Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Tiwi Island band B2M frontman Jeffrey ‘Yello’ Simon is calling out bad behaviour by youth in his community and is urging elders to do more
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Last week on Friday, we did get contacted by a
- 0:02Speaker 1: couple of people who had heard our next guest during
- 0:06Speaker 1: an interview on another radio station on the ABC and look,
- 0:09Speaker 1: I don't usually follow what others are doing, but I'd
- 0:12Speaker 1: had a bit of a listen to that interview and
- 0:14Speaker 1: I thought, this is something that we definitely need to
- 0:16Speaker 1: talk about. This is a bloke that we definitely need
- 0:19Speaker 1: to get on the show because there has been so
- 0:22Speaker 1: much discussion about crime and the different issues that we're
- 0:25Speaker 1: seeing in Darwin, and it seems although we've had quite
- 0:29Speaker 1: a nice weekend, there's been minimal crime, but the concerns
- 0:32Speaker 1: have been causing a real sense of unease across the
- 0:35Speaker 1: Northern Territory. And joining me on the line right now
- 0:38Speaker 1: is a well known Territorian who's using his vice voice,
- 0:42Speaker 1: I should say in a different way. He's urging tribal
- 0:45Speaker 1: group leaders to take action to put a stop to
- 0:48Speaker 1: the violent crime that we are seeing in Darwin. He
- 0:51Speaker 1: is a tee Wee man and his name is Jeffrey Simon.
- 0:55Speaker 1: You'll also know him as Yellow from Teewee Island Band
- 0:59Speaker 1: B two.
- 0:59Speaker 2: A good morning to your Yellow.
- 1:03Speaker 3: Hey, good morning Katy, and good morning listens.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Mate, thanks so much for your time this morning. It
- 1:07Speaker 1: is wonderful to have you on the show. Why have
- 1:10Speaker 1: you decided to stand up and use your voice to
- 1:13Speaker 1: really urge some action on some of the terrible things
- 1:16Speaker 1: that we are seeing when it comes to crime in
- 1:18Speaker 1: the territory.
- 1:20Speaker 3: I guess the separator put it, Katie is I'm very embarrassed. Embarrassed.
- 1:26Speaker 3: I'm very embarrassed about my people coming in and darn
- 1:28Speaker 3: and acting silly. So I just want to pour it
- 1:30Speaker 3: out and yeah, do it the right waytty much, but
- 1:33Speaker 3: also not beat around the bush.
- 1:36Speaker 2: I love that, you know.
- 1:37Speaker 1: I think that at the end of the day, you
- 1:40Speaker 1: can't beat around the bush when this kind of thing
- 1:43Speaker 1: is happening. And some of what we have been seeing
- 1:46Speaker 1: has has been really bad behavior, has Nash.
- 1:51Speaker 3: Yeah, look absolutely. I mean I can only speak and
- 1:55Speaker 3: belt for my people, the TV Island people and the
- 1:57Speaker 3: TVs so respecting cultural dynamics, cultural boundaries, however, I can say, look,
- 2:05Speaker 3: we do have a drinking problem. There's there's no way too,
- 2:13Speaker 3: you know. So it's look, you can hear to my
- 2:15Speaker 3: voice and a bit dumb, a bit, you know, I'm
- 2:17Speaker 3: a bit nervous, but I'm also you know, very passionate
- 2:20Speaker 3: about you know, you know everyone, not not only just
- 2:23Speaker 3: my people, but the drug and autcoholic issues in and
- 2:26Speaker 3: around Darwin is just a complete, complete Embarrassment's gone too far.
- 2:30Speaker 1: But I can hear the nerve in your voice that
- 2:33Speaker 1: I can actually hear the emotion in your voice because
- 2:35Speaker 1: you you're standing up and you're saying that it's not okay,
- 2:40Speaker 1: and you're, you know, like you're doing it for your community.
- 2:43Speaker 2: And I would imagine that you're doing.
- 2:44Speaker 1: It for your kids and for the young ones that
- 2:46Speaker 1: are in the community that you want to say it's
- 2:48Speaker 1: that's not the kind of behavior that we want.
- 2:52Speaker 3: Yeah, look absolutely so. Look I'm the last two stabbings
- 2:57Speaker 3: in Darwin, you know, ended up in murder. So the
- 3:00Speaker 3: last two corporates of that, we're young TV men. What's
- 3:06Speaker 3: the solution, I don't know, send them back home. But
- 3:10Speaker 3: then again, you know, the communities are not in a
- 3:13Speaker 3: good shape as well Paradise, but there's a lot happening
- 3:15Speaker 3: in Paradise. I mean, the tiv Islands have got more
- 3:17Speaker 3: drama than Home and away there it's you.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Know, it's I laugh, but it's not funny.
- 3:23Speaker 1: It's actually bloody terrible, you know, to think that that
- 3:27Speaker 1: is going on.
- 3:29Speaker 2: I mean, do you think do you think there needs.
- 3:31Speaker 1: To be more of that on country and cultural sort
- 3:34Speaker 1: of learnings and that some of those types of programs
- 3:38Speaker 1: could be the answer.
- 3:40Speaker 3: Yeah. Look well, programs come and go on board of
- 3:44Speaker 3: bread and community lived. All my life I've said, programs
- 3:47Speaker 3: from the government come and go. What what I've seen now,
- 3:51Speaker 3: which is a trend, is that these gatekeepers of our culture,
- 3:55Speaker 3: the elders of the Tivy Islands, holding the culture to
- 3:58Speaker 3: too close to themselves and not sharing it and not
- 4:02Speaker 3: teaching it at schools or you know, ceremonies and stuff
- 4:05Speaker 3: like that. So this is a call to our elders.
- 4:08Speaker 3: They need to step up. We need we need leaders,
- 4:12Speaker 3: and leaders need to get along. Our leaders back home
- 4:15Speaker 3: I'm arguing with each other, and when they don't get along,
- 4:18Speaker 3: the community suffers. So this is what I've seen, and
- 4:21Speaker 3: it's a common trend. And if you're if you're a
- 4:23Speaker 3: person that stands up, but guess what, there's a target
- 4:26Speaker 3: on your back to shut you up. And I'm not
- 4:28Speaker 3: that kind of person because I'll keep talking and try
- 4:31Speaker 3: and at least ignite change somewhere.
- 4:34Speaker 1: May do you worry there is going to be a
- 4:36Speaker 1: target on your back because you are standing up and
- 4:39Speaker 1: you're you're calling it.
- 4:40Speaker 2: Like it is.
- 4:42Speaker 3: Yeah, look, Katie, I've had a tough life growing up,
- 4:44Speaker 3: so nothing doesn't really phase Now. I'm forty one. I've
- 4:48Speaker 3: seen both sides of the law. I've been the prison twice.
- 4:52Speaker 3: I've learned the hard way to come out of you know,
- 4:55Speaker 3: how to break the cycle. But also, you know, I've
- 4:58Speaker 3: had time to where I re and I went back,
- 5:00Speaker 3: and you know, I've sort of worked out that I
- 5:05Speaker 3: have a good insight, whether it be in the prisons,
- 5:08Speaker 3: in the community, on the streets, you know, working with
- 5:11Speaker 3: stakeholders and stuff like that. So this is the time
- 5:14Speaker 3: where people like myself and others we need to stand
- 5:17Speaker 3: up and call this for what it is. We are
- 5:19Speaker 3: pissing and shitting on the streets. We are singing ancient
- 5:24Speaker 3: song lines that have been left behind for us from
- 5:27Speaker 3: our ancestors. We use them song lines were singing the
- 5:30Speaker 3: streets to bussing in the streets, grab that money, go
- 5:32Speaker 3: to the pub, get drunk, akkerfool. That's got to stop.
- 5:36Speaker 2: So Yellow, what changed in your life?
- 5:39Speaker 1: Mate? You said that you know that you like you
- 5:42Speaker 1: have been in prison, and that you know that that
- 5:46Speaker 1: you are that you've learned, you know, like what is
- 5:50Speaker 1: acceptable and what is good behavior, and you've obviously used
- 5:53Speaker 1: your life experience to get there.
- 5:55Speaker 2: What sort of changed in your life?
- 5:57Speaker 1: And do you think that any of those learnings can
- 6:01Speaker 1: you know it can be utilized to try to get
- 6:03Speaker 1: some better decisions made for us in the territory.
- 6:08Speaker 3: Well, look, kat, I've said I haven't got the answer. However,
- 6:11Speaker 3: I've got the experience real life, you know, real world
- 6:14Speaker 3: experience that that tells me that this cycle is at
- 6:20Speaker 3: balling point. What are we going to do? I remember
- 6:24Speaker 3: a few years ago John Howard threw the Northern Territory
- 6:28Speaker 3: into intervention. Now we're seeing a lot more bad stuff happening.
- 6:34Speaker 3: Now do we need an intervention? I don't know, but
- 6:37Speaker 3: we need some sort of action by our indigenous leaders.
- 6:41Speaker 3: We can't be pointing at the government for funding and
- 6:43Speaker 3: asking for more money. That's got to stop. We have
- 6:47Speaker 3: This is a black Father to Black Fallow conversation. We
- 6:49Speaker 3: need to tell our mob stop acting silly in the street,
- 6:53Speaker 3: stop being embarrassing. We don't see the Chinese or the
- 6:55Speaker 3: Italians or the Greeks or any other race carrying on
- 6:58Speaker 3: the way we carry on. What's going on? We need
- 7:00Speaker 3: to stop it.
- 7:02Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's a sad like, it's a sad situation,
- 7:05Speaker 1: and you're spot on. It needs to stop. And we're
- 7:07Speaker 1: such like the thing is about the territories. We are
- 7:10Speaker 1: such a multicultural place where you know, where everybody does
- 7:15Speaker 1: accept and love each other's culture. And so it's actually
- 7:18Speaker 1: really sad the way that things are at this point
- 7:21Speaker 1: in time.
- 7:23Speaker 3: Absolutely, I feel sorry for you know, the victims of crimes,
- 7:26Speaker 3: you know, the hard working Northern territoridents that have you know,
- 7:32Speaker 3: they've got a beautiful ower, so beautiful, a beautiful car.
- 7:35Speaker 3: Someone comes along stills that actually absolutely fool of themselves
- 7:38Speaker 3: carry on social media. I mean, that's that's that's not on.
- 7:41Speaker 3: That's that's not our culture. We come from the old,
- 7:43Speaker 3: oldest continuous culture on the planet. Yet we're acting very
- 7:47Speaker 3: very immature about it. Our young people are crying out
- 7:50Speaker 3: for love that you know that they're in crisis. Our
- 7:55Speaker 3: young people need help. So this is a call for
- 7:58Speaker 3: us to stand up, have a black fire, black while conversation.
- 8:01Speaker 3: Let's look at this communities, look who's coming into town
- 8:04Speaker 3: and running which tribe is that. Let's work with that tribe,
- 8:07Speaker 3: look at that community and say what is not working
- 8:11Speaker 3: here and what is working now. We can't throw a
- 8:13Speaker 3: blanket on all Indigenous communities case by case.
- 8:18Speaker 1: Yeall, mate, I really appreciate you having a chat to
- 8:21Speaker 1: me this morning. Before I do let you go. Are
- 8:24Speaker 1: you planning on sort of having a discussion with the government,
- 8:28Speaker 1: or with the land councils, or with any community leaders
- 8:31Speaker 1: to try and make that change? Like I think it's
- 8:33Speaker 1: I reckon, it's really brave of you standing up and
- 8:36Speaker 1: telling it like it is and being really honest about it.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Are you planning on sort of having those conversations with
- 8:43Speaker 1: any of those people that are in these decision making
- 8:46Speaker 1: sort of jobs.
- 8:48Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Katie, myself and James S. Grimjaw, we run
- 8:53Speaker 3: a business called Code Black Records. It's a therapeutic record
- 8:57Speaker 3: label where we encourage client saw anyone that has and
- 9:03Speaker 3: an issue that they want to raise. We can turn
- 9:05Speaker 3: that story into lyrics, turn that turn that lyrics into music.
- 9:09Speaker 3: That music ends up becoming, you know, therapeutic healing for
- 9:13Speaker 3: the listeners. So, Mate, I thing on offer, but I'm
- 9:18Speaker 3: having a conversation with leaders. I mean, we can talk
- 9:21Speaker 3: about it, but we need action.
- 9:22Speaker 2: Now, you spot on, I'd love to have.
- 9:25Speaker 1: I'd love to have Did you say it was James
- 9:27Speaker 1: scrimjaw Yeah, James, Mate. Love to have you both in
- 9:31Speaker 1: the studio one day for more of a discussion. I
- 9:34Speaker 1: really appreciate you coming on this morning. I like I say,
- 9:38Speaker 1: I think it's really admirable standing up and having your
- 9:41Speaker 1: voice heard, even when people don't like. Some of them
- 9:44Speaker 1: will love what you've got to say. Some of them
- 9:46Speaker 1: won't like what you've got to say. But I think
- 9:48Speaker 1: it's really you should be really proud of yourself standing
- 9:51Speaker 1: up and speaking that honest.
- 9:52Speaker 3: Truth as Gutty. Thanks for giving me the platform readers.
- 9:57Speaker 2: Thanks mate, I really appreciate it.