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97. [South Carolina] Charles and Diane Parker · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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Everyone, welcome to bless this message of your Crumb podcast. I don't carre
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here, what Stu Saystu? Hey, all right, so we're back with
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this episode. We are going to South Carolina, the Peach State, the
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Peach State. Stuart, No, it's not. You got somebody going there
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now, I'm sure annoyed me. So I guess mission accomplished. Palmetto Palmetto.
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Yeah, we have been to South Carolina. We enjoyed it. We
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went to Charleston, we did, but we like Savannah better, which is
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in the Peach State. A little grittier, I think a little grittier.
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Yeah, a little bit more laid back, I would say than Charleston's a
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real uppity. A lot of like cardigans tied around the neck. I feel
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fucking Barbie coming at me. It's not even the thing is it's not even
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I think people misunderstood and thought it was going to be like a Barbie movie
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that kids could go to, but it's rated PG thirteen, Like it's not.
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I know, I've heard it's like jokes like if you had like real
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young kids, they're not gonna understand the jokes or whatever, so it's fine.
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But like if you have those kids that are kind of in that older
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group whatever, there's like jokes like you know, section inappropriate. Yeah.
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Anyways, I think a lot of people thought it was gonna be for like
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PG for children, like they're with their moms to go with like daughters and
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moms to go to a Barbie movie for adee movie for adults. I didn't
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I thought it was for kids too until I tell like just this week people
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started saying, well, I didn't take my kids because I realized it was
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PG thirteen. But I mean, if you take your kids, I mean,
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I don't know, I can't be any worse than like the Shrek movies
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and they're into windows and all the jokes they make. So anyways, all
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right, but Barbie's not paying us, so why are we talking about that?
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This was their advertising. They just talked about it so much that now
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we're talking about it. We didn't get paid to talk about we need to
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cut out there. I know I am wearing a pink sweater. Two,
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I got a pink I don't want to know what's pink? Unused to Ward
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should stop, all right? So with that, let's get into to this
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episode. Charles Edward Parker Senior was born December twenty second, nineteen fifty,
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in Conway, South Carolina, to William and the Rain Parker. He would
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meet his wife, Gloria Diane Parker Nay Mills, who was born November first,
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nineteen fifty in Spartanburg, South Carolina's James and Shirley Mills. Now,
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when Charlie met Diane, she had recently voiced devoiced, Oh God, sail
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again, divorce, Oh my God, divorced and had a daughter named Bambi
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bamby given name too. They made sure and put that they made sure and
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say this was the given name. I knew a girl named Bambi. Real
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name, yes, but they let her pick her own. Then she had
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some hippie parents. Oh so, whenever she was old enough, they're like,
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who's your favorite? Do you what do you want to be named?
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And she loved Bambi the movie so much. She was like Bambi. Well,
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I wonder if they named her after Bamby, because this would have been
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I think that time it came out, Well, this girl loved Bamby so
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much and her hippie parents let her. Well, she was a little girl.
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I'm assuming when she loved Bambi that yes, she had a thirty two
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year old woman'd be like, I really loved Bambi now she was like five
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or so. Well, when it's not a bad name, it's a it's
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just a different name. Usually it's a nickname me here. Usually it's not
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a given name that someone has. But I don't know what they did back
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in the seventies anyways. So anyways, Diane had baby from a previous marriage.
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So when Charlie in her met they would get married in nineteen seventy seven
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when baby was six years old, so he would step in as a father
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figure for her, you know, being her stepdad. Charles and Charlie and
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Diane they would go on to have their own child together, Charlie Parker Junior.
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Now the family of four got along really well. Although Charlie was Bamby
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stepfather, she always called him daddy, his put daddy, not dad daddy.
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Nothing. His place in her life was even more established when her own
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father and her grandfather both died on the same day when she was twelve years
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old. I couldn't find out these were separate incidents or if it was like
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a thing. I think they just happened to die on the same day.
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Let him go together, No, I don't think so. So this event
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would lead the family to move to Bamby's grandfather's farm in Nixonville, South Carolina.
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Now, the massive two hundred and forty acre farm was actually left to
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Bamby in her grand from her grandfather, but she was only twelve at the
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time, so it would be held in a trust until she turned eighteen.
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So this the grandfather died, leaves this massive property to Bamby, But obviously
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she's a child, so she can't really do anything with it. So the
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Parkers, they had a typical family. Charlie and Diane were both big into
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church, attending Tilly Swamp Baptist Church where Charlie was a Deacond Swamp Baptist.
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You gotta get to swamp in there, swamp Batist, Tilly Swamp. I
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don't know, it's just the name of the church. I guess, I
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guess it's the name of the place. Tilly Swamp is the name of the
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time. Well, we cover those people down in Georgia. We are swamp
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people and they're real proud of it anyway. So they're living on this big
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arm that is in Bambies technically Bambies. But the families living there, everything's
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good though, everyone's happy. Everybody gets along. Now. Charlie he loved
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to go hunting and fishing, while Diane enjoyed going to yard sales and taking
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doing crafts and visiting her family back in Spartanburg. Now, Diane worked as
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a secretary in the public school and Charlie started his own glass replacement company.
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They were known in the community as good people that would help anyone that needed
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it. Their daughter, Bamby, was a bit of a wild one.
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Now. By the time she was twenty four, she had been divorced,
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not just once, because I mean twenty fours, maybe you got married really
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young, but she'd been divorced twice, so she's, you know, not
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a great track record so far. And during those marriages she had two children.
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Now, her mother, Diane began growing concerned that if she married again
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a man might try to take the property from her, this big two hundred
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and forty acre property. So Diane told Bamby that she should sign the deed
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over to her to TechEd it well. Bambi, who had begun struggling with
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the pain pill addiction, agreed it was for the best now. She also
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signed over the rights to her two children to Charlie and Diana so they could
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raise them, because she had, like she's struggling with this addiction. She's
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got these two Feld marriages. The dads are out of the picture, and
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so Charlie and Diane had started raising her two sons, and so she just
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thought, you know, I mean, not no position to take care of
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them or to manage this property in the correct way that it's not going to
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get taken from me by one of them. I mean, she's probably lucky
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that they didn't take the two divorces didn't take it, you know, before,
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you know, the land from her. Yeah, I mean, I
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guess they could have got some lord if there were some shady fellows and well,
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but I think they probably had the children with her, you know,
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and then they didn't want a responsibility of the children, so they certainly weren't
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able to go to court and argue that they suld get half of her because
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then they've been they'd have to take care of the childre they didn't. You
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can't really be like, yeah, I'll take the land, leave the children.
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I'm going to bandon the children, but I'd really like to get that
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property and saw it on. You can't really do that so anyway, So
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it was hard for the family and it was hard for Bamby to give them
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up, but the boys love their grandparents and enjoyed living with them. On
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April twelfth, two thousand and five, Charlie didn't show up to work at
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his glass company. Bamby also could not get hold of Diane, who she
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was supposed to go antique INGI with. Unable to reach either of them,
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two employees of the glass plant and Charlie Junior headed over to the farmhouse to
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check on them. When they walked in, they were horrified by the scene.
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They immediately call nine one one and there was screaming in the background.
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As the employee described the crime scene, there was blood everywhere and it was
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a parent. Charlie and Diane were both dead. Yeah, the employees you
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know, going through everything that he's seeing. But you can hear Charlie Junior
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screaming the background, like going like my mom, my dad, Like they're
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they're dead. Yeah. Police arrive on seeing as word starts getting around the
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community what had happened out there at the farmhouse Bambi, who still did not
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know what had happened, as she was living in Myrtle Beach at the time
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and trying to get hold of her mom again. Now this time she called
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the glass shop, where an employee answered and told her that her mom and
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dad were both dead. Yeah, just flat out. It's like, hey,
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sorry, yeah, sorry, you didn't hear their dead. Yeah,
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well this is two thousand and five, this is pre no. Facebook was
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a thing, but it was only for college students. You had to have
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a college remember that, I don't know. You had to have you could
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so my Space was like the one everybody could do and then you were friends
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with Tom. But Facebook, Facebook, you only could do it if you
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had a college email addressed to verify was only for college students. It's okay,
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Stude's just knocking things over and blames it on the at anyways. But
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yeah, Facebook was only for college dude, So yeah, she's just I
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mean I could call up the glass plant and be like, oh, y,
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have you heard from him? I mean you didn't expect anything but that.
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I mean, that's just not even on the radar. You'd be like,
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oh, yeah, you would think, oh, you know, it
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was an emergency and you know, dad baby had a heart attack, had
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to run at the hospital, and that's where moms with him. Yeah,
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so they don't even know. They're just like, I don't know, they're
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dead. They're at the farmhouse. They're dad would on the Yeah, were
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they in a wreck farming accident? What happened? What? We don't know.
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Yeah, they're just dead. That's just it. Stude, they're just
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dead. I'd be a terrible phone call to Yes, it is a terrible
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phone call. Well anyways, anyways, So, needless to say, Bambi
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was in shock and her and her new boyfriend, whom she was currently living
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in with, headed over to the farm. While initially coming up on the
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scene, investigators thought this was a robbery turned murder. However, when they
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started looking around, things were disheveled, but nothing of real value was taken.
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It didn't like your typical home robbery. It looked more like a home
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invasion. They learned that both Charlie and Diane had been shot to death.
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Charlie was found in the bathroom and Diane in the bedroom. Something interesting they
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did find, and the most promisingly, was four blood drops on the carpet
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moving away from Diane's dead body. So it looked like somebody had cut themselves
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and as they were walking away from Diane that they were just trailing blood behind
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them. Yeah, and they knew it wasn't because of how it was dropped.
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They knew that where Diane had been shot, that's where she died,
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So there was no getting shot and then moving or anything. That they knew
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those four blood drops were from the killer, So yeah, that they weren't
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from her because she didn't she didn't continue moving after she was shot. The
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investigators collected the blood evidence to run for a DNA match so that they could
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see if they had any further suspects in this system. Yes. Now police
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spoke to the family. This included Bamby and boyfriend Rick. Now they learned
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that tensions had been running high in the family. Can't be too high.
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They were about to go antiquing together. It's not like they were going axe
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throwing where it's like angry or something Antiquing's a very docile activity than usually ends
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with like getting a coffee or a tea or something a little salad or sandwiches.
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Yeah, getting some lamp at a tea cup. Anyway, So they
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had learned that Bamby had been working over the years to get her life in
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order after giving up her two sons. Now she met this man, Rick
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Gagnon Gagnon, I guess how you pronounce him at her dad's glass shop.
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Well, they hit it off. Rick was a good influence on Bamby.
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He helped her overcome her pill addiction. They ended up moving into a home
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together out in Myrtle Beach. At this point in time, Bamby was pretty
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stable. She had over or she you know, she been off the pills.
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That's something you never completely overcome, you know. It's a daily struggle.
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Stoo. I mean, yes, I don't know. I don't either,
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So I've based on what I've seen on the Vanderpump rolls. It's it's
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a lifelong thing trying to make to maintain sobriety. So I'll whether it be
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pills or whatever, it all comes back to vanderpump Roules. Yes, so
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she's all comes back to Kelly Clarkson. Okay, yeah, it does all
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come back to Kelly clarks anyways. Um, so she's pretty stable at this
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point. She's got this good home. She's got Rick. He is a
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boyfriend, but he seems to be a good influence in her life and everything
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like that. And she has decided that she wants her boys back and to
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come live with her. Kid Now, her two sons would have been around
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eight and ten at this time, and they had been living with their grandparents
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for a few few years and they loved it. They're outdown on their farm.
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They loved their grandma and grandpa. Very stable, atmosphere, forum,
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dinner on the table every night, you know, structure. Well, Bamby
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begged her mom to let the boys come live with her. Well Diane,
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She finally agreed, but just two weeks later started second guessing her decision.
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She felt the boys should continue living at the farm. Now, Bamby,
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she obviously disagreed. She wanted him to come live with her, and they
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are eight and ten. If she turned her life around, there's still time
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for her to the memories they could have. If she is stable to be
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through their teenage years and stuff like that, to still remember growing up with
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their mom and stuff like that. So, I mean, I see,
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I would be concerned about the boyfriend, even though he seems to be a
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good influence. They're not married or anything that, So you don't know how
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it's stable that situation is. Is that what? That's what my family thought
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about. You shut up, Steward, know they didn't. Our parents are
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both of our parents were just happy we found someone to put up with the
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other one pretty much everyway. So the argument was going on at the time
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of the murders of where the boys were going to live. So Bamby also
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admitted to be police that there had been an ongoing feud between her mother and
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Bamby over that control of that farmland. Now, Diane wanted to ensure the
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land was still in the family so that Bamby's two boys could inherit it some
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day. She did not trust Bamby to hang on to that land. She
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was afraid she would lose it to an ex husband, or sell for drugs,
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or squander the money away on something else. And she Diane was crazy.
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I mean, it was a real possibility that's why Bamby signed it over
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in the first place. Yeah, and it's not like Diane was taking the
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land. Her mom was taking the land from her and like what was she
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going to do with it? Yeah, there was Yeah, she was living
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on it with the her two sons. You know. It wasn't like they
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were selling off the property and like so and spend the money on Yeah.
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So she really was just trying to hold on it for the boys. Obviously,
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Bamby didn't agree with this because she has turned her life around and she
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wanted that land back and she wanted her boys back. Well. Rick didn't
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like the way that they treated Bamby. He felt they were being controlling over
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her life and they just didn't trust you. Okay, down, Rick,
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You've only been here five minutes. They were here for the first That's what
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I want to tell some people that are like or I've anyways, I'm not
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gonna use the example. I want to when somebody said to be like I
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was here for the first wife dot, They're like, I was here for
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the first two husbands. You're not even married yet, Rick, So shout
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they fuck up. Okay, So anyway, so Rick's you know, talking
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to Baby and probably fueling it from his side, and Diane's trying to just
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do what's best for the boys and everything like that. So please are listening
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to all this And this kind of stuck out to them because no one else
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seemed to have an issue with Charlie and Diane except Bamby and Rick. They
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asked for their alibi, and both Rick and Baby said they were at home
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in Myrtle Beach. They said the boys were there as well, but in
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their room. They tested the two of them for a gunshot residue, but
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both of those both of them came back negative. Now, after the interview,
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they took Bamby and Rick back to the farm where their car was dropped
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them off. Police started looking into this feud between Bamby and Diane when they
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found that police had actually had to go to the farm just four months prior
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to the murders to handle a domestic dispute. Diane had called nine one one
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after herself and Bamby had gotten into an argument over the boys and she felt
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threatened by Bamby. Dumb dumbo. Building to suspense? You building suspense,
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do you think? Yeah, Without the sound, it's just hard to have
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a lot of suspense when one of the people's name is Bamby. To take
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it seriously, you think it's not that menacing. It's like antiquing, It's
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like, it's just it's not And then Mickey Mouse shouting, yeah, I
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mean, it's just it's not a menacing it's not a menacing name. You
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know. When police arrived, Bamby had already left, but they spoke to
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Diane and it was all caught on the police officer's body camp. She told
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the officer that Bamby was screaming at her and that she had tried to rip
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the phone out of her hand. She also told the officer that she was
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scared of her own daughter. She also told him that if anything happened to
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her, Bamby should be considered suspect number one. Well, she said Bamby
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was responsible. That you you've had it in a few extra words. But
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that's okay for dramatic effect, I guess, yeah, Well, Bamby would
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responsible, would be responsible if anything happened to her. Yes, Anyway,
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the police did not feel that Bamby could do this on her own. However,
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they didn't think she actually had the heart to kill her own parents.
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They believed that she had to have an accomplice, and they believed that accomplice
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would be Rick. Rick seemed to be defensive of Bamby. They figured that
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he loved her and then he would do anything for her up to and including
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often. And also you have to think about the land. You know a
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lot of money the land. Well, the land I believe at the time
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was valued at like a million dollars. This isn't a small there's two hundred
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and forty acres apparently like prime real estate. So a million bucks for this
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this piece of land. That's a lot of money. If you don't have
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any nice little retirement. Yeah, if you invest that right, you could
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not work for the rest of your life. You invest it in a SMP
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five hundred, which has you're gonna give us some financial historical eight to ten
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percent returns and you live off the dividends. You just have to learn to
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live about off about eighty two hundred thousand dollars. So anyway, so what
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do you don't even have to take anything out of it. You just live
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off the dividends. But inty ways, with this new interest in Bambi and
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Rick, they went to go talk to them. They obtained their shoes from
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the day before to test for blood. Now, they also brought them in
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for a polygraph test, which Bamby felled. Which again I don't give fuck
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about these polygraph tests. Like I said, the Green River killer, he
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passed his okay, Like what is it matter? Now? They also,
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I mean, Bamby been on pain killers for years. You know, she
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got her nerves are shot, all right, she can't handle this is probably
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They also brought them in or they tested Rick's shoes and found that he had
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a very small amount of Charlie's blood on his shoes. Now Bamby's shoes had
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no blood on them. With this new information, they brought Bamby and Rick
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back in for questioning. Now keep in mind this evidence was collected not the
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day of the murder. This was collected the next day whenever they they didn't
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do all this testing on the day of the actual murder. So they confronted
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them individually with the blood evidence on the shoe. They both had the same
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story. Now, after the police dropped them back off at the farm the
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day of the murders, after they had been interviewed the first time. Remember
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we said they were taken back out to the farm's that's where their car was.
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Bamby realized she had forgotten her purse with her keys and cell phone in
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it in the police car, and so they didn't have anything. They didn't
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have keys in the cars and have phone or nothing. Now with no way
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to get a hold of the officer that dropped them off because she said she
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forgot her phone in there. She told Rick that they could just drive her
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mom's car and get her person the next day because her mom's car was sitting
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there. Everything like that. She was just ready to get home, you
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know, after this being questioned and everything, well, she asked Rick to
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go in the house, which police had already cleared, so there was no
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issue with going inside and getting the keys. They said, it's good to
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go in. We got all evidence, we can the houses yours to have
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to clean up, you know. So Rick said he went in and found
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the keys. When he heard Bamby outside screaming and crying calling for her mom.
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Well, Rick walked into the bathroom where Charlie had been murdered and closed
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the blinds. He did not want baby to see the blood everywhere. Now,
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that is when he says he stepped in the blood. Now police weren't
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buying this story. They begin yelling at Baby, saying I know you killed
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them, and she continued to deny it. The lead investigator tells the officers
24:03
to arrest her for two counts of murder. A similar thing happens to Rick,
24:07
and both find themselves sitting in gael cells awaiting charges. You know,
24:11
the two kids just sitting at home like the worst mom and then worst mom
24:15
and boyfriend. Yeah, well I don't think they were well yeah, I
24:18
guess they might have been eight and ten. No, well, today you'd
24:22
get arrested apparently doing that. But back in two thousand and five you could
24:25
leave an eight and a ten year old at home. Yeah, today though
24:27
you couldn't. We've gone completely like Psycho. You can't. You can't let
24:33
the older sibling baby sit the younger siblings anymore. Although ten's a little young.
24:37
But I mean you can but tell something happens then all of a sudden,
24:41
it's going to be a problem. No sudden, you're yeah, you're
24:42
in trouble. I mean, we would never let the two year old babysit
24:45
the one year old when we were here, But I'm not talking about like
24:48
I was gonna let her take him a swimming now, But I read a
24:52
thing where a mom got arrested because she left like the fourteen year old home
24:55
with like the twelve twelve year old or something. Yeah, I heard about
24:59
that she had to go to work. Yeah, it's like they used to
25:02
do that all the time back in the day. It's ridiculous. Anyways,
25:06
it's about child and dangerment or some sort of bullshit. Now, six months
25:10
would go by and they eventually had to let baby go as they did not
25:14
have enough to charge her with the murders and she was not rolling over on
25:18
Rick. Yeah, she's I don't know if they she did sit in jail
25:22
for six months, so I don't know if she didn't have the money to
25:25
post a bond, or if she wasn't given the option, or who knows.
25:29
This is some fucking backwoods. This is some justice over here, some
25:33
weird ass shit going on in this small town. Just like, let's just
25:37
pick a murderer and hope for the best, throw a penny in a wishing
25:42
well, and hope we catch a motherfucker. Now, police claim they had
25:48
enough to go with the charges on Rick for both murders, so he would
25:53
be going to trial. It would take three years sitting in jail, but
25:57
in two thousand and eight finally began. The prosecution brought forward the motive of
26:03
money, as the farm property was worth over a million dollars like Kara said,
26:10
and the custody of the children. So they're gonna they're gonna go with
26:12
this thing. That baby wanted them dead because she wanted the money, wanted
26:18
the kids, and they were controlling her life and everything like that, and
26:25
even though she was just going to go antiquing with her mom's. Yes,
26:29
it doesn't make sense why we did that one where that girl went walking with
26:33
the sister in law, oh while murdering her husband over in h Yeah,
26:41
but if she wasn't going on she Yeah, but I guess that was I
26:45
mean, it wasn't a person that she was going to kill though, No,
26:48
but it was the sister That was pretty terrible. Yeah, that was
26:49
pretty awful. And then she had her kids walk in and find the body.
26:52
Anyway. Yes, Now, the prosecution presented the evidence of the blood
26:59
on Rich and when the defense tried to argue that Rick got the blood on
27:03
the shoe from stepping into the bathroom to close the blinds. The prosecution came
27:08
back with evidence contradicting his story. They had crime scene photos that were taken
27:15
before Rick said he entered the home where the blinds were already clearly closed.
27:21
So the prosecutionist hand that he lied. Now I have taken issue with this
27:26
because I was, okay, I haven't ever listened to the Up and Vanished
27:32
season that was the big thing. How many ever years ago with the terror
27:38
Grinstead, I think it's the lasting case where the guy, the Paine Lindsay
27:42
guy, he went and started interviewing about this lady and like stirred all the
27:48
stuff up. So when he was got it got solved because he started asking
27:51
all these questions around town and people started getting nervous, and because it'd been
27:53
like ten years or something like that, and then all of a sudden,
27:56
this guy comes in and just starts you know, if you think you got
28:00
of got away with something that happened ten years ago, and then all of
28:03
a sudden someone comes in and just like basically lives in your town and just
28:07
asking people, and then millions of people started listening to a podcast about it.
28:11
It starts making you nervous. So anyway, so the case got solved.
28:15
But I will say that what reminded me of this was that they had
28:21
gone in to assess the crime scene because Tara had gone missing, and they
28:26
go into her house. Well her the family member said that, or the
28:30
friends and family that had gone in first said that her bed was unmade,
28:34
there was cat poop because she had a cat cat poop in the cat box,
28:37
and stuff like that that needed to be cleaned or whatever, and all
28:41
this stuff was happening they said when they went where the house was released back
28:44
to them. When they went in, the bed had been made and the
28:48
cat poop and stuff had been cleaned out. So what I'm saying is like,
28:51
just because there's photos of it, doesn't mean that some dumbass like person
28:56
do in there with the crime scene had didn't go and open the blinds to
28:59
get more light in there or whatever. We don't know. This is like
29:03
Keystone cops out here doing this shit. Yeah, he could have taken some
29:07
photos walking into the bathroom and then he's like, I need more light to
29:11
take pictures on the floor, so he opens the blinds to take him.
29:14
Yeah. So the same person that took pictures of the closed blinds could have
29:15
been the same guy that opened him. Yeah, or so to me,
29:18
that doesn't really say one thing. Also, maybe he did. Maybe he
29:22
just wanted to look in the bathroom because it was like morbid curiosity because there's
29:26
it was, where the crime scene was. We don't know, we don't
29:30
know. I just wanted to be a lucky loose. It just seemed like
29:32
this is a lot to pin a murder on somebody, especially when you release
29:36
the house back to him, and especially since the Yeah, anyway, and
29:40
you didn't clean it up. Nobody's been called in to clean up though,
29:42
Well, no, that's my family's responsibility. Well, yes it is.
29:45
But unfortunately, but that didn't They didn't check his shoes the day of the
29:49
murder before that. These are not like, this is not a well run
29:56
crime investigation at all. No, I'm not even sure that how they got
29:59
a trial and they're trying to hang this on how the prosecution's for three years.
30:03
Yeah, we're good for this. Yeah, this sounds like a good
30:06
case. So the prosecution also brings forward a jailhouse snitch I mean informant by
30:12
the name of Robert Mullins, and he tells the jury that Rick had told
30:17
him about the murders in great detail while in prison. The defense argued that
30:22
other than the blood on the shoe, there was no other evidence against Rick.
30:26
It was all circumstantial. The defense also claimed that the jailhouse informant had
30:33
presented himself as a friend to Rick and that he had simply Rick had simply
30:37
talked about the case with him. Rick never said that he murdered anybody,
30:44
and Rick would know more details. Drink, I think I will. Anyways,
30:52
Rick probably did know more details about the murder than your everyday Joe because
30:56
he's dating the woman, the daughter, you know, so they got a
31:00
little information. This isn't I'm all fourd if Rick is like the one who
31:06
killed him, fine, let's put him in jail. But these like weak
31:08
cases that they got going on. The one from last last episode with Terry
31:12
Rouse, like that was a little bit sketchy. This is getting a little
31:15
sketchy for me. I'm not feeling really confident about this, not feeling confident
31:19
in the justice system at the moment now. The defense argued that Rick's DNA
31:26
did not match the DNA found in the blood drops at the crime scene,
31:30
and they never found the match to those blood. Yeah, the four drops
31:33
from the actual murderer that they does not match Bamby, does not match um
31:38
Rick. They don't know who it matches too. So they're just like,
31:41
well, forget about it. Well, the prosecution has thrown all this shit
31:45
on the wall to see what was stick. So they threw another piece,
31:48
and they're saying that Rick and Bambley had another accomplice that probably dropped the blood.
31:56
But they have a person into this. Yeah, they're just they're just
32:00
gonna be like, yeah, there was a third person. Now. The
32:02
case went to the jury and the jury found Rick guilty on both charges and
32:09
he was sentenced to two life sentences. Jury. I don't know what's wrong
32:13
with this jury either. I mean, like, this is yes, we
32:17
give our opinions and this if we haven't noticed, but this is ridiculous.
32:21
Anyways, So Baby moved on with her life. Her sons believed, actually
32:25
believed that she did have something to do with the murders, and they turned
32:29
on her. They're like, I don't have anything to do with you.
32:31
They completely out of her life. I guess they went and lived with other
32:37
family members, but they didn't want anything to do with Bamby. Now Rick
32:39
sat in jail working with lawyers on an appeal. Now, in two thousand
32:44
and nine, there was a new development in the murders. Now the blood
32:47
from the crime scene had been entered into CODIS and it finally got a hit.
32:52
A thirty three year old man named Bruce Antoine Hill had been arrested in
32:57
Tennessee after a home invasion. He and a was taken and put into the
33:01
CODA system and a match was found with this information, Hill was arrested and
33:06
charged with the murders. Now, in twenty eleven, he went on trial
33:09
and was convicted. So he's convicted of Charlie and Diane's murders. Like,
33:15
he went on trial, convicted everything. Now, during this time, police
33:17
believe that that this was the accomplice. They can't with it. This was
33:22
the accomplice of Rick, and they're like, wow, we've done great police
33:25
work with was good banding. Now, so anyway, so that this is
33:34
the guy they've been looking for all this time that helped Rick commit the murders.
33:37
Now, they spoke to Hill and he said he did not know Rick
33:39
and he had never heard of him. He didn't really say it like that.
33:42
I think he said, what the fuck are you telling about? He
33:45
said, I've never met that cracker. I think it's what he called am
33:49
I allowed to say that, that's what he said. Anyways, this was
33:54
Rick's key to freedom. He just needed he'll to admit this to a judge
33:58
while under oath. Well, this guy refused. He's like, fuck this
34:01
guy, or when I'm not helping him? So both Hill and Rick sat
34:05
in prison well. Rick's lawyers continue to work on his appeal and finally caught
34:08
a break when another inmate testified that his appeal hearing that the original Gelhouse of
34:14
informant, Robert Mullins, admitted to lying about Rick confessing to the murders.
34:20
So another Gelhouse informant turned on the Gelhouse informant and said, he said,
34:24
oh, I lied about that. I was just fucking round with that guy.
34:27
Yeah. I needed an extra pudding cup or something that whatever they gave
34:31
him whatever. Yeah. So with this new information, the judge finally granted
34:37
Rick a new trial, and he was released from prison in February of twenty
34:40
thirteen. Because the judge said that if they didn't even care about the fact
34:45
that they actually found the murderer, based on the DNA. The judge didn't
34:49
care about any of that because the police were arguing that the prosecution was arguing
34:52
they were accomplices. The judge granted the new trial because without that informant,
35:00
he didn't believe that would have could have possibly changed the outcome of the case
35:04
of the original trial, right, So that's why he got the new one.
35:07
So finally in twenty fifteen, so two years after he's released, they're
35:12
still trying to like they still got him as a suspect, like, they're
35:15
still working on trying to retry him and everything. Finally, twenty and fifteen,
35:19
a new prosecutor comes into town and he finally just drops the case against
35:23
Rick. So this guy went through all this because that some prosecutor before had
35:29
a fucking heart on to come after this guy because they didn't know what they
35:32
were going to do to solve this martyr. Most likely well, they didn't
35:36
want to admit that they were wrong after they found the actual killer, instead
35:38
of saying, oh man, we really messed this up. Well, did
35:43
they get Robert Mullins put a thousand and as commissari to get him the line?
35:46
I don't know what they did, but I'm just saying, I'm wondering
35:50
if they did some of the nefarious ship to get this guy. But what
35:52
I'm saying is that even that when they saw that they were clearly wrong about
35:55
this, they never went and admitted it. And we're just gonna let a
35:59
guy sit in prison for the rest of his life, which is really messed
36:00
up. No, that's what they do. I don't think I've ever heard
36:05
one where they're like, oh, well, we're sorry, we messed up.
36:07
Well, we'll get chatted in jail, right life. Yeah, that
36:10
doesn't happen, does it now. I never hear them just oh yeah,
36:15
man, sounds like my dad whoops, ten years, twenty years. They
36:20
admit that, then they get opened themselves up to being sued, and then
36:22
the next thing, you know, they should be yeah, they ought to
36:27
do the time that they made. That's a bit sir. Yeah, anyway,
36:30
especially if they're if they did do it on purpose because they were looking
36:35
for somebody to get for the crime. Anyway, So Bambi's son sons,
36:42
both of them did eventually come around to the fact that their mom did not
36:45
have anything to do with their grandparents murder. They were able to rebuild their
36:51
relationship. Rick went on to start a life outside of prison, and he
36:55
did get married, but not to Bamby, and he now had children and
37:00
he's living on the coast in South Carolina. Ye as far as we know.
37:06
Yeah, so it he was thankful and the guy that actually killed them
37:10
is sitting rotting in jail. So all right, so that's our case for
37:15
this week. I will it is a little bit sad because the fact that
37:19
Charlie and Diane were the murder victims, but it ended up whenever we're going
37:22
through this, she's you almost not forget about him. But Rick became a
37:28
victim in this too. Eight years of his life were taken away and all
37:31
this and you kind of lose focus from the original. Bambi became a strange
37:36
from her children because yeah, because of all this, because the police just
37:39
were set on penning them for this murder because it was the easy target.
37:45
And Bambi and Rick broke up. Yeah, and apparently and the heel guy,
37:51
he apparently was just a random home invasion. He just found this property
37:55
and just that's what he did. He didn't even take anything. Oh him
38:00
might have, We just don't know what he took. Unlus it was just
38:01
cash. Well though, it seemed like he just did home invasions, like
38:06
this was just his thing. I don't know. Well, they usually in
38:10
a home invasion, they normally just take something small that they can carry in,
38:14
whether it be cash or something that they can carry in. They didn't
38:17
say what he took, but it didn't seem like he took anything. He
38:21
was just he That's why he had been rested before, was on home invasions,
38:23
why he got his DNA put in there. But yeah, so anyways,
38:29
do you have a y'all need Jesus for its nice? Of course I
38:31
got a y'all need to this. I always have a y'all need. Okay,
38:34
Well, come on, then let's go not um, this is going
38:37
to be difficult to Florida or not Florida. So headline here is why scantily
38:46
clad women brawled on a casino floor. Well, I'm gonna go with no
38:53
Florida because I don't think there's any is there casinos in Florida. There might
38:58
be, it's not known for though, so I'm going to say no,
39:01
think Florida can handle casinos. I'm sure they got a reservation somewhere with a
39:07
casino. I don't think they can handle casinos. The people of Florida they
39:10
cannot handle acause I'm sure they can, and I'm sure they have them Las
39:15
Vegas. We're going back to Las Vegas after old Dan I think got drugged
39:22
or roofied or whatever happened to him where he was gyrating the real life the
39:27
Hangover movie. Yes, well this happened about the same time, and I
39:34
was gonna do this one was the name Jesus. But then Dan came along
39:37
with his antics, which seemed more out of out of what do you want
39:43
to call it? He upped the game. Yeah, however, we've come
39:47
back and we got new information on this story. And this is an updated
39:52
July twenty one, twenty twenty three, and this is coming to us from
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casino dot org. If there is a casino dot org website that has the
40:02
news of the casinos. Okay, so it's not every day that videos go
40:07
viral featuring a woman being dragged off a motorized scooter and a luxury casino resort
40:14
as another woman yanks. Yes, there was a woman on a scooter and
40:17
a casino. I mean, this is like some Walmart chet going down on
40:21
a really posh casino in Vegas. This is stup. This is stuff you
40:27
would accept to happen at slots of fun or something like that down the road,
40:31
but not at the wind. So anyway, woman on a motorized scooter,
40:37
another woman yankner by the hair. So you find out why it occurred,
40:43
this becomes news. The melee, which also featured bass punching and shoe
40:50
throwing, occurred on July ninth that as after one of the combatants recognized a
40:55
woman walking through wind Las Vegas as the only fans model who was cheating with
41:02
her husband. So the so the wife was on the scooter, I think,
41:08
well, she's not walking, so yeah, and the only fans Well
41:13
we got I think that's a well, probably got the only we got the
41:15
only fans model, and she's got a friend, and we got the wife,
41:19
and the wife has a friend. Okay, but you're saying the wife
41:22
saul the only fans model, it's definitely the one that's walking, because that'd
41:30
be a very specific only fans fetish if she was not walking. You know,
41:35
you think you think there's a fetish for that, Oh for sure,
41:37
Like a girl on motorised scooter are doing sexy stuff. Yes, yes,
41:44
I think there is. There's one for everything. Now, for those of
41:47
you who may not have heard of Only Fans, Only Fans is a London
41:52
based subscription service primarily used by sex workers to produce porn and also hosts the
42:00
work of content creators such as physical fitness trainers and musicians that I did not
42:07
know. Well, I think, well, no, it is, but
42:09
I think that what happens is the people that have the stuff and then that's
42:14
where they go to like show like nude photos of themselves, even though they
42:17
might be musicians and I don't really things like that. Yeah, so you
42:22
could be like a concert pianist and then on the side you just lay across
42:28
your piano neked on. Only Fans make a bunch of money, Okay,
42:31
did not know now. Footage of the brawl landed on several Instagram and tektik
42:37
videos with more than five million views each, and they do have a compilation
42:44
of all the different angles, just like Only Fans. Okay, So if
42:51
you're watching the video as I'm telling you, there's a girl by the name
42:54
of Danielle per two Celio twenty four. Okay, she's from New York anyway,
43:05
Danielle twenty four was the only fan model in the cream colored miniskirt that
43:09
got hiked up around her waist as she penned a woman and cut off jeans
43:15
and a black and white halter top on the carpet. Due to redactions in
43:20
the police report, it's unclear whether the pen woman or the blonde woman in
43:25
white sweatpants who ran up and punched was the spermed wife. The blonde woman
43:32
was also the one who on the So you know, would be really helpful
43:38
with these if you would like summarize them like I do this in like an
43:42
entire case, it would be really helpful to everybody, everybody involved. Well,
43:47
I just find this story and I know, and then you just kind
43:51
of read through it nonchalantly on while we're recording, and here we are.
43:55
Well that's what I did when things not making sense. That's why you should
44:00
have cut out some of this. I probably should have cut it out,
44:02
all right, Well, can you continue on with your thoughts or whoever these
44:07
bitches are that got in an argument about some guy, some loser guy.
44:14
So basically, all as we know for sure is that the only fans model
44:19
is the one that got her stuff hiked up and she's running around her her
44:22
thong and then she's got a friend who's in the melee. There's a blind
44:28
lady on a scooter who's getting attacked. I'm guessing that's the wife, but
44:32
all the police reports are redacted, so we don't know who's who other than
44:37
the Danielle girl. So Danielle and her friend are fighting with these other two
44:43
women. I think you just did the stories. You could talk about a
44:45
bunch of women. Did they throw jello on them? Like? What did
44:47
they do? Now? They were just throwing down the middle casino floor and
44:51
it's just ridiculous. Oh and then the best part is, well we already
44:54
said the best part. They're fighting over a man who's not even asn't at
45:00
the brawl. It's just that the wife saw the one girl, so she's
45:06
like, Hey, we're gonna mess with this girl who's having sex with What
45:08
are the odds of them seeing You think the girl was there to meet up
45:12
with the husband. I don't, Well, there was a poker tournament going
45:15
on the wind, so I don't know if the husband was in the poker
45:16
tournament and he was playing poker, and these women are just brawling on the
45:21
floor because one saw the other one who cares like, it's not worth it,
45:24
ladies, just let him, let her have him, just leaving,
45:29
just go. It's really not worth it. It's not worth the effort,
45:32
especially if you're already on a scooter. It's just not well, we don't
45:36
know. If the wife is on the scooter, find that. I'll give
45:38
her the bit of the delts. She's not on the scooter, her friends
45:40
on the school. Whatever. The point is, if your husband's cheating on
45:45
you, then just letting go and move on with your life. You don't,
45:47
it's not worth it fighting in the middle of a and going viral.
45:52
Don't go viral, that's what they say on Modern Family. Don't go viral.
45:55
You don't want to go vi And especially for this, yes oral Dan
46:00
last week. Yeah, I'm gy rating on a on a poker table buck
46:02
naked. Ye. All right, well that was it for this week.
46:07
Thanks for that, y'all need Jesus do. I'm real thankful you, really
46:14
thankful for that. Can't get those minutes back in my life. But anyways,
46:19
all right, I can't get back. Yeah, anyway, so we
46:22
apologize for missing last week, Like I said, well, we'll have episodes
46:27
out. We'll make it up and we'll do two a week to No,
46:30
we won't. We are just during the summer. We we already talked about
46:34
there was probably gonna be some weeks we were gonna miss, you know,
46:37
just because things are crazy. Anyway, things come up. Yeah, we're
46:39
going on vacation at some point too, so they'll be at some point.
46:44
There'll be another sometime in September. You're not supposed to announce when you're going
46:50
on vacation, Steward. You don't want people to know on our house,
46:52
will bemta. Yes, we already went through this. Remember what the last
46:57
time we want to told everybody were and then we got no, we didn't.
47:02
We have large Doberman pinchers guarding the home at all times. Yes.
47:08
Anyways, Yeah, so we are going on vacation here in the next couple
47:10
of weeks, so we won't have an episode that week. But anyway,
47:15
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