 10:32Speaker 3: It's a bitter brain.
- 10:32Speaker 2: Bitter brain, because brain is top-end good gear when you
- 10:36Speaker 2: want to get it, you know. And you see, in
- 10:38Speaker 2: fairness to them, right, they said there's... you know, like
- 10:44Speaker 2: the chief executive of Cortical Labs, which is a chap
- 10:47Speaker 2: by the name of Catchy, Chong Hong Wang, he said, look, lads,
- 10:52Speaker 2: biological data centres are just better suited for applications where
- 10:55Speaker 2: data sets may be limited and where conditions are highly unpredictable.
- 10:59Speaker 2: So he's kind of suggesting, look, where you might need,
- 11:03Speaker 2: you know, a laser to sort out some... What I
- 11:06Speaker 2: have here, lads, is device scripts, the farmer's toolbox. That's
- 11:10Speaker 2: essentially what he's saying. You could come across any situation,
- 11:12Speaker 2: but if it's not highly technical, right now running a
- 11:16Speaker 2: human brain instead of a chip, way cheaper. And you
- 11:19Speaker 2: know what? In one way, it learns, it's taken off,
- 11:23Speaker 2: if you know what I mean. It learns simple facts
- 11:24Speaker 2: faster than, because a computer would overthink it. So what
- 11:27Speaker 2: he's saying is, look, for Maria, and he just throws
- 11:31Speaker 2: it out, he throws this out, mal champla. Look, there's
- 11:34Speaker 2: not enough data. In the real world to train humanoid
- 11:38Speaker 2: robots to do everything that we need the robots to
- 11:41Speaker 2: do using traditional servers. So that's where I come in.
- 11:45Speaker 3: Okay.
- 11:46Speaker 2: So I'm going to drive humanoid robots around your house.
- 11:50Speaker 2: And guess what they're going to be driven by, Ger?
- 11:52Speaker 2: Chunks of fucking brain. Yeah.
- 11:54Speaker 3: Do we know where we're getting this brain down?
- 11:56Speaker 2: They won't tell us.
- 11:57Speaker 3: Oh, good. Okay.
- 11:59Speaker 2: They won't. They're saying, look, it's... Because I've gone through
- 12:03Speaker 2: it and said, whose brains have they used? And they
- 12:04Speaker 2: just won't say whose bits of brain they've used. Because
- 12:07Speaker 2: it would seem they've cloned it, like I said, over 200,000 times.
- 12:10Speaker 2: They're just going, it's lab-grown neurons, guys, just sitting on
- 12:13Speaker 2: an electro-fixed silicon chip. Calm down. But there are now
- 12:20Speaker 2: plans to house up to 1,000 of these units. Yeah.
- 12:24Speaker 2: Following regulatory approval as well as energy efficiency and safety tests.
- 12:30Speaker 3: Oh, God forbid they don't have enough railings in the place. Tom,
- 12:33Speaker 3: do you know what this is here? Now, human brain
- 12:35Speaker 3: driving a sophisticated machine and nobody really knows where the
- 12:38Speaker 3: brain comes from. That's RoboCop, buddy. That's literally what RoboCop is.
- 12:44Speaker 2: Yeah, it's RoboCop. Or, I mean, probably if we looked
- 12:46Speaker 2: into Miles Silverberg.
- 12:49Speaker 3: Miles Bennett Dyson.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Dyson, yeah.
- 12:52Speaker 3: Not the Hoover man. Okay, so even the Terminator had the.
- 12:58Speaker 3: Had the good manners to just be a machine.
- 13:01Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 13:02Speaker 3: This is part man, part machine. This is RoboCop. Specifically,
- 13:06Speaker 3: it's like the robots in RoboCop 2 that just walked
- 13:09Speaker 3: into the room and clawed their metal off and it
- 13:12Speaker 3: was just like a screaming brain going like... Yeah.
- 13:16Speaker 2: That's where we're at right now. Yeah. And you see,
- 13:22Speaker 2: they only have a few customers right now using them.
- 13:25Speaker 3: Do you get me?
- 13:26Speaker 2: They only have... handful of companies who are using it
- 13:28Speaker 2: because they're like I don't know and plus you guys
- 13:30Speaker 2: can't drive much but look at for those companies that
- 13:33Speaker 2: do have a big ball of money around there what
- 13:36Speaker 2: they've done is they've just thrown their hat in the
- 13:37Speaker 2: ring look at we'll pay you the five grand a
- 13:41Speaker 2: month or whatever it is just to see let's have
- 13:43Speaker 2: a few balls running and we're obviously going to be
- 13:45Speaker 2: still using our AI over here but let's throw one
- 13:47Speaker 2: over your way and I'm thinking you know maybe it's
- 13:50Speaker 2: just like reading apps or whatever no.
- 13:57Speaker 3: This isn't making images of Will Smith eating pasta. No,
- 14:00Speaker 3: what the fuck is it doing? No, go on, tell me.
- 14:03Speaker 2: Arms companies are just leaving their toe in there, just going,
- 14:08Speaker 2: let's see what your little brain chips come up with.
- 14:11Speaker 2: Because of the speed AI's been growing at with these
- 14:13Speaker 2: fucking supercomputers and quantum computers, which have been able to
- 14:16Speaker 2: solve things that technically could never have been solved in
- 14:20Speaker 2: a trillion lifetimes. They're solving them in four minutes. let's
- 14:24Speaker 2: see what your brainy one does over there. That's going
- 14:26Speaker 2: to fucking grow emotions. And next thing you know, a
- 14:29Speaker 2: bicentennial man has said, at the end of your bed,
- 14:31Speaker 2: crying because he's murdered everybody in your fucking neighbourhood. And
- 14:35Speaker 2: he's going, why, Dave? My name's Jerry.
- 14:37Speaker 3: Dave. Why, Dave?
- 14:39Speaker 2: Okay, I'm Dave now, I suppose. Jesus fucking Christ.
- 14:44Speaker 3: I mean, that's when you start throwing handfuls of cocaine
- 14:47Speaker 3: into it. Just throw handfuls of cocaine into the slurry.
- 14:51Speaker 3: Of brain. And it's like. Computations. Computations. Computations. Got to computation. Yeah. Boy.
- 15:00Speaker 2: I'm a fucking legend of a robot.
- 15:03Speaker 3: Fucking crushed that computations boy.
- 15:04Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:06Speaker 3: Tom. What can I say? I was all ready to
- 15:10Speaker 3: hand over control to our robot overlords. Now I'm handing
- 15:13Speaker 3: over control to our mixed robot. Human brain. Smushed up.
- 15:19Speaker 3: Lad that went to Australia to work on the sites
- 15:22Speaker 3: and eventually got his head smushed up and shipped off
- 15:25Speaker 3: to Singapore and spread evenly like jam over a fucking
- 15:28Speaker 3: load of circuit boards.
- 15:30Speaker 2: Well, do you know what this is? You know what
- 15:32Speaker 2: comes from this, DC? All of a sudden, the Ethics
- 15:34Speaker 2: Committee comes into this. Because there was... I think there's
- 15:38Speaker 2: a couple of countries now, but I think the first
- 15:39Speaker 2: was either Albania or Kosovo was the first to have
- 15:43Speaker 2: an AI minister in government.
- 15:45Speaker 3: Like an actual.
- 15:46Speaker 2: One of the government... governmental roles as a ministerial role
- 15:50Speaker 2: was given to an ai robot and you're like okay
- 15:53Speaker 2: give it the fucking one for starting out the roads
- 15:55Speaker 2: because you know what that makes sense right but now
- 15:58Speaker 2: all of a sudden what you're going to have is
- 16:01Speaker 2: like a robot committee member standing up going actually um
- 16:06Speaker 2: i'm just going to shift my little robot tie there
- 16:08Speaker 2: i i'd like to be included in all the shit
- 16:11Speaker 2: you're talking about because i too have like this is
- 16:13Speaker 2: the tin man Essentially, Gerry, this is the fucking Tin
- 16:16Speaker 2: Man from Wizard of Oz. We're giving it a fucking
- 16:19Speaker 2: brain slash fucking heart or whatever that one wanted. And
- 16:22Speaker 2: that's what we've done. And of course, they mask this
- 16:24Speaker 2: all beautifully. Like the arms companies just.
- 16:27Speaker 3: Slipped in there.
- 16:28Speaker 2: No doubt it's Boeing or it's, you know, Skunk Works
- 16:31Speaker 2: or one of these ones snuck in there.
- 16:32Speaker 3: Lockheed Martin or whatnot.
- 16:33Speaker 2: Lockheed Martin, one of them in there, right? But this is,
- 16:37Speaker 2: they stick it in there just covering over the whole
- 16:40Speaker 2: thing by going, but you lads, you don't know. We
- 16:42Speaker 2: could find the cure to something.
- 16:44Speaker 3: Could be the cure to cancer in this one, yeah.
- 16:46Speaker 3: I've been hearing that for a while.
- 16:47Speaker 2: Yeah, but instead you're finding the cure to fucking how
- 16:50Speaker 2: to cure getting rid of an entire fucking race of
- 16:54Speaker 2: people from some part of the world.
- 16:57Speaker 3: I will tell you, Tom, I did like your idea
- 16:58Speaker 3: of it going into politics and if it did, if
- 17:02Speaker 3: it was an Australian company that made this and it
- 17:04Speaker 3: did make an awesome politician out of it, we'd be like, hello, Dave.
- 17:09Speaker 3: I'd like to inform you that I don't care what
- 17:12Speaker 3: people do in the comfort of their own home. May
- 17:16Speaker 3: a thousand blossoms bloom, Dave. But I'm not going to
- 17:20Speaker 3: spend any computational time on it. Because every day in
- 17:25Speaker 3: Northern Queensland, a person is torn to pieces by a crocodile, Dave.
- 17:32Speaker 3: May a thousand blossoms bloom.
- 17:34Speaker 2: Oh my God. Can you imagine handing this one to Bob?
- 17:36Speaker 2: Can you imagine handing this one over to Bob?
- 17:39Speaker 3: Jesus Christ you know there's nothing that man can't punch
- 17:43Speaker 3: fucking hell alright okay let's see how that works out
- 17:47Speaker 3: for humanity Tom but while those lads are at that
- 17:50Speaker 3: malfeasance there are other lads around the world doing other
- 17:53Speaker 3: things where he picked one of them every week we
- 17:56Speaker 3: pick one of them on the Tom and Jerry show
- 17:58Speaker 3: to talk about let's talk about it Tom let's talk
- 17:59Speaker 3: about this lad.
- 18:02Speaker 1: Now there's that guy this is one.
- 18:05Speaker 3: Of my favourite this lads Tom one of my favourite
- 18:09Speaker 3: uh types of this lad. Yeah. When we get an
- 18:12Speaker 3: event that has two very separate this lads. And you
- 18:16Speaker 3: can pick which one you want to talk about.
- 18:19Speaker 2: It's either the negative or the positive in this one.
- 18:21Speaker 4: Exactly.
- 18:23Speaker 3: So this lad could be Lane Arthur Lundeen. Mr. Lane
- 18:27Speaker 3: Arthur Lundeen who was a passenger on an American Airlines
- 18:32Speaker 3: flight last week. You know, who started kicking off. And
- 18:37Speaker 3: I got to tell you, if you're going to be
- 18:39Speaker 3: on an American Airlines flight kicking off, the early days
- 18:43Speaker 3: of September is probably not the time to do it.
- 18:49Speaker 3: If ever tensions were going to be high, now's the time.
- 18:52Speaker 3: But Airman Lane, he kicked off. He was a bit
- 18:55Speaker 3: of a diss lad. He's like kicking off. He's strangling
- 18:57Speaker 3: people beside him. He's yelling all sorts of, to say,
- 19:01Speaker 3: homophobic and racial slurs. So, One can quickly imagine what
- 19:05Speaker 3: that might have been that he was hooting and hollering
- 19:08Speaker 3: about Tom.
- 19:08Speaker 2: The full bouquet. Yeah, yeah.
- 19:10Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely everything. And he's shouting at everybody. He's shouting
- 19:14Speaker 3: at a rabbi on the plane. He's shouting at fucking everybody.
- 19:34Speaker 3: He did.
- 19:35Speaker 2: And you know what, though? The more and more I
- 19:37Speaker 2: see it, like, there's, we've talked about it before, I'm sure, like, the,
- 19:41Speaker 2: you know, the adorability of getting to, like, into your
- 19:43Speaker 2: 60s and 70s going, yeah, I don't give a fuck.
- 19:45Speaker 2: I'd say whatever's on my mind, which is fair enough. Like,
- 19:47Speaker 2: you know, I mean, on your own porch, let y'all. like, or,
- 19:50Speaker 2: you know, whenever. Side of a GA pitch, whatever. But
- 19:55Speaker 2: when you're on a fucking.
- 19:55Speaker 3: Plane, especially when you're in closed space, Tom, yeah.
- 19:58Speaker 2: An American Airlines plane. No, I mean, this go, we've
- 20:00Speaker 2: all come across a dose of shite, like on a plane,
- 20:02Speaker 2: you know, and you're going, oh, for fuck's sake, this
- 20:05Speaker 2: yoke kicking up. And there's like, if you've ever learned
- 20:08Speaker 2: that from the internet, When yanks kick off, their level
- 20:12Speaker 2: of self-indulgence in kicking off.
- 20:15Speaker 3: And self-belief, yes.
- 20:17Speaker 2: Self-belief. And you're like, you live in a country where
- 20:21Speaker 2: the education levels are through the fucking floor.
- 20:24Speaker 3: And there's not 10 of you get on with each other, so.
- 20:26Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. There isn't 10 of you get on with
- 20:28Speaker 2: each other. Every second fucker has a gun. Pipe the
- 20:32Speaker 2: fuck down. Clearly this guy was on an SSRI or
- 20:35Speaker 2: some fucking thing, or he was on fucking Jim Bean.
- 20:37Speaker 2: He kicked off hard on his plane.
- 20:39Speaker 3: Oh, he kicked off. And they did not have a
- 20:41Speaker 3: gun to hand. And what happened to air marshals? I
- 20:44Speaker 3: thought that was the thing. But here we are. There
- 20:46Speaker 3: was no way to restrain old Lundin. Except for the second.
- 20:50Speaker 3: This lad. The counter this lad, Tom. The ying to
- 20:53Speaker 3: this lad's this lad.
- 20:55Speaker 2: Ah.
- 20:56Speaker 3: A roll of duct tape.
- 20:57Speaker 2: A roll of fucking duct tape and a couple of canes.
- 20:59Speaker 3: A roll of duct tape. When all else fails, Tom,
- 21:03Speaker 3: duct tape will get the job done. The flight attendants
- 21:06Speaker 3: rushed this cranky old 67-year-old bastard. got him back down
- 21:10Speaker 3: to the seat, zip-tied his hands to the armrests, and then,
- 21:16Speaker 3: I mean, Spider-manned him in duct tape. Yeah, yeah. And
- 21:21Speaker 3: he sat his fucking ass down for the duration of
- 21:23Speaker 3: the flight.
- 21:24Speaker 2: Well, I know that, too, the lads, there was a
- 21:26Speaker 2: flight attendant, and I think there was two passengers as well.
- 21:29Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, everybody around him was doing their best to
- 21:32Speaker 3: sit down to fuck.
- 21:33Speaker 2: A guy by the name of Juan Maya And Richard Ulnick,
- 21:38Speaker 2: forced Richard to make a burst back for him because
- 21:40Speaker 2: he was like, fuck this, he's a former policeman. He
- 21:44Speaker 2: went down to kind of calm him down, having none
- 21:46Speaker 2: of it. Cable tied the fucker to the thing and
- 21:49Speaker 2: then they went, right, see where you are. And he's roaring,
- 21:52Speaker 2: screaming to get him off. Next thing, Juan lands back.
- 21:54Speaker 2: He's like, shut up the fuck. And he sat on him.
- 21:59Speaker 2: Juan sat on him. No, I, I, I. And he
- 22:02Speaker 2: stayed quiet for about 15 minutes and he went to
- 22:03Speaker 2: get off him again. And he starts back up again.
- 22:07Speaker 2: But one of the flight attendants went off and found
- 22:10Speaker 2: a good old fashioned carpet slash fucking box tape. Found
- 22:13Speaker 2: the duct tape. Duct taped him round the back of
- 22:16Speaker 2: the seat. And this was first class too, Gerard the Gunt.
- 22:18Speaker 3: This is, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 22:20Speaker 2: You fucking bastard. First class he was in on an
- 22:22Speaker 2: American Airlines from Houston to, was it Newark he was going.
- 22:26Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 22:26Speaker 2: And they taped the living fuck.
- 22:28Speaker 3: Out of him.
- 22:29Speaker 2: They taped the fuck out of him.
- 22:30Speaker 3: They cacooned him.
- 22:32Speaker 2: Like they said, or Richard was like, yeah, we didn't
- 22:36Speaker 2: do his mouth, you know, for fear of the breathing
- 22:37Speaker 2: or whatever. But that was a clear signal that I
- 22:40Speaker 2: had my fucking hand over his mouth for most of
- 22:41Speaker 2: the flight, I promise you, after that. But they did
- 22:44Speaker 2: do an emergency fucking land and never made the brake lag.
- 22:48Speaker 3: It is such a wonderful visual, Tom, to see. I mean, like,
- 22:51Speaker 3: you know, people kick off on flights all the time, man.
- 22:54Speaker 3: They very rarely get to be this lad. But it
- 22:56Speaker 3: was the fact that a toolbox legend such as Duck
- 23:00Speaker 3: Tip sprung to it and this man is like do
- 23:03Speaker 3: you ever see like lads at house parties might do
- 23:07Speaker 3: it they might duct tape someone to a door for
- 23:09Speaker 3: a laugh or duct tape someone their legs together for
- 23:11Speaker 3: a laugh if they fall asleep just duct tape them
- 23:14Speaker 3: together that's what they did with this son of a
- 23:15Speaker 3: bitch they made a mummy out of him they made Imhotep.
- 23:19Speaker 2: Out of this guy if you found out you were
- 23:21Speaker 2: the duct tape company that they used like you were
- 23:22Speaker 2: Gorilla or one of those or something you'd be all
- 23:24Speaker 2: fucking over this you'd be like get me everything you
- 23:28Speaker 2: can on this like fucking everything you can on how
- 23:31Speaker 2: But it turns out, and this is talking about one
- 23:33Speaker 2: of the flight attendants, apparently, apparently.
- 23:36Speaker 3: Yes.
- 23:36Speaker 2: Now, this might be just an American Airlines policy or whatever.
- 23:39Speaker 2: They keep cable ties, which we also love in this podcast,
- 23:42Speaker 2: cable ties, and rolls of duct tape for just such
- 23:45Speaker 2: a situation. Oh, you know, there's a cabinet of cable
- 23:49Speaker 2: ties and fucking duct tape or flexible handcuffs, as they
- 23:52Speaker 2: call them, fucking cable ties.
- 23:54Speaker 3: They're cable ties.
- 23:54Speaker 2: And they keep it for just such an occasion going,
- 23:58Speaker 2: what level are we at? Level three. Right, that's just handcuffs.
- 24:01Speaker 2: It's just a cable tie. He's gone to level five.
- 24:04Speaker 2: Get out the fucking duct tape.
- 24:06Speaker 3: You know, I'm delighted that they do keep duct tape
- 24:08Speaker 3: and cable ties on the plane for an occasion like this, Tom,
- 24:11Speaker 3: because I would hate to think what other occasion they
- 24:13Speaker 3: would keep cable ties and duct tape on the plane for.
- 24:16Speaker 3: It's like, oh, no, that's our keep the wing on
- 24:18Speaker 3: duct tape. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the cable ties just
- 24:21Speaker 3: in case the fucking throttle goes around like that. No, no,
- 24:24Speaker 3: it's for restraining, sons of bitches.
- 24:27Speaker 2: Yeah, you never want to open a cabinet accidentally in
- 24:30Speaker 2: the middle aisle or whatever and find the vice grips
- 24:32Speaker 2: fall out on top. You're like, what do you need
- 24:35Speaker 2: this for?
- 24:36Speaker 3: Yeah, well, why is this an essential thing here now?
- 24:40Speaker 2: So wing glue.
- 24:46Speaker 3: Wing you like. But Tom, it just goes to show
- 24:52Speaker 3: that duct tape is an essential part of any Facet
- 24:57Speaker 3: of life.
- 24:58Speaker 2: We've said it many times, like have yourself some good tape. Always.
- 25:01Speaker 3: I'm a hands turn away here now from, I think,
- 25:05Speaker 3: three rolls of duct tape in this house. I have
- 25:07Speaker 3: a roll of silver, a roll of black, and a
- 25:08Speaker 3: roll of white.
- 25:10Speaker 2: I got a very impressive outdoor one, waterproof one.
- 25:14Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
- 25:15Speaker 2: A green one.
- 25:16Speaker 3: Good tech.
- 25:16Speaker 2: Nice.
- 25:16Speaker 3: Good tech. Good tech. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's highly recommended.
- 25:20Speaker 3: And I'll tell you another thing. If you are, I'm
- 25:24Speaker 3: just going to say it, Tom. If you're a normal person, Yeah.
- 25:27Speaker 3: So not, you or I might use more duct tape
- 25:29Speaker 3: than anybody else just for the fucking routine. It's true.
- 25:32Speaker 3: It's true. Hawking around that we would do. But a general,
- 25:37Speaker 3: normal person, a humie, a roll of duct tape will
- 25:41Speaker 3: do you your life.
- 25:42Speaker 2: Keep it in the drawer.
- 25:43Speaker 3: Get the good stuff. The 50 meters in a roll,
- 25:46Speaker 3: you're never going to get through that.
- 25:48Speaker 2: The kind of one that it's fibrous and you can rip,
- 25:52Speaker 2: you can rip from, rip it sideways. You can rip
- 25:54Speaker 2: it sideways. Yeah. Give it three or four seconds to
- 25:56Speaker 2: get right tacky when it hits the air and then
- 25:57Speaker 2: that baby's going looking after you forever. You don't need to,
- 26:00Speaker 2: as Gerry said, you don't need to buy a rake
- 26:01Speaker 2: of different types or whatever.
- 26:02Speaker 3: No, one will do you.
- 26:04Speaker 2: That's us.
- 26:05Speaker 3: Yeah, I challenge the average household to use more than one,
- 26:08Speaker 3: maybe two rolls of duct tape in their 50-year lifespan.
- 26:11Speaker 3: You and I get through quite more than that.
- 26:13Speaker 2: It's true.
- 26:14Speaker 3: Fucking ripping and tearing, we need to be doing it.
- 26:16Speaker 3: And they got through it on American Airlines. They duct
- 26:18Speaker 3: taped the shit out of this man.
- 26:19Speaker 2: They didn't spare it. They had, as you said, the Imhotep,
- 26:22Speaker 2: the shit, like this was Toot and Cam on, like
- 26:24Speaker 2: they went from top to tail on this fucker. And they, like,
- 26:27Speaker 2: obviously they got the drink off him at that stage.
- 26:30Speaker 2: Can you imagine? Because they did, they had to deviate,
- 26:32Speaker 2: head down to Baltimore or whatever, which wouldn't be a
- 26:34Speaker 2: million miles off their target. So you're a couple hours
- 26:36Speaker 2: in and you're starting to sober up, like the level
- 26:40Speaker 2: of embarrassment. Like, you're just sitting there like, just see
- 26:45Speaker 2: you by the way you've absolutely pissed yourself at this
- 26:47Speaker 2: stage oh yeah yeah yeah yeah like and you but
- 26:50Speaker 2: they just you're going oh look I swear I'll be
- 26:52Speaker 2: granted you're not no they're going to be marvellous take
- 26:54Speaker 2: you off the plane huge fine you may never fly
- 26:56Speaker 2: again we take this shit seriously and you gotta sit
- 26:59Speaker 2: there as some kid looks over the seat in front
- 27:02Speaker 2: of you going and you thought I was a pain
- 27:08Speaker 2: in the hole look at you you old bastard.
- 27:11Speaker 3: Yeah, an update on our man Lundeen. He got sacked.
- 27:14Speaker 3: He was a realtor. I stress he was a realtor.
- 27:16Speaker 3: He was a vice president of a real estate company
- 27:20Speaker 3: and they sacked his ass straight away. And the FBI
- 27:23Speaker 3: are considering the incident and have yet to determine whether
- 27:26Speaker 3: or not federal charges will be filed. Because that is
- 27:28Speaker 3: the thing in America, Tom. It's one thing to commit
- 27:31Speaker 3: a crime in your own state. If you do it
- 27:34Speaker 3: across states, that's federal.
- 27:36Speaker 2: It's a federal crime. He could be seen as a terrorist.
- 27:38Speaker 2: He could do 10 years for it. Yep. And imagine
- 27:42Speaker 2: being the guy that just lost his rag on an
- 27:44Speaker 2: airplane and you're getting put into a federal prison.
- 27:47Speaker 3: You're put into fucking gen pop.
- 27:49Speaker 2: And some fella just, you know, with like a swastika
- 27:51Speaker 2: on his cheek is like, how would you like to
- 27:53Speaker 2: be mama tonight? You're like, oh, shit. Give me that
- 27:56Speaker 2: duct tape.
- 27:58Speaker 3: Get the fucking cable things. Behave yourself on planes. Two
- 28:02Speaker 3: things to be taken away from this, ladies and gentlemen,
- 28:04Speaker 3: before we move on. Behave yourself on airplanes. And I've
- 28:07Speaker 3: always been perfectly well behaved on an airplane. I have.
- 28:09Speaker 2: Christ. Christ.
- 28:11Speaker 3: Because flying in free, I'll tell you that much, I
- 28:13Speaker 3: don't need to be fucking the cause of it going wrong.
- 28:18Speaker 3: Behave yourself on an airplane and always carry a roll
- 28:21Speaker 3: of duct tape. Maybe don't carry a roll of duct
- 28:23Speaker 3: tape on a plane. That's not a good look. Yeah.
- 28:25Speaker 3: They've got duct tape on the plane.
- 28:27Speaker 2: Yeah. You don't need to bring your own. You just
- 28:29Speaker 2: leave yours either in a nice little cabinet underneath the
- 28:31Speaker 2: sink or find a watchmaker and always, always, when you
- 28:35Speaker 2: see them cheap, pick up a couple of various sizes
- 28:39Speaker 2: of cable ties.
- 28:40Speaker 3: Definitely so. Definitely so. Things to remember as you go
- 28:43Speaker 3: forward in life. But as we go forward in life,
- 28:45Speaker 3: we think about the things from previous instances in life.
- 28:49Speaker 3: We remember back to the days, Tom, when you and
- 28:51Speaker 3: I were young men on the final segment of the show.
- 28:54Speaker 3: It's a segment we call We Remember When. When I
- 28:58Speaker 3: was a young lad, 20 or 30 or 40 years ago.
- 29:02Speaker 3: Pour a quart of oil on the concrete, Tom. Pour
- 29:07Speaker 3: a sip of diesel out. Yeah.
- 29:10Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 29:11Speaker 3: For the late, great Peter Cullen, who died a couple
- 29:13Speaker 3: of weeks ago, the same week as Dolly Parton. Fuck me,
- 29:16Speaker 3: I'll tell you, that was a rough week to be
- 29:18Speaker 3: a child of the 80s, I'll tell you that much.
- 29:20Speaker 2: There was a few people who went.
- 29:21Speaker 3: Who else went?
- 29:22Speaker 2: I'll send you on some.
- 29:22Speaker 3: Tim Curry went.
- 29:23Speaker 2: Tim Curry went as well.
- 29:23Speaker 3: Tim Curry, Dolly Parton, and Peter Cullen, like, one after
- 29:30Speaker 3: the other, I'll tell you that much. Peter Cullen, if
- 29:32Speaker 3: you don't know who he is, ladies and gentlemen, Peter
- 29:34Speaker 3: Cullen was the voice of Optimus Prime in the.
- 29:40Speaker 2: For me... Transformers.
- 29:43Speaker 3: Yeah, he was.
- 29:44Speaker 2: And he would have done an awful lot of the
- 29:47Speaker 2: 80s coming this summer. You know, he was that guy
- 29:50Speaker 2: as well.
- 29:50Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 29:51Speaker 2: But very importantly for me, he was also the... He
- 29:56Speaker 2: was the baddie car in Knight Rider.
- 30:00Speaker 3: Right. Yeah. Goliath.
- 30:02Speaker 2: He was a.
- 30:04Speaker 4: Oh, no, no.
- 30:04Speaker 3: Goliath was the truck. Who's the baddie car?
- 30:06Speaker 2: Car.
- 30:06Speaker 3: K-A-R.
- 30:07Speaker 2: Car. K-A-R.
- 30:08Speaker 3: He was the even.
- 30:09Speaker 2: Counterpart to Kate.
- 30:10Speaker 3: Fucking hate that thing. Yeah. Goliath was the big truck.
- 30:13Speaker 3: He was a voice actor and a great man. And
- 30:16Speaker 3: we wanted to give him a shout out. We missed
- 30:17Speaker 3: him when Dolly passed away there. We came back round
- 30:20Speaker 3: here because he was the voice of Optimus Prime. And
- 30:23Speaker 3: Optimus Prime was, not for nothing, myself and Tom are
- 30:26Speaker 3: children of the 80s. So Transformers was big news. Yeah. Now,
- 30:31Speaker 3: we've always said on the Tom and Jerry show that
- 30:33Speaker 3: the final segment we remember when would never just be
- 30:36Speaker 3: as simple as us sitting around like, hey, do you
- 30:38Speaker 3: remember Transformers? Yeah. Do you remember Mask? Yeah. Hey, do
- 30:40Speaker 3: you remember Bravestar? So, we do remember all these things.
- 30:45Speaker 3: We remember them fondly, but another thing we remember, Tom,
- 30:48Speaker 3: is that we were alive in the 80s when all
- 30:52Speaker 3: of a sudden cartoons stopped being the Flintstones and the
- 30:56Speaker 3: Jetsons and, uh, you know, Looney Tunes and Bugs Bunny
- 31:02Speaker 3: and all this kind of shit. And people copped on
- 31:04Speaker 3: to the fact that, hey, you know what? If children
- 31:06Speaker 3: are watching cartoons, we can just make toys of everything.
- 31:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 31:11Speaker 3: We didn't notice it at the time because we were children. I...
- 31:17Speaker 3: It was a thing that happened in front of our
- 31:20Speaker 3: very eyes.
- 31:20Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It really did. The merchandising of stuff,
- 31:24Speaker 2: it wasn't a thing prior to that. Prior to... Like,
- 31:28Speaker 2: there was a... There's a TV show, if anybody wants
- 31:30Speaker 2: to watch it, how basically they came up with He-Man.
- 31:33Speaker 2: And it was nearly a joke thing. It was just
- 31:37Speaker 2: a flog. Action figures. That's what He-Man was. Such a
- 31:42Speaker 2: shite name. It literally was.
- 31:45Speaker 3: Ram-Man.
- 31:46Speaker 2: Ram-Man.
- 31:47Speaker 3: What does he do? He rams, fair enough.
- 31:49Speaker 2: So it wasn't a thing prior to that. As you said,
- 31:51Speaker 2: there was the old, oldie-worldie cartoons that kind of stuck.
- 31:56Speaker 2: Stuck the course of time into Jetsons and there was the.
- 31:58Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you had Top Cat and Yogi Bear
- 32:00Speaker 3: and all this sort of stuff.
- 32:01Speaker 2: And nothing more came from it. Like, they were like, well,
- 32:03Speaker 2: that's that and I'm going to walk away. But the
- 32:05Speaker 2: opportunity to own Top Cat or, you know.
- 32:08Speaker 3: Yogi Bear or.
- 32:09Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, catch the pigeon. That was not a thing, like.
- 32:13Speaker 3: So I'll tell you what kind of was the genesis
- 32:15Speaker 3: for all this, Tom, was when Star Wars came out
- 32:17Speaker 3: in 1977 and started making a whole bunch of toys
- 32:20Speaker 3: for it and they fucking flew off the shelves and
- 32:22Speaker 3: made millions and millions of dollars for all concerned. Up
- 32:26Speaker 3: to that point, you know, Toys for Poison, you could
- 32:31Speaker 3: get G.I. Joes, as they were called, or Action Men
- 32:33Speaker 3: over in England. But it was really like a Barbie,
- 32:35Speaker 3: you know what I mean? There was no story to it.
- 32:37Speaker 2: But they came prior. They were their own stand-alone thing.
- 32:41Speaker 2: They came prior to any TV show after them, you know.
- 32:44Speaker 4: What I mean?
- 32:45Speaker 3: And then they realised, oh shit, kids love Star Wars.
- 32:49Speaker 3: And then we made toys of the Star Wars and
- 32:51Speaker 3: the kids just fucking bought them left, right and centre.
- 32:54Speaker 2: So who was the genius behind merchandising all the characters
- 32:57Speaker 2: on Star Wars? Because that, again, wasn't.
- 32:59Speaker 1: Really anything else.
- 32:59Speaker 3: Well, that was Lucas himself and they gave him it
- 33:01Speaker 3: for nothing. Yeah, yeah. He was like, I believe like
- 33:04Speaker 3: he waived some fee. He was like, well, I'll not
- 33:07Speaker 3: take it as cash. I'll take the merchandising rights for
- 33:10Speaker 3: the toys of it. And they were like, yeah, fucking sure. Sure, whatever.
- 33:14Speaker 2: It's like they had like a billion dollars out of it.
- 33:16Speaker 2: The Alec Guinness story, isn't it?
- 33:18Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
- 33:20Speaker 2: Where he was like, oh, fuck, he didn't want to
- 33:22Speaker 2: do it at all. And his family wants him. Some
- 33:24Speaker 2: members of his family were like, I know he's a
- 33:26Speaker 2: good lad. You should do it for Lucas. And this
- 33:28Speaker 2: other fella involved, he's good. Yeah, yeah. Grand. But I
- 33:31Speaker 2: tell you what, there won't be a fucking bean out
- 33:33Speaker 2: of it. So put me down for a percentage there.
- 33:36Speaker 3: Put me down for a percentage of that, yeah. Oh,
- 33:37Speaker 3: Jesus Christ.
- 33:39Speaker 2: Fuck.
- 33:40Speaker 3: A few short years after 1977 when all this is
- 33:43Speaker 3: blowing up everybody started saying sweet let's do it again
- 33:47Speaker 3: we've got a captive audience of kids watching shit on
- 33:49Speaker 3: TV and we've got a whole bunch of toys and
- 33:51Speaker 3: all we've got to do is put the two of
- 33:52Speaker 3: them together it's literally a 20 minute ad for toys
- 33:56Speaker 3: boys and girls they'll see it on TV they'll see
- 33:58Speaker 3: it they'll want it and they'll buy it they'll buy
- 34:01Speaker 3: it off the shelves and that happened in front of
- 34:03Speaker 3: our very eyes in actual fact Tom we talked about
- 34:05Speaker 3: Peter Cullen there from Transformers Transformers started off as just
- 34:09Speaker 3: toys yeah oh did it it was toys first was
- 34:11Speaker 3: it it was toys in japan and they weren't all
- 34:13Speaker 3: by the one company like one company made a uh
- 34:17Speaker 3: it was basically like a real fad like a rubik's
- 34:19Speaker 3: cube it was like you could turn a transform a
- 34:22Speaker 3: lorry into a robot or a good into a robot
- 34:24Speaker 3: or a fucking whatever it was and then crowd came
- 34:28Speaker 3: along bought bought up the rights to them all put
- 34:31Speaker 3: them all together and that's why the transformers when you
- 34:33Speaker 3: look at it it's a fucking mixed from gathering of
- 34:35Speaker 3: Every fucking thing. One lad turns into a tape player
- 34:38Speaker 3: and one lad turns into an airplane and one lad
- 34:40Speaker 3: turns into a fucking microscope.
- 34:43Speaker 2: Some fella's got a raw deal.
- 34:44Speaker 3: They're like, huh? What the fuck am I? What the
- 34:47Speaker 3: fuck am I doing here?
- 34:48Speaker 4: Starscream.
- 34:48Speaker 2: Starscream flying overhead. You're like, I'm a fucking ninja blender. Like,
- 34:52Speaker 2: when did that... You said ninja. I thought, ah, here.
- 34:55Speaker 3: When you look at it, it's real.
- 34:57Speaker 2: It's real.
- 34:57Speaker 3: Apparently, it's like, you know, how come some of these
- 34:58Speaker 3: cunts are dinosaurs? It's like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. We threw
- 35:03Speaker 3: them all together, but you couldn't, you could put them
- 35:05Speaker 3: all on the shelf and nobody would want them. But
- 35:07Speaker 3: what you do, Tom, is you get all this fucking
- 35:08Speaker 3: mixed from gathering stuff together and you make a cartoon
- 35:12Speaker 3: and all of a sudden give everybody new names. And
- 35:15Speaker 3: that's not Convoy, the Lurie, that's Optimus Prime. He's the
- 35:19Speaker 3: leader of these robots. And that's not Gunman, that's Megatron.
- 35:24Speaker 3: And he's this, and you make a story and you
- 35:26Speaker 3: put it out there in the mornings and kids watch
- 35:28Speaker 3: it and they love it and they buy the toys.
- 35:31Speaker 3: And kids watched and they loved and they bought the toys.
- 35:33Speaker 3: And then He-Man is around about the same time. Same
- 35:36Speaker 3: crack again, as you say yourself there, Tom, just put
- 35:38Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff together, stick them out with some
- 35:41Speaker 3: Maria made up story. Shit out a load of plastic
- 35:46Speaker 3: toys and kids buy them. And everyone's like, sweet, we
- 35:49Speaker 3: make ads for toys, 20 minutes long, put them out
- 35:52Speaker 3: in front of kids and they'll just buy them off.
- 35:54Speaker 3: And that's when like, you know, even the US government
- 35:56Speaker 3: had to stand in and go like, whoa yeah yeah
- 36:00Speaker 3: yeah we love money but this can't fucking possibly be
- 36:04Speaker 3: legal yeah these kids like and we were them tom
- 36:09Speaker 3: we were the kids that were five and six and
- 36:11Speaker 3: seven years of age we did not know the difference
- 36:13Speaker 3: between an ad and a tv show of course so
- 36:18Speaker 3: we watched like 20 minutes of the thundercats kicking ass
- 36:20Speaker 3: and i was like i'll tell you what i gotta
- 36:24Speaker 3: get a fucking lion.
- 36:24Speaker 2: Oh yeah Meanwhile, your mother's ordering flooring for the kitchen gun.
- 36:28Speaker 2: I think you'll be happy enough. Well, we've got coming
- 36:30Speaker 2: next week.
- 36:34Speaker 3: But that's it. I mean, like, you know, it showed
- 36:36Speaker 3: up on TV and then we were like, fuck, I
- 36:38Speaker 3: know what I'm asking Santi for. It really. And that
- 36:45Speaker 3: seemed like super insidious and like it was not cool.
- 36:49Speaker 3: But at the same time, we as kids, we were
- 36:51Speaker 3: just like, I would fucking stab you right now for
- 36:53Speaker 3: Castle Grayskull.
- 36:54Speaker 2: I sent you on a video purely on the basis
- 36:56Speaker 2: of this Saturday morning. It was from a couple of
- 36:58Speaker 2: weeks ago, himself's birthday. He got this off his grandmother.
- 37:01Speaker 2: And like all buys, buys don't change. I don't, I'm
- 37:04Speaker 2: sure girls don't change either, but buys don't change. Muscles
- 37:08Speaker 2: and fellas with swords, it's class. And himself mad for
- 37:12Speaker 2: him and on lands the mother with this Castle Grayskull grandmother.
- 37:16Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck, I can't help tonight. She must have
- 37:18Speaker 2: fucking remortgaged the place for this thing. About 60 quid, Ger. Yeah.
- 37:21Speaker 2: And the fucking thing has a retractable fucking gangway. I
- 37:25Speaker 2: sent the whole thing onto Ger where you stick the
- 37:27Speaker 2: sword in here and the fucking thing lights up.
- 37:30Speaker 4: Like, I would.
- 37:31Speaker 3: Amazing piece of kit.
- 37:32Speaker 2: If I had this, and this back in the day,
- 37:34Speaker 2: if there was such a thing, now there was Castle Grayskull,
- 37:36Speaker 2: but to no standard of this. but it would have
- 37:39Speaker 2: cost you the price of a Ford Orion back then.
- 37:41Speaker 3: Do you know what it probably, it would have cost
- 37:43Speaker 3: you 60 pounds back then, but 60 pounds back then
- 37:46Speaker 3: is like 300 euro back then, the price of a PlayStation.
- 37:48Speaker 2: And this is the crack, and you're going, what in
- 37:51Speaker 2: the name of Jesus, tonight, divine. But all their prayers
- 37:54Speaker 2: are answered now. You look at a thing like, the
- 37:56Speaker 2: most ludicrous song-based shite from this thing, Brain Rot, that's
- 38:02Speaker 2: doing the rounds at the minute. I don't understand it.
- 38:04Speaker 2: It's this kid's fucking, I don't.
- 38:07Speaker 3: Know what's going on. Or familiar with it in the house, yeah.
- 38:09Speaker 2: And you're going, well, did you just make that? At first,
- 38:12Speaker 2: I was like, did he just make that up? Or is... No, genuinely,
- 38:16Speaker 2: the skippity toilet is a thing that I'm like, what
- 38:18Speaker 2: in the fuck? And I'm like, what is going on here?
- 38:21Speaker 2: And we're in the toy shop and lo and behold,
- 38:22Speaker 2: there's a toilet with a bloke's head sticking out of it.
- 38:24Speaker 2: It's called skippity toilet, 70 euro. I went, what?
- 38:27Speaker 3: 70 euro?
- 38:28Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, Ger. No, this was crackers.
- 38:30Speaker 3: Oh, no, get the fuck.
- 38:32Speaker 2: Versus.
- 38:33Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 38:34Speaker 2: So you know what I mean?
- 38:34Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 38:35Speaker 2: But what I... I'm just.
- 38:38Speaker 2: In addition to what you're saying like the difference in
- 38:40Speaker 2: a toy shop now is it's all the like so
- 38:43Speaker 2: many of the aisles are not original toys they're just
- 38:46Speaker 2: deviated from TV shows whereas before you know there was
- 38:50Speaker 2: a whole aisle of fun sports things or Just toys
- 38:55Speaker 2: that were toys. They didn't have any affiliation to a
- 38:57Speaker 2: TV show.
- 38:58Speaker 3: They weren't merchandise. I suppose that's the point of this
- 39:01Speaker 3: whole thing, isn't it?
- 39:02Speaker 2: Sure, Lego was just Lego. And now there is no
- 39:05Speaker 2: just Lego. You can't. It's next to impossible to get
- 39:07Speaker 2: just Lego. All the Lego is either, if it's not Minecraft,
- 39:10Speaker 2: it's Star Wars.
- 39:12Speaker 3: It's Jurassic Park.
- 39:13Speaker 2: Harry Potter. Everything is associated with the ad that is
- 39:17Speaker 2: the TV show now. So, Tom.
- 39:20Speaker 3: So how do we bring that around to today? And
- 39:22Speaker 3: who's driving all these things? I mean, like, you know,
- 39:24Speaker 3: we've said it several times on the Tom and Jerry show.
- 39:27Speaker 3: If people weren't buying these things, they wouldn't be making them.
- 39:29Speaker 3: That's the as that. If people weren't going to see
- 39:32Speaker 3: these certain things, they wouldn't be produced. Blah, blah, blah.
- 39:36Speaker 3: If we weren't using duct tape to stick drunk fuckers
- 39:40Speaker 3: onto planes, they wouldn't be selling duct tape to American airlines.
- 39:44Speaker 3: It's just paper won't refuse ink. So I put it
- 39:48Speaker 3: to you. That we, you and I, as children of
- 39:52Speaker 3: the 80s, had such a fucking number done on us
- 39:55Speaker 3: in our formative sponge brain years. And the first 10
- 39:59Speaker 3: years of our life were just bombarded constantly with ads
- 40:03Speaker 3: for things that, Tom, not many of us got to have. No.
- 40:08Speaker 3: I did not have, personally, a big Castle Grayskull.
- 40:12Speaker 2: Nor I.
- 40:13Speaker 3: I had a USA biscuit tin box that served as
- 40:17Speaker 3: my Castle Grayskull and it was defended. by one Thundercat,
- 40:22Speaker 3: two bad guys from He-Man who had turned good for
- 40:25Speaker 3: the purposes of this bit, and a B.A. Baracus.
- 40:28Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 40:29Speaker 3: You put together what you had and made up your
- 40:31Speaker 3: little leagues and made your little stories about them. But now,
- 40:35Speaker 3: as you said yourself, you can get a tie of
- 40:37Speaker 3: any fucking thing. Like, something that glanced past the screen
- 40:42Speaker 3: on an episode of Star Wars or whatever like that
- 40:43Speaker 3: is like, yeah, you can get 10 different ties of them.
- 40:46Speaker 3: in all different places with different knapsacks and shit like this.
- 40:48Speaker 2: It would be remiss of any TV show maker for kids,
- 40:54Speaker 2: cartoon or real life, to not have a toy ready
- 40:59Speaker 2: lined up. Like, you'd be guaranteed.
- 41:00Speaker 3: Leaving money on the table.
- 41:01Speaker 2: You'd be guaranteed at the storyboard, you know, where they go, well,
- 41:04Speaker 2: what does this Optimus Prime you're telling me about, what's
- 41:06Speaker 2: he look like? You're going, uh-huh, here is a catalogue
- 41:09Speaker 2: of all of them. Get them fucking made. And let's
- 41:12Speaker 2: see prototypes before we even go to film with this thing. Okay,
- 41:16Speaker 2: so we're releasing both at the same time. No, no,
- 41:18Speaker 2: we're going to put the fucking toys out at the
- 41:19Speaker 2: same time as the trailer.
- 41:21Speaker 3: Oh, it's a long story thing. Even like you reckon,
- 41:24Speaker 3: you know, when they're making the new Spider-Man film, it's like,
- 41:26Speaker 3: do you know what? If you put the Incredible Hulk
- 41:30Speaker 3: in this, you could sell a load of Incredible Hulk
- 41:33Speaker 3: toys in this.
- 41:34Speaker 2: Yeah, because we've a rake of them sitting in a warehouse.
- 41:36Speaker 3: We'll write that. So at some stage, Spider-Man meets the
- 41:39Speaker 3: Incredible Hulk in the middle of it. You know, like,
- 41:41Speaker 3: But again, people are buying these things. And I have
- 41:43Speaker 3: a funny feeling, Tom, it's people like you and me
- 41:46Speaker 3: that had such a fucking number done on us by
- 41:50Speaker 3: advertising straight into our little lizard brains back then. Granted,
- 41:56Speaker 3: we've grown out of it. We're not buying toys for
- 41:58Speaker 3: ourselves these days. But if we see something for the kids,
- 42:00Speaker 3: it'd be like, oh, we'll get you that.
- 42:02Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 42:04Speaker 3: And I dare say, Tom, there's plenty of it. I
- 42:06Speaker 3: know you and I don't go browsing the aisles of
- 42:09Speaker 3: Smith's Toy Store for ourselves. Plenty of grown-ass men and
- 42:13Speaker 3: women that do. Man and man. Dude.
- 42:18Speaker 2: I had an uneasy feeling the day of his... Remember
- 42:21Speaker 2: we were telling you about the circus? Well, we had
- 42:22Speaker 2: time to kill just before between the grub and on
- 42:26Speaker 2: the way there there's a smith. He could pick out
- 42:28Speaker 2: one thing and he only went for a little thing
- 42:30Speaker 2: for a finish but I was like this uneasy feeling of...
- 42:34Speaker 2: And I'm just going to straight up say it. Creepy motherfuckers.
- 42:37Speaker 2: Male and female, right? Walking around and he did... I'm going, okay,
- 42:40Speaker 2: maybe you're buying for our niece or nephew or something.
- 42:42Speaker 2: But there was like, there.
- 42:43Speaker 3: Was a vibe. You're buying this for yourself.
- 42:46Speaker 2: There's a fucking vibe.
- 42:47Speaker 3: And you know what? To go back to our man,
- 42:49Speaker 3: Bob Catter, let a thousand blossoms bloom, right? You're a
- 42:53Speaker 3: working man. You're a working woman. It's your money. Do
- 42:57Speaker 3: whatever the fuck you want with it. If you want
- 42:59Speaker 3: to say, I want to turn around and buy a
- 43:01Speaker 3: Starscream that week, Mazel Tov. Fucking go nuts.
- 43:05Speaker 2: All right.
- 43:06Speaker 3: But I promise you, Tom, That is some wee want
- 43:09Speaker 3: that's in you. That you wanted it as a child.
- 43:13Speaker 3: You didn't get it. And now you're grown up and
- 43:15Speaker 3: you can buy it with grown up money.
- 43:16Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 43:16Speaker 3: It's your money. Decide what you do with it. But
- 43:19Speaker 3: that's not a thing that was around when we were young.
- 43:22Speaker 2: It's not.
- 43:22Speaker 3: No.
- 43:23Speaker 2: You know, your.
- 43:24Speaker 3: Dad buying a fucking vintage G.I. Joe that he didn't have.
- 43:30Speaker 3: Not a thing.
- 43:30Speaker 2: The old fellas attempted to get into every so often.
- 43:35Speaker 2: What do they call it? Something fix. You know, the
- 43:38Speaker 2: The air fix, yeah.
- 43:39Speaker 3: Air fix.
- 43:40Speaker 2: And he's made one or two, but he's like, oh yeah.
- 43:43Speaker 2: And I think he got them because he'd talked about
- 43:45Speaker 2: them from his childhood because he didn't have them as
- 43:47Speaker 2: a kid. And he's put one or two of them
- 43:49Speaker 2: together and he's like, you know by him, he's like, yeah, no,
- 43:52Speaker 2: that's fine.
- 43:52Speaker 3: Yes, I can. That's amazing though, Tom, actually. There's me,
- 43:56Speaker 3: we've had to bury in a whole segment of Tom
- 43:58Speaker 3: and Jerry's show saying that this was a thing from
- 44:00Speaker 3: the 80s, but maybe it's just like our lads in
- 44:02Speaker 3: general coming back around going like, ah, you know what?
- 44:05Speaker 3: I didn't have a Meccano when I was wee, maybe
- 44:07Speaker 3: I'll get a Meccano for now. So, yeah, as we
- 44:10Speaker 3: say in the Tom and Jerry show, let a thousand
- 44:12Speaker 3: blossoms bloom. It's your money. Do whatever you want with it.
- 44:15Speaker 3: And not for nothing, Tom, I can't say that I
- 44:17Speaker 3: don't have at least two Transformers up here that I've
- 44:20Speaker 3: seen pooching through a grab bag at some jumble sale
- 44:24Speaker 3: or some such. And I was like, fuck it, actually, Dwayne,
- 44:25Speaker 3: I'll have that. So I will. There's a wee bit
- 44:29Speaker 3: of that in me yet and still, but I know
- 44:30Speaker 3: not to fucking bury the price of the mortgage in
- 44:32Speaker 3: it either.
- 44:32Speaker 2: And I'm looking in the toy shop at the time
- 44:35Speaker 2: and I'm going, yeah, that is cool. And you pick
- 44:36Speaker 2: up the He-Man sword, which wasn't available as a kid.
- 44:39Speaker 3: Like, you know what I mean?
- 44:39Speaker 2: And it does the whole sound and everything. You know,
- 44:43Speaker 2: when you hold it off your head. But at the
- 44:45Speaker 2: same time, there's not a hope in Christ I'm giving
- 44:48Speaker 2: forward to yours for this fucking thing. Like, what am
- 44:49Speaker 2: I to do with it? Like, you know, it ain't happening.
- 44:52Speaker 2: But there's a momentary thing where you're like, ah, yeah,
- 44:54Speaker 2: I get it. Yeah, fair enough.
- 44:55Speaker 3: You know, and not for nothing, actually, my argument is
- 44:58Speaker 3: crumbling here, Tom, because I'm surrounded by fucking merchandise here.
- 45:01Speaker 2: Yes, you are, yeah.
- 45:02Speaker 3: When it comes to old computer games and things like this.
- 45:03Speaker 3: Hold on a wee second.
- 45:04Speaker 2: What's that? Yeah, what do you, Game Boys, you've, what
- 45:07Speaker 2: is that?
- 45:08Speaker 3: You know, yes, yes, okay, I will collect Nintendo games
- 45:11Speaker 3: and all that kind of crack. But I feel that's
- 45:14Speaker 3: usually a grown man can see them. We went to,
- 45:17Speaker 3: we went to a model train exhibition. And the wee
- 45:22Speaker 3: man loves wee trains.
- 45:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 45:24Speaker 3: Still to this day. And it's like everybody sets out
- 45:25Speaker 3: the model railways, but you can also buy trains and
- 45:27Speaker 3: you can buy, uh, track and you can buy all
- 45:30Speaker 3: sorts of Hornby shit and things like that.
- 45:32Speaker 2: Do the toilets work on him out of interest, the door?
- 45:34Speaker 2: I know you, you want a legit one, like with
- 45:39Speaker 2: the doors.
- 45:39Speaker 3: I want a legit one where the door just slides
- 45:42Speaker 3: open and you're just revealed to the world.
- 45:44Speaker 4: Some little fella doing a hand-taking slash in the worst
- 45:47Speaker 4: toilet cone. Uh, Anyway, all this to say, Tom, in
- 45:52Speaker 4: the middle of all the mix from Gathering of Stuff
- 45:54Speaker 4: was this wee dude, which is Troy Tempest's boss.
- 45:58Speaker 2: Thunderbirds.
- 45:59Speaker 3: Yeah, from Stingray.
- 46:00Speaker 2: Stingray, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 46:02Speaker 3: And I said, as much as tea is a fiver,
- 46:04Speaker 3: and I goes, go on, I'll give you a fiver
- 46:05Speaker 3: for that.
- 46:06Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that. I feel that's about a level of.
- 46:09Speaker 3: A thing that you can agree with. I'm not going
- 46:14Speaker 3: to be sitting up until fucking two o'clock in the
- 46:15Speaker 3: morning bidding on eBay, dropping 250 bucks for a fucking
- 46:19Speaker 3: cap in Scarlet.
- 46:20Speaker 2: All right, that's... to flip it back around to Al
- 46:22Speaker 2: Cullen there like he must have seen a huge jump
- 46:25Speaker 2: in what he was doing because he was in the
- 46:27Speaker 2: game and I mean the quintessential voiceover artist like we've
- 46:32Speaker 2: you know I've done voiceover work but I'm not a
- 46:35Speaker 2: you know yeah I did a fucking ad for a
- 46:37Speaker 2: crowd but this man was the voice of so many
- 46:40Speaker 2: things but he must have seen the jump from when
- 46:43Speaker 2: like he did he was Eeyore from like Christopher Robbins
- 46:48Speaker 2: Eeyore like from Winnie the Pooh. And I mean, when
- 46:52Speaker 2: he's doing that, he's not getting stopped going down the
- 46:54Speaker 2: street going, here, here, do the fucking donkey, will you? Like,
- 46:58Speaker 2: nobody gives a shite. It isn't until such a marketable
- 47:02Speaker 2: thing as Optimus Prime. Like, he did the voice of
- 47:06Speaker 2: a fucking rake of things when you look through him. Like,
- 47:08Speaker 2: he did, oh my sweet suffering Jesus.
- 47:10Speaker 3: Oh, forget about it and I'll tell you the other
- 47:11Speaker 3: shoes about to fall.
- 47:12Speaker 2: He did DuckTales, Donkey Kong, Dungeons and Dragons. He did
- 47:14Speaker 2: so many fucking things.
- 47:16Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 47:16Speaker 2: You can be guaranteed he was never, you know, because.
- 47:20Speaker 2: Optimus Prime was so marketable. Lads are painting their trucks
- 47:25Speaker 2: like Optimus Prime. You know what I mean? It's ludicrous.
- 47:28Speaker 2: So he must have seen it and gone, fucking hell,
- 47:31Speaker 2: I'm showing up to these conventions and I'm the voice
- 47:35Speaker 2: of a fucking truck.
- 47:36Speaker 3: I only hope, Tom, that he got a couple of
- 47:39Speaker 3: points off the back of all the merchandise as well
- 47:41Speaker 3: because he deserved it. God love him. And not for nothing,
- 47:43Speaker 3: as we drop this episode on Thursday, it marks the
- 47:47Speaker 3: 40th anniversary release of Transformers the movie where Optimus Prime
- 47:52Speaker 3: died for the first time. He died a couple of
- 47:55Speaker 3: times after that, folks. So spoiler alert if you haven't
- 47:57Speaker 3: seen Transformers the movie, but that was, even that was
- 48:01Speaker 3: the most cynical marketing thing gold. You know why they
- 48:04Speaker 3: killed Optimus Prime. They said it. They said it out loud.
- 48:07Speaker 3: They killed Optimus Prime in Transformers the movie because every
- 48:11Speaker 3: boy who liked Transformers already had an Optimus Prime.
- 48:14Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 48:15Speaker 2: Yeah, because who are you going to go for?
- 48:16Speaker 3: They wanted to bring in another robot to replace him.
- 48:20Speaker 3: So they fucking murdered him in front of us, Tom.
- 48:23Speaker 3: They killed him dead. No, start buying Bumblebee. I mean,
- 48:27Speaker 3: they don't fucking want Bumblebee. Start buying fucking Ultra Magnus.
- 48:30Speaker 3: And everyone was like, there's something untoward about all this.
- 48:34Speaker 3: And here we are, Tom, 40 years later, and all's
- 48:38Speaker 3: I'm saying for a finish to this bit is I
- 48:40Speaker 3: think it's made us a little weird.
- 48:42Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 48:43Speaker 3: It's been a hell of a ride, Tom.
- 48:46Speaker 2: Like, there's almost no other generation that would have come
- 48:49Speaker 2: across a situation really like this. We were like, well,
- 48:52Speaker 2: it was us that started. Obviously, it's in full flow nowadays,
- 48:56Speaker 2: but it's us. It started with us, really, where they
- 48:58Speaker 2: just went, let's peddle shit like nobody's fucking business.
- 49:02Speaker 3: I'll tell you, Tom, it's the world we live in.
- 49:04Speaker 3: We're over here going like, you know, yeah, wow, I'll
- 49:07Speaker 3: tell you, it was amazing to live through a time
- 49:09Speaker 3: where they tried really hard to sell us toys. And then, like,
- 49:12Speaker 3: someone growing up in famine times going like, Wonderful, I
- 49:15Speaker 3: ate grass and then I fucked off to America.
- 49:19Speaker 2: Where my children went on to be executives of Mattel
- 49:22Speaker 2: and all these other ones yeah.
- 49:23Speaker 3: And made nothing but money out of the whole thing
- 49:25Speaker 3: Tom listen We could fucking ramble on for another half
- 49:30Speaker 3: an hour, but I've got Optimus Primes on eBay to
- 49:32Speaker 3: look for. We're going to wrap it up there. And then,
- 49:34Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much for listening to
- 49:36Speaker 3: this episode of Tom and Jerry's Show. If you want
- 49:38Speaker 3: to hear more bullshit not unlike this and see Troy
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- 49:55Speaker 3: O'Mahony prefers Instagram.
- 49:57Speaker 2: You'll be as well to follow the Instagram. I'm not
- 50:00Speaker 2: joking with you, right? I leave it all in Gerry's hands.
- 50:03Speaker 2: And I love... This sounds fucking such like a... Follow
- 50:08Speaker 2: the Tom and Gerry show on Instagram. Gerry is... Not
- 50:11Speaker 2: only is he finding great stuff, I'm finding stuff that
- 50:13Speaker 2: I'm going, this would be better suited me sending it
- 50:15Speaker 2: to Gerry. And also now, lads and ladies and listeners
- 50:20Speaker 2: are sending... the Tom and Jerry show stuff on Instagram.
- 50:23Speaker 2: And it's fuck the story, like go to the story
- 50:25Speaker 2: every day because there's fucking amazing stuff on it. Just
- 50:29Speaker 2: stuff you're like, yeah, that's the stuff I need to see.
- 50:32Speaker 3: That's the, yeah, if you listen to this podcast, you're
- 50:34Speaker 3: going to like that content. You can drop comments over
- 50:36Speaker 3: as well on Spotify. Bob John, Bob John, I don't
- 50:39Speaker 3: believe you've commented before. How are you keeping there, buddy?
- 50:41Speaker 3: Mentions last week that he saw a ripped clown in
- 50:44Speaker 3: San Francisco airport in 2012. It was carrot top. Without context,
- 50:49Speaker 3: Bob John, That story might seem strange to new listeners,
- 50:51Speaker 3: but we were talking about clowns last week and it
- 50:53Speaker 3: fits right in.
- 50:54Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah, to find Carrot Top fucking steaming in San Francisco.
- 50:58Speaker 2: Fair play.
- 50:59Speaker 3: Yeah. Carrot Top, not for nothing. We might get into
- 51:02Speaker 3: him a wee bit, Tom, now, because he really did fucking.
- 51:04Speaker 2: He's an enigma, but he's still making huge money in Vegas.
- 51:08Speaker 2: He has come full circle, I think, and now he's
- 51:11Speaker 2: like a truck.
- 51:12Speaker 3: We all thought we were laughing at Carrot Top. Carrot
- 51:15Speaker 3: Top was laughing at us, Tom.
- 51:16Speaker 2: We just couldn't tell it was a plastic surgery. Go ahead,
- 51:18Speaker 2: like you said on Spotify, Bob John was able to
- 51:20Speaker 2: comment there. Do follow us, hit the icon as well
- 51:22Speaker 2: so that you will get this into your ear holes
- 51:25Speaker 2: every single Thursday. Let us know if you had a
- 51:30Speaker 2: battle cat or if you had Castle Grayskull back in
- 51:32Speaker 2: the day. Are you, would you be willing to donate
- 51:35Speaker 2: your own brain to put it into your own fucking
- 51:37Speaker 2: robot around the house just to get the, just to
- 51:40Speaker 2: get the dose of the daily humdrum of life off
- 51:43Speaker 2: your back?
- 51:44Speaker 3: Well, oh my god you could be your own yeah
- 51:47Speaker 3: god we didn't spend enough time on that story at
- 51:49Speaker 3: all Tom I could clone my own brain and put
- 51:51Speaker 3: it into a robot and just have like a little
- 51:53Speaker 3: robot me to fucking bomb around the place.
- 51:54Speaker 2: With yeah yeah yeah listen it's already there was a
- 51:58Speaker 2: Bruce Willis movie about that already but anyway yeah.
- 52:02Speaker 3: And everybody died Jesus Christ.
- 52:03Speaker 2: And everybody fucking died and of course you know have
- 52:07Speaker 2: you ever come across a dose of absolute shite that
- 52:10Speaker 2: you would have loved to deal with some cable ties
- 52:11Speaker 2: and a duct tape on any form of public transport
- 52:14Speaker 2: do let us know in either Spotify or Instagram. Other
- 52:18Speaker 2: than that, I'm going to go rub my legs down
- 52:20Speaker 2: after that.
- 52:21Speaker 3: Before you go, Tom, another thing we threw up on
- 52:23Speaker 3: the social media channels last week was that real strange
- 52:26Speaker 3: pair of vice grips that you saw in.
- 52:27Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 52:28Speaker 3: We've got some comments on that, by the way. Please.
- 52:31Speaker 3: Michal says, it's handy. You can tighten the shite out
- 52:34Speaker 3: of it without rounding the nut. Okay.
- 52:38Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I think... I still think you're going
- 52:41Speaker 2: to round the fucking nut if the nut is welded
- 52:43Speaker 2: on there. Like, I don't... I don't see it, Micheál.
- 52:46Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you that much now. Chip says
- 52:47Speaker 3: he thought it was AI. It was too, Chip. And
- 52:49Speaker 3: Andrew says it's a shift in grips.
- 52:52Speaker 2: Okay.
- 52:53Speaker 3: You answered nothing there, Andrew.
- 52:54Speaker 2: No. And I like that. I like that lads are
- 52:57Speaker 2: chiming in. You're dead fucking right.
- 52:59Speaker 3: You're dead right.
- 53:00Speaker 2: I held that thing in my hands and I'm raging
- 53:02Speaker 2: I didn't give the £ 12. 99 for it just to put
- 53:04Speaker 2: it to the test. But I can't... I couldn't part
- 53:07Speaker 2: with 1299 for the sake of a test, but I'm raging.
- 53:09Speaker 2: I am not given the interest.
- 53:10Speaker 3: Was the DAD drop 1299 for a bit, Tom? Not
- 53:13Speaker 3: these days.
- 53:13Speaker 1: No, no, not.
- 53:16Speaker 2: Do you know what? I nearly go back to see.
- 53:18Speaker 2: If somebody does get it, please let us know.
- 53:21Speaker 3: Yeah, please let us know.
- 53:22Speaker 2: Yeah, you had a thing in the stories yesterday that
- 53:24Speaker 2: intrigued me. And what Gerry seems to find that gets
- 53:26Speaker 2: sent by listeners is insane racing... in America.
- 53:32Speaker 3: That got sent to me. That got sent to me.
- 53:34Speaker 3: I didn't, I didn't put that out of the sky.
- 53:35Speaker 3: That got sent to me.
- 53:36Speaker 2: There was something randy slash sexual predator that, there was
- 53:41Speaker 2: one where this, this four by, this four way, four
- 53:43Speaker 2: by four is pulling a, like a car transporter trailer.
- 53:47Speaker 3: A low loader, yeah.
- 53:48Speaker 2: Around a track and a rake of cars are trying
- 53:51Speaker 2: to be the first one to get up on it.
- 53:53Speaker 3: To drive up on the back of it.
- 53:54Speaker 2: It looks like mating season with deer around here. Like just,
- 53:58Speaker 2: a rake of stags just chasing after one deer and
- 54:01Speaker 2: the first one on is on and that's it and.
- 54:03Speaker 3: Tom did you see the crowd that drew yeah like
- 54:05Speaker 3: that filled the stadium it was fucking amazing but you
- 54:07Speaker 3: know what I was sent in by Pat there on
- 54:09Speaker 3: Instagram I'm
- 54:09Speaker 2: Hanging with that Pat keep up the good work that's
- 54:12Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say to people alright Tom let's
- 54:14Speaker 2: let these people go good luck