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Ryan Keith (Part 2) | The Christian Reeve Podcast #177 · The Christian Reeve Podcast

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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Christian Reef
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podcast. Part two of my interview with
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Ryan Keith. Thank you.
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I hope you enjoy it to make you do my editing.
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We definitely definitely could not, but I'm the same as you
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like before the before the podcast, I did.
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I went to the gym and so basically it's just all water,
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you know. All right.
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Yeah, you do? Yeah.
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I'll tell you something. I've discovered recently about
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Jim and I don't know if this works for other people but like
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I've discovered if I eat like a lot the night before.
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Yeah. And then go the next day like
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earliest like 11 12, I suddenly have way more energy and
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strength and then I'm able to do loads of weights and stuff.
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So I'm in like my happy Zone. Whereas if I if I leave the Gap,
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long enough, I just have no strength.
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So I guess it makes sense. I don't know.
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Yeah, because that's where are your energy?
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All your calories are coming from, so your calories, or
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energy. Absolutely.
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But that's why a lot of people do like fasting, you know,
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before they go to the gym, if you're trying to lose weight
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because then, you know, you're just burning all your calories.
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So yeah, I get that. That makes, yeah, that makes a
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lot of sense, but no, but to your point of just staying
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humble, you know, like you said, I mean, you just ultimately have
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to Stay humble. So let me ask you also on
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Tick-Tock, which video did she see?
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I don't know, I have no idea. I didn't ask, I didn't want to
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know really. Ya know, cuz like you know it's
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just awkward. You know, do you?
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I mean I'm take that because I don't personally have ticker.
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I had it for a while but then I got off of it because I was just
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like this is just too much. You don't mean it just just too
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much stuff you know around here on take that to It talks while I
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was just like, okay I'm just going to get off of it but what
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do you usually post on your on your Tick Tock.
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So got three accounts I've got one for the podcast Clips one
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that's like my mess around used Tick-Tock quartz intended for
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and jump on the trends and Reach people.
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And then I got my main account which is more for like self
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tapes music songs, stuff like that.
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And that's how I was as I was split out, really, and it kind
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of works. It's cool.
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I mean, I purely use it to interact with people to spread
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awareness and to do. I have fun with it and stuff.
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But I look at it as an advertising tool like to promote
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myself to reach people to, you know, it's why I do everything
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that I do online. It's free media that you can use
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to promote yourself and Reach people.
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And you know who knows where that could lead, who knows, who
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you could end up working with them, It's highly unlikely that,
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you know, this stuff will ever lead to me getting any acting
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opportunities, but you don't know, you never know.
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Yeah, you just don't know. And to be fair, it's it seems
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that more and more people and institutions are taking note of
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platforms, such as Tick, Tock, and taking it more seriously and
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using it. So, I mean, maybe it's a matter
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of time before the acting industry starts taking it
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seriously, but I mean, but then again, I don't know.
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I've had a lot of rejections lately, which Maybe just
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happens. Nothing, I know, I know, but
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it's interesting react like projections.
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Like, it's not just like, oh sorry, we're not interested that
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I can deal with right? Yeah.
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But I'll give you a good example.
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Do you have a website called Spotlight in the US or not?
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We might, I just say I personally haven't heard of it,
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but we believe might. But go ahead.
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Let's see. There's one here in the UK
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called Spotlight and it costs a bunch of money to get on there.
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And also, there's like a whole process where they review all of
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your acting credits. It's and see if you are good
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enough to be on this site and everything, right?
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And the parrot parrot with his wife heard apparently in the
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industry. It's like that's what the least
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the UK directors. Look at and take seriously.
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So if you don't have a cast a spotlight profile then like, who
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cares, we don't care about you kind of attitude, not
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completely, but that's what the information I've been given.
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And I got an A I got an email back from someone and they were
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like oh do you have a spotlight profile?
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We can't find you and I said, oh no.
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No, sorry, I haven't got one yet, but I've got an IMDb with
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credits. I've got a backstage profile of
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got website. I've got loads of examples of,
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you know, I've got lots of examples of why you should
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employ me. They just bluntly just turned
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around and said, oh, we only work with Spotlight actors, and
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I just screenshot it. And I was like, cool, nice one.
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I'm gonna collect all of these one day and if I ever make it,
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I'll just make a collage of every single rejection I ever
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got. Like, look what everyone missed,
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look at everyone missed, but look where I'm at now.
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I mean it's, you know what? It comes down to.
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This like being rejected, that's fine, that's part of life,
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right? But how you deliver that
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message? That's totally up to you.
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That's. Yeah, you can be a jackass about
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it. You can be nasty about it or you
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can be really nice about it. I've had, you know, I've had
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many many really respectful rejection letters recently that
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have said, looks like any everything from like all.
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Hey, really, really sorry. Sorry, like we're quite full
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right now. We're not working with anyone
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else, but thank you. And I'm like, yeah, that's
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great. You know, they did someone took
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the time out of their day to tell me that to let me know and
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they were respectful about it. And I respond in due course, I'm
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like hey thank you so much for picking searing me and thank you
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for your time and wishing you all the best, you know, and
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that's cool. Yeah, no, that makes.
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I think that makes a huge difference.
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Sure. That they took that time as
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opposed to a versus just not saying anything back at all.
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Well, I mean, I understand that too like that, that Okay, if you
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don't have the time to respond, it's understandable.
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And then think about how many hundreds of thousands of people
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applying Janome like to get to even get a response is a big
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deal. That's the way I looked at it,
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but people that are rude or like, just crappy.
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I mean, it's I don't know, I don't think it's necessary.
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Like, for instance, I've got something recently with this
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company where they were like, oh yeah, we'd be happy to work with
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you, but are you just don't have the numbers screenshot?
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Thanks for that. Appreciate that.
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You mean like the numbers like online?
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Yeah, yeah. Like this is a company, that's
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the thing. 70 companies and institutions are quite that to
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like, oh, you don't have five, we don't have a hundred thousand
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so you're nothing. You're nothing, that's exactly
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exactly it. When you brought up Spotlight, I
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promise that was the. That was what I was going to
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bring up. Is that a lot of these
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companies? Now they are taking Tick, Tock
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and Instagram. All this stuff so serious
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because they feel that it's a marked its marketing, right?
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If you have 100,000 people following you, you know.
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They're mentally, they're thinking, okay, well, if we put
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this person in a movie x amount of, you know, and they have
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their percentages and they, you know, they have their Market
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people that do this for a living.
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So, you know, this kind of stuff.
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They're like, x amount of people are going to probably watch this
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movie or watch this commercial or, you know, by this brand.
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And so, you know, that's what you see at the bottom of these.
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If you have Followers, you know, apply if you don't don't apply.
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You know those were the industry is going to have you seen that?
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That because I've not seen that specifically, but I haven't seen
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things looking for X amount of thousands, of followers looking.
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So yeah, it's like, yes, like, oh you don't apply.
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If you don't have 5,000 followers or something exactly
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and they won't say don't apply. But they'll say looking for X
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amount of thousands of followers, do you have - yeah
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following a huge Instagram following, send us your social
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media. Yeah.
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And you know but yeah. Oh yeah.
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That's where these companies are going because it's it's free
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marketing for the company and I mean not free, you know, you
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pay, you pay like a little Tick, Tock or Instagram, or whatever
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you pay them some money. But the money that they're
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expecting to get back off of that investment, you know, for x
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amount of followers that people have.
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Yeah. It's I mean it's easy and then
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from Tick-Tock or an instagramer, you know, if you
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have X amount of fog, where's now you can go promote yourself
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anywhere and companies will believe that you are your gold.
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Mine, it's completely changed. The world is completely changed
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now. Now everything is social media
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and exposure experienced. How many people know you So you
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know, I I know I get it. I completely get it.
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Now I haven't heard of the spotlight thing.
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How much does it cost? How much is Spotlight?
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Usually, I think it's like 300 pounds a year or something.
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I don't know. Something.
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I mean, look, it might not sound like a lot.
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I think there might even be a monthly thing but I don't like
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it. Also kind of made me think like
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well what credits means something as well, because they
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rejected me because I didn't have Have enough.
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My credits won't reputable or something.
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But what I've got on IMDb is I've been featured on a few
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podcasts. I've been featured in audio
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dramas, the lead in a short film, that had a fairly sizable
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production and I'm a supporting artists in another production
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that had a big production as well budget as well.
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So it's not the biggest thing ever but it's something you
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know, I would have thought that meant something.
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I mean I've got other credits which are uncredited which Would
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help but they won't ever get recognized.
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Like for instance I walked I was in ten it but it won't ever get
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given as a credit because I'm not in it and have any speaking
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and that's the thing I have found as well unless you have a
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speaking line apparently you don't get credits.
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Yeah. Yeah that's it.
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Yeah exactly. Unless you add something to it
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verbally. Yeah.
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No one cares. That's not true.
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Yeah, if you're in a movie try to even just to get one line in
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just like no because then you might get a comeback.
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Something. And then you know and then you
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put that on your real and your whole you know whether your
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editing software your real just basically looks like this
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because you have as know he's me Mission Impossible.
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No brilliant. Bigger, the second brilliant.
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Now your it was a now, your union.
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Now, you can get on Spotlight and now your whole career just
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launched from that whole know. You never know, man.
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You never said. Less right careers have launched
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for a lot less. And, and speaking of like
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everything that you see now, I mean it's I think that's why
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because you brought it up about how you know, being famous was
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easy because there's so it because it's so.
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So there's so much saturation now.
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I think there's so much saturation with social media
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because of how you can go on social media.
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You can do something go viral and now you're famous and it can
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be something stupid. You go viral.
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Now you're you know, all it takes is that one video or all
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it takes. Is that one encounter with
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somebody that you just posted online.
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You know, everything is online and it'll make you go famous and
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so, oh, so let me ask you. Do you think that now because it
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is so easy to be recognized, you know, from a viral standpoint
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and just in general, do you think that that has affected the
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way Talent is coming up in the world?
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Do you think that more people are saying?
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Okay, well I don't really necessarily need to be talented,
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I don't need to be a great actor.
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I'm going to be a great singer, right, or whatever.
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But do you think that now people are taking the easy way out and
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they're just like, oh, I'll just Do something stupid on Instagram
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or Tick, Tock, and become famous.
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Or do you think that Talent will always be important in the
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entertainment industry or becoming famous?
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It will say entertainment industry to the matter is we
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take acting as an example like okay, yeah, maybe might have a
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big following, but if you've never acted, if you don't have a
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talent for acting then you're going to be a trash actor,
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aren't you, you know, right. And at the end of the day, Fuel,
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making a production a movie. Depends what it is.
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If we just like, oh, okay. I had a cameo in an Adam Sandler
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movie then. Yeah, who gives a fuck, right.
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Let's just for fun, but if like, okay, you've just been cast as
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okay. Like here's a, really good
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example, right? Okay, Harry Styles has been sort
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of going into acting more recently, you know, he's a big
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musician. Now, he's sort of transitioning
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into into acting. And you know what, from what
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I've seen is a good little actor, you know, he's clearly
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trained for it. He's clearly got some Something
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he's been giving lead roles and he deserves it.
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You know, different industry. Logan Paul is became big on
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YouTube, has a background in amateur wrestling signed a
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contract with WWE and started wrestling for them and you know
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what has actually done a fantastic job?
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Because he's put the he's better than some of the people on the
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roster been there? Yes.
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And it's comes down to work ethic and putting and taking it
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seriously and that that like, work hard work and what you put
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into it will always be more important than, you know, you're
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following or whatever because don't forget like you're
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following, can can wean it can disappear and you know like
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again there's a difference between being the flavor of the
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month versus being respected for what you do, you know, I mean
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like that kind of People respecting you for your craft
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and what you do means that they might be lifelong fans of your
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work. Whereas if you just get a viral
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video or viral videos, that doesn't necessarily mean that
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people are fans who you are. They might be, there could be
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wrong. Like people could be fans of
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your comedic style or whatever. But, you know, when you see
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people, especially people that like, they get like one viral
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video and then they sort of build a lot of mini career off
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that. And I'm not taking anything from
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that, by the way. I'm not saying that's a bad
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thing. I'm just saying that like, I
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really do feel like there's a big distinction between being a
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celebrity online versus the acting industry and stuff like
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that. What I'm quickly learning is
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that, yes, you might be able to build a presence online and, you
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know, be seen by more people and potentially even casting agents
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and stuff who might be looking at these websites, but the fact
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of the matter remains that the entertainment industry is still
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a separate entity that you have to prove yourself in and you
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have to, and this is again, why it makes sense to be humble and
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be easy to work with, on sets and stuff.
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Because, you know, you're going to get more rows.
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You're going to be able to To be by more people, you know?
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Whereas if it's all like, oh, I got this about following, you
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know, I've got this, many people follow me.
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So, this is why you should give me a part in the movie that
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might, that might work for a few people.
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But I think a lot of actors, sorry, a lot of directors and
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such and probably not going to want to work with you, right?
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Basically, you go because you have an ego automatically in
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their mind. You automatic and let's be
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realistic. But but like well what does it
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mean? Let's say you've got 5 million
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followers, right? And And a director is thinking
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about whether or not to cast you in the movie like okay.
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Yeah. Maybe that might be worth
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tapping into from a marketing standpoint that might be worth
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tapping into. But at the end of the day, a
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movie has a budget, right? And then it's projected sales.
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And if you're acting is trash and it brings the movie down and
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then that movie flops, Who they gonna look at going to look at
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you and be like, you're the reason that this fault right?
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You know, I mean, we saw it with kind of with those that movie,
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It's morphin time. Morpheus, is it?
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No not Morpheus. Mobius.
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Sorry morbius Mobius. Yes, that's interesting because
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okay you had this huge actor Jared Leto and from what I
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understand, they're not particularly great story, it was
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a big just power, no Big Marketing Ploy the pump loads of
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money into it, but apparently just wasn't good and the
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internet dunks on it and made memes about it and people looked
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people in the industry. Looked at that, like, oh that I
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think the production Company looked at it like, oh, this is
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an opportunity. So when the movie originally
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flops, they took it out of the cinema.
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Which I didn't even know that companies did this.
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But yeah, they took it out the cinema and then they re-released
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it thinking that all its got online Buzz, the wrong reasons.
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But it's got online bars and then it again and then they just
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took it away again. And it's like the internet world
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is different from the entertainment industry.
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It's a different world and but that's not to say that people
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can't get up. It's because we have seen people
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get those opportunities, but they still have to work just as
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hard. I mean, you look at someone like
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KSI, the rapper in the UK, you know, he's done things like
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YouTube boxing and branched out, and he's becoming a bigger
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celebrity more and more over time.
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But he still has to work just as hard.
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Yes, the work. Yeah, he gets opportunities to
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work with people in the industry stuff, but yes, to just bust his
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ass working. Really hard to get those
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opportunities still and continue to get those opportunities.
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So make no mistake like it might make it a bit easier.
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Easier if, you know you know it's the way I look at it is
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online status and followings. Probably get you an interview
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and that's it. You still got pretty okay.
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Yeah. Okay.
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I think that I can see that and I guess I guess my and you
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actually answered it you know, pretty dead-on I guess my thing
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was like an example of KSI. I mean he has talent, you know,
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today he actually has talent so I would be I would be more.
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So speaking of and you answered this actually of like the person
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that does the viral videos, like you said right?
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Like the viral videos that is not talented to just So that way
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they can get out there and become famous, you know, don't
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care about acting anything like that, just to kind of be famous,
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but that doesn't hold, audience's attention in the real
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world, in the, you know, in the entertainment world, you know,
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in a movie, in a movie that doesn't hold audience's
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attention, because you can do something stupid and videotape.
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It doesn't equate to 0. He's going to be an amazing
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actor. What I mean, if we go back to
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the local pool example, I think It's a really good illustration
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of that or a demonstration that because it's like and me as a
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rest up in a lifelong residents and I kind of knew that he was
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going to be good but only because he'd had that amateur
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wrestling background. If it, if he had never stepped
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foot in a wrestling ring ever in his entire life, he never had
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any training. I would have been a bit more
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like mmm. How's this going to go?
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But maybe bad body is an exact more of an example.
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The rapper. He also wrestled for WWE and did
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extensive training for and was also really, really good.
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Um he comes from, you know, music industry.
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Logan Paul comes from online celebrity stars but they both
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people looked at them. Wrestling fans looked at them,
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like, mmmm is this really gonna is this going to, what?
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I don't know. I don't think this is going to
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go down very well and then it worked out boom but because a
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hot but they started to prove themselves right to those
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audiences, right? So yeah, they are.
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I agree with you. They are different Industries
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and you have to prove yourself and that's it.
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Simple as that they are. They are completely different
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Industries and that's another thing I'm learning because like
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you said, online status doesn't translate to real world status.
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So you think that there will always be that world for actors
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actresses you know singers just Talent.
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I'm just gonna say Talent well again skill.
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Yeah. And also I think it comes back
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to our conversation before about the difference.
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In mediums difference in content like movies and TV shows are
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longer forms of And they, you know, they require years and
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years of training and dedication, and passion and, you
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know, and drive and you know, some of those people that are
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getting those brakes have been working very, very many years
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before they get them. Like I think the guy who got
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cast as Hopper and stranger things the cop, he he only
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entered acting later in his life but he'd been pushing for a
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while before he got that, right? And I think He was not even do
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to get that raw. It just kind of came eventually
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and then he got it and then it changed his life.
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But he was still working. Very, very hard for a number of
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years before he got there. And there's many instances of
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that where people have worked hard.
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I mean and faced a lot of adversity and eventually they
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get they get their break which gives me hope by the way, I am
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looking at that. Yeah.
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Yeah. Well you always hear about that
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story, right? Always here by the oh yeah.
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That person. They were living in their van
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for you. 16 and a half years or since they were born and then,
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you know, just one day they stumbled upon somebody that gave
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them a chance and next thing, you know, you're a rich.
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So you always right here those, it's true.
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My my go-to toys. What's his name?
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Hey Bart. Hey Bubba, Al Pacino.
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Yeah, in The Godfather, he was broke around that time and I
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think it was the director. Francis Ford Coppola didn't even
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want him as the leader, who'd like It was like against it and
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I get the rest of the people on set.
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Had to like push for him to be to be included.
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Yeah, well I think maybe the maybe it was the production
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company or someone else pushed for him but the director didn't
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one else something like that and you know and he was an impasse
21:32
in his career and he got that role and then it look at the
21:35
couches whole life but real and it was made for him that role
21:39
couldn't imagine anyone else in that role.
21:42
Right? And you know it just depends on
21:44
the vision but I I said, so that's another thing that keeps
21:48
you going because you're like, at any point in time anything
21:51
can change right? At any point in time, anything?
21:55
All it takes, is that one eye that one, right person, that one
21:58
opportunity that warrant one door, open for somebody to
22:02
contact you and be like, hey, I saw your podcast and you know
22:05
what? I like your setup.
22:07
I like your questions. I like your, you know, right.
22:09
All it takes, is that one thing and that's why we keep doing it.
22:12
That's why we keep putting it out there.
22:13
Putting it out there. Putting out there, right?
22:16
Because this is our this is our truth, but at the same time like
22:20
anything can happen. And you know what they say,
22:23
right before you get to the gold?
22:25
That's when you people usually stop, you know, that's when they
22:28
stop digging right before they get to the gold.
22:31
And so, imagine you go your life and you stop your podcast stops.
22:35
You're like, I'm over it. I'm going to go get a job and
22:37
just gonna be away. Gee, you know it.
22:39
Go get a job, right? And maybe one more podcast,
22:43
somebody would have saw that podcast and they're like, oh, I
22:47
like him as an online host, for such-and-such whatever, you
22:51
know? Damn you're inspiring me here
22:54
with this is it's all right. Yeah that's part of the yeah
23:04
that's part of the things that is so I think intriguing about
23:08
this business is that literally you never know what's going to
23:11
happen. You never know and you can
23:12
almost create your own future you know because that's what it
23:16
is. You're creating something out of
23:18
nothing. You're going to your podcast you
23:21
know you Bad idea and now look at it so it's creating something
23:26
out of nothing. Like I have this idea.
23:28
Okay, it's going to suck at first but I'm going to figure it
23:32
out, I'll get them, I'm gonna make it work, I've got to make
23:34
it work, did it suck you. Look back at that you're just
23:40
like there's someone there's someone right now.
23:45
Shout when she pops and her friend who check him out my
23:49
older episodes and They were all you're going to instead of
23:55
looking at the working our way backwards.
23:57
We're going to start from the beginning onwards and I'm like,
23:59
oh my God, but I feel like some of the early ones that I won't
24:03
say trash. I'm still proud of them but like
24:05
who I did not find my footing for a while.
24:09
It took me a while I was just shy, I was nervous.
24:14
That's what happened, but that's what happens.
24:16
And that's the whole Simpson. Stay like I was telling you
24:18
right? You just put it out there, it
24:20
sucks. But after you watch it, It.
24:22
You can see what you can tweet, what you need to tweak because
24:25
it's right there in front of you because when you're in your own
24:27
mind or even on paper, it's like whatever this sounds great.
24:31
But when you put it out there you know, to visualize it and
24:34
you're like oh man yeah this is horrible.
24:37
Okay. I know what I need to change.
24:38
It's easy. Exactly.
24:44
And that's similar for my first few seasons, whatever.
24:48
I was like man. This kind of sucks like I'm, you
24:51
know I'm glad that you know too. Two people that are watching it
24:53
like it, but this sucks and then you start getting ideas and you
25:00
start being like, I can tweak this, I tweak that and the next
25:02
thing, you know, you have a Simpsons been on for, you know,
25:05
40 seasons. Never know man, you never know a
25:11
couple of final questions for you.
25:12
Sir Jitter what is happiness to you?
25:21
Oof happiness to me. you know what happiness to me, I think is
25:30
doing what I enjoy doing, which is this writing thing and acting
25:35
like I said, you know, occasionally but I think just
25:40
being able to do that, not having a schedule being able to
25:43
do And create what I want to create.
25:48
I think that would be. I think that's happiness to me
25:52
guy when I'm in front of the computer and I'm editing a video
25:55
or I'm writing, you know, trying to come up with new ideas to
25:59
write things that's happiness, you know, and and it's so crazy
26:05
because I know it's so simple. You know, I when I try to
26:08
explain somebody, I'll go, why don't you go traveling and why
26:10
don't you do this and why don't you do?
26:13
I don't mind because it's cool but that's not my idea of
26:16
happiness. You know, my idea of happiness
26:19
is sitting down in front of my computer, you know, with no
26:23
cares in the world, right? No cares in the world.
26:26
Like I'm just going to sit here. I have X amount of hours to
26:28
create something or to edit something or to whatever, maybe
26:32
get a pizza, you know, and just be there, maybe have some music
26:35
or something. You know, showing the side just
26:38
being there. That is my happiness.
26:41
And then of course, then the gym Because yeah, I think I kind of
26:46
really saw that but now overall, I think, yeah, I think that's
26:51
great. And then talking to people, you
26:53
know, meeting people that are on the same wavelength, because
26:58
I've I've seen a huge difference.
27:02
In from California to Illinois. Because, well, currently right
27:06
now, I'm Illinois just for, you know, a few weeks or whatever,
27:08
but The California mindset and being around different creative
27:13
people, you know, that's a lot different than being around
27:16
people that might not necessarily understand the
27:20
industry. Hmm, you know, because I always
27:24
feel like I have to tone it down a little bit, like the creative
27:28
side because people that don't understand will say, oh, you
27:31
might be weird. Right?
27:32
But people that have a creative nature are going to be like,
27:35
okay, I can kind of, you know, to me, I can kind of see where
27:38
you're going with that and I think I think being around
27:41
like-minded people is why I feel the happiest also where I can
27:45
like, you know, say my ideas out loud.
27:47
Not worried about being judged and being like, okay, this is,
27:50
this is what I think that's yeah, I think that's it.
27:54
I think that's happiness, you know, that's my form of of
27:59
happiness. Britt in, love it.
28:04
What's the best advice you've ever received?
28:08
Keep going. It just, just get, just
28:11
literally just keep going, you know, I think that's that's it.
28:16
It just if you have an idea, do it, right?
28:22
Because the people that are going to fault you, for living
28:25
out, your idea are the ones that have ideas, and they never
28:29
attempted to live them out, right?
28:31
But the people that have ideas and that are living them out,
28:34
they understand your struggle, right?
28:35
They understand how hard it is, to formulate this idea into
28:39
something. Being worthwhile and so they
28:42
understand it, you know? And so I think the best advice I
28:46
ever got was just, just keep going.
28:49
If it sucks. It sucks.
28:50
But you know what? You, you, you didn't fail
28:55
because you tried, you know, you would have failed if you were 70
29:00
years old and you were like, I wish I would have done this
29:03
podcast. I wish I would have done, you
29:06
know, this YouTube show, that's when you fail, right?
29:09
But when you just keep going, okay?
29:12
So it doesn't become successful you know, in other people's
29:15
world of successful, but you did it.
29:17
And now you know. So I just keep going probably
29:21
the best advice just Who cares? You know, just keep going, don't
29:24
do it for the fame. Don't do it for that.
29:26
Do it for you. Keep going.
29:28
You guys, you have a few people watching or listening.
29:32
I doing it for the right reasons, you know.
29:36
What's the biggest life lesson you've learned so far?
29:42
Plans change. Don't have a job, you know, I'm
29:53
sure covid hit with everybody and this is where this is
29:57
probably the biggest life lesson is that well actually a couple
30:00
of times because initially, you know, I came to California to do
30:05
Finance like that's where I was transferred from, you know,
30:08
Illinois to do finance and then that dealership shut down it's
30:11
always like okay, what do I You now and then, that's when the
30:14
whole acting thing started. And, you know, my whole life
30:17
growing up, I would have never expected to be on TV to be an
30:20
actor, you know, to do any of this stuff.
30:22
But then that changed right when I, you know, found out I was
30:25
like, oh, this is kind of cool and then coronavirus hit and it
30:29
was like, alright, another another fork in the road.
30:32
Like, you know, like change where you got to figure out.
30:35
Okay. This is going to change my life.
30:36
One way this is going to completely change my life one
30:39
way. Which way do you go?
30:40
So yeah, it's just Expect but you know, kind of held your
30:45
expectations down low, you know, work hard and do all your things
30:48
but don't get so caught up in. It has to be like this, don't be
30:53
a perfectionist, it doesn't have to be like this, you know, you
30:59
can still get to the end goal by going like around, you know what
31:03
I mean, it doesn't have to be tunnel vision like other things
31:05
that are kind of calm obstacles. You can still get there.
31:08
It just might not be exactly how you use it, how you thought it
31:11
was going to be. This is that kind of makes.
31:15
Yeah, I know everybody got hit with covid.
31:19
Like, how did that affect you did covid affect you at all?
31:21
Hmm. Yes or no.
31:28
Yeah. So what is your know?
31:30
What is your? No, because I can imagine that.
31:32
Yes. What was your know, the kind of
31:34
realized that my life was quite boring.
31:38
I realized, I need to go out more and do things more.
31:42
I'd kind of written. Like, okay, I'll give you some
31:45
background. So, like I came back to England,
31:50
just before covid here and then I moved up to where I live now,
31:54
which is Manchester in the middle of England.
31:57
Yeah, and there was a new thing for me.
31:58
I've never lived here before. I'm from down, south in London's
32:01
is all new for me. And I, You know it's time
32:09
stopped working out. I let myself go.
32:12
I naively thought that I would easily find work as soon as I
32:17
came back and then I would I ended up being unemployed for
32:20
about a year and a half after that.
32:22
So as I was there there was a lot of suckage on that front and
32:27
I kind of had a lot of time to think to be honest and I
32:31
realized a lot about myself. I started reflecting on The last
32:37
five to seven years of my life and what I learned most of my
32:41
20s basically. Okay.
32:43
And Yeah, I guess I kind of realized in that time that I
32:48
wanted to pursue acting. I wanted to do things all things
32:51
creative. I wanted to you know, start
32:54
taking care of myself again and and I wanted to pursue my
32:59
dreams, I didn't want to just do a nine-to-five anymore and I
33:03
realized I had to take the leap and do freelance work and stop
33:06
being scared, basically, and it is been a process and there's
33:13
been a lot of steps to end it's still going.
33:15
But that that was those were the probably the biggest things that
33:20
I learn. You know, about myself and what
33:24
I needed to do and everything. And and also just just not
33:28
writing myself off, as well. I kind of wrote myself off as
33:31
being like too old to go out part.
33:33
You're never too old to party. Just put that down now and
33:36
secondly, yeah, just just. Yeah.
33:39
And also just, you know, you got to go out there and try
33:41
different things like. Yeah, you're getting older and
33:43
yeah, there are things that, you know, maybe you can't do anymore
33:46
because you're a bit older. But there are other things you
33:47
can do now that you're older. It's like, girl, they step
33:50
entering different phases of your life, you know.
33:52
That's You got to look at it new chapters in a book and it's
33:55
like, what am I going to fill the pages with?
33:58
You know, what am I going to do? What's going to be the next
34:01
adventure? That's how I look at life now
34:04
and it's exciting. You know, I'll be honest, like
34:06
my life right now. It's interesting.
34:09
Yeah, and I've not felt as well. Well, acting is bringing a lot
34:18
of different opportunities. I'm learning a lot.
34:22
The podcast means, I get to meet a lot of different people and
34:25
interview. Amazing people from around the
34:27
world, such as yourself. Thank you for being for being on
34:32
the show, man. When it comes to things like
34:34
Tick-Tock and doing the stuff online, I'm discovering that
34:37
there are people that are fans of me, which is a getting used
34:42
to that idea of having fans that doesn't right.
34:45
I don't feel like I'm I'm what fans but no, I did.
34:53
There's a lovely little Community or go online.
34:55
The wonderful wonderful people really supportive and just nice
34:58
and a real joy to learn from and, and entertain try to
35:05
entertain, you know, right. And then, you know, even just
35:09
different things, like trying different things out, like
35:12
returning to Bar work after like five years of not working in
35:15
customer services, like I was nervous about that.
35:18
And, you know, I just do it to pay bills, you know, that's it.
35:22
All right. In addition to other freelance
35:25
things that I do, but it's like, I actually enjoy it.
35:29
And, you know, it gets me out in the town center and doing things
35:34
meeting people having drinks afterwards and stuff and who
35:37
knows who you can meet doing that.
35:39
You know, it's like I think There's a lot of variety in my
35:43
life where there before they used to be a little boring
35:46
routine and a kind of written myself off now.
35:49
Life is exciting and every day is different and I don't know
35:51
what to expect and some days are good.
35:53
Some days are terrible, some days are amazing, like every day
35:56
is different and that's an exciting place to be.
36:00
It is. How about you can see that I can
36:02
definitely? Wow.
36:03
I mean I can definitely definitely see that.
36:06
I mean so covid for you, it was a quote unquote.
36:10
An enlightening experience. Yes.
36:12
Because you got a chance to sit down and think about how you
36:17
want it when this all, you know, kind of blew over.
36:20
I mean I don't know if it has enough but you know what I mean?
36:22
I went things open back up. Whatever you're like okay now I
36:24
know this is what I need my life.
36:26
To be like you did some self examining and I said, this is
36:30
what I need my life to be like, well, it's just, I Look to what
36:34
I'd been through over the last five to seven years because I
36:37
went through a lot of tough times difficult times.
36:44
Experiences that weren't good or Pleasant, you know, that it was,
36:48
it was, it was rough, it's hard. Most of my twenties has been
36:51
quite difficult, to be honest and some of the hardest times in
36:54
my life and when I came back here because initially, it was
37:00
kind of like, Is that is almost like deflating a balloon and
37:06
then now you're pumping the air back in.
37:10
You know? Oh, oh, is it because?
37:13
Well, let me ask you, then that we are why?
37:15
So, why do you think so? Because I think I have an idea
37:18
but I want to, I want to make sure.
37:19
What do you think? What would you mean exactly?
37:21
Like you said, deflating the balloon is it?
37:23
Because, like, when you were there in London, you were doing
37:26
more stuff for you like, you are there like you were doing it and
37:29
then you came back here and your you came back to Manchester
37:32
York. Like I got to start all over
37:35
again. Is that kind of was?
37:37
Okay, I'll give you some background so in 2014, I left
37:41
home, I was 21 and I went to University.
37:46
And so I grew up in London, basically.
37:49
And I went to a place, I don't know, International viewers,
37:54
everyone in the UK will know what I mean.
37:55
I lived in a place called sorry, which is about.
37:59
It's about 40 minutes away from London by train, but It's not in
38:03
London. It's like a different slide,
38:05
south south of England. And, you know, I was at Uni for
38:08
three years and first year was great.
38:13
And then after that, tough times, I won't go to Every all
38:19
the reasons why, but, yeah, that would be tough times.
38:22
And then, and then I went abroad for three years, I lived abroad
38:26
in Europe. And again, more tough times, not
38:31
all bad, by the way. But just, Yeah, difficult things
38:35
like that especially when I look back because at the time I just
38:38
dealt with it as best as I could and you know Savor the good
38:41
things tried to just get through the bad things, you know, what
38:43
you do in life, right? And then when I got back to
38:47
England, then after all of that and I sort of sat down to
38:50
compress the last seven years of my life.
38:52
I was like oh wow. Okay you know because because
38:56
then you start reflecting on things a lot, the more time you
38:59
have to reflect on things and examine things, the more you
39:02
realize the about Yourself about life about everything, you know,
39:05
and you look at things differently, what you when
39:08
you're looking back, you always look at things differently to
39:11
how you did when you, when you lift them obviously because
39:14
you're a different person. But it's like a retrospective
39:21
kind of experience where you're learning about yourself and kind
39:26
of deciding what to do next, but also kind of forgiving yourself,
39:30
giving yourself some leeway being like, hey, you know what?
39:32
Like, we got through that. You don't have to punish
39:34
yourself about it, you can take what you need to learn from it.
39:38
Move on you, because life is going to move forward with or
39:42
without you like and one thing I've learned is to stop
39:46
resisting life and change and to this embrace it like It's my
39:51
decision to go freelance was not a light one, I was terrified
39:56
about the idea of, you know, not having a contract, not having a
40:01
fixed weight, that paycheck stuff like that.
40:05
And then I realized like actually went once I started
40:08
doing it once, life kind of pushed me down that direction
40:11
and it was my decision to. I took the plunge mostly for
40:14
acting reasons as why did it. Because for those who don't
40:18
know, acting is freelancer That's the way it works.
40:21
It's project-by-project basis, I realized that, like, okay, this
40:27
is what I want to do in my life and it was ironic because even
40:30
10 15 years before that, I used to think about Freelancers like
40:33
this who spooky era like oh this mysterious thing like this,
40:38
that's really scary, right? And and then here I am years
40:41
later, doing it. And my, it's not so bad, it's
40:43
not easy, don't get me wrong, it's a lot of hard work and
40:45
you're always seeking length, but there's a lot of positives
40:49
about it. And I mean, for example, Freedom
40:53
being able to choose when and when I work I have to work like
40:56
crazy but at least I'm getting to pursue the things that I love
40:59
more than I am spending doing stuff.
41:02
I don't like you know and just little things like that little
41:06
realizations like that have just blown my mind and made me more
41:09
grateful like a much more grateful as a human being.
41:13
Now I find myself thanking God Universe, whatever.
41:20
For everything that I have. And I think back to like where I
41:23
was so five years ago versus now.
41:26
And yeah, very thankful man. Yeah, it I think if you have the
41:32
right attitude, You know, things will happen, and things can
41:36
change. And then you can kind of see it
41:38
as a, where was I to, you know, where am I now?
41:43
But you have to have the right attitude and the fact that you
41:45
are able to snap yourself out of it, you know, out of that mode.
41:49
That you know that definitely helps a lot because you have the
41:53
right attitude because you could have easily just gone the other
41:56
way of. All right, well, I'm not going
41:58
to act, I'm not going to do anything.
41:59
I'm just going to let this drag me down for the rest of my life,
42:02
right? So I think having the right, Add
42:04
it to it, and knowing which way to go is.
42:06
Yeah, and you did the right thing, but the self-reflection,
42:10
I don't know that I've ever said this.
42:13
What I'm about to say on the podcast before.
42:14
I've definitely said it in live streams, but the main reason why
42:19
I'm pursuing acting and creative Endeavors and not doing the 925,
42:25
is that like I did that and it made me miserable.
42:29
And I realized that like, I can't force myself to do that.
42:36
Like I know there's tons of people around the world that do
42:38
it day in day out and people people for different, everybody
42:41
is different. That's the thing like some
42:43
people are super content with 925 shift, work whatever.
42:47
And if you're happy if it makes, if it works for your life and
42:51
what you're into and whatever your the makeup of what your
42:54
life is, if you are, happy roll with it, it doesn't matter what
42:58
the fuck anyone else is saying that's their life.
43:01
Focus on you if you're happy, that's all that matters.
43:05
But I realized for me specifically, I can't be happy
43:09
working in a nine-to-five working for someone else.
43:12
I just can't and I felt bad about it.
43:15
I felt bad at the, oh, I'm being paid a decent check.
43:18
And, you know, my work is pissy easy, and it's not that
43:21
difficult, right? But I felt like an asshole for
43:24
feel for what, like, for not feeling like it was enough like,
43:27
I mean, I remember very clearly years ago, sitting in this
43:30
office And I've been working in the job for about six, or seven
43:33
months, and I was just doing that Basic Marketing work.
43:36
That's my background marketing and I was just, I was sick of
43:41
it. I was bored.
43:41
I was, I was depressed. I wasn't I wasn't doing anything
43:44
creative in my life and I didn't know at the time, that, that was
43:48
the problem. But I was just miserable and I
43:51
felt so bad about it. I was like, what's wrong with
43:54
me? Like I, you never happier, you
43:56
never content, but that right there is integral in the whole
44:00
point. I can't sit and be content.
44:03
I can't sit and be like, oh, this is fine.
44:05
I've got a kind of just throw all of my shit against the wall
44:09
and hope it will stick and something to work out because at
44:12
least I tried, like, if it's like what you said earlier,
44:15
like, if everything I do is a failure, well, at least I put my
44:18
heart and my soul into it and I can just be like, you know what,
44:21
I least, I gave my everything and I died as a failure that
44:27
tried. But if I have if I'd have stuck
44:32
in those jobs that I hated and never tried and had that, what
44:35
if that shit would drive me? Crazy.
44:38
The, what if, what if I have done this?
44:41
What if I'd done that, I can't live my life with what if it has
44:43
to be a? Give it my all or I just don't
44:47
fucking bother and that's it. I hate to say it but you're
44:51
right and you know, I don't know if it was similar for you that
44:54
it was for me like my My whole not wanting to work for
45:00
everybody or for somebody else moment, I think came when I
45:04
literally dedicated my whole life to, you know, the
45:08
dealership that sent need to California, you know, I dead.
45:11
I mean, literally from when I was 22 all the way till I was 30
45:14
29, you know, I dedicated my doing your face death.
45:19
This guy lookin good. Thank you, appreciate it.
45:24
But yeah, I dedicated my whole life.
45:26
You know, brought me California and then the dealership just
45:29
shut down and you know, my life plan was be in the dealership
45:35
world for those for my whole life, right?
45:37
Go finance and general manager. Maybe own a dealership later on
45:40
it. You know, I started early.
45:41
So I was like okay you know, and then they completely shut down
45:44
and that's when I realized I was like, okay I can't have a boss,
45:49
you know what I mean? Like, I don't want to have
45:51
somebody that has complete control over everything, you
45:56
know that I Hi that I'm doing because somewhere to you like it
46:00
was great but I felt like I was missing something you know, and
46:03
then when I got into the creative world I was like okay
46:06
this is what I was missing like this is it, you know, if I'm
46:11
going to have a job, it needs to be very, very flexible when it
46:17
comes to hours, like told me for that like that like that process
46:22
like, okay, see you find out this place closes.
46:26
But what's going through your head like how do you process
46:29
that? Like what your immediate steps?
46:32
You know, I honestly think that that sent me into a depression.
46:36
Okay? Because you know, like I said, I
46:39
gave my whole life to this place.
46:40
I'm in California, so I'm two thousand miles away from home.
46:44
Because, you know, and of course, you know, I'm with, you
46:47
know, a couple people that came with me that are basically at my
46:50
family but I'm still 2,000 miles away from home, and What my
46:55
whole life's plan. What I had, you know, planned
46:58
out for my life, has completely evaporated because of one
47:01
person, you know? Because so in my mind, I don't
47:06
know what to do. You know, my whole life had been
47:09
kind of very traditional in a way where, you know, 9 to 5 job,
47:14
even Comfort nine-to-five job or 99 would ever make money, you
47:19
know, eventually I figured, I would get married, you know,
47:21
just very traditional and always tried to do things how they say.
47:25
You're supposed to do it, right? Exactly.
47:30
But then when that changed that completely I think changed my
47:34
mindset you know and we all have those things that change our
47:36
mindsets, right? That that you can kind of go
47:39
back and be. Like I remember exactly the day
47:42
that my whole reality change and that my whole view on life, just
47:47
completely changed and that was that was the day.
47:51
And then you know, just fortunate enough to where I was
47:54
in California. And that's when I got, I think I
47:58
my first little extra gig background gig, you know, just
48:01
randomly. I don't even know.
48:02
I don't even remember honestly how it happened, but it was for
48:05
like, right? You know, you don't remember how
48:07
it happens, but like when you're okay, see you finished working
48:11
with this car dealership. You're going through this tough
48:13
time mentally and you're like, okay, but you got pay the bills,
48:17
right? So like, did you just kind of
48:20
look at acting as like? Oh, I like okay, talk to me
48:24
about like, how it was. Introduce to you by did someone
48:26
said oh you can make some money doing this.
48:28
Like this is easy and you are give that a try or was it like
48:31
you'd always been interested in acting and you just cut it off
48:34
or I'll give this a go my money. So when I knew the dealership
48:39
was closing, I started learning how to trade stocks, okay?
48:42
And so I became a day trader so that way I could, you know, make
48:46
my own money and I would have flexibility, you know, if I had
48:50
to find another job to find another job.
48:53
And so I just kind of continued day trading and trading stocks
48:58
and then one day I forgot I was at a gym in West Hollywood.
49:04
And and some random guy came up to me.
49:08
And he asked me if I did acting or something like that.
49:11
And now, you know, I was like, no because I hadn't thought
49:13
about it. You know, at that point I hadn't
49:15
thought about it and he said well you should you know, kind
49:19
of get into he's background or something and that's when he
49:24
introduced me to you know the acting and that's when I was in
49:27
like say a little YouTube thing, I forgot thing was for guy Lele.
49:30
Pons or something like that. It was you know something small
49:33
but just being Around those people, I was like this is
49:35
pretty cool, but the day trading, pretty much kept me,
49:39
kept me afloat. And then the acting then, you
49:43
know, I was like, oh, this is the kind of money that's in
49:46
acting, okay? And then I was an extra and I
49:48
was like, wait, wait, so eight hours a day.
49:52
I can get paid this or he goes to overtime and I get free food,
49:56
right? Because craft Services is like
49:58
unreal, right? Exactly crap services on real
50:01
and you're just like, wait and I get free food and I We don't
50:04
have to do anything except for stand around.
50:06
Take some directions. Maybe sit down and holding for a
50:10
little bit. Okay, this is you know this is
50:12
easy and then it just kind of spiraled from there and then you
50:17
know, getting bigger roles and bigger roles.
50:19
And I was like, oh okay there's this kind of money in this.
50:23
Okay. So maybe a nine-to-five isn't
50:26
isn't you know, the lifestyle that I kind of want to live.
50:29
Maybe I want to live the actor freelance you know me.
50:34
Make my own future type type life and, you know, fortunately
50:40
enough, you know, I I've met some great people, you know,
50:43
yourself included, obviously, that even though it, you know,
50:46
it's taken awhile. Just meeting different people on
50:49
different platforms across the country, across the world across
50:53
the pond, you know, how random is that?
50:56
And I just been grateful since then for just any opportunity
51:00
that comes up. You know, anything but that was
51:03
and I said I mean your Manchester I would have never
51:07
met you. Like I would have never been on
51:10
your podcast man. I was in the finance office
51:13
somewhere it does. Blow my mind like I was doing a
51:16
live stream the other day and one of them.
51:18
Yeah. One of my followers said that
51:20
she was in, I don't know, California, I guess.
51:24
And yeah, it was just listening to my podcast with her friend in
51:29
the car and then another person was like, oh yeah.
51:31
In listening to your show, like, while we've been painting
51:35
decorating, the house somewhere, and I'm like, what there are
51:37
people across the world, listening to my stupid voice?
51:40
Like what? Oh my God, that's amazing.
51:45
But yeah, it's yeah, congratulations.
51:50
I told you before I came on this podcast, like, I've watched your
51:53
stuff. Oh wow, I mean, yeah,
51:55
absolutely, absolutely. Subscribe to all your stuff.
51:58
I said. Thank you so much, subscribe.
52:01
Instagram. Yeah, I mean, listen man,
52:05
anybody that has a creative mindset and that in that is bold
52:09
enough. And that's another thing I, when
52:11
I'm talking to somebody or watching a movie and the movie
52:13
is stupid, right? The acting is horrible.
52:15
And, you know, it and it is, it is, but it's not a budget movie,
52:19
you know? It's not that high production
52:20
movie, right? You kind of expect it, you know?
52:24
And I try to explain to my this not in the industry.
52:26
I might listen you don't understand how hard it is to put
52:30
yourself out there. Right to, to, to put yourself in
52:35
front of x amount of people because, you know, because
52:39
you'll get judge and whatever and they say, well public
52:41
speaking is like one of the hardest things in the world to
52:44
do. And so, you know, I'll sit and
52:47
watching a movie. And okay, the acting is horrible
52:51
but just the respect Factor, right?
52:53
Of of these people going out in this movie and being like, okay,
52:58
I know, I'm not the best actor but I'm still going to Be on
53:02
camera. I'm still gonna put myself out
53:04
there that I know only maybe my friends and family is going to
53:07
see like, and just doing anything, you know, putting
53:10
yourself out there like it gives me a greater appreciation and
53:13
and Kudos and love for anybody. That can do that, because it is
53:16
hard, right? It is hard to put down your
53:19
vulnerabilities into again, to go on camera, you know, for the
53:22
world for people to see. It's difficult.
53:27
It's, you know, especially if you're not used to that, if
53:31
you're bringing NG was introverted.
53:32
Like if your upbringing was introverted and now you're like,
53:35
okay, now I got a flip switch and go outside for the world to
53:39
see me. That's a difficult difficult
53:41
thing to do. So that's why I respect those
53:44
people so much, you know, anybody that can get on camera,
53:47
you know, whether it's sucks or doesn't it doesn't matter?
53:50
You know, just to be able to get past yourself, right?
53:53
Give it and get past yourself and say I'm doing this.
53:56
And I play. I agree with that.
54:00
Well, this this has been, this has been an absolutely amazing
54:02
show. It's been one of my longest for
54:05
a long time. We're up to two hours. 21
54:08
minutes man has been that long. It's not for me to take a nap 35
54:13
hard as my final question to you.
54:16
Do you have any upcoming projects or some final thoughts
54:18
you'd like to share with our listeners?
54:21
Yeah, upcoming projects, I'm still doing my show, so you
54:25
know, those episodes will still be coming out.
54:27
I do have a movie small feature, film that I was in since I've
54:32
been back here. Actually, it's called Mackenzie.
54:36
And so that should be out in September also on to be
54:41
shattered choices as well. So that was another little
54:44
small. Well, small film that I was in
54:48
but that's just kind of been what I've been doing.
54:50
Since I've been back in Illinois for the, you know, for the past
54:52
couple of weeks, you're trying to keep myself busy, you know,
54:55
while I'm here before I, you know, head back across the
54:57
country. And yeah, I mean, and that's,
55:00
and that's basically it. And, of course, this project
55:02
which I've been looking forward to, to be honest with you, man.
55:05
I've been looking forward to this, to this, for a couple
55:07
weeks, you know, since you told me, yeah, since you told me
55:10
about it, like, I was looking forward to this for a couple
55:13
weeks because this is Maybe on a podcast that you know, you don't
55:18
understand. Like I'm still so new to this
55:20
industry that everything blows my mind, everything is like,
55:25
holy crap, he wants me to be on a podcast.
55:28
Like okay, you know, I everything everything.
55:33
Just every opportunity I'm just like, oh me are you sure?
55:36
Have you seen me like, you know, who I am?
55:38
Really you want me to be on it? Oh, okay.
55:40
I guess you know like so I I mean it I guess.
55:44
Ted, thank you. Thank you, man.
55:47
This thank you man. You've been absolutely
55:49
incredible. I've really enjoyed talking to
55:54
you about about all of this. Like this started as me wanting
55:57
to just understand what your show was and its ability to just
56:01
uh no no I think there's legs with with that project.
56:10
I think it just needs tweaking I'd.
56:12
But I think like a good idea is always A good idea dinner
56:16
sometimes things just need tweaking like crikey my show,
56:20
this podcast needed a lot of tweaking.
56:22
My one of the biggest things I had to learn to do which people
56:26
have remarked on, as well as is trying to make it flow better.
56:31
I used to be so rigid and not really, I wasn't really a,
56:34
particularly great interview. I don't think I was too shy and
56:36
nervous and it didn't flow very well.
56:39
It's like awkward. It'd be like going from one
56:41
question to the next. And one thing I've really tried
56:44
to do is is make it like flow better and be more
56:46
conversational and you know and then it just kind of became that
56:52
and and that and that's why I pride myself on and then other
56:54
things like being able to ad lib and just kind of just be in the
56:57
moment, be in the zone stopped worrying about the show and just
57:02
make it a good piece of entertainment restoration,
57:04
right? But the people can enjoy
57:06
sedation, right? Yeah.
57:08
So, yeah, I believe in what you're doing and and yeah, just
57:12
thank you so much for this, this wonderful conversation.
57:14
Ation man, really appreciate that.
57:16
You're always, welcome back on the show.
57:18
Thanks man. Any criticisms tweak edges or
57:22
whatever you know that you have for my show, please, you know,
57:25
call me and you like say you have all my information.
57:28
Send me a message. Something let me know because
57:30
you know, like I mentioned before every single episode
57:34
every single season I want to get better, right?
57:38
I wanted to move up II saw where it was And you know, I have a
57:44
vision of where it can go, you know, I might not necessarily
57:48
know how to get it there but I have a vision of how it can go
57:53
and so any any criticisms any tweaking edges anything that
57:58
anybody says like I'm all ears. I'm listening.
58:00
You know any stories that somebody has that?
58:03
They'll tell me. Okay listen you know this person
58:06
dot dot dot dot dot and they're like okay can you make that into
58:09
something? I'm in like I you know what I
58:11
mean? Like, I'll sit in a dark room
58:14
and I will create a weird story that I will make it into
58:16
something crazy, you know. But and so anybody that's
58:20
willing to engage I'm definitely all ears.
58:23
You know I'm not like hey this is my show.
58:26
I'm not doing it this way because there's no, no I'm like.
58:28
Okay look, if you think that'll make it better I'll try it out.
58:32
If it doesn't work, it doesn't work big deal if it does work.
58:36
Cool, what other ideas you got? So, you know, I'm definitely
58:39
open to to Thing to criticism thuy kids, you know tweaks.
58:44
Whatever. So and you got your stuff on
58:47
together so you know, anything you want to tell me for sure.
58:50
Please just, you know, send me a message and I'll be alright,
58:52
cool. I added to the next episode,
58:54
whatever, you know, I'm in. Thank you so much man.
58:57
Really, really, really been a pleasure.
58:59
And man, he said you have my utmost respect.
59:02
Yeah. Almost respect me for everything
59:04
that you're doing and I see you've come a long way, man.
59:07
So it's Thank you. I'm proud to be on this show.
59:11
Yeah. And you have my respect to man.
59:12
Thank you so much. And to all the listeners of the
59:15
Christian re podcast, as always be safe.
59:18
Be well, and I'll see you in the next one.