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How the Sausage is Made · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with our radio. It's the almost Famous podcast, and we
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  Speaker 1: are here today to make things happen for you. The
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  Speaker 1: listener breakdown everything going on in the Bachelorette, Bachelor Nation,
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  Speaker 1: also with our lives. Speaking of lives, how are you, Ashley?
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  Speaker 1: I am very overwhelmed. Why we're still like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in the moving process. We've only been in this house
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  Speaker 1: for ten days, so I am this person and it's
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  Speaker 1: so bad. And I think I've said it before because
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  Speaker 1: I've moved like a zillion times while recording this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I can't get anything done until I get the house
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  Speaker 1: organized because you know, messy house, messy brain. So it's
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  Speaker 1: just like kind of a detriment. But it's fine. It's
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  Speaker 1: this has been such an easy move comparably speaking to
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  Speaker 1: the past couple, because everything has its place. I've done
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  Speaker 1: like the big purges and all that, so it's really
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  Speaker 1: a matter of just putting everything in the place. It's
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  Speaker 1: give me a week, I'll be fine. Who puts what's
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  Speaker 1: going on? Who puts together the furniture? When you move
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  Speaker 1: in your house? The movers? Oh, why would you think
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  Speaker 1: that Jared and friend did it. I mean I always
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  Speaker 1: have to do it, and it's the move. Now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's the most painful thing because half of it's like
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  Speaker 1: you know, I keia wayfair like that kind of stuff
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  Speaker 1: that like has all these little parts and I'm just
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  Speaker 1: down screwing and then my knees her, I get grumpy,
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  Speaker 1: I'm tired. So that that's Jared putting together a baby item. Now. Now, furniture,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'll usually have my father in law put
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  Speaker 1: it together. If I buy it for the house it's
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  Speaker 1: not part of a move, then I'll have him come
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  Speaker 1: over and do it. Um, Jared can do it. It's
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  Speaker 1: just a matter of like getting Jared to do it
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  Speaker 1: is a little bit too difficult because like once he
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  Speaker 1: gets home, he just wants to chill out, which is
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  Speaker 1: totally understandable. Um. Yeah, you don't have to get a task,
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  Speaker 1: grab it, man, That's all I can say. Well, actually,
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  Speaker 1: I got a big update in my life. If you
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  Speaker 1: if you watched E this last week, you saw me
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  Speaker 1: on television. Yeah, I wanted to talk about that. Uh
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  Speaker 1: it's not that I mean it was awesome, right, Nick
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  Speaker 1: and I competed on the Celebrity Beef hosted by the
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  Speaker 1: one and only Joel Mcial, whom a huge fan of,
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  Speaker 1: who has headed spectacular um come back on his hairline.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that guy used to have no really Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he talks about it. Should I google this? Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: gotta google list. But he is hilarious. Um, there's a
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  Speaker 1: fun show. And uh, I had a really good time.
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  Speaker 1: Holy damn. Now I told you it's pretty crazy. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's an option out there, Ashley. Do you want to
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  Speaker 1: hear behind the scenes of this that I don't share often? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I go out to l A for celebrity beef.
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  Speaker 1: I played golf with Wells Adams and Brett Adams his brother. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: The day before that is the day I got my
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  Speaker 1: hole on one. You know what happens when you get
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  Speaker 1: a hole in one, You buy the whole bar, drinks,
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  Speaker 1: you sell, you celebrate. It's a big deal. And I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to celebrate the whole bar at what if you
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  Speaker 1: what if you win like a really popular bar. Oh
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  Speaker 1: it's I mean, I've been in a bar where somebody's
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  Speaker 1: got a hold on one and probably dropped ten thousand
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  Speaker 1: on drinks. That's not fair, it is. It's just kind
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  Speaker 1: of the thing, like the tradition. Well, so like Wells
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  Speaker 1: and I end up staying up till three in the
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  Speaker 1: morning the night like at his house, just chatting, catching up, celebrating.
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  Speaker 1: We had an eight am called time. So that show
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  Speaker 1: was rough on but but we made it through. If
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  Speaker 1: you want to watch it, I'm sure it's gonna have
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  Speaker 1: some reruns. It was a good time, Ashley. Thanks for
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  Speaker 1: texting me about it, because you know, I kept a
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  Speaker 1: kind of a secret. Why I want to talk about yourself,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just weird, but it's fun. It's fun.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be back in front of the cameras.
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  Speaker 1: I felt like I shined. They put the two of
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  Speaker 1: you head to add because you're like back to back
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  Speaker 1: bachelors and you were on the same seasons and all that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and it's part I actually don't know this, but Nick
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  Speaker 1: is the one that asked um, And I'm assuming it's
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  Speaker 1: a part of his book promotion. Like I think he's
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  Speaker 1: just like doing things to get out there now because
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  Speaker 1: he has a book coming out in October. I believe. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's on October, So I think it's part
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  Speaker 1: of that. So so then, Um, what did you cook
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  Speaker 1: it's a cooking show, right, it's a surprise, and so
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  Speaker 1: you walk in you have no clue where you're cooking,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, you know some people have to make lasagna,
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  Speaker 1: I think, um, stuff like that. They told us we
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  Speaker 1: had to make our own sausage, which I had never
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  Speaker 1: made my own sausage, but you know, be growing up, um,
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  Speaker 1: and you know I was. I was a hunter growing up,
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  Speaker 1: and so we would you know, harvest our own meat
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  Speaker 1: and you know, grind and makes like summer sausage and
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  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, or we would have somebody do it.
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  Speaker 1: So I was familiar with the process of what's the
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  Speaker 1: best way and uh. And so I made a wild
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  Speaker 1: boar sausage with pepper and some some cheddar cheese inside
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  Speaker 1: and Nick beat me. Uh, Nick beat me and and
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  Speaker 1: it kind of a shocking turnaround. He was really upset.
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  Speaker 1: Actually you saw it on the show. He was gonna
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  Speaker 1: make Joel his specialty pasta dish. And we had a
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  Speaker 1: competition during the show and I won the competition and
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  Speaker 1: they said, you can steal one ingredient from Nick. Well,
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  Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm like steal his biggest best ingredient, right, Like,
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  Speaker 1: don't steal like the basil. You can get around, you
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  Speaker 1: know basil. So I stole the pasta really threw the
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  Speaker 1: boy off. He was not thrilled. Oh that's awesome. I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait to watch this. I didn't set the DVR,
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  Speaker 1: but I need to watch it and rerun. I could
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  Speaker 1: go on and on about this and the fact that
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  Speaker 1: like Nick is a good cook is and he's really
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  Speaker 1: into it. But there are also times where we all
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  Speaker 1: go over to his house for a barbecue and he's
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  Speaker 1: like the guy who has like buns, a piece of
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  Speaker 1: cheese and the beef, and like there's no toppings and
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  Speaker 1: no condiments, and you're like, um, what's happening. He made
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  Speaker 1: me a pizza. He made me a pizza once. That
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  Speaker 1: was one of the better homemade pizzas I've ever had.
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  Speaker 1: He's a good cook. I mean, I was surprised. I
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  Speaker 1: felt like I held my own and that was kind
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  Speaker 1: of surprising to me. I really thought like I was
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  Speaker 1: going to get crushed and embarrassed all at the same time. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you held your own and I can't wait
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  Speaker 1: to see it all. Right, shall we speak of this
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  Speaker 1: week's Bachelor write episode after this break? Yeah? We should
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  Speaker 1: I'm ready for it. Let's go this week's Bachelorette episode.
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  Speaker 1: It's getting down to the nitty gritty. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: what the kids say these days, the nitty you meaning
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  Speaker 1: hometowns is next week and Ashley, We're going to Amsterdam,
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  Speaker 1: a place that I've always been intrigued by because I
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  Speaker 1: have never heard of anybody going to Amsterdam and not
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  Speaker 1: falling in love with it. No, no matter from what perspective,
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  Speaker 1: I know, people think of Amsterdam and they think of
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  Speaker 1: crazy times, which the show kind of highlighted, but the
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  Speaker 1: beauty and the culture, and the coffee shops and the food,
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  Speaker 1: like everybody loves Amsterdam, proud to be touch. There we go.
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  Speaker 1: How did you find that out? Ashley and me? Actually
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  Speaker 1: I just know because my grandparents came from Holland. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: also twenty three and me with the confirmation. There we go. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: if you haven't listened yet, we had a game show
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  Speaker 1: recorded from this podcast, monstered by twenty three and me.
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  Speaker 1: It's Jeopardy. It's hilarious. Ashley was so into it. It
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  Speaker 1: was so late at night and yet everybody woke up
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  Speaker 1: to play this game. Okay, Ashley, we are getting down
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  Speaker 1: to the final few they are in Amsterdam, the first
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  Speaker 1: date cards get released. The date card goes to Zach
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  Speaker 1: for a one on one, and I want to stop
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  Speaker 1: there with you before I talk about Gabby's one on one. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I get that every year we have going in this week,
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  Speaker 1: somebody going into hometowns without a one on ones, who
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  Speaker 1: are like, are they going to get the one on
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  Speaker 1: one or not? And then if they don't get it,
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  Speaker 1: we know they're going home. However, was that getting into
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  Speaker 1: two one on ones? You gotta tell me if I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 1: But I don't think Tyler has had a one on
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  Speaker 1: one yet, And this might be the first time I
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  Speaker 1: can remember somebody going to hometowns without actually having any
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  Speaker 1: one on one time with the lead. I think it
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  Speaker 1: is a bachelor first, because how are you supposed to
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  Speaker 1: sit down with your family actually and they're like, tell
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  Speaker 1: us about your time together, tell us about and you're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we actually haven't ever like had time together. Like I
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  Speaker 1: feel her and Tyler, Like, I get it, they're really cute.
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  Speaker 1: I can see them dating, but like to have a
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  Speaker 1: hometown date. That's so bizarre. By hometown dates, like most
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  Speaker 1: people usually have two ones in a standard season. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I had one, but then I didn't. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't even make it to hometowns because of the weirdness
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  Speaker 1: of our season. Um we I left and only three
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  Speaker 1: people had hometowns, so I never even had a home here.
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  Speaker 1: Your season was also quite yeah, unconventional because Jared was
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  Speaker 1: supposed to go to hometowns too and he never did
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  Speaker 1: and got Was that a waste to not have Nancy
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  Speaker 1: and Fred Haven on TV? It would have been awesome.
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  Speaker 1: It would have been hilarious. Yeah, that would have been
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  Speaker 1: really great. I would have really enjoyed because I do
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  Speaker 1: know them, I've I've met him now a few times.
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  Speaker 1: It would have been awesome. But people would have been like,
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  Speaker 1: where did Jared come from? Because they like walk in
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  Speaker 1: like there's oh, like that are a huge Boston accents.
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  Speaker 1: And then the Jared has like no dialect anyway, blah
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  Speaker 1: blah blah. Um okay, yeah, and then with Gabby, she
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  Speaker 1: I know, we're kind of backtracking. She does she's had
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  Speaker 1: a date with all the guys that she's taking to home,
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  Speaker 1: but that's because she literally was like, Jesse, can we
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  Speaker 1: take away a rose? Which made total sense. Sure, if um,
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  Speaker 1: if Logan were to stick stick around. Though she may
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  Speaker 1: have brought Logan to Hometowns, which is also super weird.
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  Speaker 1: That's speculative. I mean, now at this point he's had
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  Speaker 1: what two weeks, you'd have one group date with Gabby
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  Speaker 1: before going to hometowns. I think Logan was gone this
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  Speaker 1: week no matter what. I didn't see it working, but
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  Speaker 1: maybe maybe he wasn't. Yeah, he probably was. I just
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  Speaker 1: want to say I think it was, like I do
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  Speaker 1: I find this weird as a weird choice because I
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  Speaker 1: do know how that process works, and you do get
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  Speaker 1: to pick your one on ones out. Sometimes you are
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  Speaker 1: a little confused at how these episodes are lining up,
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  Speaker 1: so you're like, I want to bring this person on
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  Speaker 1: a one on one, and then next week you're like,
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  Speaker 1: let's bring this person there, like you brought her last
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  Speaker 1: week on the last episode, and you're like, no, that
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  Speaker 1: was two weeks. You get confused and the show will
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  Speaker 1: help like be like, no, you can't do that. It's
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  Speaker 1: gonna sound send a bad message or this. But I
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  Speaker 1: feel like this had to be a conscious decision to say, sorry, Tyler,
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  Speaker 1: I still like you, but I want to spend more
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  Speaker 1: time with Zach. So in my mind, I think Tyler
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  Speaker 1: is going home during hometowns Like now is not even
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  Speaker 1: a question to me? Now, I know, I'm I'm jumping
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  Speaker 1: ahead so far, And why even go to his hometown?
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm wondering. I wanted you to explain this
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  Speaker 1: to me. I don't have an explanation. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: you're more senior in this than I am. You've you've
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  Speaker 1: experienced them too, on your season, your your I would
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  Speaker 1: just be worried. Hometowns were really hard for me because
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  Speaker 1: it's somebody's daughter and you're like asking them permission to
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  Speaker 1: like in the most unconventional way, and it's just awkward
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  Speaker 1: the whole time. Some families are really nice about it
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  Speaker 1: and they totally like get what's going on. But other
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  Speaker 1: families are like pretty protective. But every single family has
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  Speaker 1: the right and the opportunity to like quiz us on, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: where's your relationship at? What have you guys experienced together?
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  Speaker 1: Why do you feel like each other work? I can't
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  Speaker 1: imagine answering that question when I'm like, yeah, we've never
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  Speaker 1: spent time together. I mean we did cocktail parties, like
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  Speaker 1: we've had a few kisses, but like, you can't I
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  Speaker 1: don't know Anyways, we can move on. Seriously, that's as
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  Speaker 1: if I went home or Crystals came to my house
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  Speaker 1: because I was one week. There's one week in between
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  Speaker 1: me getting eliminated in hometowns and that would have been
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  Speaker 1: the weirdest thing ever. I mean, hilarious and amazing, but
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  Speaker 1: also super strange, super weird. So okay, so that's where
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  Speaker 1: he's sitting now. Is that gets a one on one?
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  Speaker 1: As Ashley mentioned, uh, Nate gets a one on one.
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  Speaker 1: Tyler to this point does not have a one on
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  Speaker 1: one uh and Zach has his second so does Nate
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  Speaker 1: has ever had one? Ethan has never had one up
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  Speaker 1: to this point either. So it's got to be kind
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  Speaker 1: of crushing for the two of them. Now, let's start
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  Speaker 1: because it's kind of in order of how we saw
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  Speaker 1: in the show of Gabby's one on one now with Nate.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't last long, um, but probably the most it
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  Speaker 1: was the most engaged I was through this whole episode.
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  Speaker 1: Was that the same thing, same sing walk us through it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they're just basically taking a stroll throughout Amsterdam and Gabby
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  Speaker 1: does make a comment. I'm not sure it was at
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  Speaker 1: the top of their date in the middle of the date. Well,
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  Speaker 1: she basically broke up with them in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the date, but she made a comment as far as
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  Speaker 1: like she's not ready for motherhood. Totally respectable, get it.
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  Speaker 1: You kind of know where it's going as of as
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  Speaker 1: of that comment, but like it just came on really quick,
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  Speaker 1: and I think we were connecting. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it was like intentional editing or whatnot, but I was
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  Speaker 1: really connecting to Nate in that moment where I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, this guy is so sweet. Wait, I
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  Speaker 1: kind of want her to end up with him. I
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  Speaker 1: think that he is my favorite on her team. And
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  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, boom gone, did you feel
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  Speaker 1: the same? Actually have a problem? Like I were actually
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  Speaker 1: quite sad about this now because I so, I'm so sad.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't really I thought he was a sweet kid,
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  Speaker 1: but like, what, didn't really have this? I wasn't rooting
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  Speaker 1: for him, and now in that moment, I was rooting
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  Speaker 1: for him, and all of a sudden, I got no
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  Speaker 1: one to root for for Gabby anymore. I like Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: The founder of the show, Mike Flies, had been tweeting
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  Speaker 1: about Nate over the last week because some rumors came
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  Speaker 1: out about him dating two people at once. I never
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  Speaker 1: looked into the rumors because I don't know. I don't
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  Speaker 1: it's always too much. But I did see that these
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  Speaker 1: rumors got posted and then Mike came out to his defense,
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  Speaker 1: and it was pretty clear through the tweets that Mike
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  Speaker 1: was tweeting that like, Nate is gonn consideration to be
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  Speaker 1: the next Bachelor, Like, it was very obvious to me
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  Speaker 1: and I think to most people. And so I already
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  Speaker 1: knew Nate was gone, and I don't like spoilers. I
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  Speaker 1: try to stay away from them. This was just a
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  Speaker 1: random one on Twitter, and so I knew he was gone.
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  Speaker 1: I was expecting this, and so I wasn't like cheering
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  Speaker 1: for him over the last two episodes because I figured
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  Speaker 1: he was just out of there, Like it wasn't somebody
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  Speaker 1: to cheer for for me, Um, this is what happens
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  Speaker 1: when like I do not hit the inner Like yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's so, that's my perspective. But watching this take every
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  Speaker 1: all that out of stuff away. Um, yeah, I cheered
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  Speaker 1: for the guy, and I felt for Gabby. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Amanda stand was on my season and she had two kids,
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  Speaker 1: and I had to ask myself the question, am I
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  Speaker 1: ready to be a dad? And I think the time
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't ready to say I wasn't like that was
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  Speaker 1: more of my mindset is like who am I as
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  Speaker 1: a person to say that I'm not ready to do this?
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  Speaker 1: Like that is a responsibility. I feel like I want
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  Speaker 1: to have in life that I could do in life,
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  Speaker 1: And if I really care about this person that I'm dating,
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  Speaker 1: then yeah, we could do it together. But it's a
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  Speaker 1: really hard thing. As you're on this show and it
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  Speaker 1: moves so fast and there's so many things to consider,
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  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, like reality hits and you're like,
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  Speaker 1: when I get off this, I could be a parent.
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  Speaker 1: It gets hard. And so I felt for Gabby because
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  Speaker 1: I think she really likes Nate and I really I
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  Speaker 1: really liked her honesty in this moment where she was
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  Speaker 1: just saying, I'm not in this place in life, and
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  Speaker 1: I want to be because I like you and I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to say goodbye to you. But I have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things to do on my own, like
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  Speaker 1: healing and uh learning, before I feel comfortable being a mother.
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  Speaker 1: I think she would be fine. Right, all of us
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  Speaker 1: are sitting and going Gabby, like you're gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: great mom. You're gonna be coming from a different place
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  Speaker 1: than a lot of us. She's like very wounded. But
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  Speaker 1: I liked her. I can't even say I liked it.
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  Speaker 1: That feels so cheap. I just respected her true emotion. Definitely, Definitely,
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  Speaker 1: I respected her honesty, and so I felt for her.
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  Speaker 1: Um and Nate, I mean, yeah, I think he cares
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  Speaker 1: about it, and I think he was excited for this
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  Speaker 1: day and excited to see where the future lies. But
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I also have a feeling that as a parent going
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: onto the show, you're prepared to have this said to you,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: like you know, this is a part of the package
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: and you and and as he said early on, if
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: she's not like ready, I get it, like it still
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: might hurt. But he handled it really well because I
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: think he I think he had thought through this before
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: it happened, like knew this was something that could occur. Yeah,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I feel like I just liked I like the way
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: that I felt like as if this girl is not
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: giving excuses, she really true he wants him being here.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: She is growing more attached to him all the time.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Because I think a lot of people usually like they'll
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: say something like that you know, Um, it's this. We're
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: not in the right place, we're in the same place. Um,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: it's not me, you know. She said, it's not it's
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: not you, it's me, and she goes and I genuinely
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: mean this, and I really really believe her. I don't.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think she wanted to do it. I think
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: she just thought, like going into hometowns, it's gonna become
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: really real that he's a dad and it's just best
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: to let him go, especially since he's probably been away
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: from his daughter for so long. It's a bummer. Is
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: a bummer because I said, just I'm so confused when
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: this whole scenies, isn't it leading? How are we at
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: hometowns and I feel like there's no one ready to
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: get engaged? Well, are we gonna get more time because
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: like you know, how this has been sped up because
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: like now because of the groups, because this would have
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: been weak top eight basically, so then we would have
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: still had another week in between hometowns, a week or
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: two more weeks. At the end we have to Yeah,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: we have to write, and then we're really going to
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: start feeling these connections because they'll have spent so much
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: more time together than your average season. But right now
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: it feels weird. It feels it feels weird. It feels
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I still feel distant from the cast except a select few.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: But this moment for for Gabby Nate really brought me in,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: which made me excited for the next day, which was
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Rachel and Zach because, as we mentioned weeks ago, I
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: really liked their first one on one. I thought that
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: video was was cool. It would have made me all
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: teary eyed, and it's been very emotional. So they have
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: their second one on one, uh and the beautiful what
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: is it? It was it a daisy? Is it daisies?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Tulips with the wooden shoes, wooden mills, beautiful day. I
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: just actually, maybe maybe i'll this will rub people the
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: wrong way. I don't feel their their connection neither, thank you. Okay,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I feel it, but not not to this point. Like
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: if I think it was like a normal season, watching
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: a date like this, I'd be like, Okay, this guy's
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: probably top top six, top eighty. I just don't have
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's a nice dude, and I
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: liked them together. I just don't when I watched them,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: it just feels kind of like awkward, a little bit
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: like they don't know, they don't have like a rhythm
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: yet in their relationship that I feel like at this
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: point you would already have, especially if the two ones.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: He says that he's falling in love with her, and
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I am super not to keep saying the word weird
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: it out, but I'm pretty weird it out, Like I
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: would be like, holy moly, this is really fast if
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I were her. Yeah. I just wonder because there's a
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: lot of emotions that are starting to come up. This
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: episod for for a few people. I don't know if
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: it's the amount of people left, if it's the time spent,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: if it's the environment, whatever it is. It feels like
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: this is we always have that week where people start
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: dropping the love bombs. Yeah, and and this felt like
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: the week where people it's usually before hometowns, but this
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: just doesn't feel right because we've had so much little
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: time before hometowns. Yeah, but Za gets the rose. Do
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: we have anything else that you'd like to elaborate on
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: from this day other than it is beautiful there. I
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: would love to visit there. Uh. I don't know if
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: their connection is as strong as warranting to one on ones,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: but anything else, I feel like, right now, I'd put
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Tyler even ahead of him. Yeah, I think that's fair.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: So he's had two days and he's had zero. So
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: would you would you think next week then Tyler goes
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: home or is that I don't know, maybe a big
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: win on Tyler's part when he gets when he goes home,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: like maybe she loves his family and the vibes there. Yeah,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: but I don't think Zach goes home. I don't know.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I'm actually extremely confused when I look when I stand
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: back and look at all four guys that Rachel has,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: because even is a really good choice too. And I'm
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: even leaving Tina out of this conversation because in my
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: head he's already top two. Yeah, I think it's fair.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I mean I think I don't know. We'll talk about
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Tino here in a bit, but yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: so Gabby. Then next scene is Gabby's group date. Uh.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: She had just the night before gone in and talked
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: to the boys about Nate. She was obviously upset, so
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: this is a big group date to kind of get
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: her back on her feet, back out into the time
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: with the men left. Uh, this group day, as the
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: men said, this would have been my worst nightmare Ashley. Um,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I mean I just literally said I was celibate, you know,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: up until I got married to my wife. Then be
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: asked these questions have a whipping like I would have
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: been so uncomfortable. This is the day that everybody has
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: fun watching and does not want to be on. Like
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed watching this and trying to figure out what
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: they were saying between the beeps, and like trying to
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: guess how many girls that Johnny's actually slept with and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: all this stuff. Some people are saying that the franchise
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: is getting a little bit more sexual because of the
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: competition shows like Love Island, which is really raunchy. This
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: maybe was a demonstration of that and the Bachelor in
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Paradise poster. Do you see the tagline? Basically, yeah, it's
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: a lot what it says. Are you DTF with the
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: two swans on top of each other? I was really
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I think they're hugging, but that's fine. Yeah, Okay, the
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Flamingoes whatever they are Flamingo Sorry, um ok, but no,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: this was it was funny to watch. I do though, Like,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: no matter what you're preferences or values are, you know, sexually,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I I thought these guys handled themselves really well and
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: they kind of rode with it, which I feel like
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: it's the best way. Um. A lot of last, a
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: lot of giggles. It's weird to watch though, like because
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I still watched this show feeling like I'm watching my
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: friends and I don't really want to see my friends
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: like to do this kind of stuff. But I didn't
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: hate this day. Yeah, I mean neither. You know how
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: we feel we like of often times are like, oh
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: my god, why they do that? Like when Kenny and
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Mari had that eating off each other day and then
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: there was that the toe and and and the whip
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: cream last year. Yeah, and if we're just like no,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: gross stop this is not necessary. But this was actually
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: quite fun for me. Yeah. No, I think there was
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: a good line and I thought this was an enjoyable
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: group date to watch. I wouldn't want to be a
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: part of it. Um. I don't necessarily think the kids
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: should be viewing this, but it's, uh, you know, it
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: is what it is. I thought the guys rode with it,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: so it does pick up uh gabby spirits. And then
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: after this group date, Jesse comes to find Gabby to
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: tell her that Logan has gotten COVID nineteen. Now, we
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: don't need to sit on this too long because it's
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: all going to be speculation. But if he had COVID
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: and he was on this group date, I have two questions,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Where did he get COVID? And then how did not
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: everybody with Like? How is how are they not freaking
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: out that every single cast member is gonna be getting COVID.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming that he must have I don't know. I
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know where would you have gotten it?
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: And how did it not spread to the other guys
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: that he was living in such close quarters? Too? Yeah?
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I mean those those I'm telling you right now, where
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the guys live is probably not the most sanitary, hygienic,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: clean environment. Smells a little funky. You're always sitting around
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: with each other, you know, you're having drinks, you're doing whatever.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know how nobody else didn't get didn't test positive.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: And I also don't understand how they were able to
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: just continue to move forward. I mean, that's what I'm saying.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Like they didn't give us a lot
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: to this other than the fact that he got it
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: and had to go home. We will have to have
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Logan on the podcast and ask him more questions about this. Anybody,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, Jesse Logan, a producer, Rachel Gabby like, we
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: just gotta know what happened. But he's gone. Here's but
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: like does he ever say, like, does Jesse ever tell
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: her he's on and he will be staying on? He didn't.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: They didn't say like you're just going to keep him
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: in the cabin for five days. Well, yeah, they didn't
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: say a lot. But here's my here's my take, and
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: disagree with me. I'm watching this as a viewer again. Speculation.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: It didn't seem like Gabby was too upset, Like she
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: didn't seem torn up that like Logan was not going
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: to be there, which makes me think he was gone
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: this week anyways, what do you think he was probably
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: gonna bign okay? And you know, I have a theory
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: here possibly he was. They like, you know, they still
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: have to test the cast like all day long, all
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the time. They still I think to test the cast
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: like every day, which is um so maybe there's like
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: a false positive and they're just like you're out. Yeah,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: we're not risking it and then who knows what happened,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: They sent him to the mainland off off the cruise. Fair,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: fair enough, Well, we'll see, we'll have to ask ruh.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: So the next we have Rachel's group date. Really fun
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: group date there in the cheese capital of the world. Uh.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I loved Ethan being lactose and tolerant because so many
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: people are, and so it was a hilarious quote. Um,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: he was so cute when he said that. I loved it.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: And by the way, Holland is known for its gudha,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: so it looked kind of like Guda. So that was
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: a great date too. These are group dates I can
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: get into. Yeah, So I would say, actually, if you know,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: we've been critical of the dates uh in the past,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I would say, so far, the group dates during this
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: season have been really fun for the most part. There's
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: some weird ones, right, we haven't seen a ton of
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: wedding gown outfits and stuff, which you know is always
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the most awkward to me. But this, uh, the group
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: one photo shoot, the one photo shoot we can do without.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: We can do without it. But this is a cool one.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: They're highlighting the cheese, the culture of the area, which
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: is what we want to see why. It's why they
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: travel internationally so that we can see the area little bit.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: They got creative when it came to the kind of
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: weightlifting um game or competition that they did, Tina pulls
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: it out at the end. It was it was a
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: hard fought battle. Ethan was there until the end. I Uh,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: you know, these dudes are really strong, and I have
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: a feeling that lasted a really long time. Um, I
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: would say like an hour and a half. They were
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: probably you're so lying, are you kidding me? I think minutes? No,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I probably took I think it took a long time.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: And I mean, how much was that cheese? Make? No,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I don't remember the pounded, but if we let's pretend
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: each one wade twenty pounds that's and it was like
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: up to how many on each side? Like four? Yeah,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I feel that's eighty pounds on each side. After ten minutes,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: maybe you might be right. It'll be a long time.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: That's that's a long time. It was sweaty, it was
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: hot as uncomfortable, but they pulled it through. Tino pulled
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: it through. Uh. And this is where the second most
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: interesting part of the show occurs. To me. We go
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: to the group date, uh, cocktail party. It's a normal
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: group date cocktail party. Everybody's kind of saying what they
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: feel and they think, and they's kissing and there's laughing,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: blah blah yeah, dazed out. Yeah. And then we get
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: to the end and Tyler gets the rose and I
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: he's a friend of mine, So I feel like, no, no, no,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I feel like I can say this. Next sent Tino
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: has a Sean Booth moment where it feels like he
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: loses his cool and it also and again I think,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I still think Tina and Rachel can make a good couple,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: and I I like Tino, but this was a moment
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: where it felt a little bit like you've lost yourself
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: in this process. Why do you feel like you deserve
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the rose? Again? Like, I mean, we know from social
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: media Tino's watches the show with his family. Yeah that's right.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I heard that this week too, that like he would
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: idolize Tyler Cameron. Yeah, because he's a construction worker and stuff. Um,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: but he makes some statements during this like I hit
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: all the notes right, Like he had a checklist of
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: things he had to do that, um, which you know
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: last season we got really mad at a guy for
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: having a checklist on what what's the right and wrong
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: things to do? We kicked them off the show week
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: one or two or whatever it was, for having a
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: playbook that was weird. And then it felt um, it
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: felt like he had never seen the show, like he
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: had to have known the other people are gonna get
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: a group day Rose and it has nothing to be
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: said about where your relationships at. It's just part of
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: the process. I think this is a moment that lots
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: of things, but to answer this, he was a moment
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: where he truly just got wrapped up in the moment.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: And even even I, as somebody who watched the show
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: for five years before I was on it, there was
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: a group date that I'm particularly remembering that I was
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: just like, what PLA, just like not really remembering that,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Like a lot of this is not like game play,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: but like you you spread it out, you spread the
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: wealth here, you have to, Yeah, you have to. Okay,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: So there's that, Like I think he just kind of
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: got lost in it, even as a fan. But there's
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: a difference between Sean me watching Sean on you that
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: season versus me watching Tino. And everybody knows that I'm like, so,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I've been such a fan of Tino. I'm just so
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: drawn whenever the two of them are together, I find,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: you know, like he like what I'll just say the
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: way it is, Tino is very much my type. So
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: like if he if I were the bachelorette, I'd be like,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: holy moly, this man is so hot and he's swap right.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: And this is the difference between what I saw between
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Sean and Tina right now. And this is me saying
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: it as somebody who's been rooting on for Tino. Sean
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: it felt like he was in love and this was
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: he was in the leading man role and that was
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: my girl. Blah blah blah. To me, the vibes that
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I'm getting from Tino in this moment is he's an
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: f boy. This is an f boy that is not
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: getting his way, that his apparently is not getting the
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: girl's attention fully and he is shocked by that. Well,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I think you can see it two ways. It has
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: to be one of two ways. Either he is in
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: the Sean Booth moment where he is in love and
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: he's just not saying it yet, and so he's freaking
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: out like this is my girl. And I have to
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: see this happen or his mind is in a totally
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: different place. It's one of the two, I think. I don't.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you have this reaction unless
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: you feel strongly one way or another. I know. It
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: just feels like he's the guy that wants to win, win, win,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: and it's a competition for him right now. And that's
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: just how I That's just how I feel. Because with Sean,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: he like eluded this warmth. I think he's a great comparison,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: which is why I keep bringing it back. He was
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: like eluding this warmth, like that's my girl, that's my girl.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: And then like with Tino, whether it's word choice or
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: just overall me getting pisces vibes like me vibe in him.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I just it's not coming across to me as romantic jealousy.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: It's just competite, like I am a man and I
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: must win her type jealousy. Yeah, I don't, I mean
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: there is I can't disagree with you. I will say
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I expect this to turn for him. Oh, I don't,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: you don't know. I think it's the beginning of the end. Oh.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: I have this theory now and I'm not spoiled at all. Guys.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: My theory is that she has ain't done it being
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: him the entire time, and something she sees more and
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: more of what we saw, and then she gets down
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: to the end and she doesn't think she can't do it.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, Well it's a storyline to follow. I cannot believe.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I cannot believe that being the scenario that plays out,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: But I now get it, like I get where you're
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: coming from, h Ashley. We have the Tina moment which
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: leads us into the Rose ceremony. Nothing fully shocking here
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: to me. Uh, obviously Ethan is going home, and also
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Spencer goes home. I mean the most obvious of things.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know if I heard Spencer
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: talk yet this. No, I don't know Spencer at all.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Is am I crazy? But like no, Spencer had like
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: a little group date moment a couple of weeks ago.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: That was it um And Ethan seems awesome, Like I
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: would really like to see him in Paradise. He's fun.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: And I just want to say with Tino, like I'm
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: still hoping this happens because I feel like the chemistry
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: is off the charts. But oh, and I'm sorry to
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: go back to that. But I also feel like can
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Tino kind of like chemistry with like any girl, Like
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I feel like he can just have like he alludes
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: that that essence of that's those an f boy is right.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: You make every girl feel like the only girl in
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: the room for like a night. Oh who is that?
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Is that a songline? No? Thank you? I thought you're
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: just quoting a song. No. I'm still rooting for them,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: and I hope I'm totally wrong. I really hope I'm wrong.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: And if Tino, if you get word wind of this,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: like I'm rooting for you, We're all rooting for you,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: so you better pull through. Step it up, buddy, step
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: it up. Um. All right, that's the breakdown of this
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: week's episode. We're moving on to hometowns. Gabbing. Rachel will
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: be both doing hometowns separately, obviously with their chosen men. Actuley,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: we got Bachelor headlines, let's jump into it. Here is
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the first Bachelor headline. Caitlin Bristow says she and Jason
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Tartik are struggling with wedding planning. Were so different this
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: according to US Weekly. Now, Ashley, before you start, I
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: do want to say that Caitlin Bristow did come on
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Instagram today and uh speak more about what she said here.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: They did not push back their wedding because they never
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: had a date for their wedding. They're having a hard
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: time finding a venue that they both agree upon and
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: they both really like um and so they're working through
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: that right now. But according to this article tell us
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: what's going on. Also, according to Jason when we were
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: in Tahoe, it seems like it's not just the actual
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: venue that there is a little debate on. There's also
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: just like what state it'll be in. So basically Jason
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: wants it over the top, grandiose wedding and Caitlin could
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: probably have it. She'd rather be a little bit more intimate.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: She just says different styles of her taste. It's like
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: everything they almost don't agree on when it comes to
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: wedding planning, and it's really frustrating. Um. She says, like
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: she'll find a venue and love it and it's open available,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: and then it's just like he's like, no, not at all.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: And they wanted to get in married. They wanted to
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: get married this coming New Year's Eve, and like, while
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: she says that it's still could could happen. It would
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: really only happen if he'd be like down to have
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: a courthouse like backyard style wedding, and that is just
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: like not what he wants. So it's a prediction. This
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: is a predicula. But there's not trouble in paradise according
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: to Tho with him, they seem very good and happy.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: It's just weddings are hard to figure out, and once
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: you do, it's a lot of on But they're not
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: pushing back their wedding as some reports have said. They
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: just never had a date, so they're trying to figure
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: it out. Well. Speaking of Bachelor Nation couples, this one
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: is shocking to me. This one shocking, shocking, absolutely shocking
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: because of the things said about each other, uh and
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: because of how it felt like it ended. But here's
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: the headline. Actually, Bachelor Nations Peter Webber and Kelly Flannagan
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: spotted together nearly two years after breakup. This according to
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: e Holy moly, it's been two years. That can't be
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: two years either way. This is all so shocking because yes,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: they have kind of thrown jabs at each other lots
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: of shade since their breakup, and now they've been spotted
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: and it's not like they've been spotted like some big
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: bachelor hang. It seems like they've been spotted one on
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: one with each other in Chicago. Uh. They were at
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: a at a Chicago Cubs game on August end and
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: basically they were photographed together like walking the walking the stadium,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: and there was even somebody who asked for a picture,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: and the two of them took a picture with this
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: person and it's been uploaded online. Now neither person, neither
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: person's rep has commented to the News they have reps. Yeah,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: I know, right, who's my rep? No? I don't have
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: a rep. Need a REP? I mean I have I
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: have an agent. But do I have a rep? No,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I don't have a PR. Person. I need somebody speak
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: for me. You that you know why you don't have one,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: because you speak just fine for yourself. You're I've only
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: gotten myself into trouble handful of times. Um. Speaking of trouble,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Nick Vile thinks Rachel is prioritizing all the wrong things.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: He quotes. This is not a popularity contest, according to people.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: M okay, so he said, I honestly think Rachel she
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: seems great, but I think she's prioritizing all the wrong
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: things right now. Um. She said that her focus. She said,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: you know, you go onto dating apps and you're swiping
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: right and that indicates interest. And every time you swipe
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: right and you don't get an immediate match, there's like
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: a sense of rejection. Okay, I understand that he doesn't.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Oftentimes will focus on the rejection rather than the connections
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: that we're making, and it seems like that is what
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Rachel is focused on right now. Um. He also talked
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: a little bit about the connection with Tino, and he
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: says that he continues to be extremely vulnerable, um, even
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: when it's really hard. He also feels like, um, Rachel
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: would benefit from viewing rejection in the future as clarity
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: rather than disappointment. He was at the end of the day,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: it's not a popularity contest. It's not about fine th
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: ten guys that you're into or five guys you're into.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: It's about finding one person. And this is some classic
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Nick advice where I'm like, yeah, I'm not in my head.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right. But
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: also Nick's advice is always really hard to take. It's
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: really hard to be the person that is the subject
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: of Nick's advice because he doesn't sugarcoat it. He does
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: say it how it is a lot and there's a
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: lot of truth in what he's saying right now, but
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: he's also like looking at it very logically and not
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: taking like a lot of heart and emotion into it.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I can't disagree with him. I just, um, yeah, you
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: can't disagree with him. He's he's right here. He's right
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: in a sense. I would say, I don't know what
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Rachel's thinking, and I get that, like your confidence does
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: get shot a little bit too, Like I don't want
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: to dismiss the fact that, like, yes, she's just she's
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: just hurting. Like it's a weird environ room and there's
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: a lot going on, That's what I mean. Like, there's
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of emotion going on, and this is such
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: a logical comment, and it's just hard to It's hard
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: to be logical and an during the Bachelor. I mean
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: it's just hard. You're there's a thousand things getting thrown
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: at you and then yeah, you're throwing another you know,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: bachelor at lead, and yeah, it's hard to be logical
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: and love Hey. Actually big news in Bachelor Nation, Hannah
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: and Sluice Uh and Boyfriend introduced new member of their family,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: meet our newest edition, Dash their puppy. Big deal. Celebrate
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: that right, big deal because if you get if you're
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: gonna pet together, that means you gotta be in it
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: for the long haul, in it for the long. Okay.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Final headline of this week is the one that I
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: kind of teased earlier. Bachelor at star Nate Mitchell responds
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: to claims he two timed women. Now, this is what
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Mike Flice was tweeting about. Um, I we can talk
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: about it now because Nate is obviously off the show
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: and Mike Flice's tweets were very obvious that they're at
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: least considering him to be the next lead. And I
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: think that's just a given. Now. He wouldn't have been
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: defensive over him or cared at all with the public
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: thought of unless he was being considered No, exactly. So Ashley,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: what's going on here? Can you now explain this to me?
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Because I don't get it? So he said, this is
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: what what Nate said on Instagram. He said, two sides
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: to every story, prayer hands or high five hands, whatever
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: you interpreted at us. Do you think it's high five
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: hands or do you think it's prayer hands? Prayer hands.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a Christian, and pretty much some people
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: think that's high five hands. I don't know. I mean,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: I just I feel like every Christian text message him on,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: like if it's like a church text message, like those
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: are like used so often, Like people just must be
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: praying all the time about the most praying stuff. Well,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: earlier I said, can we move the podcast back ten minutes?
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Prayer hands? So you know you know where I stand. Okay, anyway,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: so he goes two sides to every story, wish you
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: the best, um, And then a fan asked why you
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: playing girls? And that is basically all we get. I mean,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: this is a kind of like a Reality Steve thing.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: So this girl claimed to Reality Steve that Nate had
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: two timed her with a woman. This is Kelsey claiming
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: that he was two timing her with a woman named
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: law Laurie Um, and they she shared direct messages that
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: led her to believe that Nate was being unfaithful. And
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: then she said to Reality Steve, I wish Nate all
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: the best. I don't want to affect his future, but
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: it's important for me to try and prevent another girl
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: from being blindsided by his secrecies. So this woman previously
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: alleged that Nate hid his daughter from her, though he
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: proudly spoke about his role as father, you know, on
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: the one on one date. And that's that's what we
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: got here. Um, okay, so now you know, you know, yeah,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's no like, there's no follow up to
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: this other than hey, I don't know if it's real.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true. I mean I would
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: assume that you know, there's something to it because Nate
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: said there's two times, two sides every story. He didn't say,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I don't even know this person, but we don't know
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: the other side. We don't know the other side, right,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: there's two top sides every story. Great, we just don't
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: on the other side. Um, but it is, And I mean,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I think one of the interesting things that came from
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: this was that, you know, Mike Flies really went out
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: and protected Nate. I mean, yeah, So the girl, what's
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: her name, Kelsey? She said that she cried for a
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: guy who kept his kid a secret from me for
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: one and a half years. When we were dating and
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I found out on reality TV. So I guess I
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: wonder one half years. Okay, so this gives us a
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: little more context. They were together for a year and
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: a half. Now she said she he hid the kid,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: kept the kid a secret. At first, I was thinking like, oh,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: he never wanted her to meet the daughter. That I
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: can understand, you know, maybe that he really wanted the girl,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: the daughter to only meet people he was super serious about.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Maybe he wasn't super serious about this girl. But to
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: say that she didn't She didn't even know that he
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: had a kid until she found out on reality TV.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: That's that's that is wild. I don't know why you'd
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: make this up. It's shocking. That would be Uh, that'd
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: be an interesting Monday night when you're like, oh, there's
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: my ex. Oh whoa my ex says is I don't
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: know how five year older or whatever. But uh, anyways,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's a story to follow.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know where it goes. I don't know if
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: it's over. I don't know what happens. But it's out there.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: That happened this week. That's all we have for you today.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: On The Almost Famous Podcast, it's a big episode. We
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed it. We'll be back next week breaking
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: down hometowns of Gabby and Rachel's season. Until then, I've
• 48:24
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