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This woke therapist's "advice" on "open relationships" PISSED US OFF! · NORMAL GAYS Podcast

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  He told me he was in an open relationship dot dot dot after
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  we hooked up. Am I wrong to be annoyed?
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  What, you're not instantly on one side of this?
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  No. What?
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  I was expecting you to be hardcore against this.
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  I don't need to know about your personal life.
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  If I'm being honest, part of why I was excited to hook up with
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  him was I felt there might be some potential.
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  Like maybe this could turn into something more.
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  Maybe if you didn't treat sex as interchangeable with a first
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  date. I'm sorry, that's my judge,
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  Mental T. The question was, should I be
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  angry? And it's like, do you really
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  want to be angry about this? Like it's just a hookup?
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  But then when you think about it like, you should be angry.
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  Hey guys, welcome to Normal Gaze.
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  I was just talking about how if Brad ever cheated on his
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  boyfriend, I would end this show.
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  Oh, and I would sabotage it. I would create.
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  I would go Amber Heard on your ass.
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  I would create the fakest. Well, I can't say it now, but I
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  would make Brad out. You would do like the Brad
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  Palumbo files. Like I would milk it for
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  content. Alex or Alter?
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  Alex I would do it so much that Brad would try to sue me, but he
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  would be so mentally damaged that he couldn't because he'd
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  be, he'd be in a in a prison cell with padded walls tied up
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  because he keeps hitting his head going because he wants to
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  die, because I ruined his life. Well, luckily for you and for
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  me, I guess I'm not planning on cheating on.
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  What are we talking about? Oh, we're talking about open
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  relationships. We are, in fact.
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  Perfect segments, so. We're going to do another one of
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  the advice column segments where we read the advice column.
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  Where's my Walter? That gets sent, you have your
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  Diet Coke. I don't want that.
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  It's got caffeine. It's making me flushy all right.
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  Stop the accent. No one.
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  Needs the accent. Would you like, Where'd you get
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  me, my Walter? Advice column segments where we
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  read the advice column that gets sent into the woke therapist,
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  said QWERTY. And then we give some real
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  advice. Jake, Doctor Jake, we are still
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  trying to get his license taken away or.
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  Are we? Because I have his Instagram?
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  We haven't done anything. You, you were.
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  That was supposed to be one of your things to do to follow up
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  on. I'm scared, I don't want to
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  actually. I could just message him.
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  What? What are you going to say in the
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  message? Do.
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  You want to come on normal gaze? It's not going to I'm sure our
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  our video. He uses ChatGPT.
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  Oh he absolutely uses ChatGPT. But anyway, our videos about his
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  columns definitely get more views than his actual columns,
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  so I'm sure I. Ever have water that just kind
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  of tastes like the gym? Like you, you brought the water
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  bottle to the gym. So like the water has this like.
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  The air of the gym taints the water.
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  Oh my gosh, my gym has gymnastics chalk and I forgot to
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  bring you a piece of it to try. I'm not eating chalk.
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  You're the no we're. I'm going to bring it.
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  I'm going to bring it next to my phone.
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  Absolutely not. Anyway, like.
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  Water tastes is different. If you drink water inside and
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  then you walk outside, it tastes a little different.
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  That's not a thing. I can't have any conversations
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  with you. You just shut down.
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  Only with the weird. Yeah, but like, this is the type
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  of stuff that's like builds friendships.
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  Eating chalk together and talking about different tastes
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  of tap water. Shared experiences.
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  These aren't shared experiences, these are you experiences.
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  Play the tape. Well, there's no tape.
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  I'm going to read this to you and you can pause when you have
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  thoughts. How about that?
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  I'll interrupt. Yeah, sure.
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  Title. Asked Jake.
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  He told me he was in an open relationship dot dot dot after
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  we hooked up. Am I wrong to be annoyed?
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  What, you're not instantly on one side of this?
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  No. What?
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  I was expecting you to be hardcore against this.
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  Do you need more details? I don't need but The thing is,
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  is like if I were to just be like 1 and done like door
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  dashing a boy, that's what I call grinder.
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  I don't need to know about your personal life.
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  Really. So it wouldn't bother you if
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  they were married and cheating and didn't tell you?
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  Oh, if they were cheating, I would tell the husband.
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  But how would you know if they don't?
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  You don't need to know. Well, I'm OK, I guess.
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  I'm not saying it's morally right.
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  What I'm saying is I have probably been in this situation.
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  Without knowing it. But that doesn't make it OK that
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  that person failed to tell you. It's not making it morally
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  right, but I just don't, I don't think I would care enough to
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  like, freak out. I think though the funny part.
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  About I just tell the husband, but if they're open like you
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  can't, who cares? Anyway, how about I read you a
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  lot, OK? Hi Jake.
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  I hooked up with this guy recently and only found out in a
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  doorknob comment on my way out of his apartment that he's in an
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  open relationship. Hadn't mentioned any.
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  I don't know what that means, hadn't mentioned anything about
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  it beforehand. A doorknob comment.
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  I'm going to use context clues and say it's like when they're
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  leaving, you're like saying. Oh yeah, yeah.
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  Well, look at you using context clothes.
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  I know he technically didn't cheat and probably doesn't owe
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  me a full breakdown of his relationship status before
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  hooking up, but he still felt weird about it.
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  I think what threw me was that I like to have all the information
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  going in not because I think being open is wrong because it,
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  but because it changes what I thought this was going to be.
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  If I'm being honest, part of why I was excited to hook up with
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  him was I felt there might be some potential, like maybe this
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  could turn into something more. We shouldn't treat sex as
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  interchangeable with the first date.
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  I'm sorry, that's my judgmental tea.
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  I carried that energy into the whole hookup, and then afterward
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  I realized I was the only one thinking that way.
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  I I just felt a little stupid so I ended up ghosting him for two
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  weeks. I just felt like people should
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  be upfront about something like that and I kept wondering if he
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  left out on purpose because he thought he might turn me off.
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  I feel a bit used even though I shouldn't but now I'm starting
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  to second guess myself, especially since I'll probably
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  run into him again. Maybe I'm being unfair and I'm
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  pushing punishing someone for living their life differently
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  than me. Am I justified in being annoyed
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  here or do I need to get over it since technically he didn't
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  cross any lines? Now, before we get to the work
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  therapist, your thoughts I. Changed my mind I think as we
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  read it, because the question was should I be angry?
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  And it's like, do you really want to be angry about this?
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  Like it's just a hook up? But then when you think about it
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  like you should be angry because these bitches do lie and they're
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  low key stingy too. Like you have a relationship and
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  you're on grinder every night trying to fuck.
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  I'm about to project my own problems onto this this issue,
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  but I think that yeah, you have every right to be mad because
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  they are lying about it I. Think anytime.
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  Did you ask? No, that he didn't ask.
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  And maybe he should have asked. If you need here, you know what,
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  I found the solution. My issue is that if you need
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  that much information in order to someone, then you shouldn't
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  be doing it on the first date. TI.
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  Personally, like there's people that I don't remember their
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  names. Well, when there's so many, how
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  could you remember that many names?
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  It's not that there's so many. I don't.
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  My body count's not even that high.
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  I've said it on a members only by the way.
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  Yes you did. And and also the Misha was with
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  us and she was shocked. Well, that's because she's.
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  A sweet summer she's. A She's a young lesbian, but so
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  uses. What words does he use?
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  What is it? What is that really?
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  Brad? Brad P.
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  Allah, you can use the like of the description or the promo
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  code Brad P. Now back to the show.
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  And and but see I. But I have a different take.
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  My take is that it is borderline creepy and unethical to
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  intentionally withhold information from people or
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  deceive them that if they had that information, they would
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  choose not to consent and have sex with you.
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  And I think the reason that people who are in open
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  relationships sometimes don't lead with that or make that
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  clear is because they know that if people knew, they wouldn't
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  want to hook up with them. And I think knowingly deceiving
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  someone who you know wouldn't want to hook up with you if they
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  knew the truth about you or your life, whether it's a marriage,
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  whether it's open relationship, whether it's anything is.
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  However, I think you're overestimating how much people
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  care about that in the gay community, and that's why.
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  Sometimes they do. Sometimes, sure, there's
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  outliers, but I think in order for it to be unethical you would
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  have to withhold information that the majority of the
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  population, or a very large portion of it, would then refuse
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  to engage in a. Significant portion.
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  Of I don't, I don't think it's that significant.
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  I, I don't think it's that significant.
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  I have more experience. I, I, I don't know.
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  I'm out in the field right now and nobody gives about open
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  relationships. Also Miami.
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  It is Miami and it's very depressing.
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  Yeah, that's recent experience. Yeah.
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  Do I have to be careful what I say about your trysts or trysts?
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  I don't know how you say the word because.
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  I'm actually we're going pretty good right now.
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  Yeah, and as of Friday night, you were telling us it was done
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  so. Yeah, but I like the drama.
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  Yeah, we know. And it's kind of like feeding my
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  because like, I don't know, I like enjoy it this.
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  Is so bad. No, but like, he's so, he's so
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  good at handling my drama. Well, it's been like a week, so
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  we'll see how. He copes, I trust.
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  Me. It weighs on you.
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  It's been slowly carrying this. Why isn't he walked away?
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  This is. What crazy women.
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  Why? Haven't you walked away?
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  You know what I mean? You must like me.
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  Anyway, now I'll read you what the woke therapist said.
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  Can you predict his take? Yeah, OK, let me get into
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  character. What's the commenter's name?
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  Do they have a username? They wrote.
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  Missed the memo? Missed the memo?
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  Other people's relationships are complex, and it's not
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  necessarily always our job to pry and understand how they are
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  the way they are. What's most important is that
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  we're safe and we are communicating our needs.
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  And it's important to communicate your needs, unless
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  your needs are to tell somebody in an open relationship not to
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  you, because then you're actually projecting some type of
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  internalized, you know, a heteronormativity.
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  So you might not want to engage in this subject without
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  deconstructing the, the, the societal programming that has
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  been placed on you as a gay man, as A at a young age.
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  Was that good? That was not bad.
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  Here's the actual letter. I totally get why this feels
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  conflicting for you. It sounds like you're the kind
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  of guy who wants to know who you're hooking up with.
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  Like, pause on that for a second.
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  Thanks for recapping what I just said.
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  Shouldn't you all want to know who you're looking at?
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  My God. Anyway, for you it's not just
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  about getting off, it's about some level of connection.
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  And for that to exist, you need to at least have a basic sense
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  of who the person is. I'm sorry, this is just so funny
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  to. Me, he said.
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  You have to have a basic sense of who the person is.
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  You probably had a picture in your mind of who this guy was
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  and assumed he was single, which shaped how much you went into
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  the hookup and how it felt in the moments when you found out
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  later that things were different.
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  No wonder you felt a little uncomfortable, maybe even a
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  little embarrassed. Part of what stinks here is
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  realizing you were imagining something he wasn't.
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  At the same time, it's not that he did anything wrong.
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  If he's not breaking a rule in his relationship and you didn't
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  ask about his situation, then he didn't necessarily have to say
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  anything upfront. In a lot of open relationships,
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  outside hookups are allowed, and there's no real expectation to
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  disclose that to the other person.
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  It can feel like deception, especially if you wonder whether
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  he left it out on purpose, but there's no real way to know that
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  without asking him directly. And even if he did, you still
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  get to decide what that means for you.
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  There's more, but like what do? You mean, do you know, do you
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  know where I think there's going to be a very big disconnect for
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  our viewers when it comes to this story and where I'm where
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  did they meet? That's going to be really
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  important because there is a culture on, let's say, Grinder.
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  Where you're not entitled to know very much.
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  Entitled to know very much. You're not getting to know the
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  person at all. You're not going to dinner on a
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  dating app. So if they were on Grinder, then
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  I'm more sympathetic. Not sympathetic.
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  I'll never be sympathetic to a bitch in an open relationship,
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  but I'm more on this. I'm I think that the burden of
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  asking if if that's something that like you really need for
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  you is no. I think that if that person
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  really needs to ask and needs to know this information, then you
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  need to ask on Grinder because it's not expected on there.
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  Yeah, but I just wonder because he said.
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  I was going into it thinking it would become something, maybe
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  more. Then why are you on?
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  But he didn't say they met on Grinder.
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  So maybe they met somewhere else if they met on.
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  Grinder, I agree with you, that's a valid point because if
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  you. Met on Grinder and you're
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  expecting a relationship to come from it.
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  It can, yeah. But the expectation on that app
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  is, is not that. Now if you met on Tinder or
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  Hinge and you went on a date and that person didn't tell you
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  about it. That would be bad.
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  That's tough, Yeah, because, because there are.
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  You've done, you've had guys do that to you.
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  After a couple of days they're like.
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  By the way, by the way, I have a husband.
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  You, I remember you crashed out over that.
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  There are. That's why I called him stingy,
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  because they're not actually. They're not actually like you.
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  You didn't have enough with your husband.
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  And then it's not like they just need to go get some tail, right?
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  Like they're not just sex addicts.
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  They need to actually experience romantic connection with other
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  people because they need to like routinely have honeymoon phases.
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  That's what it is. They're addicted to the
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  honeymoon phase and they can't grow up and be mature adults to
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  be in an actual relationship. So then they they like date
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  these guys and it's like Polly people crazy.
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  But that pisses me off. Oh yeah.
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  And they and they do that. They do not tell you until date
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  three that they actually that. Is so intentionally deceptive.
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  And that is intentional, but I want our viewers to understand
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  that that is very different than a one night hook up from
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  Grinder. Yeah, where you're really not
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  entitled. To know.
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  And while you may be flabbergasted at gay culture, I
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  know. Trust me, we are a little too.
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  But but it is, that's how it is. Just man.
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  It's it's male culture. Yeah, I need to.
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  Male culture unconstrained from. With Yeah, yeah.
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  Anyway, here's the rest of this the therapist's response.
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  At the end of the day, it's not necessarily about experiencing
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  something particularly negative. I hate the way that he writes
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  and says like he doesn't say anything.
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  It's just like filler. It really does give ChatGPT, but
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  it's I don't think it actually is, but it gives ChatGPT.
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  He's definitely using it as an assist.
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  But more about realizing you didn't have all the information
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  to make a fully informed choice about what you were stepping
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  into. But he thinks that's fine also.
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  So I get why you ghosted him. When something feels off or a
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  little misleading, creating distance can feel like the
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  easiest way to deal with it. The problem is it doesn't
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  actually resolve anything. It just puts space between you
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  and the feeling. So what now?
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  Sure, you're allowed to have your feelings, but you don't
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  need to keep ghosting him. You've already created the
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  distance you needed. At this point, it's less about
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  punishing him and more about deciding what you actually want
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  moving forward. You might take a lesson into
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  your next encounter. I'd prefer to know upfront if
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  someone's in a relationship. Yeah, I mean, you probably
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  should take that lesson. But if you feel a spark with
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  someone, it's OK to ask a simple question early on just to get a
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  sense of what the situation is. If it bothers you to hook up
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  with someone who's partnered, then that's your answer.
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  If not, you can choose to see it for what it is now that you have
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  the full picture. And if you do run into them
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  again, you don't need to make it awkward.
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  You can just decide in the moment how much you want to
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  engage, taking everything into consideration.
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  This wasn't a violation, it was a disconnect.
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  You're allowed to be annoyed, but now you get to be a little
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  more intentional about what you're walking into.
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  Sometimes that just means exchanging a few extra words
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  before your lips have other plans.
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  Oh my God. OK, why is he saying like, what
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  is the alternative to? Is he suggesting that he reach
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  back out to him? Well, I guess the original
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  letter writer had said something about like, should I keep
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  ghosting him? Which I I mean, what are you
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  going to heat the situation? Back out to him and then like be
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  like, I'm mad and then like crash out on him.
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  I mean, The thing is, is I'm conflicted about that.
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  Because like, I'm sure you've done that.
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  To people love telling people exactly why I don't with them
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  anymore because I think it's an opportunity for them to learn.
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  Oh my God. And I am very charitable with my
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  wisdom. Oh yes, you're just so generous
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  with your. I mean listen I we have a whole
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  podcast where I give you guys advice, like share my opinion.
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  And I have to pay you as my employee for that.
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  No, we're not, No. We're not doing that better.
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  We're not doing that better anymore.
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  I'm not his employee because people are starting to believe
• 18:05
  it. I should get a little.
• 18:08
  No, I just, I think that get a little whip.
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  I think that I was put on the Earth as like people's karma,
• 18:13
  and I think like, I'm kind of like the planet Saturn, if you
• 18:16
  know anything about astrology. You don't.
• 18:18
  Astrology is banned from. This podcast, no, it's not.
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  So I just feel like karma has to work through people and I think
• 18:25
  it's best if it works through me so.
• 18:30
  That's a crazy statement. Yeah.
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  So listen, I just think it is actually a little weird and a
• 18:35
  little to intentionally like be like not tell leading with the
• 18:38
  fact that you're in an open relationship.
• 18:40
  I think the context doesn't matter, but I don't like how
• 18:43
  this therapist is acting like that guy did nothing wrong.
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  I actually kind of agree with the therapist.
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  I don't know, I just don't think it's as woke of a responses he's
• 18:52
  given before. What I don't like about his
• 18:54
  responses, though, is the way that he equivocates.
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  And so he kind of does this on the one hand, but on the other
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  hand and then never actually reaches A conclusion.
• 19:01
  So he says you felt misled and you didn't have all the
• 19:05
  information. Well, that's because therapy.
• 19:06
  Doesn't have to tell you and he isn't in the wrong.
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  It's like. The problem with therapists is
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  that they're mediators. They never actually take an
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  affirmative. They're not supposed to be.
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  They're not supposed to be, but they they're the type of people
• 19:17
  who want to keep the peace because they don't know how to
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  actually stand on. Like maybe a mediocre mediocre
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  average therapist, but not a good one, A good.
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  One is going to. Push you.
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  What's annoying is that you can just tell that he has.
• 19:30
  My issue with it is that you can tell he has disdain for any type
• 19:34
  of hetero normativity. Any.
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  Standards or like. Standard any anything that is
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  traditionally like expected of people you.
• 19:43
  Can tell Ask Jake is not? He doesn't.
• 19:46
  With it you can tell. And he's like, says.
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  He's over sympathizes with people who are breaking
• 19:51
  traditional norms. But some norms and traditions
• 19:53
  exist for a reason. Correct, like monogamy.
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  That's why we're not leftists. Yeah, that's why we're not
• 20:00
  revolutionaries. We prefer to keep the system the
• 20:02
  same because all we have to do in this system is make a video
• 20:05
  about Lily Tino and then. Oh.
• 20:09
  Oh, well, he lost. He lost an Airpod that we're not
• 20:12
  even using for this segment. Oh, we have to bring the wigs
• 20:15
  over. No I just realized we did a
• 20:19
  little Tino segment without the wigs.
• 20:21
  People are going to be so disappointed.
• 20:24
  Should I click bait them and put the wigs in the thumbnail?
• 20:26
  Of it. You've got to stop putting wigs
• 20:27
  in thumbnails when we're not wearing wigs.
• 20:29
  You've destroyed the novelty of wearing the wig.
• 20:31
  The thumbnail with the wig. You're right, people in you're
• 20:34
  right. Brad needs my consulting on a
• 20:36
  lot of all. Right, but how about instead of
• 20:37
  consulting no. I don't have to learn how to do
• 20:42
  something to tell you the. Best.
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  That's the story of my life right there.
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  That's crazy. I'm a consultant.
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  I'm not the person who does it, I'm the person who walks.
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  A consultant for an employer. Do you know what a consultant
• 20:58
  is? I don't think he does.
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  The. Employer.
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  Consultant Consultant to consult for them a company they work for
• 21:06
  the. Employer.
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  No. A company pays a consultant.
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  Yes. To go into their company, the
• 21:11
  consultant is an independent contractor.
• 21:14
  Yeah, but they they get paid by the person who's their boss,
• 21:17
  which is the company. Yeah, any when companies pay
• 21:21
  independent contractors, they're paying independent contractors.
• 21:23
  What should so that means those? That doesn't make.
• 21:25
  Them work for them. Either.
• 21:27
  Yeah, they're contracted for services.
• 21:31
  Brad, he knows this argument's. Bad, I know.
• 21:34
  I can see, I can see it on your face.
• 21:36
  Whenever I catch you, it's like this, you know, I'm going to
• 21:40
  call it out. I have rare wins with Brad, but
• 21:42
  when I have them, boy are they sweet.
• 21:45
  All right, guys, let us know what you think of the therapy
• 21:47
  advice column and who you agree with in the comments.
• 21:51
  Sorry about the wigs, by the way.
• 21:52
  I don't really know what opinion I just gave on this because it
• 21:55
  was it was kind of crazy. I liked your impersonation that
• 21:58
  you did in the middle. Yeah, I guess I'm not really
• 22:00
  here for the formative flight. Become a channel member.
• 22:03
  By the way, we don't know what we're going to do for our next
• 22:05
  one, but we'll do some fun stuff.
• 22:07
  Maybe another vlog? People, that's what.
• 22:09
  We should be advertising. Oh yeah, we should be.
• 22:12
  We did a behind the scenes of building our new studio and
• 22:14
  Clarkson talked all the about the guy that he's now back with.
• 22:17
  I didn't talk about him, I just explained the situation.
• 22:20
  In. But I did kind of go a little
• 22:22
  crazy. And you explained how you went
• 22:24
  on Grinder just to make him jealous so he'd see you on
• 22:27
  there. I don't think he cared.
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  I don't. That's you're making me.
• 22:37
  The problem with this is you've made me really start to not like
• 22:40
  him and like. You actually will probably
• 22:43
  really like him because. What, because he's autistic and
• 22:45
  you think I'm autistic? And he has like, The thing is,
• 22:48
  is he's not a bad guy. I don't know why you wouldn't
• 22:50
  like him. Because of this, the stuff
• 22:52
  you've told us about him, like in that video, and the fact that
• 22:56
  you just told me he didn't care that you were.
• 22:58
  I just said that half of what I'm saying is for the bit if the
• 23:01
  camera's out, you can't like take it seriously.
• 23:05
  I don't know. We'll see.
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  Guys. Listen to what you think in the
• 23:08
  comments, make sure you're subscribed.
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  If you aren't, hit the like button and become a channel
• 23:12
  member and we will talk again real soon.