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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Shawn Combs wants the sex worker to be well in doubt. Again,
- 0:13Speaker 2: this ain't a trust fund at Harvard University.
- 0:16Speaker 3: They've got a lot of great evidence against Diddy, but
- 0:19Speaker 3: if they engage in prosecutorial.
- 0:21Speaker 4: Mission, if the engage.
- 0:26Speaker 5: Enough to prove this showing the state's putting on too
- 0:29Speaker 5: much evidence, it's wrong.
- 0:30Speaker 6: I heard doctor Marshall described was a domestic battery situation,
- 0:34Speaker 6: and that's.
- 0:34Speaker 4: What this is. That's what I've been saying. This is
- 0:37Speaker 4: not sex traffic.
- 0:41Speaker 1: I think people.
- 0:42Speaker 7: Around him knew that he had an assassination with powerful.
- 0:48Speaker 2: Looking famous people private parts. Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'Neill. This
- 0:56Speaker 2: is what he's interested in.
- 0:58Speaker 8: This fantasy is of being at the center of attention,
- 1:01Speaker 8: the king of the world, and maybe the fact is
- 1:03Speaker 8: he's compensating for his small appendage.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Good evening, I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I
- 1:10Speaker 2: want to thank you for being with us. Straight out
- 1:12Speaker 2: to the courthouse standing by Tisa Tells, pop culture commentator
- 1:17Speaker 2: and star of Tisa Tales on YouTube, Tisa, thank you
- 1:20Speaker 2: for being with us.
- 1:21Speaker 1: Tell me, first of all, what happening court.
- 1:24Speaker 9: Today, Nancy today, the court was a pure circus.
- 1:28Speaker 10: Kanye West actually showed up and.
- 1:31Speaker 9: Turned the court house into Pandemonio.
- 1:35Speaker 10: By the way. We did speak to him. We were
- 1:37Speaker 10: not able to.
- 1:37Speaker 9: Get exclusive, but he is expected to be in here
- 1:40Speaker 9: all next week, so Nancy, you know I'm going to
- 1:43Speaker 9: get the exclusive for you. Aside from that, Viddy was
- 1:46Speaker 9: called nodding again by the prosecution.
- 1:49Speaker 10: The prosecution brought it up to the judge.
- 1:51Speaker 9: Bryant still actually stood up and said he vouches his
- 1:55Speaker 9: personal integrity that he did not see Ditty nodding. The
- 1:59Speaker 9: only thing is I was one hundred percent looking at
- 2:02Speaker 9: Ditty and saw him turn around and looked to his supporters,
- 2:05Speaker 9: meaning his family in the back and nod vigorously.
- 2:08Speaker 10: The prosecution wanted him to know.
- 2:10Speaker 9: That's still a point of testimony. If you don't know,
- 2:13Speaker 9: now you know, and they want him to knock it off.
- 2:16Speaker 1: Taste of tales.
- 2:17Speaker 2: How did the star witness of today hold up?
- 2:21Speaker 10: Nancy, I got to tell you.
- 2:22Speaker 9: The star witness of today was the assault rifle with
- 2:26Speaker 9: filed off serial numbers that had a magazine that.
- 2:30Speaker 10: Held sixty rounds of green point ammal. What is that?
- 2:33Speaker 9: Well, Homeland Security was kind enough to explain it is
- 2:36Speaker 9: a type of ammal that.
- 2:37Speaker 10: Actually pierces bullet proof vest.
- 2:41Speaker 9: That was the star witness, as much as Ditty's team
- 2:44Speaker 9: tried and tried it again to seem like it's just
- 2:46Speaker 9: casual and casual of the security to have this gun
- 2:50Speaker 9: around with no serial numbers. Listen, you cannot make green
- 2:56Speaker 9: point ammunition seem as it's just standard security protocol.
- 3:00Speaker 10: Again, we were shocked.
- 3:02Speaker 1: TSA.
- 3:03Speaker 2: How was Sean Combs reacting to the testimony? Did he
- 3:07Speaker 2: do his usual kicking around, twirling around, putting his head
- 3:12Speaker 2: in his hands, or if it's really bad, squinting into
- 3:15Speaker 2: the monitor like it's not happening.
- 3:18Speaker 9: Listen, you want to know how Sean did he calms
- 3:21Speaker 9: is reacting to testimony vigorously turning around and nodding ahead.
- 3:25Speaker 10: Again, the prosecution.
- 3:27Speaker 9: Let it be known that they have people on all
- 3:29Speaker 9: points of the courtroom looking at him. Again, I will
- 3:33Speaker 9: say one thing, did he sees an inch? He will
- 3:36Speaker 9: take a mile? Unfortunately, the prosecution let it be known
- 3:40Speaker 9: it ends today and the judge actually put a reminder.
- 3:44Speaker 10: I believe now, did he is well?
- 3:46Speaker 9: Notice there's nobody else he can not his head at
- 3:48Speaker 9: unless he looked at the ceiling of nads his head,
- 3:50Speaker 9: which I wouldn't put it past him. Again, Diddy's body
- 3:54Speaker 9: language was unspoken testimony. But I'm glad the prosecution shut
- 3:58Speaker 9: it down.
- 3:59Speaker 2: And you know what, Rumshooter, you with all these years
- 4:03Speaker 2: as a PR expert, the jury can very likely smell
- 4:08Speaker 2: the stink of fear.
- 4:10Speaker 10: You can.
- 4:10Speaker 2: Actually, it's like a presence in the courtroom. Once the
- 4:14Speaker 2: tide turns, suddenly the whole dynamic changes in the courtroom.
- 4:19Speaker 2: And I want to hear from your point of view, specifically,
- 4:23Speaker 2: how Sean Combs is responding to this turn in the tide.
- 4:28Speaker 7: He'll be shocked, so at first he'll be in denial
- 4:31Speaker 7: about it. I've been in a lot of his shows
- 4:33Speaker 7: and some of them did not go very well, and
- 4:35Speaker 7: he used to say afterwards, I could feel the crowd.
- 4:37Speaker 7: I'm losing the crowd. That's what he must be feeling
- 4:41Speaker 7: right now. He is losing this jury.
- 4:43Speaker 4: However, knowing Puffy like I do, he doesn't give in
- 4:48Speaker 4: without a fight.
- 4:49Speaker 7: He's going to be screaming at his lawyers. He's going
- 4:52Speaker 7: to be screaming at his team. It's no coincidence that
- 4:55Speaker 7: suddenly his PR machine is outside the tie or trying
- 5:00Speaker 7: to influence people to say nice things. They know they
- 5:04Speaker 7: know they're in trouble, but they are not giving up
- 5:07Speaker 7: without a fight.
- 5:08Speaker 2: Did you hear Rob Shooter that ray J who I
- 5:12Speaker 2: got in a big knockdown here at Knockdown drag out
- 5:15Speaker 2: with the other day over. Sean Combs has now threatened
- 5:18Speaker 2: to leave the country because of the Didy trial. He
- 5:21Speaker 2: should want to stay in the country because of the
- 5:25Speaker 2: Diddy trial, because these women are being represented in court,
- 5:29Speaker 2: They're being given a voice after years of abuse, But
- 5:32Speaker 2: he wants to leave the country.
- 5:34Speaker 1: Really him and Alec Baldwin Bye, I heard this story.
- 5:38Speaker 4: I saw your conversation with him.
- 5:40Speaker 7: I think it's about being a cology. Know, Nancy, I
- 5:42Speaker 7: do not have to sit down and get on your
- 5:44Speaker 7: show with you, as much as I enjoy talking to you, Nancy,
- 5:47Speaker 7: But I think people that worked with Didy, people that
- 5:50Speaker 7: maybe once defended Diddy, have to nice speak.
- 5:53Speaker 4: You can't be quiet, you can't run away. That is
- 5:57Speaker 4: being complicit. You have to just speak out.
- 6:00Speaker 7: There are a lot of people in New York around
- 6:03Speaker 7: the world who made a lot of money by being
- 6:05Speaker 7: around diggy editors of magazines, executives and Essay Norder, the
- 6:10Speaker 7: Fragrance Company executives at maces where they sold his clothing line.
- 6:15Speaker 7: Where are all those people now? I tried to come
- 6:17Speaker 7: and call a lot of them, and nobody's returning, my
- 6:20Speaker 7: cause they are all running away, maybe not leaving the country,
- 6:23Speaker 7: but they're running away.
- 6:24Speaker 2: Running away from Seawn Combs. And also what's concerning for
- 6:29Speaker 2: instance here ray j is a great example. He seems
- 6:32Speaker 2: very likable. You know, a lot of people think he's
- 6:35Speaker 2: handsome and talented. If he is siding with Seawan Combs
- 6:40Speaker 2: after all this testimony, that's not good because it's a
- 6:43Speaker 2: test for who on the jury could be feeling the same.
- 6:47Speaker 2: Wait back to Tisa Tels joining us outside the courthouse.
- 6:50Speaker 2: You've described one jurrr, a lady gurr who you've been
- 6:54Speaker 2: a little worried about up front, and then you went
- 6:56Speaker 2: to two other jurrrs I believe you said on the
- 6:59Speaker 2: back left.
- 7:00Speaker 9: Yeah, so in the middle row on the left. Okay,
- 7:03Speaker 9: they're sharing a monitor.
- 7:05Speaker 10: Again. I have to tell you how impactful this was.
- 7:08Speaker 10: The prosecution didn't just show one picture, two picture. It
- 7:11Speaker 10: was like again again and again. So it was rapid
- 7:14Speaker 10: fire and they.
- 7:15Speaker 9: Were leaning in almost as if they were looking at
- 7:18Speaker 9: like gruesome carnage and leaning out. At one point she
- 7:22Speaker 9: looked to the side. The jury was visibly uncomfortable. They
- 7:26Speaker 9: were squirming. They literally had to look away, and the
- 7:30Speaker 9: prosecution didn't let up. Another picture, another picture, another picture,
- 7:34Speaker 9: and it was so impactful. Again, I'm not gonna lie.
- 7:37Speaker 9: At that time, I think mistrial. They started to get
- 7:40Speaker 9: the idea of throwing in another mistrial. The jury was repulsed,
- 7:45Speaker 9: but again that shocked the all, leaning.
- 7:48Speaker 1: In like what is that?
- 7:49Speaker 11: Oh my god, it was a lot.
- 7:52Speaker 9: Again we wanted to see what was on those photos too,
- 7:55Speaker 9: But I see the point the prosecution was making, like
- 7:57Speaker 9: these are very graphic, disgusting, whatever it is, but it
- 8:01Speaker 9: bought it home on what a hotel night was a
- 8:05Speaker 9: dirty free call.
- 8:07Speaker 2: So Jason, what about the male jurors Are they responding
- 8:10Speaker 2: the same way as the lady gerors?
- 8:12Speaker 9: I gotta I gotta say it was a little bit
- 8:15Speaker 9: concerned about the male jervers, But when it comes to
- 8:18Speaker 9: the graphic nature and the pictures, they also were very,
- 8:23Speaker 9: very disgusted again leaning in, what is that, rubbing their
- 8:26Speaker 9: heads looking to the side, just being like are these
- 8:29Speaker 9: size of woof?
- 8:31Speaker 10: Like it was a lot again, the.
- 8:34Speaker 9: Prosecution through all of the smoke screens. You know, they
- 8:38Speaker 9: are moving forward now and again. When we heard testimony
- 8:41Speaker 9: about the ten thousand rent and whether you know she
- 8:47Speaker 9: was a girlfriend or not, it seemed like they might have.
- 8:49Speaker 10: Been losing them. But the pictures it bought it home.
- 8:52Speaker 2: You know, to Troy Slayton, trial lawyer out of LA
- 8:55Speaker 2: when a grown man looks away from a photo of
- 9:00Speaker 2: a sex scene with disgust, a man looks away, it's bad, yes,
- 9:06Speaker 2: But here's.
- 9:07Speaker 3: What's well, Here's what really concerns me, Nancy, is that
- 9:10Speaker 3: the prosecutors shouldn't overplay their hand. They've got a lot
- 9:14Speaker 3: of great evidence against Ditty. But if they engage in
- 9:18Speaker 3: prosecutorial miss book, if the.
- 9:21Speaker 5: Engagement doesn't have enough to prove this, putting on too
- 9:26Speaker 5: much evidence.
- 9:27Speaker 1: It's wrong.
- 9:28Speaker 3: But what they can't use is one witness to say
- 9:31Speaker 3: that Ditty is a liar again and again unless he testifies.
- 9:36Speaker 3: So the federal rules of evidence are very specific.
- 9:38Speaker 2: All you've gotten to say select the defendant is a
- 9:42Speaker 2: man and looking.
- 9:43Speaker 1: Away from a photo of a naked woman.
- 9:46Speaker 2: They're disgusted, they're nauseated, they're grossed out. And you're talking
- 9:51Speaker 2: what what? That's what I'm asking you. So you're trying
- 9:54Speaker 2: to make me talk about something else.
- 9:55Speaker 3: If they have a great, wonderful playbook of all this evidence,
- 9:59Speaker 3: why don't they just stay to that. Why do they
- 10:01Speaker 3: try to overplay their hand by keeping to show these
- 10:04Speaker 3: text messages that say that Diddy is a liar because the.
- 10:08Speaker 1: Federal ruth is terrible when you have a royal flush.
- 10:11Speaker 3: But the federal rules don't allow it.
- 10:18Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
- 10:24Speaker 2: Back to Tisa Tails joining us at the courthouse, Tisa
- 10:27Speaker 2: that apology video that Jane was there when comes brings
- 10:33Speaker 2: in the family advisors her, they talk to a lawyer
- 10:37Speaker 2: about doing the apology video. And it seems as if
- 10:42Speaker 2: Seawan Holmes was instructed not to use Cassie's name, And
- 10:46Speaker 2: I think I know why because it would be somewhat
- 10:48Speaker 2: of an admission. So tell me about Jane's testimony about
- 10:54Speaker 2: her helping construct that apology video that Shawn Combs disseminated
- 10:59Speaker 2: on Now.
- 11:00Speaker 9: One of the most shocking things that came out about
- 11:02Speaker 9: in the courthouse was, as you know, the his apology
- 11:06Speaker 9: video was largely well received, not well received because people.
- 11:10Speaker 10: Thought that it was.
- 11:11Speaker 9: Disrespectful because he never said Cassie's name. We found out,
- 11:15Speaker 9: and it was super shocking by a Mark Agnofilio that
- 11:19Speaker 9: he was the one that said take Cassie's name out
- 11:22Speaker 9: of there because she may well be a grand jury witness.
- 11:25Speaker 9: And already they were forward thinking that they didn't want
- 11:28Speaker 9: to look like they were in any way tampering that.
- 11:30Speaker 11: Now, what does that tell us?
- 11:32Speaker 9: It tells us, and it told the courtroom largely he
- 11:35Speaker 9: knew how much trouble he was in, and he knew
- 11:37Speaker 9: Jane was one of the only people that can.
- 11:41Speaker 11: Either testify right or put a nail in his caulfin.
- 11:45Speaker 10: And that's why it was so shocking.
- 11:46Speaker 9: That people, as her testimony went on, that you know,
- 11:49Speaker 9: this woman has your freedom in her hands, but its
- 11:53Speaker 9: nature couldn't be denied, and he proceeded to treat her.
- 11:56Speaker 11: Even more cruelly, even more shocking.
- 11:59Speaker 9: Again, it was very strategic having around, having her around
- 12:02Speaker 9: the family, having her lawyers, paying for her lawyers, making
- 12:07Speaker 9: sure sure that there was nothing that could she would
- 12:09Speaker 9: be under the umbrella of employee privilege, I'm sorry, non
- 12:14Speaker 9: employee of legal privilege. However, however, it looks like they
- 12:19Speaker 9: somehow misplayed that.
- 12:20Speaker 11: Because here we are again.
- 12:22Speaker 9: In court and Jane is right now having Diddy's freedom
- 12:25Speaker 9: in her hands.
- 12:26Speaker 2: I love the way that you explain that kind of
- 12:29Speaker 2: keeping her in the fold so she would use his
- 12:32Speaker 2: lawyer that he paid for so he could still keep
- 12:36Speaker 2: a tab on her. And she was very quick to
- 12:39Speaker 2: point out Tsa that she did not speak to investigators
- 12:44Speaker 2: before she testified at the grand jury, that she didn't.
- 12:47Speaker 1: Cooperate with them.
- 12:48Speaker 2: She was only there because she was subpoened and forced
- 12:51Speaker 2: to be there, and that's after speaking to the lawyer.
- 12:55Speaker 1: Sean Shawn Comes provided for her.
- 12:57Speaker 2: Now, I want everybody to look at what Pa tells
- 13:00Speaker 2: us talking about the apology video.
- 13:04Speaker 1: Jane the witness was there when the family.
- 13:06Speaker 2: And the lawyers are all trying to figure out what
- 13:09Speaker 2: are we gonna say in the way of the Cassie
- 13:11Speaker 2: beat down video.
- 13:12Speaker 1: This is critical watch.
- 13:15Speaker 12: It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in
- 13:19Speaker 12: your life.
- 13:21Speaker 4: Sometimes you gotta do that. I was fucked up.
- 13:27Speaker 12: I mean I had rock bottom, but I made no excuses.
- 13:32Speaker 10: My behavior on that video is inexcusable.
- 13:36Speaker 12: I take full responsibility for my ashes in that video. Disgusted,
- 13:43Speaker 12: I was disgusted. Then when I did it, I'm disgusting.
- 13:46Speaker 12: Now I went and I sought our professional help. Now
- 13:53Speaker 12: to go into therapy, we're going to rehab. Had to
- 13:59Speaker 12: ask God is mercy and grace? I'm so sorry, but
- 14:11Speaker 12: I'm committed to be a better manage in every day.
- 14:15Speaker 12: I'm not asking for forgiveness. I'm truly sorry.
- 14:23Speaker 2: I really don't even know what to say that. That's
- 14:25Speaker 2: from Didy's official instagram except technical legal terms BS therapy,
- 14:33Speaker 2: my rear end, rehab really and then asking God to
- 14:36Speaker 2: forgive him?
- 14:39Speaker 1: Woa whoa woe?
- 14:40Speaker 2: Tisa tells, isn't it true according to the witness who
- 14:44Speaker 2: is under oath and would be committing perjury if.
- 14:48Speaker 1: She's lying that?
- 14:50Speaker 2: After his apology video, he then goes on to beat
- 14:57Speaker 2: Jane so badly that in one case he broke down
- 15:03Speaker 2: the door and she has video of that and the
- 15:07Speaker 2: jury saw it. Now, this is when he's trying to
- 15:10Speaker 2: be a better man again.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Objection, my rear end. That's a lie, be a better man?
- 15:20Speaker 10: He beat her to helen back.
- 15:23Speaker 1: Is that when he's a better man tore down the
- 15:25Speaker 1: door again? Objection, my rare end.
- 15:28Speaker 9: What happened in court when Jane Doe testified, we all
- 15:33Speaker 9: knew the violence was coming, but nobody knew what was
- 15:35Speaker 9: going to be a scene out of the shining to
- 15:38Speaker 9: hear that little bunny rabbit talk about. Yes, she threw
- 15:42Speaker 9: a glass, Yes she threw a candle, and then she
- 15:44Speaker 9: went on a chase through her house.
- 15:46Speaker 11: She ran to the bedroom door, realizing quickly she made
- 15:49Speaker 11: a mistake.
- 15:50Speaker 9: She locked the door. He kicked in the door again.
- 15:53Speaker 9: These are expensive, heavy doors. She even said it was
- 15:57Speaker 9: so much to.
- 15:58Speaker 10: Fix she couldn't afford it.
- 16:00Speaker 9: Which, by the way, he gave her the money to
- 16:02Speaker 9: fix these doors in cash in an unmarked brown paper bag.
- 16:06Speaker 10: Which seems to be the Diddy Special. Let's see what
- 16:08Speaker 10: the irs has to say about this, you know.
- 16:11Speaker 11: But he kicked in one door, right it was.
- 16:14Speaker 10: She ran to the bathroom. He kicked in the door
- 16:18Speaker 10: to the bathroom.
- 16:19Speaker 9: She ran to the closet hiding and Kit was trying
- 16:22Speaker 9: to kick in the door to the closet, kicked the handle,
- 16:25Speaker 9: kicked the door.
- 16:26Speaker 10: She did what she could. She seriously changed into a
- 16:29Speaker 10: dress she could run in. He kicked that in.
- 16:31Speaker 9: She ran out the house barefoot too, six blocks barefoot
- 16:37Speaker 9: in a dark southern California evening. You know how dark
- 16:41Speaker 9: it gets in and she hid for about two hours,
- 16:45Speaker 9: hoping that he would calm down and go away.
- 16:48Speaker 10: At the end of two hours, she.
- 16:49Speaker 9: Came back, still scared out of her mind and came
- 16:53Speaker 9: back and that demon was still waiting for her.
- 16:56Speaker 11: And the violence she actually said he went through. It
- 16:59Speaker 11: broke our heartspit.
- 17:00Speaker 9: It actually shocks and mind you why we're listening to
- 17:03Speaker 9: the violence that was to come. The apology video is
- 17:07Speaker 9: still fresh in our minds. Cassie is still set fresh
- 17:11Speaker 9: in our minds. When I say he painted him all
- 17:13Speaker 9: his own self out to be a liar, it was
- 17:16Speaker 9: shocking and groundbreaking.
- 17:18Speaker 11: Just how damaging her testimony was to him.
- 17:21Speaker 1: Straight out to the courthouse, taste of tails.
- 17:24Speaker 2: You know it's bad when Jimmy Kimmel gets a mouthful
- 17:28Speaker 2: of your rear.
- 17:29Speaker 1: End right, he bent right.
- 17:30Speaker 2: Into Sean Combs talking about having his children attend the trial.
- 17:36Speaker 2: It's not the quote ideal take your family to work day.
- 17:42Speaker 2: It's the family still sitting in the courtroom, the children
- 17:46Speaker 2: hearing about three male sex workers entertaining him their father,
- 17:52Speaker 2: Seawan Combs listen, but children are back.
- 17:55Speaker 9: I will think justin Colmes has been mia. However, we
- 17:59Speaker 9: did see Christian Calms, we did see Quincy Calms, and
- 18:03Speaker 9: we show song didty Colm's mother in court listening to
- 18:07Speaker 9: the tawdry details looking stone face again, I've said it
- 18:12Speaker 9: all this time. We don't know if Diddy has pr
- 18:14Speaker 9: on the ground. If he does, they are doing a
- 18:17Speaker 9: horrible job because the optics it has never played over
- 18:22Speaker 9: as well. Again, what are your sins doing? They're looking around,
- 18:27Speaker 9: They're passing notes back to each other. They're writing things down. Now,
- 18:31Speaker 9: to be fair, there's no talking in the courtroom, but
- 18:33Speaker 9: to gott to wonder what are on these notes they're
- 18:36Speaker 9: passing back and forth when they're hearing about daddy's little secret. Okay,
- 18:41Speaker 9: it has been very tense. They look around, but they
- 18:44Speaker 9: are sitting there stoicly stone face.
- 18:46Speaker 10: But it makes me wonder.
- 18:47Speaker 9: Okay, as nice as those kids seem to be, and
- 18:50Speaker 9: daddy goes bye bye, it looks like federal forfeits are
- 18:53Speaker 9: also might be taking their trust funds. Because you gotta asks,
- 18:56Speaker 9: are you supporting your father for your bank account?
- 18:59Speaker 10: Or true?
- 19:00Speaker 9: Because this is a unanimous showing of love and support.
- 19:04Speaker 1: Tis to think back.
- 19:05Speaker 2: Work comes as children in the courtroom when we heard
- 19:09Speaker 2: testimony about the male sex workers showing up and Shawn
- 19:12Speaker 2: Combs comes striding and button naked from the neck down,
- 19:16Speaker 2: wearing a burger from the neck up.
- 19:18Speaker 1: Did they hear that too?
- 19:20Speaker 10: Ugly enough? Every single time the Colmbs' children.
- 19:24Speaker 9: Heard devastating, disgusting, perverse testimony about their father, Okay, the
- 19:29Speaker 9: next day they were mia.
- 19:32Speaker 10: I don't know if it is because they needed.
- 19:33Speaker 9: To go back to their happy place and wash that
- 19:36Speaker 9: visual out about the man that they love respect they's
- 19:39Speaker 9: supposed to guide them, or maybe they look at the
- 19:42Speaker 9: social media just like we do and see that the
- 19:44Speaker 9: public things is actually weird that a family we once
- 19:48Speaker 9: thought were the most loving, close family literally will sit
- 19:51Speaker 9: there and look the other way when they hear about
- 19:54Speaker 9: horrible abuse and depravity with women that they largely knew.
- 19:58Speaker 9: For Let's think about Cassie, she was with Dinny four
- 20:00Speaker 9: ten years. Let's look at Jane Do she was there
- 20:03Speaker 9: for Dinny for four years. These are women that they
- 20:06Speaker 9: should know and have some type of some type of
- 20:10Speaker 9: connection with.
- 20:10Speaker 10: Again, very very odd.
- 20:13Speaker 2: So Greg Morse joining me, veteran Troyal lawyer, criminal defense attorney,
- 20:16Speaker 2: joining us out of the Palm Beachs Jurisdiction, author of
- 20:19Speaker 2: Untested on Amazon at morselegal dot com. So you're still
- 20:24Speaker 2: saying it's just a tiff between boyfriend and girlfriend.
- 20:27Speaker 6: Well, it's the James testimony. If I didn't know who
- 20:31Speaker 6: called her, I would think the defense called her. Her
- 20:33Speaker 6: testimony wasn't supportive of sex trafficking. It was supportive of battery.
- 20:38Speaker 6: Maybe aggrevated section.
- 20:41Speaker 10: Here, thanks sre Well.
- 20:42Speaker 4: I know it's not people that the day.
- 20:44Speaker 6: Before Sean Combs is arrested, they go and have a
- 20:47Speaker 6: hotel night with them. They want to rub their feet
- 20:50Speaker 6: in afterwards. These are women that made bad choices to
- 20:54Speaker 6: with the sex stuff, but none of their testimony says
- 20:57Speaker 6: that the violence was to force them into She only
- 21:00Speaker 6: got angry when she thought Seawn Comes was actually sleeping
- 21:04Speaker 6: with another person. She still had her rent paid. That
- 21:07Speaker 6: was her main concern when the employment separated. She testified
- 21:11Speaker 6: to that. So, while Seawn Combs is a horrible, weak
- 21:14Speaker 6: human being and disgusting, the prosecution charged this as sex trafficking,
- 21:19Speaker 6: and the defense has to be very happy with what
- 21:22Speaker 6: would have been much worse testimony that Jane gave them
- 21:25Speaker 6: the things they said in opening that this was an
- 21:28Speaker 6: angry person. This was someone maybe you wouldn't do these
- 21:31Speaker 6: type of sex acts and these type of partying, but
- 21:35Speaker 6: these women.
- 21:36Speaker 4: Intentionally did it.
- 21:37Speaker 6: They only got angry after the fact, and that's what.
- 21:40Speaker 4: We're seeing here.
- 21:40Speaker 6: And as far as the sex trafficking case, unfortunately, these
- 21:44Speaker 6: aren't victims of sex trafficking. Real victims of sex trafficking
- 21:47Speaker 6: don't rub their captor's feet unless they're forced too. They
- 21:50Speaker 6: don't get their rent paid when they don't live with
- 21:52Speaker 6: the person. That's just not how it goes. So he's
- 21:55Speaker 6: a horrible human. But the defense got some good stuff
- 21:58Speaker 6: to work with in Jane's testimony and the mistrial. It's
- 22:02Speaker 6: probably because Sean looked at the juror and the prosecution
- 22:05Speaker 6: got excited and tried to.
- 22:07Speaker 4: Make a big deal of it. So you know, these
- 22:09Speaker 4: things happening.
- 22:11Speaker 2: The mistaw motion was by the defense. I believe it's
- 22:14Speaker 2: the third one they've made, the third one the men
- 22:16Speaker 2: shot down.
- 22:17Speaker 1: So doctor Bethany Marshall, when a woman.
- 22:20Speaker 2: Is beaten and beaten and beaten and dragged and hiding
- 22:24Speaker 2: in the bushes and riding, I am not an animal.
- 22:28Speaker 2: I don't want to be locked in a room and
- 22:31Speaker 2: forced to perform sex tricks while you watch. That is
- 22:36Speaker 2: not consensual sex.
- 22:39Speaker 8: Well, Nancy, she's saying no. No means no. Even adolescents
- 22:45Speaker 8: know that. Now in our society, she is saying no,
- 22:48Speaker 8: and he kicks down four doors. And let me tell
- 22:51Speaker 8: you something, Nancy, when a person is enraged or having
- 22:55Speaker 8: a rage attack, it takes only twenty minutes for the
- 22:59Speaker 8: admigned delight to call back down again. In other words,
- 23:02Speaker 8: he could have controlled himself. He could have walked out
- 23:05Speaker 8: that door, walked around the block, taken a pause, taken
- 23:08Speaker 8: a beat, but he enjoyed beating her. This was a
- 23:12Speaker 8: sadistic beat down, which tells me that he was in
- 23:17Speaker 8: full control of her. I doubt she could have gotten
- 23:20Speaker 8: away even though she was trying. He beat her within
- 23:23Speaker 8: an inch of her life and let her live so
- 23:26Speaker 8: he could sex traffic her even more if these allegations
- 23:29Speaker 8: are true. So we keep talking about how women don't
- 23:33Speaker 8: get away from men like this. This is the tale,
- 23:36Speaker 8: this unfolding right now. If anyone has any doubt about
- 23:39Speaker 8: women staying with men who abuse them or sex traffic them,
- 23:43Speaker 8: just listen to the story and ask yourself if Jane
- 23:46Speaker 8: could have left, or if she was afraid for her life.
- 23:49Speaker 1: Kimmel and I quote.
- 23:51Speaker 2: If that wasn't bad enough, Diddy's mother was there to
- 23:54Speaker 2: hear this. Report say when she entered the courtroom, he
- 23:57Speaker 2: checked in and asked if she had ate any thing.
- 24:00Speaker 2: She said she did. Kimmel says, get ready to throw up.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Take a listen to Jimmy Kimmel.
- 24:07Speaker 1: Let's hear it from the horse's mouth.
- 24:09Speaker 13: If that wasn't bad enough, Diddy's mother was there to
- 24:12Speaker 13: hear this. Reports say that when she entered the courtroom,
- 24:15Speaker 13: he checked in, he asked her if she eaten anything.
- 24:18Speaker 13: She said, I did eat and then he told her
- 24:20Speaker 13: get ready to throw off because.
- 24:22Speaker 2: Tasa Hills is Shawnkamm's family still filming a documentary of this.
- 24:29Speaker 2: This is going to become his legacy, his sex trafficking trial.
- 24:33Speaker 9: Yes, Nancy, I know everybody has heard the rumors that
- 24:36Speaker 9: look like they've been confirmed that Shaun Colton's family is
- 24:39Speaker 9: actually filling a documentary on this. Again, one could argue
- 24:44Speaker 9: this legacy is going to be a sex trafficking file.
- 24:48Speaker 10: I think the documentary should be followed.
- 24:50Speaker 9: Daddy's money is about to dry up due to federal
- 24:53Speaker 9: forfeiture and we need other ways. Again, you gotta wonder
- 24:57Speaker 9: are they really just living in La la land and
- 25:00Speaker 9: drinking whatever did he is serving again?
- 25:04Speaker 10: Did he like spike drinks?
- 25:05Speaker 9: It makes me think where they're putting it in the
- 25:07Speaker 9: kid's milk, because how can they think, after what the
- 25:10Speaker 9: prosecution has done, that their father is going to get off.
- 25:15Speaker 9: It's actually takesperience that they are documenting probably the last
- 25:20Speaker 9: time they will ever see their father when he is
- 25:24Speaker 9: not behind bars. I hope they're holding on to this
- 25:28Speaker 9: time in the courtroom. And sadly enough, it looks like
- 25:30Speaker 9: that documentary is going to capture every last sad moment.
- 25:35Speaker 2: The defense trying their best to skewer a witness on
- 25:39Speaker 2: the stand, a former girlfriend of Shan Comes only known
- 25:44Speaker 2: as Jane too Tisa Tale standing by at the courthouse
- 25:47Speaker 2: store of Tisa Tales on YouTube, Tisa did they crack her?
- 25:52Speaker 1: And wait, Tisa, have you ever seen, for instance.
- 25:55Speaker 2: A horror movie or one of those satanic movies where
- 25:59Speaker 2: they throw holy water on the possessed person or the
- 26:04Speaker 2: demon and they ooh and it burns them. That's what
- 26:09Speaker 2: Jane is to ditty, That's what's happening she's the holy
- 26:16Speaker 2: water being thrown on ditty, right, and he's cringing and
- 26:20Speaker 2: they are trying to stab her through the heart with
- 26:25Speaker 2: a wooden steak. That's what's happening.
- 26:28Speaker 1: All day long. They went at it. Did it work?
- 26:32Speaker 1: Did they crack her?
- 26:33Speaker 9: Judging from the sentiment in the courtroom, it does not
- 26:36Speaker 9: look like she they cracked her. She stayed strong and
- 26:40Speaker 9: this is the best they could do. When she's in
- 26:42Speaker 9: the early years of the relationship. She hasn't gotten to
- 26:45Speaker 9: the part where he literally ripped his mask off. You know,
- 26:50Speaker 9: they didn't crack her because what they were claiming is ridiculous.
- 26:54Speaker 9: One hundred and fifty thousand over three years. You can
- 26:57Speaker 9: make fifty thousand a year. I believe working a little
- 27:00Speaker 9: bit of overtime. Again, it is it's always a choose
- 27:04Speaker 9: your own adventure. But it's lafable to believe. And Jane
- 27:06Speaker 9: did a good job of driving it home, like she said,
- 27:10Speaker 9: and it literally after that, we went immediately to a
- 27:13Speaker 9: break where she said, well, how much is my body worth?
- 27:17Speaker 9: Did He's team was taken aback and flat footed, because
- 27:19Speaker 9: what do you say to something like that, Because to
- 27:22Speaker 9: give a number it proves everything.
- 27:23Speaker 10: We think about Diddy, But again it was a powerful moment.
- 27:26Speaker 9: And Jane the little bunny rabbit, she is sharpening her
- 27:29Speaker 9: shake and she is in there fending off.
- 27:32Speaker 11: So I definitely think she did agreed.
- 27:34Speaker 2: Okay to send me some of our crime stories. Investigative reporter.
- 27:38Speaker 2: Do I understand this correctly? That Shawn comes aka Diddy fetishized.
- 27:46Speaker 1: Shaquille O'Neil. Okay, have you ever met him?
- 27:49Speaker 2: Hay's as tall as a door, right, I would not
- 27:52Speaker 2: mess with him. I wonder how he feels finding out
- 27:56Speaker 2: he's been fetishized by Shawn Combs.
- 27:59Speaker 1: Okay, that's neither here nor there. Plus Michael Jordan and
- 28:04Speaker 1: Kobe what Well.
- 28:06Speaker 14: That aligns with previous testimony that we've heard that Seawan
- 28:09Speaker 14: kOhm specifically wanted to see entertainers Genitalia before they were
- 28:15Speaker 14: invited for a freak off because he wanted it to
- 28:17Speaker 14: be as big as possible and not plays into this
- 28:21Speaker 14: Sadism's doctor Marshall.
- 28:23Speaker 1: Us may whoa what?
- 28:26Speaker 2: What?
- 28:26Speaker 1: Please call me? What did you say?
- 28:30Speaker 14: Tisa tell told us this a few days ago?
- 28:32Speaker 2: What did you say about Shaq's Genitalia?
- 28:35Speaker 14: I would have to assume that Shaq being the person
- 28:38Speaker 14: that he is is a very large person in every aspect. Nancy.
- 28:43Speaker 2: Okay, see here, Sydney, we talked about murder, serial murder, rape, arson,
- 28:51Speaker 2: childless station, drug lords. I don't have time for euphemisms.
- 28:57Speaker 1: Okay.
- 28:58Speaker 2: Yesterday you, Tisa Tales, kept talking to me about how
- 29:03Speaker 2: Seawn Comes, one of the sex workers, would be quote
- 29:06Speaker 2: well endowed. Okay, you're making it sound like, as I said,
- 29:12Speaker 2: a trust fund at Harvard University, when you're actually talking
- 29:17Speaker 2: about the physicality and I'm trying to put it delicately
- 29:21Speaker 2: so we don't get thrown off the air of the
- 29:24Speaker 2: sex workers. Is that correct? That's a yes, no, Tisa Tales.
- 29:28Speaker 9: Yes, yes, and listen, just a yes, just a yes.
- 29:35Speaker 2: Okay, Sidney Sumner, don't put perfume on the pig.
- 29:40Speaker 14: Tell it well, Nancy. It appears that Sean Combs wanted
- 29:44Speaker 14: an entertainer that could make up for his good feel
- 29:49Speaker 14: So we know that Seawan Colms, according to the civil lawsuit,
- 29:52Speaker 14: is not well endowed, so we think that he hired
- 29:56Speaker 14: entertainers that were much more so. And this could either
- 30:00Speaker 14: just be a personal insecurity or maybe it is this
- 30:05Speaker 14: sadism idea that doctor Bethidy Marshall has brought up several
- 30:08Speaker 14: times that he wanted the women who participated in these
- 30:13Speaker 14: hotel nights to feel some level of pain every single
- 30:16Speaker 14: time that they participated, and I wanted to restond Eric.
- 30:22Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, because I want to hear that.
- 30:25Speaker 14: So Sata said that the defense made it seeing that
- 30:28Speaker 14: Colmes ended these hotel nights early as Jane expressed being uncomfortable.
- 30:34Speaker 14: But she pushed back on that idea and said, no, no, no,
- 30:37Speaker 14: that was not out of sympathy for me. That was
- 30:40Speaker 14: not for my protection. That was because Sean Combs didn't
- 30:44Speaker 14: want to waste time on a bad hotel night when
- 30:47Speaker 14: it was clear I didn't have chemistry with this entertainer.
- 30:51Speaker 14: And that's why Jane says that she had a hand
- 30:53Speaker 14: in hiring entertainers, because there were certain people that she
- 30:58Speaker 14: at least knew and was comfortable with and wasn't so
- 31:01Speaker 14: freaked out by the fact that she was having sex
- 31:03Speaker 14: with a sex worker without a condom or a very
- 31:06Speaker 14: sweaty man, as Titha told us, so, the only reason
- 31:11Speaker 14: she had a hand in setting these up was to
- 31:13Speaker 14: protect herself, and Shawn Combs never canceled anything for her comfort.
- 31:18Speaker 14: It was because he didn't want to waste his time
- 31:21Speaker 14: and money on a bad hotel.
- 31:23Speaker 2: Night Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Now joining us from
- 31:37Speaker 2: the Monahan Federal Courthouse is Lauren Khnlin, starov Pop Crime
- 31:41Speaker 2: TV on YouTube. Investigative reporter Lauren Colin. Thank you for
- 31:45Speaker 2: being with us. What's your takeaway of what happened in
- 31:48Speaker 2: court today?
- 31:49Speaker 15: Maureen Comy made another comment to the judge that she
- 31:52Speaker 15: saw Diddy nodding again, not at the jury, but he
- 31:55Speaker 15: was nodding during cross examination, and at this point Brian
- 31:59Speaker 15: stealed up and said, your honor, my client has been
- 32:01Speaker 15: nothing but professional and mis call me.
- 32:05Speaker 10: She can't see him.
- 32:06Speaker 11: She's relying on.
- 32:07Speaker 10: The word of others.
- 32:08Speaker 15: And the judge said, look, there's gonna be a significant
- 32:11Speaker 15: number of reactions in the courtroom. I can't police all
- 32:14Speaker 15: of them. However, I am facing mister Holmes. You know,
- 32:17Speaker 15: I haven't seen him look at the jury, and I
- 32:18Speaker 15: will continue to watch this and look, does did he nod?
- 32:22Speaker 10: Yes?
- 32:23Speaker 15: He nods, But I think at this point, since he
- 32:26Speaker 15: was admonished the other day, he would be very silly
- 32:30Speaker 15: to go and look at the jury again and continue nodding.
- 32:33Speaker 15: So we'll keep an eye on that as well. And
- 32:36Speaker 15: today the jury their reaction, I think they had a
- 32:40Speaker 15: laugh or two during Agnifilo's cross when he brought up
- 32:43Speaker 15: the baby oil and the fact that Hsi has never
- 32:46Speaker 15: taken baby oil from a raid before. And then at
- 32:49Speaker 15: the end of his cross he kind of said, oh,
- 32:51Speaker 15: you're from LA to the special agent and he said yeah,
- 32:54Speaker 15: and then Agniholo said great, enjoy and joy New York,
- 32:57Speaker 15: and then everybody kind of.
- 32:58Speaker 10: Had a laugh.
- 32:58Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, hold on on, doctor beth Ay Marshall,
- 33:01Speaker 2: you see me looking off cameras because.
- 33:03Speaker 1: I had to make a flow chart.
- 33:05Speaker 2: So Seawan Combs wants the sex worker to be, in
- 33:10Speaker 2: the words of Sidney Sumner and Tasta tails Well in doubt. Again,
- 33:16Speaker 2: this ain't a trust fund at Harvard University.
- 33:19Speaker 1: That's not what we're talking about. Does this have anything
- 33:23Speaker 1: to do with that?
- 33:26Speaker 8: Well, not only is Diddy the diddler on the down low,
- 33:30Speaker 8: but he is compensating for his small penis, and I
- 33:33Speaker 8: do think that he has I think I would say
- 33:36Speaker 8: in all seriousness, poly perverse meaning a perversion technically is
- 33:41Speaker 8: when somebody cannot achieve orgasm through a relationship with another person.
- 33:47Speaker 8: They can only achieve orgasm through some fetishized experience like
- 33:53Speaker 8: looking at a penis, maybe a high heel, a whip,
- 33:56Speaker 8: a chain, something that just stimulates their fantasy, but it
- 34:00Speaker 8: has nothing to do with the person there in front
- 34:03Speaker 8: of And a common one is sadism. We talked about
- 34:07Speaker 8: this yesterday after the courtroom day wrapped. Is that is
- 34:12Speaker 8: inflicting pain and cruelty and humiliation on another person in
- 34:17Speaker 8: order to achieve sexual arousal. But I think that this
- 34:20Speaker 8: fantasy is of being at the center of attention, the
- 34:23Speaker 8: king of the world, somebody who has great capabilities, and
- 34:27Speaker 8: maybe the fact is he's compensating for his small appendage.
- 34:32Speaker 2: But one thing I don't get dot to Bethany Marshall,
- 34:35Speaker 2: it's like a fantasy on a fantasy and they're all weird.
- 34:39Speaker 1: Okay, so let me look at my float chart. It's
- 34:41Speaker 1: a role.
- 34:42Speaker 2: Play where Sean Combs is Michael Jordan, Okay, the paid
- 34:48Speaker 2: escort male escort has a shack attack he's Shack Shaquille O'Neil,
- 34:54Speaker 2: and Jane is Kobe. So it's a fantasy on top
- 34:59Speaker 2: of a fan fantasy.
- 35:00Speaker 1: What is there a name for that?
- 35:03Speaker 4: You know?
- 35:03Speaker 8: Nancy I in my clinical practice, I often explore people's
- 35:07Speaker 8: sexual fantasies to try to get to the bottom of
- 35:09Speaker 8: what their character logical issues are. And this one would
- 35:13Speaker 8: take six months of psychoanalysis. Let me tell you. I mean,
- 35:16Speaker 8: I think there's this identification with these greats right, that
- 35:20Speaker 8: he wants to be like them. That's his rezondaetra in life.
- 35:25Speaker 8: I think he wants to be penetrated by them, so
- 35:28Speaker 8: the idea that he's the recipient of a sex act.
- 35:32Speaker 8: But you know, you can't just call up Shack and
- 35:34Speaker 8: say can we Netflix and chill?
- 35:36Speaker 7: Right?
- 35:36Speaker 8: You can't do that, or can I take you out
- 35:38Speaker 8: for a drink?
- 35:39Speaker 10: So what are you going to do?
- 35:40Speaker 8: You're going to substitute some poor woman, You're sex trafficking
- 35:45Speaker 8: in your fantasy life for Shaquille O'Neil, or you're actually
- 35:50Speaker 8: she substitutes free from him.
- 35:51Speaker 2: I've got to go to the pr guru on this,
- 35:54Speaker 2: Rob Sheeter joining us as naughty but Nice and you
- 35:57Speaker 2: can find him at Rob Sheeter's.
- 35:59Speaker 1: Daily news letter on a substack.
- 36:02Speaker 2: Rob Shooter Daily Newsletter on substack. Who knew about this
- 36:09Speaker 2: fascination with the NBA greats Now?
- 36:13Speaker 1: I think I recall.
- 36:15Speaker 2: Seeing Comb's front line on the on the court at
- 36:20Speaker 2: professional basketball games with various women.
- 36:24Speaker 1: But who knew he.
- 36:25Speaker 2: Wasn't watching the scoreboard, That's not what he was doing.
- 36:29Speaker 7: I think people around him knew that he had a
- 36:33Speaker 7: fascination with powerful people. When I was working with him,
- 36:37Speaker 7: he had a very unusual, interesting fastination.
- 36:40Speaker 10: What are you saying.
- 36:42Speaker 1: What are you saying.
- 36:43Speaker 2: We're not talking about Gandhi or the president, famous people,
- 36:48Speaker 2: famous people, private parts.
- 36:52Speaker 1: Why are you saying.
- 36:53Speaker 2: He was obsessed with famous people, because from what I understand, this.
- 37:01Speaker 1: Is what he's interested in a set of these.
- 37:08Speaker 7: Thought I don't know if I have thoughts about that,
- 37:12Speaker 7: but I do have thoughts about the great I don't know, Nancy,
- 37:16Speaker 7: I'm not I'm not the biggest sports fan in the world.
- 37:20Speaker 4: I don't know quite where to say what to say
- 37:24Speaker 4: about this one here.
- 37:25Speaker 7: I think Puffy is saying it or for us, But
- 37:27Speaker 7: I also think too, this witness is amazing, This Jane do.
- 37:35Speaker 4: The ropes.
- 37:35Speaker 1: Puffy is a force. I don't even know what that means.
- 37:38Speaker 1: Puffy is a force.
- 37:39Speaker 2: Let's go back to your your safe place. What did
- 37:44Speaker 2: you mean he's obsessed with famous people?
- 37:45Speaker 4: He was really obsessed with Prince Harry and William.
- 37:47Speaker 7: When I worked with him, he had photographs of the
- 37:50Speaker 7: young princes they're about eighteen or nineteen years old. He
- 37:53Speaker 7: wanted that touch of royalty to come to his parties.
- 37:56Speaker 7: He would always ask me what was going on with them.
- 37:58Speaker 7: Puff also to love the weekly magazines. Most people think
- 38:02Speaker 7: the weekly magazines come out on a Friday.
- 38:04Speaker 4: They don't. They come out on a Wednesday. In New York.
- 38:06Speaker 7: Puff was the first person at the new stand or
- 38:09Speaker 7: he sent an assistant to go through the weekly magazines.
- 38:12Speaker 7: He would circle people that he wanted to be famous
- 38:15Speaker 7: around him. Ashton Kutcher was somebody that he had a
- 38:18Speaker 7: really unusual obsession with. And so Puff being obsessed with
- 38:22Speaker 7: people that are powerful, successful, I think that has gone
- 38:25Speaker 7: on a really long time.
- 38:26Speaker 2: So Rob Shooter, you wouldn't touch a pair of these
- 38:30Speaker 2: with a ten foot pole, right. Well, I not talk
- 38:33Speaker 2: about it, but you hear the bizarre role play that
- 38:37Speaker 2: he insisted on with Jane and I got to tell
- 38:41Speaker 2: you something. There's a point in the courtroom where you
- 38:44Speaker 2: have to be confident enough in your case and in
- 38:47Speaker 2: yourself to say no further questions because you're making it worse.
- 38:54Speaker 2: The defense is digging their own grave with their teeth,
- 38:59Speaker 2: talking and fucking and trying and trying to massage Jane's
- 39:02Speaker 2: testimony all day long across exam has backfired spectacularly.
- 39:08Speaker 4: You're right, Nancy, No further questions. You've got me.
- 39:11Speaker 2: I understand that Greg Morris is gnashing his teeth and
- 39:14Speaker 2: switching his tail.
- 39:15Speaker 1: What's your problem?
- 39:16Speaker 6: Well, it's interesting that you know, I've never heard of
- 39:20Speaker 6: sex traffic victims go to NOBU one night then go
- 39:23Speaker 6: on their own this No, listen, all the testimony that's
- 39:28Speaker 6: been given so far from Jane and Cassie's own mouth
- 39:32Speaker 6: is that they thought this was going to be.
- 39:34Speaker 1: A path to whatever in their career.
- 39:37Speaker 6: Maybe Cassie doesn't sing that well and she thought this
- 39:39Speaker 6: would work.
- 39:41Speaker 1: Have nice things.
- 39:42Speaker 16: No, but you're conflating so many to a corner fraw, remember, Nancy, right,
- 39:52Speaker 16: you just don't like.
- 39:53Speaker 2: That anything about the Pampromeos nothing, Okay.
- 39:59Speaker 6: I heard after Marshall described was a domestic battery situation,
- 40:03Speaker 6: and that's.
- 40:03Speaker 4: What this is. That's what I've been saying. This is
- 40:06Speaker 4: not it's not even closed.
- 40:09Speaker 6: No, but you're watching different cases. You're just upset that
- 40:13Speaker 6: as usual, the right over the prostitution.
- 40:16Speaker 1: You think of.
- 40:18Speaker 2: Something new to say, You already said that.
- 40:20Speaker 1: We're watching different cases on her Sidney Summer.
- 40:22Speaker 2: Got a question for you. Let's get down to some
- 40:24Speaker 2: breast tacks here. Isn't it true that today during a
- 40:29Speaker 2: discussion regarding evidence amongst the lawyers, we find out about
- 40:33Speaker 2: two more recorded phone calls from King Combs, Seawan Combs himself.
- 40:40Speaker 2: He doesn't make Christina Korum do his dirty work. He
- 40:42Speaker 2: gets on the phone himself. What's the significance of that
- 40:46Speaker 2: phone call with Jane?
- 40:48Speaker 14: Well, Nancy, We heard one phone call after their twenty
- 40:52Speaker 14: twenty three trip to Turks and Caicos, where Jane says
- 40:56Speaker 14: that Colmbs sprung another hotel night on her and then
- 41:00Speaker 14: offense had a good point here. Jane had reached out
- 41:03Speaker 14: to an entertainer before they even left, intending to invite
- 41:08Speaker 14: him on the trip, so they did make a good
- 41:10Speaker 14: point there. But we hear a phone call after that
- 41:13Speaker 14: where they're exchanging loving messages about how much fun they
- 41:16Speaker 14: had on this trip, and Sean Combs called Jane his
- 41:22Speaker 14: crack pipe. They don't know if that's supposed to be romantic,
- 41:25Speaker 14: but we heard that he had such a good time
- 41:28Speaker 14: with her, and that he's so addicted to being with
- 41:31Speaker 14: her that he was going to call her his crack pipe.
- 41:34Speaker 2: Going forward, and now we remember an American hero, Detective
- 41:38Speaker 2: Sergeant Nicholas Pepper LaForce Pearis, Sheriff's Office, Louisiana. Detective Sergeant
- 41:44Speaker 2: Pepper struck and killed during pursuit after twenty four years
- 41:50Speaker 2: in law enforcement, leaving behind a grieving wife, Christy, and children,
- 41:55Speaker 2: patients Gracie and Nicholas. The second American hero, Detective Sergeant
- 42:02Speaker 2: Nicholas Pepper. Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend