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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, January 3 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football touchdown Jackonville Touchdown
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Speaker 1: Path from the Mighty Cardinal. It is Thursday, January. This
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Speaker 1: is Jaguars Happy Hours and now Anxious Leo waiting induction
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Speaker 1: into the Meat and Bourbon Hall of Fame. J P. Sha.
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Speaker 1: It's a long list of finalists at this table. At
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Speaker 1: least welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick. Jeff
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Speaker 1: Lageman is back, Flash, what's up man? It's all good man,
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Speaker 1: It's all good, and it's a good week to be
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Speaker 1: back because there's so much going on in the football world. Yes,
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna get into something. I try to I
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Speaker 1: try to not get over nundated with Super Bowl media week,
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Speaker 1: just because it just gets to be so much and
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Speaker 1: it kind of take away from the sparkle of the
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Speaker 1: game a little bit when you just kind of get
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Speaker 1: tired of all the coverage. So I try to stay
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Speaker 1: away from it all week and then I just get
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Speaker 1: in front of the TV on Sunday and I eat
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Speaker 1: it up. I turned on the pregame show at whenever
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Speaker 1: it starts one o'clock, and now I have it on
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Speaker 1: all day. I'm not gonna do that? Is that like that?
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Speaker 1: It's Super Bowl Sunday, give me, give me an hour
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Speaker 1: of pregame like normal, and then let me get to
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Speaker 1: the game. Here's what we're getting to the ship. I
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Speaker 1: gotta keep apparently, so keep your routine. Here's what's coming
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Speaker 1: up on our show today, super Bowl Week. We'll discuss
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Speaker 1: some of the game coming up Sunday. Hall of Fame
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Speaker 1: vote that's coming up Saturday, but sally watch well. Here
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Speaker 1: from Tony Boselli coming up. He'll be on radio road
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Speaker 1: out of Miami, and that we'll hear from Ashlon Sullivan
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Speaker 1: and John Osier as well. It's coming up a little
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Speaker 1: bit later and a special guest, Mark Brunell, schedule to
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Speaker 1: join the folks down in South Beach to do also.
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Speaker 1: So I will hear a lot about Tony Boselli's um
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Speaker 1: candidacy for the Hall of Fame. He's in the fifteen finalists.
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Speaker 1: That will be throughout the show today. Let's rewind a
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Speaker 1: little bit for the Jaguars, though, we're gonna hear about
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Speaker 1: Tony all day and we'll get to him later. The Jaguars.
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Speaker 1: Since we've last spoken, you and I have hired an
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, Jay Gruden, former Washington Redskins head coach, former
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals offensive coordinator before that for a few years,
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Speaker 1: and here he comes to Jacksonville. What do you think. Well,
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Speaker 1: first foremost, I liked the hire just because he's got
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Speaker 1: a lot of experience. And when Jay was was the
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in Cincinnati, and even when he was the
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Speaker 1: head coach in Washington, he was always viewed as one
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Speaker 1: of the better coordinators in the National Football League, one
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Speaker 1: of the better play callers in the National Football League.
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Speaker 1: And this was was right along the lines of kind
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Speaker 1: of what I was expecting, and I made mention of
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Speaker 1: when we were talking about the type of candidate that
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Speaker 1: the Jaguar Ours could get. My opinion was that it
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Speaker 1: would take. It was gonna take somebody that has kind
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Speaker 1: of been there and done that and wasn't looking for
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Speaker 1: the next step up for the next job to take
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Speaker 1: to make them end up having a better job in
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Speaker 1: the future. And j fits that bill and he's a
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Speaker 1: good coach, and uh, he's a bright offensive mind, and
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Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to seeing what his opinion is
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Speaker 1: once he comes in here, because I think there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of evaluation that's gonna be coming up when he
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Speaker 1: walks in the door, and his opinion is gonna hold
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Speaker 1: a lot of weight when it comes to a lot
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Speaker 1: of important decisions that are gonna be happening with his
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Speaker 1: organization offensively, namely under center, who's gonna have the reins
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Speaker 1: at quarterback number one exactly? And there's other there's other
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Speaker 1: guys that I think he's gonna be able to have
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Speaker 1: some input on, whether it be you know, the offensive
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Speaker 1: line or wide receivers running back, what I mean, whatever
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Speaker 1: it is. I mean, he's the offensive coordinator, and I'm
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Speaker 1: sure that there's gonna be some tweaks and maybe an
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Speaker 1: adjustment here or there, and I don't think anything major,
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Speaker 1: but maybe some subtle tweaks because you know, when an
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator comes in, he likes to have a comfort
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Speaker 1: level with some of those that are around him. And
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Speaker 1: obviously a lot of the staff that is here are
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Speaker 1: going to be staying. But there might be one or
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Speaker 1: two positions, because there are some opening still, but there
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Speaker 1: might be one or two positions to where Jay has
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Speaker 1: a comfort level with somebody that will help him part
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Speaker 1: of his inner circle, whatever you wanna call it. That
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Speaker 1: he feels real comfortable with and and I'm sure that
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Speaker 1: they will bring them in with Jay to work with
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Speaker 1: Jay and and make the situation better for him. Quarterback
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Speaker 1: coach still out there looming as well. See what they
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Speaker 1: do say. And you know, and as Doug said, you know,
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Speaker 1: they talked about they still got to work through. Would
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Speaker 1: Jay be the offensive coordinator slash quarterbacks coach? Um? I
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Speaker 1: would expect them to hire somebody. I don't necessarily expect
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Speaker 1: them to hire somebody to be strictly a quarterbacks coach.
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Speaker 1: It could happen, but they also could look at maybe
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Speaker 1: supplementing another position with that coach position, other so they
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Speaker 1: don't have to have a quarterback coach. Maybe they bring in,
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Speaker 1: you know, an extra offensive line coach or extra offensive
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Speaker 1: assistant just in general. You know. So I don't know,
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Speaker 1: but he could, but I don't expect that to happen.
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Speaker 1: I mean typically, I mean once you once you have
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Speaker 1: a certain number on your staff, I mean that's there's
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Speaker 1: a reason why you have that number. You have a
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Speaker 1: belief that it takes that many people to be able
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Speaker 1: to do the job on one side of the ball
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Speaker 1: or the other. The point is, I guess there's no
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Speaker 1: limit on how many you can have or not have, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean the twelve if you, if you, I mean
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Speaker 1: that's that's the unity, and that most teams aren't like
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Speaker 1: the Patriots. The Patriots are very unique. You know, they
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Speaker 1: have And I understand why Bill Belichick does that. Bill
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Speaker 1: wants to have as few voices as possible in the
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Speaker 1: player's ear because he believes that the less voices that
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Speaker 1: are in somebody's ear, it creates more clarity for the players.
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Speaker 1: And he's probably right in a lot of instant is.
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Speaker 1: But with some of the changes in football and the
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Speaker 1: the expanding staff, a lot of coaches, head coaches like
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Speaker 1: to have bigger staff because there's always a lot of
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Speaker 1: change in the National Football League. And so let's say
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Speaker 1: that you lose somebody to be a coordinator for another team. Well, okay,
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Speaker 1: we lost so and so he took a job to
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Speaker 1: be a coordinator another team. We had an assistant position coach.
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Speaker 1: He can just move right up into that position that
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Speaker 1: was vacated by this guy who got an advancement. So
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Speaker 1: there's a little bit of that philosophy. But I'm a
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Speaker 1: big I would probably be more along the lines of
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Speaker 1: what Belichick believes in having less coaches and less voices
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Speaker 1: for the players to have more clarity. Well, it helps
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Speaker 1: when you have a quarterback in an offense that's been
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Speaker 1: going at it for darn near twenty years. Well, you know, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it helps. There's no doubt to have the goat. But
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Speaker 1: at the same token, Belichick has one without the goat too.
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Speaker 1: Do you think that castle, Jimmy Garoppo, I mean, I
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Speaker 1: know there's a limited Yeah, say that again. They want
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Speaker 1: to have missed They won eleven, they missed the playoffs,
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. You think we'd be happy with when eleven
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Speaker 1: games and missing the playoffs around here? Yeah, yeah, I
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Speaker 1: think so. Yeah, we'll take it any day the way.
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl week we'll hear from Tony Boselli and them
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Speaker 1: coming up down in Miami, Ashland. Sullivan's down there, John
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Speaker 1: Osan as well. Um, a little thought about the the
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Speaker 1: game this week. I mean, this is this matchups fun
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Speaker 1: to watch Chiefs forty Niners. I know you're not one.
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Speaker 1: You're just ready to watch the game on Sunday. This matchups, Well,
7:39
Speaker 1: let me kind of correct a little bit. I don't
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Speaker 1: watch a lot of TV the Super Bowl week. I
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Speaker 1: still keep up with reading and clips and kind of
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Speaker 1: what's going on at the super Bowl or during the week.
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Speaker 1: But I'm not one of those people that's just gonna
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Speaker 1: sit in front of the TV and then just listen
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Speaker 1: to a million different people give an opinion over and
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Speaker 1: over about a thing. That's not what I'm gonna do.
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Speaker 1: But when there's news that comes out of the Super Bowl,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna be able to get it. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna read it, and I'm gonna even do more research
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Speaker 1: into some of the things that I think are pretty
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Speaker 1: interesting and I but I think to talk about the
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Speaker 1: game itself, it's I think this is a great match up.
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Speaker 1: I think it's a great matchup, and I hope that
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Speaker 1: one thing doesn't happen. And then a lot of times
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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, I call it the magnification of
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Speaker 1: mistakes and that everybody expects as when you're in a
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and you're a team and a Super Bowl
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Speaker 1: player coach everything. You want everything to go so perfect,
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Speaker 1: and when something goes wrong a lot of times that
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Speaker 1: leads to another mistake, that leads to another mistake, that
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Speaker 1: leads to another mistake, and then before you know it,
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Speaker 1: it's a butt kicking or it's a lopsided game. Because
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Speaker 1: you don't overreact to those things in the regular season. Hey,
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Speaker 1: let's just keep fighting at sixty minute game, no big deal.
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Speaker 1: But the added pressure of it being a Super Bowl
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Speaker 1: and the pressures of having that perfect game and we
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Speaker 1: can't mess this up. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity.
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Speaker 1: A lot of times, one small mistake and it might
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Speaker 1: be on on a scale of one to a hundred
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Speaker 1: as far as mistakes go, it might be a ten.
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Speaker 1: But because it's during the Super Bowl, you make it
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Speaker 1: feel like it's a thirty five or forty, and then
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Speaker 1: that ends up messing you up, you know, and plays
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Speaker 1: down the road. So you hope that that doesn't happen.
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Speaker 1: And uh, with with the coaches in the game, with
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Speaker 1: with Andy Reid and Kyle Shanahan, they've been in a
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Speaker 1: big game before. Hopefully the likelihood of that happening is small.
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Speaker 1: That was my next point was Andy Reid's been in
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Speaker 1: this game before with a different organization. Of course, did
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Speaker 1: not win. It was right here in Jacksonville, UM, but
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Speaker 1: he's been at this for so long and in playoff
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Speaker 1: games and everything kind of understands it. Shanahan I'm rooting
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Speaker 1: for him, was in it. I'm I'm rooting for Andy Reid.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that right now. And Well Shanahan
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Speaker 1: was Remember him was offensive coordinator in Atlanta when they
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Speaker 1: had the huge leading loss to the Patriot and which
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Speaker 1: you know a lot of the people penn the loss
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Speaker 1: on Kyle Shanahan's for some of the play calling that
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Speaker 1: he had offensively. If he chose to run the ball
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Speaker 1: there at the end of the ball game, more than
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Speaker 1: likely that Lanta Falcons would be both champs. And Kyle
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Speaker 1: Shanahan doesn't have that kind of of backing though that
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Speaker 1: Andy Reid has I said this before that you can
10:25
Speaker 1: go and pull anybody that has ever worked for Andy Reid,
10:29
Speaker 1: even people that he has fired, including Bob Sutton, who
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Speaker 1: was his defensive coordinator last year, who Andy Reid just
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Speaker 1: recently came out and lauded and said, hey, Bob something
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Speaker 1: was a big part of what we are doing here
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Speaker 1: now because he helped build the foundation. How many coaches
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Speaker 1: do that. And if you asked Bob Sutton about Andy
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Speaker 1: Reid and he got fired, he would not say a
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Speaker 1: bad word about Andrew. That's what Andy Reid is there
10:52
Speaker 1: there are no people in the National Football League that
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Speaker 1: have anything bad to say about Andy Reid, because there
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Speaker 1: are so many good things to say about Andy Reid.
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Speaker 1: And he's been through a lot in his NFL career,
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Speaker 1: and he is a purely a football coach and uh,
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Speaker 1: and he's wired for football. And there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: people that out they are out there that are rooting
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Speaker 1: for him, and I'm one of them. Uh. And I
11:18
Speaker 1: don't have any connection with Andy Reid. I just know
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Speaker 1: a lot of people that have worked for Andy Reid
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Speaker 1: and people that played for Andy Reid, and the love
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Speaker 1: and affection that they have for Andy Reid is very apparent.
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Speaker 1: And so you're you naturally root for somebody Like that
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Speaker 1: quarterback matchup Patrick Mahomes Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah, and it's clear
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Speaker 1: that Mahomes is the better player. I mean, it's it
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Speaker 1: is what it is. But Garoppolo is capable. He has
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Speaker 1: a more than capable run game to support him, and
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Speaker 1: he has a more than capable defense to support him
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Speaker 1: as well. I'm just curious how long that defense can
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Speaker 1: keep up with Kansas Cities guys offense, because they've got
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Speaker 1: a track team around Mahomes and then if you cover him,
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Speaker 1: then he can run forward too well. Who knows. The
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Speaker 1: biggest thing is is that? And I think Robert Salez
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Speaker 1: is I mean this, This has to be a big
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Speaker 1: game on his end, and the back end has to
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Speaker 1: play really well because Ken's City is good enough to
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Speaker 1: where sometimes no matter how good you play up front,
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes can make you pay in the back end
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Speaker 1: even though you're playing really well up front. That that's
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Speaker 1: that's how good Patrick Mahomes is. That's the difference between
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Jimmy Garoppolo. Jimmy Garoppolo, you play well
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Speaker 1: up front, you're probably gonna end up playing very well
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Speaker 1: against Jimmy Garoppolo. Against Patrick Mahomes, you play really well
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Speaker 1: up front, it doesn't mean you're gonna play really well
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Speaker 1: against Kan City and Patrick Mahomes. That's the difference. That's
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Speaker 1: the two. That's probably the thing that separates those two
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and Mahomes and carry a team on its back.
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Speaker 1: pan Uh Jaguars Happy Our rolls along Super Bowl Week.
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Speaker 1: The game is in Miami, South Florida this year. Saturday,
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame voting will go on for the
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Speaker 1: UH the fifteen finalists, including Tony Boselli. Um, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: go down to South Beach now Radio Row. That's the
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Speaker 1: Row's close, Thank goodness, Miami Beach Convention Center. We had
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Speaker 1: good we had a good like off the that was
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Speaker 1: a good like a good podcast. The question was who
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Speaker 1: would it be cool to see walking through Radio Row?
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Speaker 1: Because Tony's not can't come up with anybody. He'd be
17:35
Speaker 1: over athletes. I've got a list of about a hundred
17:37
Speaker 1: people that would impress me if I saw like you
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Speaker 1: would be like when you say impressed that you'd go
17:42
Speaker 1: ask for Like, no, I'm not gonna ask for an
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Speaker 1: autograph at one level, not until they got out in
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Speaker 1: the parking lot and you've run and follow. But I think,
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Speaker 1: like you see Hall of Famers, football players, you know
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Speaker 1: all that stuff, walk through it, okay, But like if
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Speaker 1: a famous actor walk through, I would think that's cool, Like, hey,
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Speaker 1: there's Russell Craille, Kevin Costner, that's cool. I'm not gonna
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Speaker 1: talk him and chase him down and all that stuff,
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Speaker 1: but I think they'd be cool. Okay, Yeah, I mean
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Speaker 1: I guess, all right, well we're different. I was team
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Speaker 1: j Loo, but that's just me. Yeah, so i'd run
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Speaker 1: and crime why but not Shakira. Do you like her music? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I think she's awesome. So she's doing the half yea,
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Speaker 1: she sinks Jennifer Lopez. Really, I've seen her act. But
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Speaker 1: I have bought an album sciences they still call them albums.
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Speaker 1: They don't do albums anymore. But how about CDs? Do
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Speaker 1: they do CDs? No tracks? Yeah? The old guy in
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Speaker 1: the group there is you know she's doing the halftime show. Oh,
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Speaker 1: helps get the uh sideline all the he's an engineer,
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Speaker 1: come out, this is we're gonna end up, this is
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Speaker 1: how close And so we get musician where when Lady
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Speaker 1: here for a reason, So do tell Legends Yes, UM
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Speaker 1: for two reasons. One to see the big lug get
19:33
Speaker 1: in UM and too so UH. The NFL six years
19:38
Speaker 1: ago started UH an organization out of the NFL office
19:41
Speaker 1: called the Legends Community. It's our alumni group. And so
19:44
Speaker 1: every year at the Super Bowl and at the Combined Draft,
19:47
Speaker 1: UM we host this year will probably have four or
19:52
Speaker 1: former players come through and with the Legends Lounge, I'll
19:55
Speaker 1: be there, Tony will be there. It's a safe place
19:57
Speaker 1: for former players to go, free food for drinks, no media,
20:02
Speaker 1: just a place to hang out, hang out, reconnect with
20:06
Speaker 1: former teammates and UH, guys that you played with, guys
20:10
Speaker 1: you played against. We've been doing it for about six
20:13
Speaker 1: years now and and it's great to see guys that
20:15
Speaker 1: played in the seventies or eighties. Uh, reconnect with someone
20:19
Speaker 1: that they played against, you know, And and uh, it's
20:21
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. The stories and the camaraderie. The
20:24
Speaker 1: thing you miss the most, miss most about the game.
20:27
Speaker 1: It's it's the it is that camaraderie. And uh, and
20:31
Speaker 1: you get to see guys relive that to a degree. Um.
20:34
Speaker 1: And so it's a lot of fun. So we'll have
20:36
Speaker 1: that tonight, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, you know. And and it's
20:40
Speaker 1: a good thing. It's fun. It is fun, but it's
20:43
Speaker 1: some sort of danger. Yeah, we're in my hand. Yes,
20:51
Speaker 1: on a serious note, here's what I want to because
20:53
Speaker 1: I know we don't have that long with Mark, no
20:55
Speaker 1: things to do. You give each other grief all the time,
20:59
Speaker 1: but it pretend Tony's not here, which tell me what, Uh,
21:07
Speaker 1: you know what it's it's long overdue. It's well deserved,
21:11
Speaker 1: you know. And you know, I'm on Twitter and I
21:13
Speaker 1: see all these you know, people saying this about Tony Boselli.
21:16
Speaker 1: He was the best at this, and you know, you
21:18
Speaker 1: look at all the clips and Bruce Smith talks. I
21:21
Speaker 1: got to see it firsthand. I was on I was
21:23
Speaker 1: in the huddle. It's on the fields in the locker room,
21:27
Speaker 1: don't listen to this. I got to experience really the
21:30
Speaker 1: greatness day in and day out, the leadership, the work ethic,
21:34
Speaker 1: how he played, how he approached the game on the field,
21:37
Speaker 1: off the field. So I mean, I know it better
21:40
Speaker 1: than anybody, and I know how deserving he is. And
21:44
Speaker 1: it's going to happen at some point. I really wanted
21:46
Speaker 1: to happen this weekend because I can't take this anymore.
21:49
Speaker 1: Of him not getting in. It drives me. I know
21:51
Speaker 1: he gets nervous. I do too, but again it's it's
21:54
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's deserving. The Hall of Fame is for
21:58
Speaker 1: players who were rate a Tony BASSELLI was a great player. Okay, Tony,
22:04
Speaker 1: you can come back into the room. Now he's getting
22:07
Speaker 1: emotional because that's what he does. Yeah, I'm taking a
22:15
Speaker 1: I'm taking a new approach this year though. Okay, so
22:17
Speaker 1: for the last few years, this is the best. The
22:20
Speaker 1: last few years approach. Now, our our approaches we flipped.
22:24
Speaker 1: So the last three or four or five, however many
22:27
Speaker 1: years we've been doing this, I have been mr positive.
22:30
Speaker 1: Especially that happened last year. I was on it's gonna happen,
22:34
Speaker 1: Tony I'm telling you, in my gut, feel it in
22:37
Speaker 1: my gut. I know what's happening, you know, I just
22:40
Speaker 1: I just know what I can't I can't tell you
22:42
Speaker 1: how strongly I feel about this. I was felt so
22:44
Speaker 1: good about it, and then it doesn't happen. And then
22:46
Speaker 1: as soon as it didn't happen, the first thing out
22:48
Speaker 1: of Tony's mouth when he gets off the phone, Yeah,
22:50
Speaker 1: so much for your gut. Now, So this year I'm
22:54
Speaker 1: changing up. Okay, I am Mr Negative. Okay, we'll have
22:57
Speaker 1: to wait till next year because this isn't happy. Okay.
23:00
Speaker 1: I don't trust the voters. I hate them all. They
23:03
Speaker 1: all suck, you know, But it's not happening. We'll be
23:07
Speaker 1: in Vegas. We'll be in Vegas next year's and maybe
23:10
Speaker 1: it'll happen then. But I'm Mr. Negative. First of all,
23:13
Speaker 1: that's Vegas. It's not you can go to Vegas Vegas.
23:21
Speaker 1: I gotta stay out of Vegas now. Vegas is dangerous.
23:24
Speaker 1: You need a safe place there. I think a legends
23:26
Speaker 1: la Vegas. I think I've told like I've talked, been
23:29
Speaker 1: on the radio road and I said super Bowl in
23:31
Speaker 1: Vegas like eight times today. You know they're all looking
23:37
Speaker 1: at you. Yeah. Yeah, they don't want to tell you. Guys,
23:43
Speaker 1: I don't talk about that. I don't think we have.
23:45
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been on the show with you guys
23:48
Speaker 1: separately a lot, but it's not every day we get
23:50
Speaker 1: to gist together. What a treat um, you'll be invoiced.
23:53
Speaker 1: It is a treat Uh. I ain't paying ums, by
23:58
Speaker 1: the way, we never pay any for any help. This
24:01
Speaker 1: is for the Jaguars, um. Mark, tell me from your perspective,
24:07
Speaker 1: maybe your best Besselli story on the field, maybe a game.
24:11
Speaker 1: You remember anything that the fans maybe don't hear all
24:16
Speaker 1: the time. You couldn't. I've been sitting here for an hour.
24:17
Speaker 1: You couldn't asked me to think about that before I
24:22
Speaker 1: need time, was busy talking to Sally. So I'll tell
24:24
Speaker 1: you if i'll tell you my uh my favorite. You
24:27
Speaker 1: hold off, I'll tell you until five I go. I'm
24:31
Speaker 1: gonna tell you because Mark, it's about because it goes
24:34
Speaker 1: to the whole Legends thing, the Legends line and what
24:36
Speaker 1: they're trying to do. And it's fun this week because
24:38
Speaker 1: you get around a lot of guys try to replicate
24:40
Speaker 1: that comradery, that locker room stuff. But like my favorite
24:43
Speaker 1: memories about playing with Mark were, yeah, the games, and
24:46
Speaker 1: I can tell stories of things that happened in the
24:48
Speaker 1: games and crazy things, but like the trade, like the
24:50
Speaker 1: kind of the schedule, like you got into and the
24:53
Speaker 1: fun things like back then were you roomed with somebody.
24:57
Speaker 1: Now players have their own rooms. You can have your
24:59
Speaker 1: own room. Back when we played, but you had to
25:01
Speaker 1: pay for your own room. Neither of us were gonna
25:04
Speaker 1: pay for anither right now, and that's not happening. So
25:07
Speaker 1: we roomed together, and I think back like the fun,
25:09
Speaker 1: like we'd go to dinner the same time, pretty much
25:12
Speaker 1: the whole time. You play again and again to the
25:14
Speaker 1: same we go to the same not the first year.
25:16
Speaker 1: We don't like each other, first year, second year. Yeah,
25:19
Speaker 1: we go to the same restaurant home every year. Every
25:21
Speaker 1: week on the road, we had the same routine and
25:23
Speaker 1: part one of my favorite things the routine was at night,
25:26
Speaker 1: like we get over everyone you know, you bed check
25:29
Speaker 1: and Mark and I were at eleven o'clock on Saturday,
25:36
Speaker 1: turn up. That's that was later we turned on a
25:41
Speaker 1: Saturday Saturday night line and we had a tradition before
25:45
Speaker 1: every home game. Now every I mean every whole more
25:48
Speaker 1: road game. We would watch Saturday Night Live. Didn't miss it,
25:51
Speaker 1: did not miss it. Every one. Absolutely, he would fall asleep.
25:58
Speaker 1: I had to finish it. I had to watch the
26:00
Speaker 1: whole thing go like twelve thirty whatever time I'd fall asleep,
26:03
Speaker 1: or on midnight because you I had a trouble sleeping anyways,
26:05
Speaker 1: and I'd be up at the crack of night and
26:07
Speaker 1: so um. But we'd watched Saturday Night Live and we'd
26:10
Speaker 1: laugh and joke and then we'd be telling I mean,
26:12
Speaker 1: and so that was during good Saturday light. That was
26:14
Speaker 1: will Ferrella great and so fun. Just little things like that,
26:21
Speaker 1: like you don't get it, like like grown men hanging
26:24
Speaker 1: out and watching and laughing and then go and playing
26:28
Speaker 1: the game. Those are this thing. It was really the
26:30
Speaker 1: any other situation he would be frowned upon. Yeah, yeah,
26:34
Speaker 1: questioned question. For sure. I think it probably back then
26:37
Speaker 1: when we were you know, playing for uh the Jaguars,
26:41
Speaker 1: it was probably the only two hours of enjoyment we
26:44
Speaker 1: had the whole week. But the only time you're allowed
26:46
Speaker 1: to last come in and hang out. Hey what's on?
26:50
Speaker 1: If Tom's listening, He's like, That's why Bruneill never want
26:52
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl he's watching. He might have find us
26:55
Speaker 1: if it found out totally the SNL fine. Tom was great,
27:00
Speaker 1: Tony Um. The memories every time the memories are are
27:04
Speaker 1: off the field stuff, and uh it's locker room, it's
27:08
Speaker 1: the weight room. It's just you know, the meals. On
27:11
Speaker 1: the field, he was all business. I mean, he didn't
27:14
Speaker 1: didn't say a lot. He competed. I used to love
27:16
Speaker 1: it when getting fights and he talked trash. Um. I
27:19
Speaker 1: think the money Night game against you know, Jason Taylor saying,
27:21
Speaker 1: you know, come on, and that was pretty cool. I
27:24
Speaker 1: I saw that, honestly, and maybe I just don't remember.
27:29
Speaker 1: And on the field, uh story where he said sorry
27:33
Speaker 1: because he just kicked everybody's But every time he went
27:36
Speaker 1: out there, you know, it's the same thing. And he
27:38
Speaker 1: wasn't getting boring at all. He used to He used
27:40
Speaker 1: to cuss at me when I'd run out of bounds
27:42
Speaker 1: on his side and get a sack. He would he
27:45
Speaker 1: would amen, he would cuss me out because because we'd
27:50
Speaker 1: roll out to the left and you know, instead of
27:52
Speaker 1: throwing it away, I'd stepped, I'd step out of bounds
27:54
Speaker 1: before the line of scrimmage, which, as you know, is
27:56
Speaker 1: a sack to his side, and so I'll give you
27:59
Speaker 1: a perfect one time. He said, yeah, one time, he said,
28:02
Speaker 1: he said, I ran at about he said, you're costing
28:04
Speaker 1: me the holiday. That's why we're here. Five years later,
28:08
Speaker 1: so we're playing Seattle. It's on that run and uh,
28:13
Speaker 1: Michael McCarry was the right end. He end up going
28:15
Speaker 1: to Baltimore. So I played him. I played fifteen time,
28:17
Speaker 1: one of the best players when we played, and uh,
28:20
Speaker 1: and I knew it was a tough match and we're playing,
28:23
Speaker 1: going about it. And at the end of the day,
28:26
Speaker 1: I look at the statue and he has three sacks
28:29
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what, Like, I remember one he got
28:32
Speaker 1: a good bull rush, the pocket collapse, Marcus trying to
28:35
Speaker 1: you know, had to hold it for a second. And
28:37
Speaker 1: it was allegitately Michael Curry beat me. He was a
28:39
Speaker 1: good play by him, And okay, fine, whatever, And I'm like,
28:42
Speaker 1: when did you get two other sacks? And then I'll
28:44
Speaker 1: go back and I look at it. Well, on a
28:46
Speaker 1: naked naked bootleg, instead of throwing it away, Brunel runs
28:51
Speaker 1: out of bounds one yard behind the line of scrimmage.
28:54
Speaker 1: It would have hurt my rating sack because McCarry was
28:57
Speaker 1: the closest one, like okay, and then the next one
29:00
Speaker 1: I remember, I had stone Michael McCray on the line
29:02
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. He's running around there like he does, trying
29:05
Speaker 1: to find somebody, can't find anybody, and instead up again
29:07
Speaker 1: throwing away. He tries to run up into the line
29:09
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and gets tackled for no gain and the
29:13
Speaker 1: hell that's a sack. And I'm like, I'm like, you're
29:16
Speaker 1: killing me, man. I mean, he gave up three sacks
29:18
Speaker 1: that day. You were terrible killing me. But my favorite
29:21
Speaker 1: story about Market is as a player is on the field,
29:26
Speaker 1: there was very few guys as tough physically as Mark
29:30
Speaker 1: and and what epitomizes in my memory, I don't know.
29:33
Speaker 1: While I remember we're playing in Baltimore Ravens and they
29:36
Speaker 1: had a safety Eric Turner, I think his name was
29:39
Speaker 1: strong safety and we're blocking and they bring a blitz
29:43
Speaker 1: blitz from the secondary and Mark's hanging in there and
29:46
Speaker 1: I'm blocking my guy and he's kind of trying to
29:48
Speaker 1: move to the left a little bit to buy time
29:50
Speaker 1: because he knows that the free safety strong safety is coming.
29:53
Speaker 1: And it's one of those throws where he's throwing it,
29:55
Speaker 1: and as he's throwing it, Eric Turner's crown of his
29:59
Speaker 1: helmet he is on his chin, driving him to the
30:02
Speaker 1: ground and I could hear like the air like leave
30:06
Speaker 1: his body and I and I'm blocking my gun. I
30:08
Speaker 1: turned around. The ball's gone, probably completed, and I looked
30:11
Speaker 1: down and he is just looking up at me with
30:13
Speaker 1: his eyes wide open. And I'm like, is he dead
30:17
Speaker 1: because he's not moving, and I'm like, brute. He just
30:21
Speaker 1: looks at me and he's not moving. So I helped
30:23
Speaker 1: him up. Comes back in the huddle. He's like barely
30:26
Speaker 1: sit there and he's trying to call the play and
30:29
Speaker 1: he can't call the play. He's like just sitting there
30:32
Speaker 1: as we call time out and I'm like, yeah, I'm
30:36
Speaker 1: like he's done. I'm like someone, you know, here comes
30:37
Speaker 1: some whoever the backup was then, I don't remember it was.
30:40
Speaker 1: And I'm like, great, we have the backup now, you know,
30:42
Speaker 1: to be harder. And all of a sudden, here comes
30:44
Speaker 1: eight jogging back and like nothing had happened. And like
30:50
Speaker 1: so for people like it's different now because the quarterbacks
30:53
Speaker 1: are more protected. I mean back then, I mean they
30:56
Speaker 1: were they were free game back there, and this guy
30:59
Speaker 1: rarely missed the way where they missed the game. And
31:01
Speaker 1: I mean it's so that's always those memories, and those
31:05
Speaker 1: are the great things I can tell stories about a
31:06
Speaker 1: lot of guys we played with. It's the it's the
31:10
Speaker 1: bond that you have and Mark and I, you know,
31:13
Speaker 1: rained friends all these years, the best of friends. And
31:16
Speaker 1: and because it's partly for a lot of reasons, but
31:19
Speaker 1: part of the history of them being together and doing
31:21
Speaker 1: something together and the memories around it on the field,
31:23
Speaker 1: locker room, traveling, all the things that uh happened around
31:27
Speaker 1: playing for the Jaguars. Let's not forget though, that this
31:30
Speaker 1: is your fault. He addressed that. Yeah, because he doesn't,
31:33
Speaker 1: because he has on you half the time. He just
31:39
Speaker 1: sit back there and just like I'm like, throw the ball.
31:42
Speaker 1: How about you throw it before if we're gonna go.
31:44
Speaker 1: This isn't seven minute, This isn't seven Mississippi. Okay, hold on,
31:47
Speaker 1: hold on, here we go, here we go. Okay. Just
31:53
Speaker 1: think of because I was a left handed quarterback, how
31:57
Speaker 1: many times I saved him because I could see when
32:00
Speaker 1: he got beat and because I can move around, I
32:04
Speaker 1: can see when he whipped and I made somebody miss
32:09
Speaker 1: got rid of the ball or ran you know. So
32:13
Speaker 1: the truth is this, now, never tell he never gave
32:15
Speaker 1: up a sack. Well, yeah, because I was there, I
32:19
Speaker 1: could move, I was I was Gardner Minshew before Gardner Minshew.
32:23
Speaker 1: No one was touching me. You know, like like tapes
32:25
Speaker 1: like coaches will put together of quarterbacks and like how
32:27
Speaker 1: to do something like like the whole thing. Mike McCarthy
32:30
Speaker 1: at these tapes of Joe Montana and how he taught
32:32
Speaker 1: just drop backs and that's what you do. There was
32:35
Speaker 1: a tape of Mark of what not to do, because
32:38
Speaker 1: that's not true. Mark fans. Mark would like drop back
32:42
Speaker 1: and like whatever reason, it would be straight dropped back,
32:44
Speaker 1: but he did like a half roll to the left,
32:46
Speaker 1: like bru, what are you doing over here? He's like,
32:48
Speaker 1: what do you mean what? I didn't trusted you? Like,
32:51
Speaker 1: this is supposed to be my area. There's actually some
32:52
Speaker 1: truth to that. There's actually some truth. This is my
32:54
Speaker 1: area and not your area. Go to your area, my
32:57
Speaker 1: area alone. But it's funny. It's it's funny because this week,
33:01
Speaker 1: you know, talking about the last couple of weeks, is
33:03
Speaker 1: there's so many mobile quarterbacks now and I I got asked,
33:05
Speaker 1: I said, what about Patrick Mahomes And he moves around
33:07
Speaker 1: and they said, you played with a guy like you
33:10
Speaker 1: played like Patrick Mahomes a bit before. You know, the
33:14
Speaker 1: guy asked you didn't that. I'm like, he didn't watch
33:17
Speaker 1: very much film. But I said, I said, you're right,
33:21
Speaker 1: And what Mark did that? Back then? It was frowned upon.
33:25
Speaker 1: This was the crazy thing when he first came in.
33:27
Speaker 1: It was a frowned upon the way he played. And
33:30
Speaker 1: there was because everyone else was a statue. You drop back,
33:32
Speaker 1: you big tall guys sit in the pocket and today's
33:35
Speaker 1: football like Mark was really good Pro Bowl player when
33:39
Speaker 1: he played. I'm convinced he'd even be better now because
33:42
Speaker 1: they would let him play. His ConTroll tendency, which is
33:45
Speaker 1: to run around by time, uses athletic ability something everybody
33:49
Speaker 1: said you couldn't do it like, you couldn't do Now
33:50
Speaker 1: it's like if you don't do it like, you can't play.
33:53
Speaker 1: So it's funny how airs change what's expected. The players changed.
33:57
Speaker 1: It's different game. It's a different game. And I thought
33:58
Speaker 1: it was to come back. Yeah, yeah, that'd be great.
34:03
Speaker 1: You might die out there, right even though were that
34:07
Speaker 1: could be the Jaguar quarterback. We would be one in
34:09
Speaker 1: fifteen and that'd be the game that I play. Yeah, well,
34:15
Speaker 1: let's hope you're negative energy that Actually you know, I'm
34:21
Speaker 1: half kidding on that. I mean, uh, just it's time.
34:26
Speaker 1: It's it's deserving and uh, I mean it's Antony will
34:30
Speaker 1: speak to all of this, but uh, it'd be great
34:32
Speaker 1: for he and his family and his teammates, the fans.
34:34
Speaker 1: We are something we can all celebrate him. One of
34:37
Speaker 1: the greatest days in Jaguar history was the day we
34:40
Speaker 1: got him, and this would be another great day in
34:44
Speaker 1: Jaguar history. Uh, the day he gets into the Hall
34:46
Speaker 1: of Fame. That day is coming. Hopefully it's in in
34:48
Speaker 1: three days from now. All right, thank you Mark for
34:51
Speaker 1: your time. All right, thank you, JP. Back to you
34:53
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. Alright, Ashland Sullivan, John Osier, Tony Boselli, Mark Brunel.
34:58
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard some of those conver stations before. Logs.
35:01
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Uh. It reminded me of the nineties,
35:05
Speaker 1: six seven, eight years back in the day when you
35:08
Speaker 1: had those two amigos hanging out together all the time,
35:11
Speaker 1: and they were they were the same, like grumpy old
35:13
Speaker 1: men they are now. It was the same way, but
35:15
Speaker 1: they were just a lot younger. But did it get
35:17
Speaker 1: too We'll hear from Peter King when we come back.
35:19
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35:21
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Speaker 1: Tony about this, I've said, do not have any expectations.
38:50
Speaker 1: Do not Like I said to a friend of John
38:52
Speaker 1: Lynches this week, I said, please tell John. I mean,
38:55
Speaker 1: obviously his family is going to be here because of
38:57
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, but please tell John not to me
39:00
Speaker 1: any plans not to do it. I mean, because you
39:03
Speaker 1: just don't know. Every year, when I go into that room,
39:06
Speaker 1: I write down the five people I think are going
39:09
Speaker 1: to get in, and I have never been correct at
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Speaker 1: the end of the day because I'm just trying to
39:17
Speaker 1: make a guess like everybody else does. And um, and
39:21
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39:25
Speaker 1: that things change when you get in the room. Peter King,
39:32
Speaker 1: the legendary sports writer and the member of the selection committee.
39:37
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39:41
Speaker 1: at this for a long time. With that room, he's
39:43
Speaker 1: been at it for a long time. And and the
39:45
Speaker 1: reality is is that we're talking about a finalist list,
39:48
Speaker 1: and everybody who is on the list is deserving to
39:52
Speaker 1: be there. And so there's definitely cases to be made
39:57
Speaker 1: for one over other people, but for the most part.
39:59
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, throw all the names in a hat
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Speaker 1: and then throw out five on the table, and they're
40:05
Speaker 1: all legitimate. And so there's a lot of deserving candidates
40:09
Speaker 1: right now. They're deserving on the final list, and there's
40:12
Speaker 1: also deserving candidates that are not on the way and
40:14
Speaker 1: at some point might be down the line it used
40:18
Speaker 1: to come. That's how it works. Let's go back to
40:20
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40:23
Speaker 1: Ashland Sullivan, John Osier are standing by. Thanks guys, we're
40:29
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40:32
Speaker 1: getting ready for Super Bowl fifty four. Thank you to
40:35
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40:39
Speaker 1: was saying in break we should have a new segment
40:41
Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot Com just the two of you. Oh yeah,
40:45
Speaker 1: it'll be fun. People probably get tired of here in
40:47
Speaker 1: after a while. The stories. We could give our opinions.
40:51
Speaker 1: We can make fun of each other and say bad
40:54
Speaker 1: things about each other. It'd be humbling stars, movie stars.
40:59
Speaker 1: He is Jlo. He didn't know who Jlo was. He
41:01
Speaker 1: thought she was an actress. She's first a musician. Well,
41:06
Speaker 1: she was first on that show. The dancer. That was
41:09
Speaker 1: our first thing. Jlo was the dancer on what was
41:12
Speaker 1: the show you know I'm talking about. Yeah, I can't yeh,
41:18
Speaker 1: that's right, name good good. But he isn't fat. He
41:23
Speaker 1: loves he loves movies and actors and get stuck. I
41:26
Speaker 1: just don't care speaking of Starstruck, but I'll say before
41:30
Speaker 1: we go star go for it. It actually hit me
41:34
Speaker 1: because I asked the question about how Air has changed things.
41:38
Speaker 1: I mean, he would have been like the perfect He
41:39
Speaker 1: was good when we play. Were you imagine in this
41:41
Speaker 1: wide open spread offensive you know, we're mobile quarterbacks are
41:46
Speaker 1: promoted because that's what he There would have been more
41:49
Speaker 1: concepts designed around it. And I mean the guy ran
41:53
Speaker 1: like four or five. I mean he could fly. I
41:55
Speaker 1: mean that's what I mean. And they like remember it
41:57
Speaker 1: was like the knock on him, keep him in the
41:59
Speaker 1: pocket before the knee injury. He would have been exactly
42:03
Speaker 1: what's wanted. Now. Yeah, it's interesting, all right, my question
42:09
Speaker 1: because we just talked about it before you went on
42:10
Speaker 1: the year. I'm fascinated by the new uh, the new strategy. Well,
42:16
Speaker 1: you know, and John, you've been around this whole thing
42:18
Speaker 1: with me the last three years. Leaving up. This is
42:21
Speaker 1: your four being a finalist, and it's always been year one.
42:25
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what to expect. I was just
42:26
Speaker 1: happened to be the kind of thing. But human nature
42:28
Speaker 1: kicked in after that, Yeah it did. And like then
42:30
Speaker 1: I go back and forth, I'm gonna make it, I'm
42:32
Speaker 1: not gonna make it. And you're trying to talk to everyone,
42:34
Speaker 1: like I see a voter and I want to talk
42:35
Speaker 1: to him and like tell me, and you'd like live on.
42:38
Speaker 1: I'd like, like just hang on every word they're saying that,
42:40
Speaker 1: trying to read the time, Tea leaves and Tete, who'd
42:43
Speaker 1: you talk to? John? Who'd you talk to? You're like
42:45
Speaker 1: trying to figure out is this a year? And then
42:47
Speaker 1: you get and it's like maddening. And so this year
42:50
Speaker 1: I'm coming into it. I'm like, you know what. And
42:54
Speaker 1: it was actually partly because I remember watching a thing
42:56
Speaker 1: of last year's you know, announcement, and I saw, uh,
43:01
Speaker 1: the video video of Ed Reid in his room, like
43:04
Speaker 1: now it looked different, like he knew he was getting
43:06
Speaker 1: in probably, but he was had people in there. He's
43:09
Speaker 1: like that he like he like loves cigars, smoking cigars.
43:12
Speaker 1: There's like just hanging out and like people were laughing,
43:16
Speaker 1: there's like music, and I'm thinking that is so different
43:18
Speaker 1: because John was in my in the room I was in,
43:21
Speaker 1: like everyone's silent, intense and like the phone was right there,
43:26
Speaker 1: like it's like and it was miserable and it was awful.
43:30
Speaker 1: And I said, I'm not doing that this year. And
43:32
Speaker 1: so this year going in and I said, I'm getting in.
43:36
Speaker 1: I'm getting in the Hall of Fame, and I'm gonna
43:37
Speaker 1: act like I'm getting in the Hall of Fame. And
43:40
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try to like if I see a voter,
43:42
Speaker 1: if they're friends, all gonna say hi to him. But
43:44
Speaker 1: I'm not even ask them. I'm not gonna talk to
43:45
Speaker 1: them like it's unless they want to ask me a
43:48
Speaker 1: story or what do I think? And everything else, And
43:52
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have positive thoughts and I'm gonna trying
43:54
Speaker 1: to visualize, like hey, this is happening. The knock on
43:57
Speaker 1: the door and in the room and John I'll be
43:59
Speaker 1: there again. I'm not gonna let people sit around. I'm
44:01
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna be laughing. We're like if I had
44:04
Speaker 1: to play music, I don't care what We're gonna enjoy
44:07
Speaker 1: I'll bring some games, bring some we'll play twister, and
44:10
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll do I'm really really good to my shoulder,
44:16
Speaker 1: my shoulders a move, but it's a good distraction. And
44:19
Speaker 1: so and I'm gonna like and someone says, well, and
44:22
Speaker 1: my wife said something leading in the week and when
44:25
Speaker 1: if you get we're not saying that when I when
44:27
Speaker 1: I get in, And so that's our whole family thing.
44:30
Speaker 1: That's how we've been doing. Now. Is that gonna make
44:33
Speaker 1: me get in? Like? Can I like self will and
44:35
Speaker 1: self visualize myself to get again. No, I don't think
44:38
Speaker 1: that the forty eight voters are gonna decide. But what
44:40
Speaker 1: it will do is I'll enjoy this week more and
44:43
Speaker 1: I won't be stressed about it. And I'm gonna I'll
44:45
Speaker 1: still be nervous in the room, There's no doubt about it.
44:47
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna sit there and we're gonna enjoy it
44:49
Speaker 1: and have fun. And when the door knocks, we're all
44:51
Speaker 1: gonna cheer and have a good time. There are times
44:56
Speaker 1: in that room where I feel more storry for g
45:00
Speaker 1: didn I do for you, because she lit Is she
45:02
Speaker 1: able to take your preps? Yeah? I think so. She's
45:04
Speaker 1: super positive listen. But as much as I'm gonna try
45:08
Speaker 1: to do this, like, it's still gonna be nerve wracking.
45:10
Speaker 1: But what I'm gonna try to do is like, hey,
45:11
Speaker 1: let's like we don't have to sit here pacing right
45:14
Speaker 1: and listen. Every time my phone rings because people call,
45:18
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call because it's because they don't know any better.
45:22
Speaker 1: No one call and they don't know. Shack called, yeah,
45:26
Speaker 1: Shadow called. My son called one time, well, the one
45:30
Speaker 1: like here's the thing that always happens because they have
45:32
Speaker 1: that nowadays, they sell your cell phone number, so you
45:34
Speaker 1: have all these tele people call, and so you'll get
45:36
Speaker 1: like the phone ringing from I just don't answer it
45:40
Speaker 1: and uh and so that would be nerve racking, I mean,
45:43
Speaker 1: because you can't change that. I mean, it is what
45:45
Speaker 1: it is. But I'm gonna try to enjoy it, and
45:48
Speaker 1: I'm gonna believe the best and we'll see what happens.
45:50
Speaker 1: A new positive Tony gotta love it shatter, I know
45:53
Speaker 1: you guys love that back like the old shatter, I
45:55
Speaker 1: mean the oldest, like the negative, like bad and angry,
45:59
Speaker 1: and it could come out, don't worry, it could come
46:01
Speaker 1: out Saturday. Give it time don't work all right, back
46:04
Speaker 1: to you guys in Jacksonville very much, And uh, yeah,
46:08
Speaker 1: that's funny you bring up bringback the double shot because
46:11
Speaker 1: we got j P on the show. It didn't work. Funny. Yeah,
46:19
Speaker 1: it would have been a lot funnier if you noticed.
46:21
Speaker 1: That's okay. It is an interesting dynamic though. I'm sure
46:25
Speaker 1: that room because from all reports and he said it
46:27
Speaker 1: right there, it's tight last year and there you know,
46:31
Speaker 1: the whole family's there and everybody's there, and it didn't happen.
46:34
Speaker 1: And now the approach, you know what, for mental health purposes,
46:39
Speaker 1: might be better that way that it's it's gonna be
46:41
Speaker 1: a fun time. Look, he's in a wonderful place. I mean,
46:46
Speaker 1: he's a he's a Hall of Fame finalist, and uh,
46:50
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46:53
Speaker 1: they say it's not about ending, you know, your destination,
46:56
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46:59
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47:03
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47:05
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47:07
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47:10
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47:13
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47:15
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51:15
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Speaker 1: I want to know what's on the playlist. Since you're
52:12
Speaker 1: Mr Positive, what tunes do we ask my question? I'll
52:16
Speaker 1: probably leave it to my eighteen year old daughter, so,
52:18
Speaker 1: which means you've never heard of there's like this lizzoh, oh,
52:23
Speaker 1: she's great, my daughter. I don't really know where songs
52:26
Speaker 1: except for the one where they tossed the hair back song.
52:29
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, my daughter loves Lizzo. You're a big loser guy,
52:36
Speaker 1: probably be like that. It's so I'll probably leave it
52:40
Speaker 1: to them, let them to do the playlist, which means
52:45
Speaker 1: like you've really like knock someone out of the party.
52:49
Speaker 1: I have to ask a sort of a serious question,
52:53
Speaker 1: and again you told me is right before we talk
52:54
Speaker 1: for the show. I asked you, at some level this
52:58
Speaker 1: is still cool though, right, but you said it's less
53:02
Speaker 1: cool at the used to it. It's getting less. But
53:07
Speaker 1: I've always liked your perspective on it because you do
53:10
Speaker 1: get that it's an incredible honor. You're one of fifteen,
53:13
Speaker 1: which is really cool, but I want to be one
53:16
Speaker 1: of five that has come. Yeah, it's it's less cool,
53:21
Speaker 1: and not because the honor is any less. The honor
53:23
Speaker 1: is still just as much as it's ever been. Because
53:27
Speaker 1: bottom line is, you look at the list. There's fourteen
53:30
Speaker 1: other great players on that list, and to be included
53:33
Speaker 1: in that in the process is amazing. Um the you
53:37
Speaker 1: know this year and maybe it happen in the past,
53:39
Speaker 1: I don't remember, But like the comments by guys I
53:41
Speaker 1: played against, the Bruce Smiths thanks to ashlyn Um, the
53:45
Speaker 1: Jason Taylor's, you know, all these players, Mike McQuary, I
53:49
Speaker 1: don't want you to go lost over that. That meant
53:50
Speaker 1: a lot. That meant a ton to me because those
53:52
Speaker 1: are guys I played against like they know, like they like,
53:57
Speaker 1: especially the position where there is no stats look, those
54:00
Speaker 1: are the guys that know, and so that means a lot,
54:02
Speaker 1: Like that stuff is so cool and we'll never get old,
54:06
Speaker 1: like the nerves and the exactly, and like this is
54:08
Speaker 1: the fourth year. And I was talking to John Lynch
54:10
Speaker 1: about it. A good friend of mine, Jim for the
54:12
Speaker 1: four nine ers, and this is his seventh year, and
54:15
Speaker 1: and so like he's like here we like his family
54:18
Speaker 1: didn't even bother anything a call, but he's like, here
54:21
Speaker 1: we go again, and it's just like, hopefully this is
54:24
Speaker 1: the year. And so that part waynes on you a
54:27
Speaker 1: little bit. But the honor your peers talking about you,
54:31
Speaker 1: that stuff will never get older. Well, here's to hoping
54:34
Speaker 1: this is the year, not hoping, and Naston might be
54:41
Speaker 1: a big part of that. I mean gold started her
54:42
Speaker 1: getting Bruce Smith. They're gonna give me a call. I'm
54:45
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of money for this one day.
54:46
Speaker 1: I mean you should like I leverage that. It was
54:49
Speaker 1: the coolest noncommittal thing I've ever heard. Comments he just
54:54
Speaker 1: didn't want it. He got close and he went pretty
54:58
Speaker 1: he went pretty far, and only because Ashland. But you've
55:01
Speaker 1: never really talked to Bruce, right, I haven't talked to
55:03
Speaker 1: him since the last time we played. I don't think
55:05
Speaker 1: he likes you that much. He faked it for like
55:07
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. Whatever works, all right, JP. Back to you
55:11
Speaker 1: guys in Jacksonville. Well done. Everybody down in South Beach
55:15
Speaker 1: and John Osier, Tony Boselli the finalists of the Pro
55:19
Speaker 1: Football That is interesting. I don't know if you saw
55:22
Speaker 1: the Bruce Smith stuff the other day. I haven't seen it.
55:24
Speaker 1: The Pro Bowl, Ashlands the Pro Bowl, right, and they're
55:27
Speaker 1: on the practice field and Bruce Smith is there. I
55:30
Speaker 1: don't know if he's a captain or something was going
55:32
Speaker 1: on and went up to him because Bruce Smith was
55:36
Speaker 1: talking to Josh Allen clay as Campbell at the time.
55:39
Speaker 1: You go up after practice and she's they're like, hey,
55:42
Speaker 1: you gotta get Bruce Smith. Okay. So she goes up
55:44
Speaker 1: and Bruce is kind of an intimidating figure, right, He's
55:47
Speaker 1: a large human being, and um, she's like, hey, I'm
55:51
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55:54
Speaker 1: kind of glance stat her, I guess, and then they
55:58
Speaker 1: started the interview, and yeah, about Tony. Boselli has some
56:01
Speaker 1: pretty there's the the most notable things he said about
56:04
Speaker 1: Tony I'll say that, um, that he worked in pretty
56:08
Speaker 1: good and deserves to be in. Maybe the career wasn't long,
56:12
Speaker 1: but uh, it was. It was the most that we've
56:16
Speaker 1: heard out of Bruce Smith about Tony Boselli in this regard. Well,
56:19
Speaker 1: it's good. I'm glad that Bruce has come out and
56:21
Speaker 1: said some nice things about him because a lot of
56:23
Speaker 1: times Bruce was very hesitant to talk about Tony for
56:26
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56:28
Speaker 1: complimenting Tony, he is somewhat criticized in his own level
56:33
Speaker 1: of play against Tony, and Bruce wasn't one to have
56:37
Speaker 1: that kind of conversation much. And you know, hey, that's
56:41
Speaker 1: part of the story though, But if that Tony Tony's
56:44
Speaker 1: the narrative, they'd be great. Tony kicked his butt, yes,
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Speaker 1: and that's that's the reality. And uh, and Bruce didn't
56:49
Speaker 1: want to talk about getting his butt kicked. But you know,
56:53
Speaker 1: with age comes a little bit of humble miss, I
56:57
Speaker 1: guess you could say. And and Bruce maybe is finally real, Liz,
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Speaker 1: what the real truth was, because he denied. I mean
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Speaker 1: when people asked him about that game, he did not
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Speaker 1: want to admit and that's recently to yes that he
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Speaker 1: did not have a good game, and he did not
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Speaker 1: have a good game against Tony. One last thought about
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Speaker 1: Tony here before we we pack it away. When he
57:18
Speaker 1: came in the door as a draft pick, he was unbelievable.
57:23
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like that. I mean, now here,
57:25
Speaker 1: I was a veteran guy expecting to work over a
57:27
Speaker 1: rookie and you know, for the first couple of days,
57:29
Speaker 1: you know, you you got a little bit of him.
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Speaker 1: But I was a veteran player, and uh he was.
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Speaker 1: He was fantastic from the get go, and you just
57:42
Speaker 1: don't see that and uh, truly special, truly special player.
57:47
Speaker 1: Let's put him in. I mean, that'll be the biggest
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Speaker 1: bust in Knon if he gets in, though, I'll say
57:52
Speaker 1: that the biggest, the biggest head. Yeah, it'll be the
57:54
Speaker 1: biggest bust in Canton. Yes, there's no doubt about that.
57:58
Speaker 1: That in that whole all, he will stand up. You know,
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Speaker 1: JP a lot of guys when they come in in
58:05
Speaker 1: the National Football League, there's there's typically they're still growing
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Speaker 1: to do physically, you know, because when you're playing college
58:12
Speaker 1: there are some boys in there, some men. When you
58:15
Speaker 1: come into the National Football League. There are still some
58:18
Speaker 1: boys that are going to be become more of men.
58:22
Speaker 1: And when Tony came into the National Football League, I
58:24
Speaker 1: mean essentially his body changed a little, but he was
58:29
Speaker 1: a man from the day that he stepped on the
58:31
Speaker 1: field as a rookie. And that's very rare for for
58:35
Speaker 1: a player to come into the National Football League and
58:37
Speaker 1: to be able to play the very first game he
58:39
Speaker 1: played after missing time because I busted his knee up
58:43
Speaker 1: in training camp. First game he plays against the Green
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Speaker 1: Bay Packers, he was beaten Sean Jones all up in
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Speaker 1: the head and face area and worked him over, worked
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Speaker 1: him over, And I was I had a front row seat,
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Speaker 1: and I knew what kind of a player he wasn't.
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Speaker 1: I was literally not on the bench when the offense
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Speaker 1: was on the field. I was watching Tony. Tony kicked
59:05
Speaker 1: Seawan Jones. But in that first game here love it. Hey,
59:11
Speaker 1: guess what. There's more Baselli talk to come the Moron
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